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male narrator:
In the criminal justice system,

sexually-based offenses are
considered especially heinous.

In New York City,

the dedicated detectives
who investigate

these vicious felonies
are members of an elite squad

known as
the Special Victims Unit.

These are their stories.

[Benson]
Just need to hear you say it.

- Ugh, yeah?

I did it, okay?
- Okay.

Uh, that kid,
I don't know his name.

- Hector Rodriguez.
- I don't know!

He had a backpack.

He started talking to me.

Bugging me.
- How?

- Followed me back
to my building.

- And?

- What?

- What happened?

- Nothing happened.

[suspenseful music]

- Well, something happened.

- I'm not doing this.
I'm not--what?

- I'm just asking you.

- Nothing happened!

- Okay.

- But he said he was going to
tell his mother something did.

I can't have that.
- So?

- [deep breath]

So I snapped his neck.

- So you did do it?

- Nothing happened.

But he said he was going to
tell his mother something did.

I can't have that,
so I snapped.

And so did his neck.

Okay?

And I put him under
the concrete slab.

Why'd you ask me that?

We had an agreement.

♪

- Mr. Guthrie, I understand
your client has a plea.

- Yes, Your Honor.

To the charges of murder
in the second degree

and kidnapping in
the first degree,

he pleads guilty.

- Okay, then.

Mr. Hodda,

I need to hear that from you.

Mr. Hodda?

Mr. Guthrie?

- [indistinct whispering]

- No.

I'm not doing time for this.

I'm not doing time
for this.

No.

- Do we have a plea
or don't we?

- We've all agreed
to one, Your Honor.

- Everyone was yelling at me.

- Who was yelling at you,
Mr. Hodda?

- He was.

My own lawyer was.

Before that she was.

I didn't harm these boys.

None of them.

I swear to God,
Your Honor.

I'm innocent.

[suspenseful music]

- We'll wait for your attorney,
Mr. Hodda.

Is he on his way?
- No.

No, I fired that hack.

- Well, you need an attorney.

- Yeah, well, I'll be
my own lawyer.

Guy wanted to put me
in a box.

Just like she does.

- Uh, Mr. Barba,
is there a reason

why Lieutenant Benson joined us?

- Because I took
the defendant's confession.

- There was no confession.
- It's on video.

- I'd like to remind Mr. Hodda
how strong our case is,

and it's in his best interests
to honor the deal that he made.

- There was no deal.

She put words in my mouth!

She threatened me!

She hammered at me for hours!

- Because you admitted to
kidnapping Wyatt Morris,

a seven-year-old child, who
would be dead in that basement

if you didn't tell us
where he was.

- Oh, so...I saved his life.

That's what you're saying.

That's my crime?
I saved his life?

- You admitted to
kidnapping him,

just like you admitted
to killing Hector Rodriguez.

- Words in my mouth.

You're putting words
in my mouth.

- Mr. Hodda,
I strongly recommend you get

an experienced lawyer.

- Yeah?
Okay, new lawyer.

But that means we go to trial,

which means,
if you want to take me down,

you're gonna have to prove it.

You.
[laughs]

All of you.

And I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.

- Can he do this?
Just change his plea.

- He just did.

- So what do you do now?

- We'll go to trial with
our strongest case first.

The kidnapping of your son.

- So the evidence is fresh.

And Wyatt can identify Hodda
as the man who took him.

- He'd have to testify?

- He would, but we will give him
the best support available.

- So for killing Hector

you don't even accuse this man?

- The evidence is 16 years old,
and it's only circumstantial.

- He confessed.

- [sighs]
And he just recanted.

We don't need his confession
for the kidnapping.

- This is a major felony.

He's going to be put
away for a long time.

- No.

- No what?

- Wyatt's still traumatized.

We won't put him through this.

- Ms. Colfax.

Let's just talk about this
for a second.

- My ex-husband and I don't
agree on anything,

but we agree on this.

- And we believe that
Lewis Hodda murdered

at least two other children
besides Hector.

- So bring him
to trial on those.

- We don't have enough evidence.

He covered
his tracks with arson.

