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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,830 --> 00:00:04,250 [♪] 2 00:00:04,290 --> 00:00:05,670 [Jason Priestley] When 90210 hit, 3 00:00:05,710 --> 00:00:08,920 it was a life-changing event. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,470 [crowd clamoring, cameras snapping] 5 00:00:10,510 --> 00:00:11,840 [♪] 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,550 [Priestley] But anytime you’re a teen heartthrob... 7 00:00:13,590 --> 00:00:15,760 [teens screaming] 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,010 ...everyone just assumes 9 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:19,520 that you can’t be that good of an actor, 10 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,810 and you’re just a good-looking kid... 11 00:00:20,850 --> 00:00:23,810 [♪] 12 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:26,770 [teens screaming] 13 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:29,570 [news reporter] Look familiar? 14 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:32,030 Teenage frenzy as old as your Elvis records, 15 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:34,110 but this is 1992, 16 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,990 and these girls are here to see Luke Perry. 17 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:39,700 [teens screaming, cameras clicking] 18 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:43,040 [Priestley] ...but I think Luke understood the importance 19 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,540 of letting the world know 20 00:00:44,580 --> 00:00:47,590 that he was more than just this Dylan McKay character 21 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:49,800 that all the teenage girls had posters of 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,760 up in their bedroom. 23 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,920 [teens screaming] 24 00:00:52,970 --> 00:00:54,090 [news reporter] Luke Perry 25 00:00:54,130 --> 00:00:55,390 has signed a lot of autographs lately 26 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:58,310 thanks to Beverly Hills 90210. 27 00:00:58,350 --> 00:00:59,640 About a year ago, 28 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,850 the teen drama turned this little-known actor 29 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:04,730 into Hollywood’s latest idol. 30 00:01:05,770 --> 00:01:08,070 [Kristy Swanson] There was a time when I was in my trailer, 31 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:10,730 and I heard a bunch of screaming, 32 00:01:10,780 --> 00:01:11,900 like, high squeals. 33 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:13,110 Like-- 34 00:01:13,150 --> 00:01:14,030 [teens screaming] There’s Luke Perry! 35 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:14,950 There’s Luke Perry, oh my god! 36 00:01:14,990 --> 00:01:16,280 [screaming] 37 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,080 They were screaming like The Beatles were there, 38 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,120 you know what I mean? 39 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,740 It was just-- It was wild. 40 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:21,830 [teens screaming] 41 00:01:21,870 --> 00:01:23,460 [♪] 42 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,870 I think Luke had tons of celebrity problems. 43 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,040 I don’t have those problems. 44 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,250 [news reporter] This is a moment 45 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:30,460 more than 7,000 teenagers waited for, 46 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,090 but the excitement was uncontrollable. 47 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:36,930 You catch yourself wanting those problems, you know, 48 00:01:36,970 --> 00:01:38,470 but you don’t want those problems. 49 00:01:40,060 --> 00:01:41,140 [Dean Winters] I think, at the time, 50 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:43,060 Brad Pitt and DiCaprio were coming up, 51 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:44,730 but they weren’t-- they weren’t Luke Perry, 52 00:01:44,770 --> 00:01:46,140 do you know what I mean? 53 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:47,600 I mean, he was probably the biggest actor on the planet. 54 00:01:47,650 --> 00:01:49,820 [crowd screaming] 55 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:51,480 [Marisol Nichols] Luke was iconic. 56 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,110 He really was, I mean, he was "Luke Perry." 57 00:01:54,150 --> 00:01:55,320 [crowd shouting] 58 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,200 [Nichols] With his amount of fame, 59 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,280 you could phone it in, 60 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,240 but Luke never phoned it in, 61 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,160 ever. 62 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:05,500 [Luke Perry] I always thought that I would succeed somehow, 63 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:06,960 but you don’t... 64 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,290 Well, you don’t think it’s going to be like this. 65 00:02:08,330 --> 00:02:09,750 I mean, I certainly didn’t think 66 00:02:09,790 --> 00:02:10,710 it was gonna be like this. 67 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:12,300 [♪] 68 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:13,960 [Stephen Baldwin] Certain actors, 69 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:16,010 when they get that stigma 70 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:18,130 of "handsome" and "good looks", 71 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:21,050 they’ll go and do performances 72 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:22,760 to get around that, prove themselves, 73 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:23,930 but more importantly, 74 00:02:23,970 --> 00:02:27,560 satisfy their own artistic motivations, 75 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,600 so... 76 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:32,150 that’s my favorite part of knowing Luke, 77 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:33,440 and having been friends with him, 78 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,240 was that he was that "real deal" as an actor. 79 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,240 [Winters] As an actor, I learned from Luke. 80 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,990 I was doing a show called Oz, 81 00:02:42,030 --> 00:02:44,490 and Luke was the character Jeremiah Cloutier, 82 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:47,830 and I remember he was a pro at stillness, 83 00:02:47,870 --> 00:02:50,210 and film and television acting 84 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,670 is about being still. 85 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:54,500 [Timothy Olyphant] My experience working with Luke 86 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:58,090 was he didn’t seem like a huge celebrity. 87 00:02:58,130 --> 00:03:00,180 He just seemed like a working actor, 88 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:01,510 and I mean that in the best way. 89 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:04,470 [Perry] If I’m the flash-in-the-pan, 90 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:06,810 or all that everyone tells you you’re gonna be, 91 00:03:06,850 --> 00:03:08,020 maybe so, 92 00:03:08,060 --> 00:03:09,350 but I’ll go down fighting. 93 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:13,860 Luke had a lot of creative drive inside him, 94 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,030 and he wanted to do... more. 95 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:18,240 He wanted to do more. 96 00:03:21,450 --> 00:03:24,830 [♪] 97 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:37,630 [Margaret Wappler] Luke was raised 98 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:40,300 by his mom and his stepfather in Fredericktown, Ohio, 99 00:03:40,340 --> 00:03:41,890 and it’s just this little farming town. 100 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,720 It’s only about 2,500 people. 101 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,350 I didn’t see my first Porsche until I got to California, 102 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:50,730 so, uh, you know, I wasn’t brought up wealthy. 103 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:51,810 I was brought up well. 104 00:03:51,850 --> 00:03:53,060 [Margaret Wappler] From a young age, 105 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,650 he loved watching TV with his mom, 106 00:03:55,690 --> 00:03:57,230 particularly soap operas-- that was her favorite-- 107 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,900 and then after school, 108 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:00,570 he’d come home, he’d watch TV Westerns, 109 00:04:00,610 --> 00:04:03,700 and he was completely fascinated by the performers. 110 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,290 [cocking gun] That’s right, Lon. 111 00:04:08,330 --> 00:04:10,580 Now, up in here right quick. 112 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:14,420 [Wappler] By the time he was in high school, 113 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:16,590 he knew he wanted to become an actor. 114 00:04:16,630 --> 00:04:17,800 The dream-- 115 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:19,090 it was just completely formed in his mind, 116 00:04:19,130 --> 00:04:20,720 and he would tell, like, 117 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,010 you know, anyone who would listen. 118 00:04:23,050 --> 00:04:24,760 The problem was Fredericktown, 119 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,100 he just wasn’t gonna get far with that dream there, 120 00:04:27,140 --> 00:04:28,970 so when he turned 18, 121 00:04:29,020 --> 00:04:29,970 he picked up, 122 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:31,100 he moved to New York, 123 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:33,140 and he began the grind of auditioning. 124 00:04:38,110 --> 00:04:41,280 [David Sheinkopf] I was in New York, 125 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,280 and I was going out for a movie called Young Guns, 126 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,120 and I met this guy in the casting office, 127 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,120 and it was just-- it was just me and him, 128 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,460 and he had on, like, this- 129 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,040 this, like, kinda cowboy-ish hat, 130 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,960 and, uh, it was Luke. 131 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,300 We kind of, like, traded a couple of stories, 132 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:02,010 and neither of us got the role, 133 00:05:02,050 --> 00:05:03,930 and, you know, we were just, like, 134 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,260 "Hey, you know, we’ll hang out." 135 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:08,680 I booked a job for a show called Another World. 136 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,930 They would pick everybody up in a stretch limo, 137 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:13,690 and I opened the door, 138 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:14,980 and Luke is sitting there... 139 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:16,900 [laughing] and it was, like, 140 00:05:16,940 --> 00:05:17,770 it was perfect. 141 00:05:17,810 --> 00:05:19,150 Originally, 142 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:20,440 the goal was to see myself on a television set, 143 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,860 because I didn’t know if it could be done. 144 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:23,400 Um, so then I saw that, 145 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:24,950 and then I fell in love with acting 146 00:05:24,990 --> 00:05:26,450 somewhere along the way. 147 00:05:26,490 --> 00:05:29,160 I think you’re blaming your mother for your problems. 148 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,200 She is my problem. 149 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,120 -Is she? -Yes. 150 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,160 Or is it Matt? 151 00:05:34,210 --> 00:05:36,080 [Sheinkopf] And his mom absolutely loved soaps, 152 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,540 and she was so proud of him. 153 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:40,170 From then on, we just-- we became friends, 154 00:05:40,210 --> 00:05:43,260 and, um, it was a friendship that lasted for decades. 155 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:48,100 [Wappler] He did two soap operas, 156 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:50,180 Loving, and Another World, 157 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:51,720 and after that, 158 00:05:51,770 --> 00:05:55,690 he decides to go to L.A. for pilot season for 1990. 159 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,160 [Priestley] Back in the old days, 160 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,500 when we actually had a pilot season, 161 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:18,370 it was like going to acting bootcamp for a month, 162 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:22,170 and actors would fly in from all over the country, 163 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:23,670 and we’d all stay at the Oakwood Gardens 164 00:06:23,710 --> 00:06:25,510 on Barham Avenue, 165 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:27,880 so there’d be, like, a million young actors in there, 166 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:29,050 and then, like, you know, 167 00:06:29,090 --> 00:06:31,260 50 freshly divorced Dads. 168 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:33,100 Like, it was really, uh, 169 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:34,390 it was hilarious. 170 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:36,980 If you were a fresh piece of meat in town, 171 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:39,100 that nobody had seen, 172 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,320 it was, like, five auditions a day, 173 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,190 and then you’d come home at the end of the night, 174 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:46,570 and there’d be another stack of scripts, 175 00:06:46,610 --> 00:06:47,860 and so you’d be in there 176 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:49,160 reading, you know, all the scripts every night, 177 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,570 and preparing for the next day, 178 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:51,620 and then, so you’d go out, 179 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,120 and do four or five more auditions, 180 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,790 and it was like that for weeks, after weeks, after weeks. 181 00:06:54,830 --> 00:06:56,750 That part of it is business. 182 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:58,040 Um, the actual performing 183 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,040 and the creating of a character, that’s pleasure, 184 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,790 but the going through the political process 185 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,210 of getting a job, that’s business. 186 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,650 I was on a show in California for a few months, 187 00:07:20,690 --> 00:07:22,730 and Luke called me. 188 00:07:22,770 --> 00:07:24,900 He said, "I’m gonna come out to LA." 189 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:26,690 He’s, like, "Can I crash on your couch?" 190 00:07:26,730 --> 00:07:29,400 and I said, "My couch is yours," 191 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:32,110 and then, uh, he got a place over at the Arquettes. 192 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,740 The Arquettes had a spare room or something, 193 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:37,750 and Luke’s, like, "Hey, man, I found this place. 194 00:07:37,790 --> 00:07:38,910 Do you wanna rent it with me?" 195 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,580 and I was, like, "Absolutely," 196 00:07:40,620 --> 00:07:43,840 and that’s kinda how Mansfield began. 197 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:56,180 Man... 198 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Crazy. 199 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,440 The old--the old palace. 200 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,860 So this was-this was my room, 201 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:10,650 and then right through that door is the bathroom. 202 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:11,950 You can see that little window. 203 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:14,120 That little minute of light, 204 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,490 and then you make a quick left, and that was Luke’s room. 205 00:08:16,530 --> 00:08:17,830 He wanted the back room. 206 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:18,750 He’s, like, "Dude, you can have the bigger room. 207 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:19,700 I just want the back room." 208 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:20,870 I’m, like, "Cool." 209 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:25,330 Uh, while we lived here, 210 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,750 he was working in Diamond Bar, 211 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,630 and he was doing-- he was doing random stuff, 212 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:30,720 ’cause that’s what he knew. 213 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,840 Like, he knew how to do construction, 214 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,510 and he won the coin flip, 215 00:08:35,550 --> 00:08:37,310 so he got the garage, 216 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:39,680 and then, you know, this whole backyard, 217 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,810 it was, you know... 218 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:42,020 and we used to have parties out here, 219 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:46,520 so it was kind of a cool spot, you know? 220 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,360 How long have you lived here? 221 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,940 A little over a year. 222 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:51,190 [Maria Shriver interview] When Perry left New York, 223 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,450 he ended up here, 224 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:54,860 in this rented two-bedroom house in Hollywood. 225 00:08:54,910 --> 00:08:57,030 Not exactly the kind of place you’d find 226 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,870 on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. 227 00:08:58,910 --> 00:09:01,200 [Perry] Wipe your feet. Ha, ha. 228 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:02,460 [Shriver] Yeah, ha, ha. 229 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,460 Who decorated this house, first of all? 230 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:05,540 I decorated this house. 231 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:06,670 You did? 232 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:07,460 Well, I didn’t really decorate it, 233 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,130 but my stuff is in here. 234 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:11,590 This room, I can’t go in, because it’s-- 235 00:09:11,630 --> 00:09:13,970 Not because it’s your bedroom, 236 00:09:14,010 --> 00:09:15,840 but because you’ve got your pig in there, 237 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:17,300 and you won’t let the pig go on camera. 238 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:18,430 Exactly. 239 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:20,350 You’re very protective of your pig. 240 00:09:20,390 --> 00:09:22,060 I certainly am. 241 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,480 Now, why won’t you let your pig go on camera? 242 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,190 It’s not so much my choice. I give him the option. 243 00:09:25,230 --> 00:09:26,730 -It’s the pig’s choice? -Exactly. 244 00:09:26,770 --> 00:09:28,360 I’ve given him the option numerous times 245 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,730 to appear on, you know, talk shows, magazines. 246 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:32,570 He declines. I’m not gonna push it. 247 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:34,860 And you’ve asked him about appearing on this show? 248 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:36,280 He’s got a big thing for you. 249 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,950 The pig is crazy about you, but, you know... 250 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:40,870 He was always tinkering with something, you know? 251 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:42,910 He always had his hands busy. 252 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:44,290 He loved to do things. 253 00:09:44,330 --> 00:09:47,920 We had these old leaf hinges on the-- in the kitchen, 254 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,750 and he ripped them all down, 255 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:53,010 and he, like, was dipping these old hinges 256 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:55,420 into, you know, um, paint thinner. 257 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:56,430 I’m, like, "What are you doing?" 258 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:58,220 He’s, like, "They’re copper," 259 00:09:58,260 --> 00:09:59,260 and I said, "Oh," 260 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:01,970 and then he painted the kitchen grey, 261 00:10:02,020 --> 00:10:05,230 and he did black linoleum on the floor, 262 00:10:05,270 --> 00:10:08,940 and, you know, he, like, made it home, 263 00:10:08,980 --> 00:10:10,820 because that’s what he did, you know? 264 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:12,320 Home was where he made it. 265 00:10:14,190 --> 00:10:16,400 [Perry] I never really felt completely 266 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,490 the place where I lived was where I should be. 267 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:19,950 I always felt-- 268 00:10:19,990 --> 00:10:21,490 I never felt like I was running away from something, 269 00:10:21,530 --> 00:10:23,450 but I did always feel that I was running to something. 270 00:10:26,830 --> 00:10:28,790 [Sheinkopf] I give actors much props, 271 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:31,460 because it’s a hard life. 272 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,880 You take rejection for a living. 