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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,860 Thank you, Jade, so much for coming today. It's OK. 2 00:00:11,380 --> 00:00:14,820 Do you think about how many men might have actually abused you? 3 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:19,500 It's in the hundreds, but I just try not to... 4 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:23,100 TEARFULLY: ..try not to go there. 5 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:30,700 This is the story of five women... 6 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:35,300 One day it was like 11 men that all done something to me. 7 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:38,820 I told the police on numerous occasions. Nothing ever got done. 8 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:44,540 ..a story I found out about nearly 30 years ago. 9 00:00:44,540 --> 00:00:47,380 There they are, that's them. Three cars. 10 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:49,740 The men used to pick us up from school 11 00:00:49,740 --> 00:00:54,140 and the school teachers and the headteacher used to watch them. 12 00:00:54,140 --> 00:00:56,340 They kept me in a flat for two days... 13 00:00:58,060 --> 00:01:00,340 ..where they took turns on me. 14 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:01,700 And were you there by yourself? 15 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:03,220 Yeah. 16 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:08,300 A story set against a political fire storm... 17 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:10,780 MAN ON LOUD-HAILER: Young girls are being systematically raped 18 00:01:10,780 --> 00:01:13,260 by Muslim paedophile perverts. 19 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:17,940 Most of these victims are absolute liars, 20 00:01:17,940 --> 00:01:20,980 and they still get away with it. 21 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:22,780 When the police do knock on their door, 22 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:24,780 they're like, "My husband would never do that." 23 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:27,940 ..which exploded again in January this year. 24 00:01:27,940 --> 00:01:29,500 Lies and misinformation. 25 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:31,140 ROARING: Yes! 26 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:35,140 I've been a film-maker for 30 years, 27 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:37,860 and I was already going back through my own archives. 28 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:39,620 Men. Asian men, blaming the Asian men. 29 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:41,420 Can I just ask you this? What is it? Why Asians? No. 30 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:42,620 Well, what about the white guys 31 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:44,420 that are raping their own daughters and stuff? 32 00:01:44,420 --> 00:01:48,420 And I've spent the last year re-piecing together this history. 33 00:01:48,420 --> 00:01:51,340 But also finding out what is still happening now. 34 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:52,780 I don't know what to say, like, 35 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:54,460 to people that say it's not happening. 36 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:56,140 Everything that's happened to me, that's your evidence, 37 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:57,260 and it's still happening. 38 00:01:57,260 --> 00:01:59,900 They're not gonna stop. 39 00:01:59,900 --> 00:02:03,500 It's a story told by the people who really matter, 40 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:06,420 the people who feel they've been silenced - 41 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:08,220 the survivors. 42 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:09,740 We are not the problem. 43 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:14,180 Them men are the problem. 44 00:02:20,660 --> 00:02:23,780 This is a film I hoped I'd never have to make. 45 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:26,860 Its subject has haunted me most of my working life, 46 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:28,700 and it's still going on now. 47 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:42,980 When I was 28, 48 00:02:42,980 --> 00:02:45,340 I first found out about British schoolgirls 49 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:48,540 being groomed into sexual exploitation. 50 00:02:48,540 --> 00:02:50,860 At that point, I was a young researcher. 51 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:52,780 I'd never directed a film. 52 00:02:56,740 --> 00:02:58,780 Oh, gosh, this is it. 53 00:02:58,780 --> 00:03:03,100 Back in 1996, I met the director of a Barnardo's project in Bradford 54 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:04,780 called Streets And Lanes. 55 00:03:04,780 --> 00:03:07,140 That meeting changed the course of my life. 56 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:09,500 Children are victims, not prostitutes, say Barnardo's. 57 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:14,860 Barnardo's told me about a pattern of abuse 58 00:03:14,860 --> 00:03:18,220 that they'd been documenting for a full year. 59 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:22,580 At that time, the victims were called child prostitutes. 60 00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:24,620 And what I knew from this research, 61 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:26,900 but was never released to the press, 62 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:29,940 was that in Bradford in 1996, 63 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:33,220 the deeply unpalatable fact was that the perpetrators 64 00:03:33,220 --> 00:03:36,220 were overwhelmingly British Pakistani men. 65 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:40,100 And, for the last three decades, 66 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:42,180 however troubling this was, 67 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:44,620 I knew I couldn't shy away from that truth. 68 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:00,220 Right. 69 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:02,540 Chantelle, scene one, take one. Marking. 70 00:04:02,540 --> 00:04:03,580 CLAPPER BOARD CLICKS 71 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:06,340 Are you OK, Chantelle? Yeah. 72 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:07,580 Yeah? I'm fine. 73 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:10,180 So, look, thank you so much for coming today, 74 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:14,500 and thank you for wanting to be involved with this film. 75 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:16,780 Today I'm meeting Chantelle. 76 00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:19,780 She feels ready to identify herself. 77 00:04:19,780 --> 00:04:21,620 She's now in her 30s, 78 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:24,300 but her story starts in the early 2000s. 79 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:30,140 When I was growing up, my mum was in and out of prison a lot. 80 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:32,500 So, Social Services got involved, 81 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:35,900 cos my dad was unable to look after all of us on his own. 82 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:42,460 Chantelle and her four brothers and sisters were all placed in care. 83 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:44,820 I actually preferred being in care. 84 00:04:44,820 --> 00:04:47,660 I was going to school, I was being fed, 85 00:04:47,660 --> 00:04:50,700 I was having a bath, I was making friends. 86 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,180 It was quite nice at first. 87 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:54,900 And how old were you at that point, Chantelle, 88 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:56,100 when you first went into care? 89 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:58,180 I was eight years old. 90 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:00,900 You moved around quite a lot, didn't you, in those early years? 91 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:05,860 Yeah. In total, from being around nine, up until I was 17, 92 00:05:05,860 --> 00:05:10,980 I think I had 40-odd different placements, residential and fosters. 93 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,460 When she was 11, Chantelle was moved 94 00:05:18,460 --> 00:05:21,220 to emergency accommodation in Manchester. 95 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:28,820 Before long, men started turning up outside the children's home. 96 00:05:28,820 --> 00:05:31,540 So, my children's home was on the right. 97 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:35,460 A bunch of men used to just sit on the wall outside the home. 98 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:42,660 And I ended up getting into what I thought was a relationship. 99 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:45,700 There was like no sexual intercourse or anything at first, 100 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:51,620 it was all food, beer, cigarettes. 101 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:54,460 And then he introduced cannabis. 102 00:05:54,460 --> 00:05:58,300 They used to put pills into my drinks 103 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,740 and try and give me cocaine and stuff like that. 104 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:09,580 It progressed quite quickly to a sexual relationship. 105 00:06:15,140 --> 00:06:18,460 It was only with the one guy for about a week or two. 106 00:06:18,460 --> 00:06:22,900 And then a car used to come, and there'd be a driver, 107 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:25,900 and there'd be two men in the back - 108 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:30,300 one that I genuinely thought was my boyfriend at first. 109 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:32,660 He used to bring his friends in the car, 110 00:06:32,660 --> 00:06:37,540 and I used to have to, like, do oral sex on them and... 111 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:40,180 That was when you were still 11, you were doing all of that? 112 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:43,460 Yeah. OK. And when you said you thought this guy was your boyfriend, 113 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:46,020 can you remember how old he was? 114 00:06:46,020 --> 00:06:47,780 He was at least 20. 115 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:06,980 Can you just tell me why you want to remain anonymous? 116 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:09,620 Cos I'm not ready to come public yet, 117 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:12,620 and to, obviously, to protect my child. 118 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:14,260 Yeah, OK. 119 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:17,540 I'm interviewing Erin. 120 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:19,620 Her hands and her voice are real. 121 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:24,020 But the face you are seeing is an actor's. 122 00:07:24,020 --> 00:07:27,540 Why do you think you want to do this today? 123 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:31,940 To tell what the real truth were, because I got silenced as a child. 124 00:07:31,940 --> 00:07:34,540 How...how did you get silenced as a child? 125 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:40,940 The police and the Social Services made me feel like it was my fault. 126 00:07:40,940 --> 00:07:43,860 And, inside, I were screaming. 127 00:07:43,860 --> 00:07:46,460 But nobody were listening. 128 00:07:46,460 --> 00:07:50,140 Erin's story begins in the early 2000s. 129 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:53,740 Growing up, we were like a big family. 130 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:56,620 They were at always, like, my grandma's and stuff, 131 00:07:56,620 --> 00:07:58,980 and all the cousins were like together, 132 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:02,740 but I always just felt like I didn't fit in anywhere. 133 00:08:02,740 --> 00:08:04,060 I loved my family. 134 00:08:04,060 --> 00:08:06,340 But I found it really difficult. 135 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:15,020 It started at the age of 12. 136 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:17,980 We just went into town. 137 00:08:17,980 --> 00:08:21,620 And there were these young Asian boys 138 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:23,500 that were kind of the same age as us. 139 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:29,620 And we were just like hanging about the bus station. 140 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:36,500 That happened for a couple of weeks. 141 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:41,540 And then the boys introduced their uncles. 142 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:53,580 First person that raped me, I was aged 13. 143 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,700 I just wanted to be accepted. 144 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:00,300 And that's why, I think, a lot of the time, 145 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:05,260 I let the men...do stuff to me. 146 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:07,460 You know, because I was scared to say no. 147 00:09:15,180 --> 00:09:17,220 The pattern of how to groom a child 148 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:21,100 that Barnardo's documented in 1996 was new. 149 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:24,700 But its five stages have become frighteningly familiar now. 150 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:28,060 These are my original notes that I've kept for 30 years. 151 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:30,420 Stage one - a young girl, normally aged 13, 152 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:33,580 is courted by an older man aged 18 to 25. 