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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,999 They've asked me to take on the Mervich case. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,999 Great. I need some help with it. The idea's I do it on my own. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,359 Some idiot decided to take Lina off the Mervich case and give it to me. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,279 I'm the idiot who put you on the case. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,959 Do you have anything like a sweetheart neckline 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,119 with a ballerina hem? 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,199 I know he's in Mensa. 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,599 Baby, will you stop! He's gay. 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,680 He's gay. 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,479 My wheels are your wheels, brother. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,999 Sweet. What does... 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,519 (Speaks Arabic) 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,439 What does that mean? 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,959 Nothing. 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,759 The AG is a total prick, but what you and that memo have done 16 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,480 is destroy any chance of him ever going to trial in this country. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,159 ♪ Theme music 18 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:48,879 ♪ What do I do stand in a shop 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,879 ♪ Waiting for that money to drop 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,159 ♪ Stand all day on a concrete slate 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,999 ♪ My feet are aching, don't get a break 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,519 ♪ What do I do? 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,839 ♪ What am I to do? 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,359 ♪ What do I do? 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,559 ♪ What am I to do? 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,999 GROUP (Sings): ♪ What do I do? 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,080 ♪ What am I to do? ♪ 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,559 Busy morning? 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,479 Yeah, a couple of directions hearings, 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,559 then Andy's coming into the office about 11:30. 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,919 Can't. Got a three-day appeal starting this morning. 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,599 Well, we've got a mention on Friday. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,599 I know, make sure you're ready for it 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,359 OK. They'll probably want to adjourn, 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,839 so if we want a committal date, 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,039 we'll have to give them as much as we can. Yep. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,839 And don't get bossed around by the police. 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,639 They had a pretty case on this one, 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,319 so the brief will be pretty light on. Nothing surer. 40 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,919 Doesn't mean it stands up. Facts and motive. What happened and why. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,999 You have to understand it. Call me later, yeah? 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,519 Sure. Facts... 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,159 ..Motive. Good girl. 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,839 Remember, fingerprints are not enough! 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,600 OK. 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,919 We submit, Your Honour, 47 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:10,919 that many circumstances need to be considered 48 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:12,799 in determining an appropriate sentence. 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,039 The defendant was being restrained at the time, 50 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,919 which induced feelings of fear and panic. 51 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:19,119 Yes, yes, yes. 52 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,119 And this came at the end of a long argument, 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,319 during which he'd been subject to many grave and hurtful insults. 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,239 Yes, but still, Ms Corvini, to bite a man's nose off? 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,599 That is a very proximate and personal attack, agreed? 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,199 Well, of course, Your Honour - 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,719 One might even say, in your face. 58 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 (Lina Laughs) 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,839 Intended as irony, not humour, Miss Badir. 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Apologies, Your Honour. 61 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Apology accepted, this time. 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,679 You enjoy your appearance work, don't you, Lina? 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,439 Sorry if I crossed the line, Judge. 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,959 No, not at all. 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,799 On recent evidence, you seem to know exactly where the line is, 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,839 unlike most of your colleagues. 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,999 Anyway, thanks for giving me five minutes. 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,639 Julie tells me you're Palestinian. 69 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,199 Half, yes. 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,239 Mm. There's a lecture on at the Law Society tomorrow. 71 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,159 A Professor from the Centre for Arabic Studies at ANU 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,079 is just back from the Middle East. 73 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,599 He's delivering a paper 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,039 on the issues that amnesties raise for criminal law. 75 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,039 'Trading Justice for Peace.' 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,599 With a question mark, for obvious reasons. 77 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,399 Justice with a focus on punishment 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,759 will never solve systemic international problems. 79 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,479 But amnesties only work, 80 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,199 if the goal isn't just to end a conflict, but... 81 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,999 Establish lasting peace. 82 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,799 Motive, crime, punishment, 83 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,879 motive, crime, amnesty. 84 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,999 Which is the more appropriate choice? 85 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,199 It's a very difficult balance, of course. 86 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,399 In the interests of flying the flag of peaceful cooperation, 87 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,520 I was thinking we could go together. 88 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,199 A Palestinian and a Jew. 89 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,199 Our own two-state solution. 90 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,119 That's what we'd represent, apparently. 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,999 And it is hard to say no to a judge. It still feels weird. 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,799 It isn't a date, though. 93 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,759 I'm calling it professional development. 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,479 Although, even if it were a date - 95 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,039 Oh, please! 96 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,439 Well, you are desperate. When was the last time? 97 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,959 Me? What about you? 98 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,559 Get me drunk, I'll sleep with anyone, except a cop. 99 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,239 Even I have some sense of propriety. 100 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,759 Yeah, OK, OK! 101 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,239 Are you up to speed yet, or do you want Lina to join us? 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,839 No, I've read it. 103 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,399 So, what happened there anyway? 104 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,399 First with her, now with you? What's going on? 105 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,959 Don't ask me. 106 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,479 What did Tracey say? 107 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,279 It's not about my work, so presumably it's something personal. 108 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:36,799 With you? I guess so. 109 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,519 Happy in here? Sure. 110 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,799 Just give me a couple to get sorted. 111 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,639 Listen, don't get me wrong, Tracey. 112 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,679 You know, I owe you big time for having had a quiet week or two, 113 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,399 but everything on my desk now is really piddling. 114 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,839 It's mostly drugs, mostly pleas. 115 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:55,399 So, I just thought I'd let you know that if anything harder comes up, 116 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,919 I'm ready for it. 117 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,079 In fact, the longer I wait, the worse it gets. 118 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,159 And you could stay objective? 119 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,199 Apply proper legal principles 120 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,159 and personally write the sort of memos of advice 121 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,759 that were attached to your briefs a month or two ago? 122 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,439 I'll give it a go. 123 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,599 The police charge is manslaughter. 124 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,799 The defendant caused the death of his own six-month-old son. 125 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,399 Or we could stick with heroin trafficking for a while if that's... 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,959 No, no, no, that's fine. 127 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,680 ..confronting. I can do it. 128 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Got to get back on the bike some time. 129 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,199 So what can the DPP do for you, Professor? 130 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,519 I'm here because - 131 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,719 have you really finished high school? 132 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,279 And university, yes. 133 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:42,039 How is that possible? 134 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,959 No gap year. Which angers me. Thanks for bringing it up. 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,039 Sorry. You're forgiven. 