273 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,840 For Luke, I don’t think "not making it" 274 00:10:38,890 --> 00:10:40,930 was an option for him. 275 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:45,470 I think he took it on the chin pretty well, you know? 276 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,180 I mean, I think that, you know, 277 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:49,900 going on as many auditions as he did, 278 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:51,060 and not getting them, 279 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:53,320 it just drove him to do more, you know? 280 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,860 You were in it to win it. 281 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:57,570 Last man standing. 282 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,660 [Dianne Young] I was casting the television version 283 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,250 of Ferris Bueller’s Day off, 284 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:10,830 and Luke came in. 285 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 I looked at him and I thought, 286 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:17,510 "You are so not what I’m looking for, for this," 287 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:20,010 and he goes, "I know, I know," 288 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:23,430 he just-- and he said, "But I know who you are, 289 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:25,560 and I wanted to meet you, and if we could..." 290 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,140 and I said, "That’s fine, you know, come in, have a seat," 291 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:31,940 and we sat and we chatted for quite a while 292 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:34,900 about things, and what he wanted to do, 293 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:36,820 and he was very sweet, 294 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:39,530 and I just thought... 295 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:42,950 Sometimes, you get a feeling, and I just thought, "Hmm... 296 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:45,740 I have to remember this guy." 297 00:11:45,790 --> 00:11:49,410 [interviewer] 219 auditions. 298 00:11:49,460 --> 00:11:53,380 I am in awe that you held on 299 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:54,880 and were willing to do it. 300 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,840 Where does it come from? 301 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,890 Well, in all fairness, it was 216, and it... 302 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:05,600 A fear of failure, I guess, you know? 303 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,680 It’s easy to-- 304 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,600 You hear "No" a lot, 305 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,730 but it only means no if you believe it. 306 00:12:11,770 --> 00:12:14,440 Everybody auditioned for that role of his, 307 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,900 everybody, like, you know, 308 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:18,440 they were looking far and wide for that role. 309 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:21,070 [Young] I came in knowing 310 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:23,820 that they were adding a character to 90210, 311 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:26,160 but he was the bad boy. 312 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,910 Chuck told me about the character. 313 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:32,960 The more he talked, the more I thought, "Oh... 314 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,830 I know who this should be." 315 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,260 When the reading was over, 316 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:41,760 I just kind of waited, 317 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,260 and Chuck turned to me and said, "That’s the guy." 318 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:47,100 He was perfect. 319 00:12:47,140 --> 00:12:48,680 There wasn’t anything more 320 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,560 that you could say to Luke at that point, 321 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,310 of how to play the character. 322 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:55,400 He understood it. 323 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,020 There was something raw inside 324 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,900 that he just intuitively got, 325 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:03,820 and Mr. Spelling certainly saw that 326 00:13:03,860 --> 00:13:06,780 at the time that we were doing the audition. 327 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:08,280 When we did the audition 328 00:13:08,330 --> 00:13:12,290 for the Fox Broadcasting company, however, 329 00:13:12,330 --> 00:13:13,830 Luke was nervous, 330 00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:16,000 and it didn’t happen 331 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,340 in the way that we had all hoped it would play. 332 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:21,840 The network didn’t understand 333 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,300 why we were asking for more money 334 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:26,140 to put this character in, 335 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:27,800 and they weren’t gonna go there, 336 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:29,560 and Mr. Spelling, 337 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,810 who often doesn’t volunteer his own wallet for things, 338 00:13:33,850 --> 00:13:36,230 said, "I’ll pay for him," 339 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:38,860 and so, the special bond 340 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,440 that Luke Perry had with Aaron Spelling 341 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,530 was formed in that moment. 342 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,890 [Priestley] So, Luke and I met for the first time-- 343 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:11,850 Chuck Rosin decided to have a table reading 344 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:13,520 for the first episode, 345 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,520 and after the table reading, 346 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:16,850 -Luke and I-- -Hey. 347 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:18,400 --were outside on the porch 348 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,480 in front of Chuck’s house-- 349 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,480 My name’s, uh, Brandon Walsh. 350 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,820 Brandon Walsh... 351 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:25,820 Scotch or Irish? 352 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:29,280 Both, actually, 353 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,780 by way of Minnesota. 354 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,290 Especially in that first episode, 355 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:35,330 it was all about Dylan McKay, the surfing guy, 356 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:36,460 and the surfer, and... 357 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,620 and so, I said to him, I said, 358 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:39,170 "Do you surf, dude?" 359 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:41,670 and he said, "Never surfed a day in my life." 360 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:43,380 I said, "We’re gonna get along just fine," 361 00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:47,260 and, uh, you know, we were just thick as thieves after that. 362 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:56,270 [Chuck Rosin] Why was surf culture important 363 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:59,400 to bring into Dylan’s character in 90210? 364 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,730 I thought it really connected to the spiritual side of Dylan, 365 00:15:02,770 --> 00:15:05,230 and I thought Luke just carried that, 366 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,570 and really picked that up. 367 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:08,950 Surf culture had to be part of the beach culture. 368 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:10,740 If you’re talking Beverly Hills-- 369 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:12,660 This is before we even created anything 370 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:14,910 called the "Beverly Hills Beach Club", 371 00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:18,160 but if you talk about what California has to offer, 372 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:21,960 it’s not its cosmopolitan architecture, 373 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,460 and even though we do have 374 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,630 a lot of really smart people here, 375 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:27,880 it isn’t even our institutional, 376 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,510 or academic, um, connections, 377 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:33,140 it’s our physical beauty. 378 00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:37,230 Our proximity to the desert, the mountains, and the sea. 379 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,560 I don’t know [bleep] about the desert or the mountains, 380 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,940 but I know about the ocean. 381 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,370 So, Luke didn’t join the cast of 90210 382 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:56,540 until the first episode. 383 00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:57,790 He was not in the pilot. 384 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,790 Aaron wanted to add a hunk, 385 00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:03,290 but a guy that was more than just a hunk. 386 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:05,960 Like, a guy who was-- a guy who was complicated. 387 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,340 Dylan McKay pretended to be a tough guy, 388 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:11,550 but was also super sensitive, 389 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:13,180 and would get his feelings hurt, 390 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:16,010 and he was--and he was really trying to, like, 391 00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:19,930 sort out what it was to be a... 392 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:21,730 a responsible human, 393 00:16:21,770 --> 00:16:24,770 because he wasn’t raised by a responsible human. 394 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:28,280 Luke was the perfect guy for that. 395 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,440 He could play it really cool, 396 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:32,030 but then he was also not afraid 397 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,070 to make really bold choices. 398 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,160 I’m an idiot! 399 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,030 Please don’t leave. 400 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,410 You’re scaring me! 401 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,410 I’m sorry. 402 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,460 Dylan, what happened? 403 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:48,250 My dad, he just gets to me. 404 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:50,210 He always gets to me. 405 00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:53,380 I don’t know what I’m supposed to... 406 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,640 Oh! 407 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,600 [♪] 408 00:17:03,270 --> 00:17:04,270 [Rosin] We had finished our first season, 409 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:08,230 and I had a call with the network. 410 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:10,190 Barry Diller, a very particular man, 411 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:13,320 started the meeting by saying, yes, 90210 is working 412 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:17,580 but, uh, does it belong on "our air"? 413 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:19,910 As if-- Because Fox, you know, had attitude, 414 00:17:19,950 --> 00:17:21,200 and did we have enough attitude? 415 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:22,580 [♪] 416 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:24,080 [Wappler] So, when the show first starts, you know, 417 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,960 it’s a non-union production. 418 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Nobody really cares about it. 419 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:28,340 Like, it’s just happening 420 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:30,590 and, you know, maybe it’ll land, maybe it won’t. 421 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:33,550 Fox was a fledgling network at that point, 422 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:35,380 and Mr. Murdoch, 423 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:37,430 with the Fox Broadcasting Service, 424 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:40,260 had just bought the satellite in China, 425 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:43,230 and so, he needed to put his money there, 426 00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:44,480 and they didn’t-- 427 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Fox Broadcasting really just didn’t have enough 428 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,810 to make a TV show right at that moment 429 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:50,190 to replace us, 430 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:53,570 and then what happens is the Gulf War breaks out. 431 00:17:53,610 --> 00:17:55,780 We do not need another Hitler. 432 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:59,780 [Rosin] The networks immediately suspend 433 00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:02,870 all their commercial activity to cover the war. 434 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:04,330 Fox, and this is hard to believe, 435 00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:06,920 did not have a news department, 436 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,460 and so, they had no choice 437 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,880 but just to run what they had. 438 00:18:14,670 --> 00:18:16,720 So, did we get Daddy’s permission? 439 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,510 Nope, we got Mom’s. 440 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,860 [Priestley] On our Christmas break, 441 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,450 I said to Luke and Ian, 442 00:18:38,490 --> 00:18:40,660 I said, "Guys, let’s go to Zermatt. 443 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:42,030 Let’s go skiing," 444 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,740 so we all book our tickets, and we’re all gonna go, 445 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:48,000 and then Luke, all of a sudden, isn’t gonna come 446 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,120 because something’s come up, 447 00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:50,710 and he’s not gonna be able to make it, 448 00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:55,800 so Ian and I travel all the way to Zurich, 449 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,680 and we were getting on the train to go to Zermatt, 450 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,930 and all of a sudden, Luke’s there, 451 00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:02,510 and we’re like, "Dude! 452 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,020 We thought you couldn’t make it?" 453 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:05,560 He was, like, "All right. 454 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,680 No, right, right, I had to, man, I had to come..." you know, 455 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:09,020 and this was very Luke." 456 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:10,600 All he had was his ski bag, 457 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,940 and he had taken all of his clothes. 458 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:14,320 and stuffed them in his ski bag, 459 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:18,110 so everything he wore, the whole trip, was wrinkled. 460 00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:19,450 It was pretty funny. 461 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:23,700 So, anyway, we go to Zermatt, and we’re skiing, 462 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,540 and we’re, you know, we’re going out at night 463 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:26,750 to the Post Hotel, 464 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:29,160 and we could tell that there were a few people 465 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:30,370 knew who we were, 466 00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,540 but sometimes nobody knew who we were, 467 00:19:32,590 --> 00:19:36,510 but we got bothered enough that I think we all knew 468 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:37,470 that... 469 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,220 that it was about to change. 470 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:40,380 [teens screaming] 471 00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:42,800 It was a big shock to all of us. 472 00:19:42,850 --> 00:19:44,140 [teens screaming and cheering] 473 00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:45,720 But shopping malls just became a place 474 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,560 that we couldn’t go to for 10 years. 475 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,690 It was crazy. 476 00:19:50,730 --> 00:19:51,900 [news reporter] Each Thursday night, 477 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,980 millions of teens hang up their phones 478 00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:57,070 to watch the latest exploits of the coolest, richest, 479 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:58,280 and most gorgeous high school clique 480 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400 this side of Rodeo Drive. 481 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,110 It’s not like anything else, you know? 482 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,740 It’s appealing to a teenage audience, 483 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,290 which barely anybody in TV was really thinking about. 484 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:09,910 [teens screaming and cheering] 485 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,250 It was a huge show. 486 00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:13,580 Even if you didn’t watch it, you know everybody. 487 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:15,590 The first few times that we went out, 488 00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:17,760 you know, to meet the public, and to do appearances, 489 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,720 um, and then we saw the response that we got. 490 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,430 It was pretty-- It was amazing, it really was. 491 00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:24,720 I mean, you just-- you forget 492 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,260 how many millions of people are watching. 493 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:27,640 They found his trailer. 494 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,140 They were screaming like The Beatles were there, 495 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,430 you know what I mean? 496 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,270 Well, the most popular thing is the pillow, 497 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:33,400 ’cause they get to sleep with them. 498 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,770 In the ’90s, everybody knew Luke Perry. 499 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:38,190 He became a household name. 500 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:40,780 Perry says a girl came up to him recently 501 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,490 and asked for his gum. 502 00:20:42,530 --> 00:20:45,120 He produced a new stick, offered it to her, 503 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,370 and she turned it down. 504 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:48,240 She wanted the piece he was chewing. 505 00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,410 Luke was iconic, he really was. 506 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:52,330 I mean, he was "Luke Perry". 507 00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:54,170 It didn’t get any bigger than that. 508 00:20:54,210 --> 00:20:55,710 [cameras clicking] 509 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:57,340 You didn’t know that girls were going to sleep at night 510 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:58,380 with their little heads against your face, 511 00:20:58,420 --> 00:20:59,960 saying, "Oh, Luke!" 512 00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:02,510 I heard about ’em, but... [laughing] 513 00:21:02,550 --> 00:21:05,800 [Baldwin] You could see women 514 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,220 get distracted by it. 515 00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:08,680 That’s the thing is, 516 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,270 Luke was that kind of energy and look, 517 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:14,140 where you could see a married woman with her husband 518 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:15,560 going, "Oh!" 519 00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:20,190 [news reporter] This is the moment 520 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:22,570 more than 7,000 South Florida teenagers 521 00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:23,820 waited for. 522 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:26,280 Luke Perry, star of Beverly Hills 90210, 523 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,490 was in South Florida 524 00:21:27,530 --> 00:21:29,830 at the fashion mall in Plantation, 525 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:30,950 but the wait, 526 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,620 for some teens more than six hours, 527 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:33,710 was too much, 528 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,080 and the excitement uncontrollable. 