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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,629 --> 00:00:32,499 -[man] Finish it! Finish it! -[man grunting] 2 00:00:34,801 --> 00:00:35,802 [man] Close it. 3 00:00:35,835 --> 00:00:36,669 Whoo! 4 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:38,805 You're the ball bell. Yes! 5 00:00:38,838 --> 00:00:40,373 Let's go, more! 6 00:00:40,407 --> 00:00:41,574 No mercy. 7 00:00:43,176 --> 00:00:46,179 It's a good weight for a small woman. 8 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:47,313 Hoo! 9 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:51,151 Show them, teacho! 10 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,386 Oh, yeah. 11 00:00:53,420 --> 00:00:54,454 Oh! 12 00:00:58,691 --> 00:01:01,327 Hi, I'm Dorian Yates, four times Mr. Olympia 13 00:01:01,361 --> 00:01:03,463 and this is Blood and Guts, the video. 14 00:01:03,496 --> 00:01:05,231 I'm gonna take you in my gym 15 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:07,634 and show you how I've trained to be the world's number one. 16 00:01:08,368 --> 00:01:10,470 I hope you are ready because this is gonna be rough. 17 00:01:10,503 --> 00:01:12,272 Like I said, it's Blood and Guts. 18 00:01:14,574 --> 00:01:19,712 [narrator] In 13 years of bodybuilding, Dorian Yates has gained 70 pounds of muscle 19 00:01:19,746 --> 00:01:22,816 and made the journey from the backstreets of Birmingham, England, 20 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:25,118 to body building's Hall of Fame. 21 00:01:29,222 --> 00:01:30,056 [Dorian] Good, let's go. 22 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,358 [woman] It's hitting your shirt a bit. 23 00:01:32,392 --> 00:01:34,561 Hello, one, two, three. My name is Dorian. 24 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:36,062 [man] Okay. 25 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:39,632 I want to start off by asking you, do you think the title of Mr. Olympia 26 00:01:39,666 --> 00:01:42,902 is as prestigious today as it was when you were competing? 27 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:43,903 No. 28 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:47,107 No need to expand on that. 29 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:51,411 [man] It seems like you are slightly bitter about the bodybuilding industry today. 30 00:01:51,444 --> 00:01:54,280 -Is that true and is that... -Whose take is that? 31 00:01:55,381 --> 00:01:56,416 Whose take is that? 32 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:59,686 It's not the bodybuilding industry that I was involved in. 33 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:04,457 So, maybe sometimes I'm making a comparison but it's not being bitter. 34 00:02:04,491 --> 00:02:07,260 I'm just like this is how it was in our day and I miss that. 35 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:11,464 I've evolved and I'm no longer very interested in bodybuilding as I used to be. 36 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:14,400 It used to be my life. I had every single magazine. 37 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:15,902 I wrote every workout down. 38 00:02:15,935 --> 00:02:18,404 That was my life. And it's not my life now. 39 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:21,941 So maybe that's reflected in when I talk about it. It's not-- 40 00:02:22,542 --> 00:02:24,611 no longer my passion or my interest. 41 00:02:24,644 --> 00:02:28,348 That's-- I'm not bitter about it at all, Mr. Vlad. 42 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:39,792 [soft calm music] 43 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,368 [muffled screaming] 44 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,308 Let's go, let's keep! 45 00:03:28,841 --> 00:03:30,577 [grunting] 46 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:36,316 Bring it! That's it! 47 00:03:52,465 --> 00:03:54,367 ♪ I really came from the dirt 48 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,635 ♪ I really came from the dirt 49 00:03:55,668 --> 00:03:57,036 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 50 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:58,371 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 51 00:03:58,404 --> 00:03:59,906 ♪ I really put it in that work 52 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:01,507 ♪ I really put it in that work 53 00:04:01,541 --> 00:04:02,809 ♪ All blood and all guts 54 00:04:02,842 --> 00:04:04,611 ♪ All blood and all guts 55 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:05,778 ♪ I don't give a fuck 56 00:04:05,812 --> 00:04:08,381 ♪ I'm from the slum Slim to none is the salary ♪ 57 00:04:08,414 --> 00:04:11,417 ♪ Fussing from someone To make you a casualty ♪ 58 00:04:11,451 --> 00:04:14,520 ♪ And saw the dream And the nightmares reality ♪ 59 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:16,889 ♪ Watching my family And friends become fatalities ♪ 60 00:04:17,724 --> 00:04:19,592 ♪ I lost my father Then I lost myself ♪ 61 00:04:19,626 --> 00:04:21,327 ♪ Lost my freedom And found a purpose ♪ 62 00:04:21,361 --> 00:04:22,495 ♪ Then I freed myself 63 00:04:22,528 --> 00:04:25,498 ♪ So it's safe to say I climbed up out of the grave ♪ 64 00:04:25,531 --> 00:04:28,001 ♪ Almost to never ever ever See free light in the day ♪ 65 00:04:28,034 --> 00:04:31,604 ♪ So if you wonder why act This way and so focused ♪ 66 00:04:31,638 --> 00:04:33,373 ♪ 'Cause I'm right around The corner from hell ♪ 67 00:04:33,406 --> 00:04:34,507 ♪ If you haven't noticed 68 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:37,076 ♪ I really came to win We ain't gotta pretend ♪ 69 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,946 ♪ There can only be one and we Ain't come to make friends ♪ 70 00:04:39,979 --> 00:04:40,980 ♪ You got options 71 00:04:41,014 --> 00:04:43,716 ♪ But my only options Is I have nothing ♪ 72 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:46,819 ♪ So for it all I give it all Until I have something ♪ 73 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:48,955 ♪ I ain't here for Your accolades ♪ 74 00:04:48,988 --> 00:04:50,957 ♪ I ain't here for your Fame and your praise ♪ 75 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:52,725 ♪ I really came from the dirt 76 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:53,993 ♪ I really came from the dirt 77 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:55,495 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 78 00:04:55,528 --> 00:04:56,829 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 79 00:04:56,863 --> 00:04:58,464 ♪ I really put it in that work 80 00:04:58,498 --> 00:04:59,799 ♪ I really put it in that work 81 00:04:59,832 --> 00:05:01,401 ♪ All blood and all guts 82 00:05:01,434 --> 00:05:02,835 ♪ All blood and all guts 83 00:05:02,869 --> 00:05:04,137 ♪ Man, I don't give a fuck 84 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:06,539 ♪ Not the pretty Got it gritty over here ♪ 85 00:05:06,572 --> 00:05:07,840 ♪ This is war over your city 86 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:09,709 ♪ No room for pity over here 87 00:05:09,742 --> 00:05:11,010 ♪ You don't know my struggles 88 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:12,245 ♪ You don't know my pain 89 00:05:12,278 --> 00:05:15,081 ♪ Just know it's nothing to lose And everything to gain ♪ 90 00:05:15,114 --> 00:05:16,683 ♪ There's no days off 91 00:05:16,716 --> 00:05:18,151 ♪ See I can sleep in the dark 92 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:20,920 ♪ They can wine and dine Not just hustling grine ♪ 93 00:05:20,953 --> 00:05:22,655 ♪ Deep down into trenches 94 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:23,890 ♪ Grippin' liftin' this time 95 00:05:23,923 --> 00:05:27,593 ♪ Rep set, set rep, them all in Every time, I told you ♪ 96 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:29,796 ♪ Give them all or give Them nothing at all ♪ 97 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,699 ♪ And that means crown me king Or crown me nothing at all ♪ 98 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:35,768 ♪ And that means full throttle Right foot on the gas ♪ 99 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:38,571 ♪ With my left only next We show respect when I pass ♪ 100 00:05:38,604 --> 00:05:40,173 ♪ And no uh on your ass 101 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:41,874 ♪ Rain, hail, sleet is no 102 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:43,476 ♪ No stop signs or red lights 103 00:05:43,509 --> 00:05:45,678 ♪ I'm just gonna go With time and champagne ♪ 104 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:47,447 ♪ Rookies, I'm just all-pro 105 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,582 ♪ I'm over time every Time you know ♪ 106 00:05:49,615 --> 00:05:51,117 ♪ I really came from the dirt 107 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:52,652 ♪ I really came from the dirt 108 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:54,053 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 109 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:55,521 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 110 00:05:55,555 --> 00:05:56,923 ♪ I really put it in that work 111 00:05:56,956 --> 00:05:58,558 ♪ I really put it in that work 112 00:05:58,591 --> 00:05:59,859 ♪ All blood and all guts 113 00:05:59,892 --> 00:06:01,160 ♪ All blood and all guts 114 00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:02,829 ♪ I really came from the dirt 115 00:06:02,862 --> 00:06:04,197 ♪ I really came from the dirt 116 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:06,099 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 117 00:06:45,705 --> 00:06:48,841 It's almost surreal, like a little bit unreal that I'm going back. 118 00:06:48,875 --> 00:06:52,745 It's so long ago since-- where I went back where I was brought up as a kid. 119 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:58,651 It does seem like almost like a separate lifetime. 120 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:03,122 But I feel immense pride in what I was able to achieve. 121 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:07,093 [Dino] Anyway, he was supposed to be in here in about 20 minutes ago. 122 00:07:07,126 --> 00:07:09,095 Here we are, late as ever. 123 00:07:09,128 --> 00:07:11,931 -How are we doing you old bastard? Nice to see you. -All right. 124 00:07:11,964 --> 00:07:14,200 -Show us in here, mate. -Never mind. Look at that guy there. 125 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:16,536 That's a face only his momma could love. 126 00:07:16,569 --> 00:07:17,570 Come on, mate. 127 00:07:17,603 --> 00:07:19,238 My name is Dean Mark Iles. 128 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:22,675 I've run Dino's Gym, but, basically, I pump iron. 129 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:25,178 And I've pumped irons for nearly 50 years. 130 00:07:25,211 --> 00:07:27,113 Look at this, baby. 131 00:07:27,146 --> 00:07:27,980 Look at that. 132 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:31,150 -I know this girl. -Such classic piece. 133 00:07:31,184 --> 00:07:33,519 To the untrained eye, this might look hideous. 134 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,589 This is probably when the lights go out in a nightclub and you look at the girl 135 00:07:36,622 --> 00:07:38,825 and you're just about to dance and you think, "Oh my God!" 136 00:07:38,858 --> 00:07:40,293 But when you touch her, she's beautiful. 137 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:41,861 And that's what this thing is. 138 00:07:41,894 --> 00:07:43,262 Absolutely beautiful. 139 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,032 I don't know which kind of women you've been talking to, Dino, but-- 140 00:07:46,065 --> 00:07:46,966 Get out. 141 00:07:46,999 --> 00:07:48,634 We used to share-- whoops! 142 00:07:50,002 --> 00:07:53,139 In the UK, the bodybuilding community back in the '80s 143 00:07:53,172 --> 00:07:55,641 was very, very small, very, very small. 144 00:07:55,675 --> 00:07:57,210 So, you get to hear whispering. 145 00:07:57,243 --> 00:08:00,179 So when you were training in the gym, you'd hear this and you'd hear that. 146 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:03,850 But then this one day in particular I kept hearing the same story, 147 00:08:03,883 --> 00:08:07,820 "Who's this big mother who's training down at the Weider Gym in Birmingham?" 148 00:08:07,854 --> 00:08:10,723 So the stories got bigger and badder about this guy. 149 00:08:10,756 --> 00:08:12,625 So anyway, so we forgot about him for a while 150 00:08:12,658 --> 00:08:14,794 and then I worked at a gym called Muscle Machine. 151 00:08:14,827 --> 00:08:18,598 The owner, Ron Davis was saying, "We gotta get this guy to Muscle Machine somehow." 152 00:08:18,631 --> 00:08:20,366 And he got him over. 153 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,903 So we was all looking out the window and in he comes and I've never seen nothing like it. 154 00:08:23,936 --> 00:08:27,106 Even to this day, you know, my hair stand up on my arm now, 155 00:08:27,139 --> 00:08:32,044 it was hard, it was grainy, it was humongous in every department. 156 00:08:32,078 --> 00:08:33,813 It was like just a caveman. 157 00:08:33,846 --> 00:08:36,282 There was no finesse to his physique. 158 00:08:36,315 --> 00:08:37,383 He was a beast. 159 00:08:37,416 --> 00:08:39,685 And I thought, "My God, this is from our hometown." 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:53,599 He created the heavy-duty image of a bodybuilder, which all other bodybuilders 161 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:57,336 tried to emulate the density, the size, the thickness that turned 162 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:02,174 bodybuilding into a narcissistic vain sport into barbarian brutal sport. 163 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:05,011 Let's get nasty, Yates! 164 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:06,245 Yeah! 165 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:07,914 That's it! 166 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:11,884 [Radosav] Right, you get this, so, like the Greek statue looking like Frank Zane and- 167 00:09:11,918 --> 00:09:16,923 and then Dorian comes along and he just turns it into a barbarian sport. 168 00:09:17,924 --> 00:09:19,525 Let's do one more. 169 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,894 Wherever you are, a little boy would see, "I want to be like that. I want to look. 170 00:09:21,928 --> 00:09:24,897 I want to scare when I walk into a room," and that's what he created. 171 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:32,004 [Peter] The guys of the '90, all of them, 172 00:09:32,038 --> 00:09:35,741 you know, Levrone, Flex, Shawn, they always show up. 173 00:09:35,775 --> 00:09:37,777 You know, they all had that condition. 174 00:09:37,810 --> 00:09:40,146 He knew they had better genetics. 175 00:09:40,179 --> 00:09:43,282 That's why he never missed a rep, never missed a meal. 176 00:09:43,316 --> 00:09:44,850 He knew he had to do it. He couldn't slip. 177 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:49,922 So he had to get that condition and that proportion and that hardness, you know, 178 00:09:49,956 --> 00:09:51,023 that was his signature. 179 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:52,825 Nobody had ever seen anything like it. 180 00:09:55,294 --> 00:09:59,198 If Dorian competed in this era, that would be a cakewalk. 181 00:09:59,832 --> 00:10:01,334 That would be a cakewalk. 182 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:06,238 No one's duplicated that type of intensity, that density, that look that- 183 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:09,308 that dedication towards going for a title. 184 00:10:09,342 --> 00:10:10,343 He set a standard. 185 00:10:10,376 --> 00:10:13,713 I mean he pushed the bodies to the next level. 186 00:10:13,746 --> 00:10:15,214 He was the next level guy. 187 00:10:15,247 --> 00:10:16,716 Blood and guts training. 188 00:10:16,749 --> 00:10:21,887 Focused on one goal to win and not caring about any glitz and glamour, 189 00:10:21,921 --> 00:10:23,189 anything that went with it. 190 00:10:23,222 --> 00:10:25,691 Just came and collected his trophy and went home. 191 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:28,160 [Martin] He came from an area that was a bit rough 192 00:10:28,194 --> 00:10:32,765 and he didn't really go for the glamorous life, he went for the working life, you know. 193 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:37,203 He did the Olympias, he did the hard work, he got the trophies. 194 00:10:37,236 --> 00:10:39,739 [Peter] He's idolized in England because he put us on the map. 195 00:10:40,172 --> 00:10:44,110 But he's like the working-class hero to bodybuilders. 196 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:49,215 You guys can see what he's achieved, but nobody really knows the person. 197 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:52,051 Still nobody knows that person. 