136 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,559 So? 137 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,119 I'm here because I've committed an indictable offence 138 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,679 and I need to be prosecuted. 139 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,359 Have you told the police? 140 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,879 Oh, those stupid idiots? 141 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,439 Well, you have to go to them first. 142 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,279 They're the only ones who can charge you. 143 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:00,799 I've tried that. 144 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,239 Well if they haven't laid a charge, we can't prosecute. 145 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Can't you order them to lay a charge? 146 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,159 Ahh, I don't know. 147 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,559 Ah, I suppose it depends on what you... what the crime is. 148 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Stealing. 149 00:06:10,561 --> 00:06:15,079 OK, what did you steal? 782,000. 150 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Interesting. 151 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,679 780,000? 152 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,879 That's what you get if you hack into a porn site 153 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,639 and take two dollars from every member. 154 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,679 Three quarters of a million dollars, in a day. 155 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,679 That's what he said. Well, is it true though? 156 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,639 Well he's gone home to get the evidence. 157 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,559 In other news, he did give me the porn site's URL, 158 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,719 which I've forwarded on to everyone. 159 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,399 He did say it's mostly straight stuff, though, 160 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,919 so probably isn't your thing. 161 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,040 Unless you want to see what the other half do. 162 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,639 Average suburban dad. Cops have hit him with manslaughter. 163 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,639 He killed his kid. 164 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Got to figure out what charges the facts sustain 165 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,359 and whether to recommend prosecution. 166 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,439 Well, if you want to talk it over some time - 167 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,519 Yeah, thanks. I might see how I go first, but... 168 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 ..it's appreciated. 169 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,599 (Microwave beeps) Oh! 170 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,719 Oh. Ow! 171 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Oh, come on. Ah! 172 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,279 ERIN: Well, considering Joanne's saying she didn't do it - 173 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,399 She did. But according to her, the attacker was leaving. 174 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,359 There was no attacker, Erin. It's called a lie. 175 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,159 I know, but to get a conviction, 176 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,639 we have to tell a story that makes sense. 177 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,799 And if she did do it, why did she stay around? 178 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,799 Because her sister was unconscious. 179 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,799 Look, when the paramedics arrived, 180 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,159 they walked in and they found Ray dead in the kitchen, 181 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,839 and she hadn't even mentioned him. 182 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,839 Even when they said, 'Who's that, ' she just said, 'Oh, that's Ray'. 183 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,559 I know. And you don't think she did it? 184 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,159 No, no, no, that's not - 185 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,799 What? 186 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,839 Look, before we proceed with murder, I have to get inside her head 187 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,599 enough to understand what happened. 188 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,159 I mean, why do you keep bashing someone that hard? 189 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,159 Because you don't like them! Isn't it bloody obvious? 190 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,599 His brains were all over the kitchen floor, 191 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,119 and she was standing there 192 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,319 with her fingerprints all over the murder weapon. 193 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,199 This cannot be a hard case to prosecute. 194 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,519 Sure. But was it about money? Do they inherit the farm? 195 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,399 Well, who cares? She did it! 196 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,959 Jealousy. 197 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,719 Maybe. But Joanne's not talking anymore, 198 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,319 Ray's dead and the sister's in a medically-induced coma. 199 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,959 I mean, exactly who do you want me to talk to? 200 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,199 Anyone who knew anything about them. 201 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,319 Doctors, chemists, 202 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,919 hairdressers, whatever. 203 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,079 We have. They lived there for five years. 204 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,999 They must have known more people than this. 205 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,079 (Laughs drily) If you find something, 206 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,919 call me anytime. I don't care. 207 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,879 Erin, I can't drop everything. 208 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,720 But if we're saying it was jealousy, we need more evidence, Andy. 209 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Although... 210 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:51,199 ..look, I know this is important to you. 211 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,519 It's going to be huge. Even the mention. 212 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,840 I have to know I've got the right story. 213 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,359 Tomorrow afternoon? 214 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,879 Oh, yes. 215 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,560 What do you want paid leave for? 216 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,399 'Trading Justice For Peace.' 217 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,319 Yes. And it'll count as two points for professional development. 218 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,359 What's the argument? That if Israel frees all of its Hamas prisoners 219 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,999 there'll be an outbreak of peace? Well, I don't know yet. 220 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,199 Well, not after what happened over there yesterday I wouldn't think. What happened yesterday? 221 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,399 Actually, I'm more concerned with here. And to call a spade a spade, 222 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,239 which it looks like I'll have to, supporting political activism 223 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,279 is hardly a good look for a Crown solicitor, 224 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,919 as I have told you more than once, I believe. 225 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,600 You're lucky it's at the Law Society. 226 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,359 I know why she took it from me. 227 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,599 Tariq. 228 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,599 And his mate with the t-shirt - Muslim radicals, she thought. 229 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,319 And because he is, I am too. 230 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,679 So I've been hoiked off all the high-profile matters. 231 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,319 Anything to stop publicity. I get it now. All the facts fit. 232 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,039 Look, Lina - Don't, don't worry, 233 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,600 I'm not going to confront her about it. I just - 234 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,839 You know what? You are? 235 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,759 I am. 236 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,640 I'm not scared of her. 237 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,800 WOMAN: Hey, Ben, you got a second? 238 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,919 What can I do for you? 239 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,159 Where were you at 3am last night, Mr McMahon? 240 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,479 Well, in bed asleep. 241 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,039 Can anyone verify that? 242 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Ah, no, I don't think so. Why? 243 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,519 Sorry, I just need a few minutes. 244 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,839 (Breathy groaning) 245 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,439 What is it? Ah, spam. Just spam. I hate sperm. 246 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,599 Sperm? Spam. Sperm. Spam! 247 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,439 Sorry, what? 248 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Tracey, I'm not a radical Muslim. 249 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,119 Um, ah, good. Yeah, and neither is my brother. 250 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,919 I know that's what you're thinking 251 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,959 and yes, we believe in a free Palestine 252 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,999 and well, if your grandparents 253 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,999 wore around their neck the key to their family home, 254 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,919 the home that they were illegally evicted from over 40 years ago, 255 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,639 you would feel the same way. Lina. 256 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,759 But that does not make us radicals - Lina! Lina! 257 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,879 It just means that we - what? Lina! 258 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,519 The car I sold to Tariq was involved in a police chase last night. 259 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Do you know where we could find your brother, Ms Badir? 260 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,239 You idiot! 261 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,839 Do you even care about what goes on over there, Lina? 262 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,599 Beit Hanoun. Do you remember how pretty it was? 263 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,799 And the fact that we stayed there for a few days? 264 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,759 Do you mind if I talk to my brother before you take him in? 265 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,399 Yeah, no problem. 