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(PRISON DOORS BUZZING)

MAN: I looked high and low
why he did what he did.

I was truly puzzled.

MAN: Something was off
about this case.

MAN: Modern sleep science says
you can kill in your sleep.

It is real. (ECHOES)

MAN: This is not sleepwalking.
It had a sexual overtone to it.

MAN: She came in my room.

Next thing I remember,
I'm covered in blood.

WOMAN: It was clear-cut.

He even admitted, "I did it."

MAN: I know it was me,

but I don't remember anything
that just happened. (ECHOES)

(BEEPING TONE)
OPERATOR: 911 emergency.

MAN: Yeah, there's...
You need to send police.

OK, and what's going on there?

Someone's been murdered.

OK, someone has been murdered?
In what way?

Do you know if they're breathing
or definitely passed away?

I don't know.You don't know?
OK, well, what did you see, sir?

I'm at Haverhill Park.
Just send the police. It was me.

I'm sorry. (HANGS UP)

(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)

See if you can get
anything out of him.(SIREN WAILS)

(INDISTINCT SPEECH)

One person? Male or female?

(INDISTINCT SPEECH)
Take him in the car.

REPORTER: The Palm Beach County
Sheriff's Office

investigating the death of a woman
in Palm Beach...

REPORTER: They found the woman dead
and took the man

who had called 911
in for questioning.

REPORTER: Randy Herman is in jail

charged with the stabbing death
of 21-year-old Brooke Preston.

REPORTER: We'll keep you updated
as we learn anything else in this
investigation. Reporting live...

WOMAN: Hold your hands out for me.

(SHUTTER CLICKS)

And flip them upside down.

MAN: I'd met Randy in the jail.

I went out to see him
the day he was arrested

and then I was assigned
to handle his case.

Uh, you know, be the lead counsel
from that point on.

My first impression was just that
he wasn't a very big guy.

You can turn around, Randy.
Yes, sir.

'Just a very meek person,
physically.'

He definitely seemed different than
a lot of the people I represent.

What I'm gonna do is just gonna
switch out your clothes, all right?

'He seemed very well-mannered,
very respectful.'

You know what size you are?
(INDISTINCT REPLY)

Huh?Medium.
Medium? OK.

But something was a little bit off
about this case.

You know what size jeans you wear?
30.

32, 30.

Said he'd committed the crime...but
he couldn't remember what happened.

(SNIFFS TEARFULLY)

And then, of course,
there was certainly a lack of motive

because of how close, you know,
Brooke was with him.

And you have another roommate,
Brooke's sister, right? Jordan?

No, nobody knows what happened.
We don't even know what happened.

That's why we're sitting here,
trying to get it from you.

To me, it seemed like
a genuine lack of recollection.

Was it an argument? Was it...

OK.

What do you remember?

OK.
(WHIMPERS TEARFULLY)

Yes, Randy does tell the police,
"I murdered this person"

because you're standing over them
holding a knife.

When did... When did she -
(MUMBLES)

OK.

OK, not a problem. Let me -
(WHIMPERS)

Let me ask you...
(SOBS)

Were you guys
ever romantically involved?

No?

OK.

OK.

But to wake up over someone
who you consider your sister,

stabbed a number of times,
with a knife in your hand,

covered in blood,
and not know what happened,

I could imagine it being

a very scary proposition
for a guy like Randy.

MAN: Brooke's smile was gorgeous.

Just her personality.

And she was literally...

..just always happy.

She was beautiful, inspiring
and going places.

She had a sense of drive
to be better.

And she worked hard.

People who knew Brooke
in her high school days,

said Brooke was very much someone
who was the life of the party.

Brooke was this explosive
ball of energy.

She was lively, she was bubbly.

She was athletic. You know,
she had a lot of close friends.

BURGER: And she was always cool.
We'd all hang out, go swimming.

We'd play games, go bowling.

It was always having fun.

(CHEERING AND LAUGHTER)

We grew up on
Instagram and Snapchat.

She was always on Facebook.

Brooke taught me how to use Tinder.
That's for real though.

Like... I was like,
"Brooke, how do I do Tinder?"

Brooke was like, "Nah,
let me pick the pictures for you."

They were always laughing,
playing, having fun.

Brooke, Randy and Jordan.
They were like family.

Brother and sister.

They were two of his best friends
that he grew up with.

Moved to Florida with them
to start a new life.

REPORTER: Officers found
21-year-old Brooke Preston

dead on the floor,
stabbed multiple times.

Meanwhile, he remains behind bars
without bond.

The question here tonight remains,
"Why?"

Because even he says
he can't remember.

AUTOMATED VOICE: Hello, this is a
prepaid collect call from...(BEEPS)

..an inmate at... Palm
Beach Belle Glade Detention Center.

This call is subject
to recording and monitoring.

WOMAN ON PHONE: Hello?
RANDY: Hello, how are you?

Oh, OK. How are YOU?

Doing all right, you know.
I'll be OK.

Did you talk to the lawyer?He told
me that it still don't make sense.

Why? What's the matter?

Um...
Why?

Well, because...

They didn't tell me why
or what made you do it.

I don't even know the reason,
you know?

Yeah, I know.

I just wish I'd know how I did it.

I was just confused.

I didn't know what was happening.
You know, I...

That's why I called 911.

If I wanted to, I could've ran.
But that wasn't what was on my mind.

I didn't do this intentionally.
This was a person I cared about.

This was a close friend,
so, I mean, my mind was just...

I was just in shock.

The one thing
that was definitely clear

in discussing it with colleagues

is none of us could figure out
what happened.

I definitely felt that Randy
was being truthful with me

and that he had profound amnesia
for the event.

And so then the challenge upfront
was how to defend him.

So we called a psychologist
that specialises in trauma.

To just try to explain
why maybe Randy had bad amnesia.

I was trying to find out what
happened just as much as he was.

From the very beginning,
I co-operated with Dr Ewing.

I looked high and low
why he did what he did.

We went through hours of interviews
of him just asking me

question after question
after question.

..did he have a mental illness?

We went through everything
he could think of.

Did he have a background
of oppression or other abuse?

But nothing fits.
Nothing made sense.

Have you ever had a head injury?
Have you ever had seizures?

Sometimes people
with seizure disorders...

I mean, we didn't really know
where to go.

He was just as confused as I was.

DR EWING:

..had I not asked that last question
just as a matter of thoroughness,

When Dr Ewing
first said sleepwalking,

it really, you know, made the hairs
stand up on the back of my neck.

Sleepwalking to me,
at the time, was,

you know, going out to the kitchen
to get a drink of water.

But there's a big jump
to stabbing somebody 20 times.

