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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:10,745 --> 00:02:11,912 I mean, the stop motion 2 00:02:11,913 --> 00:02:13,580 is still very interesting, I think. 3 00:02:13,581 --> 00:02:15,150 It's different than digital, you know? 4 00:02:15,483 --> 00:02:17,952 There's an... it has its own world a little bit. 5 00:02:17,953 --> 00:02:20,255 There's something special about stop motion. 6 00:02:22,457 --> 00:02:23,958 All the flash effects were done 7 00:02:23,959 --> 00:02:25,259 as a separate pass. 8 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:26,894 So, what we had to do is then 9 00:02:26,895 --> 00:02:28,295 you got the one frame that you want. 10 00:02:28,296 --> 00:02:29,764 Now, you have to turn the lights off, 11 00:02:30,098 --> 00:02:32,267 isolate the flash tubes, and you've got to put 12 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,902 this little strobe unit into the end of the gun. 13 00:02:34,903 --> 00:02:37,037 You got to wrap it in some orange gel, 14 00:02:37,038 --> 00:02:38,472 and you had to take some cotton, 15 00:02:38,473 --> 00:02:41,141 and sculpt the cotton into the shape of a gaseous, 16 00:02:41,142 --> 00:02:43,177 - you know, explosion. - There was always 17 00:02:43,178 --> 00:02:45,279 that kind of anticipation after you finished the shot. 18 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,780 What's it gonna look like tomorrow? 19 00:02:46,781 --> 00:02:49,216 Because something that you worked so hard on, 20 00:02:49,217 --> 00:02:50,751 there may be a glitch, or some little thing, 21 00:02:50,752 --> 00:02:52,186 or light could have burnt. 22 00:02:52,187 --> 00:02:53,954 Somebody could have bumped a little something on the set. 23 00:02:53,955 --> 00:02:56,156 You'd have to redo the whole thing the next day. 24 00:02:56,157 --> 00:02:57,637 Unfortunately, throughout the process, 25 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:00,228 the animators would occasionally get shocks. 26 00:03:02,030 --> 00:03:06,000 And I always remember, you know, you hear this... 27 00:03:06,001 --> 00:03:07,635 "Jesus Christ!" 28 00:03:09,070 --> 00:03:11,038 And for whatever reason, from my own exposure, 29 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:12,240 to me, it was kind of funny. 30 00:03:12,674 --> 00:03:14,141 I'd be cracking up like, "Oh, there goes another one." 31 00:03:14,142 --> 00:03:15,310 I know exactly how they feel. 32 00:03:21,483 --> 00:03:22,883 The fight scene, they would be flying through the air 33 00:03:22,884 --> 00:03:24,319 and through the glass doors. 34 00:03:26,154 --> 00:03:29,256 We had ramps built. So, I could not quite run up, 35 00:03:29,257 --> 00:03:32,093 but launch myself through those glass doors, 36 00:03:32,527 --> 00:03:34,729 and then another one up against the wall. 37 00:03:36,364 --> 00:03:38,198 And then the mask came off. 38 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:39,533 They'd have to screw it on, 39 00:03:39,534 --> 00:03:42,202 because I had a permanent cut across my nose, 40 00:03:42,203 --> 00:03:45,540 'cause every time I fell, it just bopped me on the nose. 41 00:03:46,808 --> 00:03:48,575 There's one little blue screen shot there, 42 00:03:48,576 --> 00:03:50,278 which is like, you know, 43 00:03:50,712 --> 00:03:52,813 a guy doing a backflip over the camera, 44 00:03:52,814 --> 00:03:56,384 which was added to one of the ED-209 shots. 45 00:03:56,718 --> 00:03:58,420 There were a few shots that I really needed 46 00:03:58,686 --> 00:04:00,588 to be a little bit smoother, so I came up 47 00:04:01,022 --> 00:04:03,892 with like a poor man's version of Go motion. 48 00:04:04,526 --> 00:04:06,694 I would just drive a wedge under the table 49 00:04:07,095 --> 00:04:09,297 that I was working on, so the table was stable, 50 00:04:09,564 --> 00:04:11,899 and I'd animate the puppet, and hit the camera, 51 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,567 and just slightly wiggle the table, 52 00:04:13,568 --> 00:04:14,835 and got a... got a motion blur. 53 00:04:14,836 --> 00:04:16,703 But I had to make sure that the table 54 00:04:16,704 --> 00:04:18,705 was wiggling the right way, so the motion blur 55 00:04:18,706 --> 00:04:20,442 was the right way, and all that stuff. 56 00:04:24,612 --> 00:04:26,747 I can't imagine 57 00:04:26,748 --> 00:04:30,951 really anyone doing a better job than Peter did in that role. 58 00:04:30,952 --> 00:04:32,419 I didn't get 59 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:36,723 that he was gonna make us care desperately for RoboCop. 60 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:39,593 I just thought he was wonderful. 61 00:04:39,594 --> 00:04:41,695 I thought his part was a lot more difficult 62 00:04:41,696 --> 00:04:42,976 than people give him credit for. 63 00:04:44,799 --> 00:04:49,136 I don't wanna act unless I am transforming something, 64 00:04:49,137 --> 00:04:50,404 and it's not called "technique". 65 00:04:50,405 --> 00:04:53,040 Technique is like, how you get to say something, 66 00:04:53,041 --> 00:04:55,509 what takes you to the personalization of it. 67 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:57,945 Some people say, "A technical actor?" No. 68 00:04:57,946 --> 00:05:00,715 You're either bullshit or you're saying something. 69 00:05:02,484 --> 00:05:04,604 But every good actor knows when he's saying something. 70 00:05:06,654 --> 00:05:07,955 We needed a shot 71 00:05:07,956 --> 00:05:09,836 that we couldn't get contact-wise any other way. 72 00:05:10,091 --> 00:05:11,993 So, we built a little RoboCop. 73 00:05:12,193 --> 00:05:15,263 I sculpted this little 8-inch replica of RoboCop. 74 00:05:16,631 --> 00:05:17,865 And it was a fairly quick shot, 75 00:05:17,866 --> 00:05:20,667 but it shows you how much work needs to be done 76 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:23,505 on even shots that... that pass in fractions of a second. 77 00:05:27,108 --> 00:05:29,477 Where he's shooting the rockets out of his arm, 78 00:05:29,744 --> 00:05:32,980 they built explosives into the set. 79 00:05:32,981 --> 00:05:36,383 And as I walked to one, and turned away, 80 00:05:36,384 --> 00:05:38,685 the rocket was on a wire, 81 00:05:38,686 --> 00:05:41,523 then it went a whole lot faster than I could get away. 82 00:05:41,823 --> 00:05:44,159 And as I was turning away, 83 00:05:44,359 --> 00:05:47,794 all the debris went through, the suit and into my arm, 84 00:05:47,795 --> 00:05:51,032 and then knocked me across the hallway. 85 00:05:51,299 --> 00:05:54,034 They had to cut the suit off. I went to the hospital. 86 00:05:54,035 --> 00:05:56,870 They released me later on that day, 87 00:05:56,871 --> 00:05:59,574 but my arm was all swollen, embedded with, you know, 88 00:05:59,841 --> 00:06:03,143 whatever the material was, and started to swell. 89 00:06:03,144 --> 00:06:04,411 Like I said, it was all practical. 90 00:06:04,412 --> 00:06:05,413 You just had to do it. 91 00:06:07,949 --> 00:06:09,149 And then a beautiful scene 92 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:11,519 that ED-209 trying to tiptoe down there, 93 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:14,054 and he can't get down. God, what... 94 00:06:14,055 --> 00:06:15,790 Is that genius or what? 95 00:06:16,191 --> 00:06:18,793 For the scene where ED-209 falls down the stairs, 96 00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:20,460 for the shots where ED-209's looking 97 00:06:20,562 --> 00:06:21,895 at his feet, trying to figure out 98 00:06:21,896 --> 00:06:23,964 how to stay with the placement and stuff, 99 00:06:23,965 --> 00:06:25,899 those were shot on an actual miniature. 100 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:27,334 And that was really not very big. 101 00:06:27,335 --> 00:06:29,036 It was, you know, kind of a duplicate 102 00:06:29,037 --> 00:06:32,139 of a location we found out in Dallas, Texas, there. 103 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:33,373 So, went out there, took measurements, 104 00:06:33,374 --> 00:06:34,375 took photographs. 105 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:37,411 For him tumbling down the stairs, 106 00:06:37,412 --> 00:06:39,146 we got the thing set up, and started running 107 00:06:39,147 --> 00:06:40,380 at as high a frame rate 108 00:06:40,381 --> 00:06:42,516 as we could get out of these Mitchell cameras. 109 00:06:42,517 --> 00:06:44,818 And basically, Phil would pop the thing, 110 00:06:44,819 --> 00:06:46,387 the robot would tumble down the stairs. 111 00:06:46,621 --> 00:06:48,088 I'm off camera, below the camera, 112 00:06:48,089 --> 00:06:49,389 trying to catch it, 113 00:06:49,390 --> 00:06:51,625 because if it hits the ground, I've gotta fix it. 114 00:06:51,626 --> 00:06:53,227 Once he hits the bottom of the stairs, 115 00:06:53,228 --> 00:06:54,748 then we're back to a photographic plate 116 00:06:55,063 --> 00:06:56,897 where we've got a shot of RoboCop, you know, 117 00:06:56,898 --> 00:06:58,031 kind of in the background, 118 00:06:58,032 --> 00:07:00,301 and ED-209 in the foreground, writhing about. 119 00:07:00,602 --> 00:07:01,602 John Davidson told me 120 00:07:01,769 --> 00:07:04,172 that they used the sounds of pigs being slaughtered 121 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:08,776 for the writhing and agony moment there... 122 00:07:10,311 --> 00:07:11,846 which was pretty effective. 123 00:07:19,254 --> 00:07:22,423 And then we shot the scene in the garage, fire at will. 124 00:07:22,657 --> 00:07:24,025 Prepare to fire. 125 00:07:25,326 --> 00:07:27,461 That was just a dynamic, wonderful scene. 126 00:07:27,462 --> 00:07:29,863 The thing is, I've got 75 background actors 127 00:07:29,864 --> 00:07:32,267 behind me with all kinds of weapons. 128 00:07:32,767 --> 00:07:33,927 We have orders to destroy it. 129 00:07:34,135 --> 00:07:36,804 Everybody in Texas does not know how to handle a weapon. 130 00:07:38,139 --> 00:07:39,240 Fire at will! 131 00:07:41,776 --> 00:07:43,536 Miguel Ferrer and I became very good friends. 132 00:07:43,578 --> 00:07:45,913 And we would play SWAT officers. 133 00:07:47,315 --> 00:07:49,751 So, we would be up all night doing that kind of stuff. 134 00:07:52,754 --> 00:07:55,055 We ran around Dallas at night, and drank too much, 135 00:07:55,056 --> 00:07:56,157 and did crazy things. 136 00:07:56,357 --> 00:07:58,826 And so, that was fun of what I remember of it. 137 00:08:00,461 --> 00:08:01,762 The shootout stuff, 138 00:08:01,763 --> 00:08:03,597 I mean, it says that in the script, 139 00:08:03,598 --> 00:08:06,767 but I envisioned that fully, with all the bullets 140 00:08:06,768 --> 00:08:08,345 falling on the ground, and all that stuff, 141 00:08:08,369 --> 00:08:10,070 that's... that's all mine. 142 00:08:10,071 --> 00:08:12,240 I mean, listen, at that time, people are paying 143 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,076 $5 a ticket, right? You... you got to give them 144 00:08:15,443 --> 00:08:16,683 their 5 bucks' worth, you know? 145 00:08:16,911 --> 00:08:18,391 It's like, "Fuck, push that envelope." 146 00:08:20,448 --> 00:08:21,648 We had about five or six 147 00:08:21,649 --> 00:08:24,351 RoboCop suits in different states of disrepair. 148 00:08:24,352 --> 00:08:26,386 You know, some were the battle-damaged suits. 149 00:08:26,387 --> 00:08:29,257 We spent a couple of days just tearing those suits up, 150 00:08:29,457 --> 00:08:32,092 took dremel suits to 'em, paintbrushes, 151 00:08:32,093 --> 00:08:35,329 and just really wore those things out. 152 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:38,299 They shot some kind of compound into the chest plate, 153 00:08:38,666 --> 00:08:39,867 and it would create sparks. 154 00:08:41,302 --> 00:08:43,036 They're called, "Zerk guns". 155 00:08:43,037 --> 00:08:45,340 They're like paintball guns, and you know, 156 00:08:45,573 --> 00:08:47,207 whenever they hit the hand, you know, 157 00:08:47,208 --> 00:08:49,577 it's like they're standing about 10 feet away, 158 00:08:49,944 --> 00:08:52,180 and you just hope that they're a pretty good shot. 159 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:54,181 We pumped in some fluid 160 00:08:54,182 --> 00:08:57,651 oozing out of the chest plate, like chemical fluid, 161 00:08:57,652 --> 00:08:59,386 and some of the life-support stuff 162 00:08:59,387 --> 00:09:01,888 that Robo has in his making. 163 00:09:01,889 --> 00:09:04,057 Halt it! 164 00:09:04,058 --> 00:09:05,459 I had Randy Moore next to me, 165 00:09:05,460 --> 00:09:08,829 fortunately, because he had an AUG, 166 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:11,064 and Verhoeven said, "What I want you to do is 167 00:09:11,065 --> 00:09:14,234 I want you to hold that up next to Michael's face." 168 00:09:14,235 --> 00:09:15,502 And he said, "We can do that, 169 00:09:15,503 --> 00:09:17,504 but you're only gonna get one take." 170 00:09:17,505 --> 00:09:18,605 "Why is that?" "'Cause," he said, 171 00:09:18,606 --> 00:09:20,140 "It'll probably take the skin off his face." 172 00:09:20,141 --> 00:09:21,541 "Oh, no, no, no, no. Don't do that." 173 00:09:23,745 --> 00:09:25,445 The way Peter is moving 174 00:09:25,446 --> 00:09:28,582 and the way he's kind of falling back, 175 00:09:28,583 --> 00:09:31,151 it's not real, but it looks beautiful in a way 176 00:09:31,152 --> 00:09:32,853 that looks naturalistic, but it's not. 177 00:09:32,854 --> 00:09:35,255 It's all very planned out. It's very precise. 178 00:09:35,256 --> 00:09:38,926 That's actually me falling over the side of those rails. 179 00:09:39,394 --> 00:09:41,094 There was no pads down there. 180 00:09:41,095 --> 00:09:45,065 I actually went to the ground each time, and probably did it... 181 00:09:45,066 --> 00:09:46,346 I don't know, probably 10 times. 182 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:50,571 I... I still hurt because of that. 183 00:09:53,474 --> 00:09:55,576 Both of the female characters, 184 00:09:56,077 --> 00:09:58,578 they're two different female archetypes. 185 00:09:58,579 --> 00:10:01,949 One is the domestic goddess, the homemaker, the wife, 186 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:05,786 and the other one is more the independent woman who 187 00:10:05,787 --> 00:10:07,287 - doesn't have any children... - Murphy! 188 00:10:07,288 --> 00:10:08,622 Who is living in the man's world. 189 00:10:08,623 --> 00:10:10,223 - Murphy, it's me. - And I think 190 00:10:10,224 --> 00:10:13,226 that's one of the things that makes the movie work 191 00:10:13,227 --> 00:10:15,495 is because it is a guy's film, and they've got 192 00:10:15,496 --> 00:10:17,364 all this masculine energy, 193 00:10:17,365 --> 00:10:20,435 but these two women rounds out the humanity. 194 00:10:25,673 --> 00:10:26,840 I came to be involved 195 00:10:26,841 --> 00:10:29,109 in the project, because my husband, 196 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:33,280 Kurtwood Smith, was cast as Clarence Boddicker. 197 00:10:33,281 --> 00:10:35,283 Hiya, Barbara. 198 00:10:35,483 --> 00:10:38,119 He said, "Well, I think I'll ask 'em if they would read you," 199 00:10:38,419 --> 00:10:39,654 and that's how I got involved. 200 00:10:39,854 --> 00:10:42,289 And the part, of course, was the secretary. 201 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:44,224 We kind of like, played around with it a little bit. 202 00:10:44,225 --> 00:10:46,126 Listen. I'm here to see Dick Jones. 203 00:10:46,127 --> 00:10:47,961 You know, put the chewing gum on her desk. 204 00:10:47,962 --> 00:10:50,797 And when I'm done, I've got some free time. 205 00:10:50,798 --> 00:10:53,968 Maybe you could fit me in. 206 00:10:54,268 --> 00:10:57,237 But it was fun. We had a real good time. 207 00:10:57,238 --> 00:10:59,072 He's expecting you, Mr. Boddicker. 208 00:10:59,073 --> 00:11:04,678 He would just have this look of evil, gleeful evil, 209 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,648 that is really not a part of who Kurtwood is, 210 00:11:08,649 --> 00:11:11,017 or not... not a part that I've ever seen. 211 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:13,720 Hey, Dickie boy. How's tricks? 212 00:11:13,721 --> 00:11:15,989 That thing is still alive. 213 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:18,124 I spent a lot of time trying 214 00:11:18,125 --> 00:11:21,161 to get at the essence of acting, and it's... 215 00:11:21,162 --> 00:11:23,897 It's a really complex thing. 216 00:11:23,898 --> 00:11:25,966 He's a cyborg, you idiot! 217 00:11:25,967 --> 00:11:29,737 How technical and simple it has to be at once. 218 00:11:30,004 --> 00:11:32,138 His memory is admissible as evidence. 