198 00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:54,420 I think Dorian's still trying to find himself. 199 00:11:12,104 --> 00:11:14,340 [Dorian] My mom was an equestrian. 200 00:11:14,373 --> 00:11:16,409 She was a riding teacher. 201 00:11:16,442 --> 00:11:19,178 And we had a few horses on the little small holding. 202 00:11:19,211 --> 00:11:22,448 People call it a farm, but it wasn't really a farm because we didn't have like 203 00:11:22,481 --> 00:11:24,750 cows and things like that. Had a few fields. 204 00:11:24,784 --> 00:11:28,287 We had, I think, like three horses. 205 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,258 So when we go over to my sister's, she lives quite nearby and she's carried on my mom's 206 00:11:32,291 --> 00:11:35,895 things, she's working with horses and competing and teaching with horses. 207 00:11:35,928 --> 00:11:40,132 So, a little bit of parallel with what I did. 208 00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:43,536 Kiss and hug then. 209 00:11:43,569 --> 00:11:45,337 -[sister speaks] -I know. 210 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:46,472 It's been too long, isn't it? 211 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:51,444 So Lisa Garland now, Dorian's sister. 212 00:11:52,278 --> 00:11:54,080 I am very competitive. 213 00:11:54,113 --> 00:11:56,949 And what I do, you compete against yourself 214 00:11:57,516 --> 00:11:59,852 as well as competing against others. So 215 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:05,024 you have to say that was really good for us, we couldn't do any better, so I'm happy. 216 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:09,061 And to keep looking at the big picture because it's always progressing forwards. 217 00:12:09,095 --> 00:12:11,297 [Dorian] This one likes me, the second one. 218 00:12:11,330 --> 00:12:12,465 This one's not sure. 219 00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:14,033 [Lisa] No, she is a bit nervous. 220 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,068 You all right now. Eh? 221 00:12:24,543 --> 00:12:29,315 I grew up in Britain in the '60s and '70s, that's a workingman's environment 222 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:32,318 and people took pride in being working and how hard they can work. 223 00:12:32,351 --> 00:12:33,753 It wasn't even a town where I lived. 224 00:12:33,786 --> 00:12:37,823 There was literally like 50 other houses and one shop and one pub. 225 00:12:37,857 --> 00:12:38,858 So it's very small. 226 00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:43,863 And then a mile up one way, you had Wooden, which is where I went to school, first school. 227 00:12:43,896 --> 00:12:47,399 And then a mile the other way had Hurley, which was a mining village. 228 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:51,103 Other kids I went to school with, their parents were coal miners. 229 00:12:51,137 --> 00:12:53,072 So, pretty tough working environment. 230 00:12:54,273 --> 00:12:57,109 My dad was very working-class, came from working-class background. 231 00:12:57,143 --> 00:13:01,447 My mom was a more middle-class and she had what's in England called nanny. 232 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,850 So, kind of like a helper to look after the kids. 233 00:13:04,884 --> 00:13:09,922 So I don't think she had really that much maternal contact with her parents. 234 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,291 So that was the background that she came from. 235 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:20,466 I was 13 when my dad passed away. 236 00:13:21,467 --> 00:13:25,871 I was pretty upset about the whole thing and I felt like I didn't really- 237 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:28,207 nobody was really taking care of me. 238 00:13:33,112 --> 00:13:38,150 My mom was not like the maternal mom that I guess that we all want really. 239 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:43,189 She was not the mom that would cook and clean and this kind of thing. 240 00:13:43,222 --> 00:13:47,593 She was pretty much doing her own thing with the horse riding. 241 00:13:47,626 --> 00:13:50,095 That was her main priority, I think. 242 00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:55,668 So there probably was some disconnect there. 243 00:13:55,701 --> 00:13:59,038 And then when my father passed away, I guess it just got worse. 244 00:13:59,071 --> 00:14:03,209 I think mum was a very loving mum, 245 00:14:03,242 --> 00:14:10,516 but not in the sense like mums are now where they're more kissy cuddly now. 246 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:16,488 So I think we didn't really get kiss and cuddle, but I think mom would have done anything for us. 247 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:19,925 [Dorian] What stuck in my mind was me and my mom walking across the fields 248 00:14:19,959 --> 00:14:21,994 and my mom would kind of say to me, 249 00:14:22,561 --> 00:14:26,699 "Do you know what happened with your father?" And I simply said, "Yeah, I know." 250 00:14:26,732 --> 00:14:29,301 And that was kind of the conversation that we had. 251 00:14:29,335 --> 00:14:32,037 It was not really going in much more depth than that. 252 00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:39,245 I'm a boy who's just hit puberty, I'm 13, 253 00:14:39,278 --> 00:14:41,714 and my male role model now is gone. 254 00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:44,516 So, I didn't realize at the time, but looking back now I was upset, 255 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:46,685 I was angry and nobody was taking care of me. 256 00:14:47,319 --> 00:14:49,355 That's how at least the way I felt. 257 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:53,959 That's when I learned to really contain and hide my emotions 258 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,163 because I remember I didn't want to go to my father's funeral, 259 00:14:58,197 --> 00:15:00,733 you know, I had this big thing where it came from I don't know, but 260 00:15:00,766 --> 00:15:02,268 I don't want anyone to see me crying. 261 00:15:02,301 --> 00:15:06,272 So I told my mom I don't want to come to the funeral, I don't want to go. 262 00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:07,373 And I didn't go. 263 00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:09,441 And people used to ask when I won the Mr. Olympia, 264 00:15:09,475 --> 00:15:12,244 "Why are you not jumping up and down and screaming and crying 265 00:15:12,278 --> 00:15:16,315 and like wow, so happy? This lifetime goal, you've achieved it." 266 00:15:17,182 --> 00:15:19,051 I think inside I was doing that, 267 00:15:19,451 --> 00:15:22,321 but outside I was not doing that because I learned to- 268 00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:24,089 to hide this emotions. 269 00:15:24,123 --> 00:15:28,360 If you look very carefully, I think when I won the first one I'm actually biting my lip, 270 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:32,464 which is kind of to suppress these emotions which are coming out, 271 00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:36,335 which I learned this so it's like default mode to go into. 272 00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:55,054 Quite shortly after that my mom met somebody else and we moved to Birmingham. 273 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:58,123 It was definitely less than a year that we moved and, you know, 274 00:15:58,157 --> 00:16:00,259 the whole upheaval after my father's death. 275 00:16:00,292 --> 00:16:04,096 Now I'm leaving what I'm familiar with and going to the city 276 00:16:04,596 --> 00:16:06,265 to live with a-- 277 00:16:07,232 --> 00:16:08,634 a new stepfather. 278 00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:13,439 But, unfortunately, for my mom, he also passed away. 279 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:17,443 My dad died from a heart attack and the new partner of my mom also died from a heart attack 280 00:16:17,476 --> 00:16:19,745 right a year after we moved. 281 00:16:19,778 --> 00:16:23,382 When I was 16, my mom decided that she wanted to move from Birmingham 282 00:16:23,415 --> 00:16:25,551 because she didn't have the partner there that brought her there 283 00:16:25,584 --> 00:16:27,820 and she wanted to move back to the countryside. 284 00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:31,490 And I'd moved to the city and I'd adapted to it now, so I couldn't really- 285 00:16:31,523 --> 00:16:32,992 I couldn't go back. 286 00:16:33,025 --> 00:16:36,362 I didn't feel there's anything there for me in that rural environment 287 00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:39,798 and I said, no, I'm not-- no thanks, I'm staying here. So, 288 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:42,334 yeah, I had to look after myself, stay with some friends. 289 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:47,406 But I moved to this new school when I was 14 and that didn't really feel like I 290 00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,742 was fitting in with the kids there, wasn't gelling that well. 291 00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:51,410 It was different from my other school. 292 00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:55,280 As we say in England, a bit posher, a bit more middle-class than what I was used to. 293 00:16:55,314 --> 00:16:58,250 But next to the school was the council of the state, Chelmsley Wood 294 00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:00,352 so there was kids started coming from there. 295 00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:02,488 So my friend Gary, he moved from a different school. 296 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:04,390 My friend Adrian, he moved from a different school. 297 00:17:04,423 --> 00:17:06,692 So I had some friends now, we're on the same vibe. 298 00:17:06,725 --> 00:17:09,728 So the last couple of years at school were a bit better, I had some friends there. 299 00:17:09,762 --> 00:17:11,497 What's up, guys? I guess you all right? 300 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,098 -All right, yeah. -Cool. 301 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:15,367 -All right, how you doing, mate? -Cool. 302 00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:16,468 So these are my mates. 303 00:17:16,502 --> 00:17:20,205 This is Ad. These guys, we went to school together. 304 00:17:20,572 --> 00:17:25,177 And then when my mom left here, Adrian and his mom were kind enough, 305 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:28,347 I was living at his house for like a year or two years, wasn't it? 306 00:17:30,449 --> 00:17:35,120 I'm gonna have crispy okra and gonna have some chicken stew today. 307 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:39,124 I'm kind of almost vegetarian but occasionally I'll have chicken or fish 308 00:17:39,158 --> 00:17:40,559 maybe once a week or something. 309 00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:44,296 Yeah, Birmingham was industrial town, wasn't it? So it's a tough place. 310 00:17:44,329 --> 00:17:46,331 But it's totally different now. 311 00:17:46,365 --> 00:17:47,733 Looks quite nice now. 312 00:17:47,766 --> 00:17:52,671 Nice buildings, nice shops and train stations, all super refurbed. 313 00:17:52,704 --> 00:17:55,874 You feel quite safe around here now when you come around in the night time. 314 00:17:55,908 --> 00:18:00,245 I mean, how many fights did we get into them years? There's always fighting. 315 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,749 Every one-- every one of us had a fight with somebody at that place. 316 00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:07,586 You're not gonna be a skinhead if you come from a middle-class family or a well-to-do family. 317 00:18:07,619 --> 00:18:11,156 It's a very British working-class street 318 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:13,892 and we wanted to look smart with the short hair and the clothes. 319 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:19,531 And I think the fact there was very working-class and kind of tough, you know. 320 00:18:19,565 --> 00:18:20,599 That's why we had to a fight. 321 00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:23,235 It was kind of-- it was kind of part of the thing. 322 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:24,603 If you're skinhead, you're gonna fight. 323 00:18:24,636 --> 00:18:28,674 English culture in the '70s and '80s, you go out, you-- you drink 324 00:18:28,707 --> 00:18:30,542 and you get drunk and then if you're young, 325 00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:32,277 probably at the end of the night you have a fight. 326 00:18:32,311 --> 00:18:34,213 That's-- that's the way I grew up. 327 00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:41,520 If you wanted to be on the scene as a, you know, as a teenager then, 328 00:18:41,553 --> 00:18:45,257 then you were a rude boy, a skinhead, punk or a mod. 329 00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:51,230 Otherwise you're not, like, you know, you weren't on the scene, all right. 330 00:18:52,498 --> 00:18:54,266 So, skinhead was one of those. 331 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:58,871 It's a working-class look, very short hair and boots and jeans and smart shirts and so on. 332 00:18:58,904 --> 00:19:03,842 Back in our day in the '70s and '80s, it was hard living in Birmingham, it was hard. 333 00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:07,946 You never knew when he's going in the corner but he's gonna get beat up, attacked. 334 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:11,917 So what you did, you-- you'd affiliate yourself not with a gang but with a group of people. 335 00:19:11,950 --> 00:19:13,685 You felt safe within that group. 336 00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:15,220 And you had to in the '70s and '80s. 337 00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:18,257 And then that's how I was with a punk rockers, going with the skinheads. 338 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:23,228 If you're in a gang, it's kind of normal. And I think in U.K. 339 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:25,531 there is a culture or there was a culture of fighting 340 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:27,266 and that's just how people used to work things out. 341 00:19:27,299 --> 00:19:31,303 It's not like the States where people, you know, as they say, they have guns and so on. 342 00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:35,340 Just usually fistfights and maybe some bats or something like that. 343 00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:38,744 So, we got hurt a few times but nothing-- nothing serious. 344 00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:43,882 And when you were a kid, whether you are a punk or a skinhead or whatever it is, 345 00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:45,350 you're bucking the system. 346 00:19:45,384 --> 00:19:48,020 You're rebelling against the system that-- everything that's around you 347 00:19:48,053 --> 00:19:49,621 'cause you just know it's wrong. 348 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:52,858 Hey. 349 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,864 Here's the old original one. 350 00:19:59,464 --> 00:20:00,465 [man] See, I love this. 351 00:20:01,366 --> 00:20:03,001 Do you still like it? 352 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:06,705 [Dorian] Yeah, I've had a lot of tattooists offer to, like, redo it and fill it in 353 00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:09,408 but I don't want to, I want to keep it original 'cause it's all faded. 354 00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:13,378 Well, you see the difference in the tattoos those days and now is very unsophisticated 355 00:20:13,412 --> 00:20:14,980 and cartoony like almost. 356 00:20:15,013 --> 00:20:18,917 When I won the Olympia, the bulldog was like-- it was wider. 357 00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:20,752 Now it's shrunk down a little bit. 358 00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:23,322 So that's the bulldog. That's the original one. And this is- 359 00:20:23,956 --> 00:20:25,357 that's the Maori design. 360 00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:27,526 -And as a whole-- -[man] You got another one on the arm, didn't you? 361 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:28,594 Yeah, it was a Dr. Martens boot. 362 00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:31,063 Yeah, that's the story I was telling earlier on. 363 00:20:31,096 --> 00:20:35,767 Had that removed by laser and then many years later we put this on top. 364 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:38,804 Dr. Martens boot, which is the boots that skinheads wore. 365 00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:40,606 So, I had this one here. 366 00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:44,743 And that was not understood or when I went to the States 367 00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:46,011 people thought it was something else. 368 00:20:46,044 --> 00:20:49,314 They thought that I was part of some white supremacist movement 369 00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:52,751 or something like that because that's what a skinhead represented in America. 