As a sleep specialist...
I understand. I've seen, you know,

hundreds of cases of sleepwalking.

So, I know sleepwalking
is involuntary.

You're not consciously aware
of what you're doing.

(SINGS)

But public ideas about sleepwalking?
Generally not accurate.

Until 1964,

the general idea
was that sleepwalkers

were acting out their dreams.

Literally getting up
and acting out their dreams.

This idea that
the sleepwalker is out of bed

and got his arms out,
like Frankenstein...

We still see it if you watch
something like The Simpsons.

But the reality is, sleepwalking
is a set of related behaviours

that comes out of sleep.

Most often following partial arousal
out of deep sleep.

(YELLS)

That usually occurs in a state
that's not really awake or asleep.

There's no difference between people
who sleepwalk at home every night

and people who commit
sleepwalking violence

known as violent parasomnia.

Sleepwalkers are not consciously
aware of what they're doing.

These days, it is understood

that someone can kill somebody
in their sleep,

under the right circumstances.

REPORTER: We're here
on Sarazen Drive off Belvedere Road.

Deputies have been out here all day
blocking off this street.

Deputies tell us
they got a 911 call this morning

from a man who told them a
woman was dead inside her home,
here on Sarazen.

As a blood-stain analyst,

one of the things I'm attempting
to do is try to figure out

where the actual crime happened
within the scene.

In this case, I'm analysing
and interpreting throughout
the residence

the blood stains
and the movements of Brooke.

And it's incredible sensory
overload.

The smells,
the blood just dripping down walls.

I've been doing this for 21 years.

I've probably scene more incidents
than any human being should.

This was one of the more vicious
crime scenes that I had to document.

I admit that this case
really bothers me.

WOMAN: This was totally violent.

Brooke was stabbed 25 times.

We know that after
she's dead and down,

he gets a quilt to wrap her.

There are psychological experts
that say

sometimes if a person
is known to you,

they want to cover them
to conceal their face from you.

To preserve her dignity.

But it might be actually to assist
him in dragging her out.

People don't realise how heavy
a deadweight body is.

MAN: We have a beautiful young woman

who was absolutely
brutally murdered.

It was a prolonged attack that most
likely took a couple of minutes.

(TAPPING) You think about doing
this 25 times.

It's a brutal, violent struggle
that's taking place.

The murder weapon
is still in the bathroom,

covered in Randy's fingerprints
depressed in the blood.

At the time of the crime,
nobody else was in the house.

It's clear-cut. He admitted that
she's been murdered and "I did it."

On the face of it, there was not
really a viable defence.

You said she's like a sister to you.

Meet her when you were a teenager
type thing?

High school?
What town did you guys grow up in?

Little small town?

Hmm?
(SNIFFLES)

I'm sure.

(SNIFFLES)

KATHI: What are you doing?
Come here.

You can come.

You're a good boy.

I have pictures of Randy.

Lots of pictures of Randy.
Like surrounding myself with...

..the kids and family.

And that's all the different Randys
growing up.

Him and his sister
were always close.

My mom gets upset once in a while
and Randy'd always make her smile.

He was the only one
that could make her smile.

When Randy was little,
if I wanted him to do something,

I'd just pretend I was crying
and he'd do it just so I didn't cry.

And even when he got old enough
to know that I was pretending

and I was faking, he'd still do it

because he didn't want
to see me sad.

"OK, just get that look off your
face and I'll do it." (CHUCKLES)

He's always been a very good kid -
very supportive, very respectful.

He's very kind, friendly.

Growing up,
we really just rode bikes,

hiking, exploring the woods.

KATHI ON VIDEO: Push hard.

I remember he went down the
creek the one time with his friends.

Randy's like, "Look at the flowers,
aren't they pretty?"

And they laughed at him.

Men don't do that.
Not supposed to notice flowers.

Supposed to act like a man.

It was from being with me and sister
and we loved nature and stuff.

But it would bother Randy.

I haven't met him but, as a clinical
and forensic psychologist,

I find the case of Randy Herman
is fascinating.

This dynamic of Randy growing up
with the two women in his life

and not experiencing
traditional masculinity.

And so, his relationship with women

is really tied up
with a lot of emotionality.

And there may be something
about the present dynamic,

with Brooke and Jordan, that was
somewhat emotionally similar

to what he had
with his mother and his sister.

Listen, Randy, I can tell you're
remorseful. What we need to know...

Who's Brooke?

And who's Jordan?

Her name is Brooke Preston.

Brooke Preston? OK.
Is that your girlfriend?

Or just a roommate?

OK. And you have another roommate,
right? Jordan?

So, Randy was a young man
from a small town in Pennsylvania.

And he was friends
with Jordan Preston.

And through Jordan,
he met Brooke Preston, her sister.

Jordan and Brooke
wanted to move to South Florida.

Randy ended up following suit
and they rented a house together.

Brooke Preston
was about two years younger

than her older sister,
Jordan Preston.

But they were always together.

Brooke and Jordan
were childhood best friends.

Surrounded by really supportive
parents.

Brooke spent a lot of time
on social media.

She posted a lot,

especially about her family.

Brooke was close with her family

and, you know, family that close,

they did things together.

WOMAN: OK.Time to take you
down to the dirty dungeon...

..so that nobody will ever find you.

MAJCHROWICZ: Once a week or so, the
Prestons had these family dinners.

To just hang out and bond
with their daughters.

With Brooke's strong family
relationships, it's not surprising

that she was well-liked
by everybody.

No-one's gonna hate you, Randy.

No-one's gonna hate you, OK?
(SNIFFLES)

No, absolutely not.
You're not a bad person.

(SOBS AND WHIMPERS)
OK?

If you were a bad person, you'd be
halfway to Pennsylvania now, Randy.

But you're not.

KATHI: I know my son.

And I know that he's not capable
of doing something like that.

The only possible way he could've
done it was sleepwalking

where he wasn't conscious,
didn't know what was going on.

When he was younger,

one night,

me and Amanda were up
and he had already gone to bed.

And we were in the kitchen and he
came out and climbed on the counter.

He has that look. Like a dazed look.

And Amanda asked him,
"What are you doing?"

He'd just look at you
and he wouldn't say anything.

He was getting a drink and he gets
pancake mix out of the cupboard.

By then we realised,
he was sleepwalking.

I got him back to bed
and he'd go right with me.

He'd lay down
and was out like a light.

When we were younger,
we had plastic on the windows

to keep the heat in
in the wintertime.

He would get up in the night,
sleepwalking,

and just start scratching at the
windows.

And he would say
he was trying to get out.

When Randy was around ten, I was
working at the bar right next door.

One night, it was late and I had one
customer and I was closing up...

