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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,217 --> 00:00:02,057 (gentle music) 2 00:00:02,137 --> 00:00:03,777 - [Reporter] Is it hard trying to live up to this image 3 00:00:03,857 --> 00:00:04,617 that people have of Mick Jagger? 4 00:00:04,697 --> 00:00:06,777 - No, because I don't try to. 5 00:00:06,857 --> 00:00:09,657 - [Reporter] But your own image, Mick Jagger's image. 6 00:00:09,737 --> 00:00:10,858 - I don't believe in images. 7 00:00:10,938 --> 00:00:13,418 It's only press and media that like to have images 8 00:00:13,498 --> 00:00:16,298 because it's useful to put people into categories. 9 00:00:16,378 --> 00:00:18,698 - [Reporter] But how do you see yourself then? 10 00:00:19,898 --> 00:00:21,219 - Oh, that's the most difficult thing of all, 11 00:00:21,299 --> 00:00:23,859 I mean that's what takes you a whole life to find out. 12 00:00:25,339 --> 00:00:28,139 (gentle music) 13 00:00:28,219 --> 00:00:31,540 What most documentaries do is just repeat the same thing 14 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:32,380 over and over and over. 15 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:35,580 You've heard all the mythologies repeated 16 00:00:35,660 --> 00:00:37,660 until it becomes true. 17 00:00:39,380 --> 00:00:41,941 People want to put things in boxes, 18 00:00:42,021 --> 00:00:45,821 and it all becomes this cliche box. 19 00:00:45,901 --> 00:00:48,861 And then the easiest thing is just to keep repeating that. 20 00:00:48,941 --> 00:00:52,622 So I guess we'll try, when we're chatting 21 00:00:52,702 --> 00:00:55,542 to expand those boxes. 22 00:00:55,622 --> 00:00:59,662 I think people probably like that idea. 23 00:00:59,742 --> 00:01:04,743 (rock music) (crowd cheering) 24 00:01:05,263 --> 00:01:06,143 - [Narrator] The Rolling Stones 25 00:01:06,223 --> 00:01:08,223 are the ultimate rock and roll band. 26 00:01:09,023 --> 00:01:09,743 (crowd cheering) 27 00:01:09,823 --> 00:01:10,864 - [Jim] It was just magic. 28 00:01:10,944 --> 00:01:11,944 They created this magic 29 00:01:12,024 --> 00:01:14,184 and they've been doing it for how long now? 30 00:01:15,144 --> 00:01:16,944 - [Narrator] A product of their times. 31 00:01:17,024 --> 00:01:19,024 They've helped to define ours. 32 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:21,945 - [Slash] They have a chemistry together, 33 00:01:22,025 --> 00:01:25,145 a creative inspiration that is magic. 34 00:01:28,265 --> 00:01:30,866 - [Narrator] And Mick Jagger has been out front 35 00:01:30,946 --> 00:01:32,946 for 60 years. 36 00:01:33,786 --> 00:01:35,466 - And he will sing and dance for us 37 00:01:35,546 --> 00:01:37,706 to illustrate his early moves. 38 00:01:39,386 --> 00:01:40,987 - [Jim] They look like Rolling Stones, 39 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:42,627 they act like Rolling Stones 40 00:01:42,707 --> 00:01:44,707 and they sound like Rolling Stones. 41 00:01:46,347 --> 00:01:48,467 - [Narrator] They set the benchmark for what a rock band 42 00:01:48,547 --> 00:01:53,148 should sound like, look like, feel like. 43 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:55,828 - If I start looking too mournful 44 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:57,548 and boring lighten me up a bit. 45 00:01:57,628 --> 00:01:59,548 - [Cameraman] Yeah. 46 00:01:59,628 --> 00:02:04,229 - [Lulu] The Rolling Stones recreated music, fashion. 47 00:02:04,309 --> 00:02:06,309 It is a fact. 48 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:08,789 - [Narrator] The supreme pop music brand, 49 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:12,630 they're a link between the counterculture of the 1960s 50 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:14,710 and the commercial modern world. 51 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:21,911 Across seven decades, they've written the play book 52 00:02:21,991 --> 00:02:23,991 for modern rock and roll. 53 00:02:25,271 --> 00:02:26,111 - I've got it. 54 00:02:26,191 --> 00:02:28,351 I'm gonna try and keep it light. 55 00:02:28,431 --> 00:02:31,992 - [Narrator] So this is the story of the key ingredients 56 00:02:32,072 --> 00:02:34,112 of the special Rolling Stones recipe. 57 00:02:34,952 --> 00:02:38,112 - [Bon Jovi] Chemistry is something that you can't buy. 58 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:40,633 That's the magic of a band. 59 00:02:40,713 --> 00:02:42,433 - [Narrator] Keith Richards, 60 00:02:42,513 --> 00:02:46,633 Ronnie Wood and the much missed Charlie Watts. 61 00:02:46,713 --> 00:02:48,233 - [Chrissie] We thought they were gods. 62 00:02:48,313 --> 00:02:49,833 We really did. 63 00:02:49,913 --> 00:02:53,834 - [Narrator] And on vocals, Sir Michael Philip Jagger, 64 00:02:55,634 --> 00:02:56,834 better known as. 65 00:02:56,914 --> 00:02:58,074 - Mick Jagger. 66 00:02:58,154 --> 00:02:59,394 Slate 3. 67 00:02:59,474 --> 00:03:02,075 (gentle music) 68 00:03:06,115 --> 00:03:07,995 - [Journalist] Let's start with a cliche. 69 00:03:08,075 --> 00:03:12,156 - No, no cliches, I thought we weren't doing cliches today. 70 00:03:13,436 --> 00:03:14,596 - Mick Jagger's Mick Jagger. 71 00:03:14,676 --> 00:03:17,756 He's the best frontman in the business. 72 00:03:17,836 --> 00:03:19,636 I mean, he'll get up there and do his stuff 73 00:03:19,716 --> 00:03:21,717 and lay it on you, and he means it. 74 00:03:22,477 --> 00:03:24,437 What you see is what you get. 75 00:03:24,517 --> 00:03:28,557 I mean there's loads of facets and variations on him, 76 00:03:28,637 --> 00:03:33,118 but he's really a very honorable man. 77 00:03:33,198 --> 00:03:35,358 I mean, under all of that crap. 78 00:03:35,438 --> 00:03:37,518 (Keith laughs) 79 00:03:37,598 --> 00:03:41,879 - One of my big jobs is to be a big show-off really, 80 00:03:41,959 --> 00:03:43,799 I mean that's really what it is. 81 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:47,159 I suppose that's my job for two hours 82 00:03:47,239 --> 00:03:48,959 to make people feel good. 83 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:50,960 To bring people a joyous experience 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,600 that they have a great evening, 85 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,880 and that's what I think my role is. 86 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,680 (gentle music) 87 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,761 ♪ I saw her today at the reception ♪ 88 00:04:03,041 --> 00:04:07,961 ♪ A glass of wine in her hand ♪ 89 00:04:08,041 --> 00:04:12,042 ♪ I knew she would meet her connection ♪ 90 00:04:12,122 --> 00:04:15,602 - [Sheryl] I always loved the idea of being Mick, 91 00:04:15,682 --> 00:04:17,362 one of the greatest front guys, 92 00:04:17,442 --> 00:04:19,242 the greatest rock star of all time. 93 00:04:19,322 --> 00:04:23,083 ♪ No, you can't always get what you want ♪ 94 00:04:23,163 --> 00:04:24,923 And how incredible that would be. 95 00:04:25,003 --> 00:04:29,363 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 96 00:04:29,443 --> 00:04:31,604 - [Lars] It's truly inspirational. 97 00:04:31,684 --> 00:04:36,284 They're the pioneers, they're the ones writing the story. 98 00:04:36,364 --> 00:04:41,405 ♪ But if you try sometimes, you just might find ♪ 99 00:04:41,485 --> 00:04:43,245 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 100 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:45,605 That's something that requires attention to a lot of detail. 101 00:04:45,685 --> 00:04:48,325 Mick Jagger does it incredibly well. 102 00:04:48,405 --> 00:04:49,885 (gentle music) 103 00:04:49,966 --> 00:04:51,566 - [Chrissie] Mick's not gonna let anything go wrong 104 00:04:51,646 --> 00:04:53,086 'cause he's in control. 105 00:04:53,166 --> 00:04:55,966 ♪ And I went down to the demonstration ♪ 106 00:04:56,046 --> 00:04:58,406 And you just can rely on him. 107 00:04:58,486 --> 00:05:03,567 ♪ To get my fair share of abuse ♪ 108 00:05:03,647 --> 00:05:08,647 ♪ Singing, we're gonna vent our temptation ♪ 109 00:05:09,007 --> 00:05:13,208 ♪ And if we don't we're gonna blow a fifty-amp fuse ♪ 110 00:05:13,288 --> 00:05:14,608 ♪ Sing it to me ♪ 111 00:05:14,688 --> 00:05:19,168 - He's more of a controller and an organizer than he knows. 112 00:05:19,248 --> 00:05:22,649 It's just what he is built to do. 113 00:05:22,729 --> 00:05:25,769 He wants to see this ship sail. 114 00:05:25,849 --> 00:05:29,409 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 115 00:05:29,489 --> 00:05:34,490 - I'm not a control freak, that must be really boring. 116 00:05:35,850 --> 00:05:37,610 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 117 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:41,771 Someone has to be in control of an enterprise like this, 118 00:05:41,851 --> 00:05:43,731 it's not only about music. 119 00:05:43,811 --> 00:05:47,171 I'm representing the bands in a way 120 00:05:47,251 --> 00:05:49,931 to make sure that they don't get fucked. 121 00:05:50,012 --> 00:05:54,812 (gentle music) (crowd cheering) 122 00:05:54,892 --> 00:05:57,292 - [Narrator] Mick Jagger has fronted the Rolling Stones 123 00:05:57,372 --> 00:05:59,372 for more than half a century. 124 00:06:03,773 --> 00:06:08,093 - I had several neighbors in my little suburban community 125 00:06:08,173 --> 00:06:10,054 who played guitar and so on. 126 00:06:10,134 --> 00:06:12,174 We played together, and I used to go 127 00:06:12,254 --> 00:06:16,654 to these dances I suppose they were, 128 00:06:16,734 --> 00:06:20,175 and there'd be rather greasy bands playing. 129 00:06:20,255 --> 00:06:24,175 And I'd ask could I come, and I was like 15, 16, 130 00:06:24,255 --> 00:06:26,535 "Can I sing a song?" 131 00:06:26,615 --> 00:06:27,735 And they were, yeah, they were nice, 132 00:06:27,815 --> 00:06:29,415 and they'd say, "Yeah, go on then." 133 00:06:29,495 --> 00:06:34,216 ♪ Well you got me running baby, got me hiding too ♪ 134 00:06:34,296 --> 00:06:38,456 ♪ Tell me, tell me baby, what we gonna do ♪ 135 00:06:38,536 --> 00:06:40,457 ♪ Now baby ♪ 136 00:06:40,537 --> 00:06:42,817 And it used to go down quite well. 137 00:06:42,897 --> 00:06:45,657 So, I used to think well, yeah, I can do this. 138 00:06:45,737 --> 00:06:47,377 And people seemed to like me. 139 00:06:47,457 --> 00:06:49,937 I mean I didn't have a band. 140 00:06:50,018 --> 00:06:52,298 - [Narrator] The Stones formed in 1962. 141 00:06:52,378 --> 00:06:55,018 And the first classic line-up soon takes shape. 142 00:06:56,058 --> 00:07:01,059 Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman 143 00:07:01,859 --> 00:07:04,699 and the band's founder, Brian Jones. 144 00:07:04,779 --> 00:07:07,179 And this song "Honey, What's Wrong?" 145 00:07:07,259 --> 00:07:09,259 is from their first ever demo. 146 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:12,460 (gentle music) 147 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:13,860 (crowd cheering) 148 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:18,940 ♪ Well now, don't treat me baby, like you used to do ♪ 149 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:24,981 (crowd cheering) (gentle music) 150 00:07:27,541 --> 00:07:30,782 - A lot of stuff with this Rolling Stones mythology 151 00:07:30,862 --> 00:07:33,982 is that Rolling Stones is this blues band 152 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:37,062 and started off, and it's all true, 153 00:07:37,142 --> 00:07:39,382 but really the Rolling Stones is a rock band. 154 00:07:39,462 --> 00:07:41,983 It's all bullshit, the mythology. 