370 00:20:52,784 --> 00:20:56,388 He became a skinhead, had the tattoos, but it was more 371 00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:59,491 a culture thing for him than a political stance. 372 00:20:59,524 --> 00:21:03,829 You know, there were black guys in the skinhead movement that he hung out with, you know. 373 00:21:03,862 --> 00:21:08,667 It usually represented being anti-immigrant, you know, racist. 374 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:15,507 It was more against Pakistanis and Indians for some reason rather than blacks, you know. 375 00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:18,877 But it was-- it was violent in some factions. 376 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:21,446 But I'm not sort of gilding the lily with Dorian. 377 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,583 To him, it was just a, you know, a fashion thing. 378 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:27,352 But it would be a difficult for a 16-year-old 379 00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:31,823 coming to terms with those really rough streets of Birmingham where he lived. 380 00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:35,694 It's actually not a joke because some of the letters that I used to read from the fan- 381 00:21:35,727 --> 00:21:38,930 fans in prison, there was like horrible. 382 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:43,635 They were like, "Oh yeah, you want to stand on stage and say, you know, Hitler rules," 383 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:46,405 and all this crap and he'd be like, "No." 384 00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:49,808 So-- so he did write a piece in a magazine 385 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:51,643 and then he said I'm-- I'm just getting it removed. 386 00:21:51,677 --> 00:21:55,847 Lee Labrada questioned whether a Mr. Olympia should have tattoos. 387 00:21:55,881 --> 00:21:57,949 Of course, I could have replied, "How could you have a Mr. Olympia 388 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:00,485 that's 5-foot tall?" But I didn't. 389 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:01,787 I just did. 390 00:22:03,588 --> 00:22:07,426 He always had a certain swag about him that's not generated from a white racist background. 391 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:09,728 ♪♪♪ 392 00:22:20,872 --> 00:22:24,609 Bob Marley--me and my friends were big into Bob Marley. I still-- I still am. 393 00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:27,446 And it's the music is great, the beat, the rhythm. 394 00:22:27,479 --> 00:22:31,116 But the lyrics, very conscious lyrics in-- in Marley. 395 00:22:31,149 --> 00:22:33,618 And a lot of reggae music is very spiritual, very conscious. 396 00:22:33,652 --> 00:22:36,421 If you listen to the lyrics, it's about living the right way. 397 00:22:36,455 --> 00:22:38,523 I've been listening to reggae since I was a kid. 398 00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:40,125 So, still listening to it. 399 00:22:40,158 --> 00:22:43,161 Drives my wife crazy because she don't like it. 400 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,832 Every day my house is full of reggae just to put up with it. 401 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:50,435 I never listen to it in the gym because I don't need to be relaxed in the gym. 402 00:22:50,469 --> 00:22:51,837 That was rock music. 403 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:55,674 We had Nirvana and Soundgarden and Guns N' Roses, all that stuff. 404 00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:58,944 So training music is different from being at home relaxing music. 405 00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,979 I don't listen to Guns N' Roses at home. But 406 00:23:01,613 --> 00:23:03,949 if I do, I feel like I want to train legs or something. 407 00:23:03,982 --> 00:23:09,221 I had this album, this was like a famous album for the skinheads, like, 408 00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:11,056 kind of punk music. 409 00:23:11,089 --> 00:23:12,624 Angelic Upstarts. 410 00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:15,460 So, I'm An Upstart. 411 00:23:15,494 --> 00:23:20,232 That was our anthem, like, you know, upstart rebel, whatever, fighting the system. 412 00:23:20,265 --> 00:23:22,100 '79, they produced this album. 413 00:23:22,134 --> 00:23:25,537 So I was listening to this '80, '81 where we'd go and watch them. 414 00:23:26,671 --> 00:23:29,074 England was going through a lot of troubles. 415 00:23:29,107 --> 00:23:33,578 There was this labor dispute, strikes, unemployment was high. 416 00:23:33,612 --> 00:23:35,514 Birmingham was suffering. 417 00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:36,915 Dorian was trying to find, 418 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:41,920 as all young men do, he was trying to find a clique where you belong. 419 00:23:41,953 --> 00:23:45,624 And so sometimes you try various things not because they represent you 420 00:23:45,657 --> 00:23:49,528 but because you're curious to see will I get any feedback from that. 421 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:51,863 And sometimes it might not be representative of you. 422 00:23:51,897 --> 00:23:54,733 But by the time you find out at an older age, 423 00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:57,102 it might be a little bit too late or you just move on. 424 00:23:57,135 --> 00:24:01,540 So at that age before he found bodybuilding and the skinhead scene, 425 00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:05,644 I think Dorian was just looking to find belonging somewhere. 426 00:24:05,677 --> 00:24:09,080 A lot of kids that grow up without a father, I mean it happened to me to a degree 427 00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:10,816 that I got in trouble and I was in a gang. 428 00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:13,852 And because a gang is just a surrogate family, 429 00:24:13,885 --> 00:24:16,288 which everybody needs a family, everyone needs a tribe. 430 00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:19,591 So if you don't have it immediately with your blood family, 431 00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:21,393 you'll try to find it somewhere else. 432 00:24:21,426 --> 00:24:24,729 And, of course, that can be much worse and you can take out their anger in a negative way 433 00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:25,997 with drugs, with violence. 434 00:24:26,031 --> 00:24:27,699 And that happens to a lot of kids. 435 00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:30,669 So it's on this street further along somewhere. 436 00:24:30,702 --> 00:24:34,172 Let's see if it's still there or-- anyway, the location is still there. 437 00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:38,009 So Martin Square is in the center of Birmingham and 438 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:41,847 the day that we got arrested was the day of civil unrest. 439 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,115 All around the country there were riots. 440 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:48,887 All the major cities around the country and places are on fire. 441 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,190 This was the summer of 1981. 442 00:24:52,224 --> 00:24:53,825 I think I was 19 years old. 443 00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:56,761 It was a lot of riots going on. 444 00:24:57,195 --> 00:25:00,332 On this day that me and my friend, we caught the bus to the other side of the city 445 00:25:00,365 --> 00:25:04,202 where there was a party going on and we didn't even really think about this whole 446 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:05,170 riot thing going on. 447 00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:07,038 We were-- you know, we're unconscious of it. 448 00:25:07,072 --> 00:25:09,107 And we're walking through here, 449 00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:14,145 there's a passageway here and there's a closed door with all the windows smashed in, 450 00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:17,949 and my friend that was with me, it was nothing in there we would want 451 00:25:17,983 --> 00:25:20,151 but it was like old man's clothing. 452 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,888 So he said, "Oh, that would be funny if I take this old man's stuff 453 00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:25,824 to the party and I'll wear it." And he grabbed the mannequin 454 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:28,693 and pulled it and the whole window came out. 455 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:41,072 And then within about five seconds there was like 20 police here arresting us. 456 00:25:41,106 --> 00:25:42,774 [siren wailing] 457 00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:47,646 Actually I was the kind of like in the wrong place at the wrong time. 458 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:51,983 But with your friend and it happened, so you take the medicine together, 459 00:25:52,017 --> 00:25:53,652 don't say anything. 460 00:25:55,086 --> 00:25:58,323 Feeling a little-- you know, 'cause I'm going back and I'm thinking 461 00:25:58,356 --> 00:26:00,392 how I was feeling at the time. 462 00:26:00,425 --> 00:26:02,694 And it's very foreboding in there. 463 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:03,662 It's Victorian. 464 00:26:03,695 --> 00:26:05,697 They got tons of courts in there and stuff. 465 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:08,934 I mean a young kid to go in here, this is a scary place. 466 00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:13,939 And you're going to jail, you don't know what you're gonna expect when you get there. 467 00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:17,175 So it's a whole unknown as well. 468 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:20,712 And, yeah, I only did three months in the detention center. 469 00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:23,915 But when you are 19 years old, three months feels like three years. 470 00:26:24,983 --> 00:26:28,920 So, yeah, this is-- this is a place that sentenced me. 471 00:26:29,721 --> 00:26:35,427 It was easier for me than most people because I was a strong guy and pretty confident. 472 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:38,263 But your freedom is taken away. 473 00:26:38,296 --> 00:26:39,898 That's the biggest thing. 474 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:44,302 You don't realize what your freedom is until it's taken away and you have no say 475 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:48,773 on where you go and what you do and when you do it and you become a number. 476 00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:53,244 For somebody that grew up like on a farm who is used to like running, walking, 477 00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:57,015 riding bike and being free, that was a big shock 478 00:26:57,048 --> 00:26:59,751 and not something I wanted to experience again. 479 00:27:07,225 --> 00:27:12,831 He got arrested, sent to six months, and started training with weights 480 00:27:12,864 --> 00:27:16,401 and responded very quickly. And this guard 481 00:27:16,434 --> 00:27:18,203 said you've got a gift for this. 482 00:27:19,771 --> 00:27:24,242 And the last day he left, he said to Dorian, "You don't belong in here, Son. 483 00:27:24,275 --> 00:27:25,910 Don't ever come back." 484 00:27:26,778 --> 00:27:28,780 And that's when he discovered bodybuilding. 485 00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:31,816 It was showing me what I didn't want and that had an opportunity 486 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:33,752 for something positive. It was simple as that. 487 00:27:41,426 --> 00:27:46,731 Number 67 bus from Castle Vale, spent a lot of time on that fucking thing, I tell you. 488 00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:49,100 As soon as I got out, I had nowhere to live. 489 00:27:49,134 --> 00:27:52,170 So, you get the city to come and visit you 490 00:27:52,203 --> 00:27:54,906 and see if you are eligible to get some housing. 491 00:27:54,939 --> 00:27:57,342 So, yeah, it was a good at least a year before I was 492 00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:01,379 getting my own apartment and I got a job with regular income coming in. 493 00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:08,219 Castle Vale is a city housing estate in-- in Birmingham. 494 00:28:08,253 --> 00:28:12,123 I think they gave me a place there because there was small apartments for single people 495 00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:16,194 and was not a place that many people would want to go. 496 00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:19,164 So a lot of people would turn down that opportunity and wait for something better. 497 00:28:20,031 --> 00:28:21,466 So there's a lot of tower blocks. 498 00:28:21,499 --> 00:28:24,936 I lived in a tower block which was, I don't know, 15, 16 stories high. 499 00:28:24,969 --> 00:28:26,104 There's a lot of those there. 500 00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:27,839 A lot of unemployment. 501 00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:29,507 A lot of crime and a lot of violence. 502 00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:31,843 It was quite a notorious area. 503 00:28:31,876 --> 00:28:34,979 It's basically council housing they call it here, which is like city housing 504 00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:37,449 or public projects in America. 505 00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:42,153 All along here was not housing, it was like rows of big tower blocks. 506 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,791 It looks totally different but that was-- when I was here was early '80s, 507 00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:52,330 from about '81 to '85, '86, I think I was living here. 508 00:28:54,099 --> 00:28:57,068 Lots of silly rumors about places like that are always put about. 509 00:28:57,102 --> 00:29:01,139 But I think in the whole, you really needed to be on your toes 510 00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:04,843 to look after yourself and beat down the door a few places. 511 00:29:04,876 --> 00:29:08,213 And when I started training, I got some security work with some of the guys 512 00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:09,814 at the gym that were doing that kind of work. 513 00:29:09,848 --> 00:29:12,517 I met him when he was coming out of the skinhead phase, 514 00:29:13,284 --> 00:29:15,887 but he still used to where the skinhead clothes and he had 515 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,255 the tattoos and everything. 516 00:29:17,288 --> 00:29:21,025 I fell in love with Dorian the first time I actually spoke to him. 517 00:29:21,392 --> 00:29:23,261 I liked his kind of like- 518 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:27,866 it can be a bit arrogant sometimes, but I kind of liked that challenge. 519 00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:30,835 Debbie is my ex-wife and 520 00:29:32,303 --> 00:29:35,173 mother of both my kids, Lewis and Tani. 521 00:29:35,206 --> 00:29:40,078 And Lewis came on the scene very-- very quickly and unplanned, 522 00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:43,014 I think is the best way to say that. 523 00:29:43,047 --> 00:29:45,617 My name's Lewis Dorian Yates. So I'm Dorian's son. 524 00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:49,387 I remember going down the gym when I was like probably four or five. 525 00:29:49,420 --> 00:29:52,891 For me that was just like going to a family home or something. 526 00:29:52,924 --> 00:29:56,261 I didn't really realize until I was a bit older that that wasn't what everybody did, 527 00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:58,096 you know. 528 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:01,566 In the bodybuilding fraternity everybody knew everybody, not just from Birmingham, you can go 529 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:05,436 to Manchester, you can go to London, it was like your next-door neighbor. 530 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:10,175 Everybody knew everybody else in the-- in that iron industry at the time, you see. 531 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:13,211 There were four weight classes in the British Championships. 