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Previously on "Fiasco"...
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A revolution in Nicaragua
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brings a new government
into power,
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and President Reagan
believes the Cold War
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now has a new front.
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When the White House
launches a secret campaign
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to support an opposition
movement known as the Contras,
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Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North
is tapped to lead the effort.
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The Masters golf tourney
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in Augusta, Georgia
each year
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beckons to the greats
of the golf world.
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The royalty of golf holds sway
over the crowded galleries
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on their tours
around the difficult course.
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One of the perks
of being president
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is that if you feel like
playing a few rounds of golf
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at one of the most prestigious
clubs in the world,
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you can just make that happen.
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In October of 1983,
it was a golfing weekend
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for President and Mrs. Reagan.
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They were going to
the Augusta National Golf Club.
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The club was actually closed,
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so it was a perfect time
for the Reagans to go.
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It was good weather,
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and...it was supposed to be
a very quiet weekend.
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Reagan was playing golf
on the 16th hole...
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And someone drove their pickup
truck through the gate.
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They actually rammed
the chain-link fence.
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He took two White House staff
as hostages at gunpoint,
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held them, and said he wanted
to meet with President Reagan.
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The hostage taker
was named Charles R. Harris,
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and it was remarkable that
he made it as far as he did.
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Remember, there had been
an assassination attempt
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made on Reagan in 1981.
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Heightened security
had become the norm.
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The Augusta National Golf Club
was totally fenced in,
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and it was pointed out
that security is quite good,
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in addition to our
Secret Service and everything.
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They knocked the gate down.
Initially, the truck backed up,
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rammed the gate again,
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knocked it completely down,
and rode over it.
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It was suggested
by Chief of Staff Don Regan
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to just communicate with him,
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try to do it by phone
and go from there.
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But we've got to get
our two hostages,
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our two staff, freed.
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The president called
the phone in the pro shop
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to see if he could talk
to Harris and broker a deal.
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Harris didn't believe
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that it was actually Reagan
on the line.
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So he hung up and pulled
the phone out of the wall.
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Augusta National
was sealed off,
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and Air Force One
prepared for evacuation.
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And then, almost as quickly
as it started,
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the crisis was over.
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About 2 1/2 hours later,
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after demands
for whiskey and food,
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the seventh hostage bolted
from the room where he was held
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and escaped unharmed.
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The subject was captured.
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Harris would later say
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that a combination
of his recent job loss,
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Reagan's economic policies,
and a bottle of tequila
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drove him to go to the Augusta
National Club that day.
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As hostage incidents go,
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this one resolved itself
pretty easily.
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But if it had happened
on any other day,
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it would have been
a much bigger story.
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Good afternoon.
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The count of American dead
in today's terrorist attack
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on the U.S. Marine compound
in Beirut stands at 135.
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In the middle of the night,
in Beirut, at the airport,
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where we had
marines stationed,
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a truck drove
through a checkpoint
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loaded with dynamite,
detonated--a suicide attack.
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The explosion in Lebanon
was the deadliest attack
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against U.S. Marines
since Iwo Jima.
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It was terrible, terrible
time for President Reagan.
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There are no words
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to properly
express our outrage
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and I think the outrage
of all Americans.
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In many ways, the ongoing
conflict in Lebanon
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would define
Reagan's second term.
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The blood feud
in the Mideast continues.
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Lebanon is the arena
for nearly everybody's battle.
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The country is
bleeding for nine years.
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We have not more--we want
the world not to bleed anymore.
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It is the key
to understanding how Reagan
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would become a captive
of his own hostage crisis,
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just like Jimmy Carter had
before him.
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Four Lebanese employees
of the Associated Press
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in Beirut have disappeared.
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Once again,
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Americans are held hostage
in the Middle East.
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They are beating
the passengers.
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They are threatening
to kill them now.
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The president had campaigned on
the idea of American strength.
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I don't understand
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why 52 Americans
have been held hostage
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for almost a year now.
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What would he do
now that tough talk
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was suddenly not enough?
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To what lengths would he go
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to bring his fellow
Americans home?
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We've never let up,
and we never will
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in trying to obtain the freedom
of all the hostages.
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I'm Leon Neyfakh.
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This is "
the Story of Iran-Contra."
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At Beirut, the jet-set
arrive in the same way
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they do at all the airports
in the world.
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Despite its small size,
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Lebanon has always
wielded great influence
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in the Arab world.
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The capital city of Beirut
was its pearl.
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I was born
and raised in Beirut.
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It was a lovely childhood,
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growing up in a country
that was, um, peaceful.
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Lebanon was
a very cosmopolitan place.
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We spent a lot of time
at the beach.
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We spent summers
in the mountains.
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And family life was really
what it should be.
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And I think, looking back,
it's what sustained me
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during the many hard years
of the war in Lebanon.
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It was during the mid-1970s,
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after nearly
two decades of peace,
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that Lebanon erupted
in civil war.
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Lebanon was struggling
to maintain a political order
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that had been established
in the '50s,
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something that was called
the Compact,
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where ethnic groups,
as groups,
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agree on a balance of power
and assigned roles.
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One group
is the prime minister.
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One group gets the presidency.
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One group gets the speaker
of the parliament.
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And that was the structure
that had endured.
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But it was under severe attack
because of the civil war.
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Things had kind
of started brewing
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in '75 and '74.
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And then I went
for my master's,
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and the country
blew up in flames.
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It's now a year
since Lebanon's social tensions
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finally and inevitably
exploded into war.
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There were days
that were normal.
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There were lulls
in the fighting.
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And there were days when
it was extremely dangerous.
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We always had the radio
up to our ear
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to listen to the news flashes
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on the various
Lebanese radio stations,
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representing various factions.
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What was really changing
was the most impoverished,
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the least powerful, the Shia,
were now being emboldened
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and strengthened
by the resurgence of Iran
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under Khomeini.
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And so what we saw was
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a further splintering
of Lebanese democracy,
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more violence, more terrorism,
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more intimidation.
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The Syrian military
had intervened.
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The Israelis had invaded.
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Everyone who was anyone
was involved in Lebanon.
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Back in Washington,
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Reagan's National
Security Council
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was keeping a close eye
on events in the Middle East.
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They relied in part on
the global alert system
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housed in Oliver North's office,
room 392.
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The flashboard was
where we put up
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the latest incidents--
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who was working on them
and what was happening,
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and, you know,
what were all the steps
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that needed to be taken.
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And, you know, was sort
of a real-time picture
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of global terrorism.
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Here, again,
it's important to go back
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to the year 1979.
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The year when revolution
took hold in Nicaragua,
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Ayatollah Khomeini
took power in Iran,
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52 American citizens
were held hostage in Tehran
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for 444 days.
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The turbulence of that year
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had a ripple effect
even after it ended.
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This was especially the case
in the Muslim world.
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Khomeini and Iran
saw Lebanon
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as a way to buffer itself
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against American retribution
or punishment.
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It was a very convenient and
strategic alliance with Iran
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that continues to this day.
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Before the civil war,
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Lebanon had been an ally
to the United States.
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But the instability
of the country
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had put that in danger.
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Now the Khomeini regime
in Iran
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was trying to stake out
a position in Lebanon.
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If Iran succeeded in gaining
influence in the region,
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it would be a disaster
for the U.S.,
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an upset
in the global balance of power.
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Sensing that things
were spiraling out of control,
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President Reagan sent
an emissary to Lebanon
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to negotiate a cease-fire.
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Ambassador Habib
has informed me
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that a plan to resolve
the West Beirut crisis
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has been agreed upon
by all the parties involved.
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As part of this plan,
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the government of Lebanon
has requested,
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and I have approved,
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the deployment of United States
forces to Beirut
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as part of
a multinational force.
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Our purpose will be to assist
the Lebanese armed forces
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in carrying out
their responsibility
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for enduring--
ensuring the departure
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of PLO leaders,
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officers, and combatants
in Beirut
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from Lebanese territory
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under safe
and orderly conditions.
