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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,040 (peaceful classical music) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,040 - They simply are 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,280 amongst the most beautiful paintings ever painted. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,320 - They are a kind of manifesto about what painting is 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,600 and what painting could do. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 - What we're seeing are very important pictures. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,600 We almost certainly looking at great masterpieces. 10 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:36,040 - Philip is a young man. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,280 He's on the cusp of having 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 to assume enormous responsibility. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,240 - [Woman] Anybody who loves painting loves Titian. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,240 - He is the most famous painter in Europe by far. 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,880 - Titian did intend them as a series 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,520 and Philip II wanted them as a series. 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,520 But in fact, very few people had the opportunity 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,000 to see them as a series. 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Finally, with the show, we can actually 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,680 think of them as a whole suite of paintings. 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,520 It's a huge thrill for us, and it's 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,400 a huge thrill, I'm sure, for everyone. 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,200 (classical music) 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,880 (PA announcement in foreign language) 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,840 It weighs heavily on you to have to lock the doors on a room 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,720 that holds some of the greatest pictures ever painted. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,200 They carry with them something significant from the past 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,200 and they have an ability to speak to us in the present. 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,680 - Should I be enjoying the sight of these naked women? 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,920 - There is something we need to 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,120 look at, see and recognize here. 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,600 - They're bound up with people's fears about love. 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,000 They're bound up with people's fears about death 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,640 but they're bound up also with this great sense 35 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:13,320 of celebrating the fact that we are alive. 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 (classical music) 37 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,800 (lively classical music) 38 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,920 - Phillip, he's a young man preparing 39 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,520 to take over as king of Spain. 40 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 He's on the cusp of having 41 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,080 to assume enormous responsibility. 42 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 It's certainly a high-stakes moment for him. 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,240 And so he's concerned with establishing himself 44 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,800 as a credible figure. 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,040 - He needs paintings. 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 A great king has great works of art. 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,720 You know, if you're an important person 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,360 at that time, you should be magnificent. 49 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,760 You should show that in everything you do, 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240 and art has become one of the ways people do that. 51 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,600 - You wanted to cultivate a relationship 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,200 with the artist regarded as the best. 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,600 (lively classical music) 54 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,520 - Like many of the great potentates of his time, 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,280 he had phenomenal power, but technically bankrupt. 56 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,600 So they had to find other ways than cash 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,760 often to pay for these huge things. 58 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 - It was not Phillip's private wealth that financed this. 59 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,920 It was the Fugger family. 60 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,200 (dramatic orchestral music) 61 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,840 - [Alexander] I'm essentially the 19th generation 62 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,920 of the family since it's been recorded 63 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,960 that they arrived in Augsburg in 1367. 64 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,760 (dramatic orchestral music) 65 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,760 In 1550, Phillip II and a lot of the Habsburg family members 66 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,760 spent a couple of months here in Augsburg, 67 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,880 in the Fugger Palace. 68 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,920 (upbeat music) (talking quietly) 69 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,880 The relationship between Fugger and Phillip II 70 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,880 was essentially funding his needs to finance the state, 71 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,040 to finance the court, to finance his personal interests. 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 And there weren't that many firms like ours 73 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,560 that were able to fund these kinds of sums. 74 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,760 - When Phillips says, writes to Venice saying 75 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,000 he wants Titian to come to Augsburg. 76 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,840 - They agree on a number of paintings 77 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:58,840 that he's going to deliver it to Phillip 78 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,320 and it's up to Titian to come up with the subjects. 79 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,720 - That was it. Nothing further was specified. 80 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Nothing further was agreed. 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 He simply let Titian get on with it. 82 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 - So they parted and Titian went back to Venice 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,960 and Phillip went back to Spain and they never met again. 84 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,880 They never meet again. 85 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,280 (lively classical music) 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,160 - By this time, by the 1540s, 1550s, 87 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Titian is already very famous. 88 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,240 He's already carried out several commissions 89 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,360 for lots of European dignitaries. 90 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,160 - By the time that he meets Phillip, 91 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 he's become the greatest artist in Venice 92 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,600 and has been for a long time. 93 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,920 He's held the crown of being the grand old man in Venice 94 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,400 in terms of the arts. 95 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 (lively classical music) 96 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,600 - This is Titian's garden. 97 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,840 It's completely enveloping, and I think, quite magical. 98 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,320 - You can see that he had a real contact 99 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,600 with the Venetians at that time. 100 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,200 He was part of the city, as not only a painter 101 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,920 but as a Venetian person. 102 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,360 - We have, of course, the written testament 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,840 of the dinner parties that Titian used to give 104 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:36,800 here in this garden and how after, 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,920 at the end of the dinner, he would open the gate 106 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,000 and he would arrange to have gondolas 107 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,400 with courtesans and musicians and singers 108 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,640 who would come and entertain his guests. 109 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,320 In Titian's time, the door would have opened, 110 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,960 and it would be the lagoon. 111 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,000 (classical music) 112 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Shall we come in? 113 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 The house is very long and narrow, 114 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,360 which is most unusual for Venice. 115 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Living in Titian's house, 116 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,960 it's a presence that you live with. 117 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,040 We have a fireplace, it's sort of warm and cozy. 118 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,720 This is our confessional, and I know 119 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,600 my husband always has need of that. 120 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,400 I think Titian was constantly on our mind 121 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,440 when we were buying things. 