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[Lars] Who knew that he was coming in to testify?

There were some deaths in the Netherlands and your name has come up quite a bit.

I need to know where the tip about Heezink came from.

- What, now? - That you've spoken with the press.

[Juul] I'd prefer to stay anonymous.

Ed Koppers and I are like this.

It'd be very difficult to drive the two of us apart.

CV Edelweiss in Guernsey has an address in the Netherlands.

[grunting]

- [Rutger] Offer's still on the table. - OK. I'll, uh... I'll think about it.

What are you up to now? Were you going through my stuff?

Also, it's possible Marcus told Koppers earlier that Rob was testifying today.

[Sylvia] If Marcus isn't the guy...

- His father-in-law was there. - Oscar, he's a great guy.

How do you think Marcus got that job?

INTERROGATION ROOM-1 22:23:53:06 23/10/2022

[interrogator] Hi, Sylvia. Nice of you to come.

Yeah.

Obviously, this is a sensitive conversation.

- Mm-hmm. - Today, we'd mainly like to talk about

the relationship between you and Ed Koppers.

- Um, you have a child together? - Yup.

But were you also still in a relationship?

[Sylvia] No.

I live alone.

[interrogator] At this point, you're not in a different relationship?

[Sylvia] No.

Yeah, a relationship with my job. I have nothing to do with Ed Koppers.

People sometimes call me a crime fighter, but my crime scenes are

a combination of receipts and tax returns, instead of murder and bloodshed.

[Martin] Let me tell you why this is the best place to do business right now.

For starters, the Luxembourg passport, perhaps maybe Ireland,

is currently the most precious passport in the world.

Why? Because we have non-dom, we have EU

and let's not forget there's still an ongoing trial against the UBO.

The work itself makes it special.

That you're part of an organization that determines what we,

as a society, approve of and disapprove of.

And that is exactly the essence of what students are taught here.

Let's say you suddenly needs cash and you call in the middle of the night.

You really think they're going to pick up the phone in Belize or Panama?

They won't.

We will.

We give you first class banking service. Safety.

And you can be in Paris or Frankfurt, by helicopter, in just over an hour. So...

[Ed] But I don't stand here alone.

I stand upon the shoulders of my father and mother.

Hard-working gardeners...

who, after the war, built this country from scratch.

Well, um, to me it's either way. Uh...

I don’t care where it is, as long as my money is safe.

Well, it’s safe with me. I can assure you that.

And that is why I am especially overjoyed to receive

this honorary doctorate from this wonderful university.

It truly means a lot. Thank you all.

Mr. Koppers?

Is it true that the Netherlands, and therefore you,

are doing nothing with fraud tips,

while the European court case, filed by privacy groups, is still pending,

particularly on the Martin Heezink case?

Uh, yeah, that's a good question.

[Nina] Thank you.

Um, from the podcast, nice. We listen to it at the house.

[chuckles] Don't you want to come work for us? For the good guys?

I'm always looking for people to constantly nag me.

[laughter]

But in all seriousness, yes, we are doing too little with those right now.

But I also think that soon we're going to see citizens' participation

will become increasingly important, particularly due to social media.

And along with that, the increased democratization

of investigative journalism.

[background chattering]

[man] Oh, OK, yeah.

- [Ed] Yeah. - [woman] I lived in Nijkerk myself.

OK, great, so you know it. Then we'll see each other there for sure.

- Good luck. - [woman] Thank you.

Well, Ed, don't you ever think of taking one home with you?

Hey, Sylvia, what kind of question is that?

Sorry, but you are looking for someone to nag you, right?

I don't like what you said. You're accusing me of a bad thing.

Hey, I said sorry.

- Julianus Africanus. - Hey.

So, they decided to drag you out to this thing, huh?

- Yeah, but I don't mind. It's all good. - Hm.

- Are you going to college next year? - Yeah, probably.

Well, stop by for a drink sometime. I'll show you around the city.

