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I like interviews
because it's that strange area
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where you try and pin down
something that happened
in the past.
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Those who insist
the legendary Jim Morrison
died at age 27 in Paris, France,
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on or around July 3rd, 1971,
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are speculating
or withholding information.
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That, combined with a lack
of autopsy,
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no verified corroboration
substantiating
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the French medical practice
of Dr. Max Vasile,
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his purported French
death certificate signature,
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or his presumed cause
of Jim's death as,
quote, "heart failure,"
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as well as a sustained absence
of Morrison's reputed
1971 United States passport,
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raises the question
of collusion, places the burden
of proof on those in the know,
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and renders the variable,
quote, "official story,"
a cold case mystery.
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Fifty years later,
as of the year 2021,
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testimonial evidence,
the type admissible
in a court of law,
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and probatory information
supporting Morrison
staging his death
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has never been brought to light.
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Until now.
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...of landing a man on the moon
and returning him
safely to the--
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Jim Morrison, the lead singer
for The Doors,
a rock music group, is dead.
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He was 27.
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His personal manager
said he died in Paris, probably
of heart failure, last Saturday.
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His manager said Morrison died
six days ago in Paris, either
of a heart attack or pneumonia.
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Jim Morrison is dead,
and they say natural causes,
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which is really a strange thing
in a 30-year-old person,
or thereabouts.
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Natural causes.
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Which natural causes,
in specific, he wasn't sure.
Someone else...
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We are awaiting
Mr. Siddons' arrival here
to make it official.
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They said that the
reason they didn't announce it
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prior to the middle of the night
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was because they wanted to avoid
this sort of circus carnival.
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But the death was kept
secret to avoid a sensation.
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He was buried in Paris
in the same cemetery
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where Balzac and
other French immortals lie.
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My name is Jeff Finn,
and I'm a lifetime fan
of Jim Morrison,
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most well known as the infamous
lead singer and lyricist
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of groundbreaking
1960s rock band, The Doors.
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Legendary though he may be,
there's far more
to Morrison's story.
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I've made it my life's work
to extract the truth
from a 50-year-old tale
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that's been riddled with rumor,
lies and myth.
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Who was the real
James Douglas Morrison?
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Join me as I dive down
the Morrison rabbit hole.
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But I can't guarantee
you'll make it back out
with your sanity fully intact.
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Because as I've found,
the walls of the rabbit hole
are lined with coincidences,
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often too many to explain.
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From July 1965 to April 1971,
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a short span that bookended
the turbulent late 1960s,
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Jim dragged the innocuous era
of rock and roll
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kicking and screaming into
the more mature realm of rock,
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which quickly evolved from
John Lennon sweetly singing
about wanting to hold your hand,
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to Jim howling about wanting
to kill his father
and fuck his mother.
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In the spring of 1966,
The Doors scored
their first big break
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when they became the house band
at the Whiskey a Go Go
on Sunset Boulevard.
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Deriving cinematic inspiration
from the shared
UCLA film school education
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of Jim and fellow student
Ray Manzarek,
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The Doors
also wielded the techniques
of avant-garde theater
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via the orgasmic
tension and release
of surreal pregnant pauses.
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As a band, they employed
the unorthodox approach
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of Manzarek's
carnivalesque organ...
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John Densmore's dynamic
jazz-influenced drum accents...
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and Robby Krieger's
eerie bottleneck guitar
and unique songwriting ability.
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Jim, who had no formal
musical training,
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had a natural aptitude
for vocal melodies
and song composition,
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which he wedded
to his immersive poems
in the form of lyrics.
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♪ Before you slip into
Unconsciousness ♪
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The Doors, the first
dark band to seize the mass
postmodern consciousness,
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enjoyed many firsts,
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from having
their debut album promoted
via the first rock billboard
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on Hollywood's Sunset Strip,
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to Jim infamously ignoring
a censorship plea
from The Ed Sullivan Show.
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The Doors, who had
number-one singles in the US
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with 1967's "Light My Fire"
and 1968's "Hello, I Love You,"
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truly were
a groundbreaking unit.
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The Doors also helped
usher in arena rock,
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and Jim, as if in defiant reply,
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promptly became the first
rock star arrested on stage.
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By the time of Jim Morrison's
alleged death, The Doors had
sold nearly five million albums,
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and they went on to become
the first American band
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to accumulate eight
consecutive gold records.
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In 1993, The Doors were inducted
into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
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And by 2021, they had sold
over 100 million records
worldwide,
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earning them the title of
one of the best-selling
musical artists of all time.
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Taken together,
this is truly remarkable,
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especially given the erratic
nature of Jim Morrison,
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who single-handedly created
the post-James Dean archetype
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of the "live fast, die young"
rock frontman.
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Jim Morrison
accomplished all of this
in just under six years
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and before the age of 27.
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I've always found Jim's untimely
death at 27 highly suspicious.
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Exasperated by the ravages of fame,
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Jim and his on-off soulmate
Pamela Corson fled to Paris.
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Pam flew out of L.A.
around Valentine's Day,
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and Jim joined her
a few weeks later in March.
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Their French sabbatical
lasted less than four months.
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He seemed to enjoy
living as an outlaw
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in self-imposed exile
for a while.
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Paris was Jim's
most romantic option,
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but a fresh identity
was his most realistic way out
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after having been pigeonholed
as a rock star.
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For Jim, it was either
a new life or death.
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Pam claimed she had
a French doctor prescribe
asthma medication for Jim,
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but no proof has materialized.
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In any case,
like the apparent doctor who
signed Jim's death certificate,
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there's been no trace
of the asthma doctor.
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Jim and Pam were said
to have been platonic
for more than a year, pre-Paris.
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And in the City of Light,
they seem to have spent
as much time together as apart.
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Pam spent time with her periodic
lover and drug dealer,
Jean de Breteuil,
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while Jim enjoyed the company
of his close friend,
Alain Ronay, and others.
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Arnold Derwin,
Jim's Los Angeles doctor,
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told me that other than
his drinking, Jim was,
quote, "healthy as a horse"
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in the year before he left L.A.
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Another source that shall
be revealed informed me,
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quote, "Jim was no alcoholic
when I knew him in Paris,
and Pam was no junkie."
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That same source stated
that the rumors of Jim
dying of heroin
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were, quote, "ridiculous."
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But back to the official story.
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Jim purportedly died
of any number of maladies,
with alcohol winning out.
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A coffin was delivered
to Jim and Pam's apartment,
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where his corpse
was placed inside
and the coffin was sealed
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before any Morrison
family member could travel
to identify the body.
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Assuming a coffin was buried,
it would be just like Jim,
a notorious prankster,
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to hide behind a tree
at his own funeral.
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A grieving Pam flew back to L.A.
with a unique carry-on item,
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a metal strongbox full of Jim's
poems and the cryptic phrase,
"127 fascination."
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The more I learned
about Jim's reported death,
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including the various rumors
and alternate stories
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regarding his supposed
heroin overdose
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at the Rock 'N' Roll Circus,
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with its altruistic bouncers
and-or drug dealers
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apparently having transported
his body across town
to his Paris flat,
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the more I found myself
with infinitely more questions
than answers.
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For this docuseries, I traveled
across the United States
several times.
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I contacted nearly
a thousand people
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and interviewed hundreds
who are connected to Jim.
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So while I ultimately
may not prove anything,
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it's my goal to leave you,
my fellow detectives,
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with enough
scenarios and evidence
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to form your own opinions
and draw your own conclusions.
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But a word of advice:
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Never take anyone or anything
at face value.
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And that includes
the face of a ghost.
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So, and that's how
he shows up as deceased.
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Because the last name
is spelled incorrectly.
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That's totally possible.
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Following nearly a year
of positive and friendly
communication
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with Morrison insiders
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regarding potential interviews
for this documentary,
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including some of the most
high profile figures
related to The Doors,
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one by one, like dominoes,
nearly two dozen
stopped speaking with me.
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I thought it was strange that
each of them went radio silent
around the same time...
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until much later, when I learned
the usual suspects
had shut down my talks.
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And to add to the film noir-like
air that reeked of collusion,
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that particular information was
imparted to me by my movie's
very own Deep Throat,
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who prefaced
their ironclad evidence
with the telling phrase:
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"You didn't hear this from me."
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Initially, this docuseries
was completed in late 2016,
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but a sudden and unexpected
development took my search
for Jim Morrison, the person,
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on a surreal trip
I never could have imagined.