155 00:07:42,063 --> 00:07:45,823 Rock music was the thing, we loved rock music from the '50s, 156 00:07:45,903 --> 00:07:48,343 records like "Sweet Little Sixteen," Chuck Berry. 157 00:07:49,383 --> 00:07:51,944 We were kids and we were high energy. 158 00:07:52,024 --> 00:07:54,584 What we were popular for was playing this rock music, 159 00:07:54,664 --> 00:07:56,664 that's what we did. 160 00:07:56,744 --> 00:08:01,745 But you had to label yourself as a blues band to get a gig. 161 00:08:04,745 --> 00:08:08,665 We weren't really only just a blues band, 162 00:08:08,745 --> 00:08:10,706 we were an everything band. 163 00:08:10,786 --> 00:08:13,506 (crowd cheering) 164 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:19,226 - [Narrator] It takes the Stones 165 00:08:19,306 --> 00:08:22,027 just a few months to blow up in the UK 166 00:08:22,107 --> 00:08:26,907 with a sound and image ready for almost instant fame. 167 00:08:26,987 --> 00:08:29,467 (gentle music) 168 00:08:29,547 --> 00:08:31,468 - [Journalist] What's it like being a Stone 169 00:08:31,548 --> 00:08:34,308 and having this 24 hours a day? 170 00:08:34,388 --> 00:08:35,948 - Well, it's something that you get used to, 171 00:08:36,028 --> 00:08:36,828 especially as we've been doing it for, 172 00:08:36,908 --> 00:08:40,429 with all the screaming thing, for about two years now. 173 00:08:40,509 --> 00:08:42,309 And after two years of it 174 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:43,949 that just becomes part of your life. 175 00:08:44,029 --> 00:08:46,549 - [Patrick] I remember talking to Mick once 176 00:08:46,629 --> 00:08:49,069 and I said what's it like to be famous, 177 00:08:49,149 --> 00:08:52,270 and he said you're not really asking the right person 178 00:08:52,350 --> 00:08:54,950 because I've been famous ever since I was 17. 179 00:08:55,870 --> 00:08:58,190 - [Narrator] From their very first UK number one 180 00:08:58,270 --> 00:08:59,470 and its follow-up, 181 00:08:59,550 --> 00:09:02,431 this cover of Willie Dixon's "Little Red Rooster," 182 00:09:02,511 --> 00:09:05,271 the rise of the Stones is rapid. 183 00:09:05,351 --> 00:09:07,711 Part of a revolution in British pop 184 00:09:07,791 --> 00:09:10,272 that takes place on screen. 185 00:09:10,352 --> 00:09:13,552 ♪ I am the little red rooster ♪ 186 00:09:13,632 --> 00:09:18,632 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 187 00:09:23,073 --> 00:09:26,313 ♪ I am the little red rooster ♪ 188 00:09:26,393 --> 00:09:29,793 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 189 00:09:29,873 --> 00:09:33,834 - Television, it's hugely important. 190 00:09:33,914 --> 00:09:36,674 Millions of people would watch these shows. 191 00:09:36,754 --> 00:09:40,675 When I was a teenager, there was a couple of rock shows, 192 00:09:40,755 --> 00:09:41,875 but you would never miss that show 193 00:09:41,955 --> 00:09:43,915 because it was the only rock show a week. 194 00:09:43,995 --> 00:09:46,915 - [Lulu] It is a fact, the streets in this country 195 00:09:46,995 --> 00:09:49,235 would be empty on a Friday night 196 00:09:49,315 --> 00:09:53,476 because everyone was watching "Ready, Steady, Go!" 197 00:09:53,556 --> 00:09:55,556 - I could see how important this was. 198 00:09:56,516 --> 00:09:58,516 Everyone's watching this. 199 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,917 ♪ Hounds begin to howl ♪ 200 00:10:01,997 --> 00:10:05,477 That's gonna stand you out from all the other people, 201 00:10:05,557 --> 00:10:08,317 so you've got to learn to work that medium. 202 00:10:08,397 --> 00:10:11,398 You've got to figure out 203 00:10:11,478 --> 00:10:13,478 how you're gonna make an impression. 204 00:10:18,518 --> 00:10:23,679 ♪ If you see my little red rooster ♪ 205 00:10:23,759 --> 00:10:26,759 ♪ Please drive him home ♪ 206 00:10:26,839 --> 00:10:28,359 I used to go to "Ready, Steady, Go!" 207 00:10:28,439 --> 00:10:29,879 when we weren't even on. 208 00:10:29,959 --> 00:10:32,520 I would work out how the camera angles worked. 209 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 I would work out what we were gonna do. 210 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,001 ♪ Ain't had no peace in the farm yard ♪ 211 00:10:40,081 --> 00:10:43,201 ♪ Since my little red rooster's been gone ♪ 212 00:10:43,281 --> 00:10:47,481 And I'd practice my moves at home, and I would be rehearsed. 213 00:10:49,481 --> 00:10:52,322 (harmonica music) 214 00:10:55,602 --> 00:10:57,442 - [Narrator] But to really make it big in the UK 215 00:10:57,522 --> 00:11:01,163 and in America the Stones need more songs. 216 00:11:02,043 --> 00:11:03,243 Hit songs. 217 00:11:03,323 --> 00:11:05,323 And preferably written by them. 218 00:11:11,844 --> 00:11:15,444 - Andrew Oldham who was our manager at the time, 219 00:11:16,524 --> 00:11:20,285 said, you've got to start writing songs like the Beatles 220 00:11:20,365 --> 00:11:22,805 because we can't just keep doing cover songs. 221 00:11:22,885 --> 00:11:27,365 We knew we had to be a pop band, 222 00:11:28,445 --> 00:11:30,566 we wanted to write pop songs. 223 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:35,606 - I mean Andrew wasn't particularly talented 224 00:11:35,686 --> 00:11:39,286 in any direction, Andrew was just Andrew. 225 00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:44,327 And what Andrew did was saw possibilities. 226 00:11:44,407 --> 00:11:46,647 - [Narrator] It's song writing that turns the Stones 227 00:11:46,727 --> 00:11:49,207 into global superstars. 228 00:11:49,287 --> 00:11:54,248 And the writers of the hits are Keith and Mick, not Brian. 229 00:11:54,328 --> 00:11:57,248 - Good, let me get up here and say hi to Brian. 230 00:11:57,328 --> 00:12:00,969 Brian is one of the writers of most of the things, right? 231 00:12:01,049 --> 00:12:03,769 - No, I'm not actually, well, I'm not really a writer. 232 00:12:03,849 --> 00:12:04,809 - He was very musical 233 00:12:04,889 --> 00:12:07,289 so he could pick up different instruments, 234 00:12:07,369 --> 00:12:09,929 and he was quite innovative. 235 00:12:10,010 --> 00:12:12,370 A lot of his contributions were matched 236 00:12:12,450 --> 00:12:15,610 perhaps not from melodies or lyrics or anything 237 00:12:15,690 --> 00:12:19,690 but were from licks that he played as a musician. 238 00:12:19,770 --> 00:12:22,051 - Mick and Keith write more than any of us. 239 00:12:22,891 --> 00:12:23,891 - These are the two that are supposed 240 00:12:23,971 --> 00:12:25,491 to be all the writing talent. 241 00:12:25,571 --> 00:12:27,491 You fellas get together and do most of the writing, right? 242 00:12:27,571 --> 00:12:28,451 - Yeah, that's right, yeah. 243 00:12:28,531 --> 00:12:31,052 - I mean, yeah, he liked to tell people it was his band, 244 00:12:31,132 --> 00:12:34,372 but we were always like, really? 245 00:12:34,452 --> 00:12:36,252 Really, it's your band? 246 00:12:36,332 --> 00:12:38,332 We thought it was our band really. 247 00:12:38,972 --> 00:12:41,533 - The future as a Rolling Stone is very uncertain. 248 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:44,053 - [Narrator] It's Jagger and Richards 249 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:47,013 who will soon give their friends Lennon and McCartney 250 00:12:47,093 --> 00:12:48,733 a run for their money. 251 00:12:48,813 --> 00:12:51,214 - If you listen to all popular songs 10 years ago 252 00:12:51,294 --> 00:12:54,254 there were very few of them actually mean anything 253 00:12:54,334 --> 00:12:57,334 or have any relation to what people are doing. 254 00:12:58,294 --> 00:12:59,654 The songs didn't have any relation 255 00:12:59,734 --> 00:13:02,055 to what people actually spend their lives doing, 256 00:13:02,135 --> 00:13:05,295 like getting up, washing, going to work, coming back 257 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:07,975 and feeling very screwed up about certain things. 258 00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:11,016 - [Brian] Life for the working guy never changed. 259 00:13:11,096 --> 00:13:13,136 You still lived in a council house, 260 00:13:13,216 --> 00:13:14,896 you still had to pay your rent 261 00:13:14,976 --> 00:13:17,776 and then you hear dah-dah, dah-dah-dah. 262 00:13:19,136 --> 00:13:22,297 (gentle music) 263 00:13:22,377 --> 00:13:25,097 (crowd cheering) 264 00:13:26,537 --> 00:13:28,137 I remember the first time I heard it, 265 00:13:28,217 --> 00:13:31,178 and I just went "What the hell is that?" 266 00:13:32,298 --> 00:13:37,298 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 267 00:13:38,258 --> 00:13:43,259 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 268 00:13:43,779 --> 00:13:48,779 ♪ 'Cause I try, and I try, and I try, and I try ♪ 269 00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:55,260 ♪ I can't get no, I can't get no ♪ 270 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:57,340 ♪ When I'm driving ♪ 271 00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:59,860 - [Mick] There's this pool and there's this motel 272 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:02,901 in Clearwater, Florida, and I remember sitting with Keith 273 00:14:02,981 --> 00:14:05,461 and writing this song "Satisfaction." 274 00:14:05,541 --> 00:14:06,301 Andrew Oldham said, 275 00:14:06,381 --> 00:14:08,781 "This is like a number one single, this is great." 276 00:14:08,861 --> 00:14:10,982 Keith was like, "I don't really like it, 277 00:14:11,062 --> 00:14:12,982 it can't come out as a single." 278 00:14:13,062 --> 00:14:15,262 And it went to number one instantly. 279 00:14:15,342 --> 00:14:18,542 ♪ Oh, no, no, no ♪ 280 00:14:18,622 --> 00:14:20,783 ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 281 00:14:20,863 --> 00:14:24,623 It was a big moment, it became your signature tune, 282 00:14:24,703 --> 00:14:29,263 your cri de coeur, your sexuality, your controversy. 283 00:14:29,343 --> 00:14:32,704 You need to have that song that everyone remembers. 284 00:14:32,784 --> 00:14:37,984 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 285 00:14:38,064 --> 00:14:39,184 ♪ 'Cause I try, and I try ♪ 286 00:14:39,264 --> 00:14:41,145 - [Brian] It turned everybody on. 287 00:14:41,225 --> 00:14:43,425 It was just a brilliant song. 288 00:14:43,505 --> 00:14:46,345 Those boys were building a new road to the future. 289 00:14:47,465 --> 00:14:48,985 - [Mick] It makes a huge change 290 00:14:49,065 --> 00:14:52,786 and it also brings you into a much more confident era 291 00:14:52,866 --> 00:14:55,986 of writing, production, all this stuff. 292 00:14:56,826 --> 00:14:57,626 - [Andy] Wait a minute. 293 00:14:57,706 --> 00:15:00,947 There's at least 15 huge hit songs here, 294 00:15:01,027 --> 00:15:04,427 "Paint It, Black," "Ruby Tuesday," "Get Off of My Cloud," 295 00:15:04,507 --> 00:15:05,947 "Under My Thumb." 296 00:15:06,027 --> 00:15:09,987 Christ, most bands would be happy to get one of those. 297 00:15:10,068 --> 00:15:12,748 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 298 00:15:12,828 --> 00:15:15,588 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 299 00:15:19,668 --> 00:15:20,989 (crowd cheering) 300 00:15:21,069 --> 00:15:25,669 - [Mick] Behind it is the cynicism and reality 301 00:15:25,749 --> 00:15:29,189 of all the blues things that I'd been listening to 302 00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:31,590 since I was very young, very, very young, 303 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:33,590 and there's a way of speaking 304 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:36,270 and a way of talking about life, 305 00:15:36,350 --> 00:15:38,910 and a way of being sexually round about 306 00:15:38,990 --> 00:15:41,391 but sexually provocative. 