153 00:09:33,580 --> 00:09:36,940 The girl thinks she falls in love and perceives him as her boyfriend. 154 00:09:36,940 --> 00:09:40,060 Stage two - the guys starts to demand dependency from the girl. 155 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:43,220 He'll be jealous and start to isolate from friends and family. 156 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:46,420 Stage three - by this point, the guy has got control. 157 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:48,260 "You'll do this for me if you love me." 158 00:09:48,260 --> 00:09:50,020 The fear of violence enters. 159 00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:51,860 Stage four - drugs enter. 160 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:53,420 The final stage is prostitution, 161 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:56,060 but it would never be expressed in that language. 162 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:58,340 The girl is asked to sleep with his mates. 163 00:09:58,340 --> 00:09:59,980 She's doing him a favour. 164 00:10:03,980 --> 00:10:06,380 They just kept coming and coming. 165 00:10:06,380 --> 00:10:10,380 I think I was going missing every day from that children's home. 166 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:12,900 I remember one day, like, I was high on drugs, 167 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:15,180 off all these drugs they'd give me, 168 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:16,580 and I was trying to run away. 169 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:18,700 And they put me in the car 170 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,980 and they ended up taking us to a hotel in town. 171 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:23,980 And we was there for like four days, 172 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:26,740 and men was just coming and going. 173 00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:29,700 And, in the end, they was like, "Here's a load of money." 174 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:33,380 Took us to the Arndale Centre and bought me a gold ring, 175 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:35,340 a mobile phone. 176 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:39,300 And then dropped us back off at the children's home. 177 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:44,180 There was another incident where I was anally raped by these men, 178 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:46,260 and, like, passed about. 179 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:50,700 One day, there was like 11 men that all done something to me. 180 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:53,820 And they wouldn't let us go. 181 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:55,860 I told the police on numerous occasions, 182 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:58,260 and there was never, ever any follow-ups. 183 00:10:58,260 --> 00:11:00,540 All they done was took the mobile phone off me, 184 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:02,460 and the ring that they bought me. 185 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:20,580 They'd pick us up from school, 186 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:24,220 and the school teachers and the headteacher used to watch them. 187 00:11:27,460 --> 00:11:30,580 They'd, like, threaten my family and stuff. 188 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:32,940 What would they threaten to do to your family? 189 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:37,580 Erm, to rape my mum and my sister, and to petrol-bomb the house. 190 00:11:37,580 --> 00:11:39,940 My mum, she were upset and stuff, 191 00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:42,220 and reported stuff to the police, 192 00:11:42,220 --> 00:11:44,580 but the police weren't bothered. 193 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:48,980 They said, "Well, you know, it's her lifestyle choices." 194 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:52,660 These people that were meant to protect you, 195 00:11:52,660 --> 00:11:54,860 and they're calling you a prostitute. 196 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:58,300 Erin was 14 at this point. 197 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:09,460 Police were saying, apparently, I was a prostitute, 198 00:12:09,460 --> 00:12:12,420 and I was putting myself at risk. 199 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:15,820 But if they're coming to my home and approaching me, 200 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:18,380 or I'm not getting took back for days, 201 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:21,300 that's not me prostituting myself, do you know? 202 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:24,100 That was me being took advantage of. 203 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:26,380 I was just crying out for help, to be honest. 204 00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:27,620 Nothing ever got done. 205 00:12:38,140 --> 00:12:39,820 You might think that because Chantelle 206 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:43,060 and Erin's cases happened 20 years ago, 207 00:12:43,060 --> 00:12:47,860 it's a scandal, but it couldn't possibly happen now. 208 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:50,860 But the reason I decided to go back to investigate 209 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:54,580 was that my police sources from the early 2000s were telling me 210 00:12:54,580 --> 00:12:57,980 that this exact pattern was still happening today. 211 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:04,220 Why don't you wanna be identified today? 212 00:13:04,220 --> 00:13:06,020 I'm living in the middle of where I was being groomed. 213 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:07,660 Like, it's too much of a risk 214 00:13:07,660 --> 00:13:10,020 for me to be putting my face on to be noticed. 215 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:11,580 Sure. 216 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:15,300 Scarlett is now 20 and, as recently as two years ago, 217 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:17,820 was caught up in a cycle of exploitation 218 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:19,940 that started when she was 14. 219 00:13:19,940 --> 00:13:23,260 She feels it's too dangerous to identify, 220 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:25,740 so we're replacing her face with an actor's, 221 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:28,060 but her voice and her hands are real. 222 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:33,220 14th of September 2022, this was a taxi driver, 223 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:35,540 he used to pick me up and take me to Rochdale. 224 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:36,860 He'd be sent to go and pick you up? 225 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:39,140 Yeah. I didn't use to pay. 226 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:41,340 THUNDER RUMBLES 227 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:44,860 In 2022, 228 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:48,780 Scarlett was trafficked for sex around the country. 229 00:13:48,780 --> 00:13:51,060 Wolverhampton, Bradford, 230 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:53,940 Birmingham, Dudley. 231 00:13:53,940 --> 00:13:56,540 It's only looking back at my Snapchat memories 232 00:13:56,540 --> 00:13:58,900 to see where I was that I knew I was in these places. 233 00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:01,300 Like, I couldn't even remember being there. 234 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:02,740 Yeah. 235 00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:05,100 How many girls do you think you know 236 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:06,980 that are still right in the middle of it? 237 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:10,260 Erm, the people that I personally know in Tameside, 238 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:12,380 probably like three, 239 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:14,180 but then, if you're going up and down the country, 240 00:14:14,180 --> 00:14:16,140 like, I've met so many girls. 241 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,780 Still see them on a daily basis, 242 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:22,220 some of these people walking around. 243 00:14:22,220 --> 00:14:23,500 Do they see you? 244 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:27,220 Erm, no, cos they don't recognise what I look like any more. 245 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:29,140 But I know them, like. 246 00:14:29,140 --> 00:14:32,900 When I see them, I know exactly who they are. 247 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:34,820 You don't know what to say, like, 248 00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:36,500 to people that say it's not happening. 249 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:38,300 Everything that's happened to me, that's your evidence, 250 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:40,580 and it's still happening. They're not gonna stop, 251 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:42,420 Like, it's actually organised crime. 252 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:55,100 I've made lots of films in my career about child sexual abuse. 253 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:58,060 And the statistics show that the vast majority of abuse 254 00:14:58,060 --> 00:15:02,460 is carried out in the home or in an institution, by someone you know. 255 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:06,420 And the vast majority of offenders in the UK are white. 256 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:08,260 But, as I started to investigate 257 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:10,940 this particular pattern of child sexual abuse, 258 00:15:10,940 --> 00:15:12,940 I needed to understand the specific nature 259 00:15:12,940 --> 00:15:16,540 of the cases that involve British Pakistani perpetrators. 260 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:20,380 When I looked back through my archive, 261 00:15:20,380 --> 00:15:22,940 I found this footage of two men in Sheffield 262 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:26,100 who told us why such young girls were being targeted. 263 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:28,940 Why 13-year-old girls? Why not older girls? 264 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:31,300 It's cos the younger girls, it's easy to take advantage. 265 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,100 Cos when they're 18, 19, they don't really fall 266 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,540 for little things like that. 267 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:37,700 They listen cos they're vulnerable. They can never get out. 268 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:44,900 It's important for me to go back to find out who knew what, when. 269 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,260 I decided to track down some of the other women 270 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:51,660 who've been involved in exposing child sexual exploitation. 271 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:54,300 One of them is Jayne Senior in Rotherham. 272 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,580 In 1999, I applied for a job 273 00:15:57,580 --> 00:16:00,260 to manage the Risky Business project. 274 00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:03,180 And it was initially set up to work with girls 275 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:05,860 and children involved in prostitution. 276 00:16:05,860 --> 00:16:08,500 It wasn't very long before we began to recognise 277 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,540 that you cannot put the word 'child' and 'prostitute' 278 00:16:11,540 --> 00:16:13,900 in the same sentence. 279 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,620 Because, actually, we were talking about children 280 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:19,540 that were being exploited, trafficked, tortured, raped. 281 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:25,700 In 2000, some of Jayne's cases were examined for a research project 282 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:31,300 funded by the Home Office, on child sexual exploitation in Rotherham. 283 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:33,220 This report was never published, 284 00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:35,780 but we've been given an original copy. 285 00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:40,780 Astonishingly, it says that 268 young women 286 00:16:40,780 --> 00:16:45,020 were known to Jayne's team, and a further 63 were at risk. 287 00:16:46,060 --> 00:16:50,420 That's 331 young women at risk in 2002. 288 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:05,020 The report identified that were a lot of gaps and a lot of faults. 289 00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:08,420 And it was sent off to senior managers in the council, 290 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:10,340 and it was sent off to the Home Office. 291 00:17:10,340 --> 00:17:13,660 And it just then became toxic. 292 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:16,340 Why? Because they didn't want to hear what we had found, 293 00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:18,180 even though it was truthful 294 00:17:18,180 --> 00:17:23,300 and it was actually helping to protect these children. 295 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,260 Was there a reluctance in Rotherham to face it head-on 296 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:30,940 because the perpetrators were overwhelming British Pakistani? 297 00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:32,780 I think there was. 298 00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:34,380 I was told on more than one occasion 299 00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:37,460 I needed to stop rocking the multicultural boat. 300 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:41,500 It were just kind of swept away and swept under the carpet. 