529 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:38,670 [crowd screaming and cheering] 530 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:42,590 The crowd, barely containable before he walked onstage, 531 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:43,920 erupted. 532 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:45,470 They pushed and shoved to get at the teen star, 533 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:47,510 knocking down barricades, 534 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:50,810 until finally, Perry had to be whisked away. 535 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:53,140 [crowd screaming] 536 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:55,060 I said to myself, "This is not worth it." 537 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:57,190 You know? It absolutely is not worth it. 538 00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:59,060 Um, I want our show to do well, 539 00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,480 but certainly not at the expense 540 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,690 of anyone getting injured, or possibly even killed. 541 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:05,610 All of a sudden, you know, everybody was involved, 542 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:08,240 and, you know, we had security around us all the time. 543 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,410 Like, a show like that, that is that popular, 544 00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:12,410 it does become a double-edged sword. 545 00:22:15,790 --> 00:22:17,710 [Peter Ferriero] The biggest things that I’ve gotten 546 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,130 out of the Beverly Hills 90210 Show podcast 547 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,210 is this community cares so deeply. 548 00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,760 The fanbase cares so deeply for all of the actors. 549 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,640 There is this deep connection, I think, 550 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,810 feeling as if we all experienced high school, 551 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:36,520 or the things that you would experience in high school, 552 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,810 together. 553 00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:39,520 The character, Dylan McKay, yes, he’s a rebel, 554 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,730 and yes, he was in trouble, 555 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,780 and yes, he was super interesting, 556 00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:43,980 and all of that stuff, 557 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,030 but there is something inherently just good 558 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:47,410 about that character. 559 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:48,700 That he’s looking out for his friends, 560 00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:49,570 that he cares, 561 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:51,200 and he’s also very soft spoken, 562 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,580 so he makes you want to hear what he’s saying. 563 00:22:56,210 --> 00:22:57,460 [bell tolling] 564 00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:05,800 [Wappler] I wrote a book on Luke Perry 565 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,680 because I wanted to tell a different kind of story, 566 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,260 that was about the way a child-- a teenager-- 567 00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:15,770 can latch onto a character- 568 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:18,310 a man like that, like, early in their career, 569 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:20,770 and grow up alongside that person. 570 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:23,270 You know, it’s like, part of the book, for me, 571 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,150 is about growing up, 572 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,650 and about healing certain wounds. 573 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,870 My dad was an Episcopalian minister, 574 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:36,250 and Grace Church was supposed to be the last stop, 575 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,040 and then he got sick with cancer 576 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,620 a couple years after we moved here. 577 00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:42,040 For the most part, 578 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,010 it was myself, and my mom, and my brothers, 579 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:47,840 um, you know, helping out, 580 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,920 doing everything for him. 581 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:53,220 By the time I was 14, 582 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:56,430 and 90210 was coming on, 583 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:59,640 um, you know, he was in the last year of his life, 584 00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:02,980 and I was especially wanting to escape, 585 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:06,150 and Beverly Hills 90210 586 00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:08,610 was like Escape Island Number One. 587 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,240 You know, the moment I saw Luke Perry, 588 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,570 that was the character for me. 589 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:19,160 Right away, when the show debuted, 590 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,500 people were comparing Luke to James Dean. 591 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:26,920 They did have a certain something in common. 592 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,460 You know, not just the physicality, 593 00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:32,220 you know, both being, like, lithe, you know, slim, trim men, 594 00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:35,850 but also, this kind of, uh, woundedness, you know? 595 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:37,560 Always, in their performances, 596 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,180 was this real, like, kind of pathos, 597 00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:42,390 but, at the same time, Luke, himself, 598 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,560 had a lot of trepidation around that comparison. 599 00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:49,240 I think that, sort of, in a way, 600 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,450 if they make the association strong enough, 601 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,990 I’ll have to pay the price for the fact 602 00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:54,320 that he checked out early. 603 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,410 I think when I can no longer fulfill 604 00:24:56,450 --> 00:24:58,370 that James Dean fantasy for them, 605 00:24:58,410 --> 00:25:00,040 they’ll look and get it from someone else, 606 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,330 and I’ll be gone. 607 00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:03,670 I used to fly around quite a bit, you know? 608 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:06,040 I took a lot of unnecessary chances 609 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,420 on the highways. 610 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:08,880 He knew when to lean into it, 611 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,210 he knew how to be smart with it, 612 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:11,470 and play with it, 613 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,550 but he also was a little bit spooked by it. 614 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,850 [Baldwin] Planet Hollywood, to begin, was restaurants, 615 00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:23,940 and you have to remember 616 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:26,100 this was when "event celebrity" 617 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,690 was different than it is today. 618 00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:33,200 When Sly, and Bruce, and, uh, Schwarzenegger 619 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,660 come to your town to launch a restaurant, 620 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,530 you’re coming. 621 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:38,740 [♪] 622 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:40,290 It’s a hot place. 623 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:44,750 These Planet Hollywood openings were extraordinary. 624 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:46,920 Um, they were going just wild for him, 625 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,130 like, just wild. 626 00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:50,380 [crowd screaming] 627 00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:54,930 [Baldwin] Luke, again, was a burning fire at that time. 628 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,220 10,000 people would be outside, 629 00:25:57,260 --> 00:25:58,600 and you’d have Sly, you’d have the famous people, 630 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,600 blah, blah, blah. 631 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,930 When Luke Perry... 632 00:26:02,140 --> 00:26:07,440 It was mass... freak-daddy hysteria. 633 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,520 It’s a party like you’ve never seen before. 634 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,110 [crowd cheering and clamoring] 635 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:13,780 It’s wonderful! I’m from France. 636 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,950 I’m so happy to see him! 637 00:26:19,660 --> 00:26:21,910 I think that comes from, back then, 638 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:25,160 not just Brad Pitt good looks. 639 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,630 It comes from the people being your fans, you know? 640 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,960 Luke had that love. 641 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,340 [fan screaming] I love you, Luke! 642 00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:34,760 [Perry] I love you, too! 643 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:48,690 [Santina Muha] When I was a little girl, 644 00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:50,980 I had two next-door neighbors that were older than me, 645 00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:52,320 and they were so cool, 646 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,320 so anything they told me to watch, or do, I did. 647 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:55,610 So they came over one day, and they were, like, 648 00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:58,570 "You have to watch this new show, 90210. 649 00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:00,450 It has this guy, Jason Priestley, 650 00:27:00,490 --> 00:27:01,740 and he’s so hot." 651 00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:02,910 I’m, like, "Okay," 652 00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:04,830 ’cause I was boy crazy, a boy-crazy girl, 653 00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:08,420 and, um, so the show comes on, and the credits come on, 654 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:09,500 and there’s Jason Priestley, 655 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:13,750 and I’m, like, "He’s hot. Correct," 656 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,920 but then Luke came on, 657 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,590 and I love Jason, I love Jason, 658 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:19,760 but Luke just... [gasping] took my breath away. 659 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,430 I was, like, "Who is that?" 660 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:23,600 I mean, truly, maybe why 661 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720 I potentially believe in love at first sight. 662 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:29,100 So Luke just surfed onto my screen, and that was it, 663 00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:33,900 and that was my number one crush to this day, 664 00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:37,780 and then, to find out he was also kind of a bad boy, 665 00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:40,110 but he was also, like, a poet, 666 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,410 and sort of tortured soul, 667 00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:43,280 and then, I mean, the first time we meet him, 668 00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:44,740 he’s defending the little guy, 669 00:27:44,790 --> 00:27:47,750 and so, he’s not a jerk, 670 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:50,750 he’s just got a little bit of an edge. 671 00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:53,460 This was appointment television, as they used to call it. 672 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,300 Like, you had to sit in front of the TV, 673 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,760 at that time, 674 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,260 and we would get on the phone, 675 00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,880 and we would be silent during, 676 00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:01,140 and then during the commercial, 677 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,300 "Oh, my god. Blah, blah, blah. This and that. 678 00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:03,390 Oh, my god, he’s so hot," 679 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:05,140 and then "It’s back on, shh!" 680 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:07,720 We’re watching, in silence, on the phone. 681 00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:09,890 You know, you hold it like this. 682 00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:11,980 I mean, I still sort of lean this way a little bit, 683 00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:13,610 and I think it’s from the phones in the ’90s. 684 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:17,780 I remember there was Luke, 685 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:19,280 and, uh, Jason, and whoever else, 686 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,660 they were doing an appearance at the Freehold Mall, 687 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,240 which was not far from where I lived, 688 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,660 and I begged my mom to take me, 689 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,580 and she was, like, "No way!" 690 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:28,620 Because I was recently injured, 691 00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:29,870 so I’m in a wheelchair, 692 00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:33,000 and she’s, like, "I’m not taking you to the mall 693 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,210 where these cast members are like The Beatles right now, 694 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:37,840 and everyone’s, like, bombarding the stage. 695 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,010 I’m, like, "I hate you!" 696 00:28:39,050 --> 00:28:40,630 You know, I pulled a full Brenda on her, 697 00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:43,300 and was mad at her forever and ever about it. 698 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:46,010 Did not forgive her for years, and years, and years. 699 00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:48,640 [interviewer] Do you enjoy being a sex symbol? 700 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,930 God, you know, 701 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,730 I don’t think of myself as being a sex symbol, 702 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:54,150 for starters. 703 00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:56,230 If I am... 704 00:28:56,270 --> 00:28:58,230 it’s okay. 705 00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:01,860 [Priestley] That morning, 706 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,570 when we shot that Rolling Stone cover, 707 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,410 Luke and I were pretty hungover 708 00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:07,790 because we’d been out the night before, 709 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,290 but Shannon was in good shape, 710 00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:12,210 and we were amazed 711 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:13,790 that we were getting the honor 712 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:15,710 of being on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. 713 00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:17,040 It was a big deal. 714 00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:20,090 We both understood the importance of it, for sure. 715 00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:24,380 At a certain point on the show, 716 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,390 like around the, I don’t know, second or third season, 717 00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:28,060 he became obsessed 718 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,140 with being on the cover of Vanity Fair magazine, 719 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:35,230 because he knew that that would legitimize him 720 00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:36,730 in a--in a certain way, 721 00:29:36,770 --> 00:29:39,070 and I was, like, "Really? Vanity Fair?" 722 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:40,530 You know, because, to me, 723 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,570 Vanity Fair was something that old people read, right, 724 00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:44,660 but that’s exactly why he did it, 725 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,200 and he was super smart in that way. 726 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,660 [Wappler] Luke is, arguably, 727 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,870 the most famous player from the show. 728 00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:55,670 He’s definitely getting the most attention. 729 00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:57,380 Uh, people are really noticing him, 730 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,750 talking about him. 731 00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:02,010 Unlike the Rolling Stone cover that they did, 732 00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:05,340 where it’s Shannon, Jason, and Luke, 733 00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:07,970 this is really zeroing in on Luke, 734 00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:10,100 and, you know, he’s shirtless, 735 00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:13,640 and got these pistols, sort of, like, slung in his jeans, 736 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,850 and it’s real sexy-cowboy time. 737 00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:19,480 Yeah, he sort of bites the hand that’s feeding him, 738 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,520 in a sense. 739 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:22,780 Like, he doesn’t go as far to say 740 00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,190 that 90210 is shlock, or anything, 741 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,780 but he does sort of wink a bit at his fame, 742 00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:30,280 make fun of it even. 743 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:33,410 You know, at one point he says, "I am product!" 744 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:36,750 [Priestley] That Vanity Fair article 745 00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:40,210 didn’t focus on Beverly Hills 90210, 746 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:43,960 and it focused a lot more on who Luke was as a person. 747 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:46,300 I think Luke understood the importance 748 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,090 of letting the world know 749 00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:51,760 that he was more than just this Dylan McKay. 750 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,730 He and I were both very conscious of it, 751 00:30:56,770 --> 00:30:57,980 and we talked about it a lot. 752 00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:59,600 Like, how to distance yourself 753 00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:02,320 from a super successful show like that, 754 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,940 and how difficult it was, right? 755 00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:06,820 And how difficult it was gonna be for us in the future. 756 00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:08,110 I think that that Vanity Fair article 757 00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:11,620 did a lot to help Luke start to separate. 758 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,740 There was a fundamental divide 759 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:18,960 between who did movies and who did television. 760 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,840 These were TV guys doing TV, 761 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,340 doing really well with TV, 762 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:26,340 but longing for something else, 763 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:30,590 and these young actors all wanted to be "that guy", 764 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760 and-- who knew who "that guy" would be? 765 00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:38,640 [Perry] 10, 15 years from now, 766 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:41,520 I would like to see myself in a place that, uh, 767 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,190 is far away from here. [laughing] 768 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:47,570 It’s, uh, quiet, and country, and, uh... 769 00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:49,450 there are no flashbulbs. 