532 00:30:13,244 --> 00:30:15,480 So you had to win your weight class and then there would be a competition 533 00:30:15,513 --> 00:30:19,083 between the four weight classes to see who was the overall winner. 534 00:30:19,117 --> 00:30:23,421 So, one person per year would get the pro card. 535 00:30:23,454 --> 00:30:25,123 So, highly competitive. 536 00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:28,393 I started to hear about him in late '84, early '85. 537 00:30:28,426 --> 00:30:31,362 People saying that there's a kid down here who might be 538 00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:32,831 something a bit different, you know. 539 00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:36,434 But I'd heard all this so many times before and it never worked out. 540 00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:40,438 And he was-- he was doing the West Coast Championships in Morecambe, 541 00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:43,608 which is in Lancashire, and I was going to that qualifier. 542 00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:48,446 I went to the hall and they were getting ready backstage to pose. 543 00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:51,149 On the other side of the hall I saw Frank Richards. 544 00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:54,919 He was a famous British bodybuilder, who had been out for 14 years. 545 00:30:54,953 --> 00:30:57,088 He was nearly killed in an industrial accident. 546 00:30:58,389 --> 00:31:01,092 He's facing the stage standing at the side. 547 00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:04,162 I face him and congratulate him. 548 00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:07,398 He says, "I'll only do another couple of years." 549 00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:11,236 I says, "Why is that?" And he said that, I heard this music, 550 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:16,474 the Eurythmics [imitating music] you know, "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This," 551 00:31:16,507 --> 00:31:19,944 and Frank said, "'Cause of fuckers like that." 552 00:31:20,678 --> 00:31:22,247 And I look around. 553 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,515 The quality just stirred out at you. 554 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:30,088 You know, the balance, the hardness, the granite hardness was still there. 555 00:31:30,121 --> 00:31:32,724 I just knew straightaway the star is born. 556 00:31:32,757 --> 00:31:36,361 I was still living here when I was-- when I won the British Championship. 557 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:39,964 I remember winning the British Championship in 1986 558 00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:44,235 and there's 2,000 people there screaming and blowing air horns 559 00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:47,171 and cheering and getting my picture taken. 560 00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:48,806 I'm gonna be in the magazines. 561 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:55,446 But I came home and there's no TV crew waiting here for me, there's no fanfare. 562 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,182 I'm back to my same block that I was living in. 563 00:31:58,216 --> 00:32:00,318 I had no car, no proper furniture. 564 00:32:01,252 --> 00:32:04,689 Shortly after that, I was fortunate to get the backer and opened the gym. 565 00:32:04,722 --> 00:32:07,625 So then I got the gym and started to make a decent- 566 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:11,529 decent income and I was able to move out of here. 567 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:15,333 And I think that's when I moved in together with-- with Debbie. 568 00:32:15,366 --> 00:32:18,436 '87, I didn't compete because we're opening the gym and it was, you know, 569 00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:20,004 taking a lot of time with that. 570 00:32:20,038 --> 00:32:25,176 '88, I won the British Championship heavyweight overall and that's when people, 571 00:32:25,209 --> 00:32:28,713 you know, recognized, well, this guy has a potential to be a good pro. 572 00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:46,597 How can a guy from a healthy sport, bodybuilding, well, that's questionable anyway, 573 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:52,603 why would an athlete smoke weed? Well, let me tell you. 574 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,808 A lot of guys don't say it because they have pressures from sponsors 575 00:32:56,841 --> 00:32:58,343 or whatever, they don't say it. 576 00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:01,512 Most athletes, sports people I know, use cannabis. 577 00:33:01,546 --> 00:33:04,582 All the fighters I know use cannabis because it helps them to relax, 578 00:33:04,615 --> 00:33:07,151 helps them to recover, it reduces inflammation. 579 00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:09,087 Usain Bolt uses cannabis. 580 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,788 Michael Phelps uses cannabis. 581 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:14,525 More than half the Olympia line up regularly use cannabis. 582 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:15,793 [giggling] 583 00:33:16,594 --> 00:33:17,762 I'm a blunt guy. 584 00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:21,833 Weed smoke and bodybuilding went hand in hand, you know, 585 00:33:21,866 --> 00:33:24,135 because myself I wasn't a huge eater, 586 00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:27,238 but it helped me with my appetite, to help me sleep at night. 587 00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:30,842 We don't talk often these days, maybe two or three times a year. 588 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:34,379 But when I got ill, he was very supportive, he wanted to fly across. 589 00:33:34,412 --> 00:33:38,416 And he's the one that got me onto medicinal cannabis. 590 00:33:38,449 --> 00:33:40,818 I grew up around weed, you know. 591 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,689 Probably one of my earliest memories is my uncles all smoking weed together. 592 00:33:44,722 --> 00:33:50,561 Weed does-- I don't know if we can say this, but yeah, the whole family was always 593 00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,697 around it, you know. Always, you know. 594 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:56,100 Back in the day they always just to grow it, it's just there. 595 00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:57,235 [Debbie] It's like a release. 596 00:33:57,268 --> 00:33:59,737 I actually get more spiritual when I have lick spliff. 597 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:01,639 But I can't take it anymore, I'm too old. 598 00:34:01,672 --> 00:34:04,575 So I'll have one drag and my son will go, "Go to bed." 599 00:34:04,609 --> 00:34:07,311 And when Dorian was competing, then, no, you wouldn't use it. 600 00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:10,882 Back then the knowledge and the information about, you know, its effects. 601 00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:14,285 One, as obvious as they are now, I mean it was-- it was bad for you. 602 00:34:14,318 --> 00:34:16,487 That's what, you know, the official statement back then. 603 00:34:16,521 --> 00:34:18,423 And if you knew what you knew now, 604 00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:20,758 back then he wouldn't have stopped doing it, just carried it on. 605 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:27,698 All right. 606 00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:29,567 Time to go. 607 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,768 ♪♪♪ 608 00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:42,180 How did I evolve out of being Mr. Olympia and being at the peak of the sport 609 00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:48,386 and being the representative for this and this almost becomes entwined with your identity. 610 00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:51,389 So I realize like, man, you've been living like a monk, 611 00:34:51,422 --> 00:34:53,391 there's so many things that you didn't do. 612 00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:57,895 So I had all this freedom that I didn't have before, which was great. 613 00:34:58,629 --> 00:35:06,404 If I'm here in Spain, then my time is for me, keeping fit, cycling in the mountains, 614 00:35:06,437 --> 00:35:10,842 doing yoga, swimming, walking the dog, just relaxing. 615 00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:11,876 I think I've earned it. 616 00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:20,785 Would have helped if I had a fucking lighter that worked. 617 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:27,592 [Lewis] Birmingham has always been full of loads of little small council estates. 618 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:31,229 Everyone knows everyone and, you know, 'cause of the shitty weather 619 00:35:31,262 --> 00:35:34,265 everyone's always a bit angry. So it's always been a bit tense, you know. 620 00:35:34,298 --> 00:35:35,733 But I personally love it. 621 00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:37,535 The old gym was in the heart of it. 622 00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:44,575 [Dorian] Here is the passageway that leads to the location of Temple Gym. 623 00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:47,712 It is actually emotional coming here because this is like 624 00:35:47,745 --> 00:35:49,480 a huge part of my life that place. 625 00:35:49,514 --> 00:35:51,382 You know, it's really like my heart and soul. 626 00:35:51,415 --> 00:35:52,617 I didn't like to train anywhere else. 627 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:56,787 And the rest of the street has changed and it's very upmarket. 628 00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:58,556 But this has not changed. 629 00:35:58,589 --> 00:36:01,292 This is full of fucking dumpsters and everything. 630 00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:04,495 And this door right here used to be a red door 631 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:07,231 with Temple Gym on. 632 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:09,000 And then the stairs going steeply down. 633 00:36:09,033 --> 00:36:12,837 And if you're at the top here, you can't really see what's at the bottom of the stairs. 634 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:17,575 You can only hear music and smell sweat and hear grunting and fucking plates banging. 635 00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:20,611 And a lot of people would be-- I used to come and see people all the time 636 00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:24,382 standing at the top and they're just too nervous to go down. 637 00:36:24,415 --> 00:36:27,952 Some experienced partygoers didn't want to go there, and a lot of that was because 638 00:36:27,985 --> 00:36:30,254 they wanted to be the big fish and then you come to Temple, 639 00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:33,324 you're not gonna be the big fish because I'm the big fish. 640 00:36:33,824 --> 00:36:36,761 His gym was just a dungeon from what I understand. 641 00:36:36,794 --> 00:36:41,899 I'd never been there, but I mean everyone that says it's-- it's a shithole. 642 00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:45,636 It's a shithole underground, infested with rats half the time. 643 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:47,572 That's intense stuff, you know. 644 00:36:47,605 --> 00:36:49,106 Well, let's put it this way. 645 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:52,343 The walls are white, but actually no, they weren't, they were more like yellow 646 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,881 because body fat would literally be all over the walls. 647 00:36:56,914 --> 00:37:00,384 It was literally you walk down into a dungeon. 648 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:01,452 Zero windows. 649 00:37:01,485 --> 00:37:02,954 So there's no natural light. 650 00:37:02,987 --> 00:37:07,592 The only form of incoming or outgoing air was a small fan 651 00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:09,327 that was drilled through the wall. 652 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,128 But you can see the air out here is not great. 653 00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:15,933 It's stale beer, it's garbage, and usually it's people out here smoking cigarettes as well. 654 00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:18,035 And that's the fresh air you've got to breathe. 655 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:20,438 So it's almost like altitude training. 656 00:37:20,471 --> 00:37:23,808 And he'd be training in there and I'm not kidding you, people's elbows 657 00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:26,911 and knocking but like-- and they'll be staring at you, you know, it was simmering. 658 00:37:26,944 --> 00:37:28,879 You never knew when it's gonna kick off in there. 659 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:33,050 But the moment Dorian turned up, it lit up, you know. 660 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,854 It was a little dungeon but it was the brightest place on the planet. 661 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:43,628 [man] Leg day, the best day. 662 00:37:47,131 --> 00:37:48,532 Ten reps. Come on. 663 00:37:48,566 --> 00:37:49,367 Okay. 664 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,501 Tight. 665 00:37:50,901 --> 00:37:54,405 One, two-- 666 00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:55,940 If I'm at home, it's fairly quiet. 667 00:37:55,973 --> 00:37:57,508 I'm in the gym every day. 668 00:37:57,541 --> 00:38:00,678 I've got few regular clients like Dan and Ben. 669 00:38:03,981 --> 00:38:06,050 Ben wants to compete because he hasn't done that. 670 00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:08,619 He hasn't achieved that goal. 671 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:12,490 So now he's taking time out of his life to-- to pursue that goal. 672 00:38:12,523 --> 00:38:16,127 That's what's important to him now and he has the freedom and time to do that. 673 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,028 Here we go. 674 00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:20,631 One, two. And again. 675 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:21,799 Push. 676 00:38:21,832 --> 00:38:23,034 And one more. 677 00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:26,504 -[pushing] -One more for 15, mate. Old record. Let's go. 678 00:38:26,537 --> 00:38:27,738 Let's go. 679 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,641 It's okay, rack. 680 00:38:32,576 --> 00:38:34,645 Oh my God. 681 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,080 Are we doing this for fun? 682 00:38:36,113 --> 00:38:37,481 [Dorian] Yeah. 683 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:39,083 Oh God. 684 00:38:39,116 --> 00:38:43,621 [Dorian] Right. Eight. Drive. Nine. And again. 685 00:38:44,955 --> 00:38:47,091 Ten. Let's start now. Come on! 686 00:38:47,124 --> 00:38:48,726 Push! 687 00:38:48,759 --> 00:38:49,927 And again. 688 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,929 Push. Three more! 689 00:38:51,962 --> 00:38:53,664 -What? -Come on, three more. 690 00:38:54,198 --> 00:38:55,499 One. 691 00:38:55,866 --> 00:38:57,101 Again. 692 00:38:57,134 --> 00:38:58,936 Push, push. Breathe. 693 00:38:58,969 --> 00:39:00,738 Breathe. And one rep. 694 00:39:00,771 --> 00:39:02,173 Push! 695 00:39:02,206 --> 00:39:03,708 And breathe. One more! 696 00:39:03,741 --> 00:39:05,142 Last one. Go. 697 00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:07,111 [Ben] Come on, Dan. Easy. 698 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,180 It's okay, rack. 699 00:39:09,213 --> 00:39:12,450 Come with me Mr. Cameraman, follow me. Follow me. 700 00:39:17,555 --> 00:39:22,159 Okay, so he didn't use the toilet 'cause he found the bathroom. 701 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,929 I allowed him to leave after the quad workout. 702 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:28,032 Just come back for a hamstring, Dan, okay? 703 00:39:34,238 --> 00:39:36,073 Dan is vomiting in the bathroom. 704 00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:38,909 Nothing to be alarmed about, this is normal. 705 00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:43,013 We had to book it there on the leg area for him, but I told him after he finished quads 706 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,883 he can actually leave and use the bathroom. So that's what he's doing. 