266 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,039 Listen - Fuck off, Lina! 267 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,679 What happened in Beit Hanoun? 268 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:09,759 They shelled one of our schools. You don't listen to the news anymore? 269 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,919 And this is going to help them, huh? At least I'm doing something. 270 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,079 You're going to get fined and lose your licence. 271 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,599 That's all you're doing. Tariq! 272 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,359 You can tell me how to live my life when you stop working for smug white Christians 273 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,639 who think that we're nothing but radical militants. 274 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,639 And God knows where they get that idea from. 275 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,479 They're words. They're just words, OK Lina? They're not bullets. 276 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,679 And if you cared about your family you'd defend us, not prosecute us. 277 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,919 But that's not lucrative enough for you, is it? 278 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,759 There were three or four different groups 279 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,079 spraying the slogans all over the inner city. 280 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,839 Well, 'stop Israeli genocide' is hardly an incitement to violence. 281 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,119 No, I'm not here wanting you coming down hard on them. They're just boys. 282 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,199 And students always like protesting, no matter where they're from. 283 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,759 But they are impressionable. And if a hardened extremist 284 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,839 starts looking at them as potential recruits, 285 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,999 that would be a worry. 286 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,039 Do we have any hardened extremists? 287 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,439 Saif al Din. 288 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,879 Wouldn't you call a man caught with three rocket launchers an extremist? 289 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,599 Yes, but isn't he in jail? Due for release on the 1st. 290 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,759 We're not jumping at shadows here, maybe? 291 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,879 The Police Commissioner has met with the Premier 292 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,399 and they're in furious agreement. 293 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,439 We cannot release Saif al Din in this climate. 294 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,079 We would look totally irresponsible. 295 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,760 But if he's done his time - 296 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,479 It's a new Community Protection Act. 297 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,039 Heading for Parliament on Thursday. 298 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,399 It allows the DPP to move for an order keeping anyone in custody 299 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,959 if their release is likely to threaten public safety. 300 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,919 And the two of you... drafted this 301 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,319 without even consulting us? 302 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,999 We don't have to. 303 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,599 Well it might have been the appropriate course of action, 304 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,079 given that you've made us the moving party. 305 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,319 Please. Don't you lecture us on propriety. 306 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,319 Excuse me? We're the government, and we want this to happen. 307 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,399 That's all I'm saying. No, it isn't. 308 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,839 Janet. Sorry. Over-sensitive. It's a bad habit. Leave it with us. 309 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,759 Yes. 310 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,639 I do understand where you're coming from. 311 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Thank you. Thank you. 312 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,879 Oh, come on. They can't keep someone in jail beyond their sentence. 313 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,319 For one, it's a state-imposed penalty on top of a court sentence, 314 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,479 which flies in the face of the separation of powers. 315 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,519 Plus it throws away their responsibility 316 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,359 to protect civil liberties as well as social peace! 317 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,879 We are trying to build bridges. 318 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,919 I know they're wrong too, but it's just time we took a breath. 319 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,959 They want good headlines, not good law. 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,079 Let me deal with it. 321 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,719 I'll be a lot more relaxed if I actually have something to do. 322 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,239 Fine. 323 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,759 But you're going to have to do a lot more than merely win the argument, 324 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,959 you're going to have to convince them to change their opinion of you. 325 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,839 At the moment, they think you're the anti-Christ. 326 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Thank you. 327 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,959 The Abe Jackson matter? 328 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Yeah. 329 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Let me know what you think. 330 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,960 (Tapping at keyboard) 331 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,440 (Breathy groaning) 332 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,639 (Groaning stops) 333 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,319 Richard. Professor McLeod's here. 334 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,239 Hey, Richard Stirling. Oh. 335 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,479 Hi. Ah, if we just go this way. 336 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,839 Every 2 transaction is taken from an individual credit card number. 337 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,279 But all you've got for the ID information 338 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,519 is just a user name and an email address? 339 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,079 Correct. And no-one's complained? 340 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,599 What do you think I'm doing? This whole thing is a complaint. 341 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,679 618 million searches a day are about porn. 342 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,639 How does the Western world function any longer? 343 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,959 Half the workforce is staring at porn. 344 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,079 OK. OK. Has your friend here told you 345 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,719 what sort of things are on sites like this? 346 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,759 Well, he's gay, so, you know, parallel universe. 347 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,639 But as it happens, I took a look this arvo 348 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,919 and it all seemed pretty boring. 349 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,119 Some non-violent erotica, which I don't mind, actually, 350 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:12,559 and yeah, all the other misogynist crap but it's not illegal. 351 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,719 Well, neither's smoking. But at least it's heavily taxed 352 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,519 and all those dollars go back into re-educating people not to smoke. 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,719 Well, that's my idea too. 354 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,319 I just need a kickstart with publicity. 355 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,119 And if it's not through the court, I'll go straight to the press. 356 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:32,439 'Man steals fortune, DPP lets him go.' 357 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,079 Not a good time for that headline, is it? 358 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,480 They're yours. I look forward to being arrested. Hm? 359 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,879 What? 360 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,159 Gay? Aren't you? 361 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,439 No! Really? Yes! 362 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,639 But sweetheart neckline and ballerina hem - 363 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,239 Two older sisters. Seriously! 364 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,519 OK. OK. 365 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,919 Oh, but um, when we're at home, you have to be gay, alright? 366 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,839 I'm sorry. Well, Conrad. 367 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,399 He was a bit jealous about sharing with straight Richard. 368 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,239 Ohh! He can live with gay Richard. 369 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,359 So when you're at home, 370 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,759 while you're around us, it'd all in all just be easier 371 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,239 if girls weren't your thing. 372 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Work - straight. Home - gay. 373 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,759 Tatum. 374 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,519 Hi. 375 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,519 Do you have a few minutes for us? 376 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,999 Yes. 377 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,279 So would you say that you're spoilt? 378 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,119 Some people think I am. 379 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,759 You don't agree? 380 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,479 Well, I'm Danny Novak's daughter. 381 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,639 All through high school I was called the Gangster's Girl. 382 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,999 'Don't pick on Tatum, her Dad'll blow up your house!' 383 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,639 Ha ha ha. 384 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,599 There's got to be some compensation for growing up with that shit. 385 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,279 Especially since he's not a gangster. 386 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,759 He does have a colourful past. 387 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,559 He married Mum when he was 29. 388 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,719 Ever since then he's been absolutely straight. 389 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,959 Still - your apartment? 390 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,199 He bought it, yes. 391 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,279 Prestige car yard where your fiance works. 