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Thank you, Jade, so much
for coming today. It's OK.
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Do you think about how many men
might have actually abused you?
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It's in the hundreds,
but I just try not to...
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TEARFULLY: ..try not to go there.
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This is the story of five women...
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One day it was like 11 men
that all done something to me.
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I told the police on numerous
occasions. Nothing ever got done.
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..a story I found out about
nearly 30 years ago.
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There they are, that's them.
Three cars.
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The men used to pick us up
from school
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and the school teachers and the
headteacher used to watch them.
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They kept me in a flat
for two days...
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..where they took turns on me.
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And were you there by yourself?
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Yeah.
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A story set against
a political fire storm...
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MAN ON LOUD-HAILER: Young girls are
being systematically raped
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by Muslim paedophile perverts.
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Most of these victims are
absolute liars,
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and they still get away with it.
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When the police do knock
on their door,
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they're like,
"My husband would never do that."
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..which exploded again in
January this year.
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Lies and misinformation.
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ROARING: Yes!
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I've been a film-maker for 30
years,
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and I was already going back
through my own archives.
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Men. Asian men,
blaming the Asian men.
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Can I just ask you this?
What is it? Why Asians? No.
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Well, what about the white guys
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that are raping their own daughters
and stuff?
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And I've spent the last year
re-piecing together this history.
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But also finding out
what is still happening now.
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I don't know what to say, like,
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to people that say
it's not happening.
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Everything that's happened to me,
that's your evidence,
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and it's still happening.
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They're not gonna stop.
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It's a story told by
the people who really matter,
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the people who feel
they've been silenced -
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the survivors.
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We are not the problem.
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Them men are the problem.
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This is a film I hoped
I'd never have to make.
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Its subject has haunted me
most of my working life,
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and it's still going on now.
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When I was 28,
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I first found out about
British schoolgirls
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being groomed into
sexual exploitation.
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At that point,
I was a young researcher.
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I'd never directed a film.
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Oh, gosh, this is it.
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Back in 1996, I met the director of
a Barnardo's project in Bradford
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called Streets And Lanes.
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That meeting changed
the course of my life.
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Children are victims,
not prostitutes, say Barnardo's.
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Barnardo's told me about
a pattern of abuse
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that they'd been documenting for
a full year.
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At that time, the victims were
called child prostitutes.
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And what I knew from this research,
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but was never released to the press,
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was that in Bradford in 1996,
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the deeply unpalatable fact
was that the perpetrators
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were overwhelmingly
British Pakistani men.
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And, for the last three decades,
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however troubling this was,
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I knew I couldn't shy away
from that truth.
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Right.
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Chantelle, scene one, take one.
Marking.
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CLAPPER BOARD CLICKS
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Are you OK, Chantelle?
Yeah.
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Yeah?
I'm fine.
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So, look, thank you so much
for coming today,
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and thank you for wanting
to be involved with this film.
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Today I'm meeting Chantelle.
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She feels ready to identify herself.
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She's now in her 30s,
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but her story starts
in the early 2000s.
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When I was growing up, my mum was
in and out of prison a lot.
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So, Social Services got involved,
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cos my dad was unable
to look after all of us on his own.
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Chantelle and her four brothers and
sisters were all placed in care.
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I actually preferred being in care.
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I was going to school,
I was being fed,
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I was having a bath,
I was making friends.
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It was quite nice at first.
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And how old were you at that
point, Chantelle,
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when you first went into care?
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I was eight years old.
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You moved around quite a lot,
didn't you, in those early years?
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Yeah. In total, from being
around nine, up until I was 17,
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I think I had 40-odd different
placements, residential and fosters.
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When she was 11,
Chantelle was moved
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to emergency accommodation
in Manchester.
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Before long, men started turning up
outside the children's home.
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So, my children's home
was on the right.
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A bunch of men used to just sit
on the wall outside the home.
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And I ended up getting into
what I thought was a relationship.
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There was like no sexual intercourse
or anything at first,
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it was all food, beer, cigarettes.
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And then he introduced cannabis.
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They used to put pills
into my drinks
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and try and give me cocaine
and stuff like that.
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It progressed quite quickly
to a sexual relationship.
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It was only with the one guy
for about a week or two.
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And then a car used to come,
and there'd be a driver,
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and there'd be two men in the back -
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one that I genuinely thought
was my boyfriend at first.
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He used to bring his friends
in the car,
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and I used to have to, like,
do oral sex on them and...
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That was when you were still 11,
you were doing all of that?
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Yeah. OK. And when you said you
thought this guy was your boyfriend,
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can you remember how old he was?
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He was at least 20.
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Can you just tell me
why you want to remain anonymous?
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Cos I'm not ready
to come public yet,
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and to, obviously,
to protect my child.
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Yeah, OK.
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I'm interviewing Erin.
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Her hands and her voice are real.
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But the face you are seeing
is an actor's.
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Why do you think
you want to do this today?
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To tell what the real truth were,
because I got silenced as a child.
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How...how did you get silenced
as a child?
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The police and the Social Services
made me feel like it was my fault.
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And, inside, I were screaming.
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But nobody were listening.
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Erin's story begins
in the early 2000s.
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Growing up, we were
like a big family.
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They were at always, like,
my grandma's and stuff,
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and all the cousins
were like together,
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but I always just felt like
I didn't fit in anywhere.
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I loved my family.
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But I found it really difficult.
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It started at the age of 12.
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We just went into town.
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And there were these
young Asian boys
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that were kind of
the same age as us.
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And we were just like
hanging about the bus station.
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That happened for a couple of weeks.
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And then the boys
introduced their uncles.
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First person that raped me,
I was aged 13.
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I just wanted to be accepted.
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And that's why, I think,
a lot of the time,
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I let the men...do stuff to me.
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You know, because I was scared
to say no.
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The pattern of how to groom a child
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that Barnardo's documented
in 1996 was new.
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But its five stages have become
frighteningly familiar now.
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These are my original notes
that I've kept for 30 years.
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Stage one - a young girl, normally
aged 13,
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is courted by an older man
aged 18 to 25.
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The girl thinks she falls in love
and perceives him as her boyfriend.
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Stage two - the guys starts
to demand dependency from the girl.
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He'll be jealous and start to
isolate from friends and family.
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Stage three - by this point,
the guy has got control.
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"You'll do this
for me if you love me."
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The fear of violence enters.
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Stage four - drugs enter.
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The final stage is prostitution,
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but it would never be expressed
in that language.
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The girl is asked to sleep
with his mates.
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She's doing him a favour.
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They just kept coming and coming.
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I think I was going missing every
day from that children's home.
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I remember one day, like,
I was high on drugs,
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off all these drugs they'd give me,
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and I was trying to run away.
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And they put me in the car
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and they ended up taking us
to a hotel in town.
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And we was there
for like four days,
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and men was just coming
and going.
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And, in the end, they was like,
"Here's a load of money."
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Took us to the Arndale Centre
and bought me a gold ring,
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a mobile phone.
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And then dropped us back off at
the children's home.
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There was another incident where
I was anally raped by these men,
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and, like, passed about.
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One day, there was like 11 men
that all done something to me.
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And they wouldn't let us go.
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I told the police
on numerous occasions,
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and there was never, ever
any follow-ups.
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All they done was took
the mobile phone off me,
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and the ring that they bought me.
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They'd pick us up from school,
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and the school teachers and the
headteacher used to watch them.
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They'd, like,
threaten my family and stuff.