[somber music]

- I have to protect Wyatt.

- What about my son?

You would let the man who
murdered my child get away?

- I'm really sorry about
what happened to your son.

I really am.

But my son is--

I'm sorry.

- Laurie...

- So now, you can put him on
trial for what he did to Hector?

- We'll have to.

- And you can tell the jury
what he did to her son,

and--and the other murders?

So they'll know who that man is.

- It's up to the judge.

I'll do my best.

[dramatic music]

♪

- Hey, counselor!

On your way to the
Hodda motion hearing?

- Wish I weren't.

- All right, so, listen,
you know I'm going

to law school at night, right?

- I've alerted
the Bar Association.

- All right.

And you know how I've
been talking to you

about maybe shadowing?

Well, I think that I could
really learn a lot on this case.

- I don't know.

With, uh, Rollins out,
S.V.U. is short-staffed and--

- Ah, I checked with Liv.

She says Thanksgiving is slow.

This is the perfect time.

Come on.

- Fine.

First lesson.
Shadows do not speak.

They have no opinions.

- You won't even know I'm here.

- Barba,
you brought backup?

- Lisa Hassler.

What noble cause
brings you to court?

- I'm taking over
Hodda's defense.

Who's the arm candy?

- Detective Carisi, SVU.

- Hi.
- Night school, Fordham Law.

I got to tell you, I know
all your father's cases.

The Supreme Court arguments.

The Black Panther defense.

- You want to save
the taxpayers' money

and plea this down
to time served?

- I know you're the pro
bono queen, but Hodda?

He rapes and kills children.

- Allegedly and singular.

It's nice to meet you,
Detective.

- Lisa Hassler, huh?

Wow.

Her old man was a legend.

- Yeah, she's still
trying to impress him,

even though he's been
dead for 11 years.

- All right, let's get to it.

Ms. Hassler, you have a motion
to preclude any mention

of the Wyatt Morris
kidnapping in this trial?

- Yes, Your Honor.

If the prosecution wants to try
Mr. Hodda on that charge,

it's their right.

But it's not
part of this case,

so this jury shouldn't
hear about it.

- If it can't be introduced,
the State's case

for the murder of Hector
Rodriguez lacks context.

I wouldn't be able to explain

why the defendant was in
custody when he confessed.

The jury would be confused.

- And the State, having ground
this broken man down

for three years, would rather
see the jury prejudiced.

- The kidnapping goes to
the defendant's motive,

his interest in young boys,

and it exemplifies his common
pattern of criminal behavior.

It's relevant and
it's probatative.

- It's not even proven.

You can't just accuse
him of other crimes

to shore up a weak case.

- Mr. Barba,
you have the option

of trying Mr. Hodda
on the kidnapping.

- Yes, Your Honor.
We are reserving that right.

- Well, I'm sure you
have your reasons.

But in the meantime,

I'm not going to
muddy these waters.

Any mention of
the kidnapping is inadmissible.

- As should be Mr. Hodda's
coerced confession, Your Honor?

- Coerced?

The confession is on video.

Why don't you let the jury
decide if it's valid?

- Well, as your dad used to say,
Ms. Hassler,

"Worth a shot."

But the confession
is admissible.

- Well, the hearing was awesome.

- Uh, Barba didn't think so.

- He took a hit,
but the badinage.

I tell you, Hodda lucked out
with that new lawyer.

- And we're supposed
to be happy for him?

- No, we're not.

Oh, Barba said that it would
be really good if we could find

anything linking Hodda to Hector
while Hector was still alive.

- We gave him everything
we have from '99.

- Fin, what about
that auxiliary cop,

the one that found
Hector's lunch box?

I saw him at
Hodda's plea hearing.

- Lomatin?

He's nuts.

Munch thought he was
good for the crime.

- For a minute,
but he didn't do it.

- He's still nuts.

He's been leaving messages
for Rollins at 3:00 AM.

- He knew Hector.

He knew the neighborhood.

He's the one who noticed
the arson pattern

that got us to Hodda.

- He'll only talk to Rollins.

- Okay, so,
have her call him.