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The Facebook page for
Before the End was the early
headquarters for my project
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before it was tainted
by the obligatory
haters and trolls.
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Nevertheless,
I'll always be grateful
for the true believers
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who supported my vision
with their patience,
understanding and good humor.
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A follower of my Before the End
Facebook page
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saw a post
on my personal Facebook page
that I had made public.
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The person who I didn't know
liked and shared my post.
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When I checked out
the stranger's profile photo,
it was surreal:
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a picture that was cropped,
revealing only half his face.
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I opened the photo
and the image I saw haunted me.
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The right side of the photo
showed someone
I was very familiar with,
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John Densmore,
the drummer of The Doors.
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And on the other side was a man
who looked to be in his 70s.
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I recognized his face.
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Was this the man
I'd been researching
for over half my life?
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Could this be Jim Morrison?
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Skeptical that
it might be a hoax,
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I took the images
to Cheryl Bombaugh,
my private investigator,
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to trust in her
professionally trained eye
and objective opinion.
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My cases vary a lot, but I've
never had a case, you know,
at all like this.
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I mean, the guy doesn't
have a wrinkle on his face.
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- Right.
- You know?
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And his eyes do resemble
Jim's, I think.
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Just the way they look.
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I know that they're not
the same color,
because Jim's eyes are blue.
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Um...
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I don't know.
I don't even know what to say.
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I mean, I really could be led
either way.
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Armed with this information,
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I went home
and began digging deeper into
the man I nicknamed Frank X.
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I was intrigued to learn
he was Facebook friends
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with a number of Morrison
and Doors-related people,
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some of them insiders,
including Julia Negron,
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Doors drummer
John Densmore's ex-wife,
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Tony Funches,
Jim's former bodyguard,
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and Hervé Muller,
one of the few friends Jim made
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during his brief time in Paris.
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I was enticed by Frank's
scant Facebook photos,
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so I messaged him
because I suspected he was Jim.
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And to my surprise,
six days later, he replied.
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He told me he shared
the same love for The Doors
and Jim's music and poetry.
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Then Frank joked
about bumping into The Doors
at the Eastman Theatre
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in Rochester, New York in 1968.
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So I asked if he'd send me
another photo of himself
from when he was younger.
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He said he would look around,
but then he went dark
on Facebook for a spell.
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It felt like a game
of cat and mouse.
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Then Frank sent me an old photo
of a signed ID card from 1978.
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In my research,
I found another Frank
in Syracuse, New York,
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with the same first, middle
and last name.
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But he apparently died in 2015.
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I took the photos to a photo lab
to see if they could be
the same person
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nearly 40 years apart.
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I learned about rosacea
and scarring, and was told that,
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like thinning hair,
eyebrows can fade,
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but their shape remains.
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Whether or not
the two Franks were the same,
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I imagined
Syracuse ID Frank met Jim,
perhaps at the Eastman Theater,
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and Jim made Frank
an offer he couldn't refuse.
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Cheryl said,
like identity theft,
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the consensual use
of another's identity
is known as piggybacking.
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Upon closer inspection,
it appeared where Jim
had a mole, Frank had a scar.
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I decided
the only way to uncover
what was really going on
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entailed my paying a visit
to Frank X in person.
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So I enlisted Cheryl's help,
and we were off.
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- Let's go find...
- Let's go find Frank.
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Yeah, or as we might be
referring to him, Mr. X.
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Yes, Mr. X.
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I tried to get some rest
on the plane,
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but was having a difficult time
because all I could see
were two images.
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One was Jim's face
with a mole near his nose.
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The other was Frank's face
without the mole,
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but there appeared
to be a small scar.
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Here it is, finally happening.
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Welcome to Syracuse, New York.
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Let's do this.
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After doing some
preliminary recon,
we checked into our rooms.
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The gravity of what was about
to go down the following day
was overwhelming.
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I have spent a better part
of my life since I was 18
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searching for Jim Morrison,
literally and figuratively.
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And to now be this close,
it's a strange thing.
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I don't want to ever bring,
you know, pain to him
or Jim or anyone.
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At the same time,
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I want to share the joy
in knowing that Jim survived.
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All right. Here I am.
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Somewhere in New York.
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I've, uh... I'm waiting.
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I'm now waiting.
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There we go.
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Here he is. Frank.
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Hello?
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Frank?
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Yeah.
251
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Hey, how are you?
252
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- Yeah. Okay.
- Okay.
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- Thanks, man.
- See you then.
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- Okay, bye.
- Okay.
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Holy shit.
256
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Well, we're gonna meet.
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I can't believe there's
a thunderstorm outside.
It's amazing.
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Riders on a storm.
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All right.
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Last interview for
Before The End:
Searching For Jim Morrison.
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And amazingly I call Frank,
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and he's been kind enough
to allow me to
do this interview.
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Frank and I have been friends
on Facebook...
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00:24:26,573 --> 00:24:32,187
I decided to throw Frank
a curveball right off the bat
to see if he was legit.
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Poetry was key
to James Douglas Morrison.
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It would be one thing
for a maintenance man
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living in middle-of-nowhere
New York
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to have an appreciation
of classical poets.
269
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But for those poets to be
the exact ones Jim favored
stretched credulity thin.
270
00:24:50,597 --> 00:24:56,037
And only added
to an already absurd amount
of growing coincidences.
271
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And who would you say
is your favorite poet?
272
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I like Baudelaire.
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I don't read a lot of, uh,
new poetry that I can think of.
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00:25:08,266 --> 00:25:14,795
He said that pleasure
cannot be possible
without the presence of evil.
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And forgive me,
whose quote was this?
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Baudelaire.
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Jim was always a reader
and I think poetry or romantic
in some ways and, uh...
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He had some vision,
I can't imagine what.
279
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He wanted to commune with nature
or be closer to the heavens
or whatever.
280
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But he had me climb the tree
because I was more of a handyman
than he was.
281
00:26:02,146 --> 00:26:04,366
And anyway, if he could get me
to do something,
282
00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:08,979
he could be on the lazy side
and why not have
your little brother do it?
283
00:26:09,153 --> 00:26:11,112
But I climbed high up
in the tree
284
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and I had some nails
and a hammer that I drug up
in some wood
285
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and built him a little seat,
like a little nest up
in the tree.
286
00:26:19,294 --> 00:26:22,384
And he went up one day
and sat there
for about an hour,
287
00:26:22,558 --> 00:26:23,864
blowing in the breeze,
288
00:26:24,038 --> 00:26:27,258
and I think he kind of
gave up on that
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as being that romantic
and inspirational
or whatever he was,
290
00:26:31,915 --> 00:26:33,569
and I don't think
he ever used it again.
291
00:26:33,743 --> 00:26:35,658
He read voraciously.
292
00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:40,489
He dragged his books around
with him when they moved.
293
00:26:40,663 --> 00:26:46,190
He read far more challenging
books than were required
in his classes
294
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and sometimes his teachers
were amazed at the stuff
he said he had read,
295
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:53,067
and then to find
that he actually had read
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and could carry on
an intelligent conversation
about it.
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He was known for being
intellectually advanced
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anytime we got into topics
like anything literature.
299
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It just wasn't a question,
you know,
300
00:27:08,778 --> 00:27:12,477
that I think he pretty much
whapped everybody else
in school for that.
301
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He was number one.
302
00:27:14,828 --> 00:27:17,961
Obnoxious most of the time,
but he was number one.
303
00:27:18,135 --> 00:27:21,356
If you're number one,
you can be obnoxious about it.
304
00:27:25,012 --> 00:27:28,798
When I asked Jim's
high school classmate,
John Huetter,
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00:27:28,972 --> 00:27:35,152
if Jim ever submitted writing
to the student newspaper,
this was his response.
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00:27:35,936 --> 00:27:36,763
No.
307
00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:39,113
No, he thought that was...
308
00:27:40,027 --> 00:27:43,421
Heh, I'm not trying to use
the term loosely, sophomoric.
309
00:27:43,595 --> 00:27:45,815
I mean, he thought that was
really not interesting.
310
00:27:45,989 --> 00:27:50,646
That was something that
would-be English majors did,
you know.
311
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:52,430
But yeah, I forgot about that.
312
00:27:52,604 --> 00:27:54,084
Wow, you did some research here.
313
00:27:54,258 --> 00:27:57,174
I was the editor
of The Little Hatchet too. Yeah.
314
00:27:58,741 --> 00:28:03,877
Some of Jim's old friends
agreed to let me interview them
in the house where Jim lived
315
00:28:04,051 --> 00:28:08,533
while he attended
George Washington High School
in Alexandria, Virginia.