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What would they threaten to do
to your family?
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Erm, to rape my mum and my sister,
and to petrol-bomb the house.
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My mum,
she were upset and stuff,
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and reported stuff to the police,
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but the police weren't bothered.
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They said, "Well, you know,
it's her lifestyle choices."
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These people that were meant
to protect you,
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and they're calling you
a prostitute.
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Erin was 14 at this point.
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Police were saying, apparently,
I was a prostitute,
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and I was putting myself at risk.
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But if they're coming to my home
and approaching me,
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or I'm not getting took back
for days,
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that's not me prostituting myself,
do you know?
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That was me being took advantage of.
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I was just crying out for help,
to be honest.
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Nothing ever got done.
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You might think that
because Chantelle
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and Erin's cases happened
20 years ago,
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it's a scandal,
but it couldn't possibly happen now.
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But the reason I decided to go back
to investigate
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was that my police sources from
the early 2000s were telling me
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that this exact pattern
was still happening today.
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Why don't you wanna be
identified today?
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I'm living in the middle
of where I was being groomed.
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Like, it's too much of a risk
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for me to be putting my face on
to be noticed.
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Sure.
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Scarlett is now 20 and,
as recently as two years ago,
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was caught up in
a cycle of exploitation
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that started when she was 14.
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She feels it's too dangerous
to identify,
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so we're replacing her face
with an actor's,
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but her voice and her hands
are real.
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14th of September 2022,
this was a taxi driver,
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he used to pick me up
and take me to Rochdale.
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He'd be sent to go and pick you up?
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Yeah. I didn't use to pay.
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THUNDER RUMBLES
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In 2022,
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Scarlett was trafficked
for sex around the country.
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Wolverhampton, Bradford,
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Birmingham, Dudley.
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It's only looking back at my
Snapchat memories
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to see where I was that I knew
I was in these places.
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Like, I couldn't even remember
being there.
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Yeah.
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How many girls
do you think you know
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that are still
right in the middle of it?
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Erm, the people that
I personally know in Tameside,
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probably like three,
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but then, if you're going up
and down the country,
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like, I've met so many girls.
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Still see them on a daily basis,
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some of these people
walking around.
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Do they see you?
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Erm, no, cos they don't
recognise what I look like any more.
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But I know them, like.
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When I see them,
I know exactly who they are.
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You don't know what to say, like,
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to people that say
it's not happening.
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Everything that's happened to me,
that's your evidence,
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and it's still happening.
They're not gonna stop,
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Like, it's actually organised crime.
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I've made lots of films in my career
about child sexual abuse.
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And the statistics show that
the vast majority of abuse
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is carried out in the home or in an
institution, by someone you know.
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And the vast majority of offenders
in the UK are white.
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But, as I started to investigate
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this particular pattern
of child sexual abuse,
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I needed to understand
the specific nature
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of the cases that involve
British Pakistani perpetrators.
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When I looked back through
my archive,
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I found this footage
of two men in Sheffield
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who told us why such young girls
were being targeted.
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Why 13-year-old girls?
Why not older girls?
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It's cos the younger girls,
it's easy to take advantage.
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Cos when they're 18, 19,
they don't really fall
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for little things like that.
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They listen cos they're vulnerable.
They can never get out.
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It's important for me to go back
to find out who knew what, when.
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I decided to track down some of
the other women
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who've been involved in exposing
child sexual exploitation.
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One of them is Jayne Senior
in Rotherham.
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In 1999, I applied for a job
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to manage
the Risky Business project.
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And it was initially set up
to work with girls
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and children involved
in prostitution.
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It wasn't very long before
we began to recognise
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that you cannot put the word 'child'
and 'prostitute'
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in the same sentence.
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Because, actually, we were talking
about children
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that were being exploited,
trafficked, tortured, raped.
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In 2000, some of Jayne's cases
were examined for a research project
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funded by the Home Office, on child
sexual exploitation in Rotherham.
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This report was never published,
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but we've been given
an original copy.
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Astonishingly, it says that
268 young women
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were known to Jayne's team,
and a further 63 were at risk.
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That's 331 young women
at risk in 2002.
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The report identified that were
a lot of gaps and a lot of faults.
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And it was sent off
to senior managers in the council,
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and it was sent off to
the Home Office.
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And it just then became toxic.
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Why? Because they didn't
want to hear what we had found,
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even though it was truthful
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and it was actually helping
to protect these children.
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Was there a reluctance in Rotherham
to face it head-on
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because the perpetrators
were overwhelming British Pakistani?
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I think there was.
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I was told on more than one occasion
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I needed to stop rocking
the multicultural boat.
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It were just kind of swept away
and swept under the carpet.
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It's so shocking to think that
the Home Office
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and Rotherham Council knew in 2002
how children were being failed
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and known perpetrators were left
to carry on abusing,
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and chose to do nothing
other than bury that report.
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Only a few miles away,
in West Yorkshire,
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Erin's grooming had reached the
stage where she was being controlled
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by one man she thought
was her boyfriend.
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He used to pick me up from home,
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and one of the times,
him and his cousin raped me
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at the same time,
in Leeds.
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Obviously, I told him no,
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but they had vaginal and anal sex
at the same time.
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It really hurt.
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And that must have been absolutely
terrifying for you.
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It were.
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SHE SNIFFS
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I kept on screaming,
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like, "Get off me" and stuff.
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Yeah, I just wanted it to stop.
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But he didn't...he didn't listen.
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It...it just felt pain going
through like my whole body.
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And then, when they was done
with me,
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I were crying and screaming
and saying,
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"Why would you do that?"
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Him and his cousin drove me back
to my house, and he, erm,
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told me that if I ever spoke
about it, then he'd kill me,
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and he threw me into
my mum and dad's garden.
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TEARFULLY: I just felt disgusting.
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After Erin's horrific assault
at the hands of two men,
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her mum took her
to the police station.
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My mum gave them my knickers
and, like, my phone and stuff.
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She were kicking off
with them, saying,
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"She's got bite marks
from head to toe,"
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saying that I had semen
in my knickers.
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But they didn't care.
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They were just like, "What do you
want us to do about it?"
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Amy Clowrey is a specialist
child abuse lawyer,
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and she represents Erin.
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I can't understand why a vulnerable
child has been violently raped
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by a number of people,
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semen has been provided
to the police,
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and they've not been able
to do anything with that,
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and just essentially
let that person get away with it.
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And I think
what is really worrying from that,
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you can understand why these girls
thought that those men
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weren't doing anything wrong,
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because if they were doing
something wrong,
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surely the police would have done
something about it?
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At the same time, in Manchester,
in 2003,
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things were about to change.
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There was a girl who lived local
called Victoria.
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And when I used to go round
to this flat,
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sometimes she'd be, like,
hanging around, or with this man.
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And I remember her because she used
to have all her hair scraped back
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and a plait and big earrings.
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She always had a smile on her face,
she was always happy.
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And she looked like
she was in love with this man.
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He was a lot older than Victoria.
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So, you were 11 at that point.
How old was Victoria, do you think?
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I think she was 15, nearly 16.
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REPORTER: Victoria Agoglia lived a
short and horrific life -
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beaten, raped
and injected with heroin.
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Chantelle's friend,
Victoria Agoglia,
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died in September 2003,
when she was just 15...
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..five days after being
forcibly injected with heroin
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by an older man.
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REPORTER: ...hospital that
Vicky died on Monday
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from a suspected drugs overdose.