301 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:49,340 It's so shocking to think that the Home Office 302 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:53,740 and Rotherham Council knew in 2002 how children were being failed 303 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:57,540 and known perpetrators were left to carry on abusing, 304 00:17:57,540 --> 00:18:01,100 and chose to do nothing other than bury that report. 305 00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:10,460 Only a few miles away, in West Yorkshire, 306 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:13,940 Erin's grooming had reached the stage where she was being controlled 307 00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:16,420 by one man she thought was her boyfriend. 308 00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:21,060 He used to pick me up from home, 309 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:25,460 and one of the times, him and his cousin raped me 310 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:28,260 at the same time, in Leeds. 311 00:18:28,260 --> 00:18:30,860 Obviously, I told him no, 312 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:35,740 but they had vaginal and anal sex at the same time. 313 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,420 It really hurt. 314 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:42,420 And that must have been absolutely terrifying for you. 315 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:43,580 It were. 316 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:44,820 SHE SNIFFS 317 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:47,100 I kept on screaming, 318 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,900 like, "Get off me" and stuff. 319 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:51,180 Yeah, I just wanted it to stop. 320 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:53,380 But he didn't...he didn't listen. 321 00:18:54,820 --> 00:19:00,180 It...it just felt pain going through like my whole body. 322 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:05,020 And then, when they was done with me, 323 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:07,740 I were crying and screaming and saying, 324 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:09,220 "Why would you do that?" 325 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:17,260 Him and his cousin drove me back to my house, and he, erm, 326 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:20,980 told me that if I ever spoke about it, then he'd kill me, 327 00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:25,420 and he threw me into my mum and dad's garden. 328 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:31,100 TEARFULLY: I just felt disgusting. 329 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:42,860 After Erin's horrific assault at the hands of two men, 330 00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:45,420 her mum took her to the police station. 331 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:50,620 My mum gave them my knickers and, like, my phone and stuff. 332 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:53,900 She were kicking off with them, saying, 333 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,500 "She's got bite marks from head to toe," 334 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:59,620 saying that I had semen in my knickers. 335 00:19:59,620 --> 00:20:01,300 But they didn't care. 336 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,420 They were just like, "What do you want us to do about it?" 337 00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:17,940 Amy Clowrey is a specialist child abuse lawyer, 338 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:20,380 and she represents Erin. 339 00:20:20,380 --> 00:20:25,740 I can't understand why a vulnerable child has been violently raped 340 00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:27,660 by a number of people, 341 00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:31,340 semen has been provided to the police, 342 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:33,700 and they've not been able to do anything with that, 343 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,180 and just essentially let that person get away with it. 344 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:40,180 And I think what is really worrying from that, 345 00:20:40,180 --> 00:20:42,700 you can understand why these girls thought that those men 346 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:44,060 weren't doing anything wrong, 347 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:45,820 because if they were doing something wrong, 348 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:49,100 surely the police would have done something about it? 349 00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:56,980 At the same time, in Manchester, in 2003, 350 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:58,940 things were about to change. 351 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:08,100 There was a girl who lived local called Victoria. 352 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,740 And when I used to go round to this flat, 353 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:15,540 sometimes she'd be, like, hanging around, or with this man. 354 00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:18,460 And I remember her because she used to have all her hair scraped back 355 00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:20,940 and a plait and big earrings. 356 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:24,220 She always had a smile on her face, she was always happy. 357 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:28,620 And she looked like she was in love with this man. 358 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:31,380 He was a lot older than Victoria. 359 00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:34,100 So, you were 11 at that point. How old was Victoria, do you think? 360 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,660 I think she was 15, nearly 16. 361 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:44,100 REPORTER: Victoria Agoglia lived a short and horrific life - 362 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:47,060 beaten, raped and injected with heroin. 363 00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:49,620 Chantelle's friend, Victoria Agoglia, 364 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:52,980 died in September 2003, when she was just 15... 365 00:21:54,620 --> 00:21:57,460 ..five days after being forcibly injected with heroin 366 00:21:57,460 --> 00:21:58,980 by an older man. 367 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:01,300 REPORTER: ...hospital that Vicky died on Monday 368 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,500 from a suspected drugs overdose. 369 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:11,300 Her abuser was eventually jailed for two-and-half years, 370 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:16,820 but Victoria's death spurred the police in Manchester into action. 371 00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:21,740 I was asked to join a job that became known as Operation Augusta. 372 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:24,500 It was my first introduction 373 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:28,820 to what has been now recognised as grooming gangs. 374 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:30,860 Maggie scene one, take one. Marking. 375 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:32,340 CLAPPER BOARD CLICKS 376 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:34,620 Maggie Oliver is another woman who's traversed 377 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,980 the same period of history as me. 378 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:40,180 She was a Detective Constable on this new team. 379 00:22:40,180 --> 00:22:46,140 Within the space of, really, weeks, we had dozens of men, 380 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:48,620 virtually all Pakistani men. 381 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:52,260 They were sending younger boys to pick up children 382 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:57,140 from the children's homes, a pattern that's well known now. 383 00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:00,260 The children were all in care 384 00:23:00,260 --> 00:23:05,220 from the age of 11 up until 16, really. 385 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:08,100 And they were just like cannon fodder. 386 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,860 Seeing them parked there just makes you feel sick, 387 00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:17,620 knowing the amount of times young girls are being brought here. 388 00:23:17,620 --> 00:23:18,940 And that, even the police came, 389 00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,860 they would still just be left there. 390 00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:23,700 At the same time in Bradford, in 2003, 391 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,540 I was making a film called Edge Of The City. 392 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:28,300 In most cases where we have a crime, 393 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:31,260 we have a victim that comes forward and says, "I'm a victim of crime." 394 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:33,900 This is unusual because we don't have girls actually saying... 395 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:36,100 ..saying that, in most cases. 396 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:42,140 It's not about colour, it's not about religion. 397 00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:45,620 It's about young girls getting abused by young men. 398 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:53,140 What you uncovered in Yorkshire 399 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:57,740 was exactly what was happening in Manchester in 2004. 400 00:24:03,380 --> 00:24:07,780 Riots across the Pennines happened in the summer of 2001. 401 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:10,140 In Bradford, the city was still on edge, 402 00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:13,220 and the ethnicity of the grooming gangs was the touch paper. 403 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,380 Local elections in Bradford were looming, 404 00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:20,580 with ten BNP candidates standing. 405 00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:24,580 And Edge Of The City was about to air. 406 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:30,420 The Chief Constable of West Yorkshire wrote to Channel 4, 407 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:33,740 saying, "The film will increase community tensions, 408 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:37,100 "with a consequent risk it will provoke public disorder." 409 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:43,540 The film was postponed 410 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:47,460 and transmitted a few months later, unchanged. 411 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:51,740 But gang grooming had become a deeply polarising political issue. 412 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:03,860 The only time I can look back and I was really, really happy 413 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:06,740 and I felt like I fitted in was when I lived in Wales. 414 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:10,340 I lived with a foster family called Julie and Tony. 415 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:13,300 Julie, I still class her as my mum, still to this day. 416 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:20,380 Still only 11, Chantelle managed to escape her abusers. 417 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:23,020 She was moved out of Manchester to Wales. 418 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:29,220 I lived a lovely, friendly, happy life. 419 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:32,060 We used to always go to the beach. It was dead nice. 420 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,420 Chantelle had been in this foster placement 421 00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:40,820 for two years when things started to break down. 422 00:25:40,820 --> 00:25:43,820 They didn't tell Julie that before I went there, I was abused. 423 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:47,140 So, she wasn't aware, so it was... 424 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:49,060 The placement broke down. 425 00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:52,020 So, then you came back to Manchester? Yeah. 426 00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:55,020 And then it pretty quickly resumed, did it? 427 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:56,220 Yeah. 428 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:04,340 We had identified 97 child rapists. 429 00:26:04,340 --> 00:26:09,660 We had identified about three dozen children 430 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:12,620 who were being raped pretty much every day. 431 00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:16,140 So, Chantelle was one of the children whose name 432 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:20,380 was on our Augusta list. But I never met her. 433 00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:23,300 No-one had told Chantelle 434 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:26,100 that she'd been identified by Operation Augusta 435 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,460 as a child at risk. 436 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:30,740 She's the first child from the Augusta investigation 437 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:33,340 to waive their anonymity. 