316
00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:11,275
So I headed over to meet them.
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00:28:20,371 --> 00:28:23,635
I followed the
four of them down
to Jim's former bedroom,
318
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:25,986
which occupied
the entire basement
of the house.
319
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,814
I'll just fall down
for dramatic effect.
320
00:28:27,988 --> 00:28:29,163
Yeah, right.
321
00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:33,123
We shared a stair
narrower than this.
322
00:28:33,297 --> 00:28:35,038
Now, look at this, Jim.
323
00:28:35,212 --> 00:28:37,171
- I mean, it's all open.
- Oh, my God.
324
00:28:37,345 --> 00:28:40,827
- Yeah. Where are all the books?
- Jesus.
325
00:28:42,002 --> 00:28:44,526
- Trying to remember
what it looked like.
- I remember that.
326
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:51,489
This door here, it was open
for anybody to come in. But this
is where everybody came in.
327
00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:55,276
And doors were open.
It was open for anybody.
328
00:28:55,450 --> 00:28:57,887
That's the only way I ever
came in was through that door.
329
00:28:58,061 --> 00:28:59,759
- Exactly.
- I was never upstairs.
330
00:28:59,933 --> 00:29:01,978
I was just gonna ask
you, did you guys generally
331
00:29:02,152 --> 00:29:04,851
enter and exit
through the exterior door?
332
00:29:05,025 --> 00:29:08,158
- Yeah. That was it.
- That was the way to get in.
333
00:29:08,332 --> 00:29:10,770
- And so did Jim.
- Yeah.
334
00:29:11,509 --> 00:29:13,207
Yeah. It's true.
335
00:29:13,381 --> 00:29:15,687
So he was pretty much free
to come and go as he wanted.
336
00:29:15,862 --> 00:29:17,820
Jim, this is how he came and--
337
00:29:18,516 --> 00:29:20,214
You know, came and went
from the house.
338
00:29:20,388 --> 00:29:22,216
- He was on foot
most of the time.
- Yeah.
339
00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:25,045
This was like his apartment,
if you really think about it.
340
00:29:25,219 --> 00:29:27,699
I don't know how much time
he spent upstairs at all.
341
00:29:27,874 --> 00:29:29,614
This place was full of books.
342
00:29:29,789 --> 00:29:31,965
- It was all books.
- Had a lot of books.
That's for sure.
343
00:29:32,139 --> 00:29:33,967
- And he read every one of them.
- Yeah.
344
00:29:34,141 --> 00:29:35,795
So we go to the bookstore.
345
00:29:35,969 --> 00:29:37,579
Everybody says, "Jim."
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00:29:37,753 --> 00:29:39,886
Go to another bookstore.
"Hey, Jim."
347
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:43,280
- Everybody knows this guy
in the bookstores, you know?
- Yeah.
348
00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:48,068
And a few little taverns
and mostly coffee shops.
349
00:29:48,242 --> 00:29:50,679
Yeah, there were liquor stores
there and bookstores there.
350
00:29:50,853 --> 00:29:52,986
He drank. Now,
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00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,641
I saw him drink half
a fifth of whiskey one night
down in my basement.
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00:29:57,164 --> 00:29:59,035
And I mean...
353
00:29:59,209 --> 00:30:01,124
you know, and then
a few minutes later...
354
00:30:01,298 --> 00:30:03,126
like that, you know,
and then it was like...
355
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,346
He drank out of the bottle.
356
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,565
How many people drank
out of the bottle
when we were in high school?
357
00:30:07,739 --> 00:30:08,828
- You know?
- Well...
358
00:30:09,567 --> 00:30:11,439
Yeah.
359
00:30:11,613 --> 00:30:14,137
Well, he would come over, I had
an art studio in my basement,
360
00:30:14,311 --> 00:30:18,533
and he'd come over there
and I had this huge piece of
canvas I tied across the room
361
00:30:18,707 --> 00:30:23,059
and he would sit there
and look at this canvas
362
00:30:23,233 --> 00:30:25,670
and then he would get some paint
and get up and...
363
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,935
he would start putting
these Oriental designs on it.
364
00:30:29,109 --> 00:30:30,762
It's what he said.
365
00:30:30,937 --> 00:30:34,288
He tried to convince me
that he could write Japanese.
366
00:30:35,245 --> 00:30:37,378
That's so Morrison.
367
00:30:37,552 --> 00:30:39,597
He had this one picture that he
made it over and over
and over again
368
00:30:39,771 --> 00:30:43,993
and it really made--
I just thought
this was the best.
369
00:30:44,167 --> 00:30:48,171
It was Christ on the cross
and of course he looked like
a shmoo.
370
00:30:49,085 --> 00:30:53,960
And below him were these
Roman soldiers with beers.
371
00:30:54,874 --> 00:30:56,484
You know?
372
00:30:56,658 --> 00:30:58,529
And they're like,
glug, glug, glug,
and pointing...
373
00:30:58,703 --> 00:31:00,096
And there's, you know--
374
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:03,621
And I thought,
"That's fabulous." You know?
375
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:07,060
Only Morrison could take
something that...
376
00:31:07,887 --> 00:31:12,413
- Sacred.
- Yeah, thank you, sacred,
and make it funny.
377
00:31:12,587 --> 00:31:16,591
And I just thought,
"This guy's really out there."
378
00:31:16,765 --> 00:31:19,463
- Well, I'm interested in seeing
this picture of Morrison.
- Yeah.
379
00:31:19,637 --> 00:31:21,770
Yeah, should we do it?
You want to do the honors?
380
00:31:21,944 --> 00:31:23,903
You do it.
You've got it. I mean...
381
00:31:24,077 --> 00:31:25,165
Yeah.
382
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:31,388
- And there it is.
- You've had it all these years.
383
00:31:31,562 --> 00:31:33,956
Yeah, all these years.
384
00:31:36,872 --> 00:31:40,006
It's kind of, once again,
the Christ thing, you know?
385
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:43,531
- Yeah.
- With his little joke,
Christ on the cross.
386
00:31:45,663 --> 00:31:51,800
Now, Jim, can you
describe for us how you came
into possession of the painting?
387
00:31:51,974 --> 00:31:56,326
Well, Morrison was going to
throw it out, and he tossed it
out here in the...
388
00:31:57,023 --> 00:31:58,546
Where's the garage?
389
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,765
I think there was a garage
out here at the time.
390
00:32:00,940 --> 00:32:03,681
The garage?
Yeah, there was, in the back.
391
00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:07,337
You know, he was going to throw
it out, and I retrieved it.
392
00:32:07,511 --> 00:32:12,603
And, you know,
I'm going to take this home
and, you know, save it.
393
00:32:12,777 --> 00:32:15,084
And he's like, "I don't care
what you do with it."
394
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:17,565
You know, "I don't want it."
395
00:32:17,739 --> 00:32:19,523
So, um, that's what happened.
396
00:32:20,133 --> 00:32:23,919
But the thing about Jim
in high school is,
compared to most of us,
397
00:32:24,398 --> 00:32:26,922
he was in the here and now,
you know?
398
00:32:27,096 --> 00:32:32,362
When you would encounter him,
some of the time, there was
this presence about him.
399
00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:37,150
And here we were just trying
to belong and feel like
we were cool.
400
00:32:37,324 --> 00:32:39,804
And Jim was
in another space altogether.
401
00:32:39,979 --> 00:32:42,546
- He didn't care
if you were there.
- He did not care.
402
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,508
Like I said earlier, when
Morrison said, "I'm gonna do
this," I knew he would do it.
403
00:32:48,639 --> 00:32:52,078
You know,
and a lot of other people
thought he was just joking.
404
00:32:52,252 --> 00:32:56,082
Yeah, the railing over
the Potomac, by the Potomac
at Hains Point,
405
00:32:56,256 --> 00:32:58,867
- he would get up and walk
on that railing.
- No kidding.
406
00:32:59,041 --> 00:33:01,913
And of course,
if you fell off,
407
00:33:02,088 --> 00:33:06,005
because the wall
comes straight up
and then there's a railing
408
00:33:06,179 --> 00:33:08,398
so you don't fall
into the river,
409
00:33:08,572 --> 00:33:12,359
and he'd get up and walk on it,
and if you did fall into it,
you were history.
410
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:16,406
If he had fallen off left,
he would have gone down
many, many feet,
411
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:18,843
we'd have never been able
to get him out ourselves,
I don't think.
