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[♪]
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[Jason Priestley]
When 90210 hit,
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it was a life-changing event.
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[crowd clamoring,
cameras snapping]
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[♪]
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[Priestley] But anytime
you’re a teen heartthrob...
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[teens screaming]
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...everyone just assumes
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that you can’t be
that good of an actor,
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and you’re just
a good-looking kid...
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[♪]
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[teens screaming]
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[news reporter]
Look familiar?
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Teenage frenzy
as old as your Elvis records,
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but this is 1992,
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and these girls are here
to see Luke Perry.
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[teens screaming,
cameras clicking]
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[Priestley] ...but I think
Luke understood the importance
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of letting the world know
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that he was more than just
this Dylan McKay character
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that all the teenage girls
had posters of
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up in their bedroom.
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[teens screaming]
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[news reporter] Luke Perry
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has signed
a lot of autographs lately
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thanks to Beverly Hills 90210.
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About a year ago,
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the teen drama
turned this little-known actor
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into Hollywood’s latest idol.
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[Kristy Swanson] There was
a time when I was in my trailer,
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and I heard
a bunch of screaming,
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like, high squeals.
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Like--
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[teens screaming]
There’s Luke Perry!
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There’s Luke Perry, oh my god!
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[screaming]
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They were screaming
like The Beatles were there,
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you know what I mean?
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It was just-- It was wild.
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[teens screaming]
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[♪]
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I think Luke had tons
of celebrity problems.
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I don’t have those problems.
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[news reporter]
This is a moment
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more than 7,000 teenagers
waited for,
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but the excitement
was uncontrollable.
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You catch yourself wanting
those problems, you know,
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but you don’t want
those problems.
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[Dean Winters]
I think, at the time,
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Brad Pitt and DiCaprio
were coming up,
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but they weren’t--
they weren’t Luke Perry,
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do you know what I mean?
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I mean, he was probably
the biggest actor on the planet.
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[crowd screaming]
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[Marisol Nichols]
Luke was iconic.
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He really was,
I mean, he was "Luke Perry."
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[crowd shouting]
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[Nichols]
With his amount of fame,
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you could phone it in,
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but Luke never phoned it in,
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ever.
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[Luke Perry] I always thought
that I would succeed somehow,
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but you don’t...
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Well, you don’t think
it’s going to be like this.
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I mean,
I certainly didn’t think
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it was gonna be like this.
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[♪]
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[Stephen Baldwin]
Certain actors,
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when they get that stigma
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of "handsome" and "good looks",
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they’ll go and do performances
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to get around that,
prove themselves,
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but more importantly,
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satisfy their own
artistic motivations,
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so...
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that’s my favorite part
of knowing Luke,
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and having been
friends with him,
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was that he was
that "real deal" as an actor.
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[Winters] As an actor,
I learned from Luke.
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I was doing a show called Oz,
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and Luke was the character
Jeremiah Cloutier,
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and I remember
he was a pro at stillness,
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and film and television acting
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is about being still.
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[Timothy Olyphant]
My experience working with Luke
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was he didn’t seem like
a huge celebrity.
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He just seemed like
a working actor,
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and I mean that
in the best way.
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[Perry]
If I’m the flash-in-the-pan,
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or all that everyone tells you
you’re gonna be,
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maybe so,
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but I’ll go down fighting.
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Luke had a lot of
creative drive inside him,
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and he wanted to do... more.
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He wanted to do more.
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[♪]
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[Margaret Wappler]
Luke was raised
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by his mom and his stepfather
in Fredericktown, Ohio,
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and it’s just
this little farming town.
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It’s only about 2,500 people.
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I didn’t see my first Porsche
until I got to California,
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so, uh, you know,
I wasn’t brought up wealthy.
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I was brought up well.
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[Margaret Wappler]
From a young age,
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he loved watching TV
with his mom,
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particularly soap operas--
that was her favorite--
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and then after school,
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he’d come home,
he’d watch TV Westerns,
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and he was completely fascinated
by the performers.
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[cocking gun]
That’s right, Lon.
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Now, up in here right quick.
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[Wappler] By the time
he was in high school,
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he knew he wanted
to become an actor.
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The dream--
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it was just
completely formed in his mind,
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and he would tell, like,
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you know,
anyone who would listen.
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The problem was Fredericktown,
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he just wasn’t gonna get far
with that dream there,
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so when he turned 18,
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he picked up,
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he moved to New York,
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and he began
the grind of auditioning.
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[David Sheinkopf]
I was in New York,
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and I was going out for a movie
called Young Guns,
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and I met this guy
in the casting office,
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and it was just--
it was just me and him,
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and he had on, like, this-
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this, like,
kinda cowboy-ish hat,
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and, uh, it was Luke.
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We kind of, like,
traded a couple of stories,
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and neither of us got the role,
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and, you know,
we were just, like,
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"Hey, you know, we’ll hang out."
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I booked a job for a show
called Another World.
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They would pick everybody up
in a stretch limo,
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and I opened the door,
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and Luke is sitting there...
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[laughing] and it was, like,
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it was perfect.
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Originally,
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the goal was to see myself
on a television set,
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because I didn’t know
if it could be done.
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Um, so then I saw that,
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and then I fell in love
with acting
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somewhere along the way.
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I think you’re blaming
your mother for your problems.
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She is my problem.
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-Is she?
-Yes.
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Or is it Matt?
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[Sheinkopf] And his mom
absolutely loved soaps,
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and she was so proud of him.
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From then on, we just--
we became friends,
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and, um, it was a friendship
that lasted for decades.
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[Wappler]
He did two soap operas,
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Loving, and Another World,
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and after that,
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he decides to go to L.A.
for pilot season for 1990.
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[Priestley]
Back in the old days,
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when we actually had
a pilot season,
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it was like going
to acting bootcamp for a month,
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and actors would fly in
from all over the country,
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and we’d all stay
at the Oakwood Gardens
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on Barham Avenue,
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so there’d be, like,
a million young actors in there,
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and then, like, you know,
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50 freshly divorced Dads.
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Like, it was really, uh,
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it was hilarious.
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If you were
a fresh piece of meat in town,
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that nobody had seen,
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it was, like,
five auditions a day,
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and then you’d come home
at the end of the night,
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and there’d be
another stack of scripts,
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and so you’d be in there
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reading, you know,
all the scripts every night,
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and preparing for the next day,
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and then, so you’d go out,
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and do four or five
more auditions,
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and it was like that for weeks,
after weeks, after weeks.
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That part of it is business.
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Um, the actual performing
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and the creating of a character,
that’s pleasure,
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but the going through
the political process
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of getting a job,
that’s business.
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I was on a show
in California for a few months,
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and Luke called me.
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He said,
"I’m gonna come out to LA."
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He’s, like,
"Can I crash on your couch?"
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and I said, "My couch is yours,"
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and then, uh, he got a place
over at the Arquettes.
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The Arquettes
had a spare room or something,
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and Luke’s, like, "Hey, man,
I found this place.
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Do you wanna rent it with me?"
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and I was, like, "Absolutely,"
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and that’s kinda
how Mansfield began.
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Man...
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Crazy.
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The old--the old palace.
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So this was-this was my room,
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and then right through that door
is the bathroom.
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You can see that little window.
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That little minute of light,
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and then you make a quick left,
and that was Luke’s room.
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He wanted the back room.
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He’s, like, "Dude,
you can have the bigger room.
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I just want the back room."
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I’m, like, "Cool."
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Uh, while we lived here,
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he was working in Diamond Bar,
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and he was doing--
he was doing random stuff,
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’cause that’s what he knew.
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Like, he knew
how to do construction,
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and he won the coin flip,
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so he got the garage,
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and then, you know,
this whole backyard,
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it was, you know...
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and we used to have parties
out here,
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so it was kind of
a cool spot, you know?
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How long have you lived here?
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A little over a year.
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[Maria Shriver interview]
When Perry left New York,
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he ended up here,
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in this rented
two-bedroom house in Hollywood.
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Not exactly the kind of place
you’d find
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on Lifestyles
of the Rich and Famous.
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[Perry] Wipe your feet.
Ha, ha.
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[Shriver] Yeah, ha, ha.
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Who decorated this house,
first of all?
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I decorated this house.
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You did?
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Well, I didn’t really
decorate it,
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but my stuff is in here.
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This room, I can’t go in,
because it’s--
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Not because it’s your bedroom,
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but because you’ve got
your pig in there,
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and you won’t let the pig
go on camera.
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Exactly.
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You’re very protective
of your pig.
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I certainly am.
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Now, why won’t you let
your pig go on camera?
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It’s not so much my choice.
I give him the option.
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-It’s the pig’s choice?
-Exactly.
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I’ve given him the option
numerous times
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to appear on, you know,
talk shows, magazines.
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He declines.
I’m not gonna push it.
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And you’ve asked him
about appearing on this show?
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He’s got a big thing for you.
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The pig is crazy about you,
but, you know...
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He was always tinkering
with something, you know?
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He always had his hands busy.
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He loved to do things.
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We had these old leaf hinges
on the-- in the kitchen,
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and he ripped them all down,
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and he, like,
was dipping these old hinges
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into, you know, um,
paint thinner.
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I’m, like, "What are you doing?"
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He’s, like, "They’re copper,"
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and I said, "Oh,"
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and then
he painted the kitchen grey,
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and he did black linoleum
on the floor,
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and, you know,
he, like, made it home,
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because that’s
what he did, you know?
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Home was where he made it.
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[Perry] I never really
felt completely
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the place where I lived
was where I should be.
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I always felt--
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I never felt like I was
running away from something,
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but I did always feel that
I was running to something.
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[Sheinkopf]
I give actors much props,
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because it’s a hard life.
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You take rejection
for a living.
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For Luke, I don’t think
"not making it"
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was an option for him.
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I think he took it on the chin
pretty well, you know?
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I mean, I think that, you know,
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going on as many auditions
as he did,
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and not getting them,
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it just drove him
to do more, you know?
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You were in it to win it.
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Last man standing.
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[Dianne Young] I was casting
the television version
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of Ferris Bueller’s Day off,
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and Luke came in.
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I looked at him and I thought,
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"You are so not
what I’m looking for, for this,"
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and he goes,
"I know, I know,"
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he just-- and he said,
"But I know who you are,
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and I wanted to meet you,
and if we could..."
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and I said, "That’s fine,
you know, come in, have a seat,"
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and we sat and we chatted
for quite a while
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about things,
and what he wanted to do,
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and he was very sweet,
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and I just thought...
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Sometimes, you get a feeling,
and I just thought, "Hmm...
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I have to remember this guy."
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[interviewer] 219 auditions.
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I am in awe that you held on
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and were willing to do it.
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Where does it come from?
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Well, in all fairness,
it was 216, and it...
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A fear of failure, I guess,
you know?
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It’s easy to--
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You hear "No" a lot,
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but it only means no
if you believe it.
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Everybody auditioned
for that role of his,
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everybody, like, you know,
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they were looking far and wide
for that role.
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[Young] I came in knowing
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that they were adding
a character to 90210,
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but he was the bad boy.
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Chuck told me
about the character.
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The more he talked,
the more I thought, "Oh...
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I know who this should be."
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When the reading was over,
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I just kind of waited,
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and Chuck turned to me
and said, "That’s the guy."
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He was perfect.
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There wasn’t anything more
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that you could say to Luke
at that point,
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of how to play the character.
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He understood it.
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There was something raw inside
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that he just intuitively got,
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and Mr. Spelling
certainly saw that
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at the time that we were
doing the audition.
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When we did the audition
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for the Fox Broadcasting
company, however,
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Luke was nervous,
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and it didn’t happen
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in the way that we had
all hoped it would play.
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The network didn’t understand
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why we were asking
for more money
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to put this character in,
335
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and they weren’t gonna go there,
336
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and Mr. Spelling,
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who often doesn’t volunteer
his own wallet for things,
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said, "I’ll pay for him,"
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and so, the special bond
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00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,440
that Luke Perry had
with Aaron Spelling
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was formed in that moment.
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00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,890
[Priestley] So, Luke and I
met for the first time--
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Chuck Rosin decided to have
a table reading
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for the first episode,
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00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,520
and after the table reading,
346
00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:16,850
-Luke and I--
-Hey.
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00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:18,400
--were outside on the porch
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in front of Chuck’s house--
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My name’s, uh, Brandon Walsh.
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Brandon Walsh...
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00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:25,820
Scotch or Irish?
352
00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:29,280
Both, actually,
353
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by way of Minnesota.
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00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,290
Especially
in that first episode,
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00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:35,330
it was all about Dylan McKay,
the surfing guy,
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00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:36,460
and the surfer, and...
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00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,620
and so, I said to him, I said,
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"Do you surf, dude?"
359
00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:41,670
and he said,
"Never surfed a day in my life."
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00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:43,380
I said, "We’re gonna get along
just fine,"
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00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:47,260
and, uh, you know, we were just
thick as thieves after that.
362
00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:56,270
[Chuck Rosin]
Why was surf culture important
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to bring into Dylan’s character
in 90210?
364
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,730
I thought it really connected
to the spiritual side of Dylan,
365
00:15:02,770 --> 00:15:05,230
and I thought Luke
just carried that,
366
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,570
and really picked that up.
367
00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:08,950
Surf culture had to be
part of the beach culture.
368
00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:10,740
If you’re talking
Beverly Hills--
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This is before we even
created anything
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00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:14,910
called the "Beverly Hills
Beach Club",
371
00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:18,160
but if you talk about
what California has to offer,
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00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:21,960
it’s not
its cosmopolitan architecture,
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and even though we do have
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a lot of
really smart people here,
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00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:27,880
it isn’t even our institutional,
376
00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,510
or academic, um, connections,
377
00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:33,140
it’s our physical beauty.
378
00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:37,230
Our proximity to the desert,
the mountains, and the sea.
379
00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,560
I don’t know [bleep] about
the desert or the mountains,
380
00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,940
but I know about the ocean.
