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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,900 --> 00:00:18,433 In 1967, a monster came into my life. 2 00:00:19,533 --> 00:00:23,266 In the years to come, we'd meet more like him. 3 00:00:23,267 --> 00:00:24,632 Names you'd recognize -- 4 00:00:24,633 --> 00:00:28,532 Gacy, Bundy, Dahmer. 5 00:00:28,533 --> 00:00:32,266 But back then, in a Michigan college town? 6 00:00:32,267 --> 00:00:37,466 No one could imagine that such a beast could exist. 7 00:00:37,467 --> 00:00:40,599 For years, he'd stay a phantom. 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,167 His only mark -- a trail of dead girls. 9 00:00:49,167 --> 00:00:53,233 And this, right here -- just the beginning. 10 00:01:14,067 --> 00:01:15,899 I know most people get nostalgic 11 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:17,332 about their college years. 12 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:20,132 I get it. It's a time when you're young. 13 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:22,466 Anything is possible, and for most people, 14 00:01:22,467 --> 00:01:25,666 nothing really bad has happened yet. 15 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:28,432 But I'm different. 16 00:01:28,433 --> 00:01:30,266 I had a friend in college 17 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:32,666 to whom something terrible happened -- 18 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:35,599 something hideous. 19 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,700 And after that, life was never the same. 20 00:01:53,067 --> 00:01:56,532 {\an8}The first body was found by friends of my brothers. 21 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:58,099 {\an8}They had heard a car door slam, 22 00:01:58,100 --> 00:01:59,732 {\an8}which is what drew them to the area, 23 00:01:59,733 --> 00:02:01,132 {\an8}and then saw this -- 24 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:02,966 {\an8}you know, the car drove away. 25 00:02:02,967 --> 00:02:04,299 They didn't get a good look at it, 26 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:05,966 but they smelled something. 27 00:02:05,967 --> 00:02:07,566 They immediately went running 28 00:02:07,567 --> 00:02:10,333 for the Ypsilanti Police to tell them. 29 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,632 What those boys found was unrecognizable. 30 00:02:15,633 --> 00:02:18,966 They weren't sure at first if it was even human 31 00:02:18,967 --> 00:02:21,499 until they saw an ear. 32 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,066 The feet are missing, a hand is missing, 33 00:02:24,067 --> 00:02:25,867 the head is all mushed up. 34 00:02:27,933 --> 00:02:31,866 They call the medical examiner. 35 00:02:31,867 --> 00:02:33,799 Wow. This is a mess. 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,932 {\an8}They weren't absolutely positive, 37 00:02:35,933 --> 00:02:37,632 {\an8}but it looked like she had been stabbed. 38 00:02:37,633 --> 00:02:41,432 {\an8}But not only stabbed -- stabbed multiple times. 39 00:02:41,433 --> 00:02:44,599 Major decomposition. 40 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,699 They called the crime lab in, 41 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,532 did not find anything in the way of clues 42 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:53,432 other than the body itself. 43 00:02:53,433 --> 00:02:56,932 In 1967, they really wouldn't have had 44 00:02:56,933 --> 00:02:59,066 a lot of sense of forensic science. 45 00:02:59,067 --> 00:03:01,499 You know, obviously fingerprints, 46 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,733 but not much else. 47 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:08,866 They look all through the area, 48 00:03:08,867 --> 00:03:11,499 and there should have been a lot of blood, and there wasn't, 49 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,666 so they know the woman has been killed somewhere else 50 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:15,932 and moved to this scene. 51 00:03:15,933 --> 00:03:21,666 It was the deliberateness of it that was alarming. 52 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:23,899 It meant that somebody had planned this. 53 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:26,866 If it was an accident, they could have handled it, 54 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:29,666 but it wasn't an accident. 55 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:31,766 They found an orange dress 56 00:03:31,767 --> 00:03:33,532 with white polka dots. 57 00:03:33,533 --> 00:03:36,667 {\an8}It's kind of torn down the middle. 58 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:45,099 The dress -- 59 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:49,466 that orange-and-white polka-dot dress. 60 00:03:49,467 --> 00:03:52,099 I remember when it was brand new. 61 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:53,299 So, what do you think? 62 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,232 This one or the orange one? 63 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:57,966 Now, that's Mary. She was my friend. 64 00:03:57,967 --> 00:04:02,066 We met at that very beginning of freshman year. 65 00:04:02,067 --> 00:04:03,399 It's so short, though. 66 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,166 No, it's not, it's fine. 67 00:04:05,167 --> 00:04:07,066 She hadn't wanted to buy that dress, 68 00:04:07,067 --> 00:04:08,532 but I convinced her to. 69 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:11,967 I thought it made her look like twiggy. 70 00:04:17,767 --> 00:04:20,466 Mary Fleszar was 19. 71 00:04:20,467 --> 00:04:22,432 A very studious girl -- 72 00:04:22,433 --> 00:04:24,732 she got a four-year scholarship to E.M.U. 73 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:29,432 She was from a tight-knit Polish-German family. 74 00:04:29,433 --> 00:04:31,866 She was not known to be a partier. 75 00:04:31,867 --> 00:04:33,899 Faye Dunaway? 76 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:36,699 {\an8}This was her first experience away from home, 77 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:39,532 {\an8}it had only been less than a month. 78 00:04:39,533 --> 00:04:40,966 They're just a little too high. 79 00:04:40,967 --> 00:04:43,566 Why would you wear something with that much heel? 80 00:04:43,567 --> 00:04:44,832 And I certainly don't think of her 81 00:04:44,833 --> 00:04:47,566 as living any kind of a high-risk lifestyle. 82 00:04:47,567 --> 00:04:51,732 Decades have passed since that day. 83 00:04:51,733 --> 00:04:53,266 Look, you can see my whole knee! 84 00:04:53,267 --> 00:04:54,566 It looks fine! 85 00:04:54,567 --> 00:04:55,832 And I still think about 86 00:04:55,833 --> 00:04:57,432 all the things that I could have done 87 00:04:57,433 --> 00:05:00,367 that would've changed what happened. 88 00:05:07,333 --> 00:05:09,366 When she's first reported missing, 89 00:05:09,367 --> 00:05:10,766 her family and friends know this is 90 00:05:10,767 --> 00:05:12,566 really out of character for her. 91 00:05:12,567 --> 00:05:14,766 But the police, you know -- 92 00:05:14,767 --> 00:05:17,332 this is 1967, this is a college student, 93 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:19,232 it's the summer. 