219 00:11:32,139 --> 00:11:34,674 Yeah. The technical stuff has to come through, 220 00:11:34,675 --> 00:11:38,912 and if it ever shows for even an instant, then... 221 00:11:38,913 --> 00:11:41,882 Then our bullshit senses say, "Uh-uh." 222 00:11:41,883 --> 00:11:43,917 You involved me! 223 00:11:43,918 --> 00:11:44,985 It's important to me 224 00:11:44,986 --> 00:11:48,188 that Clarence works with Dick Jones. 225 00:11:48,189 --> 00:11:49,891 He doesn't... he's not a toady, you know? 226 00:11:50,124 --> 00:11:52,559 Well, the scene had been rewritten. 227 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,997 It was not what Paul and I had talked about, basically, 228 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:57,464 and that it had become pretty much 229 00:11:57,465 --> 00:11:59,299 of a yes-or-no-sir scene. 230 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:00,867 Well, listen, Chief. 231 00:12:00,868 --> 00:12:02,702 "I said, Paul, this is exactly 232 00:12:02,703 --> 00:12:04,204 what we talked about at breakfast 233 00:12:04,205 --> 00:12:06,273 that I didn't want to happen, you know?" 234 00:12:06,274 --> 00:12:07,908 He said, "Oh, you're just trying to make the scene 235 00:12:07,909 --> 00:12:09,910 all about you," and kind of stomped off. 236 00:12:09,911 --> 00:12:12,946 And I said to Jon Davison... 237 00:12:12,947 --> 00:12:15,148 Jon understood what I was talking about, 238 00:12:15,149 --> 00:12:17,217 and you know, it's actually better scene for Ronny, 239 00:12:17,218 --> 00:12:19,553 because it went from being a yes-or-no-sir scene 240 00:12:19,554 --> 00:12:22,323 into one where Dick Jones is manipulating me. 241 00:12:22,723 --> 00:12:26,927 One man could control it all, Clarence. 242 00:12:26,928 --> 00:12:30,363 They're the two villains that everybody loves to hate, 243 00:12:30,364 --> 00:12:34,168 and... and he got such a joy out of calling me, "Dick." 244 00:12:34,368 --> 00:12:36,871 Take a look at my face, Dick. 245 00:12:40,374 --> 00:12:42,376 And Dick Jones didn't think that was funny. 246 00:12:43,644 --> 00:12:45,346 You got access to military weaponry? 247 00:12:46,948 --> 00:12:48,549 We practically are the military. 248 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:53,553 There is this beautiful scene 249 00:12:53,554 --> 00:12:55,822 when he sits there in this steel factory. 250 00:12:55,823 --> 00:12:57,557 I guess we're on strike. 251 00:12:57,558 --> 00:12:59,460 I wasn't sure what you needed. 252 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,829 What you would call a personal human scene. 253 00:13:02,830 --> 00:13:04,097 You asked for this? 254 00:13:04,098 --> 00:13:06,300 I think the scene is very beautiful. 255 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:10,737 The helmet wouldn't fit on his head, you know, 256 00:13:10,738 --> 00:13:12,282 with the prosthetic 'cause it was just... 257 00:13:12,306 --> 00:13:13,406 Everything was too big. 258 00:13:13,407 --> 00:13:15,408 So, Paul had that worked out 259 00:13:15,409 --> 00:13:16,820 where you didn't have to actually see him 260 00:13:16,844 --> 00:13:18,311 lifting it off his head. 261 00:13:18,312 --> 00:13:20,580 You may not like what you're going to see. 262 00:13:20,581 --> 00:13:23,117 But now, he's like, "Well, what about all this black stuff, 263 00:13:23,384 --> 00:13:25,018 the chin strap, the neck piece?" 264 00:13:25,019 --> 00:13:26,953 It's like, just suddenly, that's gonna be gone 265 00:13:26,954 --> 00:13:28,623 and we were gonna take a piece and like, 266 00:13:28,923 --> 00:13:30,723 put some cuts in it to where he could be like, 267 00:13:31,125 --> 00:13:32,903 lifting it off his head, and Paul's just like, 268 00:13:32,927 --> 00:13:34,328 "Eh, nobody's ever gonna notice." 269 00:13:35,963 --> 00:13:37,797 - Ta-da! - You know, all of a sudden, 270 00:13:37,798 --> 00:13:40,034 like this thing just vanishes. 271 00:13:40,501 --> 00:13:42,135 And I was like, "How could they not notice? 272 00:13:42,136 --> 00:13:43,837 It's there, then it's not there." 273 00:13:43,838 --> 00:13:45,105 But they don't. 274 00:13:45,106 --> 00:13:46,974 It's you know, you're so into the scene. 275 00:13:49,577 --> 00:13:52,178 I remember the first makeup test that we did. 276 00:13:52,179 --> 00:13:56,683 We shot under green neon light. It looked awful. 277 00:13:56,684 --> 00:14:00,021 Paul was confident that he could make it look good 278 00:14:00,321 --> 00:14:02,022 with controlled lighting, but he wanted to see it 279 00:14:02,023 --> 00:14:04,290 under its worst circumstances. 280 00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:06,192 So, we're screening the test footage. 281 00:14:06,193 --> 00:14:08,194 Rob's sitting there going, "Oh, that looks like crap. 282 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:10,430 No, you can't shoot it that way. That looks bad." 283 00:14:10,431 --> 00:14:12,065 And I was like devastated, 284 00:14:12,066 --> 00:14:15,368 'cause this just looks like dead flesh. 285 00:14:15,369 --> 00:14:17,370 And then Rob just gets up and walks out. 286 00:14:17,371 --> 00:14:19,472 I remember Paul is out there, and they're almost 287 00:14:19,473 --> 00:14:23,076 getting into like, a physical altercation. 288 00:14:23,077 --> 00:14:27,313 And Jon's there, trying to calm Verhoeven down. 289 00:14:27,314 --> 00:14:31,085 And Rob's over Jon's back just mocking Verhoeven. 290 00:14:33,187 --> 00:14:34,722 Yeah. That kind of thing. 291 00:14:35,022 --> 00:14:37,857 I mean, a very, very genius guy, Rob Bottin. 292 00:14:37,858 --> 00:14:40,895 Difficult guy, but top, top. 293 00:14:43,397 --> 00:14:44,931 He built a forefront 294 00:14:44,932 --> 00:14:47,068 that looked like part of the head was missing. 295 00:14:47,301 --> 00:14:49,035 So, from the side, you would see it 296 00:14:49,036 --> 00:14:52,539 going like this, yeah, bop, which is not possible, 297 00:14:52,540 --> 00:14:54,041 and it's like you're cutting the head. 298 00:14:54,475 --> 00:14:58,678 The final makeup was not an easy one to pull off. 299 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:02,782 It was all in one piece. There was no margin for error. 300 00:15:02,783 --> 00:15:05,752 And the face took six and a half hours. 301 00:15:05,753 --> 00:15:07,388 Stephan Dupuis, genius. 302 00:15:07,855 --> 00:15:09,222 Three hours of putting that thing on, 303 00:15:09,223 --> 00:15:11,091 and three and a half hours of making it up. 304 00:15:11,092 --> 00:15:14,327 And I would go into zen mode, zen meditation mode. 305 00:15:14,328 --> 00:15:15,762 There was a very particular way 306 00:15:15,763 --> 00:15:20,233 of it being applied, as opposed to start from the edge out. 307 00:15:20,234 --> 00:15:23,536 It had to be started like in the middle of the appliance, 308 00:15:23,537 --> 00:15:25,939 adjusted to fit the prongs 309 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:28,408 to the back of the fiberglass skull, 310 00:15:28,409 --> 00:15:32,579 and then work that way, and then work this way 311 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:35,281 so that it would like, fit and blend, 312 00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:38,151 and uh, there was no kink, 313 00:15:38,152 --> 00:15:39,552 because you couldn't hide anything. 314 00:15:39,553 --> 00:15:42,555 Then, you know, if there was a kink somewhere, 315 00:15:42,556 --> 00:15:44,824 it would like, show up on the screen like big time. 316 00:15:44,825 --> 00:15:46,727 It was 21 days for that face. 317 00:15:47,094 --> 00:15:50,730 I was going to put that face on when the crew would come in 318 00:15:50,731 --> 00:15:52,900 from dinner at 1:30 in the morning. 319 00:15:55,002 --> 00:15:56,603 And then I got to put on a suit. 320 00:15:56,604 --> 00:15:58,772 So, that's like, an eight-and-a-half-hour day 321 00:15:58,773 --> 00:16:01,442 before I've even turned to camera, man. 322 00:16:01,642 --> 00:16:03,843 It was two and a half hours to take it off, 323 00:16:03,844 --> 00:16:04,844 'cause they had to pull it off, 324 00:16:04,845 --> 00:16:06,746 otherwise, my face looked like a zit. 325 00:16:06,747 --> 00:16:09,082 You can't just rip that stuff off. 326 00:16:09,083 --> 00:16:10,750 You know, RoboCop gets shot in the head, 327 00:16:10,751 --> 00:16:13,486 so I had to carry that bullet hole over into the makeup 328 00:16:13,487 --> 00:16:15,321 that he wears without his helmet. 329 00:16:15,322 --> 00:16:16,756 I remember thinking, you know, "God, when I was a kid, 330 00:16:16,757 --> 00:16:18,258 I took apart the telephone once, 331 00:16:18,259 --> 00:16:20,794 and there's that little disc with the dots in it, 332 00:16:20,795 --> 00:16:22,515 and he'll just have one of those for an ear, 333 00:16:22,596 --> 00:16:24,164 you know, where his ear should be." 334 00:16:24,165 --> 00:16:25,799 His organics need to be supported. 335 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,966 So, I thought there should be some, 336 00:16:26,967 --> 00:16:28,201 probably tubes, coming out, 337 00:16:28,202 --> 00:16:29,970 maybe feeding into the skin, you know? 338 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:34,108 When I take off the helmet, 339 00:16:34,508 --> 00:16:37,443 if you'll notice, the voice softens. 340 00:16:37,444 --> 00:16:39,680 Murphy had a wife and son. What happened to them? 341 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:41,415 It was a small adjustment. 342 00:16:41,816 --> 00:16:44,517 It's not that octave. It's this octave. 343 00:16:44,518 --> 00:16:46,019 Where did they go? 344 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:49,189 The most important line in RoboCop is this: 345 00:16:49,190 --> 00:16:53,226 "I can feel them, but I can't remember them." 346 00:16:53,227 --> 00:16:57,130 I can feel them, but I can't remember them. 347 00:16:57,131 --> 00:17:00,167 And that's the saddest, most excruciating line in it. 348 00:17:00,434 --> 00:17:02,203 And it cuts to this wide, 349 00:17:02,536 --> 00:17:06,072 and here's this steel mill that is decrepit. 350 00:17:06,073 --> 00:17:10,176 It was once shiny and beautiful, and then here's RoboCop... 351 00:17:10,177 --> 00:17:11,477 Leave me alone. 352 00:17:11,478 --> 00:17:12,678 Who was once a shiny thing, 353 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,715 and he's all beat up and shot up. 354 00:17:15,716 --> 00:17:19,519 That's what it is to be alive, is who we love, our memories. 355 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,387 The bewildering gift 356 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:23,791 of this film is loss and rebirth. 357 00:17:25,492 --> 00:17:29,195 But the travesty and the drama, 358 00:17:29,196 --> 00:17:31,831 and essentially, the tragedy of it, 359 00:17:31,832 --> 00:17:36,003 he'll never get it back. 'Cause it's gone. 360 00:17:49,516 --> 00:17:52,819 There was an area called "Deep Elm" down in Dallas. 361 00:17:52,820 --> 00:17:54,654 It was sort of like an art district. 362 00:17:54,655 --> 00:17:56,222 The art department built 363 00:17:56,223 --> 00:17:58,859 all these shops with empty windows 364 00:17:59,293 --> 00:18:01,594 so that you could see the lights and everything. 365 00:18:01,595 --> 00:18:03,430 It was nice, very nicely done. 366 00:18:08,702 --> 00:18:10,069 There was something about the grittiness of that 367 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:11,571 that really worked well. 368 00:18:11,572 --> 00:18:13,773 And you had the skyline in the background. 369 00:18:13,774 --> 00:18:15,675 So, there were things that were practical. 370 00:18:15,676 --> 00:18:18,044 It was a bigger production than Dallas was used to, 371 00:18:18,045 --> 00:18:21,381 which made everybody work harder, made for long hours. 372 00:18:21,382 --> 00:18:23,750 I mean, one time, I did four 20-hour days. 373 00:18:23,751 --> 00:18:25,319 I mean, that's the kind of job it was. 374 00:18:25,686 --> 00:18:27,321 And the discomfort of it all, 375 00:18:27,554 --> 00:18:30,223 and the violence of it all, actually created 376 00:18:30,224 --> 00:18:32,292 a lot of what you see on screen, 377 00:18:32,293 --> 00:18:33,928 and a lot of it's really authentic. 378 00:18:34,228 --> 00:18:35,261 We hung out, and we talked, 379 00:18:35,262 --> 00:18:37,430 and we went, and we drank together. 380 00:18:37,431 --> 00:18:39,333 We just kind of played off of each other. 381 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:41,167 It was like everybody kind of understood 382 00:18:41,168 --> 00:18:43,436 where they were coming from as a character, 383 00:18:43,437 --> 00:18:47,006 and we just threw it all in, and it... it... it mixed up well. 384 00:18:47,007 --> 00:18:47,975 Hey, Emil. 385 00:18:47,976 --> 00:18:50,176 - Hey. - How's the Gray Bar Hotel? 386 00:18:50,177 --> 00:18:53,546 Not bad. I got to keep the shirt. Nobody popped my cherry. 387 00:18:53,547 --> 00:18:55,448 Most of them went above 388 00:18:55,449 --> 00:18:58,084 and beyond the call of duty with their roles, 389 00:18:58,085 --> 00:19:02,989 and really made them come to life with unique characters 390 00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:04,891 rather than just the bad guy. 391 00:19:04,892 --> 00:19:06,092 Hey! 392 00:19:06,093 --> 00:19:08,261 First, they let me out of jail for free, 393 00:19:08,262 --> 00:19:11,164 then look what I found in the prison parking lot. 394 00:19:11,165 --> 00:19:14,033 A brand-new 6,000 SUX, 395 00:19:14,034 --> 00:19:15,002 still got the factory sticker on it. 396 00:19:15,003 --> 00:19:16,269 Hey, Clarence! 397 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:18,305 Joey's got a car just like yours, man. 398 00:19:20,207 --> 00:19:22,142 What do you think, Clarence, huh? Huh? 399 00:19:24,345 --> 00:19:26,479 I always saw this character 400 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,217 and kind of the gang in general as guys that were having fun. 401 00:19:32,987 --> 00:19:34,487 I had had some experience 402 00:19:34,488 --> 00:19:39,158 with the... the Barrett M82, .50 caliber, semi-automatic, 403 00:19:39,159 --> 00:19:41,861 and so, I showed it to 'em. They liked it. 404 00:19:41,862 --> 00:19:45,532 Whoa! A new toy! Can I play? 405 00:19:45,766 --> 00:19:47,300 We purchased three of 'em. 406 00:19:47,301 --> 00:19:48,301 So, we had four total. 407 00:19:48,635 --> 00:19:51,004 Take one! 408 00:19:51,005 --> 00:19:52,005 Ooh, shit! 409 00:19:52,006 --> 00:19:53,840 - Nice car, Joe! - Let me try it, fuck! 410 00:19:53,841 --> 00:19:55,608 - Let me try it! - Hey, watch your mouth. 411 00:19:55,609 --> 00:19:57,543 Cobra assault cannon. 412 00:19:57,544 --> 00:20:00,213 State-of-the-art, bang, bang! 413 00:20:00,214 --> 00:20:03,850 They're like 50-caliber machine guns that you mount on boats. 414 00:20:03,851 --> 00:20:05,485 That's what they mainly use them for. 415 00:20:05,486 --> 00:20:07,553 And they were pretty hefty. 416 00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:09,222 I think there were probably about, you know, 417 00:20:09,223 --> 00:20:10,790 40 or 50 pounds. 418 00:20:10,791 --> 00:20:12,392 We had a dummy, of course. 419 00:20:12,393 --> 00:20:15,261 But we had to have the real ones when we fired them. 420 00:20:15,262 --> 00:20:16,263 Clarence, come on! 421 00:20:18,399 --> 00:20:20,066 The Cobra assault cannons, 422 00:20:20,067 --> 00:20:22,101 initially, we were gonna put a camera 423 00:20:22,102 --> 00:20:23,436 where it appears to be an eyepiece 424 00:20:23,437 --> 00:20:25,171 that was gonna be forward, 425 00:20:25,172 --> 00:20:28,641 and the back end of the scope was going to be a screen. 426 00:20:28,642 --> 00:20:32,712 There wasn't the budget to build four or five working scopes, 427 00:20:32,713 --> 00:20:34,547 and so, it was just a big block 428 00:20:34,548 --> 00:20:36,416 with all the fins and everything on it. 429 00:20:36,417 --> 00:20:38,451 In terms of preparing to shoot, 430 00:20:38,452 --> 00:20:41,587 they said, "Here. Okay, hold it this way. 431 00:20:41,588 --> 00:20:43,389 Okay, pull the trigger." 432 00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:44,390 Whoo! 433 00:20:44,391 --> 00:20:46,460 Yeah! 434 00:20:48,062 --> 00:20:50,563 They was like, "No. We didn't have a lot of prep." 435 00:20:50,564 --> 00:20:53,266 I just remember trying to get them in the car. 436 00:20:53,267 --> 00:20:55,107 Fired, then I get in the car, and I was like... 437 00:20:57,304 --> 00:20:58,671 Parker. 438 00:20:58,672 --> 00:21:01,207 Take it out. And action! 439 00:21:01,208 --> 00:21:03,911 The thing I get most quoted for is, "I like it." 440 00:21:05,779 --> 00:21:08,381 - Whoo! - I like it! 441 00:21:08,382 --> 00:21:09,715 And most people 442 00:21:09,716 --> 00:21:11,718 will come up to me, and say, "Oh, I like it!" 443 00:21:12,886 --> 00:21:14,221 So, I say, "That'll be $5." 