122 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,200 This is the drawing room. 123 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,280 I decided to do something creative here. 124 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,560 And that's when we incorporated 125 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,400 landscape scenes from Titian's paintings. 126 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,560 I think there's a butterfly, 127 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,560 there's a butterfly or a dragonfly over there. 128 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,760 And we even have some naked ladies, 129 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,960 there's a naked lady there. 130 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,720 He probably would have approved of her. 131 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Yes, I think he definitely liked the ladies. 132 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,560 (peaceful music) 133 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,360 - He brings you in with this kind of 134 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,760 delicious promise of beauty. 135 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,440 And so we see Danae laying on a bed 136 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,480 in a very voluptuous setting. 137 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,560 There's a maidservant with her as well, 138 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:21,280 watching this golden rain fall down onto her lap area. 139 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,120 (chuckling) 140 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,080 - It is one of the sexiest paintings ever painted 141 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,840 and everything about it suggest the turbulence of sex. 142 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,080 - One of the things that makes it so sexy 143 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,160 is that the sheets are rumpled, 144 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,760 the sheets are painted with broad brush strokes, 145 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,320 they're very, very rumpled. 146 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,200 I mean, there's been something going on in that bed. 147 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,280 - Titian has done has most erotic painting. 148 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,320 And that is saying something, 149 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,320 because he specialized in erotic painting. 150 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,880 He's pioneer of the reclining female nude. 151 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 - Titian has, at this period, kind of a specialty 152 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,520 of giving very favored patrons 153 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 pictures of naked female nudes on beds 154 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,120 - In 1538, Titian painted this extremely famous nude. 155 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,600 She's doing something with her hand that to some 156 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,760 was considered to be as close to pornography 157 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,880 as art of this period gets. 158 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,880 Then we cut to 1544 and Titian painted 159 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,800 this picture for Alessandro Farnese, 160 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,280 and the Venus of Urbino is about flirtation. 161 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,760 The Farnese Venus is about penetration, 162 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,160 and this one's about passion. 163 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,840 This is about orgasm. 164 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,840 - This golden shower of rain is related 165 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,200 to some kind of metaphor for ejaculation. 166 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,600 - But painted for a man whom Titian 167 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,320 believed to be very sexually active. 168 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Phillip was only 21 at the time that he painted it for him. 169 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,720 - We have many accounts of him being a womanizer 170 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,320 and being very interested in women and so on. 171 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,240 Phillip's in his early 20s. 172 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Titian is in his 60s. 173 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,760 He's also smart, he's a reader of people 174 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,880 and he understands that this is what Phillip likes. 175 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,720 - I can understand why you can say, 176 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,520 "oh, it's just like pornography. 177 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,600 It's just like a pin-up," 178 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,640 but that's not what it's for. 179 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,840 And these paintings have much more to them. 180 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,560 - Of course, we know that he didn't just 181 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,000 invent alt this out of the top of his head. 182 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 I mean, it's based on Ovid's "Metamorphoses." 183 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 (upbeat music) 184 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:37,120 - This is where I keep nicely alphabetical order, my Ovid. 185 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,840 I've got him very austerely in Latin only. 186 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,840 I've got him in English on a buy one, get one free offer. 187 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Ovid takes quite a lot of shelf space 188 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,440 because he's one of the most important, 189 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,440 famous, classical and subversive of all Roman poets. 190 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,440 The most famous thing that he ever wrote 191 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,040 is his poem which is called "The Metamorphoses," 192 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,720 the change of shape. 193 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,080 He's talking fundamentally about what it is to be a human. 194 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,400 What is it to change? 195 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,440 What do we mean by someone becoming different, 196 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,440 and how do human beings change in the course of their lives? 197 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,480 But it spans a whole range of subjects, 198 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,320 all of them slightly naughty. 199 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,760 The first in the series was Danae being impregnated 200 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,640 by the God Jupiter in a shower of gold. 201 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,840 The person who is going to be born 202 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,440 from this strange impregnation is the hero Perseus. 203 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,600 What's going on here is that Titian 204 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,280 is not illustrating of it. 205 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,280 He's reconfiguring some of the main themes of the text. 206 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,720 And that's why I think they're kind of very rich 207 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,720 because it's not as if there's a kind of 208 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,440 simple and straightforward message 209 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 and all you've got to do is uncode it. 210 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,800 What we're being asked to do 211 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,200 is to think about this story and what it means. 212 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,840 - Many of these paintings were designed 213 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,840 as kind of talking points for intellectuals. 214 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,320 And the idea was that little references 215 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 would be put in there to the nature of painting, 216 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,800 to poetry, to mythology that Phillip's intellectuals, 217 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,360 courtiers and poets would unravel. 218 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,240 (bright classical music) 219 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,720 Venus tries to prevail upon her human lover Adonis 220 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,560 to stop him from going on hunting, 221 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,080 where he's going to be killed. 222 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:17,400 Needless to say, he pays no attention, 223 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,200 goes off and gets killed. 224 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,160 That's what you get for trifling with the gods. 225 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,560 They will destroy you. 226 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,480 - Titian hasn't Followed the story that Ovid tells us, 227 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,120 because according to Ovid, what happened was 228 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Venus, who is bending the night with her boyfriend Adonis, 229 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,320 says, "Oh, Adonis, promise me you won't go hunting. 230 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,600 I'm frightened," and all the rest of it. 231 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,040 And he says, "Of course I promise I won't." 232 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,400 At dawn she leaves him. 233 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 After she's gone, he goes out hunting. 