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Her abuser was eventually jailed
for two-and-half years,
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but Victoria's death spurred the
police in Manchester into action.
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I was asked to join a job that
became known as Operation Augusta.
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It was my first introduction
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to what has been now recognised
as grooming gangs.
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Maggie scene one, take one. Marking.
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CLAPPER BOARD CLICKS
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Maggie Oliver is another woman
who's traversed
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the same period of history as me.
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She was a Detective Constable
on this new team.
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Within the space of, really,
weeks, we had dozens of men,
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virtually all Pakistani men.
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They were sending younger boys
to pick up children
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from the children's homes,
a pattern that's well known now.
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The children were all in care
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from the age of 11 up until 16,
really.
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And they were just
like cannon fodder.
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Seeing them parked there just makes
you feel sick,
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knowing the amount of times
young girls are being brought here.
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And that, even the police came,
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they would still
just be left there.
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At the same time in Bradford,
in 2003,
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I was making a film called
Edge Of The City.
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In most cases where we have a crime,
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we have a victim that comes forward
and says, "I'm a victim of crime."
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This is unusual because we don't
have girls actually saying...
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..saying that, in most cases.
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It's not about colour,
it's not about religion.
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It's about young girls
getting abused by young men.
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What you uncovered in Yorkshire
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was exactly what was happening
in Manchester in 2004.
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Riots across the Pennines happened
in the summer of 2001.
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In Bradford,
the city was still on edge,
402
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and the ethnicity of the grooming
gangs was the touch paper.
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Local elections in
Bradford were looming,
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with ten BNP candidates standing.
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And Edge Of The City
was about to air.
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The Chief Constable of West
Yorkshire wrote to Channel 4,
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saying, "The film will increase
community tensions,
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"with a consequent risk it will
provoke public disorder."
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The film was postponed
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and transmitted a few months later,
unchanged.
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But gang grooming had become a
deeply polarising political issue.
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The only time I can look back
and I was really, really happy
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and I felt like I fitted in
was when I lived in Wales.
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I lived with a foster family
called Julie and Tony.
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Julie, I still class her as my mum,
still to this day.
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Still only 11, Chantelle managed
to escape her abusers.
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She was moved out of Manchester
to Wales.
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I lived a lovely, friendly,
happy life.
419
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We used to always go to the beach.
It was dead nice.
420
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Chantelle had been in this
foster placement
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for two years when things started
to break down.
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They didn't tell Julie that before
I went there, I was abused.
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So, she wasn't aware, so it was...
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The placement broke down.
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So, then you came back
to Manchester? Yeah.
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And then it pretty quickly resumed,
did it?
427
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Yeah.
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We had identified
97 child rapists.
429
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We had identified
about three dozen children
430
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who were being raped
pretty much every day.
431
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So, Chantelle was one of
the children whose name
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was on our Augusta list.
But I never met her.
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No-one had told Chantelle
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that she'd been identified
by Operation Augusta
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as a child at risk.
436
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She's the first child from
the Augusta investigation
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to waive their anonymity.
438
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I remember going mad
at my social worker,
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saying I wanted to move,
440
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and that I didn't want them
to come to the home any more.
441
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And nothing got done about it -
442
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nothing got stopped,
they didn't move me.
443
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Your perpetrators were largely
Pakistani men, weren't they?
444
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Yeah. Did you ever feel that there
was a reluctance
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to deal with it
because of that issue?
446
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,500
I've never really
fully understood why.
447
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Is it because they don't wanna be
classed as racist,
448
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or is it because we have genuinely
just got no-one that cares?
449
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In May 2004,
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Maggie and her colleagues presented
their findings to senior officers.
451
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The Augusta Report was
never published
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by Greater Manchester Police,
453
00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:19,540
but we've tracked down
an original copy.
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It said that the perpetrators
were almost exclusively Asian males.
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And that the offences ranged from
assault and harassment
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to rape and manslaughter.
457
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We were told it had been accepted
that it was a major incident.
458
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We would be given
a full major incident team
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to properly resource,
investigate and prosecute.
460
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And we were all...
461
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..happy as Larry, really,
462
00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:52,180
knowing that these men
were not gonna be allowed
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to destroy more generations
of children.
464
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:12,780
All good? Yeah.
465
00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:16,500
I've come to meet Steph,
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who was also one of
the children in Operation Augusta.
467
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She doesn't want us to identify her,
468
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so her face is an actor's,
469
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:27,020
and her voice
and her hands are real.
470
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Do you wanna just tell me
a little bit about your early life?
471
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I did a lot of homes,
I did a lot of foster placements.
472
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I don't think I really stayed
in one particular place
473
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for more than six month a year.
474
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I moved into a children's home.
475
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,220
I started going out
with some of the girls,
476
00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:49,460
who introduced me to these men.
477
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:55,060
Someone picked me up
from the children's home,
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00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:57,420
took me to this flat.
479
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I remember looking
at how shiny his shoes were,
480
00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:03,780
and I actually asked him
what was his job.
481
00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,220
Cos there was two of them,
dressed identical.
482
00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:09,980
Erm, they said that they were
security guards.
483
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,860
They kept me in a flat for two days.
484
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:25,860
The big one took me into
the bedroom,
485
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:27,180
telling me to relax.
486
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And then the next one would come in
and they just took turns.
487
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And were you there by yourself?
488
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:35,340
Yeah.
489
00:29:40,340 --> 00:29:43,100
I do remember speaking to
one of the women
490
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:47,100
who worked in the children's home,
and I told her.
491
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,580
And that's when she reported it.
492
00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:51,860
The police come and seen me.
Erm...
493
00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:58,060
And then...nothing after that.
494
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,780
At the same time, in Keighley,
I was filming with two mums
495
00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:09,100
whose daughters were being
exploited in exactly the same way.
496
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,860
They didn't want to be identified,
497
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,140
so their voices are actors.
498
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,620
The door were locked,
499
00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:18,380
her mobile phone were taken off her
and smashed on the floor.
500
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:21,260
She was given more drink
and she was drugged.
501
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:23,140
She were led upstairs,
502
00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:26,780
and four men sexually abused
my daughter for over two hours.
503
00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:33,180
Because Steph had turned 18,
504
00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,740
she was the only victim Maggie was
given permission to go and talk to.
505
00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:45,380
Today, Steph herself, and Maggie,
are retracing a journey
506
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:48,060
they first took 20 years ago,
507
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:51,020
which was to prove crucial
for both of them.
508
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,580
I asked her whether she would be
able to show me some of the premises
509
00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:00,420
and she pointed out a couple of
takeaway places
510
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:03,100
that she said the rooms upstairs
were used
511
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,420
to rape and abuse children.
512
00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:11,260
As we were driving past a park,
out of nowhere,
513
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:12,860
Steph said, "Oh, my God."
514
00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:17,540
I remember seeing the car
what I'd been picked up in,
515
00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:19,900
and I said to you,
"That's the car." Yeah.
516
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:22,180
Cos he picked us up
a few times in it
517
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:23,700
from the children's home.
518
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,900
And you weren't in any doubt,
were you? No.
519
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:32,300
Not that long after, the male come
out who drives that car.
520
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,620
And I remember saying to you,
"That was him."
521
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,740
On that journey, when Steph was 18,
522
00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:41,300
she'd spotted one of the men
523
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,140
who'd imprisoned and raped her
in a flat for two days.
524
00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:46,740
Next thing I remember,
525
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,660
you're sliding down in your chair
526
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:51,460
to hide yourself from being seen
from outside the car.
