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Hell of a night, so stand by.
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370, it's supposed to bea white Dodge Durango
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- or Caliber.
- ...over 100 miles an hour.
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We have helicoptersfollowing him,we have agents following him.
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- He's, uh, considered armedand dangerous. - And is it just
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- one person in the vehicle?
- There is,uh, two people.
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They seem to be going upto Stanfield Road
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in about one or two.
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I'll get you mile markersto that one again.
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Copy. They're coming upto Stanfield Road
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in about one or two.
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"Dear Mrs. Twiggs,
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as requiredby Marine Corps regulations,
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a line-of-duty investigationpertaining to the deathof your husband,
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Staff Sergeant Travis N. Twiggshas been completed."
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We're still east bound...
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"Per your request,I'm providing a copy
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of this investigation,along with my determination.
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If I may be of furtherassistance at any time
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or if there is anythingI or the command can offer
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in the way of supportor services,
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please do not hesitateto contact me.
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Sincerely, T. M. Murray,
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Marine CorpsWarfighting Laboratory,Quantico, Virginia."
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"Supplementary caseincident record,
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Grand Canyon National Park.
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At approximately 15:30,12 May, 2008,
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the Grand Canyon National ParksEmergency Dispatch Center
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receive reportsof a vehicle accident
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near Twin Overlookson East Rim Drive.
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There were two men in the cartrying to get out.
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Other men on the sceneattempted to help the menget their car off of the curb.
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The witnesses expressed that the men behaved very oddly
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because they didn't wantany help,
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and they speculatedthat the men were in shock.
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They said that the two mengot their backpacksout of the car
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and started putting them on.
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The witnesses assumedthis must have meant
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they were hikinginto the canyon,
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as the backpack they sawwas large, with a back brace."
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When you watch all these movies,
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like these movies
with knights and battles and wars,
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Travis was that guy,
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like that star character
who was just the badass
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who was gonna go in,
kick everybody's ass, take no names.
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That was him.
If he said they we're going...
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"We're going to hell, we're all
going to die, but we're going to put up a fight,"
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you'd be like, "All right,
let's go. I'm right behind you."
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You know? "I'm right--
Wherever you go, I'm following.
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If you say we're going,
I'm there. I don't care if I'm coming back or not."
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He was a Marine's marine.
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If you just looked at the way
he carried himself, how he acted,
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how he presented himself
to other people,
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you picture that's
what a marine is like.
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A true, uh, a true grunt.
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You know what a,
what a grunt is.
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So not just a marine,
but a grunt.
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Staff Sergeant Twiggs, his call sign was "War Pig,"
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War Pig Twiggs,
and when you're talking,
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telling stories
about Staff Sergeant Twiggs, the other marines were like,
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"The War Pig did this,
the War Pig did that."
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He had tattoos on his arms,
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and it was like his arms
were scraped away and he was bleeding.
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And inside was cammies.
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But that really,
that was the guy. Like, he played green.
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You know, hard cussing,
shit talking.
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Just straight-up marine,
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The first time
that I met Travis,
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there was this old
crusty-looking, gnarly, just sergeant
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sitting across the table
from me,
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and he had this raspy voice,
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like he had
chronic laryngitis almost.
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I wish you knew how he talked.
I wish I could do an impersonation of him.
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I don't-- I can't.
There's no impersonating that voice.
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You know...
Guy that he always was. I mean, that's how he was.
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hey was just like,
"Hey, what are you doing?"
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But it was fun.
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Hey, Sergeant Twiggs!
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What you drinking?
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Right here! Right here!
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- Hey, have a Coke and smile.
- Right here!
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Listen here, Bobby.
It's not the time
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to be asking me
those kind of questions.
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There's all kinds
of people here. You know what I'm saying?
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- Roger.
- I've got to go shit now
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and I'll be back
in about 20 minutes.
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♪ Chase her in paradise ♪
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♪ Paradise! ♪
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Travis had... an addictive personality.
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His addiction
was the Marine Corps.
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Travis seemed to be
one of those guys who brought his marines home with him.
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It never... He never left
the Marine Corps behind.
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He'd let some of them
stay at the house.
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They'd be at the house
on the weekends.
