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{\an8}- In the criminal justice
system,
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{\an8}the people are represented
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{\an8}by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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{\an8}the police,
who investigate crime,
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{\an8}and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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{\an8}These are their stories.
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- Jackson, come on in.
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We need to talk.
- What's up, man?
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- You make 8 million a year,
man, and you broke.
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- [scoffs]
Man, get out of here.
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- You could believe me today,
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or you can believe the bank
when they come
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and take the keys
to your house.
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You got to make changes, bro.
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And, oh, by the way,
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I'm keeping my 5%.
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You ain't getting that back.
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- What's the problem?
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- You really just
asked me that?
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Turn around.
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What does Jimmy do?
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How about Tommy?
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How about Marco?
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- I don't know, man.
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They just part of it.
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- How many people do you think
you have on your payroll?
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- Six.
- [chuckles]
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11.
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But it's time to be real.
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You ain't LeBron.
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You ain't KD.
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You damn sure ain't Ant-Man.
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You a grinder,
a rotation player.
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You damn sure
ain't large enough
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to be having some entourage.
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You got a big damn heart,
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but you just turned 30.
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If you're lucky, you got three,
maybe four years left.
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- So you're saying you want me
to fire some of my boys?
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Come on, Ted.
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No.
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That ain't cool.
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- Want to hear about cool?
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I don't care about cool.
I care about you.
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I care about your family,
your kids, your future.
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That's what I'm thinking about.
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So guess what.
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Your agent ain't asking you
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to get rid of
some of your boys.
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I'm asking you
to get rid of all of them.
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Every living one of them.
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- That's not so easy.
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I grew up with them.
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When all of this
was just a fantasy.
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[tense music]
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I owe them.
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I owe them.
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- You want me to do it for you?
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♪ ♪
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- Our victim is wearing sweats,
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high-end running shoes,
headphones on.
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Looks like he was on
some sort of jog or walk.
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- Who called this in?
- Two joggers.
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Victim was deceased
by the time they found him.
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No pulse.
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They didn't see
anybody else around.
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I mean,
it was the crack of dawn,
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so it was pretty empty up here.
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- Got a weapon in evidence?
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- We're looking,
but so far, no dice.
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It was some kind of knife.
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Two stabs to the chest.
Deep.
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He also got a cut on his lip.
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Healed up, though.
Doesn't feel related.
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- Still got his
Montblanc smartwatch,
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his cell phone, AirPods.
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Not a robbery.
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- And they found
a $20 bill in his pocket
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with his ID.
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♪ ♪
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- Theodore Hunter.
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69th Street, Upper West Side.
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Guy turned 52 on Tuesday.
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♪ ♪
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- Hope he made the most of it.
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- What do you got?
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- We found a knife
in a garbage can
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a few blocks away
from the crime scene
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covered in blood.
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Four-inch tactical blade,
folding, serrated,
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manufactured by Iron Forge.
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Right now the lab's trying
to confirm the DNA.
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- But we have a murder weapon?
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- Looks like it.
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- And ARGUS caught
the murder on video.
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- Any luck on facial rec?
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- Nope. Never saw his face.
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But check this out.
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OK, so you see people
running through.
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And then here is our vic.
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- Think it was
a targeted attack?
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Any theories?
Who was this guy?
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- Well, back in the day,
Ted Hunter was
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kind of a big deal All-American
football player up at Syracuse.
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He basically had
a cup of coffee in the pros,
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then became a sports agent.
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He worked for ACG.
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They're one of the big three.
He was with them for years.
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- Very successful,
very controversial too.
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Had a lot of critics and was
known for playing hardball
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during contract negotiations.
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- And poaching clients.
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Last year,
he breaks off on his own,
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starts his own firm,
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says that the system is
bloated and corrupt.
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- Any family?
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- Two sons.
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Raised them on his own
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after his wife died
in a car accident.
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- OK, well, talk to the boys,
see if they have any idea
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who might want to hurt
their father.
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{\an8}- One hell of a family legacy.
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{\an8}- Yeah.
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{\an8}Looks like you're up next,
huh, Josh?
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{\an8}- Long as my knee holds up.
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{\an8}- MCL?
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{\an8}- Sprained it.
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{\an8}- Let me ask you, is anybody
coming to assist you guys?
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{\an8}Aunt? Uncle?
- No.
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{\an8}No, as a matter of fact,
I'm gonna take some time off
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{\an8}from school to come down here,
stay with Josh.
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{\an8}Our father raised us to be men,
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{\an8}so we can take care
of ourselves.
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{\an8}- Well, look, guys,
we need your help.
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{\an8}We need any information
you can give us
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{\an8}about the last couple days
of your dad's life.
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{\an8}Eric, you were up at Syracuse
when you got the news?
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{\an8}- Yes, sir.
I was out on the practice field
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{\an8}when they came and got me.
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{\an8}- And Josh, you were here?
- Yeah.
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{\an8}I usually run with our dad
every morning in the park.
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{\an8}Last few weeks,
obviously, I couldn't go.
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{\an8}I was sleeping in this morning.
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{\an8}And I woke up to cops
banging on the door.
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{\an8}If I was there,
I could have done something.
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{\an8}- Don't do that
to yourself, bro.
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{\an8}- Listen to your brother.
It's good advice.
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{\an8}We have reason to believe that
this was a targeted attack.
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{\an8}- Targeted?
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{\an8}- Just that this wasn't
a random occurrence.
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{\an8}We need your help.
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{\an8}Can you guys think
of any reason
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{\an8}anybody wanted to hurt
your father?
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{\an8}- No idea.
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{\an8}- Anything noteworthy recently
or out of character?
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{\an8}Did he indicate that he might
have been arguing with someone?
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{\an8}Or maybe someone
threatened him?
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{\an8}- No, I talked to our father
every single day.
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{\an8}- Um, there was one thing.
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{\an8}He came home late
one night this week,
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{\an8}and it looked like
he had been in a fight.
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{\an8}- Like a physical altercation?
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{\an8}- Yeah, I guess.
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{\an8}His shirt was all messed up
and torn.
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{\an8}[tense music]
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{\an8}- What about his lip?
- Yeah.
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{\an8}He had a--he had a big cut
on his bottom lip.
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{\an8}- He tell you
how this happened?
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{\an8}- I mean, he just
kind of played it off.
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{\an8}Said it wasn't
that big of a deal.
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{\an8}It kind of looked
like a big deal.
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{\an8}- What night was this?
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{\an8}♪ ♪
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{\an8}- This man, Ted Hunter.
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{\an8}He was dropped off here
by an Uber
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{\an8}at 11:13 p.m. on Monday.
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{\an8}- And?
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{\an8}- And this morning,
he got murdered.
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{\an8}- Sorry to hear that.
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{\an8}- He got into an altercation
at this nightclub,
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{\an8}and we need to know who
he was fighting with and why.
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{\an8}- Can't help you, fellas.
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{\an8}- You can't or you won't?
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{\an8}- The minute I start talking
to the cops is the minute
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{\an8}the crowds stop showing up.
- Mm.
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{\an8}- Don't know if that's
can't or won't,
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{\an8}but it's one of them.
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{\an8}- All right, well, just got
a few more images to show you,
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{\an8}and then we'll get
out of your hair.
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{\an8}Like this one.
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{\an8}Budget Ballin'.
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{\an8}For 30 bucks, your patrons
get all the liquor
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{\an8}they can handle for an hour.
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{\an8}- That's a great deal.
Show him the other one.
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{\an8}- Oh, yeah--
oh, this one I would have loved
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{\an8}back in the day.
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{\an8}Liquid Courage,
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{\an8}a raffle for unlimited shots.
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{\an8}- Even better deal.
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{\an8}Problem is, you can't do that.
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{\an8}Any club promotion that
encourages risky drinking,
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{\an8}$800 fine.
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{\an8}- Let me grab my wallet.
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{\an8}I'll pay you in cash.
With a tip.
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{\an8}- You misunderstood
what I was saying.
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{\an8}It's an $800 fine per offense.
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{\an8}That means every drink
that you served to every patron
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{\an8}every night you had
a promotion like that.
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{\an8}- Yeah, so we could just
pull your CCTV
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{\an8}and start counting them all up.
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{\an8}- It'll take a while.
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{\an8}- Come on, man.
That's not right.
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{\an8}- It's the law.
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{\an8}Or you could just tell us.
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{\an8}Who was Ted Hunter having
an altercation with?
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{\an8}OK, thank you.
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{\an8}The blood on the knife
is a DNA match to Hunter.
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{\an8}So it's definitely
our murder weapon.
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{\an8}- Any other fingerprints on it?
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{\an8}- Unfortunately, no.
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{\an8}[indistinct chatter]
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{\an8}There he is.
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{\an8}- Jackson Dean?
- OK.
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{\an8}- NYPD.
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{\an8}We need to talk to you
about Ted Hunter.
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{\an8}- It hurts, man.
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{\an8}He was a damn good agent.