438 00:26:33,340 --> 00:26:36,260 I remember going mad at my social worker, 439 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:37,980 saying I wanted to move, 440 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:40,660 and that I didn't want them to come to the home any more. 441 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:42,620 And nothing got done about it - 442 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:46,060 nothing got stopped, they didn't move me. 443 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:48,860 Your perpetrators were largely Pakistani men, weren't they? 444 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,500 Yeah. Did you ever feel that there was a reluctance 445 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,820 to deal with it because of that issue? 446 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,500 I've never really fully understood why. 447 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,460 Is it because they don't wanna be classed as racist, 448 00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:03,340 or is it because we have genuinely just got no-one that cares? 449 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:09,140 In May 2004, 450 00:27:09,140 --> 00:27:13,660 Maggie and her colleagues presented their findings to senior officers. 451 00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:15,620 The Augusta Report was never published 452 00:27:15,620 --> 00:27:17,340 by Greater Manchester Police, 453 00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:19,540 but we've tracked down an original copy. 454 00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:26,980 It said that the perpetrators were almost exclusively Asian males. 455 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:30,220 And that the offences ranged from assault and harassment 456 00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:32,020 to rape and manslaughter. 457 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:38,460 We were told it had been accepted that it was a major incident. 458 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,060 We would be given a full major incident team 459 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:44,980 to properly resource, investigate and prosecute. 460 00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:46,420 And we were all... 461 00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:49,460 ..happy as Larry, really, 462 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:52,180 knowing that these men were not gonna be allowed 463 00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:57,500 to destroy more generations of children. 464 00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:12,780 All good? Yeah. 465 00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:16,500 I've come to meet Steph, 466 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:20,020 who was also one of the children in Operation Augusta. 467 00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:22,340 She doesn't want us to identify her, 468 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:24,300 so her face is an actor's, 469 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:27,020 and her voice and her hands are real. 470 00:28:27,020 --> 00:28:30,500 Do you wanna just tell me a little bit about your early life? 471 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,060 I did a lot of homes, I did a lot of foster placements. 472 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:38,860 I don't think I really stayed in one particular place 473 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:41,300 for more than six month a year. 474 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,700 I moved into a children's home. 475 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,220 I started going out with some of the girls, 476 00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:49,460 who introduced me to these men. 477 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:55,060 Someone picked me up from the children's home, 478 00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:57,420 took me to this flat. 479 00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:00,220 I remember looking at how shiny his shoes were, 480 00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:03,780 and I actually asked him what was his job. 481 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,220 Cos there was two of them, dressed identical. 482 00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:09,980 Erm, they said that they were security guards. 483 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,860 They kept me in a flat for two days. 484 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:25,860 The big one took me into the bedroom, 485 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:27,180 telling me to relax. 486 00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:31,140 And then the next one would come in and they just took turns. 487 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,140 And were you there by yourself? 488 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:35,340 Yeah. 489 00:29:40,340 --> 00:29:43,100 I do remember speaking to one of the women 490 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:47,100 who worked in the children's home, and I told her. 491 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,580 And that's when she reported it. 492 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:51,860 The police come and seen me. Erm... 493 00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:58,060 And then...nothing after that. 494 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,780 At the same time, in Keighley, I was filming with two mums 495 00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:09,100 whose daughters were being exploited in exactly the same way. 496 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,860 They didn't want to be identified, 497 00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,140 so their voices are actors. 498 00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,620 The door were locked, 499 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:18,380 her mobile phone were taken off her and smashed on the floor. 500 00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:21,260 She was given more drink and she was drugged. 501 00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:23,140 She were led upstairs, 502 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:26,780 and four men sexually abused my daughter for over two hours. 503 00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:33,180 Because Steph had turned 18, 504 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,740 she was the only victim Maggie was given permission to go and talk to. 505 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:45,380 Today, Steph herself, and Maggie, are retracing a journey 506 00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:48,060 they first took 20 years ago, 507 00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:51,020 which was to prove crucial for both of them. 508 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,580 I asked her whether she would be able to show me some of the premises 509 00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:00,420 and she pointed out a couple of takeaway places 510 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:03,100 that she said the rooms upstairs were used 511 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,420 to rape and abuse children. 512 00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:11,260 As we were driving past a park, out of nowhere, 513 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:12,860 Steph said, "Oh, my God." 514 00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:17,540 I remember seeing the car what I'd been picked up in, 515 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:19,900 and I said to you, "That's the car." Yeah. 516 00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:22,180 Cos he picked us up a few times in it 517 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:23,700 from the children's home. 518 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,900 And you weren't in any doubt, were you? No. 519 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:32,300 Not that long after, the male come out who drives that car. 520 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,620 And I remember saying to you, "That was him." 521 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,740 On that journey, when Steph was 18, 522 00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:41,300 she'd spotted one of the men 523 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,140 who'd imprisoned and raped her in a flat for two days. 524 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:46,740 Next thing I remember, 525 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,660 you're sliding down in your chair 526 00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:51,460 to hide yourself from being seen from outside the car. 527 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,500 Maggie went back to the police station 528 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,420 and looked up the car registration 529 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:04,740 on the police national computer to find out who it belonged to. 530 00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:06,500 We got a call back, 531 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,620 and it was the Internal Investigations Department, 532 00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:14,100 and they asked me why had I PNC-ed that vehicle. 533 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,260 And I explained that it had been pointed out 534 00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:21,220 as the car belonging to a child rapist. 535 00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:25,620 And I was told that our team mustn't do anything else 536 00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,380 in relation to that vehicle or that man 537 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,740 because he was a serving police officer 538 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,940 and he was already under investigation for other offences. 539 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,420 Soon after this incident, 540 00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:41,220 Maggie took compassionate leave because her husband was ill. 541 00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:45,540 I came back to work, expecting to go back onto Operation Augusta, 542 00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:50,420 but the whole job had been buried, 543 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:53,820 as though it had never been in existence at all. 544 00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:55,540 Everything had gone. 545 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,420 Operation Augusta was shut down by senior officers 546 00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:05,300 in Greater Manchester in the summer of 2005. 547 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,020 The reason given was lack of resources. 548 00:33:10,060 --> 00:33:12,620 57 victims were left to be exploited, 549 00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:16,300 and 97 perpetrators were left on the streets of Manchester 550 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,580 to continue to abuse children. 551 00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:27,700 For years, I just felt nothing. 552 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,980 I didn't think it was bad, what happened to me. 553 00:33:29,980 --> 00:33:32,060 I was just so confused and angry - 554 00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:35,140 this little teenager that didn't know what was going on in her head, 555 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:36,980 and I'd just explode. 556 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:39,420 Yeah. And, like, I feel like it was a big cry for help. 557 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:45,980 Marlon is Scarlett's dad. 558 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,660 You've got a little girl. 559 00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:55,140 Why don't you just describe her for me when she was growing up? 560 00:33:55,140 --> 00:34:01,500 So, Scarlett, from a very young age, was obsessed with horses. 561 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,220 That's all she spoke about. 562 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,340 I think probably one of the first words were "pony". 563 00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:13,260 Go on, like, fancy dress rides, competitions and stuff. 564 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:15,220 My life just revolved around this horse. 565 00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:18,260 Like, I just loved him to bits. Like, he was like my best friend. 566 00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:21,940 How would I describe her? 567 00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:22,980 A character. 568 00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:27,540 Very funny. A big personality. 569 00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:35,100 I wouldn't say I was naughty or anything, 570 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,460 I'd just say I was a bit of a class clown. 571 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:45,420 Scarlett went to a private school and had a stable upbringing. 572 00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:47,780 She went off the rails after she got attacked 573 00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:51,140 by a group of local kids when she was 13. 574 00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:53,100 She was excluded from school 575 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:54,780 and befriended by an older girl 576 00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:57,620 who took her to parties, where she met the groomers. 577 00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:04,780 So, she'd go missing for a week or two weeks. 