412
00:33:19,018 --> 00:33:21,020
No.
413
00:33:21,629 --> 00:33:26,634
He would switch gears from this
very solemn somber demeanor.
He'd switch gears, right?
414
00:33:26,808 --> 00:33:30,029
You could tell when he was
gonna switch gears, "Uh-oh,
what's he gonna do?"
415
00:33:30,203 --> 00:33:31,987
- Right. That's true.
- Next thing you know,
416
00:33:32,161 --> 00:33:34,555
he's jumped up on something,
he's performing.
417
00:33:34,729 --> 00:33:38,776
He liked to take risks.
Basically, he was a show-off,
if he could get an audience.
418
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:41,736
You know, you could see where
this was gonna go eventually.
419
00:33:41,910 --> 00:33:44,521
I always thought
his IQ was so much higher.
420
00:33:44,695 --> 00:33:47,698
I mean, like you said,
he's different.
It was just a different level.
421
00:33:47,872 --> 00:33:49,439
So maybe it was that whole...
422
00:33:50,353 --> 00:33:51,876
ball of wax.
423
00:33:52,051 --> 00:33:53,748
- I think he escaped
into that stuff.
- Right.
424
00:33:53,922 --> 00:33:56,316
And so he escapes
into literature
425
00:33:56,490 --> 00:34:00,102
and becomes the characters
he's reading about
and tries it out.
426
00:34:01,930 --> 00:34:04,367
But I discovered
this guy Huxley.
427
00:34:04,541 --> 00:34:08,067
I said, "Jim, you really ought
to read this book,
Brave New World, you know?
428
00:34:08,241 --> 00:34:10,417
This guy is a real--
And some of his other stuff."
429
00:34:10,591 --> 00:34:13,811
And he was kind of taken aback
that I suggested
something to him
430
00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:16,075
- that he wasn't
as familiar with.
- Oh, man.
431
00:34:16,249 --> 00:34:19,426
Every so often, I was curious
about what he thought
about stuff.
432
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,211
And so I was trying to
move a conversation--
433
00:34:22,385 --> 00:34:28,826
Maybe you were the genesis for
the name "The Doors," because
Aldous Huxley wrote something--
434
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,481
- Well, The Doors of Perception.
- The Doors of Perception.
435
00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:35,224
- They were some essays
about mescaline and peyote.
- Yeah. Right.
436
00:34:35,398 --> 00:34:37,444
But "The Doors,"
that all came out of Blake.
437
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,626
Oh, yeah, yeah, "The Doors,"
the expression comes from Blake.
438
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,758
- It comes from Blake.
- Right. That's true.
439
00:34:47,932 --> 00:34:49,717
- Who knows?
- Yeah. Yeah.
440
00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:56,202
The conversation
turned to the topic of Jim's
first girlfriend, Tandy Martin,
441
00:34:56,376 --> 00:35:01,337
who I believed held one of
the keys to understanding him
as a real person.
442
00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:04,471
Did he ever have a date
that you know of?
443
00:35:04,645 --> 00:35:05,646
Other than Tandy?
444
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:06,951
- Well, Tandy.
- Yeah.
445
00:35:09,258 --> 00:35:12,131
He didn't date anybody
that I know.
446
00:35:12,305 --> 00:35:15,395
With Tandy, I don't know
what kind of a relationship
it was, but...
447
00:35:15,569 --> 00:35:17,658
- According to her,
it wasn't much.
- Is that right?
448
00:35:17,832 --> 00:35:19,573
- They were friends.
- Yeah.
449
00:35:19,747 --> 00:35:23,968
I remember having a conversation
with Tandy about Jim's future,
450
00:35:24,143 --> 00:35:28,669
and she was certain that he was
going to become something
bigger than life.
451
00:35:29,322 --> 00:35:32,020
And I said, "Yeah.
He's going to be in prison."
452
00:35:33,152 --> 00:35:33,935
You know?
453
00:35:34,109 --> 00:35:36,242
And she got really upset.
454
00:35:36,416 --> 00:35:39,332
"No, no, no. He's not going
to go to prison."
455
00:35:39,506 --> 00:35:41,203
I said, "Yes, he is.
He's going to jail."
456
00:35:41,377 --> 00:35:42,944
And I believed it.
457
00:35:43,118 --> 00:35:45,164
- I thought,
"This guy's a nutcase."
- Yeah.
458
00:35:45,338 --> 00:35:48,950
"He's capable of doing anything,
and it'll probably
land him in jail."
459
00:35:49,646 --> 00:35:52,649
What are your takes
on Jim and Tandy?
460
00:35:53,607 --> 00:35:58,655
I think she liked Jim
a good bit, but I think
he liked her a lot more.
461
00:35:58,829 --> 00:36:02,224
You know, because Tandy
just jerked people around, men.
462
00:36:02,398 --> 00:36:03,486
She just...
463
00:36:04,008 --> 00:36:05,184
That's what she did.
464
00:36:05,836 --> 00:36:07,360
Tandy was no fool.
465
00:36:07,534 --> 00:36:08,752
She was well-read.
466
00:36:09,971 --> 00:36:12,669
That was why Tandy, I think,
had such an effect on him.
467
00:36:12,843 --> 00:36:17,065
Because, you know,
he couldn't control her.
468
00:36:17,544 --> 00:36:21,287
- Yeah.
- Can you guys share your
memories of the first time?
469
00:36:21,461 --> 00:36:27,902
Like, where were you
or what was your reaction
when you first heard that Jim
470
00:36:28,076 --> 00:36:30,383
had gone on
and he was in The Doors.
471
00:36:30,557 --> 00:36:33,951
I wasn't surprised he got
famous, but I was surprised
he got famous as a singer.
472
00:36:34,691 --> 00:36:37,128
Because I saw nothing
that led that way.
473
00:36:37,303 --> 00:36:39,000
- Ever.
- He never sang in high school.
474
00:36:39,174 --> 00:36:40,436
- No.
- Apparently not.
475
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:42,786
- It was all literature.
- Yeah.
476
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,268
Well, he did give us a couple
lectures, though, about,
at least twice, I think,
477
00:36:46,442 --> 00:36:48,096
about he was going
to be famous someday.
478
00:36:48,270 --> 00:36:49,489
- Well...
- Oh, yeah.
479
00:36:49,663 --> 00:36:51,099
- But that's...
- Yeah, right, right.
480
00:36:51,273 --> 00:36:53,057
Didn't want to have
anything to do with us.
481
00:36:53,232 --> 00:36:55,234
He did. He did. I remember that.
482
00:36:55,408 --> 00:36:57,671
You have to figure out
whether you're going
to take him seriously
483
00:36:57,845 --> 00:37:00,630
when he says stuff like that,
or whether he's just
putting you on.
484
00:37:00,804 --> 00:37:02,893
- And I never knew.
- Yeah, yeah.
485
00:37:03,067 --> 00:37:05,113
I guess I had a reaction
somewhat like yours.
486
00:37:05,287 --> 00:37:07,637
You know, the guy was capable
of anything.
487
00:37:07,811 --> 00:37:09,291
- Music?
- Yeah.
488
00:37:09,465 --> 00:37:11,554
- Go figure.
- Yeah.
489
00:37:11,728 --> 00:37:16,385
But the thing that really
blows my mind is you guys,
apparently, you,
490
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,432
upon learning
of his alleged death,
491
00:37:19,606 --> 00:37:22,826
each of you, is that correct,
that each of you thought
right then and there
492
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,872
that, "Oh, no,
he may have faked it"?
493
00:37:25,046 --> 00:37:28,049
Because those rumors
didn't really start
to trickle down
494
00:37:28,223 --> 00:37:31,574
to the public until,
you know, a little later.
495
00:37:32,575 --> 00:37:34,316
So is that correct
that that was--?
496
00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:35,752
- Absolutely.
- That's correct.
497
00:37:35,926 --> 00:37:36,927
- Absolutely.
- Yeah.
498
00:37:37,101 --> 00:37:39,103
That's amazing.
499
00:37:39,278 --> 00:37:42,455
Because nobody else
in high school talked
about disappearing,
500
00:37:42,629 --> 00:37:44,195
taking on another life
and stuff.
501
00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:45,893
We were all like, huh?
502
00:37:46,154 --> 00:37:48,417
So and then to have him
actually do it,
503
00:37:48,591 --> 00:37:52,247
because if anybody
in the world could do this
or would do it...