..when Randy rode his bike
to the bar.

And he just walked up to the bar,
he laid his head on it.

I said,
"What are you doing out this late?"

He turned around
and walked back out the door...

and he got on his bike
and rode home.

I knew he was sleepwalking
because he didn't speak to me.

Because it was
just across the street,

he'd ride to the bar every day,

so he was very familiar
with the road.

He could ride over there
with his eyes closed.

Sleepwalking is complex.

It's more likely to occur in adults

who had a history of sleepwalking
as a child.

Certainly, there are sleepwalkers
who seem to do

very co-ordinated, scary things.

Something like driving a car.

It's often automatic.

It's a behaviour which is
over-learned.

Something done dozens,
hundreds of times.

It's one of these, "I did it so many
times, I could do it in my sleep."

REPORTER: Breaking story. A killer's
unusual defence of sleepwalking.

REPORTER: Randy Herman, 26,
is charged with first degree murder
in Preston's stabbing death.

REPORTER: Herman told them
about his sleepwalking history

corroborated by family.

REPORTER: Herman will remain behind
bars at the Palm Beach County jail.

Mr Walsh told me that he was going
to ask for continuance

because he had discovered
that there was

a legitimate potential
defence that he wanted to explore.

It was the sleepwalking defence.

I was very much taken aback because
in all my years, I'd never seen it.

When Dr Ewing first brought up
sleepwalking, it seemed logical.

But there's really not a defence for
that in Florida.

In other states,
sleepwalking would seem to

fold into diminished capacity.

But we don't have a diminished
capacity defence here in Florida,

so we had to find some way
to defend Randy's case.

The DSM is like an encyclopaedia
for psychologists.

And the DSM recognises sleepwalking

as a mental disease or infirmity.

So the DSM became the basis
for our case.

OFFICER: Things happen, right?

When the police questioned Randy,

he was clearly remorseful
about what had happened.

(SOBS)

We like to follow our common sense
and follow the evidence

and this appeared to be simply,
you know, an act of rage,

an act of hatred, an act of
lover's scorn. Whatever happened...

..on its face,
that's what it appeared to be.

But then, you just know that what
you're going to have to explain

is, well, where is the motive.

Randy said he had no sexual interest
in Brooke Preston...

and that there was no infatuation
between the two of them.

OK.

But when you looked at the dynamic
of the three of them,

he is a young man,
he wasn't terribly attractive,

kinda smaller, little bit heavier,

and living in a home with these
two very attractive ladies.

The vibe I got was like, OK, Randy
was in love with Brooke Preston.

Maybe he attempted something sexual

and she may have rebuffed him.
She may have been cruel about it.

You know,
some people react violently

when they are rebuffed
or laughed at...

..and that's maybe what set him off.

I feel like Randy
really liked Brooke.

I do feel like Brooke
liked Randy as well.

And...DIRECTOR: In a romantic way?
Yeah, every way.

Then Brooke started getting serious
with this other guy, I guess.

And if Randy started getting
feelings for Brooke...

..love kills.

MAJCHROWICZ: Brooke was
in a really committed

and very public relationship
at the time.

She posted stuff online
and talked about it all the time.

Her boyfriend gets, like, a
promising job opportunity up north.

They're pretty serious.

Brooke had recently said
her and this guy were the real deal

and they come to the decision

that Brooke is going to move in
with her boyfriend.

Did Brooke go to bed last night?

She... She stayed somewhere else.

She stayed somewhere else?
This morning, when she said goodbye,

I gave her a T-shirt
for her boyfriend.

OK.

She came back.

Did you know where she stayed
last night?

With a friend.
At a friend's house.

Do you know what the friend's
name is?

Kyle.
Kyle.

SCOTT:
The day before she was killed,

Brooke and Randy
had been drinking all day.

That night, Randy exhibited
very odd behaviours
that made her feel uncomfortable

and she communicated that
to her friend Kyle.

She called Kyle and said,
"You gotta come and get me."

So Kyle came over.

Kyle went to the kitchen
to get something to drink

and didn't remembered
seeing where Randy went.

And all of a sudden Brooke came
busting out of the bedroom,

very upset,

and told Kyle that "Randy was
just in my bedroom closet, naked."

SCOTT: It really, really scared her

and it just reeks of
some sort of sexual interest.

There's other key pieces of evidence
that suggest that this
was sexually motivated.

For example, he had a pair of fuzzy
handcuffs next to his bed,

as well as the murder weapon,
a knife.

He claimed that women like to be
tied down

and they've enjoyed it
when he's done it before.

SCOTT: Our theory to the case
was that Randy Herman

was in love with Brooke Preston.

And him being nude in the closet,

and some of his behaviours
that night,

maybe he saw as a way
to win her over,

to show her how much he loved her.

Ultimately, she was not interested.
He was sort of in the friend zone.

And given that this case
had a sexual overtone to it,

I just said to myself,
"This is not sleepwalking."

If Randy Herman
was in a state of sleepwalking

at the time he stabbed,
uh, the victim,

then I believe this is an
explanation, an excuse,

for what he did.

We know that modern brain science

says that there are reptilian
instincts,

certain primitive behaviours,

that served our predecessors -

eat, sleep, hunting,

sex, protection -

and they are still
in there somewhere.

When you're awake,
all these primitive instincts

are inhibited by the part of the
brain

that developed to stop us from
acting out,

you know, these behaviours.

But when you're sleeping,
the part of the brain

that controls these primitive
behaviours is turned off.

So sleepwalkers are acting out of
a primitive instinct.

It's not that the sleepwalker
gets up and goes hunting

or goes looking for a victim.

This person is just a potential
danger, who is approaching them...

..and they would not know
who that person was.

Whoa!

They're reacting to a trigger,

something that can cause

a brief arousal in your sleep.

That could be a sound, touch.

They wouldn't stab someone once
and say, "They're dead."

They would keep going until,
at some level, they're satisfied

there is no longer a risk
in front of them.

And it's usually triggered
by the victim.

So, in the case of Randy
and his roommate,

we should be asking,
on that morning,

did he perform
those violent behaviours

while he was in a state of
sleepwalking?

When Randy was a little kid,

I didn't take him to the doctor
for sleepwalking
because it's a normal thing.

I sleptwalked, my daughter
sleptwalked. We grew out of it.

I didn't know it was a medical
thing. I never heard that.

And anyways, you have to pay,
like, a lot of money

if you want to take them
to the doctor for sleepwalking.

Growing up, we didn't have a lot of
money. It was kind of rough.

My mom, she was always working
all the time and...

me and my brother,
were always at babysitters'.

It was when they were younger
that their father and I split up.

Growing up, I thought my dad,
like, lived so far away.