578 00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:09,380 And then she'd return home, she'd be dirty, 579 00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:12,140 she'd be extremely skinny 580 00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:16,220 because she's not been eating, taking drugs. 581 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:18,660 My dad would be following me in cars. 582 00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,340 I used to hate him. He was like a police officer. 583 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:22,980 He'd be taking, like, pictures of car reges, 584 00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,340 driving round, following me. 585 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,180 And we'd be doing drugs with men, just off our faces, 586 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:30,380 and we didn't care that my dad was outside. 587 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,460 She'd probably stay with me for about 24 hours, 588 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:38,940 48 hours, eat, shower, 589 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:41,220 clean clothes, and then she'd disappear again. 590 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,780 At crisis point, Marlon made a heart-breaking decision. 591 00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:55,860 Scarlett going into care is the hardest thing I have ever, 592 00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:58,180 ever done in my life. 593 00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,900 That is not an easy thing to do. 594 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,180 I think it was like four men turned up, 595 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:04,020 and they literally dragged me out, 596 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:05,500 didn't tell me where I was going. 597 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,060 I was put in the back of this car at stupid o'clock in the morning 598 00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,460 and taken to Wales. 599 00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:16,740 Scarlett was 15 at the time, just five years ago. 600 00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:21,620 I think they were just seen as problem children, problem families. 601 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:25,420 And I think because it wasn't happening inside the family home, 602 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,820 there was a different attitude towards these young girls. 603 00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:31,380 I think they were seen as... Well, we've seen. 604 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:33,740 We've seen the word prostitute used. 605 00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:38,060 Lots of other derogatory terms used to describe these vulnerable girls 606 00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:39,580 that were being sexually abused, 607 00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:44,060 all of it placing the blame on an individual or her family, 608 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,700 none of it looking at the perpetrators 609 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,900 and what we can do to get them off the streets. 610 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,100 The role models that these young lads are looking up to 611 00:36:55,100 --> 00:37:00,820 are flash cars, money, some kind of criminal, you know, style. 612 00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,860 And, yeah, easy access to women and sex. 613 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,620 If you go for girls under the age of 16, 614 00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:08,140 you're fucked in your head, aren't you? 615 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:10,540 And you've got problems. End of. You deserve to die. 616 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:20,180 By 2008, it was becoming clear that this problem was not confined 617 00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:21,780 just to the north of England. 618 00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:29,100 Thank you, Jade, so much for coming today. That's OK. 619 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,580 Thank you for making the journey and leaving your kids. 620 00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,340 Yes. 621 00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:35,980 Jade is in her 30s. 622 00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:39,940 She feels able to identify herself. 623 00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:44,380 So do you want to just tell me about your early life? 624 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:45,900 Life was good. 625 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,180 It was as good as it could have been. 626 00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:50,020 My mum was absolutely amazing. 627 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:51,300 It was my dad, really. 628 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,140 He was an alcoholic and used to beat my mum up. 629 00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,020 That was the main downfall. 630 00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:01,140 When Jade was 14, 631 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,940 she wasn't getting on with her mum's new boyfriend, 632 00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:07,060 and she eventually moved in with her dad. 633 00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:10,140 Turns out, my dad, he was a raging heroin addict. 634 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:12,820 He used to take me to go and pick up drugs with him. 635 00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:18,820 That's where it all started, with my dad's drug dealers. 636 00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:25,780 They'd pretend to look after me 637 00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:30,300 because I was the young girl who needed someone to look after her. 638 00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:34,380 When me and my dad would argue, 639 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,260 I would run away... 640 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,980 ..and my dad's friends would be the first ones I'd go to. 641 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:42,740 They would get me, erm, 642 00:38:42,740 --> 00:38:45,620 just get me drunk and just make me feel special. 643 00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:49,500 In 2008, when she was still 14, 644 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,460 Jade was placed into care by Buckinghamshire Children's Services. 645 00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:55,820 We would go out for drinks. 646 00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:58,380 Some of my friends would come out, like, it would just all be... 647 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:00,740 ..parties. 648 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:03,860 The more times you go there, the more drunk they'll get you, 649 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:05,260 and then the more things would happen. 650 00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,660 It would get to a point where I'd be like, 651 00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:11,100 "Ah, can we go home now?" 652 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,540 And it would be like, "Right, if you sleep here with him 653 00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:15,380 "and then your friend sleeps with that person, 654 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:17,220 "you can go home." 655 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:19,580 You're in the middle of nowhere, don't have a clue where you are, 656 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:21,580 and don't know how you're going to get home. 657 00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:25,020 You're literally with all of these big men. 658 00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:26,980 What do you do? Yeah. 659 00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:29,180 It just... It's a scary situation. 660 00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:35,180 Do you think about how many men might have actually abused you? 661 00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:39,740 It's in the hundreds, but I just try not to... 662 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:43,380 TEARFULLY: I try not to go there. 663 00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:56,460 Jade was 14 when she was caught up in sexual exploitation 664 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:58,180 in High Wycombe. 665 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:01,180 She still has proof of how the grooming worked. 666 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:02,500 "Hey, how's it's going? 667 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,860 "Got a party down the road, Saturday night. 668 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,220 "Let me know if you want to bring some friends. 669 00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:09,500 "Would love you to join us for fun." 670 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:10,900 "Want to mingle tonight?' 671 00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,100 I said, "Shut up." 672 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,740 "What about tomorrow? I'm going to get some coke and drink 673 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:16,300 "and I'll pick you up for a bit." 674 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:17,700 VOICE ECHOING: "Hi, Jade, how are you?" 675 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:19,500 "If I send a taxi..." "What are you doing tomorrow?" 676 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,300 "Can I come and get you?" "An hour is all it needs." 677 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,300 He was like, "Why don't you come and suck my cock?" 678 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:26,140 I was 14 years old. 679 00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:29,900 I've gone home with black eyes. 680 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:33,460 I've run up the road naked to try and get out of a hotel. 681 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:36,100 And they've just drove up the road and got me again. 682 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,660 So, then, when things like that happen, 683 00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:41,820 the next time, you just do it. 684 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,220 Because you're frightened? Yeah. 685 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:46,900 I've told people that, "I am going to report you." 686 00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:48,940 And it'd be like "Well, go on, then, 687 00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:52,380 "because I will tell them that you drank too much. 688 00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:55,260 "I will tell them that you are the one that tried it on with me." 689 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:04,100 Jade was being controlled by one man she was particularly close to. 690 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,860 He was the one I'd trust. 691 00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:10,100 He introduced me to everyone - his cousins, his uncles. 692 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,500 There'd be times where I'd get a phone call. It'd be like, 693 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:14,740 "Ah, he's been arrested for rape." 694 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:17,060 "No, he hasn't. No, he's not like that. 695 00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:18,460 "That's not him." 696 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:22,300 He's taken me to his taxi base, where seven men took it in turns 697 00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:23,900 with me in the toilet when I was that drunk 698 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,660 that I couldn't even hold myself up, throwing up in the toilet. 699 00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:29,820 He's really brutal. He's just... 700 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,180 Yeah, I don't know if I'm ready to talk about it 701 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:34,500 with him at the minute, if I'm honest. 702 00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:45,580 TEARFULLY: When you think you care for someone 703 00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:47,940 and they put you through all of that, it's mental. 704 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:57,660 In 2009, as Jade and Erin were still being groomed, 705 00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:02,620 I wanted to make another film which tackled the issue of race head-on. 706 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,780 Although a third of men associated with gang grooming were white, 707 00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:14,220 Asian men were massively overrepresented in the figures. 708 00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:16,820 In the film, I wanted to speak directly 709 00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:20,140 to members of the British Pakistani community. 710 00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:23,540 We do have a problem, and obviously it is more, like, 711 00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:26,620 Asian boys who are grooming these girls. 712 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,660 Parents sometimes don't have the confidence to talk 713 00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,940 to their children about sex and about exploitation 714 00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:35,140 and the age of consent and all the rules. 