234 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Now Titian has painted it as something quite different, 235 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,160 i.e. he's trying to leave, she's trying to restrain him. 236 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,320 It's after dawn. 237 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,720 - Titian knew perfectly well what he was trying to do, 238 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,320 what he was trying to achieve 239 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400 with something which was very, very sexy. 240 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,200 - The Venus and Adonis explicitly is about depicting 241 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,080 a female nude from behind, because Titian sends a letter 242 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,360 to Philip and says that he's going to depict the nude, 243 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,840 the female nude from a variety of perspectives. 244 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,040 The way that he presents Venus from the back and sitting, 245 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,880 so you can see the pressure on her buttock, 246 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,160 this is really celebrated in the 16th century, this idea 247 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 that you can see the kind of softness of the flesh. 248 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,720 IT's about Titian being really skillful 249 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,520 by making you feel so sexually aroused by this image. 250 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,360 (classical music) 251 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,040 - In the years when it was here in the studio, 252 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,960 it just gave you a thrill every time 253 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,200 you walked in each morning. 254 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,800 it never ceases to do that. 255 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,720 - It's a very erotic picture, I think, 256 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,240 with the back view where so much is sort of 257 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,600 left to the imagination, but you've also got this, 258 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,640 her very prominent bottom. 259 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,160 'Cause there's a variety of bottoms as well. 260 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,200 if you look at them, there's different forms 261 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,040 where the eyes draw, the way that the lines 262 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,240 of the composition. 263 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,720 I like the pressure of sitting. 264 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,800 but there is, it's true though. 265 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,960 It is true. If you look at that, 266 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,560 there's a real sense of weight. 267 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,040 - He began this picture preparatory for producing 268 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,400 the picture for Phillip II. 269 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,320 it was a master template for Titian's Venus and Adonis. 270 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,520 - This is a working piece and he is developing things 271 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,560 on the canvas as he goes along. 272 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Other artists, might've done it in drawings, 273 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,120 or they might've done it in cartoons. 274 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,880 They might've worked away from the canvas. 275 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,800 He works on the canvas. 276 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 It's got elements of compositional change 277 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,320 that tell us about his process of thinking. 278 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,720 This has to do with that line, 279 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,360 the sinuosity of that line. 280 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Moving little elements around the top of the boot. 281 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 - Yes, that's extraordinary, that the boot gets so much. 282 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 The minute he supplied that picture to Phillip II, 283 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,800 it became the most famous picture in the world. 284 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,640 It was his best selling picture. 285 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,920 He got orders for it, and he would sort of 286 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,480 press print on it, as it then was. 287 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,800 it was an absolutely winning composition. 288 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Each of these pictures meant money for Titian's studio. 289 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,760 (slow orchestral music) 290 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,040 - We have here on the table, 291 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,880 three prints by the early Titian. 292 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,880 Titian, in his early career already made it clear 293 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,560 that he had a very strong and very outspoken sense 294 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,600 of the potentialities of various new techniques. 295 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,040 So he had a nose for this and he tried it out. 296 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,720 So he started not just painting, but making prints. 297 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,040 And indeed here we have the figure of Christ 298 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,440 on a chariot, drawn by here, figures, 299 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,440 allegorical figures representing faith, turning around. 300 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Ooh, this is something new. 301 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,440 The new technique gave the possibility to, 302 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,760 as it were, commercialize new inventions on a scale 303 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,600 that was unheard of, and that's exactly what Titian did. 304 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,240 A great example of that is the Venus and Adonis. 305 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,640 Hmm, If I make a print out of one of these paintings 306 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,680 and sell that print, I can make a nice living out of that. 307 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Why not? 308 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,640 - As he grew older and more famous, he was not averse 309 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,560 to copying himself or making variants. 310 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,880 He did it quite often. 311 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,160 - HE made no secret of the fact 312 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,160 that he was interested in money. 313 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,480 He said, in a letter, "my pensions are my passion." 314 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,880 I mean, he made a lot of money out of these pictures. 315 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,800 They were money spinners, I'm afraid, 316 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,320 apart from anything else. 317 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,920 (upbeat music) 318 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,400 - Andromeda is an Ethiopian princess. 319 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,960 And her mother has bragged that she and her daughter 320 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,480 are much more beautiful than the nymphs 321 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 who serve the god of the sea Neptune. 322 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,000 So he sends a monster to devour her. 323 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,480 Perseus is flying through the air. 324 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,440 He decides to save her. 325 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600 The big difference between the Perseus and Andromeda 326 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,400 and the two previous is that it's invented 327 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,000 from the ground up. 328 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,520 It's a new invention for Titian, because he wants 329 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,360 to depict a figure in motion through the air. 330 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,000 It is clear that it's reworked a lot, 331 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,120 over a protracted period. 332 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:33,120 He couldn't work out whether to stick with Ovid, 333 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,200 in which I believe Perseus is standing on the shore. 334 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,400 So he started by putting her on this side 335 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,320 and Perseus on this side and he changed his mind. 336 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 - I think he's also trying to suggest 337 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,480 a slight lack of control in the figure of Perseus, 338 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,440 and that makes him look a little clumsy. 339 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:57,360 This figure of the tumbling Perseus, 340 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,880 it looks like he's gonna crash into the water 341 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,400 quite some way off from the sea monster. 342 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,200 He looks like he's just fallen off the cliff 343 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,960 and is going headlong into the water, 344 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,280 rather than that he's gonna go and kill this monster. 345 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,160 It reminds me a little bit of the figure 346 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,600 in Tintoretto's The Freeing of the Slave. 347 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,920 - He's working at a time in Venice where 348 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,440 a new generation of artists is coming to the fore 349 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,320 including Jacoba Tintoretto, with whom he has 350 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,160 a very strained relationship. 