And then, as I got older, I'm like,

it was only 40 minutes away,
an hour away.

But he always said that it was too
far for him to come drive.

And he never really tried
to take the kids

except for when Amanda got older -

like, old enough to, like, clean

and, you know, take care of herself.

He told her
she could come live with him.

That hurt Randy's feelings.

And Randy just totally devastated
thinking Dad didn't love him.

RANDY: Growing up, my father wasn't
really in the picture

and we kinda got more and more
separate.

The weekends together
would get longer and longer apart.

(SQUEALS)
(CHUCKLES)

AMANDA: My dad has always
drank a lot.

Uh, he drank all the time.

Before my dad and mom split up,

they used to get into
pretty big fights.

I remember one time,
my dad was drunk and he locked us
outside the house

and I ended up peeing my pants.
I was only, like, five, I think.

And then finally when he let us in,

my mom and him got in a huge fight.

(NERVOUS LAUGHTER ON VIDEO)

That was a bad argument.

He was drinking.

'He opened the door...

..and pulled me in by my hair.'

Ow!

He kept pushing your head
when you argued - the push.

And he kept doing that

and I didn't like it, so I turned
around and punched him in the face.

Well, then he hit me back.

So...

Toxic masculinity is
a relatively new term.

But it's really a term
that's describing an old idea.

I'm going to the moon!

Dink, say goodbye to Felix.
Hm?

Uh, man talk.

(SLAPPING)

And it's a way of
exploiting male privilege

in a way to create dominance
and power.

Randy is a small guy,
living in a situation with two women

who are, by all accounts, probably
in a stronger position than he is.

They've got financial security.

And I think there's something to be
said

about the pressures of our
current time.

That we live in a society where

everything is open
for public consumption.

And so people's envies
can be easily stirred

because instead of
comparing themselves

to the two or three kids
in their class,

they've got, like,
40,000 on the internet

that they're measuring
themselves against.

And for those that have
a history of trauma, neglect,

a history of feeling insufficient
in some way,

they are more vulnerable
to being impacted

by those feelings of envy
and longing.

And they end up driving sometimes
some of their behaviours,

some of their choices.

REPORTER: Now shocking new details

in the murder of a 21-year old
woman, whose body was found

stabbed more than a dozen times
inside a West Palm Beach home.

Here's the big twist in all of this,
a TV station in Pennsylvania

now reporting that Randy Herman Sr,
the father of the suspected killer,

he too was charged with murder,
accused of killing his girlfriend

in February 2015. Now this case
was later dropped against him

because he committed suicide.

The woman had been murdered
and they were looking for my dad.

I think there was some kind
of argument or fight...

..and, um, he killed her.

Then he shot himself.

When I found out my father

shot and killed his girlfriend
at the time,

I was definitely conflicted.

I mean, obviously, this was a person
that wasn't really in my life,

and part of me felt like
I shouldn't really care.

But another part of me
also felt like,

you know, this is still my father.

I think that Randy Sr's homicide
and later suicide,

must have had a significant impact
on Randy Jr.

Throughout his life, he has been
searching for this...loving father,

a father he can connect with.

And it's a father
he never really finds.

And when he next hears about
his father,

it's this devastating, ugly,
shameful kind of experience

that reflects on him.
They have the same name, right?

He can't get away from it.

And that, for a young guy like him,

who is already struggling
with his identity,

that would've been quite impactful.

AMANDA: My brother had to go
and clean out my dad's house.

And at the time, I was... I was so
upset, I was the one crying

and he had to go in there and clean
up the mess from the shooting.

So he had to clean up the carpets

and the walls...

and I think that
probably wasn't good for him.

It probably did some damage.

When I learned that his dad had
killed his own girlfriend,

I thought they would run with that

as some kind of an explanation
for some mental defence.

You know, like father, like son.

RANDY: After my father had passed
away, I moved back in with my mother

and I was working at a meat
processing plant in the head room.

I used an air knife and my job was
removing meat from a jaw bone.

I'd just stand in a stationary
position

and just take meat off a jaw bone

and put it on a conveyor belt
and that was it.

It really was a dead-end job.

I was worried. I think
he was struggling with Dad's death.

I think it all just got to him.

Things just weren't going well.
I wasn't really going anywhere.

I was just doing the same thing
every day.

Take meat off a jawbone,
put it on a conveyor belt.

You know, I just felt kinda stuck.

I realised how much
I had taken for granted

and how many chances I was given.

And, you know, I really went into
a depressed cycle.

And, at that time,
my close friend Jordan,

she had got a job opportunity
in West Palm Beach.

She was moving down there
and we made jokes

about me moving down there with her.

The more we talked about
me moving down there with them,

the more it kinda became serious.

Eventually, over time, I thought
maybe this would be a good idea.

To get out of this, you know,
dead-end cycle that I'm in

and move to West Palm Beach
and start fresh and...

and get a career and really,
you know,

help my life get back
on the right track.

He's got lots of money because
he had his father's inheritance.

I didn't blame him
for wanting to go to Florida.

I figured, what are you gonna do,
you know.

It's like he has his reasons.

He wanted to go
and make something of himself.

He used to always tell me that

he was going to make lots of money
and buy me a house down there.

So he went to West Palm Beach
with his friends.

Jordan and me and Brooke, decided to

ultimately look for a house
together.

We were looking at different places

and we found the house at Sarazen
Drive.

It was a nice three-bedroom house,
just west of West Palm Beach.

That would be the house
we'd move into.

It was exciting.

It was positive, you know. It was
three young adults moving down.

BURGER: When we first met
Brooke, Randy and Jordan,

they were always joking around
with each other.

Me and Randy, we clicked instantly.

It clicked even better when we found
out we both just moved to Florida

from small little country states.

He's a country boy.
Like, he's country.

I mean, the dude kept a knife
next to his bed.

I don't know how much more country
you can get than that.

Like...like
it was there every single day.

But we were making good money
at the business we were doing,

selling Internet and cable
at Walmart. That's what we did.

So the day is finally over
and I get my beer.

'I'm working.
We're having a good time.'

It's obviously a fun environment.
It's a party lifestyle.

'Drinking lot of times.
Having friends over a lot.'

BURGER: And Randy was
the life of the party.

Because when he walks into a room,
it's crazy

because he just brings this smile
and this energy and this everything.

This thing is so slow.

I mean, I was surrounded
by close friends,

we get along great.
It was just a good time.

Consistent with their generation,
Randy and Brooke

both seemed to be actively engaged
in social media...

..and the reward system
that one gets in social media,

posting, getting recognition.

And Randy is posting
at two, three in the morning,

obviously having not slept.