- Cool. - Mm-hmm.

And tell your father that I still got his winter coat.

I remember this very well. That view.

And I was always sitting there, on the edge, after your class.

- Everyone seems so young. - I'm the only old one here.

You were back then as well.

- You need anything? - We figured it out.

- Figured what out? - With Heezink.

There's a leak on our side and we've almost uncovered it.

- Oh. - Yeah, just a matter of time.

I figured you'd want to hear it directly from me.

Absolutely. You could have also just emailed.

You're still very handsome.

Well, in public.

That wasn't too painful.

[interrogator] And so, if you had that suspicion,

why didn't you speak up sooner?

- It definitely makes him a lot happier. - Oh, yeah.

[Sylvia] Because I wasn't completely sure.

[Kim] And this is all from Heezink's apartment?

There's a bunch of traffic fines and subscriptions.

- They're all being scanned. - France. Belgium.

Yeah. Most from the past few months are from Luxembourg, phone bills as well.

A lot of business account statements from Luxembourg City. A holding there.

And to a foundation in Heffingen called... Hippodrome United.

And they are also organizing the new European derby.

And look who the sponsor is.

Safe Betting.

There also seems to be some resistance from the local population.

OK. [sighs]

Make an appointment with a Heffingen council member for tomorrow.

Who? And where was he found?

Goddamn it.

Do you ever answer the phone, idiot?

Is he completely out of his mind or what? Tell him I want to speak to him.

I don't care if now's a good time for him or not.

That's enough. You got me?

I'm hanging up. He's got five minutes to call me back.

[phone dings]

[Sylvia] Hey, sweetie, did you have breakfast yet?

[Juul groans]

Hey, I'll be gone for a few days this weekend.

- Could you sleep at Dad's? Do you mind? - But, uh, I can handle it here by myself.

Yeah, but I like the idea that someone feeds you something besides French fries.

Hey, I, uh... heard you and Dad had a pretty big argument.

You shouldn't get caught, you idiot. [chuckles] Here.

I'll be back on Sunday and can you please not tell Dad I'm gone?

Bye, honey.

[Ed] Hi, Juul, Dad here. I'll be gone for work for a few days.

There's money for you on the table. Don't tell Mom I'm gone, alright? Bye.

[Juul] I'm sorry. Things just got a little out of hand.

- Now my father is being questioned... - [Nina] Ghost, Ghost, calm down.

You're just panicking. That's not you.

I don't know if I can find any more, um, information.

I get that. What you're doing now is already great.

Uh, I... I can keep trying. I'm just not sure I'll find anything.

I think we need to meet each other, and I will then explain everything to you.

[Nina] This was Ed Koppers' rather hallucinating answer

to the question as to how we handle tips on fraud.

Such a self-righteous guy. [chuckles]

The trust offices need to solve things first.

And by doing this, it means we're asking the biggest offenders

to check on themselves, to root out cases of fraud.

Got any doubts? Pick up the phone and call the tax man.

Doesn't bother us one bit.

Not in the Netherlands, Here we roll out the red carpet for you.

But it's not like that everywhere.

There is an interesting case in Luxembourg for example.

Right now they are experiencing strong protests against dark money.

SCREW YOUR OWN COUNTRY RICH BASTARD

[low chattering]

ACTION CENTER - HEFFINGEN

So, uh, in 2017, five years ago, we sued the organization and we won, by the way.

We won here in Luxembourg, but also in Germany.

There was a great prosecutor back then, Hilda Bannmeier.

Sadly, she passed away.

But then suddenly, the... the provincial government here said,

"Push it through," with some kind of special power.

- They were bribed. - Oh, well, we don't know that for sure.

Of course, there are investors across the world.

So that means they come here with the money.

And then, whenever this opens, they take the money out,

because they are first shareholders, and then they go back home.

They don't care about our communities. They're like cockroaches.

They're bad for the environment and bad for the economy.

