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(horns honking)
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(phone buzzes, rings)
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BENNY: If something edible
isn't put in front of me
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in the next three minutes,
I am not responsible
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for what I might do.
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Don't anybody shoot Benny
with a tranq gun.
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I just buzzed 'em in.
Food's on its way up.
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Ugh, food!
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* Glorious food
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* Hot sausage
and mustard *
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* Food, glorious food
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* Something, something,
and cus... tard. *
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Hey.
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Hey.
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DANNY:
Oh, hey, Simon.
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You finally come back
to say good-bye?
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Hey, Simple Simon,
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stop ogling over the help
and bring me over my grub.
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(chuckles)
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How have you been, Simon?
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Uh, good. You know?
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Just workin'.
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Uh, I'm in a bit
of a hurry, actually,
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so...
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I'll walk you out.
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Quite a career path he's on.
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From trial science technician
to bike messenger.
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(sighs)
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(sighs)
Well, that was weird.
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You know what's weird?
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A guy working somewhere
for four months
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and then suddenly
just not showing up.
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You know what else is weird?
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Uh, somebody dating somebody
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and then, all of a
sudden, they're gone.
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They've moved.
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Changed their number.
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Don't show up for work.
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E-mails bounce back.
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I'm sorry.
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I hope you weren't worried.
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Following people online
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when they don't want
to be followed,
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that's what I do.
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Three and a half weeks
is kind of a long time
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to not text somebody
that you care about.
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(elevator bell chimes)
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(doors open)
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I know I-I owe you
an explanation,
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but... I'm trying to get
this $30 bonus and, uh...
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$30.
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Cool. Well, don't let me waste
another second of your time.
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You can just have a nice life,
Simon.
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By the way, you
look like hell.
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Your eyes are bloodshot,
and your hands are shaking.
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Whatever you're doing, really...
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keep it up.
(elevator bell chimes)
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I'm sorry, Cable.
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*
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(distant siren wailing)
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* Baby, then there wouldn't be
a single thing we couldn't do *
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(excited chattering)
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* We could be married
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* We could be married *
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* Then we'd be happy
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* Then we'd be happy *
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(gasping)
Happy birthday.
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(excited chattering)
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(phone buzzes, ringing)
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* You know, it seems the more
we talk about it *
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* It only makes it worse
to live without it *
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* But let's talk about it
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* Wouldn't it be nice?
* Ooh, ooh, ooh
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* Run, run, ooh
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* Bah, bah-bah-bah,
bah-bah-bah *
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* Bah, bah, bah
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* Good night, my baby
(woman screaming)
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* Sleep tight, my baby
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* Good night, my baby
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* Sleep tight...
(siren wailing)
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(elevator bell chimes)
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MARISSA:
$10,000
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for Hamilton tickets, day of,
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fourth row center,
from a scalper.
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It's an absolutely justifiable
business expense.
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I had to pay off
the court clerk.
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Bull, I seriously doubt
the IRS will agree
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that illegal bribes
are deductible.
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Marissa, if I don't have a list
of the 75 potential jurors
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that make up the jury pool
at least a couple days
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before I walk
into that courtroom,
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then all of those people
on the other side of that door
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can't research them
and help me figure out
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if I want them or not.
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And since jury lists
are not supposed to be shared
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with either side,
Exactly.
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the only way
that I can do
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my job is to have that list.
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Otherwise, I'm just guessing.
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And any fool can guess.
(knocking)
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Come in!
Bad time?
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No. No, no. Perfect time.
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How was
the memorial service?
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CABLE:
Uh, I-I don't know.
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I don't have anything
to compare it to.
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I've never had a friend die
before.
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Is there any way
I could talk to you alone?
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CABLE:
I know you didn't know
Simon very well.
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(sighs)
Cable,
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a lot of assistants
come through here.
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It's no excuse.
You know, the
only reason
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he left here is because
he couldn't do nine-to-five.
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Everything had to be
his choice, all the time.
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When to wake up, what to do.
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Anyway, I'm sure
somebody told you,
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but he started working
as a bike messenger.
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It was kind of invented
for him,
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because he could just text
when he felt like working.
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And the other thing
he started to do, actually,
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about a year ago,
while he was working here,
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was working as a guinea pig
for pharmaceutical companies,
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testing new drugs.
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They pay a lot of money.
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And all he had to do
was remember
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to take one or two pills a day.
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I know you really cared
for him...
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I was talking to
some of his friends.
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It turns out he was doing
a trial for this company
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called Dep Pharmaceutical,
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testing this new kind of
antidepressant called Eutaline.
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The people that know Simon,
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they say it was the drug that
caused Simon to kill himself.
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Cable, when people
are grieving...
They say
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he completely changed on it.
Even so,
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it doesn't mean
it made him suicidal.
That man
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loved life. He didn't drink, he
didn't smoke, he loved the gym.
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But he took pills for money.
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Look, his parents want to sue.
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And I told them I'd help.
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And I told them
I'd ask you if you'd help.
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They want money?
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They want answers.
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And they want to make sure
this drug never gets to market.
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And, yes, I'm sure
they want money, too.
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Hmm.
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Let me call Dep Pharmaceutical,
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see if I can't put a meeting
on the books for Benny and me.
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BENNY:
Nice of you to do this.
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Represent someone
I don't remember
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on a matter I know
almost nothing about
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to make his parents, whom
I've never met, feel better?
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Yeah, I'm a peach.
(chuckles)
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(heels clicking)
I sense our meeting
is about to begin.
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(door opens)
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Dr. Bull, you
have no idea
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what a treat it is
for me to meet you.
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And Benjamin Colón,
former ADA.
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for New York County and
in-house counsel for TAC.
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My name is Arti Cander.
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Please, have a seat.
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So you know why we're here?
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Absolutely.
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Our cofounder and CEO,
Tessa Snyder,
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is beside herself about this.
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You know, any time
anyone who is part
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of the Dep family passes,
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no matter how minor their role
in the company might be,
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it-it saddens all of us.
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You do understand we believe
there's a relationship
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between Mr. Jones' death
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and the antidepressant
he was testing for Dep.
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Really? I was, uh,
under the impression
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that he fell off a roof.
BENNY: Mm.
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Jumped.
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Well, this is the first
I've heard
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of any suicidal ideation
in relationship to this drug.
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Um, have you gentlemen...
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have you gentlemen done
your homework?
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You know, if this side effect
was even on our radar,
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we wouldn't be doing
human trials.