444 00:21:14,555 --> 00:21:16,222 I like it! 445 00:21:16,223 --> 00:21:18,091 And that line was not my invention. 446 00:21:18,092 --> 00:21:19,492 That actually was scripted. 447 00:21:19,493 --> 00:21:21,594 And I think it was the boom operator, 448 00:21:21,595 --> 00:21:22,629 if I remember right. 449 00:21:23,030 --> 00:21:24,697 And he talked about it reminding him 450 00:21:24,698 --> 00:21:26,733 of a Chevy Chase film where he says, 451 00:21:26,967 --> 00:21:30,471 "I like it" in some crazy way, which I actually hadn't seen. 452 00:21:33,273 --> 00:21:34,508 I like it! 453 00:21:35,042 --> 00:21:36,610 Just his saying that triggered 454 00:21:36,877 --> 00:21:39,579 this idea in me, and that's why the reading 455 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:40,781 came out the way that it did. 456 00:21:41,081 --> 00:21:42,883 I like it! 457 00:21:43,083 --> 00:21:44,550 Originally, there was a scene 458 00:21:44,551 --> 00:21:47,053 where Clarence's gang go to a pet shop, 459 00:21:47,054 --> 00:21:49,089 and there's a little puppy in a window. 460 00:21:49,456 --> 00:21:51,524 And they have those guns, and they point it, 461 00:21:51,525 --> 00:21:53,159 and one of them goes, "Nah." 462 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,294 And they turn around, and they start to walk off. 463 00:21:55,295 --> 00:21:56,996 But then they turn back, and they kill the puppy, 464 00:21:56,997 --> 00:21:59,465 and they blow up the pet store. 465 00:21:59,466 --> 00:22:02,602 Now, if you know anything about film taboos at that time, 466 00:22:02,603 --> 00:22:04,537 you were never supposed to kill a pet. 467 00:22:04,538 --> 00:22:06,506 Wow! 468 00:22:06,507 --> 00:22:07,540 I like it! 469 00:22:07,541 --> 00:22:09,009 "I like it!" Boom! 470 00:22:12,479 --> 00:22:13,646 It was a Friday night. 471 00:22:13,647 --> 00:22:15,948 They shot all night, and I had a hot date. 472 00:22:15,949 --> 00:22:17,617 She wanted to go to the set. 473 00:22:17,618 --> 00:22:20,654 And man, they had done something to that street. 474 00:22:20,921 --> 00:22:22,622 And that was one of the scenes where, you know, 475 00:22:22,623 --> 00:22:23,990 we had a big fight 476 00:22:23,991 --> 00:22:25,625 in order to make sure the actors didn't get too close. 477 00:22:25,626 --> 00:22:27,627 And then Paul would say, "Okay, get a little closer. 478 00:22:27,628 --> 00:22:28,562 Actors, would you get a little closer? 479 00:22:28,563 --> 00:22:29,629 Get a little closer?" 480 00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:31,364 Of course, there was a lot of stunts. 481 00:22:31,365 --> 00:22:32,365 Yeah! 482 00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:35,502 And there was a lot of explosions. 483 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:39,773 And some of the explosions were extraordinary enough. 484 00:22:42,709 --> 00:22:45,044 There's an explosion, basically, when they have these new guns, 485 00:22:45,045 --> 00:22:46,412 and they shoot in the street. 486 00:22:46,413 --> 00:22:49,482 And I remember that the actors were nearly blown away. 487 00:22:49,483 --> 00:22:51,317 Hey, make a camera mark. 488 00:22:51,318 --> 00:22:52,685 And background. 489 00:22:52,686 --> 00:22:54,387 Background action. 490 00:22:54,388 --> 00:22:56,022 Now, it's a real street, right, that they're shooting on. 491 00:22:56,023 --> 00:22:58,424 So, they buy out one side of it, they load it up, 492 00:22:58,425 --> 00:22:59,826 'cause they're gonna blow it up. 493 00:23:00,227 --> 00:23:02,962 On the other side, are stores and people living above it. 494 00:23:02,963 --> 00:23:05,731 So, the AD comes out with a bullhorn, right? 495 00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:07,877 And he says that the people that are in their apartments, 496 00:23:07,901 --> 00:23:10,970 he says, "Please step back from the windows." 497 00:23:10,971 --> 00:23:13,406 "Go back. You're not safe there. Go back." 498 00:23:13,407 --> 00:23:15,141 "These are live charges. 499 00:23:15,142 --> 00:23:17,510 Please step back from the windows. 500 00:23:17,511 --> 00:23:20,146 Actors, stand right here." 501 00:23:20,147 --> 00:23:22,515 So, we were just like, "Dude." 502 00:23:22,516 --> 00:23:23,516 Shit. 503 00:23:23,717 --> 00:23:25,251 And I looked at Kurtwood, 504 00:23:25,252 --> 00:23:27,820 thinking, "If they're not safe, what are we doing right here?" 505 00:23:27,821 --> 00:23:30,021 But we hear, "Roll, and action." And I pull the trigger. 506 00:23:31,692 --> 00:23:34,427 And all I remember is a wall of flame 507 00:23:34,428 --> 00:23:35,696 coming straight at me. 508 00:23:38,165 --> 00:23:39,632 And we were all like... 509 00:23:39,633 --> 00:23:40,701 Heads up, you guys! 510 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:46,239 You can see even the actors doing this, you know? 511 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,542 Because it was much bigger than everybody thought. 512 00:23:51,478 --> 00:23:52,579 I turned around, 513 00:23:53,013 --> 00:23:54,881 and Kurtwood Smith's jacket is smoking. 514 00:23:55,215 --> 00:23:56,916 We were just close enough 515 00:23:56,917 --> 00:23:59,218 to feel some of the little pieces of glass 516 00:23:59,219 --> 00:24:01,722 hit us on the side of the face, a little bit, little... 517 00:24:02,089 --> 00:24:04,190 Tiny little slivers. 518 00:24:04,191 --> 00:24:06,926 And we had a couple of blood spots on our face. 519 00:24:06,927 --> 00:24:09,863 And that was a $500-bump, as I recall. 520 00:24:10,097 --> 00:24:13,399 They actually ended up paying us stunt pay for that. 521 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,567 - Whoo! - Go, go, go, go, go! 522 00:24:14,568 --> 00:24:16,303 Hey, the guns are trick, Clarence. 523 00:24:18,772 --> 00:24:20,641 And stuff is blowing up and blowing up. 524 00:24:20,941 --> 00:24:23,409 I said to myself, "I need to sit back." 525 00:24:23,410 --> 00:24:25,170 And I sat back, and a piece of glass comes... 526 00:24:26,146 --> 00:24:28,080 straight through the truck. 527 00:24:28,081 --> 00:24:31,117 I was like, "Dude, this is, like, way too real." 528 00:24:31,118 --> 00:24:32,351 My favorite thing about the whole thing 529 00:24:32,352 --> 00:24:34,120 was that Paul afterwards came up to me, 530 00:24:34,121 --> 00:24:37,224 and he said, "You know, normally, I don't ask an actor 531 00:24:37,424 --> 00:24:39,458 to do something that I won't do myself, 532 00:24:39,459 --> 00:24:42,128 but this time, I think I don't do it." 533 00:24:42,129 --> 00:24:43,629 No. 534 00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:46,832 That night, when we blew up that street completely, 535 00:24:46,833 --> 00:24:50,102 was one of the most fun nights I've ever had in my career. 536 00:24:50,103 --> 00:24:52,172 But charity work ain't your style, man. 537 00:24:54,675 --> 00:24:57,343 What's the real deal behind this turkey shoot? 538 00:24:57,344 --> 00:24:59,078 Delta City, man. 539 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,648 I figure it's the future of organized crime. 540 00:25:03,717 --> 00:25:06,787 Good business is where you find it. 541 00:25:08,322 --> 00:25:10,856 Goin' to the steel yard, round 'em up. 542 00:25:10,857 --> 00:25:13,092 - All right. Cut the whole street. - We're movin' out! 543 00:25:13,093 --> 00:25:14,828 Come on, Emil, get your ass in the truck! 544 00:25:15,095 --> 00:25:17,963 I could tell from the dailies that the action was working. 545 00:25:17,964 --> 00:25:19,833 You know, the action was really working. 546 00:25:24,304 --> 00:25:26,205 There was a sequence in the third act 547 00:25:26,206 --> 00:25:29,575 where there was a car chase on the way to the steel mill. 548 00:25:29,576 --> 00:25:32,478 And when we were in Dallas, it was on the schedule. 549 00:25:32,479 --> 00:25:34,681 I looked at that one day, and thought, 550 00:25:35,115 --> 00:25:36,115 "We don't really need this." 551 00:25:36,116 --> 00:25:37,216 We could just go from here to here. 552 00:25:37,217 --> 00:25:38,584 And so, I brought it up in a production meeting, 553 00:25:38,585 --> 00:25:39,652 and they were all like, "Fuck." 554 00:25:39,653 --> 00:25:41,554 And Paul went, "Yeah, yeah, we don't." 555 00:25:41,555 --> 00:25:42,555 'Cause that was like, 556 00:25:42,556 --> 00:25:44,023 a half a day or a day of shooting. 557 00:25:44,024 --> 00:25:45,325 And it's not saving money. 558 00:25:45,659 --> 00:25:48,060 It's more like saving the audience time. 559 00:25:48,061 --> 00:25:50,496 So, you know, I expected them to be really happy with me 560 00:25:50,497 --> 00:25:51,597 for doing that, but they weren't. 561 00:25:51,598 --> 00:25:53,700 They just were like, "Yeah, go away." So... 562 00:25:57,137 --> 00:25:58,971 I remember at the hotel, 563 00:25:58,972 --> 00:26:02,041 going out with the Robo team with Rob and drinking a lot 564 00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:03,142 with Peter Weller, 565 00:26:03,143 --> 00:26:05,378 and then Peter and him would get into it. 566 00:26:05,379 --> 00:26:07,880 And they were like fucking around with each other 567 00:26:07,881 --> 00:26:10,316 all the time, you know? 568 00:26:10,317 --> 00:26:11,784 Rob's a sweet guy. 569 00:26:11,785 --> 00:26:13,519 Maybe... maybe he doesn't like me. 570 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,355 I don't know. I... I mean... 571 00:26:15,689 --> 00:26:16,822 They got into it like, 572 00:26:16,823 --> 00:26:18,624 "I'm making more money than you are," 573 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:20,794 and so on and so forth. 574 00:26:21,194 --> 00:26:22,895 I called Rob, and apologized to him. 575 00:26:22,896 --> 00:26:25,798 And I apologized to him again for any kind of wound 576 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,634 that he might have suffered from my insolent mouth talking 577 00:26:28,635 --> 00:26:30,715 about whatever the difficulties of movie-making were. 578 00:26:30,871 --> 00:26:32,438 Because he was nothing more than inventive, 579 00:26:32,439 --> 00:26:34,240 and creative, and fantastic. 580 00:26:34,241 --> 00:26:36,776 I have to tell you, I must have been very obnoxious, 581 00:26:36,777 --> 00:26:38,988 'cause at a certain point, Jon just stopped talking to me. 582 00:26:39,012 --> 00:26:40,413 - And... and it was like... - No. 583 00:26:40,414 --> 00:26:41,647 You know? 584 00:26:41,648 --> 00:26:43,215 And occasionally, he would say something, 585 00:26:43,216 --> 00:26:45,418 like he'd come by and see me doing something, 586 00:26:45,419 --> 00:26:46,452 and he was like, "Oh, there's the writer 587 00:26:46,453 --> 00:26:47,613 fucking everything up again." 588 00:26:47,821 --> 00:26:50,289 No, I don't wanna go there. 589 00:26:50,290 --> 00:26:54,226 And Jon Davison fired me off the picture in Dallas. 590 00:26:54,227 --> 00:26:55,461 Right before we were gonna leave Dallas, 591 00:26:55,462 --> 00:26:56,629 he said, "You're wrapped." 592 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:58,130 "You probably have enough." 593 00:26:58,131 --> 00:26:59,632 And I was like devastated. 594 00:26:59,633 --> 00:27:02,134 I was just devastated that you would separate me 595 00:27:02,135 --> 00:27:03,135 from this movie. 596 00:27:03,403 --> 00:27:05,905 And Paul Verhoeven had to go to him, and say... 597 00:27:05,906 --> 00:27:07,773 "No, we have to take the writer with us 598 00:27:07,774 --> 00:27:08,909 to Pittsburgh." 599 00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:20,419 When RoboCop practices his aim, the baby jars are the metaphor. 600 00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:23,989 What RoboCop is doing there is annihilating 601 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:28,928 the force-fed problem. And that's how technology 602 00:27:28,929 --> 00:27:32,231 is thinking of him as their baby. 603 00:27:32,232 --> 00:27:33,233 He's killing it. 604 00:27:34,668 --> 00:27:38,504 And he's annihilating the thing that technology gave him 605 00:27:38,505 --> 00:27:40,339 to keep him sapling. 606 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:43,275 My targeting system is a little messed up. 607 00:27:43,276 --> 00:27:47,346 And he's asking another human being for help. 608 00:27:47,347 --> 00:27:48,949 He is becoming Murphy. 609 00:27:52,886 --> 00:27:53,886 Can I help you? 610 00:27:54,821 --> 00:27:56,255 Aim for me. 611 00:27:56,256 --> 00:27:57,857 In the abandoned third draft, 612 00:27:57,858 --> 00:28:00,993 there may have been a romantic idea there. 613 00:28:00,994 --> 00:28:03,128 It sounds like something Paul would have wanted to do. 614 00:28:03,129 --> 00:28:07,032 I had no idea about any of that until we all did a Q&A. 615 00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:08,300 And I heard that story. I thought, 616 00:28:08,301 --> 00:28:10,341 "Oh, that's interesting. I never heard that before." 617 00:28:10,570 --> 00:28:12,638 In some ways, Paul and other directors are always trying 618 00:28:12,639 --> 00:28:14,373 to get a kiss in at the end of a movie. 619 00:28:14,374 --> 00:28:15,875 It's not always necessary. 620 00:28:15,876 --> 00:28:18,043 Yeah. I'm glad it... It didn't go that way. 621 00:28:18,044 --> 00:28:20,146 That would have been kind of strange. 622 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,548 More to the left. 623 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:23,582 Here. 624 00:28:23,583 --> 00:28:24,817 One of the things that's cool 625 00:28:24,818 --> 00:28:26,298 about the relationship between them is 626 00:28:26,353 --> 00:28:28,989 it's a non-romantic, a non-sexist, 627 00:28:29,456 --> 00:28:30,456 in a way, relationship. 628 00:28:30,757 --> 00:28:33,125 And I think that Paul really embraced that as well. 629 00:28:33,126 --> 00:28:34,727 I figure that's dead-on. 630 00:28:34,728 --> 00:28:35,728 Thank you. 631 00:28:38,498 --> 00:28:39,732 The scene was written 632 00:28:39,733 --> 00:28:43,235 in the original story for a car cemetery. 633 00:28:43,236 --> 00:28:45,671 You see all these cars on top of each other. 634 00:28:45,672 --> 00:28:48,074 That was written for that, basically. 635 00:28:48,475 --> 00:28:50,309 But then for some way, we couldn't find it. 636 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:52,846 And then somebody was talking about a steel factory. 637 00:28:56,416 --> 00:28:58,217 When we were shooting Joe's death scene... 638 00:28:58,218 --> 00:28:59,552 Dammit! 639 00:28:59,553 --> 00:29:02,221 First of all, falling with a 45-pound gun, 640 00:29:02,222 --> 00:29:04,089 you really gotta position yourself, 641 00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:05,891 so you don't break a finger or something. 642 00:29:05,892 --> 00:29:06,892 Looking for me? 643 00:29:10,030 --> 00:29:11,564 Man, when that shit blew up, 644 00:29:11,565 --> 00:29:15,768 I had bruises on my chest like for a month. 645 00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:19,605 They hit so hard, I was like, "I'm okay. It's okay." 646 00:29:19,606 --> 00:29:22,207 "I'm... I'm all right." 647 00:29:22,208 --> 00:29:24,209 Boy, I had to try to man up behind that, 648 00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:25,711 but you know, tears were kinda like 649 00:29:25,712 --> 00:29:27,546 coming out the side of my eye. 650 00:29:27,547 --> 00:29:29,348 I was so glad I was laying on the ground, 651 00:29:29,349 --> 00:29:32,285 nobody could see me. That shit hurt. 652 00:29:35,555 --> 00:29:38,924 The process of making a movie makes everybody an asshole. 653 00:29:38,925 --> 00:29:43,929 "Why is my Winnebago not in front of the studio? 654 00:29:43,930 --> 00:29:45,297 I have to walk!" 655 00:29:45,298 --> 00:29:48,934 You know, that was me. I did that. I became that guy. 656 00:29:48,935 --> 00:29:50,803 And hopefully, I'm not that guy now, 657 00:29:50,804 --> 00:29:53,739 but I was definitely that guy to some people. 658 00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:55,774 And I'm sure a couple of people thought 659 00:29:55,775 --> 00:30:01,080 that I was, you know, uh, not necessarily a nice guy. 660 00:30:01,081 --> 00:30:04,017 I can think of two people, and I probably wasn't. 661 00:30:05,418 --> 00:30:06,819 When we were in Monessen, Pennsylvania, 662 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:08,454 shooting the steel mill, 663 00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:10,923 Peter's upstairs. We were up two or three floors. 