707 00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:48,853 He held it to the end, so it's an improvement on the previous weeks. 708 00:39:52,523 --> 00:39:55,493 Good though, man. He went up on everything. So, it's great. 709 00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:58,996 Easy stuff now, Dan. Squeeze it up. 710 00:39:59,029 --> 00:40:03,801 Pretty much from day one, my training principles were based around high-intensity training, 711 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:06,871 which originally came from Arthur Jones who invented the Nautilus machines 712 00:40:06,904 --> 00:40:09,106 and then was popularized by my mentor. 713 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:11,909 I got a lot of useful information from them. 714 00:40:11,942 --> 00:40:17,782 And then little bits from here, little bits from there and, most importantly, my own feedback, 715 00:40:17,815 --> 00:40:22,720 which is something you have to be able to do in bodybuilding because we all 716 00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:25,523 recover a little bit differently and react a little bit differently. 717 00:40:25,556 --> 00:40:27,625 So you got to learn to listen to your body. 718 00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:36,467 Another one in the books. 719 00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:39,069 [Peter] I don't know whether this is the case today, 720 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:43,107 but when you visit his house in-- in-- in Birmingham, 721 00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:47,211 he'd have these big bookcases in his study 722 00:40:47,244 --> 00:40:51,615 and it was every book on physiology science, 723 00:40:51,649 --> 00:40:56,020 the- -the things to do with bodybuilding, and he voraciously read these things 724 00:40:56,053 --> 00:40:59,990 and work out how that worked, how-- how can you stimulate this, 725 00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:01,525 how can you do that, you know. 726 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,030 See, in the '70s and going into the '80s, you know, all that sort of champion, 727 00:41:06,063 --> 00:41:09,567 they're training twice a day, two hours in the morning, an hour in the evening. 728 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,839 He did that 45 minutes four times a week, rotated the body parts. 729 00:41:14,872 --> 00:41:16,807 So very intense, very focused. 730 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:20,211 Mentally, I would be prepared before I got there. 731 00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:22,580 Every workout I've got logged down. 732 00:41:22,613 --> 00:41:25,783 So I would read-- before I left the house, I would-- this is what I did last week, 733 00:41:26,717 --> 00:41:28,719 this is what I got to beat this week. 734 00:41:28,752 --> 00:41:31,255 And I have all the numbers, all the weights in my mind, 735 00:41:31,288 --> 00:41:33,057 feeling, visualizing, everything. 736 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:35,192 The most important thing I'm doing is that workout. 737 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:38,996 Everything revolves around that: the eating, the rest, everything. 738 00:41:39,029 --> 00:41:42,233 It was almost like a Special Forces soldier. 739 00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:46,971 He's focused everything every ounce of himself into a mission. 740 00:41:55,246 --> 00:41:59,183 It was all building up to one all-out set. 741 00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:04,955 He would do a warm-up set, very light, just to get the groove. 742 00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:09,760 Maybe a second set. But nowhere near failure or anything like that. 743 00:42:10,294 --> 00:42:14,798 And then the last and third set, everything would be given all out. 744 00:42:14,832 --> 00:42:15,633 Bang. 745 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,102 Let's go. Let's keep! 746 00:42:18,135 --> 00:42:21,071 [Peter] Full strength. You know, complete exhaustion. 747 00:42:21,105 --> 00:42:23,040 You know, the muscle had been fried. 748 00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:25,609 Finish it. 749 00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:27,111 Yeah. 750 00:42:27,144 --> 00:42:31,348 [Dorian] I got every workout from 1983 until 1997, 751 00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,717 every single workout, every rep, every set, 752 00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:37,755 preparation notes for Mr. Olympia and all these things, this work, this didn't work. 753 00:42:37,788 --> 00:42:41,759 So, very analytical, writing everything, analyzing, studying. 754 00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:44,628 His training diary was his life and that was him. 755 00:42:44,662 --> 00:42:47,164 And he knew if he followed X, it would equal Y. 756 00:42:47,197 --> 00:42:48,832 And that's what's been proven. 757 00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:52,636 He totally believed what he was doing was right. 758 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:53,804 He had no doubts. 759 00:42:53,837 --> 00:42:55,039 That's half the battle. 760 00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:58,909 If you believe in something, you-- you can make it happen. 761 00:42:58,943 --> 00:43:02,379 Blood and Guts is just to a level where no one's willing to go. 762 00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:04,081 I mean that's-- that's what it's about. 763 00:43:04,114 --> 00:43:06,717 Turn the body inside out, no matter what it takes. 764 00:43:07,284 --> 00:43:09,286 He wasn't gonna stop. He was a train. 765 00:43:12,056 --> 00:43:14,224 [man] Come on, Yates get in there, nice and fight! 766 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:16,360 Yeah! 767 00:43:18,128 --> 00:43:20,965 [Chris] It's like this is the thing, when people train, everyone thinks they train hard. 768 00:43:20,998 --> 00:43:22,700 You're doing it top notch. 769 00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:24,301 They are intense. 770 00:43:24,902 --> 00:43:27,037 They have no idea what intensity is about. 771 00:43:28,172 --> 00:43:30,307 Let's go! [screaming] 772 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:33,677 On the knees! 773 00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:37,715 Let's get nasty! Breathe in! 774 00:43:39,083 --> 00:43:40,384 That's it. 775 00:43:40,417 --> 00:43:42,052 Now bring it! 776 00:43:42,086 --> 00:43:44,021 That's it. Let's do it again! 777 00:43:45,055 --> 00:43:46,090 Very good. 778 00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:47,024 Driving on! 779 00:43:47,424 --> 00:43:49,293 Close. Squeeze it in! 780 00:43:49,326 --> 00:43:50,828 Keep it coming! 781 00:43:55,733 --> 00:43:56,767 Squeeze in! 782 00:43:59,336 --> 00:44:00,738 Yes! 783 00:44:05,242 --> 00:44:06,410 Whoo! 784 00:44:10,047 --> 00:44:14,351 When he went for the 1990 Night of the Champions, 785 00:44:14,385 --> 00:44:18,722 his pro debut, they all have just been drug tested. 786 00:44:19,356 --> 00:44:24,762 He was under the impression quite a way into his preparation the Night of Champions 787 00:44:24,795 --> 00:44:27,264 would be drug tested. And, even though, it was drug tested, 788 00:44:27,297 --> 00:44:29,933 it didn't hold any threats for him. 789 00:44:29,967 --> 00:44:32,369 I had PED, performance-enhancing drugs. 790 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:39,376 We just call it juice or gear, where I'm from. 791 00:44:39,410 --> 00:44:45,115 My thing was I always want to get the maximum benefit out of this with the least negatives. 792 00:44:45,149 --> 00:44:49,853 When I first started, it was like very, very small and then a little bit more as an amateur 793 00:44:49,887 --> 00:44:51,755 and then as a professional a little bit more. 794 00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:54,191 Obviously, everything he did, I knew about. 795 00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:56,226 I was just concerned about him harming himself. 796 00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:57,828 And I don't remember how the conversation went, 797 00:44:57,861 --> 00:45:01,098 but I'm like these people taking them all the time for bodybuilding contests 798 00:45:01,131 --> 00:45:02,499 they're not dying, they're still cool. 799 00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:04,301 Schwarzenegger and all those guys are still good. 800 00:45:04,334 --> 00:45:08,272 I think she said something, "Yeah, but how about when you get older and you're 45 or 50, 801 00:45:08,305 --> 00:45:09,606 maybe you get heart attack?" 802 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,443 Well, I was like, "I am not concerned about when I'm 45 or 50, 803 00:45:12,476 --> 00:45:14,411 I am concerned about now and changing my life." 804 00:45:14,445 --> 00:45:18,982 So, I'd rather be somebody and, you know, pass away earlier 805 00:45:20,184 --> 00:45:23,554 than live the life of the people that around me which is like 806 00:45:23,587 --> 00:45:25,923 just a dead end, they're not going anywhere. 807 00:45:25,956 --> 00:45:29,126 But it was always controlled. I always wrote everything down and planned it out 808 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:30,728 and there was breaks in between. 809 00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:35,165 And I didn't have anyone helping me or advising me with that, I did it myself. 810 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:38,135 But I had a doctor who was just doing my blood tests. 811 00:45:38,168 --> 00:45:41,138 [Dino] The main thing with Dorian Yates, what separated him from everybody else, 812 00:45:41,171 --> 00:45:44,074 a lot of guys in the gyms would just listen to a doorman 813 00:45:44,108 --> 00:45:46,543 or listen to a gym owner and would take their advice. 814 00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:48,245 Dorian Yates didn't do that. 815 00:45:48,278 --> 00:45:51,281 He read through books, and read through books and books and books and books and books 816 00:45:51,315 --> 00:45:55,919 and he tried and speculated different things for his physique 817 00:45:55,953 --> 00:45:57,921 and he tried different things and he made notes about them. 818 00:45:57,955 --> 00:45:59,490 And they would never believe what Dorian took. 819 00:45:59,523 --> 00:46:03,327 I know, I've seen his books, you know, stopping at his house and me being me, 820 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,231 I'll look-- I'll sit in his bedroom, I was like, "Oh fuck, he's going to bed." 821 00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:08,999 So start to look through the drawers. 822 00:46:09,032 --> 00:46:11,001 He knows now. So I was looking through the drawers. 823 00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:13,403 So, anyway, so I found his books, his training manuals. 824 00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:17,875 So I started looking through and he had some steroid circles and his training circles in it 825 00:46:17,908 --> 00:46:19,443 and you wouldn't believe how little he took. 826 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,480 To win a Mr. Olympia or to win the Mr. Britain, very, very little. 827 00:46:23,514 --> 00:46:28,185 But what he did though, he studied the half-life so he knew exactly the least amount 828 00:46:28,218 --> 00:46:30,320 he could take to get the maximum results. 829 00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:32,589 I am 57 next month. 830 00:46:32,623 --> 00:46:38,962 So, happy to report that I'm very healthy and cool. 831 00:46:40,197 --> 00:46:45,002 Night of Champions was recognized as at one point the leading pro contest. 832 00:46:45,035 --> 00:46:46,603 Beacon Theatre right here in New York City. 833 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:50,374 I mean I had a bucket list when I turned professional. That was top of my list 834 00:46:50,407 --> 00:46:51,542 doing the Night of the Champions. 835 00:46:51,575 --> 00:46:54,144 Dorian got second at his first Night of the Champions. 836 00:46:54,178 --> 00:46:56,180 He lost to Mohammed Benaziza. 837 00:46:56,213 --> 00:46:58,916 Controversial decision. I mean Dorian looked amazing. 838 00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:01,652 Benaziza was amazing, too, but Dorian lost to him 839 00:47:01,685 --> 00:47:03,253 and he came back the next year and he won. 840 00:47:04,354 --> 00:47:06,890 [man] Why was his nickname "The Shadow?" 841 00:47:06,924 --> 00:47:08,425 I called him The Shadow. 842 00:47:08,458 --> 00:47:11,328 -So you gave him the nickname? -Yeah, I-- I called-- I gave him the name. 843 00:47:11,361 --> 00:47:14,097 I gave him the name Shadow because I immediately saw it, 844 00:47:14,131 --> 00:47:18,101 connected the shadow hanging over British heavyweights, you know. 845 00:47:18,135 --> 00:47:21,538 But the other thing, you know, you never saw him when he's not competing 846 00:47:21,572 --> 00:47:23,207 and he never hung out with anybody. 847 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,945 So that's why I said he's in the shadows, you know, just-- just waiting to pounce. 848 00:47:27,978 --> 00:47:30,948 I got second on my first try in 1990. 849 00:47:30,981 --> 00:47:35,152 So I went back the following year to the same contest, Night of Champions in New York, 850 00:47:35,185 --> 00:47:37,254 and this time won this outright. 851 00:47:37,287 --> 00:47:44,061 Then people started to say to me, "You could be the guy that could beat Haney." 852 00:47:44,094 --> 00:47:45,662 Lee Haney was the man. 853 00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:49,600 I mean Lee Haney was-- was the guy, he was the best in the world at the time. 854 00:47:49,633 --> 00:47:52,936 And that was the ultimate goal, Lee Haney. 855 00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:57,407 When I first met Dorian, he's about 12 and 1/2 stone, really pale, no body fat, 856 00:47:57,441 --> 00:48:00,978 well-shaped muscles, but not massively big. 857 00:48:01,011 --> 00:48:05,949 From then to 10 years later, the transformation is amazing. 858 00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:09,486 It was just literally like something out of Marvel Comics. 859 00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:10,954 It's like the Hulk. 860 00:48:10,988 --> 00:48:15,359 When I first saw him compete against Lee Haney, Dorian got second to him 861 00:48:15,392 --> 00:48:19,096 but he just stood out with just his aura, 862 00:48:19,129 --> 00:48:21,965 something about him that surpassed everybody else. 863 00:48:21,999 --> 00:48:26,470 [Steve] He brought a much bigger, thicker physique, much more heavily dense muscle. 864 00:48:26,503 --> 00:48:29,039 It was very close, though, a very close decision. 865 00:48:29,072 --> 00:48:33,310 You saw right then and then he had all the potential to be literally the best in the world. 866 00:48:33,343 --> 00:48:37,114 He just was so massive and so big, he blew everybody away. 867 00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:39,983 His back, and that's where he got the name The Shadow from 'cause he- 868 00:48:40,017 --> 00:48:41,184 he put shadows on everybody. 869 00:48:41,218 --> 00:48:44,454 I was walking behind him. We were both getting on stage. 870 00:48:44,488 --> 00:48:48,058 You know, I just remember going up the stairs and all of a sudden all the lights went out, 871 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:51,094 covered the whole frame of the damn lights in front of me. 872 00:48:51,128 --> 00:48:53,597 I like, "Okay, not that guy. 873 00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:55,666 Okay, let's see who else I could beat here." 874 00:48:58,235 --> 00:48:59,336 He was like a- 875 00:49:01,672 --> 00:49:03,173 like a caged animal. 876 00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:07,044 He stayed in his cage, he trained, he ate, he slept. 877 00:49:07,077 --> 00:49:10,347 When it was time to come out and do his business, he came out, did his business 878 00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:11,682 and went back to his cage. 879 00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:13,450 He was an animal. 880 00:49:13,483 --> 00:49:18,221 Like a demon from the depths of the Earth, The Shadow. 881 00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:36,707 [man] Why did Lee Haney retire after his win in 1991? 882 00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:40,577 Well, he'd he's it won it, he'd opened a gym in Atlanta. 883 00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:43,180 You know, after a while it becomes a bit like a job. 884 00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:48,752 And, of course, it's remarkable, he was 31 when he retired. 885 00:49:49,319 --> 00:49:52,356 Guys aren't winning pro cards now at 31. 