We know that sleep is really
important

for a lot of things, including
consolidation of memory,

cognition, learning.

And mood regulation - affect
regulation, emotional regulation.

AMANDA: I was reading about
Randy's case online

and there was a bunch of comments
about my brother being a monster

and he deserves way worse
than life in prison.

It's upsetting
because I know he's not a monster.

But it's a small town,
everybody judges everybody.

I know my mom is worried about
seeing people from around here.

It took a toll on her.

REPORTER: A stabbing in Florida
involved two people from Wyalusing.

One is now dead
and the other is behind bars.

I mean, just knowing the family,
it's heartbreaking.

It was two years
before the trial even started.

Two very long years.

Around Wyalusing,
where the Prestons were from,

they know who I am.

I'm afraid I'm gonna run into
the father, Mr Preston,

who is a very nice man,
and I don't want to.

You know, what do you say?

There's nothing to say.
I don't know what to say.

(TEARFULLY) But there's
two sides to every story.

Everybody knew
that it was BS from the beginning,

You take someone's life like that,
I think you should lose yours too.

Randy claims he didn't remember
what happened at the moment.

For a case like this, when the
defendant says, "I don't remember",

my mind immediately goes to,
"OK, what were the facts?"

What does Randy remember?
What led up to this?

Randy Herman, Brooke Preston

and her older sister,
Jordan Preston,

were living together
at a single family residence

on Sarazen Drive.

But Jordan had left
for a couple of days

to spend some time
with her boyfriend in Colorado.

Meanwhile,
Brooke had made the decision

to move, to live with her
long-time boyfriend up in New York.

So she had come to that house
to pack up her things

and drive north...
and say goodbye to Randy.

Thursday morning,
I woke up at 3:00

and picked her up
at the Fort Lauderdale Airport.

We drove back to the house.
I ended up dropping her off.

It was still fairly early so, at
that time, I went to the beach...

..and I was able to catch the
sunrise.

Later that morning,
we decided to go out to the beach.

Brooke had spent the whole day
at the beach with Randy.

They had been drinking
quite a bit at the time.

Later that afternoon,
they went back to the house,

where they continued drinking.

From then on
I was just heavily intoxicated.

Me and Brooke drinking
on the back porch was, you know,
my last clear memory.

Randy continued to drink.

That's when Brooke texted Kyle,
you know, Randy's acting strange.

So we know that
Kyle came to the house

and then the "naked in the closet"
event had happened.

She was very shaken.

Brooke said to Kyle, "Get me out of
here. I can't stay here tonight.

I need to stay over at your house."
And she did.

RANDY: Waking up the next morning,
I was half hung over.

I was really dehydrated, thirsty.
I went to get some water.

That's when I ran into Brooke.

She had come back and was gathering
the last of her belongings.

I decided to go back to bed.

Meanwhile, Kyle and Brooke
go to breakfast.

A few minutes later, Randy texted
her to see where she is

and she says, "Hey, we're gonna go
to breakfast, if you wanna go."

He said no, he was in bed asleep,

but he had something for her.

RANDY: I remembered I had a T-shirt
I wanted to give to Brooke

to take to her boyfriend Bryan.

I wanted to give that to Brooke,
before she left.

She said she would stop by
as soon as they had breakfast.

RANDY: The next thing I remember
is her calling my name.

I had sat up in bed.
She came in my room.

I told her where the T-shirt was.

She picked up the T-shirt.

She was smiling, saying thank you.

She came over, gave me a hug
and said goodbye.

She shut the door...

..and I laid back down.

We know at 8:49 in the morning,

a gentleman in the neighbourhood
by the of name Mr Childers

walks by the house
and claims to have heard screams.

So the attack likely occurs
somewhere within those ten minutes.

I was able to place Brooke
in certain places and positions

when she received
some of her stab wounds.

It began at the end of the hall
where the bedrooms were located.

It then proceeded

down the hallway and into
the living room by the fireplace.

There was some activity
at the fireplace.

And then I believe ultimately, she
was dragged back into the hallway.

I can tell you
that she was still alive

when she was
in her final resting position...

..because as she laid in the
position that we found her in,

she was expirating blood from her
nose and mouth...

..until she finally just succumbed.

RANDY: And then I come to

standing over the top of her,
covered in blood.

And I'm holding a knife in my hand.

We know that we see Randy
get into his car.

That's when he leaves and calls 911.

(BEEPING TONE)

OPERATOR: 911 emergency.
RANDY: You need to send police.

Someone's been murdered.
I'm at Haverhill Park.

Just send the police.
It was me. I'm sorry.

(HANGS UP)

MCROBERTS: She was stabbed 25 times.

She had defensive wounds.

It was clear from the scene
that she had struggled desperately.

We know that it's not easy
to stab a human body.

And then to do it repeatedly
when somebody is fighting back -

they're resisting
and they're screaming

and they're scratching
and trying to get away.

And from what we know about Brooke,
she was feisty.

When you look at the degree
to which she fought back,

it wasn't over in an instant.

His hands were injured pretty badly.

Those are all stimuli that would
awaken a person who's sleepwalking.

That all goes to show that clear
intent of wanting to kill somebody.

Sleepwalkers
are well-known to have

a very high threshold for pain

and for arousal.

It's very difficult
to wake up a sleepwalker.

The research we did about
the sleepwalking showed

there are people that will sleepwalk
out of a second-storey window.

And they're not gonna
wake up immediately
after they hit the ground,

even though
they're gonna be injured, right?

So, the cuts around his hand
wouldn't have been something

that would have necessarily startled
him out of his sleepwalking episode.

Nor would the physical nature
of the attack.

As a journalist
with the Palm Beach Post newspaper,

I primarily focus on criminal
justice and courts coverage.

When I first heard about
the Randy Herman trial,

I was speaking directly
to other journalists

and it was very much one of those,

"You'll never believe what I'm
covering, what's happening".

Covering courts for so long and for
just being in the news industry,

you think you've heard everything.

But the sleepwalking defence is
something that doesn't happen a lot.

So my immediate thought was like,

"OK, let me go find the documents,
see if this is legit".

How many other times
has this happened before?

There were a couple more famous
sleepwalking cases.

There was one with a four-year-old
boy who the father had killed...

and another one where a man ended up
killing his wife.

And both of them
were found not guilty.

I know that sleepwalking has been
used in other states as a defence.

But this was a first case in
Florida.

It's a big hurdle to jump when you
have a burden to prove that
something happened.

You're basically telling the jury,

"Yeah, this happened but it's
because Randy sleepwalks."

And when you go back to, kind of,
the empathy,

that people may feel for Brooke
and her family and the situation,

that also is another big hurdle to
jump.