94 00:05:19,233 --> 00:05:20,866 Kids went missing all the time, 95 00:05:20,867 --> 00:05:22,066 and they always turned up -- 96 00:05:22,067 --> 00:05:23,766 they ended up going to a friend's house, 97 00:05:23,767 --> 00:05:25,766 they hitchhiked a ride across town, 98 00:05:25,767 --> 00:05:27,466 they stayed late to a party. 99 00:05:27,467 --> 00:05:30,366 So when Mary's roommate reported her missing, 100 00:05:30,367 --> 00:05:32,533 nobody really thought a lot about it. 101 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:37,566 So, it stays just a pure missing-persons case 102 00:05:37,567 --> 00:05:39,832 for almost a month, 103 00:05:39,833 --> 00:05:42,266 until her body's found. 104 00:05:42,267 --> 00:05:44,332 They knew the body in the field was Mary 105 00:05:44,333 --> 00:05:45,632 because of her teeth. 106 00:05:45,633 --> 00:05:48,066 It was the only thing left of her 107 00:05:48,067 --> 00:05:49,899 that wasn't destroyed. 108 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:53,332 We needed some clues, which there was none, 109 00:05:53,333 --> 00:05:56,732 other than we found a body. 110 00:05:56,733 --> 00:05:59,866 Where was she last seen? Who's seen her? 111 00:05:59,867 --> 00:06:04,232 The amazing thing was a few people had seen Mary. 112 00:06:04,233 --> 00:06:07,699 Right before she disappeared, they noticed her. 113 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:09,767 Maybe it was that dress. 114 00:06:13,833 --> 00:06:15,799 Hey, there! You need a ride? 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,799 No. It's okay. 116 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,232 She was walking around her neighborhood, 117 00:06:20,233 --> 00:06:23,799 and people reported seeing a blue-and-gray car 118 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,632 pull up to the side of the road, 119 00:06:25,633 --> 00:06:29,199 and she walked to the window and talked to someone inside. 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,267 She shook her head "No", and went walking on. 121 00:06:40,767 --> 00:06:43,266 Well, he took his car 122 00:06:43,267 --> 00:06:45,300 and went around the block and came back. 123 00:06:46,567 --> 00:06:50,732 And Mary seems to be saying, "No, thank you. No, thank you." 124 00:06:50,733 --> 00:06:52,767 I'm sorry! 125 00:06:57,067 --> 00:07:01,099 He hit the gas and took off. 126 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:03,667 This was the last that the witness had seen of her. 127 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,366 The first thing the police did was 128 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:16,366 to find out if she had any boyfriends, 129 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:19,399 if she had any problems with anybody. 130 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,332 They asked all of us -- all of her friends. 131 00:07:22,333 --> 00:07:24,166 I kept wondering what they meant. 132 00:07:24,167 --> 00:07:26,366 She was nice, sweet Mary. 133 00:07:26,367 --> 00:07:28,232 What kind of problem could she have had 134 00:07:28,233 --> 00:07:29,532 that made someone want to kill her? 135 00:07:29,533 --> 00:07:33,099 Hi. It's me. 136 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:37,566 She had been dating somebody that nobody really knew. 137 00:07:37,567 --> 00:07:39,799 Yes, I'm sure. 138 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,632 So, what do I do? 139 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:44,632 She had gone to a doctor 140 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:47,066 and was worried that she was pregnant. 141 00:07:47,067 --> 00:07:48,766 It's true -- 142 00:07:48,767 --> 00:07:50,699 the part about her being worried. 143 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,266 We all worried about that. 144 00:07:52,267 --> 00:07:54,399 Getting pregnant was the worst thing 145 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,666 any of us could imagine happening back then. 146 00:07:57,667 --> 00:08:02,666 They thought whoever the father of this child was 147 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:05,232 might have been the perpetrator. 148 00:08:05,233 --> 00:08:06,766 They asked me about the boyfriend, 149 00:08:06,767 --> 00:08:08,066 and I told them the truth. 150 00:08:08,067 --> 00:08:09,666 She had been seeing a boy, 151 00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:11,466 but none of us had ever met him. 152 00:08:11,467 --> 00:08:13,066 We didn't even know his name. 153 00:08:13,067 --> 00:08:16,199 So, after she died, there was no way to find him, 154 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,732 or even know if he'd run. 155 00:08:17,733 --> 00:08:19,299 Police are at a loss. 156 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:20,932 And, at the autopsy, 157 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:23,666 they find out she wasn't pregnant, 158 00:08:23,667 --> 00:08:25,199 and they had all these kind of vague rumors 159 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,167 and no clear leads. 160 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:31,266 Then, prior to the funeral, 161 00:08:31,267 --> 00:08:33,267 something extremely odd happened. 162 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,199 Excuse me, sir. Can I help you? 163 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,099 Somebody showed up and asked if he would open the casket 164 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:01,567 so he could take a photograph. 165 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:04,866 Well, of course, they said, 166 00:09:04,867 --> 00:09:07,332 "No, you can't take a picture of the body." 167 00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:10,266 And the person who was there was so overwhelmed 168 00:09:10,267 --> 00:09:12,966 that he didn't even get a description of him. 169 00:09:12,967 --> 00:09:15,399 They wondered if this was the killer coming back 170 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,532 to take some sort of gruesome souvenir picture. 171 00:09:19,533 --> 00:09:22,833 He turned around, went out to his car... 172 00:09:27,367 --> 00:09:29,533 ...a dark-blue-color car. 173 00:09:34,833 --> 00:09:36,232 The police went out, 174 00:09:36,233 --> 00:09:40,066 and anybody who had a car that remotely matched that -- 175 00:09:40,067 --> 00:09:43,499 they interviewed at least a half a dozen people. 176 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,766 We were hoping that, you know, we could come up with something. 177 00:09:45,767 --> 00:09:49,599 And every one of those cars 178 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,167 checked out to be clean. 179 00:09:57,367 --> 00:10:00,599 It wasn't fair. 180 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,999 I didn't understand it. 181 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,732 This awful thing had happened, 182 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:07,767 and whoever had done it had gotten away with it. 183 00:10:11,867 --> 00:10:14,399 The police wanted to believe 184 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,399 that a transient had come through, 185 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,666 had picked up the girl, accosted her in some way -- 186 00:10:20,667 --> 00:10:23,866 that this was an isolated incident 187 00:10:23,867 --> 00:10:27,833 and he's gone and our problem is solved. 