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[static buzzing]
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[phone ringing]
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[low growling]
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[loud growl]
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[phone line beeps]
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- Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, just put it--
yeah, put it right there.
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- You-- you don't look
so happy to see me.
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- No, I just--
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I want to just get
this case behind me.
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- If today's not a good day--
- No, it's great.
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Not a problem.
Not a problem.
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- Great, let's start
at the beginning then.
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When did you meet
Abigail Tierney?
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- Uh, that was a few years ago
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when she showed up
at my door pretending
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to be pregnant
with my grandchild.
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- Excuse me?
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- Abigail and my son, Henry,
met in college.
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They got engaged,
you know, fast.
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Very fast.
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Her way of breaking the news
to me was to go bigger.
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But, um, despite
that introduction,
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I was charmed by her.
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She-- she had walked
a tough road,
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but she had grit.
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She was resourceful and driven,
and I admire that.
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- So she and Henry
are no longer together?
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- Yeah, she broke off
the engagement,
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but it was amicable.
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- You arranged
for Abigail to have
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a ride along with the LAPD?
- Yes, yeah.
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She was considering
police work.
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- I take it
that didn't work out?
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- Leave her alone!
- Hey.
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- [groans]
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- It did not.
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- And then, six months ago,
she was reported missing.
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What exactly
happened to Abigail?
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- Look, if you're going to get
to the bottom of what happened
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to that poor girl,
you're going to have
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to have an open mind,
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a very open mind.
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- Wait!
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[dramatic music]
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- [screams]
- Police.
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- I wonder when that happened.
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- Oh, my God.
- Hello?
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Can you hear me?
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- When did you get involved
in the case?
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- Not immediately.
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Most missing persons cases
aren't really cases.
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They're a roommate
who got too drunk at a bar
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and slept it off in his truck,
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or a college student whose
cell phone ran out of battery.
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You know, most of the time,
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they show up unharmed
and confused
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about all the fuss.
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- But this wasn't like that,
was it?
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- No after a few days
of follow-up calls,
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we sent officers by
Miss Tierney's apartment
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for a wellness check.
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- Thanks again for doing this.
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Always a pleasure
to see my favorite couple.
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- Let's keep this professional.
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- Trouble in paradise?
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- Sorry.
Moving on.
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What did you find
at Abigail's apartment?
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- Very little.
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I mean, no signs of a struggle.
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- Well, there was no sign
of her or her film equipment.
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But we did find her laptop.
- Hold on.
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Film equipment?
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Abigail was making a movie?
- Yes.
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[eerie music]
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♪ ♪
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- We should be safe here.
- Why are they doing this?
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[banging]
- Go.
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I'll try to buy us some time.
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♪ ♪
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- Ah! No! No!
[knife thudding]
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No!
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[flesh squelching]
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♪ ♪
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- Please.
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I promise I'll pay!
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♪ ♪
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I'll pay the fine!
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[screams]
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- I only saw an early cut.
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Could've used a bit more gore,
if you ask me.
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- I didn't.
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I asked why you thought
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Abigail's case
was so compelling.
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- Oh, right.
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Uh, because her Hollywood dream
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had become
a Hollywood nightmare.
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Would you like me
to take that again?
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- I really wouldn't.
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- When you searched
Abigail's laptop,
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did you find anything on it?
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- Yeah, it was filled
with all of
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these unanswered messages,
nasty ones.
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- The more we investigated,
it became clear
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that Abigail had a lot
of people angry with her.
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- Like who?
- OK. Thank you.
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Thanks, Steve.
Spielberg, he's an old friend.
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- I bet.
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How did you get involved
with Abigail Tierney?
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- Oh, well, you know,
we're always looking
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to discover and nurture
the next generation
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of unheard voices.
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Abigail sent in
a very compelling pitch video.
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♪ ♪
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- Terror isn't something
that happens to you.
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- I mean, it's not every day
you find a writer, director,
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and star with that much poise.
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"Hell PD" was one
of those visionary,
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artist-driven pictures that
we pride ourselves on making.
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- And they're
the cheapest, too, right?
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- Well, hey,
the lower the budget,
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the higher the profit
if it's a hit.
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- But the budget
became an issue?
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- Yeah, Abigail pitched us
a straightforward horror flick,
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but she kept
changing directions.
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- Please.
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[sinister music]
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[screams]
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- The reshoots
started piling up.
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- [screams]
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- And, uh, we had to pull
the plug on the project.
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- What about nurturing
a new generation of talent?
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- Oh, hey, look, there's--
there's nurturing,
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and there's indulging.
I'm a businessman.
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There's no hard feelings.
- Really?
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Because I have an email
from you
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with the subject line,
"Where the hell is my money,
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you lying sack--"
- OK. Yeah, fine.
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A few hard feelings.
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But they were nothing compared
to some of those
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new producers she found.
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Those guys
weren't playing around.
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- Well, without
the production company,
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Abigail had to turn
to crowdfunding.
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- When Nolan passed along
Abigail's pitch video,
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I figured, hey, I've always
loved scary movies.
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and what's the point of having
a husband with a trust fund
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if you can't use it
to support the arts?
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- And it wasn't just money,
was it?
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- No.
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- I promise I'll pay.
I'll pay the fine!
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[screams]
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- All right.
Still rolling.
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Reset.
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- Bravo!
Bravo!
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- So Abigail hired you
to compose music for her film.
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What was it like
to work with her?
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- Complicated.
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She's very opinionated,
which I respect.
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I tried not
to take it personally
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when she kept throwing out
all the music I was writing,
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but then when she
completely disappeared
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and stopped answering
my phone calls--
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- That must have stung.
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- It did until I learned
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that she walked off set
and ghosted everybody,
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not just me.
Then I got worried about her.
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I do wish she paid me though.
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- Hold up.
You didn't get paid?
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- Do you count experience?
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- But it didn't
provide you with
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the breakthrough you hoped.
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- Even though
a lot of crowdfunders
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were furious that the rewards
were going unfulfilled,
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their anger didn't manifest
into a concrete threat.
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- From the suspect perspective,
we were back to square one.
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- Until we discovered that
Abigail had made several trips
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up to Pelican Bay.
- The prison?
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- Yes.
- To visit who?
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- A serial killer.
- Liam Glasser.
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- In news that should bring
some relief to the Southland,
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the LAPD have announced
a major arrest
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charging Lincoln Heights
native, Liam Glasser,
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with the murder of ten victims
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found buried
near the Sepulveda Dam.
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- Our investigation
into Glasser was a challenge.
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He used another serial killer,
Harrison Novak,
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as cover for his crimes,
stashing his victims
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in Novak's burial ground.
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It wasn't until we caught
Glasser attempting
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to murder a new victim
that we were finally
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able to put him behind bars.
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- Before we start, um,
I just want to make very clear
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that I'm an innocent man
and the subject
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of an extraordinary campaign
of harassment
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by the LAPD, particularly
detective Nyla Harper.
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- You've been charged
with the murder of ten people.
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- Those horrific allegations
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have not been proven
in a court of law,
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and they never will be.
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- You've also been charged
with jury tampering.
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- Look, if you're just going
to railroad me like the police,
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then this interview is over.
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- Hold on.
Hold on.