770 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,450 We talked about the fact 771 00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:52,030 that he wanted to leave the show, 772 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:54,200 uh, and of course at that point in time, you know, 773 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,540 we all--we all signed five-year contracts, 774 00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:59,580 and, uh, Aaron didn’t renegotiate 775 00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:02,250 before the end of your fifth season. 776 00:32:02,290 --> 00:32:05,050 Um, and so Luke started talking about leaving the show 777 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:06,210 in the fifth season, 778 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:08,630 and I said, "Luke, dude, 779 00:32:08,670 --> 00:32:11,220 we’re just about to start making money. 780 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,390 You can’t leave right now. 781 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:14,600 Like, this is-- 782 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,100 It’s about to start getting good over here, 783 00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:19,230 and all the hard work’s gonna pay off." 784 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,520 He was, like, "No, dude, I gotta go, I gotta go. 785 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,730 I know, I understand, but I gotta go." 786 00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:27,150 I was, like, "Bro, you’re... 787 00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:28,280 Uh, okay." 788 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,860 [news reporter] Luke Perry, 789 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,410 who plays Dylan on Beverly Hills 90210, 790 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:35,870 will reportedly be bumped off in the season’s sixth episode. 791 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:37,120 We reported earlier 792 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080 that Perry plans to pursue a movie career, 793 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,250 and wanted out of the popular TV show. 794 00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:44,790 Fox says it can’t confirm or deny the story." 795 00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,460 I still can’t believe it, man. 796 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:49,840 You, getting married. 797 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,130 Better get used to it, Brando. 798 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:54,550 I got a new life. 799 00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:56,930 [Priestley] So I directed Luke’s last episode, 800 00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:58,760 and it was, you know, emotional for me, 801 00:32:58,810 --> 00:32:59,850 because my friend was leaving, right? 802 00:33:01,270 --> 00:33:03,440 Luke’s character and Rebecca Gayheart’s character 803 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,110 are getting ready to get married, and-- 804 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,150 but her father, who’s a mobster, 805 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:09,150 doesn’t like-- doesn’t like Dylan McKay, 806 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:11,110 and doesn’t think he’s good enough for his daughter. 807 00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:13,200 He takes out a hit on Dylan McKay, 808 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,290 and unfortunately, the hitman kills the wrong person. 809 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,540 I knew this was a big moment for Luke, and so I-- 810 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:23,250 You know, I got rain towers out there, 811 00:33:23,290 --> 00:33:26,210 and lit it up so it would look super dramatic, and anyway... 812 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:30,010 Luke comes to me, and he says, "I wanna do this thing. 813 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:33,840 I wanna fall to my knees, and look up at the sky, 814 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,840 and ask God why he’s done this to me," 815 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,930 and I, you know, and it was another time where I was like, 816 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:40,270 "Ooh, that’s a big choice. 817 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:43,600 That’s a--That’s a risk, brother, but okay," 818 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,360 and he, uh, and he comes out, and he does it. 819 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440 It turned out to be really effective 820 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,530 just because--just because he was emotionally connected 821 00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:53,820 to what was happening. 822 00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:55,990 He wasn’t afraid to make big choices. 823 00:33:56,030 --> 00:33:57,110 ...think it was a carjacking. 824 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,830 [Dylan screaming] No, god! 825 00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,040 Brandon! 826 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Oh, baby! 827 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Oh, my god! [screaming] 828 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,380 Look what they did to her, Brandon! 829 00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:11,840 [sobbing] 830 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,960 [Priestley] When Luke left the show, 831 00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:14,470 it was really hard-- 832 00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:15,720 Luke was my brother-- 833 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,100 and I think it was hard on everybody else, too, 834 00:34:18,140 --> 00:34:20,970 ’cause Luke had really, really deep connections 835 00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:23,850 with everybody on-- on the show. 836 00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:25,190 Everybody on the set. 837 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,020 Our crew, too, like, you know, Luke was-- 838 00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,310 He was a really good friend to a lot of people. 839 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,650 You know, I also understood why he wanted to do it. 840 00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:37,200 He had a lot of creative drive inside him, 841 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,780 and he wanted to do more. 842 00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:41,080 He wanted to do more. 843 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,590 The early ’90s in show business 844 00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:55,880 was absolutely fantastic. 845 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,340 A lot of actors our age, in town, you know, 846 00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:00,090 just kind of know each other, 847 00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:02,600 and, uh, would socialize together. 848 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,430 We became friends, 849 00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:05,680 and he was getting ready 850 00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:07,690 to shoot this Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. 851 00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:09,480 He was so excited about it. 852 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,810 -Could I describe this movie? -Would you? 853 00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:13,270 Not in a thousand words or less, certainly not. 854 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,780 Um, it’s, um, it’s a comedy, 855 00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:18,070 it’s a love story, it’s scary. 856 00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,870 It’s, uh... we shoot the whole damn thing at night, 857 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:21,950 so it’s dark, 858 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:24,120 and, um, it’s funny... 859 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,830 He was, like, "Swanny! 860 00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:27,160 You gotta read this script. 861 00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:28,250 You have to read this script. 862 00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:29,920 Like, you would be the perfect Buffy, 863 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,540 trust me on this." 864 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:32,460 I was, like, "Okay..." 865 00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:35,800 But of course, I had to go through the process 866 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,760 of, you know, auditioning, 867 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,260 but he had my back the entire time, 868 00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,100 and he knew me personally, you know, 869 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:47,140 so he saw that humor that I had, 870 00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:49,480 and that I could bring to the film. 871 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,600 I play Pike, 872 00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:52,770 and Pike is the damsel in distress 873 00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:54,230 in the movie here, you know? 874 00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:56,360 He’s, like... So we did the big role reversal thing, 875 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,070 and Swanson’s the hero... 876 00:35:58,110 --> 00:35:59,650 He loved the fact 877 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,200 that the girl was kicking ass in the movie. 878 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,490 That’s what he loved about the script, so... 879 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:06,410 ’Cause I remember him selling me on it, 880 00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:08,120 like, when he was telling me about the story. 881 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,750 He was, like, "Oh, my god, and she’s funny, 882 00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,710 and she’s kicking ass all the time." 883 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880 [panting] 884 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,970 -Hi. -Hi. 885 00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:22,010 He loved all the stunts that I got to do, 886 00:36:22,050 --> 00:36:23,970 and he would always, always cheer me on, 887 00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:25,010 always. 888 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,100 Like a cheerleader, 889 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:27,680 like a mascot, in a way. [laughing] 890 00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:31,810 "Oh, Swanny, that kick was high! 891 00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:33,560 Oh, my god!" You know? 892 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,320 Like, he’d be, like, "Damn! Look at that side kick!" 893 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,150 And he loved playing that guy 894 00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,570 that was, like, "Okay, do your thing. 895 00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:42,200 Go do your thing," you know? 896 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,200 "Go be you, go kick ass," you know? 897 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,000 Luke always had my back on the set. 898 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,000 Whatever it could be, at any given moment, 899 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,050 he was always a shoulder to cry on, 900 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:59,340 someone to pat you on the back, 901 00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:01,840 or someone to tell you, "Get over it, 902 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,090 get out there and do it." 903 00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:04,390 You know what I mean? Like, he was that guy. 904 00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:10,640 Even after the movie, always supportive, 905 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,440 of my life, of my career, 906 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,900 him having children, 907 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,360 me getting married, having children, 908 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,070 you know, like, staying in touch with each other. 909 00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:23,860 I am... 910 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:27,450 so grateful that... 911 00:37:27,490 --> 00:37:29,700 he had a vision, 912 00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:31,910 and he saw me in that role, 913 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,710 and I will never forget that. 914 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,760 [♪] 915 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:44,010 [Priestley] Because of the level of fame that he had, 916 00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:47,720 he figured out that he would be able to get to people. 917 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560 He could call their office and they would return his call, 918 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,640 no matter who it was, 919 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,270 and that’s how he got 8 Seconds made. 920 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:59,650 He bought the rights to Lane Frost’s story, 921 00:37:59,690 --> 00:38:01,150 and he called Mike De Luca, 922 00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:02,940 who was the head of New Line at the time. 923 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,200 Like, nobody just calls Mike De Luca, 924 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,320 but Luke just called his office, 925 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,950 and was, like, "Hey, I’ve got a project. 926 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:09,160 I wanna come in and pitch it to ya," 927 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080 and De Luca was, like, "Uh, okay." 928 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,620 I know that 8 Seconds was a passion of his, 929 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:16,620 to make that movie, 930 00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:18,170 and he knew the family, 931 00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:20,000 and I know that the studio promised him 932 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,260 that they would make that film, 933 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,420 but they just wanted to get Buffy done first. 934 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:27,970 [news report] That first big role for a young actor 935 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:29,260 is very important, 936 00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:31,140 but sometimes, even more important, 937 00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:33,100 is that second big part. 938 00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:35,770 For actor Luke Perry, star of Beverly Hills 90210, 939 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:37,600 the role of Lane Frost, 940 00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:38,770 his second big part, 941 00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:40,110 might be the door opener 942 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:42,280 for a long and successful film career. 943 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,110 If you’ve never seen bull-riding at a rodeo, 944 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,240 you don’t know, 945 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,780 but they are, you know, 2,000-pound, 946 00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:51,240 angry, wild animals 947 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,790 that don’t give a [bleep] if they step on you, 948 00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:56,710 if they hook you with their horns 949 00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:58,080 and throw you out of the ring. 950 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,540 They’re terrifying. 951 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:02,920 And Luke told me-- 952 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,170 he was, like, "Yeah, dude, I’m gonna-- 953 00:39:04,210 --> 00:39:05,340 I’m going out to Riverside this weekend. 954 00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:06,380 I’m gonna ride a bull." 955 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:08,180 I was, like, "What? 956 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:11,180 Dude, you’re not a bull-rider! 957 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:12,350 What are you doing?" 958 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:17,060 [Baldwin] I’d never hung out with Luke that much. 959 00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,690 We kinda knew each other, 960 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:22,190 but we’re friendly, kind of, within the industry, 961 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:25,190 and I get this phone call, like, random. 962 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,570 And I answer, and he goes, "Hello, Baldwin?" 963 00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:28,200 and I go, "Yeah?" He says, uh, "Luke Perry." 964 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,530 "Oh, hey, man." 965 00:39:29,570 --> 00:39:33,200 He goes, "Hey, man, uh, I’ve got this thing going. 966 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,490 It’s this rodeo movie. 967 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,620 We got to get together, 968 00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:36,870 we’ve got to talk about it," 969 00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:39,290 and I’m going... [chuckling] 970 00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:40,880 "Okay, Luke. 971 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,590 Are you calling me to say you want to make a movie, 972 00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,460 and you and I are gonna really ride bulls?" 973 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,840 and he’s, like, "Yeah. 974 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,380 I’m calling you to say I’m making a movie, 975 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:52,220 and if you say yes, we’re really gonna ride bulls," 976 00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:54,470 and I’m, like... 977 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,970 This is Luke Perry, right? 978 00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:59,520 Like, you know what I mean, he’s cute, but... 979 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,560 He’s-- I think he’s-- you know, he’s gotta be, like, kidding. 980 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,230 [Priestley] Luke was bull-riding. 981 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,070 No messing around. 982 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:08,400 They couldn’t afford 10,000 extras, 983 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,160 so he had to really go to rodeos, 984 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,990 and get on real bulls, 985 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:14,240 and try to hang on. 986 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,410 Okay, boys! 987 00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:16,740 All right! 988 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:19,870 [♪] 989 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:24,920 [Baldwin] I never got to know Luke 990 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,210 until we did the movie. 991 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:30,590 To get to know him as an artist, and an actor, 992 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:35,470 and kinda see a guy who really was taking a risk. 993 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:36,760 This was not a joke. 994 00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:38,560 This was, like, a serious feature film. 995 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,520 He was considered a handsome television star. 996 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,610 [interviewer] I was really impressed 997 00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:45,940 at how this film didn’t, uh, 998 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:49,320 gloss over the rough spots in his life. 999 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,950 Yeah, that was very important to me 1000 00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:52,030 that we not do that, 1001 00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:53,700 because, to me, that’s the story. 1002 00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:55,780 I mean, that’s an integral part of the story. 1003 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,910 Uh, a lot of times, people are very envious 1004 00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:59,790 because it looks real good to be the champ, 1005 00:40:59,830 --> 00:41:02,540 but, you know, you got to make some sacrifices to get there, 1006 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:04,000 and you gotta make some to stay on top, 1007 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,250 and it is paying the price for those sacrifices 1008 00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:07,670 that’s often very painful. 1009 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:10,170 That’s my favorite part of, you know, knowing Luke, 1010 00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:11,630 and having been friends with him, 1011 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:15,260 was that he was that real deal as an actor. 1012 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:18,640 You know, he wanted to live the experience. 1013 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,180 He wanted to create the character. 1014 00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:23,140 He wanted to live that thrill, 1015 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:24,310 and then, Luke, himself 1016 00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:27,020 was, you know, a cowboy in his own right. 