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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,548 --> 00:00:07,767 [ambient music playing] 2 00:00:19,866 --> 00:00:22,086 [man] I've spent nearly 40 years 3 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:25,916 attempting to bring Jim Morrison, the human being, to light. 4 00:00:26,090 --> 00:00:29,963 I worked for a decade creating this independent docuseries 5 00:00:30,138 --> 00:00:33,750 while interviewing hundreds of people who are connected to Jim. 6 00:00:33,924 --> 00:00:37,580 And I did so because I believe Morrison was far more 7 00:00:37,754 --> 00:00:42,367 than the one-dimensional narcissist whose historic legacy has largely been reduced 8 00:00:42,541 --> 00:00:45,066 to Hollywood marketing and advertising. 9 00:00:46,632 --> 00:00:48,156 [woman] He was so complex. 10 00:00:48,330 --> 00:00:50,506 He wasn't just the Lizard King. 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,337 He wasn't just the guy in the-- In the leather pants and no shirt 12 00:00:55,511 --> 00:00:57,861 stumbling down Sunset Boulevard. 13 00:00:58,035 --> 00:01:03,258 [man] Since 1985, I've asked myself why next to no one has stepped up 14 00:01:03,432 --> 00:01:08,872 to question the official story, that is, the controlled narrative. 15 00:01:10,221 --> 00:01:15,792 Hey, Jeff, so I did the research you asked me to do regarding Jim's social security number, 16 00:01:15,966 --> 00:01:19,317 and I think you're gonna be surprised by what I found. 17 00:01:19,491 --> 00:01:22,103 [Jeff] What is it? 18 00:01:22,277 --> 00:01:24,540 [Bombaugh] Well, Jim Morrison's social security number, apparently, is still active. 19 00:01:24,714 --> 00:01:27,151 [Jeff] Okay. 20 00:01:27,325 --> 00:01:31,547 [Bombaugh] Jim's social has been current as of 2014 in Rochester, New York, 21 00:01:31,721 --> 00:01:33,940 less than an hour from where you are now. 22 00:01:34,115 --> 00:01:36,595 [Jeff] Holy shit. 23 00:01:36,769 --> 00:01:39,381 [Bombaugh] I don't know how to explain it. You could really be on to something. 24 00:02:07,844 --> 00:02:11,543 [Jeff] I was born in February 1967 in Chicago, 25 00:02:11,717 --> 00:02:15,156 just weeks after The Doors' debut album was released. 26 00:02:17,027 --> 00:02:19,334 Some of the earliest music I remember 27 00:02:19,508 --> 00:02:22,728 is from when I was 4 or 5 years old. 28 00:02:22,902 --> 00:02:28,560 Now legendary Doors songs like "Light My Fire," "People Are Strange," 29 00:02:29,474 --> 00:02:33,478 "L.A. Woman," and "Riders on the Storm." 30 00:02:33,652 --> 00:02:38,875 As a little kid, I referred to these eerie classics as Halloween music. 31 00:02:40,398 --> 00:02:42,661 Like the eight phases of the moon, 32 00:02:42,835 --> 00:02:45,142 that was phase one of my indoctrination 33 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:48,189 into Jim Morrison's endless night. 34 00:02:49,799 --> 00:02:52,410 Ten years later, 35 00:02:52,584 --> 00:02:56,327 as I carpooled home to Downers Grove, Illinois, from a swim meet in Wisconsin, 36 00:02:56,501 --> 00:03:00,549 I heard a song that cracked open my teenage brain. 37 00:03:00,723 --> 00:03:03,465 "Break on Through [To the Other Side]." 38 00:03:04,030 --> 00:03:06,337 I was hooked, 39 00:03:06,511 --> 00:03:09,601 and I've been searching for the mysterious and misunderstood Morrison 40 00:03:09,775 --> 00:03:10,950 ever since. 41 00:03:13,736 --> 00:03:16,260 With this docu-mystery, 42 00:03:16,434 --> 00:03:22,092 I've reverse-engineered a half-century of factoids, PR spin, and suppression, 43 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:25,226 which have built up around Jim like a shroud. 44 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:31,275 Jim has long been like a face on the Mt. Rushmore of rock. 45 00:03:31,449 --> 00:03:33,712 But who was the actual person? 46 00:03:33,886 --> 00:03:36,976 Who was the flesh-and-blood human being? 47 00:03:38,064 --> 00:03:42,634 And who, or what exactly, drove him to such extremes 48 00:03:42,808 --> 00:03:47,204 during the already chaotic era of the late 1960s? 49 00:03:47,378 --> 00:03:53,297 It's time the world finally knew the real truth about the real Jim Morrison. 50 00:03:58,302 --> 00:04:01,262 [Jeff] Now, were you, like, a competitive swimmer? 51 00:04:01,436 --> 00:04:02,524 A what? 52 00:04:02,698 --> 00:04:04,743 Did you ever swim on the swim team? 53 00:04:04,917 --> 00:04:07,790 No. Well, there was a time I... Wait. 54 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:13,709 No, I was never a competitive swimmer. No. 55 00:04:13,883 --> 00:04:16,146 [Jeff] Check that out again. 56 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,456 Frank X seems to recall a distant memory of having been on a swim team, 57 00:04:21,630 --> 00:04:25,721 but then catches himself and freezes like a deer in headlights. 58 00:04:25,895 --> 00:04:26,983 A what? 59 00:04:27,157 --> 00:04:29,202 Did you ever swim on the swim team? 60 00:04:29,377 --> 00:04:32,031 No. Well, there was a time I... Wait. 61 00:04:32,205 --> 00:04:33,903 Well, there was a time I... Wait. 62 00:04:36,949 --> 00:04:40,431 No, I was never a competitive swimmer. No. 63 00:04:41,389 --> 00:04:43,434 [Jeff] The reason I asked Frank about swimming 64 00:04:43,608 --> 00:04:46,655 was because Jim had been a competitive swimmer 65 00:04:46,829 --> 00:04:50,746 during his freshman year at Alameda High School in California. 66 00:04:52,443 --> 00:04:54,924 [suspenseful music playing] 67 00:05:04,803 --> 00:05:06,849 [ominous music playing] 68 00:05:40,578 --> 00:05:45,104 Alameda is when I really started to understand I had an older brother. 69 00:05:45,278 --> 00:05:48,456 And I don't know, you've been-- Seen the house in Alexandria, 70 00:05:48,630 --> 00:05:50,545 the house in Alameda was real nice. 71 00:05:50,719 --> 00:05:55,593 But it was like an old Victorian three-story house, 72 00:05:55,767 --> 00:05:58,727 and some other people rented out the bottom floor, 73 00:05:58,901 --> 00:06:00,990 and there was a stairway up to the second floor. 74 00:06:01,164 --> 00:06:06,517 Well, Jim had his own apartment as he had in the basement in Alexandria. 75 00:06:06,691 --> 00:06:09,955 He had the top floor that had its own little kitchen, 76 00:06:10,129 --> 00:06:13,611 and it was like a turret, the old style. 77 00:06:13,785 --> 00:06:15,657 It was an interesting one. 78 00:06:15,831 --> 00:06:18,616 So he's 15 years old, and he's going through a coast-to-coast 79 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:21,967 major geographic and cultural change 80 00:06:22,141 --> 00:06:26,015 and I could imagine how in the late '50s, 81 00:06:26,189 --> 00:06:28,321 it was at least as great a shock 82 00:06:29,322 --> 00:06:35,198 just because the culture and the weather and the style are all so different. 83 00:06:35,372 --> 00:06:39,420 I think that was a big, big shock for Jim. 84 00:06:39,594 --> 00:06:44,642 It was always a culture shock every time we moved, you know, for all of us, 85 00:06:44,816 --> 00:06:48,559 all the military or, you know, especially the Navy guys, 86 00:06:48,733 --> 00:06:51,301 because the dads went away every now and then. 87 00:06:51,475 --> 00:06:55,348 So we had a different type of culture shock almost every time we moved. 88 00:06:55,523 --> 00:06:58,743 But we were in classes together, so, I mean, he had somebody he knew. 89 00:06:58,917 --> 00:07:01,267 A lot of the time Dad would be gone. In those days, 90 00:07:01,442 --> 00:07:05,315 some of the tours of duty would be nine months out in the WESTPAC. 91 00:07:05,489 --> 00:07:09,232 But as far as I could see, they got along fine, 92 00:07:09,406 --> 00:07:12,931 and when Dad came home, everything was good. 93 00:07:13,105 --> 00:07:15,760 It was almost like Jim had been taking care of things at home, 94 00:07:15,934 --> 00:07:18,981 and there was, I think, a mutual respect. 95 00:07:19,155 --> 00:07:23,899 I know that he was gone a lot, just that he was deployed on a ship, 96 00:07:24,073 --> 00:07:27,685 and so, like a lot of military families, you know, 97 00:07:27,859 --> 00:07:32,734 the mom probably ends up having to kind of run the show and be the disciplinarian. 98 00:07:33,865 --> 00:07:36,651 I would imagine that that was kind of the way things work there. 99 00:07:36,825 --> 00:07:41,177 I think it certainly doesn't help anybody when you're moving all the time. 100 00:07:41,351 --> 00:07:43,353 And it seems like Jim's family 101 00:07:43,527 --> 00:07:47,009 moved more frequently than average for military families. 102 00:07:47,183 --> 00:07:49,925 And when your father is literally disappearing in space 103 00:07:50,099 --> 00:07:53,319 as well as time, being away, 104 00:07:54,451 --> 00:07:57,715 that can't help but affect somebody, you know? 105 00:07:57,889 --> 00:07:59,500 How did this all... 106 00:08:00,979 --> 00:08:04,548 conspire to produce the effects in Jim? 107 00:08:04,722 --> 00:08:07,943 I can't tell you that, but I'm sure it played a role. 108 00:08:09,684 --> 00:08:12,208 [Jeff] George Stephen Morrison 109 00:08:12,382 --> 00:08:16,386 was an aviator who rose to the rank of rear admiral in the United States Navy. 110 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,216 He served during World War II and the Korean War, 111 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:22,566 and in August 1964, 112 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:26,222 he played a major role in the escalation of the Vietnam War 113 00:08:26,396 --> 00:08:29,312 after he commanded the naval carrier division 114 00:08:29,486 --> 00:08:32,184 during the Gulf of Tonkin incident. 115 00:08:33,142 --> 00:08:36,319 Known as Steve to family and friends, 116 00:08:36,493 --> 00:08:41,629 he believed Jim, his first born son, would follow in his military footsteps, 117 00:08:41,803 --> 00:08:44,283 but he couldn't have been more wrong. 118 00:08:56,034 --> 00:09:01,039 [Jeff] How would you describe Alameda in general, in brief, at the time you knew Jim, 119 00:09:01,213 --> 00:09:03,476 - 1957 to '58? - [chuckles] 120 00:09:04,782 --> 00:09:10,832 If I had to describe Alameda, it would have been Mayberry and American Graffiti mixed. 121 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:18,491 I met Jim in... It would have been 1957 at the high school. 