- It was great to hear
from Detective Rollins.

She said you guys wanted
to follow up with me?

- Well, we're kind of
up against it here.

We didn't know this
case was going to trial.

- Rollins reminded us
how much you cared.

- You know, every year, Hector's
mom had a little service here

on the anniversary of
the day he disappeared.

The last few years, no one from
the case came besides me.

No one.

- And no one but Officer
Lomatin noticed the pattern

that got us to Hodda.

Problem is, none of his other
crimes are admissible in court.

- Justice can be so blind.

- Did you ever see Lewis Hodda

hanging around Hector
or his school?

- No.

But I can say I did.

- Come again?

- This year's my last
chance to join the PD.

If it'll help get me
my real badge,

I'll say whatever you guys want.

- So how's it going with Carisi?

- You're sure you can spare him?

- If I need him back,
I'll let you know.

- Please.

- Olivia.

- Dr. Huang.

Hey.

Hey, you remember ADA Barba?

- We've met.

- So, the FBI let you
come back to New York?

- I wish.

They liked me
too much in Oklahoma,

I put in for early retirement.

I'm consulting now.

Speaking of which,
I've got to run.

- Okay, well,
we'll catch up later.

- Okay.

- You'll definitely
see him later.

Hassler hired him as her
expert forensic psychiatrist.

- For what?

Hodda's not insane.

He gave that confession
voluntarily.

Okay, it's not like we beat
him with rubber hoses.

- I'm sure you didn't,

but please don't sound
that defensive on the stand.

Hassler's sharp,
and Huang's a hired gun now.

They'll find something.

Anything?
- [sighs]

I've watched this whole
confession three times,

and this guy is crazy,

but he's not,
you know, crazy.

- Thank you, Dr. Carisi.

Thinking of taking up medicine
after you pass the bar?

- Not tonight.

I'm gonna take this care package
up to Rollins.

She's still on bed rest
and she's going shacky-wacky.

- You can drop it off
on your way uptown.

Hector's mother takes
the stand in the morning.

She could use some handholding.

Also, remind her,
Benson's not gonna be

in the courtroom for her.

- Right, 'cause she hasn't
testified herself yet.

I get it.
- Good.

Go, be supportive.
She's a good woman.

- Where's Delores?

- Her old apartment.
She never moved...

So Hector would be able to
find her if he ever came back.

- I always walked
Hector to school.

It's only two blocks.

One day, he said that he was
a big boy, un chico grande.

He wanted to go by himself.

I watched until
he got to the corner.

He turned and waved.

I never saw him again.

- Did you ever find out
what happened?

- I waited a long time.

I had hope.

And then they dug up
that basement.

Detective Benson
showed me a picture.

Hector's backpack.

- After Hector turned
that corner,

would his path have taken him

by the building that was
managed by the defendant?

- Yes.

I didn't know the defendant.

I had no idea.

- Of course you didn't.

Thank you.
- Mm-hmm.

- Mrs. Rodriguez,
I am so sorry for your loss.

- Thank you.

- And I'm sorry to make you
go back over all this.

But did you ever see
your son with Mr. Hodda?

- No.

- Did you ever see
Mr. Hodda at all

before the police arrested him

and told you he
had taken your son?

- I don't remember.

No.

- I guess you were surprised

that someone
who lived so close to you,

whom you'd never suspected, was
suddenly accused of this crime

after so many years.

- Uh, I suppose so.

- Over the years,
had the police told you

they wanted to solve
your son's murder?

- Yes.

Detective Benson.
She was very dedicated.

She wanted justice for Hector.

- That was important to her?

- Yes.

She wanted to help me.

And she felt bad for me.

- Of course she did.

And the only way to help you

was to find somebody to blame
for your son's murder.

- Objection.

Leading the witness.

- Sustained.

- I think we understand it.

[suspenseful music]

- Hold on, Hassler did what?

She made me look
too conscientious?

- She implied you
were so desperate

to get closure for Delores,
you manufactured a suspect.

- That's ridiculous.

And you let her
get away with it?

- I couldn't shoot her.