But why are they being arrested? This is a public road, right?

Uh, not for long. Next summer, you'll have to take a detour or you'll pay tolls.

Yeah. Thanks to the banking and the house cooperatives.

- How did you get all this? - Ah, Nico. He worked on these for years.

He even stopped his lawyer internship in London just to come here.

What good is an education where you do nothing good with it?

[chuckles]

- Can we take these with us? - You already have it all.

Uh, we actually send it to you all for a year ago.

But never heard back.

Going to make a call. Excuse me.

- This is Kim. - [Lars] Hey, Kim.

You need to look something up for me.

- [Daniel] Hi. Marcus? - Yeah.

Stuff is coming in and we need an extra pair of eyes on it.

Ask Sylvia. Isn't she in charge again?

Well, it's... [sighs] It was actually requested by Sylvia.

Oh.

Uh, yeah. Let's see it. I'll have a look.

There are a lot more coming.

I thought I told you to sort this out with Sylvia.

Yeah, but I thought, um...

I don't know if you realize that we just got such a massive data dump.

I mean, this is really a lot.

I've seen all that before. There's not much there.

But it's... it's the first time I've seen it.

Well, I'd say, have a go at it, but it's old news. Got cleaned up long ago.

Yeah, but... Um, I mean, hey, where are you at the moment, actually?

It's Koppers again. Will you tell Martin I'm already here

and he needs to call me as soon as he arrives?

Look, he can be as enigmatic as he wants about this,

but it's high alert over here, code red, you might say.

- Have you spoken to Koppers, yet? - No, not yet.

- Remember, we're not sure yet, Lars. - Mm-hmm.

You're the one who said no tunnel vision, so that should also include him.

Mm-hmm.

- Going to the restroom. - Yeah.

- Good evening. - Hi. Welcome.

Thank you, good evening. My name is Van Maele. I made a reservation.

You can leave your bag over there.

- We will bring it upstairs. - OK. Thank you.

- Hey, we've got to leave. - Hey. What do you mean leave?

It's full. We got to go somewhere else.

INTERROGATION ROOM-1

[interrogator] Yeah, Sylvia. There's a record of a booking for that night,

but you ended up staying somewhere else. Why was that?

Like I said. That hotel was totally full.

[interrogator] OK, because your colleague Lars van Deurne told a different story.

Oh, yeah? What was it?

[sighs]

Hello?

Ah, good evening. Uh, do you have two rooms for tonight?

[grunts softly]

There.

[sighs]

- Well... - Yeah, I'm sorry.

They really had nothing else.

I hope you really like snuggling.

No, I can sleep on the sofa.

[soft music plays, low chattering]

[sighs]

It used to be much worse, you know.

Back then, they were really like panic attacks.

Especially my early '20s, I'd sometimes almost black out.

[breathes shakily]

- Then what? - [shaky breathing]

Ed was the only one who could really calm me down.

- [knocking] - [Ed] Sylvia? You coming?

Yeah! Yeah, I'm coming.

You can say what you like about that man.

But if he wants to, he can have a magical effect on people.

- [Juul] Hey. - [woman] Hey.

- Congratulations, Ed. - [Juul] It's been a while.

- [Lars] Yeah, I was always curious. - What?

Why you still wear that.

Yeah, sometimes I do. I don't think I can do without it just yet.

[Lars chuckles]

[breathes heavily]

[rooster crows]

[phone rings]

- [Sylvia] Hello. - Sylvia. Martin Heezink.

- Hello, Martin. - I understand you're in the neighborhood.

- Yeah, that's right, yeah. - Let’s meet up. I’ll send over a car.

- But wait a minute. We're capable of... - No. Come alone, Sylvia.

But why would I come alone?

I imagine by now you must've figured out that Ed Koppers is involved in this.

Hello?

Yeah, I'm still here.

[Martin] And I'd like to discuss that with you.

And let me tell you now, this is the only chance you'll ever get.