351 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 And Tintoretto has an incredible facility 352 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,840 and is very good at sort of kinetic dynamic action 353 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 and pictures flying through the air 354 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,280 is something he's very good at. 355 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,440 And it seems like Titian is also competing with that. 356 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,720 He's very competitive artist. 357 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,760 He always looks at what's going on around him 358 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,360 and measures himself against it and tries to outdo it. 359 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:49,600 - Many paintings were done to show he could do far better 360 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,840 than someone else who he thought threatened his position. 361 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,080 - The figure that's effortless is the figure of Andromeda. 362 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,480 She's elegant, she has this balletic pose. 363 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,800 She's the one who's restrained, but she's really 364 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,400 the one who is shown with composure 365 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,800 - And it's to do with power. 366 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,560 It's not to do with eroticism 367 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,600 as much as it's to do with power. 368 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,160 He's got this enormous empire, including a new empire 369 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,800 in the new world that he's trying to protect. 370 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560 There's a relationship between masculinity and virility 371 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,720 and leadership or the ability to lead people, 372 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,400 to be in charge. 373 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,160 (dramatic music) 374 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,840 And so these paintings also, really I suppose, 375 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,440 the implication hidden underneath these paintings 376 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,680 is that say, Phillip II or whoever the commissioner was 377 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880 is like Perseus sweeping in to save the day. 378 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,800 (fast-paced classical music) 379 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,200 - Phillip is very conscious of the fact 380 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 that some of the major decisions he makes 381 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,240 affects the political life and the personal lives 382 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,440 of Europeans all over the continent. 383 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,320 One of the first prints we have here is of 384 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,480 the defenses constructed for the Port of Vera Cruz. 385 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,000 This beautiful and very complex painting 386 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,880 is to illustrate the waterways 387 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,120 leading into the Port of Antwerp. 388 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,240 Having therefore come into possession 389 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,200 of all these territories by inheritance, 390 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,640 Phillip had the advantage, presumably, 391 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680 of being able to draw income from them. 392 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,720 But at the same time, he had to defend them. 393 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,400 Phillip found, I suppose to his disgust, 394 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,160 that having an empire isn't really always a good thing. 395 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960 We have an empire which on the face of it 396 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560 covers all the continents of the globe, 397 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,320 but which in reality creates important obligations 398 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560 on the king himself to try and defend, 399 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,560 which he never really could. 400 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,520 - Titian is smart, he's a reader of people. 401 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,880 He has a sense of Phillip's situation, 402 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,000 how difficult it is to be a ruler 403 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,960 and the kind of decisions you make. 404 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,720 - There is no letter from Phillip in that period 405 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,920 in which he expresses any reaction to the pictures at all. 406 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,240 - He was very worried about Phillip's reaction 407 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,240 Nothing like this particular treatment of a subject 408 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 had ever been seen before, so what was Phillip 409 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840 going to make of it? 410 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,480 So Phillip had an awful lot on his mind 411 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,280 and he didn't respond, and Titian wrote him at least twice. 412 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,800 - "I Haven't heard anything from you. 413 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,520 It's been so long since I sent these pictures. 414 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,640 I assume that's maybe because you don't like them. 415 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080 If you don't like them, I'm happy to do them again." 416 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,920 - And he never heard from him, until I think 417 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960 quite a long time had passed, over a year. 418 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,800 So you can imagine the anxiety. 419 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,240 - But in a sense, you can make the argument 420 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520 that it just becomes a catalyst for Titian. 421 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960 (lively classical music) 422 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 He has sort of a resurgence of creativity in this period. 423 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,640 To work with an artist, for a patron 424 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,400 who's going to be paying you as long 425 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,520 as you're delivering something, that is remarkable. 426 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960 (lively classical music) 427 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,440 - This is really the normal size painting brush 428 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,360 which you can imagine Titian using, similar to. 429 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,200 The reason why you've got it long, 430 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,400 you want to hold it so you can actually make marks. 431 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,320 And when you're actually painting, 432 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280 you can actually see the whole canvas. 433 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,440 When you get kind of close, it's all a blur. 434 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,120 But when you're further away, the actual drawing, 435 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,160 the shape-making comes together 436 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200 and actually creates form. 437 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,520 - For Titian, the execution on the surface, 438 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640 on the canvas, is the content. 439 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840 the way he starts opening up his forms 440 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,200 to where he starts painting even more atmospherically 441 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,440 than he had previously 442 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Titian, straight on there with the brush. 443 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,280 That's the idea. 444 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,680 - He's carving the surface 445 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,760 is where the analogy is, is carving. 446 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,760 - His approach to gestural brushwork, 447 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,360 his approach to layering of color and his use of that 448 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,200 to tell stories with not just narrative precision 449 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,160 but emotional and psychological precision 450 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,440 - And you can imagine Titian doing that. 451 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,440 And when you're involved with a picture, 452 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680 you become so lost within it. 453 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,640 - Titian is the great precursor of our modern day 454 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600 idea of painting as self-expression. 455 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,480 - And it's fundamental to remember they are abstract. 456 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720 And again, it's not about painting every single thing in, 457 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000 he's getting to an essence as your brain fills the rest in, 458 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,880 again, which you could say as a modern idea. 459 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,320 - He's doing something new in painting that is so radical 460 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,920 that you can't really think about painting 461 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,360 the same way after this. 462 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,240 He's painting the future. 