527
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,500
Maggie went back to
the police station
528
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,420
and looked up the car registration
529
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:04,740
on the police national computer
to find out who it belonged to.
530
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:06,500
We got a call back,
531
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,620
and it was the Internal
Investigations Department,
532
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:14,100
and they asked me
why had I PNC-ed that vehicle.
533
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,260
And I explained that it had been
pointed out
534
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:21,220
as the car belonging to
a child rapist.
535
00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:25,620
And I was told that our team
mustn't do anything else
536
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,380
in relation
to that vehicle or that man
537
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,740
because he was a serving
police officer
538
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,940
and he was already under
investigation for other offences.
539
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,420
Soon after this incident,
540
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:41,220
Maggie took compassionate leave
because her husband was ill.
541
00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:45,540
I came back to work, expecting
to go back onto Operation Augusta,
542
00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:50,420
but the whole job had been buried,
543
00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:53,820
as though it had never been in
existence at all.
544
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:55,540
Everything had gone.
545
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,420
Operation Augusta was shut down
by senior officers
546
00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:05,300
in Greater Manchester
in the summer of 2005.
547
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,020
The reason given was
lack of resources.
548
00:33:10,060 --> 00:33:12,620
57 victims were left
to be exploited,
549
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:16,300
and 97 perpetrators were left on
the streets of Manchester
550
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,580
to continue to abuse children.
551
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:27,700
For years, I just felt nothing.
552
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,980
I didn't think it was bad,
what happened to me.
553
00:33:29,980 --> 00:33:32,060
I was just so confused and angry -
554
00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:35,140
this little teenager that didn't
know what was going on in her head,
555
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:36,980
and I'd just explode.
556
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:39,420
Yeah. And, like, I feel like it was
a big cry for help.
557
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:45,980
Marlon is Scarlett's dad.
558
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,660
You've got a little girl.
559
00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:55,140
Why don't you just describe her
for me when she was growing up?
560
00:33:55,140 --> 00:34:01,500
So, Scarlett, from a very young age,
was obsessed with horses.
561
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,220
That's all she spoke about.
562
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,340
I think probably one of
the first words were "pony".
563
00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:13,260
Go on, like, fancy dress rides,
competitions and stuff.
564
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:15,220
My life just revolved around
this horse.
565
00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:18,260
Like, I just loved him to bits.
Like, he was like my best friend.
566
00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:21,940
How would I describe her?
567
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:22,980
A character.
568
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:27,540
Very funny.
A big personality.
569
00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:35,100
I wouldn't say I was naughty
or anything,
570
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,460
I'd just say I was
a bit of a class clown.
571
00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:45,420
Scarlett went to a private school
and had a stable upbringing.
572
00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:47,780
She went off the rails
after she got attacked
573
00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:51,140
by a group of local kids
when she was 13.
574
00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:53,100
She was excluded from school
575
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:54,780
and befriended by an older girl
576
00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:57,620
who took her to parties,
where she met the groomers.
577
00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:04,780
So, she'd go missing for
a week or two weeks.
578
00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:09,380
And then she'd return home,
she'd be dirty,
579
00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:12,140
she'd be extremely skinny
580
00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:16,220
because she's not been eating,
taking drugs.
581
00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:18,660
My dad would be following
me in cars.
582
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,340
I used to hate him.
He was like a police officer.
583
00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:22,980
He'd be taking, like,
pictures of car reges,
584
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,340
driving round, following me.
585
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,180
And we'd be doing drugs with men,
just off our faces,
586
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:30,380
and we didn't care
that my dad was outside.
587
00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,460
She'd probably stay with me
for about 24 hours,
588
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:38,940
48 hours, eat, shower,
589
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:41,220
clean clothes, and then
she'd disappear again.
590
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,780
At crisis point, Marlon made
a heart-breaking decision.
591
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:55,860
Scarlett going into care
is the hardest thing I have ever,
592
00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:58,180
ever done in my life.
593
00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,900
That is not an easy thing to do.
594
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,180
I think it was like four men
turned up,
595
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:04,020
and they literally dragged me out,
596
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:05,500
didn't tell me where I was going.
597
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,060
I was put in the back of this car
at stupid o'clock in the morning
598
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,460
and taken to Wales.
599
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:16,740
Scarlett was 15 at the time,
just five years ago.
600
00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:21,620
I think they were just seen as
problem children, problem families.
601
00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:25,420
And I think because it wasn't
happening inside the family home,
602
00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,820
there was a different attitude
towards these young girls.
603
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:31,380
I think they were seen as...
Well, we've seen.
604
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:33,740
We've seen the word prostitute used.
605
00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:38,060
Lots of other derogatory terms used
to describe these vulnerable girls
606
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:39,580
that were being sexually abused,
607
00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:44,060
all of it placing the blame
on an individual or her family,
608
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,700
none of it looking at
the perpetrators
609
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,900
and what we can do
to get them off the streets.
610
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,100
The role models that these
young lads are looking up to
611
00:36:55,100 --> 00:37:00,820
are flash cars, money, some kind of
criminal, you know, style.
612
00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,860
And, yeah, easy access
to women and sex.
613
00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,620
If you go for girls
under the age of 16,
614
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:08,140
you're fucked in your head,
aren't you?
615
00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:10,540
And you've got problems.
End of. You deserve to die.
616
00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:20,180
By 2008, it was becoming clear
that this problem was not confined
617
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:21,780
just to the north of England.
618
00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:29,100
Thank you, Jade, so much
for coming today. That's OK.
619
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,580
Thank you for making the journey
and leaving your kids.
620
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,340
Yes.
621
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:35,980
Jade is in her 30s.
622
00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:39,940
She feels able to identify herself.
623
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:44,380
So do you want to just tell me
about your early life?
624
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:45,900
Life was good.
625
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,180
It was as good
as it could have been.
626
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:50,020
My mum was absolutely amazing.
627
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:51,300
It was my dad, really.
628
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,140
He was an alcoholic
and used to beat my mum up.
629
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,020
That was the main downfall.
630
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:01,140
When Jade was 14,
631
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,940
she wasn't getting on
with her mum's new boyfriend,
632
00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:07,060
and she eventually moved in
with her dad.
633
00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:10,140
Turns out, my dad,
he was a raging heroin addict.
634
00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:12,820
He used to take me to go
and pick up drugs with him.
635
00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:18,820
That's where it all started,
with my dad's drug dealers.
636
00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:25,780
They'd pretend to look after me
637
00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:30,300
because I was the young girl who
needed someone to look after her.
638
00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:34,380
When me and my dad would argue,
639
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,260
I would run away...
640
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,980
..and my dad's friends would be
the first ones I'd go to.
641
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:42,740
They would get me, erm,
642
00:38:42,740 --> 00:38:45,620
just get me drunk
and just make me feel special.
643
00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:49,500
In 2008, when she was still 14,
644
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,460
Jade was placed into care by
Buckinghamshire Children's Services.
645
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:55,820
We would go out for drinks.
646
00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:58,380
Some of my friends would come out,
like, it would just all be...
647
00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:00,740
..parties.
648
00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:03,860
The more times you go there,
the more drunk they'll get you,
649
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:05,260
and then the more things
would happen.
650
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,660
It would get to
a point where I'd be like,
651
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:11,100
"Ah, can we go home now?"
652
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,540
And it would be like,
"Right, if you sleep here with him
653
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:15,380
"and then your friend
sleeps with that person,
654
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:17,220
"you can go home."