1017 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,320 [Perry] I think it’s important for the audience 1018 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,610 to experience the danger, 1019 00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:31,780 and if they don’t sense 1020 00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:33,030 the danger of Lane Frost being on a bull, 1021 00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:34,610 they will sense the danger 1022 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:36,320 of Luke Perry getting ready to get his head stomped in, 1023 00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:37,870 and, uh, if they see 1024 00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:39,830 that it’s actually me on there coming out, 1025 00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:41,250 then I think it-- 1026 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:42,580 it makes a lot of other elements in the film work. 1027 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:43,870 [Baldwin] If you asked me, 1028 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,460 kinda being the youngest, 1029 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,040 rough and tumble Baldwin brother-- 1030 00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:49,840 macho, competitive-- 1031 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,170 did I think Luke Perry was a tough guy? 1032 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:53,840 No. 1033 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,550 Not before I met him. 1034 00:41:55,590 --> 00:41:59,680 But what was cool about him was he was a little crazy. 1035 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,140 He had this little bit of nuts. 1036 00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:06,400 That little bit of nuts is why Paul Newman raced cars. 1037 00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:12,190 I think his fire was the cowboy, 1038 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,860 so the opportunity to transfer that 1039 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:19,240 into the greatest bull-rider of all time, 1040 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,040 who also was... 1041 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,330 considered to be one of the humblest, kindest guys-- 1042 00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:28,330 Lane Frost-- 1043 00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:33,210 How do you play the balls of that fearlessness, 1044 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:37,390 and the niceness of that sensitivity? 1045 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:39,970 That’s a fricking hard role to play. 1046 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:46,140 He was like a Newman. 1047 00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:47,100 He was like a Redford, too, 1048 00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:49,230 but he was more like-- 1049 00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:50,770 and I love you, bro! 1050 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:54,740 --but he was more like, uh, a James Dean, 1051 00:42:54,780 --> 00:43:00,570 because James Dean was so smokingly attractive 1052 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:03,040 when he went sensitive, 1053 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,460 Luke also understood how to do that, as an actor, 1054 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,960 which is hard when you’re so good-looking. 1055 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:16,170 For some reason, the AD said to me, 1056 00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:19,050 like, after the second day of shooting, 1057 00:43:19,090 --> 00:43:20,510 he says, "Hey, man, 1058 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:22,100 you know, we’re gonna just send one car in the morning 1059 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:23,260 just to pick you and Luke up, 1060 00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:24,680 instead of just two cars, 1061 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:25,890 ’cause you’re going to the same place, 1062 00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:27,640 we’re just gonna make it easier for transpo." 1063 00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:29,560 I go, "Yeah, man. Cool, yeah," 1064 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,650 so the next morning, I get in this car with Luke, 1065 00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:33,940 and we get on the freeway, 1066 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,570 and Luke goes... 1067 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,740 ...and the driver gets off this exit, 1068 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:46,870 and right off the exit is a crane, 1069 00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:50,710 a huge crane, going about four stories up, 1070 00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:54,210 with a bungee jump attached to it, 1071 00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:56,130 so, he goes, "Come on." 1072 00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:57,840 I go, "What are you doing?" 1073 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,930 He goes, "Bungee jump, bro. Let’s go." 1074 00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:02,850 "Bro, we’re gonna get in trouble." 1075 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,970 He goes... [whispering] "Nobody’s gonna know." 1076 00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:08,180 My hair’s standing up on my arm doing it right now, 1077 00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:11,440 and that’s the Luke I got to know. 1078 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,610 This is the first time I’m telling this story. 1079 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:16,860 We did a bungee jump on the way to the set, 1080 00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,530 every day for seven days. 1081 00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:22,320 We were jacked on adrenaline by the time we got there. 1082 00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:25,700 We were ready to ride bulls. 1083 00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:29,500 8 Seconds is considered to be 1084 00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:34,540 in the top 10 greatest rodeo pictures of all time. 1085 00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:36,630 Do you know how many rodeo pictures have been made? 1086 00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:38,840 He’s the John Wayne of bull-riding movies, 1087 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,010 Luke Perry. 1088 00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:44,470 [Priestley] He really connected 1089 00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:47,560 to that, sort of, you know, Western community, 1090 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,270 and, um, and he bought a piece of land in Tennessee, 1091 00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:53,600 and started working the land, and, you know, 1092 00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:54,860 and started taking a lot more roles, 1093 00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:56,650 like, sort of Western roles, right? 1094 00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:58,690 Like, I think making 8 Seconds really changed him, 1095 00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:01,150 and changed the trajectory of his career. 1096 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:13,960 When Luke got the script for Normal Life, 1097 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,170 he was super excited by the opportunity, 1098 00:45:16,210 --> 00:45:18,170 because he really wanted to work with John McNaughton. 1099 00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,880 He saw that movie as a great opportunity, 1100 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,220 and a great opportunity to distance himself more 1101 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:25,550 from Dylan McKay 1102 00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:27,180 and from, you know, being a teenage heartthrob. 1103 00:45:30,850 --> 00:45:33,980 [Steven A. Jones] John and I were both fascinated with-- 1104 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:35,650 the popular term is "outliers", 1105 00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:36,810 but, you know, "criminals" 1106 00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:39,190 is a-- [chuckling] --a better term for it. 1107 00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:40,110 Fascinated with people 1108 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:41,990 that didn’t take the normal path, 1109 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:45,660 and had to find some other way to get by, 1110 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:46,780 and because we both have 1111 00:45:46,820 --> 00:45:49,290 quite the perverse sense of humor, 1112 00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:51,660 and perverse attitude towards many things, 1113 00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:53,210 the trickier 1114 00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:55,750 and more, you know, criminal, in a lot of ways, they were, 1115 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:57,750 the more interesting those characters were to us. 1116 00:45:57,790 --> 00:45:59,340 [news reporter] Till death do they part 1117 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:00,630 may have been their vow, 1118 00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:02,010 but at the time of their capture, at least, 1119 00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,630 Jeff Erickson seemed more inclined 1120 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:06,050 to part from his wife than die with her. 1121 00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:07,550 The end came 1122 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,680 after two-and-a-half years of unsolved bank robberies 1123 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,640 in the northwest suburbs. 1124 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,060 The so-called "bearded bandit", 1125 00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,350 with the disguise of several layers of clothing, 1126 00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:16,020 facial hair, and heavy gloves, 1127 00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,020 stuff, which, along with a police scanner, 1128 00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:20,230 were reportedly found in the bullet-riddled van 1129 00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:21,610 December 16th. 1130 00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:23,860 This story was big news in Chicago. 1131 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:25,360 In fact, we would see them on the news 1132 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,450 robbing banks 1133 00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:28,120 because, you know, security cameras. 1134 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,370 They would come in, 1135 00:46:29,410 --> 00:46:31,950 and at first it was just him, 1136 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:33,250 uh, and he would-- 1137 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:35,000 wearing a fake beard and a Cubs hat. 1138 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,540 and then his wife, 1139 00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,920 who had mental issues, 1140 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840 uh, she was kind of a thrill-seeker, 1141 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960 and she found out that he was robbing banks 1142 00:46:43,010 --> 00:46:45,380 because they were going broke, 1143 00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:47,470 and she loved the idea, and wanted to go with, 1144 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:49,010 and she did, 1145 00:46:49,050 --> 00:46:51,720 and then they both went down in huge gunfights, 1146 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,810 and died, 1147 00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:55,100 and it was pretty intense. 1148 00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:57,600 The movie, Normal Life, had fallen apart, 1149 00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:00,020 and, uh, we couldn’t get anybody 1150 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:01,400 to put any money into it, 1151 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,490 and then we got a call from the William Morris Agency, 1152 00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:08,070 and they had just taken Luke on as a client, 1153 00:47:08,110 --> 00:47:10,570 and they said, "We hear you’re doing this movie, 1154 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:15,960 and we’ll raise the money for you to make this movie," 1155 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,580 and, uh, I said, 1156 00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:18,960 "Well, I don’t know, 1157 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,590 you know, we’re really specific about our casting," 1158 00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:24,210 and they went to a rental store, 1159 00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:27,130 rented a cassette of the-- of the rodeo movie, 1160 00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:28,630 Eight and a Half Seconds-- 1161 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,260 FedExed me a rental video cassette, 1162 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,100 and I walked it over to John’s house 1163 00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:36,600 and put it in his VHS machine, 1164 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,610 and said, "Well, you know, this guy will be great." 1165 00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:44,480 I was never a huge 90210 fan, 1166 00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:45,780 and to me, it was, like, 1167 00:47:45,820 --> 00:47:47,780 "What’s some teenage heartthrob..." 1168 00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:49,280 It’s just, like, you know... 1169 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,610 I don’t... 1170 00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:52,240 But a lesson I have learned-- 1171 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,830 always meet the person, because you never know. 1172 00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:55,790 We sat down, and Luke sat down, 1173 00:47:55,830 --> 00:48:00,120 and of course, everybody knew who Luke Perry was, in the room, 1174 00:48:00,170 --> 00:48:02,790 uh, but Luke was so, uh, very unaffected by it, 1175 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,090 and very down to earth, 1176 00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:05,800 and, uh, even though Luke was a big celebrity, 1177 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,630 he didn’t act like a big celebrity. 1178 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:09,130 He acted like a human being, 1179 00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:11,970 and, uh, I just changed my opinion. 1180 00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:13,300 I said, "This guy’s great, 1181 00:48:13,350 --> 00:48:14,510 and let’s go!" 1182 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:18,850 The locations for Normal Life 1183 00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:21,060 was all that area out by the airport, 1184 00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,940 which is where the real story took place. 1185 00:48:23,980 --> 00:48:25,820 It was all built in the post-war era, 1186 00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:29,360 and, uh, suburban sprawl. 1187 00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:37,500 [Jones] And we walk into this bank with Luke, 1188 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:38,950 and this guy comes up to us, 1189 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,580 and goes, "Oh, so what are you doing?" you know, 1190 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:42,750 and we’re, like, uh, "We’re shooting a movie 1191 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:43,790 about these guys, the Ericksons," 1192 00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:46,800 and he goes, "He robbed this bank," 1193 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,960 and I said-- 1194 00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:49,760 And Luke was standing right-right here. 1195 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,130 I said, "He robbed this bank?" 1196 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:52,890 He goes, "Yeah, yeah, he robbed this bank," 1197 00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:54,760 and he goes over to the drawer, 1198 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,640 and he pulls out a photograph of Erickson in his getup 1199 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,600 that nobody had ever seen. 1200 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,690 He goes, "Yeah, I was there," 1201 00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:02,770 and I said, "Sir?" "Yeah?" 1202 00:49:02,810 --> 00:49:04,060 I said, "What was it like?" 1203 00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,940 He goes, "He just came in screaming profanity 1204 00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:07,440 at the top of his lungs," 1205 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,650 and I looked over at Luke, 1206 00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:10,070 and he’s, like, "Yeah, I got it." [laughing] 1207 00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:11,780 [bleep] And I mean now! 1208 00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:13,070 Nobody move! 1209 00:49:13,110 --> 00:49:14,160 Gimme that [bleep] gun! 1210 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,990 Nobody move. Get over there! 1211 00:49:16,030 --> 00:49:17,540 Lay down on the floor! You, too! 1212 00:49:17,580 --> 00:49:18,660 [screaming] Lay down! 1213 00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,160 I mean, both of their performances 1214 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080 are astounding in my-- in my opinion, 1215 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,420 but Luke’s, in particular, 1216 00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:27,750 just for--for the calmness of most of it. 1217 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,010 He-- his had to all be in here, you know? 1218 00:49:31,380 --> 00:49:33,010 Is this the way you want to play it, Pam? 1219 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,220 You don’t want to live anymore, 1220 00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:39,510 I don’t want to live anymore, either. 1221 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,930 So we’re shooting the movie, 1222 00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:44,730 and we’re probably most of the way through it, 1223 00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:47,650 and we said, "Luke, uh, 1224 00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:50,570 you know, we never saw 90210, 1225 00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:52,740 not one second of it," 1226 00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:55,910 and he just stared at us for a second, 1227 00:49:55,950 --> 00:49:57,240 and he goes, 1228 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,370 "Do you understand how hard I was trying to work 1229 00:50:00,410 --> 00:50:03,540 so that you would forget about my TV career?" 1230 00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:07,750 and I said, "No, you had us from the word go. [laughing] 1231 00:50:07,790 --> 00:50:09,800 You came in completely, you know, 1232 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,090 completely unblemished. 1233 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:13,050 We were just looking at your work, and it was-- 1234 00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:15,300 it’s so incredible that we’re good." 1235 00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:21,890 When we got it all finished, 1236 00:50:21,930 --> 00:50:24,480 uh, they were gonna test it, 1237 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,520 and they tested it in-- 1238 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,020 it was actually a suburb of Oakland, 1239 00:50:28,060 --> 00:50:30,110 and when you test a movie, 1240 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:31,400 you go find an audience, 1241 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,900 and the way you do it, is you ask them 1242 00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:35,450 about some other specific kinds of movies, 1243 00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:37,950 and they-- I-- they asked the audience, 1244 00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:40,780 "How would you like to see a Luke Perry movie?" 1245 00:50:40,830 --> 00:50:42,290 Well, the audience didn’t-- 1246 00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:45,250 They thought that, "Oh, 90210, it’s gonna be this-- 1247 00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:47,330 that kind of a movie." 1248 00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:50,630 The selected audience that they put in those seats 1249 00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:51,960 hated the movie, 1250 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,210 because they were-- 1251 00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:56,130 they felt they were lead down a-- the wrong path, 1252 00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:58,140 and then they wouldn’t put it out in the theatres. 1253 00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,970 It was awful for me, it was worse for John. 1254 00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:04,890 [McNaughton] So, New Line just, you know, 1255 00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:06,520 I think they released it in some small amount of-- 1256 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,770 I don’t think it was even in major city just to speak of. 1257 00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:10,860 Then, I was angry. 1258 00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:13,320 Now... it’s the breaks. 1259 00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:18,990 I think Luke, you know, he became such a pro. 1260 00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:20,660 It just, like, this is the way of the world. 1261 00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:23,830 I mean, you could-- Now, it’s just, like, well... 1262 00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:26,330 if you get lucky, say a prayer, 1263 00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:29,000 but if not, "Moving on." "Next." 1264 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,290 You keep working. 