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But Reagan's attempt
to contain the civil war
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didn't work.
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What was meant to be
a peacekeeping mission
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turned into something else.
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When Marines took fire
in Lebanon,
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the U.S. retaliated.
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And they were accused
of taking sides.
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And so the efforts
by the United States
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to bring about the removal
of all foreign forces...
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failed.
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Terror and chaos
reign in Beirut.
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Fighting was as bad,
or nearly as bad,
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as anything
since the civil war
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began back in 1975.
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Taking direct inspiration
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from the Iranian hostage
crisis of 1979...
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Four Lebanese employees
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of the Associated Press
here in Beirut this morning
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are still missing.
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Shiite radicals in Lebanon
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began to take hostages.
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The Iranians weren't
the first to do this.
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There was a long tradition
in Lebanon,
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as part of a fight
between clans
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or between ethnic groups
of taking people hostage.
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Some argue the
Islamic Fundamentalist movement
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at the base
of the hostage taking
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has grown not just in numbers
but also in fanaticism.
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After 1979,
the Iranians came to learn,
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as did everybody else
in the region,
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that you can get
a lot of leverage
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out of a couple of hostages
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when it came to dealing
with the United States.
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An American diplomat
is being held
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by kidnappers in Beirut
this morning.
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Several U.S. citizens
have been kidnapped.
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a fundamentalist Muslim group
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called the Party of God.
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And it's threatening
what they called a "black fate"
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if Washington
tries any retaliation.
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Our approach--
long, drawn out,
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attracting constant
media attention--
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that just played
to the Iranians
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and to the hostage takers.
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Any kind of hostage situation
creates a huge dilemma--
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whether you're going
to be able
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to recover those hostages
safely and securely
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or whether or not
you are going to be
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in a situation where,
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because you can't pay ransom,
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you're going to basically have
to risk losing their lives.
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It's a very difficult dilemma.
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They hold all the cards
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once they have these people
in their power.
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I can get mad enough now
to think of a couple of things
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we could do to retaliate.
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But I would probably
be sentencing
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a number of Americans
to death if I did it.
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They knew they had
created a business,
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and they could extract
all kinds of value from it.
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And as long
as we were not willing
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to make anyone pay
for this behavior,
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it was going to continue,
and it did.
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In February of 1984,
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Reagan withdrew
American troops from Lebanon.
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It was a controversial move.
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Critics believed it signified
a win for Islamic terrorism.
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It was a low point
in the Reagan presidency.
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But things were
about to get much worse.
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Between 1984 and 1985,
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seven Americans
were taken hostage in Beirut.
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Among them was
Reverend Benjamin Weir,
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a Presbyterian minister
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who had lived and worked
in Lebanon for 30 years.
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An American clergyman
has been kidnapped in Beirut.
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The story is still unfolding.
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My father was
the representative
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of the Presbyterian Church
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to the people of Lebanon,
Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
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He knew a lot of people.
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He was well-known.
He was well-liked.
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Early on the morning
of May 8, 1984,
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Reverend Weir
and his wife, Carol,
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were leaving their apartment.
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Police here say
he and his wife
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were walking down
a narrow lane in West Beirut
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when three unarmed men
overpowered him
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and then forced him into
a car, which sped away.
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My mom tried
to fight them off,
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and they basically
just muscled him into the car
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and drove off.
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I don't think
he was kidnapped
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for anything that
he has said or done.
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I think he was kidnapped
to give visibility
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to the disillusionment
people have here
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with the American policies
in this area.
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My father was very aware
of his situation
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and his surroundings.
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He didn't go out that much,
to be honest.
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I was never really worried
about that happening.
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In addition to Weir,
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the group of hostages
included a Catholic priest,
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a correspondent
for the Associated Press,
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and three employees of the
American University in Beirut.
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The White House
was most concerned
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with one hostage
in particular:
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a U.S. official
named William Buckley.
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There is no word at all
from Beirut tonight
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on the whereabouts of American
diplomat William Buckley.
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The political officer
at the U.S. embassy
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was kidnapped this morning
as he left for work.
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00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:17,324
But William Buckley
wasn't just a diplomat.
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He was a CIA agent.
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Before his capture, Buckley's
mission had been to rebuild
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00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:24,722
the agency's Middle Eastern
intelligence network.
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00:16:24,853 --> 00:16:27,769
It was a huge, important job.
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CIA director Bill Casey
had handpicked Buckley
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for the position
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after the U.S. embassy bombing
in Beirut in 1983.
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According to neighbors,
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Buckley was just leaving
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his apartment building
in his car this morning
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when three gunmen
in a white sedan
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suddenly drove up
and blocked the street.
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Buckley had been
with the CIA for decades.
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His capture was
a major security liability
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for the Reagan administration,
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and his well-being
became a top concern
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for President Reagan.
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The watchman
at Buckley's apartment
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said one of the gunmen walked
up to the diplomat's car,
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put a gun to his head,
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and ordered him
into their car.
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00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:07,635
But CIA director
Casey was especially troubled.
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Buckley was one of his men,
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00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:11,639
and he knew a lot of secrets
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00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,162
that his kidnappers
would surely try
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to torture out of him.
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00:17:14,511 --> 00:17:16,383
Bill Casey understood that
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if you really want to keep
morale up in your agency,
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you better let people know
you're gonna do everything
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you can to not
leave them behind.
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00:17:23,216 --> 00:17:26,610
We tried to use every
diplomatic channel we could
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to reach the captors.
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We didn't know
if he was dead or not.
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Generally, there's a rule
that we had
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when I was
secretary of defense:
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you never leave
anybody behind.
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You owe that person
who was taken
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every effort to try
to get that person back
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securely and safely.
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While the Reagan administration
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looked for ways
to save Buckley,
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the family of Benjamin Weir
remained in the dark.
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00:17:54,899 --> 00:17:56,858
Have you had any indication
from the state department
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00:17:56,988 --> 00:17:59,469
or anyone else
that your dad is alive?
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00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,906
Well, we hear
from time to time
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00:18:02,037 --> 00:18:05,040
through other sources
that he is alive and well.
371
00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:07,086
And everyone assumes
that he is alive.
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00:18:07,216 --> 00:18:09,436
But from day to day, we really
don't know if he is alive.
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We are wanting to try
to have an appointment
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00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:20,621
with the secretary of state
and to the president
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00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:26,366
to see if we can't speed up
the release of these men.
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00:18:26,496 --> 00:18:28,716
I remember talking
to my sisters
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00:18:28,846 --> 00:18:32,720
and my sisters being upset
and my mom being very upset.
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00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:36,506
You know, just the complete
lack of information.
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00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:38,029
My mother was just
very worried
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00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,554
about what people
would do to him.
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00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:42,251
She would always say,
you know,
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00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,514
"He's a very gentle man."
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00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:46,386
You know, I think
she was worried
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00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:48,605
that he would be injured
in some way
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00:18:48,736 --> 00:18:51,391
or killed in some way.
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00:18:51,521 --> 00:18:55,786
And then, suddenly,
there was news.
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00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:59,790
The letter was dated
February 15th.
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00:18:59,921 --> 00:19:04,534
It was mailed February 19th
from Beirut.
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00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:07,972
Reverend Weir's captors
released videos and letters,
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00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:10,323
giving his family the proof of
life they were desperate for.
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00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,455
"I am writing to ask you
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00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:16,155
"to do everything in your means
to demand
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00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:20,333
"that the U.S. government
intervene effectively
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00:19:20,463 --> 00:19:22,596
with the government of Kuwait."
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00:19:23,858 --> 00:19:26,165
The Shia group
holding Reverend Weir
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00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:29,994
wanted the U.S. to negotiate
a prisoner swap with Kuwait,
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00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:33,128
but the Reagan administration
was unwilling to assist.