381
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,370
So, Luke didn’t
join the cast of 90210
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00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:56,540
until the first episode.
383
00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:57,790
He was not in the pilot.
384
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,790
Aaron wanted to add a hunk,
385
00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:03,290
but a guy that was more
than just a hunk.
386
00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:05,960
Like, a guy who was--
a guy who was complicated.
387
00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,340
Dylan McKay pretended to be
a tough guy,
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00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:11,550
but was also super sensitive,
389
00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:13,180
and would get his feelings hurt,
390
00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:16,010
and he was--and he was
really trying to, like,
391
00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:19,930
sort out what it was to be a...
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00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:21,730
a responsible human,
393
00:16:21,770 --> 00:16:24,770
because he wasn’t raised
by a responsible human.
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00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:28,280
Luke was the perfect guy
for that.
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00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,440
He could play it really cool,
396
00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:32,030
but then he was also not afraid
397
00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,070
to make really bold choices.
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00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,160
I’m an idiot!
399
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,030
Please don’t leave.
400
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,410
You’re scaring me!
401
00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,410
I’m sorry.
402
00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,460
Dylan, what happened?
403
00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:48,250
My dad, he just gets to me.
404
00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:50,210
He always gets to me.
405
00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:53,380
I don’t know
what I’m supposed to...
406
00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,640
Oh!
407
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[♪]
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[Rosin] We had finished
our first season,
409
00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:08,230
and I had a call
with the network.
410
00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:10,190
Barry Diller,
a very particular man,
411
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:13,320
started the meeting by saying,
yes, 90210 is working
412
00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:17,580
but, uh, does it belong
on "our air"?
413
00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:19,910
As if-- Because Fox,
you know, had attitude,
414
00:17:19,950 --> 00:17:21,200
and did we have enough attitude?
415
00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:22,580
[♪]
416
00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:24,080
[Wappler] So, when the show
first starts, you know,
417
00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,960
it’s a non-union production.
418
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,080
Nobody really cares about it.
419
00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:28,340
Like, it’s just happening
420
00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:30,590
and, you know, maybe it’ll land,
maybe it won’t.
421
00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:33,550
Fox was a fledgling network
at that point,
422
00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:35,380
and Mr. Murdoch,
423
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:37,430
with the Fox Broadcasting
Service,
424
00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:40,260
had just bought
the satellite in China,
425
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:43,230
and so, he needed to put
his money there,
426
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:44,480
and they didn’t--
427
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,520
Fox Broadcasting really
just didn’t have enough
428
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,810
to make a TV show
right at that moment
429
00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:50,190
to replace us,
430
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:53,570
and then what happens
is the Gulf War breaks out.
431
00:17:53,610 --> 00:17:55,780
We do not need another Hitler.
432
00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:59,780
[Rosin] The networks
immediately suspend
433
00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:02,870
all their commercial activity
to cover the war.
434
00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:04,330
Fox, and this is
hard to believe,
435
00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:06,920
did not have a news department,
436
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,460
and so, they had no choice
437
00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,880
but just to run what they had.
438
00:18:14,670 --> 00:18:16,720
So, did we get
Daddy’s permission?
439
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,510
Nope, we got Mom’s.
440
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,860
[Priestley]
On our Christmas break,
441
00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,450
I said to Luke and Ian,
442
00:18:38,490 --> 00:18:40,660
I said, "Guys,
let’s go to Zermatt.
443
00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:42,030
Let’s go skiing,"
444
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,740
so we all book our tickets,
and we’re all gonna go,
445
00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:48,000
and then Luke, all of a sudden,
isn’t gonna come
446
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,120
because something’s come up,
447
00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:50,710
and he’s not gonna be able
to make it,
448
00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:55,800
so Ian and I
travel all the way to Zurich,
449
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,680
and we were getting on the train
to go to Zermatt,
450
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,930
and all of a sudden,
Luke’s there,
451
00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:02,510
and we’re like, "Dude!
452
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,020
We thought
you couldn’t make it?"
453
00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:05,560
He was, like, "All right.
454
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,680
No, right, right, I had to, man,
I had to come..." you know,
455
00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:09,020
and this was very Luke."
456
00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:10,600
All he had was his ski bag,
457
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,940
and he had taken
all of his clothes.
458
00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:14,320
and stuffed them in his ski bag,
459
00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:18,110
so everything he wore,
the whole trip, was wrinkled.
460
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:19,450
It was pretty funny.
461
00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:23,700
So, anyway, we go to Zermatt,
and we’re skiing,
462
00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,540
and we’re, you know,
we’re going out at night
463
00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:26,750
to the Post Hotel,
464
00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:29,160
and we could tell that
there were a few people
465
00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:30,370
knew who we were,
466
00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,540
but sometimes
nobody knew who we were,
467
00:19:32,590 --> 00:19:36,510
but we got bothered enough
that I think we all knew
468
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:37,470
that...
469
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,220
that it was about to change.
470
00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:40,380
[teens screaming]
471
00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:42,800
It was a big shock to all of us.
472
00:19:42,850 --> 00:19:44,140
[teens screaming and cheering]
473
00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:45,720
But shopping malls
just became a place
474
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,560
that we couldn’t go to
for 10 years.
475
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,690
It was crazy.
476
00:19:50,730 --> 00:19:51,900
[news reporter]
Each Thursday night,
477
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,980
millions of teens
hang up their phones
478
00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:57,070
to watch the latest exploits
of the coolest, richest,
479
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:58,280
and most gorgeous
high school clique
480
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400
this side of Rodeo Drive.
481
00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,110
It’s not like anything else,
you know?
482
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,740
It’s appealing
to a teenage audience,
483
00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,290
which barely anybody in TV
was really thinking about.
484
00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:09,910
[teens screaming and cheering]
485
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,250
It was a huge show.
486
00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:13,580
Even if you didn’t watch it,
you know everybody.
487
00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:15,590
The first few times
that we went out,
488
00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:17,760
you know, to meet the public,
and to do appearances,
489
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,720
um, and then we saw
the response that we got.
490
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,430
It was pretty--
It was amazing, it really was.
491
00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:24,720
I mean, you just-- you forget
492
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,260
how many millions of people
are watching.
493
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:27,640
They found his trailer.
494
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,140
They were screaming
like The Beatles were there,
495
00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,430
you know what I mean?
496
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,270
Well, the most popular thing
is the pillow,
497
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:33,400
’cause they get
to sleep with them.
498
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,770
In the ’90s,
everybody knew Luke Perry.
499
00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:38,190
He became a household name.
500
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:40,780
Perry says
a girl came up to him recently
501
00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,490
and asked for his gum.
502
00:20:42,530 --> 00:20:45,120
He produced a new stick,
offered it to her,
503
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,370
and she turned it down.
504
00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:48,240
She wanted the piece
he was chewing.
505
00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,410
Luke was iconic,
he really was.
506
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:52,330
I mean, he was "Luke Perry".
507
00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:54,170
It didn’t get
any bigger than that.
508
00:20:54,210 --> 00:20:55,710
[cameras clicking]
509
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:57,340
You didn’t know that girls
were going to sleep at night
510
00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:58,380
with their little heads
against your face,
511
00:20:58,420 --> 00:20:59,960
saying, "Oh, Luke!"
512
00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:02,510
I heard about ’em, but...
[laughing]
513
00:21:02,550 --> 00:21:05,800
[Baldwin] You could see women
514
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,220
get distracted by it.
515
00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:08,680
That’s the thing is,
516
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,270
Luke was that kind of energy
and look,
517
00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:14,140
where you could see
a married woman with her husband
518
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:15,560
going, "Oh!"
519
00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:20,190
[news reporter]
This is the moment
520
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:22,570
more than 7,000
South Florida teenagers
521
00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:23,820
waited for.
522
00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:26,280
Luke Perry,
star of Beverly Hills 90210,
523
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,490
was in South Florida
524
00:21:27,530 --> 00:21:29,830
at the fashion mall
in Plantation,
525
00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:30,950
but the wait,
526
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,620
for some teens
more than six hours,
527
00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:33,710
was too much,
528
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,080
and the excitement
uncontrollable.
529
00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:38,670
[crowd screaming and cheering]
530
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:42,590
The crowd, barely containable
before he walked onstage,
531
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:43,920
erupted.
532
00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:45,470
They pushed and shoved
to get at the teen star,
533
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:47,510
knocking down barricades,
534
00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:50,810
until finally,
Perry had to be whisked away.
535
00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:53,140
[crowd screaming]
536
00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:55,060
I said to myself,
"This is not worth it."
537
00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:57,190
You know? It absolutely
is not worth it.
538
00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:59,060
Um, I want our show to do well,
539
00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,480
but certainly
not at the expense
540
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,690
of anyone getting injured,
or possibly even killed.
541
00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:05,610
All of a sudden, you know,
everybody was involved,
542
00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:08,240
and, you know, we had security
around us all the time.
543
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,410
Like, a show like that,
that is that popular,
544
00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:12,410
it does become
a double-edged sword.
545
00:22:15,790 --> 00:22:17,710
[Peter Ferriero] The biggest
things that I’ve gotten
546
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,130
out of the Beverly Hills 90210
Show podcast
547
00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,210
is this community
cares so deeply.
548
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,760
The fanbase cares so deeply
for all of the actors.
549
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,640
There is this deep connection,
I think,
550
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,810
feeling as if we all
experienced high school,
551
00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:36,520
or the things that you would
experience in high school,
552
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,810
together.
553
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:39,520
The character, Dylan McKay,
yes, he’s a rebel,
554
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,730
and yes, he was in trouble,
555
00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,780
and yes, he was
super interesting,
556
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:43,980
and all of that stuff,
557
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,030
but there is something
inherently just good
558
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:47,410
about that character.
559
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:48,700
That he’s looking out
for his friends,
560
00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:49,570
that he cares,
561
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:51,200
and he’s also very soft spoken,
562
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,580
so he makes you want to hear
what he’s saying.
563
00:22:56,210 --> 00:22:57,460
[bell tolling]
564
00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:05,800
[Wappler]
I wrote a book on Luke Perry
565
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,680
because I wanted to tell
a different kind of story,
566
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,260
that was about
the way a child-- a teenager--
567
00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:15,770
can latch onto a character-
568
00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:18,310
a man like that,
like, early in their career,
569
00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:20,770
and grow up
alongside that person.
570
00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:23,270
You know, it’s like,
part of the book, for me,
571
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,150
is about growing up,
572
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,650
and about healing
certain wounds.
573
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,870
My dad was
an Episcopalian minister,
574
00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:36,250
and Grace Church was supposed
to be the last stop,
575
00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,040
and then he got sick with cancer
576
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,620
a couple years
after we moved here.
577
00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:42,040
For the most part,
578
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,010
it was myself, and my mom,
and my brothers,
579
00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:47,840
um, you know, helping out,
580
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,920
doing everything for him.
581
00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:53,220
By the time I was 14,
582
00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:56,430
and 90210 was coming on,
583
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:59,640
um, you know, he was
in the last year of his life,
584
00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:02,980
and I was especially
wanting to escape,
585
00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:06,150
and Beverly Hills 90210
586
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:08,610
was like Escape Island
Number One.
587
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,240
You know, the moment
I saw Luke Perry,
588
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,570
that was the character for me.
589
00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:19,160
Right away,
when the show debuted,
590
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,500
people were comparing Luke
to James Dean.
591
00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:26,920
They did have
a certain something in common.
592
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,460
You know, not just
the physicality,
593
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:32,220
you know, both being, like,
lithe, you know, slim, trim men,
594
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:35,850
but also, this kind of, uh,
woundedness, you know?
595
00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:37,560
Always, in their performances,
596
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,180
was this real, like,
kind of pathos,
597
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:42,390
but, at the same time,
Luke, himself,
598
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,560
had a lot of trepidation
around that comparison.
599
00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:49,240
I think that, sort of,
in a way,
600
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,450
if they make the association
strong enough,
601
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,990
I’ll have to pay the price
for the fact
602
00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:54,320
that he checked out early.
603
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,410
I think when I can
no longer fulfill
604
00:24:56,450 --> 00:24:58,370
that James Dean fantasy
for them,
605
00:24:58,410 --> 00:25:00,040
they’ll look and get it
from someone else,
606
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,330
and I’ll be gone.
607
00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:03,670
I used to fly around
quite a bit, you know?
608
00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:06,040
I took a lot of
unnecessary chances
609
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,420
on the highways.
610
00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:08,880
He knew when to lean into it,
611
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,210
he knew how to be smart with it,
612
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:11,470
and play with it,
613
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,550
but he also was
a little bit spooked by it.
614
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,850
[Baldwin] Planet Hollywood,
to begin, was restaurants,
615
00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:23,940
and you have to remember
616
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:26,100
this was when "event celebrity"
617
00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,690
was different than it is today.
618
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:33,200
When Sly, and Bruce,
and, uh, Schwarzenegger
619
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,660
come to your town
to launch a restaurant,
620
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,530
you’re coming.
621
00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:38,740
[♪]
622
00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:40,290
It’s a hot place.
623
00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:44,750
These Planet Hollywood openings
were extraordinary.
624
00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:46,920
Um, they were going
just wild for him,
625
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,130
like, just wild.
626
00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:50,380
[crowd screaming]
627
00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:54,930
[Baldwin] Luke, again, was
a burning fire at that time.
628
00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,220
10,000 people would be outside,
629
00:25:57,260 --> 00:25:58,600
and you’d have Sly,
you’d have the famous people,
630
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,600
blah, blah, blah.
631
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,930
When Luke Perry...
632
00:26:02,140 --> 00:26:07,440
It was mass...
freak-daddy hysteria.
633
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,520
It’s a party
like you’ve never seen before.
634
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,110
[crowd cheering and clamoring]
635
00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:13,780
It’s wonderful!
I’m from France.
636
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,950
I’m so happy to see him!
637
00:26:19,660 --> 00:26:21,910
I think that comes from,
back then,
638
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:25,160
not just Brad Pitt good looks.
639
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,630
It comes from the people
being your fans, you know?
