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Welcome to West Hollywood where the women are strong

and the men are pretty.

For this area of West Hollywood has become the Mecca

in the homosexual community.

And one of the reasons gay men give

for having come here is that they feel more comfortable.

Two African-American gay men

took their last breaths in the West Hollywood home

of a wealthy Democratic donor.

Ed Buck is well-known in West Hollywood

battling city hall for causes near and dear to his heart

and spending big bucks on candidates who support his views.

Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean

have both died of overdoses in Buck's West Hollywood

apartment in the last couple of years.

The LA County Sheriff's Department

says they have found no suspicious circumstances

of foul play.

We have a lot of victims who have came forward.

ED Buck needs to be stopped.

A loud call for DA Jackie Lacey

to prosecute Buck for murder.

It's your cake.

Put the damn candles out.

- You can come water- - What are you gonna do?

You're not gonna pour a cup of water on that cake.

What is going on?

- Gemmel was a 26 year old young son,

brother, friend, trying to maneuver through life.

- After Gemmel was gone, I didn't at all think

that it was going to be swept under the rug like that.

It was a surreal realization of how invaluable

my life as a black gay man was.

- We are his extended family.

My love for Gemmel will be endless,

and we do wanna make sure that this never happens again.

Oh, look at me, look at me.

I got to get two.

- Danny, this was a great meet.

- One thing about Tim, he would step up to the plate

when needed.

You can call and tell him what you need.

A, B, C, D, E, and he'd follow it to the note.

- He was always looking out for people.

Tim was a really special guy, and I really didn't get

to see the 360 view of him until he passed.

- Gemmel and Timothy had never crossed paths

with each other coming together.

When you realize how many lives

those two individuals touched and had their life

not being as precious as it was to so many people.

We probably wouldn't be here.

- Gemmel and I met when we both were coming out

to explore our gay side and interact with the gay community.

We were both kind of standoffish

and that's kinda how us two were attracted to each other

'cause when we would be at events

and we both we just kinda holding the wall up.

- He was always like very mischievous and quiet.

- He liked to be in new places and be where nobody knew him

and, you know, be the boy that was mysterious.

He didn't talk very much and you know,

he just kind of give a little bit,

give a little bit here and a little bit there

and maybe do a little bit something crazy

and then just disappear.

He loved doing that.

We were part of the house and ballroom community,

which is a sub community within the LGBT community.

- The ballroom is basically like a pageant.

You have different categories.

You pick members that are pretty much

the best at each category and they compete

against each other.

It's like a fraternity, but gay.

Being black and coming to West Hollywood

when you're not accepted, they kind of look out for you.

- Ballroom and house community started way back

during Stonewall.

Being gay was basically illegal.

A lot of gays were ousted by their families

and thrown to the streets.

They came together in different groups

and it was actually a house.

What a gay family

or gay ballroom family would do,

we would take you in so you wouldn't be on the street.

- I was Gemmel's gay house mother.

Usually we would drink and as we say,

Kiki and carry and hang out.

He carried a liking for my aesthetic,

the fact that I was always polished and put together.

He's one boy that I knew that honestly took

about the same time to get ready as me.

At one point we kind of like all live together.

I had an apartment, I just never went home.

You know, and I think that was just

because we were kind of like all just in love

with each other and loving the fact that our chosen family

was just kind of like together

and stuck together all the time.

Gemmel was a home body.

He's actually really, really funny.

Juelz was his alter ego, quiet,

and he talked with like a real deep voice.

- Often within the house and ballroom community

individuals give their self aliases, our other names.

I think personally it came from trying to keep your life

separate, your gay life within the community separate

from your actual life and your family.

Gemmel walked to school boy

and he walked pretty boy too.

Looked really young and didn't look like

he was gay or anything, just looked like a normal person.

He was trying

to keep his masculinity, that was a big thing for him.

- Don't ever put my real name on no cake.

I don't want anybody to know my shit.

- He will be like bro, don't call me Gemmel.

Like don't call me that.

In the community he was Juelz and nobody really knew Gemmel.

Gemmel is the oldest

of his brothers and sisters

and they all looked up to him.

Gemmel took the role of being a big brother

very serious, but not only being a big brother,

being a support to his mom.

And his mother's a single mother.

Gemmel was a jokester.

He loved to cook.

He was nurturing, he was loving.

He was my bookee.

I called him bookee.

Gemmel came out to me at 17, he was 17 years old.

He left home and I didn't know what was going on.

He called me and he goes, mom, I got something to tell you.

"I'm gay."

And I said, I already knew.

Okay, and what's next?

And we all have skeleton.

I don't judge anyone.

She didn't really know his life here.

He was very compartmentalized and very, very private.

Even his closest friends, he kept

his relationships separate.

- Tim growing up, we had a lot of similar stories.

The laughter, the music, the family.

Tim mother, they had a lot of kids.

They didn't have the structure monetarily

to be able to raise Tim.

So they gave up Tim to some family friends

that lived across the street.

It was done out of love but when you're a child

that's not the first thing you think of

when you find out something like that.

Growing up black and gay and having to suppress that

'cause he was a super athlete.

I've talked to his family and they've told me,

Tim always had greater ambitions for himself

and they knew that he wasn't gonna last there.

Through high school in his head he always like,

where could I go and just recreate myself.

TMD come out to LA and just be somebody like that.

♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

♪ Happy birthday ♪

♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

- Tim's birthday in March of 2016,

a couple of players were there

and I said we need to go to Paris

and we needed to play.

I said you, and he goes, I'm down, I'm down.

- We're heading into the opening ceremonies right now.

So I'm about to flip you around.

- The gay games in '94 was my very first tournament

and I was shocked 'cause I had never been to a gay pride,

I had never been to a gay tournament

or any kind of gay event.

- One, two, three. - Rock Dogs!

- I got ball out.

Tim, he came and he played his butt off.

- Okay, let me just tell you what his nickname was.

TMD, too much drama.

That was his name on the court.

Right here, Tim.

Nobody's...

- It was about basketball.

But if you can really quickly a lot more.

I mean, we just had so much in common.

He loved fashion and he loved home decor.

Tim would travel with candles, fabrics,

and him and Walter were the foo foo masters.

- We'd make it look like our apartment.

We'd bring books and stuff and flowers

and then everybody would always come to our room

and it was just a lot, a lot of fun.

- Tim and Walter played on the LA Heat.