122 00:09:19,057 --> 00:09:21,712 And some reason, I remember him when he first got there. 123 00:09:21,886 --> 00:09:24,628 You know, I'm not quite sure why, you know. 124 00:09:24,802 --> 00:09:30,939 I just remember him being a really sweet looking guy, and had a plaid shirt on, 125 00:09:31,113 --> 00:09:34,072 and we all started talking about, "Who's that?" You know, "Who is that guy?" 126 00:09:34,638 --> 00:09:36,553 Became friends with some people right away, 127 00:09:36,727 --> 00:09:42,385 but not outgoing in the traditional sense, you know? 128 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,953 Kind of shy. 129 00:09:45,127 --> 00:09:50,175 The Jim that I knew was pretty serious, and quiet, and sensitive, and very kind. 130 00:09:50,349 --> 00:09:53,048 I kind of put him as kind of a loner 131 00:09:53,222 --> 00:09:57,052 because he was always with Fud, or Gerard Ford, most of the time. 132 00:09:57,226 --> 00:10:01,447 Well, I met him when I was a freshman in high school, at Alameda High School, 133 00:10:01,622 --> 00:10:04,973 through our youth group at Christ Episcopal Church. 134 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:06,975 We had quite an active youth group. 135 00:10:07,149 --> 00:10:10,500 There were about 20 or 30 members, and Jim was one of them. 136 00:10:10,674 --> 00:10:12,415 And we used to... 137 00:10:12,589 --> 00:10:16,419 We all became very good friends in that particular group, 138 00:10:16,593 --> 00:10:22,599 and so we would go on different retreats and things like this, where we all... 139 00:10:23,426 --> 00:10:28,692 There was a lot of meditation, a lot of religious things going on with that, 140 00:10:28,866 --> 00:10:31,042 and he was very involved in that. 141 00:10:32,217 --> 00:10:38,180 [Jeff] No one seemed to be aware that Jim had musical leanings, even those close to him. 142 00:10:38,354 --> 00:10:41,444 There was never anything that I can recall 143 00:10:41,618 --> 00:10:44,882 that would've led you to believe that he was gonna be a musician. 144 00:10:45,056 --> 00:10:47,058 He had pretty good rhythm, and as I remember, 145 00:10:47,232 --> 00:10:50,409 there's a couple of music pieces that he really loved. 146 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:53,021 "Topsy I," "Topsy II." 147 00:10:53,195 --> 00:10:57,286 It's a drum-- Drummers. It was all drums. He loved that. 148 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:13,345 [Jeff] Amazingly, Bonnie relates the earliest firsthand account 149 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:15,870 of Jim playing music with a group 150 00:11:16,044 --> 00:11:19,221 nearly a decade before his work with The Doors. 151 00:11:19,395 --> 00:11:22,964 [Boller] And I remember going over to Jim Morrison's house, 152 00:11:24,008 --> 00:11:27,272 and they were just playing, you know? 153 00:11:27,446 --> 00:11:29,492 Just seeing how they played together. 154 00:11:29,666 --> 00:11:32,800 - [Jeff] You're kidding me. - They each played different things. 155 00:11:32,974 --> 00:11:36,891 I think Jim Tolman played the bass for as far as I remember. 156 00:11:37,065 --> 00:11:39,458 I don't know what Jim Morrison played. 157 00:11:40,633 --> 00:11:44,202 I know that Fud played a guitar because he later had a guitar shop. 158 00:11:44,855 --> 00:11:47,205 So Fud would've been the guitarist. 159 00:11:47,379 --> 00:11:49,904 And I guess Jim might have been singing, I would think. 160 00:11:50,078 --> 00:11:52,994 Maybe all three of them were singing, as far as I remember. 161 00:11:53,168 --> 00:11:55,779 And I just sat there and watched, you know? 162 00:11:55,953 --> 00:12:00,218 I felt very honored that these guys would include me. 163 00:12:00,392 --> 00:12:03,004 You know, I was just a friend, and I was a girl, you know, 164 00:12:03,178 --> 00:12:06,181 to listen to them while they did this stuff 165 00:12:06,355 --> 00:12:09,575 Because it was all kind of improv. It wasn't planned. It wasn't... 166 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:12,187 I don't remember sheet music or anything like that. 167 00:12:12,361 --> 00:12:14,363 But I remember that they were... 168 00:12:14,537 --> 00:12:16,974 [Jeff] You're blowing my mind in the best way, and it's incredible, 169 00:12:17,148 --> 00:12:19,368 because we've been trying to pinpoint... 170 00:12:20,369 --> 00:12:23,198 - When he started. - ...when he started or had any musical leanings. 171 00:12:23,372 --> 00:12:25,200 - Because... - Oh, yeah, that was definitely then. 172 00:12:25,374 --> 00:12:27,332 He liked to claim that he hated rock and roll at that time. 173 00:12:27,506 --> 00:12:29,857 Even after he left here and went to Virginia, 174 00:12:30,031 --> 00:12:32,598 he would put down rock and roll except for Elvis. 175 00:12:32,773 --> 00:12:37,386 And we don't really have any record of him actually holding an instrument 176 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:40,955 or a microphone or anything until UCLA, 177 00:12:41,129 --> 00:12:43,305 which was years and years later, you know. 178 00:12:43,479 --> 00:12:45,524 So we're trying to backtrack in time, 179 00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:48,440 - and you just blew my mind. - Yeah, that's definitely-- They were. 180 00:12:48,614 --> 00:12:52,140 I mean, that's-- My biggest memory of him is that day. 181 00:12:54,795 --> 00:13:00,713 [Jeff] Did Jim play everyone, and know all along that music would be his chosen profession? 182 00:13:00,888 --> 00:13:04,892 Later, I learned more that supports this theory. 183 00:13:05,066 --> 00:13:09,940 Then Jeff showed me a fascinating handwritten letter Jim had sent him. 184 00:13:10,114 --> 00:13:13,988 So this is after Alameda High School, and while Jim was in Alexandria? 185 00:13:14,162 --> 00:13:15,772 That's correct. 186 00:13:18,819 --> 00:13:22,170 I've only shown about three people this in the last 50 years, so... 187 00:13:23,475 --> 00:13:25,826 That's amazing. Absolutely amazing. 188 00:13:28,916 --> 00:13:33,268 Quite frankly, I kept it all pretty private. 189 00:13:35,096 --> 00:13:40,144 I didn't really particularly like the way that others had depicted him afterwards, and... 190 00:13:43,017 --> 00:13:45,584 I'm somewhat very happy that you're doing this 191 00:13:45,758 --> 00:13:48,849 so you can show him maybe a little bit more the way he was. 192 00:13:49,023 --> 00:13:50,807 He was a pretty darn good guy. 193 00:13:51,677 --> 00:13:53,636 Pretty normal, good guy. 194 00:13:53,810 --> 00:13:55,638 Well, not totally normal, but who was? 195 00:13:55,812 --> 00:13:56,900 [both chuckle] 196 00:13:58,946 --> 00:14:01,905 [Jeff] While in Alameda, I met with Joy Allyn 197 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:06,475 to learn if an infamous passage fromNo One Here Gets Out Alive was true. 198 00:14:07,432 --> 00:14:11,959 The story goes that Jim and high school friend Fud Ford 199 00:14:12,133 --> 00:14:16,398 spied on Joy and her mother as they changed into their swimsuits. 200 00:14:17,355 --> 00:14:22,230 Well, it was really funny because nobody wanted to tell me that I was in this book. 201 00:14:22,404 --> 00:14:24,797 And it was like, "Have you told Joy yet?" 202 00:14:24,972 --> 00:14:26,147 Told me what? 203 00:14:26,321 --> 00:14:28,192 "Have you read Jim's book?" Jim who? 204 00:14:28,366 --> 00:14:30,107 And I had no idea. 205 00:14:30,281 --> 00:14:33,197 And finally, I had to actually pull it out of somebody. 206 00:14:33,371 --> 00:14:36,853 They said, "you're in Jim Morrison's book." 207 00:14:37,027 --> 00:14:42,076 And I didn't know he went to Alameda High School. I didn't know anything about it. 208 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:43,642 So, of course, I had to go buy the book 209 00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:45,514 because nobody would tell me what it said. 210 00:14:45,688 --> 00:14:48,430 Then my mother was mad. She said, "That's ridiculous. 211 00:14:48,604 --> 00:14:51,085 "He couldn't see that. No way he could do that." 212 00:14:52,564 --> 00:14:55,524 Of course, this story wasn't here. We were downstairs. 213 00:14:55,698 --> 00:14:58,309 and the bedrooms are more towards the front of the house. 214 00:14:58,483 --> 00:15:05,012 So if you stand on the bridge, there really is no way you can see anybody change. 215 00:15:05,186 --> 00:15:06,578 But it was a cool story. 216 00:15:06,752 --> 00:15:08,841 It gave me a little notoriety. 217 00:15:09,016 --> 00:15:12,062 Even though I didn't know Jim, I said, "Wow, I was in his book." 218 00:15:13,150 --> 00:15:15,500 [Jeff] Someone obviously must've-- It must've been Fud... 219 00:15:15,674 --> 00:15:18,286 - It had to have been Fud. - ...told the author the story. 220 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:20,810 - Who else would've known that? Because Morrison was gone. - Yeah. Yeah. 221 00:15:20,984 --> 00:15:24,727 [woman] He had a prankster side, as you've been told by others. 222 00:15:27,034 --> 00:15:30,341 One of the times we visited them in Alexandria, 223 00:15:30,515 --> 00:15:33,605 he was a little older then, maybe 14 or 15. 224 00:15:33,779 --> 00:15:37,696 He was dressed up in nice clothes. 225 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:41,352 You know, the family wanted us to do that for pictures and so on. 226 00:15:41,526 --> 00:15:45,530 But in contrast to that demeanor, he had the family cat. 227 00:15:45,704 --> 00:15:47,141 He was pretending to strangle it. 228 00:15:47,315 --> 00:15:49,360 And at one point, he draped it around his neck, 229 00:15:49,534 --> 00:15:54,583 and in the picture that my dad or his dad took of him and his siblings, 230 00:15:54,757 --> 00:15:57,673 there he is with the cat draped around his neck. 231 00:15:58,152 --> 00:16:01,155 Always finding some funny angle. 232 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:11,252 [Andy] They all got into Mad Magazine, 233 00:16:12,818 --> 00:16:16,779 which was a little bit different than your regular comics 234 00:16:16,953 --> 00:16:18,868 because it had a lot of social comments, 235 00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:23,568 but from a very, I guess, liberal angle. 236 00:16:24,569 --> 00:16:26,354 Anti-establishment, maybe. 237 00:16:27,137 --> 00:16:31,185 They were all into, you know, cartoony-type drawings and stuff like that, 238 00:16:31,359 --> 00:16:33,752 but I think it was more about his personality. 