[sighs]

Let's really work together. What do you think?

I seriously don't see why you're considering this.

I think you'd jump in the car too, if you could.

No, I wouldn't. Syl!

The last person who got into that car is now dead. Just think!

I am, Lars.

I have to know.

- What do you need to know? - Nothing.

Tell me, please, Syl!

[phone vibrating]

- Ed. - Hey, Sylvia, are you in the office?

Not right now. I won't be going back. I'm pretty busy for a while.

- What about you? - No, nothing, just very busy.

Oh, hey. We're both home alone.

Well, who says I'm alone?

[laughs] I really got you riled up with that joke, didn't I?

- What? - [chuckles] I didn't?

- No, not at all. Not at all. - No?

[chuckles] Not at all.

If you want to get me riled up, you got to try harder than that.

Well, perhaps I should do that, Ed.

Oh, and hey, don't forget to sign for the field trip to Rome, OK?

- No, I won't. - OK, great. thanks.

[breathes shakily]

[interrogator] And this was your first encounter with Martin Heezink?

Can you say something about your impression of him?

[Sylvia] My impression of the man, um...

Everything he does, it is um...

Well, a combination of whatever he's seen on TV.

Like childhood fantasies about...

the way a billionaire would act, or live their life.

Or a bad guy.

Or a philanthropist.

[buzz of helicopter approaching]

[Martin] Sylvia!

Nice of you to come. So, what do you think?

I had to take a title to be able to buy it.

I thought I could get it with the rest, but the art, the coat of arms,

a title like that's a completely different story.

Old nobility makes tons of money off it.

- Baron Martin Heezink. - Yeah. Sylvia Van Maele.

Heading over to the track. Coming?

I'll show you.

[chuckles]

[Ed] Along with that, increased democratization...

Yeah, I get what you mean.

- I see your problem. - Right.

Personally, I wouldn't feel sorry for someone like Ed Koppers.

No, I don't, but his kid... the boy is like 17. Not his fault.

I say empathy's good. It's a fine trait.

It's to your credit that you're not putting that boy under pressure.

But I keep hearing things here and there about Ed Koppers

being floated as new minister of justice and, well...

If you can reveal something about him as an investigative reporter...

If you can get that kind of head to roll, I...

Then maybe empathy doesn't count for that much after all.

- Hm. - [phone buzzes]

Oh.

I got to take this, sorry.

Hi. Yeah, 12 o'clock, yeah, yeah...

[low chattering, phone rings]

Hey, this one is maybe also interesting.

- It's reports from four years ago. - Mm-hmm. OK.

[TV] The body of a Dutchman that washed up on the bank of the river.

The police are currently investigating the case to determine whether

the man may have slipped and fallen by accident or whether it was a homicide.

Police have not ruled out any possibility at the moment.

- OK. Thank you. - OK.

[horse snorting]

- Hello. Hi. - [receptionist] Hi.

Do you have any rooms available?

We do. Would you like a bathtub or a shower?

OK, just to be sure.

Yesterday... did you have rooms available yesterday?

We have more than enough rooms, ma'am, yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Hm. OK, thank you.

Uh, hi, can I have a water with lemon?

[Martin] Yeah. All this will be demolished, except for the track.

That'll stay. So we already have that. It's also got a sentimental value.

And stables will be over here, pastures hotels, too, of course, uh, resort.

And it's all 100% renewable.

It's all solar powered, everything in harmony with, uh...

- uh, nature. - Yeah.

You wanted to speak to me. Was this it or is there something else?

Yeah. There's something else.

[sighs]

Hey, Julius.

Uh...

Red wine, please.

Thank you.

Hey.

You're one of Sylvia's colleague.

Is Sylvia here, too?

No.

What are you doing here?

I'm a big fan of horse semen.

And you, you out fighting crime?

- [waiter] Your table is ready, sir. - Thank you.

- Would you like to see the menu? - Let's make it two.