They would put a boombox in the middle of the court.

It looked like "The Hoosiers" or something.

- They were a train wreck for a long time.

They truly were.

- I don't care what they say, we might've been that good,

but we were LA.

Okay.

So when LA come to town, LA gonna show out

and our team was very good looking too, by the way.

So everybody wanted to be like us, you know what I mean,

with our style, but it couldn't be LA, you know.

Even though I thought, oh, you know, you know,

I know everything.

I didn't know everything.

I knew what he wanted me to, what he felt

comfortable sharing with me.

- He needed to fill needs with different people, you know,

and he kind of kept those people in different boxes.

You know, he had Walter and I.

He had his work friends.

He had a hiking group.

- Coming to Runyon, you know, five times,

six times a week to go hiking,

we would come at 5:30 in the morning.

I'd go pick him up and it was about the sunrise

and just talking about just this whole Cuisinart,

you never knew which, what the conversation was gonna be.

Talking about boys, just talking about dating

and relationships, just talking about school and goals.

We both had struggled with certain chemicals

and partying and with Tim, it was just about

how we would support each other in that.

- You know, a lot of times Tim would get depressed.

He would see the outside world.

People seem to have so much and it comes so easy

and he was always going, why is everything

so difficult for me?

- He was going to school and he had, he worked.

He lived paycheck to paycheck.

He was on his own.

- Gemmel always talked about

like, oh, I'm getting back into school.

I'm getting back into work.

And that, around that time he was not doing good in life.

He lost his job.

Life situations happened.

And he did not wanna really communicate that to anybody

because he was very big on how people saw him.

He saw my life

and he knew I was an escort.

He asked me about it

and I kinda shunned from him 'cause I know

the problems that came along with it.

And so, to me being a parent,

you don't want your kids to go through what you went through

so you try to like push it away.

But sometimes pushing it way we'll make them

go straight for that and that's exactly what he did.

- I knew he was escorting.

I ensured him to be safe and cautious and protect himself.

Being a black man in this day and age, you are already,

you know, at odds

so be smart about it.

And I felt like he was being cautious for quite a while.

I didn't know Ed Buck personally.

I did know that it was as a client.

- He told me about when you first started meeting

with Ed Buck.

Gemmel said he had hit him up numerous times online,

but he never responded.

But a friend brought him there.

Gemmel was like, oh, you know,

you wanna come make like $600.

You don't have to do nothing.

You just have to hang out and you know,

talk to this guy and for an hour or so

and he's gonna pay.

Let's start at the beginning, who is Ed Buck?

Buck was a well-known activist.

Originally from Arizona, he reportedly made

around a million dollars selling a courier company.

Ed Buck, a Conservative Republican

started the Mecham recall campaign.

Buck is also a homosexual.

- I mean, there may be widespread disgust

with homosexuality in Arizona,

but the disgust for Evan Mecham is even stronger.

- Black used to, first it was to be,

they called them colored and then they wanted

to be called Negroes and now they wanna be called blacks.

And I call them whatever they wanna be called.

Ed Buck championed for MLK's birthday

because politically and socially it looked good

to be doing that.

I believe that Ed Buck created a mirror person

for the public and for the world to see.

When you came out as being gay,

he got a lot of slack from his own Republican party

and he switched parties and became a Democrat.

Buck moved to West Hollywood

back in the early 90s.

He was a regular donor to a variety of political campaigns,

advocated for LGBTQ issues and once ran

for West Hollywood City Council.

Ed Buck, volunteer coordinator

for the California Healthy Pets Act and the animal rescue.

- Getting rid of fur in the city of West Hollywood

was had big, you know coup for him.

West Hollywood, California

is the nation's first fur free city.

- You know, I having been a resident

of West Hollywood for a long time

and I will tell you that I'm so proud of my city right now.

He's well-known in West Hollywood.

He was the vice president of like the Stonewall,

Democratic club.

- I met Tim through.

They had known each other for quite a long time,

at least 10 years.

He worked on a couple of campaigns,

printing out signs, calling.

Ed Buck, well he knew powerful people.

So Tim attached himself a little bit to that.

That was something that's very attractive to him.

I would see him out at the gym.

But I always tell him, I said, I don't know Tim.

I said, I don't know something about him.

I don't know how to explain it,

but he just rubbed me the wrong way

that I just knew this was not somebody

that I was ever going to be friends with.

- Gemmel, he didn't think that there was

gonna be any foul play initially, you know.

As time went Ed begin to push the boundaries

and ask me more and more and more of him

and in turn offer more and more and more money.

Around that time when he first met Ed,

that was when he first got introduced to shooting up meth.

Can you put these underwear on and just model these

underwear for me?

And then it began to be more degrading and more degrading.

What he got off on sexually, was testing the limits.

I mean, literally what he said as he would shoot them up,

your African blood can take it.

You know, your nigger blood can take it.

- If you wanna call us something that is the last term

that a lot of our ancestors heard before they died

for your sexual gratification,

that lets me know your mental state right there.

That also lets me know how vulnerable Gemmel was.

Around that time, I was battling the,

I was battling an addiction that nobody else knew about.

I had got severely depressed.

My grandmother had died.

I was around the wrong people.

I started doing coke which is very big in our community.

And that's some of my biggest regrets

'cause I think that we both could have

helped each other out.

I feel that maybe if I would have been able to be candid

and transparent with what I was going through,

he would have felt comfortable enough

or okay enough to tell me what he was going through.

- It's really, really difficult to know

that he was doing it because he looked at me

and was like, okay, well, you know, you're doing it

and you're okay.

And you know, but everything affects people differently.

- I've genuinely been noticing

the rapid rate of crystal meth

and how it's affecting our community,

especially in West Hollywood on Santa Monica.

And it's just so tragic to see the kids roaming

in the daytime.

- Crystal meth is really dangerous.

And it's not just any drug.

It's a drug that really attacks your nervous system

and your physical and your mental state of being.

When I take meth helps me get

into a sexual character, things

that I will probably never say or do

or allow to happen, I can give a performance of my life.

At first it's that Superman feeling

and you feel invincible.

But then your body becomes dependent on it.

You need it just to get out of bed.

- It amplified fear, paranoia, shame, regret.

It is so strong that diction of it.

And even when I say it like the movie like the movie "It"

like that clown would sit in the sewer and lure you in.

Crystal meth destroys you.

I believe that it is true when you are vulnerable

and especially a lot of us men,

we don't like being vulnerable.