664 00:30:10,924 --> 00:30:12,692 You had to go upstairs to get to him. 665 00:30:13,093 --> 00:30:14,827 We had an explosion behind him. 666 00:30:14,828 --> 00:30:17,297 We'd make the explosion hot. We were ready to go. 667 00:30:18,465 --> 00:30:21,266 I went upstairs, and I was carrying, 668 00:30:21,267 --> 00:30:24,870 I don't know, about eight Oreos you know, in a stack. 669 00:30:24,871 --> 00:30:27,840 I'd hand him his weapon. I say, "Peter, safety's off." 670 00:30:27,841 --> 00:30:29,775 And he wouldn't take the pistol. 671 00:30:29,776 --> 00:30:32,778 And he says, "Robo wants an Oreo." 672 00:30:32,779 --> 00:30:34,113 And I looked at him, and I go, 673 00:30:34,114 --> 00:30:36,016 "No. It's just you and I, Peter. 674 00:30:36,483 --> 00:30:38,117 Robo doesn't get an Oreo. 675 00:30:38,118 --> 00:30:41,187 If Peter wants an Oreo, Peter can have an Oreo." 676 00:30:41,488 --> 00:30:44,690 And he clip-clops in the suit over to the edge of the railing, 677 00:30:44,691 --> 00:30:48,260 and Peter starts bellowing, "Robo wants an Oreo." 678 00:30:48,261 --> 00:30:50,429 And when the steel mill just echoes, 679 00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:53,533 "Randy has Oreos" or "Robo wants an Oreo." 680 00:30:53,867 --> 00:30:55,367 And Steve Lim over the radio goes, 681 00:30:55,368 --> 00:30:56,836 Uh, Randy, do you have Oreos? 682 00:30:57,037 --> 00:31:00,873 So, I stuffed that whole stack in my mouth, 683 00:31:00,874 --> 00:31:03,275 and then crunched them, and let 'em fall down 684 00:31:03,276 --> 00:31:04,756 three stories onto everybody below me. 685 00:31:04,978 --> 00:31:10,517 And I, "Not anymore." And Robo got upset. 686 00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:12,918 I haven't got a damn clue 687 00:31:12,919 --> 00:31:17,289 about Randy Moore and his fuckin' Oreos. 688 00:31:17,290 --> 00:31:19,459 Randy Moore's a friend, but half the time, 689 00:31:19,726 --> 00:31:21,526 I don't know what the hell he's talking about. 690 00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:25,898 So, he's got all these stories from RoboCop. 691 00:31:25,899 --> 00:31:27,099 I don't remember 'em. 692 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,400 Steve Lim's going, 693 00:31:28,401 --> 00:31:30,904 "Can we get this shot? And then Robo can have an Oreo." 694 00:31:31,404 --> 00:31:34,707 And Peter said, "No." So, they had to cut. 695 00:31:34,708 --> 00:31:36,308 They were rolling. They were ready to go. 696 00:31:36,576 --> 00:31:38,244 Now, we're hot on the explosive. 697 00:31:38,545 --> 00:31:40,913 They had to send a PA up the stairs. 698 00:31:40,914 --> 00:31:42,514 They feed him an Oreo. 699 00:31:42,515 --> 00:31:44,550 And now, he's got Oreo in his teeth. 700 00:31:44,551 --> 00:31:48,020 So, then the PA has to pick the Oreos out of his teeth. 701 00:31:48,021 --> 00:31:49,555 And then he says, "Okay, I'm ready," 702 00:31:49,556 --> 00:31:50,590 and then we shot it. 703 00:31:53,593 --> 00:31:55,494 So, after that, Peter would always say, 704 00:31:55,495 --> 00:31:57,229 "Robo wants an Oreo." 705 00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:59,364 So, I had a gentleman that worked with me. 706 00:31:59,365 --> 00:32:01,200 And his official title should have been 707 00:32:01,201 --> 00:32:03,535 The Peter Feeder, because that's what the crew 708 00:32:03,536 --> 00:32:04,938 called him, as "The Peter Feeder", 709 00:32:05,205 --> 00:32:08,607 because for some reason, weapons had to feed Peter Oreos. 710 00:32:08,608 --> 00:32:12,578 Randy, love you madly. 711 00:32:12,579 --> 00:32:16,449 I don't believe one fucking word out of your mouth, bro. 712 00:32:24,357 --> 00:32:25,691 I thought Ed and Mike's script 713 00:32:25,692 --> 00:32:27,926 was really good and really smart. 714 00:32:27,927 --> 00:32:30,629 And I thought the film improved on the script, 715 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:32,398 which I was really happy about. 716 00:32:34,134 --> 00:32:35,400 There in that scene, it was one of those, you know, 717 00:32:35,401 --> 00:32:36,770 just survival. 718 00:32:37,837 --> 00:32:39,104 Well, he doesn't really run, 719 00:32:39,105 --> 00:32:40,640 but he gets out of the way very fast. 720 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,808 I mean, it was one of those things 721 00:32:41,809 --> 00:32:44,243 that you can only do 722 00:32:44,244 --> 00:32:45,779 what the suit would allow you to do. 723 00:32:46,112 --> 00:32:48,715 Okay! Now, I've got ya! 724 00:32:50,283 --> 00:32:52,484 You're standing there, and as he's coming at you, 725 00:32:52,485 --> 00:32:53,852 you just have to get out of the way 726 00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:55,622 at the very last moment. 727 00:32:57,157 --> 00:32:59,458 And one of those things is you just got to time it 728 00:32:59,459 --> 00:33:00,426 to where you go, "Okay. 729 00:33:00,427 --> 00:33:01,747 How fast can I move in this suit?" 730 00:33:03,930 --> 00:33:06,832 Everything was very meticulous. Peter would correct me, 731 00:33:06,833 --> 00:33:09,302 and he goes, "Okay, do this, 'cause this is what I would do." 732 00:33:11,037 --> 00:33:13,972 - I like the melting man gag. - I think that's a lot of fun. 733 00:33:13,973 --> 00:33:15,307 You go in this tank, and you wash out, 734 00:33:15,308 --> 00:33:16,608 you become a monster. 735 00:33:16,609 --> 00:33:18,649 Those are the kind of things that I think are funny. 736 00:33:19,846 --> 00:33:21,390 I remember Rob coming into the room, and saying, 737 00:33:21,414 --> 00:33:23,649 "Oh shit, we've got to create this makeup for this character." 738 00:33:23,650 --> 00:33:26,185 He gets thrown into a vat of toxic radioactive waste, 739 00:33:26,186 --> 00:33:27,287 and he starts to melt. 740 00:33:33,159 --> 00:33:35,294 The toxic waste section was a stunt guy 741 00:33:35,295 --> 00:33:37,597 that did the actual roll out of the stuff. 742 00:33:41,601 --> 00:33:44,237 But then getting up, obviously, was me. 743 00:33:51,177 --> 00:33:52,845 We have pictures of the actor. 744 00:33:52,846 --> 00:33:54,980 I did some tracings of him, and then Rob 745 00:33:54,981 --> 00:33:57,482 brought me a picture of a guy who's got stung 746 00:33:57,483 --> 00:34:01,320 by a wasp on his eye, and his eye was swollen up huge. 747 00:34:01,321 --> 00:34:02,688 So, I incorporated that into the design. 748 00:34:02,689 --> 00:34:03,866 I think he just said, "Go for it." 749 00:34:03,890 --> 00:34:05,624 He said, "Imagine that the guy's skin 750 00:34:05,625 --> 00:34:07,192 is made of ice cream and it's starting to melt 751 00:34:07,193 --> 00:34:08,194 off of his body." 752 00:34:11,331 --> 00:34:12,731 We shot that over two days. 753 00:34:12,732 --> 00:34:15,535 The first day, it was six and a half hours of makeup 754 00:34:15,835 --> 00:34:16,803 before we started shooting, 755 00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:20,239 where Rob Bottin's team, great, great guys, 756 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:24,409 literally were like gluing this torso prosthesis on me 757 00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:26,411 every square inch. 758 00:34:26,412 --> 00:34:28,013 I think we had two different stages on the head. 759 00:34:28,014 --> 00:34:30,182 I think the first stage was mainly this side, 760 00:34:30,183 --> 00:34:34,186 and we used a fair amount of his face over here. 761 00:34:34,187 --> 00:34:36,688 Also, added this little road rash. 762 00:34:36,689 --> 00:34:39,258 That was a continuity thing from when he fell off 763 00:34:39,259 --> 00:34:40,826 the motorcycle at the gas station. 764 00:34:40,827 --> 00:34:42,561 You're dead. We killed you! 765 00:34:42,562 --> 00:34:43,896 And then when he comes 766 00:34:43,897 --> 00:34:46,265 staggering out a little later and gets hit by the car, 767 00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:49,302 then we had a facial piece on the other side as well. 768 00:34:56,276 --> 00:34:58,677 We were eating, sleeping RoboCop, you know? 769 00:34:58,678 --> 00:35:01,113 We were in the shop working at night, 770 00:35:01,114 --> 00:35:02,414 repairing stuff, 771 00:35:02,415 --> 00:35:04,416 and then shooting it during the day. 772 00:35:04,417 --> 00:35:06,085 It was nonstop. 773 00:35:10,690 --> 00:35:13,859 I think we showed up to work at 3:00 in the morning 774 00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:16,729 and didn't leave until 2:00 at night. 775 00:35:17,096 --> 00:35:19,131 So, it was a long, long day. 776 00:35:19,132 --> 00:35:20,565 We shot it, 777 00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:22,401 and it was about two or three hours to take it off. 778 00:35:22,402 --> 00:35:24,303 The next day, they got it down to, as I recall, 779 00:35:24,304 --> 00:35:25,544 about three hours to put it on. 780 00:35:34,013 --> 00:35:35,247 Hands were part of it, 781 00:35:35,248 --> 00:35:36,748 and he wanted to see finger bones sticking out. 782 00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:38,784 And I said, "Well, are you gonna have a melting effect 783 00:35:38,785 --> 00:35:40,285 or is this gonna be all done in rubber?" 784 00:35:40,286 --> 00:35:41,920 "No, no, no. We're just gonna do it all out of rubber." 785 00:35:41,921 --> 00:35:43,789 "Okay. So, you want like, melting skin like hanging down 786 00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:45,023 like it's dripping?" "Yeah, yeah, yeah. 787 00:35:45,024 --> 00:35:46,091 "It'll just... it'll work. 788 00:35:46,092 --> 00:35:47,292 We'll just wave the ends of the fingers, 789 00:35:47,293 --> 00:35:49,127 and they'll just kind of dangle, and it'll work." 790 00:35:49,128 --> 00:35:50,462 I tried to take 791 00:35:50,463 --> 00:35:52,164 physical positions that seemed to reflect 792 00:35:52,165 --> 00:35:53,332 what he had designed. 793 00:35:53,333 --> 00:35:54,967 I looked in the mirror once I had the thing on. 794 00:35:54,968 --> 00:35:57,003 Help me. 795 00:35:58,371 --> 00:35:59,372 The vocalizations I did 796 00:35:59,806 --> 00:36:02,141 and all that kind of stuff were just my playing with things 797 00:36:02,375 --> 00:36:05,778 based on what Paul asked for and what Rob had built. 798 00:36:09,849 --> 00:36:11,450 My favorite line of the movie, 799 00:36:11,451 --> 00:36:13,585 Leon comes running around the corner, 800 00:36:13,586 --> 00:36:15,020 Paul comes up to him, 801 00:36:15,021 --> 00:36:17,756 and his fingers are melting, and his face is melting. 802 00:36:17,757 --> 00:36:23,962 And Leon does not want him to melt on him. 803 00:36:23,963 --> 00:36:27,500 So, he says, "Don't touch me, man!" 804 00:36:27,834 --> 00:36:29,769 Don't touch me, man! 805 00:36:31,804 --> 00:36:33,005 It's one of those things 806 00:36:33,006 --> 00:36:36,341 I'm glad that I did, but I wouldn't particularly 807 00:36:36,342 --> 00:36:37,510 wanna do it again. 808 00:36:40,179 --> 00:36:43,081 There's one shot with the wheel cap coming loose. 809 00:36:43,082 --> 00:36:44,683 I mean, this was not planned that way. 810 00:36:44,684 --> 00:36:45,684 It just happened. 811 00:36:45,852 --> 00:36:48,721 I was in the camera, and I heard it like, whee, 812 00:36:49,155 --> 00:36:50,856 went over my head. 813 00:36:50,857 --> 00:36:54,026 Maybe it could have ended with another credit 814 00:36:54,027 --> 00:36:56,628 at the end of the film for two DPs, 815 00:36:56,629 --> 00:36:59,799 the one before he died and the other one who took over. 816 00:37:02,869 --> 00:37:04,971 I also helped set up the big splat. 817 00:37:08,374 --> 00:37:10,675 I helped dress the dummy to look like Emil, 818 00:37:10,676 --> 00:37:12,277 and took all the old prosthetics, 819 00:37:12,278 --> 00:37:14,646 put it on there, and then helped load the thing 820 00:37:14,647 --> 00:37:17,182 with all the methylcellulose slime. 821 00:37:17,183 --> 00:37:18,717 I remember just screaming, you know? 822 00:37:18,718 --> 00:37:21,220 I just... it was so funny, just this big splat. 823 00:37:23,256 --> 00:37:25,224 Shit! 824 00:37:25,591 --> 00:37:29,595 It was extremely funny, because he's blown to pieces. 825 00:37:33,099 --> 00:37:34,099 Oh, God. 826 00:37:36,402 --> 00:37:38,537 Verhoeven has a great sense of humor. 827 00:37:38,538 --> 00:37:41,440 His use of humor where people wouldn't even see humor. 828 00:37:41,441 --> 00:37:42,761 It's like, "Oh, this is fine. Oh." 829 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,782 It's really nice to have been a part of something that uh, 830 00:37:50,783 --> 00:37:53,085 seems to have made a mark, you know? 831 00:37:53,086 --> 00:37:54,854 You wanna live forever? 832 00:38:04,030 --> 00:38:07,065 There's no guarantees in this business about anything, 833 00:38:07,066 --> 00:38:08,634 however good you think it is. 834 00:38:10,169 --> 00:38:11,903 Things got a little bit 835 00:38:11,904 --> 00:38:15,507 contested between crew and... you know, and Paul. 836 00:38:15,508 --> 00:38:17,142 So, the crew had a countdown. 837 00:38:17,143 --> 00:38:19,744 That said, you know, "20 more days with this, 838 00:38:19,745 --> 00:38:25,118 and 15 more days of this, 10 more days." 839 00:38:25,318 --> 00:38:27,986 Verhoeven, I felt, was a little on the tough side. 840 00:38:27,987 --> 00:38:34,426 He had an attitude of, you know, maybe very militaristic, 841 00:38:34,427 --> 00:38:35,461 you might say. 842 00:38:35,661 --> 00:38:36,761 We were miserable, I guess, 843 00:38:36,762 --> 00:38:38,130 to be around, and all we wanted to do 844 00:38:38,131 --> 00:38:39,431 was make this movie all the time. 845 00:38:39,432 --> 00:38:41,366 So, by the end, we were the only people 846 00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:43,468 who would talk to each other. I mean, no one would talk to us. 847 00:38:43,469 --> 00:38:44,736 The producer wouldn't talk to us. 848 00:38:44,737 --> 00:38:45,804 The whole crew hated us. 849 00:38:45,805 --> 00:38:48,173 And we were always alone in the restaurant. 850 00:38:48,174 --> 00:38:50,810 And everybody was snarling at us or we were snarling at them. 851 00:38:51,077 --> 00:38:52,511 Everybody was suffering, and it was hard. 852 00:38:52,512 --> 00:38:53,678 I mean, it was a hard shoot. 853 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,114 But at the same time, 854 00:38:56,115 --> 00:38:57,516 every day, you loved being there, 'cause you knew 855 00:38:57,517 --> 00:38:59,384 you were making a great film. 856 00:38:59,385 --> 00:39:00,752 That famous scene 857 00:39:00,753 --> 00:39:03,555 and the chase between the cars going through the area 858 00:39:03,556 --> 00:39:06,625 and all of that, it's a rough look, okay? 859 00:39:06,626 --> 00:39:08,786 If you wanna put it that way, that's what it had to be, 860 00:39:09,128 --> 00:39:12,131 because of the apocalypse of the period, you might say. 861 00:39:12,398 --> 00:39:13,398 At the end of the shoot, 862 00:39:13,399 --> 00:39:15,400 we ended up in Monessen, Pennsylvania. 863 00:39:15,401 --> 00:39:17,135 I guess it was mid-November. 864 00:39:17,136 --> 00:39:19,704 So, East Coast, it was really cold. 865 00:39:19,705 --> 00:39:21,207 I'd never been squibbed before. 866 00:39:21,507 --> 00:39:25,044 That is quite an experience that I would not wish on anyone. 867 00:39:27,213 --> 00:39:28,548 In a strange way, 868 00:39:29,048 --> 00:39:31,160 feeling those little thumps and bumps around your body 869 00:39:31,184 --> 00:39:33,152 help you with what it is you have to do. 870 00:39:33,386 --> 00:39:36,522 Worse than the squibs? The water. 871 00:39:37,023 --> 00:39:40,225 The absolutely disgusting, rusty water 872 00:39:40,226 --> 00:39:42,160 that I had to get into that was freezing cold. 873 00:39:42,161 --> 00:39:44,497 So, I'll take the squibs any day. 874 00:39:46,666 --> 00:39:49,901 For me, it had that very specific atmosphere, 875 00:39:49,902 --> 00:39:52,671 you know, because of these enormous amounts of steel 876 00:39:52,672 --> 00:39:53,672 that were there. 877 00:39:53,673 --> 00:39:55,840 There was these enormous walls. 878 00:39:55,841 --> 00:39:58,877 It really felt like Troy or Jerusalem, you know? 879 00:39:58,878 --> 00:40:00,245 Ed and I talked a lot 880 00:40:00,246 --> 00:40:04,450 about the man in the iron mask, uh, a quest for identity. 881 00:40:04,917 --> 00:40:08,588 But the Christ metaphor, Paul pretty much brought. 882 00:40:09,989 --> 00:40:12,525 - Bye-bye, baby. - Clarence! 883 00:40:16,195 --> 00:40:17,562 I had built something 884 00:40:17,563 --> 00:40:19,898 under the water, basically, so he could walk there 885 00:40:19,899 --> 00:40:22,535 because I wanted him to be Jesus walking over the water. 886 00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:25,837 Okay. I give up. 887 00:40:25,838 --> 00:40:26,838 And now, he says... 888 00:40:27,173 --> 00:40:28,873 I'm not arresting you anymore. 