239 00:16:33,926 --> 00:16:43,153 And this was one of two pictures that appeared one morning with Jim, and Jim gave me this. 240 00:16:43,762 --> 00:16:49,942 [Jeff] Thanks to the late Fud Ford, Jim's disturbing Alameda-era drawings survive. 241 00:16:50,117 --> 00:16:54,077 During my first interview with Jim's friend Mirandi Babitz, 242 00:16:54,251 --> 00:17:00,083 I showed her a number of the explicit pencil drawings Jim created circa age 14 243 00:17:00,257 --> 00:17:01,693 in his Alameda bedroom. 244 00:17:03,652 --> 00:17:06,568 Mirandi, a cognitive behavioral therapist, 245 00:17:06,742 --> 00:17:10,659 asked if she could show one particular drawing to her colleague. 246 00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:16,056 The colleague, who had no clue they'd analyzed a late 1950s drawing 247 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:18,580 by the adolescent Jim Morrison, 248 00:17:18,754 --> 00:17:21,974 recommended Mirandi immediately contact Child Protective Services 249 00:17:22,149 --> 00:17:25,065 regarding a possible case of sexual abuse. 250 00:17:29,852 --> 00:17:33,029 That there is a kind of a tendency to become a hypersexual 251 00:17:33,203 --> 00:17:35,771 is one of the ways people respond to that, 252 00:17:35,945 --> 00:17:39,470 or to become sexually anorexic, like, no sex at all. 253 00:17:39,644 --> 00:17:42,995 Sometimes if it's a family member, 254 00:17:44,084 --> 00:17:49,480 and then the person tries to speak about it, and isn't believed, you know, 255 00:17:49,654 --> 00:17:52,266 then that kind of compounds the issue. 256 00:17:54,703 --> 00:17:59,969 [Jeff] Have these crude drawings revealed onion layers with the passage of time? 257 00:18:00,143 --> 00:18:02,363 I'll soon learn chilling information 258 00:18:02,537 --> 00:18:05,017 which will lead me to believe that's the case. 259 00:18:11,459 --> 00:18:15,419 From kindergarten to first grade to sixth grade, there was no difference. 260 00:18:16,551 --> 00:18:19,249 He was the class president of the sixth grade, 261 00:18:19,423 --> 00:18:23,819 which meant you were the class president of the whole school, you know? 262 00:18:23,993 --> 00:18:28,302 But something happened in seventh, eighth, ninth, or something, for Jim 263 00:18:28,476 --> 00:18:32,349 that he was very different, as far as I could see, when he came in, 264 00:18:32,523 --> 00:18:35,439 in terms of just his attitude. 265 00:18:36,527 --> 00:18:39,574 [Jeff] Are Jim's Alameda drawings a dark window 266 00:18:39,748 --> 00:18:42,359 into his later Alexandria church visit? 267 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:45,841 At that time, he seemed so disturbed, 268 00:18:46,015 --> 00:18:50,019 Tandy Martin's mother took him to speak with a youth minister. 269 00:18:50,193 --> 00:18:52,369 Jim's lover, Linda Ashcroft, 270 00:18:52,543 --> 00:18:55,981 claimed he told her he'd been sexually abused by his father 271 00:18:56,156 --> 00:18:58,027 starting around age 4 272 00:18:58,201 --> 00:19:01,248 in a bathtub of the Morrison home in Albuquerque. 273 00:19:01,422 --> 00:19:04,338 The family then moved to Los Altos, California. 274 00:19:04,512 --> 00:19:07,428 It's May 29th, 2016. 275 00:19:07,602 --> 00:19:10,735 I'm back in Los Altos, Mountain View. 276 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:17,264 And there's Jim's home that he lived in for two brief years. 277 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,231 I said to him, well, um, 278 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:31,278 it must have been horrible for you. 279 00:19:31,452 --> 00:19:34,498 And he said, "Well, no, I was told that that was the way you expressed love 280 00:19:34,672 --> 00:19:36,239 for somebody who loved you. 281 00:19:37,893 --> 00:19:40,374 You could express love for your father that way." 282 00:19:41,505 --> 00:19:43,333 Oh, he hated his father. 283 00:19:44,204 --> 00:19:46,075 He hated his father in a big way. 284 00:19:46,249 --> 00:19:48,382 That's what I always wondered where it came from in Jim 285 00:19:48,556 --> 00:19:51,776 because it seemed more than just rebellion, more than teenage rebellion. 286 00:19:51,950 --> 00:19:56,346 He had it hardwired into him somehow to be just the opposite of that. 287 00:19:57,347 --> 00:19:59,871 [Jeff] Following a half century of speculation 288 00:20:00,045 --> 00:20:04,049 dating back to Jim's attorney Max Fink in 1969, 289 00:20:04,224 --> 00:20:06,878 three sources have publicly corroborated 290 00:20:07,052 --> 00:20:10,273 Jim's alleged claim of childhood sexual abuse. 291 00:20:10,447 --> 00:20:15,800 Linda Ashcroft in 1997, author Stephen Davis in 2004, 292 00:20:15,974 --> 00:20:20,849 and journalist Salli Stevenson in 2015 for this documentary. 293 00:20:21,023 --> 00:20:24,983 Although Ashcroft's literary agent told me she had died, 294 00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:29,553 I tried through a network of private investigators to prove otherwise. 295 00:20:29,727 --> 00:20:36,430 Their stunning photo evidence helped make that a reality, which led to me phoning her. 296 00:20:38,823 --> 00:20:45,047 All right, it is Wednesday, February 15th, 2017. 297 00:20:46,222 --> 00:20:52,576 I'm about to attempt to phone Linda Ashcroft in Liverpool, England. 298 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:57,886 [line ringing] 299 00:21:00,105 --> 00:21:01,281 [clears throat] 300 00:21:10,899 --> 00:21:12,074 Hi. Ginger? 301 00:21:15,817 --> 00:21:17,209 Hi, is this Linda? 302 00:21:20,038 --> 00:21:22,171 My name is Jeff Finn. Please don't hang up. 303 00:21:22,345 --> 00:21:24,565 I've been trying to find you for years. 304 00:21:24,739 --> 00:21:29,831 I'm a documentary filmmaker in Los Angeles, 305 00:21:30,701 --> 00:21:34,749 and I've been trying to reach you for, well, 20 years now 306 00:21:34,923 --> 00:21:36,925 since your book came out. [laughs] 307 00:21:38,274 --> 00:21:41,190 I hope I'm not calling at an inconvenient time. 308 00:21:41,364 --> 00:21:45,412 I was actually banking on your insomnia that you... [laughs] 309 00:21:50,373 --> 00:21:53,289 Oh, this is not Linda Ashcroft, nicknamed Ginger, 310 00:21:53,463 --> 00:21:55,639 who wrote the book about Jim Morrison? 311 00:22:00,122 --> 00:22:03,038 Okay, if you are-- If there's any chance you are, 312 00:22:03,212 --> 00:22:05,040 could you please call me at your convenience? 313 00:22:05,214 --> 00:22:07,347 I know I'm calling you out of the blue, 314 00:22:07,521 --> 00:22:11,220 - and I don't mean to disturb you or inconvenience you at all-- - No. 315 00:22:25,277 --> 00:22:26,278 [laughs softly] 316 00:22:28,629 --> 00:22:30,457 See how well that went. 317 00:22:31,632 --> 00:22:33,155 I tried the Ginger tactic. 318 00:22:33,329 --> 00:22:35,070 Thought I had her there for a second. 319 00:22:35,244 --> 00:22:37,594 [clears throat] That was her nickname. 320 00:22:39,944 --> 00:22:41,337 Oh, shit. 321 00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:59,007 [announcer] This is the final of this event. 322 00:22:59,181 --> 00:23:02,140 Let's go. Lane 1. Mason Roberts... 323 00:23:03,054 --> 00:23:06,449 He wasn't your standard kind of guy 324 00:23:06,623 --> 00:23:09,670 trying to impress anybody or fit in. 325 00:23:09,844 --> 00:23:11,802 He was who he was. 326 00:23:12,412 --> 00:23:14,326 He enjoyed shocking people. 327 00:23:14,979 --> 00:23:18,330 The one thing that I remembered that I was told-- 328 00:23:18,505 --> 00:23:21,421 I never saw it happen because he wouldn't have done it around me, 329 00:23:21,595 --> 00:23:24,859 but I was told that he carried a little thimble in his pocket. 330 00:23:25,425 --> 00:23:28,166 And especially liked to do this around girls, 331 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:32,432 but he would take the-- They would-- He would show it to them, 332 00:23:32,606 --> 00:23:37,175 and he'd take the thimble, and he would spit into it, and then he would drink it. 333 00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:41,005 And, of course, this is as gross as you can get, I guess, 334 00:23:41,179 --> 00:23:43,138 you know, drinking your own spit, 335 00:23:43,312 --> 00:23:47,185 but that was his kind of MO, was to kind of shock. 336 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,145 And I think that was what he enjoyed doing. 337 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:54,671 We started drinking honey before the swim meets. 338 00:23:54,845 --> 00:23:58,501 And if I remember right, I think Jim had a-- 339 00:23:58,675 --> 00:24:01,896 It looked like a little half pint of bourbon or something. 340 00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,680 You know, it had the brown liquid in it, 341 00:24:03,854 --> 00:24:06,596 and we'd sit over in the sidelines on the grassy area 342 00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:08,903 and suck this honey down, 343 00:24:09,077 --> 00:24:11,601 and everybody else would be looking at us like we were crazy. [laughs] 344 00:24:12,341 --> 00:24:13,864 But it was just honey. 345 00:24:14,038 --> 00:24:16,084 I mean, just an energy drink 346 00:24:16,258 --> 00:24:19,783 because we didn't have any 5-Hour Energy drinks back then or anything. 347 00:24:19,957 --> 00:24:22,133 But you know, we just had that before the meet. 348 00:24:22,307 --> 00:24:24,919 We both were doing the same things, believe it or not, 349 00:24:25,093 --> 00:24:28,226 in the seventh and eighth grades, okay? 350 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,708 In other words, we were swimmers. We were always swimmers. 351 00:24:31,882 --> 00:24:34,406 We were good swimmers. 352 00:24:34,581 --> 00:24:37,975 If you can get that film going, you'll see us swimming, and, like, he's splashing me. 353 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:42,458 [laughs] And I don't like that when I'm 6 years old or anything. 354 00:24:42,632 --> 00:24:46,984 But I wasn't a good swimmer, but neither was he, but we became good swimmers. 355 00:24:47,158 --> 00:24:51,554 And by the sixth grade, yeah, that's when we have the pictures of us swimming in the ocean. 356 00:24:51,728 --> 00:24:53,774 We were really swimming. 