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{\an8}Damn good dude too.
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{\an8}Really cared about his clients.
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{\an8}- How about everybody
in your crew?
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{\an8}They like him too?
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{\an8}- Yeah, we heard
one of your buddies
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{\an8}got into a fight with him
a couple nights ago
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{\an8}at Vortex 21.
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{\an8}Is that right?
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{\an8}- I got to get back out there.
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{\an8}- No, you didn't answer
my question.
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{\an8}- I wasn't at the club
that night.
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{\an8}- Yeah, we know.
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{\an8}But your crew, they were.
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{\an8}- Yeah, we got
the physical description
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{\an8}of a guy who tangled
with Hunter that night.
247
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{\an8}5'9", Black, cornrows.
248
00:09:21,916 --> 00:09:22,983
{\an8}Ring a bell?
249
00:09:24,185 --> 00:09:26,420
{\an8}- There is zero chance
anyone in my circle
250
00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,421
{\an8}had anything to do with that.
251
00:09:28,422 --> 00:09:30,091
{\an8}So, fellas, have a nice day.
252
00:09:30,224 --> 00:09:32,459
{\an8}- No, no, no, no, that's not
how this works, Mr. Dean.
253
00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:33,994
{\an8}You see, we're investigating
a murder here.
254
00:09:34,095 --> 00:09:37,097
{\an8}- Which means boxing us out
is not an option.
255
00:09:37,098 --> 00:09:38,466
{\an8}[tense music]
256
00:09:38,566 --> 00:09:39,500
{\an8}Now, it'd be a real shame
257
00:09:39,633 --> 00:09:40,834
{\an8}if we had to have
this conversation
258
00:09:40,835 --> 00:09:42,770
{\an8}back at the precinct,
you know what I'm saying?
259
00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:45,473
{\an8}- Yeah, that'd mean
you'd miss tonight's game.
260
00:09:45,573 --> 00:09:52,780
{\an8}♪ ♪
261
00:09:53,748 --> 00:09:56,784
[indistinct radio chatter]
262
00:09:58,386 --> 00:10:00,421
There he is.
Right there.
263
00:10:03,524 --> 00:10:05,191
Tommy Caro.
264
00:10:05,192 --> 00:10:06,427
NYPD.
265
00:10:06,527 --> 00:10:09,263
[engine revving]
266
00:10:09,363 --> 00:10:10,397
Hey!
267
00:10:10,398 --> 00:10:13,734
[siren wailing]
268
00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:16,837
[suspenseful music]
269
00:10:16,937 --> 00:10:20,607
♪ ♪
270
00:10:20,608 --> 00:10:22,176
- Hey!
271
00:10:24,712 --> 00:10:26,679
- Whoa!
272
00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:27,948
[siren wailing]
273
00:10:28,082 --> 00:10:29,150
[tires squealing]
274
00:10:31,685 --> 00:10:32,919
- Hey, do not move!
275
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,121
Stay right where you are.
Get your hands up.
276
00:10:35,122 --> 00:10:36,357
Higher!
277
00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:38,024
He's got a gun.
278
00:10:38,025 --> 00:10:40,527
- You even look at that piece,
you're a dead man.
279
00:10:40,528 --> 00:10:41,828
Walk backwards to me.
280
00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:45,032
To my voice.
- OK.
281
00:10:45,132 --> 00:10:46,133
OK.
282
00:10:46,233 --> 00:10:53,240
♪ ♪
283
00:11:02,116 --> 00:11:03,250
- I would have run too.
284
00:11:04,285 --> 00:11:06,619
Criminal possession
of a firearm, pretty serious.
285
00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:07,922
Minimum three and a half years.
286
00:11:08,055 --> 00:11:09,489
- Well, that's what
they told me last time,
287
00:11:09,490 --> 00:11:11,024
but I'm still here.
- Oh, OK.
288
00:11:11,025 --> 00:11:12,393
Well, thanks
for the information.
289
00:11:12,493 --> 00:11:14,260
Maybe this time we'll push
for 10, given your history.
290
00:11:14,261 --> 00:11:16,196
- Come on, lady.
291
00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:19,432
- I heard Ted Hunter got
a few good licks in.
292
00:11:19,433 --> 00:11:20,935
Maybe even won the fight.
293
00:11:21,068 --> 00:11:22,469
I don't know.
That's pretty impressive.
294
00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:24,205
How old is he?
Like, 52?
295
00:11:24,305 --> 00:11:26,039
- Please.
- What?
296
00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,340
Thinking it might
sting a little.
297
00:11:27,341 --> 00:11:29,442
I mean, it's embarrassing.
- Whoa, whoa.
298
00:11:29,443 --> 00:11:31,512
We threw a few punches.
That's it.
299
00:11:31,612 --> 00:11:33,080
Ain't nobody got embarrassed.
300
00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:34,915
And I sure as hell
had nothing to do
301
00:11:35,015 --> 00:11:36,316
with that man getting killed.
302
00:11:36,317 --> 00:11:37,985
- OK.
303
00:11:38,119 --> 00:11:40,388
I will note that you denied it.
Fair is fair.
304
00:11:40,488 --> 00:11:41,889
- Well, I'm telling the truth.
305
00:11:47,728 --> 00:11:50,798
A few days ago,
Ted Hunter told Jackson
306
00:11:50,898 --> 00:11:52,565
he had to cut ties
with his crew.
307
00:11:52,566 --> 00:11:54,200
So we went down to the club,
308
00:11:54,201 --> 00:11:56,137
laid down Jackson's
credit card,
309
00:11:56,270 --> 00:11:59,572
and ordered up some magnums
of Don Julio 1942.
310
00:11:59,573 --> 00:12:01,809
A last hurrah kind of thing.
311
00:12:01,909 --> 00:12:04,545
But we didn't know
Ted was tracking
312
00:12:04,645 --> 00:12:07,247
Jackson's spending
in real time.
313
00:12:07,248 --> 00:12:11,384
Got an alert and came down
to the club to shut us down.
314
00:12:11,385 --> 00:12:12,820
- And that didn't go over well?
315
00:12:12,953 --> 00:12:14,854
- No.
And we got into it.
316
00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:16,790
Sorted things out, you know?
317
00:12:16,791 --> 00:12:20,061
But that was the end of it,
I swear.
318
00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:23,898
- Where were you this morning?
319
00:12:25,766 --> 00:12:27,501
- Hey.
320
00:12:27,601 --> 00:12:29,536
So Caro's alibi holds up.
321
00:12:29,537 --> 00:12:31,371
At the time of the murder,
he was losing his shirt
322
00:12:31,372 --> 00:12:34,674
at a casino 60 miles away
in the Hudson Valley.
323
00:12:34,675 --> 00:12:36,676
- OK.
- I got something here.
324
00:12:36,677 --> 00:12:38,311
So Ted Hunter,
a few months ago,
325
00:12:38,312 --> 00:12:39,947
took out a protective order
on his driver,
326
00:12:40,081 --> 00:12:41,248
a guy named Ethan Matthews.
327
00:12:41,382 --> 00:12:42,615
- For what?
328
00:12:42,616 --> 00:12:43,817
- Well, Matthews wouldn't
leave him alone.
329
00:12:43,818 --> 00:12:45,920
Kept showing up to his house,
to his office.
330
00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:48,888
Hunter says stop,
and Matthews threatened him.
331
00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:51,224
- Sounds like a lead to me.
332
00:12:51,225 --> 00:12:52,827
Nice work.
333
00:12:55,363 --> 00:12:58,099
{\an8}- Ethan Matthews?
334
00:12:58,199 --> 00:12:59,399
NYPD.
335
00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,667
- Oh, yeah.
336
00:13:00,668 --> 00:13:02,535
I know why you're here.
337
00:13:02,536 --> 00:13:03,837
- Oh, yeah?
338
00:13:03,838 --> 00:13:06,006
I suppose that you admit
to telling Ted Hunter
339
00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:07,541
that you wanted him dead, then?
340
00:13:07,641 --> 00:13:09,409
"You destroyed my life.
341
00:13:09,410 --> 00:13:11,444
I won't stop until
you feel the same pain."
342
00:13:11,445 --> 00:13:12,413
Sound familiar?
343
00:13:12,546 --> 00:13:14,914
- That's me.
344
00:13:14,915 --> 00:13:17,485
I don't even recognize
the man who sent that stuff.
345
00:13:20,521 --> 00:13:22,822
I didn't kill Ted Hunter.
346
00:13:22,823 --> 00:13:25,026
I owe the man my life.
347
00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:26,327
- Oh, really?
How's that?
348
00:13:26,427 --> 00:13:29,196
- I was his personal driver
for 13 years.
349
00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,598
Then he discovered
my little secret--
350
00:13:31,599 --> 00:13:32,732
heroin.
351
00:13:32,733 --> 00:13:34,067
So he fired me.
352
00:13:34,068 --> 00:13:36,937
I lashed out,
but I'd never hurt the man.