715 00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:37,980 I've got two children. I would talk about it. 716 00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,860 The new generation of parenting, we'll talk about it. 717 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:43,220 It's our parents that it was a taboo for. 718 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:45,940 I wouldn't like it to happen to my 12-year-old daughter, 719 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,100 that's for sure. 720 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:51,860 It would make me very angry and I would want that person locked up. 721 00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:57,020 We're disgusted by it. This is not what we are. 722 00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,940 Our religion and our values as British and Muslim people 723 00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,380 does condemn this altogether. 724 00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:10,460 I was also following the work of police officers in Telford 725 00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:12,820 who were mounting a complex investigation 726 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:16,780 into men who were exploiting young girls in the town. 727 00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,460 The facilitators were actually young Pakistani men. 728 00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:21,820 And the difficulty is, how do you deal with that 729 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:24,780 without being accused of being racist? 730 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,260 My view is this - I've got a bunch of criminals. 731 00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:30,820 I don't care what background they come from, 732 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:32,780 I don't care anything else about them, 733 00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:35,020 other than they're gang raping young girls. 734 00:43:42,980 --> 00:43:46,820 In 2009, police and social workers in High Wycombe 735 00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:50,660 were becoming increasingly concerned about Jade. 736 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:54,180 She was going missing from her children's home on a regular basis. 737 00:43:58,580 --> 00:44:02,900 Thames Valley Police decided to put a police protection order on Jade. 738 00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,700 This means that, if she went missing again, 739 00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,900 the police had to respond immediately. 740 00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:16,540 But she continued to be passed around the groups. 741 00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:26,300 Me and a girl went out one night. 742 00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,460 We went out with one group, 743 00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:29,820 and then that group dropped us off to another group. 744 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:32,300 We went and had a few drinks in their house. 745 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:38,380 I woke up to the police around me. 746 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:42,140 I got taken away, got taken to a police station. 747 00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,500 So I thought I was sitting there waiting to get taken back 748 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,340 to my care home, cos I was reported missing. 749 00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:50,300 The police officers come up and arrested me 750 00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:55,700 for inciting sexual activity, or something, on a minor. 751 00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:00,260 Erm... Yeah, I didn't even know what them words meant. 752 00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:04,220 So I was really... I was just confused about everything, 753 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:07,300 about how they've even put that on me. 754 00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,140 And the charge was that you'd taken somebody from your care home 755 00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:11,980 who was younger than you... Yeah. 756 00:45:11,980 --> 00:45:14,180 ..to go and have sex with these men? Yeah. 757 00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:22,300 Less than a month after being placed under police protection 758 00:45:22,300 --> 00:45:25,380 because she was such a vulnerable young person, 759 00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:29,380 Jade had herself been arrested under grooming charges. 760 00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:33,740 She'd gone from being a victim to a criminal in a matter of weeks. 761 00:45:38,140 --> 00:45:40,860 I got sentenced to a two-year detention training order, 762 00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,340 but I actually done 14 months, 763 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:45,740 and then five years on the sex offenders register. 764 00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:48,860 They said that I'm at risk with people under the age of 18, 765 00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:51,500 that I can't have no contact with anyone under the age of 18, 766 00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:55,140 even though I was under the age of 18 myself. 767 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:58,860 Moved to the adult side on my 18th birthday. 768 00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:00,380 When people found out my offence, 769 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:02,740 obviously I got classed as a nonce in there. 770 00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,340 Yeah, it was pretty brutal. 771 00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:07,860 Jade was serving her sentence 772 00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:11,020 because she took a friend along to one of the so-called parties 773 00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:12,780 organised by the groomers. 774 00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:18,060 Her own perpetrators remained at large. 775 00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:24,740 She was convicted six months after the first major gang grooming trial 776 00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,340 hit the headlines in Derby. 777 00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,980 Nine men were found guilty of serious offences. 778 00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:34,940 These included rape, false imprisonment, 779 00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:38,020 sexual assault, and sexual activity with a child. 780 00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:45,300 I was filming in Derby on the day of the convictions in 2010 781 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,660 when the English Defence League jumped on the case. 782 00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:51,380 We are standing outside this court today 783 00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:54,780 in protest of these members of the Islamic community. 784 00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,340 SHOUTING 785 00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:59,940 They're sexual predators, exactly what the judge has said. 786 00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:03,340 They are sexual predators, and this was all about sexual gratification 787 00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:06,860 against vulnerable young girls. 788 00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:09,620 The rhetoric from those at the top seemed to change 789 00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:11,700 to become one of zero tolerance. 790 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,580 The law should be blind to colour and ethnicity and religion. 791 00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:16,220 Things have to change. 792 00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:18,700 Our most important task is to make sure the police 793 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,900 and prosecutors approach this with the right mindset. 794 00:47:23,780 --> 00:47:28,180 But in Rotherham, after yet another report about the perpetrators 795 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:32,580 was dismissed by council leaders, Jayne had devastating news. 796 00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:34,940 One of the senior managers in Rotherham Borough Council 797 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:39,540 came to see me and told me, as from that day, 798 00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:43,940 Risky Business were no more, and they closed it down. 799 00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:45,700 And then I remember I received a call 800 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,900 asking if I'd be willing to speak to a reporter. 801 00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:53,140 And I just made the decision - absolutely, yes. 802 00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:58,380 She decided to blow the whistle in 2012 803 00:47:58,380 --> 00:48:01,220 to newspaper reporter Andrew Norfolk, 804 00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:03,700 who wrote a series of articles in The Times... 805 00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:07,380 We laid bare a picture of more than a decade in that town 806 00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:10,300 where men had been targeting, grooming, 807 00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,700 pimping, trafficking young girls. 808 00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:18,380 ..and I was starting to think that the tide was actually turning 809 00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:20,860 as more and more cases came to court. 810 00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:23,780 Two pairs of brothers were among five men jailed for life 811 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:26,220 for their part in a paedophile sex grooming ring... 812 00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:27,740 ..guilty of a range of offences, 813 00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:30,180 from rape to conspiracy and trafficking... 814 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,140 ..jailed for crimes against more than a dozen 815 00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:33,620 vulnerable teenage girls... 816 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:37,180 ..today sentenced to a minimum of 95 years in prison. 817 00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:42,340 And the case I'd been following for three years in Telford 818 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:44,820 came to a head in 2013. 819 00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:47,740 You've text that person, 820 00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:50,180 "Were you going to suck my sweet chocolate cock?" 821 00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:52,460 What's that about? No comment. 822 00:48:52,460 --> 00:48:53,740 What did you do with her, then? 823 00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:54,900 What did you do with her? 824 00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:58,420 So you had sex with her? 825 00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:00,780 The Chalice investigation resulted 826 00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:04,620 in eight men being sentenced in total to 59.5 years. 827 00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:12,700 One year later, in 2014, Rotherham exploded. 828 00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,420 My little town became international news. 829 00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:18,780 Breaking news - the release of that shocking report 830 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,140 into allegations of child sex abuse in Rotherham. 831 00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:25,540 At least 1,400 individual children in Rotherham were victims 832 00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:29,340 of sexual exploitation over the 16 years. 833 00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:33,700 Sexually exploited, trafficked to other towns and cities, 834 00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:37,060 abducted, beaten, intimidated. 835 00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:44,020 The 2014 Jay Report into sexual exploitation in Rotherham 836 00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:46,380 was a huge watershed moment. 837 00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:50,140 I had no idea of scale and scope of this type of organised crime. 838 00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:52,820 We've recognised we've failed. We've let our young people down. 839 00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:55,100 As Chief Executive as the council today, 840 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,580 I'm deeply sorry for those events. 841 00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:02,340 The scandal in Rotherham prompted police forces 842 00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:05,500 around the country to re-examine historic cases... 843 00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,020 ..but it took another five years for Greater Manchester Police 844 00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:13,660 to reopen their old files on Operation Augusta, 845 00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:16,140 the inquiry that had left 97 perpetrators 846 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:19,060 on the streets of Manchester in 2005. 847 00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:24,020 I was approached by Greater Manchester Police, 848 00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:26,860 and they said to me that they wanted to make things right 849 00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:30,460 from where things went wrong, from Operation Augusta. 