889 00:40:28,874 --> 00:40:30,642 "I'm not going to arrest you anymore. 890 00:40:30,643 --> 00:40:32,277 I'm going to kill you." 891 00:40:32,278 --> 00:40:34,080 And that's, for me, the American Jesus. 892 00:40:37,183 --> 00:40:38,618 I had to run out on that catwalk 893 00:40:38,851 --> 00:40:41,486 on the top to get to the crane booth, 894 00:40:41,487 --> 00:40:44,089 so that I could drop the steel down on RoboCop. 895 00:40:44,090 --> 00:40:46,658 And I saw how high up it was, and it was kind of scary, 896 00:40:46,659 --> 00:40:48,326 to tell you the truth. 897 00:40:48,327 --> 00:40:49,894 RoboCop comes over the water, 898 00:40:49,895 --> 00:40:51,764 and then the other guy pulls the handle, 899 00:40:52,031 --> 00:40:54,100 and then all these beams fall on RoboCop. 900 00:40:56,969 --> 00:40:58,103 They had a dummy there 901 00:40:58,104 --> 00:41:00,672 that it actually... all the big, heavy beams 902 00:41:00,673 --> 00:41:02,041 actually fell right on him. 903 00:41:03,776 --> 00:41:05,744 Die, you bastard! 904 00:41:05,745 --> 00:41:06,679 Wow. 905 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,680 I got him, Clarence! 906 00:41:07,681 --> 00:41:08,781 I got him! 907 00:41:12,918 --> 00:41:14,119 That black costume 908 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,255 that I had on, they also put on the dummy. 909 00:41:17,256 --> 00:41:20,158 They gave me that costume after it was blown up. 910 00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:21,426 It's in tatters. 911 00:41:21,427 --> 00:41:24,829 It was blown all to hell, but um, I still have it. 912 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,899 I always have it. And all I have to do is find it. 913 00:41:28,467 --> 00:41:29,601 And then whenever 914 00:41:29,602 --> 00:41:31,303 he's all entangled, and the beams 915 00:41:31,304 --> 00:41:33,538 were all fake ones, but that was Peter. 916 00:41:33,539 --> 00:41:34,839 And I can't get out of it. 917 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,375 And then Kurtwood in a desperation, 918 00:41:37,376 --> 00:41:39,512 comes over and stabs me with that spike. 919 00:41:45,351 --> 00:41:48,186 Sometimes, the violence was very, very direct and... 920 00:41:48,187 --> 00:41:49,187 And... and real. 921 00:41:55,494 --> 00:41:56,462 There was just a discussion 922 00:41:56,463 --> 00:41:58,496 with Paul that I should take this 923 00:41:58,497 --> 00:42:00,799 as if there is, you know, a nerve center 924 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,268 somewhere responding to it. 925 00:42:03,269 --> 00:42:05,203 So, the body's response is all I'm doing 926 00:42:05,204 --> 00:42:09,041 is like in the agony of the robotics. 927 00:42:11,711 --> 00:42:13,044 When he stabbed in the neck, 928 00:42:13,045 --> 00:42:17,650 that was what I called the Paul Verhoeven "take that". 929 00:42:17,983 --> 00:42:19,050 For whatever reason, 930 00:42:19,051 --> 00:42:21,353 as you would work it and just kind of handle it, 931 00:42:21,354 --> 00:42:23,655 the mechanism would start getting a little sloppy. 932 00:42:23,656 --> 00:42:26,891 And it would like, just go off by itself sometimes. 933 00:42:26,892 --> 00:42:28,827 So, Paul's like, "Let me see the... the hand", 934 00:42:28,828 --> 00:42:30,295 'cause he's gonna set up the shot. 935 00:42:30,296 --> 00:42:32,964 And they like pass the hand over to him, 936 00:42:32,965 --> 00:42:36,368 and just the motion triggers it. 937 00:42:36,369 --> 00:42:38,136 The spike comes out, and it's just like, 938 00:42:38,137 --> 00:42:39,838 probably like, that close to his eye. 939 00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:41,339 And he just like looks over at me, 940 00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:43,100 and I'm like, "Oh, I didn't do it," you know? 941 00:42:43,142 --> 00:42:44,909 And as he gets close... 942 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:47,213 Sayonara, RoboCop! 943 00:42:48,848 --> 00:42:50,382 The cop takes over. 944 00:42:50,383 --> 00:42:54,085 And then it's like the cop takes vengeance. 945 00:42:54,086 --> 00:42:55,921 Boom. 946 00:42:58,557 --> 00:43:00,625 Paul is just like, "Give me this cup." 947 00:43:00,626 --> 00:43:02,261 And then he fills it with fake blood, 948 00:43:02,728 --> 00:43:06,432 and the camera's on... on Peter, and it goes like splat. 949 00:43:07,867 --> 00:43:10,269 It was not subtle, but hey, it worked. 950 00:43:12,605 --> 00:43:15,941 And action! 951 00:43:18,644 --> 00:43:21,714 I had no doubt that that movie was gonna be a hit. 952 00:43:23,282 --> 00:43:27,018 First of all, it was much more in the comic book vein 953 00:43:27,019 --> 00:43:28,621 than we had seen before. 954 00:43:30,623 --> 00:43:33,825 And there's so much more to it in terms of what it had to say 955 00:43:33,826 --> 00:43:35,927 about machines and men. 956 00:43:35,928 --> 00:43:37,129 Lewis! 957 00:43:38,497 --> 00:43:41,433 Murphy, I'm a mess. 958 00:43:41,434 --> 00:43:42,667 Nancy reminded me. 959 00:43:42,668 --> 00:43:44,235 She said, "Don't you remember?" 960 00:43:44,236 --> 00:43:46,905 At the end of it, you know, when I say, 961 00:43:46,906 --> 00:43:48,441 "They'll fix you. They fix everything." 962 00:43:48,808 --> 00:43:51,376 They'll fix you. 963 00:43:51,377 --> 00:43:53,412 They fix everything. 964 00:43:53,746 --> 00:43:55,780 That's my line. 965 00:43:55,781 --> 00:43:58,583 There are notes that I gave to Jon Davison. 966 00:43:58,584 --> 00:43:59,851 "Can we do this? Can we change that? 967 00:43:59,852 --> 00:44:01,486 Can we..." whatever. 968 00:44:01,487 --> 00:44:05,423 - Murphy says, "They'll fix you. - They fix everything." 969 00:44:05,424 --> 00:44:07,392 And I was like, "Wow." 970 00:44:07,393 --> 00:44:10,161 And I was just floored. 971 00:44:10,162 --> 00:44:11,529 I was just knocked out 972 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:13,532 by how good I thought the film was. 973 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:26,945 So, at the end, when RoboCop approaches the building, 974 00:44:26,946 --> 00:44:29,080 ED-209 is guarding the building there. 975 00:44:29,081 --> 00:44:31,349 His upper torso swivels over. 976 00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:32,550 So, this is one of the things we kind of built 977 00:44:32,551 --> 00:44:34,553 the capacity for into the full-scale prop. 978 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:36,855 He had a hinging point. 979 00:44:36,856 --> 00:44:38,990 That was one of our big live-action movements 980 00:44:38,991 --> 00:44:40,159 for ED-209. 981 00:44:48,634 --> 00:44:51,135 When RoboCop destroys ED-209, 982 00:44:51,136 --> 00:44:53,505 the day before, they had done the actual shooting 983 00:44:53,506 --> 00:44:55,840 of Peter Weller with the actual cannon. 984 00:44:55,841 --> 00:44:56,842 Boom! 985 00:44:59,678 --> 00:45:00,646 And the blanks 986 00:45:00,647 --> 00:45:02,680 were strong enough that they rattled 987 00:45:02,681 --> 00:45:04,482 all of the windows in the entire building, 988 00:45:04,483 --> 00:45:06,218 you know, almost to the point of shattering. 989 00:45:06,685 --> 00:45:09,654 Yikes. Is that fun, man. 990 00:45:09,655 --> 00:45:11,589 This was, of course, quite a big deal. 991 00:45:11,590 --> 00:45:12,750 And a lot of police came out. 992 00:45:13,158 --> 00:45:15,894 And they tried to arrest Paul Verhoeven. 993 00:45:15,895 --> 00:45:16,895 How are you doing? 994 00:45:17,062 --> 00:45:18,030 And Paul Verhoeven's like, 995 00:45:18,030 --> 00:45:18,998 "I don't have a driver's license. 996 00:45:18,998 --> 00:45:19,998 How do we arrest you?" 997 00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:22,500 So, the next day, 998 00:45:22,501 --> 00:45:23,812 when it came time to blow the robot up, 999 00:45:23,836 --> 00:45:26,305 which should have been a big destruction scene, 1000 00:45:26,505 --> 00:45:28,473 I think everybody was very gun shy. 1001 00:45:28,474 --> 00:45:31,142 So, the charge ended up being a lot smaller 1002 00:45:31,143 --> 00:45:32,463 than they might have wanted to be. 1003 00:45:36,248 --> 00:45:38,217 So, yeah. We went back in, and optically added 1004 00:45:38,551 --> 00:45:40,785 explosion elements to that to sort of get the actual 1005 00:45:40,786 --> 00:45:43,022 full, you know, extent of destruction. 1006 00:45:45,391 --> 00:45:47,325 Once the thing was blown up, you cut back to it. 1007 00:45:47,326 --> 00:45:49,895 That then was the actual stop-motion puppet. 1008 00:45:51,964 --> 00:45:53,765 It had a lot of moving parts to it. 1009 00:45:53,766 --> 00:45:56,167 I was doing an in-camera composite with smoke 1010 00:45:56,168 --> 00:45:57,201 and all sorts of things 1011 00:45:57,202 --> 00:45:58,482 that had to go at a certain time. 1012 00:45:58,604 --> 00:45:59,971 They had to very trickily, 1013 00:45:59,972 --> 00:46:02,707 sort of, animate in the smoke elements. 1014 00:46:02,708 --> 00:46:04,108 A lot of these things are done in-camera. 1015 00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:06,277 So, you're basically sort of animating elements 1016 00:46:06,278 --> 00:46:07,913 to follow a moving object. 1017 00:46:09,782 --> 00:46:11,449 I was about halfway through the shot, 1018 00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:15,053 and Jon called me up, and said, "Hey, you know what? 1019 00:46:15,054 --> 00:46:17,121 Can you do something funny at the end of the shot? 1020 00:46:17,122 --> 00:46:18,923 'Cause the movie's too serious." 1021 00:46:18,924 --> 00:46:20,292 So I'm like, "Yeah, okay." 1022 00:46:20,726 --> 00:46:22,460 Good. 1023 00:46:22,461 --> 00:46:24,861 And so, the thing with the foot was a very last-minute thing. 1024 00:46:25,197 --> 00:46:26,965 You know, at that point, I just took it farther. 1025 00:46:26,966 --> 00:46:28,968 I had him, you know, walk in as like a drunk thing 1026 00:46:29,234 --> 00:46:31,970 and then have like, a little whirligig spinning. 1027 00:46:31,971 --> 00:46:33,571 And then he falls over, 1028 00:46:33,572 --> 00:46:35,274 and does the thing with his foot. 1029 00:46:37,643 --> 00:46:43,147 You know, we were budgeted 9,995, and we were at about 13. 1030 00:46:43,148 --> 00:46:46,284 So, we were over the 10 percent contingency. 1031 00:46:46,285 --> 00:46:49,454 And the completion bond company had every right 1032 00:46:49,455 --> 00:46:52,124 to take the picture over and just finish it themselves. 1033 00:46:52,558 --> 00:46:54,125 And they didn't have to do the effects. 1034 00:46:54,126 --> 00:46:55,994 They didn't have to put sound effects in. 1035 00:46:55,995 --> 00:46:57,462 They could take it over. 1036 00:46:57,463 --> 00:46:59,697 And Mike Medavoy wouldn't let 'em do it. 1037 00:46:59,698 --> 00:47:03,701 He had the faith in the picture to tell the completion bond, 1038 00:47:03,702 --> 00:47:05,970 "No, you're not taking it over. 1039 00:47:05,971 --> 00:47:10,643 And we'll pick up the overages," and uh, it saved the movie. 1040 00:47:14,446 --> 00:47:17,248 John P. made a lot of great 1041 00:47:17,249 --> 00:47:20,284 synth sweeteners and sounds to accent things. 1042 00:47:20,285 --> 00:47:21,819 And one of the best ones that I love 1043 00:47:21,820 --> 00:47:23,565 is when the doors swing open in the boardroom 1044 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:24,722 at the end of the film. 1045 00:47:24,723 --> 00:47:27,792 And there's that great, cheesy, synthy whomp 1046 00:47:27,793 --> 00:47:29,962 that has no business being there whatsoever. 1047 00:47:33,032 --> 00:47:34,032 But it works. 1048 00:47:36,201 --> 00:47:38,670 They're shooting the boardroom stuff at the end. 1049 00:47:38,671 --> 00:47:41,005 So, we get him all made up with the makeup. 1050 00:47:41,006 --> 00:47:42,807 And we had him ready, and they weren't getting to it. 1051 00:47:42,808 --> 00:47:45,443 And we kept sending word up like, you know, 1052 00:47:45,444 --> 00:47:46,844 "He's been in the makeup for a couple hours. 1053 00:47:46,845 --> 00:47:49,814 It's gonna start breaking down. You know, what's going on?" 1054 00:47:49,815 --> 00:47:51,215 Paul was shooting 1055 00:47:51,216 --> 00:47:55,653 like all the wide shots and everything but the makeup. 1056 00:47:55,654 --> 00:47:57,055 Paul could only shoot it for five hours, 1057 00:47:57,056 --> 00:47:58,736 'cause the face would essentially collapse. 1058 00:47:58,891 --> 00:48:01,459 And the edges were peeling off everywhere. 1059 00:48:01,460 --> 00:48:03,861 And Stephan Dupuis had begged. 1060 00:48:03,862 --> 00:48:06,330 Like, "Shoot the close-ups first." 1061 00:48:06,331 --> 00:48:08,033 And he didn't. 1062 00:48:08,233 --> 00:48:09,667 Instead, he decided 1063 00:48:09,668 --> 00:48:11,903 it was more important to shoot all those action shots. 1064 00:48:11,904 --> 00:48:14,072 And by the time it came to shooting the close-ups, 1065 00:48:14,073 --> 00:48:16,108 the makeup was not acceptable. 1066 00:48:16,508 --> 00:48:18,076 And of course, the makeup was fragile. 1067 00:48:18,077 --> 00:48:20,478 I mean, it was all in one piece. 1068 00:48:20,479 --> 00:48:23,881 It was not easy to apply, 'cause you couldn't fuck up. 1069 00:48:23,882 --> 00:48:25,049 And they just kept 1070 00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:26,517 putting us off and putting us off. 1071 00:48:26,518 --> 00:48:28,553 And at some point, Stephan just went upstairs 1072 00:48:28,554 --> 00:48:30,022 'cause craft service was up there. 1073 00:48:30,222 --> 00:48:31,956 So, he's up there like getting some coffee or something. 1074 00:48:31,957 --> 00:48:33,517 And Paul sees him, and Paul's just like, 1075 00:48:33,792 --> 00:48:35,026 "I don't know when we're gonna get to it!" 1076 00:48:35,027 --> 00:48:36,728 You know, just kinda like, screaming at him. 1077 00:48:36,729 --> 00:48:39,030 And Stephan's just like, "Oh." And he goes back downstairs. 1078 00:48:39,031 --> 00:48:42,233 He goes, "I'm not going to set until he comes and apologizes." 1079 00:48:42,234 --> 00:48:46,571 So, uh, then I decided to act like a fucking diva. 1080 00:48:46,572 --> 00:48:49,907 Stephan just said, "I'm not shooting this makeup. 1081 00:48:49,908 --> 00:48:52,811 In fact, me and my whole team are walking off the set now." 1082 00:48:53,112 --> 00:48:54,245 So, then we're like 1083 00:48:54,246 --> 00:48:55,713 sitting in the trailer, and they're like, 1084 00:48:55,714 --> 00:48:56,914 "Okay, they're ready for him." 1085 00:48:56,982 --> 00:48:58,683 And he's like, "Nope. I'm not gonna go." 1086 00:48:58,684 --> 00:49:00,051 And I said, "Okay. 1087 00:49:00,052 --> 00:49:02,053 He's not coming on the set, because the makeup 1088 00:49:02,054 --> 00:49:03,988 is fucked up now. You didn't listen. 1089 00:49:03,989 --> 00:49:07,225 Okay? Lesson learned? I hope so." 1090 00:49:07,226 --> 00:49:08,626 Stephan essentially 1091 00:49:08,627 --> 00:49:14,767 let production know that no one, no one could knock on that door. 1092 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,267 Peter's like, 1093 00:49:16,268 --> 00:49:17,236 "Well, I'm not going if you guys aren't going." 1094 00:49:17,237 --> 00:49:18,677 And so, we're all just sitting there. 1095 00:49:18,704 --> 00:49:21,072 And then finally Verhoeven comes down, and he's like... 1096 00:49:21,073 --> 00:49:22,574 - Well, I mean... - He goes, 1097 00:49:22,775 --> 00:49:25,076 "I guess you want me to say, 'I'm sorry, ' but I can't." 1098 00:49:25,077 --> 00:49:26,444 So, we had it out 1099 00:49:26,445 --> 00:49:29,281 in the trailer, me, the producers, and Paul. 1100 00:49:29,815 --> 00:49:33,184 And yeah, that was very stressful day. 1101 00:49:33,185 --> 00:49:34,553 Yeah. 1102 00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:36,854 How can we help you, Officer? 1103 00:49:36,855 --> 00:49:39,190 Dick Jones is wanted for murder. 1104 00:49:39,191 --> 00:49:41,392 Obviously, the first time you see RoboCop, 1105 00:49:41,393 --> 00:49:43,327 there's a lot of processing on his voice. 1106 00:49:43,328 --> 00:49:44,996 Yes, I understand. 1107 00:49:44,997 --> 00:49:47,565 As he gets more human, they pull it out. 1108 00:49:47,566 --> 00:49:49,433 My program will not allow me 1109 00:49:49,434 --> 00:49:51,669 to act against an officer of this company. 1110 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:53,504 It's a social critique 1111 00:49:53,505 --> 00:49:56,340 that went very specifically about corporate power, 1112 00:49:56,341 --> 00:49:57,409 corporate greed. 1113 00:49:57,643 --> 00:49:59,111 These are serious charges. 1114 00:49:59,578 --> 00:50:02,014 These impersonal killer executives. 1115 00:50:02,314 --> 00:50:03,648 What is your evidence? 