307 00:15:42,591 --> 00:15:44,071 - [PP] Mick is sexy. 308 00:15:44,151 --> 00:15:46,231 And he knew he was sexy. 309 00:15:46,311 --> 00:15:47,031 Confident. 310 00:15:47,111 --> 00:15:49,871 And he was so cool. 311 00:15:49,951 --> 00:15:51,672 He's got those lips. 312 00:15:51,752 --> 00:15:53,912 And for me, I love to kiss, 313 00:15:53,992 --> 00:15:56,552 so I was a-kissing him, you know what I mean? 314 00:15:57,472 --> 00:16:00,353 - [Lulu] I do remember meeting him, I'm 15. 315 00:16:00,433 --> 00:16:03,793 I was slightly wary. 316 00:16:03,873 --> 00:16:05,873 And Mick went "Allo, Lulu." 317 00:16:05,953 --> 00:16:08,153 And I tried to string a few words together 318 00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:09,633 and I believe I spoke to him. 319 00:16:09,713 --> 00:16:11,954 I don't really know that I said very much 320 00:16:12,034 --> 00:16:16,194 or could even engage properly in a conversation. 321 00:16:16,274 --> 00:16:18,034 I was frightened, I was afraid of him. 322 00:16:18,114 --> 00:16:23,115 All that sexual image, it oozed, it was scary. 323 00:16:24,675 --> 00:16:26,035 (Lulu giggles) 324 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:28,115 Exciting and scary. 325 00:16:28,995 --> 00:16:31,356 - [Don] For some reason Mick Jagger's got this thing 326 00:16:31,436 --> 00:16:36,276 whereas he can project that wild animal that's in all of us. 327 00:16:36,356 --> 00:16:39,996 It's like yeah, that's who we are. 328 00:16:40,077 --> 00:16:44,077 You celebrate the true nature of the human being 329 00:16:44,157 --> 00:16:46,157 when you look at Mick Jagger. 330 00:16:48,157 --> 00:16:49,077 (Little Richard shouting) 331 00:16:49,157 --> 00:16:50,438 (crowd shouting) 332 00:16:50,518 --> 00:16:51,558 (Little Richard shouting) 333 00:16:51,638 --> 00:16:53,198 (crowd shouting) 334 00:16:53,278 --> 00:16:55,798 - [Mick] When it came to how to present myself on stage 335 00:16:55,878 --> 00:16:59,038 and everything, I really didn't know how to do that. 336 00:16:59,998 --> 00:17:01,279 - I wanna sing a song. 337 00:17:01,359 --> 00:17:02,559 I want everybody to raise your hand. 338 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:04,359 Everybody raise your hand, come on. 339 00:17:04,439 --> 00:17:05,919 - [Mick] Little Richard literally taught me 340 00:17:05,999 --> 00:17:06,759 how to do this stuff. 341 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:09,159 He would say oh, you've got to get them involved. 342 00:17:09,239 --> 00:17:10,960 You've got to get them standing up, 343 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,560 if they're not standing up, telling them, 344 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,960 you've got to tell them to stand up. 345 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,480 - Everybody say we're all right. 346 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,280 - [Crowd] We're all right. 347 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,440 - And they would. 348 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,961 ♪ You ♪ 349 00:17:24,041 --> 00:17:26,401 ♪ You ♪ 350 00:17:26,481 --> 00:17:28,481 ♪ You ♪ 351 00:17:29,961 --> 00:17:32,682 When I was on stage you feel it very strongly 352 00:17:32,762 --> 00:17:35,442 these people giving you this energy, 353 00:17:36,322 --> 00:17:38,602 and you don't really understand, you just feel it, 354 00:17:38,682 --> 00:17:40,483 you don't understand really what they're trying to say, 355 00:17:40,563 --> 00:17:42,883 what they want, what they need from you, 356 00:17:42,963 --> 00:17:44,763 what they need from life. 357 00:17:44,843 --> 00:17:46,963 But you just feel that they need something, 358 00:17:47,043 --> 00:17:49,283 and they're giving it to you. 359 00:17:50,124 --> 00:17:53,564 - He knows what he wants and you know when he knows 360 00:17:53,644 --> 00:17:56,324 'cause he starts to respond and he starts to sing 361 00:17:56,404 --> 00:17:57,404 and he starts to move. 362 00:17:57,484 --> 00:17:58,644 And vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom. 363 00:17:58,724 --> 00:18:01,925 And then he starts, yeah, really enjoy life. 364 00:18:02,765 --> 00:18:04,005 - [Patrick] I've heard Keith saying, 365 00:18:04,085 --> 00:18:05,685 on more than one occasion, 366 00:18:05,765 --> 00:18:08,125 about what a great performer Mick is. 367 00:18:08,205 --> 00:18:10,846 He can perform on a coffee table. 368 00:18:10,926 --> 00:18:13,286 He's really proud of his guy 369 00:18:13,366 --> 00:18:16,206 and he knows the responsibility that Mick takes on. 370 00:18:16,286 --> 00:18:18,086 It takes a lot of balls to stand up 371 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:20,167 and command an audience of 100,000 people. 372 00:18:23,527 --> 00:18:25,007 - You're not the same person on stage 373 00:18:25,087 --> 00:18:27,567 as you are in the rest of the time. 374 00:18:27,647 --> 00:18:30,368 You have to be very, very, very egotistical. 375 00:18:31,688 --> 00:18:34,368 I mean you're acting, you're doing an act for them, 376 00:18:34,448 --> 00:18:36,448 it's not really you. 377 00:18:36,848 --> 00:18:39,328 - [Journalist] What do you set out to do in your act? 378 00:18:42,249 --> 00:18:44,249 - Entertain people. 379 00:18:45,569 --> 00:18:47,769 The most successful entertainers 380 00:18:47,849 --> 00:18:50,930 have always been the most egotistical ones. 381 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:53,290 All that ego is got rid of on stage. 382 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:55,090 - [Journalist] What person do you think you are 383 00:18:55,170 --> 00:18:57,170 off the stage? 384 00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:59,570 - About half as egotistical. 385 00:18:59,650 --> 00:19:01,891 (crowd cheering) 386 00:19:01,971 --> 00:19:04,811 (Mick vocalizing) 387 00:19:07,731 --> 00:19:10,132 - [Brian] I think Mick Jagger has this wonderful gift, 388 00:19:10,212 --> 00:19:14,772 he can make a huge stadium seem like a small room 389 00:19:14,852 --> 00:19:16,812 and make everybody feel involved. 390 00:19:16,892 --> 00:19:18,572 And that's the secret. 391 00:19:18,652 --> 00:19:22,613 ♪ Everywhere I hear the sound of marching ♪ 392 00:19:22,693 --> 00:19:26,373 ♪ Charging feet, boy ♪ 393 00:19:26,453 --> 00:19:28,693 ♪ 'Cause summer's here and the time is right ♪ 394 00:19:28,773 --> 00:19:32,094 - [Lars] He'll always find a way to make even the biggest 395 00:19:32,174 --> 00:19:34,294 of the shows as intimate as possible. 396 00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:38,014 And obviously Mick Jagger does it incredibly well. 397 00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:40,615 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 398 00:19:40,695 --> 00:19:43,375 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 399 00:19:43,455 --> 00:19:46,855 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man ♪ 400 00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:50,456 - [Bernard] He works at it, he works hard at it, 401 00:19:50,536 --> 00:19:54,536 and he gets them hips going, and he gets them legs going. 402 00:19:54,616 --> 00:19:56,216 He's got his thing. 403 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:58,336 He dances his arse off. 404 00:19:59,216 --> 00:20:00,777 It ain't the latest dance move 405 00:20:00,857 --> 00:20:05,377 that everybody is trying to do, no, it's his dance, 406 00:20:05,457 --> 00:20:08,297 and he dances the shit outta his dance. 407 00:20:13,698 --> 00:20:16,578 ♪ Well, what can a poor boy do ♪ 408 00:20:16,658 --> 00:20:19,538 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 409 00:20:19,618 --> 00:20:22,379 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 410 00:20:22,459 --> 00:20:25,579 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man no ♪ 411 00:20:25,659 --> 00:20:26,979 - [Narrator] And Mick is taught 412 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:29,259 by some of the all-time greats. 413 00:20:30,260 --> 00:20:34,180 Many of whom share a stage with the Stones on tour. 414 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:38,260 - [Tina] He was watching me, just watching every move. 415 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:42,901 This white-faced person behind the speakers, 416 00:20:42,981 --> 00:20:45,861 just watching me while I was doing my thing. 417 00:20:46,901 --> 00:20:50,542 - [PP] Mick would always come backstage to the dressing-room 418 00:20:50,622 --> 00:20:54,862 and we would like show him moves and steps and things. 419 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:56,822 - [Tina] It was okay, 420 00:20:56,902 --> 00:21:00,583 but I didn't think he was gonna amount to anything. 421 00:21:00,663 --> 00:21:01,543 Sorry, Mick. 422 00:21:01,623 --> 00:21:04,343 (Tina chuckles) 423 00:21:04,423 --> 00:21:07,223 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 424 00:21:07,303 --> 00:21:10,344 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 425 00:21:10,424 --> 00:21:13,744 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man ♪ 426 00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:16,104 - [Chrissie] Really, in rock music it's about personality 427 00:21:16,184 --> 00:21:17,944 more than virtuosity. 428 00:21:18,024 --> 00:21:20,545 It's not what's best and it's not even what's good. 429 00:21:20,625 --> 00:21:22,865 If you want good go see a musical 430 00:21:22,945 --> 00:21:24,905 where they've all been trained to sing. 431 00:21:24,985 --> 00:21:26,465 I don't think people even think 432 00:21:26,545 --> 00:21:29,545 that Mick has a beautiful voice, it's just Mick Jagger. 433 00:21:32,026 --> 00:21:34,586 - [Lisa] I think he is a great dancer 434 00:21:34,666 --> 00:21:38,066 in the way that he expresses himself. 435 00:21:38,146 --> 00:21:43,147 It's like when you see a young child learning how to dance 436 00:21:45,147 --> 00:21:47,827 but they do it with so much heart you can't help 437 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:49,707 but embrace it. 438 00:21:49,787 --> 00:21:52,508 (Lisa giggles) 439 00:21:52,588 --> 00:21:57,148 The way that he dances, it is total belief 440 00:21:57,228 --> 00:22:00,789 and freedom of expression and individuality. 441 00:22:00,869 --> 00:22:03,269 (rock music) 442 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:21,631 (crowd cheering) 443 00:22:24,991 --> 00:22:27,911 - [Narrator] The transformation is complete. 444 00:22:27,991 --> 00:22:31,112 This is Mick Jagger, the charismatic front man. 445 00:22:31,952 --> 00:22:34,712 (crowd cheering) 446 00:22:35,792 --> 00:22:36,992 - [Reporter] And here's Michael wearing a pair 447 00:22:37,072 --> 00:22:39,712 of ordinary gym shoes which you would wear 448 00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:41,953 when you were playing tennis. 449 00:22:42,033 --> 00:22:44,233 - [Narrator] And this is Mike Jagger 450 00:22:44,313 --> 00:22:46,313 just a few years earlier. 451 00:22:47,153 --> 00:22:50,794 A swotty, sporty schoolboy with academic ambitions 452 00:22:51,754 --> 00:22:54,274 and his sight set on higher things. 453 00:22:56,194 --> 00:22:58,634 - I'm working hard at my school work. 454 00:22:58,714 --> 00:23:00,435 I'm quite academic. 455 00:23:00,515 --> 00:23:04,595 I wanna go to university so I can't just fuck about. 456 00:23:04,675 --> 00:23:05,755 - You spent I think two years 457 00:23:05,835 --> 00:23:07,915 at the London School of Economics. 