1265 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:34,550 Any time you’re a teen heartthrob, 1266 00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:38,180 everyone just assumes that you’re a [bleep] actor. 1267 00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:40,180 You’re just a--You’re just a good-looking kid, right? 1268 00:51:40,220 --> 00:51:42,970 I think that was a lot to overcome, 1269 00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:45,390 but Luke, you know, never stopped trying. 1270 00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:47,600 [Perry] I have had the chance 1271 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,980 to work with, uh, filmmakers that I respect, 1272 00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:51,690 and do the kind of work that I want to do, 1273 00:51:51,730 --> 00:51:53,860 and it’s just a matter of time. 1274 00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,570 You know, you play a number of parts, 1275 00:51:55,610 --> 00:51:57,150 and then after a while, 1276 00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:59,360 people don’t really connect you with one-one thing anymore, 1277 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,280 but, um, you know, I was always very clear on-- 1278 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,870 on what the show did for me, 1279 00:52:02,910 --> 00:52:04,330 and what I did for it. 1280 00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:05,540 I just felt it was time for me to play other stuff. 1281 00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:25,350 [Winters] There’s a casting director named Alexa Fogel. 1282 00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:28,020 She calls me one day, and she goes, "Listen," 1283 00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:30,560 she goes, "I have this actor coming into town, 1284 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,730 and he doesn’t have a lot of friends in New York, 1285 00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:35,110 and he needs-- he needs a buddy." 1286 00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:36,820 I’m, like, who is it?" and she goes, "Luke Perry." 1287 00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:38,360 I was, like, "Really?" 1288 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,530 and then I was, like, "Okay." 1289 00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:41,910 I showed up, and, you know, Luke had-- 1290 00:52:41,950 --> 00:52:43,570 He always had a baseball cap on, 1291 00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:45,240 and we started talking, and-- 1292 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,660 I don’t take people on very easily, 1293 00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,250 but, like, he was just a-- a really genuine soul, 1294 00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:55,540 and he was extremely humble. 1295 00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:57,920 You know, I didn’t really bring him around my crew 1296 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,960 at first. 1297 00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:00,340 Um, I wanted to, like, 1298 00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:01,880 really just kinda get to know him, 1299 00:53:01,930 --> 00:53:03,840 and kinda ease him into it, you know? 1300 00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:05,600 Because New York was a whole new thing for him. 1301 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560 We became very close, very fast. 1302 00:53:08,850 --> 00:53:10,810 I was doing this show called Oz, 1303 00:53:10,850 --> 00:53:12,730 and he had held this back for a while, 1304 00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:14,270 but he goes, "All I wanna do is, 1305 00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:15,940 I wanna be a part of something like that." 1306 00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:18,730 He goes, "I need to shed, you know, Dylan, 1307 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,150 you know, that whole image." 1308 00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:25,320 [Tom Fontana] Dean Winters is truly the king of New York. 1309 00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:27,240 He knows everybody, goes everywhere. 1310 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,000 Can get into any place he wants to get into, 1311 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,370 so I met Luke through Dean, 1312 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:34,630 and he said to me, 1313 00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:37,000 "Do you think you could write a part for me?" 1314 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,090 and I said, "Absolutely." 1315 00:53:39,130 --> 00:53:42,380 First of all, I wanted to explore 1316 00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,720 that Christian community that exists in prison. 1317 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,970 Second of all, 1318 00:53:48,010 --> 00:53:50,140 because I wanted the character 1319 00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:55,100 to be an incredibly successful, uh, preacher, 1320 00:53:55,150 --> 00:53:58,480 I wanted to make sure that I had somebody 1321 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,150 who--who brought with him a kind of fame, 1322 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,660 as opposed to hiring an unknown actor, 1323 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,280 and then having to convince the audience he was famous, 1324 00:54:08,330 --> 00:54:10,450 you hire Luke Perry, and you’re-- 1325 00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:12,830 you already got half the job done. 1326 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:15,960 He’s so honest in his acting, 1327 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,500 that I knew he would be genuine. 1328 00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:19,250 He wouldn’t, like, mock the character. 1329 00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:22,670 He’d just be who the guy was supposed to be. 1330 00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:28,760 The tension between the different communities 1331 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,220 that made up, uh, Oz, 1332 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:36,980 was always a great place to start a new character, 1333 00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:40,190 because they don’t know, 1334 00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:42,280 and when a character doesn’t know, 1335 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,570 like, Luke didn’t know 1336 00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:45,650 when he first met Vern Schillinger, 1337 00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:49,450 he has to discover very quickly what the rules are. 1338 00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:52,330 Let him who suffer take away your suffering. 1339 00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:55,370 Get your [bleep] hand off me. 1340 00:54:56,710 --> 00:55:00,210 [Fontana] Once he came onto the set, 1341 00:55:00,250 --> 00:55:02,800 he was very much committed to the character, 1342 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,930 and Luke disappeared in a lot of ways. 1343 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:09,930 When I talked to Luke about being on the show, 1344 00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:11,180 I said to him, "You know, 1345 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:13,520 the thing about being in Emerald City 1346 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,270 is, when there are group scenes, 1347 00:55:16,310 --> 00:55:18,020 all the actors have to be there, 1348 00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:20,270 even if they have no dialogue, 1349 00:55:20,310 --> 00:55:21,980 and if that’s a problem for you, 1350 00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:23,320 then you shouldn’t do this," 1351 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,150 and he said, "I have no-- 1352 00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:27,700 absolutely no problem with that," 1353 00:55:27,740 --> 00:55:31,120 and I would see him with the other-- 1354 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,450 with the extras playing the Christians, 1355 00:55:33,490 --> 00:55:36,960 and I would see them gathered, praying, 1356 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000 without being told to do that. 1357 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,420 He just--He just said, "Look, we’re, you know, 1358 00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:44,630 the scene’s gonna-- let’s, let’s pray," 1359 00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:47,300 and I just thought that was wonderful, you know, 1360 00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:51,050 that he was creating within the space 1361 00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:55,430 the world that he thought that character would motivate. 1362 00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:57,730 And I remember, like, 1363 00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:59,190 I wasn’t really working in those scenes, 1364 00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:00,690 but I remember I went to watch him, 1365 00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:02,650 and I was just, like, "[bleep] this guy’s [bleep] good!" 1366 00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:04,820 He had enveloped his character. 1367 00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:07,900 He became Jeremiah Cloutier. 1368 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,570 So, the first day of filming with Luke, we’re-- 1369 00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:14,030 There was a part of the prison called M-City, right? 1370 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,870 Um, and there’s a scene 1371 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:20,920 where Luke walks from his cell to the showers, 1372 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,170 and to get there, 1373 00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:25,250 he’s gotta walk through, like, a hundred extras, 1374 00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,550 and, um, he’s-- we’re talking the Hell’s Angels, 1375 00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:29,470 Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, right? 1376 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:31,970 And then the core-- and then the core cast, 1377 00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,510 and so, Luke is walking from his cell to the showers. 1378 00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:36,430 He has a towel around his waist, right? 1379 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:38,480 And people--people, as he’s coming out, 1380 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,690 people were, like... 1381 00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:41,690 you could see people were registering 1382 00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:43,270 that they knew who he was, right? 1383 00:56:43,310 --> 00:56:45,690 They’re, like--they’re, like, "Is that [bleep] Luke Perry?" 1384 00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:47,780 And I’m just looking around, because no one really knew, 1385 00:56:47,820 --> 00:56:50,860 and as he’s-- walks out to the showers, 1386 00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:52,990 he just drops his towel, 1387 00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:54,370 and he’s fully naked, 1388 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:55,700 fully naked, 1389 00:56:55,740 --> 00:56:56,870 I’m getting chills telling this. 1390 00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:58,290 [prisoners hollering] 1391 00:56:58,330 --> 00:56:59,830 -Whoa-ho! -Oh, man! 1392 00:56:59,870 --> 00:57:01,250 Yo, minister, baby! 1393 00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:04,080 [wolf whistles and shouting] 1394 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:07,340 [prisoners shouting] 1395 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:10,630 And everyone just starts clapping, 1396 00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:13,050 because they knew that he was now, in that-- 1397 00:57:13,090 --> 00:57:14,720 what he did in that moment 1398 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,180 was... he’s, like, "All right, I’m one of you guys, now. 1399 00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:19,640 I’m not some guy that just came from 90210, 1400 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,350 who’s not gonna do the hard stuff," 1401 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:23,270 and from that moment on, 1402 00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:26,270 he was just, like, part of the family. 1403 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,690 On Friday night, we would all go out 1404 00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:32,400 to this place called The Hog Pit for drinks, 1405 00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:34,950 and I go looking for him at, like, 7:00 at night, 1406 00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:35,990 and I can’t find him, 1407 00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:37,990 and so, I asked one of the P.A.s. 1408 00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:39,950 I said, "Hey, do you know where Luke is?" 1409 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,250 She’s, like, "Oh, he’s on the roof." 1410 00:57:41,290 --> 00:57:43,580 I go, "The roof?" I go, "What roof?" 1411 00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:45,790 She’s, like, "Yeah, you climb that ladder up there, 1412 00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:47,170 and then you get to the roof." 1413 00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:49,090 I go, "I’ve been working on this show for four years, 1414 00:57:49,130 --> 00:57:51,210 I didn’t know you could go to the [bleep] roof," right? 1415 00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:52,760 So I climb this little ladder, 1416 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680 go through, like, a manhole to the roof, 1417 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,090 and I get up there, and it’s sunset, right? 1418 00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:58,720 And it’s sunset over New Jersey, over the Hudson River, 1419 00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,760 and the sun is dipping. 1420 00:57:59,810 --> 00:58:01,350 All I can see is Luke, 1421 00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:04,350 uh, sitting on, like, a little, you know, piece of scaffolding, 1422 00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:06,810 and I didn’t call his name, 1423 00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:10,280 ’cause I felt like he was having a moment, 1424 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,150 and I walked up to him, 1425 00:58:12,190 --> 00:58:13,700 and I sat down next to him, 1426 00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:17,120 and... [clearing throat] 1427 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,830 and I saw he was crying, 1428 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:19,950 and it was... 1429 00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:21,700 and I just looked at him, 1430 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:23,960 and I looked at the sunset, 1431 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,460 and he was still crying, 1432 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:29,000 and I--and I said-- I said, "Luke, are you okay?" 1433 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,340 And he goes, "Brother," 1434 00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,590 he goes, "This might be the best day of my life," 1435 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:35,430 and I didn’t say another word. 1436 00:58:35,470 --> 00:58:37,140 We just watched the sunset together, 1437 00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:39,050 and then when it got dark, we went downstairs, 1438 00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,470 and we joined the cast, you know, at the bar, 1439 00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:42,520 but he told me, he’s like, 1440 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,810 he goes-he goes, 1441 00:58:43,850 --> 00:58:45,730 "I’ve been waiting for an experience like this 1442 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:47,150 since I became an actor." 1443 00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:50,570 You want your work 1444 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,360 to kind of match the evolution of who you are as a person. 1445 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,190 He wanted to get something off his chest. 1446 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,700 "I’m not Dylan anymore, right, 1447 00:58:57,740 --> 00:58:58,990 and this is what I have to say, 1448 00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:59,990 this is who I am. 1449 00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:01,540 I’m someone different." 1450 00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:16,840 At the stage that Jason was driving these racecars, 1451 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,430 they didn’t care it was Jason Priestley 1452 00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:19,890 in the cockpit of that car. 1453 00:59:19,930 --> 00:59:21,680 You have to be able to perform the service 1454 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,810 at a very high level. 1455 00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:26,020 In 2002, I had a big, uh... 1456 00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:28,350 I was racing Indy Lights, and I had a big crash 1457 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,770 in, uh, in Kentucky, 1458 00:59:29,810 --> 00:59:34,530 and they airlifted me to the University of Kentucky. 1459 00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,240 The news broke, 1460 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,860 and people were sending well wishes, 1461 00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:39,610 and calling to figure out what’s going on. 1462 00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:41,030 Everyone was trying to figure out what was going on, 1463 00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:42,330 but the first person 1464 00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:44,120 who arrived at the hospital to visit me 1465 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,660 was Luke. 1466 00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,460 I got right up where I could see his face, 1467 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,830 and I looked right down into his eyes, 1468 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:50,460 and I said, "Jason," and I talked to him a lot, 1469 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,380 and I screamed at him, and I got really close. 1470 00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:53,710 I was so high, 1471 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:55,710 because I was so broken, 1472 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,300 and I looked at him, and I said, "Coy L. Perry. 1473 00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:02,010 Thanks for coming, man." [laughing] 1474 01:00:02,050 --> 01:00:03,560 I knew that Jay was gonna be all right 1475 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,850 when he said my name, 1476 01:00:04,890 --> 01:00:07,640 um, because he said my name 1477 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,980 as it exists on my birth certificate. 1478 01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:11,360 He didn’t just say, "Hey, Luke." 1479 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,560 My girlfriend, who’s now my wife, 1480 01:00:12,610 --> 01:00:14,520 she was, like, "Oh, no, something’s wrong. 1481 01:00:14,570 --> 01:00:16,990 "Something-- He doesn’t recognize Luke. 1482 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:18,070 This is a big deal!" 1483 01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:19,740 And then Luke had to explain to her 1484 01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:22,570 that his real name was Coy. [laughing] 1485 01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:24,080 He knew that was his job at that time-- 1486 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,330 was to let those people know that he was still-- 1487 01:00:27,370 --> 01:00:28,370 had it going, 1488 01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:30,500 and that’s how smart he is. 1489 01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:31,920 Luke was a great friend 1490 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,040 that you could rely on to turn up, right? 1491 01:00:34,090 --> 01:00:35,420 That was part of his-- 1492 01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:36,760 That was just part of his ethos. 1493 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,420 My relationship with Jason is different 1494 01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:41,090 than any other human being in the world, though, and we-- 1495 01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:44,180 that’s the other thing that he and I know, um... 1496 01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:45,760 Different than brothers, 1497 01:00:45,810 --> 01:00:47,100 different than family. 1498 01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:49,430 We don’t know why it is, we don’t know how it is. 1499 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,850 We just know that’s how it got to, 1500 01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:53,520 and, uh, we’re cool with that. 1501 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,400 He’s--he’s a good one to have on your side. 1502 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,070 The fact that he was there, 1503 01:00:59,110 --> 01:01:00,990 uh, in Kentucky, 1504 01:01:01,030 --> 01:01:04,490 um, you know, a day after I had my accident 1505 01:01:04,530 --> 01:01:07,620 was, uh, it was, uh, it was remarkable. 1506 01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:09,620 It really speaks to his character, right? 1507 01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,000 He was just that kind of guy. 1508 01:01:16,130 --> 01:01:17,340 [Perry] Jason and I, 1509 01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:19,800 we were trying to tell people back then 1510 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,630 that, you know, what’s coming to be true now-- 1511 01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:23,090 we’re gonna do other things 1512 01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:24,550 that aren’t gonna be as successful. 