886 00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:56,927 [Dorian] Now the title is open. 887 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,097 So I guess I was going in the favorite, which was just very strange 888 00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:02,199 because my whole life I'd been an underdog, 889 00:50:02,232 --> 00:50:06,436 and I used that-- that aggression of the underdog to, like, 890 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:08,205 you know, to push myself through. 891 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,844 So we went to compete in Helsinki, a building that's sitting on this-- on top 892 00:50:13,877 --> 00:50:17,748 of an ice rink, which was freezing cold, so it's hard to pump up backstage. 893 00:50:17,781 --> 00:50:22,586 And I could go backstage with him and just make sure the oil was put on properly 894 00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:26,356 and then I'd run back the stage and then sit down in the audience. 895 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:29,593 I've been to a few Olympias recently and didn't seem to have the same ambience 896 00:50:29,626 --> 00:50:31,828 that it used to. I mean there was a lot of noise, 897 00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:33,630 there was a lot more fans in the crowd. 898 00:50:33,663 --> 00:50:35,565 [audience cheering and clapping] 899 00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:37,634 [horn honking] 900 00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:43,206 I'm worried about this little light here, but when Dorian got on stage, 901 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:47,010 the lights are like that of a football pitch, they're so intense. 902 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:53,216 [Lewis] When everybody stepped on stage, 903 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:55,452 the one that first came out that looked amazing and they thought, 904 00:50:55,485 --> 00:50:58,188 "Oh my God, he might win this" was Kevin Levrone. 905 00:50:58,588 --> 00:51:00,457 Kevin looked amazing. He really did. 906 00:51:02,125 --> 00:51:05,429 [Dorian] Kevin was good, but his back and his upper body were not as good as mine. 907 00:51:05,462 --> 00:51:07,097 Balance wasn't as good. 908 00:51:07,531 --> 00:51:10,834 And Shawn and Lee, they're just too small. 909 00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:15,272 I actually it was purposely sacrificed the muscle size to come in like super shredded. 910 00:51:15,305 --> 00:51:18,875 So I wanted to be the biggest guy and the most shredded as well at the same time. 911 00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:23,647 And he came down in size some but you could tell he was just in a relentless attack 912 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,382 to try to win that title. 913 00:51:26,883 --> 00:51:29,820 There'd be a group of us from England, and I'll be blowing the blow horns. 914 00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:34,458 His training partner stayed there every time he competed, arms crossed, 915 00:51:34,491 --> 00:51:39,262 sitting there, screaming, "Educate them, Dorian! Educate them." 916 00:51:39,296 --> 00:51:43,667 He brought out a new word in this industry, it was grainy, 917 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,570 which looks like little grains of sand on your skin. 918 00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,572 It's very hard to get that look. 919 00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:50,874 You have to have death face. That's what they call it. 920 00:51:50,907 --> 00:51:55,378 When your face is so sucked in and you have absolutely no more fat left 921 00:51:55,412 --> 00:51:58,782 even on the bottom of your feet, he had a hard time walking. 922 00:51:58,815 --> 00:52:00,951 There's no pads left under your feet. 923 00:52:00,984 --> 00:52:02,419 Gone. That's that grainy look. 924 00:52:02,452 --> 00:52:08,391 His condition is what was key because he came so hard and so crisp, 925 00:52:08,425 --> 00:52:10,160 no one could topple that condition. 926 00:52:10,193 --> 00:52:14,297 And then as the show went on, Dorian got even better and Kevin just sort of faded away 927 00:52:14,831 --> 00:52:18,401 and Dorian beat him and Dorian became Mr. Olympia. 928 00:52:20,303 --> 00:52:21,705 [audience screaming] 929 00:52:22,439 --> 00:52:23,807 [man] Dorian Yates. 930 00:52:26,543 --> 00:52:29,846 [Dorian] That was my first win, which was incredible. 931 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,482 But still I didn't show any emotion. 932 00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:34,351 You'll never seem Dorian Yates cry. 933 00:52:34,384 --> 00:52:35,585 He won't cry. 934 00:52:35,619 --> 00:52:37,587 You know I know the Dorian Yates. So we talk on the phone. 935 00:52:37,621 --> 00:52:40,323 I know the real Dorian Yates. It meant everything to him. 936 00:52:40,357 --> 00:52:43,894 I remember when he won, oh, it was just fantastic. 937 00:52:47,764 --> 00:52:49,399 [audience cheering] 938 00:53:05,715 --> 00:53:07,651 [Dorian] This one, your mom with the trophies. 939 00:53:08,018 --> 00:53:11,688 Mum, your face, you look so grumpy. 940 00:53:11,721 --> 00:53:15,258 -[Debbie speaking] -Mum's saying, "Yeah, told you." 941 00:53:16,493 --> 00:53:18,795 Tahnee's definitely a chip off the old block. 942 00:53:19,763 --> 00:53:21,031 But she's got her mom's mouth. 943 00:53:21,064 --> 00:53:26,469 This is very much me, but softer and probably smarter already. 944 00:53:26,503 --> 00:53:27,671 And there's me and your mom. 945 00:53:27,704 --> 00:53:29,406 [Debbie] Oh gosh, Lewis was about one. 946 00:53:29,439 --> 00:53:36,046 It's weird for me because, for me, you know, at the time we lived in a little bubble. 947 00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:38,281 We weren't the perfect family, definitely not, 948 00:53:38,315 --> 00:53:41,384 because, you know, got this oddball 20-star dad 949 00:53:41,418 --> 00:53:43,720 and this very aggressive people of a mother. 950 00:53:43,753 --> 00:53:46,856 She-- she wasn't there like on point with everything. 951 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:48,959 [Dorian] So Debbie knew the sports, she knew what I was involved; 952 00:53:48,992 --> 00:53:52,562 she knew all the people and we also worked together as a team. 953 00:53:52,596 --> 00:53:55,398 Debbie was very supportive doing the food and 954 00:53:55,432 --> 00:53:58,668 understanding what I was doing and why I was doing it. 955 00:53:58,702 --> 00:54:01,271 He was the roper, I was the second in command. 956 00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:06,343 He went to the gym, he ate, he trained, I did the rest. 957 00:54:06,376 --> 00:54:07,944 She used to help me with the posing. 958 00:54:07,978 --> 00:54:12,282 Being as I'm not a natural mover, it was like my least favorite thing to do. 959 00:54:12,816 --> 00:54:15,652 So, Debbie was in control of that when I get ready for a contest 960 00:54:15,685 --> 00:54:18,622 to, like, tie me at hold poses for certain times. 961 00:54:18,655 --> 00:54:22,592 Like, front relaxed, I'll hold it for a few minutes and control the breathing. 962 00:54:22,626 --> 00:54:28,865 So we did a lot of work on-- on the presentation, which I think also people don't do these days. 963 00:54:29,499 --> 00:54:33,903 And there's me and Lewis in the pool, impressively around pectorals and deltoids. 964 00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:35,438 [Lewis] Yeah, yeah. 965 00:54:35,472 --> 00:54:38,675 If we're on holiday somewhere having fun, it's shortly after the Olympia. 966 00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:41,645 It was this only time I would allow that to happen. 967 00:54:42,846 --> 00:54:46,716 I have a laugh now and then but, like, to go somewhere in holiday and just- 968 00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:49,519 -but even on holiday I'll be looking for the gym. -[Debbie] Never a holiday. 969 00:54:49,552 --> 00:54:51,421 I'll be looking for the gym, where's the gym? 970 00:54:51,454 --> 00:54:52,455 There's a lot of sacrifice. 971 00:54:52,489 --> 00:54:53,990 I was not leading a normal life. 972 00:54:54,024 --> 00:54:56,426 I had no social life. No-- I was putting everything into this. 973 00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:59,396 And also the people around you, they-- they're making sacrifices. 974 00:54:59,429 --> 00:55:02,866 Family is losing time and probably more important than time is focus. 975 00:55:02,899 --> 00:55:06,670 So you could be somewhere with your family but it's like your mind is somewhere else 976 00:55:06,703 --> 00:55:09,839 if you're competing. And it's constant, you're thinking. It's like constantly with you. 977 00:55:09,873 --> 00:55:12,609 Lewis had to fit in with Dorian's life, to be fair. 978 00:55:12,642 --> 00:55:14,811 People over here, they were very particular. 979 00:55:14,844 --> 00:55:18,915 So, like, if there was anything out of the ordinary, it was-- it was freak. 980 00:55:18,948 --> 00:55:20,817 And my dad was out of the ordinary, so 981 00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:23,019 it was-- it was tough over here when I was younger. 982 00:55:23,053 --> 00:55:27,590 I almost got terror--terrorized for it, almost got bullied by-- "Oh, your dad's a..." 983 00:55:27,624 --> 00:55:30,126 The classic one was, "You do know when he stops training 984 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,828 it's all gonna turn to fat, right?" 985 00:55:31,861 --> 00:55:35,565 I am the more mothering type of person. 986 00:55:35,598 --> 00:55:37,600 Dorian's like, okay, we have a son now. 987 00:55:37,634 --> 00:55:39,202 But Dorian still did what he had to do. 988 00:55:39,235 --> 00:55:44,507 To be honest with you, he was there but he was focused on what he was doing. 989 00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:47,043 So he was there but he kind of wasn't there, you know. 990 00:55:47,077 --> 00:55:50,980 He's there in form and person but I could always tell he was somewhere else in his mind. 991 00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:53,550 So, I mean, you know, he's better than most dads. 992 00:55:53,583 --> 00:55:55,819 A lot of dads could be coming home drunk every night. 993 00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:57,787 [Lisa] Doing that with that intensity, 994 00:55:57,821 --> 00:56:00,557 it's totally consuming and I think he at that time 995 00:56:00,590 --> 00:56:02,992 probably didn't have time to think about anybody but himself 996 00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:06,196 because you're not gonna be successful, are you? Unless you do that. 997 00:56:06,229 --> 00:56:11,501 He had a controlled obsession and intensity about what he wanted to do. 998 00:56:11,534 --> 00:56:15,939 I've seen many bodybuilders with similar intensities and it's destroyed them 999 00:56:15,972 --> 00:56:20,744 because they've gone over the top and they've-- it's become a raging furnace inside them. 1000 00:56:20,777 --> 00:56:22,645 Do it! Yeah! 1001 00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:26,483 Drive! Let's go, man! Let's go! 1002 00:56:26,516 --> 00:56:27,951 Drive! 1003 00:56:27,984 --> 00:56:30,653 Yeah! You're the one, you're the one! 1004 00:56:31,154 --> 00:56:32,622 Drive that! 1005 00:56:36,693 --> 00:56:40,964 [man] Are you familiar with the change Dorian made between '91 and '93? 1006 00:56:40,997 --> 00:56:42,799 Yeah, the black and white pictures. 1007 00:56:42,832 --> 00:56:43,867 That changed bodybuilding. 1008 00:56:44,968 --> 00:56:49,506 He went from eight to ten in the mass departments. 1009 00:56:49,539 --> 00:56:51,674 [Steve] He was the first of the mass monsters. 1010 00:56:53,176 --> 00:56:55,678 And many came after him. 1011 00:56:55,712 --> 00:56:58,648 That was the phrase that came out before big guys, 1012 00:56:58,681 --> 00:57:02,919 but it was other people that used the phrase "mass monster." So maybe I am to them. 1013 00:57:02,952 --> 00:57:04,120 But it wasn't just about the mass. 1014 00:57:04,154 --> 00:57:06,823 The mass was one of the factors that I was concerned with, 1015 00:57:06,856 --> 00:57:09,559 but also conditioning and also keeping balance. 1016 00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:11,928 He took his body to where his body could have went 1017 00:57:11,961 --> 00:57:13,930 where some people just take their body 1018 00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:16,533 and throw on all kinds of muscle just to have big muscle. 1019 00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:19,702 Dorian put that muscle on to fit his frame. 1020 00:57:19,736 --> 00:57:22,038 Here's a guy that out-massed everyone. 1021 00:57:22,071 --> 00:57:24,107 Mass monsters are always great for the crowds. 1022 00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:26,876 You know, mass monsters just rule those shows. 1023 00:57:28,912 --> 00:57:33,283 [Peter] When he walked out in '93, it was like, my god, you know, 1024 00:57:33,316 --> 00:57:34,350 nobody ever seen anything like it. 1025 00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:38,054 I mean somebody said Dorian was 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 1026 00:57:38,988 --> 00:57:43,059 [King] I mean he grew so much in a year coming from '92 to '93, he improved so much. 1027 00:57:43,092 --> 00:57:47,564 [Chris] He was hard, dry, full, everything. He looked unbeatable. 1028 00:57:47,597 --> 00:57:49,532 I remember I was sitting in the audience and it was like, 1029 00:57:49,566 --> 00:57:51,000 "You might as well quit the sport now." 1030 00:57:51,034 --> 00:57:54,037 The only one he ever had to worry about was Flex Wheeler. 1031 00:57:55,038 --> 00:57:58,041 Flex, genetically, he is the most gifted of all bodybuilders. 1032 00:57:58,074 --> 00:57:59,943 Dorian was not the most gifted. 1033 00:57:59,976 --> 00:58:01,377 He didn't have the best shape. 1034 00:58:01,411 --> 00:58:06,783 But he was the hardest-working, no messing around, all work no play. 1035 00:58:06,816 --> 00:58:09,285 He was a-- he really was a robot. He was an animal. 1036 00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:12,622 Dorian said Flex was the only one he really worried about. 1037 00:58:12,655 --> 00:58:18,228 Flex gives a different story. He said he used to walk out and I was just intimidated. 1038 00:58:18,261 --> 00:58:21,064 [King] If Flex had the-- the-- the determination of Dorian, 1039 00:58:21,097 --> 00:58:23,633 I don't know if Dorian would have 6 Mr. Olympias, to tell you the truth. 1040 00:58:23,666 --> 00:58:26,002 He knew they had better genetics. 1041 00:58:26,035 --> 00:58:29,138 That's why he never missed a rep, never missed a meal. 1042 00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:30,273 He knew he had to do it. 1043 00:58:30,306 --> 00:58:34,244 He couldn't slip. He knew the genetics outpaced his. 1044 00:58:34,277 --> 00:58:37,313 Come on! Yes! 1045 00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:38,681 Hold it down! 1046 00:58:38,715 --> 00:58:42,018 I think Shawn's best shot was '94, you know, when he was second. 1047 00:58:44,053 --> 00:58:45,955 He looked really good, but he shouldn't have won. 1048 00:58:45,989 --> 00:58:47,557 The right guy won. 1049 00:58:47,924 --> 00:58:51,594 [Peter] Shawn Ray was the California boy with a Ferrari 1050 00:58:51,628 --> 00:58:53,696 and the girls and the Sunshine and- 1051 00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:55,431 and he prided himself on being the opposite. 1052 00:58:55,465 --> 00:58:59,769 Shawn wanted to tailor too. Shawn was an extraordinary bodybuilder in his own right. 1053 00:58:59,802 --> 00:59:01,371 But he also had a long torso and short legs. 1054 00:59:01,404 --> 00:59:04,774 He wasn't that symmetrical as he'd like to think he was. 1055 00:59:04,807 --> 00:59:08,645 Shawn was always questioning something why I should be Mr. Olympia and he shouldn't. 1056 00:59:09,112 --> 00:59:12,949 I think one of Shawn's things one time was Dorian's physique is too extreme, 1057 00:59:12,982 --> 00:59:15,218 it's too far out for the average person to reach. 1058 00:59:15,251 --> 00:59:17,787 That just sounded like fucking nonsense to me. 1059 00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:19,989 "Mr. Bolt, can you slow down a bit please 1060 00:59:20,023 --> 00:59:21,124 while we put somebody else in the first place 1061 00:59:21,157 --> 00:59:23,026 because you're running too fast for the average guy?" 1062 00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:24,661 I can't relate to that. 1063 00:59:24,694 --> 00:59:28,131 I'll be honest with, you, like, I wasn't super impressed with his whole aesthetics 1064 00:59:28,164 --> 00:59:32,068 or his physique until I went to that '95 Olympia in Atlanta. 1065 00:59:32,101 --> 00:59:33,770 And when he came out, the show was over. 1066 00:59:33,803 --> 00:59:37,907 [Steve] '95 is when he made the big turnaround where he turned into a complete monster. 1067 00:59:37,941 --> 00:59:40,410 I would say personally my best year on the Mr. Olympia 1068 00:59:40,443 --> 00:59:45,648 was in between '93 and '95. Both of-- I was very happy with both years. 