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00:19:33,259 --> 00:19:35,435
While President Reagan
clearly wanted
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00:19:35,565 --> 00:19:37,872
to bring about freedom
for the hostages,
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00:19:38,002 --> 00:19:39,961
the American policy was,
401
00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:42,311
"We don't make concessions
to terrorists.
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00:19:42,442 --> 00:19:43,965
We're not gonna compromise."
403
00:19:44,095 --> 00:19:46,359
The United States gives
terrorists no rewards
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00:19:46,489 --> 00:19:47,969
and no guarantees.
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00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:51,538
We make no concessions.
We make no deals.
406
00:19:51,668 --> 00:19:53,801
"We make no deals."
407
00:19:53,931 --> 00:19:55,411
What started
as a talking point
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00:19:55,542 --> 00:19:57,631
in Reagan's campaign
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00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,763
had become a mantra
for the administration.
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00:20:01,852 --> 00:20:03,854
Let me further make it plain
to the assassins in Beirut
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00:20:03,985 --> 00:20:05,726
and their accomplices
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00:20:05,856 --> 00:20:09,164
that America will never make
concessions to terrorists.
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00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:11,993
We have tried our best,
through every kind of channel,
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00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:13,951
to establish
their whereabouts.
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00:20:14,082 --> 00:20:18,173
It is an extremely difficult,
seemingly impossible task.
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00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:20,436
And no, we haven't
given up on them.
417
00:20:20,567 --> 00:20:21,698
We have never given up.
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00:20:21,829 --> 00:20:24,875
It's--as you can realize,
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00:20:25,006 --> 00:20:26,964
it's very frustrating.
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00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,444
We're doing everything
that can be done,
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00:20:28,575 --> 00:20:30,054
and I have no further comments
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00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:31,621
that I'm going to make
at this time.
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00:20:31,752 --> 00:20:33,406
Every government
in the modern era
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00:20:33,536 --> 00:20:35,538
has had to figure out
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00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:37,801
what to do about
hostage-taking and terrorism.
426
00:20:37,932 --> 00:20:40,021
Some governments
are more known
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00:20:40,151 --> 00:20:42,719
for being willing
to strike deals.
428
00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,940
The United States has
almost always had a policy
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00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:48,899
of no negotiation--
at least a formal policy.
430
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:52,773
The Reagan White House had
made a lot of political hay
431
00:20:52,903 --> 00:20:55,993
out of Jimmy Carter's issues
with the hostages in Iran.
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00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:57,517
We've endured
this humiliation
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00:20:57,647 --> 00:20:59,475
for just lacking one week
of a year now.
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00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:00,824
People have been telling me
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00:21:00,955 --> 00:21:02,478
that Jimmy Carter's
doing his best,
436
00:21:02,609 --> 00:21:03,523
and that's our problem.
437
00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:06,656
It was pretty clear to us
438
00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:08,789
that they were
kind of suppressing,
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00:21:08,919 --> 00:21:10,791
as much as they could,
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00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:13,576
discussion of hostages
or use of the word "hostages,"
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00:21:13,707 --> 00:21:16,492
and they did not want
to have a hostage problem
442
00:21:16,623 --> 00:21:18,755
like Jimmy Carter'd had.
443
00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:20,757
Promising retaliation
had been easy
444
00:21:20,888 --> 00:21:22,977
when Reagan
was welcoming hostages home.
445
00:21:23,107 --> 00:21:26,023
Let terrorists be aware
that when the rules
446
00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:29,157
of international behavior
are violated,
447
00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:34,118
our policy will be one of swift
and effective retribution.
448
00:21:34,249 --> 00:21:36,860
Now it was
another thing altogether.
449
00:21:36,991 --> 00:21:41,125
We have used every effort
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00:21:41,256 --> 00:21:46,087
to see if we can locate
who has them, where they are,
451
00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:47,828
whether they're together
or separated.
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00:21:50,004 --> 00:21:52,354
For now,
this new hostage crisis
453
00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:54,791
was not receiving the same
level of public attention
454
00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:57,925
the 1979 crisis had,
455
00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:01,537
and that was convenient
for President Reagan.
456
00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:02,843
But it wouldn't last.
457
00:22:02,973 --> 00:22:05,280
It's been 311 days
458
00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:07,108
since an American
Presbyterian minister
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00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:10,024
was grabbed on the streets
of Beirut,
460
00:22:10,154 --> 00:22:13,070
one of four missing Americans
presumed to be in the hands
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00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:16,596
of extremist Shiite Muslims
in Lebanon.
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00:22:16,726 --> 00:22:19,990
As Carol Weir continued
to search for answers,
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00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:21,818
she relied on
the personal contacts
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00:22:21,949 --> 00:22:25,779
she had made during
her 30 years in Lebanon.
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00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:28,608
She knew people,
and she knew the players.
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00:22:28,738 --> 00:22:30,131
Though my mother
was not in tune
467
00:22:30,261 --> 00:22:31,828
to all the local
political details
468
00:22:31,959 --> 00:22:33,656
like my dad was,
469
00:22:33,787 --> 00:22:36,355
she certainly, you know,
was politically aware
470
00:22:36,485 --> 00:22:38,008
of some of the things
that were going on.
471
00:22:38,139 --> 00:22:39,967
And, you know, she started
trying to figure out
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00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:41,925
who had him,
what was going on,
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00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:43,884
what did they want,
what could she do
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00:22:44,014 --> 00:22:47,366
to accelerate the process
of getting my dad released.
475
00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:49,498
But Carol Weir's questions
to Washington
476
00:22:49,629 --> 00:22:51,152
were going unanswered.
477
00:22:51,282 --> 00:22:52,893
We met with Secretary
of State George Schultz--
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00:22:53,023 --> 00:22:54,895
my mother, myself,
479
00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:58,899
and a couple of the executives
of the program agency,
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00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:01,858
and we found that to be a very,
very frustrating meeting
481
00:23:01,989 --> 00:23:04,078
and that Secretary Shultz
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00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:07,081
really did not have
very much information.
483
00:23:07,211 --> 00:23:10,345
We had asked for a meeting
with the president.
484
00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:13,217
He said he would convey
that to the president.
485
00:23:13,348 --> 00:23:14,697
We were never given
an appointment
486
00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:16,046
with the president.
487
00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:17,570
We were told
he wouldn't have time.
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00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,006
It was just a very discouraging
489
00:23:19,136 --> 00:23:22,836
and rather disillusioning time
for me.
490
00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:24,707
When she finally
did hear something,
491
00:23:24,838 --> 00:23:26,535
she was assured
the U.S. government
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00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:28,885
was doing all they could.
493
00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:30,974
They were just
being quiet about it.
494
00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:34,021
It became described
as "quiet diplomacy."
495
00:23:34,151 --> 00:23:36,806
You know,
"You just need to be patient."
496
00:23:36,937 --> 00:23:39,896
To Reagan, quiet diplomacy
was working with our allies,
497
00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:41,376
working with the countries
498
00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:44,031
where we had
established relationships,
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00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:47,077
not necessarily holding summits
500
00:23:47,208 --> 00:23:49,210
or press conferences,
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00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:52,648
but coming up with some kind
of at least
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00:23:52,779 --> 00:23:55,869
a short-term or daily strategy
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00:23:55,999 --> 00:23:58,567
to try to get
the hostages freed.
504
00:23:58,698 --> 00:24:00,003
That was not an answer
505
00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:02,266
that my mother
was willing to accept.
506
00:24:02,397 --> 00:24:04,747
None of the American officials
were able or willing
507
00:24:04,878 --> 00:24:07,576
to give her
any significant information.
508
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:09,839
And it didn't seem, to her,
509
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,928
that they were
making any progress.
510
00:24:12,059 --> 00:24:13,669
So she was very frustrated.
511
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,237
Carol Weir decided then
512
00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:18,631
to take matters
into her own hands.