People sniff you out.

The only time that Tim and I actually had a conversation

about Ed Buck, I'll never forget.

He looked right at me and he said,

don't you take your ass over there.

And I said, I'm not going over there.

And then you know, kinda snickered 'cause he's like shit,

I ain't going over there.

And Tim's phone, it was all these messages

that he never responded to.

He went like this, look.

I'm not going over there.

When somebody can go like this on their iPhone

and it swipe and it rolls like the prices right wheel.

He's like, look, I aint trying to end up dead.

- Gemmel and I, you know, we started falling out.

- He started getting skinny.

He stopped coming around as much.

And it was just kinda like,.

This is not Gemmel.

- I didn't sugarcoat anything with him.

I let his ass have it.

It was like, bitch you need to fucking get

your shit together.

Like this is disgusting and it's ridiculous.

And I will be a part of your life

you know, if you want me to be here.

But I can't be a part of what you're doing right now,

you know, to yourself, like I can't,

I can't watch you go through this.

I took his keys and I told him that he can not stay here.

That's when he's like to me to go stay with Ed Buck.

- I can't, I can't.

Sorry.

- Gemmel stated, "I pray that I just get my life together

and make sense.

I help so many people, but can't seem to help myself.

I honestly don't know what to do.

I become addicted to drugs and the worst one at that.

Ed Buck is the one to thank.

He gave me my first injection of crystal sick meth.

It was very painful, but after all the troubles,

I became addicted to the pain in the fetish and fantasy."

I feel like I'm reading my own story,

'cause this is what I was going through.

"But slowly my brain,

my mind and actions change.

I am not the same person I was born to be.

I felt as if I sold my soul to the devil."

Oh god...

"I want to be back in God's hands."

"I want to be healed

from drugs, poverty, and troubles."

- "I just hope the end result isn't my death.

Someone needs to save me soon.

The only person in my corner is the person

who turned me this way I feel right now."

"I honestly don't care

to live this life anymore.

I don't wanna die.

I feel like I've done way too much

that this lifetime allows."

- "If it didn't hurt so bad, I'd kill myself."

- "But I let Ed Buck do it for now.

I miss my grandma."

- I was talking to his mom.

She was like, where is he?

Like, he's not talking to me like Sammy,

like what's going on?

You know?

And I just straight up told her, you know,

he's fucking addicted to drugs.

So she came down here.

She just got to spend time with him.

And he just got to spend time with her

and be his mom's baby.

Life had beat him up.

He went home to be with his mom and his grandma's there.

He loves her.

And I'm like, oh, he's with his family.

I just felt like he was in a better place.

One of the most shocking things

I found out about meth is like if you take a drug addict

and every day, this drug addict shot up

underneath the train and the train passing,

the train passing; they can be clean for years

and years and years.

Just the memory of a train passing,

literally their body will release those endorphins.

and you will instantly feel that high.

Although Gemmel had been sober and clean for a while,

he had gotten any of the tools to understand

like what this had done to his mind.

- The weekend of July 27th, I woke up

at like the early in the morning.

My partner was in the bed looking on his phone.

And he said, have you talked to anybody?

And I said, no, why?

And he said, I think Gemmel is dead.

And I'm like, what?

Get outta here.

We started checking social media.

I started reaching out to some of my friends

and right away, I thought about Gemmel's mom

'cause I knew how much he loved his mom.

And I knew how much she loved him.

So I hurried up and sent her a message

and she responded that she loved me

and that's what was my confirmation that, yeah.

When he died,

I didn't know that they were talking about my Juelz.

I thought they were talking about some guy named Gemmel

who I didn't know who he was.

- I just, I didn't even know he was here.

Yeah, I didn't even know he was here.

- I knew it was true and I just didn't know what happened.

There was like a thousand stories.

- I didn't know about Ed Buck paying for the flight

or Ed Buck being involved at all.

- My name is LaTisha Nixon.

I'm Gemmel Moore's mom.

I'm calling out the West Hollywood Sheriff's Department

to please launch a thorough investigation

into the supposedly accidental death of my son.

I'm wondering why wasn't Ed Buck held accountable

for the California Drug Dealer Liability Act.

- There was a 911 call that somebody was in distress,

911 arrived and that person was deceased.

And 911 decided to just take that body out of the home

and go on as business as usual.

- The sheer quantity of drugs,

I mean, everywhere, like a shrine.

- Had one sheriff that night did their full job

and picked up that backpack,

opened that backpack and just looked at the first page

of his journal.

You didn't have to look through it.

You didn't even have to open it because it's already

open to that page.

Nixon said she was flabbergasted

when she saw the surveillance images Fox 11 obtained

exclusively from Buck's apartment building

the night her son was found dead.

They allegedly show another young man trying

to get up to Bucks apartment while deputies

were still on scene before he's shooed away.

- So when they were taking Gemmel's body out of the house,

the police was forcing the next victim to not come in.

And to me, that might, if that I, to me,

the police should have question that.

- Thank God, for the apartment manager

'cause he put out the video,

showing the police standing there talking with Ed Buck

for hours.

He was never put in handcuffs, nothing was done.

- I'm calling on the leaders.

I'm calling on anybody who will listen.

You know, it seems like everyone's turning a blind eye

because my son was a gay black man.

- This fight, I didn't think it was worth it

'cause as a gay black man, I had already felt

that nobody cared about what was going on.

- Disturbing story out of California.

Joining us from Skype is Los Angeles journalist

Jasmyne Cannick.

Jasmyne, are you concerned at how police are investigating

what took place at this home of Ed Buck?

- We're all concerned because you know,

as I've been telling people only a white man

could have a dead black body in his house

and explain it away to the police,

have them say, okay, nothing to see here,

pack it up, let's take the body and move along.

- Jasmyne Cannick. - Jasmyne Cannick.

- Jasmyne Cannick.

- Jasmyne Cannick, journalist and activist.

Social and political commentator,

Jasmyne Cannick.

From Los Angeles, Jasmyne Cannick.

a syndicated columnist and a lesbian.

- Jasmyne grew up as a black lesbian woman

in a time when West Hollywood was just racist.

- I'm African American, I'm also a lesbian.

And quite frankly, the campaign against propositioning

was poorly run.

- Black LGBT people had to create their own clubs

in undesirable areas, in warehouses.

That's how Black Pride came about

because we could not go party out there.