1069 00:59:47,050 --> 00:59:49,986 [Jay] His back was his strong point. Anyone would agree with that. 1070 00:59:50,019 --> 00:59:52,655 [King] It was just layers and layers of muscle. 1071 00:59:52,689 --> 00:59:56,826 [Chris] He'd do like this fast last, boo, like boom, he'd bring it up like that. 1072 00:59:56,859 --> 01:00:00,263 I don't know if there's ever been a Mr. Olympia like that that size back. 1073 01:00:00,296 --> 01:00:01,931 I mean Dorian Yates had it all. 1074 01:00:01,965 --> 01:00:04,667 He had the condition, the size, the balance. He had- 1075 01:00:04,701 --> 01:00:07,036 he had everything that was in the winner's circle. 1076 01:00:18,081 --> 01:00:19,148 [Emanuel] That's right. 1077 01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:24,020 Okay there, keep on doing. 1078 01:00:24,053 --> 01:00:26,222 My full name is Emanuel Poggio. 1079 01:00:26,255 --> 01:00:28,891 And I knew Dorian through his wife 1080 01:00:28,925 --> 01:00:31,828 because he was having pain on the left shoulder. 1081 01:00:31,861 --> 01:00:36,199 [Dorian] Basically, I got a torn supraspinatus. 1082 01:00:36,232 --> 01:00:39,268 A damaged AC joint on this shoulder, a torn bicep, 1083 01:00:39,302 --> 01:00:41,938 and a torn tricep all on the same side. So, 1084 01:00:42,872 --> 01:00:45,274 it's very, very weak on this side and through the joint. 1085 01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:48,911 So anything I was doing is just was referring to the other side 1086 01:00:48,945 --> 01:00:50,880 and I started getting pain on the other side. 1087 01:00:50,913 --> 01:00:52,749 So that's when I started working with Manu. 1088 01:00:53,816 --> 01:00:55,685 Okay, stop. Great. 1089 01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:57,720 Hold the extension all the time. 1090 01:00:57,754 --> 01:01:02,792 What we're doing basically work to make him more functional to try to make him work 1091 01:01:02,825 --> 01:01:06,129 not just in one plane of movement, make him work in three dimensions. 1092 01:01:06,162 --> 01:01:08,197 So rotate and stuff like that. 1093 01:01:08,231 --> 01:01:10,967 [Dorian] We can't fix the fact that I've got a torn rotator cuff 1094 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,036 and a torn bicep and tricep muscles. 1095 01:01:13,069 --> 01:01:15,738 They are going to be permanently weak and a little bit of atrophy 1096 01:01:15,772 --> 01:01:17,340 to the other side. 1097 01:01:17,373 --> 01:01:18,908 We can't do anything about that, but just trying to get things working together 1098 01:01:18,941 --> 01:01:23,513 better than they were and not able to do very heavy training for upper body. 1099 01:01:23,546 --> 01:01:25,014 So I enjoy this. 1100 01:01:25,048 --> 01:01:27,250 This is a different-- different kind of a challenge and more practical 1101 01:01:27,283 --> 01:01:29,085 for what I need now, I think. 1102 01:01:30,086 --> 01:01:33,823 You know everyone's got an ego and he couldn't hold back, so that's- 1103 01:01:33,856 --> 01:01:34,957 that's why he got the injuries. 1104 01:01:34,991 --> 01:01:36,592 He could have avoided them and still won the Olympia. 1105 01:01:36,626 --> 01:01:41,164 But for him it was-- it was a war in the gym and he wasn't gonna lose that war. 1106 01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:42,999 [man] Get it up! 1107 01:01:43,032 --> 01:01:44,167 Do it again! 1108 01:01:44,934 --> 01:01:45,835 Great! 1109 01:01:46,202 --> 01:01:47,837 Come on. Let's go strong! 1110 01:01:48,938 --> 01:01:52,041 Get it up. Rack it. You can get it up! 1111 01:02:45,361 --> 01:02:46,796 Steve Weinberger from the States, 1112 01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:50,333 he said maybe stop with this crazy fucking heavy training all the time 1113 01:02:50,366 --> 01:02:54,303 and just ease back and maintain this thing and earn your money, 1114 01:02:54,337 --> 01:02:57,073 that's what you should do. But I wanted to push a little more. 1115 01:02:58,307 --> 01:03:01,144 Who knows, I'm in uncharted territory, nobody had been there. 1116 01:03:01,177 --> 01:03:02,145 At that point you couldn't talk to Dorian. 1117 01:03:02,178 --> 01:03:03,646 I think he was a very successful bodybuilder 1118 01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:07,583 that-- that knew it brought him to the dance and he wasn't gonna change. 1119 01:03:07,617 --> 01:03:09,152 I don't think anyone could have stopped him. 1120 01:03:09,185 --> 01:03:11,988 But you know what, it's-- it's also a Monday morning quarterback, you know, 1121 01:03:12,021 --> 01:03:15,291 should have you passed to-- your tight end or your wide receiver, 1122 01:03:15,324 --> 01:03:18,194 you know, it's-- it's so much easier after the fact. 1123 01:03:19,095 --> 01:03:22,899 Just think about that. I mean this is-- this is what brought you to six Mr. Olympias, 1124 01:03:22,932 --> 01:03:27,103 why would you change it? You've got to work what takes you to the ball. 1125 01:03:27,136 --> 01:03:29,906 Little injuries he's had which he knew he could cope with. 1126 01:03:29,939 --> 01:03:35,311 And we had a good team of friends who was like physios and a good team around us. 1127 01:03:36,345 --> 01:03:40,416 I remember standing behind the bar at the old Temple Gym. 1128 01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:46,189 I heard this massive tear and it was his tricep coming off. 1129 01:03:48,024 --> 01:03:51,127 And it was two weeks out from the Olympia and he said," I'll give up." 1130 01:03:53,996 --> 01:03:56,899 It was so bad, he said there's no way I can get through this one. 1131 01:03:56,933 --> 01:03:58,935 Next morning he changed his mind. 1132 01:03:58,968 --> 01:04:02,004 He was gonna do everything to get him the Olympia. 1133 01:04:04,106 --> 01:04:06,943 The contest that year '97 was in Long Beach. 1134 01:04:06,976 --> 01:04:10,980 The swelling had all gone down but his tricep was the color of the rainbow. 1135 01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:13,015 Every color you could think was in there. 1136 01:04:13,049 --> 01:04:15,351 He says, "But we can fix that with a tan." 1137 01:04:15,384 --> 01:04:20,356 The '97 Mr. Olympia, all these circumstances going in there were less than ideal. 1138 01:04:20,389 --> 01:04:24,393 And I presented a physique that could have been better if I hadn't had all these problems. 1139 01:04:26,596 --> 01:04:29,665 Of course, the great conjecture there was, everybody saw Nasser was the winner. 1140 01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:31,534 A lot of people saw Nasser was the winner. 1141 01:04:31,567 --> 01:04:34,136 [Chris] You know, he gave-- he gave him a strong run for the money. 1142 01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:37,106 But Nasser didn't have anything and when he turned around to the back, 1143 01:04:37,139 --> 01:04:38,574 he was this all front thickness. 1144 01:04:39,175 --> 01:04:41,911 [Peter] So Nasser wins the first two poses. 1145 01:04:42,411 --> 01:04:46,415 But then Dorian turns the side and the back and it's all over. 1146 01:04:49,619 --> 01:04:53,322 I still think before that he still was a clear-cut winner and he was still a clear-cut winner 1147 01:04:53,356 --> 01:04:55,958 with Nasser, but they were getting closer. 1148 01:04:55,992 --> 01:05:00,596 [man] Six-time Mr. Olympia, Dorian Yates! 1149 01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:02,298 [audience cheering] 1150 01:05:03,399 --> 01:05:06,102 And the minute he got offstage, he collapsed. 1151 01:05:10,106 --> 01:05:15,411 We came back home and then we booked a surgeon in New York, 1152 01:05:15,444 --> 01:05:18,147 went over there, had the operation. 1153 01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:20,650 But there was also a small tear in the muscle, 1154 01:05:20,683 --> 01:05:22,285 which was changing the shape and the mechanics. 1155 01:05:22,318 --> 01:05:27,290 So after about five or six months, I was getting back into some serious training 1156 01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:32,161 and there was a huge difference in the inner strength from left to right 1157 01:05:32,194 --> 01:05:36,065 and there was just so much imbalance that I knew that I couldn't train properly 1158 01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,434 and I couldn't-- it wouldn't be possible for me to compete 1159 01:05:38,467 --> 01:05:41,604 and even to achieve what I had before, let alone trying to improve on it. 1160 01:05:41,637 --> 01:05:47,243 So it was the logical decision at that point to retire at the top and be the champion. 1161 01:05:47,276 --> 01:05:51,747 He knew that he wanted to leave a legacy and leaving a legacy 1162 01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:57,620 sometimes is knowing when to withdraw from the field of battle. 1163 01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:09,031 He was searching different avenues then in life and-- 1164 01:06:09,065 --> 01:06:11,600 and I thought, "Oh great, we can get to do things we couldn't do 1165 01:06:11,634 --> 01:06:13,703 'cause he was always competing or traveling," 1166 01:06:14,303 --> 01:06:16,405 and just didn't quite pan out. 1167 01:06:16,439 --> 01:06:17,707 It was hard on both of us. 1168 01:06:17,740 --> 01:06:19,108 Why does anyone get a divorce? 1169 01:06:19,141 --> 01:06:23,112 That's a huge complex question that's not really easy to answer. 1170 01:06:23,145 --> 01:06:27,316 The-- the best way I can answer is that we got together when we were very young 1171 01:06:27,683 --> 01:06:30,486 and we grew up and we-- we grew apart. 1172 01:06:32,188 --> 01:06:33,189 Quite a lot. 1173 01:06:34,323 --> 01:06:37,259 Because he wanted to do things but not with his wife. 1174 01:06:37,293 --> 01:06:41,564 And then when little Lee died, that just totally shook our world apart. 1175 01:06:51,374 --> 01:06:55,144 We was in London at the time, it was the day before Dorian's birthday. 1176 01:06:55,177 --> 01:06:57,380 My mum phoned me and said Lee's dead. 1177 01:06:57,413 --> 01:07:01,584 Majorly affected him, the family, me and everything and that's-- 1178 01:07:01,617 --> 01:07:05,388 that's when the divorce started and, you know, I think it just shook things up. 1179 01:07:05,421 --> 01:07:10,159 A retirement can lead to depression because you've lost your focus, your vocation. 1180 01:07:10,192 --> 01:07:12,395 A divorce can lead to depression. 1181 01:07:12,428 --> 01:07:15,197 A death of somebody close to you can lead to depression. 1182 01:07:15,231 --> 01:07:18,768 And also it's a fact that if you'd stopped taking steroids, it can lead to depression. 1183 01:07:18,801 --> 01:07:22,238 So like a perfect storm of depression. 1184 01:07:22,271 --> 01:07:26,375 All the things that can cause depression, let's just tell them all at the same time. 1185 01:07:26,409 --> 01:07:28,844 He doesn't like to admit any kind of weakness ever, you know. 1186 01:07:28,878 --> 01:07:34,250 But he had a hard time because he'd spent his whole life, yeah? Doing this one thing. 1187 01:07:34,283 --> 01:07:36,552 And suddenly there was no reason for it. 1188 01:07:36,585 --> 01:07:40,289 And he told me afterwards, these few years later, you know, he says, 1189 01:07:41,457 --> 01:07:43,859 "I just stopped the drug straightaway and that was a mistake." 1190 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:49,698 Steroids are a tool that I'm using for my professional sport and it's a necessary. 1191 01:07:49,732 --> 01:07:53,869 So, when I'm not competing anymore, I won't take the steroids anymore 1192 01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:55,504 and I just stopped. 1193 01:07:55,538 --> 01:07:56,739 I just stopped. 1194 01:07:56,772 --> 01:07:59,775 A couple of years later I realized I need, my testosterone 1195 01:07:59,809 --> 01:08:02,178 was low and that was affecting me. 1196 01:08:02,211 --> 01:08:03,746 First of all, the circumstances. 1197 01:08:03,779 --> 01:08:06,382 So then I went on to testosterone replacement 1198 01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:08,617 and that's probably what I should have done from day one 1199 01:08:08,651 --> 01:08:10,319 if I'd been on steroids for that long. 1200 01:08:10,352 --> 01:08:14,423 But I thought, you know, not that old, I'm 34, 35, 1201 01:08:14,457 --> 01:08:17,693 probably maybe it can bounce back but it didn't. 1202 01:08:17,726 --> 01:08:19,762 So that wasn't a good-- a good idea. 1203 01:08:20,629 --> 01:08:21,764 It was just horrible. 1204 01:08:21,797 --> 01:08:23,265 But then I found out I was pregnant with our daughter. 1205 01:08:23,299 --> 01:08:27,336 We're sharing the same house and filing our separation and our divorce, 1206 01:08:27,369 --> 01:08:28,737 but things kind of happened in the night. 1207 01:08:28,771 --> 01:08:30,673 But now I feel so blessed 1208 01:08:31,507 --> 01:08:33,676 that both of those kids came in. 1209 01:08:49,658 --> 01:08:51,727 The partying, wow. 1210 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,963 I don't think I want to get into too much of that. 1211 01:08:53,996 --> 01:09:00,536 Take that discipline and that insanity for bodybuilding and put it into partying. 1212 01:09:00,569 --> 01:09:04,573 He went from being a monk to playboy of the Western world, you know. 1213 01:09:04,607 --> 01:09:05,841 It's the best way to describe it. 1214 01:09:05,875 --> 01:09:09,245 A lot of fun, lot of parties, dated a lot of different women. 1215 01:09:09,278 --> 01:09:12,314 Was a lot of parties around the bodybuilding scene, which I didn't even know. 1216 01:09:12,348 --> 01:09:15,851 Also I was good friends with Chris Cormier and he was the party king of bodybuilding. 1217 01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:19,421 He didn't do anything but give it for that title when he was competing. 1218 01:09:19,455 --> 01:09:24,460 And, you know, myself, I was like I'm young, I'm gonna do this stuff right now. 1219 01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:27,663 There were some crazy parties in New York and Vegas. 1220 01:09:27,696 --> 01:09:29,365 [Peter] I still remember him being an Olympia 1221 01:09:29,398 --> 01:09:32,902 and they're coming through the Mandalay Bay, him and Chris Cormier and a few others. 1222 01:09:32,935 --> 01:09:38,407 They're all doing this, dancing, ah, there he goes. 1223 01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:39,341 Hi-de-hi. 1224 01:09:39,375 --> 01:09:41,310 He went off the deep edge, in my opinion. 1225 01:09:41,944 --> 01:09:44,580 Ecstasy was the thing and everyone took ecstasy. 1226 01:09:44,613 --> 01:09:48,450 So, I'll tell you, it's not a bad drug, you have a great time; 1227 01:09:48,484 --> 01:09:50,019 you don't really get hung over. 1228 01:09:50,052 --> 01:09:52,855 And later on, there's alcohol and cocaine. 1229 01:09:52,888 --> 01:09:58,561 I mean I remember me and my dad going and-- and we're partying together and at some point, 1230 01:09:58,594 --> 01:10:01,797 at 3:00 in the morning, we're looking at each other thinking, "This is right?" 1231 01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:03,265 [laughing] 1232 01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:06,835 That's a laugh. That is insane. 1233 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:09,905 We've had an interesting run. 1234 01:10:10,739 --> 01:10:11,740 Cheers! 1235 01:10:13,676 --> 01:10:15,377 Kind of retired from the drinking games. 1236 01:10:15,411 --> 01:10:16,579 I'm going soft, you know. 1237 01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:18,581 Please don't poke me. 1238 01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:20,282 It's a Wednesday. 1239 01:10:20,316 --> 01:10:23,586 Eight years ago I'd beat anybody at drinking, including my son, 1240 01:10:23,619 --> 01:10:25,287 although he has a great capacity. 1241 01:10:25,321 --> 01:10:26,422 Respect to that. 1242 01:10:26,455 --> 01:10:27,656 But I will beat him. 1243 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:30,326 Just because I'm a local like that. 1244 01:10:32,661 --> 01:10:36,365 But, yeah, that was strange because then dad had to go find himself. 1245 01:10:36,398 --> 01:10:38,934 Obviously, there was other women and whatnot. 1246 01:10:38,968 --> 01:10:42,471 And, you know, you have to chop through the weeds to find a flower. 1247 01:10:42,504 --> 01:10:45,074 So he went-- he went gardening. 1248 01:10:45,107 --> 01:10:49,878 I was the one who brought him a wakeup call, you know, for some things. 1249 01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:54,850 Was doing party sometimes and women and all this stuff. 1250 01:10:54,883 --> 01:10:57,786 And the more-- I mean, kind of like quiet. 1251 01:10:57,820 --> 01:11:00,756 I like parties and all these things sometimes, but 1252 01:11:00,789 --> 01:11:03,859 sometimes you have to have some priorities in life. 1253 01:11:03,892 --> 01:11:07,596 You know, him and Gal seemed to be a really good match for each other. 1254 01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:11,567 And the funny thing is he went back to Brazil for Christmas or something 1255 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,936 and he sent a photograph, you know, of the family. 1256 01:11:13,969 --> 01:11:17,373 And, of course, they're all typical Brazilians with dark hair and everything. 