RANDY: (ON PHONE)
Did you talk to the lawyer?

Did he tell you how much time
I could be looking at?

KATHI: Well, he's not sure.

Hopefully, within the next couple of
weeks, I'll hear something.

I don't know.

In cases like this,
where the evidence is overwhelming,

we fully expect that there would be
an attempt to negotiate

a resolution that everybody
could live with.

WALSH: Most cases obviously end up
in a plea bargain.

Usually the plea offers
are also pretty high.

They mentioned a plea of 50 years,

but it was just really too high
for us.

If you're 20 years old
or 60 years old, you'll spend the
rest of your life in prison.

The defence was unwilling to
negotiate it to anything that would
be acceptable

in light of what had happened.

And so we were sort of at an
impasse.

RANDY: 50. 50 years. Five-Zero.
KATHI: Is that what he told you?

Yes, I mean there's no way.
What do they have

that's evidence of premeditation?
You know, it's outrageous.I know.

In my eyes,
I figure I'd take it to trial.

There's no way I'm gonna get
convicted of first-degree
premeditated murder.

If I got second degree murder,

I'd probably be facing
somewhere around 50, anyway.

So, why not take my chances at
trial?

I love you, honey.

When I sat down with Randy,
at some point in the interview,

I said, "Tell me a bit about
yourself."

You know, he indicated he had never
read the Harry Potter books before.

And so he was making his way
through the series.

And he described parallels
in the Harry Potter books.

You know, anyone who is sentenced
to Azkaban,

they're basically forced to relive
their life's worst moments.

You have Randy standing
over Brooke's body,

both of them covered in blood,

and he described his time in prison

to be his own Azkaban.

I wanted to get him
the best lawyer I could.

You're talking about thousands of
dollars and there's no way we...

We don't have it.
We knew we had no choice
but to go with the public defender.

I trusted Joe Walsh and his
investigator.

Before the trial,
I was nervous but I was hopeful

because I felt that they would see
Randy for who he is.

Randy Herman's trial was actually my
first trial that I ever sat on.

I was sitting in the selection of
it. They were asking questions

and people are raising their hands
saying, "I can't be in this."

But I ended up making it through
the whole process.

WOMAN: When you're on a jury,

you see stuff that you normally
would see on crime shows.

And then to see it in real life,
it is different.

It's not the same. (CHUCKLES)
TV is gonna have actors.

This is real life.

And the person sitting there,
you're deciding their fate.

You're faced with a grave
responsibility. Thank you.

'And that's a big responsibility.'

You have their family there
and if you get it wrong,

now you might have somebody

who's holding you responsible
for not letting them go free.

Something very unusual was the fact
that he did admit it.

He knew, the police knew,
he did murder her.

RANDY: (ON PHONE)
Just send the police, it was me.

I think everyone's heard
of sleepwalking, right?

But as to murdering somebody.

You always hear about sleepwalking,
somebody doing something silly.

And then they would get pushed
back to their bedroom.

and say, "OK, go back to sleep."

Did he have the intention of killing
her

or did he kill her on accident?

That's what we were trying to get at
between the two.

I remember thinking, "I'm going
to keep my mind open and listen
to all the facts."

I wasn't making a judgement either
way.

It was for them to give us the facts

and let us decide whether we
believed it could be sleepwalking.

There seemed to be really
three possibilities.

One, that Randy is lying.

He did this, he remembers everything
and he's lying about it.

The second possibility is the
possibility posed by his defence,

which is that he experienced a
parasomnia

and the result of that was that he
had no consciousness

of what he was doing,

and has no conscious recollection
of having done it.

And then, of course,
there is the third possibility

that he may have done this

in an act of rage triggered by

the traumatic
experience of rejection.

And so he has either dissociated
from it

or can't allow himself to own what
he does actually remember about it.

REPORTER: In court, Randy Herman,

now 26, is on trial charged
with the first-degree murder

in Preston's stabbing death.

(GAVEL BANGS)

Ladies and gentlemen of our jury,

I'm going to turn to the people
of the State of Florida
to make opening statements.

Miss McRoberts,
you may proceed when you're ready.

The date, as you know,
was March 25th of 2017,

when this defendant
in the early morning hours

ended the life of a young woman

who had done nothing to deserve it.

Our initial intent
is to show to the jury

that despite what
the psychological experts will say,

and his history
of his potential sleepwalking,

Randy had developed
an unnatural liking to Brooke.

She did rebuff him, she was over
him,

and she was done with his behaviour.

It wasn't more complex than that.

We knew the State's
contention really was

to exploit a sexual angle in the
case.

We know the night before this
happened,

Randy apparently was in the room
naked and in the closet.

And that was something that Brooke
was not comfortable with.

So we just kind of decided
to focus on the dynamics

of the relationship between
Randy and Brooke.

WOMAN: Good afternoon,
Miss Preston.

Are you Brooke's sister?
Yes.

When Brooke's sister, Jordan,
took the stand for the defence,

it was kind of a surprise.
Normally you don't have

the family of the deceased speaking
in the defence's case.

When did you meet Randy?I
was probably around 15 years old.

And was that down here
or somewhere else?

In Pennsylvania.
How did you meet?

Uh, through mutual friends.

She was very...quiet.

Like she was hurt and afraid.

I mean, how could you not be?

WILSON: At this point, you've known
Mr Herman for a few years?

Yeah.

Had he ever exhibited any sort of
romantic or sexual interest in you?

No.

Any romantic or sexual interest
in your sister Brooke?

No.
And living together in a house,

you all were pretty close
and comfortable with each other.

Is that accurate to say?
Yeah.OK.

I'm going to publish this
evidence as...

You may.
..Defence Exhibit Three.

Um...

Do you recognise this picture?
I don't remember it.

OK, are you in this picture?
Yes.

OK, and who's the other person
in the picture?

Randy.

When you lived with one bathroom,
where there times

when you all would have to
share the bathroom like this -

someone in the shower,
someone brushing their teeth,
things like that.Yes.

Was that commonplace?
Yeah, with courtesy to the other,

like, knock and ask
if you can come in.

Absolutely. Were there incidents
where courtesy wasn't respected?

No.

The photograph really just showed
the dynamics of living in a home,

two young women, one young man,
one bathroom.

It just showed how comfortable they
were in different levels of dress.

They weren't, you know,
strangers to each other.

They were all familiar
with each other.

And now I'm gonna turn to Mr Walsh

to call his next witness
on behalf of Mr Herman.

I'll call Randy Herman.
All right, Mr Herman. Why don't you
come forward, sir?

During a homicide trial, it is rare
for a defendant to take the stand.

So when his attorneys announced
that he would be testifying,

it's one of those turning moments
that juries hope for.