640
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,960
Luke had that love.
641
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,340
[fan screaming]
I love you, Luke!
642
00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:34,760
[Perry] I love you, too!
643
00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:48,690
[Santina Muha]
When I was a little girl,
644
00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:50,980
I had two next-door neighbors
that were older than me,
645
00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:52,320
and they were so cool,
646
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,320
so anything they told me
to watch, or do, I did.
647
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:55,610
So they came over one day,
and they were, like,
648
00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:58,570
"You have to watch
this new show, 90210.
649
00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:00,450
It has this guy,
Jason Priestley,
650
00:27:00,490 --> 00:27:01,740
and he’s so hot."
651
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:02,910
I’m, like, "Okay,"
652
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:04,830
’cause I was boy crazy,
a boy-crazy girl,
653
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:08,420
and, um, so the show comes on,
and the credits come on,
654
00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:09,500
and there’s Jason Priestley,
655
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:13,750
and I’m, like, "He’s hot.
Correct,"
656
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,920
but then Luke came on,
657
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,590
and I love Jason, I love Jason,
658
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:19,760
but Luke just... [gasping]
took my breath away.
659
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,430
I was, like, "Who is that?"
660
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:23,600
I mean, truly, maybe why
661
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720
I potentially believe in
love at first sight.
662
00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:29,100
So Luke just surfed
onto my screen, and that was it,
663
00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:33,900
and that was my number one crush
to this day,
664
00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:37,780
and then, to find out
he was also kind of a bad boy,
665
00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:40,110
but he was also, like, a poet,
666
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,410
and sort of tortured soul,
667
00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:43,280
and then, I mean,
the first time we meet him,
668
00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:44,740
he’s defending the little guy,
669
00:27:44,790 --> 00:27:47,750
and so, he’s not a jerk,
670
00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:50,750
he’s just got a little bit
of an edge.
671
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:53,460
This was appointment television,
as they used to call it.
672
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,300
Like, you had to sit
in front of the TV,
673
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,760
at that time,
674
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,260
and we would get on the phone,
675
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,880
and we would be silent during,
676
00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:01,140
and then during the commercial,
677
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,300
"Oh, my god. Blah, blah, blah.
This and that.
678
00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:03,390
Oh, my god, he’s so hot,"
679
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:05,140
and then "It’s back on, shh!"
680
00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:07,720
We’re watching, in silence,
on the phone.
681
00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:09,890
You know, you hold it like this.
682
00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:11,980
I mean, I still sort of
lean this way a little bit,
683
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:13,610
and I think it’s from the phones
in the ’90s.
684
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:17,780
I remember there was Luke,
685
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:19,280
and, uh, Jason,
and whoever else,
686
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,660
they were doing an appearance
at the Freehold Mall,
687
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,240
which was not far
from where I lived,
688
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,660
and I begged my mom to take me,
689
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,580
and she was, like, "No way!"
690
00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:28,620
Because I was recently injured,
691
00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:29,870
so I’m in a wheelchair,
692
00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:33,000
and she’s, like, "I’m not taking
you to the mall
693
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,210
where these cast members
are like The Beatles right now,
694
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:37,840
and everyone’s, like,
bombarding the stage.
695
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,010
I’m, like, "I hate you!"
696
00:28:39,050 --> 00:28:40,630
You know, I pulled
a full Brenda on her,
697
00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:43,300
and was mad at her
forever and ever about it.
698
00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:46,010
Did not forgive her for years,
and years, and years.
699
00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:48,640
[interviewer] Do you enjoy
being a sex symbol?
700
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,930
God, you know,
701
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,730
I don’t think of myself
as being a sex symbol,
702
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:54,150
for starters.
703
00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:56,230
If I am...
704
00:28:56,270 --> 00:28:58,230
it’s okay.
705
00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:01,860
[Priestley] That morning,
706
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,570
when we shot
that Rolling Stone cover,
707
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,410
Luke and I were pretty hungover
708
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:07,790
because we’d been out
the night before,
709
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,290
but Shannon was in good shape,
710
00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:12,210
and we were amazed
711
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:13,790
that we were getting the honor
712
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:15,710
of being on the cover
of Rolling Stone magazine.
713
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:17,040
It was a big deal.
714
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:20,090
We both understood
the importance of it, for sure.
715
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:24,380
At a certain point on the show,
716
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,390
like around the, I don’t know,
second or third season,
717
00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:28,060
he became obsessed
718
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,140
with being on the cover
of Vanity Fair magazine,
719
00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:35,230
because he knew that
that would legitimize him
720
00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:36,730
in a--in a certain way,
721
00:29:36,770 --> 00:29:39,070
and I was, like, "Really?
Vanity Fair?"
722
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:40,530
You know, because, to me,
723
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,570
Vanity Fair was something
that old people read, right,
724
00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:44,660
but that’s exactly
why he did it,
725
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,200
and he was super smart
in that way.
726
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,660
[Wappler] Luke is, arguably,
727
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,870
the most famous player
from the show.
728
00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:55,670
He’s definitely
getting the most attention.
729
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:57,380
Uh, people are really
noticing him,
730
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,750
talking about him.
731
00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:02,010
Unlike the Rolling Stone cover
that they did,
732
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:05,340
where it’s Shannon,
Jason, and Luke,
733
00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:07,970
this is really
zeroing in on Luke,
734
00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:10,100
and, you know, he’s shirtless,
735
00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:13,640
and got these pistols, sort of,
like, slung in his jeans,
736
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,850
and it’s real sexy-cowboy time.
737
00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:19,480
Yeah, he sort of bites
the hand that’s feeding him,
738
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,520
in a sense.
739
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:22,780
Like, he doesn’t go
as far to say
740
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,190
that 90210 is shlock,
or anything,
741
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,780
but he does sort of wink
a bit at his fame,
742
00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:30,280
make fun of it even.
743
00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:33,410
You know, at one point he says,
"I am product!"
744
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:36,750
[Priestley]
That Vanity Fair article
745
00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:40,210
didn’t focus
on Beverly Hills 90210,
746
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:43,960
and it focused a lot more
on who Luke was as a person.
747
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:46,300
I think Luke understood
the importance
748
00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,090
of letting the world know
749
00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:51,760
that he was more
than just this Dylan McKay.
750
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,730
He and I were both
very conscious of it,
751
00:30:56,770 --> 00:30:57,980
and we talked about it a lot.
752
00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:59,600
Like, how to distance yourself
753
00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:02,320
from a super successful show
like that,
754
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,940
and how difficult
it was, right?
755
00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:06,820
And how difficult it was
gonna be for us in the future.
756
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:08,110
I think that
that Vanity Fair article
757
00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:11,620
did a lot to help Luke
start to separate.
758
00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,740
There was a fundamental divide
759
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:18,960
between who did movies
and who did television.
760
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,840
These were TV guys doing TV,
761
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,340
doing really well with TV,
762
00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:26,340
but longing for something else,
763
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:30,590
and these young actors
all wanted to be "that guy",
764
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760
and-- who knew
who "that guy" would be?
765
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:38,640
[Perry] 10, 15 years from now,
766
00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:41,520
I would like to see myself
in a place that, uh,
767
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,190
is far away from here.
[laughing]
768
00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:47,570
It’s, uh, quiet,
and country, and, uh...
769
00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:49,450
there are no flashbulbs.
770
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,450
We talked about the fact
771
00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:52,030
that he wanted to leave
the show,
772
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:54,200
uh, and of course
at that point in time, you know,
773
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,540
we all--we all signed
five-year contracts,
774
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:59,580
and, uh,
Aaron didn’t renegotiate
775
00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:02,250
before the end
of your fifth season.
776
00:32:02,290 --> 00:32:05,050
Um, and so Luke started
talking about leaving the show
777
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:06,210
in the fifth season,
778
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:08,630
and I said, "Luke, dude,
779
00:32:08,670 --> 00:32:11,220
we’re just about
to start making money.
780
00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,390
You can’t leave right now.
781
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:14,600
Like, this is--
782
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,100
It’s about to start
getting good over here,
783
00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:19,230
and all the hard work’s
gonna pay off."
784
00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,520
He was, like, "No, dude,
I gotta go, I gotta go.
785
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,730
I know, I understand,
but I gotta go."
786
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:27,150
I was, like, "Bro, you’re...
787
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:28,280
Uh, okay."
788
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,860
[news reporter] Luke Perry,
789
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,410
who plays Dylan
on Beverly Hills 90210,
790
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:35,870
will reportedly be bumped off
in the season’s sixth episode.
791
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:37,120
We reported earlier
792
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080
that Perry plans to pursue
a movie career,
793
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,250
and wanted out
of the popular TV show.
794
00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:44,790
Fox says it can’t confirm
or deny the story."
795
00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,460
I still can’t believe it, man.
796
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:49,840
You, getting married.
797
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,130
Better get used to it, Brando.
798
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:54,550
I got a new life.
799
00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:56,930
[Priestley] So I directed
Luke’s last episode,
800
00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:58,760
and it was, you know,
emotional for me,
801
00:32:58,810 --> 00:32:59,850
because my friend
was leaving, right?
802
00:33:01,270 --> 00:33:03,440
Luke’s character
and Rebecca Gayheart’s character
803
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,110
are getting ready
to get married, and--
804
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,150
but her father, who’s a mobster,
805
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:09,150
doesn’t like--
doesn’t like Dylan McKay,
806
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:11,110
and doesn’t think he’s
good enough for his daughter.
807
00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:13,200
He takes out a hit
on Dylan McKay,
808
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,290
and unfortunately, the hitman
kills the wrong person.
809
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,540
I knew this was a big moment
for Luke, and so I--
810
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:23,250
You know, I got rain towers
out there,
811
00:33:23,290 --> 00:33:26,210
and lit it up so it would look
super dramatic, and anyway...
812
00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:30,010
Luke comes to me, and he says,
"I wanna do this thing.
813
00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:33,840
I wanna fall to my knees,
and look up at the sky,
814
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,840
and ask God
why he’s done this to me,"
815
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,930
and I, you know, and it was
another time where I was like,
816
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:40,270
"Ooh, that’s a big choice.
817
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:43,600
That’s a--That’s a risk,
brother, but okay,"
818
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,360
and he, uh, and he comes out,
and he does it.
819
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440
It turned out to be
really effective
820
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,530
just because--just because
he was emotionally connected
821
00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:53,820
to what was happening.
822
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:55,990
He wasn’t afraid
to make big choices.
823
00:33:56,030 --> 00:33:57,110
...think it was a carjacking.
824
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,830
[Dylan screaming] No, god!
825
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,040
Brandon!
826
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000
Oh, baby!
827
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Oh, my god! [screaming]
828
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,380
Look what
they did to her, Brandon!
829
00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:11,840
[sobbing]
830
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,960
[Priestley]
When Luke left the show,
831
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:14,470
it was really hard--
832
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:15,720
Luke was my brother--
833
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,100
and I think it was hard
on everybody else, too,
834
00:34:18,140 --> 00:34:20,970
’cause Luke had really,
really deep connections
835
00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:23,850
with everybody on--
on the show.
836
00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:25,190
Everybody on the set.
837
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,020
Our crew, too,
like, you know, Luke was--
838
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,310
He was a really good friend
to a lot of people.
839
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,650
You know, I also understood
why he wanted to do it.
840
00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:37,200
He had a lot of creative drive
inside him,
841
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,780
and he wanted to do more.
842
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:41,080
He wanted to do more.
843
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,590
The early ’90s in show business
844
00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:55,880
was absolutely fantastic.
845
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,340
A lot of actors our age,
in town, you know,
846
00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:00,090
just kind of know each other,
847
00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:02,600
and, uh,
would socialize together.
848
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,430
We became friends,
849
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:05,680
and he was getting ready
850
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:07,690
to shoot this
Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie.
851
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:09,480
He was so excited about it.
852
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,810
-Could I describe this movie?
-Would you?
853
00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:13,270
Not in a thousand words
or less, certainly not.
854
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,780
Um, it’s, um, it’s a comedy,
855
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:18,070
it’s a love story, it’s scary.
856
00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,870
It’s, uh... we shoot
the whole damn thing at night,
857
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:21,950
so it’s dark,
858
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:24,120
and, um, it’s funny...
859
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,830
He was, like, "Swanny!
860
00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:27,160
You gotta read this script.
861
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:28,250
You have to read this script.
862
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:29,920
Like, you would be
the perfect Buffy,
863
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,540
trust me on this."
864
00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:32,460
I was, like, "Okay..."
865
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:35,800
But of course,
I had to go through the process
866
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,760
of, you know, auditioning,
867
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,260
but he had my back
the entire time,
868
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,100
and he knew me personally,
you know,
869
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:47,140
so he saw that humor that I had,
870
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:49,480
and that I could bring
to the film.
871
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,600
I play Pike,
872
00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:52,770
and Pike
is the damsel in distress
873
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:54,230
in the movie here, you know?
874
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:56,360
He’s, like... So we did
the big role reversal thing,
875
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,070
and Swanson’s the hero...
876
00:35:58,110 --> 00:35:59,650
He loved the fact
877
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,200
that the girl
was kicking ass in the movie.
878
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,490
That’s what he loved
about the script, so...
879
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:06,410
’Cause I remember him
selling me on it,
880
00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:08,120
like, when he was telling me
about the story.
881
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,750
He was, like, "Oh, my god,
and she’s funny,
882
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,710
and she’s kicking ass
all the time."
883
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880
[panting]
884
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,970
-Hi.
-Hi.
885
00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:22,010
He loved all the stunts
that I got to do,
886
00:36:22,050 --> 00:36:23,970
and he would always,
always cheer me on,
887
00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:25,010
always.
888
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,100
Like a cheerleader,
889
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:27,680
like a mascot, in a way.
[laughing]
890
00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:31,810
"Oh, Swanny,
that kick was high!
891
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:33,560
Oh, my god!" You know?
892
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,320
Like, he’d be, like,
"Damn! Look at that side kick!"