392 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,079 He owns, yes. 393 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,439 Dolce & Gabbana bag, Chanel perfumes. 394 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Seems he buys you a lot of things. 395 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,999 He's never asked you to do anything for him in return? 396 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,520 No. 397 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,359 The morning after the Christmas party, you came in at 5:37. 398 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:37,599 You didn't log into your computer or use Facebook until 6:01. 399 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,680 I went to the loo, got a coffee, I grabbed the file from Lina's office. 400 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,679 Look, I didn't even know the Attorney General. I'd never met him. 401 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,879 Nor had my Dad. He didn't have any reason to ask me to leak anything. 402 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,640 Did he? 403 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,639 How'd the interrogation go? 404 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Yeah, fine. 405 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,079 MAN: Interview commenced at 1:35pm, 406 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,839 in front of Detective Sergeant Stu Fuller 407 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,479 and Detective Constable Brummel. 408 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,559 Can you please confirm your name and address? 409 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Abe Jackson, 24 Angel Street, Lidcombe. 410 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:45,240 OK, Abe, you can tell us what happened yesterday? 411 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,839 Um, I got up about 7:00. 412 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,679 Pam was already up with little Tom, 413 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,599 and I guess we just had the same brekkie as always 414 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,199 and um, some toast and juice. 415 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,679 And then the phone started ringing. 416 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,759 Some days are like that when you're in sales. 417 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,679 You, you've gotta talk to the clients, so - 418 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,479 so, I, ah, I talked to Pam 419 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,759 and she said something like - I don't know, 420 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,359 like, um, 'I'll help you out.' 421 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:27,039 So we headed out to the car and I'm still on the phone, 422 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,919 so Pam's carrying Tommy and... 423 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,679 ..and I opened the car door 424 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,879 and stay out on the phone, 'cause this guy's just - 425 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,359 he's just going on and on about how we ripped him off, 426 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,519 and I'm like, 'Well, fine, just bring it back.' 427 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,439 And it goes on like this for a couple of minutes. 428 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,399 So, ah, so Pam, just - she gives me a kiss on the cheek. 429 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,799 She goes, um, 'Have a good day, ' and I go, 'You too.' 430 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,879 And she says, 'Don't forget day care, ' and I go, 'Sure.' 431 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,879 And then I switch the phone onto loud-speaker 432 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,919 and keep talking while I get in the car. 433 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,439 So you drove to work? 434 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,599 All the way to work, yeah. Phone never stops. 435 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,960 It's just one of those mornings. 436 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,199 I guess... 437 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,640 ..I didn't put him in, see? 438 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,039 I didn't put him in his car seat. 439 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,079 And it, um, it sort of, um, faces backwards 440 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,759 so you can't see it from the mirror. 441 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,119 Didn't hear anything. 442 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,119 I just didn't figure. 443 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:36,719 I didn't figure anything. 444 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,560 Really. And I just didn't think he was there. 445 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,679 So, um, 446 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,639 all the, ah, spots were taken, 447 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,119 so I um, I just parked in the street, just around the side, 448 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,959 and I can remember thinking, three or four times during the day, 449 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,519 you know, 'Don't forget day care, don't forget day care, ' 450 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,799 So when it went five, I just ran out, got straight in the car. 451 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,439 I put the, um, 452 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,520 put the air con on full... 453 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,760 ..because it had been so hot. 454 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,040 'Cause it smelt a bit. 455 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879 And um, and when I got to day care, 456 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,800 they were like, 'Well, he never got dropped off.' 457 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,519 That kind of threw me a bit. 458 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,000 That was the worst. 459 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,519 That moment when you know - 460 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,039 you know what's happened 461 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:54,399 and you think, 'Please, God, just, maybe he's just still asleep.' 462 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,200 You just - you just think, please God, just let him still be sleeping. 463 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,519 And then he had to call his wife 464 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,559 and tell her their son was dead 465 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,239 because he'd left him in the car. 466 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,079 Can you imagine making that call? 467 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,719 So what are you thinking? 468 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,399 I don't know. I mean, his negligence led directly to a loss of life 469 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,799 so yeah, we have all the elements for manslaughter. 470 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,519 There's no dilemma about that. 471 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,719 And yet, is a conviction really in the public interest? 472 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,399 I mean, he's already given himself a life sentence. 473 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,200 What does our society consider a fair punishment? 474 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,799 So whatever I write in the memo of advice, 475 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,799 this is David's call though, right? 476 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,399 And Tracey knew that when she gave it to you. 477 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,359 It's one of those tricky matters he'll personally review. 478 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,999 It's not your normal 'I agree and so direct.' 479 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,840 They - they really just want to see how you're coping. 480 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,519 If I can I stay calm and apply sound legal advice to all the issues? 481 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879 Correct. 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,999 Why do I feel like the kid 483 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 whose teacher's just told him what's in the exam? 484 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520 You still have to pass the test, though. 485 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,440 (Alarm beeps) 486 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,000 (Phone rings) 487 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Erin O'Shaughnessy. 488 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:12,919 Hi! How's it going? 489 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,719 Oh, Rhys. Hi. Any progress? 490 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,239 (Doorbell rings) 491 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,399 Ah, well, we had a meeting and I think it went well. 492 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,919 Good. 493 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,039 The police agreed we had to get more statements. 494 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,959 We still think it was a love triangle gone wrong, but, basically, 495 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,959 there's a lack of evidence. And you brought that to their attention? 496 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,519 (Doorbell rings) Ah, yes. 497 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,479 What's that? Front door. 498 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,599 Do you want to call me back later? 499 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,439 Do you mind? Coming! 500 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,959 Don't want your boyfriend catching you talking to me. 501 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040 As if that would happen. 502 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,439 I mean, there isn't one. 503 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Not that I want to keep anything secret. 504 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Bye, Erin. We'll talk tomorrow. 505 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,279 Great. So cool. 506 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,839 (Doorbell persists) 507 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,439 What? 508 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,559 Oh, hello. 509 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,639 Um, sorry. I wasn't expecting - 510 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879 No - you said any... time. 511 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,399 Well - 512 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,239 And considering how pressing this is, 513 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,199 I mean, if you've got time to read this now, 514 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,439 we should probably discuss it as soon as possible. 515 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,160 OK. Mm. 516 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,439 Right. Um, come in then. 517 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Right. 518 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,119 Shouldn't, um, take you too long. Is, um, Lina home? 519 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,799 Not yet. She's calming her mother down, I think. 520 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,799 Right. 521 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,279 I'll just, um... 522 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Yeah, yeah. 523 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,999 He might get to keep it. Are you serious? 