463 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,800 (somber music) 464 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480 - This is the one that many people think of 465 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,480 as the absolute top of the series. 466 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,600 It's a kind of manifesto about what painting is 467 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,480 and what painting could do. 468 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320 - Look at this, look at it. 469 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200 I mean, every texture that you can imagine, 470 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,600 water, stone, glass. 471 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280 - Things that are vaporous, translucent. 472 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440 You know, those are things that are notoriously 473 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 difficult to paint, and he just puts them in, 474 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920 masses of them, just to show what he can do. 475 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200 - These later pictures, they're unusually freely painted 476 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000 or they give the impression of unusually freely painted. 477 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840 When you look close to them, you just make out 478 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,640 a mass of color and so forth. 479 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,240 When you stand back, it all falls into place 480 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,800 and they seem to be alive and perfect. 481 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,800 - This is just form that lives straight-through paint, 482 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,280 that has as many dimensions to it as poetry 483 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,720 - Here is the goddess Diana suddenly being surprised 484 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,560 by the hunter Actaeon who, in the course of the chase, 485 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,160 has come across Diana and her followers bathing. 486 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,800 - Which no man must ever do. 487 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,800 It's that startled look of the discomfort every man has felt 488 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,640 at not being wanted in the company of women. 489 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 - Then what happens is that Diana sees him, 490 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,880 she transforms him into a stag 491 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,680 and he gets eaten by his own hounds. 492 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760 He constantly makes you question 493 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,320 why you're looking at these paintings 494 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560 and your morals for looking at these paintings 495 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,640 and the ethics of looking. 496 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,960 Should I be enjoying this sight of these naked women? 497 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,760 - Mr. Ongaro, the proud owner of Titian's studio. 498 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480 You've worked here for how many years? 499 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680 (speaking in foreign language) 500 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,520 60 years. 501 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,120 (speaking in foreign language) 502 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,640 What is this? 503 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,560 (speaking in foreign language) 504 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Ahhh. (chuckling) 505 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,240 (speaking in foreign language) 506 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800 - Right, so the issue of female life models 507 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,560 is a kind of much-debated question amongst 508 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Renaissance art historians, and it used to be 509 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440 that people said there weren't any female life models 510 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800 in the Renaissance, it was just men. 511 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,320 And in some cases you do use male life models 512 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,680 for clothed female figures, but to get female nudes 513 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440 and particularly female nudes in strange positions, 514 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,320 you have to have a life model. 515 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Otherwise you can't see things like how the breasts fall, 516 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 for example, you can't do that with a male model. 517 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,400 So female life models absolutely were used 518 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,400 in the 16th century, and Titian was one of the people 519 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,120 who used them frequently. 520 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200 (classical music) 521 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520 - I think I would have loved to sit for Titian, 522 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,920 provided I could keep my clothes on. 523 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,080 This was obviously many years ago, 524 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,480 and it was the first cover of "Cosmopolitan." 525 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,400 (chuckling) They wanted cleavage, and I had cleavage. 526 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,360 The job of the models in Titian's time 527 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480 was to project whatever image it was 528 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440 that they were requested to project. 529 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,360 It's not really how I see myself. 530 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,520 - Female bodies are really transgressive, 531 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,440 so you get preachers like Bernardino of Siena 532 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,480 saying "Woman, never let yourself be seen naked, 533 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960 because you sin and so does your husband. 534 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,720 They should never see your naked body." 535 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920 So the idea of painting women naked 536 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160 was indeed a deeply sexual act. 537 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960 - It's a lot of focused, concentrated time 538 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,720 together in the studio. 539 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,960 And I think, in my memory, it tells me 540 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240 that I was sort of coming around maybe what would have been 541 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720 an average of two, two and a half days a week. 542 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Something like this. - Yeah. 543 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,000 - For about four hours, four or five hours each sitting. 544 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800 - I know it was a difficult pose 545 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520 and this arm was particularly difficult, wasn't it? 546 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,960 I mean, the artists could often 547 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200 be criticized for being cruel. 548 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040 - I remember my body not being very happy. 549 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520 There were yeah, sort of aches and pains 550 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,480 that I hadn't experienced before. 551 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160 I don't know what's happening, but this arm 552 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,400 would have to be holding the weight of the body 553 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,800 which seems like, nearly impossible. 554 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,400 - You see that really well. 555 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400 - If you were really sort of leaning over 556 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,640 and having that as the point that's anchoring the pose, 557 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,640 then there would have to be incredible tension. 558 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,240 I wonder if there wasn't something that was 559 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:41,320 more vertical that was sort of then tipped over. 560 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,480 Gravity will tell you, and circulation will tell you 561 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,520 that it's not a good idea to have your arms 562 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,360 above your head for a very long time, 563 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,280 but I know that this varies a lot between models. 564 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000 I know a couple of models that can hold their arms 565 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,840 above their head for a whole hour, 566 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400 where within 10 minutes at the most, 567 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,120 I would have no blood and there would be pain. 568 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,800 As a naked person in the room, 569 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,280 it can sometimes be or feel vulnerable. 570 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,280 And I think sometimes it could seem very subtle 571 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,040 and I think I've been in situations where 572 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200 people might have used particular terminology 573 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,080 that they're probably naive to the fact 574 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,080 that that could maybe make one not feel so comfortable 575 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,360 and perhaps a little bit more exposed. 