She's just doing her job.
She's good at it.

- So you let her
hang me out to dry.

- Table that.

You're up after lunch.
Let's prep.

- You know what?

I've actually testified
a few hundred times.

So I think I'll be fine.

I need to get back
to the squad room.

- No, you don't.

Lewis Hodda might walk if
Hassler can make the jury think

your emotions got in
the way of your police work,

which is what they're
doing right now.

I need you to sit your ass
down and work with me.

- Fine.

Start working.

- He had a backpack.

He started talking to me.

Bugging me.
- How?

- Followed me back
to my building.

- And?

- What?

- What happened?

- Nothing happened.
- Well, something happened.

- I'm not doing this.
I'm not--what?

- I'm just asking you
what happened?

- Nothing happened.

- Okay.

- But he said he was going to
tell his mother something did.

I can't have that.
- So?

- [sighs]

So I snapped his neck.

- So you did do it.
- Yeah.

And I put him under
the concrete slab.

- Were you present when the
defendant made that statement?

- Yes.

It was voluntary, and he had
been informed of his rights.

- What led you to suspect the
defendant in the first place?

- We learned that, uh, fresh
concrete had been poured

in the basement of a building
that he was managing

a few days after
Hector disappeared.

Our investigation then
turned up allegations

that he was
a child molester.

- What did the defendant say

when you asked him
about the concrete?

- That the old
floor had been

damaged by water
from a nearby fire.

We then determined that
the fire occurred too far away,

and it was impossible
for the water

to get back
to his building.

- To obtain his statement,
did you or your partner

apply any coercion,
physical violence, threats?

- Absolutely not.

- After Hector Rodriguez
disappeared in 1999,

what did the police conclude?

- Well, officially,
that he had been

taken by his father
in a custody dispute.

But I disagreed.

- So the New York Police
Department was wrong,

but you were right?

- Unfortunately, yes.

- How motivated were you
to prove you were right?

- [sighs]
Not motivated enough.

It took me almost a decade.

- But then, finally, you had--

you had Lewis Hodda in
your interrogation room.

- Yes, where he confessed

to murdering
a seven-year-old boy.

It's on the video.

- I am much more interested in
what is not on the video.

So...

You interrogated Lewis Hodda

for over six hours
before turning on a camera.

During all that time,
you didn't coerce him?

You didn't threaten him?

- No, I followed
police procedure.

- Did you tell him that
witnesses had seen him

with other children who
had been murdered?

- I may have.

- Was it true?

- Um, the Supreme Court
has ruled that

police are allowed to
make misrepresentations.

- By misrepresentations
you mean lies?

- Basically, yes.

- So, after lying to him

about these nonexistent
witnesses,

didn't you tell him...

and I quote...

"Nobody likes a chomo
in state prison"?

- Yes, but it was
a matter of urgency.

The defendant had another child.

- Your Honor, please
instruct the witness to

answer the question only.

- Lieutenant, you are flirting
with causing a mistrial.

The jury will disregard.

- What is a chomo, Lieutenant?

- It's a child molester.

- And chomos--or child
molesters--are themselves

frequently assaulted
in prison, are they not?

- Objection.

Lieutenant Benson
is not a prison warden.

- I'll allow it.

- Yes, they are.

- So, you lied about
having the evidence

that would send him to prison

and you threatened to label him
a chomo when he got there.

- We had good reason to believe
that he was a child molester.

- And you promised to

advertise that belief
to insure he would be assaulted

when he got to prison.

Then, and only then,
did he confess.

- He confessed
because he was guilty.

- I confessed because she said
she was going to get me killed.

Sorry, but that's what happens
to chomos in prison.

- And what did she say would
happen if you cooperated?

- That she'd put the word out
I wasn't a chomo,

and so I'd be safe.

- Did you believe her?

- I believe
they were framing me,

that they could do
whatever they wanted to,

that I had to say what
they wanted me to say

if I was ever going to
get out of there alive.

I believed...

- Did you murder
Hector Rodriguez?

- I never saw
that little--

I never saw that little boy
before in my life.