513
00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:19,849
It's been more
than ten months
514
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:21,242
since the Reverend
Benjamin Weir
515
00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:23,026
was kidnapped outside
his apartment
516
00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:25,115
by terrorists in Beirut.
517
00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:26,682
- Good morning, Mrs. Weir.
- Good morning.
518
00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:28,379
Do you think the government
519
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:32,253
has been doing all it can
to gain his release?
520
00:24:32,383 --> 00:24:35,169
Well, I think the government
has been at work,
521
00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:40,130
but I think a special effort
needs to be made now,
522
00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:43,656
and that's what I'd like
to see happen.
523
00:24:43,786 --> 00:24:45,222
Weir began
what was essentially
524
00:24:45,353 --> 00:24:47,094
a cross-country press tour.
525
00:24:47,224 --> 00:24:49,966
This has been
nearly 11 months
526
00:24:50,097 --> 00:24:53,753
since my husband,
the Reverend Benjamin Weir,
527
00:24:53,883 --> 00:24:56,973
was kidnapped
in Beirut, Lebanon.
528
00:24:57,104 --> 00:24:59,846
She gave speeches at churches,
on TV shows
529
00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:01,282
to anyone who would listen.
530
00:25:01,412 --> 00:25:04,328
I'm convinced
that the administration
531
00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:07,984
is not doing enough
to get my husband released.
532
00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:10,465
I would like
the United States government
533
00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:13,512
to open all channels
of communication.
534
00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,689
He was kidnapped not because
of any relationship
535
00:25:16,819 --> 00:25:19,996
we have had with the Lebanese,
536
00:25:20,127 --> 00:25:23,870
but he was kidnapped
because he is an American.
537
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,176
And once they had
the attention of the media,
538
00:25:26,307 --> 00:25:28,788
the Weirs renewed
their lobbying efforts.
539
00:25:28,918 --> 00:25:31,965
I am asking
the administration
540
00:25:32,095 --> 00:25:35,185
to give a higher priority
to this matter.
541
00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:37,927
And I need your help too.
542
00:25:38,058 --> 00:25:41,322
I urge you to write
to the president
543
00:25:41,452 --> 00:25:44,368
seeking his personal
intervention
544
00:25:44,499 --> 00:25:46,501
for the release of Ben
545
00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,504
and the other hostages
being held.
546
00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:51,375
We were constantly
trying to come up
547
00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:53,508
with a way
of delivering the message
548
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,554
that this had gone on
long enough.
549
00:25:55,684 --> 00:25:58,034
Part of it was just keeping it
in the public eye,
550
00:25:58,165 --> 00:26:01,124
reminding the White House
that we were there,
551
00:26:01,255 --> 00:26:03,257
hoping that somebody
would be able
552
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,824
to come up with an answer.
553
00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,782
- Mrs. Weir, good luck.
- Thank you.
554
00:26:06,913 --> 00:26:08,001
We're--we're all with you.
555
00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:12,222
Finally, the Weirs got
in direct contact
556
00:26:12,353 --> 00:26:13,397
with the president.
557
00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:18,315
Nope. Not that one.
558
00:26:18,446 --> 00:26:22,711
We asked for a meeting
with Jimmy Carter
559
00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:24,539
and put out some feelers,
560
00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:26,628
and some people responded
that they could set it up.
561
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:34,244
So we flew to the airport
in Atlanta,
562
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:38,248
and Jimmy Carter met us
in a lounge at the airport.
563
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:40,947
That the Weirs wanted to meet
with former President Carter
564
00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:42,426
may come as a surprise.
565
00:26:42,557 --> 00:26:44,341
Then again,
he did have experience
566
00:26:44,472 --> 00:26:46,343
navigating a hostage crisis.
567
00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:49,085
And he was a very humble guy,
very modest.
568
00:26:49,216 --> 00:26:50,957
He said, "You know,
569
00:26:51,087 --> 00:26:53,742
I'm not really sure
you're gonna want my advice."
570
00:26:53,873 --> 00:26:55,483
And we said,
571
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,833
"No, you know, we really
want to hear from you.
572
00:26:57,964 --> 00:26:59,530
"You know, what can we do?
573
00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:01,228
What aren't we doing
that we should be doing?"
574
00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:06,276
He said, "You know,
Bud McFarlane works
575
00:27:06,407 --> 00:27:07,887
"in the current
administration,
576
00:27:08,017 --> 00:27:10,280
"in the National
Security Council.
577
00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:13,849
And Bud is a good guy."
578
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:16,112
And here we should step back
to introduce
579
00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:19,028
one of the key players
in the Iran-Contra scandal:
580
00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:23,076
Robert "Bud" McFarlane,
581
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:27,080
who became Reagan's National
Security Adviser in 1983.
582
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,124
Mr. President,
there's several things
583
00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:29,822
this morning on the agenda.
584
00:27:29,952 --> 00:27:31,301
For McFarlane,
585
00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:33,477
the job of National
Security Adviser
586
00:27:33,608 --> 00:27:36,089
was a logical step
in a distinguished career
587
00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:38,221
that included two tours
in Vietnam
588
00:27:38,352 --> 00:27:40,180
and stints as an aide
589
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,357
for some of the top
political minds of his era.
590
00:27:43,487 --> 00:27:46,316
I had worked for Henry
Kissinger for four years.
591
00:27:46,447 --> 00:27:50,146
Was on the staff of the Senate
Armed Services Committee.
592
00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:52,235
Henry was and remains
593
00:27:52,366 --> 00:27:56,152
a profoundly important
influence in my life
594
00:27:56,283 --> 00:28:00,156
in shaping how I go about
defining a problem.
595
00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:03,333
As an assistant
to Henry Kissinger in 1971,
596
00:28:03,464 --> 00:28:06,119
McFarlane witnessed Kissinger's
landmark achievement
597
00:28:06,249 --> 00:28:08,077
of opening relations
with China.
598
00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:09,905
And ever since,
he had aspired
599
00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,386
to a foreign policy trophy
of his own.
600
00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:15,389
He had a framework
within his mind,
601
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,132
which I admired and generally
adopted for my own behavior
602
00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:24,224
in analyzing
a given set of problems.
603
00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:26,356
My first impressions
of Bud McFarlane
604
00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:30,578
was that he was a hard-nosed,
strategic thinker.
605
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,668
And I was extremely excited
about the prospect
606
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,627
of actually working
with someone who had studied
607
00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:38,064
and worked
with Henry Kissinger.
608
00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:43,025
Another member of
the National Security Council
609
00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:46,942
was Reagan's secretary
of state, George Schultz.
610
00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,770
And, as it turned out,
611
00:28:48,901 --> 00:28:51,425
Schultz had a different view
of the NSC than McFarlane.
612
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:19,061
As national security adviser,
Bud McFarlane had Reagan's ear.
613
00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:23,370
So the Weirs traveled to
Washington to meet with him.
614
00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:29,593
McFarlane's an extremely
deliberate speaker.
615
00:29:29,724 --> 00:29:31,421
Very thoughtful guy.
616
00:29:31,552 --> 00:29:34,076
Very calm.
617
00:29:34,207 --> 00:29:36,557
He said, "You know,
I understand what's going on.
618
00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:38,515
"We're working on this.
619
00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:40,387
"We're well aware
of what you guys are doing.
620
00:29:42,432 --> 00:29:44,347
"And you guys
should keep it up.
621
00:29:44,478 --> 00:29:46,436
"And I got a guy on my staff,
622
00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:49,396
"Lieutenant Colonel
Oliver North,
623
00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:51,398
"and he will be
your contact person.
624
00:29:51,528 --> 00:29:54,314
"And if you have any questions
or any issues,
625
00:29:54,444 --> 00:29:57,360
Colonel North will make
himself available to you."
626
00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,101
The Weirs were thankful
627
00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:01,712
to have a contact
in the White House.
628
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:04,454
But, initially, at least,
Oliver North didn't seem
629
00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:07,327
to deliver
any further breakthroughs.