576 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600 What we're doing has nothing to do with sex, 577 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,840 but I think it would be naive to say 578 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,840 that it can't be, because we're sexual beings. 579 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,920 It's not the case with Andy. 580 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,480 Andy is very, very clear. 581 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480 - I don't think about sex when I'm painting. 582 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,360 I don't need to go to the next room 583 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,600 and kind of have an orgasm or something 584 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,000 to better paint, to put it crudely. 585 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,080 But I think there probably have been 586 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960 artists that have done that. 587 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,360 - There is an expectation that artists 588 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,800 have sex with their models. 589 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Writers talk about not letting good girls 590 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120 go into artists' studios because of 591 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080 all the things that could happen to them. 592 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,120 So whether this during Titian's case, 593 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,960 I mean, it's lost to history. 594 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,800 Nobody knows. 595 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,960 - We don't know, is the answer, 596 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,000 and I didn't think anybody will, 597 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160 and I don't think it should change our views 598 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,000 about pictures either. 599 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,480 What people do in the privacy 600 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,840 of their own studios is their affair. 601 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,400 (lively music) 602 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,040 - It may be difficult to know who Titian's models were, 603 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,840 but there's reported difficulty in getting 604 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480 the right kind of female models. 605 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,160 - They are not professional models, I think, 606 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120 and nor are they relatives, of course. 607 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,240 they are presumably courtesans, of which 608 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,000 there was a great number in Venice. 609 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,760 - So Venice, this very beautiful city raising out 610 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,720 from the water, was one of the wonders in Europe. 611 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:01,720 Just an amazing, really beauty, with approximately 612 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,760 a population of 170,000 inhabitants. 613 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400 11,000 were courtesans. 614 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,640 And here in the middle, over there behind 615 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,320 the Rialto Bridge, you can see this area, 616 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,800 which was the ancient red light district. 617 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,640 In 1565, a catalog was printed, a catalog 618 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:34,240 of the 220 most important Venetian courtesans. 619 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,880 - It's important to think about courtesans' 620 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,400 cultural relationship to these paintings 621 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,960 because this is a new kind of culture. 622 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,200 You're going to get courtesans 623 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,720 in the early 16th century in Venice, 624 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,000 and Titian is friends with some of these courtesans, 625 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,960 he's very much part of this culture. 626 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,720 (upbeat music) 627 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,880 - Let's go. 628 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,360 Now we are in Castellete in the ancient 629 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,640 red light district of Venice. 630 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,520 So we can also see some very beautiful statues 631 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,320 reminding us of some of their very special 632 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,880 and attractive female attributes, because not far from here 633 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,680 there is also the very famous Bridge of Tits, 634 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200 where the courtesans there were used, 635 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,280 where they are to show their tits. 636 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400 Of course, they were totally bare-breasted 637 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160 to entice clients. 638 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,360 For instance, we can find Ludovica Stella, 639 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,360 living here in Campo Santa Barnaba, just drio la chiesa. 640 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120 It means behind the church. 641 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,840 let's check how much she charged. 642 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,000 Only two scudi. Two shields, hmm. 643 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Quite good, actually. 644 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,120 For instance, a doctor earned eight scudi, 645 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,400 eight shields, for a month. 646 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,520 So you can imagine the big amount 647 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,840 of money that the courtesans earned. 648 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,400 - Many women would have sexual relations with a man 649 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,400 in exchange for goods and maybe rent or maybe a house, 650 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080 and that courtesan spent a lot of the time 651 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,200 just creating wonderfully beautiful atmospheres for them. 652 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,080 So we'll write poetry and we'll sing 653 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,040 and we'll be beautiful and entertaining and accessible, 654 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,040 in a way that a lot of aristocratic women weren't. 655 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,680 And so they wouldn't define themselves 656 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,280 necessarily as sex workers 657 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,760 - He's a purveyor of fantasy. 658 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,000 So were the courtesans of Venice. 659 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120 They're both selling their fantasies to the same people. 660 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,480 (somber orchestral music) 661 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,360 - Here, we've got Diana as the rather commanding 662 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,320 virgin goddess who has discovered that one of her 663 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,280 poor attendants, the sad Callisto here, who has 664 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200 because they had to get undressed, 665 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,040 she's revealed that she was pregnant. 666 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,800 Callisto was impregnated by the god Jupiter 667 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,480 in the form of Diana. 668 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520 - She's not allowed to be pregnant because 669 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,360 Diana's nymphs are supposed to be chaste. 670 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,160 - It's a terrible moment where she's being held down 671 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,000 by the other nymphs and they're revealing her pregnancy. 672 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,400 Diana and Callisto is a deeply upsetting painting. 673 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,320 - It's one of the most expressively painted, 674 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,040 possibly the most expressively painted. 675 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,560 What this painting is, essentially, 676 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,920 a rape victim ostracized by her peers, 677 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120 another innocent victim of fate. 678 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000 - Diana isn't a wicked woman, she's a goddess, 679 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,640 which means that she can control your fate. 680 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Anything can happen if there's somebody up there, 681 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,240 is going to do something good or bad for you. 682 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,760 All that says that there is no justice in the world. 683 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,120 What happens happens. 684 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,200 - It is interesting that the painting 685 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,360 for Phillip gets so dark. 686 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,560 (soft music) 687 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,560 - Titian is very anxious, there are two pensions 688 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,560 and some other sums that have not been paid to him. 689 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,080 He has not been paid as they had agreed 690 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,800 for a very long time by this point. 