1116 00:50:03,649 --> 00:50:04,782 The businessmen 1117 00:50:04,783 --> 00:50:07,318 who are out there trying to one up each other. 1118 00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:09,521 I had to kill Bob Morton, because he made a mistake. 1119 00:50:11,490 --> 00:50:14,025 Now, it's time to erase that mistake. 1120 00:50:14,026 --> 00:50:15,493 And just raised it another notch 1121 00:50:15,494 --> 00:50:17,062 where they literally do kill each other. 1122 00:50:18,831 --> 00:50:20,064 And it's not only forecasting, 1123 00:50:20,065 --> 00:50:21,866 it's putting its finger right on it. 1124 00:50:21,867 --> 00:50:23,135 I want a chopper now! 1125 00:50:26,438 --> 00:50:28,606 Jon suggested a way 1126 00:50:28,607 --> 00:50:30,708 to invalidate Directive 4 at the end. 1127 00:50:30,709 --> 00:50:32,009 We'd all show up 1128 00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:34,179 at the office every day, and we'd kick stuff around. 1129 00:50:34,446 --> 00:50:36,080 Anybody tries to stop me... 1130 00:50:36,081 --> 00:50:37,215 You know, saying, 1131 00:50:37,216 --> 00:50:38,716 "Oh, what about this, or what about that?" 1132 00:50:38,717 --> 00:50:40,219 the old geezer gets it. 1133 00:50:40,686 --> 00:50:43,621 And I, as a joke, said, how about "You're fired"? 1134 00:50:43,622 --> 00:50:44,789 I never thought 1135 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:46,858 that the "You're fired" line would work. 1136 00:50:46,859 --> 00:50:49,360 I... You know, and Paul, and Ed, and Jon were going, 1137 00:50:49,361 --> 00:50:50,795 "Yeah, it's gonna work. Yeah, it's gonna work." 1138 00:50:50,796 --> 00:50:52,076 I said, "You know, I don't know." 1139 00:50:52,364 --> 00:50:54,333 Dick, you're fired! 1140 00:50:55,667 --> 00:50:56,901 And it worked beautifully. 1141 00:50:56,902 --> 00:50:58,202 So, you know, 1142 00:50:58,203 --> 00:50:59,403 even when you're really involved in it, 1143 00:50:59,404 --> 00:51:00,639 you can be wrong. Right? 1144 00:51:01,006 --> 00:51:03,175 Thank you. 1145 00:51:07,713 --> 00:51:12,049 They put squibs front and back, big heavy loads. 1146 00:51:12,050 --> 00:51:15,887 And I'm not blowing smoke, when they put those off, 1147 00:51:15,888 --> 00:51:20,358 I practically went to my knees, and I was physically ill 1148 00:51:20,359 --> 00:51:22,494 for about an hour after that happened. 1149 00:51:22,928 --> 00:51:23,961 That hurt. 1150 00:51:23,962 --> 00:51:25,529 They made a mistake. 1151 00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:28,367 And they came to me afterwards, and said, "We fucked up." 1152 00:51:36,074 --> 00:51:38,576 I had a little bit of stop-motion experience, 1153 00:51:38,577 --> 00:51:41,679 and I talked with Jon Davison, and he asked me 1154 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,281 about the possibility of doing it 1155 00:51:43,282 --> 00:51:44,983 as a stop-motion character. 1156 00:51:45,384 --> 00:51:47,685 And I told him that I'd be willing to try it, 1157 00:51:47,686 --> 00:51:51,055 and um, thought that I could do something that looked good. 1158 00:51:51,056 --> 00:51:53,325 It ended up looking kind of iffy. 1159 00:51:58,797 --> 00:52:01,133 The Rocco Gioffre shot 1160 00:52:01,566 --> 00:52:05,136 where he falls out the window is a little dodgy. 1161 00:52:05,137 --> 00:52:07,571 That guy falling out of the building at the end 1162 00:52:07,572 --> 00:52:09,608 with the really long arms. Oh. 1163 00:52:11,243 --> 00:52:13,312 We could have done better. 1164 00:52:13,578 --> 00:52:15,179 I don't know what happened to that, 1165 00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:18,183 but I was... I was disappointed. 1166 00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:20,985 Dick, I'm very disappointed. 1167 00:52:20,986 --> 00:52:22,186 Of course, 1168 00:52:22,187 --> 00:52:23,821 I'd like another crack at the Dick Jones thing. 1169 00:52:23,822 --> 00:52:25,256 There's some stuff that I would... would do 1170 00:52:25,257 --> 00:52:26,424 very differently. 1171 00:52:26,425 --> 00:52:28,159 Although, I don't think that it's the fault 1172 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,462 of stop motion that that looks the way that it does. 1173 00:52:31,463 --> 00:52:34,933 It's the proportions of his arms in relationship to the lens 1174 00:52:35,133 --> 00:52:37,469 that we chose and the way that it looks distorted. 1175 00:52:39,271 --> 00:52:40,504 The way this shot 1176 00:52:40,505 --> 00:52:42,841 was supposed to work from what I heard 1177 00:52:43,141 --> 00:52:46,744 was my character was gonna go out the window. 1178 00:52:46,745 --> 00:52:52,016 They were gonna have ostensibly a camera down halfway. 1179 00:52:52,017 --> 00:52:55,520 They were gonna articulate my character coming down, 1180 00:52:55,921 --> 00:52:58,589 down, down, down toward the camera. 1181 00:52:58,590 --> 00:53:01,492 And then they were gonna flip the camera 1182 00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:05,130 and take my character away until he landed in the street. 1183 00:53:06,665 --> 00:53:08,632 Well, obviously, that didn't work. 1184 00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:10,001 That would have been great. 1185 00:53:10,002 --> 00:53:11,869 That's the reason they made that little doll 1186 00:53:11,870 --> 00:53:14,706 to look exactly like me. 1187 00:53:16,074 --> 00:53:17,509 There's nothing like RoboCop. 1188 00:53:20,178 --> 00:53:21,813 I mean, there isn't. 1189 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,315 That has a social message like this 1190 00:53:24,316 --> 00:53:26,351 that gets you on four or five different levels. 1191 00:53:26,818 --> 00:53:28,687 Verhoeven's power, I mean, he knew 1192 00:53:28,954 --> 00:53:30,087 the end of that movie is... 1193 00:53:30,088 --> 00:53:32,490 Nice shooting, son. What's your name? 1194 00:53:32,491 --> 00:53:33,625 "What's your name?" 1195 00:53:35,427 --> 00:53:36,494 Murphy. 1196 00:53:36,495 --> 00:53:38,429 "Murphy." 1197 00:53:38,430 --> 00:53:39,663 I'll never forget that. 1198 00:53:39,664 --> 00:53:42,401 Before Peter Weller could answer Murphy... 1199 00:53:42,701 --> 00:53:45,002 Nice shooting, son. What's your name? 1200 00:53:45,003 --> 00:53:48,874 The whole theater in one voice said, "Murphy!" 1201 00:53:49,207 --> 00:53:50,641 Yes! 1202 00:53:50,642 --> 00:53:51,909 That was so amazing. 1203 00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:55,047 But like, "Murphy!" 1204 00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:57,348 That was a moment that you will never forget, 1205 00:53:57,349 --> 00:54:00,084 you know, that people were so into the movie. 1206 00:54:00,085 --> 00:54:05,523 It was like this transformation from human to robot, 1207 00:54:05,524 --> 00:54:07,425 and back to human. 1208 00:54:07,426 --> 00:54:11,228 It lives because of its theme. 1209 00:54:11,229 --> 00:54:16,600 And the theme is executed right down the line, man. 1210 00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:19,905 And the theme is resurrection. 1211 00:54:25,143 --> 00:54:27,044 When the film was tested, 1212 00:54:27,045 --> 00:54:28,485 it was actually a fourth media break. 1213 00:54:28,847 --> 00:54:31,949 And there was a sequence in which Bixby Snyder 1214 00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:33,951 is arrested as a pedophile. 1215 00:54:33,952 --> 00:54:36,087 And Nancy Allen is in the hospital 1216 00:54:36,088 --> 00:54:38,789 being interviewed, having survived the shootout. 1217 00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:40,157 Excuse me, Your Honor. 1218 00:54:40,158 --> 00:54:43,160 Anne, ever consider another line of work? 1219 00:54:43,161 --> 00:54:45,464 No. I like being a cop. 1220 00:54:45,697 --> 00:54:48,699 Well, the original ending did have Anne Lewis saying, 1221 00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:50,568 "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." 1222 00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:52,303 It parrots something that you hear earlier in the film. 1223 00:54:52,304 --> 00:54:53,271 If you can't stand the heat, 1224 00:54:53,272 --> 00:54:54,615 you better stay out of the kitchen. 1225 00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:56,507 You know what they say. 1226 00:54:56,508 --> 00:54:59,877 If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. 1227 00:54:59,878 --> 00:55:00,878 I don't know about you, 1228 00:55:00,879 --> 00:55:02,614 but I'll sleep a little better tonight. 1229 00:55:02,881 --> 00:55:04,448 I saw the dailies. 1230 00:55:04,449 --> 00:55:06,317 I didn't really like it very much. 1231 00:55:06,318 --> 00:55:07,285 The audience always felt 1232 00:55:07,286 --> 00:55:09,520 that Murphy was the way to go out. 1233 00:55:09,521 --> 00:55:12,090 So, that fourth media break was never shown. 1234 00:55:12,324 --> 00:55:13,424 It was one of those things 1235 00:55:13,425 --> 00:55:15,192 where when I heard they weren't using it, 1236 00:55:15,193 --> 00:55:18,530 I was sort of relieved, because it just seemed so blah. 1237 00:55:18,763 --> 00:55:20,197 You bet! 1238 00:55:20,198 --> 00:55:23,101 Next time you see a cop, smile. Thanks for watching. 1239 00:55:26,538 --> 00:55:28,205 We were on a tight schedule. 1240 00:55:28,206 --> 00:55:31,008 I was done with RoboCop probably 10 days 1241 00:55:31,009 --> 00:55:32,276 after we finished shooting. 1242 00:55:32,277 --> 00:55:34,545 There wasn't like the four-hour cut of RoboCop. 1243 00:55:34,546 --> 00:55:37,214 There was the... If RoboCop's 114 minutes, 1244 00:55:37,215 --> 00:55:39,550 there was the 118-minute cut of RoboCop. 1245 00:55:39,551 --> 00:55:40,551 That was the rough. 1246 00:55:43,088 --> 00:55:46,991 First of all, I was all for it being a very violent movie. 1247 00:55:46,992 --> 00:55:50,094 I was interested in those ideas and Paul was, too. 1248 00:55:50,095 --> 00:55:51,096 And I was surprised 1249 00:55:51,329 --> 00:55:52,930 when we were even shooting these sequences. 1250 00:55:52,931 --> 00:55:54,131 I was thinking to myself, 1251 00:55:54,132 --> 00:55:55,699 "There's no way these are ever gonna make it. 1252 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:57,468 It's never gonna make it on screen." 1253 00:55:57,469 --> 00:56:00,304 I think Paul's idea was actually, "Push it 1254 00:56:00,305 --> 00:56:01,939 as far as you can push it, 1255 00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:03,300 and then we'll dial it back later." 1256 00:56:03,408 --> 00:56:05,776 If you can't push the envelope, 1257 00:56:05,777 --> 00:56:08,245 you know, don't write the letter. 1258 00:56:08,246 --> 00:56:11,183 We wanted to grab people by the throat, 1259 00:56:11,516 --> 00:56:13,351 and give 'em a good time and a real good ride. 1260 00:56:16,054 --> 00:56:17,321 Our biggest problem 1261 00:56:17,322 --> 00:56:20,524 on the editing of the movie was with the MPAA. 1262 00:56:20,525 --> 00:56:21,659 And so, we had to cut it, 1263 00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:23,961 and cut it, and cut it eight, nine times. 1264 00:56:23,962 --> 00:56:26,082 You know, we had to go back to back, back, back, back. 1265 00:56:26,231 --> 00:56:29,668 But that original version basically is really funny. 1266 00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:32,904 It's safe to say 1267 00:56:32,905 --> 00:56:34,738 the ratings board did not get the satire. 1268 00:56:34,739 --> 00:56:36,707 Of course, they gave us an X. 1269 00:56:36,708 --> 00:56:39,410 And so, we made a few trims, and sent it back, 1270 00:56:39,411 --> 00:56:40,911 and we got another X. 1271 00:56:40,912 --> 00:56:44,248 So, Paul went back in, and he kept cutting away 1272 00:56:44,249 --> 00:56:47,051 the shot where Peter Waller loses his hand, 1273 00:56:47,052 --> 00:56:48,586 because it was too graphic. 1274 00:56:48,587 --> 00:56:51,722 It was supposed to be so big, 1275 00:56:51,723 --> 00:56:56,026 so too much, that it in a way, lost its impact. 1276 00:56:56,027 --> 00:57:00,030 And the more you cut it down, the more real it became. 1277 00:57:00,031 --> 00:57:02,367 And somehow, those censors just didn't see that. 1278 00:57:02,701 --> 00:57:07,539 In a way, they made the violence worse for us as a viewer. 1279 00:57:07,772 --> 00:57:09,206 We had this one shot 1280 00:57:09,207 --> 00:57:10,708 where they shoot him in the head, 1281 00:57:10,709 --> 00:57:12,943 and it was a complete move right from his face, 1282 00:57:12,944 --> 00:57:14,479 all the way to the back of his head. 1283 00:57:15,647 --> 00:57:18,549 And the MPAA wouldn't allow me to use it. 1284 00:57:18,550 --> 00:57:21,185 I could only use the impact just from the front 1285 00:57:21,186 --> 00:57:23,754 and then the back. 1286 00:57:23,755 --> 00:57:26,056 And it probably was more violent doing it that way 1287 00:57:26,057 --> 00:57:27,758 than just showing the whole move. 1288 00:57:27,759 --> 00:57:28,792 There was a shot of the floor. 1289 00:57:28,793 --> 00:57:29,860 It was a wide shot. 1290 00:57:29,861 --> 00:57:31,262 And the floor was covered with blood. 1291 00:57:31,263 --> 00:57:32,663 It looked like a butcher shop floor. 1292 00:57:32,664 --> 00:57:35,666 In the first preview of it, 10 women got up 1293 00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:37,268 at that moment and left the... 1294 00:57:37,269 --> 00:57:38,829 The screening room. It was just amazing. 1295 00:57:41,206 --> 00:57:42,640 I think the first thing I realized 1296 00:57:42,641 --> 00:57:46,311 was red was a problem. Just red, the amount of red. 1297 00:57:47,779 --> 00:57:49,047 We had a preview, 1298 00:57:49,314 --> 00:57:52,683 and about the highest rated thing in the movie 1299 00:57:52,684 --> 00:57:54,953 was Emil getting hit by the car. 1300 00:57:57,322 --> 00:57:59,890 And the MPAA said, "Absolutely not. 1301 00:57:59,891 --> 00:58:02,893 You cannot have that. It's decapitation." 1302 00:58:02,894 --> 00:58:07,164 And God bless Mike Medavoy, because to his credit, he said, 1303 00:58:07,165 --> 00:58:09,266 "We are not cutting that shot. 1304 00:58:09,267 --> 00:58:12,102 We'll go to the mat with the MPAA on this. 1305 00:58:12,103 --> 00:58:13,371 We're not taking it out." 1306 00:58:15,140 --> 00:58:18,075 Jon Davison made the whole crew T-shirts. 1307 00:58:18,076 --> 00:58:20,444 One side would say "RoboCop," 1308 00:58:20,445 --> 00:58:23,514 and the other side would say, "Fuck the MPAA." 1309 00:58:23,515 --> 00:58:25,149 It was like, "Well, wait a minute. 1310 00:58:25,150 --> 00:58:27,185 If they wanna play games, we'll play some games." 1311 00:58:27,385 --> 00:58:29,486 Okay, okay. I get a kick out of it. 1312 00:58:29,487 --> 00:58:31,322 You end up wearing them down, you know? 1313 00:58:31,323 --> 00:58:33,257 You cut maybe a frame out. 1314 00:58:33,258 --> 00:58:34,958 But you keep sending the same stuff back 1315 00:58:34,959 --> 00:58:37,028 and they eventually give in. 1316 00:58:38,263 --> 00:58:39,263 They changed the rules 1317 00:58:39,264 --> 00:58:41,332 after that movie about how many times 1318 00:58:41,333 --> 00:58:42,701 you can submit a film. 1319 00:58:44,135 --> 00:58:45,369 There was a moment 1320 00:58:45,370 --> 00:58:47,805 in the cutting room where I remember Jon and Paul 1321 00:58:47,806 --> 00:58:50,407 immediately started getting into a fight 1322 00:58:50,408 --> 00:58:51,942 and Sol Lomita, who was the head 1323 00:58:51,943 --> 00:58:54,411 of post-production at Orion, who was a very tough guy, 1324 00:58:54,412 --> 00:58:55,979 starts yelling at Paul. 1325 00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:57,715 And Paul starts yelling back. 1326 00:58:57,716 --> 00:58:59,016 And I said, "Wait a second, guys. 1327 00:58:59,017 --> 00:59:00,884 What if we cut the arm out?" 1328 00:59:00,885 --> 00:59:02,386 Because I always thought it looked shitty anyway. 1329 00:59:02,387 --> 00:59:03,588 "Let's cut the arm out!" 1330 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,390 And they both looked at each other. 1331 00:59:06,391 --> 00:59:09,360 "Okay." And that was that. And then we sent it in. 1332 00:59:09,361 --> 00:59:12,197 And with the arm out of it, we got the R-rated. 1333 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,134 When I came back from this movie, 1334 00:59:17,135 --> 00:59:18,670 I just felt like I was dead. 1335 00:59:18,903 --> 00:59:22,073 It was a very challenging movie to work on. 1336 00:59:22,307 --> 00:59:24,542 Constant tension and... And conflict. 1337 00:59:24,743 --> 00:59:26,010 People were exhausted. 1338 00:59:26,244 --> 00:59:27,344 We had all had this terrible 1339 00:59:27,345 --> 00:59:29,413 rep party where everybody behaved badly. 