458 00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:09,155 - Yes, I've been trying 459 00:23:09,235 --> 00:23:11,316 to unlearn everything I learnt ever since, 460 00:23:11,396 --> 00:23:14,116 but I think I've almost succeeded. 461 00:23:14,196 --> 00:23:16,676 - [Journalist] Would you ever thing of going back there? 462 00:23:16,756 --> 00:23:18,676 - No, no, I don't think so. 463 00:23:18,756 --> 00:23:19,996 I didn't like it there very much. 464 00:23:20,077 --> 00:23:20,837 - [Journalist] What didn't you like 465 00:23:20,917 --> 00:23:23,037 about that academic learning? 466 00:23:23,117 --> 00:23:25,957 - I wasn't given any freedom. 467 00:23:27,637 --> 00:23:30,078 - [Narrator] But Mick is about to discover 468 00:23:30,158 --> 00:23:33,998 that freedom can have consequences he can't always control. 469 00:23:34,918 --> 00:23:36,718 He's on his way to Redlands, 470 00:23:36,798 --> 00:23:40,679 the new country residence of Mr. Keith Richards. 471 00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:41,519 (gentle music) 472 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:44,319 - [Mick] "Dear Mick, do come to a lovely party 473 00:23:44,399 --> 00:23:46,079 in Redlands, acid provided." 474 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:47,439 I don't think that was on the invitation, 475 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,039 but I can't remember. 476 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Keith might remember because he had to buy the acid. 477 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,320 He'd just got Redlands and he'd done it up 478 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,760 and he wanted everyone to see it, 479 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,160 like as you do you know what I mean, 480 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,240 as he'd done up a nice house in the country 481 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,241 and you want everyone to come for a weekend. 482 00:24:02,321 --> 00:24:05,601 It was quite a Bohemian weekend really. 483 00:24:05,681 --> 00:24:07,201 We went for a nice walk. 484 00:24:07,281 --> 00:24:09,441 (upbeat music) 485 00:24:09,521 --> 00:24:12,882 ♪ She comes in colors everywhere ♪ 486 00:24:12,962 --> 00:24:16,522 And there was a lot of drugs there, LSD, hash. 487 00:24:16,602 --> 00:24:18,482 We were just having fun. 488 00:24:18,562 --> 00:24:20,403 And then the fuzz bust him, man. 489 00:24:20,483 --> 00:24:23,123 (Mick giggles) 490 00:24:25,283 --> 00:24:27,883 When you're on acid being busted it's very odd. 491 00:24:27,963 --> 00:24:30,684 It's not fun being busted at all, 492 00:24:30,764 --> 00:24:33,684 but being busted on acid is really weird. 493 00:24:33,764 --> 00:24:35,644 - [Keith] They were breaking in my house. 494 00:24:35,724 --> 00:24:37,044 - [Mick] The police were against you. 495 00:24:37,124 --> 00:24:39,244 - [Keith] Unnecessary authority. 496 00:24:39,324 --> 00:24:41,245 - [Mick] The Establishment was against you. 497 00:24:41,325 --> 00:24:43,765 - [Keith] I always felt that they were picking on me. 498 00:24:43,845 --> 00:24:45,205 - [Mick] Man, they're all against us, 499 00:24:45,285 --> 00:24:47,005 they wanna shut us down. 500 00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:49,485 - [Keith] But of course that only reinforced my wariness 501 00:24:49,565 --> 00:24:51,166 of authority. 502 00:24:51,246 --> 00:24:54,246 - [Mick] What they're trying to do is close the Stones down. 503 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:55,406 (Mick giggles) 504 00:24:55,486 --> 00:24:57,486 - I still carry a chip. 505 00:24:58,686 --> 00:25:01,007 Yeah, I could use a joint right now. 506 00:25:01,087 --> 00:25:03,647 (Keith laughs) 507 00:25:05,247 --> 00:25:07,327 - [Narrator] But it's no laughing matter. 508 00:25:07,407 --> 00:25:10,768 The arrests steered the Stones into a storm of controversy. 509 00:25:12,288 --> 00:25:13,128 - [Brian] Drugs raid. 510 00:25:13,208 --> 00:25:14,488 Jagger arrest. 511 00:25:14,568 --> 00:25:17,008 Keith Richards being arrested. 512 00:25:17,088 --> 00:25:22,049 It was all adding to this whole idea of this rebel outfit. 513 00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:23,489 - [Mick] The first reaction is oh, my God, 514 00:25:23,569 --> 00:25:26,009 what am I gonna do and what does my mum think. 515 00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:29,009 Because they say that you can go to prison for five years. 516 00:25:29,089 --> 00:25:30,690 You have now been derailed 517 00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:35,210 from your amusing life of a pop singer. 518 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:39,810 It takes the emphasis off your career and achievements. 519 00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:41,931 It makes you a group of drug addicts 520 00:25:42,011 --> 00:25:44,211 rather than a talented group of musicians. 521 00:25:45,651 --> 00:25:48,011 - [Narrator] But the band have always risked falling victim 522 00:25:48,091 --> 00:25:50,092 to their bad boy image, 523 00:25:50,532 --> 00:25:53,932 the invention of their manager Andrew Loog Oldham. 524 00:25:55,492 --> 00:25:58,092 - I think that Andrew very much liked 525 00:25:58,172 --> 00:26:00,093 to contrive the danger, 526 00:26:00,173 --> 00:26:04,653 'cause he saw that very cleverly as a foil for the Beatles. 527 00:26:04,733 --> 00:26:06,893 - They got cleaned up by their manager 528 00:26:06,973 --> 00:26:10,694 and to make them more palatable to the public, 529 00:26:10,774 --> 00:26:13,574 otherwise they were exactly the same as we were, 530 00:26:13,654 --> 00:26:15,654 filthy swine. 531 00:26:16,014 --> 00:26:17,134 (Keith giggles) 532 00:26:17,214 --> 00:26:20,295 - But Brian Epstein didn't wanna sell them as such. 533 00:26:20,375 --> 00:26:24,095 He sold them as these lovable scamps and funny 534 00:26:24,175 --> 00:26:27,775 and could be sarcastic but, nevertheless, lovable. 535 00:26:27,855 --> 00:26:32,856 So Andrew wanted us to be more nasty and more dirty, 536 00:26:34,736 --> 00:26:38,496 more of an edge, which was a very good sell 537 00:26:38,576 --> 00:26:40,897 and it wasn't difficult for us to do 538 00:26:40,977 --> 00:26:43,137 because when you're that age it's quite easy 539 00:26:43,217 --> 00:26:44,177 to have that edge. 540 00:26:44,257 --> 00:26:46,417 (Mick giggles) 541 00:26:46,497 --> 00:26:47,337 - [Reporter] The gentlemen of the press 542 00:26:47,417 --> 00:26:48,737 have been kept waiting. 543 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:51,698 Mick Jagger is half an hour late for his press conference. 544 00:26:51,778 --> 00:26:53,498 His fine contempt for convention 545 00:26:53,578 --> 00:26:55,178 seems to irritate journalists. 546 00:26:55,258 --> 00:26:56,138 - [Reporter] So you think he'll be coming 547 00:26:56,218 --> 00:26:57,818 into a hostile audience? 548 00:26:57,898 --> 00:26:59,258 - I would imagine so, yes. 549 00:26:59,338 --> 00:27:02,099 - Journalists would be very patronizing. 550 00:27:04,859 --> 00:27:05,939 Morning! 551 00:27:06,019 --> 00:27:06,779 - [Journalist] Good morning. 552 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,059 - [Journalist] Good afternoon. 553 00:27:08,139 --> 00:27:10,019 - [Reporter] What do you think of him? 554 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,220 - Oh, he does a damn good job of what he wants to do, 555 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,860 which is to be a paid exhibitionist 556 00:27:14,940 --> 00:27:15,700 and he makes a lot of money 557 00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:17,580 and laughs all the way to the bank as Liberace said. 558 00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:19,060 - [Journalist] Do you like press conferences? 559 00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:20,060 - No. 560 00:27:20,141 --> 00:27:20,901 (all giggle) 561 00:27:20,981 --> 00:27:21,981 - [Journalist] And why not? 562 00:27:22,061 --> 00:27:25,581 - Oh, I really like to keep myself to myself. 563 00:27:25,661 --> 00:27:27,701 I always remember one point 564 00:27:27,781 --> 00:27:29,621 where Brian used the word 565 00:27:29,701 --> 00:27:32,982 in a stupid press conference, esoteric. 566 00:27:33,062 --> 00:27:35,782 "It's a bit esoteric really." 567 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,382 And he'd use the word eclectic quite a lot as well. 568 00:27:38,462 --> 00:27:40,062 They were so shocked. 569 00:27:40,143 --> 00:27:41,743 And we would obviously tease them 570 00:27:41,823 --> 00:27:43,703 and behave like yobs as well. 571 00:27:43,783 --> 00:27:46,423 So they knew what to expect. 572 00:27:46,503 --> 00:27:48,503 If you wanna follow up in TV journalism 573 00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:50,784 what rubbish they dish up in the press 574 00:27:50,864 --> 00:27:52,344 then you're pretty low. 575 00:27:52,424 --> 00:27:53,544 (journalist speaking indistinctly) 576 00:27:53,624 --> 00:27:55,504 So watch out boy. 577 00:27:55,584 --> 00:27:59,504 One half of you is the yob and the other half is saying 578 00:27:59,584 --> 00:28:01,705 well, yeah, we also know what we're talking about. 579 00:28:01,785 --> 00:28:03,505 - [Journalist] Mick Jagger needs the reporters 580 00:28:03,585 --> 00:28:05,265 and the reporters need him. 581 00:28:05,345 --> 00:28:07,665 A sort of love/hate relationship. 582 00:28:07,745 --> 00:28:11,306 - The press can be savage so you have to be very careful. 583 00:28:13,906 --> 00:28:15,386 - [Narrator] In fact, the News of the World 584 00:28:15,466 --> 00:28:18,226 helped them get busted in the first place. 585 00:28:18,306 --> 00:28:19,986 But in a famous editorial, 586 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,467 that bastion of the Establishment, The Times, 587 00:28:22,547 --> 00:28:24,547 actually sticks up for them. 588 00:28:25,027 --> 00:28:26,827 Arguing that artistes should not be crushed 589 00:28:26,907 --> 00:28:30,108 by the law and the law listens. 590 00:28:30,188 --> 00:28:31,668 - [Mick] There was obviously a collusion 591 00:28:31,748 --> 00:28:34,148 between the police and the newspaper, 592 00:28:34,228 --> 00:28:36,468 but I mean that's not questioned. 593 00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:39,948 But I was freed from jail by the Establishment. 594 00:28:40,028 --> 00:28:41,629 - [Reporter] It's years since such crowds gathered 595 00:28:41,709 --> 00:28:43,269 to await an appeal verdict. 596 00:28:43,349 --> 00:28:44,869 But this was a Rolling Stones case 597 00:28:44,949 --> 00:28:46,709 with the fans out in force. 598 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:48,949 When Mick Jagger was conditionally discharged 599 00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:51,030 and Keith Richards sentenced twice, 600 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:52,430 the pop idols drove off, 601 00:28:52,510 --> 00:28:54,670 the shadow of jail no longer over them. 602 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:57,910 - [Reporter] Earlier today, 603 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:59,750 Mick Jagger talked briefly to a press conference 604 00:28:59,830 --> 00:29:01,831 after the Lord Chief Justice Lord Parker 605 00:29:01,911 --> 00:29:03,671 had quashed his three-month prison sentence 606 00:29:03,751 --> 00:29:05,311 for possessing amphetamine tablets. 607 00:29:05,391 --> 00:29:08,551 - [Mick] It was a complete waste of everybody's time. 608 00:29:08,631 --> 00:29:10,632 Bollocks basically. 