850 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:33,460 She said, "Yeah, you was identified as a child." 851 00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,020 She said, "Will you come and speak to us about it?" 852 00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:37,740 I felt really happy. 853 00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:39,940 I felt like I was going to get justice. 854 00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,700 A review into Operation Augusta had been ordered 855 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,460 15 years after it closed down. 856 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:49,340 The results were damning. 857 00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:52,500 I want to apologise to all of those vulnerable children 858 00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,820 who were let down in 2004, 859 00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:59,140 when Greater Manchester Police did not thoroughly investigate. 860 00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:01,580 I'm committed to doing all that we can to ensure 861 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:07,140 that they receive the justice today that they were denied 15 years ago. 862 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,460 Steph was also contacted by Greater Manchester Police. 863 00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:14,940 They knocked on my door. I was quite shocked. 864 00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:19,260 She believed that one of the men who raped her was a police officer, 865 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:21,620 but she wanted confirmation. 866 00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:26,100 I actually asked, "Did he work for GMP?" 867 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:29,380 They both looked at each other 868 00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:31,300 and said, "Yeah... 869 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:35,620 "..but he no longer works for GMP." 870 00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:39,940 I said, "But if I've picked him out, why has he never been investigated?" 871 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,620 I picked two men out on an ID parade. 872 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:49,140 One of them was the main abuser. 873 00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,740 Soon as I seen him, I knew, 874 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:57,380 and I just remember my whole body just sank. I just felt sick. 875 00:51:58,660 --> 00:52:00,700 I felt like I was going to get justice 876 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,900 and, like, I'd done what I had to do. 877 00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:13,340 While I've been making this film, 878 00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:17,020 we've spoken to many organisations working with vulnerable young people 879 00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:21,740 in towns and cities up and down the country right now. 880 00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:24,420 A care home manager in Blackpool told us that street grooming 881 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:27,060 is the worst she's ever seen. 882 00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:29,100 Jayne and Maggie are both still working 883 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:32,660 with children at risk of gang grooming every day. 884 00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:34,940 And then there's Scarlett. 885 00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:43,060 In 2021, after a year in care, 886 00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:45,340 Scarlett was sent back to Greater Manchester 887 00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:48,060 to live with her dad. She was 16. 888 00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:51,820 I really thought things had changed. 889 00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:55,620 I was very wrong. 890 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:02,740 Because I'd been missing for so long, 891 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:04,340 like, everyone wondered where I'd gone. 892 00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:05,820 When I was back on the scene, like, 893 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:07,780 I feel like people were talking like, "Scarlett's back, 894 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:10,740 "Scarlett's back." And that's when people started messaging. 895 00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:15,900 Scarlett began being groomed again by the same groups. 896 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:18,780 This was as recently as 2022. 897 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,820 I was just straight back into the same stuff, 898 00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:23,540 if not worse than I was when I was 14. 899 00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:25,740 And that's kind of where it all started again. 900 00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:31,100 Within months, Marlon was struggling, 901 00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:35,020 and asked Tameside Social Services to provide some respite care 902 00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:36,940 for Scarlett. 903 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:39,620 Just behind us now was Scarlett's house. 904 00:53:39,620 --> 00:53:42,460 This was terrible. 905 00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:45,660 When she did stay there, she would spend all night smoking cannabis 906 00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:49,340 in the room or being picked up by taxi drivers. 907 00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:55,540 A lot of the staff couldn't speak English, 908 00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:59,300 their English was really poor, so they'd just leave her on her own. 909 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,980 I think they was absolutely clueless. 910 00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:04,340 The staff just stayed in their room all day. 911 00:54:04,340 --> 00:54:06,620 Like, it was a young girl not much older than me. 912 00:54:06,620 --> 00:54:08,060 They didn't care what's going on. 913 00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:11,220 This place, we might as well have all been there alone. 914 00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:14,860 But before long, Scarlett started to be exploited by the groomers 915 00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:16,380 in a different way. 916 00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:21,180 She has a video of herself cutting up crack cocaine 917 00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,260 in the bedroom of this care home, 918 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,620 ready to be sold by one of her groomers. 919 00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:31,220 I'd been given this bag the night before and told, 920 00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:34,420 "It needs to be cut up and ready to sell out to people 921 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:36,780 "the next morning." 922 00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:38,700 I didn't know what I was doing, so, like, when I was cutting it up, 923 00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:40,220 it was just flying everywhere. 924 00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:49,500 She was doing about 200 of these bags a night. 925 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,220 She was also going delivering it. 926 00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:57,580 She was cutting up crack cocaine in a care home 927 00:54:57,580 --> 00:54:59,420 that was used for respite, 928 00:54:59,420 --> 00:55:04,420 that Tameside Children's Services had instructed and paid for. 929 00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:12,260 Amy Clowrey is also Scarlett's lawyer. 930 00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:17,380 It's disappointing that this was within the last five years, 931 00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:19,740 and we should know enough now 932 00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:24,140 to know that Scarlett was being exploited, 933 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,620 and yet no action was being taken against the men. 934 00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:30,780 Scarlett shouldn't have been groomed. 935 00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:33,500 She wasn't protected by Social Services. 936 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:37,140 She wasn't protected by Greater Manchester Police. 937 00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:42,060 And in some ways, I get more distressed about that, because of... 938 00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:46,540 These are the people who you should be relying on 939 00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:48,380 when you can't keep your child safe. 940 00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:58,820 While Scarlett was in the depths of being exploited 941 00:55:58,820 --> 00:56:01,180 for sex and drug running, 942 00:56:01,180 --> 00:56:05,500 West Yorkshire Police were reinvestigating Erin's case. 943 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,060 Were you only abused by Asian men? 944 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:13,980 No. No. There's abusers in every ethnicity. 945 00:56:15,340 --> 00:56:17,300 Erin worked with West Yorkshire Police 946 00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:19,820 for a number of years to get her cases to court. 947 00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:24,780 I had to go through all that trauma of reliving. 948 00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:31,460 How many defence barristers did you have asking you questions? 949 00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:33,820 There were ten barristers. 950 00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:36,660 Some of them, it's like they call you a liar. 951 00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:42,820 You feel like you're on trial. 952 00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:45,020 You feel like you're the perpetrator. 953 00:56:46,220 --> 00:56:49,140 There's no sympathy or anything. 954 00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:51,980 You feel like you're getting attacked constantly. 955 00:56:51,980 --> 00:56:53,700 It is very traumatic. 956 00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:57,700 But I went to court 957 00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:00,940 and I stood my ground and told the truth. 958 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:08,220 Erin was involved in three trials, 959 00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:12,260 and although it's taken many years, her courage means that, so far, 960 00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:16,660 seven men who violently abused her have been convicted. 961 00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:19,460 How did you feel when the verdict came back? 962 00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:21,740 It were just, like, emotions all over. 963 00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:23,460 A total shock. 964 00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:26,940 Like, my body was there, but my mind were elsewhere. 965 00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:31,860 Justice has been served, but why has it took so long? 966 00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:39,420 People say, "All right, then," 967 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:41,700 you know, "Get on with your life now." 968 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:43,580 Like, are you joking? 969 00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:46,060 This has been 22 years of my life, 970 00:57:46,060 --> 00:57:48,980 22 years because of these men. 971 00:57:55,780 --> 00:58:00,260 But gaining convictions is far from the end of the story for victims. 972 00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,100 CHANTING: No more lies, no more shame! 973 00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:07,580 No more lies, no more shame! 974 00:58:07,580 --> 00:58:10,300 This is a protest by a group who believe 975 00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,260 that their relatives and friends have been wrongly convicted 976 00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:14,900 in gang grooming trials 977 00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:17,340 due to racism in the criminal justice system. 978 00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:22,260 Racism in trial is not a thing of the past, 979 00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:25,940 it is a present, ongoing crisis that denies... 980 00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:29,020 I've been following the group online for months. 981 00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:32,740 Fair trials are our aim! No more lies, no more shame! 982 00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:35,740 My team infiltrated the private WhatsApp group run by them. 983 00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:41,420 What they're saying about the victims was truly shocking. 984 00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:57,020 They've also been holding regular live streams on TikTok 985 00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:58,820 for the last year. 986 00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:27,700 While I was listening, I realised that Irfan Khan, 987 00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,660 a groomer from Batley in West Yorkshire 988 00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:35,060 who's serving 12 years for three rapes and one threat to kill, 989 00:59:35,060 --> 00:59:38,100 was actually calling in to the TikTok live from prison, 990 00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:41,100 which is against prison rules and can result in a sanction. 