357 00:24:53,948 --> 00:24:56,733 I mean, all of us were swimmers, both families. That was a big deal. 358 00:25:03,566 --> 00:25:06,569 No. There was a time when I... Wait. 359 00:25:06,743 --> 00:25:08,484 There was a time when I... Wait. 360 00:25:11,487 --> 00:25:15,230 No, I was never a competitive swimmer. No. 361 00:25:15,404 --> 00:25:17,711 [Jeff] As we continued to small talk, 362 00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:23,455 Frank voluntarily began riffing about the Sunset Strip in the late 1960s. 363 00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:26,763 Where do you wanna go? I don't know. I want Sunset Strip. 364 00:25:28,069 --> 00:25:30,593 Yeah. I don't know if he mentioned that or what. 365 00:25:30,767 --> 00:25:34,989 We'd go to the Sunset Strip, and there was all these people walking around there. 366 00:25:35,163 --> 00:25:37,905 [Jeff] This was the exact time and place 367 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,298 The Doors stepped into the spotlight. 368 00:25:41,735 --> 00:25:44,476 Notice how quickly Frank goes off topic 369 00:25:44,651 --> 00:25:49,264 the moment I ask about the Sunset Strip at the time in question. 370 00:25:50,439 --> 00:25:52,310 That was the motel we stayed in. 371 00:25:52,484 --> 00:25:55,444 [Jeff] Oh, so you were on the Sunset Strip in the '60s? 372 00:25:55,618 --> 00:25:58,534 - Yeah. - That's fantastic. Did you see any bands or anything? 373 00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:00,275 No, we didn't stay there long. 374 00:26:02,451 --> 00:26:05,976 [Jeff] Interesting, but perhaps a mere coincidence? 375 00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:09,589 Then, however, Frank launches into intimate details 376 00:26:09,763 --> 00:26:13,244 about Rolling Stones guitarist Brian Jones. 377 00:26:13,418 --> 00:26:18,685 Information related as if we were sitting in a room with the Stones themselves. 378 00:26:18,859 --> 00:26:22,819 Not inside info of the type found by a super fan, 379 00:26:22,993 --> 00:26:26,170 but more like the details a peer would know. 380 00:26:26,344 --> 00:26:30,653 One whose heart felt sorrow over the loss of someone great. 381 00:26:33,090 --> 00:26:35,702 Jim apparently felt so aligned with Brian, 382 00:26:35,876 --> 00:26:41,446 he dedicated an epic poem to Jones after his 1969 death at 27, 383 00:26:41,621 --> 00:26:45,625 which, like Jim's alleged death, also fell on July 3rd. 384 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,148 I like Brian Jones. 385 00:26:47,322 --> 00:26:49,585 I think Brian Jones... 386 00:26:50,499 --> 00:26:54,764 Well, of course, he got into alcohol quite heavily, 387 00:26:54,938 --> 00:26:58,115 and he wasn't showing up for practice. 388 00:26:58,594 --> 00:27:00,640 And so they had to drop him. 389 00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:07,081 And-- But I did follow him after that, when he went to Morocco, 390 00:27:07,255 --> 00:27:08,822 listened to the recordings. 391 00:27:08,996 --> 00:27:13,957 I thought they were interesting, the native recordings. 392 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:17,613 And I don't know, I always liked the guy, you know. 393 00:27:17,787 --> 00:27:22,052 I, of course, have heard negative things about him from the other members. 394 00:27:22,226 --> 00:27:25,795 [Jeff] Did Frank just imply he listened to Rolling Stones demos 395 00:27:25,969 --> 00:27:28,276 directly from Brian Jones? 396 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:30,408 And that the Stones later shared with him 397 00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:33,237 their specific thoughts on Jones? 398 00:27:33,411 --> 00:27:37,111 How would a supposed maintenance man from somewhere in New York 399 00:27:37,285 --> 00:27:40,549 have access to such insider knowledge? 400 00:28:06,444 --> 00:28:09,491 [Jeff] Now, you and Jim were both in film, is that right? 401 00:28:09,665 --> 00:28:11,493 [man] Yes. Oh, yes. 402 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:13,582 Yeah, we were both in the film department. Absolutely. 403 00:28:13,756 --> 00:28:17,542 And remember, UCLA is a fairly arty place. 404 00:28:17,717 --> 00:28:21,982 It was not a commercial type of film school. 405 00:28:22,156 --> 00:28:24,724 So you had Hollywood professionals, old pros, 406 00:28:24,898 --> 00:28:28,249 and then you had these sort of more avant-garde or more, you know, um, 407 00:28:28,945 --> 00:28:32,340 bohemian characters that would come in. 408 00:28:32,514 --> 00:28:33,428 So you had both. 409 00:28:33,602 --> 00:28:35,256 Ah, Morrison. 410 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:39,826 Let's see, I think we met in the 170 workshop, you know 411 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,785 when we worked on our first student film project. 412 00:28:42,959 --> 00:28:45,832 I did get to know him a bit when we were all... 413 00:28:46,006 --> 00:28:48,095 He and I would sit around in the library 414 00:28:48,269 --> 00:28:53,753 and talk about the works of poetry and Rimbaud, of course. 415 00:28:53,927 --> 00:28:57,713 [Jeff] The name Arthur Rimbaud is impossible to avoid 416 00:28:57,887 --> 00:29:01,325 when tracing the trajectory of Jim Morrison. 417 00:29:01,499 --> 00:29:06,026 By age 20, the French author had rejected his career as a poet 418 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,074 and willfully undertook a new life exploring East Africa. 419 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:16,166 There's a whole period of literature, particularly English literature, 420 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:18,212 with, like, The Razor's Edge. 421 00:29:18,386 --> 00:29:21,868 You have people going off to China. 422 00:29:22,042 --> 00:29:25,349 Richard Burton, Sir Richard Burton, the traveler, 423 00:29:25,523 --> 00:29:28,744 going off to the Mid-East and what have you. 424 00:29:28,918 --> 00:29:32,400 And people going to another land or another place 425 00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:35,055 to completely forget who they were 426 00:29:35,229 --> 00:29:37,013 so that they could be someone else. 427 00:29:37,187 --> 00:29:40,060 Jim said, "Oh, yeah, Hesse." Get the Journey to the East. 428 00:29:40,234 --> 00:29:41,975 He said, "That's the one." 429 00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:45,892 And in it, the guide, 430 00:29:46,066 --> 00:29:51,419 the one who they hired to take them across the mountains or whatever, 431 00:29:51,593 --> 00:29:52,899 disappears. 432 00:29:54,335 --> 00:29:56,337 Turned out he was the leader all the time, 433 00:29:56,511 --> 00:29:59,253 and he abandoned them at the time that needed to be... 434 00:29:59,427 --> 00:30:03,126 When that time came, he needed to do that. 435 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,433 That doesn't quite explain the book, 436 00:30:05,607 --> 00:30:12,005 but it's interesting that way, that the disappearance of the guide... 437 00:30:12,179 --> 00:30:14,311 Well, I think when I knew him 438 00:30:14,485 --> 00:30:18,576 he and Phil were reading, really, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, 439 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,753 The Interpretation of Dreams by Freud, 440 00:30:21,928 --> 00:30:23,581 books on Jung. 441 00:30:24,626 --> 00:30:27,194 And, of course, some poetry. 442 00:30:27,368 --> 00:30:31,154 You know, I know, you know, that they were very aware of Rimbaud. 443 00:30:31,328 --> 00:30:37,117 In fact, that was why my next movie was gonna be a short take on Rimbaud, 444 00:30:37,291 --> 00:30:39,380 and he was gonna play Rimbaud for me. 445 00:30:44,298 --> 00:30:48,824 [Jeff] Like a sociologist, Jim studied people for curiosity's sake 446 00:30:48,998 --> 00:30:51,783 and as a way to gauge their reactions. 447 00:30:52,784 --> 00:30:54,961 He took his keen interest further, 448 00:30:55,135 --> 00:30:58,312 and crafted a persona out of his observations. 449 00:30:58,486 --> 00:31:03,056 The voyeur, who was, in Jim's words, a dark comedian. 450 00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:05,145 - I think Jim-- - Jim watched. 451 00:31:06,363 --> 00:31:08,670 - He was a watcher. - Yes. 452 00:31:08,844 --> 00:31:11,107 And he was an instant-- I mean, he liked to stir the energy up a little bit too. 453 00:31:11,281 --> 00:31:12,979 Yes, yes. 454 00:31:13,153 --> 00:31:17,374 [Ron] We had started shooting and had done a few scenes. 455 00:31:17,548 --> 00:31:22,553 And Morrison basically came up and was tugging at my elbow, 456 00:31:22,727 --> 00:31:25,992 saying, "Oh, man." He says, "I know what you want. I know what you want. 457 00:31:26,166 --> 00:31:27,776 Let me shoot it." 458 00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:30,213 Because another guy was shooting the film at that point. 459 00:31:30,387 --> 00:31:33,434 "I know what you want. Let me shoot the film. I can get it. I'm right there." 460 00:31:33,608 --> 00:31:36,306 So I thought, well, okay, 461 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,180 because I wasn't really happy with what the other guy was doing, 462 00:31:40,354 --> 00:31:43,226 who didn't seem to understand the nature of it. 463 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,143 And Morrison said, "You want it to be a real voyeur kind of thing, don't you?" 464 00:31:47,317 --> 00:31:48,928 And I said, well, yeah. He says, "Yeah." 465 00:31:49,102 --> 00:31:51,843 He says, "I see that. It's like a real voyeur thing." 466 00:31:52,018 --> 00:31:56,457 So I hand him the camera, and Morrison just dived into it. 467 00:31:56,631 --> 00:31:59,590 He was moving around the room with the camera, 468 00:31:59,764 --> 00:32:01,941 and he really did seem to get it. 469 00:32:02,419 --> 00:32:04,769 And I was quite pleased. 470 00:32:05,553 --> 00:32:07,424 And we shot the rest of the day. 471 00:32:07,598 --> 00:32:11,951 And then at the end of the day, he comes up to me and he says, 472 00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:16,129 "Mm. Hey, man, you know, 473 00:32:16,303 --> 00:32:21,134 I think-- I think maybe I had the wrong kind of wrong viewfinder, 474 00:32:21,308 --> 00:32:23,179 you know, for the lens." 475 00:32:25,573 --> 00:32:31,405 Well, he had shot all afternoon looking, seeing one frame, 476 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,234 and the camera was seeing something quite different. 