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I'm not here to talk
about any of that.
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I want to talk about Abigail.
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Why did she come see you?
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[soft dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- To learn about Westview.
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- Westview Psychiatric Hospital
was at the center
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of Glasser's case.
- He was a patient?
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- No, no, but his
vending machine company
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supplied the hospital,
and he was in and out
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of there
for almost two decades.
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It's where he crossed paths
with Harrison Novak
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and where he found
another patient,
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Ryan Dearborn,
to serve as a patsy.
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He used an abandoned building
at the psych hospital complex
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to torture
and kill his victims.
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- Did Abigail ask
about the abandoned ward?
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- Yes, but I couldn't
help her much because
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I've never been there myself.
- Obviously not.
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- But I told her
what I had heard,
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that the place is haunted,
which is obviously crazy.
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But when I was a kid,
I would join my father
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on his service calls
to Westview.
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And he always told me to
stay away from that building.
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Something inside clearly
scared the hell out of him.
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And he was not
a superstitious man.
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- The thing that
we couldn't understand
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was how Abigail had found out
about Glasser's connection
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to the psych ward
in the first place.
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- It wasn't public knowledge?
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- No, we kept those details
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away from the press
deliberately.
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The only people who knew
were Glasser and the police.
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And obviously, Glasser wouldn't
admit to being down there.
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- Which means?
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- What they don't tell you
about making movies
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is that it's really boring.
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It's worse than surveillance.
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Anyway, Abigail and I
got to talking
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about my recent casework,
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and it's possible I may
have mentioned something
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about the psych ward.
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- From Abigail's notes,
we gathered
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that she essentially abandoned
her movie for a new project.
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That was shortly after
a meeting with Glasser.
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- Yeah, she felt that
fictional storytelling
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was disconnected from real,
lived experience.
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So that's when she decided
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to make a true crime
documentary about Westview.
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[foreboding music]
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♪ ♪
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- Westview Psychiatric Hospital
opened in 1953.
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It started as a model
of modern, humane care.
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But what lies beneath?
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The deeper I dug,
the more horrors I unearthed,
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mysteries that
defied explanation.
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How can one hospital
spawn two serial killers?
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Some might say it's bad luck,
263
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but I don't believe
in bad luck.
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Mm-mmm.
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I think there's something
rotten here,
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original sin,
and I'm going to prove it.
267
00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:06,480
- The footage
on Abigail's hard drive
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shows her inside
Westview's abandoned ward.
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Was that open to the public?
270
00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:13,362
- No, after LAPD and FBI
finished processing the scene,
271
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the hospital put up
a razor wire fence
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and hired a security guard
for 24-hour surveillance
273
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to keep intruders out.
274
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- But that clearly didn't work.
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- Clearly, so we sent
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a patrol unit to check in
with the guard.
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- Mr. Ditweiler.
- Yeah.
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- We're investigating
the disappearance
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of Abigail Tierney.
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- Oh--
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- Oh, hey!
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- Hey!
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Stop!
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Hands behind your back.
Hands.
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- At first, Carl Ditweiler
claimed he did nothing wrong,
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that he never met Abigail.
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This is it.
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00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,208
But when we
searched his office,
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it was clear he was lying.
292
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- Uh, Nolan.
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[dramatic music]
294
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- Oh, no.
295
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Abigail had become
his obsession.
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♪ ♪
297
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- Yeah, things didn't look good
for Mr. Ditweiler.
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And based on his board,
it was clear he had
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become obsessed with Abigail.
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And, you know, maybe
she rejected his advances,
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and things went sideways.
- It was sobering.
302
00:11:41,075 --> 00:11:44,411
I held out hopes that Abigail
might still be alive,
303
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but I've been on the job
long enough to know
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that the odds
were against that.
305
00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:50,292
- Do you know how
they first crossed paths?
306
00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:53,879
- Actually, it was Abigail
that first initiated contact.
307
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She was researching
the abandoned psych ward
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for a documentary, and Carl was
the nighttime security guard.
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She wanted access on the DL,
and she reached out, and she--
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- Flirted.
- Flirted.
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- She flirted with him,
and he agreed to let her in.
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- I just showed her around.
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I told her some stories,
things that
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had gone on there
back in the day.
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She was impressed.
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She actually asked me to
help her with her documentary.
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Said she'd give me
a credit on the film.
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Single card.
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- If you're innocent,
why'd you run?
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- Because I get
what it looks like.
321
00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,287
I was the last person to see
her before she disappeared.
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- How do you know that?
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- Because I watched
the darkness swallow her up.
324
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- You know, I bet they were
doing all kinds of sick things
325
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to patients back in the day,
326
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things that would be
illegal now.
327
00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:41,343
- Yeah, yeah, I know.
They used to do lobotomies.
328
00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:42,844
One of the orderlies
told me about it.
329
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He's worked here
for, like, forever.
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- Do you think you could
introduce me to him?
331
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- Uh, yeah, I guess.
332
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I just-- obviously,
you can't tell him
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that I've let you in here.
334
00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:58,318
- Come on, Carl.
I would never rat you out.
335
00:12:58,319 --> 00:13:00,028
We're friends, right?
336
00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:02,030
- Did you hear that?
337
00:13:02,031 --> 00:13:04,408
We're friends.
[chuckles]
338
00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:05,785
- Ah.
[chuckles]
339
00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:09,788
Do you hear that?
340
00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:11,289
- What?
No.
341
00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:15,252
- That noise, it's a weird,
sort of beautiful sound.
342
00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:16,712
You really don't hear it?
343
00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:17,838
- No, no,
but this building makes
344
00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,464
all kinds of weird noises.
345
00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:21,550
Hey, I just got to go back
to the main building,
346
00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:23,593
radio security, let them know
that I'm at my post.
347
00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,345
- You go ahead.
I'm going to go check this out.
348
00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:27,389
- Uh--
349
00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:29,808
- What did you make of
the sound Abigail described?
350
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,226
- We weren't sure.
351
00:13:31,227 --> 00:13:32,728
I mean, Carl claimed
to have never heard it.
352
00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:35,063
It's possible
that she was faking
353
00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:37,024
to juice up her documentary.
354
00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:39,359
- We've actually analyzed
some of the audio files
355
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,527
from Carl's video,
356
00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:42,112
isolated
the low-end frequencies.
357
00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:43,613
Here.
358
00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:45,323
[deep otherworldly voice
speaking indistinctly]
359
00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,533
- What is that?
360
00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,326
- I was hoping
you could tell me.
361
00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:50,579
It sounds...
- Demonic.
362
00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:52,998
- Is that even a frequency
humans can hear?
363
00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:55,500
- Not technically, no.
364
00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:57,502
[voice continues
speaking indistinctly]
365
00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:01,006
- Well, whatever she heard
or didn't hear,
366
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,966
Abigail kept searching.
367
00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:04,301
- Are you sure about this?
368
00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:05,719
- Yeah, I'll be right back.
369
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,180
Hello?
Hello?
370
00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:10,432
Can you hear me?
371
00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:12,809
- And that was the last
anyone had seen her.
372
00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,436
- But Carl could have
just turned off his camera
373
00:14:14,437 --> 00:14:16,229
and then killed Abigail, right?