353
00:13:37,071 --> 00:13:39,707
He was gonna hire me back
after six months
354
00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,009
if I went to rehab
and got clean, which I did.
355
00:13:43,010 --> 00:13:45,412
Hell, he paid for it.
356
00:13:45,413 --> 00:13:48,082
That's his car right there.
357
00:13:48,182 --> 00:13:50,951
I keep it spotless,
just waiting for the day
358
00:13:51,085 --> 00:13:53,853
I can pick him up
and take him to work.
359
00:13:53,854 --> 00:13:55,356
It doesn't matter now.
360
00:13:58,859 --> 00:14:02,129
- Tell me, his Android
sync up with this?
361
00:14:04,532 --> 00:14:05,965
- Hey.
362
00:14:05,966 --> 00:14:08,235
Finally got access
to Ted Hunter's texts.
363
00:14:08,335 --> 00:14:10,403
- And there's a nasty
exchange between him
364
00:14:10,404 --> 00:14:13,039
and his youngest son's
football coach, Brian Boggs.
365
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,507
- What were they beefing about?
366
00:14:14,508 --> 00:14:15,909
- His son's knee.
367
00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:17,277
Ted thought he was fine.
368
00:14:17,278 --> 00:14:19,380
Took him to every top
orthopedist in New York City.
369
00:14:19,513 --> 00:14:21,781
Doctors couldn't find
anything wrong with him.
370
00:14:21,782 --> 00:14:24,250
No tear, nothing.
371
00:14:24,251 --> 00:14:25,685
- Yeah, but the coach still
didn't want to play him.
372
00:14:25,686 --> 00:14:26,953
So Ted got pissed,
373
00:14:26,954 --> 00:14:28,421
and in the days
leading up to the murder,
374
00:14:28,422 --> 00:14:30,224
he texts the coach that he's
gonna come down to the school
375
00:14:30,324 --> 00:14:32,325
and speak to him face-to-face.
376
00:14:32,326 --> 00:14:34,895
- Well, it's weird that
Josh didn't mention
377
00:14:34,995 --> 00:14:36,830
there was anything funky
going on with football,
378
00:14:36,831 --> 00:14:38,599
because it's like
that family's religion.
379
00:14:38,733 --> 00:14:41,736
So try to get
to the bottom of that.
380
00:14:41,836 --> 00:14:43,104
[whistle blasts]
381
00:14:43,237 --> 00:14:45,004
- Respectfully, I'm gonna trust
382
00:14:45,005 --> 00:14:46,574
that you and the family
can sort this out.
383
00:14:46,707 --> 00:14:47,907
This has nothing to do with me.
384
00:14:47,908 --> 00:14:50,810
- Oh, we're not so certain
about that, Coach Boggs.
385
00:14:50,811 --> 00:14:52,012
- The hell does that mean?
386
00:14:52,113 --> 00:14:53,380
- It means you had
some pretty sharp words
387
00:14:53,381 --> 00:14:55,082
for Ted Hunter in the days
before he was found
388
00:14:55,182 --> 00:14:57,016
with a knife in his chest.
389
00:14:57,017 --> 00:14:59,954
"You come after me,
I'll come after you"?
390
00:15:00,054 --> 00:15:01,989
- Ted didn't like some of
the decisions you were making.
391
00:15:02,123 --> 00:15:03,356
So two days before the murder,
392
00:15:03,357 --> 00:15:05,760
he comes down here
to sort it out.
393
00:15:05,893 --> 00:15:07,995
Seems like he was
gunning for your job.
394
00:15:08,095 --> 00:15:09,530
- Yeah.
See, we're murder cops.
395
00:15:09,630 --> 00:15:10,598
So in our line of work,
396
00:15:10,698 --> 00:15:12,632
that kind of smells
like motive.
397
00:15:12,633 --> 00:15:14,434
- You got to be kidding me.
398
00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:15,568
[sighs]
399
00:15:15,569 --> 00:15:17,837
After the doctors cleared Josh,
400
00:15:17,838 --> 00:15:20,573
Ted was angry
I wasn't playing him.
401
00:15:20,574 --> 00:15:22,942
He kept asking--
just didn't like the answer.
402
00:15:22,943 --> 00:15:24,511
- Which was?
403
00:15:24,512 --> 00:15:26,813
- I don't think Josh ever
got hurt in the first place.
404
00:15:26,814 --> 00:15:29,450
- You're telling me
Josh faked his injury?
405
00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:31,685
- You think this was his way
of quitting the team?
406
00:15:31,786 --> 00:15:35,088
- I think Josh resents the type
of athlete that his brother is.
407
00:15:35,089 --> 00:15:38,325
He resents the idea that he's
supposed to be the next one.
408
00:15:38,459 --> 00:15:40,160
I'm not sure
anybody ever asked Josh
409
00:15:40,161 --> 00:15:41,495
if he really wanted to do this.
410
00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:43,764
- All right, so you were
just buying him some time
411
00:15:43,864 --> 00:15:45,032
while he worked things out, huh?
412
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:46,434
- He knew what a thing
it would be
413
00:15:46,534 --> 00:15:48,034
for him to quit football,
414
00:15:48,035 --> 00:15:50,103
what it would mean
to his father.
415
00:15:50,104 --> 00:15:52,472
So I--I played along.
416
00:15:52,473 --> 00:15:53,907
I pretended, you know,
417
00:15:53,908 --> 00:15:55,375
that I thought
he was still hurt.
418
00:15:55,376 --> 00:15:57,677
Then his father came
down here spitting fire.
419
00:15:57,678 --> 00:15:59,245
And I had no choice.
420
00:15:59,246 --> 00:16:01,014
I had to tell him the truth--
421
00:16:01,015 --> 00:16:02,783
that his son wasn't hurt,
422
00:16:02,883 --> 00:16:05,552
that he just doesn't want
to play football.
423
00:16:05,553 --> 00:16:07,721
[whistle blasts]
424
00:16:07,722 --> 00:16:09,689
- [grunting]
425
00:16:09,690 --> 00:16:13,493
So you find the guy?
426
00:16:13,494 --> 00:16:15,029
- We did, Josh.
427
00:16:15,162 --> 00:16:16,564
- Take a look at this.
428
00:16:20,267 --> 00:16:22,369
That's you on Monday
cutting through the gym.
429
00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:24,504
It's a shortcut
to the parking lot, right?
430
00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:25,740
- Uh-huh.
431
00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,375
[tense music]
432
00:16:27,508 --> 00:16:29,876
- We've all been there--
empty gym and a ball.
433
00:16:29,877 --> 00:16:31,045
Got to take some shots, right?
434
00:16:31,145 --> 00:16:32,645
I mean,
that's just being a boy.
435
00:16:32,646 --> 00:16:34,314
♪ ♪
436
00:16:34,315 --> 00:16:36,616
- Bro, what are you doing?
437
00:16:36,617 --> 00:16:41,087
- I mean, some days,
my knee feels pretty good.
438
00:16:41,088 --> 00:16:43,490
- Or you never injured it
in the first place.
439
00:16:43,491 --> 00:16:44,792
- What?
No, that's ridiculous.
440
00:16:44,892 --> 00:16:46,027
He's--he's clearly--
441
00:16:46,127 --> 00:16:47,627
- Coach Boggs gave you
some space and some time
442
00:16:47,628 --> 00:16:50,964
to figure out
what you wanted to do, right?
443
00:16:50,965 --> 00:16:53,099
Whether you wanted
to play ball or not.
444
00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:58,105
He told you to go hang out
in the library after school
445
00:16:58,239 --> 00:16:59,773
while practices were
going on, right?
446
00:16:59,774 --> 00:17:00,974
- Josh, what is this?
447
00:17:00,975 --> 00:17:02,742
- Because Coach Boggs knew
that you lied
448
00:17:02,743 --> 00:17:04,310
to your father
about your injury,
449
00:17:04,311 --> 00:17:06,679
that you lied to your father
about going to practices too.
450
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,048
- No, that's not true.
451
00:17:08,049 --> 00:17:10,151
- Josh, we recovered
452
00:17:10,251 --> 00:17:12,353
your search history
from the library.
453
00:17:12,453 --> 00:17:14,722
- And we saw that you purchased
a 4-inch serrated blade,
454
00:17:14,822 --> 00:17:16,122
just like this one
that was found
455
00:17:16,123 --> 00:17:19,894
near the murder scene
covered in your father's blood.
456
00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:21,661
- Oh, my God.
457
00:17:21,662 --> 00:17:23,096
- On your feet, kid.
458
00:17:23,097 --> 00:17:24,632
- Come on, man.
459
00:17:24,732 --> 00:17:25,800
Come on.
460
00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:27,667
[tense music]
461
00:17:27,668 --> 00:17:28,835
- Hands behind your back.
462
00:17:28,836 --> 00:17:30,304
- Josh.