609 00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,472 - [Reporter] Publicity since the case has shown up a split 610 00:29:15,552 --> 00:29:17,512 between the society which resents the anarchy 611 00:29:17,592 --> 00:29:18,992 of people like the Stones 612 00:29:19,072 --> 00:29:21,953 and that which favors greater individual freedom. 613 00:29:22,033 --> 00:29:26,153 - [Mick] It had ramifications far beyond just a drug bust. 614 00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:28,433 It had a lot of social implications. 615 00:29:28,513 --> 00:29:30,754 What's wrong with people smoking drugs. 616 00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:32,874 This is when this first came up. 617 00:29:32,954 --> 00:29:34,954 This became a big discussion. 618 00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:40,034 - [Journalist] You're often taken as a symbol of rebellion. 619 00:29:40,115 --> 00:29:44,155 Do you think that the society that you live in 620 00:29:44,235 --> 00:29:45,675 is one you ought to rebel against 621 00:29:45,755 --> 00:29:47,635 or do you think you're rebelling against it? 622 00:29:47,715 --> 00:29:49,795 - Yes, definitely rebelling against it. 623 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:52,916 (upbeat music) 624 00:29:52,996 --> 00:29:57,996 ♪ I was born in a cross-fire hurricane ♪ 625 00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:04,757 ♪ And I howled at my ma in the driving rain ♪ 626 00:30:06,877 --> 00:30:11,878 ♪ But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas ♪ 627 00:30:13,798 --> 00:30:18,798 ♪ But it's all right, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash ♪ 628 00:30:19,558 --> 00:30:21,119 ♪ It's a gas, gas, gas ♪ 629 00:30:21,199 --> 00:30:22,679 Kids are looking for something else 630 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,239 or some different moral value. 631 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,839 The whole basis of society and values 632 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:31,200 which were accepted could be changed, 633 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,800 but it's up to them to carry on those ideals that they have 634 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,320 instead of just falling into the same old routine 635 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,561 that their parents have fallen into. 636 00:30:43,321 --> 00:30:48,321 ♪ But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas ♪ 637 00:30:50,162 --> 00:30:55,162 ♪ But it's all right, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash ♪ 638 00:30:55,722 --> 00:30:57,482 ♪ It's a gas, gas, gas ♪ 639 00:30:57,562 --> 00:30:59,562 The violence of the Vietnam War 640 00:30:59,642 --> 00:31:02,403 is what is causing a blow-back 641 00:31:02,483 --> 00:31:05,043 of the violence in the street, right, 642 00:31:05,123 --> 00:31:09,563 because the violence in the street is a direct consequence 643 00:31:09,643 --> 00:31:12,804 of the Vietnam War, and that gives 644 00:31:12,884 --> 00:31:15,124 or causes a right to violence 645 00:31:15,204 --> 00:31:18,964 because the State is perpetrating the violence 646 00:31:19,044 --> 00:31:21,045 on other people big time. 647 00:31:21,885 --> 00:31:24,445 (gentle music) 648 00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:26,885 (whistle blows) 649 00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:28,205 - [Reporter] At Grosvenor Square police waited 650 00:31:28,285 --> 00:31:29,645 for the marchers to arrive. 651 00:31:29,725 --> 00:31:31,766 They'd been told there'd be no violence. 652 00:31:31,846 --> 00:31:33,846 Sincerely, they hope so. 653 00:31:35,006 --> 00:31:37,286 - [Narrator] 1968 was a turbulent year. 654 00:31:40,006 --> 00:31:42,007 And Mick is in the thick of it. 655 00:31:43,367 --> 00:31:44,327 - If you wanna demonstrate, 656 00:31:44,407 --> 00:31:46,247 we have to meet them on their own ground. 657 00:31:46,327 --> 00:31:49,287 If they wanna use horses, we'll have 10,000 people on horses 658 00:31:49,367 --> 00:31:50,568 and see what they do. 659 00:31:50,648 --> 00:31:51,408 That I love. 660 00:31:51,488 --> 00:31:53,528 And that's what I thought when I was there, 661 00:31:53,608 --> 00:31:55,768 that's what it should have been. 662 00:31:55,848 --> 00:31:58,648 I couldn't believe how vicious the police were, 663 00:31:58,728 --> 00:32:00,529 that was the scaring thing. 664 00:32:00,609 --> 00:32:03,289 The mounted police just chasing at people 665 00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:06,769 with their horses in the middle of Grosvenor Square. 666 00:32:06,849 --> 00:32:08,129 Really scary. 667 00:32:08,209 --> 00:32:10,450 (crowd shouting) 668 00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:14,370 There was nothing going on violent from the crowd at all. 669 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:16,050 It was pretty peaceful. 670 00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:18,250 And the police made it not peaceful. 671 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:19,930 That's what I remember. 672 00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:22,571 - [Narrator] As 1968 thunders on, 673 00:32:22,651 --> 00:32:26,851 Mick writes a song that peers into the heart of darkness. 674 00:32:29,611 --> 00:32:32,212 (gentle music) 675 00:32:36,572 --> 00:32:39,892 ♪ Please let me introduce myself ♪ 676 00:32:39,972 --> 00:32:44,973 ♪ I'm a man of wealth and taste ♪ 677 00:32:45,613 --> 00:32:49,853 ♪ I've been around for many a long, long years ♪ 678 00:32:49,933 --> 00:32:54,774 ♪ Stole million man's soul and faith ♪ 679 00:32:54,854 --> 00:32:58,974 ♪ And I was 'round when Jesus Christ ♪ 680 00:32:59,054 --> 00:33:01,375 ♪ Had his moment of doubt and pain ♪ 681 00:33:01,455 --> 00:33:02,535 - [Mick] When you involve religion, 682 00:33:02,615 --> 00:33:05,055 it always gives it an extra frisson. 683 00:33:05,135 --> 00:33:07,535 So it's obviously got religious overtones. 684 00:33:08,775 --> 00:33:10,856 When I wrote it I wasn't thinking 685 00:33:10,936 --> 00:33:13,176 of how provocative that was. 686 00:33:13,256 --> 00:33:14,936 - [Journalist] I had read all these things about you 687 00:33:15,016 --> 00:33:17,536 and some people call you the devil incarnate, 688 00:33:17,616 --> 00:33:19,696 I don't know who started that. 689 00:33:19,776 --> 00:33:21,777 British journalists and all. - Nor do I. 690 00:33:21,857 --> 00:33:23,057 (gentle music) 691 00:33:23,137 --> 00:33:24,977 ♪ Pleased to meet you ♪ 692 00:33:25,057 --> 00:33:30,057 ♪ Hope you guess my name ♪ 693 00:33:30,698 --> 00:33:33,018 ♪ But what's puzzling you ♪ 694 00:33:33,098 --> 00:33:36,658 ♪ Is the nature of my game ♪ 695 00:33:40,299 --> 00:33:41,019 - [Journalist] You're not this image 696 00:33:41,099 --> 00:33:42,179 that people have of Mick Jagger. 697 00:33:42,259 --> 00:33:43,499 - [Mick] I don't know what that is. 698 00:33:43,579 --> 00:33:45,299 - [Journalist] Well, it's a sort of sexy, evil, 699 00:33:45,379 --> 00:33:48,219 satanic, nice guy. - It can be nice/nasty, 700 00:33:48,299 --> 00:33:52,300 masculine/feminine, all those things. 701 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,380 And everyone is all those things. 702 00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:57,740 Try make it a bit more light. 703 00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,501 (Mick speaking indistinctly) 704 00:34:00,581 --> 00:34:02,261 (gentle music) 705 00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:05,661 - [Narrator] Reluctantly, Mick becomes a poster boy 706 00:34:05,741 --> 00:34:10,742 for a troubled era, with trouble followed by tragedy. 707 00:34:12,502 --> 00:34:15,102 (gentle music) 708 00:34:29,103 --> 00:34:32,024 (crowd chattering) 709 00:34:34,384 --> 00:34:38,424 - Okay, now listen, I really don't know how to do this sorta thing 710 00:34:38,504 --> 00:34:43,425 but I'm gonna try, just say a few words what I think I feel 711 00:34:43,505 --> 00:34:45,825 about Brian and I'm sure you do, 712 00:34:45,905 --> 00:34:49,625 and what we feel about him just going 713 00:34:49,705 --> 00:34:51,946 when we didn't expect him to. 714 00:34:52,026 --> 00:34:54,946 Okay, are you gonna be quiet or not? 715 00:34:57,186 --> 00:34:59,106 "Peace, peace. 716 00:34:59,186 --> 00:35:02,707 He is not dead, he does not sleep. 717 00:35:02,787 --> 00:35:05,507 He has awakened from the dreams of life. 718 00:35:05,587 --> 00:35:09,307 It's we that are lost in stormy visions 719 00:35:09,387 --> 00:35:12,708 and keep with phantoms and unprofitable strife. 720 00:35:13,908 --> 00:35:17,428 And in a mad trance we strike with a spirit's knife." 721 00:35:17,508 --> 00:35:20,989 (crowd clapping) 722 00:35:21,069 --> 00:35:23,069 All right. 723 00:35:23,629 --> 00:35:25,949 - [Narrator] Six months after Brian's death, 724 00:35:26,029 --> 00:35:29,109 another tragedy as a chaotic free concert 725 00:35:29,189 --> 00:35:32,230 in America ends in murder. 726 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,750 - Okay, it's definitely on. 727 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:39,230 They've decided now they're going to hold the concert 728 00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:41,311 at Altamont Speedway. 729 00:35:45,271 --> 00:35:47,551 - So in the '60s, I was only interested 730 00:35:47,631 --> 00:35:51,752 in being a good musician and a good performer and so on, 731 00:35:51,832 --> 00:35:55,352 I let other people do the control part of it, 732 00:35:55,432 --> 00:35:57,432 which was a mistake. 733 00:36:00,393 --> 00:36:01,953 Our tour manager said we're gonna do it 734 00:36:02,033 --> 00:36:04,033 in this place called Altamont, which I'd never heard of, 735 00:36:04,113 --> 00:36:05,473 I don't think anyone else had. 736 00:36:05,553 --> 00:36:08,033 He said it's all gonna be fine, it's San Francisco, 737 00:36:08,113 --> 00:36:11,314 you don't have to worry about it, it's peace and love. 738 00:36:11,394 --> 00:36:13,794 When we got there it was the antithesis of peace and love, 739 00:36:13,874 --> 00:36:16,514 it was a disastrous mess. 740 00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:19,834 The Hells Angels were the people doing the security. 741 00:36:19,914 --> 00:36:23,955 You had no control over anything, and we were scared. 742 00:36:24,035 --> 00:36:26,635 (crowd cheering) 743 00:36:26,715 --> 00:36:28,435 We felt something bad was going on, 744 00:36:28,515 --> 00:36:30,035 and these people were crazy, 745 00:36:30,115 --> 00:36:33,196 and they were like standing next to you. 746 00:36:33,276 --> 00:36:37,076 And oh, it was scary, the whole thing was out of control. 747 00:36:37,156 --> 00:36:39,716 (gentle music) 748 00:36:47,477 --> 00:36:48,917 - [Reporter] Altamont, California. 749 00:36:48,997 --> 00:36:50,558 Four people in the audience of a free 750 00:36:50,638 --> 00:36:54,838 and unscheduled concert died, one of them from stab wounds. 751 00:36:55,958 --> 00:36:56,758 - [Mick] All we could do was get out 752 00:36:56,838 --> 00:36:59,638 without getting in trouble ourselves. 753 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:01,719 It was just a nightmare. 754 00:37:02,879 --> 00:37:05,919 - [Narrator] Life as a Rolling Stone is spiraling 755 00:37:05,999 --> 00:37:08,519 into chaos. 756 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040 - After that period, the '60s period, 757 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840 then we had to take more control. 