1513 01:01:24,590 --> 01:01:25,510 You gotta know that. 1514 01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,010 Everybody is. 1515 01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:29,560 Not, you know, you don’t hit a grand slam every time up, 1516 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,190 but you also don’t quit coming up to bat either, 1517 01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,980 and, uh, that’s the trick. 1518 01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:35,310 You gotta keep coming up to bat, 1519 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,480 and you hit the ball, and you do what you do. 1520 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,690 I joined Hallmark as an executive, 1521 01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:42,780 and one of my first meetings was with Luke Perry, 1522 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,660 because he had done a movie for Hallmark 1523 01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:46,660 called The Gunfighter’s Pledge, 1524 01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:49,620 and Luke loves Westerns. 1525 01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:52,160 As it turns out, I love Westerns. 1526 01:01:52,210 --> 01:01:54,290 I grew up watching Bonanza, 1527 01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:55,540 and The Wild, Wild West, 1528 01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,880 and the Virginian, all that stuff, 1529 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,670 and we found out we were both from Ohio, 1530 01:02:00,710 --> 01:02:02,840 so we really connected on that. 1531 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,260 Uh, mid-westerners really connect out here 1532 01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:07,510 when they find each other. 1533 01:02:07,550 --> 01:02:08,930 [Priestley] The John Goodnight movies, 1534 01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:12,810 it was a concept that he had written on a legal pad, 1535 01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:15,520 on an airplane one night, flying somewhere, 1536 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,520 and he took it in to Barbara Fisher at Hallmark, 1537 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,320 and sold it! 1538 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,860 The same way he did with 8 Seconds! 1539 01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:23,110 He just, like, walked into an executive’s office, 1540 01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:25,410 said, "Hey, I got this idea. What do you think?" 1541 01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:27,200 [laughing] 1542 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,240 And he didn’t have to really convince me too much. 1543 01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:36,750 Luke played a circuit judge in the wild western territories. 1544 01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:38,710 Luke knew the guy to go to, 1545 01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:40,250 the ranch to go to, 1546 01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,460 the guy, you know, Danny Virtue, 1547 01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:44,220 who dealt with the horses. 1548 01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:46,380 He just-- He was immersed in it, 1549 01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:48,890 but, like so many projects, right? 1550 01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:51,560 If you have the right name, they get made, 1551 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,180 and for us, Luke Perry was the--was a really good name. 1552 01:02:56,770 --> 01:02:58,400 Luke came up with the idea 1553 01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,810 to have Jason Priestley to direct it, 1554 01:02:59,860 --> 01:03:01,440 and we thought, "Oh, my god." 1555 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,570 First of all, this is PR gold, you know? 1556 01:03:03,610 --> 01:03:04,860 But not to mention 1557 01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:06,700 that we knew Jason was a really good director, 1558 01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:08,280 but I just wanted to go 1559 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,530 and watch the two of them together. 1560 01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:14,120 [Priestley] Luke called me. 1561 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,580 He said, "Jay, I’m developing this Western. 1562 01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:16,540 I want to do it with ya," 1563 01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:18,210 so, I said, uh, 1564 01:03:18,250 --> 01:03:19,710 I said, "Hey, great, man, that’s perfect," 1565 01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,090 uh, because Luke and I have been trying for a long time 1566 01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:26,220 to find, uh, something to work on together again. 1567 01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:28,180 [Perry] I have such a good shorthand with Jay, 1568 01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:30,600 and, um, he’s very talented. 1569 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,600 He composes a great frame. 1570 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,810 He is so close to this script, 1571 01:03:33,850 --> 01:03:35,850 and so close to this character already, 1572 01:03:35,890 --> 01:03:37,230 um, because he’s been-- 1573 01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:38,640 You know, he’s been living with this character 1574 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:39,940 for a couple years. 1575 01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:41,440 I got to spend two months, uh, 1576 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,440 just hanging out with Luke every day. 1577 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,440 He would come with me on location scouts, 1578 01:03:45,490 --> 01:03:47,070 and he was super involved, 1579 01:03:47,110 --> 01:03:49,240 and, you know, that-- I think that movie, 1580 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,120 and ultimately that series of movies, 1581 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,490 I think was incredibly important to him. 1582 01:03:54,830 --> 01:03:56,120 [Perry] As a kid, I’d sit around, 1583 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,540 and I’d watch all these Westerns, 1584 01:03:57,580 --> 01:03:58,790 and I just thought, "Well, I’d love to do that, 1585 01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:00,250 and I’d love to do that," 1586 01:04:00,290 --> 01:04:03,040 and now I just, sort of, find myself drawn to stories 1587 01:04:03,090 --> 01:04:04,340 that will allow me to get involved 1588 01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:06,340 in the action sequences of my dreams. 1589 01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:07,340 [screaming] 1590 01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:10,380 [gunshot blasting] 1591 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,970 Who the hell are you? 1592 01:04:15,010 --> 01:04:17,350 My name’s John William Goodnight. 1593 01:04:17,390 --> 01:04:19,190 I’m a circuit judge. 1594 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:20,770 Sworn jurisdiction in this territory. 1595 01:04:20,810 --> 01:04:24,610 There’s two of us and one of you. 1596 01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:26,070 I like those odds. 1597 01:04:26,110 --> 01:04:29,070 When I drop this hammer, one of you is gonna be dead. 1598 01:04:29,110 --> 01:04:30,700 There’s a 50/50 chance that’s you. 1599 01:04:30,740 --> 01:04:32,200 You still like those odds, gambler? 1600 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,950 [gunshots blasting] 1601 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,540 [horse nickering] 1602 01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:43,840 [Priestley] John Goodnight was an alcoholic, 1603 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,920 for sure... [laughing] 1604 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,010 ...and a womanizer, for sure... 1605 01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:51,010 [♪] 1606 01:04:51,050 --> 01:04:53,010 ...and Luke wrote all that into the character, 1607 01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:55,180 and I think that Luke understood 1608 01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:57,100 complex characters are just more interesting, 1609 01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:58,930 and complex characters are what people want to watch. 1610 01:05:01,850 --> 01:05:03,060 [Barbara Fisher] I’ve made a lot of movies, 1611 01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,520 and been in television for a lot of years, 1612 01:05:05,570 --> 01:05:08,230 and I can’t really say 1613 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,860 that I became close friends with the people I worked with, 1614 01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:14,450 but something was different about Luke. 1615 01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:17,080 If you connected with him, you’ve connected, 1616 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,540 and when he felt a connection, 1617 01:05:19,580 --> 01:05:21,790 he made you his friend. 1618 01:05:21,830 --> 01:05:24,880 I mean, I kinda thought, like, you know, we-- 1619 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,590 I was an executive, we got the movies made, 1620 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:27,840 we had a good time, 1621 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,210 kinda end of story, 1622 01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:31,090 but that’s not what Luke did, 1623 01:05:31,130 --> 01:05:32,800 and I didn’t take the lead, Luke did. 1624 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,050 [horse neighing] 1625 01:05:42,350 --> 01:05:44,100 [Wappler] You know, when I started working on this book, 1626 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:47,230 and reading about what an amazing Dad Luke was. 1627 01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:49,150 You know, Luke had two children. 1628 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:51,700 You know, he made choices in his career 1629 01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,820 to be closer to them. 1630 01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:55,820 Like, he wouldn’t take certain jobs or roles, 1631 01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:58,330 because they would take him too far away from his family, 1632 01:05:58,370 --> 01:06:00,830 so he really wanted to be present in his kids’ lives. 1633 01:06:00,870 --> 01:06:02,040 That really meant a lot to him. 1634 01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,880 [Priestley] When Luke and Minnie had Jack, 1635 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,050 I could tell that it affected him, uh, deeply, 1636 01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:11,090 and that, you know, I think he felt the weight 1637 01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:13,470 of, uh, of being a parent, 1638 01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:14,800 like we all do. 1639 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,220 He couldn’t have been happier. 1640 01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:19,890 I think he’d wanted to be a dad for a long time. 1641 01:06:19,930 --> 01:06:22,020 I think being a dad was something he was proud of. 1642 01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,640 Being around kids, um, he really liked. 1643 01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:26,150 He had a soft way. 1644 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,530 [Swanson] I remember his kids being very little, 1645 01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:33,280 and he’d show you pictures. 1646 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,990 He just, he couldn’t stop talking about his kids. 1647 01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:37,990 They were his pride and joy. 1648 01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:58,010 The first time I met him was 90210, 1649 01:06:58,050 --> 01:07:01,720 and I had just moved from Chicago to L.A., 1650 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,980 and I think I did, like... 1651 01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:06,480 maybe three gigs, 1652 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,980 and then I got 90210, 1653 01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,150 and I remember, like, Luke, 1654 01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:12,780 I was, like, "That’s Luke-- That’s Luke Perry. 1655 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:13,820 Oh, my god, that’s Luke-- 1656 01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:15,360 Hi, nice to meet you!" 1657 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,490 And, like, just being cool, "I got it, I got it, I got it." 1658 01:07:17,530 --> 01:07:19,990 I think I only did, like, one or two episodes, 1659 01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:22,240 but, um, it was a very, very brief encounter, 1660 01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:26,160 and then when I saw Luke again on Riverdale, 1661 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:27,710 I was, like, "Do you remember me?" 1662 01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:28,880 and he’s, like, "I totally remember you!" 1663 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,710 On Riverdale, 1664 01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:32,210 we were at the drive-thru, 1665 01:07:32,250 --> 01:07:35,880 where our characters remember their past lives together. 1666 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,130 In that moment, it was art imitating life. 1667 01:07:38,180 --> 01:07:40,680 You know, I’m having deja-vu. 1668 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,810 Yeah, senior year, we’re here watching Candyman. 1669 01:07:43,850 --> 01:07:44,850 God, I hated that movie. 1670 01:07:44,890 --> 01:07:47,190 [laughing] You picked it. 1671 01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:48,980 I was up there alone with my daughter, 1672 01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:52,770 who was, I think, maybe eight or nine at the time, 1673 01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,070 and I hadn’t been to Vancouver, 1674 01:07:55,110 --> 01:07:56,860 so, Luke was, like, "Hey, 1675 01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:58,950 do you know about the little ferry boats? 1676 01:07:58,990 --> 01:08:00,110 You can catch them, 1677 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,160 and they’ll take you and your daughter, 1678 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,620 and you go over to Granville Island. 1679 01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:04,080 You can shop around." 1680 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,950 And I must have looked, like, a little, like, confused 1681 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,080 about where to go, or what to do, 1682 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,870 and he’s, like, "You know what... 1683 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,460 are you free Saturday?" 1684 01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:13,090 And I was, like, "Yeah," 1685 01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:14,750 and he’s, like, "I’ll take you guys," 1686 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,960 and he got us on the ferry, 1687 01:08:16,010 --> 01:08:17,050 and he went and did the whole thing. 1688 01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:19,380 He was just, like, hosting us, 1689 01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:20,840 for no reason whatsoever, 1690 01:08:20,890 --> 01:08:24,350 except for just to be a great guy. 1691 01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:26,930 That’s who Luke was. 1692 01:08:33,020 --> 01:08:34,110 [Gabriel Correa] I think maybe the kids, 1693 01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:35,860 maybe KJ told me the story. 1694 01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:37,650 You know, it was at the end of season one, 1695 01:08:37,690 --> 01:08:39,070 and they were having some dinner here, 1696 01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:41,990 and I think Luke took that as a moment 1697 01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:45,330 to sort of tell them a little piece of advice, 1698 01:08:45,370 --> 01:08:47,160 and, you know, he was not the loudest guy in the room, 1699 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,710 so I can imagine how he sort of presented this, 1700 01:08:51,750 --> 01:08:53,960 but say something to the tune of, like, 1701 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,130 "Your lives are about to change. 1702 01:08:56,170 --> 01:08:57,460 Like, do you realize that," 1703 01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:59,170 and, like, what does that mean, right? 1704 01:08:59,220 --> 01:09:01,930 I honestly don’t know how the kids took it. 1705 01:09:01,970 --> 01:09:04,300 I’m sure some, maybe, believed him, 1706 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:05,810 some not, um, 1707 01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,810 but, you know, if you think of Luke’s career, 1708 01:09:08,850 --> 01:09:10,850 to him, it’s kind of, like, "I’ve seen it all. 1709 01:09:10,890 --> 01:09:12,940 I’ve seen the good, the bad, the ugly, 1710 01:09:12,980 --> 01:09:15,190 and I’m here sort of telling you 1711 01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:18,070 that despite what you think is gonna happen to you, 1712 01:09:18,110 --> 01:09:19,490 I lived through it, 1713 01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:20,490 and this is the reality." 1714 01:09:22,110 --> 01:09:23,570 [Michael Scott] Well, I think it’s, you know, 1715 01:09:23,610 --> 01:09:25,620 he saw himself in them, 1716 01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:26,620 -the way he had been-- -Yeah. 1717 01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:27,910 ...you know, back then, 1718 01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:29,410 and he wished, I think, 1719 01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:32,460 that--that somebody had told him a little bit of the ropes, 1720 01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:34,790 and I think he probably learned the hard way, 1721 01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:38,880 in terms of the challenges of being, you know, 1722 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,170 an ensemble in a series, 1723 01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:43,180 and some of the politics, and jockeying for position. 1724 01:09:43,220 --> 01:09:44,800 I mean, there’s all kinds of other layers 1725 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,930 that go on behind the scenes. 1726 01:09:45,970 --> 01:09:47,810 That just makes sense to me 1727 01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:49,310 that he would want to mentor, 1728 01:09:49,350 --> 01:09:51,850 in a fatherly kind of way, these people, 1729 01:09:51,890 --> 01:09:53,520 these young-- these young actors, 1730 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,690 because I think he was a real mentoring type. 1731 01:09:56,730 --> 01:09:58,070 That’s kind of who he was. 1732 01:09:58,110 --> 01:09:59,820 Not everybody’s good at that. 1733 01:09:59,860 --> 01:10:01,190 Luke was really good at that. 1734 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,280 [Hoda Kotb] Luke, do you have any advice? 1735 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,700 Because sometimes, I mean, look, 1736 01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:04,910 everyone who’s gone through that, you’ve been-- 1737 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:05,870 Yeah, and especially with this one, 1738 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:06,830 because he’s so talented, 1739 01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:07,660 and such a great actor. 1740 01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:09,160 Concentrate on the work, 1741 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,120 and play different parts, you know, 1742 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,120 and treat everybody well, 1743 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,210 and he’s--he’s doing great. 1744 01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:27,010 [Correa] I started on Riverdale as an Assistant Director, 1745 01:10:27,050 --> 01:10:29,640 and for people who have no idea what that is, 1746 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,680 you’re like a conductor. 1747 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,810 Luke was there, 1748 01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:33,430 and, you know, he’d pull me to the side, 1749 01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:35,650 and he’s, like... 1750 01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:38,440 "I see what you’re doing, you know?" 1751 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,190 He’s like... 1752 01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:41,940 "Next year, 1753 01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:43,940 I think you should be directing one of these, 1754 01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:45,610 but you just-- you just do your thing, 1755 01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:46,950 and it’s gonna happen," 1756 01:10:46,990 --> 01:10:51,040 and then he said-- He said, "We’ll push for it..." 1757 01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:56,250 And... 1758 01:10:56,290 --> 01:10:59,710 after I got a chance to direct there, 1759 01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:01,460 I did my first episode. 1760 01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:03,380 I had one scene with Luke. 1761 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:05,720 He comes to me after he’s wrapped, 1762 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,260 and he’s, like, "Hey... 1763 01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:09,600 you’re doing amazing, man. 1764 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,010 Like, I see what you’re doing. 1765 01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:13,640 You’re smart, you’re getting what you need. 1766 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,140 Just don’t think about it. 1767 01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,100 Just keep breathing. 1768 01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:17,560 Do your thing. 1769 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,060 Don’t overthink, do your thing. You’re doing amazing." 1770 01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:21,400 100%! 