893
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,150
And he loved playing that guy
894
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,570
that was, like,
"Okay, do your thing.
895
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:42,200
Go do your thing," you know?
896
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,200
"Go be you, go kick ass,"
you know?
897
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,000
Luke always had my back
on the set.
898
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,000
Whatever it could be,
at any given moment,
899
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,050
he was always
a shoulder to cry on,
900
00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:59,340
someone to pat you on the back,
901
00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:01,840
or someone to tell you,
"Get over it,
902
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,090
get out there and do it."
903
00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:04,390
You know what I mean?
Like, he was that guy.
904
00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:10,640
Even after the movie,
always supportive,
905
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,440
of my life, of my career,
906
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,900
him having children,
907
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,360
me getting married,
having children,
908
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,070
you know, like, staying in touch
with each other.
909
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:23,860
I am...
910
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:27,450
so grateful that...
911
00:37:27,490 --> 00:37:29,700
he had a vision,
912
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:31,910
and he saw me in that role,
913
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,710
and I will never forget that.
914
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,760
[♪]
915
00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:44,010
[Priestley] Because of
the level of fame that he had,
916
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:47,720
he figured out that he would
be able to get to people.
917
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560
He could call their office
and they would return his call,
918
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,640
no matter who it was,
919
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,270
and that’s how he got
8 Seconds made.
920
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:59,650
He bought the rights
to Lane Frost’s story,
921
00:37:59,690 --> 00:38:01,150
and he called Mike De Luca,
922
00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:02,940
who was the head
of New Line at the time.
923
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,200
Like, nobody just calls
Mike De Luca,
924
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,320
but Luke just called his office,
925
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,950
and was, like,
"Hey, I’ve got a project.
926
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:09,160
I wanna come in
and pitch it to ya,"
927
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080
and De Luca was, like,
"Uh, okay."
928
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,620
I know that 8 Seconds
was a passion of his,
929
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:16,620
to make that movie,
930
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:18,170
and he knew the family,
931
00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:20,000
and I know that the studio
promised him
932
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,260
that they would make that film,
933
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,420
but they just wanted
to get Buffy done first.
934
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:27,970
[news report] That first
big role for a young actor
935
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:29,260
is very important,
936
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:31,140
but sometimes,
even more important,
937
00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:33,100
is that second big part.
938
00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:35,770
For actor Luke Perry,
star of Beverly Hills 90210,
939
00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:37,600
the role of Lane Frost,
940
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:38,770
his second big part,
941
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:40,110
might be the door opener
942
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:42,280
for a long and successful
film career.
943
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,110
If you’ve never seen
bull-riding at a rodeo,
944
00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,240
you don’t know,
945
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,780
but they are, you know,
2,000-pound,
946
00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:51,240
angry, wild animals
947
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,790
that don’t give a [bleep]
if they step on you,
948
00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:56,710
if they hook you
with their horns
949
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:58,080
and throw you out of the ring.
950
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,540
They’re terrifying.
951
00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:02,920
And Luke told me--
952
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,170
he was, like, "Yeah, dude,
I’m gonna--
953
00:39:04,210 --> 00:39:05,340
I’m going out to Riverside
this weekend.
954
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:06,380
I’m gonna ride a bull."
955
00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:08,180
I was, like, "What?
956
00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:11,180
Dude, you’re not a bull-rider!
957
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:12,350
What are you doing?"
958
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:17,060
[Baldwin] I’d never hung out
with Luke that much.
959
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,690
We kinda knew each other,
960
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:22,190
but we’re friendly, kind of,
within the industry,
961
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:25,190
and I get this phone call,
like, random.
962
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,570
And I answer, and he goes,
"Hello, Baldwin?"
963
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:28,200
and I go, "Yeah?"
He says, uh, "Luke Perry."
964
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,530
"Oh, hey, man."
965
00:39:29,570 --> 00:39:33,200
He goes, "Hey, man, uh,
I’ve got this thing going.
966
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,490
It’s this rodeo movie.
967
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,620
We got to get together,
968
00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:36,870
we’ve got to talk about it,"
969
00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:39,290
and I’m going... [chuckling]
970
00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:40,880
"Okay, Luke.
971
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,590
Are you calling me to say
you want to make a movie,
972
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,460
and you and I
are gonna really ride bulls?"
973
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,840
and he’s, like, "Yeah.
974
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,380
I’m calling you to say
I’m making a movie,
975
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:52,220
and if you say yes,
we’re really gonna ride bulls,"
976
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:54,470
and I’m, like...
977
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,970
This is Luke Perry, right?
978
00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:59,520
Like, you know what I mean,
he’s cute, but...
979
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,560
He’s-- I think he’s-- you know,
he’s gotta be, like, kidding.
980
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,230
[Priestley]
Luke was bull-riding.
981
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,070
No messing around.
982
00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:08,400
They couldn’t afford
10,000 extras,
983
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,160
so he had to really go
to rodeos,
984
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,990
and get on real bulls,
985
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:14,240
and try to hang on.
986
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,410
Okay, boys!
987
00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:16,740
All right!
988
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:19,870
[♪]
989
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:24,920
[Baldwin]
I never got to know Luke
990
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,210
until we did the movie.
991
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:30,590
To get to know him
as an artist, and an actor,
992
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:35,470
and kinda see a guy
who really was taking a risk.
993
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:36,760
This was not a joke.
994
00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:38,560
This was, like,
a serious feature film.
995
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,520
He was considered
a handsome television star.
996
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,610
[interviewer]
I was really impressed
997
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:45,940
at how this film didn’t, uh,
998
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:49,320
gloss over the rough spots
in his life.
999
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,950
Yeah, that was
very important to me
1000
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:52,030
that we not do that,
1001
00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:53,700
because, to me,
that’s the story.
1002
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:55,780
I mean, that’s an integral part
of the story.
1003
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,910
Uh, a lot of times,
people are very envious
1004
00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:59,790
because it looks real good
to be the champ,
1005
00:40:59,830 --> 00:41:02,540
but, you know, you got to make
some sacrifices to get there,
1006
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:04,000
and you gotta make some
to stay on top,
1007
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,250
and it is paying the price
for those sacrifices
1008
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:07,670
that’s often very painful.
1009
00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:10,170
That’s my favorite part of,
you know, knowing Luke,
1010
00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:11,630
and having
been friends with him,
1011
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:15,260
was that he was that real deal
as an actor.
1012
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:18,640
You know, he wanted
to live the experience.
1013
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,180
He wanted to create
the character.
1014
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:23,140
He wanted to live that thrill,
1015
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:24,310
and then, Luke, himself
1016
00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:27,020
was, you know, a cowboy
in his own right.
1017
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,320
[Perry] I think it’s important
for the audience
1018
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,610
to experience the danger,
1019
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:31,780
and if they don’t sense
1020
00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:33,030
the danger of Lane Frost
being on a bull,
1021
00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:34,610
they will sense the danger
1022
00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:36,320
of Luke Perry getting ready
to get his head stomped in,
1023
00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:37,870
and, uh, if they see
1024
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:39,830
that it’s actually me on there
coming out,
1025
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:41,250
then I think it--
1026
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:42,580
it makes a lot of other
elements in the film work.
1027
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:43,870
[Baldwin] If you asked me,
1028
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,460
kinda being the youngest,
1029
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,040
rough and tumble
Baldwin brother--
1030
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:49,840
macho, competitive--
1031
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,170
did I think Luke Perry
was a tough guy?
1032
00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:53,840
No.
1033
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,550
Not before I met him.
1034
00:41:55,590 --> 00:41:59,680
But what was cool about him
was he was a little crazy.
1035
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,140
He had this little bit of nuts.
1036
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:06,400
That little bit of nuts
is why Paul Newman raced cars.
1037
00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:12,190
I think his fire was the cowboy,
1038
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,860
so the opportunity
to transfer that
1039
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:19,240
into the greatest bull-rider
of all time,
1040
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,040
who also was...
1041
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,330
considered to be one
of the humblest, kindest guys--
1042
00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:28,330
Lane Frost--
1043
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:33,210
How do you play the balls
of that fearlessness,
1044
00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:37,390
and the niceness
of that sensitivity?
1045
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:39,970
That’s a fricking
hard role to play.
1046
00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:46,140
He was like a Newman.
1047
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:47,100
He was like a Redford, too,
1048
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:49,230
but he was more like--
1049
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:50,770
and I love you, bro!
1050
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:54,740
--but he was more like, uh,
a James Dean,
1051
00:42:54,780 --> 00:43:00,570
because James Dean
was so smokingly attractive
1052
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:03,040
when he went sensitive,
1053
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,460
Luke also understood
how to do that, as an actor,
1054
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,960
which is hard
when you’re so good-looking.
1055
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:16,170
For some reason,
the AD said to me,
1056
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:19,050
like, after
the second day of shooting,
1057
00:43:19,090 --> 00:43:20,510
he says, "Hey, man,
1058
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:22,100
you know, we’re gonna just
send one car in the morning
1059
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:23,260
just to pick you and Luke up,
1060
00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:24,680
instead of just two cars,
1061
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:25,890
’cause you’re going
to the same place,
1062
00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:27,640
we’re just gonna make it
easier for transpo."
1063
00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:29,560
I go, "Yeah, man. Cool, yeah,"
1064
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,650
so the next morning,
I get in this car with Luke,
1065
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:33,940
and we get on the freeway,
1066
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,570
and Luke goes...
1067
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,740
...and the driver gets off
this exit,
1068
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:46,870
and right off the exit
is a crane,
1069
00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:50,710
a huge crane,
going about four stories up,
1070
00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:54,210
with a bungee jump
attached to it,
1071
00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:56,130
so, he goes, "Come on."
1072
00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:57,840
I go, "What are you doing?"
1073
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,930
He goes, "Bungee jump, bro.
Let’s go."
1074
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:02,850
"Bro, we’re gonna
get in trouble."
1075
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,970
He goes... [whispering]
"Nobody’s gonna know."
1076
00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:08,180
My hair’s standing up on my arm
doing it right now,
1077
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:11,440
and that’s the Luke
I got to know.
1078
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,610
This is the first time
I’m telling this story.
1079
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:16,860
We did a bungee jump
on the way to the set,
1080
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,530
every day for seven days.
1081
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:22,320
We were jacked on adrenaline
by the time we got there.
1082
00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:25,700
We were ready to ride bulls.
1083
00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:29,500
8 Seconds is considered to be
1084
00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:34,540
in the top 10 greatest
rodeo pictures of all time.
1085
00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:36,630
Do you know how many
rodeo pictures have been made?
1086
00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:38,840
He’s the John Wayne
of bull-riding movies,
1087
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,010
Luke Perry.
1088
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:44,470
[Priestley] He really connected
1089
00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:47,560
to that, sort of, you know,
Western community,
1090
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,270
and, um, and he bought
a piece of land in Tennessee,
1091
00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:53,600
and started working the land,
and, you know,
1092
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:54,860
and started taking
a lot more roles,
1093
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:56,650
like, sort of
Western roles, right?
1094
00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:58,690
Like, I think making 8 Seconds
really changed him,
1095
00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:01,150
and changed the trajectory
of his career.
1096
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:13,960
When Luke got the script
for Normal Life,
1097
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,170
he was super excited
by the opportunity,
1098
00:45:16,210 --> 00:45:18,170
because he really wanted
to work with John McNaughton.
1099
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,880
He saw that movie
as a great opportunity,
1100
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,220
and a great opportunity
to distance himself more
1101
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:25,550
from Dylan McKay
1102
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:27,180
and from, you know,
being a teenage heartthrob.
1103
00:45:30,850 --> 00:45:33,980
[Steven A. Jones] John and I
were both fascinated with--
1104
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:35,650
the popular term is "outliers",
1105
00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:36,810
but, you know, "criminals"
1106
00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:39,190
is a-- [chuckling]
--a better term for it.
1107
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:40,110
Fascinated with people
1108
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:41,990
that didn’t take
the normal path,
1109
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:45,660
and had to find
some other way to get by,
1110
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:46,780
and because we both have
1111
00:45:46,820 --> 00:45:49,290
quite the perverse
sense of humor,
1112
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:51,660
and perverse attitude
towards many things,
1113
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:53,210
the trickier
1114
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:55,750
and more, you know, criminal,
in a lot of ways, they were,
1115
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:57,750
the more interesting
those characters were to us.
1116
00:45:57,790 --> 00:45:59,340
[news reporter]
Till death do they part
1117
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:00,630
may have been their vow,
1118
00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:02,010
but at the time
of their capture, at least,
1119
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,630
Jeff Erickson
seemed more inclined
1120
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:06,050
to part from his wife
than die with her.
1121
00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:07,550
The end came
1122
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,680
after two-and-a-half years
of unsolved bank robberies
1123
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,640
in the northwest suburbs.
1124
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,060
The so-called "bearded bandit",
1125
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,350
with the disguise
of several layers of clothing,
1126
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:16,020
facial hair,
and heavy gloves,
1127
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,020
stuff, which,
along with a police scanner,
1128
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:20,230
were reportedly found
in the bullet-riddled van
1129
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:21,610
December 16th.
1130
00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:23,860
This story was big news
in Chicago.
1131
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:25,360
In fact,
we would see them on the news
1132
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,450
robbing banks
1133
00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:28,120
because, you know,
security cameras.
1134
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,370
They would come in,
1135
00:46:29,410 --> 00:46:31,950
and at first it was just him,
1136
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:33,250
uh, and he would--
1137
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:35,000
wearing a fake beard
and a Cubs hat.
1138
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,540
and then his wife,
1139
00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,920
who had mental issues,
1140
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840
uh, she was kind of
a thrill-seeker,
1141
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
and she found out
that he was robbing banks
1142
00:46:43,010 --> 00:46:45,380
because they were going broke,
1143
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:47,470
and she loved the idea,
and wanted to go with,
1144
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:49,010
and she did,
1145
00:46:49,050 --> 00:46:51,720
and then they both went down
in huge gunfights,
1146
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,810
and died,
1147
00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:55,100
and it was pretty intense.