1257 01:11:17,406 --> 01:11:21,744 I said, "Look at that, you're the whitest guy in the room." 1258 01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:26,115 And he says, "I'm always the whitest guy in the room, unless Dennis Wolf is there." 1259 01:11:26,148 --> 01:11:28,617 [laughing] 'Cause he's really white. 1260 01:11:31,553 --> 01:11:32,755 [Dorian] When Gal came into my life, 1261 01:11:32,788 --> 01:11:36,058 I was in a wild phase of kind of running away from everything 1262 01:11:36,091 --> 01:11:38,594 because I didn't know who I was. So I became this guy 1263 01:11:38,627 --> 01:11:41,096 that just wanted to have a good time, right? 1264 01:11:41,797 --> 01:11:44,433 And, you know, drug use and 1265 01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:49,004 multiple girlfriends and all this ego shit. 1266 01:11:49,605 --> 01:11:55,477 And Gal is the one that was there when I accidentally overdosed on GHB 1267 01:11:55,511 --> 01:12:00,649 and I was passed out choking on my own vomit and I was dying, man. 1268 01:12:00,683 --> 01:12:04,620 And she-- she woke me up and she'd just been in England, she barely spoke English, 1269 01:12:04,653 --> 01:12:06,055 there's no one else there to help. 1270 01:12:06,088 --> 01:12:09,591 Fortunately, she managed to call one friend of mine that she knew. 1271 01:12:09,625 --> 01:12:13,662 And if she wasn't there, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. 1272 01:12:13,696 --> 01:12:15,798 So I'm really grateful that she came along. 1273 01:12:30,879 --> 01:12:34,750 [Peter] He never spoke to me about his father for a long, long time. 1274 01:12:34,783 --> 01:12:38,687 He didn't discuss much about the first years living in the country. 1275 01:12:38,721 --> 01:12:42,491 It's something, obviously, when think about it, you-- you're right, he's trying to get away 1276 01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:46,161 from that, it wasn't something he wanted to spend too much time reflecting on. 1277 01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:50,032 In fact, I don't think his mother and him ever made it up. 1278 01:12:50,065 --> 01:12:54,036 I think they did meet a couple of times, but it was never warm. 1279 01:12:54,069 --> 01:12:57,072 I started really training for contests when I was 21 1280 01:12:57,106 --> 01:13:01,110 and I wasn't living with my mom and actually we didn't see each other that much. 1281 01:13:01,143 --> 01:13:03,579 So, we didn't talk about it really. 1282 01:13:03,612 --> 01:13:06,782 I even think Lewis was about six months old before I told my mom, 1283 01:13:06,815 --> 01:13:09,551 "Hey, by the way, mom, you've got a grandchild." 1284 01:13:09,585 --> 01:13:12,821 This is where my mom's grave is, if you want to take a little walk here. 1285 01:13:32,007 --> 01:13:35,644 So, she was 57, like my age. 1286 01:13:36,145 --> 01:13:39,882 So my dad passed away at 42, my mom was 57. 1287 01:13:40,582 --> 01:13:41,784 Pretty young really. 1288 01:13:43,051 --> 01:13:47,022 My mom passed away from complications from multiple sclerosis. 1289 01:13:47,623 --> 01:13:50,626 But it's degenerative, you know, you slowly get worse and worse 1290 01:13:50,659 --> 01:13:52,528 and she was losing more function. 1291 01:13:53,061 --> 01:13:57,633 An active woman who'd ride horses all her life and walk all day, 1292 01:13:57,666 --> 01:14:03,472 and so it must have been tough to lose your physical capabilities. 1293 01:14:05,541 --> 01:14:09,278 I don't know, I kind of feel that she would be happy to-- to leave 1294 01:14:09,311 --> 01:14:12,114 at that point because her body was not functioning very well. 1295 01:14:12,147 --> 01:14:16,819 So, maybe it was time for her to-- to pass over, you know. 1296 01:14:25,127 --> 01:14:27,229 My dad died from a heart attack, so it was very sudden. 1297 01:14:27,262 --> 01:14:29,965 And he went to work and he died at work and that was it. 1298 01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:35,637 There's no good time to lose a parent but to lose your father at 13 is a pivotal. 1299 01:14:35,671 --> 01:14:41,310 And you'd just becoming into puberty, just becoming a man and you need your father for, 1300 01:14:41,343 --> 01:14:42,644 you know, to be there for all that stuff. 1301 01:14:42,678 --> 01:14:47,015 And if my father had been there, maybe my whole life trajectory 1302 01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:49,952 would have been different than it is now and 1303 01:14:51,019 --> 01:14:54,790 maybe I would never would have been a bodybuilder and been a Mr. Olympia and so on. 1304 01:14:54,823 --> 01:14:59,928 And I think a lot of that drive came from not having that comfort, 1305 01:14:59,962 --> 01:15:03,999 you know, the family security and that a lot of people have. 1306 01:15:04,032 --> 01:15:07,569 You have to have an unusual drive to want to become the best in the world 1307 01:15:07,603 --> 01:15:09,705 of a sport or probably anything, I guess. 1308 01:15:12,941 --> 01:15:15,777 I think you know what, when Dorian competed, 1309 01:15:16,945 --> 01:15:18,814 his mind frame was so different. 1310 01:15:18,847 --> 01:15:20,415 I could relate to him. 1311 01:15:20,449 --> 01:15:24,686 I understood where he was going and what he was doing and what his goals were. 1312 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,255 This was a guy that would, you know, 1313 01:15:26,288 --> 01:15:29,858 would go into a gym and tear it apart, he'd be eating dumbbells for breakfast. 1314 01:15:29,892 --> 01:15:32,661 And Dorian today, I mean I talk to him on the phone, 1315 01:15:33,061 --> 01:15:36,164 I mean he wants me to try some of his Costa Rica stuff 1316 01:15:36,198 --> 01:15:38,367 which I just maybe-- maybe it would help me. 1317 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,337 Like, he tries to get me to go there and I'm just like, "Nah, I think I'll pass," 1318 01:15:42,938 --> 01:15:45,340 or "I have a show that day." I just-- I don't know if that's me. 1319 01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:50,112 I mean, I think he's evolved and I see-- I still think maybe I didn't evolve. 1320 01:15:50,145 --> 01:15:53,949 Maybe he's, you know, once again, he sees something that I don't see 1321 01:15:53,982 --> 01:15:55,684 like he saw it back then. But 1322 01:15:55,717 --> 01:15:57,686 I think it just shows you he has balls. 1323 01:15:59,454 --> 01:16:01,623 He doesn't care what-- you know, most people would be like, "Dorian, what are you doing?" 1324 01:16:01,657 --> 01:16:03,158 He doesn't care. 1325 01:16:03,191 --> 01:16:06,628 Dorian does what Dorian wants to do and that's a great way to lead your life. 1326 01:16:06,662 --> 01:16:08,030 [birds chirping] 1327 01:16:22,778 --> 01:16:24,980 [Dorian] It's a spiritual journey I am on. 1328 01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:31,086 And, you know, the big questions that we all ask or we should all ask, 1329 01:16:31,119 --> 01:16:33,822 why are we here? What are we doing? 1330 01:16:33,855 --> 01:16:36,158 Where did I come from? Where am I going? What's it all about? 1331 01:16:36,191 --> 01:16:39,995 And psychedelics are a tool that you can use 1332 01:16:40,028 --> 01:16:44,199 to open the door to this world and to be able to learn more. 1333 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:50,238 I've done DMT, LSD, mushrooms, I've tried them all at-- at some point. 1334 01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:53,976 And then ayahuasca, it's two plants mixed together, 1335 01:16:54,009 --> 01:16:59,881 and it's been used in South American cultures for hundreds, maybe thousands of years 1336 01:16:59,915 --> 01:17:05,921 as a tool to communicate with the spiritual world, if you like, 1337 01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:08,123 and as a tool for healing as well. 1338 01:17:13,996 --> 01:17:19,201 Let's say that we are in a room and that's all we know. 1339 01:17:19,234 --> 01:17:22,738 That's all of reality we know that all that exists is this room. 1340 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,308 But now we've got a trampoline 1341 01:17:27,042 --> 01:17:29,177 and you go on the trampoline and you jump 1342 01:17:29,211 --> 01:17:31,446 and you manage to see over the wall 1343 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:35,851 and over the wall is a whole world out there that you didn't even know about. 1344 01:17:35,884 --> 01:17:40,255 In fact, it didn't even exist in your mind because all you know is this. 1345 01:17:40,288 --> 01:17:42,090 That's psychedelics. 1346 01:17:42,891 --> 01:17:45,293 It will take you out of this reality and show you much more 1347 01:17:45,327 --> 01:17:48,797 and then you know without a doubt there is much more. 1348 01:17:51,166 --> 01:17:52,934 [faint whistling] 1349 01:18:07,115 --> 01:18:09,251 [chanting] 1350 01:18:48,156 --> 01:18:50,125 [faint whistling echoing] 1351 01:19:08,477 --> 01:19:10,378 [various noises] 1352 01:19:29,397 --> 01:19:32,200 Yeah, this is the corner here. 1353 01:19:37,472 --> 01:19:38,440 Hello. 1354 01:19:38,473 --> 01:19:39,508 How are you? 1355 01:19:40,175 --> 01:19:41,910 -How are you? -[woman] How are you? 1356 01:19:41,943 --> 01:19:43,278 -I'm here. -Mr. Yates. 1357 01:19:43,311 --> 01:19:44,579 I am, yeah. How'd you know that? 1358 01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:46,047 We bought it off from your mom. 1359 01:19:46,081 --> 01:19:48,183 Ah! Yeah, I'm Dorian Yates. 1360 01:19:48,216 --> 01:19:50,085 -I used to live here. -Yes. 1361 01:19:50,118 --> 01:19:51,419 What's all this? 1362 01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:53,622 They are making a documentary about my life. 1363 01:19:53,655 --> 01:19:57,392 So we're going to all, you know, this is where I grew up and everything like that. 1364 01:19:57,425 --> 01:19:58,593 Are you famous now? 1365 01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:02,197 A little bit, yeah. I was a world champion bodybuilder. 1366 01:20:02,230 --> 01:20:03,765 -Yeah? -Yeah. So... 1367 01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:10,438 When you first met him, you thought his mind is somewhere else and now he's here 1368 01:20:10,472 --> 01:20:16,111 present and joking and laughing and witty and he's quite a funny guy. 1369 01:20:17,946 --> 01:20:21,616 [Peter] I think he's been away long enough now that his legacy is established, 1370 01:20:21,650 --> 01:20:28,223 he's still revered by people who never saw him compete, who see him like I said before as this- 1371 01:20:29,090 --> 01:20:32,661 in the trenches, working-class hero, did it his way, 1372 01:20:32,694 --> 01:20:34,596 never came to America. 1373 01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:36,064 He was never driven by the money. 1374 01:20:36,097 --> 01:20:38,266 He never mentioned money winning for anything. 1375 01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:40,969 I don't think he even knew what the prize money was for the Olympia 1376 01:20:41,002 --> 01:20:42,537 the first time he won it. 1377 01:20:42,571 --> 01:20:47,909 It's remarkable to think that it is 22 years this year since he last competed. 1378 01:20:47,943 --> 01:20:54,416 He set the standard of what Mr. Olympia should do in the gym. 1379 01:20:54,449 --> 01:20:58,019 Dorian Yates is the true training champion. 1380 01:20:58,053 --> 01:21:02,357 Those guys out there with better genetics, definitely, 100 percent, you know. 1381 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:06,394 But not with the mental power, not with the application, 1382 01:21:06,428 --> 01:21:09,531 not with the-- the religious monk-style behavior. 1383 01:21:09,564 --> 01:21:12,334 You mix that all in a pot and it's gonna be serious. 1384 01:21:12,367 --> 01:21:18,173 Dorian is everything to do with intensity and passion, 1385 01:21:19,107 --> 01:21:21,509 hard work and focus, 1386 01:21:21,543 --> 01:21:27,482 all these things, you know, that we need to having life to be-- to be a winner. 1387 01:21:27,515 --> 01:21:30,719 And then he was able to walk away from it with no regrets. 1388 01:21:30,752 --> 01:21:33,421 He did it his way in that-- that aspect. 1389 01:21:34,489 --> 01:21:36,992 No Benny's beach in Birmingham. It's a shithole. 1390 01:21:37,025 --> 01:21:38,593 But he went over there and kicked their ass. 1391 01:21:38,627 --> 01:21:39,828 That takes some doing. 1392 01:21:39,861 --> 01:21:43,632 And still remain the man he is, Dorian Yates, king of kings. 1393 01:21:43,665 --> 01:21:44,966 Fantastic. 1394 01:21:46,468 --> 01:21:49,704 [Dorian] In regards to bodybuilding, well, I am six times the Mr. Olympia 1395 01:21:49,738 --> 01:21:52,607 and I'll always be part of bodybuilding and it'll always be part of me. 1396 01:21:52,641 --> 01:21:58,413 But the differences between me and a lot of people is it isn't my life. 1397 01:21:58,446 --> 01:22:03,151 But I feel immense, immense pride in what I was able to achieve. 1398 01:22:03,184 --> 01:22:06,154 It was like almost unbelievable, even still now. 1399 01:22:06,187 --> 01:22:11,359 If I go back and say I came from here in an apartment, I had no car, 1400 01:22:11,393 --> 01:22:16,064 I had no furniture and just through my will and through my effort 1401 01:22:16,097 --> 01:22:19,301 I was able to change that and to the life that I have now 1402 01:22:19,334 --> 01:22:23,204 and, you know, travel all around the world and being known by millions of people 1403 01:22:23,238 --> 01:22:28,076 all around the world, it's a-- it's a great story and I lived it. 1404 01:22:43,358 --> 01:22:44,559 -Good? -[man] Yeah, you like it? 1405 01:22:44,592 --> 01:22:45,360 Nice. 1406 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,735 There you go. 1407 01:22:53,768 --> 01:22:55,136 Cheers! 1408 01:22:56,137 --> 01:22:57,572 ♪ I'm the definition 1409 01:22:59,674 --> 01:23:01,476 ♪ Of nothing is something 1410 01:23:04,713 --> 01:23:05,680 ♪ Blood and Guts 1411 01:23:07,415 --> 01:23:09,384 ♪ I really came from the dirt 1412 01:23:09,417 --> 01:23:11,052 ♪ I really came from the dirt 1413 01:23:11,086 --> 01:23:12,253 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 1414 01:23:12,287 --> 01:23:13,788 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 1415 01:23:13,822 --> 01:23:15,190 ♪ I really put it in that work 1416 01:23:15,223 --> 01:23:16,524 ♪ I really put it in that work 1417 01:23:16,558 --> 01:23:17,826 ♪ All blood and all guts 1418 01:23:17,859 --> 01:23:19,394 ♪ All Blood and all guts 1419 01:23:19,427 --> 01:23:20,562 ♪ I don't give a fuck 1420 01:23:20,595 --> 01:23:23,431 ♪ I'm from the slum Slim to none is the salary ♪ 1421 01:23:23,465 --> 01:23:26,401 ♪ Fussing from someone To make you a casualty ♪ 1422 01:23:26,434 --> 01:23:29,404 ♪ And saw the dream And the nightmares reality ♪ 1423 01:23:29,437 --> 01:23:32,273 ♪ Watching my family and friends Become fatalities ♪ 1424 01:23:32,307 --> 01:23:34,709 ♪ I lost my father Then I lost myself ♪ 1425 01:23:34,743 --> 01:23:36,344 ♪ Lost my freedom And found a purpose ♪ 1426 01:23:36,378 --> 01:23:37,512 ♪ Then I freed myself 1427 01:23:37,545 --> 01:23:40,315 ♪ So it's safe to say I climbed up out of the grave ♪ 1428 01:23:40,348 --> 01:23:43,351 ♪ Almost to never ever ever See free light in the day ♪ 1429 01:23:43,385 --> 01:23:46,421 ♪ So if you wonder why I act This way and so focused ♪ 1430 01:23:46,454 --> 01:23:48,423 ♪ 'Cause I'm right around The corner from hell ♪ 1431 01:23:48,456 --> 01:23:49,758 ♪ If you haven't noticed 1432 01:23:49,791 --> 01:23:52,293 -♪ I really came to win -Yeah, wasn't too bad. 1433 01:23:52,327 --> 01:23:55,096 ♪ There can only be one and We ain't come to make friends ♪ 1434 01:23:55,130 --> 01:23:56,131 ♪ You got options 1435 01:23:56,164 --> 01:23:58,400 ♪ But my only options Is I have nothing ♪ 1436 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,369 ♪ So for it all I give it all Until I have something ♪ 1437 01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:04,139 ♪ I ain't here For your accolades ♪ 1438 01:24:04,172 --> 01:24:06,207 ♪ I ain't here for your Fame and your praise ♪ 1439 01:24:06,241 --> 01:24:07,675 ♪ I really came from the dirt 1440 01:24:07,709 --> 01:24:09,210 ♪ I really came from the dirt 1441 01:24:09,244 --> 01:24:10,678 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 1442 01:24:10,712 --> 01:24:12,414 ♪ I really got it From the road ♪ 1443 01:24:12,447 --> 01:24:13,448 ♪ I really put it in that work 1444 01:24:13,481 --> 01:24:15,183 ♪ I really put it in that work 1445 01:24:15,216 --> 01:24:16,117 ♪ All blood and all guts 1446 01:24:16,151 --> 01:24:17,218 It's getting cold now. 1447 01:24:17,252 --> 01:24:19,454 ♪ All blood and all guts I don't give a fuck ♪ 1448 01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:23,691 ♪ Really came from nothing 1449 01:24:23,725 --> 01:24:26,194 ♪ And turn a thing Into something ♪ 1450 01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:30,331 ♪ Said you got to keep moving 1451 01:24:30,365 --> 01:24:31,332 ♪ All right 1452 01:24:31,366 --> 01:24:33,101 [man screaming] 1453 01:24:35,203 --> 01:24:36,604 Finish up! 1454 01:24:50,585 --> 01:24:52,353 Yeah, turn the air back on. 1455 01:24:57,392 --> 01:24:59,260 ♪ No matter what Keep pushing ♪124457

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