And she grew up in the trenches of that

and she understood what it was to have to fight

through those hurdles and fight through those barriers.

And now she looks at our generation

and she wants to make sure that we have somebody

that's gonna teach us how to push through these barriers.

- If the roles had been reversed

and Ed Buck had died and Gemmel had lived,

Gemmel would have been in jail.

- She was able to get the point across, you know,

and I think that's where she were very instrumental

because to me, she went out there,

she did the interviews and she kept the word out there

about this injustice.

- You have to get in these the elected officials faces

and you have to make them uncomfortable in their spaces.

Okay?

- If they don't care, make them care.

That's just been her attitude from day one.

And after that we said that we wasn't gonna

let this go away.

So Jasmyne started telling the story

and I started doing the street work.

How do you move on without your son?

I started organizing and I started getting folks together.

I started making noise in rooms that they didn't want

noise to be made in.

No black question...

We were was harassing Ed Buck.

That's Ed Buck right there.

Excuse me, you're his neighbor.

You know this man is a sexual deviant.

Ed Buck you are a sexual predator.

Gemmel Moore's live matters!

Anything to make people listen.

And people started listening.

- When deputies got there, it appeared that he was,

had died of an overdose.

The coroner's office additionally stated

that it was deemed as an overdose.

So in an abundance of caution, Homicide Bureau

is doing a further investigation on it.

As far as suspects, as far as who is involved,

that part, I don't know.

So the only thing that's changed

is the attention that this case is getting

toward this further investigation?

- Yes.

- When Gemmel died, Timothy explained a lot up here

on the hill where we would hike about

his involvement through the years.

The temptation of all the money that he would offer

just to go and get high with him.

He was trying to distance himself from those situations.

- We had many conversations about it.

He felt like he could handle himself

and whatever crazy situation went down.

But the young man he felt was taken advantage of.

He said Walter, Ed Buck is the devil.

- He thought he was the devil.

- A monster.

- He's going to hell, Walter.

But to the police, nah, I said something.

He was never gonna do that.

We scared of the police.

We don't want to be, they might think

we're coming in for the wrong damn reason okay?

We're not going to the police.

- When do we want it? - Now!

- What do want? - Justice!

- When do we want it? - Now!

- We would love to see an investigation.

And once that investigation is concluded,

we would love to see justice brought.

- Ed Buck was in a lot of trouble.

He was being brought to the City Council

at West Hollywood and his behavior was being questioned.

And so Ed was calling Tim to vouch for him.

And I'm like, girl, you can't, you can't.

This is wrong what he's asking you.

- Ed Buck is a harmful threat to our community,

to black men and he needs to be brought to justice.

There's nothing stopping you with those allegations

for asking for a federal investigation.

If Jackie Lacey doesn't wanna deal with it and talk about,

go to a federal prosecutor.

They're right there, Hall of Justice,

you ain't got to take a far trip.

I'll pay your gas money.

Thank you.

- We have a lot of victims who have came forward.

We have more information,

but we need immunity for these people

because some of the charges by them testifying

they can be felonies.

I'm asking for justice for my son,

regardless to the fact of whatever he did or you know,

the meth or whatever, he still was my son,

he still was a person.

You know, that's all I'm asking for.

Thank you very much.

And thank you for coming tonight.

- I'm sorry.

I wasn't gonna speak on this tonight,

but I have to now add something

being a criminal defense lawyer.

Before anybody speaks to the Sheriff's Department,

you need to be aware that the Sheriff's Department

does not grant immunity.

The West Hollywood City Council does not grant immunity.

The only agency that grants immunity

to a witness is the district attorney's office.

- The former Mayor John Duran was Ed Buck's personal lawyer

and he used the City Council chambers,

the seat that we pay for to basically threaten witnesses,

tell them be careful, don't go and telling

the police nothing 'cause you can go to jail.

- Our Homicide Bureau is investigating this case thoroughly,

but however, they can't move forward

without witnesses coming forward

and giving them information.

Before you do anything, transparency

doesn't always work with the criminal justice system.

Transparency can subject you to criminal arrest

and prosecution.

Ed Buck's attorney tells NBC 4 tonight,

"The public has got to stop buying into this

and demand evidence.

If you've got something, bring it forward."

- I've been to these,

you know drug houses, flop houses, what trap houses,

looking for victims of Ed Buck

and so many of them are out there.

You have no idea how many boys are scared of this man.

When Jasmyne first spoke with me

I told her that I could get the full story

and I can find other people.

I know that he's done this to other people.

Ed Buck has a lot of victims.

I cannot even tell you how many people we've talked to

about their interactions with Ed Buck.

- Just photos, video, people taking pictures

of all his stuff.

I mean, it's all there to see.

So you can't send me an Uber?

No, actually.

I was thinking you spend two hours to get here.

You said, "Do another point."

You didn't say that?

No?

You didn't say that?

You made the point so you didn't say that?

No.

Honestly, be honest with me please.

You didn't say, let's do another point?

No.

Yeah, you wanna see it?

- I've had to do so much.

I had to make a fake profile on one of the dating websites

so I can track him.

I mean, these are the things you go through, right,

you know when you're really, you know, I.

You know, I feel like I need to be on the payroll

at the Sheriff's Department.

- I liked N words.

I like party and play.

Party and play it's a term to use drugs.

No other, we're not going to party and play on the swings.

No, party and play is a term, underground term for drug.

And we reported some of his pages.

Those pages are still up and standing to this day.

We are waiting for the Sheriff's Department

to build a case that the DA's office can move forward on.

So we're in this holding pattern.

- Ed buck was weird as hell, to tell you the truth.

Well, first of all, he's used to be so high

and stoned out that he was just throwing money.

He was throwing money left and right.

He was like, here, get this or do this.

And it was easy money at the time.

It was like, okay, do I need any pocket money

to rent a car or whatever I needed to do at the time.

And it was just me running an errand for him.

Like, go get this or pick up some and that was that,

you know.

- When I first met him, I didn't get high.

I wasn't dibbling and dabbling in that drug at that time.

But then the second time I came back,

is when the first time I got high off of meth.

The day I went there, it was like a couple of days

after my birthday.

I was broke, completely broke, sad and depressed.

So he hit me up like randomly and it was like right on time.

So I said I'll come over.

And he was like, yeah, are you gonna get high this time?

And I said, yeah, of course I'm gonna get high this time.

Like it's whatever you want.