- Do you have
any idea why his body

was found in a building
you managed?

- Well, that building
was full of--

of ex-cons,

welfare cheats,
drug addicts.

The whole neighborhood
was like a war zone.

I don't even know
where to begin.

It was terrible.

- Thank you, Mr. Hodda.

- You were the manager of
the building, though.

Did you order the concrete
or did the drug addicts?

- I did.

- Because a fire
200 yards away

resulted in water flowing uphill
toward your building.

- I don't remember.

Building needed new concrete,
I got it new concrete.

- Okay, you don't remember that,
but you do remember this.

- He had a backpack.

He started talking to me.

Bugging me.

Followed me back
to my building.

- You remembered that
he had a backpack.

- Kids have backpacks, okay?

- Did you put the backpack
into the ground with Hector

when you buried him?

- No.

- You remember laying your hands
on Hector Rodriguez?

- There's nothing to remember.
I never did that.

- You were sexually attracted
to him, weren't you?

- No.

- Why were you repeatedly
found hanging around

children's playgrounds in the
years after Hector was murdered?

- I wasn't.
That's one of her lies.

- No, it wasn't.

People's exhibit 6A and B.

Police reports.

- Uh, so what?

Playgrounds are parks.

I like--I go to parks.

- I like parks too.

I don't hang around
staring at little boys.

- Now you're doing
what she did.

Putting out that lie.

- What lie?

You hang out at playgrounds.

A little boy
was found dead

in the basement of
your building.

You said you killed him.

- I told you why I said that.

- You told me what?
Because you were afraid?

Because you were afraid
of being hurt in prison?

Or because you were afraid

of hearing the truth
about yourself,

which is you like little boys?

- [chuckles]
I'm not afraid of anything.

- Then tell me,
where exactly did you

put your hands
on Hector Rodriguez?

- I never touched him
down there, never, I--

- You never touched
him down there?

Where did you touch him then?

- [indistinct stutter]

[tense music]

♪

- Hey, nice cross, Counselor.

- Little boys.

Thank you.
It was a tell.

- Yeah, but what
you did with it.

If that had been
a boxing match,

they would have thrown
in the towel right there.

- Are you gloating?

- Guilty.

- Nothing makes me happier
than to see a member

of the patriarchy
strut before he falls.

- Hmm, I seem to be on my feet.

I'd say your client just made
quite an impression on the jury.

- I'd say you did.
And thank you.

- I would describe
Lewis Hodda as scarred.

He was physically abused
by an alcoholic father

and never resolved
his fear of him,

and he compensated
by taking pride

in impulsive physical behavior
and macho posturing.

- Dr. Huang, why would
such a person admit

to a crime he didn't commit?

- Well, the only way that
he could avoid beatings

was to do what
his father demanded.

And so, if another authority
figure were to threaten him,

he might respond by
doing what that person wanted.

- Do you mean an authority
figure like a police detective?

- That would qualify.

- Who threatened to harm him by
tossing him in prison

with the label
of child molester?

- That threat would be
particularly potent to someone

clinging onto the idea of
himself as hyper-masculine.

- What if someone like
an Assistant District Attorney

insisted that he was
attracted to little boys?

- Your Honor.

- We all saw it.
It happened.

- Rephrase the question.

- What if an authority figure

publicly insisted
that Mr. Hodda

was attracted to little boys?

- That assertion would be
the psychological equivalent

of the strap that his father
beat him with.

- So he might say
whatever he thought

that official wanted him to say?

- Well, if his emotional
defenses were breached,

it could trigger
that kind of compliance.

- So to avoid being beaten
by an accusation

he feared and hated,

might he admit to touching
a child he'd never even met?

- Objection.

We are now beyond hypothetical.

- Dr. Huang is
an expert witness.

I'm asking for
his expert opinion.

- Overruled.

- Dr. Huang?

- Yes.

Mr. Hodda might say anything.

[elevator dings]

- Huang.

- Olivia.

- What the hell were
you doing up there?

- Testifying.

- For that man?

You and I used to put
people like that away.

You know what he did to Hector.

What he did to Wyatt.