[waiter] Very well.

So, for the past five years, I've had a deal with Ed Koppers.

Every now and then I tip him off about a money launderer

and in return, law enforcement leaves me alone.

It has been beneficial for Ed's career. You understand?

You look upset.

And this is your house?

Uh...

No, um, my father, he, uh, lives here as well.

He's actually more like a roommate.

- Oh, your dad is your roommate? - Yeah, uh, we live together here.

Julius. I have to tell you something about your father.

Lars... that's quite an unusual name for a woman.

That's weird. I think Ed Koppers is a very funny name.

[soft chuckle]

And did Sylvia send you here?

Sylvia doesn't send me anywhere.

I go and then I ask for permission later.

- Oh, yeah, I know that trick. - Yeah, I'm not surprised.

These are people who would never otherwise have been found out.

And who are now behind bars because of Ed and me.

What we're doing is done with money

that would have gone to the Cayman Islands, otherwise.

You shouldn't be angry with Ed. It's a victimless crime.

Yeah? I know a few people who are now dead.

Yeah? Am I supposed to shed tears about two finance people

with extremely delayed guilty consciences?

These are people who work with billions, belonging to arms dealers

and heads of state from across the world, who are now dead

after speaking with a public prosecutor.

With you.

Sorry, I wasn't involved in that, but I...

I'm not very surprised.

You work with those people.

We all work with those people.

The banks, your bank.

Your tax authority.

Your pension fund.

- [groaning, gasping] - Hey.

Can we have some water over here?

Here, sit down.

[breathes heavily]

- I'm fine. I'm fine. - Mm.

Hey.

- How does Sylvia manage to keep doing it? - What?

Getting yet another macho to take care for her?

The woman's pushing 50. She's not some helpless little bird.

You may think you're setting her free, but you really just want her for yourself.

OK.

Let's be serious now, Ed.

Why are you here? Hm?

Because of the Dutch guy they found in the river?

That's right. Yes, that's right.

The guy is suspected of fraud at a pension fund, so they brought me in.

[Nina] So now you know everything. I’m sure he’s a great dad,

but someone has to stop him.

I told you to leave my father out of it.

Yeah, I know, but your mother's involved now.

So I'm afraid we'll both have to choose.

Now, where does your dad keep his records?

There.

[Nina grunts softly]

Do you know the code?

No.

What's your father's date of birth?

Thank you.

I'm going to freshen up real quick.

Kim, I need you to see if you can find something in the papers about

- a pension fund. Can you look for me? - Hello?

[beeping]

- [rapid beeping] - Oh, shit.

- [sighs] - Yeah.

It was my birthday. [chuckles softly]

Hey, Lars, this is Kim. A large amount of money was transferred to Luxembourg

from the pension fund to CV Edelweiss, a few years ago.

Here’s the thing. That money can be linked to the man that drowned.

If you're doing so well with Ed, then why do you want out?

Well, because Ed won't stop bugging me.

And he also seems to have forgotten that we both benefited from the deal.

And because you're constantly breathing down my neck.

I don't see why should Ed should be the one to take home all the spoils.

Become the famous crime fighter. Ed... the minister.

What do you get? Thanks for the effort?

Nothing.

[phone buzzing]

- It's my son. - Julius.

Take it. Nothing's more important than kids.

Honey, let me call you in... in half an hour, OK?

Alright. Yeah. Bye.

[Sylvia breathes shakily]

I'll be talking with Ed later.

Just consider it.

[Sylvia] Sometimes I couldn't help but laugh, you know.

Without knowing if it was intended to be funny.

He can... He can be so utterly ridiculous, yeah.

Which makes it even scarier.

[soft chuckle]

[phone rings]

Yeah? Finally. I'm right coming out.

Do you want to look at this first? Then we can...

- Shouldn't we give Koppers-- - Fuck Koppers.

- He can go get lost. Yeah? - Yeah.

Come on.