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Um, FDA would simply not hear
of it.
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Now, what can I do for you?
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You can shoot off a flare
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and let everybody
at the...
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Dep family
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know that we're not gonna
take you at your word
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that the new happy pill
you're getting ready to inflict
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on the general public
doesn't, in fact,
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make people want to shut off
the lights and call it a day.
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If you're looking
for a settlement...
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Oh, no. Thank you, Ms. Cander.
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Quite the name, by the way.
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Nothing like a little irony
on your driver's license
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to keep your mood in check.
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Says the man named Bull.
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Mm.
Let me save you some time,
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Arti, Simon's family
is not gonna settle,
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and there's no amount of money
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that's gonna convince them
otherwise.
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Oh, my.
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The famous Dr. Jason Bull,
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expert reader of human behavior,
just misread me.
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We have no interest
in settling.
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None.
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We're very happy to prove
in a court of law
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that this drug
is perfectly safe.
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It may not be safe.
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A man died while taking it.
Ah.
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So you say.
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Then court it shall be.
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Excellent.
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I assume you're general counsel
for Dep Pharmaceutical.
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Can I trouble you
for a card?
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I'm sorry to disappoint
you, Dr. Bull,
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but I'm not general counsel
for Dep.
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Then to whom
have I been speaking?
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I work for
Tessa Snyder.
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I'm her you.
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(chuckles)
Excuse me?
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I'm a trial scientist,
Dr. Bull.
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And I very much look forward
to seeing you in court.
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Please, feel free to
let yourselves out.
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*
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*
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(Bull sighs)
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(door opens)
BENNY:
Hey.
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You gonna be joining us?
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No. Go ahead without me.
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BENNY:
The big news is
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Dep Pharmaceutical is downright
anxious to go to court.
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Which leads me to believe
that they have rock solid
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information on Simon
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that they believe clears
them of any culpability.
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Cable?
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I'm digging,
but, honestly,
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I don't think there's
any "there" there.
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I knew Simon.
We all did.
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Wh-What about
the company itself?
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This is Tessa Snyder,
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the company CEO.
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A competitor once described her
as "a burning hot pepper
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disguised as an
ice cream sundae."
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Wow. Can't wait
to meet her.
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Danny?
Well, I'm trying to get a list
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of the other participants
in the study.
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And, believe it or not,
I may have a lead.
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Okay.
(clicks tongue)
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Well, I guess we'll wait
to hear from the big guy
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about voir dire.
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What's he doing in there?
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It's not what.
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It's who.
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BULL: Wait a second!
Isn't that London's
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Arti Cander?
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Is there nothing
she can't do?
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Graduated with honors from
Oxford, then moved to D.C.
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to became a lobbyist
in the candy industry.
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Tough job. No
one likes candy.
259
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And then decided to
start all over again
260
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and enter the trial
science business.
261
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Mm. Someone figured out
how to Google.
262
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You left out the part
263
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where I spent three years
at Georgetown
264
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studying law and human behavior.
265
00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,257
Oh, and you.
266
00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:32,492
I forgot to mention this
the other day, but
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I firmly do believe
that you are one
268
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of the two best
at what you do.
269
00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:37,364
Wait. Is this
the part where
270
00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:39,399
I'm supposed to say,
"But who's the other?"
271
00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,802
Oh, you don't have to say it...
just as long as you think it.
272
00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,905
So is it true you don't
use mirror jurors?
273
00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:46,339
Yeah, I've never
really seen the point.
274
00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:47,407
It's an extrapolation
once removed.
275
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Then how do you know what
the jurors are thinking?
276
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I read them... all by myself.
277
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You should try it sometime.
278
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Oh, I wouldn't know
where to begin.
279
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Perhaps after I've had
the opportunity to study you.
280
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Sorry. We're not taking
any new students at the moment.
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I'll see you in court, Dr. Bull.
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(low conversations)
283
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BENNY:
There he is.
284
00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:14,434
Dr. Jason Bull, this is Mr.
and Mrs. Jones, Simon's parents.
285
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Thank you for doing this,
Dr. Bull.
286
00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,172
Well, we haven't done anything
yet, but you're very welcome.
287
00:12:19,206 --> 00:12:21,775
Do you mind if I steal
Mr. Colón for a moment?
288
00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:23,811
Excuse me.
289
00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:31,184
I am totally in the dark about
our approach to voir dire.
290
00:12:31,218 --> 00:12:32,853
MARISSA (over earbud):
That would make two of us, Bull.
291
00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:34,321
Is it as simple
as finding people
292
00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,824
who feel anger towards
the pharmaceutical companies?
293
00:12:36,857 --> 00:12:38,325
'Cause there are plenty
of those.
294
00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:39,827
I wish. No.
295
00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:41,795
Just because
people are mad at a company
296
00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:43,530
or even an entire industry
doesn't mean
297
00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:44,431
they're gonna side with us.
298
00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:48,135
Shared experience
does not equal empathy.
299
00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:50,838
In fact, a lot of times,
it's just the opposite.
300
00:12:50,871 --> 00:12:52,940
It's called the empathy gap.
301
00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:56,209
I worry that they are gonna
see Simon as someone
302
00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,446
who willingly signed up
for a risky job in an industry
303
00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,381
famous for its greed
and arrogance,
304
00:13:01,414 --> 00:13:03,350
and should have known better.
305
00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:05,352
Mm-hmm. So,
what are we looking for?
306
00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,320
Perversely,
I am thinking
307
00:13:07,354 --> 00:13:11,291
of going after jurors who
trust powerful corporations.
308
00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:12,625
Now I'm confused.
309
00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:14,261
I would've thought that's
exactly who we don't want.
310
00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,228
BULL:
Think about it.
311
00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:17,965
Who better to understand
what happened to Simon
312
00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:21,234
than someone who takes
big companies at their word.
313
00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:23,436
We'll tell them a story
about a young man
314
00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:26,039
who trusted the people
he worked for,
315
00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:28,575
never questioning
their intentions
316
00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:31,478
or their honesty
till it was too late.
317
00:13:31,511 --> 00:13:35,448
And hopefully, we'll shock 'em
into siding with us.
318
00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:38,051
Mm. Well,
319
00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:41,054
at the very least,
she'll never see it coming.
320
00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:43,056
MARISSA:
Eddie Dunn, 33 years old.
321
00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,958
He is a toy wholesaler, so,
322
00:13:44,992 --> 00:13:47,995
he depends on big manufacturers
for his livelihood.