- To Wyatt, yes.
But to Hector, I don't know.

- So you think I coerced him?

Is that what you think?

How long have we
known each other?

- Olivia, he's suggestible.

It may not have
been your intent,

but if you planted an idea,
he might have believed it.

- He believed it
because he did it!

- I'm sorry,
but I don't know that,

and neither do you.

[elevator dings]

- It was Stephen Lomatin,
a young auxiliary officer,

who first discovered
the missing boy's lunch box.

Stephen, how emotional
was it for you

when you made that discovery?

- Uh, it was very emotional.

This job can be very emotional.

You feel like you're looking

for a member of
your own family.

- So, when Hector Rodriguez
disappeared in 1999,

you were the one who
found his lunch box?

- Yes, I was.

- Hundreds of people looking,

and you were
the one who found it.

- I was trained by the NYPD.

And I have good eyes.

- [chuckles]
Good eyes.

You didn't--you didn't find it
because you knew where to look?

- No.
How would I?

- That's what
I've been wondering.

- Objection.

- Sustained.
Ms. Hassler.

- You'd--you'd often...

spoken with Hector,
isn't that right?

- I was friendly with
all the kids up there.

- How friendly?

- I resent these implications.

- Oh, I'm--I'm sure you do.

Did you resent it when
SVU Sergeant John Munch

interrogated you
about this case?

- It wasn't an interrogation.

I was discussing aspects
of the case with him.

- You didn't take offense when
he considered you a suspect?

- Objection.
No foundation.

- Uh, sustained.
Jury will disregard.

- Thank you, Your Honor.

Because that guy Munch,
he was a conspiracy nut.

His own captain
apologized to me.

So did the other detectives.

- You mean the ones
who found pictures of

Hector Rodriguez
all over your attic?

Defense exhibit 13C.

Photos of Mr. Lomatin's attic.

[tense music]

♪

So...this looks like
the work of a man obsessed.

- I was doing research.

- For 13 years?

You visited Hector's mother.

You went to his memorial.

- Objection.

Is there a question?

- Yes.

♪

How long have you been
taking anti-psychotic drugs?

- Objection.
Relevance.

- Sustained.

- Thank you, Your Honor.

I just care about children,

even when no one else does.

- So you have a special
relationship with children?

- Not like that.

- Did you murder
Hector Rodriguez?

- Judge, this is ridiculous.
There's the guy who did it!

Right there!

- Mr. Lomatin,
just answer the question.

- I will not dignify
that question

with an answer,
Your Honor.

- I'm not hearing a no.

♪

- And so,

there can only be
only one logical conclusion.

From the physical evidence
of this horrible crime,

as well as from his own words,

you must find the defendant
Lewis Hodda

guilty.

Thank you.

- Members of the jury, that
concludes the closing arguments,

which means it's time for you
to begin your deliberations.

As you do, remember
that the defendant

is presumed to be innocent.

You must find
the defendant not guilty,

unless you conclude

the People have
proven him guilty

beyond a reasonable doubt.

With that in mind, this case
is now in your hands.

Godspeed.

[indistinct chattering]

- The fact that the jurors
are taking their time

means the jury's taking
their duty very seriously.

- It's been two days already.

What issues are
they grappling with?

- Mainly, the weakness of
the People's case, which relies

almost solely on a confession
extorted by police threats.

- She's still making her case.

- The jurors aren't supposed
to watch the news.

- More and more cases
of police officers

who are out of control...

They abuse power.

We just need some more policies
in places like this that do it.

- Why don't you help
people who deserve it?

That man killed my boy.

- Okay, Mrs. Rodriguez,
it's all right.

- He killed my boy.
- It's all right.

- Delores.
- Not now, not now.

- Delores.
- Not now.

- Mr. Barba, any comment?

- Uh, the People have
complete confidence

in the common sense
of the jurors.

That's all we ask for,
and that's all we need.

- Anything?

- Nope.
Five days.

- Hector's mother is
barely holding it together.

Liv's with her.

You still studying?
- No.

Check this out.
The jurors' social media.

Juror Number One,
the forewoman.