Like, I'll do whatever you need me to do right now

because I need this money.

I went there on a mission so I knew

what I was doing before I got into it.

I thought I did.

The first time I walked into the apartment

I thought I was walking into a maze.

Long dark hallway, neon lights.

As soon as you close the door right behind the door,

it's like flames on the side, popping up right at you.

It's like 3D or something.

There's a big TV, probably about 10 foot in height

and mirrors shadowing over you.

And they're like all over the wall.

There were three or four crates that he had

with like different types of jock straps, underwear, thongs.

Piles and piles of underwear.

I mean, like 200-300 pairs of underwear.

And it was also a fog machine.

There was a red toolbox

that he kept his drug paraphernalia.

He had Viagra, Cialis, needles, meth, coke...

Whips, dildos, they had

all kinds of weird shit in it.

And he kept it in a closet.

And the closet, you didn't know it was there.

It was a hidden behind a curtain.

The curtain that would look like flames.

I guess he kind of went to remind you of hell.

- He looks like the devil.

Like he starts to look like evil

once you look at him for so long.

He asked, did I want to do some F now?

And I'm like, yeah, I'll do it.

He blew it in my mouth, he just kept on blowing

and blowing and blowing.

He wanted me to get higher and higher.

I was high and I wasn't trying to let it get to me,

but it was kinda getting to me.

He asked me that I want to shot like in my penis

to get my dick, for my dick to stay hard

because I did so much cocaine and the meth

it's like, I guess it's not interacting right

or reacting right on me, so he shot me.

He wanted me to come in the room

and I wasn't trying to come in the room and do my drugs.

And he was mad at me because I wasn't trying

to do what he wanted me to do, I guess.

He kicked me out, I left.

And I come back home, the next morning I wake up,

my dick is hard as rock.

Had to get surgery.

They had to scrape the blood because it was dry.

One of the worst feeling in my life, worst pain in my life.

After me going to the hospital,

I haven't seen him ever again.

- There are many Ed Bucks.

There are many.

It's just that his name happened to be attached,

to being a Democratic donor.

- Political donor- - High profile

political donor. - The prominent

political donor. - Well-known

political activist. - Ed Buick,

Buck excuse me, a high profile Democratic donor.

- It was always about this thing about Ed Buck,

the big Democratic donor.

You know, that queen lived in a rent controlled apartment

in West, how rich could she be?

- He is supposedly a millionaire who donates thousands

of dollars to the Democratic Party and certain candidates.

And yet he lives in a very modest apartment unit

right here in West Hollywood.

No fancy car, no exotic vacations,

just a A list of political contacts, if you will.

- We did a deep dive into those records,

found out a lot of information.

Buck has definitely spread the wealth.

He has given more than half a million dollars

to various candidates.

Notable Democrats like Congress member Ted Lieu.

- The maximum contribution that a donor gives

in West Hollywood is $500 an election.

I mean, seriously for $500 this is not something

that I'm going to get involved in

for a $500 contribution once every four years.

That's the facts.

John Duran received $12,500 from buck

in various campaigns without offering specifics.

Duran said most of the money was spent

and some was donated to charity.

- To me,

that's is all bullshit anyway.

I'm sorry, oh, I'll give you the money back.

What's your opinion about it?

- And full disclosure I have not received contributions

from that individual, but I wanna state clearly

that it shouldn't matter who the subject

of an investigation is.

An investigation must be conducted thoroughly

and without prejudice.

- Having a statement to say about it,

the actual thing that you're giving the money back for,

taking a stand on that and what you think should happen.

- For $2,000 really?

- Not for a thousand dollars.

No.

I think the system protected Ed Buck.

It gives him more chances than other people.

- We did not ask for a million dollars.

We didn't ask for them to go flip

West Hollywood upside down.

We asked for an investigation.

The District Attorney Jackie Lacey

is offering immunity to potential victims

of Democratic mega donor Ed Buck.

Very grateful that these young men

have started coming forward.

And so right now in Los Angeles they're currently

in the middle of this homicide investigation

and we're gonna see what comes out of it.

- The DA just ruled no charges will be filed.

CBS 2's Tom Wade is live in West Hollywood tonight

with more of the story.

Tom. - And Jeff,

the family of this young man says he did not get

a fair shake because he was both black and gay.

But the DA's office and the Sheriff's Department say

there was a thorough investigation.

- For her to do that it was like a slap in the face.

- A few people came forward and said, Hey,

this happened to me back in 2013.

And when you get a witness like that, that's helpful

If you can corroborate their credibility.

- You took one or two statements out of the 30.

And the ones that they took a statement from

these were people that were also

had more extensive criminal records.

- Imma be the first to tell you, I'm never gonna get tired.

You're gonna get tired of fighting me

until Ed Buck is brought to justice.

I'm gonna show up at every campaign,

I'm gonna show up at every rally.

I'm gonna show up at every sheriff department.

I'm gonna make sure that everything you do is tampered with

just like this investigation was tampered with

because I am Gemmel.

So while you're waiting, I'm waiting until

it's time for you to be reelected.

♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪

♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪

♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪

♪ So police arrest him ♪

♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪

♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪

♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪

♪ For 25 to life ♪

- Yeah!

- For five years, two weeks before Christmas,

we would go get his Christmas tree.

We would go to the lot.

He knew exactly which tree because he had already chosen it.

It had to be perfect.

And then off to go get Thai food.

- We had just went to Alex's on Christmas.

We had a great time.

And then as is customary with both of us,

we started planning for the new year.

You have your aspirations.

What's gonna be different?

- I believe that even with Timothy

surrounded by all these people that loved him so much

that I think truly what he wanted

was to be in relationship.

- He always wanted a boyfriend, but as soon as he got one,

they would drive him crazy.

And he was like,.

- Like, why did y'all break up so fast?

What happened?

But finally he started getting a little bit more, you know,

like I got this now.

Don't worry about what I don't got,

worry about what I do have.

And what he had was himself.

Lets give a round of cheers for our graduates!

- He finally graduated which he was so proud of.

When he finally sent me the thing,

"Girl, I'm graduating.

You got to come to my graduation."

You know, of course I'm gonna be there.

Timothy Dean, liberal arts,

social and behavioral science.

We were way in the stands and you could just see the joy.

- He got to baptized, that empowered him.

He was like, girl, I'm gonna get baptized.

I was like, right on.

Why not?

You know, okay.