323
00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:50,297
He is the poster boy
for the kind of juror they think
324
00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,232
they want and think we don't.
325
00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:53,600
Excellent.
This should be fun.
326
00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,235
ATTORNEY:
Say you buy a product--
327
00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:57,470
sandwich bags--
you get them home,
328
00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,606
but none of the
zippers work.
329
00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,608
What do you do?
Do you drive
330
00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:03,410
all the way
back to the store
331
00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:05,645
and make them exchange
it for another box?
332
00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,647
Do you, uh, write to
the manufacturer?
333
00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,349
Or do you just
334
00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:12,419
shrug it off, throw the box
away and get on with your life?
335
00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:13,586
Me? I'd go back to the store.
336
00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:16,389
Because?
Any reputable store
is gonna want
337
00:14:16,423 --> 00:14:18,258
to make good
on that purchase.
338
00:14:18,291 --> 00:14:20,560
And so is the manufacturer,
by the way.
339
00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:23,496
There's nothing to be gained
by angering a customer.
340
00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,365
This juror's acceptable
to the defense.
341
00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,001
He's good, but Bull's
gonna strike him.
342
00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:30,203
Does the plaintiff wish
to question this juror?
343
00:14:30,237 --> 00:14:32,505
This juror is acceptable to
the plaintiff, too, Your Honor.
344
00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,341
Thank you.
345
00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:40,313
If you have a choice, do you
prefer store brand products,
346
00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:42,215
or name brand products?
347
00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:43,650
Most of the time, store brand.
348
00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,318
Any particular reason why?
349
00:14:45,352 --> 00:14:47,320
Bears don't use toilet paper.
350
00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:49,356
And mermaids don't drink coffee.
351
00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,224
I'm not paying
for the trademark.
352
00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,260
I'm paying for the product.
353
00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:54,527
That's very clever.
Mm-hmm.
354
00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,263
Move to strike, Your Honor.
355
00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,967
ATTORNEY: How do you feel
about drug companies?
356
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,368
I wish their drugs cost less.
357
00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:03,203
But then...
I wish everything cost less.
358
00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,205
(laughs)
Hear, hear.
359
00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,539
But notwithstanding price,
360
00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,541
how do you feel
about drug companies?
361
00:15:08,575 --> 00:15:11,144
I mean, do you use
prescription drugs at all?
362
00:15:11,178 --> 00:15:12,946
I have a couple
of prescriptions, yes.
363
00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:15,182
And do they do
what they're supposed to do?
364
00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:18,151
Help you with the things
you need them to help with?
Yes.
365
00:15:18,185 --> 00:15:20,120
Would you miss them
if you didn't have them?
366
00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:21,321
Couldn't get them?
367
00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:22,589
Yes, definitely.
368
00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:24,657
So back to my first question,
369
00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:26,626
how do you feel
about drug companies?
370
00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:31,131
I guess I'm kind of grateful
for them.
371
00:15:31,164 --> 00:15:33,033
(mouthing):
She's great.
372
00:15:33,066 --> 00:15:35,602
ATTORNEY: This juror is
acceptable to the defense.
373
00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:37,337
And to the plaintiff,
Your Honor.
374
00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:40,707
Ladies and gentlemen,
we have a jury.
375
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:42,642
The rest of you are dismissed.
(gavel bangs)
376
00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,644
Thank you for your time.
377
00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:48,181
Well, that was easy.
378
00:15:48,215 --> 00:15:49,582
What are you trying
to pull?
379
00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:50,583
What are you
talking about?
380
00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,019
You mean the jurors?
381
00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:53,953
Great minds
think alike.
382
00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:56,589
You look puzzled.
383
00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,291
Can't you read me?
384
00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:00,127
I'd just like to understand.
That's all.
385
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,528
Oh, I'm sorry.
386
00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:04,197
We're not taking new
students at the moment.
387
00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:06,233
See you in court, Ms. Cander.
388
00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:13,506
(elevator bell chimes)
389
00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:16,543
(sighs)
390
00:16:18,078 --> 00:16:20,313
(computer beeps)
391
00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,726
Cable.
392
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,495
Cable!
(gasps)
393
00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:37,497
BENNY:
So what did you discover
working
394
00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:39,066
the graveyard shift?
395
00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:40,133
Bunch of stuff.
396
00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:42,669
A complete record of every
delivery Simon ever made
397
00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:43,936
for Rush City Courier.
398
00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:47,674
And Danny e-mailed me that she
might've found another subject
399
00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,177
in Simon's trial, and
last but not least,
400
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:54,514
my very big score--
an old friend of Simon's.
401
00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:56,716
And this friend
is relevant why?
402
00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:59,686
I don't know. It's
really a long shot.
403
00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:03,290
But the funny thing is, I didn't
even find him on the Internet.
404
00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:06,126
I dug up his application
from when he worked here,
405
00:17:06,159 --> 00:17:09,229
and under emergency contact,
he put this guy.
406
00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,663
His name is Tom Greaver.
407
00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:12,165
Never mentioned
him to me
408
00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:14,367
the whole time we
knew each other, but
409
00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:16,236
put someone as your
emergency contact,
410
00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:18,305
they've got to know
a lot about you.
411
00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,640
Hmm. You should come to court.
412
00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:22,509
We're there because of you.
413
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,244
MRS. JONES:
Simon and I
414
00:17:24,277 --> 00:17:26,213
were incredibly close.
415
00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:30,217
We spoke twice a week--
Mondays and Thursdays.
416
00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,584
He always called me.
417
00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:34,087
7:30 at night.
418
00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,423
You could set your clock by it.
419
00:17:36,456 --> 00:17:39,159
And then one Thursday, um,
420
00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,661
a little over two months ago,
my phone didn't ring,
421
00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,631
so I worried.
422
00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:47,334
And finally,
423
00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:50,737
despite my better judgment,
I called him.
424
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,472
Did he answer?
425
00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:54,641
Yes and no.
426
00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:56,276
How do you mean?
427
00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:59,612
It was Simon,
but it wasn't my Simon.
428
00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:03,583
He just sounded different.
429
00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:05,585
Muted.
430
00:18:05,618 --> 00:18:07,687
Like some part of him
had disappeared
431
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,357
or... been put away.
432
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:12,292
And did you know at this point
433
00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:15,295
that he had started the Dep
drug trial three days earlier?
434
00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,529
No.
435
00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:20,167
I just knew
something was different.