477 00:32:35,452 --> 00:32:36,323 And... 478 00:32:37,411 --> 00:32:38,542 That's a great story. 479 00:32:38,716 --> 00:32:40,849 - Seriously? - Yeah, seriously. 480 00:32:41,023 --> 00:32:45,288 And so then we showed the rushes to the faculty advisor. 481 00:32:45,462 --> 00:32:49,510 He looked at it and he said, "This is the worst pile of shit I have ever seen. 482 00:32:49,684 --> 00:32:52,774 You're not gonna be able to do anything with this." 483 00:32:52,948 --> 00:32:56,169 I went ahead and cut the film and all that. 484 00:32:56,343 --> 00:32:58,519 And then when we had the screenings, 485 00:32:58,693 --> 00:33:00,651 Morrison was among the first. 486 00:33:00,825 --> 00:33:02,827 He immediately, after about two minutes, 487 00:33:03,002 --> 00:33:07,136 sort of shouted out, "Oh, yeah!" [chuckles] 488 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:10,531 And then the audience got into it and got into it, 489 00:33:10,705 --> 00:33:16,058 and it turned out to be one of the big hits of that, you know, bunch of films. 490 00:33:16,232 --> 00:33:17,233 I remember that. 491 00:33:19,322 --> 00:33:23,587 When Dave Thompson went to see The Rolling Stones down at Long Beach, 492 00:33:23,761 --> 00:33:26,025 and he came back, and we were all in someone's apartment, 493 00:33:26,199 --> 00:33:29,115 and he was telling us about how the crowd reacted, 494 00:33:29,289 --> 00:33:33,380 and the huge response of hysteria, 495 00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:37,775 and the cops, and stuff around the stage, and pulling girls off the stage. 496 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:39,255 Anyway, all this stuff. 497 00:33:39,429 --> 00:33:41,779 I remember that Jim Morrison asked, 498 00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:47,263 and in great detail, he wanted to know how Jagger stood, 499 00:33:47,437 --> 00:33:50,136 what he wore, how he presented himself. 500 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:53,748 And I remember that we were saying, "What do you care? 501 00:33:53,922 --> 00:33:57,230 You're a film-- You're gonna make movies, right? I mean, what is this? 502 00:33:57,404 --> 00:34:00,929 Why do you care about that?" To that extent, to that detail. 503 00:34:02,017 --> 00:34:06,065 So obviously he had something in the back of his mind, or like that. 504 00:34:06,239 --> 00:34:09,851 [Jeff] How would you describe Jim Morrison as a filmmaker? 505 00:34:10,025 --> 00:34:15,944 I think he's a great performer, but I don't think he was a very great filmmaker. 506 00:34:16,118 --> 00:34:18,468 And I don't think he really cared about it. 507 00:34:18,642 --> 00:34:20,122 He was like an actor. 508 00:34:20,296 --> 00:34:22,907 He had the same quality that a good actor has. 509 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,307 Yeah, Jim was clever. Jim was out here in L.A. on his own, basically. 510 00:34:31,481 --> 00:34:34,484 He had to make his way, and, you know, he had plans, 511 00:34:34,658 --> 00:34:39,446 but I remember driving down the hill, driving down Roscomare with Jim. 512 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,448 He didn't have a car. It was in my car. 513 00:34:41,622 --> 00:34:43,928 We got out of the car, we were walking over to school, 514 00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:47,149 and I asked him what he was gonna do when he graduated. 515 00:34:47,323 --> 00:34:49,195 And he said he wanted to be a director. 516 00:34:50,152 --> 00:34:52,198 Said that he's never gonna be able to do it 517 00:34:52,372 --> 00:34:54,330 because there's so much nepotism in that business. 518 00:34:54,504 --> 00:34:55,984 I said, yeah, whatever. 519 00:34:56,158 --> 00:34:58,726 And he goes-- I go, "What do you want to do?" 520 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:01,816 He goes, "I think I might start a music group with some of the guys from the film school." 521 00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:04,166 And I started laughing. 522 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,038 I said, "What?" I go, "What are you gonna do?" 523 00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:09,519 He goes, "I'm gonna be the singer." And I cracked up. 524 00:35:09,693 --> 00:35:11,478 Because I never heard him sing a note. 525 00:35:11,652 --> 00:35:13,784 I mean, I'm living in the same house with him. 526 00:35:13,958 --> 00:35:15,960 I never heard him sing. 527 00:35:16,135 --> 00:35:18,963 So I didn't know where this was coming from, you know what I mean? 528 00:35:19,442 --> 00:35:22,967 But if you ask me if Jim could plan things out, 529 00:35:23,968 --> 00:35:29,104 yeah, I think he probably schemed out the whole deal, maybe, you know, to do this. 530 00:35:33,891 --> 00:35:35,415 [Jeff] Oh, how fitting, a lizard. 531 00:35:40,507 --> 00:35:42,509 [indistinct chatter] 532 00:35:47,862 --> 00:35:50,691 This is too easy for the Lizard King joke. 533 00:35:50,865 --> 00:35:51,953 Hey, little guy. 534 00:35:54,564 --> 00:35:56,523 [Cohen] Yeah, there goes Morrison up the steps. 535 00:35:56,697 --> 00:35:57,785 [chuckling] 536 00:35:57,959 --> 00:35:59,917 The Lizard King. 537 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:02,790 [woman] You know, he used to call me Lizard. You remember that? 538 00:36:06,141 --> 00:36:10,841 [Jeff] Can you repeat that for the record? That's incredible. 539 00:36:11,015 --> 00:36:14,193 - He used to call me Lizard. - [Cohen] He did. 540 00:36:16,412 --> 00:36:19,023 - You remember that, Ron? - I do remember that, yeah. 541 00:36:19,198 --> 00:36:22,244 We didn't used to call this Bel Air. 542 00:36:22,418 --> 00:36:25,552 [Jeff] I followed Ron Cohen and Elizabeth Buckner 543 00:36:25,726 --> 00:36:30,121 to the likely site of Jim Morrison's first-ever acid trip. 544 00:36:30,905 --> 00:36:35,953 At the time, circa late 1964, along with Ron and Elizabeth, 545 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:40,306 Jim's fellow UCLA classmate and roommate Max Schwartz 546 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,656 was a third witness to the event. 547 00:36:42,830 --> 00:36:45,093 He was right about here when Max was... 548 00:36:46,225 --> 00:36:50,577 When he was pontificating in his, you know, LSD trip. 549 00:36:50,751 --> 00:36:53,710 And Max was over there, and Max was sitting with his arms like that. 550 00:36:53,884 --> 00:36:56,365 You know, when I told you what he said to Jim, you know. 551 00:36:56,539 --> 00:36:58,149 [Buckner] What did he say? 552 00:36:58,324 --> 00:37:00,413 "I bet if I punch you in the face, you'll feel it." 553 00:37:03,894 --> 00:37:05,722 And I was sitting over there. 554 00:37:06,201 --> 00:37:11,728 At the time, I was laughing because it was typical Max, you know? 555 00:37:12,773 --> 00:37:16,211 And Jim was all into, you know... 556 00:37:17,604 --> 00:37:19,475 Out there in the universe, you know? 557 00:37:19,649 --> 00:37:23,958 And then you came in over there, and you came in the pool, 558 00:37:25,307 --> 00:37:27,353 and you gave Max a little bit of a bad time 559 00:37:27,527 --> 00:37:29,398 because Max was giving Jim a bad time. 560 00:37:30,181 --> 00:37:34,621 You know, you got on Max's case. You gave Max some attitude. 561 00:37:34,795 --> 00:37:36,666 I just thought the whole thing was kind of funny, 562 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,018 and I never forgot it because Jim was on acid, you know? 563 00:37:41,192 --> 00:37:43,325 And I thought maybe you had taken it too, but I wasn't sure. 564 00:37:43,499 --> 00:37:46,197 - I don't-- - You don't remember, so probably you didn't. 565 00:37:46,372 --> 00:37:49,157 Well, maybe I did because I did it several times with him. 566 00:37:49,331 --> 00:37:51,028 I don't know if you did or not, 567 00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:54,728 but I remember he for sure was because he was talking about it, 568 00:37:54,902 --> 00:37:58,035 that he had taken it, and he was, you know... 569 00:38:00,037 --> 00:38:05,173 And, you know, for Max, it was like-- It was such a dichotomy, you know? 570 00:38:05,347 --> 00:38:10,265 Jim's all out in space, you know, and Max is, like, Hell's Kitchen, New York, 571 00:38:10,439 --> 00:38:12,746 ready to punch him, you know? 572 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,663 You know? Like, "Oh, you think you're so out there, you know?" 573 00:38:16,837 --> 00:38:18,795 Let me show you how out there you are. 574 00:38:18,969 --> 00:38:20,884 - Let me show you what this feels like. - Pow, right in the kisser. 575 00:38:21,058 --> 00:38:23,060 Yeah, we'll see if that brings you back to reality, you know? 576 00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:25,236 And I remember I was laughing and sitting there laughing, 577 00:38:25,411 --> 00:38:27,891 and that's-- So this was it, up here. 578 00:38:28,065 --> 00:38:31,808 And they had the wall here and stuff like that, but... 579 00:38:31,982 --> 00:38:34,245 - Was this here? - Yeah, the wall was there. 580 00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:36,160 These weren't as high, you know, as they are now. 581 00:38:36,335 --> 00:38:38,554 [Buckner] It's beautiful. 582 00:38:38,728 --> 00:38:41,340 - [Cohen] You know, at the time, Mary was Jim's girlfriend. - [Buckner] Right. 583 00:38:45,344 --> 00:38:48,825 [Buckner] The person who became famous was not the person I knew. 584 00:38:48,999 --> 00:38:51,524 We were very good friends. 585 00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:56,833 He was a very special person in my life for about two years. 586 00:39:00,446 --> 00:39:02,099 So Jim was on the streets, 587 00:39:02,273 --> 00:39:04,580 and that's when he got in with Ray and the rest of the guys 588 00:39:04,754 --> 00:39:06,756 and started doing some music, 589 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:11,370 and wanted my dad to help finance maybe making a demo or whatnot. 590 00:39:11,544 --> 00:39:16,984 Dad wrote back saying he didn't put Jim through four years of college 591 00:39:17,158 --> 00:39:22,468 to take up a music career which he has no background in or history in. 592 00:39:22,642 --> 00:39:24,121 Dad didn't think he had any talent. 