1148
00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:57,600
The movie, Normal Life,
had fallen apart,
1149
00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:00,020
and, uh, we couldn’t get anybody
1150
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:01,400
to put any money into it,
1151
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,490
and then we got a call
from the William Morris Agency,
1152
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:08,070
and they had just taken Luke on
as a client,
1153
00:47:08,110 --> 00:47:10,570
and they said, "We hear
you’re doing this movie,
1154
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:15,960
and we’ll raise the money
for you to make this movie,"
1155
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,580
and, uh, I said,
1156
00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:18,960
"Well, I don’t know,
1157
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,590
you know, we’re really specific
about our casting,"
1158
00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:24,210
and they went to
a rental store,
1159
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:27,130
rented a cassette of the--
of the rodeo movie,
1160
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:28,630
Eight and a Half Seconds--
1161
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,260
FedExed me
a rental video cassette,
1162
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,100
and I walked it over
to John’s house
1163
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:36,600
and put it in his VHS machine,
1164
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,610
and said, "Well, you know,
this guy will be great."
1165
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:44,480
I was never a huge 90210 fan,
1166
00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:45,780
and to me, it was, like,
1167
00:47:45,820 --> 00:47:47,780
"What’s some
teenage heartthrob..."
1168
00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:49,280
It’s just, like, you know...
1169
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,610
I don’t...
1170
00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:52,240
But a lesson I have learned--
1171
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,830
always meet the person,
because you never know.
1172
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:55,790
We sat down, and Luke sat down,
1173
00:47:55,830 --> 00:48:00,120
and of course, everybody knew
who Luke Perry was, in the room,
1174
00:48:00,170 --> 00:48:02,790
uh, but Luke was so, uh,
very unaffected by it,
1175
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,090
and very down to earth,
1176
00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:05,800
and, uh, even though
Luke was a big celebrity,
1177
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,630
he didn’t act like
a big celebrity.
1178
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:09,130
He acted like a human being,
1179
00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:11,970
and, uh, I just
changed my opinion.
1180
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:13,300
I said, "This guy’s great,
1181
00:48:13,350 --> 00:48:14,510
and let’s go!"
1182
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:18,850
The locations for Normal Life
1183
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:21,060
was all that area
out by the airport,
1184
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,940
which is where the real story
took place.
1185
00:48:23,980 --> 00:48:25,820
It was all built
in the post-war era,
1186
00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:29,360
and, uh, suburban sprawl.
1187
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:37,500
[Jones] And we walk
into this bank with Luke,
1188
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:38,950
and this guy comes up to us,
1189
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,580
and goes, "Oh, so
what are you doing?" you know,
1190
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:42,750
and we’re, like, uh,
"We’re shooting a movie
1191
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:43,790
about these guys,
the Ericksons,"
1192
00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:46,800
and he goes,
"He robbed this bank,"
1193
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,960
and I said--
1194
00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:49,760
And Luke was standing
right-right here.
1195
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,130
I said, "He robbed this bank?"
1196
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:52,890
He goes, "Yeah, yeah,
he robbed this bank,"
1197
00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:54,760
and he goes over to the drawer,
1198
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,640
and he pulls out a photograph
of Erickson in his getup
1199
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,600
that nobody had ever seen.
1200
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,690
He goes, "Yeah, I was there,"
1201
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:02,770
and I said, "Sir?"
"Yeah?"
1202
00:49:02,810 --> 00:49:04,060
I said, "What was it like?"
1203
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,940
He goes, "He just came in
screaming profanity
1204
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:07,440
at the top of his lungs,"
1205
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,650
and I looked over at Luke,
1206
00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:10,070
and he’s, like,
"Yeah, I got it." [laughing]
1207
00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:11,780
[bleep] And I mean now!
1208
00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:13,070
Nobody move!
1209
00:49:13,110 --> 00:49:14,160
Gimme that [bleep] gun!
1210
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,990
Nobody move.
Get over there!
1211
00:49:16,030 --> 00:49:17,540
Lay down on the floor!
You, too!
1212
00:49:17,580 --> 00:49:18,660
[screaming] Lay down!
1213
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,160
I mean, both of
their performances
1214
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080
are astounding in my--
in my opinion,
1215
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,420
but Luke’s, in particular,
1216
00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:27,750
just for--for the calmness
of most of it.
1217
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,010
He-- his had to all be
in here, you know?
1218
00:49:31,380 --> 00:49:33,010
Is this the way
you want to play it, Pam?
1219
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,220
You don’t want to live anymore,
1220
00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:39,510
I don’t want to live anymore,
either.
1221
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,930
So we’re shooting the movie,
1222
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:44,730
and we’re probably
most of the way through it,
1223
00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:47,650
and we said, "Luke, uh,
1224
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:50,570
you know, we never saw 90210,
1225
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:52,740
not one second of it,"
1226
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:55,910
and he just stared at us
for a second,
1227
00:49:55,950 --> 00:49:57,240
and he goes,
1228
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,370
"Do you understand
how hard I was trying to work
1229
00:50:00,410 --> 00:50:03,540
so that you would forget
about my TV career?"
1230
00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:07,750
and I said, "No, you had us
from the word go. [laughing]
1231
00:50:07,790 --> 00:50:09,800
You came in completely,
you know,
1232
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,090
completely unblemished.
1233
00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:13,050
We were just looking
at your work, and it was--
1234
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:15,300
it’s so incredible
that we’re good."
1235
00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:21,890
When we got it all finished,
1236
00:50:21,930 --> 00:50:24,480
uh, they were gonna test it,
1237
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,520
and they tested it in--
1238
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,020
it was actually
a suburb of Oakland,
1239
00:50:28,060 --> 00:50:30,110
and when you test a movie,
1240
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:31,400
you go find an audience,
1241
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,900
and the way you do it,
is you ask them
1242
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:35,450
about some other
specific kinds of movies,
1243
00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:37,950
and they-- I--
they asked the audience,
1244
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:40,780
"How would you like to see
a Luke Perry movie?"
1245
00:50:40,830 --> 00:50:42,290
Well, the audience didn’t--
1246
00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:45,250
They thought that, "Oh, 90210,
it’s gonna be this--
1247
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:47,330
that kind of a movie."
1248
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:50,630
The selected audience
that they put in those seats
1249
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:51,960
hated the movie,
1250
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,210
because they were--
1251
00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:56,130
they felt they were lead
down a-- the wrong path,
1252
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:58,140
and then they wouldn’t
put it out in the theatres.
1253
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,970
It was awful for me,
it was worse for John.
1254
00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:04,890
[McNaughton]
So, New Line just, you know,
1255
00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:06,520
I think they released it
in some small amount of--
1256
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,770
I don’t think it was even
in major city just to speak of.
1257
00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:10,860
Then, I was angry.
1258
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:13,320
Now... it’s the breaks.
1259
00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:18,990
I think Luke, you know,
he became such a pro.
1260
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:20,660
It just, like,
this is the way of the world.
1261
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:23,830
I mean, you could--
Now, it’s just, like, well...
1262
00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:26,330
if you get lucky, say a prayer,
1263
00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:29,000
but if not, "Moving on."
"Next."
1264
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,290
You keep working.
1265
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:34,550
Any time
you’re a teen heartthrob,
1266
00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:38,180
everyone just assumes
that you’re a [bleep] actor.
1267
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:40,180
You’re just a--You’re just
a good-looking kid, right?
1268
00:51:40,220 --> 00:51:42,970
I think
that was a lot to overcome,
1269
00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:45,390
but Luke, you know,
never stopped trying.
1270
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:47,600
[Perry] I have had the chance
1271
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,980
to work with, uh,
filmmakers that I respect,
1272
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:51,690
and do the kind of work
that I want to do,
1273
00:51:51,730 --> 00:51:53,860
and it’s just a matter of time.
1274
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,570
You know, you play
a number of parts,
1275
00:51:55,610 --> 00:51:57,150
and then after a while,
1276
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:59,360
people don’t really connect you
with one-one thing anymore,
1277
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,280
but, um, you know,
I was always very clear on--
1278
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,870
on what the show did for me,
1279
00:52:02,910 --> 00:52:04,330
and what I did for it.
1280
00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:05,540
I just felt it was time for me
to play other stuff.
1281
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:25,350
[Winters] There’s a casting
director named Alexa Fogel.
1282
00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:28,020
She calls me one day,
and she goes, "Listen,"
1283
00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:30,560
she goes, "I have this actor
coming into town,
1284
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,730
and he doesn’t have
a lot of friends in New York,
1285
00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:35,110
and he needs--
he needs a buddy."
1286
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:36,820
I’m, like, who is it?"
and she goes, "Luke Perry."
1287
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:38,360
I was, like, "Really?"
1288
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,530
and then I was, like, "Okay."
1289
00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:41,910
I showed up,
and, you know, Luke had--
1290
00:52:41,950 --> 00:52:43,570
He always had a baseball cap on,
1291
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:45,240
and we started talking, and--
1292
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,660
I don’t take people on
very easily,
1293
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,250
but, like, he was just a--
a really genuine soul,
1294
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:55,540
and he was extremely humble.
1295
00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:57,920
You know, I didn’t really
bring him around my crew
1296
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,960
at first.
1297
00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:00,340
Um, I wanted to, like,
1298
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:01,880
really just kinda
get to know him,
1299
00:53:01,930 --> 00:53:03,840
and kinda ease him into it,
you know?
1300
00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:05,600
Because New York
was a whole new thing for him.
1301
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560
We became very close, very fast.
1302
00:53:08,850 --> 00:53:10,810
I was doing this show called Oz,
1303
00:53:10,850 --> 00:53:12,730
and he had held this back
for a while,
1304
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:14,270
but he goes, "All I wanna do is,
1305
00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:15,940
I wanna be a part
of something like that."
1306
00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:18,730
He goes, "I need to shed,
you know, Dylan,
1307
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,150
you know, that whole image."
1308
00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:25,320
[Tom Fontana] Dean Winters
is truly the king of New York.
1309
00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:27,240
He knows everybody,
goes everywhere.
1310
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Can get into any place
he wants to get into,
1311
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,370
so I met Luke through Dean,
1312
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:34,630
and he said to me,
1313
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:37,000
"Do you think you could
write a part for me?"
1314
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,090
and I said, "Absolutely."
1315
00:53:39,130 --> 00:53:42,380
First of all,
I wanted to explore
1316
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,720
that Christian community
that exists in prison.
1317
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,970
Second of all,
1318
00:53:48,010 --> 00:53:50,140
because I wanted the character
1319
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:55,100
to be an incredibly
successful, uh, preacher,
1320
00:53:55,150 --> 00:53:58,480
I wanted to make sure
that I had somebody
1321
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,150
who--who brought with him
a kind of fame,
1322
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,660
as opposed to hiring
an unknown actor,
1323
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,280
and then having to convince
the audience he was famous,
1324
00:54:08,330 --> 00:54:10,450
you hire Luke Perry,
and you’re--
1325
00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:12,830
you already got
half the job done.
1326
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:15,960
He’s so honest in his acting,
1327
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,500
that I knew he would be genuine.
1328
00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:19,250
He wouldn’t, like,
mock the character.
1329
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:22,670
He’d just be
who the guy was supposed to be.
1330
00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:28,760
The tension between
the different communities
1331
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,220
that made up, uh, Oz,
1332
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:36,980
was always a great place
to start a new character,
1333
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:40,190
because they don’t know,
1334
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:42,280
and when a character
doesn’t know,
1335
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,570
like, Luke didn’t know
1336
00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:45,650
when he first met
Vern Schillinger,
1337
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:49,450
he has to discover very quickly
what the rules are.
1338
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:52,330
Let him who suffer
take away your suffering.
1339
00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:55,370
Get your [bleep] hand off me.
1340
00:54:56,710 --> 00:55:00,210
[Fontana]
Once he came onto the set,
1341
00:55:00,250 --> 00:55:02,800
he was very much committed
to the character,
1342
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,930
and Luke disappeared
in a lot of ways.
1343
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:09,930
When I talked to Luke
about being on the show,
1344
00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:11,180
I said to him, "You know,
1345
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:13,520
the thing about being
in Emerald City
1346
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,270
is, when there are
group scenes,
1347
00:55:16,310 --> 00:55:18,020
all the actors
have to be there,
1348
00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:20,270
even if they have no dialogue,
1349
00:55:20,310 --> 00:55:21,980
and if that’s a problem
for you,
1350
00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:23,320
then you shouldn’t do this,"
1351
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,150
and he said, "I have no--
1352
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:27,700
absolutely no problem
with that,"
1353
00:55:27,740 --> 00:55:31,120
and I would see him
with the other--
1354
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,450
with the extras
playing the Christians,
1355
00:55:33,490 --> 00:55:36,960
and I would see them gathered,
praying,
1356
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
without being told to do that.
1357
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,420
He just--He just said,
"Look, we’re, you know,
1358
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:44,630
the scene’s gonna--
let’s, let’s pray,"
1359
00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:47,300
and I just thought
that was wonderful, you know,
1360
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:51,050
that he was creating
within the space
1361
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:55,430
the world that he thought
that character would motivate.
1362
00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:57,730
And I remember, like,
1363
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:59,190
I wasn’t really working
in those scenes,
1364
00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:00,690
but I remember
I went to watch him,
1365
00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:02,650
and I was just, like, "[bleep]
this guy’s [bleep] good!"
1366
00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:04,820
He had enveloped his character.
1367
00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:07,900
He became Jeremiah Cloutier.
1368
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,570
So, the first day of filming
with Luke, we’re--
1369
00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:14,030
There was a part of the prison
called M-City, right?
1370
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,870
Um, and there’s a scene
1371
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:20,920
where Luke walks from his cell
to the showers,
1372
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,170
and to get there,
1373
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:25,250
he’s gotta walk through,
like, a hundred extras,
1374
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,550
and, um, he’s-- we’re talking
the Hell’s Angels,
1375
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:29,470
Bloods, Crips,
Latin Kings, right?