436
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,269
And not for the better.
437
00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,304
Your witness.
438
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,207
Earth to TAC.
439
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,641
Tell me what you see.
440
00:18:28,675 --> 00:18:30,243
MARISSA:
Well, because of the strategy
441
00:18:30,277 --> 00:18:31,911
you're using
of starting with jurors
442
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:34,581
who are predisposed
to trust big companies,
443
00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,849
you're at a disadvantage
coming out of the box.
444
00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,785
You began the morning
with ten red jurors
445
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,220
and only two green ones.
446
00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,521
And that hasn't changed.
447
00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:43,256
But she doesn't know that.
448
00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:44,824
You mean Arti?
How could she?
449
00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,194
ATTORNEY:
Our condolences, Mrs. Jones.
450
00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:50,263
You said your son seemed, uh,
451
00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:51,464
different that day.
452
00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,333
He did.
Did he mention
453
00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,303
to you that he had quit his job?
454
00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:57,637
No, he did not.
455
00:18:57,670 --> 00:18:59,739
Did he mention to you
that he decided instead
456
00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:01,908
to become a
bike messenger?
457
00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,244
No, he did not.
458
00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,879
And you've already testified
that he hadn't confided in you
459
00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:09,749
that he was participating
in a drug trial.
460
00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:13,286
So isn't it a bit...
disingenuous
461
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,555
to talk about
how close you were?
462
00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,491
And couldn't it be
that the reason
463
00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:22,662
he sounded-- what word
did you use?-- muted was because
464
00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:24,497
he was keeping so many
secrets from you?
465
00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,498
BENNY:
Objection!
466
00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,867
The counselor has asked
two questions in a row
467
00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,769
without letting
the witness answer.
468
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,371
Sustained.
469
00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:35,342
Mr. Hansen, if you could
please ask one question
470
00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:37,244
and wait
for the witness to answer.
471
00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:42,715
Mrs. Jones,
do you have any education
472
00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:45,918
or certification
or training of any kind
473
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,255
that allows you to hypothesize
474
00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,657
from hearing someone's voice
on the phone
475
00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,692
whether they have been affected
in any way
476
00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,761
by a medication
they might have taken?
477
00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,264
No, I do not.
478
00:19:58,465 --> 00:20:01,701
No further questions.
479
00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,803
There is so little movement
here, I'm starting to wonder
480
00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,872
if we're having
a systems failure.
481
00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:09,676
I'm trying to put a good face
on this, but you're not helping.
482
00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,615
(crowd chatter)
483
00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:19,919
Kevin? Kevin Wright?
484
00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:23,690
Hi. Um, can I ask you
some questions
485
00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,225
about a clinical trial
you participated in?
486
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,335
You were in
the Dep Pharmaceutical
487
00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,404
antidepressant trial, yeah?
488
00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,005
That was supposed
to be confidential.
489
00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,540
It's not something
I'm really anxious
490
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,742
for people to
know about.
491
00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:44,577
I'm sorry
if I startled you.
492
00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:46,879
It's just...
493
00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:50,483
one of the other participants,
Simon Jones, died.
494
00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:52,752
Committed suicide, actually.
495
00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,290
I'm just trying
to figure out what happened.
496
00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,860
Did you know each other well?
497
00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:03,496
Uh, we never really hung
out or anything, but...
498
00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:05,965
we ended up in a lot
of the same trials.
499
00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,735
Once you do one, and
you see how easy it is,
500
00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:12,038
how much money they pay...
501
00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:15,007
We were both what they
call healthy volunteers,
502
00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:17,710
and there was a big
demand for that, so...
503
00:21:18,811 --> 00:21:20,980
I'm sorry. Uh, my
head is spinning.
504
00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:22,815
It's a shock.
505
00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:25,352
Well, forgive me.
What's a healthy volunteer?
506
00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,019
Uh, people
who don't have the illness
507
00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:28,455
the drug is being tested for.
508
00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:29,622
Got it.
509
00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:30,957
Well, last question.
510
00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:32,992
Why did you drop out
of the study?
511
00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:35,061
KEVIN:
When I'm not working
at the gym,
512
00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:36,429
I'm training for marathons.
513
00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:38,631
I try to do six
to eight miles a day.
514
00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:39,766
Been doing it for years.
515
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,703
But a couple of days after
I started the Dep trial, I...
516
00:21:43,736 --> 00:21:46,806
I don't know. I...
517
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:51,344
I started having these feelings
of... dread.
518
00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:54,080
I was supposed to fly to Chicago
for a friend's wedding.
519
00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,749
Couldn't get on the plane.
520
00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:58,818
Became convinced
that it was gonna crash.
521
00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:03,356
And that same weekend-- I think
it was Saturday morning--
522
00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:05,492
I couldn't get out of bed.
523
00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,395
Just skipped training
altogether, and I never do that.
524
00:22:08,428 --> 00:22:11,063
But then the next day,
Sunday,
525
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,132
I'm running across
Brooklyn Bridge,
526
00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:16,436
and I'm staring down
at the water,
527
00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:20,039
and the next thing I know,
I stop
528
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:23,075
and I'm figuring out
how to get over the rail
529
00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:27,514
and onto the crossbeam
so I can jump,
530
00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,916
because that's what my body
wants to do.
531
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:32,519
It wants to fall.
532
00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:35,488
It wants to be in the water.
533
00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,356
It wants to never come back up.
534
00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:42,529
But I stopped myself. I...
535
00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:44,797
sat down there
right on the bridge,
536
00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:46,699
tried to breathe.
537
00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:49,669
Called my parents.
538
00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,538
I didn't want to die,
539
00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:56,042
but my mind
was telling me to let go.
540
00:22:56,075 --> 00:22:57,577
There's nothing scarier
than realizing your brain
541
00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,546
is plotting against you.
542
00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:05,017
No further questions,
Your Honor.
543
00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,119
MARISSA:
Ah, things are looking up.
544
00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:10,156
Two of theirs
just became two of ours.
545
00:23:10,189 --> 00:23:11,958
(speaking low, indistinctly)
546
00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,594
JUDGE: Does the defense have any
questions for the witness?
547
00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:18,197
HANSEN:
Morning, sir.
548
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,467
Do you recognize this document?
549
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,201
I-I do.
550
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,903
It's a consent form I signed
551
00:23:23,936 --> 00:23:26,539
to participate in the
Dep Pharmaceutical trial.