[blows through teeth]

[phone buzzes]

Hey, Marcus.

Oh.

- Alright, alright, alright. OK, great. - [phone rings]

- Hey, sweetie, you called me, right? - [Juul] Yeah.

Yeah, I just calling to tell you Dad's gone, too.

Yes, I know. We're here together. I'm... sorry. We should have told you.

I’ll be home tomorrow, and Dad too, I think.

- Oh. - Yeah?

- OK. - See you, honey.

- [Lars] Syl. Syl. Syl. - Bye.

Luxembourg authorities have also given us the go-ahead.

[Lars chuckles]

We're going to raid 'em, Syl.

Do-do-do-do-do!

[phone rings]

- Sylvia, can it wait? I have a meeting. - [Sylvia] Ed.

- You need to come home now. - Excuse me?

Get out of there now.

[cop] OK. Alpha team, go!

[Sylvia] Come home.

- What do you mean? I'm not even-- - You're with Martin Heezink.

As soon as you get out of that car, you'll get arrested.

[breathes shakily]

- [cop 1] Everyone in position. - [cop 2] Go, go, go.

- [cop 3] The officers are in position. - [cop 2] Get in!

Go! Go, go!

- Police! - [cop 1] Stay close.

- [cop 4] Police, hands up! - [cop 1] Watch your back.

[cop 2] Go around. Go around. Other side. Go around the back.

- Show me your hands! Get your hands up. - [cop 1] All units stand by.

All units stand by.

- He's down. - He's down. Suspect is secured.

Get in the car. Watch your head.

Careful. Another car coming.

Police! Stop him! Don't let him go through.

- [cop 4] Stop him. - [cop 2] Stop. Stop, stop, stop.

- [cop 1] Get him out. - [cop 2] Get out slowly. Take it easy.

Put your hands on the car.

- [cop 1] Look in the back. - Get out now.

[cop 2] Hands up! Empty.

We're opening it. Nothing.

- [cop 5] That was everything. - [cop 2] At ease.

[cop 1] At ease, everyone.

[sighs]

[newsreader] In Luxembourg, Dutch businessman Martin H

was caught earlier tonight after a tip-off from the Dutch authorities.

H has been part of a larger fraud investigation

for some time now in the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Germany.

Public prosecutor Sylvia van Maele says,

"This is a warning for other fraudsters who are still at large.

Eventually, they will all get their turn,"

she announced from Heffingen, Luxembourg.

[sighs]

[door closes]

[footsteps]

Juul.

Weren't you with your mom?

No, I, uh, was here.

Oh.

- Dad. - Yeah?

Can we talk?

Yeah, sure, but can we do that later? I've really got to get going now.

See you.

Hey.

[Kim] Woo, woo, woo!

Oh, fingers crossed.

- Congratulations. - You too. Good morning.

- Congrats. - Morning, likewise.

That's going to be at four.

Would it be good to call the judge before?

Yeah, uh, Daniel! Can you get us three coffees now?

Sylvia, could you come with me, please?

I'm going to get right down to it.

I've asked two witnesses to be present for this.

It is not necessary to ask for the how and why, but I do want to let you know

that we're officially suspending you, pending an investigation.

And the same goes for you, Lars. The FIOD has requested your suspension.

- Sorry, what is this? - [Ed] I've got everything on paper.

It comes down to the fact you shared sensitive information with the press,

leaked from investigations and breached your code of professional secrecy.

You will, of course, have the opportunity to defend yourself against this charge,

but for now I want to ask you to hand in your badges, office cell phones,

laptops and other equipment and calmly leave the premises.

Also, I wasn't sure how I was supposed to interpret your phone call, Sylvia.

[interrogator] So, this is where your statement differs

from that of your colleague Lars van Deurne.

OK.

Yeah, because she claims,

or says she's almost certain that you warned your ex-husband.

Yeah?

That he would be arrested.

Well, that's just nonsense, complete nonsense, 100% false.

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