630
00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:10,417
Colonel North would provide
information from time to time
631
00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:12,506
about trips he was taking.
632
00:30:12,636 --> 00:30:15,161
He wouldn't give any details,
but he would say,
633
00:30:15,291 --> 00:30:19,121
"Well, you know, I flew
in an F-14 to go to Europe
634
00:30:19,252 --> 00:30:22,081
for a quick meeting
that was really important."
635
00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:26,302
They never really gave us
any solid information.
636
00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:29,262
It was never really clear
to us what they were up to
637
00:30:29,392 --> 00:30:32,265
or what they were doing,
and when they thought
638
00:30:32,395 --> 00:30:34,833
the hostage situation
would be resolved.
639
00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:37,009
But we did feel like
we were finally talking
640
00:30:37,139 --> 00:30:38,749
to the right people.
641
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,969
The Weirs
were cautiously optimistic.
642
00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:45,495
But President Reagan's hostage
crisis was just beginning.
643
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:49,195
110 hostages, at least 85
644
00:30:49,325 --> 00:30:53,677
and possibly as many
as 102 of them Americans.
645
00:30:53,808 --> 00:30:54,809
Only a few feet
from the cockpit.
646
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,332
I can see Captain John
Testrake.
647
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,078
When TWA 847 was hijacked,
648
00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:06,255
that specific hostage situation
649
00:31:06,386 --> 00:31:09,302
became nearly all-consuming.
650
00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:14,873
There was very little
that happened
651
00:31:15,003 --> 00:31:16,613
where the president
didn't ask about hostages.
652
00:31:16,744 --> 00:31:18,572
They said that
they would shoot
653
00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:21,531
an American every five minutes
654
00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:24,360
if they did not get
their demands.
655
00:31:24,491 --> 00:31:26,493
The hijacking took
Reagan's hostage problem
656
00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:28,321
to a new level.
657
00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:30,540
The CBS movie will
begin immediately
658
00:31:30,671 --> 00:31:33,848
following the CBS News report
on today's hijacking.
659
00:31:33,979 --> 00:31:36,764
This hijacking
took TWA Flight 847
660
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,158
on a horror-filled odyssey
from almost one end
661
00:31:39,288 --> 00:31:40,637
of the Mediterranean
to the other.
662
00:31:40,768 --> 00:31:43,466
TWA Flight 847 lifts off
663
00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:45,991
from Athens, Greece
bound for Rome.
664
00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:48,558
Two men who were
sitting in the rearmost seats
665
00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:52,084
of the aircraft got up and ran
to the front of the plane.
666
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:57,611
20 minutes into a routine flight
from Athens to Rome,
667
00:31:57,741 --> 00:32:01,354
two Shia militants
took control of Flight 847
668
00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:06,533
and the 145 passengers aboard,
most of them Americans.
669
00:32:06,663 --> 00:32:08,839
They went into the cockpit.
670
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:12,234
One of them re-emerged
with a--with a gun.
671
00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:15,237
The TWA hijackers
eventually redirected
672
00:32:15,368 --> 00:32:17,718
the flight to
Beirut International Airport.
673
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:36,171
Pleads from the plane
crew became more urgent.
674
00:32:36,302 --> 00:32:38,739
He wants to fuel now.
675
00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:41,220
Immediately.
Five minutes, at the most,
676
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:42,873
or he's going
to kill passengers.
677
00:32:43,004 --> 00:32:45,267
We are doing our best.
678
00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:46,877
The hijackers
collected passports
679
00:32:47,008 --> 00:32:49,532
and began
separating passengers.
680
00:32:49,663 --> 00:32:51,099
Those with
Jewish-sounding names
681
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:52,318
were moved to the front.
682
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:56,713
Three members of the U.S.
military were identified,
683
00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:59,978
putting their lives in danger.
684
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:03,633
Among them was a U.S. navy
diver named Robert Stethem.
685
00:33:03,764 --> 00:33:05,548
Fuel was not all
they wanted.
686
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:07,942
The hijackers demanded that
all Lebanese Shiite Muslims
687
00:33:08,073 --> 00:33:10,858
held by Israel be released
to the Red Cross.
688
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,730
There are some 700
in Israeli prisons.
689
00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:15,602
After some negotiation,
690
00:33:15,732 --> 00:33:17,734
the plane was refueled
in exchange for the release
691
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:19,780
of 17 women and two children.
692
00:33:19,910 --> 00:33:23,218
I hope everybody back home
will pray for us.
693
00:33:23,349 --> 00:33:25,394
But even with their release,
694
00:33:25,525 --> 00:33:28,571
the situation on the plane
continued to deteriorate.
695
00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:32,010
That afternoon, the plane
is forced to fly to Algiers,
696
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:35,013
the first of two very
long round-trip journeys
697
00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:37,667
the terrorists will make
in a day and a half.
698
00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:39,321
We have been flying
all day long.
699
00:33:49,723 --> 00:33:51,768
The pilot told the
control tower the hijackers
700
00:33:51,899 --> 00:33:53,379
were now threatening
to throw one of the Americans
701
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:54,684
out of the plane.
702
00:33:54,815 --> 00:33:56,599
The runway was cleared
and lit.
703
00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:59,298
The plane landed with only
a few minutes fuel remaining.
704
00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:02,388
The White House
had been monitoring
705
00:34:02,518 --> 00:34:04,738
the situation closely.
706
00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:06,696
But before President Reagan
could deliver
707
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:08,394
an official address
on the hijacking,
708
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:10,048
tragedy struck.
709
00:34:24,018 --> 00:34:26,629
Robert Stethem
was brought to the tarmac
710
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,501
and shot in the temple.
711
00:34:31,678 --> 00:34:34,550
Reagan couldn't stay silent
any longer.
712
00:34:34,681 --> 00:34:37,510
His murder and the fate
of the other American hostages
713
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,602
still being held in Beirut
underscore an inescapable fact:
714
00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:45,866
the United States is tonight
a nation being attacked
715
00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:48,434
by international terrorists
and want--
716
00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:50,479
and who wantonly kill
717
00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:53,874
and who seize our innocent
citizens as their prisoners.
718
00:34:54,004 --> 00:34:56,355
Two days
after Stethem's murder,
719
00:34:56,485 --> 00:34:58,400
Reagan called
an emergency meeting
720
00:34:58,531 --> 00:35:00,794
of the National
Security Council.
721
00:35:00,924 --> 00:35:04,928
He began by unfolding a letter
and reading it out loud.
722
00:35:05,059 --> 00:35:07,714
The letter, written by 29
of the American hostages
723
00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:09,672
on Flight 847,
724
00:35:09,803 --> 00:35:12,588
was addressed directly
to Reagan.
725
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,462
This letter from the TWA
hostages was very painful.
726
00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:22,294
It was clear
that the president was in pain.
727
00:35:22,424 --> 00:35:24,122
In the letter,
728
00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:26,733
the hostages made a desperate
plea for the president
729
00:35:26,863 --> 00:35:30,084
to negotiate their release,
to convince the Israelis
730
00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:31,999
to free the 700
Lebanese prisoners
731
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,436
the hijackers had demanded.
732
00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:36,351
When the president
finished reading,
733
00:35:36,482 --> 00:35:37,787
he looked around at his aides
734
00:35:37,918 --> 00:35:39,789
and asked them
what could be done.
735
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,617
But then you have to say,
736
00:35:41,748 --> 00:35:43,880
"We're gonna do everything
we can to get you out,
737
00:35:44,011 --> 00:35:47,797
"but we're not going to change
"our principles or our morality
738
00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:49,930
"or the things we believe in
just to save you.
739
00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:55,022
We're not gonna compromise."
740
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:58,808
The risk was that we would
be seen as a country
741
00:35:58,939 --> 00:36:01,376
that would pay money
for hostages,
742
00:36:01,507 --> 00:36:03,987
and that put everybody
at risk.