758 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,041 So that's when I had to take that role on a bit more, 759 00:37:21,121 --> 00:37:23,041 not that I particularly wanted to. 760 00:37:23,121 --> 00:37:26,401 The ideal is, in this situation, is to have someone 761 00:37:26,481 --> 00:37:28,521 that will do all that for you, 762 00:37:28,601 --> 00:37:31,082 but I never really found anyone like that. 763 00:37:31,162 --> 00:37:33,202 - [Journalist] Are you any more satisfied now? 764 00:37:33,282 --> 00:37:36,042 (crowd laughing) 765 00:37:37,122 --> 00:37:40,963 - Do you mean sexually or philosophically? 766 00:37:41,043 --> 00:37:42,443 - [Journalist] Both. 767 00:37:42,523 --> 00:37:45,803 - Yeah, we're more satisfied now sexually. 768 00:37:45,883 --> 00:37:48,643 (crowd giggling) 769 00:37:50,404 --> 00:37:52,484 Financially dissatisfied. 770 00:37:53,444 --> 00:37:55,484 - [Narrator] The Rolling Stones are about to find out 771 00:37:55,564 --> 00:37:59,084 that their taxes have not been paid for years 772 00:37:59,164 --> 00:38:01,005 and they're not as rich as they 773 00:38:01,085 --> 00:38:03,365 or the British Government thinks they are. 774 00:38:04,805 --> 00:38:06,405 - [Mick] There was nobody actively managing 775 00:38:06,485 --> 00:38:08,365 the Rolling Stones' money. 776 00:38:08,445 --> 00:38:11,086 The Rolling Stones had no money in the bank. 777 00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:14,806 And so now I had to try and put my head down 778 00:38:14,886 --> 00:38:17,006 and try and solve this puzzle. 779 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:21,687 To create income, we decided that the best way of doing that 780 00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:25,407 was to leave the UK because we'd have to pay less tax. 781 00:38:25,487 --> 00:38:29,047 At the time it looked as if it was a total curse. 782 00:38:29,127 --> 00:38:30,888 By the time we dealt with it, 783 00:38:30,968 --> 00:38:33,288 I think that it was a blessing. 784 00:38:33,368 --> 00:38:36,568 Quite honestly, we'd grown too big for England's boots. 785 00:38:37,688 --> 00:38:39,248 Keith always says that he was chased out 786 00:38:39,328 --> 00:38:41,089 of England by the cops. 787 00:38:41,169 --> 00:38:43,129 He may believe that, but the real reason 788 00:38:43,209 --> 00:38:45,209 that the band left was money. 789 00:38:47,769 --> 00:38:48,929 - [Narrator] Mick is forced 790 00:38:49,009 --> 00:38:52,850 to take on the main responsibility for the band's fortunes. 791 00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:59,210 - The band would certainly have their say in everything. 792 00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:02,451 And if they weren't particularly interested in having a say 793 00:39:02,531 --> 00:39:04,851 about certain details then I would have my say 794 00:39:04,931 --> 00:39:06,971 and I would tell them this is what we're gonna do. 795 00:39:07,051 --> 00:39:07,811 Do you agree? 796 00:39:07,891 --> 00:39:09,891 And they would say yes. 797 00:39:10,492 --> 00:39:12,492 That way now. 798 00:39:12,812 --> 00:39:15,052 - [Chrissie] The word democracy is used 799 00:39:15,132 --> 00:39:17,532 to keep everyone pacified, 800 00:39:17,612 --> 00:39:19,532 but you really have to have a strong leader 801 00:39:19,612 --> 00:39:21,093 in any organization. 802 00:39:21,173 --> 00:39:22,493 You have to trust someone, 803 00:39:22,573 --> 00:39:25,253 trust that they know better than you do. 804 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:26,893 Mick's not gonna let anything go wrong 805 00:39:26,973 --> 00:39:28,493 'cause he's in control. 806 00:39:28,573 --> 00:39:30,414 - [Chip] He was armed with the playbook 807 00:39:30,494 --> 00:39:32,134 of the London School of Economics 808 00:39:32,214 --> 00:39:35,814 and my evidence he was well armed. 809 00:39:36,854 --> 00:39:40,975 - [Joyce] I think he brings rigor, discipline, 810 00:39:41,055 --> 00:39:44,455 a 360 vision on everything. 811 00:39:44,535 --> 00:39:48,895 He's across all the details, he tests every proposition 812 00:39:50,095 --> 00:39:51,616 and to interact with him, 813 00:39:51,696 --> 00:39:53,136 you've got to stay at the top of your game, 814 00:39:53,216 --> 00:39:55,216 you've got to be in the A-stream really 815 00:39:55,296 --> 00:39:57,296 to try and keep up with him. 816 00:39:57,376 --> 00:39:59,256 - Someone has to be the person that says look, 817 00:39:59,336 --> 00:40:00,417 this what we really should be doing. 818 00:40:00,497 --> 00:40:01,537 Now, people can disagree with you 819 00:40:01,617 --> 00:40:03,657 and say we're not doing that 820 00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:07,377 or we wanna do something different. 821 00:40:07,457 --> 00:40:10,097 But yeah, I don't mind being in control 822 00:40:10,178 --> 00:40:12,778 of certain situations that I feel that I'm confident 823 00:40:12,858 --> 00:40:14,858 that I know what I'm talking about. 824 00:40:16,058 --> 00:40:20,098 - [Narrator] Step one for Stones 2.0 is a brand new deal 825 00:40:20,179 --> 00:40:23,179 brokered by Mick with Atlantic Records agreeing 826 00:40:23,259 --> 00:40:25,619 to warehouse their own label. 827 00:40:25,699 --> 00:40:28,779 The band is about to become a brand. 828 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:35,140 - We were doing the "Sticky Fingers" cover. 829 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:38,980 I don't know why I thought it should have a logo. 830 00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:43,781 - [Chess] I remember stopping at a Shell Oil gas station 831 00:40:43,861 --> 00:40:47,581 and a big picture of a yellow shell, no letters. 832 00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:50,702 Wow, everyone knows it's Shell. 833 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,462 We need a logo that stands by itself. 834 00:40:53,542 --> 00:40:55,862 - And so I think I'd gone to John Pasche 835 00:40:55,942 --> 00:40:59,582 and said let's try and get some funky idea. 836 00:40:59,662 --> 00:41:01,063 And I gave him this idea. 837 00:41:01,143 --> 00:41:03,343 - [John] I was at the Royal College of Art 838 00:41:03,423 --> 00:41:05,223 studying graphic design. 839 00:41:05,303 --> 00:41:09,663 The college got a call from the Stones' office asking 840 00:41:09,743 --> 00:41:12,864 for them to put forward a student to come 841 00:41:12,944 --> 00:41:14,544 and see Mick Jagger. 842 00:41:14,624 --> 00:41:15,664 What a break. 843 00:41:15,744 --> 00:41:17,104 I think a lot of people believe 844 00:41:17,184 --> 00:41:21,745 that the lips are based on Mick, but that's not really true. 845 00:41:21,825 --> 00:41:23,345 - [Mick] I gave him this idea 846 00:41:23,425 --> 00:41:26,745 of this disembodied tongue of Kali, 847 00:41:26,825 --> 00:41:28,705 and so then he modernized that. 848 00:41:28,785 --> 00:41:32,146 - [John] I saw it as maybe a symbol of protest, 849 00:41:32,226 --> 00:41:33,546 of anti-Establishment. 850 00:41:33,626 --> 00:41:36,626 It was like kids sticking their tongue out. 851 00:41:36,706 --> 00:41:39,586 It had to work as a stand-alone symbol 852 00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:42,267 if you like for the band, which was unusual. 853 00:41:42,347 --> 00:41:45,107 I mean there were brandings for companies and so on, 854 00:41:45,187 --> 00:41:49,587 but not so much in the rock and roll world really. 855 00:41:49,667 --> 00:41:53,108 - It related to the band, it had a connection. 856 00:41:53,188 --> 00:41:57,588 Color, fuck you, funkiness, originality. 857 00:41:57,668 --> 00:41:59,588 And so that's why it stuck I think. 858 00:41:59,668 --> 00:42:02,349 - [Tommy] I think that tongue is as important 859 00:42:02,429 --> 00:42:05,029 as any fashion logo in the world, 860 00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:09,469 and probably resonates in every country, every city, 861 00:42:09,549 --> 00:42:11,790 with people knowing exactly what it is. 862 00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:15,390 - [John] It's a logo that's really gone round the world now. 863 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:19,270 - It's a Rolling Stones weekend on Radio 1 864 00:42:19,350 --> 00:42:22,151 and their record has gone up seven places to number seven 865 00:42:22,231 --> 00:42:25,591 in the chart this week, the Stones "Fool To Cry." 866 00:42:25,671 --> 00:42:28,231 (gentle music) 867 00:42:29,951 --> 00:42:31,112 - [Narrator] But Mick Jagger is more 868 00:42:31,192 --> 00:42:35,192 than just a brand manager, he's a band member 869 00:42:35,272 --> 00:42:38,832 and a musician as essential as a Keith Richards' riff 870 00:42:38,912 --> 00:42:41,313 to the signature Stones sound. 871 00:42:42,793 --> 00:42:46,553 ♪ When I come home baby ♪ 872 00:42:46,633 --> 00:42:51,474 ♪ And I've been working all night long ♪ 873 00:42:51,554 --> 00:42:56,434 ♪ I put my daughter on my knee, and she says ♪ 874 00:42:56,514 --> 00:42:59,874 - I think if you have an individual timbre of your voice, 875 00:42:59,954 --> 00:43:04,755 which is recognizable just by luck if you want, 876 00:43:04,835 --> 00:43:06,835 that's really helpful. 877 00:43:08,195 --> 00:43:08,955 ♪ You know what she says ♪ 878 00:43:09,035 --> 00:43:12,156 - [Bernard] You know the minute he parts those lips, 879 00:43:12,236 --> 00:43:13,916 you know it's him. 880 00:43:13,996 --> 00:43:17,756 When somebody meets him and they talk to him, 881 00:43:17,836 --> 00:43:20,637 he speaks like an English gentleman. 882 00:43:21,877 --> 00:43:23,837 - One perhaps doesn't ask for responsibilities, 883 00:43:23,917 --> 00:43:26,477 perhaps one is given responsibilities 884 00:43:26,557 --> 00:43:29,637 when one is pushed into the limelight 885 00:43:29,717 --> 00:43:31,718 in this particular sphere. 886 00:43:33,118 --> 00:43:35,718 ♪ And I go see her sometimes ♪ 887 00:43:35,798 --> 00:43:37,038 ♪ And we make love ♪ 888 00:43:37,118 --> 00:43:38,758 - [Bernard] And he starts to sing, 889 00:43:38,838 --> 00:43:41,639 he turns into a black man from the South, 890 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,479 the Mick Jagger voice. ♪ I put my head on her shoulder ♪ 891 00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:48,719 ♪ She says, tell me all your troubles ♪ 892 00:43:48,799 --> 00:43:50,760 ♪ You know what she says to me ♪ 893 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,280 ♪ She says, ooh ♪ 894 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,360 - [PP] He's like listened to those voices, 895 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,841 to like all the blues singers, and he had it down. 896 00:44:02,361 --> 00:44:06,121 ♪ And it makes me wonder why ♪ 897 00:44:07,801 --> 00:44:09,601 - Lots of people have great voices, 898 00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:13,842 but lots of people are great guitarists, 899 00:44:13,922 --> 00:44:15,322 but that doesn't necessarily mean 900 00:44:15,402 --> 00:44:16,962 you're gonna be successful. 901 00:44:17,042 --> 00:44:18,242 - [Journalist] Have you got a good voice? 902 00:44:18,322 --> 00:44:19,522 - No. - [Journalist] Technically. 903 00:44:19,602 --> 00:44:21,323 - No, not really. 904 00:44:21,403 --> 00:44:24,363 I mean I'm lucky I still can sing 905 00:44:24,443 --> 00:44:27,963 more or less like the same notes when I was 19. 