524 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,999 Well the point is, for a charge of theft to be proven, 525 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,279 we need to have the 'other' who's been stolen from, 526 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,319 and that's going to be the problem. 527 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,919 You've got hundreds of them, haven't you? 528 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Well, not yet. At the moment they're just user names 529 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,959 like 'Bigtits69' and 'Boxpounderking, ' 530 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,039 so, now what we now have to do is convince whoever Boxpounderking is 531 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,759 that it's worth outing himself in front of the national media 532 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,599 as a member of an adult porn site for the sake of 2. 533 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,319 Yeah. It's a tough ask, huh? 534 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,839 Well, would you go to court 535 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,639 if it meant Tate finding out you liked hardcore bondage photos? 536 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,239 You've got to be kidding. She hates getting handcuffed. 537 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,399 It's fun when I tie him up, but that's just teasing. 538 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,119 No, no, she calls it teasing, but - 539 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,079 When men do it, it gets ugly. What do you call it? 540 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,039 It's teasing. Teasing. 541 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,599 She doesn't mind the straight naked stuff, though. 542 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,639 Yeah? 543 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,639 Well if it's non-violent, I mean, 544 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,879 the legal definition of pornography 545 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,599 is material that exists solely for the purpose of sexual arousal 546 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,119 and, well to be honest, sometimes sex is all I'm thinking about. 547 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,639 Really? When? 548 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,759 Well it's not all the time. 549 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,119 For the two or three days women ovulate, 550 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,959 the hormones are so strong 551 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,799 that sometimes we can't even hear what a guy's saying. 552 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,959 We cover it well and pretend we're listening, 553 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,999 and don't make any sudden movements, 554 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,639 but, really, we just want to fuck them. 555 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,959 That's why pornography's been around forever. 556 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,759 Like - like um, in Pompeii, 557 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,439 the villa with the picture of the guy 558 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,119 with the huge dick, like this big. 559 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,679 Yes, that's right. 560 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,239 You would have loved that at school. Bet that got you going, yeah? 561 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,959 Dick this big! 562 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,199 I did well at ancient, yes. 563 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,279 The funny thing is is how it can be so common and so embarrassing. 564 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,119 I don't get it. 565 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440 But that's just people. Everyone has to hide something. 566 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,279 You think that you know everything about someone, 567 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,280 and then when it's least convenient, you find out you don't. 568 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,959 Human beings are so hopeless. 569 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,519 It's annoying. 570 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,319 And I hate being annoyed. Make me happy. 571 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,919 Well are you ovulating now? 572 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,919 OK. 573 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,479 I might start emailing some of these user names 574 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,679 and explain to them the gravity of the crime 575 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,559 and how they would be helping 576 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,119 rid society of the porn that, ironically, 577 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,319 they all enjoy looking at, 578 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,839 to appear in court 579 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,999 and maybe someone can help us prosecute a very rich, 580 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,439 retired, 581 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,239 evangelical maths professor. 582 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,159 (Tatum yells excitedly) 583 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Yep. 584 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,359 You don't have to stay. No, that's alright. 585 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,319 May as well hear your reaction now. 586 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,639 (Door closes, Lina sighs loudly) 587 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,559 Can you believe my Mum thinks I can just arrange to get charges dropped? 588 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,519 Like she's so predic - 589 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,119 She - 590 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,959 Oh. Hello. 591 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,079 Hi. How's your brother? 592 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,719 Oh, he's, he's fine. Wearing it like a badge of honour, little prick. 593 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,359 Why, why is he...? 594 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,719 More statements. The Mervich case. 595 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,519 Ah. 596 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,480 Come and I'll get you a drink. 597 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,679 He's been here for half an hour. 598 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,679 Do you think he thinks... him and me, or something? 599 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,119 What? Well, he could have emailed. 600 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,039 He didn't have to come over in person, at night, here, 601 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,639 to see me, did he? 602 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,639 Unless... 603 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,159 Doesn't he know about cops and the DPP? 604 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,119 Is, ah, anything wrong? 605 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,439 No, no. Oh. Yes. 606 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,039 Lina! 607 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,719 Well, Erin was just a little concerned 608 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,239 that you might be thinking that she and you could - 609 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,039 Not that I'd mind, normally. 610 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,919 It's just we get told a lot 611 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,239 that affairs between cops and DPP solicitors 612 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,959 are always a temptation, but they never work. No. 613 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,919 You know, people talk. There's always rumours of bias and compromise. 614 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,799 It's just dumb. 615 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,759 Mm. So, not that it was... 616 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,559 No, it wasn't. I just thought you should read that stuff now, 617 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,079 and see if you still wanted more. That's the only reason why I'm here. 618 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Oh, OK. 619 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Thanks. No, it's not a problem. 620 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Five more minutes? Sure, yeah. 621 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,319 That is terrifying. What? 622 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,080 How easily you lie. You are so conv- 623 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,719 We don't have time. 624 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,759 Five minutes? Are you kidding? I could make love to you in a second. 625 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Oh, that's not much of a boast. 626 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,879 Andy? Andy! The SES guy. 627 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,879 Did you read that? 628 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,359 Drops Ray home after three days out rescuing that kid, 629 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,399 and the boys have bought Ray a slab, 630 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,839 and as he walks towards the house - oh hang on, where's the photo? 631 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,839 As he walks towards the house, 632 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,599 the SES guy says - 633 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,519 Oh, where is it? 634 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,159 The SES guy says, 'Both girls skipped out to meet him, 635 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,879 both in the same sort of dress, 636 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,399 with their long brown hair blowing all about them, 637 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,919 and I couldn't help thinking, 638 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,199 what a lucky bastard!' 639 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,159 So, that's what the SES guy said this afternoon, right? 640 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,719 But look. 641 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,959 That's how she was when the paramedics answered the 000 call. 642 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,599 So her sister's unconscious, 643 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,359 her hubby's dead, she calls for help and then she cuts her own hair? 644 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Mm. Tea? 645 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,439 So what's your explanation? 646 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,999 She did it. Ray had been away with the SES for three days, 647 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,999 came back, said I want Heather-Marie tonight. 648 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,639 Joanne snaps, bang, kills him. 649 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,719 Then thinks, 'Shit, gotta run, change how I look.' 650 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,479 So she cuts her hair, and then feels guilty about her sister. 651 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,119 And the intruder? Didn't exist. 