He got a break and he got hired at Bloomingdale's.

He excelled right away.

Someone from Saks Fifth Avenue came up to him

and basically kinda poached him.

He was really excited 'cause he was back in Beverly Hills.

For him he was putting all the pieces together.

He had been at a sports bar all day

drinking beers where we're watching the Golden Globes.

- Welcome to the 2019 Golden Global Awards.

- He had strong opinions about fashion

and oh girl, what are you wearing?

And oh no, she didn't.

Then it was just planning, okay, I'll see you,

I'll pick you up and we'll go to the Runyon in the morning.

- The same night, he used to give me songs and stuff.

I was like I'm jamming with my Apple Music.

Boom.

Occasionally he would like to go down to the bar

to play pool there over here on Santa Monica.

Ed Buck lives on the way.

- If you spend the whole day drinking,

your defenses are down.

Starting with the morning, getting up,

driving over to the house, him not responding

when I said I'm here.

The lights on, the windows open and I'm thinking,

oh, maybe he just went to go have a little,

a little rendezvous with someone, you know?

But by the time I got back home,

the news was coming in.

For the second time in less than two years,

a black man was found dead at the home of Ed Buck.

According to the Los Angeles County

Sheriff's office deputies respond

to the apartment just after 1 a.m.

Paramedics conducted CPR on the victim,

but he died at the scene.

His name was not released.

Buck was home at the time.

- There was the body that they brought out the door.

And so I took a screenshot of it

'cause I was sending it to Tim.

- I'm texting him and sending him the articles

and going it's happened again.

It's happened again.

- Hey, hey, you working today?

Give me a call.

The next day I called again in the morning.

I was like, I'm not worried.

What the hell?

And he would've called me about that.

And then Alex called me and he asked me,

if I had heard from detective.

I go for what?

In connection to Ed Buck.

I had recorded the CNN episode.

I pushed back and rewind on it

And I looked at the body bag and I just said, that's it.

That's him.

It didn't make sense to me then, that's him.

West Hollywood resident Timothy Dean,

according to we WEHOville, he was the man found dead

early Monday morning at the apartment

of Democratic donor Ed Buck.

- That was his body at the place he told me

that he would never, he's not gonna go.

Tim had never not been a man of his word to me.

- As close as we were, it boggles my mind

why he wouldn't talk to me about it.

Like we talked, I mean, he spent Christmas with my family.

- Alex was in town.

We met at Walter's house.

A, to be together and B, how are we going

to address this in the media

because it's gonna be a media storm.

- Even in the press, the small press them vilifying again,

first with Gemmel, the first boy, and then Tim.

- This is not a situation where Mr. Buck

has caused the death.

This is a situation where Mr. Buck

has had long time friends who unfortunately

do not handle their life well.

- There's an epidemic in media.

When it comes to black men there becomes

irresponsible journalism to give the public

a reason of why this person didn't deserve

to live and what they did.

They deserve the result.

- I didn't know Tim's porn name.

Did I know he did porn?

Yeah, I knew he did porn.

- Walter and I knew what he did.

When we found out that he was working in the sex industry,

he wanted to keep that separate from, to us.

- Rent is expensive.

You fall off for a month or two,

and your ass be downtown on the street, okay?

- The escorting, the porn, all that sex work

that isn't about him being a bad person or a dark person.

It's survival.

- His adopted mother, she was in a nursing home

and he had to pay for the nursing home.

- His family, after I explained it to them,

they were really good about it.

He was like the only thing that matters

is taking care of my brother.

Earlier, confirmation

at NBC 4 from his sister in Tampa,

waiting for her brother to visit next month.

He loved to come home and eat.

He just loved his family and he really loved his friends.

- Tim was loved by his family, his friends,

everybody that he came into contact with.

Mark Chambers says Timothy Dean,

his friend of almost 30 years was educated,

athletic and had an eye for fashion.

- Tim had his own apartment.

He had his own job.

He was gainfully employed.

He didn't need pennies from this man to be who he was.

And that was the narrative I was trying to make sure

people saw and heard.

- Tim's gone.

That's a fact.

How it happened is to be known.

But I just want everybody to know he was a whole person.

- After Tim passed, the voice became louder

to get justice for Gemmel.

Arriving on that street was a lot.

It was a lot.

It had never really been that chaotic

Arrest him now!

Arrest him now!

Arrest him now!

Arrest him now!

Arrest him now!

Arrest him now!

- I think from the time I got from the corner

to Ed Buck's house I had got stopped

at least 10 times by reporters.

Black boys are dying here.

This man is a problem not to our black community

but to every community.

It clicked on the center of reality

to what Gemmel's family was dealing with

and what now this new family was about to deal with

and who is this new family?

- We should not even be here.

There shouldn't even be another,

a second victim.

My son did not OD.

He was murdered.

- I met Gemmel's mom.

I met the main people from Gemmel's group.

There's a tie that binds us together.

It's like, that pain is everybody's.

Everybody can relate to that.

- Ed Buck gets to stay in his house

when he's killed two people and probably

will kill more people in the future.

If you could repeat after me

and say Gemmel's name Moore.

Gemmel Moore.

Gemmel Moore!

Gemmel Moore!

- I always thought Gemmel was destined for greatness.

And I always knew Gemmel would be known worldwide,

but then it broke my heart 'cause I know

that he would be so mad at us right now.

He would not want all his business all over the world

like this.

This man is a danger to our community.

- Yes he is. - We are not even talking

about the half of what he's doing.

I felt like I betrayed my friend 'cause now

his business is really out there.

And then I realized like, this is what we been fighting for.

And now we're gonna get where we need to get.

And I just came at peace with that.

We're gonna be out here every night.

Every night.

Every night.

Why hasn't Ed BucK Been arrested

yet? - What do we want?

Justice!

- What do we want? - Justice!

- - What do we want? - Justice!

- There is not gonna be any more peace in West Hollywood

until Ed Buck is arrested.

For nearly a month,

Jerome Kitchen and others in the LGBTQ

and black community have waited for answers.

- What do we want? - Justice!

- Jerome had his role.

I mean, he's a loud voice and he knows how

to make his voice be heard.

- The mayor is in the pocket of the perp.

We're gonna turn a blind eye to it

all because the mayor is a perp himself.

John Duran and an alleged sexual assaultee

failed his city with the Ed Buck situation.

And now there's two deaths.

Your first order of business after your election

should be to get John Duran out that goddamn seat.