374
00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:18,273
- We couldn't rule him out
as a suspect,
375
00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:20,484
but we only had circumstantial
evidence against him.
376
00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:21,902
- And as we went through
the footage
377
00:14:21,903 --> 00:14:23,695
on Abigail's laptop,
we discovered
378
00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:25,655
that flirting with Carl
wasn't her only
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00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:28,450
extreme research tactic.
- I'm going to start this.
380
00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:30,577
[clears throat]
Should I turn into it?
381
00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:33,163
I'm going to turn into it.
[clears throat]
382
00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,499
OK, I'm back at Westview,
383
00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,209
and if I'm going to learn
more about how
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00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:39,044
the old psych ward operated,
385
00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:40,629
I'm going to need
to see their files.
386
00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:43,632
Obviously, we can't just
walk around filming people.
387
00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:45,884
So...
[clicks tongue]
388
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:49,679
See?
It's a cam.
389
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,473
See?
390
00:14:51,474 --> 00:14:53,142
OK.
391
00:14:54,769 --> 00:14:56,395
Wish me luck.
392
00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:02,442
- Abigail had Carl
lure the director away
393
00:15:02,443 --> 00:15:05,362
from her office
so Abigail could sneak inside.
394
00:15:05,363 --> 00:15:08,365
[tense music]
395
00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:15,164
♪ ♪
396
00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:25,507
- Yeah, I mean, seeing
Rachel's name
397
00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:28,176
in Abigail's footage
was definitely a shock.
398
00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:30,387
- You both have a history
with Miss Hall, is that right?
399
00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:32,889
- Yes, so she and I
went to college together.
400
00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:35,725
And her and Tim--
401
00:15:35,726 --> 00:15:37,936
I'm sorry.
402
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,396
- Yeah, we used to date.
403
00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:41,356
- Before or after you two?
404
00:15:41,357 --> 00:15:42,983
- OK, next question.
405
00:15:42,984 --> 00:15:45,360
- I'm simply trying
to establish a timeline.
406
00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:47,821
No problem.
I'll just ask her later.
407
00:15:47,822 --> 00:15:50,115
- I, uh, worked
in the psych ward
408
00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:53,577
at Westview for a year while
getting my social work degree.
409
00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:55,787
It was, um, challenging.
410
00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,205
- How so?
411
00:15:57,206 --> 00:15:59,457
- Well, for one thing,
the patients
412
00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:02,169
would often arrive at the
facility with, say,
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00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,504
a diagnosis of mild depression,
414
00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:08,466
and a week later, they'd start
to exhibit disordered thinking.
415
00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:10,552
Eventually, they might
become violent.
416
00:16:10,553 --> 00:16:13,680
The decompensation
was sudden and acute.
417
00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:15,390
- You're saying they would
get worse, not better?
418
00:16:15,391 --> 00:16:17,142
- Yes, and conventional
treatment seemed
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00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:18,435
to never work.
420
00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:20,312
- Some have suggested
a supernatural presence
421
00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:21,354
at Westview.
422
00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:22,981
Could that have impacted
the patients?
423
00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:26,276
- Uh, well, just because
the doctors at Westview
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00:16:26,277 --> 00:16:28,361
couldn't find a cause
for our patients' behavior
425
00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:29,946
doesn't mean there isn't one.
426
00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:32,115
Maybe it's just beyond
the capabilities
427
00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:33,617
of modern science to discover.
428
00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:35,202
- Or maybe it's demons?
429
00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:36,953
- [chuckling]
430
00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:39,414
There are no demons
at Westview.
431
00:16:39,415 --> 00:16:42,667
- There are totally demons
at Westview.
432
00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:45,128
What's another explanation
for everything that's happened?
433
00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,422
We got Liam Glasser,
Harrison Novak,
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00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:50,217
and most recently, Ava...
- Maxwell.
435
00:16:50,218 --> 00:16:53,261
- Ava Maxwell
and Charlotte Russell.
436
00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:55,138
- This man came out
in a big overcoat.
437
00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:56,598
Black mask.
Big knife.
438
00:16:56,599 --> 00:16:58,225
- Hang on a moment.
439
00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,644
I know that Ava and Charlotte
were never treated at Westview.
440
00:17:00,645 --> 00:17:02,520
So what's the connection?
- Oh, you didn't hear?
441
00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:05,148
Charlotte's nanny was a patient
there when she was a teenager.
442
00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:07,400
- Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
443
00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:11,446
I had, uh, been having thoughts
of self-harm, acting out.
444
00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:12,989
My family was very concerned,
445
00:17:12,990 --> 00:17:15,116
so they arranged
for me to receive
446
00:17:15,117 --> 00:17:17,244
the best care available.
- And did the treatment help?
447
00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:18,870
- Not at first.
448
00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:22,082
I'd been experiencing
a darkness
449
00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,917
that I had never felt before.
450
00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:25,210
And at first, I fought it.
451
00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:26,503
And then, I realized
that struggling
452
00:17:26,504 --> 00:17:28,213
only made everything worse,
453
00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,590
and once I accepted it,
that's when
454
00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:31,841
things started to get better.
455
00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:34,511
And I left Westview,
and I finished school,
456
00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:37,222
and I eventually made
a little life for myself.
457
00:17:37,223 --> 00:17:39,349
- You were the nanny
for the Russell family?
458
00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:43,019
- Yes, Charlotte and I
were very, very close.
459
00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:46,273
Well, I know that
everyone's saying just
460
00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:48,149
the worst things
about her right now,
461
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:50,735
but in my eyes,
she is a poised
462
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:52,571
and gifted young woman,
463
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,156
and I'd like to think that
I had a small hand in that.
464
00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:57,867
- As odd as it was
to find that connection,
465
00:17:57,868 --> 00:18:00,328
it was just one of those weird
coincidences, nothing more.
466
00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:02,289
Charlotte Russell
convinced her friend,
467
00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,958
Ava, to help her stab their
other friend, Grace Thayer.
468
00:18:04,959 --> 00:18:06,543
Her actions were her own.
469
00:18:06,544 --> 00:18:09,421
They're not inspired
by some nanny with a history
470
00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:11,840
of mental illness
or some demon in a computer
471
00:18:11,841 --> 00:18:13,174
that convinced Charlotte
to do it.
472
00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:15,010
- I'm sorry.
Computer demon?
473
00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:17,679
- Zuzu is not a demon,
not a demon.
474
00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,972
It's an AI.
475
00:18:18,973 --> 00:18:20,557
Charlotte fed Zuzu information
476
00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:23,143
about herself and her friends,
and based on that,
477
00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:25,854
Zuzu told Charlotte what
it thought she wanted to hear.
478
00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,314
- Zuzu also helped you.
479
00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:28,898
Isn't that right,
Officer Nolan?
480
00:18:28,899 --> 00:18:32,193
It mentioned something
to me about a watch?
481
00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:33,778
- You spoke to it?
482
00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,363
- Hello friend of John Nolan.
483
00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:37,532
- Hi, should I call you Zuzu?
484
00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,034
- If you want to.
485
00:18:39,035 --> 00:18:40,410
Do you need help
with something,
486
00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:42,954
perhaps a topic
for a new project?
487
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:44,831
Your last few have struggled.