655
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:19,580
You're in the middle of nowhere,
don't have a clue where you are,
656
00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:21,580
and don't know
how you're going to get home.
657
00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:25,020
You're literally with
all of these big men.
658
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:26,980
What do you do?
Yeah.
659
00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:29,180
It just... It's a scary situation.
660
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:35,180
Do you think about how many men
might have actually abused you?
661
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:39,740
It's in the hundreds,
but I just try not to...
662
00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:43,380
TEARFULLY: I try not to go there.
663
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:56,460
Jade was 14 when she was caught up
in sexual exploitation
664
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:58,180
in High Wycombe.
665
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:01,180
She still has proof
of how the grooming worked.
666
00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:02,500
"Hey, how's it's going?
667
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,860
"Got a party down the road,
Saturday night.
668
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,220
"Let me know if you want to
bring some friends.
669
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:09,500
"Would love you to join us
for fun."
670
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:10,900
"Want to mingle tonight?'
671
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,100
I said, "Shut up."
672
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,740
"What about tomorrow?
I'm going to get some coke and drink
673
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:16,300
"and I'll pick you up for a bit."
674
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:17,700
VOICE ECHOING: "Hi, Jade,
how are you?"
675
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:19,500
"If I send a taxi..."
"What are you doing tomorrow?"
676
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,300
"Can I come and get you?"
"An hour is all it needs."
677
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,300
He was like, "Why don't you come
and suck my cock?"
678
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:26,140
I was 14 years old.
679
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:29,900
I've gone home with black eyes.
680
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:33,460
I've run up the road naked
to try and get out of a hotel.
681
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:36,100
And they've just drove up the road
and got me again.
682
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,660
So, then, when things
like that happen,
683
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:41,820
the next time, you just do it.
684
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,220
Because you're frightened?
Yeah.
685
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:46,900
I've told people that,
"I am going to report you."
686
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:48,940
And it'd be like
"Well, go on, then,
687
00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:52,380
"because I will tell them
that you drank too much.
688
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:55,260
"I will tell them that you are
the one that tried it on with me."
689
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:04,100
Jade was being controlled by one man
she was particularly close to.
690
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,860
He was the one I'd trust.
691
00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:10,100
He introduced me to everyone -
his cousins, his uncles.
692
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,500
There'd be times where I'd get
a phone call. It'd be like,
693
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:14,740
"Ah, he's been arrested for rape."
694
00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:17,060
"No, he hasn't.
No, he's not like that.
695
00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:18,460
"That's not him."
696
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:22,300
He's taken me to his taxi base,
where seven men took it in turns
697
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:23,900
with me in the toilet
when I was that drunk
698
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,660
that I couldn't even hold myself up,
throwing up in the toilet.
699
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:29,820
He's really brutal. He's just...
700
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,180
Yeah, I don't know if I'm ready
to talk about it
701
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:34,500
with him at the minute,
if I'm honest.
702
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:45,580
TEARFULLY: When you think
you care for someone
703
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:47,940
and they put you through
all of that, it's mental.
704
00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:57,660
In 2009, as Jade and Erin
were still being groomed,
705
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:02,620
I wanted to make another film which
tackled the issue of race head-on.
706
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,780
Although a third of men associated
with gang grooming were white,
707
00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:14,220
Asian men were massively
overrepresented in the figures.
708
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:16,820
In the film,
I wanted to speak directly
709
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:20,140
to members of
the British Pakistani community.
710
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:23,540
We do have a problem,
and obviously it is more, like,
711
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:26,620
Asian boys who are grooming
these girls.
712
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,660
Parents sometimes don't have
the confidence to talk
713
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,940
to their children about sex
and about exploitation
714
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:35,140
and the age of consent
and all the rules.
715
00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:37,980
I've got two children.
I would talk about it.
716
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,860
The new generation of parenting,
we'll talk about it.
717
00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:43,220
It's our parents
that it was a taboo for.
718
00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:45,940
I wouldn't like it to happen
to my 12-year-old daughter,
719
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,100
that's for sure.
720
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:51,860
It would make me very angry and
I would want that person locked up.
721
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:57,020
We're disgusted by it.
This is not what we are.
722
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,940
Our religion and our values
as British and Muslim people
723
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,380
does condemn this altogether.
724
00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:10,460
I was also following the work
of police officers in Telford
725
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:12,820
who were mounting
a complex investigation
726
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:16,780
into men who were exploiting
young girls in the town.
727
00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,460
The facilitators were actually
young Pakistani men.
728
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:21,820
And the difficulty is,
how do you deal with that
729
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:24,780
without being accused
of being racist?
730
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,260
My view is this -
I've got a bunch of criminals.
731
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:30,820
I don't care what background
they come from,
732
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:32,780
I don't care anything else
about them,
733
00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:35,020
other than they're gang raping
young girls.
734
00:43:42,980 --> 00:43:46,820
In 2009, police and social workers
in High Wycombe
735
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:50,660
were becoming increasingly concerned
about Jade.
736
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:54,180
She was going missing from her
children's home on a regular basis.
737
00:43:58,580 --> 00:44:02,900
Thames Valley Police decided to put
a police protection order on Jade.
738
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,700
This means that,
if she went missing again,
739
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,900
the police had to respond
immediately.
740
00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:16,540
But she continued to be
passed around the groups.
741
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:26,300
Me and a girl went out one night.
742
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,460
We went out with one group,
743
00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:29,820
and then that group dropped us off
to another group.
744
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:32,300
We went and had a few drinks
in their house.
745
00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:38,380
I woke up to the police around me.
746
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:42,140
I got taken away,
got taken to a police station.
747
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,500
So I thought I was sitting there
waiting to get taken back
748
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,340
to my care home,
cos I was reported missing.
749
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:50,300
The police officers come up
and arrested me
750
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:55,700
for inciting sexual activity,
or something, on a minor.
751
00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:00,260
Erm... Yeah, I didn't even know
what them words meant.
752
00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:04,220
So I was really... I was
just confused about everything,
753
00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:07,300
about how they've even
put that on me.
754
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,140
And the charge was that you'd taken
somebody from your care home
755
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:11,980
who was younger than you...
Yeah.
756
00:45:11,980 --> 00:45:14,180
..to go and have sex with these men?
Yeah.
757
00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:22,300
Less than a month after being
placed under police protection
758
00:45:22,300 --> 00:45:25,380
because she was such
a vulnerable young person,
759
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:29,380
Jade had herself been arrested
under grooming charges.
760
00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:33,740
She'd gone from being a victim
to a criminal in a matter of weeks.
761
00:45:38,140 --> 00:45:40,860
I got sentenced to
a two-year detention training order,
762
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,340
but I actually done 14 months,
763
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:45,740
and then five years
on the sex offenders register.
764
00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:48,860
They said that I'm at risk
with people under the age of 18,
765
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:51,500
that I can't have no contact
with anyone under the age of 18,
766
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:55,140
even though I was
under the age of 18 myself.
767
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:58,860
Moved to the adult side
on my 18th birthday.
768
00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:00,380
When people found out my offence,
769
00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:02,740
obviously I got classed as a nonce
in there.
770
00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,340
Yeah, it was pretty brutal.
771
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:07,860
Jade was serving her sentence
772
00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:11,020
because she took a friend along
to one of the so-called parties
773
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:12,780
organised by the groomers.
774
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:18,060
Her own perpetrators
remained at large.