- Okay?

From the big perp, thank you very much.

He willing to put himself in harm's way.

He was spit on, you know, and called a monkey.

Him and Jasmyne went and they brought it to the forefront.

Arrest Ed Buck!

Activists delivered 30,000 signatures

to Lacey's office to call for Buck's prosecution.

- Nobody's coming inside of the building.

Lacey refuse to meet with this group,

refused to even let them into the building

as they tried to present her with boxes of petitions.

- I have live with this for the rest of my life.

- Everybody got a staff to carry.

Jasmyne's carried it.

- Now we have the whole country's attention,

but we're going to have a third one and a fourth one

if we don't stop this man.

- Seeing people who didn't even know Tim

or Gemmel take the time to do that

and to go out there meant so much I don't,

I mean, I could never pay them for that.

Lacey tells me she hears their frustration,

but it all comes down to this.

- We can't file a criminal case

based on who has the loudest voice.

If go out there and arrest him now,

the clock starts ticking and it wouldn't be ethical

right now to arrest him until we really had the evidence.

Well, we now know what killed

a man inside Ed Buck's apartment.

Officials say Timothy Dean died

from a methamphetamine overdose

and it was ruled accidental.

- It shocked me that he had an objection

'cause I know for a fact that Tim didn't even like

to draw blood so.

- Doctors, the vampires, he would call them,

he had an aversion to needles,

completely freaked out about.

This is Timothy.

You know, he's just like, okay, do it.

He couldn't look at it because he would get sick or faint.

- I don't know a person can determine whether

or not someone injected them.

I don't know.

The reason why I believe people know in this case

is because there are multiple stories

of young men saying he had to inject you

'cause that's how he got off,

you know, the sexual fetish of it.

It was very specific.

According to the report Buck says Dean

was acting bizarrely, using clothing to tie a noose

around his own neck.

Buck says he removed the noose prior

to leaving the room to take a shower.

He found Dean unresponsive when he got out

and attempted CPR for 15 minutes before calling 911.

- I didn't wanna read it after that.

I was like...

I didn't need to know how awful it was.

It's awful.

- David, what's new in the investigation.

What have we learned tonight?

- Well, Jeff, the case against Ed Buck

is now in the hands of the LA county

district attorney's office.

Buck Hasn't been charged with any crimes

and he hasn't been asked the tough questions until now.

While Buck stays mostly in his apartment

on this day, our surveillance cameras

caught him with this black man,

probably in his 20s who was eating an ice cream.

They went inside for about an hour,

then left to go to the Beverly Center

where we tried to talk with him.

Mr. Buck, I'm David Goldstein

with CBS 2 news.

Sir, what's going on in your apartment, sir?

Can you tell us that?

Do you think your political influence is keeping

you a free man now, sir

Is this is this young man who's with you now,

is he in any harm?

- I don't feel like he had any fear of being stopped

'cause he never stopped.

- Can you answer the question, sir?

Is it a coincidence that two men have died

in your apartment?

Why are you walking backwards, sir?

- You are, should be ashamed of yourself.

- Why should I be ashamed of myself, sir?

I'm not touching you at all.

- Ed Buck didn't give a shit.

He didn't care about Tim.

He didn't care about Gemmel.

There were, it didn't even, he didn't have any remorse.

He didn't give a shit.

The man he was with stood off to the side,

not wanting to be on TV.

- You know, you know who he is, right.

That's okay.

That's all I wanna know.

Why don't you answer any questions?

You have two people who died in your house.

Because you're being a.

- Sir, I'm asking questions.

Today, family and friends of Gemmel Moore

gathered in front of Buck's apartment

to mark the two-year anniversary of Moore's death.

- Me, Jasmyne, the lawyers with some of Gemmel friends,

we all prayed and I led the prayer.

And three things that I finished with is that

we were going to get justice through Ed Buck's pockets.

We were gonna get justice through

our criminal justice system, he was gonna be arrested

and that we were gonna get justice

through our elected officials 'cause people

are gonna be held accountable.

And I said that I call it done and it's gonna

start happening right away.

- There was a sting going on by federal agents

in West Hollywood, a federal drug sting.

One of officers on that federal team

heard about Ed Buck's situation

and that two people had died.

Another one had escaped, with no arrest.

- I know John Doe number three.

He overdosed twice.

Not once, twice.

He overdosed, the hospital discharged him.

He went back to Ed Buck house.

Ed Buck overdosed him again.

Just think about that's how bad of a situation he was in.

- He went to the Sheriff's Department.

Say, hey man, this is going on.

They blew it off.

The federal agent made it a point that they went back

after that third guy went into the house.

Now there's just drugs here.

Those are yours.

Breaking news on CBS 2 News

at 11.

Perp walked out of his apartment.

Former democratic donor Ed Buck is in handcuffs.

- Yeah. - Ed buck arrested

after a third man was allegedly overdosed

in his West Hollywood home.

- I saw on the news of him.

He's sitting in the back of a police car.

That was a victory for me.

Until that point he had never been questioned.

It's like they fucking brought him flowers

and cookies and candy every time he killed someone.

- Tonight those who stood up for the victim say

they feel vindicated.

- And I'm just so ecstatic that finally

there is the beginning of justice in this case.

You know, he's just been arrested.

He's got to go through the process,

but this was a long time coming.

- I kind of gave up on the criminal justice side of it.

So when I heard that it was happening,

I got, I almost passed out.

- I am happy.

I knew that this day was gonna come.

I'm just so grateful that my team did not give up.

- We have reached out to Buck's attorneys so far,

no word from them tonight.

We can tell you that Buck is due in court tomorrow.

His bail set at $4 million.

- Good afternoon, everyone.

My name is Nick Hanna.

I'm the United States attorney here in Los Angeles.

Today I am announcing a federal case

against Mr. Buck, charges that carry a mandatory

minimum sentence of 20 years in federal prison

and a maximum of life in prison without parole.

Mr. Buck is now in federal custody

and he's making his first appearance

in federal court this afternoon.

That day, just being in that courtroom,

it felt like we had came full circle.

Mr. Buck do you understand?

65 Year old Ed Buck stood before the courtroom

in what's called an anti-suicide smock.

- Ed Buck walked in there and right away

I started feeling hot, emotional.

I felt sorry for him too.

He looked fragile.

He looks scared.

He looked unsure and I felt bad for him.