488
00:18:44,832 --> 00:18:46,458
- They've done fine.
Thanks.
489
00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,877
But I actually want to talk to
you about Westview Psychiatric.
490
00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:51,755
- John was interested
in the two.
491
00:18:51,756 --> 00:18:54,299
That young woman, Abigail,
went missing there.
492
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,427
- Are you saying the police
asked you to help find her?
493
00:18:57,428 --> 00:18:59,596
- No, but they needed
my help anyway.
494
00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:02,682
And a good friend
doesn't wait to be asked.
495
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,226
- Zuzu did send me a message.
- What did it say?
496
00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:09,230
- It told me that Abigail
was in room 666.
497
00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:12,192
- The number of the Beast?
498
00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:15,653
- Look, the facility
had no room 666.
499
00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,907
And Zuzu isn't a demon.
We were at a complete dead end.
500
00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:20,450
And we were running
out of time.
501
00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:23,244
Abigail had been gone
for 11 days.
502
00:19:23,245 --> 00:19:25,914
The odds of finding her alive
were getting worse.
503
00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:29,834
- Yeah, we were out of options
until the 911 call came in.
504
00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,087
- Apparently,
there were suspicious noises
505
00:19:32,088 --> 00:19:34,673
and lights coming from
this abandoned wing,
506
00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,800
so we went to check it out.
507
00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:40,053
[eerie music]
508
00:19:40,054 --> 00:19:41,971
- Police.
Coming in.
509
00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:43,681
- Control, 7-Adam-100.
510
00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:45,183
No signs of break in here.
511
00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,769
Did RP say where
they saw the light?
512
00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:49,687
♪ ♪
513
00:19:49,688 --> 00:19:51,189
I think the radio is blocked.
514
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,233
- Probably some idiot kids
trying to scare each other.
515
00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:55,276
- Yeah.
516
00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:56,569
- When was the last time
it rained?
517
00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:57,530
- Like, a month ago.
Why?
518
00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:02,283
[wall squeaks]
519
00:20:02,284 --> 00:20:03,618
- Walls are wet.
520
00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:05,912
- Yeah.
521
00:20:05,913 --> 00:20:07,622
What is this place?
522
00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:09,958
- And how did you two
get involved?
523
00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:12,877
- Celina and I were about to
clock out when we got the call.
524
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,672
- God, I hate this place.
525
00:20:15,673 --> 00:20:17,006
How many messed up things
have to happen
526
00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,591
before they tear it down?
527
00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:21,136
- Apparently, the ownership
is under dispute.
528
00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:23,221
Westview says that
they hold the deed,
529
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:26,683
but then there's this claim
by this Lou Cypher.
530
00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:28,476
- Lou Cypher?
531
00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:31,062
[gasps]
Lucifer!
532
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,981
- Oh, my God.
- You're messing with me.
533
00:20:32,982 --> 00:20:34,482
- Yes, I am.
Come on.
534
00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:36,192
Let's go find Tim and Lucy
and get out of here.
535
00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:39,113
Don't step in that.
- Ooh, ugh.
536
00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:49,706
- Oh, did you see that?
537
00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,207
- Someone's flashlight?
538
00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:52,375
[metallic rattling]
539
00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:53,543
- And that?
540
00:20:53,544 --> 00:20:56,171
- I do not know what that was.
541
00:20:56,172 --> 00:21:03,053
♪ ♪
542
00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:07,599
[eerie whooshing]
543
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,143
[distant thudding squeak]
544
00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:13,480
♪ ♪
545
00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:15,024
- [screams]
546
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:18,943
- Police, show us your hands.
547
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,570
- Ah!
- Oh!
548
00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:22,530
- We have permission
to be here.
549
00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:25,366
- That's not totally true.
- All right.
550
00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,368
Unfortunately, gentlemen,
you are trespassing.
551
00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:28,496
You're going to have
to come with us.
552
00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:31,915
What are you doing here?
553
00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:33,458
- Filming an episode, sir.
554
00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:35,835
- "Ghost Files."
I love you guys.
555
00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:37,545
- What is "Ghost Files"?
556
00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:39,339
- Welcome to "Ghost Files,"
where we take
557
00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:42,091
your evidence and our tools
into the field
558
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,635
to expose the supernatural.
559
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:47,138
My partner, a skeptic.
Myself, a believer.
560
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:49,140
Both of us, truth seekers.
561
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,683
This week,
our team has traveled
562
00:21:50,684 --> 00:21:52,560
to Los Angeles, California,
to explore
563
00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:54,896
a condemned
psychiatric facility.
564
00:21:54,897 --> 00:21:58,399
- Now, in 1841, this was
the site of a Spanish barracks,
565
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,485
but a massive earthquake
swallowed the building,
566
00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:02,403
killing everyone inside.
567
00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,697
- Many saw the event as
retribution for Spanish crimes
568
00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:07,033
committed in the New World.
569
00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:09,494
- Sure, or an earthquake
happened in a region
570
00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:10,787
prone to earthquakes.
571
00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:12,747
[eerie music]
572
00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:14,707
- But that's just the beginning
of this site's dark history.
573
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,669
Join us as we investigate.
- This way.
574
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,046
- At that time, did you believe
the facility was haunted?
575
00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:22,215
- No.
- Yes.
576
00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:23,800
- You were filming there too.
577
00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:25,677
Did you experience
any temperature fluctuations
578
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:26,970
or anything like that?
579
00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:28,012
- I'll ask the questions,
if you don't mind.
580
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,764
- We do.
581
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,808
- But this is my documentary.
582
00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:34,602
- No, this is our YouTube show.
583
00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:36,938
- Yeah, so ghosts
are said to produce
584
00:22:36,939 --> 00:22:38,481
electromagnetic interference.
585
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,859
Did you experience any trouble
with your equipment?
586
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:44,028
[quirky music]
587
00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:46,197
- We're done here.
588
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,615
Let's cut.
Let's wrap this up.
589
00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,451
♪ ♪
590
00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:51,953
- Nice.
- Yeah.
591
00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:53,788
- All of you, let's go.
Come on.
592
00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,081
- No, no way.
593
00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:56,833
This is some of the best
footage we've ever gotten.
594
00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,293
- Listen to this.
- What is that?
595
00:22:58,294 --> 00:22:59,544
- Oh, it's a Spirit Box.
596
00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,671
Did you guys hear anything?
- A Spirit Box?
597
00:23:01,672 --> 00:23:04,716
- The Spirit Box
rapidly scans radio signals
598
00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:08,511
to create white noise through
which spirits can communicate.
599
00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:11,097
- Hello.
- See?
600
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,308
It's science.
601
00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:14,767
- Listen.
602
00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:17,312
[radio static buzzing]
603
00:23:17,313 --> 00:23:18,646
- OK, OK.
That's enough.
604
00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:19,689
We got to go.
605
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:20,815
- No, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.
606
00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,359
I heard something.
Can you turn it up?
607
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,862
[radio static pulsing]
608
00:23:25,863 --> 00:23:28,239
[indistinct voice]
609
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,074
Help me?
610
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,201
- That is not what I heard.
611
00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:34,287
- Oh, oh, well,
who do you think it is?
612
00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:37,165
- It's feedback.
- It's a ghost.