552
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,441
And, uh, is this
your signature
553
00:23:28,475 --> 00:23:29,976
at the bottom of it?
554
00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:31,143
It is.
555
00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,079
And, uh, can you
tell us the purpose
556
00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,882
of the mandatory
washout period?
557
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:39,452
It's mentioned in the
third paragraph there.
558
00:23:39,486 --> 00:23:43,990
It's, uh, the period of time
between drug trials.
559
00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,559
It's something
the companies insist on.
560
00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:49,662
It exists to make sure
their drugs don't interact
561
00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:52,064
with someone else's drugs
from an earlier trial.
562
00:23:52,098 --> 00:23:54,200
I think we've
just been "Candered."
563
00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:56,903
HANSEN:
And on this form you signed,
564
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,572
how long is the specified
washout period?
565
00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:01,874
It specifies 30 days.
566
00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:03,209
30 days.
567
00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,045
And what were
you doing 27 days
568
00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:09,816
before you started the
Dep Pharmaceutical trial?
569
00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:11,751
Remember, you
are under oath.
570
00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:14,220
Well, I was doing
a lot of things.
571
00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:19,826
But, uh, one of them was,
I was finishing up
572
00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:22,161
the Manhattan Hill Medical
painkiller trial.
573
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,263
Last day, last dose.
574
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:25,965
And do you happen to
know if Simon Jones
575
00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,668
was in that trial as well?
576
00:24:28,701 --> 00:24:30,737
Um, yes, he was.
577
00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:32,905
What drug trial
are they talking about?
578
00:24:32,939 --> 00:24:34,206
Where are they getting this
579
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,042
and why don't we have it?
580
00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,511
HANSEN:
Is 27 days
the same thing as 30 days?
581
00:24:38,545 --> 00:24:39,846
KEVIN: Of course not.
HANSEN: Then how do you know
582
00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:41,280
it wasn't the interaction
of the painkiller
583
00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:42,949
with the antidepressant
that caused
584
00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,917
the suicidal ideation
the two of you experienced?
585
00:24:44,951 --> 00:24:48,220
Because... I know.
586
00:24:48,254 --> 00:24:51,290
Look, we've done so many
of these things.
587
00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:54,193
And it's... everyone does it.
588
00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,796
No further questions.
589
00:25:10,309 --> 00:25:12,144
I don't understand.
You interviewed Kevin.
DANNY: Yeah.
590
00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:14,313
Obviously he didn't tell me
that he and Simon
591
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,649
weren't living up to their
consent form agreements.
BULL: Well.
592
00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:19,919
And there was no way of knowing
about the other drug trial.
593
00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:23,055
Drug trials in the research
stages of pre-FDA approval
594
00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,724
don't need to be reported.
595
00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,293
Well, Dep knew about it.
BENNY: No.
596
00:25:27,326 --> 00:25:30,730
My guess is, Manhattan Hill
Medical tipped them off.
597
00:25:30,763 --> 00:25:34,066
These drug companies
are fiercely competitive,
598
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,169
but they don't like the idea
of being taken to the cleaners
599
00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:40,272
by some guinea pig that
they use to pay chump change
600
00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:41,340
to test their
new products.
601
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:42,775
Where are we with the jurors?
602
00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:44,611
Ten against us,
two for us.
603
00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,646
There's no movement at all?
604
00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:48,915
Sometimes it goes to 11
against us.
605
00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:53,119
How about that
emergency contact guy? Tom?
606
00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,187
Tom Greaver. I can't find him.
607
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,624
Nor can I.
608
00:25:57,657 --> 00:25:59,659
He's virtually invisible online.
609
00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:02,161
What about tracking down other
participants in Simon's trial?
610
00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:04,096
(scoffs)
We're all trying.
611
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:08,067
Okay. Who is, uh, our
next witness, counselor?
612
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:12,071
We, uh, really don't have one.
613
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,942
Terrific.
614
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:17,944
Tomorrow morning when we rest
our non-case,
615
00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,912
the only mystery will be,
616
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,214
is the defense gonna have
a field day toying with us,
617
00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:25,384
or will they be humane and ask
for an immediate dismissal?
618
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,387
I'm sorry, Dr. Bull.
619
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,857
I never should have come
to you with this.
620
00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:34,160
Well, that's why I normally
make it a point
621
00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:36,629
not to work on behalf
of immature slackers
622
00:26:36,663 --> 00:26:38,097
who quit without notice,
623
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:39,866
lie without giving it
a second thought,
624
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:42,034
and jump off rooftops
without any regard
625
00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:44,871
for the people
they leave behind.
626
00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,674
But that's just me.
627
00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,410
(sniffles)
628
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,646
(door closes)
629
00:26:55,014 --> 00:26:56,983
(knocking on glass)
He's busy.
630
00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:59,018
(door opens,
footsteps approaching)
631
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:03,255
Pretty, uh...
632
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:05,992
Pretty savage out there, huh?
633
00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,728
I don't like to lose.
634
00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:10,296
The case or the girl?
635
00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:12,031
Oh, please.
636
00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:16,302
No. You didn't do us
any favors with the jury.
637
00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:20,372
Only people who trust
corporations? That...
638
00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:22,775
That is a hell of a mountain
to climb
639
00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:26,679
when you're trying to prove
corporate malfeasance.
640
00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:29,916
And don't try to tell me
it wasn't for that girl.
641
00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:32,785
"I'm Dr. Bull.
Here...
642
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,921
"I'll give you
the jurors that you want,
643
00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:37,189
and I'll still
beat you, right?"
644
00:27:37,223 --> 00:27:38,891
You happy now?
645
00:27:38,925 --> 00:27:40,392
You rode to the rescue
and reminded me
646
00:27:40,426 --> 00:27:42,461
there's plenty of blame
to go around.
647
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,397
Benny the hero.
648
00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,700
Now leave me alone.
649
00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:49,235
I'm preparing for tomorrow.
650
00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,708
(door opens)
651
00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,710
(gavel bangs)
652
00:27:57,744 --> 00:27:59,211
JUDGE:
Mr. Hansen,
call your first witness.
653
00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:00,780
HANSEN:
The defense would like
654
00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:02,782
to call Tom Greaver
to the stand.
655
00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,321
How the hell
did they find him?
(door closes)
656
00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:13,025
The more important
question is... why?
657
00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:17,429
TOM:
We met in college.
658
00:28:17,463 --> 00:28:19,465
Liked all the same stuff--
659
00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,901
drinking beers,
listening to music.