I wanted the jury
to see Randy stand up,

as small as he is, tiny as he is,

walk up to the jury box and testify.

My name is Randy Herman Jr.

My last name is spelled H-E-R-M-A-N.

Thank you. How do you feel
this afternoon, Randy?

I'm OK.

And you see this man, who looks like
he could still be in high school.

You look at him in this suit that's
too big for him and you're like,

this is jarring
cos you have other cases where,

you know, someone looks like
a stereotypical, you know, bad guy.

SCOTT: He was a little heavier set
at the time of the crime.

But he had lost weight.
He had a very boyish face.

Very small.
So with that type of defendant,

his attorney would want him
to get up there

and speak to the jury
and sort of pull at the sympathy.

You called 911.

Did you tell them everything
you needed to tell them?

Yes. Yeah.

How do you feel about the fact

that Brooke Preston
died that morning?

Terrible.

I don't know how to describe it.
(SNIFFLES)

That's all the questions I have.

JUDGE: All right, Mr Scott.
Cross examination.Thank you, Judge.

Me as a prosecutor,
I have to be very careful

as to not be too authoritarian
because it's going to appear

as if I'm beating up
on this little boy.

But Randy Herman had some
difficult questions to answer.

You came to Florida
from Pennsylvania

because your life was spiralling
out of control.

Isn't that correct?
That's correct.

When you came to West Palm Beach
from late 2016

through March of 2017,
the time of the murder,

you were still struggling
with addiction, correct?

That's correct.Your life was still
spiralling out of control?

It was.

AMANDA: When Randy was in Florida,

he would call every couple of weeks
or so.

He said he was happy. He had a good
job. He loved it down there.

He was doing better for himself.

But then I found out later
that he was just trying

to make it sound good
for me and mom

because he didn't wanna let us down.

So without that stabilizing presence
of his mother and sister,

you know, Randy effectively was,
you know, left to his own devices.

Four months into my job, I realised

I wasn't really making the pay I
needed.

I was using a lot of my inheritance,
to kind of supplement my lifestyle.

So the day is finally over
and I get my beer.

'I decided
to take some time off from work.'

And I gotta go back tomorrow.

And that's when
my drinking started to pick up.

In terms of Randy's personal and
professional trajectory,

this is sort of where the train
fell off the track, so to speak.

And I tended to take it
to the next level.

I was going out to bars nightly,
spending ridiculous sums of money.

And slowly, my inheritance
started slipping away.

I got to the point
where I'm partying all night
and sleeping all day.

He told me, "Well, I'm straightening
up now, Mom. I'm gonna get a job."

You know, "I've quit drinking.
I'm gonna get a job."

"OK, that's great."

So I let it go. I didn't push it.

It got to the point where I wanted
to stop and I wanted to quit,

but I was kind of in this...
just like this cycle where I was
starting to get depressed

because of my drinking and drug use.

But at the same time,
I was drinking and using drugs

to kind of curb that depression.

After you were awake
and you were talking to her,

she walked out of your room.

That's when you stabbed her
and killed her, right?

I guess. I... I don't recall.

In murder cases like Randy's,
experts are very important

because of the fact that it was an
insanity claim.

All right. Dr Ewing,
please come forward, sir.

Hi, how are you?
Good afternoon, Judge.

WALSH: So, we hired Dr Ewing.

Dr Ewing, are you familiar with
what's known as the Bonkalo
criteria?

Yes, a psychiatrist named Bonkalo

had done studies and reviews
of these sleepwalking cases

that eventuated in serious,
usually homicidal, violence.

Dr Bonkalo looked at the
characteristics of those cases...

..and he came up with 13, uh,
criteria.

The focus on the Bonkalo
was the most important thing

because it's the one
scientifically-studied
objective thing

that we could get across to the jury

that would prove
that Randy was sleepwalking.

DR EWING: The first criteria,
is that the attack occurred

following an arousal
soon after sleep onset.

RANDY: I went back to sleep.

Next thing I remember
is I'm standing over the top of her,

covered in blood.
And I'm holding a knife in my hand.

MCROBERTS: She was stabbed
over and over again.

In the face, in the neck,
in the stomach and the back.

BURGER: They were like family.

Hey, Jordan.Hey.

They were like brother and sister.

WALSH: The victim
was not recognised at the time.

We know that sleepwalkers
don't recognise faces.

'I don't remember getting dressed. I
don't remember grabbing my keys.

Everything was really hazy.'

MAN: He had profound
amnesia for the event.

(MUMBLES)

AMANDA: When we were younger,

I remember him getting up
in the middle of the night.

KATHI: He has that look,
like a dazed look.

AMANDA: I think he was sleepwalking.

DR EWING: The defendant
called the police...

RANDY: (ON PHONE) Just send the
police. It was me. I'm sorry.

..and reported not only
that there had been a homicide,
but that he did it.

No sexual motive.

No financial motive
that I could discern.

(WHIMPERS) Please tell me.

RANDY: Things were going downhill.

I would drink, you know,
almost nightly

to the point of, you know,
blacking out.

WALSH: The night before it
happened, he'd not gotten any sleep.

Stayed up to watch the sunrise.

KATHI: He's always been
a very good kid.

Very supportive, very respectful.

WALSH: We knew that
he had been using alcohol,

but what we learnt was the alcohol
actually was something

that would put you
in a deeper sleep faster.

So that you would be more apt
to sleepwalk

and do something like this.

No question that he was drinking
heavily in the two days

leading up to it.

It sat with me for a while.
I mean, I absolutely believed it.

This Bonkalo criteria
nailed it down,

right to the T
of basically what he did.

And the defence did a
great job of showing that.

We on the prosecution side
had one important thing

we wanted to talk about.

And that was the timeline.

I want to narrow down my
timeframe from when she walked in

to when he leaves and calls 911.

We know that Brooke Preston
arrived at the home,

based on the surveillance video
from across the street,

at approximately 8:35am.

We know that we see Randy get into
his car at approximately 8:57

and he drives away.

Based on that timeframe,
we know Brooke was in the house

for approximately 22 minutes.

We knew that he remembered her
coming in

at approximately 8:35am.

He said the shirt is over
in the drawer.

She got the shirt.

And they had a brief
back-and-forth discussion

that most likely took
a couple of minutes.

MCROBERTS: They hugged...

..and she turned to leave.

And he said
that's the last thing he remembers.

We know from a gentleman in the
neighbourhood who heard screams

that the attack takes place
approximately at 8:49.

So, sort of using that 22 minutes -

we filtered back and filtered
back and filtered back -

he only had about five minutes
to go back to sleep.