463
00:17:30,438 --> 00:17:35,041
- You are under arrest
for the murder
464
00:17:35,042 --> 00:17:37,510
of your father, Ted Hunter.
465
00:17:37,511 --> 00:17:39,212
- Josh,
what are they talking about?
466
00:17:39,213 --> 00:17:41,248
Officers, hold on. Wait.
467
00:17:50,624 --> 00:17:51,659
- How do you feel
about ordering
468
00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:53,960
from that dumpling place
this evening?
469
00:17:53,961 --> 00:17:56,329
- I actually brought food
from home.
470
00:17:56,330 --> 00:17:58,798
I'm trying to save
a little money right now.
471
00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:01,702
- You OK?
- Yeah.
472
00:18:01,802 --> 00:18:03,703
It's dumb.
473
00:18:03,704 --> 00:18:05,272
I have this crazy uncle.
474
00:18:05,373 --> 00:18:07,173
He's the worst with money.
475
00:18:07,174 --> 00:18:11,678
I mean, I made budgets.
I have taught him Excel.
476
00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:13,381
Nothing takes.
477
00:18:13,481 --> 00:18:16,950
So depending on the month,
we all have to pay his rent.
478
00:18:16,951 --> 00:18:18,285
And this month?
479
00:18:23,524 --> 00:18:24,825
What?
480
00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:28,561
- [sighs]
481
00:18:28,562 --> 00:18:31,799
I went to some Al-Anon meetings
482
00:18:31,899 --> 00:18:34,134
when my brother was doing
terrible things to himself,
483
00:18:34,135 --> 00:18:35,301
taking drugs.
484
00:18:35,302 --> 00:18:37,270
I was banging my head
into the wall.
485
00:18:37,271 --> 00:18:38,806
They have this thing.
486
00:18:38,906 --> 00:18:41,642
They call it the three C's.
487
00:18:41,742 --> 00:18:43,009
You didn't cause it.
488
00:18:43,010 --> 00:18:44,644
You can't control it.
489
00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:47,313
You can't cure it.
490
00:18:47,314 --> 00:18:50,116
You know, we try and help
the people we love,
491
00:18:50,117 --> 00:18:52,952
but at some point,
you just draw the line.
492
00:18:52,953 --> 00:18:55,289
You walk away.
[knock at door]
493
00:18:55,389 --> 00:18:57,257
- I've been getting a lot
of calls about this one.
494
00:18:57,258 --> 00:18:58,858
- About Josh Hunter?
495
00:18:58,859 --> 00:19:00,627
- No, about Eric Hunter.
496
00:19:00,628 --> 00:19:02,662
- Well, Eric's got
nothing to do with it.
497
00:19:02,663 --> 00:19:04,664
- I know, but when a kid's
going high in the draft,
498
00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:06,667
a lot of powerful people
get nervous, so...
499
00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:09,302
- Like Sam said,
we have no reason to believe
500
00:19:09,303 --> 00:19:10,470
that Eric is involved.
501
00:19:10,471 --> 00:19:11,806
- OK, good.
502
00:19:11,906 --> 00:19:13,440
So what do we know?
503
00:19:13,441 --> 00:19:15,208
What really happened?
504
00:19:15,209 --> 00:19:18,546
- Well, it's still
a work in progress,
505
00:19:18,646 --> 00:19:22,315
but largely circumstantial
right now.
506
00:19:22,316 --> 00:19:25,652
But here's what we can prove.
507
00:19:25,653 --> 00:19:29,522
Josh bought a knife identical
to the murder weapon.
508
00:19:29,523 --> 00:19:31,691
There is ARGUS footage
of the actual stabbing.
509
00:19:31,692 --> 00:19:33,927
Killer appears to have the same
height and build as Josh.
510
00:19:33,928 --> 00:19:37,164
And when asked where he was
at the time of the murder,
511
00:19:37,264 --> 00:19:40,234
Josh lied to police,
said he was home.
512
00:19:42,236 --> 00:19:43,971
- You seem to have
left out motive.
513
00:19:44,071 --> 00:19:45,472
- Ah.
[chuckles]
514
00:19:45,473 --> 00:19:47,274
You noticed.
Uh, yeah.
515
00:19:47,375 --> 00:19:48,442
Hopefully the jury will be--
516
00:19:48,542 --> 00:19:50,076
- Cases like this one
can be tricky,
517
00:19:50,077 --> 00:19:51,611
even with a tidal wave
of evidence.
518
00:19:51,612 --> 00:19:54,848
Juries tend to take their cue
from surviving family,
519
00:19:54,849 --> 00:19:57,184
almost as much
as from the evidence itself.
520
00:19:57,284 --> 00:19:58,419
They'll be looking
to the big brother
521
00:19:58,519 --> 00:19:59,720
to see where
he comes down on this.
522
00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:01,621
Does he want justice
for his father,
523
00:20:01,622 --> 00:20:03,624
or does he want to see
his little brother walk free?
524
00:20:08,929 --> 00:20:10,097
- Wait, I'm sorry.
525
00:20:10,197 --> 00:20:12,466
So you guys are asking me
to do what exactly?
526
00:20:12,566 --> 00:20:16,170
- So we need you
to help the jury understand
527
00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:18,372
that your father was
a good man--
528
00:20:18,472 --> 00:20:20,507
that he loved his family,
that you loved him,
529
00:20:20,508 --> 00:20:23,977
and that he will be
deeply missed.
530
00:20:23,978 --> 00:20:29,015
- So you want me to testify
against my brother?
531
00:20:29,016 --> 00:20:32,452
- Testify in support
of your father.
532
00:20:32,453 --> 00:20:35,655
- We know how complicated
this is for you, Eric,
533
00:20:35,656 --> 00:20:38,959
but we really need your help.
534
00:20:40,795 --> 00:20:43,296
- No.
535
00:20:43,297 --> 00:20:45,232
No, I won't turn my back
on my brother.
536
00:20:45,332 --> 00:20:47,200
- Your brother murdered
your father.
537
00:20:47,201 --> 00:20:49,703
He hunted him down,
he laid in wait for him,
538
00:20:49,704 --> 00:20:52,006
and he stabbed a knife
into his heart twice.
539
00:20:52,106 --> 00:20:53,940
- I said I won't do it.
540
00:20:53,941 --> 00:20:55,008
All right?
541
00:20:55,009 --> 00:20:56,843
So if you don't mind.
542
00:20:56,844 --> 00:20:59,847
[tense music]
543
00:20:59,947 --> 00:21:02,182
♪ ♪
544
00:21:02,183 --> 00:21:04,952
[phone buzzing]
545
00:21:05,052 --> 00:21:06,319
- The defense is
trying to suppress
546
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,254
Josh's statement to the police.
547
00:21:08,255 --> 00:21:09,990
- On what basis?
548
00:21:12,626 --> 00:21:14,361
{\an8}- It's inadmissible hearsay.
549
00:21:14,362 --> 00:21:15,529
- But it's not being offered
550
00:21:15,629 --> 00:21:17,297
for the truth of the matter
asserted.
551
00:21:17,298 --> 00:21:20,234
It's being offered to show
consciousness of guilt.
552
00:21:20,334 --> 00:21:22,102
He told the police
he was at home
553
00:21:22,103 --> 00:21:24,604
nursing a knee injury in order
to establish a false alibi.
554
00:21:24,605 --> 00:21:26,039
- My client's statement
to the police
555
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,741
is legally unreliable.
556
00:21:27,742 --> 00:21:28,742
- Why is that?
557
00:21:28,743 --> 00:21:30,143
- It was given
under extreme duress.
558
00:21:30,144 --> 00:21:31,512
- There is no evidence
of coercion.
559
00:21:31,612 --> 00:21:32,846
- There doesn't need to be.
560
00:21:32,847 --> 00:21:34,748
My client is 17 years old.
561
00:21:34,749 --> 00:21:35,949
He is a child.
562
00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:37,817
He was in a very fragile state.
563
00:21:37,818 --> 00:21:39,552
He had just learned
his father was killed.
564
00:21:39,553 --> 00:21:40,988
He wasn't thinking clearly.
565
00:21:41,088 --> 00:21:44,758
And the prosecutors want
to use this moment of confusion
566
00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:46,292
to bury him.
567
00:21:46,293 --> 00:21:48,462
They're basing their whole damn
case on this one misstatement,
568
00:21:48,562 --> 00:21:51,699
which, by the way, was given
without an adult present,
569
00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:53,933
except for Josh's
20-year-old brother,
570
00:21:53,934 --> 00:21:55,301
who was also grieving.
571
00:21:55,302 --> 00:21:57,404
- No, the defendant was
not being interrogated.
572
00:21:57,405 --> 00:21:59,239
He didn't have the right
to an interested adult.
573
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,707
- He was also not under arrest.
574
00:22:00,708 --> 00:22:02,942
He talked with the police
freely and voluntarily.
575
00:22:02,943 --> 00:22:04,277
- Enough.