1376
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:31,970
And then the core--
and then the core cast,
1377
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,510
and so, Luke is walking
from his cell to the showers.
1378
00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:36,430
He has a towel
around his waist, right?
1379
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:38,480
And people--people,
as he’s coming out,
1380
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,690
people were, like...
1381
00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:41,690
you could see
people were registering
1382
00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:43,270
that they knew
who he was, right?
1383
00:56:43,310 --> 00:56:45,690
They’re, like--they’re, like,
"Is that [bleep] Luke Perry?"
1384
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:47,780
And I’m just looking around,
because no one really knew,
1385
00:56:47,820 --> 00:56:50,860
and as he’s--
walks out to the showers,
1386
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:52,990
he just drops his towel,
1387
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:54,370
and he’s fully naked,
1388
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:55,700
fully naked,
1389
00:56:55,740 --> 00:56:56,870
I’m getting chills
telling this.
1390
00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:58,290
[prisoners hollering]
1391
00:56:58,330 --> 00:56:59,830
-Whoa-ho!
-Oh, man!
1392
00:56:59,870 --> 00:57:01,250
Yo, minister, baby!
1393
00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:04,080
[wolf whistles and shouting]
1394
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:07,340
[prisoners shouting]
1395
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:10,630
And everyone
just starts clapping,
1396
00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:13,050
because they knew
that he was now, in that--
1397
00:57:13,090 --> 00:57:14,720
what he did in that moment
1398
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,180
was... he’s, like, "All right,
I’m one of you guys, now.
1399
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:19,640
I’m not some guy
that just came from 90210,
1400
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,350
who’s not gonna do
the hard stuff,"
1401
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:23,270
and from that moment on,
1402
00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:26,270
he was just, like,
part of the family.
1403
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,690
On Friday night,
we would all go out
1404
00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:32,400
to this place called The Hog Pit
for drinks,
1405
00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:34,950
and I go looking for him
at, like, 7:00 at night,
1406
00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:35,990
and I can’t find him,
1407
00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:37,990
and so, I asked
one of the P.A.s.
1408
00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:39,950
I said, "Hey, do you know
where Luke is?"
1409
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,250
She’s, like,
"Oh, he’s on the roof."
1410
00:57:41,290 --> 00:57:43,580
I go, "The roof?"
I go, "What roof?"
1411
00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:45,790
She’s, like, "Yeah, you climb
that ladder up there,
1412
00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:47,170
and then you get to the roof."
1413
00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:49,090
I go, "I’ve been working
on this show for four years,
1414
00:57:49,130 --> 00:57:51,210
I didn’t know you could go
to the [bleep] roof," right?
1415
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:52,760
So I climb this little ladder,
1416
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680
go through, like,
a manhole to the roof,
1417
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,090
and I get up there,
and it’s sunset, right?
1418
00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:58,720
And it’s sunset over New Jersey,
over the Hudson River,
1419
00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,760
and the sun is dipping.
1420
00:57:59,810 --> 00:58:01,350
All I can see is Luke,
1421
00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:04,350
uh, sitting on, like, a little,
you know, piece of scaffolding,
1422
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:06,810
and I didn’t call his name,
1423
00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:10,280
’cause I felt like
he was having a moment,
1424
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,150
and I walked up to him,
1425
00:58:12,190 --> 00:58:13,700
and I sat down next to him,
1426
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:17,120
and... [clearing throat]
1427
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,830
and I saw he was crying,
1428
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:19,950
and it was...
1429
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:21,700
and I just looked at him,
1430
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:23,960
and I looked at the sunset,
1431
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,460
and he was still crying,
1432
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:29,000
and I--and I said--
I said, "Luke, are you okay?"
1433
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,340
And he goes, "Brother,"
1434
00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,590
he goes, "This might be
the best day of my life,"
1435
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:35,430
and I didn’t say another word.
1436
00:58:35,470 --> 00:58:37,140
We just watched
the sunset together,
1437
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:39,050
and then when it got dark,
we went downstairs,
1438
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,470
and we joined the cast,
you know, at the bar,
1439
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:42,520
but he told me, he’s like,
1440
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,810
he goes-he goes,
1441
00:58:43,850 --> 00:58:45,730
"I’ve been waiting
for an experience like this
1442
00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:47,150
since I became an actor."
1443
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:50,570
You want your work
1444
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,360
to kind of match the evolution
of who you are as a person.
1445
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,190
He wanted to get
something off his chest.
1446
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,700
"I’m not Dylan anymore, right,
1447
00:58:57,740 --> 00:58:58,990
and this is
what I have to say,
1448
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:59,990
this is who I am.
1449
00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:01,540
I’m someone different."
1450
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:16,840
At the stage that Jason
was driving these racecars,
1451
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,430
they didn’t care
it was Jason Priestley
1452
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:19,890
in the cockpit of that car.
1453
00:59:19,930 --> 00:59:21,680
You have to be able
to perform the service
1454
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,810
at a very high level.
1455
00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:26,020
In 2002, I had a big, uh...
1456
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:28,350
I was racing Indy Lights,
and I had a big crash
1457
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,770
in, uh, in Kentucky,
1458
00:59:29,810 --> 00:59:34,530
and they airlifted me
to the University of Kentucky.
1459
00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,240
The news broke,
1460
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,860
and people were sending
well wishes,
1461
00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:39,610
and calling to figure out
what’s going on.
1462
00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:41,030
Everyone was trying
to figure out what was going on,
1463
00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:42,330
but the first person
1464
00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:44,120
who arrived at the hospital
to visit me
1465
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,660
was Luke.
1466
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,460
I got right up
where I could see his face,
1467
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,830
and I looked right down
into his eyes,
1468
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:50,460
and I said, "Jason,"
and I talked to him a lot,
1469
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,380
and I screamed at him,
and I got really close.
1470
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:53,710
I was so high,
1471
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:55,710
because I was so broken,
1472
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,300
and I looked at him,
and I said, "Coy L. Perry.
1473
00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:02,010
Thanks for coming, man."
[laughing]
1474
01:00:02,050 --> 01:00:03,560
I knew that Jay
was gonna be all right
1475
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,850
when he said my name,
1476
01:00:04,890 --> 01:00:07,640
um, because he said my name
1477
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,980
as it exists
on my birth certificate.
1478
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:11,360
He didn’t just say,
"Hey, Luke."
1479
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,560
My girlfriend,
who’s now my wife,
1480
01:00:12,610 --> 01:00:14,520
she was, like, "Oh, no,
something’s wrong.
1481
01:00:14,570 --> 01:00:16,990
"Something--
He doesn’t recognize Luke.
1482
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:18,070
This is a big deal!"
1483
01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:19,740
And then Luke
had to explain to her
1484
01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:22,570
that his real name was Coy.
[laughing]
1485
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:24,080
He knew that was his job
at that time--
1486
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,330
was to let those people know
that he was still--
1487
01:00:27,370 --> 01:00:28,370
had it going,
1488
01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:30,500
and that’s how smart he is.
1489
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:31,920
Luke was a great friend
1490
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,040
that you could rely on
to turn up, right?
1491
01:00:34,090 --> 01:00:35,420
That was part of his--
1492
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:36,760
That was just part of his ethos.
1493
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,420
My relationship with Jason
is different
1494
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:41,090
than any other human being
in the world, though, and we--
1495
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:44,180
that’s the other thing
that he and I know, um...
1496
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:45,760
Different than brothers,
1497
01:00:45,810 --> 01:00:47,100
different than family.
1498
01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:49,430
We don’t know why it is,
we don’t know how it is.
1499
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,850
We just know
that’s how it got to,
1500
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:53,520
and, uh, we’re cool with that.
1501
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,400
He’s--he’s a good one
to have on your side.
1502
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,070
The fact that he was there,
1503
01:00:59,110 --> 01:01:00,990
uh, in Kentucky,
1504
01:01:01,030 --> 01:01:04,490
um, you know,
a day after I had my accident
1505
01:01:04,530 --> 01:01:07,620
was, uh, it was, uh,
it was remarkable.
1506
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:09,620
It really speaks
to his character, right?
1507
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,000
He was just that kind of guy.
1508
01:01:16,130 --> 01:01:17,340
[Perry] Jason and I,
1509
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:19,800
we were trying
to tell people back then
1510
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,630
that, you know,
what’s coming to be true now--
1511
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:23,090
we’re gonna do other things
1512
01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:24,550
that aren’t gonna be
as successful.
1513
01:01:24,590 --> 01:01:25,510
You gotta know that.
1514
01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,010
Everybody is.
1515
01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:29,560
Not, you know, you don’t
hit a grand slam every time up,
1516
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,190
but you also don’t quit
coming up to bat either,
1517
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,980
and, uh, that’s the trick.
1518
01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:35,310
You gotta keep
coming up to bat,
1519
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,480
and you hit the ball,
and you do what you do.
1520
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,690
I joined Hallmark
as an executive,
1521
01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:42,780
and one of my first meetings
was with Luke Perry,
1522
01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,660
because he had done a movie
for Hallmark
1523
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:46,660
called The Gunfighter’s Pledge,
1524
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:49,620
and Luke loves Westerns.
1525
01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:52,160
As it turns out,
I love Westerns.
1526
01:01:52,210 --> 01:01:54,290
I grew up watching Bonanza,
1527
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:55,540
and The Wild, Wild West,
1528
01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,880
and the Virginian,
all that stuff,
1529
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,670
and we found out
we were both from Ohio,
1530
01:02:00,710 --> 01:02:02,840
so we really connected on that.
1531
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,260
Uh, mid-westerners
really connect out here
1532
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:07,510
when they find each other.
1533
01:02:07,550 --> 01:02:08,930
[Priestley]
The John Goodnight movies,
1534
01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:12,810
it was a concept that
he had written on a legal pad,
1535
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:15,520
on an airplane one night,
flying somewhere,
1536
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,520
and he took it in
to Barbara Fisher at Hallmark,
1537
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,320
and sold it!
1538
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,860
The same way he did
with 8 Seconds!
1539
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:23,110
He just, like, walked into
an executive’s office,
1540
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:25,410
said, "Hey, I got this idea.
What do you think?"
1541
01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:27,200
[laughing]
1542
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,240
And he didn’t have to
really convince me too much.
1543
01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:36,750
Luke played a circuit judge
in the wild western territories.
1544
01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:38,710
Luke knew the guy to go to,
1545
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:40,250
the ranch to go to,
1546
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,460
the guy, you know, Danny Virtue,
1547
01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:44,220
who dealt with the horses.
1548
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:46,380
He just--
He was immersed in it,
1549
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:48,890
but, like so many projects,
right?
1550
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:51,560
If you have the right name,
they get made,
1551
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,180
and for us, Luke Perry
was the--was a really good name.
1552
01:02:56,770 --> 01:02:58,400
Luke came up with the idea
1553
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,810
to have Jason Priestley
to direct it,
1554
01:02:59,860 --> 01:03:01,440
and we thought, "Oh, my god."
1555
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,570
First of all,
this is PR gold, you know?
1556
01:03:03,610 --> 01:03:04,860
But not to mention
1557
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:06,700
that we knew Jason
was a really good director,
1558
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:08,280
but I just wanted to go
1559
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,530
and watch the two of them
together.
1560
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:14,120
[Priestley] Luke called me.
1561
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,580
He said, "Jay,
I’m developing this Western.
1562
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:16,540
I want to do it with ya,"
1563
01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:18,210
so, I said, uh,
1564
01:03:18,250 --> 01:03:19,710
I said, "Hey, great, man,
that’s perfect,"
1565
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,090
uh, because Luke and I have been
trying for a long time
1566
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:26,220
to find, uh, something
to work on together again.
1567
01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:28,180
[Perry] I have
such a good shorthand with Jay,
1568
01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:30,600
and, um, he’s very talented.
1569
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,600
He composes a great frame.
1570
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,810
He is so close to this script,
1571
01:03:33,850 --> 01:03:35,850
and so close
to this character already,
1572
01:03:35,890 --> 01:03:37,230
um, because he’s been--
1573
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:38,640
You know, he’s been living
with this character
1574
01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:39,940
for a couple years.
1575
01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:41,440
I got to spend two months, uh,
1576
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,440
just hanging out with Luke
every day.
1577
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,440
He would come with me
on location scouts,
1578
01:03:45,490 --> 01:03:47,070
and he was super involved,
1579
01:03:47,110 --> 01:03:49,240
and, you know, that--
I think that movie,
1580
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,120
and ultimately
that series of movies,
1581
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,490
I think was incredibly
important to him.
1582
01:03:54,830 --> 01:03:56,120
[Perry] As a kid,
I’d sit around,
1583
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,540
and I’d watch
all these Westerns,
1584
01:03:57,580 --> 01:03:58,790
and I just thought,
"Well, I’d love to do that,
1585
01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:00,250
and I’d love to do that,"
1586
01:04:00,290 --> 01:04:03,040
and now I just, sort of,
find myself drawn to stories
1587
01:04:03,090 --> 01:04:04,340
that will allow me
to get involved
1588
01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:06,340
in the action sequences
of my dreams.
1589
01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:07,340
[screaming]
1590
01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:10,380
[gunshot blasting]
1591
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,970
Who the hell are you?
1592
01:04:15,010 --> 01:04:17,350
My name’s
John William Goodnight.
1593
01:04:17,390 --> 01:04:19,190
I’m a circuit judge.
1594
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:20,770
Sworn jurisdiction
in this territory.
1595
01:04:20,810 --> 01:04:24,610
There’s two of us
and one of you.
1596
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:26,070
I like those odds.
1597
01:04:26,110 --> 01:04:29,070
When I drop this hammer,
one of you is gonna be dead.
1598
01:04:29,110 --> 01:04:30,700
There’s a 50/50 chance
that’s you.
1599
01:04:30,740 --> 01:04:32,200
You still like
those odds, gambler?
1600
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,950
[gunshots blasting]
1601
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,540
[horse nickering]
1602
01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:43,840
[Priestley] John Goodnight
was an alcoholic,
1603
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,920
for sure... [laughing]
1604
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,010
...and a womanizer, for sure...