Name's Sharon Daley.

She's been posting
for months about

this big family reunion
she's having at Thanksgiving.

- Holiday's coming
and the jury's stuck

in a hotel on Staten Island.

- Yeah, they all got to be
dying to get out of there.

[phone vibrating]
- Hold on.

Hey, what's up, Amanda?

Yeah?

Oh, hold on.
I'll come get you.

- What, the baby coming?

- Something's happening.
Doctor wants to check on her.

You cool holding down the fort?
- Yeah, yeah, go.

[text alert chiming]
I'm good, I'm good.

I want to be close in case
the jury comes back anyway...

Which they just did.

- Happy Thanksgiving.

- Verdict?

- Madam Forewoman,
I received your note.

You have a question?
- Not me, Your Honor.

One of the other jurors.

- Actually, a few of us want
to hear the rules again

for deciding if
a confession is voluntary.

- Very well.

Under our law,
a statement is not voluntary

if it is obtained by use

or the threatened use
of physical force

or by any other improper
conduct or undue pressure.

For example,

what the police promised
or said to the defendant,

the defendant's treatment
during the period of detention

and questioning,

and the amount of time
or the length of time

of the defendant's questioning.

[tense music]

- Undue pressure?
That chomo business.

I can't believe they're
using that against you.

- They don't know
the whole story.

Hodda had kidnapped
another boy.

I had to get him to
tell me where he was.

- I get it.
Totally.

- Give us a sec.

- I keep going over
it in my head.

- Liv? Liv?

He'd kidnapped another child.

You had to get him to
tell you where Wyatt was.

- I know.
[phone vibrates]

I know.

Hey, Fin, what's going on?

Is she all right?

- Doc says the heart rate
slowed up,

so they put Amanda on a monitor.

Right now, it's just
watch and wait.

Hold on.

You want to talk to Liv?

- Maybe later.

- Maybe a little later.

Is it cool if
I stay for a while?

Okay, I'll keep you posted.
- [exhales slowly]

- You okay?
You need anything?

- Yeah, I'll just feel
better when this is over.

- Mr. Barba!

I've been trying to reach you.
I left seven messages.

- Oh, well, there's
nothing to talk about.

The case has already
gone to the jury.

- Oh no, that's the thing,
one of the jurors,

Juror Number Four,
Thomas Johnson, he lied.

- Wait, how do you--
how did you know his name?

- I gave a court clerk 50 bucks.

- You commit--
you bribed a court clerk?

- I checked Johnson out.

He was arrested in Maryland
for assault last year.

The charges were dropped,
but he lost his job.

- Okay, well, there must be
10,000 Thomas Johnsons.

- No, no, no.
It's him, it's him.

I went to his house
in my uniform

and I talked to his sister.

It's him.
He's on the jury,

and he doesn't like cops.

- You committed bribery,

impersonated a real
police officer,

and you tampered with a juror?

- He could be in
that room right now,

poisoning the entire jury.

Okay, you have to
tell the judge.

- And ask for what?

A mistrial?

It's too late to bring
in an alternate.

- I didn't know that.

I should have acted faster,
but I did find it out.

You'll tell the NYPD
what I did, won't you?

- Oh, yeah.
You can count on it.

- How much do you want reread?

- Again, not me, Your Honor.

One of us wants to hear
Lieutenant Benson's testimony,

as well as the defendant's
and the psychiatrist's.

- All of it?

- I'm not really sure
what good it will do.

- Excuse me.

I'm not the only one
who would benefit from this.

- Every juror has the right.

The court reporter will begin.

- We need to talk.

We've both had our fun.
It's time to end this.

- It's almost Thanksgiving.

They're going to
come in with a verdict.

- Yeah, but which one?

Does he need to be here?

- To chaperone, yes.

What do you want to talk about?

- My client will take a plea.

- He agreed to a plea once
before and changed his mind.

- Yeah, but it
wasn't a good plea.

- And a good plea would be?

- Criminally negligent homicide.

- Are you kidding?
- Shush.

How much time?

- Eight years?

- She started with three.