576
00:22:04,278 --> 00:22:06,813
Looking at the totality
of the circumstances,
577
00:22:06,814 --> 00:22:10,050
the declarant's age,
his state of mind,
578
00:22:10,051 --> 00:22:11,484
the lack of counsel,
579
00:22:11,485 --> 00:22:12,786
I'm granting the motion.
580
00:22:12,787 --> 00:22:14,221
- Your Honor,
I would urge you--
581
00:22:14,321 --> 00:22:15,756
- It's over, Mr. Price.
582
00:22:15,856 --> 00:22:18,224
His statement to the police
regarding his whereabouts
583
00:22:18,225 --> 00:22:20,161
the day of the murder is out.
584
00:22:25,332 --> 00:22:26,633
- Look, we're still fine.
585
00:22:26,634 --> 00:22:27,967
We've got video of the crime.
586
00:22:27,968 --> 00:22:30,738
- Which is grainy and doesn't
reveal the killer's face.
587
00:22:30,838 --> 00:22:32,907
- We can prove
Josh bought the knife.
588
00:22:33,007 --> 00:22:35,242
- How many of those knives
were sold last year?
589
00:22:35,342 --> 00:22:38,244
- 5,703.
- Yeah.
590
00:22:38,245 --> 00:22:41,315
We need a theory of the case,
591
00:22:41,415 --> 00:22:44,284
a narrative for the jury
to buy into.
592
00:22:44,285 --> 00:22:45,686
Motive.
593
00:22:46,954 --> 00:22:49,122
Other than the defendant,
who won't talk,
594
00:22:49,123 --> 00:22:50,990
and the victim, who can't,
595
00:22:50,991 --> 00:22:52,826
there is only one other person
who can help us
596
00:22:52,827 --> 00:22:54,527
make sense of this--
Eric Hunter.
597
00:22:54,528 --> 00:22:55,730
- Eric was very clear.
598
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:57,630
He's not interested
in working with us.
599
00:22:57,631 --> 00:22:59,332
- I get that
he is in a tight spot,
600
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:00,867
but at the end of the day,
601
00:23:00,868 --> 00:23:02,136
wouldn't you want justice
for your father?
602
00:23:02,236 --> 00:23:03,470
- Yeah.
603
00:23:03,471 --> 00:23:06,474
- A father that Eric idolized
by all accounts.
604
00:23:06,574 --> 00:23:08,609
Teenagers who murder
their parents
605
00:23:08,709 --> 00:23:10,310
basically fall into two camps.
606
00:23:10,311 --> 00:23:11,911
They are mentally ill,
which doesn't appear
607
00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:13,780
to be the case here,
or they're rebelling
608
00:23:13,781 --> 00:23:14,915
against parental control,
all right?
609
00:23:15,015 --> 00:23:18,351
Rules about dating,
curfews, money.
610
00:23:18,352 --> 00:23:20,387
- I spoke with
Josh's friends, teachers.
611
00:23:20,388 --> 00:23:21,788
He seemed pretty normal.
612
00:23:21,789 --> 00:23:23,623
He spent most of his time
playing sports.
613
00:23:23,624 --> 00:23:25,859
- Have Computer Crimes take
another look at his phone,
614
00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:27,962
his computer, see what websites
615
00:23:28,062 --> 00:23:31,231
he was visiting,
who he was communicating with,
616
00:23:31,232 --> 00:23:33,067
sharing his feelings with.
617
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,343
We just got encrypted messages
exchanged between Josh Hunter
618
00:23:43,344 --> 00:23:44,678
and his therapist,
covering a period
619
00:23:44,779 --> 00:23:47,547
of seven months
prior to the murder.
620
00:23:47,548 --> 00:23:49,683
- I'm sure that's helpful,
but conversations
621
00:23:49,784 --> 00:23:51,384
between a defendant
and his therapist
622
00:23:51,385 --> 00:23:52,652
are obviously privileged.
623
00:23:52,653 --> 00:23:55,021
- Yeah, if the therapist
is a human being.
624
00:23:55,022 --> 00:23:56,323
- Pardon me?
625
00:23:56,424 --> 00:24:00,194
- Josh's therapist was
an AI-generated chatbot.
626
00:24:00,294 --> 00:24:01,327
- What?
627
00:24:01,328 --> 00:24:02,762
[tense music]
628
00:24:02,763 --> 00:24:05,398
So who was on the other end
of the phone, so to speak?
629
00:24:05,399 --> 00:24:07,967
- No one.
An algorithm.
630
00:24:07,968 --> 00:24:10,437
- Was anyone monitoring
the conversation?
631
00:24:10,438 --> 00:24:12,939
The advice this therapist
was doling out?
632
00:24:12,940 --> 00:24:14,340
- No.
633
00:24:14,341 --> 00:24:16,476
♪ ♪
634
00:24:16,477 --> 00:24:18,512
- That is terrifying.
635
00:24:21,749 --> 00:24:23,083
- It's more common
than you might think.
636
00:24:23,084 --> 00:24:26,052
Young people are more
comfortable talking to a screen
637
00:24:26,053 --> 00:24:27,354
than a human being.
638
00:24:27,355 --> 00:24:28,955
- This is uncharted territory,
639
00:24:28,956 --> 00:24:31,391
but if Josh was talking
to a machine,
640
00:24:31,392 --> 00:24:33,693
then in my mind,
that's fair game.
641
00:24:33,694 --> 00:24:35,730
What did the messages say?
642
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:37,631
- There are thousands of them.
We're still reading.
643
00:24:37,732 --> 00:24:39,834
But so far, we can tell
644
00:24:39,934 --> 00:24:42,268
that Josh was in
a very dark place.
645
00:24:42,269 --> 00:24:44,037
He began to despise his father.
646
00:24:44,038 --> 00:24:46,473
- Apparently, his father was
very controlling
647
00:24:46,474 --> 00:24:48,942
and forced him into
an extreme exercise regimen.
648
00:24:48,943 --> 00:24:52,278
I'm talking extreme--
like, hard to believe.
649
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,381
The goal, of course,
was to mold him
650
00:24:54,382 --> 00:24:55,583
into an elite athlete.
651
00:24:55,683 --> 00:24:57,984
- He also kept him
on a very strict diet.
652
00:24:57,985 --> 00:25:00,820
No carbs, no sugar,
no processed food.
653
00:25:00,821 --> 00:25:02,623
He found a Snickers
in his backpack once.
654
00:25:02,723 --> 00:25:05,458
He made him run home
from practice, 10 miles.
655
00:25:05,459 --> 00:25:07,527
- "He's gonna run me to death.
Literally.
656
00:25:07,528 --> 00:25:10,331
I hate him.
It's him or me."
657
00:25:12,633 --> 00:25:15,535
- We have
a disciplinarian father
658
00:25:15,536 --> 00:25:17,704
putting his son
through an extreme
659
00:25:17,705 --> 00:25:19,740
exercise
and nutritional regimen,
660
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,941
which worked wonders on Eric,
661
00:25:21,942 --> 00:25:24,978
turned him
into an NFL prospect.
662
00:25:24,979 --> 00:25:26,312
But it turned Josh--
663
00:25:26,313 --> 00:25:29,215
- Into a murderer.
664
00:25:29,216 --> 00:25:32,053
- Sure sounds like motive
to me.
665
00:25:37,858 --> 00:25:38,993
- These text conversations
are protected
666
00:25:39,927 --> 00:25:41,528
by patient-therapist privilege,
Your Honor.
667
00:25:41,529 --> 00:25:43,897
- That is ridiculous
and bizarre.
668
00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:46,900
The defendant was communicating
with an AI generated chatbot,
669
00:25:46,901 --> 00:25:48,268
not a therapist.
670
00:25:48,269 --> 00:25:49,402
- The privilege was designed
671
00:25:49,403 --> 00:25:50,704
to encourage people
to get help.
672
00:25:50,705 --> 00:25:52,106
That's exactly what Josh did.
673
00:25:52,206 --> 00:25:53,708
He thought he was talking
to a real therapist.
674
00:25:53,808 --> 00:25:55,341
- Well, the law is clear.
675
00:25:55,342 --> 00:25:56,977
Privilege applies
only to registered,
676
00:25:57,078 --> 00:25:59,112
licensed mental health
professionals.
677
00:25:59,113 --> 00:26:01,549
- Courts have found
that attorney-client privilege
678
00:26:01,649 --> 00:26:03,283
applies to unlicensed lawyers.
679
00:26:03,284 --> 00:26:06,087
The same standard should apply
to unlicensed therapists.
680
00:26:06,187 --> 00:26:09,956
- It's immaterial if this thing
is licensed or unlicensed.
681
00:26:09,957 --> 00:26:12,258
It's not a therapist
in the first place.
682
00:26:12,259 --> 00:26:14,594
- AI-generated therapy
is an emerging practice.
683
00:26:14,595 --> 00:26:16,563
The law goes hand in hand
with human progress.