652 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,479 Alright. On the strength of this, this afternoon, 653 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719 why don't we ask for a committal date? 654 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:33,559 You got my diary? There is more. More? 655 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,199 Andy found these, to give him his due. 656 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,999 Heather-Marie's MRIs. 657 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,239 That's the recent trauma, but look, 658 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:43,159 three old fractures, all healed. 659 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,639 Still, she lives on a farm. Could be an accident. 660 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,159 Maybe. 661 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,439 If the whole thing was sibling rivalry, then maybe Joanne hit her. 662 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Still, I see where you're going with this. Maybe we shouldn't rush it. 663 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,360 Thanks for coming in. Come into my office. 664 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,999 (Breathy groaning) What? No! I don't want that! No! 665 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,719 David! Morning. 666 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,519 I'm going to be with these investigators 667 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,999 for the next half hour or so, so, no interruptions. 668 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,760 Of course. Thank you. 669 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,599 I know I'm the newest one here, 670 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,799 but, well, maybe it's because I'm the newest 671 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,719 that I wanted you all to know at once. 672 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,799 Um, that night of the Christmas party, I know I didn't do anything, 673 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,039 but then we've all said that so obviously one of us is lying. 674 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,679 And I know some of you think that I could be lying now. 675 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,439 My Dad spent 2-million 676 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,119 on a tender for a government construction project 677 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,879 but lost out 678 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,119 because that lying rapist, Quinn, argued against it in Cabinet. 679 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,559 That's why they think I did it. 680 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,800 So now would be a really good time for whoever did do it to own up. 681 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,759 Great. 682 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,999 I finally think I'm going to do the right thing 683 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,559 and this is what happens. 684 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,079 Well, look, 685 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,399 I've never played the Danny Novak card in my life, 686 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,679 but I'm telling you now, whoever it is, 687 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,519 if you try to pin this back on me, you will be fucking sorry. 688 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,919 Losing your job, or being disbarred, 689 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,440 or going to jail are going to start looking like really good options. 690 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,599 Danny Novak? 691 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,879 Yeah, he's - he's a real piece of work. 692 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,359 From memory, something like 17 assault convictions, 693 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,159 three underworld murder trials, 694 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,759 and got out of all of them. 695 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,679 But that was back in the '80s though, 696 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,839 so he's now a respectable businessman, of course. 697 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,079 I shouldn't have, ah- 698 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,479 It wasn't a threat. It was just uncool. 699 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,039 I'd never do it. He wouldn't, either. 700 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,319 Um, forget it, please. 701 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080 Tantrum over. Let's just pretend it didn't happen. 702 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,919 Sorry, I'm just a teensy bit stressed, 703 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,879 which is particularly irritating 704 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,960 because I had really good sex last night. 705 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,119 What planet is she from? 706 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,039 Hate her. 707 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,040 Why does she get really good sex? 708 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,079 Richard Stirling's only motive is money, 709 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,239 though it'd hardly be the only crime committed for monetary gain. 710 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,479 All five are still persons of interest, though, 711 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759 and we can't rule out Julie Rousseau. 712 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,600 Or Janet King, for that matter. 713 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,439 So where to from here? 714 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,439 Someone here knows more than they're saying, 715 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,119 and they'll be feeling the pressure. 716 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,839 And they're all talking about it. 717 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,679 So we'll just increase our surveillance and wait. 718 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,119 Well, how do you increase surveillance? 719 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279 I'm afraid that we can't discuss our methodology. 720 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,399 Well, surely you don't mean listening devices? 721 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,479 Not here? 722 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,839 Well no court will grant you an order to bug the DPP. That's outrageous! 723 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839 Well, we'll certainly be playing by the rules, 724 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,159 so if that's the case, there's no need to panic, is there? 725 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,039 But we are investigating 726 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,239 how a Minister of the Crown lost his portfolio 727 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,920 and his reputation without a fair trial. 728 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,519 Ah, I'm just off to that lecture. I could be a couple of hours. 729 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,079 OK. 730 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,039 How did it work out? With your brother? 731 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,879 Ah, not too bad, everything considered. 732 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,999 He got charged with defacing public property 733 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,959 and resisting arrest. 734 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,679 He's still defiant. 735 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,719 Mum's furious. We'll probably get a court date soon. 736 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,759 Maybe a fine. But um, thanks for asking, Tracey. 737 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,079 Oh, yes, well, we all make a bad decision now and then. 738 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,399 As long as we learn from it, that's the main thing. 739 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,399 And face the consequences. JANET: Lina... 740 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,239 Yes. 741 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,000 ..you coming? 742 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,279 Of course, Hamas sent a suicide bomber to a shopping mall, 743 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,199 and that's what these Israeli missiles are trying to avenge. 744 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,719 It's the usual tit for tat story. 745 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,359 Janet. Hello. 746 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,279 Ah, Lina, this is Miriam Manse, the AG's Director General. 747 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,959 This is the hot ticket in town, it seems. 748 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160 Excuse me. I'll see you inside. 749 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,119 Eli Rosenberg asked her along. 750 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,239 He thought a Jew sitting with an Arab might speak louder than words. 751 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,399 You bothered to look at our Protection Act yet? 752 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,919 Yes. Objectively? I believe so. 753 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,519 Any improvements you'd like to suggest before we table it? 754 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,079 Well it's unconstitutional, 755 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,039 so I'd rather it wasn't tabled in the form it's drafted. 756 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,479 You're giving a judge the power to lock someone up without a trial. 757 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,959 No, we're giving them the power to keep someone in jail 758 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,719 if there's a high risk to public safety. 759 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,719 The original punishment is over. There has be-The public don't want 760 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,239 people like Saif-al-din released. 761 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,999 And every State Parliament has the right 762 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,799 to give their judges any power they want. 763 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,199 As long as it doesn't offend the Federal constitution, 764 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719 and locking someone up without a trial does exactly that. 765 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,719 The High Court will bin it. I'm just putting it out there. 766 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,799 We need to create measures or goals 767 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,599 for the prisoners to achieve while they're in custody 768 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,479 and then their compliance or not can be a matter for trial and judgement. 769 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,479 The answer's in there somewhere, 770 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,479 and I am more than happy to help you find it. 771 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,520 Seriously, happy to help. 772 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,039 You're really loving this, aren't you? 773 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,479 No, I'm just trying to suck up to one of the cool girls 774 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,360 who won't let me sit with her at lunchtime. 775 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,919 It's ironic, isn't it? 776 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,719 Everyone's here to support freeing criminals in the name of peace, 777 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,960 and we want to keep them locked up. 778 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,999 Can't you just write what you think they want to read? 779 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,759 It wouldn't fool Janet. 