593 00:39:24,295 --> 00:39:26,210 And so there was a falling out at that point. 594 00:39:26,385 --> 00:39:30,998 Jim went his way, and there wasn't any more communication. 595 00:39:39,354 --> 00:39:44,446 They got this gig at the Whisky, and it was like they were the Whisky. 596 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:47,318 They ended up being one of the premier bands at the Whisky. 597 00:39:47,493 --> 00:39:50,757 I remember I was with a bunch of people one night, 598 00:39:50,931 --> 00:39:53,673 and they said, "Let's all go down and hear Jim." 599 00:39:53,847 --> 00:39:58,025 [woman] When we found out that they would be opening, we went down there. 600 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,856 And we got a table, and when the set was over, 601 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:06,642 uh, Ray Manzarek came up to me and said, "What do you think?" 602 00:40:06,816 --> 00:40:11,647 And I said, "I can't believe the sound I just heard. It was incredible." 603 00:40:11,821 --> 00:40:14,476 A performance that you wouldn't think would come out of somebody 604 00:40:14,650 --> 00:40:18,524 who was so quiet and pensive. 605 00:40:18,698 --> 00:40:23,442 It was just magic. That was magic, and I'll remember it forever. 606 00:40:23,616 --> 00:40:26,967 [woman 2] They had the best luck I've ever heard of. 607 00:40:27,141 --> 00:40:28,751 They didn't have to tour. 608 00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:30,449 You know, Jim would crash at my place. 609 00:40:30,623 --> 00:40:32,625 They'd live around, crash in the girls' houses, 610 00:40:32,799 --> 00:40:35,105 and go around eating my food, and then, you know, go to work, 611 00:40:35,279 --> 00:40:37,804 go play at, you know, had a job as a house band. 612 00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:40,894 And boom, they got a number one record, and they got a million dollars. 613 00:40:41,068 --> 00:40:44,158 I mean, when does that ever happen? When does that happen? 614 00:40:44,332 --> 00:40:46,682 It never happens. They were so lucky. 615 00:40:46,856 --> 00:40:49,772 Not that they didn't deserve it, not that they didn't have all the talent in the world. 616 00:40:49,946 --> 00:40:53,254 I just mean to say that many bands, even great bands, 617 00:40:53,428 --> 00:40:56,039 the Rolling Stones, and bands, you know, have gone 618 00:40:56,213 --> 00:40:58,433 and worked, and worked all these crazy clubs-- 619 00:40:58,607 --> 00:41:01,828 The Beatles, everybody, have gone through a lot more than The Doors did. 620 00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:05,309 They got to be big stars just instantly almost. 621 00:41:05,484 --> 00:41:08,051 [Blackburn] I remember I was driving down Sunset, 622 00:41:08,225 --> 00:41:13,796 and I looked up, and I saw the billboard for the first album. 623 00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:18,366 And I saw Jim Morrison's face countless feet high. 624 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:21,891 And I went-- I almost, like, cracked the car up. 625 00:41:23,937 --> 00:41:29,508 [woman 3] Jim was just astonished at their success. 626 00:41:29,682 --> 00:41:33,729 It was almost like a surreal experience for him. 627 00:41:34,687 --> 00:41:37,080 My mother was horrified, you know. 628 00:41:37,254 --> 00:41:40,127 Because she didn't want people to know that I was related 629 00:41:40,301 --> 00:41:42,564 to this controversial person, you know? 630 00:41:42,738 --> 00:41:45,567 I mean, she grew up in a different world. 631 00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:50,877 And I think later she came to change her view. I think a lot of the family did. 632 00:41:51,051 --> 00:41:55,185 I looked at the old tapes, or the tapes of the early stuff, you know, 633 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,666 and he's got all this power on stage. 634 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:03,977 He wasn't like any other rock star that I knew because he was so theatrical. 635 00:42:04,151 --> 00:42:07,371 Especially a singer who doesn't even have an instrument as a prop, 636 00:42:07,546 --> 00:42:11,550 who is just standing out there and also performing on the stage 637 00:42:11,724 --> 00:42:14,944 while the band plays these long bridges, 638 00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:17,077 which they invented, thank you very much. 639 00:42:17,251 --> 00:42:21,951 And that's what he was absolutely brilliant at. He knew it. 640 00:42:22,125 --> 00:42:23,779 He knew how to do it. 641 00:42:23,953 --> 00:42:26,260 And another thing that always really impressed me. 642 00:42:26,434 --> 00:42:28,784 When I found out they were The Doors, 643 00:42:28,958 --> 00:42:33,920 I said, oh, that's based on Aldous Huxley's book The Doors of Perception. 644 00:42:34,094 --> 00:42:36,139 He said, "No, Blake." 645 00:42:36,313 --> 00:42:40,666 And I just went, "Wow, he went to the source. He went to the source." 646 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,624 And I was so impressed. 647 00:42:42,798 --> 00:42:46,280 He did take his artistry seriously in the poetry. 648 00:42:46,454 --> 00:42:48,891 I came back to the hotel one afternoon, 649 00:42:49,065 --> 00:42:52,416 and he was so absorbed in working on the poetry 650 00:42:52,591 --> 00:42:56,682 that he wasn't even aware of the fact that I was in the room. 651 00:42:56,856 --> 00:42:59,859 [Schiffman] You know, Jim was a very smart guy, 652 00:43:00,033 --> 00:43:02,905 and he knew that he was putting the world on, 653 00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,299 and he got a kick out of it down deep. 654 00:43:05,473 --> 00:43:08,868 [Jeff] So the Lizard King, the Young Lion, Mr. Mojo Risin', 655 00:43:09,042 --> 00:43:09,956 these were all...? 656 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:13,524 I think most of it was show. 657 00:43:13,699 --> 00:43:17,790 They were playing with incredible intensity, 658 00:43:17,964 --> 00:43:23,230 and there were only three people in the room, plus Pamela. Only three customers. 659 00:43:23,404 --> 00:43:25,885 And she said to him afterwards, 660 00:43:26,059 --> 00:43:28,191 "Why did you play with such intensity 661 00:43:28,365 --> 00:43:30,106 when there were only three people in the room?" 662 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,847 And he said, "Because you never know 663 00:43:32,021 --> 00:43:34,328 when your performance is your last." 664 00:43:40,334 --> 00:43:43,903 [Jeff] If Jim was planning a leap from film to music, 665 00:43:44,077 --> 00:43:48,821 he may have underestimated the impact his landing would have. 666 00:43:48,995 --> 00:43:51,301 Sinister and psychedelic, 667 00:43:51,475 --> 00:43:56,089 The Doors arrived like new creatures from another dimension. 668 00:43:56,263 --> 00:44:04,750 If Elvis Presley was the groin and Bob Dylan was the brain, Jim Morrison was the grain. 669 00:44:04,924 --> 00:44:09,058 But as a sensitive introvert, he couldn't stand the fame, 670 00:44:09,232 --> 00:44:12,192 and consequently began acting out. 671 00:44:19,416 --> 00:44:21,592 [woman] He was a mellow person. 672 00:44:21,767 --> 00:44:26,336 God, he just wanted to write poetry 673 00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:30,471 and drink and have a good time. 674 00:44:30,645 --> 00:44:32,342 But he did do crazy things, 675 00:44:32,516 --> 00:44:35,084 like when we were in the hotel room together 676 00:44:35,258 --> 00:44:38,087 with another couple getting ready to go out for the evening, 677 00:44:38,261 --> 00:44:42,875 and he decides to jump out the window, hang off the sill, 678 00:44:43,049 --> 00:44:47,488 and I'm going, "What the hell are you doing? Get the hell back in this room." 679 00:44:47,662 --> 00:44:50,012 [Norton] He was a little dangerous. 680 00:44:50,186 --> 00:44:51,884 There was a kind of darkness about him, 681 00:44:52,058 --> 00:44:54,495 what he talked about, and what... 682 00:44:54,669 --> 00:44:57,411 The poetry he wrote, and the songs he sang. 683 00:44:57,585 --> 00:45:01,981 One time, when we were sitting at my house in the apartment, 684 00:45:02,155 --> 00:45:07,682 he was sitting on the bed, and he lit a match, and threw it onto the blanket, 685 00:45:07,856 --> 00:45:12,208 and started to burn a hole, which I immediately went over and put it out. 686 00:45:12,382 --> 00:45:14,776 And he did that not really to be mean. 687 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:17,910 He was just kind of teasing, you know? 688 00:45:18,084 --> 00:45:20,564 He wanted to see what my reaction was. 689 00:45:20,739 --> 00:45:23,176 He did hold a knife to me at one point. 690 00:45:23,350 --> 00:45:28,877 And I think it was because I just had gotten angry at him a little bit, 691 00:45:29,051 --> 00:45:35,188 and I probably said something that hurt his feelings, maybe, or something, or something. 692 00:45:35,362 --> 00:45:37,146 I don't even really remember. It was so long ago. 693 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,758 I just remember the thing that he got this knife. 694 00:45:39,932 --> 00:45:42,195 I had this big, big knife. I could show you a knife like that. 695 00:45:42,369 --> 00:45:44,371 You know, a big butcher knife thing, you know? 696 00:45:44,545 --> 00:45:45,938 And he held it near me. 697 00:45:46,112 --> 00:45:49,071 And he just said, you know, something. 698 00:45:49,245 --> 00:45:50,725 It was just so stupid. 699 00:45:50,899 --> 00:45:53,119 I mean, that really did happen. 700 00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:55,904 And it scared me, and it made me angry. 701 00:45:56,078 --> 00:45:59,429 And actually, right then, we got interrupted, 702 00:45:59,603 --> 00:46:02,519 and I don't know what would have ever happened. I think nothing. 703 00:46:02,693 --> 00:46:06,697 But I ceased associating with him at that time. 704 00:46:06,872 --> 00:46:08,308 I realized, I thought, you know what? 705 00:46:08,482 --> 00:46:11,180 This is getting a little too heavy here. 706 00:46:11,354 --> 00:46:15,532 I don't want to be involved with this guy anymore 707 00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:20,842 because he's getting a little too dark and weird, and I get scared of that. 708 00:46:21,016 --> 00:46:24,846 The part of him that was maybe passive and beautiful 709 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:27,240 and wanted to be loved, 710 00:46:27,414 --> 00:46:30,243 it's the part of him that he didn't like about being a sex object and a star. 711 00:46:30,417 --> 00:46:33,550 He hated it, but at the same time, I think he felt guilty 712 00:46:33,724 --> 00:46:39,034 because part of him liked it and attracted it, and those parts were warring. 