743
00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:07,687
So it was very important
to bring an end to that idea.
744
00:36:07,817 --> 00:36:10,516
With the pushback from Reagan's
secretary of state
745
00:36:10,646 --> 00:36:12,561
and the rest of his
National Security Council,
746
00:36:12,692 --> 00:36:13,910
the conversation stalled.
747
00:36:16,783 --> 00:36:19,133
But Reagan kept thinking
about the letter.
748
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:22,397
The humanity was visible
to everyone.
749
00:36:22,528 --> 00:36:24,443
Everyone was moved.
750
00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:26,532
And I'm sure
it actually hardened
751
00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:28,577
the president's determination
752
00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:31,014
to bring about
a peaceful solution.
753
00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:33,147
Reagan's sense was,
754
00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:35,454
"This is something
that I can really
755
00:36:35,584 --> 00:36:38,370
"make an impact on
as President.
756
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:39,980
"It's my job--
757
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:41,851
it's my responsibility
to get them back."
758
00:36:44,027 --> 00:36:47,074
Facts are hard to come by,
difficult to confirm.
759
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:50,556
As sure as anything can be
in the hurly-burly and horror
760
00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:52,471
of a murderous hijacking...
761
00:36:52,601 --> 00:36:55,822
You now had global coverage.
762
00:36:55,952 --> 00:36:59,434
We know what the power
of television still is,
763
00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:01,262
and it was very powerful then.
764
00:37:01,393 --> 00:37:04,570
And no one understood that
better than Ronald Reagan.
765
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:06,702
In Beirut, five of
the Americans held hostage
766
00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:08,661
were put on display
by terrorists holding them,
767
00:37:08,791 --> 00:37:10,053
paraded into a room
and surrounded
768
00:37:10,184 --> 00:37:12,360
by about 100 teenagers
with machine guns.
769
00:37:12,491 --> 00:37:13,883
Sit down, sit down!
770
00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:16,059
When they were having
their first conference,
771
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:18,540
it really scared us,
really scared us.
772
00:37:18,671 --> 00:37:20,281
There had never been
anything like it.
773
00:37:20,412 --> 00:37:23,066
It was a worldwide first:
competitive journalists
774
00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:25,678
interviewing captors
with captives.
775
00:37:25,808 --> 00:37:28,289
We, as a group do
most importantly want
776
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:32,598
to beseech President Reagan
and our fellow Americans
777
00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:37,037
to refrain from any form
of military or violent means
778
00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:40,083
as an attempt,
no matter how noble or heroic,
779
00:37:40,214 --> 00:37:41,911
to secure our freedom.
780
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:45,524
I miss my wife very much.
I want to go home.
781
00:37:45,654 --> 00:37:47,743
And God willing,
we'll be home soon.
782
00:37:47,874 --> 00:37:49,789
Critics call
the coverage excessive
783
00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:52,618
and accuse journalists
of interfering in a crisis,
784
00:37:52,748 --> 00:37:56,099
of turning from observers
to negotiators.
785
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:59,015
There were a lot of ethical
concerns at the time.
786
00:37:59,146 --> 00:38:02,758
I always felt that we had
the responsibility
787
00:38:02,889 --> 00:38:05,892
to keep people apprised
of what was happening.
788
00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:07,894
The families needed to know.
789
00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:10,505
The American government
needed to know.
790
00:38:10,636 --> 00:38:14,248
But we were also giving
a free platform
791
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:17,773
to these groups
that were using us.
792
00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:19,862
The terrorists
in the TWA crisis
793
00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:22,125
received
immeasurable attention.
794
00:38:22,256 --> 00:38:23,997
But it was the way
they got it
795
00:38:24,127 --> 00:38:26,304
that has inflamed
the new debate over the role
796
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:27,653
and responsibility
of the news media.
797
00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:29,089
Here, you had a situation
798
00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:31,134
of human beings isolated
from their families,
799
00:38:31,265 --> 00:38:33,441
totally controlled by the--
by the thugs,
800
00:38:33,572 --> 00:38:35,225
knowing that men with AK-47s
801
00:38:35,356 --> 00:38:36,966
were prepared
to blow them away,
802
00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:38,141
knowing they were gonna
leave that room
803
00:38:38,272 --> 00:38:40,579
and go back into--into prison,
804
00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:42,232
and yet that press conference
805
00:38:42,363 --> 00:38:44,104
was dealt with as though
it was normal people
806
00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:45,975
talking to us
in a normal setting.
807
00:38:46,106 --> 00:38:48,108
That's crazy.
808
00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:51,111
We were kind of caught
in the middle.
809
00:38:51,241 --> 00:38:52,765
I remember reporting
810
00:38:52,895 --> 00:38:55,289
with a very uneasy
feeling at the time.
811
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,813
Yet, in a way,
we were held hostage,
812
00:38:57,944 --> 00:39:00,163
because it was a story
that could not be ignored.
813
00:39:05,952 --> 00:39:07,780
With the media storm growing,
814
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:09,782
Reagan became
further preoccupied
815
00:39:09,912 --> 00:39:13,002
with the task
of freeing the TWA hostages.
816
00:39:13,133 --> 00:39:16,179
Reagan met with his national
security team every morning.
817
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:20,009
At what point can you
pay off the terrorists
818
00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:22,708
without endangering people
from here on out
819
00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:23,970
once they find out
that their tactics succeed?
820
00:39:25,188 --> 00:39:27,887
That question always came up
821
00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:31,194
because he never wanted them
not to be focused on it,
822
00:39:31,325 --> 00:39:33,240
wanted it on the tops
of their minds
823
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,895
as it was on Reagan's--
824
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:39,986
and to find a way
to get them back.
825
00:39:47,863 --> 00:39:50,953
On July 1, after more than
two weeks in captivity...
826
00:39:54,174 --> 00:39:57,046
...the TWA hostages
were finally released.
827
00:40:00,006 --> 00:40:01,877
And three days later,
828
00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:06,708
the Israeli government
freed 300 Lebanese prisoners.
829
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,885
The U.S. denied any connection
to the release,
830
00:40:10,016 --> 00:40:12,714
and Israel claimed the timing
was just a coincidence.
831
00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:16,414
There's only one thing to say,
832
00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:18,372
and I say it from
the bottom of my heart,
833
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:20,896
in the name of all the people
of our country:
834
00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:23,116
welcome home.
835
00:40:29,775 --> 00:40:31,907
The release of the TWA hostages
836
00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:35,302
should have brought
a measure of relief for Reagan.
837
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:37,783
But there were still seven
American hostages in Beirut
838
00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:40,089
who needed his help.
839
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:42,178
We can be thankful
that our faith, courage,
840
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:44,398
and firmness have paid off.
841
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:47,270
But this is no moment
for celebration.
842
00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:50,143
Let it be clearly understood
that the seven Americans
843
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:53,755
still held captive in Lebanon
must be released
844
00:40:53,886 --> 00:40:56,845
along with other innocent
hostages from other countries.
845
00:40:58,107 --> 00:41:02,938
In the emotionally fraught days
after the TWA crisis,
846
00:41:03,069 --> 00:41:06,115
Bud McFarlane took a meeting
with a trusted associate
847
00:41:06,246 --> 00:41:08,727
who seemed to offer a way
to help the Beirut hostages.
848
00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:13,906
An Israeli diplomat
named David Kimche.
849
00:41:14,036 --> 00:41:15,995
David Kimche was
850
00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,171
the director-general
of Israel's Foreign Ministry.
851
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:23,698
I think that this is a test
of the sincere attitude
852
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:26,832
of our neighboring countries
to terrorism.
853
00:41:26,962 --> 00:41:29,399
They had their relationship
going back several years.
854
00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:31,314
They knew each other
quite well.
855
00:41:31,445 --> 00:41:34,796
And they regularly met
and talked about the world.