188 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,099 They could believe what they wanted, 189 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:36,532 but the problem wasn't solved. 190 00:10:36,533 --> 00:10:40,199 It was just beginning. 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,099 The monster liked what he'd done, 192 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:45,500 and he was gonna come back for more. 193 00:11:00,867 --> 00:11:03,932 It had been almost a year since Mary was murdered. 194 00:11:03,933 --> 00:11:06,532 Whoever had done it had gotten away with it, 195 00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:09,500 and it seemed like everyone had just moved on. 196 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:20,666 And then, 20 miles away, another girl was found dead. 197 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:22,766 Her name was Joan, 198 00:11:22,767 --> 00:11:25,233 and she reminded me a lot of Mary. 199 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:30,166 Joan Schell was found at a construction site. 200 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:33,732 {\an8}She had a bunch of puncture wounds 201 00:11:33,733 --> 00:11:35,699 {\an8}in her upper chest area, 202 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:38,467 {\an8}and she had three in the back. 203 00:11:39,667 --> 00:11:42,832 And it looked like she had been raped. 204 00:11:42,833 --> 00:11:44,932 The police were perplexed. 205 00:11:44,933 --> 00:11:48,332 There were no clues whatsoever. 206 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,599 Joan was Mary's age. 207 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,499 She went to E.M.U., like Mary, 208 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,732 and she had long, brown hair, like Mary, 209 00:11:54,733 --> 00:11:58,766 but there was another similarity, too. 210 00:11:58,767 --> 00:12:00,499 {\an8}This was not where she had been killed. 211 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:02,467 {\an8}She had been moved there. 212 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,299 Joan was going from Ypsi 213 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:33,467 to Ann Arbor to see her boyfriend. 214 00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:39,766 A friend of hers walked her to the bus stop. 215 00:12:39,767 --> 00:12:41,667 They stood there and they waited for the bus. 216 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,467 But the bus never came. 217 00:12:57,067 --> 00:12:59,366 Hey, there. Hi! 218 00:12:59,367 --> 00:13:02,966 {\an8}But what does show up is a car with three men inside. 219 00:13:02,967 --> 00:13:04,666 We're headed that way, too. You need a ride? 220 00:13:04,667 --> 00:13:06,932 Um... 221 00:13:06,933 --> 00:13:09,232 Okay, hold on one second. Okay. 222 00:13:09,233 --> 00:13:11,599 Okay, these guys are going in the same direction. 223 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,166 No, we'll just wait for the bus. 224 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:14,366 The bus is not coming. 225 00:13:14,367 --> 00:13:16,732 Yes, it will come. 226 00:13:16,733 --> 00:13:17,667 I'm going. 227 00:13:17,668 --> 00:13:19,432 Please be careful. 228 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:22,132 Okay. 229 00:13:22,133 --> 00:13:24,433 Okay. 230 00:13:28,267 --> 00:13:31,167 So she gets in the car and takes off. 231 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,467 Well, she never got there. 232 00:13:45,767 --> 00:13:47,400 Williams. 233 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:53,266 The police have a solid clue. 234 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:55,732 Joan Schell got into the car with three young men, 235 00:13:55,733 --> 00:13:56,832 one of them wearing 236 00:13:56,833 --> 00:13:59,233 an Eastern Michigan University T-shirt. 237 00:14:01,833 --> 00:14:05,799 So, the police start questioning every male 238 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,832 that they feel is within a certain profile. 239 00:14:09,833 --> 00:14:12,900 I, myself, was even interviewed by the police. 240 00:14:20,533 --> 00:14:23,366 How are you today? All right. 241 00:14:23,367 --> 00:14:24,799 You drive a red car? 242 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,300 I don't even own a car. 243 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:30,199 Where were you at? 244 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,332 My Uncle's a cop. 245 00:14:31,333 --> 00:14:32,499 He can vouch for me. 246 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:33,500 Did you pick her up? 247 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:34,333 No. 248 00:14:34,334 --> 00:14:36,299 How do you know Joan Schell? 249 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:37,333 I don't know her. 250 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,699 But no one had any information -- 251 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:45,566 not a single one of those E.M.U. Boys 252 00:14:45,567 --> 00:14:48,366 said that they knew anything about Joan Schell. 253 00:14:48,367 --> 00:14:50,366 And so they talked to her friends, 254 00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:51,667 they talked to her family. 255 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,499 She had this boyfriend 256 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:00,932 that her family was not super fond of. 257 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:02,132 They thought it was like a little bit 258 00:15:02,133 --> 00:15:03,500 of an obsessive, young romance. 259 00:15:06,133 --> 00:15:08,799 You know why you're here today, Mr. Schultz? 260 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,767 Because I'm AWOL. 261 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,167 Anything else? 262 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,667 And Joan? 263 00:15:26,067 --> 00:15:29,399 Dale was AWOL from the military. 264 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,599 The police found him three days after they found Joan's body. 265 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,866 He had been looking for her himself, he said. 266 00:15:38,867 --> 00:15:41,532 Do you know where the last place you saw her was? 267 00:15:41,533 --> 00:15:43,966 She was at my house three weeks ago. 268 00:15:43,967 --> 00:15:45,900 What are you talking about? 269 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:52,833 He was interrogated and given several polygraph tests. 270 00:15:54,433 --> 00:15:56,700 What if I told you we found a body? 271 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:10,066 When they told him Joan was dead, 272 00:16:10,067 --> 00:16:12,966 he was described as kind of just dissolving into tears. 273 00:16:12,967 --> 00:16:17,633 Very quickly they realized that he was not responsible. 274 00:16:30,933 --> 00:16:33,599 This point, it was a complete and utter mystery 275 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,332 what was going on. 276 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:38,199 {\an8}We have two students around the same age, 277 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,066 {\an8}but nobody at that point 278 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:42,767 {\an8}is doing any kind of linkage analysis. 