- Eight years for
killing my baby?

- You've got to say no.

- I'm going to say yes.

Juries that stay out
this long don't convict.

- Then why did Hassler
offer anything?

- Because juries are
unpredictable, you never know.

- You just said--
- I know.

I don't know.
Nobody knows.

- Then why did you
invite us here

if you'd already made up
your mind?

- To try to make you understand.

Mainly you, Senora Rodriguez.

Por favor.
Entiendes.

I've done the best I could.

- No, I know you have.

It's just that man.
I--

If you think
that this is best, I--

Okay.

Okay.

- So, I understand
you've reached a deal.

- We have, Your Honor.

- Can't say I'm surprised.

You want to tell me what it is?

- Well.

- Ah.

From the jury again.

- Another question?

- No.
They're deadlocked.

They claim it's hopeless.

- Hopeless?

- Huh.

- We still have a deal.

- Do we?

You should have
said yes earlier.

Deal's off.

[suspenseful music]

[door opens and closes]

- If this is about the upcoming
holiday, you have a duty.

- It's not that.

People are getting angry.

It's getting very tense.

- Physical intimidation
is not allowed.

If there's a problem, you should
speak to a court officer.

- I'm sorry.

We've really tried.

There isn't any point.

- Very well.

If that's where we are,

I'm declaring a mistrial.

Defendant's remand continues

while the State decides
how it wants to proceed.

The jury is dismissed
and the court is adjourned.

[gavel knocking]

[tense music]

♪

- What does that mean,
"while the State decides"?

- We can retry Hodda.

- A-and do this all over again?

Will it turn out any different?

- Mrs. Rodriguez.

- Excuse us.

- I just want to say
I'm so sorry.

- We all are.

At least most of us.

That man is evil.

It was plain as day.

- And you were very brave.

- What the hell happened
in that jury room?

- Well, one of the jurors
thought Lomatin was guilty.

- And two were worried
the confession was coerced.

I'm sorry, Liv.

- You are going to
try him again?

This cannot end here.

- It shouldn't.
And we'll see.

- Some of the jurors
would like to, uh,

light a candle
for Hector tonight.

Is that okay?

- Of course.

- Okay.
And thank you, Mr. Barba.

I-I-I know how hard
you tried.

- You guys going up
to the memorial?

- No. I'm going to spell
Fin at the hospital,

keep Rollins company.

- Liv, how about
we go up together?

- Yeah, I-I'll, uh--
I'll meet you there.

[somber music]

♪

[car wheels turning]

♪

[car door opens]

[car door closes]

♪

- Hi.

♪

- I'm so sorry.

- He's getting away with it.

- No, he won't.

I spoke with my ex-husband

and Wyatt.

And we all want to help.

We'll cooperate.

We'll go to trial.
All right?

♪

- Carisi, go home.

Fin will be back here soon.

- Yeah, well, I'll wait
till he gets here, okay?

You want some more ice chips?

- Uh-uh.

- Hey, how's it going?

- We're getting pretty close.

Contractions are
five minutes apart, so...

- Yeah?

- Hey Amanda,
how you holding up?

- I'm tired and
it hurts like hell.

And they say it's too
late for an epidural.

- Oh.

- Oh.

[groans]

- Okay, here we go.

Just breathe, you got this.

- [groans]
- Yeah, I know, I know.

You're doing great, Amanda.

- [screams]

[groans]

[wailing]

No, no, no.
That is not a contraction.

That's not a contraction.
It's in my back.

[wailing]
It was my back.

[monitor alerting]
It was the drug.

- Okay, hang on.
- This is the drug.

- We need a doctor in here.
- Help!

- Just hang on, we're gonna get
a doctor in here right now.

Hey.
- [wailing]

- What? What is it?

No, is that blood?

- We're going to
take care of you.

Dr. Sloan! Dr. Sloan!

- They're going to get
a doctor right now, okay?

- She's hemorrhaging.

The fetal heart rate
is decelerating.

- I need you to step out.
Now.

[monitor alerting]

- What is it?

[breathing rapidly]

[suspenseful music]

[wailing]

♪