780 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239 So write what you feel, then. 781 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,079 Good thinking, but what do I feel? 782 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,879 You feel that 783 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,799 just because a man has immense regret for his actions, 784 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,359 the fact is, they still led to a loss of life. 785 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,319 Yes, tick. 786 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,799 But every time I watch his interview I think, 'You poor bastard.' 787 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,879 I mean, what's the point in going after you? 788 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,479 I mean, I've got to be consistent, don't I? 789 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,719 If I'm not consistent, then I've got no authority. 790 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,239 A few weeks ago I'm saying, 791 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,999 'If your actions cause a loss of life, then you need to pay.' 792 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,639 But you weren't just saying that. Cooper does need to pay. 793 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,759 So, why not this bloke? Because he - 794 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,280 He caused a loss of life, too. 795 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,559 It's not law. 796 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,079 OK, I'm not applying the law, 797 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,119 and that's why they gave me the bloody case in the first place. 798 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,800 Just go back and apply it. 799 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,559 Good luck. Thanks. 800 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,519 Um, that was the hospital. Heather-Marie. 801 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,759 Any change? Yeah, her stats are improving. 802 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,439 She's now 7 on the Glasgow Coma Scale, 803 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,279 so it's heading in the right direction. 804 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,840 Good. That'll help. 805 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,399 Matter of Crown versus Joanne Mervich. 806 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,799 Erin O'Shaughnassy for the Crown, Your Honour. 807 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,279 George Prasses for Ms Mervich. 808 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,239 Thank you, Counsel. How're we travelling with this? 809 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,479 Are we looking at a committal date before Easter? 810 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,079 Your Honour, we only received the full brief this morning. 811 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,799 This it? 812 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,999 Ah, yes, Your Honour. 813 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,439 I trust you read at a reasonable pace, Mr Prasses? 814 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,759 Ah, yes, Your Honour. 815 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,919 And the Crown doesn't plan to drown the defence 816 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239 with a constant flow of witness statements, does it? 817 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,839 No, Your Honour. Although we would like to apply for an adjournment. 818 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,559 Why? Ah. 819 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,919 The defendant's sister was also in the house at the time of the offence. 820 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,359 She has been in a coma since the night in question, 821 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,919 but she may soon be in a position to make a statement, 822 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,479 which could have a critical impact on the Crown case. No! 823 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,199 We submit that a committal date 824 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,959 should not be set until after that statement. 825 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,839 No, wait. I-I - Can the defendant please be quiet. Mr Prasses? 826 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,639 No objection to an adjournment, Your Honour. 827 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,879 If you talk to her, you've gotta talk to me. 828 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,479 I want to talk to the police again. 829 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,679 Now. This afternoon. 830 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Before they do anything else, they've got to listen to me. 831 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,639 Not one? 832 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,319 No-one? I could keep going. There are over 300,000 of them. 833 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,119 All in Australia? Ah, no. Around the world. 834 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,439 Well, we're not going to fly someone out from Mexico 835 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279 to say they've been robbed of two bucks by a bloke in Australia. 836 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,359 No, that's why I've been targeting the dot. au email addresses. 837 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,119 But there's still over 5,000 of those. 838 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,999 Well, has anyone replied? 839 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,319 Ah, about 100 or so. 840 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,279 And no-one wants to put up their hand and say they've been robbed? 841 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,599 They're more concerned we might close the site down. 842 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279 Oh! 843 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,879 Is this the porn site meeting? 844 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,639 That it is. 845 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,159 Can we do it? 846 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,199 Not likely. 847 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,039 Well I could keep trying, but - No, no. 848 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,199 This wasn't one to go to the battlements over. 849 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,359 No cross-border issues. 850 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,719 A defendant who wants to be charged in order to plead not guilty. 851 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,039 Why waste money pursuing the prosecution for larceny 852 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,599 when no-one's willing to come forward and say they've been robbed? 853 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,639 Well, it's still not going to look good when he goes to the press. 854 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,240 'DPP not so cocksure about prosecution.' 855 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,399 DPP blows off porn thief? Yes, thank you. 856 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,839 I'm sure it will be uncomfortable for a day or two, 857 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,959 but we have to base our decisions 858 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,359 by applying the rule of law, that's all. 859 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,399 And at least nobody from this department 860 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,199 looked at the degrading images on that website. 861 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,759 Ahh, I did. 862 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,680 Except for one solicitor assigned to review the matter. 863 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,079 I think it's an appalling indictment on the standards of modern society. 864 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,159 The Department of Public Prosecutions decides 865 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,599 that stealing 700,000 is not a crime worthy of prosecution. 866 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,919 REPORTER: Is that a surprise? 867 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,679 It beggars belief, in all honesty. Did they give you a reason? 868 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,839 Just said they couldn't do it. 869 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,759 And that's what my actions will fund. 870 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,879 A public campaign to expose the porn industry 871 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,200 and all the arms of government that protect it. 872 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,999 Does David know what's happening out there? 873 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,639 Ah, yeah. 874 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,759 TRACEY: And then after I tripped over the cord, 875 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,999 which pulled the computer off the desk, 876 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,519 then I was overbalancing, and knocked over the orchid, 877 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,319 which unfortunately smashed right on top of the computer, 878 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,119 and right where the - the important bits are. 879 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,359 You wouldn't read about it, really. 880 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,679 I might be able to retrieve some of the information from the hard drive. 881 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,519 No, no, no, just pick it up and throw it out. Please. 882 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,039 OK. 883 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,439 I went through all the legal considerations for sentencing, 884 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,039 and applied each of them in turn for this particular offence. 885 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,639 Punishment? 886 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,679 Well, it's already been self-inflicted. 887 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,879 We couldn't add to that. 888 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,599 And rehabilitation is irrelevant. 889 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,399 I don't even think there's a strong enough case for public expectation, 890 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,359 given the circumstances. 891 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,479 Specific deterrence? Irrelevant. 892 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,119 I mean, as if he's ever going to think about doing it again. 893 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,599 General deterrence? 894 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,199 Yeah, that was a 50-50. 895 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,559 Should we make the public aware of the consequences? 896 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,759 All of those people running in for a quick coffee 897 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,639 while the kid's asleep in the back. 898 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,119 Or parking the car to read the paper while the baby's napping. 899 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,639 I mean, surely a conviction here 900 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,319 could help prevent further tragedy, right? 901 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,679 You could certainly argue that it would. 