504
00:37:52,421 --> 00:37:54,597
Well, he was smart enough
with that--
505
00:37:54,771 --> 00:37:57,252
Think about it
with that intelligence.
506
00:37:57,426 --> 00:38:01,952
Maybe he figured out a way so
that all those French police
documents looked bonafide.
507
00:38:02,953 --> 00:38:05,042
And, uh, he slipped away.
508
00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:10,004
At least once he talked about
how neat it would be to, like,
509
00:38:10,178 --> 00:38:13,703
disappear and become
a whole different person
and all this stuff.
510
00:38:13,877 --> 00:38:16,184
- Didn't he?
- That doesn't surprise me.
511
00:38:16,358 --> 00:38:21,189
Yeah, well, that's exactly
right, because I figured he'd...
I wasn't the only one.
512
00:38:21,363 --> 00:38:25,889
I figured he'd faked the whole
situation and he was gone
for a number of reasons.
513
00:38:26,063 --> 00:38:28,283
A lot of people felt that way.
514
00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:32,026
First of all, he'd just been
convicted in Florida
515
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,289
and he was facing
a six-month sentence
516
00:38:34,463 --> 00:38:37,336
and he was on appeals.
517
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:41,383
If that wasn't successful,
then he was in jail.
518
00:38:41,557 --> 00:38:44,995
But mainly, I think he didn't
like, I thought at the time,
519
00:38:45,169 --> 00:38:49,173
and I have absolutely nothing
to base this on other than my
recollection from high school,
520
00:38:49,348 --> 00:38:53,352
he didn't like his lifestyle
and he wanted to disappear
521
00:38:53,526 --> 00:38:55,571
and do something else.
522
00:38:55,745 --> 00:38:58,444
And he said stuff in high school
about doing that very thing.
523
00:38:58,618 --> 00:39:01,142
- He talked about
doing that very thing.
- Yes.
524
00:39:01,316 --> 00:39:03,318
Yes. Yes, he did.
525
00:39:03,492 --> 00:39:07,278
All I know is if anybody
in the world could have done it,
pulled it off,
526
00:39:07,453 --> 00:39:09,759
- I think it would have been him.
- Absolutely.
527
00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:13,720
It wouldn't surprise me today to
learn that he'd gone over there
to fake his death.
528
00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:16,592
Unfortunately for him,
in the intervening time,
529
00:39:16,766 --> 00:39:20,901
- he died before
he got to pull it off.
- Yeah.
530
00:39:21,423 --> 00:39:24,121
That wouldn't surprise me
at all, but I don't think
he's alive.
531
00:39:24,295 --> 00:39:25,775
This is when we need
Tandy around,
532
00:39:25,949 --> 00:39:27,951
because she might have
some insight.
533
00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:31,520
- She might.
- Did Tandy have
any role in this conflict?
534
00:39:31,694 --> 00:39:34,349
Tandy was always a...
She's like a ghost
in this whole thing.
535
00:39:34,871 --> 00:39:37,004
I couldn't figure out
how he died.
536
00:39:38,266 --> 00:39:41,748
He's supposedly in a bathtub,
right, with a smile on his face.
537
00:39:41,922 --> 00:39:44,968
But... of what?
538
00:39:46,013 --> 00:39:49,973
- How do you die when you're--
- I think he died of
a drug overdose.
539
00:39:50,147 --> 00:39:54,151
Well, you don't die of a heart
attack and look like that
when you're 27 years old.
540
00:39:54,325 --> 00:39:56,153
Well, does anybody know
how he looked?
541
00:39:57,416 --> 00:40:00,157
You know, there's
this shroud of secrecy.
542
00:40:00,331 --> 00:40:02,508
There was no autopsy, right?
543
00:40:02,682 --> 00:40:07,948
And so this has been analyzed
and analyzed and analyzed
forever, right?
544
00:40:08,122 --> 00:40:09,471
- No one knows.
- Yeah.
545
00:40:17,218 --> 00:40:22,441
As I left Jim's
Alexandria-era home, I reflected
upon what his friends said.
546
00:40:23,354 --> 00:40:28,229
Tandy Martin's name kept
appearing in regard to Jim's
high school years in Virginia.
547
00:40:28,403 --> 00:40:33,190
I'd reached out to speak
with her, but she agreed
to only appear via cameo.
548
00:40:36,455 --> 00:40:42,722
During my research, I found in
the 1980 Morrison biography,
No One Here Gets Out Alive,
549
00:40:42,896 --> 00:40:48,118
that Tandy was referenced
as someone to whom Jim hinted
at a dark secret.
550
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,907
Tandy and her mother
went so far as to take Jim
to talk with a youth minister
551
00:40:54,081 --> 00:40:57,127
at the nearby
Westminster Presbyterian Church.
552
00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:00,957
But it's unclear
if Jim and the minister
actually met.
553
00:41:05,396 --> 00:41:07,094
Further complicating matters,
554
00:41:07,268 --> 00:41:09,749
Linda Ashcroft,
one of Jim's lovers
555
00:41:09,923 --> 00:41:12,969
during the late 1960s
and early '70s,
556
00:41:13,143 --> 00:41:18,366
published a 1997 book
called Wild Child:
Life with Jim Morrison.
557
00:41:20,542 --> 00:41:24,154
The book alleged Jim had been
sexually abused by his father,
558
00:41:24,328 --> 00:41:28,028
apparently in part,
during his time in Alexandria.
559
00:41:30,117 --> 00:41:35,078
Although the molestation was
said to have begun years earlier
when Jim was a small boy,
560
00:41:37,211 --> 00:41:40,997
Incidentally, the first edition
of Wild Child
was quickly censored
561
00:41:41,171 --> 00:41:45,698
and copies destroyed
after Jim's parents sued
Ashcroft's publisher.
562
00:41:47,177 --> 00:41:51,660
The book later reappeared
with the chapter
in question expunged.
563
00:41:53,096 --> 00:41:54,445
Given all this,
564
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:56,360
my plan was
to locate and interview
565
00:41:56,535 --> 00:41:59,581
Linda Ashcroft
in an effort to learn more.
566
00:42:07,023 --> 00:42:10,200
Well, I like
Artificial Paradise.
567
00:42:12,768 --> 00:42:15,641
Uh, I like interviews because...
568
00:42:18,078 --> 00:42:21,385
Well, I like
Artificial Paradise.
569
00:42:23,866 --> 00:42:26,782
Uh, I like interviews because...
570
00:42:29,350 --> 00:42:32,396
- I like interviews because...
- Well, I like
Artificial Paradise.
571
00:42:51,285 --> 00:42:53,809
Back with Jim's
classmate, John Huetter,
572
00:42:53,983 --> 00:42:56,159
I asked which books
Jim would buy
573
00:42:56,333 --> 00:43:00,424
or permanently borrow
from bookstores or libraries.
574
00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:06,039
Like Céline, uh, French poets,
575
00:43:06,213 --> 00:43:10,739
Baudelaire maybe even,
is that Flowers of Evil? Yeah.
576
00:43:18,529 --> 00:43:22,272
Flowers of Evil, I just kind of
scanned that before
577
00:43:22,446 --> 00:43:25,319
and I'm getting ready
to read that again...
578
00:43:26,755 --> 00:43:28,670
...which is obviously
about, uh...
579
00:43:31,368 --> 00:43:32,413
opium.
580
00:43:34,023 --> 00:43:37,374
As Frank continued
to expound uponFlowers of Evil,
581
00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:41,944
he shocked me once again
with a turn
to a different subject,
582
00:43:42,118 --> 00:43:46,209
one near and dear to Jim,
his college sweetheart.
583
00:43:47,907 --> 00:43:50,997
And this time, Frank was
asking the questions.
584
00:43:51,867 --> 00:43:54,478
Not to pick the book up,
never pick the book up.
585
00:43:54,653 --> 00:43:57,830
I was concerned,
if you want me to bring it up,
586
00:43:58,004 --> 00:44:02,095
about his girlfriend
that he sent there from Florida.
587
00:44:02,791 --> 00:44:04,793
And what happened with that?
588
00:44:04,967 --> 00:44:08,014
I mean, why would he send
his girlfriend all the way
from Florida?
589
00:44:08,188 --> 00:44:11,713
And then, well, I guess she
couldn't put up with all the...
590
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,588
...you know,
everything he was doing.
591
00:44:17,763 --> 00:44:19,721
You're talking about
Mary Werbelow?
592
00:44:19,982 --> 00:44:21,549
- Yeah.
- Right.