775
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:24,740
She was convicted six months after
the first major gang grooming trial
776
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,340
hit the headlines in Derby.
777
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,980
Nine men were found guilty
of serious offences.
778
00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:34,940
These included rape,
false imprisonment,
779
00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:38,020
sexual assault,
and sexual activity with a child.
780
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:45,300
I was filming in Derby on the day
of the convictions in 2010
781
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,660
when the English Defence League
jumped on the case.
782
00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:51,380
We are standing
outside this court today
783
00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:54,780
in protest of these members
of the Islamic community.
784
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,340
SHOUTING
785
00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:59,940
They're sexual predators,
exactly what the judge has said.
786
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:03,340
They are sexual predators, and this
was all about sexual gratification
787
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:06,860
against vulnerable young girls.
788
00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:09,620
The rhetoric from those at the top
seemed to change
789
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:11,700
to become one of zero tolerance.
790
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,580
The law should be blind to colour
and ethnicity and religion.
791
00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:16,220
Things have to change.
792
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:18,700
Our most important task
is to make sure the police
793
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,900
and prosecutors approach this
with the right mindset.
794
00:47:23,780 --> 00:47:28,180
But in Rotherham, after yet another
report about the perpetrators
795
00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:32,580
was dismissed by council leaders,
Jayne had devastating news.
796
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:34,940
One of the senior managers
in Rotherham Borough Council
797
00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:39,540
came to see me and told me,
as from that day,
798
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:43,940
Risky Business were no more,
and they closed it down.
799
00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:45,700
And then I remember
I received a call
800
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,900
asking if I'd be willing
to speak to a reporter.
801
00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:53,140
And I just made the decision -
absolutely, yes.
802
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:58,380
She decided to blow the whistle
in 2012
803
00:47:58,380 --> 00:48:01,220
to newspaper reporter
Andrew Norfolk,
804
00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:03,700
who wrote a series of articles
in The Times...
805
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:07,380
We laid bare a picture
of more than a decade in that town
806
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:10,300
where men had been
targeting, grooming,
807
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,700
pimping, trafficking young girls.
808
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:18,380
..and I was starting to think that
the tide was actually turning
809
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:20,860
as more and more cases
came to court.
810
00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:23,780
Two pairs of brothers
were among five men jailed for life
811
00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:26,220
for their part in a paedophile
sex grooming ring...
812
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:27,740
..guilty of a range of offences,
813
00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:30,180
from rape to conspiracy
and trafficking...
814
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,140
..jailed for crimes
against more than a dozen
815
00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:33,620
vulnerable teenage girls...
816
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:37,180
..today sentenced to a minimum
of 95 years in prison.
817
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:42,340
And the case I'd been following
for three years in Telford
818
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:44,820
came to a head in 2013.
819
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:47,740
You've text that person,
820
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:50,180
"Were you going to suck
my sweet chocolate cock?"
821
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:52,460
What's that about?
No comment.
822
00:48:52,460 --> 00:48:53,740
What did you do with her, then?
823
00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:54,900
What did you do with her?
824
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:58,420
So you had sex with her?
825
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:00,780
The Chalice investigation resulted
826
00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:04,620
in eight men being sentenced
in total to 59.5 years.
827
00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:12,700
One year later, in 2014,
Rotherham exploded.
828
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,420
My little town became
international news.
829
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:18,780
Breaking news - the release
of that shocking report
830
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,140
into allegations of child sex abuse
in Rotherham.
831
00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:25,540
At least 1,400 individual children
in Rotherham were victims
832
00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:29,340
of sexual exploitation
over the 16 years.
833
00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:33,700
Sexually exploited, trafficked
to other towns and cities,
834
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:37,060
abducted, beaten, intimidated.
835
00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:44,020
The 2014 Jay Report into
sexual exploitation in Rotherham
836
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:46,380
was a huge watershed moment.
837
00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:50,140
I had no idea of scale and scope
of this type of organised crime.
838
00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:52,820
We've recognised we've failed.
We've let our young people down.
839
00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:55,100
As Chief Executive
as the council today,
840
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,580
I'm deeply sorry for those events.
841
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:02,340
The scandal in Rotherham
prompted police forces
842
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:05,500
around the country to re-examine
historic cases...
843
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,020
..but it took another five years
for Greater Manchester Police
844
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:13,660
to reopen their old files
on Operation Augusta,
845
00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:16,140
the inquiry that had left
97 perpetrators
846
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:19,060
on the streets of Manchester
in 2005.
847
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:24,020
I was approached by
Greater Manchester Police,
848
00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:26,860
and they said to me that
they wanted to make things right
849
00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:30,460
from where things went wrong,
from Operation Augusta.
850
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:33,460
She said, "Yeah, you was identified
as a child."
851
00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,020
She said, "Will you come
and speak to us about it?"
852
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:37,740
I felt really happy.
853
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:39,940
I felt like I was going to
get justice.
854
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,700
A review into Operation Augusta
had been ordered
855
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,460
15 years after it closed down.
856
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:49,340
The results were damning.
857
00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:52,500
I want to apologise to all of
those vulnerable children
858
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,820
who were let down in 2004,
859
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:59,140
when Greater Manchester Police
did not thoroughly investigate.
860
00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:01,580
I'm committed to doing
all that we can to ensure
861
00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:07,140
that they receive the justice today
that they were denied 15 years ago.
862
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,460
Steph was also contacted
by Greater Manchester Police.
863
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:14,940
They knocked on my door.
I was quite shocked.
864
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:19,260
She believed that one of the men
who raped her was a police officer,
865
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:21,620
but she wanted confirmation.
866
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:26,100
I actually asked,
"Did he work for GMP?"
867
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:29,380
They both looked at each other
868
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:31,300
and said, "Yeah...
869
00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:35,620
"..but he no longer works for GMP."
870
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:39,940
I said, "But if I've picked him out,
why has he never been investigated?"
871
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,620
I picked two men out
on an ID parade.
872
00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:49,140
One of them was the main abuser.
873
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,740
Soon as I seen him, I knew,
874
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:57,380
and I just remember my whole body
just sank. I just felt sick.
875
00:51:58,660 --> 00:52:00,700
I felt like I was going to
get justice
876
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,900
and, like, I'd done
what I had to do.
877
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:13,340
While I've been making this film,
878
00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:17,020
we've spoken to many organisations
working with vulnerable young people
879
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:21,740
in towns and cities
up and down the country right now.
880
00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:24,420
A care home manager in Blackpool
told us that street grooming
881
00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:27,060
is the worst she's ever seen.
882
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:29,100
Jayne and Maggie
are both still working
883
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:32,660
with children at risk
of gang grooming every day.
884
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:34,940
And then there's Scarlett.
885
00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:43,060
In 2021, after a year in care,
886
00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:45,340
Scarlett was sent back
to Greater Manchester
887
00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:48,060
to live with her dad. She was 16.
888
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:51,820
I really thought things had changed.
889
00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:55,620
I was very wrong.
890
00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:02,740
Because I'd been missing
for so long,
891
00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:04,340
like, everyone wondered
where I'd gone.
892
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:05,820
When I was back on the scene, like,
893
00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:07,780
I feel like people were
talking like, "Scarlett's back,
894
00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:10,740
"Scarlett's back." And that's
when people started messaging.
895
00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:15,900
Scarlett began being groomed again
by the same groups.
896
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:18,780
This was as recently as 2022.