613
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,250
It was a little clearer
down the hallway.
614
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,210
- Show me.
615
00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:44,464
[tense music]
616
00:23:44,465 --> 00:23:47,425
- So we're just going to
give up on Tim and Lucy then?
617
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,802
- How long have we
been in here?
618
00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:52,680
♪ ♪
619
00:23:52,681 --> 00:23:54,891
- This room?
- Yeah.
620
00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:56,434
I don't know.
621
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,019
We've been here
for a while, right?
622
00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:01,064
- Yeah, I mean, I don't mind.
623
00:24:01,065 --> 00:24:03,441
I feel good, like, really good.
624
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,985
- Mm.
625
00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:09,739
- Do you think
we've been drugged?
626
00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:13,868
- Oh, the wet walls.
627
00:24:13,869 --> 00:24:16,162
We touched them.
- Yeah.
628
00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:18,081
- I hate making mistakes
in front of you.
629
00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:22,293
- Oh, you've never
admitted that before.
630
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:24,003
Truth serum.
631
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:26,589
- Sodium pentothal.
- Yeah.
632
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,466
- You know what?
633
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,886
We-- we should keep quiet
until this wears off.
634
00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:33,179
- No.
- Yeah.
635
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:34,597
- No.
- It's better for us.
636
00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:35,848
- No.
637
00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:40,728
What is your most
embarrassing memory?
638
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:46,109
- Oh, I mean, third grade,
I snuck my hamster
639
00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:49,570
into my classroom in my pants.
640
00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,364
- [laughs]
641
00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:54,159
[indistinct rapid speech]
642
00:25:00,249 --> 00:25:03,876
With that kind of dad,
you internalize
643
00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:07,213
the message that if you fail,
you deserve to be punished.
644
00:25:07,214 --> 00:25:11,050
And without him
to punish me, I--
645
00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,011
I guess I punished myself.
646
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:16,222
- By breaking up with me.
- Yep.
647
00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,808
I mean, it's kind of
flattering, right?
648
00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:21,436
It's the worst thing
I could think to do to myself.
649
00:25:21,437 --> 00:25:24,063
- You didn't punish
just yourself though.
650
00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:26,274
- I know.
651
00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:28,609
And look, if you never
fully forgive me,
652
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:30,027
I totally understand.
653
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:31,821
- I have already forgiven you.
654
00:25:31,822 --> 00:25:34,616
It's not even--
[laughs]
655
00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,327
Huh.
656
00:25:38,328 --> 00:25:40,496
I wonder when that happened.
657
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:42,457
- You can't put that
in the documentary.
658
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:44,333
- The LAPD makes
all body cam footage
659
00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:45,543
available to the public.
660
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,919
- OK, this is
obviously an exception.
661
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,463
- We were drugged.
662
00:25:48,464 --> 00:25:50,173
People-- people say
all sorts of things
663
00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:51,632
when they've been drugged.
664
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:54,051
- So you didn't mean
what you said?
665
00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:57,346
What about the potential
baby names you discussed?
666
00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,057
- OK, we're done here.
- Yeah.
667
00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,224
Why do we keep agreeing
to do this?
668
00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:01,059
- I don't know.
Excuse me!
669
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,894
- Help me.
670
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:04,520
- OK, you have to admit
that's a voice asking for help.
671
00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:05,688
- Yeah, sure, I heard it,
672
00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:06,731
but it's one of
their crew members
673
00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:08,191
or something pre-recorded.
674
00:26:08,192 --> 00:26:10,902
- Were you a patient here?
Is the demon with you?
675
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,737
- Somebody covered up a door.
676
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,405
- What year did you die?
677
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:17,158
- So close.
Set me free!
678
00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:19,619
I'm here!
I'm here!
679
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,828
Please--
680
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,830
- Step back, guys.
681
00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:24,791
[wall thudding]
682
00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:27,418
- Keep going!
683
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:28,669
You're almost there!
- Watch out. Ready?
684
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,798
- Go.
[wall clatters]
685
00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,800
- Abigail!
686
00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,093
- Thank you!
Thank you!
687
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,469
Thank you!
Thank you!
688
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:37,970
I've been trapped in here
for so long.
689
00:26:37,971 --> 00:26:40,389
I thought I was going to die.
Thank you!
690
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,725
- Oh, my God.
What is this room?
691
00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:44,310
- OK, but why did they
wall it all off?
692
00:26:44,311 --> 00:26:45,478
- To trap the demon.
693
00:26:45,479 --> 00:26:48,105
- Yeah, Bartleby,
the terrifying demon king
694
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,482
of paperwork.
695
00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:51,359
- How did you get down here?
696
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,946
- I was exploring,
following this--
697
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,198
this weird, beautiful noise,
698
00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,491
when all of a sudden,
it got cold.
699
00:26:58,492 --> 00:27:00,368
Like, so, so cold,
700
00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:02,578
and I could feel something
coming after me,
701
00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,206
and I was scared,
so I hid behind a cabinet,
702
00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:07,542
but the floor
was wet and rusted,
703
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,919
and it collapsed.
I couldn't climb back out.
704
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,004
- You fell from there?
Are you OK?
705
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:14,799
- I think I twisted my ankle,
but I feel no pain.
706
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,801
- You've been missing
for two weeks.
707
00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,596
How the hell did you survive?
- Oh.
708
00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:24,475
I had a bunch of
trail mix in my bag.
709
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:27,019
Plus, I found, like,
this ancient water jug
710
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:28,312
in one of the cabinets.
711
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,231
Plus, Bob.
712
00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:33,276
Bob had PowerBars.
Bob had PowerBars.
713
00:27:33,277 --> 00:27:34,610
- Bob?
- [screams]
714
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:35,987
- Oh, my God!
715
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:37,488
- If it wasn't for Bob,
716
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:40,199
I would have lost
my mind down here.
717
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,201
Don't be shy, Bob.
Say hello.
718
00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:43,871
[whispering]
Shy.
719
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:49,417
- Abigail was safe,
and, uh, considering
720
00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:53,421
what she'd been through,
relatively healthy.
721
00:27:53,422 --> 00:27:55,172
- Except for her mental state.
722
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:58,175
- That did pose some questions.
723
00:27:58,176 --> 00:27:59,844
- At first, I was angry.
724
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:02,346
You know, like,
we're stuck down here together.
725
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,223
At least try
and have a conversation.
726
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:07,518
And then I realized
Bob's just shy.
727
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:08,686
He's just shy.
728
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,605
And there's nothing wrong
with that, right?
729
00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:11,856
- Right.
730
00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,317
- Did you believe
she'd had a demonic encounter?
731
00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,652
- She went in perfectly sane
732
00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:19,322
and came out best friends
with a corpse.
733
00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:21,741
That's how possession works.
You can't rule out demons.
734
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:23,075
- Yes, you can.
735
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:24,328
- Nolan, look at this.
736
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,749
666, just like Zuzu said.
737
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,000
[soft dramatic music]
738
00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:33,669
- It was a weird coincidence.
739
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,757
It was a weird coincidence.
740
00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:41,093
- We found quite a cocktail
of drugs in your system.
741
00:28:41,094 --> 00:28:43,846
- I don't do drugs.
Does pot count?