691 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,240 - Now that if you work for a duke or a king, 692 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,000 there's nothing you can do about taking them 693 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,880 to court if they don't pay. 694 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,240 They're not gonna give you the contract. 695 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:18,160 That's how it is. 696 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,600 All you can do is kind of go on and on and on, 697 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,960 "where's my money," and so forth. 698 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480 (tense music) 699 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,080 (speaking in foreign language) 700 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,320 - Phillip II's ambitions and his budget 701 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,400 was getting bigger and bigger. 702 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,920 He was fighting a lot of wars, 703 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,480 and obviously there were these 704 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,280 very expensive ventures in the Americas. 705 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,520 It led to a point where we as a firm 706 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,240 became a bit more conscientious about the risk. 707 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,400 in this letter that Phillip II sent to Max Fugger, 708 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,640 it's more of a demanding that he would want us 709 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,680 to finance one million ducats. 710 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680 So our answer is not no, it's more of a 711 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,880 "we have to see if we're able to accommodate that," 712 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440 and we sort of tried to buy time. 713 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120 This is essentially writing together how large 714 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,480 is the outstanding sum that Phillip II owes to us as a firm, 715 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,240 and how is that split within the various pieces of debt 716 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,520 that we have given to him? 717 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520 And the sum that comes out is rather large. 718 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,080 So we tried to find a way of not going into that request 719 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,880 for financing because the outstanding debt 720 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,280 was 6 million ducats, which in today's terms 721 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560 is roughly $600 million. 722 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,520 This is essentially sort of the beginning of the end, 723 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,440 at least in terms of the financing relationship 724 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,080 between the Fugger family and the Habsburg family. 725 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,720 - Titian is obviously interested in money and who is not, 726 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,560 but he wasn't doing this stuff for love exclusively. 727 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,400 If he could be paid as well, That's fine. 728 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,120 - When some of the payments do come through, 729 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,600 it was paid in a warrant for rice, which gave him the right 730 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,360 to import and export rice through Naples without paying tax. 731 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,680 So it was this kind of amazingly petty 732 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,880 background to the whole thing. 733 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,400 These sort of sublime paintings 734 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,720 paid for in this torturous charade 735 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,200 of constant promises, constant impeachment. 736 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,280 (bright chime music) 737 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,600 Here, we have Europa, the climax of the series 738 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,560 - Titian painted it at probably a high point in his career. 739 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,000 He was about 70 years old when he painted this painting, 740 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,920 and he was really firing on all cylinders by that moment. 741 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,800 - Here is the bull again, Jupiter in a new form, 742 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,360 who is raping the terrified Europa. 743 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080 And there's a backstory here about how the bull 744 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,320 comes on to start with, all very sweet 745 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,080 and Europa and her maids play with the bull. 746 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,440 When he's got her confidence, off he goes. 747 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000 Here she's on his back, she's absolutely terrified. 748 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,440 - Phillip would have identified with Jupiter. 749 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,440 He himself not only identified with the ancient gods 750 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,720 and goddesses, but claimed descent from them. 751 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,640 We know that Titian refers to this painting in 1562 752 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080 as the seal on the series. 753 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,680 He's pleased with this painting. 754 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,800 There is a level of quality embedded in it, 755 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640 a level of intentionality, which perhaps he feels 756 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000 he's come to at the end of a campaign 757 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880 of over a decade of painting some of the most 758 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,760 fabulous and meaningful paintings in his career. 759 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,440 Traditionally, art historians have appreciated it 760 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,720 for its color and for its technique. 761 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,880 - Every inch of this is a kind of molten ecstasy. 762 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,920 It's ecstatic, isn't it? 763 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,160 Her posture is ecstatic. 764 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,520 That sense of ecstasy extends out into the sky 765 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,160 and the reflections and the luminosity of the water. 766 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,760 - Not only is she half uncovered, 767 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,400 but her right breast is visible. 768 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,320 In the first iteration, her breast was covered. 769 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,240 He then lowered the neckline of her dress 770 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,120 until it was fully exposed, so that clearly suggests 771 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,560 a desire to please his patron in the most basic, 772 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,160 sexualized and erotic way. 773 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,800 If you look at the face of Jupiter, Titian chose 774 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,120 to depict him facing the viewer, facing Phillip. 775 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560 He looks at us with these wide eyes 776 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,680 and this pink wet nose as if to say, "Who, me?" 777 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,280 And so there's a momentary hesitation 778 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,840 where you look at the painting and realize 779 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,240 there's something pretty awful going on. 780 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,680 But at the same time, you look at the bull 781 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,760 who's the perpetrator and you think, "well, wait, 782 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,000 is it possible that he's the one about to rape this woman?" 783 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,800 I think hat kind of hesitation that Titian 784 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,720 builds into the painting is crucial to opening up 785 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,400 more potential meanings in it. 786 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,560 - It's interesting because it has a lot of 787 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,480 art historical writing about it that completely dismisses 788 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600 the idea that this is a woman being raped. 789 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,640 We don't look at the subject matter, 790 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,280 we look at brush strokes and we look at, oh, genius 791 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,240 and we look at literature, We just look at everything 792 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:49,240 apart from what is in front of us a lot of the time 793 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,560 and what is in front of us, if you look at it bluntly, 794 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,080 is abduction and assault and rape. 795 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,160 - I first read Ovid at school and I remember 796 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,880 very clearly at school, we were taught 797 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,400 that we should say it wasn't rape, it was ravishing. 798 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,960 Somehow as if the women enjoyed it. 799 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,720 It's not surprising that recent discussion of Ovid 800 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:17,480 has been much clearer about what we're reading, 801 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,560 the treatment of women in this very long book 802 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,280 is they are often the victims of assault, 803 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,480 sexual violence, and there's no two ways about it. 804 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,480 They are raped. 