593
00:44:21,723 --> 00:44:25,161
Yeah, I'm very interested
in what happened to her.
594
00:44:25,335 --> 00:44:27,903
And you said she kind
of went down the tubes.
595
00:44:28,077 --> 00:44:30,079
She's got a--
I mean, I met with her.
596
00:44:30,253 --> 00:44:33,387
She lives in a mobile home
facility in L.A.
597
00:44:33,561 --> 00:44:38,087
Was she-- Did she want to
talk about him at all?
598
00:44:38,261 --> 00:44:40,524
She did.
She talked at great length.
599
00:44:40,699 --> 00:44:44,050
We talked for like three and
a half, four hours that day.
It was incredible.
600
00:44:44,224 --> 00:44:47,270
And said she was gonna do
an interview, then she wasn't,
then she was,
601
00:44:47,444 --> 00:44:49,446
and she went back and forth
for quite a while.
602
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:51,492
What did you think of her
as a person?
603
00:44:51,666 --> 00:44:55,061
I thought she was wonderful,
but I also was, you know...
604
00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:56,845
She was a lot older.
605
00:44:57,019 --> 00:44:59,848
Broke my heart because she has,
and these are her words,
606
00:45:00,022 --> 00:45:03,896
she has multiple
chemical sensitivity disorder.
607
00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:08,683
So she can't-- So she can't,
you know, touch certain fabrics.
608
00:45:08,857 --> 00:45:12,078
Frank's concern for
Mary Werbelow amazed me.
609
00:45:12,252 --> 00:45:14,950
I felt he knew Mary
from the past.
610
00:45:15,124 --> 00:45:19,563
His feelings seemed genuine,
as if she were an old lover.
611
00:45:19,738 --> 00:45:25,308
This, more than anything else,
confirmed my instinct
that Frank was Jim.
612
00:45:25,961 --> 00:45:30,139
No one would care and want to
know so much about someone
they never met
613
00:45:30,313 --> 00:45:35,928
unless they had met
and knew each other intimately
long ago.
614
00:45:36,102 --> 00:45:39,105
Hi. It's Mary Werbelow.
615
00:46:06,219 --> 00:46:10,571
Mary was later, quite a few
years later, that he met
down at St. Petersburg.
616
00:46:10,745 --> 00:46:12,616
I think it was
at the junior college.
617
00:46:14,357 --> 00:46:18,187
And she came out to California,
and I guess they...
618
00:46:19,493 --> 00:46:22,017
went different directions
after a while.
619
00:46:22,191 --> 00:46:23,889
But they were tight.
620
00:46:24,498 --> 00:46:26,979
I knew that Jim was in Florida.
621
00:46:27,153 --> 00:46:29,459
I knew he was going
to school down there.
622
00:46:29,633 --> 00:46:33,289
And I knew he was doing what
he always said he wanted to do,
623
00:46:33,463 --> 00:46:36,205
was something to do
with movie making.
624
00:46:36,379 --> 00:46:39,121
And so, I mean, I knew
he had gone to do that.
625
00:46:40,819 --> 00:46:42,951
So what happened?
626
00:46:43,125 --> 00:46:47,347
How come my parents
or the state or the university
didn't look ahead?
627
00:46:48,087 --> 00:46:54,180
In September 1961,
Jim began classes at
St. Petersburg Junior College,
628
00:46:54,354 --> 00:46:57,052
to which he commuted
via city bus.
629
00:46:57,226 --> 00:47:01,317
For one year, he lived with
his conservative
paternal grandparents,
630
00:47:01,491 --> 00:47:04,712
Paul and Caroline Morrison,
in a small house
631
00:47:04,886 --> 00:47:09,238
at 314 North Osceola Avenue
in nearby Clearwater.
632
00:47:10,152 --> 00:47:14,330
While his bedroom
was stacked with books,
his grades were average.
633
00:47:15,070 --> 00:47:19,422
Shortly after he finished
the school year
in the summer of 1962,
634
00:47:19,596 --> 00:47:21,947
Jim first met Mary Werbelow
635
00:47:22,121 --> 00:47:25,211
at Pier 60 on Clearwater Beach.
636
00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:27,604
They instantly
became inseparable,
637
00:47:27,778 --> 00:47:31,304
but Mary's father later banned
Jim from the Werbelow home
638
00:47:31,478 --> 00:47:33,349
for reasons still unknown.
639
00:47:33,523 --> 00:47:35,743
Do you have any idea
why Mary's father
640
00:47:35,917 --> 00:47:39,225
allegedly banned Jim
from the Werbelow household?
641
00:47:40,966 --> 00:47:45,187
Well, probably because
he didn't want her dating him.
642
00:47:47,886 --> 00:47:51,541
He didn't think
he was her type, I'd say.
643
00:47:51,715 --> 00:47:53,979
Bad influence.
644
00:47:54,153 --> 00:47:57,634
When did you first meet
Jim Morrison and what was
your initial impression?
645
00:47:58,026 --> 00:48:00,637
I met him in the summer of 1963.
646
00:48:00,811 --> 00:48:02,901
I was teaching summer school
647
00:48:03,075 --> 00:48:06,730
and he took a course
in Medieval History
that I was teaching and...
648
00:48:09,603 --> 00:48:13,607
He was in the class
and he came to my office
one day.
649
00:48:14,434 --> 00:48:17,611
I had assigned,
as part of the coursework,
650
00:48:17,785 --> 00:48:21,876
three short papers on set topics
651
00:48:22,659 --> 00:48:28,839
and he came to say that
he just couldn't bear to write
on those topics.
652
00:48:29,014 --> 00:48:30,885
He didn't find them interesting.
653
00:48:31,059 --> 00:48:34,802
And he wanted to do
a different paper.
654
00:48:34,976 --> 00:48:42,549
And he explained to me that
he was very interested in
the heresy of the free spirits,
655
00:48:42,723 --> 00:48:45,944
which is a late medieval heresy.
656
00:48:46,118 --> 00:48:53,255
And he wanted to connect
that heresy to the paintings
of Hieronymus Bosch.
657
00:48:54,561 --> 00:48:57,564
And I thought, "Well,
that's interesting
and rather original."
658
00:48:57,738 --> 00:48:59,914
And I thought, "Well, why not?"
659
00:49:00,088 --> 00:49:02,961
So he wanted to write
one large research paper
instead of the three papers.
660
00:49:03,135 --> 00:49:05,093
So I said, "Okay."
661
00:49:05,267 --> 00:49:07,400
And then after that,
he'd come in and talk to me
about the paper.
662
00:49:07,574 --> 00:49:11,708
And I had to walk from my office
to another building
to the class.
663
00:49:11,882 --> 00:49:14,581
Sometimes he'd walk over
with me and we'd talk some.
664
00:49:14,755 --> 00:49:18,019
Jim was a student
at St. Pete Junior College,
665
00:49:18,193 --> 00:49:23,155
and Beaux Arts
was well-known in the area
666
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:26,897
as a center for the arts
and bohemian type activities,
667
00:49:27,637 --> 00:49:31,032
which Morrison was a big fan of.
668
00:49:31,206 --> 00:49:36,211
It was actually
on the off-limits list
for St. Pete Junior College
669
00:49:36,385 --> 00:49:38,083
from what I understand.
670
00:49:38,257 --> 00:49:41,216
But that was probably even more
of a draw for Jim to come here.
671
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:45,090
So it was in early fall of '61
672
00:49:45,264 --> 00:49:47,266
that Morrison came here
673
00:49:48,702 --> 00:49:52,401
to Beaux Arts Coffeehouse
and first met with Tom Reese.
674
00:49:52,575 --> 00:49:57,015
I was at Beaux Arts
art gallery in St. Pete.
675
00:49:57,189 --> 00:50:01,671
I frequently went there because
it was sort of an old-fashioned
'60s coffeehouse.
676
00:50:02,107 --> 00:50:05,980
And they had
an art film theater,
677
00:50:06,154 --> 00:50:08,287
a room for checkers
and chess,
678
00:50:08,461 --> 00:50:12,291
a place for folk singers
and poetry reading
and that sort of thing.
679
00:50:13,031 --> 00:50:15,250
And Tom Reese,
who was the owner of the place,
680
00:50:16,556 --> 00:50:18,384
met everybody
at the front door,
681
00:50:18,558 --> 00:50:21,909
announced all the events,
showed all the movies.
682
00:50:22,083 --> 00:50:23,302
So in terms of their--
683
00:50:23,476 --> 00:50:25,521
With all due respect
to both of them,
684
00:50:25,695 --> 00:50:28,394
do you know, did they have
an actual relationship
in that regard?