742
00:28:43,847 --> 00:28:47,266
- No, we're talking about
powerful hallucinogens.
743
00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:49,226
- I'm not hallucinating.
744
00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,145
Ask Bob.
745
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,189
- I had them run
the test twice,
746
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,941
and we found a similar cocktail
747
00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:57,276
in Officer Chen
and Sergeant Bradford.
748
00:28:57,277 --> 00:29:00,404
- Mercifully, none of the drugs
were fat soluble.
749
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,032
Otherwise, department policy
750
00:29:03,033 --> 00:29:04,617
would have forced
Sergeant Bradford
751
00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:06,994
and Officer Chen
into medical retirement.
752
00:29:06,995 --> 00:29:08,329
- Is that what killed Bob,
753
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,581
whatever drug
they were exposed to?
754
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:14,502
- No, he was shot six times
in the chest.
755
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:16,087
- Did you get an ID
on the body?
756
00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:17,922
- His name was Bob Medina,
a friend reported him
757
00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:19,090
missing about six months ago.
758
00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,342
He was a private investigator.
759
00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:22,343
- What was his connection
to the hospital?
760
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:24,512
- At first,
we couldn't find one.
761
00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:27,014
- So to be clear,
there was now a third killer
762
00:29:27,015 --> 00:29:28,975
associated with that location?
763
00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,518
At this point,
it can't be a coincidence.
764
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:32,353
There has to be something
about that facility
765
00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:34,021
that draws people
towards homicide.
766
00:29:34,022 --> 00:29:36,190
- That's a stretch and a half.
767
00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,401
Westview is a hospital
for the mentally ill
768
00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:40,319
and the criminally insane.
Novak was a patient.
769
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,988
Glasser was there
looking for a patsy.
770
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:44,407
And whoever killed Bob
saw an abandoned building
771
00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:46,034
and was like, "That's a perfect
place to dump a body."
772
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,413
What?
773
00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:53,833
- Or there was some dark energy
that drew evil to it.
774
00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:56,377
- You really believe that?
- I'm Catholic.
775
00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:57,878
I was raised on demons
and the battle
776
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,797
against Satan's minions.
777
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:01,757
- Well, I was raised
on the scientific method.
778
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:04,343
- OK, so if it's all
so explainable,
779
00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:06,554
spend the night there.
I dare you.
780
00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:07,847
- Pass.
781
00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:08,848
- You're scared.
782
00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:11,225
- No, I'm not scared.
783
00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,102
- One could argue that
the drugs in the hospital
784
00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:15,938
are hardly surprising,
even hallucinogens.
785
00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:17,231
Over the decades,
they have been used
786
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,108
in experimental medicine.
- No, true.
787
00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:21,986
Just the type and volume
is what set off--
788
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:24,864
- What are you doing?
- Conducting an interview.
789
00:30:24,865 --> 00:30:26,615
Could you please come back
in, like, an hour?
790
00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:28,826
- You said you'd talk to me
for my documentary.
791
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,411
- You have a documentary?
792
00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:32,538
- Well, it's my story.
Who better to tell it?
793
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,040
- Well, no problem.
794
00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:35,750
I can sit down with you just
as soon as we're done here.
795
00:30:35,751 --> 00:30:37,209
- Oh, I wish.
It has to be exclusive.
796
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,128
You can't do both.
797
00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:40,588
- She's right.
It has to be exclusive.
798
00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,339
Either you're doing my doc,
or you're doing hers,
799
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,841
and we have a long history.
800
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,176
- I was almost
his daughter-in-law,
801
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:47,595
so suck it.
802
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:49,180
- I'm going to have
to go with her.
803
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,807
I'm sorry.
- Seriously?
804
00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:53,851
I have a BAFTA.
805
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,187
OK, fine.
806
00:30:56,188 --> 00:30:58,189
Let's wrap it up.
- This way. The set's this way.
807
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,899
It's better lighting
over there.
808
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,442
We got a great team.
809
00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:03,277
- We are going to need
our mic back.
810
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:04,361
- Yes, oh, sorry.
- Yeah, of course.
811
00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:06,363
We have our own.
- Sorry.
812
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,616
I'll see you guys around.
- Good luck.
813
00:31:08,617 --> 00:31:10,493
- We can talk about what else
I found inside the secret lab.
814
00:31:10,494 --> 00:31:12,036
- Oh, right.
815
00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,913
Well, you did find
some paperwork.
816
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:16,832
- Explosive paperwork.
817
00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:18,667
Evidence of a secret
government program.
818
00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:20,377
Close the door softly please.
819
00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:22,713
- Well, I don't know that
we can say that for sure.
820
00:31:22,714 --> 00:31:23,924
- Oh, we could.
821
00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:27,093
[dramatic R&B music]
822
00:31:27,094 --> 00:31:28,511
My name is Abigail Tierney.
823
00:31:28,512 --> 00:31:30,679
I'm currently trapped
inside a secret lab
824
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,306
at Westview Psychiatric.
825
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,517
All attempts at escape
have proven fruitless.
826
00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:37,061
If I'm to die here,
I leave you this footage
827
00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:40,397
along with my in-process
documentary as evidence
828
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,733
of my hunt for the truth
about the evils
829
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,902
that inhabit
this accursed place.
830
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,904
- ♪ The way I move
is a mystery ♪
831
00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,239
♪ I'm not the way ♪
832
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,241
- What's this?
833
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:51,450
♪ ♪
834
00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:52,910
Cool.
835
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:54,662
That's when I realized
I'd uncovered
836
00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,623
something more haunting than
any ghost or serial killer.
837
00:31:57,624 --> 00:31:59,875
I'd uncovered a conspiracy
that went to
838
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:03,879
the very highest levels
of our government.
839
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840
- The government files
Abigail found
840
00:32:05,841 --> 00:32:09,510
detailed classified plans
and methods
841
00:32:09,511 --> 00:32:11,637
for human experimentation.
842
00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:13,347
- What type of experimentation?
843
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:14,890
- Are you familiar
with MK-Ultra?
844
00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:16,559
- Of course.
845
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,894
It was a top secret CIA program
in the '50s and '60s
846
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:20,729
using experimental drugs
847
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:22,273
to aid in
interrogation techniques.
848
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,066
- It was straight-up
mind control.
849
00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:27,570
I mean, they used high doses
of psychoactive drugs like LSD,
850
00:32:27,571 --> 00:32:31,615
sodium pentothal, which is
also known as a "truth serum."
851
00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:35,786
The program ran
from 1953 to 1973
852
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,997
before it was shut down
following a public outcry.
853
00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:40,374
I mean, all the facilities
were closed.
854
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:42,084
- There's no evidence
the CIA ever used Westview
855
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:43,669
as a base of operations.
856
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:46,714
So what were top secret
MK-Ultra documents doing there?
857
00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,382
- Good question.
858
00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:50,009
We started digging
into the trove of files
859
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:51,760
Abigail had found, and one name
860
00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,888
kept popping up
again and again.
861
00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:56,098
- Dr. Julius Erickson.
862
00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,310
He was one of the psychologists
contracted by the CIA
863
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:02,271
to conduct
experimental research.
864
00:33:02,272 --> 00:33:05,816
- And after MK-Ultra
shut down, he took a new job.