1340 00:59:29,414 --> 00:59:31,448 And on the plane the next day, 1341 00:59:31,449 --> 00:59:32,969 there were people who hated each other, 1342 00:59:33,184 --> 00:59:35,586 but we were all so hung over that we couldn't even like... 1343 00:59:35,587 --> 00:59:37,155 It was just like... 1344 00:59:37,522 --> 00:59:39,556 You know, after finishing RoboCop, 1345 00:59:39,557 --> 00:59:41,892 I decided that I was going to go to the mountains 1346 00:59:41,893 --> 00:59:44,061 and raise ducks for the rest of my life. 1347 00:59:44,062 --> 00:59:46,097 It was that bad. 1348 00:59:49,534 --> 00:59:51,402 When the picture was about to come out, 1349 00:59:51,403 --> 00:59:53,871 the head of marketing at Orion Pictures said, 1350 00:59:53,872 --> 00:59:55,606 "I cannot market this movie. 1351 00:59:55,607 --> 00:59:58,743 It's impossible to m... to go out with a movie called 'RoboCop'." 1352 01:00:00,044 --> 01:00:03,347 RoboCop, mechanical body, human memory, 1353 01:00:03,348 --> 01:00:06,050 the ultimate law enforcement operative of the future. 1354 01:00:06,384 --> 01:00:07,352 RoboCop was scheduled 1355 01:00:07,353 --> 01:00:10,487 to come out, I think, after Labor Day. 1356 01:00:10,488 --> 01:00:12,824 And that summer, the big blockbusters 1357 01:00:13,024 --> 01:00:15,659 from the studios just didn't cut it. 1358 01:00:15,660 --> 01:00:17,561 And it turned out, there were slots 1359 01:00:17,562 --> 01:00:19,229 that became open. 1360 01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:21,732 Orion didn't have much of a budget for marketing. 1361 01:00:21,733 --> 01:00:24,235 It was a small... you know, it was a low-budget picture. 1362 01:00:24,636 --> 01:00:27,237 And I said, "Don't position it against something, 1363 01:00:27,238 --> 01:00:28,839 you know, that's going to be bigger." 1364 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,160 So, they put it out in the summer. 1365 01:00:31,676 --> 01:00:34,778 RoboCop, the future of law enforcement, rated R. 1366 01:00:34,779 --> 01:00:38,283 Starts Friday, July 17th at a theater near you. 1367 01:00:38,583 --> 01:00:40,819 Orion made a trailer, and it was pretty terrible. 1368 01:00:41,052 --> 01:00:43,120 The summer's new superhero 1369 01:00:43,121 --> 01:00:46,490 is America's new super hit movie. 1370 01:00:46,491 --> 01:00:47,658 RoboCop. 1371 01:00:47,659 --> 01:00:48,792 I really love that guy. 1372 01:00:48,793 --> 01:00:49,961 Rated R. 1373 01:00:50,295 --> 01:00:53,630 And so, I hired a friend of mine, Miller Drake, 1374 01:00:53,631 --> 01:00:56,433 from the New World Trailer Department. 1375 01:00:56,434 --> 01:00:58,469 And he came in, and spent a week, 1376 01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:59,938 and cut the trailer. 1377 01:01:01,306 --> 01:01:03,274 It is my great pleasure to present to you... 1378 01:01:05,543 --> 01:01:06,543 RoboCop. 1379 01:01:08,713 --> 01:01:10,982 Orion Pictures was putting together a trailer. 1380 01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:14,618 And they didn't have any music from our movie yet, 1381 01:01:14,619 --> 01:01:16,099 because the music hadn't been written. 1382 01:01:16,488 --> 01:01:19,623 - Let the woman go. - You are under arrest. 1383 01:01:19,624 --> 01:01:21,291 So, they utilized 1384 01:01:21,292 --> 01:01:23,894 Brad Fiedel's score from Terminator. 1385 01:01:23,895 --> 01:01:25,330 You have the right to remain silent. 1386 01:01:27,632 --> 01:01:28,952 You have the right to an attorney. 1387 01:01:29,167 --> 01:01:31,469 What is this? 1388 01:01:31,703 --> 01:01:34,372 It's not a great trailer, but it's an awful lot better. 1389 01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:37,007 "The future of law enforcement. 1390 01:01:37,008 --> 01:01:38,008 RoboCop." 1391 01:01:40,578 --> 01:01:43,915 RoboCop, the future of law enforcement. 1392 01:01:45,116 --> 01:01:46,583 And of course, 1393 01:01:46,584 --> 01:01:48,218 when it was accepted, it seemed like, 1394 01:01:48,219 --> 01:01:50,387 "Well, what other title could there be?" You know? 1395 01:01:50,388 --> 01:01:52,556 It is a perfect title in a way, because it tells you 1396 01:01:52,557 --> 01:01:53,892 exactly what the movie is. 1397 01:01:54,292 --> 01:01:56,693 I was told I was almost gonna be the poster for the movie, 1398 01:01:56,694 --> 01:01:58,562 because my character with the machine gun 1399 01:01:58,563 --> 01:02:00,197 being pulled through the wall, 1400 01:02:00,198 --> 01:02:01,932 with the two RoboCop arms sticking through 1401 01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:03,600 was quite a photograph. 1402 01:02:03,601 --> 01:02:05,769 So, it was one of two or three that they were considering, 1403 01:02:05,770 --> 01:02:07,050 but they went with the right one. 1404 01:02:11,409 --> 01:02:14,478 They managed to come up with an iconic shot, 1405 01:02:14,479 --> 01:02:17,514 which is Robo getting out of the cruiser. 1406 01:02:17,515 --> 01:02:19,050 "Part man, part machine, all cop." 1407 01:02:24,155 --> 01:02:27,224 And that was actually a still that was done 1408 01:02:27,225 --> 01:02:30,527 by the on-still photographer named Deana Newcomb. 1409 01:02:30,528 --> 01:02:33,163 And they just essentially, what we would now call, 1410 01:02:33,164 --> 01:02:34,164 "photoshopped it". 1411 01:02:35,633 --> 01:02:37,235 That became the iconic image. 1412 01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:44,775 And it's become an iconic poster. 1413 01:02:44,776 --> 01:02:47,110 Somebody came up with the ad thing on the... on the poster, 1414 01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:50,647 and said, "This cop don't stop at no donut shop." 1415 01:02:50,648 --> 01:02:52,416 One of the great marketing things ever. 1416 01:02:52,417 --> 01:02:55,052 I thought it would have a very limited audience. 1417 01:02:55,053 --> 01:02:56,386 I thought, "It's so strange. 1418 01:02:56,387 --> 01:02:58,522 It's so different than anything." 1419 01:02:58,523 --> 01:03:01,726 And I thought, "This is just not gonna work on a large scale." 1420 01:03:04,729 --> 01:03:05,663 Then the premiere 1421 01:03:05,664 --> 01:03:08,666 at the Academy Theater, 900 people, 1422 01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:11,002 my family in the audience. Wow. 1423 01:03:11,202 --> 01:03:12,669 We went to the premiere, 1424 01:03:12,670 --> 01:03:16,106 and I... I thought the movie was fantastic. 1425 01:03:16,107 --> 01:03:17,541 I just thought it was great. 1426 01:03:17,542 --> 01:03:19,944 You know, "here I am in like the place 1427 01:03:20,278 --> 01:03:22,447 in Hollywood show business. 1428 01:03:22,814 --> 01:03:23,915 Wow, man!" 1429 01:03:28,953 --> 01:03:32,323 I mean, it came out in July of '87, and people loved it. 1430 01:03:32,557 --> 01:03:34,625 Everybody loves RoboCop. 1431 01:03:34,626 --> 01:03:35,759 Holy shit! 1432 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,228 We got a monster hit here. 1433 01:03:38,696 --> 01:03:41,232 RoboCop, two thumbs up. 1434 01:03:41,766 --> 01:03:43,233 RoboCop is a wonderfully funny, 1435 01:03:43,234 --> 01:03:46,004 inventive, and agreeably violent piece of science fiction. 1436 01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:47,404 And I can't remember the last time 1437 01:03:47,405 --> 01:03:48,973 I put all those adjectives together. 1438 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,808 Newsweek calls it, "Slick, lively. 1439 01:03:51,809 --> 01:03:53,577 Audiences will eat it up." 1440 01:03:53,578 --> 01:03:54,778 - Wow. - Wow. 1441 01:03:54,779 --> 01:03:56,019 Wow. This is something special. 1442 01:03:56,347 --> 01:04:00,118 It opened to such a huge box office and a reception 1443 01:04:00,485 --> 01:04:01,762 from you know, across the board. 1444 01:04:01,786 --> 01:04:03,453 I don't think anybody knew 1445 01:04:03,454 --> 01:04:05,689 that it was gonna be as big as it was. 1446 01:04:05,690 --> 01:04:07,124 It was so fantastic. 1447 01:04:07,125 --> 01:04:10,127 I had never seen that in my life, you know? 1448 01:04:10,128 --> 01:04:12,830 The day I saw the film, it was lightning in a bottle. 1449 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:19,069 He's a stainless steel, unstoppable Clint Eastwood. 1450 01:04:19,070 --> 01:04:21,171 I think you should run to see this movie. 1451 01:04:21,172 --> 01:04:22,339 And not only because I'm in it, 1452 01:04:22,340 --> 01:04:23,874 but because, well, we'll talk about it later. 1453 01:04:23,875 --> 01:04:24,875 Go see it. 1454 01:04:25,076 --> 01:04:27,077 I will. 1455 01:04:27,078 --> 01:04:28,311 There's a new guy in town. 1456 01:04:28,312 --> 01:04:31,014 Wow. This is different than anything I'd ever seen. 1457 01:04:31,015 --> 01:04:32,282 His name's RoboCop. 1458 01:04:32,283 --> 01:04:33,350 It was really something, 1459 01:04:33,351 --> 01:04:34,711 and pretty impactful on the public. 1460 01:04:34,819 --> 01:04:36,820 People saw it, and they wanted to see it again. 1461 01:04:36,821 --> 01:04:38,056 - RoboCop. - RoboCop. 1462 01:04:38,289 --> 01:04:39,924 Oh, yeah, RoboCop! That's so cool. 1463 01:04:41,726 --> 01:04:44,728 People thought that movie was off the chart. 1464 01:04:44,729 --> 01:04:46,763 The tone, everything, the humor. 1465 01:04:46,764 --> 01:04:48,699 RoboCop is dead-on! 1466 01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:51,002 Both as a thriller and an unexpected comedy. 1467 01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:54,237 Truly, it's an interesting story 1468 01:04:54,238 --> 01:04:56,640 and it has a lot of depth to it, but just on an action, 1469 01:04:56,641 --> 01:04:58,775 you know, shoot 'em up, and blow it up, 1470 01:04:58,776 --> 01:05:00,544 and bloody it up. 1471 01:05:00,545 --> 01:05:04,114 You know, just on a popcorn, crazy summer movie level, 1472 01:05:04,115 --> 01:05:05,582 it works on that, too. 1473 01:05:05,583 --> 01:05:07,184 The movie has a lot of high-tech special effects. 1474 01:05:07,185 --> 01:05:09,019 It's an effective summer thriller. 1475 01:05:09,020 --> 01:05:10,188 I enjoyed it. 1476 01:05:11,756 --> 01:05:14,324 When I left the theater, I felt sick to my stomach. 1477 01:05:14,325 --> 01:05:15,492 I couldn't believe what I'd seen. 1478 01:05:15,493 --> 01:05:17,561 I had no idea working on it that that film 1479 01:05:17,562 --> 01:05:18,862 was gonna be what it was. 1480 01:05:18,863 --> 01:05:20,530 Like, takes your viscera, 1481 01:05:20,531 --> 01:05:22,699 and makes you feel part of the deal. 1482 01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:24,568 It has some guts to it. 1483 01:05:24,569 --> 01:05:25,929 And I think that's because of Paul. 1484 01:05:26,104 --> 01:05:28,071 A lot of people deserve credit for this film. 1485 01:05:28,072 --> 01:05:30,273 The foremost, I guess, is the highly regarded 1486 01:05:30,274 --> 01:05:31,676 Dutch director Paul Verhoeven. 1487 01:05:31,976 --> 01:05:33,744 We were kind of like dumbfounded 1488 01:05:33,745 --> 01:05:35,946 that, "Wow. So, that's what Paul was... 1489 01:05:35,947 --> 01:05:37,114 Was doing." 1490 01:05:37,115 --> 01:05:38,381 And Verhoeven, you know, 1491 01:05:38,382 --> 01:05:40,684 as difficult as he was to work with, 1492 01:05:40,685 --> 01:05:42,152 you know, he had a vision of what he wanted, 1493 01:05:42,153 --> 01:05:43,588 and he got his movie. 1494 01:05:45,723 --> 01:05:47,524 We went to a restaurant 1495 01:05:47,525 --> 01:05:49,993 opposite to the theater in Westwood, 1496 01:05:49,994 --> 01:05:53,364 and we're sitting there, and then saw this line of people 1497 01:05:53,698 --> 01:05:54,865 that went like this, 1498 01:05:54,866 --> 01:05:57,467 and they go on the streets, and then the side street, 1499 01:05:57,468 --> 01:05:58,770 and around the corner. 1500 01:05:59,003 --> 01:06:01,772 But seeing them going, I mean, you don't see 1501 01:06:01,773 --> 01:06:03,840 that much anymore this way. 1502 01:06:03,841 --> 01:06:05,709 It was a success, because the budget 1503 01:06:05,710 --> 01:06:08,111 was 13, and it made 120 or something 1504 01:06:08,112 --> 01:06:09,247 in the world, you know? 1505 01:06:09,614 --> 01:06:11,494 So, I'm still getting money from them, you know? 1506 01:06:11,549 --> 01:06:13,183 I owned half the movie, 1507 01:06:13,184 --> 01:06:17,621 and I gave pieces of it to 13 or 15 people 1508 01:06:17,622 --> 01:06:19,156 that worked on the picture. 1509 01:06:19,157 --> 01:06:22,459 And to this very day, we're still getting checks. 1510 01:06:22,460 --> 01:06:25,596 Still get some very decent residual checks from RoboCop. 1511 01:06:25,930 --> 01:06:28,198 "Hey, man. Did you get the last residual check?" 1512 01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:30,468 "Yeah, I got it." "All right!" 1513 01:06:32,336 --> 01:06:33,470 That'll give you an idea 1514 01:06:33,471 --> 01:06:36,106 of how popular that movie was and still is. 1515 01:06:36,107 --> 01:06:37,607 People stopping you on the street 1516 01:06:37,608 --> 01:06:39,609 and asking you to do the laugh. 1517 01:06:39,610 --> 01:06:41,611 You get the laundry, folding your clothes, 1518 01:06:41,612 --> 01:06:43,280 and say, "Man, do that laugh! Man, do that laugh." 1519 01:06:43,281 --> 01:06:44,816 I'm like, "I can't do that laugh." 1520 01:06:47,018 --> 01:06:48,585 People have said to me, 1521 01:06:48,586 --> 01:06:51,154 "Hey yeah, RoboCop." I say, "Yeah, yeah." 1522 01:06:51,155 --> 01:06:52,189 Mm! 1523 01:06:52,190 --> 01:06:55,158 Tastes like baby food. 1524 01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:56,793 Tastes like baby food. 1525 01:06:56,794 --> 01:06:58,762 That's the one line they never forget. 1526 01:06:58,763 --> 01:06:59,797 Knock yourself out. 1527 01:06:59,997 --> 01:07:02,165 It changed the world for me. And I can tell you, 1528 01:07:02,166 --> 01:07:04,135 I got out of two speeding tickets because of it. 1529 01:07:05,369 --> 01:07:06,903 Motorcycle cop pulls me over. 1530 01:07:06,904 --> 01:07:09,439 He goes, "License and registration." 1531 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,541 Flips up his shades. 1532 01:07:11,542 --> 01:07:13,877 "RoboCop, get the fuck out of here." 1533 01:07:13,878 --> 01:07:15,245 "Have you ever seen RoboCop?" 1534 01:07:15,246 --> 01:07:17,014 And of course, right there, the beat. 1535 01:07:18,082 --> 01:07:19,683 "We have it on a loop in the station. 1536 01:07:19,684 --> 01:07:21,318 We watch it all the time!" 1537 01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:23,279 We got onto that subject and off that ticket went. 1538 01:07:25,089 --> 01:07:26,656 My friend's son was like, "Oh, yeah. 1539 01:07:26,657 --> 01:07:28,625 At college, we all watch RoboCop like every weekend. 1540 01:07:28,626 --> 01:07:29,993 I went, "You do?" 1541 01:07:29,994 --> 01:07:31,728 He goes, "Yeah." He goes, "And you? 1542 01:07:31,729 --> 01:07:33,698 Everybody knows you. You're like the coke whore." 1543 01:07:33,998 --> 01:07:35,533 I said, "I think I was a model." 1544 01:07:37,168 --> 01:07:38,802 The thing that is most interesting to me 1545 01:07:38,803 --> 01:07:41,004 about all of this and I could not have predicted it, 1546 01:07:41,005 --> 01:07:42,372 but I couldn't be more pleased, 1547 01:07:42,373 --> 01:07:46,042 is that this is somehow like this cultural thing 1548 01:07:46,043 --> 01:07:48,678 that young men particularly, but some young women, too, 1549 01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:49,679 really embrace. 1550 01:07:50,815 --> 01:07:52,249 I'm always amazed 1551 01:07:52,250 --> 01:07:54,051 when people come up to me, and say, 1552 01:07:54,352 --> 01:07:57,588 "My dad took me to see that movie 1553 01:07:58,122 --> 01:08:00,590 when I was 8 years old, and it changed my life." 1554 01:08:00,591 --> 01:08:02,559 And I thought to myself, 1555 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,895 "Why would your dad 1556 01:08:04,896 --> 01:08:07,364 - take you to see that movie?" - I don't know. 1557 01:08:07,365 --> 01:08:09,065 "I saw it, and I was way too young." 1558 01:08:09,066 --> 01:08:10,667 And you know... 1559 01:08:10,668 --> 01:08:12,646 And "My brother took me there and I shouldn't have seen it." 1560 01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:14,304 "Oh, I saw this movie when I was 8," 1561 01:08:14,305 --> 01:08:15,605 or "I saw this movie," and I thought, 1562 01:08:15,606 --> 01:08:16,706 "Where were the parents? 1563 01:08:16,707 --> 01:08:18,075 You know, what was going on there?" 1564 01:08:18,509 --> 01:08:20,210 Murphy. 1565 01:08:20,211 --> 01:08:24,381 It's a wonder you're not, you know, a complete serial killer 1566 01:08:24,382 --> 01:08:26,217 or something. I mean, God! 1567 01:08:26,417 --> 01:08:28,452 And it's almost... It becomes a rite of passage, 1568 01:08:28,753 --> 01:08:29,854 and kids would sneak off 1569 01:08:30,254 --> 01:08:31,621 to see it at other people's houses. 