856
00:41:34,927 --> 00:41:36,276
So this was another
one of those meetings.
857
00:41:36,406 --> 00:41:38,278
But at this meeting,
858
00:41:38,408 --> 00:41:41,673
Kimche came up
with a particular suggestion.
859
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:46,852
Out of respect for David
and his wisdom,
860
00:41:46,982 --> 00:41:50,116
I listened to what he said,
and it was simply stated
861
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:53,380
that there are elements
in the Iranian Army
862
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,209
that are prepared to open
a dialogue with us.
863
00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:03,216
Kimche was offering
a back channel to Iran
864
00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:07,437
that could help de-escalate
the hostage crisis.
865
00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:11,006
Given the relationship between
the U.S. and Iran at the time,
866
00:42:11,137 --> 00:42:14,575
the possibility of such
a back channel was astonishing.
867
00:42:14,706 --> 00:42:17,186
But there was no one happier
to entertain the idea
868
00:42:17,317 --> 00:42:20,015
than Bud McFarlane.
869
00:42:20,146 --> 00:42:22,540
McFarlane had long believed
it was possible
870
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:25,281
that there were moderates
within the Iranian government
871
00:42:25,412 --> 00:42:27,675
who would be receptive
to a diplomatic relationship
872
00:42:27,806 --> 00:42:29,242
with the United States.
873
00:42:29,372 --> 00:42:31,374
I really didn't imagine
874
00:42:31,505 --> 00:42:34,029
that we had
a plausible prospect
875
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,380
of being able to engage
with this government.
876
00:42:37,511 --> 00:42:40,209
I did think, however,
that there were reasons
877
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:44,562
why the circumstances
facing Iran
878
00:42:44,692 --> 00:42:49,305
might give us an opportunity
to influence a regime change.
879
00:42:49,436 --> 00:42:52,178
It was essentially
just a hunch,
880
00:42:52,308 --> 00:42:54,310
but it was guided
by the same strategic thinking
881
00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:55,877
that he had learned
from his mentor,
882
00:42:56,008 --> 00:42:56,965
Henry Kissinger.
883
00:42:58,358 --> 00:43:00,273
But there was a catch.
884
00:43:02,536 --> 00:43:05,844
David's opinion was that
885
00:43:05,974 --> 00:43:08,020
the people that
his intermediary
886
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:10,544
was dealing with
in the Iranian Army
887
00:43:10,675 --> 00:43:17,029
were people who had the military
and political wit,
888
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:20,423
and for them to engage
with us at all,
889
00:43:20,554 --> 00:43:23,296
being at risk
and us being at risk,
890
00:43:23,426 --> 00:43:25,385
each would have
to show evidence
891
00:43:25,515 --> 00:43:27,953
to their own constituencies.
892
00:43:28,083 --> 00:43:31,130
Iran wanted the U.S.
to supply them with weapons
893
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:34,176
for use in their war with Iraq.
894
00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:35,743
It was a big request.
895
00:43:38,441 --> 00:43:41,967
But the Iranians were offering
something valuable in return,
896
00:43:42,097 --> 00:43:44,317
something that Reagan
was desperate for.
897
00:43:44,447 --> 00:43:47,320
As long as those people
are there and threatened,
898
00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:50,192
we cannot give up on them.
899
00:43:50,323 --> 00:43:53,152
And I hope that they have
confidence in that.
900
00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,067
Kimche was saying
901
00:43:55,197 --> 00:43:58,853
Iran could help free
the hostages in Beirut.
902
00:43:58,984 --> 00:44:01,203
He proposed a meeting
between McFarlane
903
00:44:01,334 --> 00:44:03,075
and an Iranian intermediary
904
00:44:03,205 --> 00:44:05,512
who could move
the conversation forward.
905
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:11,387
Kimche presented it
as their being able to achieve
906
00:44:11,518 --> 00:44:14,042
the release of the hostages.
907
00:44:16,610 --> 00:44:20,396
And while his name
may be unfamiliar to most,
908
00:44:20,527 --> 00:44:24,009
he is an essential character
in the Iran-Contra story.
909
00:44:24,139 --> 00:44:25,924
So, where should we resume?
910
00:44:26,054 --> 00:44:27,012
We want to talk
about Ghorbanifar.
911
00:44:29,405 --> 00:44:31,494
The Iranian intermediary
912
00:44:31,625 --> 00:44:35,324
for the Iran initiative,
as we called it,
913
00:44:35,455 --> 00:44:39,024
was a man named
Manucher Ghorbanifar.
914
00:44:39,154 --> 00:44:41,853
He was a short, overweight,
915
00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:45,465
balding, bearded guy
916
00:44:45,595 --> 00:44:46,945
who you certainly
wouldn't have taken
917
00:44:47,075 --> 00:44:49,556
for an international
arms dealer.
918
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:52,124
But that's what he was.
919
00:44:52,254 --> 00:44:54,953
Ghorbanifar played
this pivotal role,
920
00:44:55,083 --> 00:44:57,390
sort of a classic
rug merchant role--
921
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,393
try to bring
the sides together.
922
00:45:00,523 --> 00:45:04,223
He had a relationship
with the Israeli government,
923
00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:06,399
and he convinced them
924
00:45:06,529 --> 00:45:09,489
that there were
elements in Iran
925
00:45:09,619 --> 00:45:12,405
that were now becoming
more pragmatic,
926
00:45:12,535 --> 00:45:15,321
who wanted to talk.
927
00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:17,845
And after a few weeks
of discussion,
928
00:45:17,976 --> 00:45:20,021
a proposal was made:
929
00:45:20,152 --> 00:45:22,154
100 American missiles
would be traded
930
00:45:22,284 --> 00:45:24,199
for all seven
American hostages.
931
00:45:25,548 --> 00:45:27,159
It was straightforward,
932
00:45:27,289 --> 00:45:29,248
but presented
some major risks.
933
00:45:29,378 --> 00:45:32,120
There was only
an acceptable risk
934
00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:34,035
if you had
very high confidence
935
00:45:34,166 --> 00:45:39,084
in the good faith
of the Iranian counterparts.
936
00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:41,739
And I didn't know any of them.
937
00:45:41,869 --> 00:45:45,090
Even though McFarlane
didn't know Ghorbanifar,
938
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:47,353
his reputation preceded him.
939
00:45:47,483 --> 00:45:49,616
We called him Gorba,
940
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:52,619
and that was the polite name
we had for him.
941
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:55,578
He was a prevaricator, liar,
942
00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:59,539
thief of the first magnitude,
943
00:45:59,669 --> 00:46:01,628
well-known
for these attributes
944
00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:04,370
amongst various agencies.
945
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,634
Ghorbanifar was well-known
to the CIA.
946
00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:10,028
And although the CIA concluded
he was a fabricator,
947
00:46:10,158 --> 00:46:12,247
many countries,
including Israel,
948
00:46:12,378 --> 00:46:14,380
continued to deal with him.
949
00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:17,339
They wanted
to re-establish diplomatic,
950
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:20,473
government-to-government
relations with Iran.
951
00:46:20,603 --> 00:46:23,519
And oh, by the way,
we get the hostages out too.
952
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:27,219
It was a noble idea, I guess.
953
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:30,265
But they picked
the wrong communicator
954
00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:31,789
in this guy Gorba.
955
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,531
McFarlane was also troubled
956
00:46:35,662 --> 00:46:39,231
by the terms of the deal,
specifically the weapons.
957
00:46:39,361 --> 00:46:41,668
After the 1979
hostage crisis...
958
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:43,017
Americans held
hostage. Pictures of their--
959
00:46:43,148 --> 00:46:44,671
...there was
an international effort
960
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:48,283
to stop weapons sales to Iran.
961
00:46:48,414 --> 00:46:51,156
The United States had promoted
and upheld the policy.
962
00:46:51,286 --> 00:46:53,549
If the rules of international
behavior are violated...