902 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,839 Yep, you could. And what about the baby? 903 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,079 Doesn't he deserve an advocate too? Sure. 904 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,279 But the assumption behind general deterrent 905 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,239 is someone thinking about doing something 906 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,079 and then being deterred by considering the consequences. 907 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,199 Which applies here, doesn't it? See, I don't think it does. 908 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,039 See here there was no thought. 909 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,519 And if it happens again, it'll happen whether on not we prosecute Abe now. 910 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,719 So while the facts, they support an indictment for manslaughter, 911 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,760 my advice would be not to proceed. 912 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,159 I understand that not pursuing a prosecution might be brave, 913 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,679 given the current climate, 914 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,719 but I didn't think that that should be a factor. 915 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,479 No. 916 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,399 Nice job though, Ben. 917 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,599 Not sure if I agree with you, 918 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,439 but you've given me a lot to think about. 919 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,799 I'm going to let it marinate for a few weeks 920 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,279 before announcing my decision. 921 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,320 Thank you. 922 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,359 Just had a call from the AG's department. 923 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,599 Whatever it was you did, 924 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560 well done. 925 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,599 (Giggling) ERIN: Lina? 926 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,160 Fuck! Ah, yeah! Just getting changed. 927 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,759 Hey, I thought you had a meeting with Rhys tonight. 928 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,039 Domestics. He had to go. Did you get any food? 929 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,719 Oh, no. I didn't know you'd be home. 930 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,999 What's this? 931 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,839 Um, Andy came. Whats-her-name talked to him for two hours this arvo. 932 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,519 Said you're gonna love it. 933 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:30,799 He didn't stick around this time? Ah, no. In and out, you might say. 934 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,360 Come on! 935 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,319 Come on, come on, come on! 936 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,759 So, Joanne, previously you have said you saw an intruder? 937 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,439 But now you admit there was no intruder. 938 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,079 Nup. 939 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,239 OK, so what happened? 940 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,919 Ray came home? 941 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,399 Yeah, with beers. 942 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,879 And? 943 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,879 We just got so scared, you know? 944 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,999 As soon as we saw the beers, we just thought, 'shit.' 945 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,519 We just knew, see, 946 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719 we, like, knew it. 947 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,999 Nothing we could do, was there? 948 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,679 About what? 949 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,959 We always copped it worse when he drank. 950 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,640 Didn't matter if we'd done stuff right or not. 951 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,839 So by 'copped it', you mean he hit you? 952 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,759 Yeah. 953 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,399 Bashed us up, you know? 954 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,119 Brought us into line. 955 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,919 No point playing up around Ray. He wouldn't stand for nothin'. 956 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880 Did he hit you often? 957 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,519 Yeah, most nights. 958 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,519 One or the other of us, 959 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,719 depending on what we'd done, 960 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,559 or hadn't done. 961 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,119 Then he'd just do us after that, 962 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,959 or just... 963 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,640 ..you know. 964 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,999 Did you ever think about going to see a doctor? 965 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,600 Nah. 966 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,200 Said he'd kill us if we saw a doctor. 967 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,279 So when he came back, with the beers, when he laid into me, 968 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,879 Heather-Marie, she just - 969 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,159 she picked up the boltcutters and she got him. 970 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,079 Heather-Marie did? 971 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,759 She got him. 972 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,719 How many times? 973 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,439 I don't know. Lots. 974 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,559 I just screamed for a bit, and then I grabbed her to stop her, 975 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,199 and we sort of struggled 976 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,199 and she slipped in all the blood and stuff. 977 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,519 And she cracked her head on the table, I think. 978 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,479 Left me with the boltcutters, see? 979 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,359 Hm. 980 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,839 And then she wouldn't come to, 981 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,359 so I called the ambos and, 982 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160 and then they turned up and that's it. 983 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,519 What, you think she's telling the truth? 984 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,599 About who killed him? Who knows? 985 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,479 About everything else, all the abuse. 986 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,560 Well, if you don't think you'll get a conviction for murder, say so. 987 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,759 What's the problem? 988 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,479 Um, look, I - 989 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,719 can I just come clean about something? 990 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,839 I can't, sort of, talk properly unless - 991 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,399 What? 992 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,959 Tracey didn't take you off this because of Tariq. 993 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,439 Rhys asked for me to be on it. 994 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,199 I should have said before, I know, 995 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,759 and I've been feeling really bad 996 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,959 because I know you'd never keep a secret from me, 997 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680 but that's what happened. 998 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,599 Well, that's OK. Don't worry about it. 999 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,839 So, Rhys chose me, 1000 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,159 and he wants me to prepare the case for him to run as a murder trial. 1001 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,959 I had to understand the motive 1002 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,879 so it would make it easier to explain it all to a jury, 1003 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,879 and yet, now I get it. 1004 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,639 Was it murder? 1005 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,720 I don't know. 1006 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:16,559 If we proceed with the charge, 1007 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,639 the defence could use all the history of abuse to go for an acquittal 1008 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,399 on self-defence. Even though these women had access to a car, 1009 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,919 they weren't imprisoned, 1010 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,279 and they could move freely about the community? 1011 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,679 Their fear was their prison. 1012 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,119 Repeated abuse leads to learned helplessness. 1013 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,320 It is a classic syndrome. It's real. 1014 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,479 However, in Joanne's interview, 1015 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,719 she also makes it clear that the boltcutters, 1016 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,639 a tool used exclusively outdoors, were already in the kitchen. 1017 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,759 That strongly argues premeditation, 1018 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,039 which does, of course, 1019 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,920 strengthen a case for murder. 1020 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,519 I agree. 1021 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,639 And so, direct. 1022 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,359 Good. Thank you. 1023 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,279 Thanks, Erin. 1024 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,240 It's great work. 1025 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,879 Mother drugged the kids, suffocated them, then tried to top herself. 1026 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,039 How would you like to add another murdering woman to your workload? 1027 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,079 The one who killed her kids? Got it in one. 1028 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,919 You think that my father's some sort of underworld crime boss. 1029 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,799 I'm sorry. Leave your house key on my desk 1030 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,119 and let me know where to send your stuff. 1031 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,639 You are lying! Mr Stirling, you cannot attack your own witness. 1032 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,679 You showed him the file? Some bits of the night are a complete blank. 1033 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,479 Is that what you told the police? Haven't spoken to me yet. 1034 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,119 What? Sometimes they hold off questioning their lead suspect 1035 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,520 hoping hoping they'll relax and do something to incriminate themselves. 1036 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,999 ♪ Theme music 80803

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