685
00:50:29,699 --> 00:50:31,353
Not that Tom would admit.
686
00:50:31,527 --> 00:50:33,921
Tom was always
very elusive about that.
687
00:50:34,095 --> 00:50:38,317
And so he never admitted
that to me,
688
00:50:38,491 --> 00:50:42,973
although I suspect
that that may have happened.
689
00:50:43,148 --> 00:50:44,801
Uh, Morrison was young.
690
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:49,806
Tom, at the time, probably
had coerced him somehow.
691
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:54,072
Possibly a willing partner too,
I don't know.
692
00:50:54,246 --> 00:50:59,077
But, you know, it probably
isn't out of the realm
of possibility.
693
00:51:00,121 --> 00:51:02,732
And Tom Reese came down
one day from the third floor,
694
00:51:02,906 --> 00:51:05,953
which is where everybody went
to get high ,
695
00:51:06,127 --> 00:51:10,697
and announced that
Jim Morrison would be
down in a minute
696
00:51:10,871 --> 00:51:12,916
to read some of his poetry.
697
00:51:13,091 --> 00:51:16,616
And he wanted everybody
to gather around
to hear the poetry reading.
698
00:51:17,138 --> 00:51:19,749
And a few minutes later,
about five minutes later,
699
00:51:19,923 --> 00:51:22,143
Jim kind of sleepily came down.
700
00:51:23,405 --> 00:51:26,713
His pupils were
very small and fixed.
701
00:51:27,714 --> 00:51:31,152
And he proceeded to read
some of his poetry
702
00:51:31,326 --> 00:51:34,024
in a very cool,
detached fashion,
703
00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:37,071
which I thought was
kind of interesting.
704
00:51:37,506 --> 00:51:40,596
And that lasted
about 15 minutes or so.
705
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:42,946
And then he went back
up to the third floor.
706
00:51:43,121 --> 00:51:44,513
Maybe to...
707
00:51:45,035 --> 00:51:48,082
Probably to have a smoke
or something else, but...
708
00:51:49,214 --> 00:51:52,086
I understood that mostly
he enjoyed heroin.
709
00:51:52,478 --> 00:51:53,957
- Heroin?
- Heroin, yes.
710
00:51:54,132 --> 00:51:55,568
- Really?
- Yes.
711
00:51:56,090 --> 00:51:58,745
Wow. So heroin--
Was heroin prevalent
712
00:51:58,919 --> 00:52:01,269
or easily available
in Clearwater at that time?
713
00:52:01,443 --> 00:52:02,792
Apparently it was.
714
00:52:02,966 --> 00:52:05,273
I knew several other people
who used it.
715
00:52:06,231 --> 00:52:11,366
He asked me if he could borrow
my car since Mary was there.
716
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:15,109
I was hesitant because
I knew he didn't handle
liquor well at all.
717
00:52:15,283 --> 00:52:18,286
But he said, "Look,
I'm not drinking.
I don't ever drink around Mary."
718
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:21,289
And I said, "Oh, okay then."
And so he did.
He borrowed my car.
719
00:52:21,463 --> 00:52:26,207
And the next morning
he came to my apartment
to return it to me.
720
00:52:26,773 --> 00:52:30,559
Following his year at
St. Petersburg Junior College,
721
00:52:30,733 --> 00:52:34,781
Jim transferred to Florida
State University in Tallahassee.
722
00:52:35,956 --> 00:52:38,741
Met Jim Morrison
when he was introduced to
723
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:43,790
several of my
soon-to-be roommates
at Florida State University.
724
00:52:45,052 --> 00:52:49,970
We all assembled in one place
to get ready to go over
to the house that we had rented.
725
00:52:51,319 --> 00:52:55,018
We had five guys
that I was aware of,
and we had needed a sixth.
726
00:52:55,193 --> 00:52:57,456
And all I knew was
Chris Kallivakos says,
727
00:52:57,630 --> 00:53:00,763
"This is the guy
I want to be our sixth man.
728
00:53:00,937 --> 00:53:04,593
His name is Jim Morrison,
and I knew him
at junior college."
729
00:53:05,203 --> 00:53:09,337
And from that moment on,
I knew Jim.
730
00:53:11,296 --> 00:53:13,689
I didn't see
a whole lot wrong with him.
731
00:53:13,863 --> 00:53:21,175
Outside of that, his antics
and his desire to get attention
was annoying.
732
00:53:21,784 --> 00:53:25,353
We knew in no time at all
that he was quite
the provocateur.
733
00:53:25,614 --> 00:53:27,790
He was a very intelligent guy.
734
00:53:28,269 --> 00:53:33,883
And he was going to be very
interesting, to say the least,
as a roommate.
735
00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:38,105
Well, I'll tell you one thing.
I caught him doing one day.
736
00:53:38,671 --> 00:53:39,976
I went into his room.
737
00:53:41,456 --> 00:53:42,892
I wasn't looking for him.
738
00:53:43,066 --> 00:53:46,200
I went into his room,
and he was naked,
739
00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:50,987
squatting down
over a mirror on the floor.
740
00:53:51,814 --> 00:53:53,425
And I said,
"Jim, what are you doing?"
741
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,254
He said, "I'm contemplating
my anus."
742
00:53:58,125 --> 00:53:59,605
I said, "Your what?"
743
00:53:59,953 --> 00:54:02,782
He said, "I am contemplating
my anus."
744
00:54:04,566 --> 00:54:07,787
And with that, you know,
I said, "Okay."
745
00:54:08,353 --> 00:54:10,050
"I'm leaving."
746
00:54:10,224 --> 00:54:14,576
We soon discovered, however,
that this talent for provocation
747
00:54:16,274 --> 00:54:19,581
was continuous, nonstop,
and intense.
748
00:54:19,755 --> 00:54:21,757
That year,
they were taking the census,
749
00:54:21,931 --> 00:54:24,499
and they came to that house,
wanted to know who lived
in that house,
750
00:54:24,673 --> 00:54:26,153
and they wanted to fill it
all out.
751
00:54:26,327 --> 00:54:28,547
Well, they were interviewing me
at the time,
752
00:54:28,721 --> 00:54:31,724
and I was telling them,
because I answered the door,
and I didn't know it,
753
00:54:31,898 --> 00:54:34,814
but Jim was behind me
in the living room
754
00:54:34,988 --> 00:54:37,120
doing a handstand
with no clothes on.
755
00:54:37,295 --> 00:54:41,386
His provocation of people
never appeared to be
756
00:54:42,256 --> 00:54:44,519
with a mean streak involved.
757
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:47,566
He was simply curious
about people and was interested
in how they might react.
758
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:51,396
You could find Jim sometimes on
a Tallahassee corner
759
00:54:52,571 --> 00:54:55,791
spewing his own poetry
whether there was anybody there
to listen or not.
760
00:54:55,965 --> 00:54:58,707
He would recite poetry and prose
761
00:54:59,491 --> 00:55:02,494
and anything else he wanted to.
762
00:55:02,668 --> 00:55:05,975
Sometimes he would
recite it out loud
763
00:55:06,149 --> 00:55:08,978
and, um, couldn't stop him.
764
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:13,853
He would just go on, and it
didn't matter what you said
or did, he wouldn't stop.
765
00:55:14,027 --> 00:55:16,334
Did Jim physically
have a notebook
766
00:55:16,508 --> 00:55:20,860
in which he would
record reactions
to his extreme actions?
767
00:55:21,991 --> 00:55:23,819
"Notebook" is an understatement.
768
00:55:23,993 --> 00:55:28,781
He, at any given time,
would have
10 to 12 notebooks going.
769
00:55:30,043 --> 00:55:33,133
He had notebooks with respect
to what he was reading,
770
00:55:33,307 --> 00:55:36,615
notebooks with respect
to poetry
that he was trying to write,
771
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:41,228
notebooks with respect
to the classes
that he was taking,
772
00:55:41,402 --> 00:55:45,711
and notebooks with respect to
the goings-on each day
773
00:55:45,885 --> 00:55:49,367
within the house
and within the school area.
774
00:55:49,541 --> 00:55:53,066
I have to tell you that
he was extremely bright.
775
00:55:54,241 --> 00:55:57,200
Probably had an IQ close to--
776
00:55:57,375 --> 00:56:01,466
I don't know, they say genius,
you have to be 160
to be a genius,
777
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,382
but my guess is
if he wasn't there,
he was getting close to it.