963
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,421
If it leaked out that they
964
00:46:55,551 --> 00:46:57,466
were secretly
selling weapons to Iran,
965
00:46:57,597 --> 00:47:00,513
it would be
a diplomatic disaster.
966
00:47:00,643 --> 00:47:04,865
So there was a lot
for McFarlane to look past.
967
00:47:04,996 --> 00:47:07,346
But he decided to bring
the proposal to the president.
968
00:47:09,348 --> 00:47:10,523
There was
an unexpected development
969
00:47:10,653 --> 00:47:12,568
for President Reagan today
970
00:47:12,699 --> 00:47:16,572
during an operation to remove
a small polyp from his colon.
971
00:47:16,703 --> 00:47:20,098
Doctors discovered a second
larger growth on his intestine.
972
00:47:20,228 --> 00:47:22,361
That will require
major surgery.
973
00:47:22,491 --> 00:47:24,450
Around the time of McFarlane
974
00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:26,452
and Ghorbanifar's
conversations,
975
00:47:26,582 --> 00:47:29,498
President Reagan
underwent surgery.
976
00:47:29,629 --> 00:47:31,239
The hostages were
one of the first things
977
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:32,414
he asked about
when he woke up.
978
00:47:32,545 --> 00:47:34,112
How you feeling?
979
00:47:36,854 --> 00:47:38,681
And so it was at the hospital
980
00:47:38,812 --> 00:47:41,684
that McFarlane spoke with Reagan
for the first time
981
00:47:41,815 --> 00:47:45,906
about the idea of trading arms
for hostages with Iran.
982
00:47:46,037 --> 00:47:50,258
I gave him the factual summary
of what Kimche had said--
983
00:47:50,389 --> 00:47:52,652
that he, Kimche,
had concluded
984
00:47:52,782 --> 00:47:56,351
that there were
disaffected officers,
985
00:47:56,482 --> 00:48:00,486
portrayed them as being open
to working with us.
986
00:48:01,617 --> 00:48:04,403
McFarlane told Reagan
that the Iranian moderates
987
00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:06,709
were willing to pressure
their associates in Beirut
988
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,407
to release
the American hostages
989
00:48:08,537 --> 00:48:11,845
still being held in Lebanon.
990
00:48:11,976 --> 00:48:17,459
And he brightened immediately
and said,
991
00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:22,247
"We really ought to keep
the dialogue going."
992
00:48:22,377 --> 00:48:25,554
I said, "This is a very
high-risk venture for you,
993
00:48:25,685 --> 00:48:28,949
"politically--
that it's very uncertain
994
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,693
"that this can be maintained
in clandestine terms."
995
00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:37,305
But he focused
upon what Kimche had said.
996
00:48:37,436 --> 00:48:39,481
"But we can't let
an opportunity
997
00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,397
of that--though
it's risky--go by."
998
00:48:44,182 --> 00:48:45,792
It might be surprising
999
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:48,795
that Reagan was willing
to accept the idea so quickly.
1000
00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:51,798
Negotiating with terrorists,
after all, would violate
1001
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:55,845
one of the core principles
of Reagan's presidency.
1002
00:48:55,976 --> 00:48:58,457
Working on the Middle East
and terrorism
1003
00:48:58,587 --> 00:49:02,548
was a constant struggle
of reconciling contradictions.
1004
00:49:02,678 --> 00:49:06,334
It was important for us
to have a clear policy
1005
00:49:06,465 --> 00:49:08,597
that we do not negotiate
with terrorists.
1006
00:49:08,728 --> 00:49:10,773
Having said that,
1007
00:49:10,904 --> 00:49:15,648
sometimes realists
have to break principles
1008
00:49:15,778 --> 00:49:20,000
and do what is necessary
to try to achieve a goal.
1009
00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:22,872
Almost from the outset,
the administration was divided
1010
00:49:23,003 --> 00:49:25,179
on the viability
of the proposal.
1011
00:49:25,310 --> 00:49:29,444
McFarlane had tried
to push this idea earlier
1012
00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:32,273
and had gotten laughed
out of town, basically.
1013
00:49:32,404 --> 00:49:34,319
Caspar Weinberger,
the secretary of defense,
1014
00:49:34,449 --> 00:49:35,885
said something like,
1015
00:49:36,016 --> 00:49:38,714
"This is almost too absurd
to comment on.
1016
00:49:38,845 --> 00:49:41,456
"It would be like inviting
Gaddafi of Libya
1017
00:49:41,587 --> 00:49:43,937
for a cozy chat."
1018
00:49:44,068 --> 00:49:47,767
So McFarlane was shut down,
but he didn't give up.
1019
00:49:47,897 --> 00:49:49,812
George Schultz was
indifferent about it.
1020
00:49:49,943 --> 00:49:52,641
Thought that it had merit,
but was uneasy.
1021
00:49:52,772 --> 00:49:55,253
Weinberger was totally
opposed to it.
1022
00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:57,342
In the end,
it was Reagan who said,
1023
00:49:57,472 --> 00:50:01,476
"Just do it. Let's go.
It has to be done now."
1024
00:50:01,607 --> 00:50:04,305
Bud had his marching orders,
and he did not relent.
1025
00:50:04,436 --> 00:50:07,221
He didn't hold back,
and it went forward.
1026
00:50:07,352 --> 00:50:08,875
So how was the United States
1027
00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:11,225
going to sell a cache
of missiles to Iran
1028
00:50:11,356 --> 00:50:13,314
without anyone knowing?
1029
00:50:13,445 --> 00:50:16,796
We didn't want to use
any American military aircraft,
1030
00:50:16,926 --> 00:50:21,801
so the Israelis became
the sort of logistical center,
1031
00:50:21,931 --> 00:50:26,545
in part due to geography,
but also because Ghorbanifar,
1032
00:50:26,675 --> 00:50:30,288
the Iranian middleman,
had approached the Israelis.
1033
00:50:30,418 --> 00:50:32,377
And the Israelis
were very cooperative.
1034
00:50:32,507 --> 00:50:33,682
And so it was decided.
1035
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,731
American-owned weapons
would pass through Israel,
1036
00:50:38,861 --> 00:50:41,168
and Israel would make
the sale to Iran.
1037
00:50:42,909 --> 00:50:44,606
With the big picture
worked out,
1038
00:50:44,737 --> 00:50:46,869
McFarlane turned
the operation over
1039
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,306
to one of his
most trusted deputies--
1040
00:50:50,264 --> 00:50:51,700
Oliver North.
1041
00:50:53,876 --> 00:50:56,531
Terrorists, be on notice.
1042
00:50:56,662 --> 00:51:00,361
We will fight back against you
in Lebanon and elsewhere.
1043
00:51:00,492 --> 00:51:02,581
We will fight back
against your cowardly attacks
1044
00:51:02,711 --> 00:51:04,713
on American citizens
and property.
1045
00:51:04,844 --> 00:51:07,629
We will not rest
until justice is done
1046
00:51:09,936 --> 00:51:12,678
The Weir family and the families
of the other hostages
1047
00:51:12,808 --> 00:51:15,507
still remained largely
in the dark.
1048
00:51:15,637 --> 00:51:18,423
With the information they had,
all they could do was hope.
1049
00:51:20,468 --> 00:51:21,687
Well, I'm one
of the family members
1050
00:51:21,817 --> 00:51:23,602
that tries not to get excited,
1051
00:51:23,732 --> 00:51:25,517
because we ride quite
an emotional roller coaster,
1052
00:51:25,647 --> 00:51:28,476
going from the peaks, during
these rumors, to the valleys,
1053
00:51:28,607 --> 00:51:30,696
where you don't hear anything
for many months on end.
1054
00:51:30,826 --> 00:51:32,524
So I'm very hopeful.
1055
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:36,832
But I'm not going to change
any of my plans
1056
00:51:36,963 --> 00:51:39,226
until I'm certain it's true.
86053
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