805 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,000 (somber orchestral music) 806 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,480 - One thing that one can say about the Titians in general 807 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,000 is that when the major artists did see them, 808 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,000 these pictures had a decisive impact on a number 809 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,600 of really great European artists, in a way 810 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,000 that no other group of pictures ever did. 811 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,000 Reubens was transformed by the experience 812 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,800 of seeing them, Velazquez based his whole life 813 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,200 on the fact that he was familiar with them. 814 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,440 - I think Lucien Freud said this, and this 815 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,560 companion piece, Diana and Callisto. 816 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,280 were the most beautiful painting ever created, 817 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,720 Not a bad claim. 818 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,360 - Titian was sending these works out without ever 819 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,600 having the opportunity for him to see them 820 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,440 together in his own studio. 821 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,880 He did intend them as a series and Phillip II 822 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,960 wanted them as a series, but in fact, 823 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,280 when they all arrived in Spain, they actually 824 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,920 stayed together for a very, very short period. 825 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,760 - We tend to think of them as being together 826 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,360 from the beginning, but in fact, the thing 827 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,600 that was most striking to me when I mapped them 828 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,160 as a group, was to see that almost from the beginning, 829 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,320 they weren't together. 830 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,400 (chime music) 831 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,680 They were really only together for 20 years. 832 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,280 I wanted to animate the facts that these objects 833 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,480 were in constant motion and think about who saw 834 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,680 these artworks, and also what these artworks saw 835 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,280 over the course of their lives. 836 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,600 So the Venus and Adonis, which is now in the Prado, 837 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,040 was sent originally to England when Philip II 838 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,280 was getting married to Mary Tudor, 839 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,680 the Perseus and Andromeda is sent to Ghent. 840 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,440 We can look at the page that we have for Europa 841 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,440 and be able to see all of the places that she traveled. 842 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,800 First, start off in Venice, where the painting was executed, 843 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,360 and then is sent to Spain where Phillip II receives it. 844 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,600 What the project reveals about who's predominantly 845 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,560 looking at these pictures is that it is mostly men. 846 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,520 Francois Louis-Joseph de Laborde-Mereville, 847 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,080 the Bridgewater Syndicate, Lord Berwick, 848 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,840 the Earls of Darnley, the Colnaghi Gallery. 849 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,680 It seems very clear that these artworks 850 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,520 are mostly seen by men and collected by men, 851 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,360 gifted to men, exchanged by men or among men. 852 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,320 That tells us also that artworks with women 853 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,160 depicted in them were important 854 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,720 as transactional items between men. 855 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,280 (somber music) 856 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,640 - 20 years ago or so, a feminist art historian 857 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,800 started to say, hang on a minute. 858 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,960 How about the 70s onwards? 859 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,200 You get these responses to the nudes, 860 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,440 so you start to think of women like Carolee Schneemann, 861 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,000 where she uses her own body to articulate ideas 862 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,680 about power and art and how female sexuality is used 863 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,480 by artists without any recourse 864 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,440 or any real thoughts about women themselves. 865 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,520 The reclining nude is absolutely related to Titian. 866 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,720 It's just the fact of women 867 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,000 being objectified in Western art. 868 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,080 Just a real sense of anger, a real sense of fury 869 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,520 that the art world kind of colludes in this objectification. 870 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,080 - To demand that art ve sort of morally pure 871 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,040 is basically to demand that art not do 872 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,160 what it's always done. 873 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,360 And that's what art helps us do. 874 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,960 Art is not there to provide a moral example. 875 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,360 Art is there to ask us questions 876 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,280 or make us ask questions of each other. 877 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000 - There's a lot of difficulty now both about 878 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Ovid's poem and about Titian's dialogue with Ovid's poem. 879 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,680 I feel much more doubtful, not to say. 880 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,600 I'm fairly hostile to the view that 881 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,200 that means, so we shouldn't read it 882 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,680 or so we shouldn't look at it. 883 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,440 I think unless we face up to what rape is, we are lost. 884 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,600 That's what we need to know. 885 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,840 There is something we need to 886 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,960 look at, see and recognize here. 887 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,160 Put these in the cupboard, we're depriving ourselves 888 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,280 of something which is gonna make us think harder 889 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,720 and better and more productively 890 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,280 about what sexual violence is. 891 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:08,200 (chime music) 892 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,760 - The day we knew we had to close the gallery, 893 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,720 the team decided to gather together at course at six, 894 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,400 just before the doors closed to the public 895 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,480 so that we could spend a bit of time together 896 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,600 in the exhibition that all of us had played a part in doing. 897 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,440 So we wanted to enjoy those last 898 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,360 few minutes before the visiting public. 899 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,400 It was a strange moment. 900 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,600 I've never lived a moment like that before, frankly. 901 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,840 In times of stress or in times of crisis, 902 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,840 I think museums and art and music and pictures 903 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,640 can play an enormously important role 904 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,480 where people look for solace, where they look for comfort, 905 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,760 where they look for some kind of guidance. 906 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,840 So it weighs heavily on you to have to lock the doors on 907 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,680 a room that holds some of the greatest pictures ever painted 908 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,880 and you can't allow people to see them. 909 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,400 But we know that we've done something important 910 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,600 and we're very keen to share it when we're able 911 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,920 to open our doors again. 912 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,480 (solemn music) 913 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,480 (doors closing) 914 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,480 (bright music) 69264

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