778
00:56:05,948 --> 00:56:08,168
The thing I liked
best about him
779
00:56:08,342 --> 00:56:14,261
was how rapidly he revealed
the depth of his intellectual
capabilities.
780
00:56:14,435 --> 00:56:17,569
It was clear that he was
one of the most
well-read individuals
781
00:56:17,743 --> 00:56:19,832
I've ever encountered
in my life.
782
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:25,011
Not only had he read
the masters at that age,
783
00:56:25,185 --> 00:56:28,754
but he was able to
quote from them frequently,
784
00:56:28,928 --> 00:56:30,843
understand them, explain them.
785
00:56:32,018 --> 00:56:35,238
He was a true intellectual,
a type of person I'd never
encountered before,
786
00:56:35,413 --> 00:56:38,503
and that's what I liked
about him the most.
787
00:56:39,068 --> 00:56:43,638
He was an A student,
English major,
had a phenomenal memory.
788
00:56:43,812 --> 00:56:47,773
There was nothing he couldn't
memorize first time out.
If it went in, it stayed in.
789
00:56:47,947 --> 00:56:51,777
While at Florida State,
Jim became a theater arts major
790
00:56:51,951 --> 00:56:56,259
and performed in his
one and only stage play,
The Dumb Waiter.
791
00:56:56,434 --> 00:57:00,612
The local FSU student newspaper
printed a review of the play
792
00:57:00,786 --> 00:57:06,356
and even referred to Jim
by his stage name,
Stanislaus Boleslawski,
793
00:57:06,531 --> 00:57:09,795
a hybrid of
Konstantin Stanislawski,
794
00:57:09,969 --> 00:57:12,580
the Russian creator
of method acting,
795
00:57:12,754 --> 00:57:16,976
and Richard Boleslawski,
the Polish film director.
796
00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:22,024
For Jim,
hiding behind pseudonyms
would become a recurring theme.
797
00:57:27,813 --> 00:57:30,032
Jim would interact
with girls that came in
798
00:57:30,206 --> 00:57:33,558
as a result of other people's
invitations and so forth,
799
00:57:33,732 --> 00:57:38,345
but he never did much
in the way of generating
any kind of relationships.
800
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:42,392
And if you ask him about that,
it was always,
"I'm being true to Mary.
801
00:57:42,567 --> 00:57:44,699
I don't date other girls,"
and so forth.
802
00:57:45,395 --> 00:57:48,442
I don't think Jim
was dating anybody, really,
at Florida State.
803
00:57:49,356 --> 00:57:52,228
Werbelow was it,
was his girlfriend.
She would come up.
804
00:57:53,316 --> 00:57:56,450
But he didn't date.
He didn't date anybody.
805
00:57:57,364 --> 00:58:02,587
And his relationship
with Mary Werbelow
was very interesting
806
00:58:04,371 --> 00:58:08,418
because it seemed like
he did not find her
in any way threatening,
807
00:58:08,593 --> 00:58:11,639
that she was pure
from his point of view.
808
00:58:14,033 --> 00:58:16,470
Pure girl, so to speak,
809
00:58:16,644 --> 00:58:20,692
that he had no reason
to be intimidated by
or feared or anything else.
810
00:58:20,866 --> 00:58:25,392
So they developed
a real loving relationship
811
00:58:26,654 --> 00:58:28,264
that appeared
812
00:58:29,570 --> 00:58:32,791
to depend on her willingness
to keep him totally at ease
813
00:58:32,965 --> 00:58:34,488
and feel non-threatened.
814
00:58:35,184 --> 00:58:36,708
So given all that,
815
00:58:38,231 --> 00:58:40,625
and it's obviously speculation,
but I'm wondering,
816
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:42,757
as you were a friend of his,
817
00:58:43,497 --> 00:58:47,849
not long after he told
those two guys
that he wanted to disappear,
818
00:58:48,807 --> 00:58:51,070
do you feel that's something
that he was capable of,
819
00:58:51,244 --> 00:58:52,375
of faking his actual death?
820
00:58:52,550 --> 00:58:54,029
Oh, yes, I think he could.
821
00:58:54,203 --> 00:58:56,728
But the only reason
that makes me...
822
00:58:59,644 --> 00:59:01,776
hesitate to think that
is because of Mary.
823
00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:04,474
I really do believe
that if he were still alive,
824
00:59:04,649 --> 00:59:08,087
he'd have gotten back with Mary.
825
00:59:18,619 --> 00:59:23,885
I was getting a bit dizzy
from all the coincidences,
so I pulled over for a break.
826
00:59:24,059 --> 00:59:28,760
I called Cheryl, who'd been
doing some more digging for me,
to hear what she had found.
827
00:59:28,934 --> 00:59:32,241
Hey Jeff, so I did
the research you asked me to do
828
00:59:32,415 --> 00:59:34,722
regarding Jim's
Social Security number,
829
00:59:34,896 --> 00:59:38,117
and I think you're gonna
be surprised by what I found.
830
00:59:38,291 --> 00:59:40,685
- What is it?
- Well, Jim Morrison's
831
00:59:40,859 --> 00:59:43,688
Social Security number,
apparently is still active.
832
00:59:43,862 --> 00:59:46,299
- How?
- Isn't that crazy?
833
00:59:46,473 --> 00:59:48,954
- Have you ever seen
anything like this before?
- No, never.
834
00:59:49,128 --> 00:59:52,784
I know it could take a while
for government agencies
to update their systems,
835
00:59:52,958 --> 00:59:54,655
but that was 50 years ago.
836
00:59:54,829 --> 00:59:57,092
- And there's more.
- Okay.
837
00:59:57,266 --> 01:00:03,098
Jim's Social has been current
as of 2014 in Rochester,
New York,
838
01:00:03,272 --> 01:00:06,188
which is less than an hour
from where you are now.
839
01:00:06,362 --> 01:00:07,929
Holy shit.
840
01:00:08,103 --> 01:00:09,627
- But there's even more.
- Yeah?
841
01:00:09,801 --> 01:00:12,107
That guy, Frank,
you were interviewing,
842
01:00:12,281 --> 01:00:15,545
according to the database,
he may have
two Social Security numbers.
843
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,547
- Two?
- I'll send it to you.
844
01:00:17,722 --> 01:00:20,202
- Seriously?
- I don't know how to explain it.
845
01:00:20,376 --> 01:00:22,291
You could really
be onto something.
846
01:00:24,032 --> 01:00:26,252
After hanging up with Cheryl,
847
01:00:26,426 --> 01:00:30,430
my mind was spinning
about Jim Morrison's
Social Security number
848
01:00:30,604 --> 01:00:32,562
still being active,
849
01:00:32,737 --> 01:00:36,610
and Frank having two
Social Security numbers.
850
01:00:36,784 --> 01:00:42,877
But that paled in comparison
to my shock after Cheryl
sent me the actual numbers.
851
01:00:43,704 --> 01:00:50,580
Frank's second
Social Security number began
with the numeric sequence 127.
852
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:54,541
This dared me to call it
yet another coincidence.
853
01:00:55,281 --> 01:00:58,676
A 1989 issue
of the Chicago Tribune
854
01:00:58,850 --> 01:01:02,897
reported that labeled on
Pam Corson's strong box
855
01:01:03,071 --> 01:01:07,162
was the cipher
"127 fascination."
856
01:01:07,336 --> 01:01:09,948
That code
had never been cracked.
857
01:01:10,122 --> 01:01:14,561
My inner Sherlock
was freaking out.
858
01:01:26,486 --> 01:01:32,448
♪ Our electric friends
Just pretend ♪
859
01:01:32,622 --> 01:01:37,627
♪ Our electric friends
Just pre-- ♪
860
01:01:50,945 --> 01:01:56,734
♪ Tell me again
why, where, when ♪
861
01:01:56,908 --> 01:02:02,870
♪ Should I delete
Or hit send? ♪
862
01:02:03,044 --> 01:02:08,746
♪ Element bend
See how you trend ♪
863
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,752
♪ Shall we deny or unfriend? ♪
864
01:02:17,667 --> 01:02:23,456
♪ Tell me again
why, where, when ♪
865
01:02:23,630 --> 01:02:29,418
♪ Should I delete
Or hit send? ♪
866
01:02:29,592 --> 01:02:35,424
♪ Goodbye last band
See how you trend ♪
867
01:02:35,598 --> 01:02:41,517
♪ Shall we deny or unfriend? ♪
77089
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