991 00:59:44,060 --> 00:59:45,700 He was one of 28 men convicted 992 00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:48,460 as part of a West Yorkshire Police operation 993 00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:52,180 that led to prison sentences of almost 400 years. 994 01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:12,380 And in another call, Irfan Khan's sister directly names 995 01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:16,780 three victims who went through grooming trials as witnesses 996 01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:19,060 and have been granted lifelong anonymity. 997 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:44,180 Have they broken the law? Yeah, they've broken the law. 998 01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:47,380 It is contempt of court. There's an anonymity order in place. 999 01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:53,300 If I was a victim, I would be frightened 1000 01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:56,100 if information about me was shared on the internet. 1001 01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,740 And if I was somebody that was thinking about 1002 01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:03,340 helping the police, I would be thinking twice about helping them. 1003 01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:05,540 No justice, no peace! 1004 01:01:09,940 --> 01:01:14,740 21 years after the BNP first jumped on the gang grooming story, 1005 01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:19,140 another more surprising intervention, from Elon Musk, 1006 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:21,340 reignites a national debate. 1007 01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:25,420 CHEERING 1008 01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:30,220 Yes! 1009 01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:33,740 In a flurry of posts, 1010 01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:36,420 Elon Musk accuses Keir Starmer directly 1011 01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:39,380 of failing to prosecute gang grooming cases 1012 01:01:39,380 --> 01:01:42,060 during his time as Director of Public Prosecutions. 1013 01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:48,340 Those that are spreading lies and misinformation 1014 01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:50,740 as far and as wide as possible, 1015 01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:53,380 they're not interested in victims. 1016 01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:55,340 They're interested in themselves. 1017 01:01:55,340 --> 01:01:56,860 We need the truth. 1018 01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:58,500 This is not about Elon Musk. 1019 01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:59,620 It's endangering. 1020 01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:01,140 There's a culture of silence. 1021 01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:02,460 We are going to act. 1022 01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:06,620 Musk's intervention does, however, 1023 01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:09,460 prompt the Government to respond four days later. 1024 01:02:09,460 --> 01:02:13,020 We will make it mandatory to report abuse, 1025 01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:16,260 making it an offence to fail to report 1026 01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:19,300 or cover up child sexual abuse. 1027 01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:23,340 I've wrestled with this issue for nearly 30 years 1028 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:26,620 and witnessed countless promises from politicians, 1029 01:02:26,620 --> 01:02:29,300 countless reports and inquiries, 1030 01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:34,500 countless apologies from police, councils, and social services. 1031 01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,340 And throughout, victims' lives 1032 01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:40,780 have been played with in a game of political football. 1033 01:02:40,780 --> 01:02:45,180 For me, this isn't about race or culture or class. 1034 01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:49,220 My focus remains the same as it was three decades ago. 1035 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:51,980 Where is the justice for the victims? 1036 01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:56,820 In Manchester, Chantelle is still waiting for answers. 1037 01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:03,220 You've been engaging with Greater Manchester Police since 2019. 1038 01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:07,300 Yeah. And we're now in... 2024. 1039 01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:10,380 And nothing's been done. 1040 01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:13,140 What's taking so long to charge them? 1041 01:03:13,140 --> 01:03:15,180 I feel like this should have already been dealt with, 1042 01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:17,060 this court case, it should have been done. 1043 01:03:17,060 --> 01:03:20,420 I feel like I've put myself through all that for nothing. 1044 01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:23,700 I don't feel like anything's changed. 1045 01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,980 I just want what they promised me at the beginning, 1046 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:27,500 and that was justice. 1047 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:33,980 After asking about her abuser, 1048 01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:36,980 who was apparently identified as a police officer, 1049 01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:41,940 Steph has not heard from Greater Manchester Police since 2021. 1050 01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:45,580 Do you expect to hear anything from them? 1051 01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,100 No. No. 1052 01:03:49,820 --> 01:03:53,900 I've give up hope. Erm... 1053 01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:56,260 I've been willing to give a statement, 1054 01:03:56,260 --> 01:04:00,140 I've been willing to put these men in jail where they belong 1055 01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:01,980 and to help other people. 1056 01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:06,580 And it's like they're choosing not to...listen to me. 1057 01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:11,980 Because it was one of their own, I do genuinely believe 1058 01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:14,860 that's one of the reasons why they didn't bring him in. 1059 01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:19,460 Since Greater Manchester Police began reinvestigating 1060 01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:22,460 the Augusta perpetrators in 2019, 1061 01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:26,700 so far, only one person has been convicted for child sexual offences. 1062 01:04:27,940 --> 01:04:30,780 This is an operation spanning six years. 1063 01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:36,020 What it absolutely clear is that the mistakes, 1064 01:04:36,020 --> 01:04:39,060 the systemic failure to protect children 1065 01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:41,060 of 10 and 20 years ago, 1066 01:04:41,060 --> 01:04:42,980 as night follows day, 1067 01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:45,940 could not be repeated in Manchester today. 1068 01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:47,500 Of that I am confident. 1069 01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:51,980 There's no point spending all that money 1070 01:04:51,980 --> 01:04:54,820 and all that time getting victims' hopes up, 1071 01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:57,460 and at the end of it we get an apology 1072 01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:01,300 and a protestation that everything's hunky-dory now, 1073 01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:04,260 this is a problem of the past, it doesn't happen now. 1074 01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:07,660 I'm sorry, that's bullshit, because it is happening now. 1075 01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:14,780 No-one's ever been prosecuted for raping you or... No. 1076 01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:17,540 ..grooming or trafficking? No. No. 1077 01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:19,900 Do you want people to be arrested? 1078 01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:24,220 I didn't when I was younger, but now I do, yeah, all of them. 1079 01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:25,460 They never got charged for me, 1080 01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:27,300 so now they've moved on to the next person. 1081 01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:29,780 It's probably some other little girl now. 1082 01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:34,980 It's only girls that don't have dads like me 1083 01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:36,900 and don't have family 1084 01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,180 that are crying out for help and no-one's seeing. 1085 01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:46,940 It's not often Scarlett cries, 1086 01:05:46,940 --> 01:05:50,020 and she rang me up last night in tears, 1087 01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:55,860 and she couldn't understand why I've stuck by her through all this. 1088 01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:58,820 And I explained to her she's my daughter 1089 01:05:58,820 --> 01:06:01,340 and...it's unconditional love. 1090 01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:12,420 14 years on from Jade's conviction, 1091 01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:16,060 she now lives with her children, and she's very close to her mum. 1092 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:22,820 But she remains a convicted sex offender. 1093 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:27,740 I would really love to overturn my charge 1094 01:06:27,740 --> 01:06:31,580 and get my name cleared and prove that I was a victim, 1095 01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:33,460 because that is what I was. 1096 01:06:33,460 --> 01:06:36,580 And the person that essentially was your groomer, 1097 01:06:36,580 --> 01:06:39,420 has he ever had any charges brought against him? No. 1098 01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:43,660 No, still walking free, living his happy life with his wife and kids. 1099 01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,020 At my kids' school, they do a minor CRB check 1100 01:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,980 if you want to go with the kids on a school trip. 1101 01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:54,820 Never been able to do that. 1102 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:58,100 I've never been able to experience a school trip with my kids... 1103 01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:04,580 ..because they class me as a sex offender. 1104 01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,860 I'm angry, 1105 01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:20,380 angry that the five women in our film 1106 01:07:20,380 --> 01:07:23,380 estimate that they've been collectively abused 1107 01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:26,420 by hundreds and hundreds of men, 1108 01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:28,540 and that out of all of them, 1109 01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:32,100 only Erin has had justice, against just seven men. 1110 01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:38,780 I'd hoped I would never have to return to this subject, 1111 01:07:38,780 --> 01:07:42,380 but we know from all our conversations over the last year 1112 01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:45,300 that our five women represent thousands 1113 01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:48,700 and thousands and thousands across the country 1114 01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:51,220 whose voices have never been heard. 1115 01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:01,300 I think everything I've been through has only made me tougher. Yeah. 1116 01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:03,660 I'm a really good parent to my children, 1117 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:06,820 and I feel like if I wouldn't have gone through all that, 1118 01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:10,100 maybe I wouldn't be the person I am today. 1119 01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:14,100 I am proud of who I am and what I've been through. 1120 01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,460 I'm not ashamed any more - 1121 01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:20,020 I was. For many years, I had this big dark hole, 1122 01:08:20,020 --> 01:08:23,100 but now I feel a lot better about everything. 1123 01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:26,820 OK, well done. That's brilliant. 1124 01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,780 Thank you. You're welcome. Are you OK? Yeah. 1125 01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:37,380 Thank you. 1126 01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:40,700 Thank you. Let's cut. Thank you. Cheers. 1127 01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:43,180 Well done. You did great. Thank you. Thank you so much. 1128 01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:44,580 Thank you so much. 93871

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