660
00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:23,469
Drinking beers?
661
00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:24,937
You know,
on Simon's consent form,
662
00:28:24,971 --> 00:28:26,505
he said that he doesn't drink.
663
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,307
Well, this was a long time ago.
664
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,909
We were 18.
665
00:28:29,942 --> 00:28:32,278
I'm pretty sure
he was telling the truth.
666
00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,313
In fact, I'm certain of it.
667
00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:36,348
And what makes
you so certain?
668
00:28:36,382 --> 00:28:38,150
Did something happen?
669
00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:40,953
Yeah.
670
00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:45,491
Around the same time,
freshman year,
671
00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:47,794
Simon OD'd on heroin.
672
00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,495
(gasps)
(shocked murmuring)
673
00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:50,496
Oh, my God.
674
00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,164
No.
675
00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:54,466
Happened at my house.
676
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,003
He came home with me
one weekend.
677
00:28:57,036 --> 00:29:00,039
My mom was an
emergency room nurse
678
00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:01,740
and she saved him
by giving him Narcan.
679
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,011
No one ever knew.
680
00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:06,278
There was no record.
681
00:29:08,815 --> 00:29:10,817
I know his parents never knew.
682
00:29:11,851 --> 00:29:13,485
After that...
683
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,089
...he just went
completely sober.
684
00:29:17,123 --> 00:29:20,927
No drugs, no alcohol,
no nothing.
685
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,795
You think the overdose
was intentional?
686
00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:25,064
Objection. Counselor calling
for speculation.
687
00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:27,299
I'll withdraw the question.
688
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,902
Yeah, but he can't withdraw
the inference.
689
00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:32,304
She's good, damn it.
690
00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:34,807
She's killing us.
691
00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:37,443
She is representing her client
like a pit bull,
692
00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:39,245
and she's not gonna let
a pesky thing
693
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:40,913
like the truth
stand in her way.
694
00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:42,114
MARISSA:
Bull, I'm sorry to interrupt,
695
00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:45,151
but we just went
to 12 red jurors.
696
00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:46,552
(computer beeps)
Yes! Yes, I got it.
697
00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:48,120
I got it.
698
00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:50,857
Tell them to request
a recess, a break.
699
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,992
I found him.
700
00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,593
I found Tom Greaver.
701
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,163
He changed his name.
702
00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:03,535
So we misdirect here,
then we...
703
00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:05,237
BENNY:
Cable.
704
00:30:05,271 --> 00:30:07,406
Thank you for these.
705
00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:14,246
I'm really glad you came.
706
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,982
Yeah.
707
00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,383
Hope it makes a difference.
708
00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:19,418
Oh, I think it might.
709
00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:23,522
I'm glad you came, too.
710
00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:26,425
And if I was harsh last night...
711
00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:29,061
Oh, you were.
712
00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:31,297
But we've been together a while,
713
00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,199
so I know it's only because
you care.
714
00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:34,967
I hate to lose.
715
00:30:37,103 --> 00:30:38,604
Let's go with yours.
716
00:30:38,637 --> 00:30:41,273
BENNY:
That was, uh...
717
00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,242
quite a fascinating story
you told
718
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,311
about your friend Simon
just before we adjourned.
719
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,080
It wasn't a story.
720
00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,482
I didn't mean to imply anything,
Mr. Greaver.
721
00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:53,485
But I am curious.
722
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,423
Your mom kept Narcan at home?
723
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,358
Well, like I said, she was
an emergency room nurse.
724
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,193
Still...
725
00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:05,264
was she anticipating your best
friend suffering an overdose
726
00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,633
or was she just the best
prepared mom on the block?
727
00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,435
Objection.
Calls for speculation,
728
00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,470
and counselor's tone
is provocative.
729
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,638
I'll withdraw the question.
730
00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:15,274
Now, if I wanted
731
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:18,244
to corroborate this story,
who can I speak to?
732
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,379
Say, your mom, or...?
733
00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:21,948
Unfortunately,
she passed four years ago.
734
00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:24,316
I'm so sorry
to hear that.
735
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:28,254
Okay. All right.
So-so-so let's review.
736
00:31:28,287 --> 00:31:29,922
Your mother's no longer with us.
737
00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:31,523
Simon is no longer with us.
738
00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:33,692
Really, the only person
that we can rely on
739
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,495
regarding the truthfulness
of the story is-is you.
740
00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,097
Isn't that correct?
741
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,299
Yeah. I suppose that's true.
742
00:31:40,332 --> 00:31:43,235
The only reason
I mention it, is...
743
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:47,539
we can't find any history
whatsoever on Simon,
744
00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,176
with regard to drug use.
745
00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:52,278
None.
746
00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:56,215
But there is quite a dossier
on a fellow named Tom Belmond,
747
00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,951
who went to college
with you and Simon.
748
00:31:58,985 --> 00:32:02,254
Arrests for, uh,
possession.
749
00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:03,555
Arrests for sales
of narcotics.
750
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,124
Three hospitalizations
751
00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:07,293
for overdoses, and then,
752
00:32:07,326 --> 00:32:08,660
ultimately, of
course, expulsion.
753
00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,296
BULL:
What's that sound?
754
00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:12,464
Is that the sound of jurors
starting to move?
755
00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,334
Do you happen to know
a Tom Belmond?
756
00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:17,569
I'm-I'm sorry.
757
00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,538
I-I didn't hear your response.
758
00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:21,307
You ever hear of a Tom Belmond?
759
00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:25,444
I see, you're-you're having
trouble with this.
760
00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:28,714
Okay. All right. I-I'll make it
a little easier for you.
761
00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:31,617
Aren't you Tom Belmond?
762
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,186
Objection. Is the attorney
asking questions
763
00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,355
or making third party
pronouncements?
764
00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:37,389
Sustained.
765
00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:38,724
Ask a question, counselor.
766
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,392
I'm sorry, Your Honor.
767
00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:42,528
You just got back your two
jurors from yesterday.
768
00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:44,997
I feel the wind shifting.
BENNY:
Didn't you change your name
769
00:32:45,031 --> 00:32:47,366
from Tom Belmond
to Tom Greaver precisely,
770
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,035
so you can avoid
having to mention
771
00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:50,769
your arrest history,
your history with drugs,
772
00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:53,239
while seeking employment
and housing...
773
00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,774
I wanted a fresh start, okay?
774
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,044
I made a lot of mistakes
as a kid, but...
775
00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,446
MARISSA:
One more just came over.