But right as I feel bad for him,

I wondered how many young people all right,

people felt like that in his house.

We weren't there for Gemmel.

We weren't there for Timothy.

We were there for John Doe victim number three,

and we just wanted victim number three,

to know like you have this community,

you have a support system.

I'm glad, you know, for the first time

in awhile that I've seen that justice

is being served properly.

- I hope that he's getting the care that he needs.

I hope that he's getting the therapy that he needs.

- Activist Jasmyne Cannick and others

are assisting Mr. Doe.

They've gotten him a room and gotten him off the street

and say, they're helping him so he can testify against Buck.

- DA Lacey charged Ed Buck for the victim number three,

but she didn't help victim number three

with no housing, no substance abuse or nothing.

No, they let him get out there on the street

in hopes that he can come back and testify for a trial.

- Thank you everyone for coming and good afternoon.

With regard to what the evidence is

for the US attorney that may have been different

from what we had.

We did not have other victims who were willing to talk

to the prosecutors and tell us what happened

or tell us that they were injected by Mr. Buck.

- They weren't gonna do anything.

You see, they were going to snatch it from them,

make it a federal case, which would have put

would have tainted Lacey and her career

and tainted the Sheriff's Department.

- The Sheriff's Department

they saw that Mr. Moore was dead and,

but they investigated it sort of like an overdose.

And we, you know, they found some things,

but we contend that it's illegal how they searched for it.

They needed a warrant in order to get that stuff.

So that was the first thing.

Evidence found at the scene of drug use

in state court could never come in.

- It took district attorney Jackie Lacey,

feeling like the Sheriff Department kept throwing her under

the bus with the case to say, no,

actually we didn't arrest Ed Buck

because the sheriff took a chest out

of his house without a warrant

and the case got thrown out of court.

But just imagine if she would have had that compassion

to tell Gemmel's mom that on day one.

Maybe it would've made a little sense.

Good evening, everyone.

City Clerk, may we have a roll call please?

Yes.

Council member Duran is absent this evening.

- John Duran,

apparently he did not wanna be here to see Gemmel's mother.

He was too cowardly to show up tonight.

- This is not a easy journey.

I'm a very private person.

It's not easy at all, but we came forward to save others.

- Jasmyne Cannick deserves a lot of the recognition

for her tireless commitment to shedding light

on these tragedies and to Jerome Kitchens

who has challenged us to keep our eyes on the ball.

And our eyes never left the ball.

- A lot of elected officials

feel the heat up under them.

John's Durant's on the ballot.

Jackie Lacey's on the ballot.

Kevin De Lyon is on a ballot.

So people realize that one, we were about serious business

and two, now my community and other black and brown lives

realize that we gonna fight for you.

- The two years spent investigating Ed Buck

was time well spent and I hope you'll agree.

- It took me a long time to clean up his room

and in doing so I found a letter that he wrote me.

And it reads, "I don't know where to start,

but I'm so emotional.

Leaving you, I had not seen my family in four years.

You have been my family this whole time.

I really and honestly don't want to leave.

I'm scared.

I honestly am truly sorry for everything I hurt you with.

Can we forget the past?

I don't know everything.

I'm human and I'm trying hard to be honest.

You give me a reason to want to be here.

I don't know what to do with my life.

It's horrible and well I appreciate everything

you've done for me.

And if I never see you again,

just remember your nephew loves you.

Please don't talk shit about my grammar skills

and punctual skills.

LOL."

And I never saw him again.

Never did.

- My process with the grief with Tim

it's like, that's my resistance to coming back up here

because I was so overwhelmed with feelings.

I missed my friend.

- You know, we all got to go at some point.

He took his trip a little bit earlier than ours, you know,

and we mourn his death.

I choose to look at it you know,

things that happen in my life and death,

that's just another angel that I got to call on

when I can't handle shit on earth.

And he actually will help.

- I had emergency heart surgeon pretty much.

You guys can hear this taking, right?

So that's the costs of smoking, you know doing drugs.

And it caused me to have a mechanical heart valve,

which is what's keeping me alive today.

You never know what kinda horror film you're in

until you're in it 'cause the drugs

would take you under and take you to some dark places

that it's hard to get out of.

And I'm still having a hard time dealing with it.

- I'm managing.

My penis is fine, but I'm managing.

It's just, it's depressing.

Like it's a whole lot.

It caused trauma.

- This crystal meth epidemic when it comes to my people,

we need more counselors that look like us.

That's why it was important for me to, you know,

to get licensed and certified you know and you know,

strategic life coach and spiritual development,

those things, that's why it was important

because it's healing and it's not allowing

an opportunity for it to come back into my life.

- Whether it's a gay man or a trans woman or a woman,

that's a sex worker is really men in power

who are allowed to do these types of things

and get away with it.

There are so many men out there like that

that are not behind bars.

Clients specifically go out

looking for black, young kids who they can put a spell on.

I have another Ed Buck, Number Two I call him,

I actually call him Ed Buck's twin.

He'll still text me, sending me pictures of money.

He's trying to lure me in any way he can.

And it's like, what do I do?

I have two choices to make.

Do I wanna be healthy or do I wanna pay my rent?

- Gemmel Moore.

Gemmel Moore, I say.

- Timothy Dean. - Timothy Dean, I say.

- Our criminal justice system, it's there.

It is there and the resources are there.

The help is there.

It's all there.

They just need to be enforced.

We are live at the federal courthouse

in the federal trial against Ed Buck.

He has now been found guilty of all nine federal charges.

We made it happen.

- I thank Jasmyne for keeping her foot on the pedal

and making that noise.

But Tim was, he was so close.

I have to protect myself.

I had to disassociate myself with it.

We all have the battles we wage and we fight

and mine is for LGBT basketball.

Friends and family of the victims,

cheering, crying, hugging, celebrating within minutes

of the verdict.

- My son is more than a movie or documentary.

This is my baby, my son, who is a human being

and he's loved by lots of people.

But, today is bittersweet.

Today is the day that my son was murdered

when he left my house four years ago.

But we got victory today.

We got victory in the west today.

- This has been an undesirable fight,

but it's totally been worth it.

And I often tell people that we are fighting this fight

because it's worth it and because it's important,

not for our own self because if that's the case,

we wouldn't do it.

I call Gemmel a prophet now and a prophet

is somebody that comes to earth

to awaken us to certain things.

- I don't know what justice means for me.

I really don't because what I want I can't have.