279 00:16:44,233 --> 00:16:45,832 And the police officers 280 00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:48,866 are not even aware of each other's cases. 281 00:16:48,867 --> 00:16:52,266 Joan is found in a completely different jurisdiction 282 00:16:52,267 --> 00:16:54,699 than Mary. 283 00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:56,133 And the connection isn't made. 284 00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:01,199 It's easy to look back now and to criticize, 285 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,899 but the police were doing everything they knew how to do. 286 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,599 They were going by the book. 287 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,732 The problem was that the monster 288 00:17:08,733 --> 00:17:11,332 was writing a new book with different rules. 289 00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:14,532 They did not really have a category 290 00:17:14,533 --> 00:17:16,733 for serial killer at the time. 291 00:17:19,933 --> 00:17:24,499 This was a pre- "Silence of the Lambs" era. 292 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:28,700 The term "serial killer" had not captured the public imagination. 293 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:37,366 In March 1969, a third murder victim... 294 00:17:37,367 --> 00:17:39,132 A third jurisdiction... 295 00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:41,566 A third set of new detectives. 296 00:17:41,567 --> 00:17:45,067 Four days after that, another body showed up. 297 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:48,666 We were up against a wall. 298 00:17:48,667 --> 00:17:50,832 Like there was nothing -- nothing to go on. 299 00:17:50,833 --> 00:17:54,066 {\an8}We kept telling students, "Don't hitchhike. 300 00:17:54,067 --> 00:17:56,566 {\an8}Please don't hitchhike. Walk in pairs." 301 00:17:56,567 --> 00:18:00,332 We have, like, this supernatural creature in our midst 302 00:18:00,333 --> 00:18:02,800 who can kill these girls and not be seen. 303 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,766 What is happening to our daughters? 304 00:18:17,767 --> 00:18:19,599 What is happening to our babysitters, 305 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,832 our college students? 306 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:22,533 What is happening to these young women? 307 00:18:24,933 --> 00:18:26,666 It was terrifying. 308 00:18:26,667 --> 00:18:29,732 And then to add, you know, fuel to the fire, 309 00:18:29,733 --> 00:18:31,533 we had the public pressure. 310 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,966 {\an8}We're police officers, we're not miracle men, 311 00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:37,432 {\an8}and we can only work with what we've got, 312 00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:38,899 {\an8}and when we get out to a scene 313 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,766 {\an8}and find nothing but a dead body, 314 00:18:40,767 --> 00:18:42,466 {\an8}and then start working from there, 315 00:18:42,467 --> 00:18:44,066 {\an8}it's just not that easy. 316 00:18:44,067 --> 00:18:46,732 And we're afraid, you know, we might be the next one. 317 00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:49,067 You never know. 318 00:18:57,367 --> 00:19:00,866 Now, we've got four young women, 319 00:19:00,867 --> 00:19:04,399 all of whom were either hitchhiking 320 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,066 or walking or out alone in some way, 321 00:19:07,067 --> 00:19:08,867 who now are dead. 322 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,666 And now, they're beginning to say, 323 00:19:13,667 --> 00:19:16,133 "This could be the same person." 324 00:19:17,767 --> 00:19:20,466 But glimpsing a pattern is one thing. 325 00:19:20,467 --> 00:19:23,066 Being able to make out the big picture is another. 326 00:19:23,067 --> 00:19:26,432 And in 1969, the police had no training, 327 00:19:26,433 --> 00:19:28,366 no experience that would prepare them 328 00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:30,432 to make sense of what was in front of them. 329 00:19:30,433 --> 00:19:35,299 DNA testing was 20 years ahead in the future. 330 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:38,232 Hair, fiber, blood evidence 331 00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:42,066 was only good to a point. 332 00:19:42,067 --> 00:19:45,466 There just wasn't the ability to quickly exchange information. 333 00:19:45,467 --> 00:19:48,899 If you wanted to go look at someone else's evidence, 334 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:51,432 you had to get in a car, go to the place, 335 00:19:51,433 --> 00:19:54,066 sort through the box. 336 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:57,332 As far as files went, there was cards, 337 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:59,532 and it was put into a file cabinet. 338 00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:01,466 You know, we didn't have the deal 339 00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:04,433 where we could go into a database. 340 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:16,166 They told themselves my friend Mary's murder 341 00:20:16,167 --> 00:20:18,266 would be the only one, 342 00:20:18,267 --> 00:20:21,599 but now they knew she was just the appetizer. 343 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,967 Now four girls were dead. 344 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:29,632 The monster had come to Michigan 18 months ago, 345 00:20:29,633 --> 00:20:33,066 and he'd taken up residence here. 346 00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:35,099 But until the police could find him, 347 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,000 he would make himself at home and do what he pleased. 348 00:20:54,967 --> 00:20:57,399 It was 1969, 349 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,132 but for me, it wouldn't be the Summer of Love. 350 00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:02,367 It was the Season of Death. 351 00:21:04,833 --> 00:21:06,866 Four young coeds had been murdered 352 00:21:06,867 --> 00:21:08,799 in my Michigan college town. 353 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,866 And then there were five. 354 00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:16,066 {\an8}In March 1969, another body turns up. 355 00:21:16,067 --> 00:21:18,100 {\an8}This time, it's a teenager. 356 00:21:19,733 --> 00:21:25,599 Dawn Basom's body is found by a man driving to work. 357 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,932 She's right at the edge of the road where anybody could see her. 358 00:21:27,933 --> 00:21:29,366 {\an8}So, it's pretty clear 359 00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:31,799 {\an8}that this person's feeling pretty immune. 360 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,866 {\an8}"I'm doing this exactly right, 361 00:21:33,867 --> 00:21:37,833 {\an8}and I can keep doing it for as much as I want." 362 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:59,233 Sheriff Harvey's the first one on the spot. 363 00:22:02,067 --> 00:22:05,132 {\an8}We found her beaten about the face. 364 00:22:05,133 --> 00:22:08,932 {\an8}There was slashes on her breast, slashes on her stomach. 