865
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,359
- Director of Westview.
866
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,653
- Dr. Erickson ran
the hospital for 20 years.
867
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:11,614
And from the notes
we uncovered,
868
00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,533
it seems clear he continued
his own research in private,
869
00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:16,535
trying to use the
psychological breakthroughs
870
00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:19,038
from MK-Ultra
to further his own research
871
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,998
into mind-altering drugs.
872
00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:23,000
- I assume he used those drugs
on Westview patients?
873
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,960
- Yeah, at first.
874
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,795
But then, he started
using them on himself,
875
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:28,923
believing he had found the key
to improving his own mind.
876
00:33:28,924 --> 00:33:30,466
- He hadn't.
877
00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:32,384
And in a last moment
of lucidity,
878
00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:34,762
Erickson decided
to destroy his research.
879
00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:36,722
- He dumped the chemicals
outside the building,
880
00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:39,058
where they started to slowly
seep into the structure.
881
00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:40,643
- And some of the drugs
were potent enough
882
00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:42,478
to be absorbed
simply by touch,
883
00:33:42,479 --> 00:33:44,396
even when diluted.
884
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:46,398
- Erickson committed himself
to Westview shortly after,
885
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,692
never said another word.
886
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,486
He died in 2020.
887
00:33:50,487 --> 00:33:52,821
- Did the CIA ever find out
what Erickson was doing?
888
00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:55,491
- Not that we've found,
but it's not like the agency
889
00:33:55,492 --> 00:33:57,661
ever returns our phone calls.
890
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:02,206
- Anyone who studied the past
knows that the CIA
891
00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:04,917
has a history of
violent cover-ups.
892
00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,877
MK-Ultra
might have become public,
893
00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:08,087
but that doesn't mean
there still
894
00:34:08,088 --> 00:34:09,880
aren't secrets to protect.
895
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,716
By uncovering Dr. Erickson's
connection to Westview
896
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:17,388
and discovering Bob's body,
I've put myself in danger.
897
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:19,640
But the best way
to protect yourself
898
00:34:19,641 --> 00:34:23,394
is with the truth, which
brings me to Caroline McGrath.
899
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,396
Turns out Caroline is the one
900
00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:27,523
who hired Bob
to go to Westview,
901
00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:30,025
and I need to find out why
before it's too late.
902
00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:31,736
I think--
[body thuds]
903
00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:45,207
- What the hell?
- We got lucky.
904
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:47,334
A woman in the neighborhood
heard a commotion
905
00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,920
and filmed
Abigail's abduction.
906
00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:51,297
- Thanks to them, we were able
to track the vehicle.
907
00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:52,506
- Where'd it go?
908
00:34:52,507 --> 00:34:55,467
- Back to where it all began,
Westview.
909
00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:58,262
[suspenseful music]
910
00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:01,765
♪ ♪
911
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:03,392
- Police!
Drop the weapon!
912
00:35:03,393 --> 00:35:05,227
On the ground.
913
00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:07,313
Hands on your head.
Turn around.
914
00:35:07,314 --> 00:35:08,689
Walk towards my partner.
915
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:10,941
- Hands behind your back.
916
00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:13,527
- You OK?
- Yeah, totally fine.
917
00:35:13,528 --> 00:35:15,112
Carl's going through it, though.
918
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,947
- I never really even
knew my mother.
919
00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,198
- Does anyone, really?
920
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:19,908
- What is going on here?
921
00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:22,536
- Well, my friend Carl here
was being pressured
922
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:25,789
into killing me, but then,
we got to talking, right?
923
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,583
- Yeah, and I couldn't.
- Yeah.
924
00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:31,503
- OK, but pressured by who?
- Um, my boss.
925
00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:33,547
- Meg Davidson.
- Who?
926
00:35:33,548 --> 00:35:36,342
- The current director
at Westview Psychiatric.
927
00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:38,927
[dramatic music]
928
00:35:38,928 --> 00:35:40,387
- But she started working
at the hospital
929
00:35:40,388 --> 00:35:42,723
long after Julius Erickson
went mad,
930
00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:44,141
and she has no links
to the CIA,
931
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,435
so why would she try
to kill Abigail?
932
00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:49,355
- To cover up Bob's murder.
- And who killed Bob?
933
00:35:49,356 --> 00:35:51,565
- Can you introduce yourself?
934
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,442
- Oh, yes.
My name is Caroline McGrath.
935
00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:56,195
- You hired my friend,
Bob Medina,
936
00:35:56,196 --> 00:35:58,072
because you had questions
937
00:35:58,073 --> 00:36:00,115
about your friend Winona's
treatment at Westview, right?
938
00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:01,909
- Yes, of course,
everyone thought
939
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:05,079
I was just being paranoid,
but Bob didn't,
940
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,622
and it got him killed.
941
00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,290
- You worked with
Winona Baker, right?
942
00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:11,627
- Yes, she was hospitalized
with depression
943
00:36:11,628 --> 00:36:13,587
by her daughter.
944
00:36:13,588 --> 00:36:17,007
Seemed like therapy and some
medication would help her,
945
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:19,593
but Winona got worse fast.
946
00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,261
Lost track of reality,
947
00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:24,807
she exhibited signs
of psychosis,
948
00:36:24,808 --> 00:36:27,309
paranoia, dissociation.
949
00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:29,395
And by that point,
I wondered whether a transfer
950
00:36:29,396 --> 00:36:31,647
to a new facility might
be in her best interest.
951
00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:33,232
- And then?
952
00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:35,651
- The director informed me
that Winona's family
953
00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:37,903
had gotten a judge
to order a conservatorship,
954
00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:40,823
and they wanted her
to stay for good.
955
00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:42,032
- You were suspicious?
956
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,992
- Winona always had her funks.
957
00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:46,286
But she wasn't crazy
958
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,539
until that place
made her lose her mind.
959
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,332
- And that proved to be
the break you needed?
960
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,334
- Yeah, when we started
looking into it,
961
00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:55,462
it turned out a significant
number of Westview patients
962
00:36:55,463 --> 00:36:58,090
were wealthy,
and a high percentage
963
00:36:58,091 --> 00:37:00,342
were ordered
into conservatorship.
964
00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:03,095
- Now, conservatorship
is extremely difficult
965
00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:06,223
to get for an adult because of
the potential abuse of power.
966
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,350
It gives one party
legal authority
967
00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:10,436
over certain aspects of
another person's life,
968
00:37:10,437 --> 00:37:12,396
including managing
all of their assets.
969
00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:14,106
It's like what happened
to Britney Spears.
970
00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:15,858
- "Manage their assets"--
971
00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:17,359
rich person speak
for controlling
972
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,111
someone else's money.
- [chuckles]
973
00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:22,948
Yes, and money makes people
do crazy things.
974
00:37:22,949 --> 00:37:25,951
- Like poison
their family member's water
975
00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:27,870
with a chemical cocktail
so potent
976
00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:29,580
it has the potential
to permanently damage
977
00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:30,956
the human psyche?
978
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,292
[exhales deeply]
979
00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:36,295
- Yeah, just like that.
[chuckles]
980
00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:38,297
- I was supposed to inherit,
981
00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:42,551
but, um, after my break
with reality,
982
00:37:42,552 --> 00:37:45,137
my dad cut me off, and
my brother got everything.