1605
01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:51,010
[♪]
1606
01:04:51,050 --> 01:04:53,010
...and Luke wrote all that
into the character,
1607
01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:55,180
and I think that Luke understood
1608
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:57,100
complex characters
are just more interesting,
1609
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:58,930
and complex characters
are what people want to watch.
1610
01:05:01,850 --> 01:05:03,060
[Barbara Fisher]
I’ve made a lot of movies,
1611
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,520
and been in television
for a lot of years,
1612
01:05:05,570 --> 01:05:08,230
and I can’t really say
1613
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,860
that I became close friends
with the people I worked with,
1614
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:14,450
but something was different
about Luke.
1615
01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:17,080
If you connected with him,
you’ve connected,
1616
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,540
and when he felt a connection,
1617
01:05:19,580 --> 01:05:21,790
he made you his friend.
1618
01:05:21,830 --> 01:05:24,880
I mean, I kinda thought, like,
you know, we--
1619
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,590
I was an executive,
we got the movies made,
1620
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:27,840
we had a good time,
1621
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,210
kinda end of story,
1622
01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:31,090
but that’s not what Luke did,
1623
01:05:31,130 --> 01:05:32,800
and I didn’t take the lead,
Luke did.
1624
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,050
[horse neighing]
1625
01:05:42,350 --> 01:05:44,100
[Wappler] You know, when
I started working on this book,
1626
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:47,230
and reading about
what an amazing Dad Luke was.
1627
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:49,150
You know, Luke had two children.
1628
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:51,700
You know, he made choices
in his career
1629
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,820
to be closer to them.
1630
01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:55,820
Like, he wouldn’t take
certain jobs or roles,
1631
01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:58,330
because they would take him
too far away from his family,
1632
01:05:58,370 --> 01:06:00,830
so he really wanted to be
present in his kids’ lives.
1633
01:06:00,870 --> 01:06:02,040
That really meant a lot to him.
1634
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,880
[Priestley]
When Luke and Minnie had Jack,
1635
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,050
I could tell that
it affected him, uh, deeply,
1636
01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:11,090
and that, you know,
I think he felt the weight
1637
01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:13,470
of, uh, of being a parent,
1638
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:14,800
like we all do.
1639
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,220
He couldn’t have been happier.
1640
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:19,890
I think he’d wanted
to be a dad for a long time.
1641
01:06:19,930 --> 01:06:22,020
I think being a dad
was something he was proud of.
1642
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,640
Being around kids,
um, he really liked.
1643
01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:26,150
He had a soft way.
1644
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,530
[Swanson] I remember
his kids being very little,
1645
01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:33,280
and he’d show you pictures.
1646
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,990
He just, he couldn’t stop
talking about his kids.
1647
01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:37,990
They were his pride and joy.
1648
01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:58,010
The first time I met him
was 90210,
1649
01:06:58,050 --> 01:07:01,720
and I had just moved
from Chicago to L.A.,
1650
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,980
and I think I did, like...
1651
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:06,480
maybe three gigs,
1652
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,980
and then I got 90210,
1653
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,150
and I remember, like, Luke,
1654
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:12,780
I was, like, "That’s Luke--
That’s Luke Perry.
1655
01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:13,820
Oh, my god, that’s Luke--
1656
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:15,360
Hi, nice to meet you!"
1657
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,490
And, like, just being cool,
"I got it, I got it, I got it."
1658
01:07:17,530 --> 01:07:19,990
I think I only did, like,
one or two episodes,
1659
01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:22,240
but, um, it was
a very, very brief encounter,
1660
01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:26,160
and then when I saw Luke again
on Riverdale,
1661
01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:27,710
I was, like,
"Do you remember me?"
1662
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:28,880
and he’s, like,
"I totally remember you!"
1663
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,710
On Riverdale,
1664
01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:32,210
we were at the drive-thru,
1665
01:07:32,250 --> 01:07:35,880
where our characters remember
their past lives together.
1666
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,130
In that moment,
it was art imitating life.
1667
01:07:38,180 --> 01:07:40,680
You know, I’m having deja-vu.
1668
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,810
Yeah, senior year,
we’re here watching Candyman.
1669
01:07:43,850 --> 01:07:44,850
God, I hated that movie.
1670
01:07:44,890 --> 01:07:47,190
[laughing] You picked it.
1671
01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:48,980
I was up there alone
with my daughter,
1672
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:52,770
who was, I think, maybe
eight or nine at the time,
1673
01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,070
and I hadn’t been to Vancouver,
1674
01:07:55,110 --> 01:07:56,860
so, Luke was, like, "Hey,
1675
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:58,950
do you know about
the little ferry boats?
1676
01:07:58,990 --> 01:08:00,110
You can catch them,
1677
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,160
and they’ll take you
and your daughter,
1678
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,620
and you go over
to Granville Island.
1679
01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:04,080
You can shop around."
1680
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,950
And I must have looked, like,
a little, like, confused
1681
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,080
about where to go,
or what to do,
1682
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,870
and he’s, like,
"You know what...
1683
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,460
are you free Saturday?"
1684
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:13,090
And I was, like, "Yeah,"
1685
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:14,750
and he’s, like,
"I’ll take you guys,"
1686
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,960
and he got us on the ferry,
1687
01:08:16,010 --> 01:08:17,050
and he went
and did the whole thing.
1688
01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:19,380
He was just, like, hosting us,
1689
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:20,840
for no reason whatsoever,
1690
01:08:20,890 --> 01:08:24,350
except for just to be
a great guy.
1691
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:26,930
That’s who Luke was.
1692
01:08:33,020 --> 01:08:34,110
[Gabriel Correa]
I think maybe the kids,
1693
01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:35,860
maybe KJ told me the story.
1694
01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:37,650
You know, it was at the end
of season one,
1695
01:08:37,690 --> 01:08:39,070
and they were having
some dinner here,
1696
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:41,990
and I think Luke took that
as a moment
1697
01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:45,330
to sort of tell them
a little piece of advice,
1698
01:08:45,370 --> 01:08:47,160
and, you know, he was not
the loudest guy in the room,
1699
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,710
so I can imagine
how he sort of presented this,
1700
01:08:51,750 --> 01:08:53,960
but say something
to the tune of, like,
1701
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,130
"Your lives are about to change.
1702
01:08:56,170 --> 01:08:57,460
Like, do you realize that,"
1703
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:59,170
and, like,
what does that mean, right?
1704
01:08:59,220 --> 01:09:01,930
I honestly don’t know
how the kids took it.
1705
01:09:01,970 --> 01:09:04,300
I’m sure some, maybe,
believed him,
1706
01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:05,810
some not, um,
1707
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,810
but, you know,
if you think of Luke’s career,
1708
01:09:08,850 --> 01:09:10,850
to him, it’s kind of, like,
"I’ve seen it all.
1709
01:09:10,890 --> 01:09:12,940
I’ve seen the good,
the bad, the ugly,
1710
01:09:12,980 --> 01:09:15,190
and I’m here
sort of telling you
1711
01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:18,070
that despite what you think
is gonna happen to you,
1712
01:09:18,110 --> 01:09:19,490
I lived through it,
1713
01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:20,490
and this is the reality."
1714
01:09:22,110 --> 01:09:23,570
[Michael Scott]
Well, I think it’s, you know,
1715
01:09:23,610 --> 01:09:25,620
he saw himself in them,
1716
01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:26,620
-the way he had been--
-Yeah.
1717
01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:27,910
...you know, back then,
1718
01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:29,410
and he wished, I think,
1719
01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:32,460
that--that somebody had told him
a little bit of the ropes,
1720
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:34,790
and I think he probably
learned the hard way,
1721
01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:38,880
in terms of the challenges
of being, you know,
1722
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,170
an ensemble in a series,
1723
01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:43,180
and some of the politics,
and jockeying for position.
1724
01:09:43,220 --> 01:09:44,800
I mean, there’s all kinds
of other layers
1725
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,930
that go on behind the scenes.
1726
01:09:45,970 --> 01:09:47,810
That just makes sense to me
1727
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:49,310
that he would want to mentor,
1728
01:09:49,350 --> 01:09:51,850
in a fatherly kind of way,
these people,
1729
01:09:51,890 --> 01:09:53,520
these young--
these young actors,
1730
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,690
because I think he was
a real mentoring type.
1731
01:09:56,730 --> 01:09:58,070
That’s kind of who he was.
1732
01:09:58,110 --> 01:09:59,820
Not everybody’s good at that.
1733
01:09:59,860 --> 01:10:01,190
Luke was really good at that.
1734
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,280
[Hoda Kotb] Luke,
do you have any advice?
1735
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,700
Because sometimes,
I mean, look,
1736
01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:04,910
everyone who’s gone
through that, you’ve been--
1737
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:05,870
Yeah, and especially
with this one,
1738
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:06,830
because he’s so talented,
1739
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:07,660
and such a great actor.
1740
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:09,160
Concentrate on the work,
1741
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,120
and play different parts,
you know,
1742
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,120
and treat everybody well,
1743
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,210
and he’s--he’s doing great.
1744
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:27,010
[Correa] I started on Riverdale
as an Assistant Director,
1745
01:10:27,050 --> 01:10:29,640
and for people who have no idea
what that is,
1746
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,680
you’re like a conductor.
1747
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,810
Luke was there,
1748
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:33,430
and, you know,
he’d pull me to the side,
1749
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:35,650
and he’s, like...
1750
01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:38,440
"I see what you’re doing,
you know?"
1751
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,190
He’s like...
1752
01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:41,940
"Next year,
1753
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:43,940
I think you should be
directing one of these,
1754
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:45,610
but you just--
you just do your thing,
1755
01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:46,950
and it’s gonna happen,"
1756
01:10:46,990 --> 01:10:51,040
and then he said--
He said, "We’ll push for it..."
1757
01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:56,250
And...
1758
01:10:56,290 --> 01:10:59,710
after I got a chance
to direct there,
1759
01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:01,460
I did my first episode.
1760
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:03,380
I had one scene with Luke.
1761
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:05,720
He comes to me
after he’s wrapped,
1762
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,260
and he’s, like, "Hey...
1763
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:09,600
you’re doing amazing, man.
1764
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,010
Like, I see what you’re doing.
1765
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:13,640
You’re smart,
you’re getting what you need.
1766
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,140
Just don’t think about it.
1767
01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,100
Just keep breathing.
1768
01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:17,560
Do your thing.
1769
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,060
Don’t overthink, do your thing.
You’re doing amazing."
1770
01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:21,400
100%!
1771
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:22,320
We’re gonna sing
like we’re at karaoke. Like...
1772
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,400
[Correa]
To me, it was very clear
1773
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,660
that Luke’s support
was about the work,
1774
01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:29,070
and that’s what was really cool,
1775
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,990
because he was a pro.
1776
01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:38,460
[Young] "All journeys in life
start with one step.
1777
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:40,460
I took a step into your office,
1778
01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:43,420
and it was the first step
on the trip of my life.
1779
01:11:43,460 --> 01:11:44,670
What a ride!
1780
01:11:44,710 --> 01:11:46,300
Thanks for believing in me.
1781
01:11:46,340 --> 01:11:48,800
Love, Luke Perry."
1782
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:52,180
After Luke was hired,
1783
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:53,640
he came to my office,
1784
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,390
and he said, "I have a present--
1785
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:56,770
couple presents
I wanna give you,"
1786
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:58,730
and I said,
"A magnifying glass?"
1787
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:00,190
He says,
"Yes, that’s for you
1788
01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:01,610
to keep looking
for more people,
1789
01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:05,280
and-- like you did,
and you found me,"
1790
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,200
and he goes, "And the horseshoe
is for luck in finding them."
1791
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,820
[laughing]
1792
01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:11,200
[♪]
1793
01:12:14,290 --> 01:12:16,540
Could’ve been, like, four years
after I’m living in Los Angeles,
1794
01:12:16,580 --> 01:12:19,000
something happened to me
where I ended up in the hospital
1795
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,630
for three months,
1796
01:12:20,670 --> 01:12:24,130
and one of my friends
shared a manager with Luke,
1797
01:12:24,170 --> 01:12:25,460
so, unbeknownst to me,
1798
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,800
she wrote an email
to her manager,
1799
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,590
and was, like, "My friend
is a huge fan of Luke Perry.
1800
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:33,760
Is there any way
he could call her,
1801
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,560
or send her a ’Get Well’ card?"
1802
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,850
So, one day, um,
I’m in the hospital,
1803
01:12:38,890 --> 01:12:41,480
and I had just had
a sponge bath,
1804
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,860
and I have no makeup on,
1805
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:46,320
I have, like, my--
and my glasses on,
1806
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,240
you know, my hair’s
in a French braid.
1807
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,530
I basically look like
how I looked
1808
01:12:49,570 --> 01:12:51,910
when I was nine years old,
watching the show.
1809
01:12:51,950 --> 01:12:53,820
The door opens...
1810
01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:56,490
...and I swear to God,
1811
01:12:56,540 --> 01:12:58,290
Luke Perry is standing
at my door,
1812
01:12:58,330 --> 01:13:00,000
and he walks in,
1813
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,670
and he shuts the door
behind him,
1814
01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:02,630
and he comes over,
1815
01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:03,830
and he, like, hugs me,
1816
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,130
and now I’m, like,
crying in his arm,
1817
01:13:06,170 --> 01:13:08,170
and then I realize I’m crying
in Luke Perry’s arm,
1818
01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:09,630
so then I start crying harder,
1819
01:13:09,670 --> 01:13:12,380
and then he goes, "It’s okay.
1820
01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:14,180
It’s just you and me.
1821
01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:15,850
It’s just you and me
right now."
1822
01:13:15,890 --> 01:13:17,520
[slapping table]
I’m, like, "This guy...
1823
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,930
This guy!"