365 00:22:08,933 --> 00:22:12,199 It's one thing to find a body that was killed 366 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,499 because of a gunshot wound, 367 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,166 but the mutilation of these bodies was just -- 368 00:22:16,167 --> 00:22:17,466 it was gruesome. 369 00:22:17,467 --> 00:22:19,066 It was devastating for all of us. 370 00:22:19,067 --> 00:22:22,832 The girl was strangled with a 37-inch length 371 00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:25,599 of double-insulated electrical cord. 372 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,299 I want you guys to go up this road, both sides, 373 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:29,432 about a mile up. 374 00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:30,499 His men come in, 375 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,499 they call in the State Police Crime Lab, 376 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,067 and they go to work. 377 00:22:44,467 --> 00:22:46,867 {\an8}And they go further and further and further afield... 378 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:53,800 {\an8}...until they come upon an abandoned farmhouse. 379 00:23:13,067 --> 00:23:16,732 The barn was 30x40 feet 380 00:23:16,733 --> 00:23:19,067 and it had a basement. 381 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,500 Looks like we got some blood. 382 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:46,732 They also find a piece of an electrical cord, 383 00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:48,466 and it matches the electrical cord 384 00:23:48,467 --> 00:23:50,332 that was used to strangle Dawn. 385 00:23:50,333 --> 00:23:54,866 So they were very, very sure that, for the first time, 386 00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:56,233 they had a murder site. 387 00:23:57,733 --> 00:24:01,199 So finally, police have a place that actually has evidence, 388 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,532 but it turns out that this break in the case 389 00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:06,100 lasts only two weeks. 390 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,732 The house was set on fire -- burned it down. 391 00:24:15,733 --> 00:24:19,232 Their only evidence literally went up in smoke. 392 00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:22,066 The papers said that the police had been watching the farmhouse 393 00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:23,832 from the moment they discovered it, 394 00:24:23,833 --> 00:24:27,332 and they couldn't figure out who could've gotten past them. 395 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,766 And what they found in the smoldering mess 396 00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:32,166 was just chilling. 397 00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:34,833 So, what do you make of this? 398 00:24:40,567 --> 00:24:46,799 Somebody had laid five lilac blossoms on the driveway, 399 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,199 trying to say, "I've gotten five now, 400 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,899 and here's some flowers to designate each one." 401 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,932 The killer was taunting them 402 00:24:54,933 --> 00:24:57,866 to just sort of play this cat-and-mouse game. 403 00:24:57,867 --> 00:25:00,466 You know that last-straw feeling? 404 00:25:00,467 --> 00:25:02,132 When you look back and you see 405 00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:04,932 how completely out of control things have gotten, 406 00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:08,366 and you realize it's time to grab the reins? 407 00:25:08,367 --> 00:25:10,132 That was this. 408 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:13,267 I says, "No, we're not gonna tolerate this." 409 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:27,266 All right gentlemen. 410 00:25:27,267 --> 00:25:29,699 Let's bring it down a little bit, okay? 411 00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:32,366 I know we've all got stuff on our mind, but it's not a social event. 412 00:25:32,367 --> 00:25:34,199 We got to take care of business here. 413 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,632 All right, so the governor has seen fit 414 00:25:36,633 --> 00:25:38,466 to set us up with this little clubhouse, 415 00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:40,932 and my intentions are to make sure it works out. 416 00:25:40,933 --> 00:25:44,066 The police rented a vacant seminary, 417 00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,499 and that was their command center. 418 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,632 We've got a lot of different bits of information here, 419 00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:51,132 a lot of different resources. 420 00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:52,399 And at that point, 421 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,366 everything went through that center. 422 00:25:54,367 --> 00:25:56,066 So, we've got the four here clustered. 423 00:25:56,067 --> 00:25:57,266 Most of them, as you said, 424 00:25:57,267 --> 00:25:58,966 are closer to the E.M.U. Campus. 425 00:25:58,967 --> 00:26:02,866 We definitely have one now -- South Pioneer. 426 00:26:02,867 --> 00:26:05,566 Now the police are working in coordination 427 00:26:05,567 --> 00:26:09,266 between the City Police, the Sheriff's Department, 428 00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:11,832 and the Michigan State Police. 429 00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:14,299 Each officer was following different leads, 430 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:15,332 but they would come back, 431 00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:17,166 and then they would talk about it. 432 00:26:17,167 --> 00:26:19,699 "Here's what we got." "Here's what we found out." 433 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:21,200 "This looks significant." 434 00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:34,066 But you know how it is when you're young. 435 00:26:34,067 --> 00:26:35,766 You think you're invincible. 436 00:26:35,767 --> 00:26:39,066 Even as my friends and I scared each other 437 00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:41,232 with every new detail we heard on the news, 438 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:44,732 we kept taking walks, going on dates, being girls. 439 00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:47,500 Karen Sue Beineman was no different. 440 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,566 Who knows about this? 441 00:27:18,567 --> 00:27:19,433 Nobody. 442 00:27:19,434 --> 00:27:20,732 Nobody? 443 00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:21,866 So, working with 444 00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:24,132 all the different police departments, 445 00:27:24,133 --> 00:27:25,832 they come up with a theory 446 00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:29,099 that criminals come back to the scene of the crime. 447 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:30,799 There has been evidence 448 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,567 in a couple of the murders that this has happened. 