897
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,820
I was just straight back into
the same stuff,
898
00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:23,540
if not worse than I was
when I was 14.
899
00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:25,740
And that's kind of where
it all started again.
900
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:31,100
Within months,
Marlon was struggling,
901
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:35,020
and asked Tameside Social Services
to provide some respite care
902
00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:36,940
for Scarlett.
903
00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:39,620
Just behind us now
was Scarlett's house.
904
00:53:39,620 --> 00:53:42,460
This was terrible.
905
00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:45,660
When she did stay there, she would
spend all night smoking cannabis
906
00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:49,340
in the room or being picked up
by taxi drivers.
907
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:55,540
A lot of the staff
couldn't speak English,
908
00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:59,300
their English was really poor,
so they'd just leave her on her own.
909
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,980
I think they was
absolutely clueless.
910
00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:04,340
The staff just stayed in their room
all day.
911
00:54:04,340 --> 00:54:06,620
Like, it was a young girl
not much older than me.
912
00:54:06,620 --> 00:54:08,060
They didn't care what's going on.
913
00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:11,220
This place, we might as well
have all been there alone.
914
00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:14,860
But before long, Scarlett started
to be exploited by the groomers
915
00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:16,380
in a different way.
916
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:21,180
She has a video of herself
cutting up crack cocaine
917
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,260
in the bedroom of this care home,
918
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,620
ready to be sold
by one of her groomers.
919
00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:31,220
I'd been given this bag
the night before and told,
920
00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:34,420
"It needs to be cut up
and ready to sell out to people
921
00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:36,780
"the next morning."
922
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:38,700
I didn't know what I was doing,
so, like, when I was cutting it up,
923
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:40,220
it was just flying everywhere.
924
00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:49,500
She was doing about 200
of these bags a night.
925
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,220
She was also going delivering it.
926
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:57,580
She was cutting up crack cocaine
in a care home
927
00:54:57,580 --> 00:54:59,420
that was used for respite,
928
00:54:59,420 --> 00:55:04,420
that Tameside Children's Services
had instructed and paid for.
929
00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:12,260
Amy Clowrey is also
Scarlett's lawyer.
930
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:17,380
It's disappointing that this was
within the last five years,
931
00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:19,740
and we should know enough now
932
00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:24,140
to know that Scarlett
was being exploited,
933
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,620
and yet no action was being taken
against the men.
934
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:30,780
Scarlett shouldn't
have been groomed.
935
00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:33,500
She wasn't protected
by Social Services.
936
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:37,140
She wasn't protected
by Greater Manchester Police.
937
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:42,060
And in some ways, I get more
distressed about that, because of...
938
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:46,540
These are the people
who you should be relying on
939
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:48,380
when you can't keep your child safe.
940
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:58,820
While Scarlett was in the depths
of being exploited
941
00:55:58,820 --> 00:56:01,180
for sex and drug running,
942
00:56:01,180 --> 00:56:05,500
West Yorkshire Police were
reinvestigating Erin's case.
943
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,060
Were you only abused by Asian men?
944
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:13,980
No. No.
There's abusers in every ethnicity.
945
00:56:15,340 --> 00:56:17,300
Erin worked with
West Yorkshire Police
946
00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:19,820
for a number of years
to get her cases to court.
947
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:24,780
I had to go through all that trauma
of reliving.
948
00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:31,460
How many defence barristers
did you have asking you questions?
949
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:33,820
There were ten barristers.
950
00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:36,660
Some of them,
it's like they call you a liar.
951
00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:42,820
You feel like you're on trial.
952
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:45,020
You feel like
you're the perpetrator.
953
00:56:46,220 --> 00:56:49,140
There's no sympathy or anything.
954
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:51,980
You feel like you're getting
attacked constantly.
955
00:56:51,980 --> 00:56:53,700
It is very traumatic.
956
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:57,700
But I went to court
957
00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:00,940
and I stood my ground
and told the truth.
958
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:08,220
Erin was involved in three trials,
959
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:12,260
and although it's taken many years,
her courage means that, so far,
960
00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:16,660
seven men who violently abused her
have been convicted.
961
00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:19,460
How did you feel
when the verdict came back?
962
00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:21,740
It were just, like,
emotions all over.
963
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:23,460
A total shock.
964
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:26,940
Like, my body was there,
but my mind were elsewhere.
965
00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:31,860
Justice has been served,
but why has it took so long?
966
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:39,420
People say, "All right, then,"
967
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:41,700
you know, "Get on
with your life now."
968
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:43,580
Like, are you joking?
969
00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:46,060
This has been 22 years of my life,
970
00:57:46,060 --> 00:57:48,980
22 years because of these men.
971
00:57:55,780 --> 00:58:00,260
But gaining convictions is far from
the end of the story for victims.
972
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,100
CHANTING: No more lies,
no more shame!
973
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:07,580
No more lies, no more shame!
974
00:58:07,580 --> 00:58:10,300
This is a protest by a group
who believe
975
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,260
that their relatives and friends
have been wrongly convicted
976
00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:14,900
in gang grooming trials
977
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:17,340
due to racism in
the criminal justice system.
978
00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:22,260
Racism in trial
is not a thing of the past,
979
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:25,940
it is a present,
ongoing crisis that denies...
980
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:29,020
I've been following the group online
for months.
981
00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:32,740
Fair trials are our aim!
No more lies, no more shame!
982
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:35,740
My team infiltrated the private
WhatsApp group run by them.
983
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:41,420
What they're saying about
the victims was truly shocking.
984
00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:57,020
They've also been holding
regular live streams on TikTok
985
00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:58,820
for the last year.
986
00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:27,700
While I was listening,
I realised that Irfan Khan,
987
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,660
a groomer from Batley
in West Yorkshire
988
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:35,060
who's serving 12 years for
three rapes and one threat to kill,
989
00:59:35,060 --> 00:59:38,100
was actually calling in
to the TikTok live from prison,
990
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:41,100
which is against prison rules
and can result in a sanction.
991
00:59:44,060 --> 00:59:45,700
He was one of 28 men convicted
992
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:48,460
as part of a West Yorkshire Police
operation
993
00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:52,180
that led to prison sentences
of almost 400 years.
994
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:12,380
And in another call,
Irfan Khan's sister directly names
995
01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:16,780
three victims who went through
grooming trials as witnesses
996
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:19,060
and have been granted
lifelong anonymity.
997
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:44,180
Have they broken the law?
Yeah, they've broken the law.
998
01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:47,380
It is contempt of court.
There's an anonymity order in place.
999
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:53,300
If I was a victim,
I would be frightened
1000
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:56,100
if information about me
was shared on the internet.
1001
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,740
And if I was somebody
that was thinking about
1002
01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:03,340
helping the police, I would be
thinking twice about helping them.
1003
01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:05,540
No justice, no peace!
1004
01:01:09,940 --> 01:01:14,740
21 years after the BNP first jumped
on the gang grooming story,
1005
01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:19,140
another more surprising
intervention, from Elon Musk,
1006
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:21,340
reignites a national debate.
1007
01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:25,420
CHEERING
1008
01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:30,220
Yes!
1009
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:33,740
In a flurry of posts,
1010
01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:36,420
Elon Musk accuses Keir Starmer
directly
1011
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:39,380
of failing to prosecute
gang grooming cases
1012
01:01:39,380 --> 01:01:42,060
during his time as
Director of Public Prosecutions.
1013
01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:48,340
Those that are spreading
lies and misinformation
1014
01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:50,740
as far and as wide as possible,
1015
01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:53,380
they're not interested in victims.