776
00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,182
We are now at nine red
and three green.
BENNY: And isn't it true
777
00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:05,317
your mother smuggled Narcan
out of the emergency room,
778
00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,453
not because she was worried
about Simon,
779
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,421
who had no interest in drugs,
780
00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:11,223
but because she was terrified
781
00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:13,092
that her own son
might overdose one day?
782
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,360
Objection.
And the story
783
00:33:14,393 --> 00:33:17,396
about Simon Jones
attempting to commit suicide
784
00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,298
eight years ago with heroin
was just that.
785
00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,333
It was just a story, right?
Objection.
786
00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:24,303
Again, these are pronouncements,
not questions, Your Honor.
787
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,472
One more green light.
788
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,640
They've got eight,
and we've got four.
789
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,442
Now the fun really begins.
790
00:33:30,476 --> 00:33:32,544
Well, then, here's the question:
how much did Dep pay you
791
00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:35,147
to take the stand
and perjure yourself today,
792
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,782
Mr. Greaver or Mr. Belmond,
793
00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,550
or whoever you say you are?!
Objection,
794
00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,119
Your Honor.
Sustained.
795
00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:41,487
No problem, Your Honor.
796
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,689
Question withdrawn.
(galley murmuring)
797
00:33:43,722 --> 00:33:45,391
I think I'd rather not know.
798
00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:47,559
No further
questions, please.
799
00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:50,162
How's that for an inference?
800
00:33:50,196 --> 00:33:51,330
MARISSA:
Now we've got five,
801
00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,531
and they've got seven.
802
00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:53,699
BULL:
Nice work.
803
00:33:53,732 --> 00:33:56,135
JUDGE: Court will resume
tomorrow morning.
(gavel bangs)
804
00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,172
Read any good jurors lately?
805
00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,640
Well, yes, I have.
806
00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:04,476
And I suspect
that you have, too.
807
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,378
But we both know
that I'm reading
808
00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:07,813
more good jurors
than you are, Dr. Bull,
809
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,216
so stop trying to play with me.
810
00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,284
Although, I suspect
811
00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:15,487
that at some point,
we might get to that, too.
812
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,490
(traffic sounds)
813
00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,096
(pounding on door)
814
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,268
Hi. Sorry to bother you.
815
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,303
I'm looking
for Edgar Paulson?
816
00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:38,710
CHUNK:
Mr. Paulson's name
817
00:34:38,744 --> 00:34:40,446
is on a list of people
who participated
818
00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:42,514
in a drug trial that
we're investigating.
819
00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:44,450
(chuckles): It took me a
while to track him down.
820
00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,485
Is there any way I
could speak to him?
821
00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:49,621
I'm sorry. Uh, Mr. Paulson's
no longer with us.
822
00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:53,492
Is there any way you could share
a forwarding address?
823
00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:55,294
Some way to contact him?
824
00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:59,398
Mr. Paulson hung himself
825
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,467
about three and a half
weeks ago.
826
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,402
(exhales)
827
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,704
I'm so sorry.
828
00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:07,373
I had no idea.
829
00:35:07,406 --> 00:35:09,508
I actually checked
all the names on this list
830
00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:11,443
for deaths and hospitalizations.
831
00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,545
I don't know
how that got past me.
832
00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:15,581
I'm sure it'll show up shortly.
833
00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:17,183
The woman who took care of him,
834
00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,518
she struck me as very thorough.
835
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:20,886
A woman?
836
00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,689
Well, someone he worked with.
Or for.
837
00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:25,657
She would stop by here.
838
00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:27,559
Make sure he took his medicine.
839
00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:29,695
Gave him money occasionally.
840
00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:32,464
She stopped by to see him
the morning we found him.
841
00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:34,733
She was terribly upset.
842
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,868
Took care of all the details.
843
00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:39,438
Even paid for his cremation.
844
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:43,275
Would you happen to have
her name? This woman?
845
00:35:43,309 --> 00:35:44,376
TESSA:
My name is Tessa Snyder.
846
00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:48,414
I am Chief Executive Officer
for Dep Pharmaceutical.
847
00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:50,249
Have been
for about three years now.
848
00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:51,650
And can you tell the jury
849
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,452
what we're doing here today?
850
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,422
And by that I mean
we all know drug companies
851
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,225
face legal actions like this
all the time.
852
00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:01,293
Usually they're settled
out of court.
853
00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:04,663
But why did you, a young CEO,
choose to fight this out
854
00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,465
in a public forum?
BULL:
Nice move.
855
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,435
She's turning the very fact
that we're suing her client
856
00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:11,837
into a laudable thing
in the eyes of the jury.
857
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,805
I may steal that.
858
00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:18,477
One, this company
has an unblemished record
859
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,213
with regard
to drug and testing safety.
860
00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:24,783
And two, this new drug--
861
00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,586
the first created
under my leadership--
862
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,522
is truly
a pharmaceutical miracle
863
00:36:30,556 --> 00:36:32,958
for people who suffer
from depression.
864
00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,862
I welcomed the opportunity
to tell the court,
865
00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,964
the jury, the world, about it.
866
00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:40,532
And can you tell the jury
867
00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,568
why you conduct
868
00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:45,237
these clinical trials?
869
00:36:45,271 --> 00:36:46,672
Well, the first thing
you need to know
870
00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,542
is I got into this business
to help ease
871
00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:51,910
human suffering.
872
00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:53,779
I mention that
873
00:36:53,812 --> 00:36:57,349
because I need you to know
how deeply sorry I am
874
00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:58,550
for the Jones family's loss.
875
00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:01,353
BULL: Excellent segue.
Nicely written.
876
00:37:01,387 --> 00:37:02,954
Nicely performed.
877
00:37:02,988 --> 00:37:04,656
Having said that,
878
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:06,758
we did nothing wrong.
879
00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,561
Simon was screened.
880
00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:12,398
The fact that he was not
completely truthful
881
00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:13,732
is not something we can control.
882
00:37:13,765 --> 00:37:14,966
MARISSA:
Just so you know,
883
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,303
our mirror jury is loving her.
884
00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:18,437
How can you not?
885
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:25,411
And while we need to do better
886
00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:26,578
to ferret out the liars,
887
00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,647
we can't let it stop our work.
888
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,949
These clinical trials
exist for the greater good.
889
00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:32,884
Without them,
890
00:37:32,918 --> 00:37:36,422
there wouldn't be medical
innovations and discoveries,
891
00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:37,856
new cures for everything
892
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:40,459
from reproductive health
to cancer.