449 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:43,399 And they decide this might be an opportunity 450 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,466 to trap the killer. 451 00:27:45,467 --> 00:27:48,232 None of the officers are allowed to talk about it on the radio. 452 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:50,399 They'd get just a few police officers 453 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,332 to respond to the scene. 454 00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:53,799 The man who found the body -- 455 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,699 they swear him to silence and to not tell anyone. 456 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:58,899 And they decide that they were 457 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:02,166 going to go to J.C. Penney at the Arborland Mall... 458 00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:03,932 You got it guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 459 00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:06,533 ...and borrow a mannequin. 460 00:28:38,433 --> 00:28:40,466 We had our men staked out. 461 00:28:40,467 --> 00:28:41,966 The State Police, Sheriff Department -- 462 00:28:41,967 --> 00:28:43,767 we had them staked out around the area. 463 00:28:47,233 --> 00:28:53,300 There were seven or eight people strategically placed. 464 00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:14,132 So around midnight or so, 465 00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:16,666 a lone jogger comes running down the street -- 466 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,599 walked over to the body. 467 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,099 I see someone. 468 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,332 Permission to move? 469 00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:22,432 Come again? 470 00:29:22,433 --> 00:29:23,900 Permission to move? 471 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:26,667 Permission to move? 472 00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:46,599 I see someone. 473 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,632 Permission to move? 474 00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:48,799 Come again? 475 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,067 Permission to move? 476 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:03,132 {\an8}There was no communication. 477 00:30:03,133 --> 00:30:04,966 {\an8}There was no chase car. There was nothing. 478 00:30:04,967 --> 00:30:08,566 {\an8}And he disappeared. He was nowhere. 479 00:30:08,567 --> 00:30:11,932 {\an8}This killer of six women 480 00:30:11,933 --> 00:30:14,766 {\an8}was just right within their grasp, 481 00:30:14,767 --> 00:30:16,499 {\an8}and he got away. 482 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,232 {\an8}The press printed the story. 483 00:30:19,233 --> 00:30:21,299 {\an8}Boy, they blasted us. 484 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,832 {\an8}"The Keystone cops screw up." 485 00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:25,200 {\an8}It was terrible. 486 00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:31,999 The police discovered that the body in the gully 487 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,999 was Karen Sue Beineman, 488 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,700 an E.M.U. Student who had been missing for four days. 489 00:30:41,733 --> 00:30:46,467 She was last seen getting onto a motorcycle with a young man. 490 00:30:49,233 --> 00:30:52,299 So, I understand a young lady came by your shop the other day. 491 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,799 Short brown hair, very slim. 492 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,332 Yes, yes! She's about 5'6". 493 00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:57,867 Yes, she came in. 494 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:01,599 So, what do you think? 495 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,066 I think it's a little dark. 496 00:31:03,067 --> 00:31:04,599 Yeah? Try this one. 497 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,866 Okay. 498 00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:08,132 It's a lovely day. 499 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,899 Karen is walking to pick up a wig 500 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:13,666 at a shop called Wigs by Joan. 501 00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:15,132 I'll take it. Okay. 502 00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:16,466 Wrap it up? No, no, no. 503 00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:18,232 I have somebody waiting for me outside. 504 00:31:18,233 --> 00:31:20,566 Making small talk with the shop owner, 505 00:31:20,567 --> 00:31:22,132 she says, "I've done two things today 506 00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:23,466 that I've never done before." 507 00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:24,632 I'm buying this wig, 508 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:26,666 and I'm riding on a motorcycle 509 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,333 with this guy that I just met. 510 00:31:29,967 --> 00:31:31,232 The two women in the shop -- 511 00:31:31,233 --> 00:31:34,499 their hair just went up on the back of their necks. 512 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:36,366 You shouldn't get on that motorcycle. 513 00:31:36,367 --> 00:31:37,367 No, this guy -- 514 00:31:37,368 --> 00:31:39,532 he seems really nice, believe me. 515 00:31:39,533 --> 00:31:41,732 Did you happen to get a good look at him? 516 00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:45,532 I saw him over there. 517 00:31:45,533 --> 00:31:48,167 And she got on the motorcycle with him. 518 00:31:56,067 --> 00:31:58,599 Both of the women have pretty good memories, 519 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,466 and they remember what he looked like. 520 00:32:00,467 --> 00:32:02,966 Young, good-looking. 521 00:32:02,967 --> 00:32:05,333 Not hippy-type -- well-groomed. 522 00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:13,066 {\an8}He doesn't at all look like the fiend or the monster 523 00:32:13,067 --> 00:32:17,066 {\an8}that had started to live large in the public's consciousness. 524 00:32:17,067 --> 00:32:20,066 He just looked like the boy next door. 525 00:32:20,067 --> 00:32:22,766 He was the boy in my Psych class. 526 00:32:22,767 --> 00:32:25,066 He was the football player down the hall. 527 00:32:25,067 --> 00:32:28,432 He was the frat brother who escorted me home at night. 528 00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:32,966 He was everybody and nobody. 529 00:32:32,967 --> 00:32:38,200 I thought, "How in God's name are they gonna find him?" 530 00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:43,632 They're looking through everyone in this area 531 00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:44,932 who has a motorcycle, 532 00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:47,666 who's a tall, dark-haired guy around the same age. 533 00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:49,067 They're going through all of them. 534 00:32:50,633 --> 00:32:53,832 {\an8}I was with the Eastern Michigan University Police Force, 535 00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:56,099 {\an8}and I had to get the license plate numbers. 