906 00:44:28,963 --> 00:44:30,284 But no, I haven't got a great voice, 907 00:44:30,364 --> 00:44:33,284 but it's okay, it does its job. 908 00:44:33,364 --> 00:44:35,004 - Mick Jagger, the singer with the group, 909 00:44:35,084 --> 00:44:37,564 a fascinating man, he's been described variously 910 00:44:37,644 --> 00:44:41,125 as the supreme sexual object in modern Western culture, 911 00:44:41,205 --> 00:44:42,925 that's a quote, a compound of menace 912 00:44:43,005 --> 00:44:44,525 and energy is another one, 913 00:44:44,605 --> 00:44:47,045 a sadomasochistic freak is another one. 914 00:44:47,125 --> 00:44:49,205 And it's fascinating. 915 00:44:49,285 --> 00:44:53,766 - [Tina] Mick was not the same person that I met in London 916 00:44:53,846 --> 00:44:56,486 when he was standing behind the speakers. 917 00:44:56,566 --> 00:44:59,966 He had come out of his shell because he had found 918 00:45:00,046 --> 00:45:05,047 what could make him perform the way he wanted to. 919 00:45:06,047 --> 00:45:08,927 Mick became a great performer. 920 00:45:09,007 --> 00:45:11,328 Mick became Mick Jagger. 921 00:45:12,728 --> 00:45:15,528 - [Tommy] Mick decided what he wanted to look like on stage, 922 00:45:15,608 --> 00:45:18,048 whether it was something very Bohemian, 923 00:45:18,128 --> 00:45:21,729 something maybe glittery, wearing eye make-up 924 00:45:21,809 --> 00:45:25,249 and becoming very androgenous. 925 00:45:26,089 --> 00:45:29,729 He was as chameleon-like as you could possibly imagine, 926 00:45:29,809 --> 00:45:32,890 but Mick really didn't give a shit, he did his thing anyway. 927 00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:34,690 So that influenced me 928 00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:37,290 to really go into the fashion business. 929 00:45:38,330 --> 00:45:40,731 - [Anna] The Stones really innovated 930 00:45:40,811 --> 00:45:42,691 that whole androgenous look. 931 00:45:42,771 --> 00:45:46,331 It was a feminized way of dressing, 932 00:45:46,411 --> 00:45:47,731 wearing their girlfriends' clothes, 933 00:45:47,811 --> 00:45:49,531 mixing it in with their wardrobe. 934 00:45:49,611 --> 00:45:52,372 When they had to attract 50,000 people 935 00:45:52,452 --> 00:45:55,612 to look at them on stage, they adapted their look. 936 00:45:56,572 --> 00:45:57,332 - [Journalist] How did you manage 937 00:45:57,412 --> 00:45:59,532 to make androgyny look so butch? 938 00:45:59,612 --> 00:46:00,373 (Mick giggles) 939 00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:03,853 - I didn't even know I was doing androgyny, I was so naive. 940 00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:06,733 But I was, I was doing that androgyny. 941 00:46:06,813 --> 00:46:10,334 But I was, obviously that was just the way I was naturally. 942 00:46:11,334 --> 00:46:13,254 I was a bit fey. 943 00:46:13,334 --> 00:46:15,374 I remember Brian being rather critical of me once 944 00:46:15,454 --> 00:46:18,054 'cause he thought I was too feminine. 945 00:46:18,134 --> 00:46:20,134 I mean, I had my moments of that. 946 00:46:20,735 --> 00:46:23,695 - [Anna] Every, every outfit, he just steals the screen. 947 00:46:24,855 --> 00:46:28,415 - There's a lot of camp background to theater, 948 00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:31,816 and rock and roll is still part of theater in a way. 949 00:46:31,896 --> 00:46:34,216 I had a great make-up artist called Pierre 950 00:46:34,296 --> 00:46:38,256 who would dress me up like wildly, 951 00:46:38,336 --> 00:46:40,737 and I'd have to take some of the layers off. 952 00:46:41,657 --> 00:46:43,897 And I loved it, I loved dressing up. 953 00:46:43,977 --> 00:46:45,937 Of course you dress up very effeminately 954 00:46:46,017 --> 00:46:48,857 but you don't act necessarily effeminately. 955 00:46:48,937 --> 00:46:50,738 - [Narrator] By 1972, 956 00:46:50,818 --> 00:46:54,738 Mick has never been more famous or infamous. 957 00:46:54,818 --> 00:46:56,898 More than just a rock star. 958 00:46:56,978 --> 00:47:00,779 He's an instantly recognizable global celebrity. 959 00:47:02,699 --> 00:47:04,139 - It can be really annoying 960 00:47:04,219 --> 00:47:07,099 because people make all these assumptions about you, 961 00:47:07,179 --> 00:47:08,659 but there's ways of dealing with it 962 00:47:08,739 --> 00:47:11,300 and some people can take it, some people can't. 963 00:47:11,380 --> 00:47:13,420 It's a bit of a pact with the devil really. 964 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,500 Cut. 965 00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:21,501 - I suddenly got an invite to go to his wedding to Bianca. 966 00:47:22,941 --> 00:47:24,941 I thought oh, this'll be fun. 967 00:47:25,261 --> 00:47:27,581 I realized that it's in the South of France. 968 00:47:27,661 --> 00:47:29,741 He'd laid on a plane. 969 00:47:29,821 --> 00:47:32,582 The plane is filling up with all these artistes 970 00:47:32,662 --> 00:47:36,022 and famous people of the day. 971 00:47:36,102 --> 00:47:37,982 We had such a great weekend. 972 00:47:38,062 --> 00:47:40,543 (airplane engine revving) 973 00:47:40,623 --> 00:47:44,623 Everyone was stoned, and so it was a great atmosphere. 974 00:47:45,903 --> 00:47:47,543 (rock music) 975 00:47:47,623 --> 00:47:48,383 - [Reporter] At probably 976 00:47:48,463 --> 00:47:50,143 the most chaotic wedding of the year, 977 00:47:50,224 --> 00:47:52,744 Mick Jagger arriving at the Saint Tropez Town Hall 978 00:47:52,824 --> 00:47:55,304 with his bride Bianca de Macias. 979 00:47:55,384 --> 00:47:56,744 When Jagger found that there were scores 980 00:47:56,824 --> 00:47:57,864 of photographers there, 981 00:47:57,944 --> 00:48:01,065 he said he refused to be married in a goldfish bowl. 982 00:48:01,145 --> 00:48:03,345 However, in spite of all the confusion, scuffling 983 00:48:03,425 --> 00:48:05,305 and shouting, one Rolling Stone 984 00:48:05,385 --> 00:48:08,625 at least finally came to rest. 985 00:48:08,705 --> 00:48:11,666 - [Narrator] As Mick's fame grows so does his ambition 986 00:48:11,746 --> 00:48:13,586 for the band. 987 00:48:13,666 --> 00:48:14,986 (crowd cheering) 988 00:48:15,066 --> 00:48:17,026 From the 1970s on, 989 00:48:17,106 --> 00:48:20,467 the sheer scale of their live performances grows 990 00:48:20,547 --> 00:48:21,787 ever larger. 991 00:48:21,867 --> 00:48:24,707 - I've been getting into lights and things, 992 00:48:24,787 --> 00:48:25,507 which has been nice, 993 00:48:25,587 --> 00:48:27,467 but I don't think anyone's really done lights properly 994 00:48:27,547 --> 00:48:28,787 in this country. 995 00:48:28,867 --> 00:48:30,788 - Last week, New York City finally got to see 996 00:48:30,868 --> 00:48:31,788 and hear the Rolling Stones. 997 00:48:31,868 --> 00:48:33,028 We were the last stop on a tour 998 00:48:33,108 --> 00:48:34,908 that I'm sure most of you have heard about, 999 00:48:34,988 --> 00:48:37,548 and the tour was amazingly complicated logistically 1000 00:48:37,628 --> 00:48:40,108 in terms of moving them and more than 100 people 1001 00:48:40,188 --> 00:48:41,629 that travel with them and all the equipment 1002 00:48:41,709 --> 00:48:43,509 from city to city. 1003 00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:44,589 - [Glyn] The Stones were the first band 1004 00:48:44,669 --> 00:48:46,429 to have their own stages built 1005 00:48:46,509 --> 00:48:48,349 and their own stage designs built, 1006 00:48:48,429 --> 00:48:50,149 which were pretty extraordinary. 1007 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:52,910 That was Mick, that wasn't anyone else, that was Mick. 1008 00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:58,310 (crowd cheering) 1009 00:48:58,390 --> 00:49:01,751 - [Narrator] The next two decades see the Stones create 1010 00:49:01,831 --> 00:49:06,111 a traveling carnival that only they control. 1011 00:49:06,191 --> 00:49:08,631 - [Chess] I felt something like I'd never felt in my life, 1012 00:49:08,711 --> 00:49:13,192 I felt like 20,000 people's energy looking at Mick 1013 00:49:14,392 --> 00:49:19,392 and I couldn't believe the sensation of that focused energy. 1014 00:49:20,112 --> 00:49:22,113 It's undescribable. 1015 00:49:23,033 --> 00:49:24,433 - When all these lights come on in red, 1016 00:49:24,513 --> 00:49:25,953 I'd like the whole stage to be red 1017 00:49:26,033 --> 00:49:28,993 and not to have just the front area. 1018 00:49:29,073 --> 00:49:30,314 - We've gone back to the crane. 1019 00:49:30,394 --> 00:49:33,154 I mean we talked about just losing the crane. 1020 00:49:33,234 --> 00:49:34,914 - [Patrick] Steel Wheels in '89 1021 00:49:34,994 --> 00:49:37,074 was a ground-breaking stadium tour. 1022 00:49:37,154 --> 00:49:40,074 The Stones did the first tours of stadia, 1023 00:49:40,154 --> 00:49:41,395 as they got bigger and bigger, 1024 00:49:41,475 --> 00:49:44,475 three or four nights at Madison Square Garden wasn't enough. 1025 00:49:45,755 --> 00:49:49,955 - [Bon Jovi] They did create the stadium rock show. 1026 00:49:50,035 --> 00:49:53,356 That generations of people go to see the Rolling Stones 1027 00:49:53,436 --> 00:49:56,836 because it's a bucket-list item, it's a life experience, 1028 00:49:56,916 --> 00:49:58,476 it's a rite of passage. 1029 00:49:58,556 --> 00:50:01,717 That stadium experience was mind-blowing. 1030 00:50:03,077 --> 00:50:04,797 - [Mick] I was just designing a playroom 1031 00:50:04,877 --> 00:50:06,757 for myself that was huge. 1032 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:08,317 And I used to climb up the back of this stage 1033 00:50:08,397 --> 00:50:12,918 that was 90 foot high, and no one had seen anything like it. 1034 00:50:12,998 --> 00:50:16,078 It's like in the old days when the circus would come. 1035 00:50:16,158 --> 00:50:18,358 - [Andy] When rock music got to that level 1036 00:50:18,438 --> 00:50:20,439 it became this giant thing. 1037 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,559 Mick was running the show 1038 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:25,319 and I think he's always run the show, 1039 00:50:25,399 --> 00:50:27,479 and I think they're all happy that he did. 1040 00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,120 (Mick speaking indistinctly) 1041 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,360 - Are you ready? 1042 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,920 We would go through the ideas for these big stadium tours 1043 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,800 with the massive stages that were very expensive. 1044 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,561 Some of them were just crazy and wonderful, 1045 00:50:40,641 --> 00:50:44,241 there were so many ideas, and not all of them practical. 1046 00:50:45,721 --> 00:50:49,361 (gentle music) (crowd cheering) 1047 00:50:49,441 --> 00:50:52,162 - [Patrick] Mick wanted to have an elephant come out 1048 00:50:52,242 --> 00:50:55,922 at the end of a performance and present him with a rose 1049 00:50:56,002 --> 00:50:58,162 in the end of his trunk. 1050 00:50:58,242 --> 00:50:59,722 What was he thinking? 1051 00:50:59,802 --> 00:51:01,203 What was he thinking? 1052 00:51:01,283 --> 00:51:03,363 And Mick will always push the envelope a bit. 1053 00:51:03,443 --> 00:51:06,443 Keith is the person who might stop that. 1054 00:51:06,523 --> 00:51:09,243 He famously stopped the elephant on the stage. 1055 00:51:10,163 --> 00:51:10,924 (Keith giggles) 1056 00:51:11,004 --> 00:51:11,764 - Everybody, 1057 00:51:11,844 --> 00:51:14,444 the sigh of relief almost blew the building down. 1058 00:51:14,524 --> 00:51:18,684 - [Bernard] I think that at times Mick might push further 1059 00:51:18,764 --> 00:51:21,325 than the band would like to go. 1060 00:51:21,405 --> 00:51:24,925 And when that happens, I guess there's a little discussion, 1061 00:51:25,005 --> 00:51:30,005 or there's no discussion, there's just no, no, 1062 00:51:30,726 --> 00:51:33,726 I'm not doing it and you can't make me. 1063 00:51:33,806 --> 00:51:34,526 - [Journalist] Would you tell me 1064 00:51:34,606 --> 00:51:36,606 about your relationship with Keith? 