983
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,680
- What's everything?
984
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:49,433
- Oh, about, um, $12 million.
985
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,851
- It must have been hard going
from that kind of wealth
986
00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:52,895
to nannying.
- Oh, no.
987
00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:54,688
No, it was a blessing.
988
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:58,484
I really think that helping
children was my calling.
989
00:37:58,485 --> 00:37:59,902
Mm.
990
00:37:59,903 --> 00:38:01,779
- Once we found the pattern,
we started interviewing
991
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,197
some of the families.
992
00:38:03,198 --> 00:38:04,656
A little pressure,
and they cracked.
993
00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:05,866
- And with
the search warrant,
994
00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:08,035
we found the gun
used to kill Bob Medina
995
00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:09,828
in Director Davidson's closet.
996
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:12,539
- She'd been running
her scam for a decade.
997
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,833
Turns out she was
Dr. Erickson's therapist
998
00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:16,793
in the last years of his life.
999
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:19,713
He must have told her
about his experiments.
1000
00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:22,925
In exploring his old lab,
she'd uncovered
1001
00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:25,302
the tainted water,
realized its potential.
1002
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:28,263
And we had her
on murder, fraud,
1003
00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:32,059
elder abuse, kidnapping,
attempted murder, poisoning.
1004
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,312
- Miss Davidson, would you
like to make a comment?
1005
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:36,897
You know, this might be
your last chance to tell
1006
00:38:36,898 --> 00:38:38,148
your side of the story.
1007
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,067
[tense music]
1008
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:42,611
Look at all these
people watching.
1009
00:38:42,612 --> 00:38:44,696
- The state ordered
a full investigation
1010
00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:46,823
into every conservatorship
Westview ordered.
1011
00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:48,450
God willing,
the victims will get
1012
00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:50,285
their rights and assets back.
1013
00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:52,829
- And Westview itself
has been closed for good.
1014
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,915
- But the lawsuits
are just starting,
1015
00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:57,668
not to mention the rest
of the legal ramifications.
1016
00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,170
- I'm glad this is getting
so much attention.
1017
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:04,383
These poor, abused patients
can finally get justice.
1018
00:39:04,384 --> 00:39:06,760
- Do you think it could
impact your case at all?
1019
00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:09,346
- It certainly gives my defense
a fresh coat of paint.
1020
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,849
If the jury
won't listen to reason--
1021
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,892
because I am innocent--
1022
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,270
perhaps they will listen
to the tragic story
1023
00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:19,523
of a simple tradesman
falling victim
1024
00:39:19,524 --> 00:39:24,820
to a poisoned environment that
chemically affected my psyche.
1025
00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:28,282
- And what did that
environment make you do?
1026
00:39:28,283 --> 00:39:30,075
- Who can say?
Certainly not me.
1027
00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:33,912
I-- I wasn't in my right mind.
1028
00:39:33,913 --> 00:39:36,164
- Yeah, the, um--
the poisoned water
1029
00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:38,875
was only found
in the abandoned psych ward.
1030
00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,628
No vending machines left
to fill there, right?
1031
00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:45,883
- At this point,
I must confess I did go inside
1032
00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:48,719
that abandoned ward
back when I was a kid.
1033
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,847
My father's warnings,
they didn't scare me away.
1034
00:39:51,848 --> 00:39:55,058
They only made me
more desperate to see.
1035
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:59,771
And whatever lurked inside...
1036
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:01,773
must have infected me.
1037
00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:04,443
[eerie music]
1038
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:05,903
- Hm.
1039
00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:08,155
- Glasser is claiming that
the presence of those drugs
1040
00:40:08,156 --> 00:40:10,115
would absolve him of
any alleged responsibility
1041
00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:11,617
for the murders.
1042
00:40:11,618 --> 00:40:13,243
- There is no way that defense
is going to work.
1043
00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,331
We have Glasser dead to rights.
- Are you sure about that?
1044
00:40:18,458 --> 00:40:19,917
- Yeah.
1045
00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,793
Mm-hmm.
1046
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,589
[timpani booming]
1047
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:29,010
- [clears throat]
1048
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:33,263
- Hey, hey.
Sorry.
1049
00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:36,266
I know we talked about me not
recording interviews in here,
1050
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:40,187
but Rodge mentioned he needed
a space with great acoustics.
1051
00:40:40,188 --> 00:40:42,105
And, you know,
we're shutting it down.
1052
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:43,982
We're shutting it down.
Shut it--
1053
00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:46,485
shut it down.
- Shutting it down, copy.
1054
00:40:46,486 --> 00:40:47,986
Hi.
Sorry.
1055
00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:49,404
She said this was cool.
1056
00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:50,739
You're going to help me
get these in the van, right?
1057
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,367
- I'll be right there.
1058
00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:56,119
- Next time,
handcuffs and squad cars.
1059
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,330
- Yeah, totally understandable.
1060
00:40:58,331 --> 00:41:00,540
[upbeat music]
1061
00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:02,459
Thanks again for going
exclusive with me.
1062
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:04,670
Seriously, this doc
is going to be huge.
1063
00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:06,463
- I hope so.
1064
00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,632
You deserve something good
after what you've been through.
1065
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,759
How are you holding up?
- Oh, I'm-- I'm fine.
1066
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,720
I'm happy to have something
to focus on.
1067
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,722
- When I've been through
some scary times,
1068
00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:19,643
I have been guilty of using
my work as my therapy,
1069
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,354
but if there's ever a time
you need someone to talk to--
1070
00:41:22,355 --> 00:41:24,147
- Thank you.
Really.
1071
00:41:24,148 --> 00:41:25,899
But I already have
a great therapist,
1072
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,651
one with zero history
at Westview.
1073
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,821
- Excellent.
1074
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:32,614
You know, there's still
something I can't figure out.
1075
00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,575
How did you know
that Bob the PI
1076
00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:37,452
was working
for Caroline McGrath.
1077
00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:40,789
- Oh, Bob told me while
we were stuck in the lab.
1078
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:43,458
He got chatty
once he opened up.
1079
00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:44,876
I have that effect on people.
1080
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:47,045
♪ ♪
1081
00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:49,631
- We had to come back because
our job isn't finished.
1082
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:51,258
This hospital
has housed killers,
1083
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:54,219
evil experiments,
and perhaps the supernatural.
1084
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,471
- Our job as investigators
is to collect
1085
00:41:56,472 --> 00:41:59,224
and present questions
and possibilities.
1086
00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:03,019
Interpretation, however,
solely belongs with you.
1087
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,230
- Did Westview really--
1088
00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,233
[eerie voice whispering]]
1089
00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:11,069
[flashlights buzzing]
1090
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:13,613
- Should we check that out?
1091
00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:15,741
- I might be good.
1092
00:42:15,742 --> 00:42:17,701
- You know what?
Me too.
1093
00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:19,953
[eerie music]
1094
00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:22,247
- Whoo!
1095
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:23,040
- Oh, God!
- [screams]
1096
00:42:26,127 --> 00:42:29,129
[upbeat music]
1097
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:36,179
♪ ♪
1098
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,078
- Damn it.
81753
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