1570 01:08:31,622 --> 01:08:35,425 "My uncle sneaked me in and let me watch his VHS. 1571 01:08:35,426 --> 01:08:37,727 And it was cool!" "This is my favorite movie. 1572 01:08:37,728 --> 01:08:39,229 - Don't tell your mom." - This is, sort of, 1573 01:08:39,230 --> 01:08:42,532 their touchstone film in lots of ways. 1574 01:08:42,533 --> 01:08:44,534 It tapped into your, sort of, sense 1575 01:08:44,535 --> 01:08:46,803 of... of absurdity. 1576 01:08:46,804 --> 01:08:48,405 It was all the makeup, 1577 01:08:48,406 --> 01:08:51,741 and the faces dissolving, and guns firing. 1578 01:08:51,742 --> 01:08:55,412 You know, it's that hardwired of the charge of it all, 1579 01:08:55,413 --> 01:08:57,581 you know, and the fascination with it all. 1580 01:08:57,815 --> 01:08:59,450 I showed my kids, 1581 01:08:59,951 --> 01:09:02,285 and they thought ED-209 was kind of funny. 1582 01:09:02,286 --> 01:09:04,421 And I'm like, "What's wrong with you?" 1583 01:09:04,422 --> 01:09:06,957 So, I took 'em out of the will, I kicked them out of the house. 1584 01:09:06,958 --> 01:09:08,425 Kids, look up to him. 1585 01:09:08,426 --> 01:09:09,627 Stay out of trouble. 1586 01:09:09,961 --> 01:09:13,163 I think as long as in a violent film, there's a hero 1587 01:09:13,164 --> 01:09:17,968 that's a good role model for kids, then you know, 1588 01:09:17,969 --> 01:09:19,903 it's got to be okay. 1589 01:09:19,904 --> 01:09:21,504 Can you do that, Dad? 1590 01:09:21,505 --> 01:09:22,739 There's an interesting thing about 1591 01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:24,642 action films and action characters 1592 01:09:25,042 --> 01:09:27,177 that are horrifically violent. 1593 01:09:27,178 --> 01:09:28,611 And then the fallout 1594 01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:33,751 of the film begs to the commercial world dolls. 1595 01:09:33,985 --> 01:09:35,752 Drop it! 1596 01:09:35,753 --> 01:09:38,321 RoboCop and the Ultra Police, each sold separately. 1597 01:09:38,322 --> 01:09:39,991 Criminals, give up. 1598 01:09:40,291 --> 01:09:42,659 I didn't expect all of the merchandising. 1599 01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:43,960 That was a surprise. 1600 01:09:43,961 --> 01:09:46,229 RoboCop and evil ED-260 1601 01:09:46,230 --> 01:09:48,631 face off with rapid repeat cap firing. 1602 01:09:48,632 --> 01:09:50,634 I mean, RoboCop, right? 1603 01:09:50,868 --> 01:09:55,472 So, the kids want RoboCop costume, you know, and stuff. 1604 01:09:55,473 --> 01:09:56,873 What do you expect from the studios? 1605 01:09:57,008 --> 01:10:01,144 The helmet, the look, the power of RoboCop. 1606 01:10:01,145 --> 01:10:02,979 The idea of RoboCop 1607 01:10:02,980 --> 01:10:06,149 appealing to kids and everything didn't surprise me in the least. 1608 01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:07,851 I expected it. 1609 01:10:07,852 --> 01:10:09,820 I went, "Wow. This is a comic book film. 1610 01:10:10,087 --> 01:10:11,621 There's no comic book." 1611 01:10:11,622 --> 01:10:14,391 And then I think Marvel did the comic after. 1612 01:10:14,392 --> 01:10:15,493 And it was just a natural. 1613 01:10:17,962 --> 01:10:21,564 Well, the audience for the comic was never really very clear. 1614 01:10:21,565 --> 01:10:23,433 I think it was clearly... 1615 01:10:23,434 --> 01:10:25,735 It had to be for younger age group. 1616 01:10:25,736 --> 01:10:27,971 Although, I was never really totally certain why, 1617 01:10:27,972 --> 01:10:30,040 because actually most comic books, 1618 01:10:30,041 --> 01:10:32,709 certainly by then, were for late teenagers, 1619 01:10:32,710 --> 01:10:34,044 early 20s. 1620 01:10:34,045 --> 01:10:35,446 But you could tell that the stories 1621 01:10:35,646 --> 01:10:37,747 were starting to go in a direction 1622 01:10:37,748 --> 01:10:41,117 that you might expect a good continuation 1623 01:10:41,118 --> 01:10:43,587 of the movie to be coming up with. 1624 01:10:43,821 --> 01:10:46,122 You still couldn't show people's heads being blown off 1625 01:10:46,123 --> 01:10:47,390 or anything like that. 1626 01:10:47,391 --> 01:10:49,659 Actually, to my relief, because the older I get, 1627 01:10:49,660 --> 01:10:50,828 the more squeamish I get. 1628 01:10:52,863 --> 01:10:54,431 It was fantastic seeing RoboCop 1629 01:10:54,432 --> 01:10:56,266 come out in all these different iterations, 1630 01:10:56,267 --> 01:10:57,467 the games, the toys, you know? 1631 01:10:57,468 --> 01:10:59,069 I mean, I like to buy 'em. 1632 01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:01,038 I must have put $100 worth of quarters 1633 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,540 into uh, that machine. 1634 01:11:03,541 --> 01:11:05,442 Don't move, creep! 1635 01:11:05,443 --> 01:11:06,443 It was bitchin'. 1636 01:11:10,781 --> 01:11:12,450 Thank you for your cooperation. 1637 01:11:12,917 --> 01:11:14,384 After being mortally wounded 1638 01:11:14,385 --> 01:11:16,954 in the line of duty, Officer Murphy is outfitted 1639 01:11:17,388 --> 01:11:20,758 by OCP with bulletproof titanium robotic parts. 1640 01:11:21,225 --> 01:11:22,345 When it came to the cartoons 1641 01:11:22,426 --> 01:11:24,694 and all that stuff, you know, that stuff wasn't anywhere 1642 01:11:24,695 --> 01:11:26,497 near as violent as the feature. 1643 01:11:26,864 --> 01:11:29,733 He has become the ultimate super cop. 1644 01:11:30,901 --> 01:11:31,936 RoboCop. 1645 01:11:33,704 --> 01:11:35,973 And I was very impressed with the guy who played my part. 1646 01:11:36,407 --> 01:11:39,976 I bet you don't think I'm a very nice person. 1647 01:11:39,977 --> 01:11:41,512 I think you're scum. 1648 01:11:43,047 --> 01:11:44,514 It just blew their little minds. 1649 01:11:44,515 --> 01:11:46,616 It's okay, Murphy. 1650 01:11:46,617 --> 01:11:48,352 It's me, Lewis. 1651 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,840 So, it was fun. You know, it's fun to be part of that. 1652 01:11:53,290 --> 01:11:54,924 You will have a time as a child, 1653 01:11:54,925 --> 01:11:57,727 where you'll see a picture which will shape you 1654 01:11:57,728 --> 01:11:58,796 the rest of your life. 1655 01:11:59,163 --> 01:12:01,998 It gets into your head and into your heart as a child, 1656 01:12:01,999 --> 01:12:04,200 and it becomes a loved thing. 1657 01:12:04,201 --> 01:12:06,803 And it really has a power and a motive force 1658 01:12:06,804 --> 01:12:07,804 the rest of your life. 1659 01:12:09,673 --> 01:12:11,809 One of the most remarkable things is that 1660 01:12:12,343 --> 01:12:16,279 a mom came up to me, my age, with a kid 1661 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,282 in his 40s, and he said he was on the wrong side 1662 01:12:19,283 --> 01:12:21,217 of the law when he was 12. 1663 01:12:21,218 --> 01:12:23,553 And his mom showed him RoboCop. 1664 01:12:23,554 --> 01:12:25,823 He says, "I saw RoboCop, and I wanna be a cop. 1665 01:12:26,190 --> 01:12:28,992 I left my friends," changed his playground, 1666 01:12:28,993 --> 01:12:30,627 and became this cop, man. 1667 01:12:30,628 --> 01:12:34,130 That's a service that I can never dream 1668 01:12:34,131 --> 01:12:37,167 that any movie would do or be of, 1669 01:12:37,168 --> 01:12:38,836 is that change a guy's life. 1670 01:12:40,638 --> 01:12:41,804 I know that Ed and I, 1671 01:12:41,805 --> 01:12:44,408 we talked for a moment about the sequel, 1672 01:12:44,875 --> 01:12:48,011 but I think the studio felt that we were not fast enough 1673 01:12:48,012 --> 01:12:49,812 and went other ways. 1674 01:12:49,813 --> 01:12:51,948 Orion was in financial trouble. 1675 01:12:51,949 --> 01:12:53,483 Because it was successful, 1676 01:12:53,484 --> 01:12:55,653 they immediately wanted to do another one. 1677 01:12:57,188 --> 01:12:58,222 Taking over, creep. 1678 01:13:01,992 --> 01:13:03,994 The misfire of the sequel, 1679 01:13:04,195 --> 01:13:07,197 and then number three was just horrible. 1680 01:13:07,198 --> 01:13:08,865 He's taking the future. 1681 01:13:08,866 --> 01:13:10,500 What in the name... 1682 01:13:10,501 --> 01:13:12,870 And giving it back to the people. 1683 01:13:14,371 --> 01:13:16,372 RoboCop 3. 1684 01:13:16,373 --> 01:13:19,210 But that's more aimed at children to make it PG-13. 1685 01:13:19,410 --> 01:13:21,611 So, then more people would come. 1686 01:13:21,612 --> 01:13:23,446 And some people like 2. 1687 01:13:23,447 --> 01:13:25,348 I don't know too many people who like 3. 1688 01:13:25,349 --> 01:13:26,616 You know, it set the stage 1689 01:13:26,617 --> 01:13:28,284 for the rest of 'em, but they always say 1690 01:13:28,285 --> 01:13:29,420 the first one's the best. 1691 01:13:29,753 --> 01:13:31,921 There's that first flash when you get hit in the face, 1692 01:13:31,922 --> 01:13:33,356 and that was probably what the first movie was. 1693 01:13:33,357 --> 01:13:35,117 And then everything else was just body shots. 1694 01:13:39,096 --> 01:13:41,464 In the time since that film has come out, 1695 01:13:41,465 --> 01:13:44,033 it's grown a massive following. 1696 01:13:44,034 --> 01:13:46,603 It's really difficult to get a movie that works everywhere, 1697 01:13:46,604 --> 01:13:48,538 and RoboCop works everywhere. 1698 01:13:48,539 --> 01:13:50,173 And it's still popular to this day. 1699 01:13:50,174 --> 01:13:51,175 The success of RoboCop 1700 01:13:51,575 --> 01:13:54,044 is more basically that it's still there now 1701 01:13:54,311 --> 01:13:56,580 than that it was such a big success. That... 1702 01:13:59,550 --> 01:14:02,552 The idea of landing a superhero 1703 01:14:02,553 --> 01:14:06,089 within the consciousness of Western civilization, 1704 01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:07,890 I feel very lucky to have been a part of that. 1705 01:14:10,394 --> 01:14:11,895 RoboCop predicted, 1706 01:14:12,129 --> 01:14:15,198 sort of, the decadence of what our media is like today, 1707 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:16,866 I think, and... and our politics. 1708 01:14:16,867 --> 01:14:18,201 You better be careful, man. 1709 01:14:18,202 --> 01:14:20,870 - I hear Jones is a real shark. - Who asked you, twerp? 1710 01:14:20,871 --> 01:14:22,273 We were so on target. 1711 01:14:24,041 --> 01:14:25,441 The movie is so precise, 1712 01:14:25,442 --> 01:14:27,744 and there is really nothing in the movie 1713 01:14:27,745 --> 01:14:29,513 that I would say that was not good. 1714 01:14:29,913 --> 01:14:31,114 There are parallels 1715 01:14:31,115 --> 01:14:34,350 you can draw to our... Our daily political life, 1716 01:14:34,351 --> 01:14:36,452 our daily social life. 1717 01:14:36,453 --> 01:14:38,621 There are aspects of it that are still true today 1718 01:14:38,622 --> 01:14:41,892 and becoming more true every day. 1719 01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:43,327 It also forecast 1720 01:14:43,328 --> 01:14:44,928 the militarization of the police, 1721 01:14:45,296 --> 01:14:46,796 how the police are all decked out 1722 01:14:46,797 --> 01:14:48,699 in these body armor and kevlar vests, 1723 01:14:49,099 --> 01:14:51,502 and they have this massive military presence. 1724 01:14:52,136 --> 01:14:53,936 Halt it! 1725 01:14:53,937 --> 01:14:55,471 Violence is on the rise, 1726 01:14:55,472 --> 01:14:58,775 citizens are defenseless, the businesses are corrupt, 1727 01:14:58,776 --> 01:15:00,544 people build big products that don't work. 1728 01:15:03,013 --> 01:15:06,282 And now, we have robots taking over all kinds of jobs. 1729 01:15:06,283 --> 01:15:09,018 So, it's become more of a reality than ever. 1730 01:15:09,019 --> 01:15:10,721 And all of that, unfortunately, 1731 01:15:11,088 --> 01:15:14,023 and alas, has now gone up a whole order of magnitude 1732 01:15:14,024 --> 01:15:16,192 in today's society. 1733 01:15:16,193 --> 01:15:17,627 It's prophetic. 1734 01:15:17,628 --> 01:15:18,961 I think we made a joke 1735 01:15:18,962 --> 01:15:21,631 about human nature, and politics, and society, 1736 01:15:21,632 --> 01:15:24,567 and we had, sort of, a snapshot we created. 1737 01:15:24,568 --> 01:15:27,503 It's about the American tragedy, 1738 01:15:27,504 --> 01:15:30,341 and that's the legacy of the classic. 1739 01:15:30,541 --> 01:15:32,976 The first glance, it's about this. 1740 01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:36,347 Second glance, it's about something much more profound. 1741 01:15:38,949 --> 01:15:41,951 Looking back on RoboCop, 1742 01:15:41,952 --> 01:15:45,589 what really sticks with me is a lesson. 1743 01:15:45,956 --> 01:15:48,559 Time heals all pain. 1744 01:15:48,859 --> 01:15:50,860 The crew got thrown together 1745 01:15:50,861 --> 01:15:54,365 in this big cauldron with this great story. 1746 01:15:54,765 --> 01:15:58,000 Ed Neumeier and Michael Miner, the writers, were brilliant. 1747 01:15:58,001 --> 01:16:01,337 Add to that a brilliant director. 1748 01:16:01,338 --> 01:16:03,206 RoboCop was a miracle. 1749 01:16:03,207 --> 01:16:06,509 It was the right people at the right time 1750 01:16:06,510 --> 01:16:09,179 coming together to make something different. 1751 01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:11,447 I think what plays a part here 1752 01:16:11,448 --> 01:16:14,617 is my relying on intuition and not knowing. 1753 01:16:14,618 --> 01:16:18,054 I think that RoboCop is the best movie I made. 1754 01:16:18,055 --> 01:16:19,055 Drop it! 1755 01:16:23,527 --> 01:16:24,761 The '80s just happened 1756 01:16:24,762 --> 01:16:27,930 to be a time when Hollywood had finally discovered 1757 01:16:27,931 --> 01:16:30,801 that they could make A movies out of B movies, 1758 01:16:31,001 --> 01:16:33,069 and they just went wild with it. 1759 01:16:33,070 --> 01:16:34,938 Who are you? 1760 01:16:35,172 --> 01:16:36,205 Being in RoboCop 1761 01:16:36,206 --> 01:16:39,276 is like being in a little time capsule, 1762 01:16:39,476 --> 01:16:41,277 just a super cool, 1763 01:16:41,278 --> 01:16:43,614 frozen-in-time pop culture moment. 1764 01:16:44,815 --> 01:16:46,249 We get lucky, 1765 01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:48,918 and we get to work on a show now and again that resonates 1766 01:16:48,919 --> 01:16:51,422 and has some relevance beyond just the entertainment. 1767 01:16:51,655 --> 01:16:54,057 The Tigers are playing tonight. 1768 01:16:54,391 --> 01:16:56,726 I'm proud of the reaction 1769 01:16:56,727 --> 01:17:00,463 that I've had to my work in RoboCop, 1770 01:17:00,464 --> 01:17:02,899 to know that you've had an effect on people. 1771 01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:03,900 It's pleasing to me. 1772 01:17:03,901 --> 01:17:06,068 Wow! I can't believe it. 1773 01:17:06,069 --> 01:17:10,274 It has made such an impact on people for so long. 1774 01:17:12,209 --> 01:17:13,910 I think every successive generation 1775 01:17:13,911 --> 01:17:15,212 discovers it for themselves, 1776 01:17:15,512 --> 01:17:18,448 and it becomes a whole new thing all over again. 1777 01:17:18,449 --> 01:17:19,949 The thing that has sustained it, 1778 01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:22,585 I think, through the years is the fact 1779 01:17:22,586 --> 01:17:23,830 that there is a heart and soul to it. 1780 01:17:23,854 --> 01:17:25,856 Murphy, it's you. 1781 01:17:26,223 --> 01:17:30,059 I also think there's a sort of an optimism in it also, 1782 01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:32,628 which says "We'll go on somehow, you know? 1783 01:17:32,629 --> 01:17:33,963 We'll bumble along. 1784 01:17:33,964 --> 01:17:36,266 And some people will be fools, but somehow, 1785 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,167 right will prevail." 1786 01:17:38,168 --> 01:17:41,270 And in some ways, RoboCop stands in for that. 1787 01:17:41,271 --> 01:17:42,805 Your move, creep. 1788 01:17:42,806 --> 01:17:44,408 He is that character 1789 01:17:44,608 --> 01:17:46,676 that will take us through, that says, 1790 01:17:46,677 --> 01:17:50,681 "We can cope with these changes of technology or politics." 1791 01:17:52,115 --> 01:17:53,983 I am proud to have been part of it, 1792 01:17:53,984 --> 01:17:55,953 and it is unique, and that's why it lives. 1793 01:17:56,286 --> 01:17:58,188 - Dead or alive... - You are coming with me. 1794 01:17:58,422 --> 01:18:00,791 And there's a punch in the face 1795 01:18:01,425 --> 01:18:03,093 and the heart with RoboCop. 1796 01:18:03,327 --> 01:18:06,362 About your world now that'll be resonant 1797 01:18:06,363 --> 01:18:08,264 for a long time to come. 1798 01:18:08,265 --> 01:18:11,368 Thank you for your cooperation. 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