1065 00:51:37,966 --> 00:51:38,926 - No. 1066 00:51:39,006 --> 00:51:40,767 We have a pretty good relationship, 1067 00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:42,087 we have our ups and downs. 1068 00:51:42,167 --> 00:51:43,287 But I mean, after 30-something years, 1069 00:51:43,367 --> 00:51:45,207 I mean if you don't have any ups and downs, 1070 00:51:45,287 --> 00:51:47,887 there's something wrong with your relationship. 1071 00:51:47,967 --> 00:51:50,328 - [Bernard] There was a time you would never see Mick 1072 00:51:50,408 --> 00:51:53,688 and Keith put their arm around each other, 1073 00:51:53,768 --> 00:51:54,968 'cause for a lot of years, 1074 00:51:55,048 --> 00:51:57,688 they weren't laughing so much together. 1075 00:51:58,728 --> 00:52:02,009 - [Chrissie] The band isn't really meant to be touchy-feely, 1076 00:52:02,089 --> 00:52:03,929 that's what's great about them. 1077 00:52:04,009 --> 00:52:06,289 - You've been playing a bit of guitar, haven't you? 1078 00:52:06,369 --> 00:52:08,209 - Yeah, on stage. 1079 00:52:08,289 --> 00:52:10,129 Yeah, but I haven't played so much. 1080 00:52:10,209 --> 00:52:12,690 I enjoyed it very much, playing guitar. 1081 00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:15,290 Keith keeps adjusting my settings 1082 00:52:15,370 --> 00:52:17,370 when I'm singing of course. 1083 00:52:18,090 --> 00:52:20,371 If I did that with him he'd probably go bananas. 1084 00:52:20,451 --> 00:52:24,811 - [Bernard] That anger created a type of spark, 1085 00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:28,611 anger makes for good song writing. 1086 00:52:28,691 --> 00:52:31,852 - [Rod] Mick has always been the captain of the ship, 1087 00:52:31,932 --> 00:52:33,052 I know Keith won't like to hear that 1088 00:52:33,132 --> 00:52:35,292 but in the early '70s I thought, 1089 00:52:35,372 --> 00:52:37,652 like we all felt at the time, 1090 00:52:37,732 --> 00:52:39,812 you don't know how lucky you are, mate. 1091 00:52:39,892 --> 00:52:41,293 (gentle music) 1092 00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:42,973 - [Bernard] After a while, 1093 00:52:43,053 --> 00:52:45,613 I'm now seeing the love and respect 1094 00:52:46,533 --> 00:52:51,614 that they have each other, it warms the shit out of me. 1095 00:52:51,694 --> 00:52:53,134 (gentle music) 1096 00:52:53,214 --> 00:52:58,054 ♪ I'm the man on the mountain, come on up ♪ 1097 00:53:05,815 --> 00:53:10,816 ♪ I'm the plowman in the valley with a face full of mud ♪ 1098 00:53:16,616 --> 00:53:21,617 ♪ Well, I'm fumbling and I know my car don't start ♪ 1099 00:53:22,817 --> 00:53:27,817 ♪ Yes, I'm stumbling and I know I play a bad guitar ♪ 1100 00:53:29,097 --> 00:53:32,298 ♪ But I just wanna drink ♪ 1101 00:53:32,378 --> 00:53:36,338 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1102 00:53:36,418 --> 00:53:40,819 ♪ Just one drink and I'll fall down ♪ 1103 00:53:40,899 --> 00:53:45,099 - The thing about bands is that, that it's a band, 1104 00:53:45,979 --> 00:53:48,299 it's a collection of individuals a band, 1105 00:53:48,379 --> 00:53:50,260 they say you're just like brothers, 1106 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:51,100 you're just like a family. 1107 00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:52,740 It's not like a family at all. 1108 00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:54,980 I actually have a brother 1109 00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,220 and I know what it's like to have a brother 1110 00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:59,660 and it's not like being with Keith at all. 1111 00:54:02,221 --> 00:54:06,941 It's friendship and it's friendship and working together. 1112 00:54:08,301 --> 00:54:10,902 ♪ Give me little drink ♪ 1113 00:54:10,982 --> 00:54:13,542 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1114 00:54:13,622 --> 00:54:16,302 As in friendships or love affairs people have roles to play, 1115 00:54:16,382 --> 00:54:20,303 but those roles change, and so it's in a state of flux, 1116 00:54:20,383 --> 00:54:21,543 so it's never the same. 1117 00:54:21,623 --> 00:54:23,143 So if you're talking about a band like the Rolling Stones 1118 00:54:23,223 --> 00:54:24,863 who have been around for such a long time 1119 00:54:24,943 --> 00:54:26,943 then all of these things apply. 1120 00:54:27,823 --> 00:54:31,304 - [Brian] Jagger and Richards depend on each other 1121 00:54:31,384 --> 00:54:33,064 more than they'll ever know. 1122 00:54:33,144 --> 00:54:35,304 ♪ What a beautiful buzz ♪ 1123 00:54:35,384 --> 00:54:38,704 ♪ What a beautiful buzz ♪ 1124 00:54:39,984 --> 00:54:42,705 - Oh, they've had an argument. 1125 00:54:42,785 --> 00:54:45,985 Oh, my God, and I mean it's all talk 1126 00:54:46,065 --> 00:54:48,345 about storms in teacups. 1127 00:54:49,945 --> 00:54:51,066 And so before I know it, 1128 00:54:51,146 --> 00:54:54,706 Mick and I are actually making up fights 1129 00:54:54,786 --> 00:54:58,986 just to keep everybody happy, you know what I mean. 1130 00:54:59,066 --> 00:55:00,627 And so it gets ridiculous. 1131 00:55:00,707 --> 00:55:03,027 No, we're tight. 1132 00:55:03,107 --> 00:55:05,707 ♪ Give me little drink ♪ 1133 00:55:05,787 --> 00:55:10,147 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1134 00:55:10,227 --> 00:55:15,068 ♪ Just one drink and I'll fall down drunk ♪ 1135 00:55:17,708 --> 00:55:18,428 - [Journalist] Have you got any idea 1136 00:55:18,508 --> 00:55:21,869 why your group particularly has lasted as long as it has? 1137 00:55:21,949 --> 00:55:23,429 - Because we stay together I suppose. 1138 00:55:23,509 --> 00:55:24,989 - [Keith] And we enjoy it. 1139 00:55:25,069 --> 00:55:27,709 - We all have little sort of disagreements, 1140 00:55:27,789 --> 00:55:31,670 and we haven't had any violence since 1965 I don't think. 1141 00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:34,550 - [Journalist] And what happened in 1965? 1142 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:36,310 - Was that the chicken? 1143 00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:37,350 (both chuckle) 1144 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:39,150 Someone stole someone's chicken sandwich. 1145 00:55:39,230 --> 00:55:41,431 That was the last fight we had. 1146 00:55:41,511 --> 00:55:42,271 - [Journalist] Can you picture yourself 1147 00:55:42,351 --> 00:55:44,631 at the age of 60 doing what you do now? 1148 00:55:44,711 --> 00:55:46,631 - Yeah, easily, yeah. 1149 00:55:46,711 --> 00:55:48,391 - [Journalist] What happens to someone like yourself, 1150 00:55:48,471 --> 00:55:50,752 Mick Jagger, when you get old? - When you get old, yeah, 1151 00:55:50,832 --> 00:55:52,512 the same as what happens to you, love. 1152 00:55:52,592 --> 00:55:54,472 (crowd cheering) 1153 00:55:54,552 --> 00:55:56,392 - [Narrator] The Stones have now played live 1154 00:55:56,472 --> 00:56:00,473 in front of more than 15 million people 1155 00:56:00,553 --> 00:56:03,553 on every continent on Earth. 1156 00:56:03,633 --> 00:56:08,073 Drawing record-breaking crowds in Rio in 2006 1157 00:56:08,153 --> 00:56:10,634 and Havana 10 years later, 1158 00:56:10,714 --> 00:56:14,514 in a country that banned their music for decades. 1159 00:56:16,034 --> 00:56:19,074 - But I try to do things that haven't been done before 1160 00:56:19,154 --> 00:56:20,435 or difficult to do. 1161 00:56:20,515 --> 00:56:25,235 But I don't honestly enjoy doing business per se very much. 1162 00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:26,355 I'd much rather be a performer 1163 00:56:26,435 --> 00:56:28,875 and I wish I didn't have to do any of the business things. 1164 00:56:28,955 --> 00:56:31,396 But I am interested in creating shows. 1165 00:56:31,476 --> 00:56:34,836 (crowd cheering) 1166 00:56:34,916 --> 00:56:38,716 The whole thing of trying to go to Cuba was impossible. 1167 00:56:38,796 --> 00:56:39,796 Let's see if we can do it. 1168 00:56:39,876 --> 00:56:41,757 And the answer's not really, we can't. 1169 00:56:41,837 --> 00:56:43,837 And you push and you push and you push, 1170 00:56:43,917 --> 00:56:45,597 and then you keep pushing and you keep pushing. 1171 00:56:45,677 --> 00:56:48,157 Well, we'll find a way of just getting round this. 1172 00:56:50,478 --> 00:56:54,158 ♪ And you can't always get what you want ♪ 1173 00:56:54,238 --> 00:56:55,518 - [Patrick] I like to hear on the radio 1174 00:56:55,598 --> 00:56:57,798 at five past eight, you'll hear the tour manager 1175 00:56:57,878 --> 00:56:59,798 to the production manager, and he just says, 1176 00:56:59,878 --> 00:57:02,239 "We're walking, we're walking." 1177 00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:04,319 We know that it's three minutes to the stage 1178 00:57:04,399 --> 00:57:05,679 and then they start the intro music, 1179 00:57:05,759 --> 00:57:08,879 and then the show starts, and you still get butterflies 1180 00:57:08,959 --> 00:57:10,960 and excitement when you do that. 1181 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,800 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1182 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,840 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1183 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,921 (gentle music) 1184 00:57:23,001 --> 00:57:25,921 (choir vocalizing) 1185 00:57:33,922 --> 00:57:35,402 - Sometimes I think the Stones would go on 1186 00:57:35,482 --> 00:57:37,482 without Mick or me or something, 1187 00:57:37,562 --> 00:57:40,162 it would still carry on somehow. 1188 00:57:43,963 --> 00:57:46,883 - If you look at musical history, pop music history, 1189 00:57:46,963 --> 00:57:48,483 nothing lasts forever. 1190 00:57:48,563 --> 00:57:50,524 (Mick giggles) 1191 00:57:50,604 --> 00:57:53,164 (gentle music) 1192 00:57:55,804 --> 00:57:56,564 - [Andy] You have to go 1193 00:57:56,644 --> 00:57:59,364 how did this rebel rock and roll band stand the test 1194 00:57:59,444 --> 00:58:01,005 of time, still stay together. 1195 00:58:01,085 --> 00:58:03,005 Mick is the answer to that. 1196 00:58:03,085 --> 00:58:05,645 (crowd cheering) 1197 00:58:05,725 --> 00:58:07,725 - [Lisa] He doesn't beat his own butt 1198 00:58:07,805 --> 00:58:11,206 about I'm not who I was 40 years ago. 1199 00:58:11,286 --> 00:58:14,126 It's like I know who I was 40 years ago, 1200 00:58:14,206 --> 00:58:16,846 I knew who I was 50, 60 years ago. 1201 00:58:17,766 --> 00:58:20,206 (crowd cheering) 1202 00:58:20,287 --> 00:58:21,527 - [Don] They're not gonna end. 1203 00:58:21,607 --> 00:58:22,327 (Don giggles) 1204 00:58:22,407 --> 00:58:25,487 They've been doing this since I was in the sixth grade, 1205 00:58:25,567 --> 00:58:27,927 and they're gonna keep doing it 'til they drop. 1206 00:58:29,407 --> 00:58:32,008 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1207 00:58:32,088 --> 00:58:33,888 - [Bernard] The hardest thing in rock and roll 1208 00:58:33,968 --> 00:58:36,288 is to keep the band together. 1209 00:58:36,368 --> 00:58:38,368 Got to keep the band together. 1210 00:58:39,008 --> 00:58:41,009 Got to keep the band together. 1211 00:58:41,609 --> 00:58:43,609 And Mick Jagger did. 1212 00:58:44,129 --> 00:58:46,889 (crowd cheering) 1213 00:58:49,529 --> 00:58:52,090 (gentle music) 93956

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