536 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,266 {\an8}That was the directive -- 537 00:32:57,267 --> 00:32:59,333 {\an8}to get everybody's license plates. 538 00:33:02,833 --> 00:33:04,266 Hiya. Hey. 539 00:33:04,267 --> 00:33:05,466 How are you? I'm Officer Mathewson. 540 00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:06,666 I'm over at the University. 541 00:33:06,667 --> 00:33:08,099 Sorry. 542 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,499 Any friends of yours ride a bike 543 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:10,799 who happen to know Karen Sue Beineman 544 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,866 by any chance? 545 00:33:11,867 --> 00:33:14,499 No, I don't know who Karen Sue is. 546 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:15,832 Okay. 547 00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,066 Do you recognize this gentleman, by any chance? 548 00:33:18,067 --> 00:33:19,433 Nah, I don't know him. 549 00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:24,299 And, he says, "No, 550 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,900 I've been here all the time, working on my bikes." 551 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:30,966 The one thing there 552 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:34,266 that really triggered my thought process was 553 00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:39,066 his plate was creased underneath those two bolts, 554 00:33:39,067 --> 00:33:42,466 as if you didn't want someone to be able to read your plate, 555 00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:45,332 you would pull it up parallel to the ground. 556 00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:46,832 What are you doing? 557 00:33:46,833 --> 00:33:48,532 I'm just taking down your license plate number. 558 00:33:48,533 --> 00:33:50,199 And then it got, like, 559 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,699 "I think it's time to leave" -- 560 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,900 that I've outstayed my welcome. 561 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,266 He thought that the composite sketch 562 00:33:59,267 --> 00:34:00,832 looked just like him. 563 00:34:00,833 --> 00:34:02,332 I knew he was a student. 564 00:34:02,333 --> 00:34:05,499 I've played inter-fraternity sports against him. 565 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,832 I went to the fraternity house, 566 00:34:06,833 --> 00:34:08,966 talked to a couple of guys there that I knew, 567 00:34:08,967 --> 00:34:10,632 and they told me his name. 568 00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:14,232 So, he visited a former girlfriend 569 00:34:14,233 --> 00:34:17,367 and asked if she could give him a picture. 570 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,532 So I had the picture, 571 00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:24,500 and I knew that she was at a wig shop. 572 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,599 Well, I'm not real sure. 573 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,733 I didn't see him from the front like this. 574 00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,300 That's him. 575 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:52,532 That's really him. 576 00:34:52,533 --> 00:34:55,899 Two years and seven dead girls. 577 00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:58,799 All that time, the monster had been just a shadow. 578 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,732 Now, they had something real. 579 00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:02,799 It wasn't everything, it wasn't proof, 580 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,432 but it was something. 581 00:35:04,433 --> 00:35:08,300 His name was John Norman Collins. 582 00:35:10,267 --> 00:35:13,066 Okay, what am I looking at? 583 00:35:13,067 --> 00:35:14,599 Well, it's hair. 584 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,466 All right. 585 00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:17,766 It's not her hair. 586 00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:21,599 As it turns out, they actually have a clue. 587 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,399 And they find a pair of Karen Sue's panties 588 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,799 inside of her. 589 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,466 There's also pieces of hair attached. 590 00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:29,932 But it's not just regular hair, 591 00:35:29,933 --> 00:35:31,799 it's hair as if from a barber shop. 592 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,266 It's hair that's been cut. 593 00:35:33,267 --> 00:35:35,499 It wasn't Karen's hair. 594 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,499 It wasn't artificial hair like from a wig. 595 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:39,067 It was someone else's hair. 596 00:35:44,567 --> 00:35:47,132 It had been almost two years since my friend, Mary, 597 00:35:47,133 --> 00:35:50,067 had died at the hands of this monster. 598 00:35:52,267 --> 00:35:56,767 He had taken six other girls and remained in the shadows... 599 00:35:58,833 --> 00:36:01,633 ...until now. 600 00:36:10,267 --> 00:36:12,632 Michigan Police. 601 00:36:12,633 --> 00:36:15,699 Police start to pick apart John Norman Collins' life. 602 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:18,632 They talk to his roommates. They talk to his family. 603 00:36:18,633 --> 00:36:21,066 They talk to his ex-girlfriends. 604 00:36:21,067 --> 00:36:23,466 What they discover is a success story. 605 00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:26,632 John Norman Collins is a student at Eastern Michigan University 606 00:36:26,633 --> 00:36:29,632 and he's studying to be an elementary-school teacher. 607 00:36:29,633 --> 00:36:31,699 And he's outgoing, he's personable, 608 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:32,899 and he has a lot of friends. 609 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,766 Good to see you, Leik. Hi, detective. 610 00:36:34,767 --> 00:36:36,066 Good to see you. Thank you. 611 00:36:36,067 --> 00:36:37,932 And he had an uncle 612 00:36:37,933 --> 00:36:41,732 at the Ypsilanti State Police Post, Sergeant Leik. 613 00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:44,966 A lot of things happened all at once. 614 00:36:44,967 --> 00:36:46,899 David Leik comes home from vacation, 615 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:48,966 at the same time that that composite 616 00:36:48,967 --> 00:36:51,466 is making the rounds within the police. 617 00:36:51,467 --> 00:36:52,866 Hi, Connor. 618 00:36:52,867 --> 00:36:55,499 I see they've got a sketch on this guy already? 619 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:59,132 A fellow policeman reaches out to David Leik 620 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:02,866 and tells him that John Collins is a suspect. 621 00:37:02,867 --> 00:37:05,132 My nephew, John Collins? 622 00:37:05,133 --> 00:37:07,500 Yes. 623 00:37:08,667 --> 00:37:11,366 Leik started thinking, "That's interesting." 