713 00:46:39,208 --> 00:46:42,777 Jim and I were only involved in that sort of a relationship, 714 00:46:42,951 --> 00:46:45,649 I believe it was for one weekend. 715 00:46:45,824 --> 00:46:53,179 And he was, you know, very cuddly and warm, 716 00:46:53,353 --> 00:47:00,534 and he, I think, was so out of it that it wasn't a real focus. 717 00:47:00,708 --> 00:47:05,321 Um... you know, I was totally infatuated with him. 718 00:47:05,495 --> 00:47:07,889 He was sexy, and gorgeous, and incredible. 719 00:47:08,063 --> 00:47:11,197 And I certainly would have wanted more. 720 00:47:11,371 --> 00:47:15,636 But he, after that weekend, we sort of-- 721 00:47:15,810 --> 00:47:18,987 And then after I bailed him out of jail, we sort of... 722 00:47:19,161 --> 00:47:23,731 He asked if I would be his friend, and I said, yeah, I would. 723 00:47:23,905 --> 00:47:28,388 So, you know, that was really how we ended. 724 00:47:28,562 --> 00:47:31,391 He was being really romantic and everything was nice. 725 00:47:31,565 --> 00:47:32,696 And then... 726 00:47:34,350 --> 00:47:36,657 Okay, it's in the book. It's harder to say out loud. 727 00:47:36,831 --> 00:47:40,313 He sort of basically raped me-- 728 00:47:40,487 --> 00:47:43,794 "Sort of basically." Listen to me make it all nice. 729 00:47:44,795 --> 00:47:48,147 - in the ass, which I didn't wanna do. 730 00:47:48,321 --> 00:47:51,541 And I totally said, "No, I don't want to," and all that stuff, 731 00:47:51,715 --> 00:47:54,370 which is the classic, "Is this rape or not?" 732 00:47:54,544 --> 00:47:58,722 And then he pinned my arms back and down. 733 00:47:59,332 --> 00:48:03,858 And that's why I think, still, he was... 734 00:48:04,032 --> 00:48:08,210 Not excusing him, but I think he just went-- He just went psycho. 735 00:48:08,384 --> 00:48:12,998 It's because it's like his eyes were, like, this sweet blue, and he was sort of tender. 736 00:48:13,172 --> 00:48:16,784 And then they just-- He looked like a possessed monster. 737 00:48:16,958 --> 00:48:20,744 I mean, like, black dilated eyes, just like... 738 00:48:20,919 --> 00:48:26,011 And it was like-- It was beyond anger. It was fury. It was rage. 739 00:48:26,185 --> 00:48:29,928 It seems increasingly likely that something happened 740 00:48:30,102 --> 00:48:33,975 that he felt very ambivalent about, and that he had rage about. 741 00:48:37,979 --> 00:48:41,809 [Jeff] While Jim was sabotaging his personal life, at the same time, 742 00:48:41,983 --> 00:48:45,030 he rebelled against his chosen profession. 743 00:48:45,204 --> 00:48:50,296 On December 9th, 1967, the day after Jim's 24th birthday, 744 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:54,822 The Doors were scheduled to play the New Haven Arena in Connecticut. 745 00:48:54,996 --> 00:48:59,392 The freight train of Jim's personal unrest had been speeding out of control, 746 00:48:59,566 --> 00:49:02,743 but in New Haven, the wheels fell off. 747 00:49:02,917 --> 00:49:05,964 Jim was maced in the eye by Arthur Baker, 748 00:49:06,138 --> 00:49:10,881 a New Haven cop who hadn't recognized him backstage before the show, 749 00:49:11,056 --> 00:49:16,583 while he and an 18-year-old Southern Connecticut co-ed named Sandy were making out. 750 00:49:17,149 --> 00:49:20,195 New Haven marked Jim not only as the first rock star 751 00:49:20,369 --> 00:49:23,503 arrested on stage mid-performance, 752 00:49:23,677 --> 00:49:26,375 but it also found him a victim of police brutality 753 00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:28,725 at the hands of the New Haven cops, 754 00:49:28,899 --> 00:49:32,599 who arrested him for breach of peace, resisting arrest, 755 00:49:32,773 --> 00:49:35,950 and indecent or immoral exhibition. 756 00:49:36,124 --> 00:49:38,561 In her book Wild Child, 757 00:49:38,735 --> 00:49:43,436 Linda Ashcroft described purple bruising on Jim's body following New Haven. 758 00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:47,440 The cops apparently were careful to avoid hitting Jim's face, 759 00:49:47,614 --> 00:49:50,312 and his mug shot supports that theory. 760 00:49:50,486 --> 00:49:55,143 Eventually, all charges were dropped, but the fuse had been lit. 761 00:49:55,317 --> 00:50:00,018 Jim was well on his way to becoming not just legendary, but infamous, 762 00:50:00,192 --> 00:50:04,892 and like something akin to a serial rock star. 763 00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:09,636 Pissed off and lashing out after recent frustrations 764 00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:11,551 surrounding the Ed Sullivan Show, 765 00:50:11,725 --> 00:50:14,162 the Hilton ballroom concert, and New Haven, 766 00:50:14,336 --> 00:50:19,341 Morrison was ticking like a time bomb, and the fuse grew shorter still. 767 00:50:19,515 --> 00:50:23,737 In Las Vegas on the night of January 28th, 1968, 768 00:50:23,911 --> 00:50:27,567 Jim was attacked and clubbed on the head at the Pussycat A Go-Go 769 00:50:27,741 --> 00:50:30,222 by a security guard named Paul Swoger 770 00:50:30,396 --> 00:50:33,181 who thought Jim was publicly smoking a joint. 771 00:50:33,355 --> 00:50:38,491 Jim and his friend, the author Robert Gover, were arrested by Vegas police. 772 00:50:38,665 --> 00:50:41,320 Like déjà vu from the New Haven bust, 773 00:50:41,494 --> 00:50:44,497 Morrison apparently was a victim of police brutality. 774 00:50:44,671 --> 00:50:48,414 His view of fame had been permanently altered. 775 00:50:49,502 --> 00:50:53,158 I think in the last thing, he threatened if they went through with it that he'd-- 776 00:50:53,332 --> 00:50:56,683 Next TV show or something, he'd have a Buick on stage, 777 00:50:56,857 --> 00:50:58,728 and beat it to death with a sledgehammer. 778 00:50:58,902 --> 00:51:00,339 [glass shattering] 779 00:51:01,688 --> 00:51:05,996 [Jeff] The bomb finally went off on March 1st, 1969, 780 00:51:06,171 --> 00:51:10,653 when the doors performed at the Dinner Key Auditorium in Miami Beach, Florida. 781 00:51:12,046 --> 00:51:14,266 Days after the concert, 782 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,834 Jim was gaslit with charges for his alleged actions that night, 783 00:51:18,008 --> 00:51:23,623 including indecent exposure, even though there was no proof, photographic or otherwise. 784 00:51:23,797 --> 00:51:26,582 [man] We have taken out two warrants for Jim Morrison. 785 00:51:26,756 --> 00:51:29,455 One of them is for indecent exposure. 786 00:51:30,934 --> 00:51:33,894 The other is for the use of obscene languages 787 00:51:34,068 --> 00:51:37,463 during his performance at Dinner Key Saturday night. 788 00:51:38,768 --> 00:51:41,162 [Morrison] Well, in the realm of art and theater, 789 00:51:41,336 --> 00:51:46,689 I do think that there should be complete freedom for the artist and performer. 790 00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:51,259 I'm not personally that convinced... 791 00:51:53,218 --> 00:51:58,788 that nudity is always, you know, a necessary part of a, you know, a play or film, 792 00:51:58,962 --> 00:52:04,359 but the artist should feel free to use it if he feels like it. 793 00:52:04,707 --> 00:52:06,056 They were gonna get him. 794 00:52:06,231 --> 00:52:08,624 There was no question that that was a... 795 00:52:12,585 --> 00:52:14,891 A frame job, as far as I was concerned. 796 00:52:15,457 --> 00:52:18,373 They were out to get him, and they did get him. 797 00:52:18,547 --> 00:52:21,071 [Jeff] On September 20th, 1970, 798 00:52:21,246 --> 00:52:26,207 the Miami jury found Jim guilty of indecent exposure and profanity, 799 00:52:26,381 --> 00:52:28,296 both misdemeanors. 800 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:33,258 He was released on a $5000 bond, later upped to 50,000. 801 00:52:33,432 --> 00:52:39,046 During trial, Densmore, Krieger, and Manzarek denied that Jim had exposed himself on stage. 802 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:42,615 You know, and that Miami thing was the stupidest thing I ever heard in my life. 803 00:52:42,789 --> 00:52:45,705 I mean, for heaven's sake, indecent exposure? What the fuck was that? 804 00:52:45,879 --> 00:52:47,794 [Jeff] They've never proven if he whipped it out or not. 805 00:52:47,968 --> 00:52:50,449 I know, and, you know, and I've seen the film on that too. 806 00:52:50,623 --> 00:52:52,320 And you really can't... I mean, it's like, what? 807 00:52:52,494 --> 00:52:55,193 [Andy] When you get back to it, even the Miami thing... 808 00:52:56,716 --> 00:52:58,761 He never really did anything evil. 809 00:52:58,935 --> 00:53:02,200 He was terrified at the prospect of going to prison. 810 00:53:02,374 --> 00:53:05,855 He was terrified at the prospect of being convicted. 811 00:53:06,029 --> 00:53:10,295 He was scared to death of what was gonna happen to him once he was in Raiford. 812 00:53:10,469 --> 00:53:12,601 Max said it would be okay. 813 00:53:12,775 --> 00:53:16,736 But Jim didn't entirely believe Max on that. 814 00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:22,350 He'd been warned several times, actually, that he would be dead once he got to Raiford. 815 00:53:22,524 --> 00:53:24,134 That would be it. 816 00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:25,832 He said the inmates said they could hardly wait for Jim. 817 00:53:26,006 --> 00:53:28,269 That the rednecks were ready to get him. 818 00:53:28,443 --> 00:53:33,622 [Jeff] The Doors' end came in New Orleans on December 11th, 1970, 819 00:53:33,796 --> 00:53:36,669 during Jim's final show with the band. 820 00:53:36,843 --> 00:53:39,846 He no longer could perform, so in his frustration, 821 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:44,981 Jim smashed the mic stand into the wooden stage until it splintered, 822 00:53:45,155 --> 00:53:49,203 then tossed the jagged, broken stand into the crowd. 823 00:53:49,377 --> 00:53:55,296 He rambled incoherently and finally, exhausted, sat down on the drum riser. 