So it seemed impossible to me
that he fell asleep

in five minutes
and started sleepwalking.

The State will call Dr Wade Myers.

In this case, we need an expert

to help us explain to the jury
why the facts

did not support a sleepwalking
defence, but first-degree murder.

So you lay in bed
and then you fall asleep.

And then you go into typically
stage one,

your brain waves show a certain wave
length called alpha waves.

Then you go into stage two sleep,
which it's a little bit deeper.

Dr Myers basically educated the jury
on the different stages of sleep.

It's about an hour or two
after you go to bed

is when you first go into
deep sleep.

And with regard to the defendant's
limited window of time,

could that have happened,
scientifically speaking?

He's wide awake
minutes before the crime.

And you can't go from wide awake
to sleepwalking in a matter of
minutes.

We know that Randy admitted being
awake when Brooke got there.

He admitted speaking to her,

showing her where the shirt was
and giving her the hug.

So, if there's no minutes left
to get to sleep,

then he wasn't sleepwalking.

Obviously, the State is gonna
use his statement

that he was awake at the time
when she arrived at the house.

And they could say, well,
it would have been unlikely

that he had fallen into
a deep enough sleep to sleepwalk.

Sleepwalking generally occurs
in the deeper stages.

I don't know if I'd agree with that.

I see where you're getting at,
but it can occur

in the early stages as well.

In other words,
not in the first minute or two,

10 minutes, 15 minutes.
It could be. That's what I'm saying.

And when Randy said that he
had this interaction with Brooke,

we really didn't even know whether

that was something
that actually had happened...

or whether he kind of
had dreamed that.

It's not clear to me

whether he was asleep at that point.

It's possible
that he could have been awake

and then
he went back to sleep immediately.

That's the way he recalls it.

It's possible, though,
that he never awoke.

In my experience, it's fairly common

for defendants to try and fill in
the blanks about what happened.

And they often fill in things
from just before or just after

or add things that seem
reasonable to them.

So if Randy Herman
is remembering that she arrived

and that he told her where the shirt
was,

then the question is,
is this what he actually remembers

or is this what he thinks
makes sense to him?

WALSH: Dreaming that interaction
with Brooke

would mean that he was still
sleeping when the incident happened.

And if you believe
that Randy was sleepwalking,

then certainly you wouldn't believe
that he intended to do anything,

then how could you put somebody in
prison for the rest of their life?

Folks, each side has made,

um, argument on what they believe
the fact showed in this case,

and as officers of the court,
I'm sure that everyone has done that
in good faith.

However, it's up to our jury
to decide what the facts
of this case are.

Sleepwalking is a
very tough pill for a lot of people,
I think, to swallow.

And it's very tough, I think,
to have 12 people agree to that.

Folks, in a few moments,
you'll be taken to the jury room
by the Courtroom Deputy

for your deliberations.

Even if you do not like the laws
that must be applied,
you must use them.

And on behalf of both the State of
Florida and on behalf of Mr Herman,

I wanna thank you for those efforts.

By the time the trial ended, we got
back into the deliberation room.

We sat down. It was almost just a...

not a sigh of relief, but a sigh of,

"Wow, let's get this information out
and start talking about this now."

Because we've all been holding it in
and we want to let it out.

So we started blaring words out.

Some of the men jurors
were very vocal

the minute we went back to the room,
and were saying things like,

"If that was my daughter,
I would have killed him."

(INDISTINCT ARGUING)

JUROR: It seemed like it was spilt.

So then, that's when we started
going through evidence.

So the hunting knife by his bed,

something like that

is not out of the norm
here in Florida.

There were toy handcuffs
but we didn't give it any weight.

The prosecution
was trying to tie it in

to that he had romantic feelings
towards her.

And there was the incident
where he was in the closet.

I know that spooked her,

but they had been drinking all day.

It was a stretch for them to say
that there was some sexual feeling

between Randy and Brooke.

We're five hours into this thing,

but there were still a few jurors
on the fence

about the sleepwalking.

We had multiple people saying,

"How long was it for him
to get in this deep sleep?"

So that's why we went through the
timeline

of when Randy Herman texted her,

to the time when she pulled up
to the house,

to the time we thought she got
murdered.

At the time, I'm waiting in a
cell underneath the courthouse,

just waiting,
just watching the clock,

till they come up with
what the verdict's gonna be.

It felt like a lifetime.

When we get the call from the
bailiff the jury has a verdict,

that moment it really starts. You
get nervous, you get butterflies.

So when the verdict is read,
the courtroom is just silent.

(GAVEL POUNDS)

I'm gonna have Mr Herman please
rise to receive our jury's verdict.

FOREPERSON: We find as follows. As
to count one, we find the defendant

guilty of first-degree murder
as charged in the indictment.

So say we all, this eighth day of
May, 2019, in West Palm Beach,

Palm Beach County, Florida.
Signed, Jury Foreperson.

That timeline that we drew up
and we drew it.

We had all the text messages.

We had time when she pulled in,
when he pulled out,

and after that timeline,
everyone was on the same page.

Wasn't enough time for him
to be in this...this deep sleep

to cause sleepwalking.

All right.

(EXHALES)

Randy Allen Herman Jr,
a jury of your peers having found
you guilty of first-degree murder,

I sentence you to life imprisonment
without the possibility of parole.

REPORTER: Tears and hugs
among the victim's family

as the jury found Randy Herman
guilty of first-degree murder

in the stabbing death of 21-year-old
roommate, Brooke Preston.

Brooke's father, John Preston,
after the verdict.

There's no winners in this whole
situation. Everybody's losers.

KATHI: I feel bad for the father...

cos I know he's grieving.

I don't know what to say about Randy

but I'll stand by him till the day
I die.

Sleepwalking occurs anywhere
from 1 to 4%.

1% of 300 million people,
that's still a lot of people.

And potentially,
anyone can be a sleepwalker.

There's, I think, a growing concern
about the impact of sleep
disruption.

As we move into a society
riddled with interrupted sleep,

we're gonna see more and more
of these kinds of problems emerge.

You know, I've...
Since I've been in jail,

I've tried to sit down numerous
times with a pen and piece of paper
to...

to try to reach out,
to try to tell them how sorry I am.

But it's just...
You know, it's difficult.

You can't really write out in words.

You can't tell someone you're sorry
for something like that.

It just seems like those words just
don't... They're just not enough.

You can't say...
You say sorry if you make a mistake.

This is something far more.

So, you know,
I've tried to reach out

but I don't know how to quite
put that into words.

Unfortunately, in a lot of cases

we don't get to know so much
about victims...

..because they are silent now.

But the entire Preston family...

..friends, extended family,

so many people reacted.

It was quite moving.

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