1016
01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:55,340
They're interested in themselves.
1017
01:01:55,340 --> 01:01:56,860
We need the truth.
1018
01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:58,500
This is not about Elon Musk.
1019
01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:59,620
It's endangering.
1020
01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:01,140
There's a culture of silence.
1021
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:02,460
We are going to act.
1022
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:06,620
Musk's intervention does, however,
1023
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:09,460
prompt the Government to respond
four days later.
1024
01:02:09,460 --> 01:02:13,020
We will make it mandatory
to report abuse,
1025
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:16,260
making it an offence
to fail to report
1026
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:19,300
or cover up child sexual abuse.
1027
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:23,340
I've wrestled with this issue
for nearly 30 years
1028
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:26,620
and witnessed countless promises
from politicians,
1029
01:02:26,620 --> 01:02:29,300
countless reports and inquiries,
1030
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:34,500
countless apologies from police,
councils, and social services.
1031
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,340
And throughout, victims' lives
1032
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:40,780
have been played with
in a game of political football.
1033
01:02:40,780 --> 01:02:45,180
For me, this isn't about race
or culture or class.
1034
01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:49,220
My focus remains the same as it was
three decades ago.
1035
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:51,980
Where is the justice
for the victims?
1036
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:56,820
In Manchester, Chantelle
is still waiting for answers.
1037
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:03,220
You've been engaging with Greater
Manchester Police since 2019.
1038
01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:07,300
Yeah. And we're now in... 2024.
1039
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:10,380
And nothing's been done.
1040
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:13,140
What's taking so long
to charge them?
1041
01:03:13,140 --> 01:03:15,180
I feel like this should have
already been dealt with,
1042
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:17,060
this court case,
it should have been done.
1043
01:03:17,060 --> 01:03:20,420
I feel like I've put myself
through all that for nothing.
1044
01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:23,700
I don't feel like
anything's changed.
1045
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,980
I just want what they promised me
at the beginning,
1046
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:27,500
and that was justice.
1047
01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:33,980
After asking about her abuser,
1048
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:36,980
who was apparently identified
as a police officer,
1049
01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:41,940
Steph has not heard from Greater
Manchester Police since 2021.
1050
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:45,580
Do you expect
to hear anything from them?
1051
01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,100
No. No.
1052
01:03:49,820 --> 01:03:53,900
I've give up hope. Erm...
1053
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:56,260
I've been willing
to give a statement,
1054
01:03:56,260 --> 01:04:00,140
I've been willing to put these men
in jail where they belong
1055
01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:01,980
and to help other people.
1056
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:06,580
And it's like they're choosing
not to...listen to me.
1057
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:11,980
Because it was one of their own,
I do genuinely believe
1058
01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:14,860
that's one of the reasons
why they didn't bring him in.
1059
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:19,460
Since Greater Manchester Police
began reinvestigating
1060
01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:22,460
the Augusta perpetrators in 2019,
1061
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:26,700
so far, only one person has been
convicted for child sexual offences.
1062
01:04:27,940 --> 01:04:30,780
This is an operation
spanning six years.
1063
01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:36,020
What it absolutely clear
is that the mistakes,
1064
01:04:36,020 --> 01:04:39,060
the systemic failure
to protect children
1065
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:41,060
of 10 and 20 years ago,
1066
01:04:41,060 --> 01:04:42,980
as night follows day,
1067
01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:45,940
could not be repeated
in Manchester today.
1068
01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:47,500
Of that I am confident.
1069
01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:51,980
There's no point
spending all that money
1070
01:04:51,980 --> 01:04:54,820
and all that time
getting victims' hopes up,
1071
01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:57,460
and at the end of it
we get an apology
1072
01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:01,300
and a protestation that
everything's hunky-dory now,
1073
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:04,260
this is a problem of the past,
it doesn't happen now.
1074
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:07,660
I'm sorry, that's bullshit,
because it is happening now.
1075
01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:14,780
No-one's ever been prosecuted
for raping you or... No.
1076
01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:17,540
..grooming or trafficking? No. No.
1077
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:19,900
Do you want people to be arrested?
1078
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:24,220
I didn't when I was younger,
but now I do, yeah, all of them.
1079
01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:25,460
They never got charged for me,
1080
01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:27,300
so now they've moved on
to the next person.
1081
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:29,780
It's probably
some other little girl now.
1082
01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:34,980
It's only girls that
don't have dads like me
1083
01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:36,900
and don't have family
1084
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,180
that are crying out for help
and no-one's seeing.
1085
01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:46,940
It's not often Scarlett cries,
1086
01:05:46,940 --> 01:05:50,020
and she rang me up last night
in tears,
1087
01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:55,860
and she couldn't understand why
I've stuck by her through all this.
1088
01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:58,820
And I explained to her
she's my daughter
1089
01:05:58,820 --> 01:06:01,340
and...it's unconditional love.
1090
01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:12,420
14 years on from Jade's conviction,
1091
01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:16,060
she now lives with her children,
and she's very close to her mum.
1092
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:22,820
But she remains
a convicted sex offender.
1093
01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:27,740
I would really love
to overturn my charge
1094
01:06:27,740 --> 01:06:31,580
and get my name cleared
and prove that I was a victim,
1095
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:33,460
because that is what I was.
1096
01:06:33,460 --> 01:06:36,580
And the person that essentially
was your groomer,
1097
01:06:36,580 --> 01:06:39,420
has he ever had any charges
brought against him? No.
1098
01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:43,660
No, still walking free, living his
happy life with his wife and kids.
1099
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,020
At my kids' school,
they do a minor CRB check
1100
01:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,980
if you want to go with the kids
on a school trip.
1101
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:54,820
Never been able to do that.
1102
01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:58,100
I've never been able to experience
a school trip with my kids...
1103
01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:04,580
..because they class me
as a sex offender.
1104
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,860
I'm angry,
1105
01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:20,380
angry that the five women
in our film
1106
01:07:20,380 --> 01:07:23,380
estimate that they've been
collectively abused
1107
01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:26,420
by hundreds and hundreds of men,
1108
01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:28,540
and that out of all of them,
1109
01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:32,100
only Erin has had justice,
against just seven men.
1110
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:38,780
I'd hoped I would never have to
return to this subject,
1111
01:07:38,780 --> 01:07:42,380
but we know from all our
conversations over the last year
1112
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:45,300
that our five women
represent thousands
1113
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:48,700
and thousands and thousands
across the country
1114
01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:51,220
whose voices have never been heard.
1115
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:01,300
I think everything I've been through
has only made me tougher. Yeah.
1116
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:03,660
I'm a really good parent
to my children,
1117
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:06,820
and I feel like if I wouldn't
have gone through all that,
1118
01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:10,100
maybe I wouldn't be
the person I am today.
1119
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:14,100
I am proud of who I am
and what I've been through.
1120
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,460
I'm not ashamed any more -
1121
01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:20,020
I was. For many years,
I had this big dark hole,
1122
01:08:20,020 --> 01:08:23,100
but now I feel a lot better
about everything.
1123
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:26,820
OK, well done. That's brilliant.
1124
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,780
Thank you. You're welcome.
Are you OK? Yeah.
1125
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:37,380
Thank you.
1126
01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:40,700
Thank you. Let's cut. Thank you.
Cheers.
1127
01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:43,180
Well done. You did great.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
1128
01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:44,580
Thank you so much.
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