1771 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:22,320 We’re gonna sing like we’re at karaoke. Like... 1772 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,400 [Correa] To me, it was very clear 1773 01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,660 that Luke’s support was about the work, 1774 01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:29,070 and that’s what was really cool, 1775 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,990 because he was a pro. 1776 01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:38,460 [Young] "All journeys in life start with one step. 1777 01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:40,460 I took a step into your office, 1778 01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:43,420 and it was the first step on the trip of my life. 1779 01:11:43,460 --> 01:11:44,670 What a ride! 1780 01:11:44,710 --> 01:11:46,300 Thanks for believing in me. 1781 01:11:46,340 --> 01:11:48,800 Love, Luke Perry." 1782 01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:52,180 After Luke was hired, 1783 01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:53,640 he came to my office, 1784 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,390 and he said, "I have a present-- 1785 01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:56,770 couple presents I wanna give you," 1786 01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:58,730 and I said, "A magnifying glass?" 1787 01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:00,190 He says, "Yes, that’s for you 1788 01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:01,610 to keep looking for more people, 1789 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:05,280 and-- like you did, and you found me," 1790 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,200 and he goes, "And the horseshoe is for luck in finding them." 1791 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,820 [laughing] 1792 01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:11,200 [♪] 1793 01:12:14,290 --> 01:12:16,540 Could’ve been, like, four years after I’m living in Los Angeles, 1794 01:12:16,580 --> 01:12:19,000 something happened to me where I ended up in the hospital 1795 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,630 for three months, 1796 01:12:20,670 --> 01:12:24,130 and one of my friends shared a manager with Luke, 1797 01:12:24,170 --> 01:12:25,460 so, unbeknownst to me, 1798 01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,800 she wrote an email to her manager, 1799 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,590 and was, like, "My friend is a huge fan of Luke Perry. 1800 01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:33,760 Is there any way he could call her, 1801 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,560 or send her a ’Get Well’ card?" 1802 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,850 So, one day, um, I’m in the hospital, 1803 01:12:38,890 --> 01:12:41,480 and I had just had a sponge bath, 1804 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,860 and I have no makeup on, 1805 01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:46,320 I have, like, my-- and my glasses on, 1806 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,240 you know, my hair’s in a French braid. 1807 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,530 I basically look like how I looked 1808 01:12:49,570 --> 01:12:51,910 when I was nine years old, watching the show. 1809 01:12:51,950 --> 01:12:53,820 The door opens... 1810 01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:56,490 ...and I swear to God, 1811 01:12:56,540 --> 01:12:58,290 Luke Perry is standing at my door, 1812 01:12:58,330 --> 01:13:00,000 and he walks in, 1813 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,670 and he shuts the door behind him, 1814 01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:02,630 and he comes over, 1815 01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:03,830 and he, like, hugs me, 1816 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,130 and now I’m, like, crying in his arm, 1817 01:13:06,170 --> 01:13:08,170 and then I realize I’m crying in Luke Perry’s arm, 1818 01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:09,630 so then I start crying harder, 1819 01:13:09,670 --> 01:13:12,380 and then he goes, "It’s okay. 1820 01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:14,180 It’s just you and me. 1821 01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:15,850 It’s just you and me right now." 1822 01:13:15,890 --> 01:13:17,520 [slapping table] I’m, like, "This guy... 1823 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,930 This guy!" 1824 01:13:18,970 --> 01:13:22,520 You know, he was so patient with me and my freakout, 1825 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,350 and then, eventually, I collected myself, 1826 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,610 and he pulled up a chair, 1827 01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:27,280 and he sat across from my hospital bed, 1828 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,530 and we chatted. 1829 01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:30,110 We just talked for, like, an hour, 1830 01:13:30,150 --> 01:13:32,530 and it was all so surreal, 1831 01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:36,240 and just a quick note on be careful what you wish for, 1832 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,120 because I was not wearing sweatpants 1833 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,370 the day I met Luke Perry. 1834 01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:41,370 I was wearing no pants. 1835 01:13:41,410 --> 01:13:42,500 Then he says, 1836 01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:43,750 "I’m so glad 1837 01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:46,040 your mom didn’t take you to the mall that day, 1838 01:13:46,090 --> 01:13:48,250 because that’s not how we were supposed to meet. 1839 01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:50,210 This is how we were supposed to meet, 1840 01:13:50,260 --> 01:13:52,220 because now we know each other." 1841 01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:54,220 I mean-- and, by the way, also, 1842 01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:55,430 now I forgive my mom 1843 01:13:55,470 --> 01:13:57,050 for not taking me to the Freehold Mall. 1844 01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,390 I’ve been in movies, I’ve- 1845 01:13:59,430 --> 01:14:01,390 I’ve done very, very cool things. 1846 01:14:01,430 --> 01:14:03,390 I survived a car crash. 1847 01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,230 This was the best day of my life. 1848 01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:06,810 [♪] 1849 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,010 [Winters] He didn’t call me 1850 01:14:33,050 --> 01:14:35,090 when he booked Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 1851 01:14:35,130 --> 01:14:36,680 I saw it in the trades. 1852 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,260 I called him immediately. 1853 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,100 I was, like, "You mother--" 1854 01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:42,480 I was, like, "I am so [bleep] happy for you," 1855 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,180 because everyone wants to be in a Tarantino film. 1856 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:45,270 Period. 1857 01:14:45,310 --> 01:14:46,690 So, I mean, I called him, 1858 01:14:46,730 --> 01:14:48,360 and I was, like, "Luke," I was like, "This is amazing!" 1859 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,520 He’s, like, "I know, brother." 1860 01:14:49,570 --> 01:14:50,980 He goes, "Isn’t this crazy?" 1861 01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:54,110 He goes, "I didn’t think this was ever going to happen." 1862 01:14:54,150 --> 01:14:55,280 I go, "How did it happen?" 1863 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,490 He goes, "I don’t know." 1864 01:14:56,530 --> 01:14:58,620 I met him at the read-through 1865 01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:00,620 for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 1866 01:15:00,660 --> 01:15:03,620 We, more or less, were two guys 1867 01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:06,960 known for their television work, 1868 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,460 and there we were surrounded by movie stars, 1869 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:13,630 so, you know, immediate sort of connection, 1870 01:15:13,670 --> 01:15:18,430 as in, "How about us hanging out at the table? 1871 01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:19,550 How’d we find ourselves here?" 1872 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,310 [paparazzi shouting] 1873 01:15:22,350 --> 01:15:23,310 [Olyphant] I remember 1874 01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:24,850 even Margot Robbie was, like, 1875 01:15:24,890 --> 01:15:26,390 "I’ve never been to a read-through like this," 1876 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,690 and I was just like, "Yeah." 1877 01:15:29,150 --> 01:15:30,940 I just remember Quentin, 1878 01:15:30,980 --> 01:15:33,690 his respect for Luke, 1879 01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:36,820 and how psyched he was that he was doing it. 1880 01:15:36,860 --> 01:15:38,200 You know, he was in that powder-blue suit, 1881 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,490 and I was in the cool red shirt 1882 01:15:40,530 --> 01:15:42,990 with the brown leather jacket. 1883 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,200 I remember saying to him, 1884 01:15:44,250 --> 01:15:45,500 "I don’t know if we got the coolest part, 1885 01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:47,830 but we definitely got the coolest wardrobe," 1886 01:15:47,870 --> 01:15:51,130 and, you know, he had that thing that, um... 1887 01:15:51,170 --> 01:15:52,340 You know, you’re on a set 1888 01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:53,920 and you’re behind a monitor, 1889 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,170 and they’re showing you playback or something, 1890 01:15:56,220 --> 01:15:57,720 and even if the take’s fine, 1891 01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,680 even if it’s really good, 1892 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,300 I remember always seeing, like, 1893 01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:02,760 when they called "Cut," 1894 01:16:02,810 --> 01:16:06,180 that was the most natural moment right there, right? 1895 01:16:06,230 --> 01:16:08,770 [laughing] Right? 1896 01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:10,230 My point being 1897 01:16:10,270 --> 01:16:12,690 is my experiences working with Luke 1898 01:16:12,730 --> 01:16:14,360 is you couldn’t tell the difference. 1899 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,490 It didn’t matter whether we were rolling 1900 01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:17,950 or not rolling, 1901 01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:20,030 you’re just talking to Luke Perry. 1902 01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:22,410 He and I were sitting across from each other 1903 01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:23,530 in that little stagecoach, 1904 01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:25,080 and we definitely had those moments. 1905 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,250 I remember looking at him 1906 01:16:26,290 --> 01:16:28,370 and saying, "Look at us, you and me." 1907 01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:29,920 And... cut! 1908 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,210 You know, Quentin does this thing-- 1909 01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:32,380 Shooting on film, 1910 01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:33,880 it’s the old thing, right? 1911 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,960 He wants two takes, and he’s moving on. 1912 01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:37,630 He refers to those two takes 1913 01:16:37,670 --> 01:16:40,550 as the big sister and little sister, 1914 01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:43,470 so we’re doing that stagecoach scene, 1915 01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:44,470 we did that whole take, 1916 01:16:44,510 --> 01:16:46,020 the scene you just showed me, 1917 01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,810 and Quentin says, you know, 1918 01:16:48,850 --> 01:16:51,150 "We have our second sister..." 1919 01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:53,650 and so the whole crew starts to pick up, 1920 01:16:53,690 --> 01:16:55,770 knowing that means we’re moving on, 1921 01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:59,530 and then Quentin says, "But you know what? 1922 01:16:59,570 --> 01:17:01,860 Let’s do one more," 1923 01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:07,160 and the crew within earshot all yell, "Why?" 1924 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,830 and then, the crew then, 1925 01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:11,000 within further out, 1926 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,130 ’cause they heard everybody yell, "Why?" 1927 01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:16,840 all yell, in unison, at the top of their lungs, 1928 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,220 "Because we love making movies!" 1929 01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:21,930 And then everybody cheers, 1930 01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:24,760 and they go back to one. 1931 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,850 And... [ chuckling] and I remember that moment, 1932 01:17:28,890 --> 01:17:30,810 and I look across at him, 1933 01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:33,190 and he pulls up that blue suit, 1934 01:17:33,230 --> 01:17:34,190 and he goes-- 1935 01:17:34,230 --> 01:17:35,360 shows me his arm, 1936 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,570 he’s got goosebumps all over his arm... 1937 01:17:37,610 --> 01:17:39,150 [laughing] 1938 01:17:39,190 --> 01:17:42,530 ...and I just thought, "Yeah, you and me both, buddy, 1939 01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:44,700 you and me both. Not bad." 1940 01:17:44,740 --> 01:17:47,280 Leo, you have this amazing scene with Luke Perry 1941 01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:48,450 who plays a TV actor-- 1942 01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:49,700 See, honey? 1943 01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:53,290 I told you they’d come to parlay. 1944 01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:55,290 You all right, honey? 1945 01:17:55,330 --> 01:17:57,250 Oh, she’s just fine. 1946 01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:59,460 [DiCaprio] I was just immediately struck 1947 01:17:59,510 --> 01:18:01,380 by his--his kindness. 1948 01:18:01,420 --> 01:18:05,050 And you know, talking about being a native of Los Angeles, 1949 01:18:05,090 --> 01:18:07,930 being around this industry my entire life, 1950 01:18:07,970 --> 01:18:09,680 and really having it, you know, in a lot of ways, 1951 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,640 shaped who I am. 1952 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,560 I--There was this immediate excitement 1953 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,060 in seeing Luke Perry, you know, on set. 1954 01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:18,980 -[chuckling] -It was incredible. 1955 01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:21,990 I--I remember being, you know, in my teens, 1956 01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:25,660 and he was the manifestation of the new Dean on television, 1957 01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:27,370 and everyone was crazy about him, 1958 01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:29,740 and I actu-- I felt this overwhelming feeling 1959 01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:31,910 of kind of being starstruck, 1960 01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:33,750 but then he and I got to sit down 1961 01:18:33,790 --> 01:18:36,380 and talk about Los Angeles, the ’90s, 1962 01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,630 his life, where he-- where his career had gone, 1963 01:18:39,670 --> 01:18:40,800 where my career had gone, 1964 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,420 where his life had gone, where my-- 1965 01:18:42,460 --> 01:18:45,340 and I could-- I was just so, um... 1966 01:18:45,380 --> 01:18:46,590 how do I say this? 1967 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,800 The kindness of his character, 1968 01:18:48,850 --> 01:18:51,720 just an incredibly generous human being. 1969 01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:55,350 [news reporter] Family, friends, and fans 1970 01:18:55,390 --> 01:18:57,770 are mourning the death of actor, Luke Perry, 1971 01:18:57,810 --> 01:19:00,110 who died this morning at the age of 52, 1972 01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:03,070 following a massive stroke last week. 1973 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,910 His publicist says he died in L.A., 1974 01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:10,830 surrounded by his family and friends. 1975 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,000 [Priestley] The morning that Luke had his stroke, 1976 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,330 I was at home. 1977 01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:18,830 I was in my kitchen, 1978 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:19,880 and my phone rang, 1979 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:20,960 and it was Jenny... 1980 01:19:22,210 --> 01:19:26,170 ...and Jenny told me that Luke had had a stroke, 1981 01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:27,300 and they were-- 1982 01:19:27,340 --> 01:19:29,470 and he was on his way to the hospital, 1983 01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:31,140 and I was shocked, 1984 01:19:31,180 --> 01:19:32,680 and I was stunned. 1985 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,100 I think Brian Austin Green texted me. 1986 01:19:36,140 --> 01:19:38,400 I not sure-- I don’t think it had hit the press yet, 1987 01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:40,190 and, uh... 1988 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,820 Yeah. That was... sucked. 1989 01:19:50,410 --> 01:19:52,530 [bleep] terrible. 1990 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:53,450 I had just-- I had-- 1991 01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:54,750 I knew someone 1992 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,750 who had passed away from a stroke before that, 1993 01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:58,160 and so I didn’t have a whole lot of faith. 1994 01:19:58,210 --> 01:19:59,790 I wanted to, you know? 1995 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,340 I don’t think anyone used the word "brother" with me 1996 01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:06,010 the way that he did. 1997 01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:09,130 We had really great conversations, 1998 01:20:09,180 --> 01:20:12,220 and almost nothing to do with the business, 1999 01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:13,430 you know what I mean? 2000 01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:14,680 So I appreciated that about him. 2001 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,350 I just--I just miss, uh, 2002 01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:17,850 I miss having him as a friend. 2003 01:20:17,890 --> 01:20:21,060 I hope I see him again sometime, you know? 2004 01:20:24,690 --> 01:20:26,230 If Luke was here... 2005 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,490 ...I would tell him, 2006 01:20:29,530 --> 01:20:30,610 first of all, 2007 01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:32,450 I’m so sorry... 2008 01:20:32,490 --> 01:20:34,370 that you didn’t get more time. 2009 01:20:37,870 --> 01:20:40,210 Luke Perry’s in Heaven. 2010 01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:43,130 I’m a crazy Christian. 2011 01:20:43,170 --> 01:20:45,460 He’s riding all the best bulls now, bro. 2012 01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:46,550 [laughing] 2013 01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:47,710 He’s on the-- 2014 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,090 He’s-He’s on the ultimate ranch now. 2015 01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:55,600 [Swanson] He was just one of those people 2016 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,020 that touched my life in such a great way, 2017 01:20:59,060 --> 01:21:02,560 and someone that I looked up to, 2018 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,360 someone I admired, 2019 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,730 appreciated, 2020 01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:08,690 just one of those people that you just-- 2021 01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:09,990 that they’re always in your mind, 2022 01:21:10,030 --> 01:21:11,070 and you’ll never forget them. 2023 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:20,500 [whispering] Thank you. 2024 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,790 [deep breath] 2025 01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:31,470 I’m an eternal optimist. 2026 01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:32,760 I thought, "Yeah, he’s had a stroke. 2027 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,550 You know, my dad had a stroke a few years ago. 2028 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,060 You know, he’ll be-- he’ll be okay." 2029 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:40,890 At that point in time, I was talking to Jenny, 2030 01:21:40,930 --> 01:21:42,310 and I was talking to Ian, I was talking to Brian, 2031 01:21:42,350 --> 01:21:45,360 I was talking to Gabby, I was talking to everybody... 2032 01:21:46,690 --> 01:21:49,320 ...and then he passed away, and it was, um... 2033 01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:56,780 ...it was, uh, it was-- 2034 01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:58,910 It was a shock, and it was sad, 2035 01:21:58,950 --> 01:22:02,370 ’cause... he was a... 2036 01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:09,340 ...he was a bright light. 2037 01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:17,550 When my time here is up, 2038 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,890 I don’t wanna look back 2039 01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:20,520 and see that I didn’t do anything, you know? 2040 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,060 And by that, I mean, uh, 2041 01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:24,480 I didn’t have any effect on anything else, I didn’t... 2042 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,850 I see a lot of people 2043 01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:27,900 that let their life happen to them, 2044 01:22:27,940 --> 01:22:29,770 and I want to happen to my life. 2045 01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,400 I don’t want my life to happen to me. 2046 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,200 [♪] 152467

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