684
00:26:16,564 --> 00:26:17,964
- But that has nothing to do
685
00:26:17,965 --> 00:26:19,833
with the current state
of the law.
686
00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:21,869
If Mr. Winters feels strongly
about this issue,
687
00:26:21,969 --> 00:26:23,670
he should go to Albany
and lobby
688
00:26:23,671 --> 00:26:25,772
for legislation
allowing machines
689
00:26:25,773 --> 00:26:27,375
to become licensed therapists.
690
00:26:27,475 --> 00:26:29,543
Short of that,
privilege does not apply,
691
00:26:29,643 --> 00:26:31,711
which means
this is admissible evidence
692
00:26:31,712 --> 00:26:34,781
vital to the People's case.
693
00:26:34,782 --> 00:26:38,151
- I agree with the People.
694
00:26:38,152 --> 00:26:39,854
I'm not extending privilege
to what amounts
695
00:26:39,987 --> 00:26:43,557
to a computer program
simulating human conversation.
696
00:26:43,657 --> 00:26:45,059
Motion denied.
697
00:26:45,159 --> 00:26:46,327
- Thank you, Your Honor.
698
00:26:47,828 --> 00:26:49,796
In reviewing the messages
699
00:26:49,797 --> 00:26:53,133
that Josh sent
his so-called therapist,
700
00:26:53,134 --> 00:26:56,369
could you describe
the general tone?
701
00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:58,238
- Angry. Resentful.
702
00:26:58,239 --> 00:26:59,806
- Angry at whom?
703
00:26:59,807 --> 00:27:01,742
- His father, Ted Hunter.
704
00:27:01,842 --> 00:27:03,344
- Resentful about what?
705
00:27:03,444 --> 00:27:04,778
- Football, basically.
706
00:27:04,779 --> 00:27:06,881
The training regimen
that his father implemented.
707
00:27:11,852 --> 00:27:14,455
{\an8}- Are these
the defendant's words?
708
00:27:14,555 --> 00:27:15,689
{\an8}- Yes, they are.
709
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:17,758
He wrote that March 12th.
710
00:27:17,858 --> 00:27:20,794
- And later that same day,
did he make an online purchase?
711
00:27:20,795 --> 00:27:23,064
- He spent $249
712
00:27:23,164 --> 00:27:26,499
on a tactical, serrated,
folding blade
713
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,702
manufactured by Iron Forge.
714
00:27:28,703 --> 00:27:30,336
He had that sent to his home.
715
00:27:30,337 --> 00:27:31,771
- Who paid for it?
716
00:27:31,772 --> 00:27:33,908
- He used
his father's credit card.
717
00:27:36,777 --> 00:27:39,646
- I'm showing you what's been
marked as Exhibit 9B.
718
00:27:39,647 --> 00:27:40,880
Have you seen
this knife before?
719
00:27:40,881 --> 00:27:42,816
- I have.
We found that in a trash can
720
00:27:42,817 --> 00:27:43,918
near the murder scene.
721
00:27:44,018 --> 00:27:45,552
It was coated in blood.
722
00:27:45,553 --> 00:27:47,921
And DNA test results confirmed
723
00:27:47,922 --> 00:27:50,390
that is indeed
the victim's blood.
724
00:27:50,391 --> 00:27:52,359
- Could you describe
this knife?
725
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,496
- It is a serrated,
folding, tactical blade
726
00:27:56,497 --> 00:27:58,331
manufactured by Iron Forge.
727
00:27:58,332 --> 00:28:00,300
- Thank you, Detective.
728
00:28:00,301 --> 00:28:02,136
- Your Honor, may I?
729
00:28:05,339 --> 00:28:07,675
Can you read the message
that Josh sent to his therapist
730
00:28:07,775 --> 00:28:09,542
on January 22nd?
731
00:28:09,543 --> 00:28:10,810
- "Couldn't finish
sled sprints,
732
00:28:10,811 --> 00:28:14,048
"so Dad made me do
200 Nordics on the SledTred.
733
00:28:14,148 --> 00:28:17,717
Barfed up my protein shake,
so Dad made me do 100 more."
734
00:28:17,718 --> 00:28:20,487
- So it's clear that
the defendant was forced
735
00:28:20,488 --> 00:28:23,156
to exercise until he vomited.
736
00:28:23,157 --> 00:28:26,559
His punishment for vomiting is
that he had to exercise more.
737
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,961
Do I have that right?
738
00:28:27,962 --> 00:28:29,195
- It would appear so.
739
00:28:29,196 --> 00:28:30,930
- How did Josh's therapist
respond?
740
00:28:30,931 --> 00:28:33,434
- Objection.
- Overruled.
741
00:28:36,604 --> 00:28:39,072
- "Josh, what you're describing
is deliberately aggressive,
742
00:28:39,073 --> 00:28:42,609
"violent behavior
causing bodily harm.
743
00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:44,878
The definition
of physical abuse."
744
00:28:44,879 --> 00:28:46,980
[tense music]
745
00:28:46,981 --> 00:28:48,982
"I believe
your life is in danger."
746
00:28:48,983 --> 00:28:50,684
- So it was the opinion
of Josh's therapist--
747
00:28:50,785 --> 00:28:51,819
- Objection.
748
00:28:51,952 --> 00:28:55,155
Your Honor,
in what world are the musings
749
00:28:55,156 --> 00:28:58,558
of some algorithm remotely
relevant in this court?
750
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,094
- It is relevant to support
my client's assertion
751
00:29:01,095 --> 00:29:02,729
of self-defense.
752
00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:04,130
- Which is the first
we're hearing
753
00:29:04,131 --> 00:29:07,067
anything related
to self-defense, Your Honor.
754
00:29:07,068 --> 00:29:09,170
- I'll see counsel in chambers.
755
00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:10,670
[gavel bangs]
756
00:29:10,671 --> 00:29:12,238
♪ ♪
757
00:29:12,239 --> 00:29:14,742
- Your Honor,
the facts do not support
758
00:29:14,842 --> 00:29:16,043
a claim of self-defense.
759
00:29:16,143 --> 00:29:17,878
The defendant hunted down
the victim.
760
00:29:17,978 --> 00:29:19,079
He was never in danger.
761
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,614
- My client thought
he was in danger.
762
00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:21,949
- No, that is not enough.
763
00:29:22,049 --> 00:29:23,918
The defense would have to prove
that a reasonable person
764
00:29:24,018 --> 00:29:25,919
in the same situation
would do the same thing.
765
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,388
- Not when the accused
is suffering
766
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:29,824
from battered child syndrome.
767
00:29:29,924 --> 00:29:32,158
- Which isn't a recognized
defense in New York.
768
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:33,394
- 7.06.
769
00:29:33,527 --> 00:29:34,795
- Battered woman syndrome?
770
00:29:34,895 --> 00:29:36,263
- That's what we call it
colloquially,
771
00:29:36,364 --> 00:29:39,065
but actually it's called
the abused person syndrome,
772
00:29:39,066 --> 00:29:41,235
which covers people who are
related by consanguinity,
773
00:29:41,335 --> 00:29:42,335
blood relatives.
774
00:29:42,336 --> 00:29:45,171
- The statute is
clearly intended to protect
775
00:29:45,172 --> 00:29:47,742
adult blood relatives
and women.
776
00:29:47,842 --> 00:29:51,444
- Except it doesn't
say that explicitly.
777
00:29:51,445 --> 00:29:53,246
- I'm allowing it.
778
00:29:53,247 --> 00:29:55,615
It's up to the jury to decide
whether the defendant
779
00:29:55,616 --> 00:29:59,320
reasonably believed
his life was in danger or not.
780
00:30:06,794 --> 00:30:08,361
{\an8}- What did you conclude,
Doctor Morley,
781
00:30:08,362 --> 00:30:10,530
from your forensic evaluation
of my client?
782
00:30:10,531 --> 00:30:13,566
- I believe that Josh suffers
from battered child syndrome
783
00:30:13,567 --> 00:30:15,702
as a result
of verbal degradation,
784
00:30:15,703 --> 00:30:18,105
extreme discipline,
and physical punishment.
785
00:30:18,205 --> 00:30:19,939
Josh's father may have believed
786
00:30:19,940 --> 00:30:21,908
he was pursuing structure
and discipline,
787
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:23,810
but it crossed the line
into abuse.
788
00:30:23,811 --> 00:30:25,880
And it lasted for years,
789
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:28,314
essentially from the onset
of Josh's pubescence
790
00:30:28,315 --> 00:30:30,184
until the day
of his father's death.
791
00:30:30,284 --> 00:30:34,087
- How did that impact Josh's
ability to perceive danger?
792
00:30:34,088 --> 00:30:36,122
- He developed
chronic hypervigilance.
793
00:30:36,123 --> 00:30:39,026
He was always bracing
for more punishment.
794
00:30:40,027 --> 00:30:41,695
- He lived in fear.
795
00:30:41,696 --> 00:30:43,531
- Worse than that, arguably.