893
00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,827
BULL:
Something's going on.
894
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:44,596
She's targeting
juror three. Why?
895
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,798
Well, she's one of our greens,
and she just went red.
896
00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:49,735
Her friend recently passed
from cancer.
897
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:53,439
Wow. This woman
will do anything to win.
898
00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:54,973
Reminds me of me.
899
00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:00,646
BENNY:
Good morning, Ms. Snyder.
900
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,714
Isn't it true
that one of the major problems
901
00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:06,685
these clinical trials face
is recruiting subjects?
902
00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,556
I mean... I can't believe
that there's lots of people
903
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:13,725
who are willing to put
untested drugs into their bodies
904
00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:15,727
for whatever
you're willing to pay them.
905
00:38:15,761 --> 00:38:18,764
Well, it's certainly
a lot easier
906
00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:20,832
to find subjects who suffer
from whatever condition
907
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:21,933
we're trying to target.
908
00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,470
Yes.
909
00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,405
It can be incredibly
difficult
910
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,640
finding healthy volunteers.
911
00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:30,842
Truly healthy volunteers.
912
00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:34,780
BENNY:
And yet, until this drug,
until this lawsuit,
913
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:36,948
your company
had a rare spotless record.
914
00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,351
None of the healthy
volunteers
915
00:38:39,385 --> 00:38:41,119
in the 50 so years
916
00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,954
that the company
has been in existence ever...
917
00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,624
filed a claim
or sought a settlement.
918
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,426
Is that why
919
00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:48,660
you decided
to hide the other suicide
920
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,396
amongst
the ten healthy volunteers?
921
00:38:50,429 --> 00:38:51,830
(shocked murmuring)
922
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,102
I love that sound.
923
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,471
Me, too.
924
00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:01,139
I have no idea
what you're talking about.
925
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:03,809
Well, does the name
Edgar Paulson ring a bell?
926
00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:08,980
Edgar Paulson?
927
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,882
A 62-year-old homeless man
928
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:13,151
with dubious mental acuity
929
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:16,021
who, up until the point
that he hung himself,
930
00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:19,891
was living at the Light
Mission Homeless Shelter?
931
00:39:19,925 --> 00:39:22,561
Is that
Dep Pharmaceutical's idea
932
00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,396
of a healthy volunteer?
933
00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:27,799
MARISSA: Things are looking
greener and greener over here.
934
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:31,437
I think you're mistaken.
935
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,805
Mr. Paulson
was in absolutely fine...
936
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,742
physical and mental shape.
937
00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:39,077
He had fallen
on hard times financially,
938
00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:41,680
and that had taken a toll
on his disposition.
939
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,550
But from a purely clinical
standpoint,
940
00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,652
Mr. Paulson
was an ideal subject.
941
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:50,456
Additionally, he finished
the trial successfully.
942
00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:53,191
Anything that may
have befallen him after that...
943
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:54,860
Six days after that?
944
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,628
Again, Mr. Paulson
945
00:39:56,662 --> 00:40:00,599
suffered from crushing
financial problems.
946
00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:03,802
I can only speculate that that
may be why he took his own life.
947
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:06,972
There's no causation there.
Ah.
948
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:09,741
I guess we'll never know,
will we, Ms. Snyder?
949
00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:12,544
Since you conveniently paid
for the body to be cremated.
950
00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:13,779
(shocked murmuring)
951
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:14,813
Objection.
952
00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:16,815
Relevance.
953
00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:17,916
Doesn't get more relevant
than that.
954
00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:21,487
But please ask the witness
a question
955
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,789
as opposed to simply
making a statement.
956
00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,825
Yes. Ms. Snyder,
957
00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:29,761
did you or did you not
958
00:40:29,795 --> 00:40:32,598
arrange for the cremation
of Mr. Edgar Paulson
959
00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:34,900
once you realized
he had killed himself
960
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,903
after a one month course
of your new drug?
961
00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:42,240
(whispering)
962
00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:44,743
Ms. Snyder?
963
00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,514
BULL:
Three...
964
00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:51,116
two...
965
00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:54,052
...one.
966
00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:59,525
Your Honor, would it be possible
to ask for a brief recess
967
00:40:59,558 --> 00:41:00,926
so the sides
could meet privately
968
00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,661
for a short discussion?
969
00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,930
Can you say "settlement"?
970
00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,132
JUDGE:
This court will take
a 90 minute recess.
971
00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:08,734
(gavel bangs)
972
00:41:08,767 --> 00:41:10,135
(gallery murmuring)
973
00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:27,986
(gentle piano music plays
in background)
974
00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:29,955
(door opens)
975
00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:32,023
(door closes)
BULL:
Oh.
976
00:41:32,057 --> 00:41:35,561
There you are.
977
00:41:35,594 --> 00:41:37,863
Here I am.
Oh.
978
00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,899
Miss?
Uh, your oldest Scotch. Neat.
979
00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:42,601
And a glass of water, please.
980
00:41:42,634 --> 00:41:43,869
Okay.
(chuckles)
981
00:41:43,902 --> 00:41:45,704
(sighs)
982
00:41:45,737 --> 00:41:47,739
You read my mind.
983
00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:49,841
But, then again,
that's what you do.
984
00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:52,110
And you do it very well,
by the way.
985
00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:57,649
I, uh...
986
00:41:59,284 --> 00:42:02,588
I need you to know something.
987
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,823
I didn't bribe
that friend of Simon's.
988
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,658
I'm not saying
989
00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:08,994
that I didn't sense that
something might be afoot, but...
990
00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:11,096
I need you to know something.
991
00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:14,966
In the same way you inferred,
without saying as much,
992
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,235
that Simon attempted suicide
with heroin--
993
00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:20,572
even though I strongly suspect
that's not what happened--
994
00:42:20,606 --> 00:42:23,274
Benny and I
995
00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:27,078
decided to infer
a little something
996
00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:29,581
that we had no way
of knowing was true.
997
00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,316
Maybe someone bribed him.
998
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:34,352
Maybe someone didn't.
999
00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:35,987
We took a shot.
1000
00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,058
Thank you.
1001
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,062
Great minds.
1002
00:42:44,095 --> 00:42:46,197
Here's to seeing you again.
1003
00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,033
Knowing better next time.
1004
00:42:48,066 --> 00:42:49,768
I already rue the day.
1005
00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:51,803
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