1824
01:13:18,970 --> 01:13:22,520
You know, he was so patient
with me and my freakout,
1825
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,350
and then, eventually,
I collected myself,
1826
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,610
and he pulled up a chair,
1827
01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:27,280
and he sat across
from my hospital bed,
1828
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,530
and we chatted.
1829
01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:30,110
We just talked
for, like, an hour,
1830
01:13:30,150 --> 01:13:32,530
and it was all so surreal,
1831
01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:36,240
and just a quick note on
be careful what you wish for,
1832
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,120
because
I was not wearing sweatpants
1833
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,370
the day I met Luke Perry.
1834
01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:41,370
I was wearing no pants.
1835
01:13:41,410 --> 01:13:42,500
Then he says,
1836
01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:43,750
"I’m so glad
1837
01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:46,040
your mom didn’t take you
to the mall that day,
1838
01:13:46,090 --> 01:13:48,250
because that’s not
how we were supposed to meet.
1839
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:50,210
This is how we were
supposed to meet,
1840
01:13:50,260 --> 01:13:52,220
because now
we know each other."
1841
01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:54,220
I mean-- and, by the way, also,
1842
01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:55,430
now I forgive my mom
1843
01:13:55,470 --> 01:13:57,050
for not taking me
to the Freehold Mall.
1844
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,390
I’ve been in movies, I’ve-
1845
01:13:59,430 --> 01:14:01,390
I’ve done
very, very cool things.
1846
01:14:01,430 --> 01:14:03,390
I survived a car crash.
1847
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,230
This was
the best day of my life.
1848
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:06,810
[♪]
1849
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,010
[Winters] He didn’t call me
1850
01:14:33,050 --> 01:14:35,090
when he booked
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
1851
01:14:35,130 --> 01:14:36,680
I saw it in the trades.
1852
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,260
I called him immediately.
1853
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,100
I was, like, "You mother--"
1854
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:42,480
I was, like, "I am so [bleep]
happy for you,"
1855
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,180
because everyone wants to be
in a Tarantino film.
1856
01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:45,270
Period.
1857
01:14:45,310 --> 01:14:46,690
So, I mean, I called him,
1858
01:14:46,730 --> 01:14:48,360
and I was, like, "Luke,"
I was like, "This is amazing!"
1859
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,520
He’s, like, "I know, brother."
1860
01:14:49,570 --> 01:14:50,980
He goes, "Isn’t this crazy?"
1861
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:54,110
He goes, "I didn’t think
this was ever going to happen."
1862
01:14:54,150 --> 01:14:55,280
I go, "How did it happen?"
1863
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,490
He goes, "I don’t know."
1864
01:14:56,530 --> 01:14:58,620
I met him at the read-through
1865
01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:00,620
for Once Upon a Time
in Hollywood.
1866
01:15:00,660 --> 01:15:03,620
We, more or less, were two guys
1867
01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:06,960
known for their television work,
1868
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,460
and there we were
surrounded by movie stars,
1869
01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:13,630
so, you know,
immediate sort of connection,
1870
01:15:13,670 --> 01:15:18,430
as in, "How about us
hanging out at the table?
1871
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:19,550
How’d we find ourselves here?"
1872
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,310
[paparazzi shouting]
1873
01:15:22,350 --> 01:15:23,310
[Olyphant] I remember
1874
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:24,850
even Margot Robbie was, like,
1875
01:15:24,890 --> 01:15:26,390
"I’ve never been
to a read-through like this,"
1876
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,690
and I was just like, "Yeah."
1877
01:15:29,150 --> 01:15:30,940
I just remember Quentin,
1878
01:15:30,980 --> 01:15:33,690
his respect for Luke,
1879
01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:36,820
and how psyched he was
that he was doing it.
1880
01:15:36,860 --> 01:15:38,200
You know, he was
in that powder-blue suit,
1881
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,490
and I was in the cool red shirt
1882
01:15:40,530 --> 01:15:42,990
with the brown leather jacket.
1883
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,200
I remember saying to him,
1884
01:15:44,250 --> 01:15:45,500
"I don’t know
if we got the coolest part,
1885
01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:47,830
but we definitely got
the coolest wardrobe,"
1886
01:15:47,870 --> 01:15:51,130
and, you know,
he had that thing that, um...
1887
01:15:51,170 --> 01:15:52,340
You know, you’re on a set
1888
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:53,920
and you’re behind a monitor,
1889
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,170
and they’re showing you
playback or something,
1890
01:15:56,220 --> 01:15:57,720
and even if the take’s fine,
1891
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,680
even if it’s really good,
1892
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,300
I remember always seeing, like,
1893
01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:02,760
when they called "Cut,"
1894
01:16:02,810 --> 01:16:06,180
that was the most natural moment
right there, right?
1895
01:16:06,230 --> 01:16:08,770
[laughing] Right?
1896
01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:10,230
My point being
1897
01:16:10,270 --> 01:16:12,690
is my experiences
working with Luke
1898
01:16:12,730 --> 01:16:14,360
is you couldn’t
tell the difference.
1899
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,490
It didn’t matter
whether we were rolling
1900
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:17,950
or not rolling,
1901
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:20,030
you’re just talking
to Luke Perry.
1902
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:22,410
He and I were
sitting across from each other
1903
01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:23,530
in that little stagecoach,
1904
01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:25,080
and we definitely had
those moments.
1905
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,250
I remember looking at him
1906
01:16:26,290 --> 01:16:28,370
and saying,
"Look at us, you and me."
1907
01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:29,920
And... cut!
1908
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,210
You know, Quentin does
this thing--
1909
01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:32,380
Shooting on film,
1910
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:33,880
it’s the old thing, right?
1911
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,960
He wants two takes,
and he’s moving on.
1912
01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:37,630
He refers to those two takes
1913
01:16:37,670 --> 01:16:40,550
as the big sister
and little sister,
1914
01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:43,470
so we’re doing
that stagecoach scene,
1915
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:44,470
we did that whole take,
1916
01:16:44,510 --> 01:16:46,020
the scene you just showed me,
1917
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,810
and Quentin says, you know,
1918
01:16:48,850 --> 01:16:51,150
"We have our second sister..."
1919
01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:53,650
and so the whole crew
starts to pick up,
1920
01:16:53,690 --> 01:16:55,770
knowing that means
we’re moving on,
1921
01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:59,530
and then Quentin says,
"But you know what?
1922
01:16:59,570 --> 01:17:01,860
Let’s do one more,"
1923
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:07,160
and the crew within earshot
all yell, "Why?"
1924
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,830
and then, the crew then,
1925
01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:11,000
within further out,
1926
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,130
’cause they heard
everybody yell, "Why?"
1927
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:16,840
all yell, in unison,
at the top of their lungs,
1928
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,220
"Because we love making movies!"
1929
01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:21,930
And then everybody cheers,
1930
01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:24,760
and they go back to one.
1931
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,850
And... [ chuckling]
and I remember that moment,
1932
01:17:28,890 --> 01:17:30,810
and I look across at him,
1933
01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:33,190
and he pulls up that blue suit,
1934
01:17:33,230 --> 01:17:34,190
and he goes--
1935
01:17:34,230 --> 01:17:35,360
shows me his arm,
1936
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,570
he’s got goosebumps
all over his arm...
1937
01:17:37,610 --> 01:17:39,150
[laughing]
1938
01:17:39,190 --> 01:17:42,530
...and I just thought,
"Yeah, you and me both, buddy,
1939
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:44,700
you and me both. Not bad."
1940
01:17:44,740 --> 01:17:47,280
Leo, you have this
amazing scene with Luke Perry
1941
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:48,450
who plays a TV actor--
1942
01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:49,700
See, honey?
1943
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:53,290
I told you
they’d come to parlay.
1944
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:55,290
You all right, honey?
1945
01:17:55,330 --> 01:17:57,250
Oh, she’s just fine.
1946
01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:59,460
[DiCaprio]
I was just immediately struck
1947
01:17:59,510 --> 01:18:01,380
by his--his kindness.
1948
01:18:01,420 --> 01:18:05,050
And you know, talking about
being a native of Los Angeles,
1949
01:18:05,090 --> 01:18:07,930
being around this industry
my entire life,
1950
01:18:07,970 --> 01:18:09,680
and really having it,
you know, in a lot of ways,
1951
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,640
shaped who I am.
1952
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,560
I--There was
this immediate excitement
1953
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,060
in seeing Luke Perry,
you know, on set.
1954
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:18,980
-[chuckling]
-It was incredible.
1955
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:21,990
I--I remember being,
you know, in my teens,
1956
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:25,660
and he was the manifestation
of the new Dean on television,
1957
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:27,370
and everyone
was crazy about him,
1958
01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:29,740
and I actu-- I felt
this overwhelming feeling
1959
01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:31,910
of kind of being starstruck,
1960
01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:33,750
but then he and I
got to sit down
1961
01:18:33,790 --> 01:18:36,380
and talk about Los Angeles,
the ’90s,
1962
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,630
his life, where he--
where his career had gone,
1963
01:18:39,670 --> 01:18:40,800
where my career had gone,
1964
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,420
where his life had gone,
where my--
1965
01:18:42,460 --> 01:18:45,340
and I could--
I was just so, um...
1966
01:18:45,380 --> 01:18:46,590
how do I say this?
1967
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,800
The kindness of his character,
1968
01:18:48,850 --> 01:18:51,720
just an incredibly generous
human being.
1969
01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:55,350
[news reporter]
Family, friends, and fans
1970
01:18:55,390 --> 01:18:57,770
are mourning the death
of actor, Luke Perry,
1971
01:18:57,810 --> 01:19:00,110
who died this morning
at the age of 52,
1972
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:03,070
following a massive stroke
last week.
1973
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,910
His publicist says
he died in L.A.,
1974
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:10,830
surrounded by
his family and friends.
1975
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,000
[Priestley] The morning
that Luke had his stroke,
1976
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,330
I was at home.
1977
01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:18,830
I was in my kitchen,
1978
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:19,880
and my phone rang,
1979
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:20,960
and it was Jenny...
1980
01:19:22,210 --> 01:19:26,170
...and Jenny told me
that Luke had had a stroke,
1981
01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:27,300
and they were--
1982
01:19:27,340 --> 01:19:29,470
and he was on his way
to the hospital,
1983
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:31,140
and I was shocked,
1984
01:19:31,180 --> 01:19:32,680
and I was stunned.
1985
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,100
I think Brian Austin Green
texted me.
1986
01:19:36,140 --> 01:19:38,400
I not sure-- I don’t think
it had hit the press yet,
1987
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:40,190
and, uh...
1988
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,820
Yeah. That was... sucked.
1989
01:19:50,410 --> 01:19:52,530
[bleep] terrible.
1990
01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:53,450
I had just-- I had--
1991
01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:54,750
I knew someone
1992
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,750
who had passed away
from a stroke before that,
1993
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:58,160
and so I didn’t have
a whole lot of faith.
1994
01:19:58,210 --> 01:19:59,790
I wanted to, you know?
1995
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,340
I don’t think anyone
used the word "brother" with me
1996
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:06,010
the way that he did.
1997
01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:09,130
We had really great
conversations,
1998
01:20:09,180 --> 01:20:12,220
and almost nothing to do
with the business,
1999
01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:13,430
you know what I mean?
2000
01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:14,680
So I appreciated that about him.
2001
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,350
I just--I just miss, uh,
2002
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:17,850
I miss having him as a friend.
2003
01:20:17,890 --> 01:20:21,060
I hope I see him again
sometime, you know?
2004
01:20:24,690 --> 01:20:26,230
If Luke was here...
2005
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,490
...I would tell him,
2006
01:20:29,530 --> 01:20:30,610
first of all,
2007
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:32,450
I’m so sorry...
2008
01:20:32,490 --> 01:20:34,370
that you didn’t get more time.
2009
01:20:37,870 --> 01:20:40,210
Luke Perry’s in Heaven.
2010
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:43,130
I’m a crazy Christian.
2011
01:20:43,170 --> 01:20:45,460
He’s riding
all the best bulls now, bro.
2012
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:46,550
[laughing]
2013
01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:47,710
He’s on the--
2014
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,090
He’s-He’s
on the ultimate ranch now.
2015
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:55,600
[Swanson] He was just
one of those people
2016
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,020
that touched my life
in such a great way,
2017
01:20:59,060 --> 01:21:02,560
and someone that I looked up to,
2018
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,360
someone I admired,
2019
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,730
appreciated,
2020
01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:08,690
just one of those people
that you just--
2021
01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:09,990
that they’re always
in your mind,
2022
01:21:10,030 --> 01:21:11,070
and you’ll never forget them.
2023
01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:20,500
[whispering] Thank you.
2024
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,790
[deep breath]
2025
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:31,470
I’m an eternal optimist.
2026
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:32,760
I thought,
"Yeah, he’s had a stroke.
2027
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,550
You know, my dad had a stroke
a few years ago.
2028
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,060
You know, he’ll be--
he’ll be okay."
2029
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:40,890
At that point in time,
I was talking to Jenny,
2030
01:21:40,930 --> 01:21:42,310
and I was talking to Ian,
I was talking to Brian,
2031
01:21:42,350 --> 01:21:45,360
I was talking to Gabby,
I was talking to everybody...
2032
01:21:46,690 --> 01:21:49,320
...and then he passed away,
and it was, um...
2033
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:56,780
...it was, uh, it was--
2034
01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:58,910
It was a shock, and it was sad,
2035
01:21:58,950 --> 01:22:02,370
’cause... he was a...
2036
01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:09,340
...he was a bright light.
2037
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:17,550
When my time here is up,
2038
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,890
I don’t wanna look back
2039
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:20,520
and see that I didn’t
do anything, you know?
2040
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,060
And by that, I mean, uh,
2041
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:24,480
I didn’t have any effect
on anything else, I didn’t...
2042
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,850
I see a lot of people
2043
01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:27,900
that let their life
happen to them,
2044
01:22:27,940 --> 01:22:29,770
and I want to happen
to my life.
2045
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,400
I don’t want my life
to happen to me.
2046
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,200
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