796
00:30:43,631 --> 00:30:46,566
- Kill or be killed.
797
00:30:46,567 --> 00:30:48,702
- That's more like it.
798
00:30:48,703 --> 00:30:50,303
- Thank you, Doctor Morley.
799
00:30:50,304 --> 00:30:51,871
- Cross-examination.
800
00:30:51,872 --> 00:30:53,674
- Did Josh tell you
that his father beat him?
801
00:30:53,808 --> 00:30:54,842
- No.
802
00:30:54,942 --> 00:30:56,076
- Threatened his life?
803
00:30:56,077 --> 00:30:57,410
- No.
804
00:30:57,411 --> 00:31:01,514
- So Josh Hunter's perception
that his life was in danger
805
00:31:01,515 --> 00:31:03,950
at the moment that he elected
806
00:31:03,951 --> 00:31:06,486
to plunge a knife
into his father's heart,
807
00:31:06,487 --> 00:31:10,557
this perception was not
genuine or reasonable, was it?
808
00:31:10,558 --> 00:31:14,161
- I can only tell you
what I observed, Mr. Price,
809
00:31:14,261 --> 00:31:16,529
which is that Josh believed
on that morning
810
00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:20,400
that his life, his survival,
was in jeopardy.
811
00:31:20,401 --> 00:31:22,936
Only Josh has seen
what he has seen,
812
00:31:22,937 --> 00:31:24,003
feared what he has feared
813
00:31:24,004 --> 00:31:26,040
in the way
that he has feared it.
814
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:30,177
You are free to call
his actions unreasonable.
815
00:31:30,277 --> 00:31:32,746
I suppose your job requires it.
816
00:31:32,747 --> 00:31:35,349
I'm just not comfortable
doing that.
817
00:31:37,251 --> 00:31:39,486
- You loved your father,
didn't you?
818
00:31:39,487 --> 00:31:41,054
- Yes.
819
00:31:41,055 --> 00:31:43,556
He--he was my hero.
820
00:31:43,557 --> 00:31:45,159
- And you killed him?
821
00:31:47,628 --> 00:31:48,795
- [sighs]
822
00:31:48,796 --> 00:31:50,231
Yeah.
823
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,503
I guess I just snapped.
824
00:31:56,504 --> 00:32:00,674
I can't explain it,
but I couldn't take it anymore.
825
00:32:00,775 --> 00:32:02,443
- You ever been
to McDonald's, Josh?
826
00:32:05,246 --> 00:32:08,314
- Uh, no.
827
00:32:08,315 --> 00:32:10,917
- Ever tried
movie theater popcorn?
828
00:32:10,918 --> 00:32:11,951
- No.
829
00:32:11,952 --> 00:32:13,019
- A sip of beer?
830
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:15,655
- [scoffs]
No.
831
00:32:15,656 --> 00:32:18,792
- You go to prom last year?
832
00:32:18,793 --> 00:32:22,363
- Um, my dad didn't
want me to go.
833
00:32:22,463 --> 00:32:25,365
- Shortly before
your dad's death,
834
00:32:25,366 --> 00:32:27,333
you more or less quit the team.
835
00:32:27,334 --> 00:32:28,369
- Yeah.
836
00:32:28,469 --> 00:32:31,405
Uh, I told everybody
that my knee was injured.
837
00:32:31,505 --> 00:32:33,573
- Did your dad find out?
838
00:32:33,574 --> 00:32:34,574
- Yeah.
839
00:32:34,575 --> 00:32:35,775
- What did he do?
840
00:32:35,776 --> 00:32:38,778
- He woke me up at 2:00 a.m.
841
00:32:38,779 --> 00:32:41,981
and we drove out
to the football field.
842
00:32:41,982 --> 00:32:45,251
Did this thing called 50-40s,
843
00:32:45,252 --> 00:32:47,788
where you sprint
to the 40-yard line and back
844
00:32:47,888 --> 00:32:51,759
25 times on a timer.
845
00:32:53,227 --> 00:32:54,728
- Did you make it?
846
00:32:54,729 --> 00:32:56,330
- No.
847
00:32:56,430 --> 00:33:01,635
So he made me do it again
until I threw up.
848
00:33:01,769 --> 00:33:05,239
- He bring you water
or anything?
849
00:33:06,807 --> 00:33:08,976
- No.
850
00:33:09,076 --> 00:33:13,747
He said,
"This is just the beginning.
851
00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:15,882
I'm gonna turn you into a man."
852
00:33:15,883 --> 00:33:17,117
Whatever it took.
853
00:33:17,118 --> 00:33:18,485
- Did that scare you?
854
00:33:18,486 --> 00:33:22,389
- I've never been so afraid
in my entire life.
855
00:33:22,390 --> 00:33:24,190
[solemn music]
856
00:33:24,191 --> 00:33:25,959
I thought he was gonna kill me.
857
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,627
- Thank you.
858
00:33:27,628 --> 00:33:28,661
Nothing further.
859
00:33:28,662 --> 00:33:31,865
♪ ♪
860
00:33:31,866 --> 00:33:34,434
- Josh, did you ever
tell your father
861
00:33:34,435 --> 00:33:38,605
that you didn't want to be
an elite football player?
862
00:33:38,606 --> 00:33:39,906
- No.
863
00:33:39,907 --> 00:33:41,608
God, no.
864
00:33:41,609 --> 00:33:45,178
- So you have no way of knowing
how he would have responded.
865
00:33:45,179 --> 00:33:47,747
- I know exactly how
he would have responded.
866
00:33:47,748 --> 00:33:50,717
He would have called me a sissy
and then tortured me
867
00:33:50,718 --> 00:33:53,053
with some sort
of crazy workout.
868
00:33:53,054 --> 00:33:56,089
- Did you ever raise
any of your fears or concerns
869
00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:59,259
with your teachers at school?
870
00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:00,994
- No.
- Your coaches?
871
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:03,063
Your--your teammates?
- No.
872
00:34:03,064 --> 00:34:05,165
- Did you ever call the police?
873
00:34:05,166 --> 00:34:08,502
- No.
But I told my brother, Eric.
874
00:34:08,602 --> 00:34:09,903
- Told him what?
875
00:34:09,904 --> 00:34:12,439
- I told him that
my dad was gonna kill me.
876
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,810
And he just--
he told me to suck it up.
877
00:34:16,811 --> 00:34:18,779
Be a man.
878
00:34:22,216 --> 00:34:24,652
I wish I was tougher, man.
879
00:34:26,987 --> 00:34:28,656
But I'm not.
880
00:34:30,791 --> 00:34:32,559
I'm not you, Eric.
881
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,129
♪ ♪
882
00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:40,600
[tearfully]
I'm... so sorry.
883
00:34:40,601 --> 00:34:44,704
♪ ♪
884
00:34:44,705 --> 00:34:47,006
I'm so sorry.
885
00:34:47,007 --> 00:34:48,909
♪ ♪
886
00:34:54,682 --> 00:34:56,250
- You think the jury
might actually find
887
00:34:56,951 --> 00:34:58,551
that Josh acted
in self-defense?
888
00:34:58,552 --> 00:35:00,920
- I think there is
enough of a chance
889
00:35:00,921 --> 00:35:04,024
that we should consider
offering him the opportunity
890
00:35:04,025 --> 00:35:05,960
to plead out manslaughter.
891
00:35:06,093 --> 00:35:08,228
After hearing that testimony
in the courtroom,
892
00:35:08,229 --> 00:35:10,597
I think it might be
the right ethical choice too.
893
00:35:10,598 --> 00:35:12,565
- No.
894
00:35:12,566 --> 00:35:13,634
No.
895
00:35:13,734 --> 00:35:16,404
You don't get to stalk down
a human being
896
00:35:16,537 --> 00:35:20,907
and put a knife in their heart
because you're too weak
897
00:35:20,908 --> 00:35:23,309
to handle what
the world served you.
898
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:25,278
By all accounts,
Eric Hunter went through
899
00:35:25,279 --> 00:35:27,548
exactly the same thing
as Josh did.
900
00:35:27,648 --> 00:35:30,051
And Eric appears to be
well-adjusted, thriving even,
901
00:35:30,184 --> 00:35:31,518
at least before this.
902
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,019
- Well, they're not
cookie cutters, Nolan.
903
00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:34,421
We're all built differently.
904
00:35:34,422 --> 00:35:36,724
- Which is, again,
not a justification for murder.
905
00:35:36,824 --> 00:35:40,126
My father was...
906
00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:43,396
not exactly warm and fuzzy.
907
00:35:43,397 --> 00:35:48,168
He was cold and unforgiving.
908
00:35:48,169 --> 00:35:49,402
There was not a lot
of affection.
909
00:35:49,403 --> 00:35:52,005
He shook my hand
once a year on my birthday.
910
00:35:52,006 --> 00:35:55,542
And--and guess what.
911
00:35:55,543 --> 00:35:58,112
Neither I nor either
of my two brothers
912
00:35:58,245 --> 00:36:00,647
ever resorted to murdering him.