624 00:37:11,367 --> 00:37:14,532 While he was on vacation, his nephew, John Collins, 625 00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:17,933 has been looking after their dog and taking care of the house. 626 00:37:18,367 --> 00:37:20,699 David? 627 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:22,066 Yeah? 628 00:37:22,067 --> 00:37:24,167 What's on the floor down here? 629 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,866 When he come home and went down to the basement, 630 00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:31,232 he says there was something wrong. 631 00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:35,099 What the heck is that? It looks like it's paint or something. 632 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,066 There's these spots of black paint 633 00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:39,233 on the floor and kind of up on the wall. 634 00:37:41,633 --> 00:37:43,732 Seven women are murdered. 635 00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:45,799 He knows the killer is at large, 636 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,767 and it doesn't sit right with him. 637 00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:52,966 Right here are the spots I was talking about. 638 00:37:52,967 --> 00:37:56,699 And so the crime lab came down immediately to the basement. 639 00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:00,066 David's there, I believe it's two other technicians, 640 00:38:00,067 --> 00:38:02,067 and they go to work on the black paint. 641 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,632 And they drop it into this liquid which, 642 00:38:06,633 --> 00:38:08,767 if it's human blood, will turn blue-green. 643 00:38:13,367 --> 00:38:14,967 Well, it's not blood. 644 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,199 Thanks for coming out. I'm sorry. 645 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,500 And they're packing up to go... 646 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,299 ...and as they go, 647 00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:34,466 one of them happens to look down and spot something 648 00:38:34,467 --> 00:38:35,832 and freezes, 649 00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:39,066 gets down on his hands and knees... 650 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:42,567 What a second, guys. 651 00:38:53,233 --> 00:38:54,866 Wait a second, guys. 652 00:38:54,867 --> 00:38:57,232 What do you got? 653 00:38:57,233 --> 00:38:59,366 {\an8}By the washing machine, there was some hair. 654 00:38:59,367 --> 00:39:03,132 {\an8}David Leik's wife had cut her two sons' hair 655 00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:05,166 {\an8}down there under the light in the basement. 656 00:39:05,167 --> 00:39:10,066 And, right away, this technician recognizes the hair 657 00:39:10,067 --> 00:39:13,400 that was found on the torn underwear of Karen Sue. 658 00:39:15,167 --> 00:39:18,766 They did a visual inspection under a microscope. 659 00:39:18,767 --> 00:39:22,233 The hairs looked exactly alike. 660 00:39:24,267 --> 00:39:26,667 And they also search his car. 661 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,599 {\an8}And what they find in his car are drops of blood, 662 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,199 {\an8}a button, and pieces of fabric. 663 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,966 They found hair and some flesh -- 664 00:39:48,967 --> 00:39:52,733 some scalp evidence -- in the trunk of his car. 665 00:40:08,433 --> 00:40:13,332 We want to announce that one John Norman Collins, 666 00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:17,366 age 23, of 619 Emmet Street, Ypsilanti, 667 00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:19,132 has been arrested and charged 668 00:40:19,133 --> 00:40:21,900 with the murder of Karen Sue Beineman. 669 00:40:31,567 --> 00:40:36,766 And the trial started, and we waited the entire summer. 670 00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:39,166 And finally, people had what they wanted, 671 00:40:39,167 --> 00:40:41,233 and it was guilty. 672 00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:46,399 They gave him a life sentence. 673 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,199 We're all familiar 674 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,399 with convicted people who like to talk, 675 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,566 and John Norman Collins is not one of them. 676 00:40:53,567 --> 00:40:55,299 He says very little. 677 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,433 And that silence continues to taunt. 678 00:41:00,633 --> 00:41:04,699 And that kind of adds to the eeriness, I think, of the case. 679 00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:08,167 We have our who, but not our why. 680 00:41:11,533 --> 00:41:13,199 And believe me when I tell you, 681 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,232 silence is more agonizing than any scream. 682 00:41:16,233 --> 00:41:19,066 After 40 years, I still want to know... 683 00:41:19,067 --> 00:41:23,666 Why my friend? Why Mary? 684 00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:28,066 This is a guy who was hours away from graduating. 685 00:41:28,067 --> 00:41:30,166 It became clear you didn't have to be living 686 00:41:30,167 --> 00:41:32,299 in this kind of teeming metropolis 687 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:34,766 with a lot of crime for this to happen. 688 00:41:34,767 --> 00:41:38,299 You could be living in a small town in the Midwest, 689 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,333 and you could still be the victim of a sociopath. 690 00:41:45,467 --> 00:41:47,932 {\an8}He's a good-looking, all-American boy. 691 00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:50,899 {\an8}Who would've ever suspected him? 692 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,066 I ran across a lot of people who met him. 693 00:41:54,067 --> 00:41:58,699 I ran across a nurse, just last month, and she says, 694 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:01,432 "I met John. I was 16 at that time. 695 00:42:01,433 --> 00:42:04,566 And he wanted me to go for a ride on his motorcycle." 696 00:42:04,567 --> 00:42:06,466 She says, "Consequently, I didn't go." 697 00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:08,900 I says, "Yeah, you're alive today." 698 00:42:11,633 --> 00:42:14,066 In those days, everybody trusted everybody, 699 00:42:14,067 --> 00:42:16,600 unfortunately. 700 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:24,400 Williams. 701 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,499 You'd like to think that you can always tell 702 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,799 the monsters from the men, 703 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,299 but I learned early on that often, you can't. 704 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,766 Some of them are impossible to spot, 705 00:42:35,767 --> 00:42:38,666 even when they are right in front of you, 706 00:42:38,667 --> 00:42:41,200 and have been all along. 707 00:42:44,667 --> 00:42:45,600 Where were you at? 708 00:42:45,601 --> 00:42:46,799 My uncle's a cop. 709 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,100 He can vouch for me. 53181

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