824 00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:58,256 Jim was, in a word, done. 825 00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:04,914 There was a meeting, and it was before that tour started. 826 00:54:05,088 --> 00:54:10,268 And, you know, it had become a business at that point. 827 00:54:10,442 --> 00:54:16,361 There was no longer the art of making music. It was a business. 828 00:54:16,883 --> 00:54:22,584 And Vince came and told me that, as it goes right now, 829 00:54:23,846 --> 00:54:30,375 on this tour, he acts up one time, that's it. He's thrown out of the band. 830 00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:33,160 He's kicked out of the band. That's it. 831 00:54:33,334 --> 00:54:35,945 So everything was going good until... 832 00:54:38,861 --> 00:54:40,994 New Orleans. 833 00:54:41,168 --> 00:54:45,781 [Jeff] You're stating with absolution that Jim Morrison was kicked... 834 00:54:45,955 --> 00:54:47,740 Kicked out of the band. 835 00:54:47,914 --> 00:54:50,656 That was-- Vince and I talked about that. 836 00:54:52,527 --> 00:54:53,746 Vince couldn't believe it. 837 00:54:55,878 --> 00:54:58,098 So he was essentially booted out of his own band. 838 00:54:58,272 --> 00:54:59,186 Yeah. 839 00:55:02,624 --> 00:55:07,063 Jim was never meant to be [laughs] 840 00:55:07,237 --> 00:55:09,892 in the limelight, and all the fame. 841 00:55:10,066 --> 00:55:14,462 That was just not something he ever would've strived toward. 842 00:55:14,636 --> 00:55:19,119 It was very hard on him to have to live that type of life. 843 00:55:19,293 --> 00:55:22,818 [Cohen] It's so sad, you know, that he's this unhappy, 844 00:55:22,992 --> 00:55:27,127 you know, because everybody's looking at him like he's 845 00:55:27,301 --> 00:55:29,521 you know, the great Jim Morrison. 846 00:55:29,695 --> 00:55:32,611 And he's really not happy at all. 847 00:55:32,785 --> 00:55:35,440 You know, he's really sad, and I was sad for him. 848 00:55:35,614 --> 00:55:38,834 [Babitz] Jim wanted to be a poet, and so making this segue 849 00:55:39,008 --> 00:55:43,709 of becoming a singer and fronting a band, I think was uncomfortable for him. 850 00:55:43,883 --> 00:55:47,582 And, you know, he took to it so naturally once he started doing it, 851 00:55:47,756 --> 00:55:53,066 you know, because he was, you know, obviously incredible as a front man. 852 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:55,416 But I think it was hard. 853 00:55:55,590 --> 00:56:00,943 He was also very shy, and it didn't come easy to him. 854 00:56:01,117 --> 00:56:09,822 [woman] It struck me so hard that between summer of '68 and March of '71... 855 00:56:11,737 --> 00:56:13,739 which is the last time I saw him... 856 00:56:15,741 --> 00:56:18,178 in two years, he just decomposed. 857 00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:21,007 [Cohen] It ended up where he wasn't him. 858 00:56:21,964 --> 00:56:23,401 He was the act. 859 00:56:23,575 --> 00:56:25,881 And I think that's what really destroyed Jim. 860 00:56:26,055 --> 00:56:29,711 Instead of finding himself with The Doors, I think he lost himself. 861 00:56:32,845 --> 00:56:36,979 [Jeff] Jim had gotten to the point of being, in his own words, 862 00:56:37,153 --> 00:56:39,155 a hollow idol. 863 00:56:41,549 --> 00:56:43,638 With his mounting legal pressures, 864 00:56:43,812 --> 00:56:48,251 feeling constricted by fame, and being out of a job, 865 00:56:48,426 --> 00:56:52,255 Jim made the decision to flee with Pam Courson to Paris 866 00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:55,911 with the intention to live there indefinitely. 867 00:56:58,218 --> 00:57:03,745 I didn't think, when I saw Jim leave in 1971 and go to France, 868 00:57:03,919 --> 00:57:06,356 that he'd ever come back to the band again. 869 00:57:06,531 --> 00:57:10,056 Coming in to the Village recorders on his 27th birthday, 870 00:57:10,839 --> 00:57:16,454 overweight, haggard, coming in to just simply record all his poetry. 871 00:57:17,019 --> 00:57:21,676 Coming in there alone, it's always struck me that this was a guy 872 00:57:21,850 --> 00:57:24,679 who knew he had limited time left, 873 00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:29,162 and this was his way of putting down his last will and testament. 874 00:57:29,336 --> 00:57:31,773 This was gonna be his legacy, you know? 875 00:57:31,947 --> 00:57:34,646 He didn't want The Doors, he didn't want anyone else in there, 876 00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:38,519 he just wanted his words and his poetry there, and to be remembered for that. 877 00:57:39,868 --> 00:57:41,566 [Gareth] The song "Hyacinth House" 878 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:44,090 is one of the last songs he did on L.A. Woman. 879 00:57:44,264 --> 00:57:49,312 And as you know, one of his first songs was "The End." 880 00:57:49,487 --> 00:57:53,360 I mean, and all through the song, it says, "I need a brand new friend, the end." 881 00:57:54,666 --> 00:57:59,192 And it also says in there, 882 00:58:00,106 --> 00:58:02,369 "Why did you throw the jack of hearts away? 883 00:58:02,543 --> 00:58:04,893 It was the only card that I had left to play." 884 00:58:05,807 --> 00:58:08,810 Meaning, why did you throw me out of the band? That's all I had left. 885 00:58:09,550 --> 00:58:11,813 I think Jim was very disappointed. 886 00:58:11,987 --> 00:58:16,209 He knew the problem. He knew the problem was his alcoholism 887 00:58:16,383 --> 00:58:22,389 and having distractions, the type of friends that were hangers-on. 888 00:58:22,563 --> 00:58:24,434 And he wanted to remedy that. 889 00:58:24,609 --> 00:58:31,093 And I think he felt that going to France was the remedy. 890 00:58:31,267 --> 00:58:33,052 He just simply said he was gonna leave this country 891 00:58:33,226 --> 00:58:36,838 and not come back until that damn case was finished, over, 892 00:58:37,012 --> 00:58:41,626 and he was declared free, and was not gonna go to Raiford. 893 00:58:43,845 --> 00:58:46,021 [woman] We're saying goodbye and everything else, 894 00:58:46,195 --> 00:58:49,721 Jim makes me promise that I'll call him in a couple of days to say goodbye 895 00:58:49,895 --> 00:58:52,201 you know, even more formally. 896 00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:54,943 I had been working on a book, and I'd been working on it for quite some time. 897 00:58:55,117 --> 00:59:01,254 And this is about a rock band, and a very, very successful band, 898 00:59:01,428 --> 00:59:03,473 young performer and everything else. 899 00:59:03,648 --> 00:59:06,868 And I had actually started it several years before I'd even met Jim. 900 00:59:07,042 --> 00:59:11,917 And it gets to the point where they're literally pulling themselves apart, 901 00:59:12,091 --> 00:59:13,701 and their management is pulling them apart, 902 00:59:13,875 --> 00:59:16,791 and they're supposed to do a rock opera, 903 00:59:16,965 --> 00:59:18,837 and they're supposed to be doing this and that, 904 00:59:19,011 --> 00:59:22,667 and it's just everything that the lead singer does not wanna do. 905 00:59:22,841 --> 00:59:25,800 It's against everything of his nature. 906 00:59:25,974 --> 00:59:28,150 And so finally, he just can't take it anymore. 907 00:59:28,324 --> 00:59:31,589 He just, you know-- And instead of blowing his brains out 908 00:59:31,763 --> 00:59:33,852 or doing something, whatever, 909 00:59:34,026 --> 00:59:40,162 he, literally onstage, stages an electrocution, where it's going to be, 910 00:59:40,336 --> 00:59:43,731 "Is he dead or did he survive?" 911 00:59:43,905 --> 00:59:46,038 And you don't really know. 912 00:59:46,212 --> 00:59:50,738 You kind of get the hints that, no, he staged it, and he's just gone on, 913 00:59:50,912 --> 00:59:52,784 and he's just had it with the whole band. 914 00:59:54,220 --> 00:59:58,354 So just as I'm leaving, he leans over and whispers in my ear, 915 00:59:59,921 --> 01:00:03,882 "If you don't finish the book, I just might steal your ending." 916 01:00:05,797 --> 01:00:08,800 [Stevenson] He liked to test people. He liked to see their reactions. 917 01:00:08,974 --> 01:00:13,413 He liked to poke around, you know, in your psyche. 918 01:00:13,587 --> 01:00:19,767 And again, that's why, you know, is the abuse real? Is the death real? 919 01:00:19,941 --> 01:00:22,552 Is anything real about Jim Morrison? 920 01:00:22,727 --> 01:00:27,645 Or is Jim Morrison really somebody else that we don't know? 921 01:00:28,602 --> 01:00:32,388 Or do we only know the person we think he is? 922 01:00:41,528 --> 01:00:44,574 [Jeff] The final chapter of No One Here Gets Out Alive 923 01:00:44,749 --> 01:00:48,230 mentions a young woman named Robyn Wurtele, 924 01:00:48,404 --> 01:00:50,929 who was hired by Jim as his personal assistant 925 01:00:51,103 --> 01:00:54,541 during the last few weeks of his life in Paris. 926 01:00:54,715 --> 01:01:00,678 She's described as having been, along with Pam, Siddons, Ronay, and Agnès Varda, 927 01:01:00,852 --> 01:01:03,245 one of the five reported mourners 928 01:01:03,419 --> 01:01:08,598 at Père Lachaise on Wednesday, July 7th, 1971. 929 01:01:12,515 --> 01:01:15,693 Back in 1996, I tried to interview Robyn 930 01:01:15,867 --> 01:01:19,609 for a book I was researching about the real Jim. 931 01:01:19,784 --> 01:01:24,789 But because her full name had been misspelled in all Morrison biographies, 932 01:01:24,963 --> 01:01:28,488 I couldn't locate her in that early Internet age. 933 01:01:33,841 --> 01:01:37,453 At the time, I was under the impression that Robyn Wurtele 934 01:01:37,627 --> 01:01:40,761 was a pseudonym or fictional construct. 935 01:01:43,024 --> 01:01:48,551 Twenty years later, during the summer of 2016, I finally found Robyn. 936 01:01:48,726 --> 01:01:53,208 She's one of the last people to have seen Jim Morrison alive. 937 01:01:53,382 --> 01:01:56,603 And she was one of Jim's trusted inner circle 938 01:01:56,777 --> 01:02:00,172 who likely helped him vanish without a trace. 939 01:02:03,044 --> 01:02:06,352 In any case, I was about to find out. 940 01:02:06,874 --> 01:02:11,749 What Robyn Wurtele told me was mind-blowing, to say the least, 941 01:02:11,923 --> 01:02:16,666 and would reignite my quest for the real truth. 942 01:02:21,628 --> 01:02:25,675 [music] 84941

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