913
00:36:00,648 --> 00:36:02,882
[tense music]
914
00:36:02,883 --> 00:36:04,984
- So what's the plan, Nolan?
915
00:36:04,985 --> 00:36:08,321
- I'm gonna call Eric Hunter
as a rebuttal witness.
916
00:36:08,322 --> 00:36:10,156
- As a hostile witness?
917
00:36:10,157 --> 00:36:11,691
- Correct.
918
00:36:11,692 --> 00:36:14,661
♪ ♪
919
00:36:14,662 --> 00:36:16,363
- OK.
920
00:36:16,364 --> 00:36:17,798
Trust your instincts.
921
00:36:17,898 --> 00:36:24,839
♪ ♪
922
00:36:28,876 --> 00:36:31,077
{\an8}- Can you tell the jury
the circumstances
923
00:36:31,078 --> 00:36:32,680
under which you're here?
924
00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:34,447
- You gave me a subpoena.
925
00:36:34,448 --> 00:36:37,752
- Making you what we call
a hostile witness.
926
00:36:37,852 --> 00:36:39,687
You're not here
'cause you want to be here.
927
00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:41,055
- Correct.
928
00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:42,122
- What did I tell you
would happen
929
00:36:42,123 --> 00:36:45,191
if you did not
testify here today?
930
00:36:45,192 --> 00:36:47,394
- That I would be arrested.
931
00:36:47,395 --> 00:36:48,896
- What did I tell you
would happen
932
00:36:48,996 --> 00:36:50,997
if you did not tell the truth?
933
00:36:50,998 --> 00:36:52,733
- I would be charged
with perjury.
934
00:36:52,833 --> 00:36:55,835
- And you understand
both of those things?
935
00:36:55,836 --> 00:36:57,303
- Yes, I do.
936
00:36:57,304 --> 00:36:59,707
- Was your father
a horrible man?
937
00:36:59,807 --> 00:37:02,008
A monster?
938
00:37:02,009 --> 00:37:03,943
- No.
- Did he deserve to die?
939
00:37:03,944 --> 00:37:06,546
- No.
- Did he love you?
940
00:37:06,547 --> 00:37:07,380
- Yes.
941
00:37:07,381 --> 00:37:08,816
- Did he love your brother?
942
00:37:10,584 --> 00:37:11,618
- Yes.
943
00:37:11,619 --> 00:37:15,622
- Your father wanted
you boys to succeed.
944
00:37:15,623 --> 00:37:18,159
Correct?
- Yes.
945
00:37:18,259 --> 00:37:20,994
When our mother died, he--
946
00:37:20,995 --> 00:37:23,763
he was terrified.
947
00:37:23,764 --> 00:37:26,399
He didn't think he had
what it took to raise us alone.
948
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,003
So he became very strict.
949
00:37:30,004 --> 00:37:32,472
- He believed in tough love?
950
00:37:32,473 --> 00:37:35,041
- Yes.
- Next year, you expect
951
00:37:35,042 --> 00:37:37,478
to be drafted
into the NFL, correct?
952
00:37:37,611 --> 00:37:39,746
- Well, I hope to be so lucky.
Yes.
953
00:37:39,747 --> 00:37:41,147
- Would you be
a first round pick
954
00:37:41,148 --> 00:37:42,348
if it weren't for your father?
955
00:37:42,349 --> 00:37:45,118
- No.
- But he was hard on you.
956
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:46,486
- Yes.
957
00:37:46,487 --> 00:37:48,222
- He said cruel things
to you sometimes.
958
00:37:48,322 --> 00:37:49,622
He questioned your commitment.
959
00:37:49,623 --> 00:37:51,257
He made you work out
extra hard.
960
00:37:51,258 --> 00:37:52,759
He ran you to the point
of exhaustion
961
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,760
- Yes.
962
00:37:53,761 --> 00:37:54,994
- Did you ever
try to murder him?
963
00:37:54,995 --> 00:37:56,296
- No!
964
00:37:56,297 --> 00:37:58,131
[tense music]
965
00:37:58,132 --> 00:38:00,734
But see, Josh isn't like me.
All right?
966
00:38:00,735 --> 00:38:02,669
He's a good person.
967
00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:04,038
Better than me.
968
00:38:04,138 --> 00:38:05,605
♪ ♪
969
00:38:05,606 --> 00:38:07,240
You see,
I could just turn it off.
970
00:38:07,241 --> 00:38:10,310
But Josh, he's--
he's sensitive.
971
00:38:10,311 --> 00:38:12,212
He felt stuff deep down,
972
00:38:12,213 --> 00:38:15,081
and all of that hurt him.
973
00:38:15,082 --> 00:38:16,517
It hurt him more than I--
974
00:38:16,617 --> 00:38:19,120
than I ever even knew
until now.
975
00:38:21,489 --> 00:38:24,924
- Because he didn't tell you
about his feelings.
976
00:38:24,925 --> 00:38:27,293
Did he, Eric?
977
00:38:27,294 --> 00:38:29,295
- No.
978
00:38:29,296 --> 00:38:32,665
- In fact, despite
what Josh told this jury
979
00:38:32,666 --> 00:38:35,468
in his sworn testimony,
he never told you
980
00:38:35,469 --> 00:38:37,837
that he thought your father was
gonna kill him, did he?
981
00:38:37,838 --> 00:38:41,241
♪ ♪
982
00:38:41,242 --> 00:38:44,844
- No. He never said that.
983
00:38:44,845 --> 00:38:46,514
He, uh...
984
00:38:48,416 --> 00:38:50,617
He never said that
he thought that
985
00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:52,585
our father was gonna kill him.
986
00:38:52,586 --> 00:38:56,423
♪ ♪
987
00:38:56,424 --> 00:38:57,991
- Nothing further.
988
00:38:57,992 --> 00:39:02,396
♪ ♪
989
00:39:02,496 --> 00:39:05,799
- Members of the jury,
have you agreed upon a verdict?
990
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,168
- We have.
991
00:39:09,837 --> 00:39:13,173
We find the defendant,
Josh Hunter,
992
00:39:13,174 --> 00:39:15,242
guilty of murder
in the second degree.
993
00:39:15,342 --> 00:39:16,577
[crowd murmuring]
994
00:39:16,711 --> 00:39:18,745
- Thank you for your service.
995
00:39:18,746 --> 00:39:20,113
We are adjourned.
996
00:39:20,114 --> 00:39:21,848
[gavel bangs]
997
00:39:21,849 --> 00:39:24,852
[dramatic music]
998
00:39:24,952 --> 00:39:31,892
♪ ♪
999
00:39:43,437 --> 00:39:45,405
[siren wailing]
1000
00:39:45,406 --> 00:39:47,575
[horns honking]
1001
00:39:51,846 --> 00:39:53,947
- Eric.
1002
00:39:53,948 --> 00:39:56,549
- Look, man, you got
what you wanted, all right?
1003
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:59,219
Now, please, leave me alone.
1004
00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:03,323
- Whatever you are thinking
or feeling right now,
1005
00:40:03,324 --> 00:40:06,093
your father did not
deserve to die.
1006
00:40:06,193 --> 00:40:11,132
Don't blame yourself
for what your brother did.
1007
00:40:11,232 --> 00:40:12,867
- Yeah, well,
it's not that easy.
1008
00:40:18,472 --> 00:40:20,006
- I get it.
1009
00:40:20,007 --> 00:40:22,042
I do.
1010
00:40:22,043 --> 00:40:23,777
I had a brother.
1011
00:40:23,778 --> 00:40:26,546
He's gone now.
He overdosed.
1012
00:40:26,547 --> 00:40:28,282
And I always asked myself
if there's more
1013
00:40:28,416 --> 00:40:29,784
that I could have done
to prevent that.
1014
00:40:29,884 --> 00:40:31,317
But the truth is,
1015
00:40:31,318 --> 00:40:34,754
he was a grown man,
1016
00:40:34,755 --> 00:40:37,725
and he made
his own tragic choices.
1017
00:40:38,793 --> 00:40:40,728
- You really believe that?
1018
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:45,598
The strong protect the weak.
1019
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,835
That's how the world works.
1020
00:40:47,968 --> 00:40:50,237
Well, that's how it's
supposed to work anyway.
1021
00:40:50,337 --> 00:40:53,339
I failed Josh, man.
1022
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:55,842
It's as simple as that.
1023
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And unlike you,
1024
00:40:58,446 --> 00:41:01,749
I will never be able
to forgive myself for that.
1025
00:41:24,538 --> 00:41:24,738
{\an8}...
1026
00:41:24,739 --> 00:41:27,541
{\an8}[dramatic music]
1027
00:41:27,808 --> 00:41:34,749
{\an8}♪ ♪
1028
00:41:54,035 --> 00:41:56,971
[wolf howls]
1029
00:41:56,971 --> 00:42:01,971
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00:41:56,971 --> 00:42:06,971
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