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They'd come and have dinner
with him.
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It was just...
those marines were his kids,
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and he took care of them
just like they were part of his family.
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Come on in. Come on in.
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Who is this?
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That's Lisbon.
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- Hi, Lisbon!
- Hey...
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- Call him The Wizard.
- The Wizard.
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Merry Christmas, man.
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This is everyone chowing down.
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The guys loved just coming over into the chaos of our house.
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We didn't have America yet,
we had Ireland.
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But all of them
were considered uncles to Ireland.
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Me and Travis
were kind of like, um,
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the psychiatrists of the...
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...of the group, because they
would come and tell us, you know,
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good things, bad things,
things they worried about. Just their life, you know?
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And it was really nice
that they trusted us and believed in us enough
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that they could tell
stuff like that.
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And it was o--
you know, it was okay.
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Any problem you ever had,
you could go talk to him. You know?
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He said, "You know,
it doesn't matter what time of day it is,
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you knock on my door,
you call me, I'll answer it.
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I'll come see you,
you can come over.
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Whatever you got to do
and we'll talk."
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Aloha!
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He was definitely a different kind of staff sergeant.
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He, um... He was not afraid
to be your friend.
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He was all about
having everybody together.
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He liked to get, he liked to get
the platoon together.
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You know, always,
there's, you know...
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The staff sergeant had
a friend here. "This is sergeant or corporal."
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But chances are,
they've known each other for a while.
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You know, Staff Sergeant Twiggs,
he was close with everybody.
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He did four tours in Iraq.
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I think the second one,
he was part of the protection of the US Embassy.
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His next tour, he was stationed
in Anbar province, near Fallujah,
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in this town of Saqlawiyah.
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His unit was based
in an old Ba'ath Party hotel,
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long abandoned,
no running water,
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so they were really camping out.
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It was rough. I mean, it was a shit hole place.
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It had sand-- sandbags
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and the HESCO barriers
was what we had for barriers
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and some makeshift towers
that we stood guard in.
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Um, there was a,
a little dirt road. It was just... It wasn't much.
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The town was little.
There were some shady people in that town, that's for sure.
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Encountered a lot of IEDs,
a lot of, uh, mortar impacts.
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Uh, I remember
right when we got there,
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right when my, uh,
my platoon got there, we took incoming.
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But, uh, from then on,
it was-- that's how
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that pretty much set the pace
for the deployment.
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One key part of the arrangements,
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as it turned out,
was they set up out houses in a courtyard outside
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rather than, you know,
back in the bowels, so to speak, of this building.
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Travis apparently thought
this was not a good idea. It was not safe.
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They were taking regular,
um, rocket and mortar fire.
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And Travis had begged
his unit commanders
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to put the porta-johns
inside the solid structure that they were staying in.
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He goes, "I don't give a fuck
what it smells like!
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Who cares about the smell?
It's a hardened, protected area,
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where these, you know,
marines can use the facilities
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and not have to worry
about being attacked.
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I'm the bad guy
looking at a compound, a hardened compound,
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and then there's
this strange target out in the middle of nowhere,
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and I see people going
in and out of it all day long, I'm gonna target it.
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That's the first thing
I would attack." And they did.
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Those were, you know,
the first two marines in our company,
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We'd had other members
in the battalion who had gotten killed,
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but those were the first two
in our company that,
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you know, that you see
on a day-to-day basis,
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and, you know, and they're gone.
It's just really... real.
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Twiggs seemed like the guy that still
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held it together really well,
you know.
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And that's his job.
That's his job as the platoon sergeant.
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I remember talking to him
about it,
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and I think I asked,
"You know, what do we do now?"
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and, uh...
and he said, you know,
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"The mission still goes on."
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He, uh, was just like
everybody else.
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There's no time to stop
and wonder and worry
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and be upset
and even cope with it.
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You push that shit
way down deep,
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and forget about it.
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We talked in depth on,
on the phone, and he was angry.
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I mean, like, really,
really, really angry.
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I mean, now he's up in rank,
now he's got some seniority.
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Why didn't they move
those fucking porta-johns?
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So at the end of the day,
he took that home with him,
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and he holds himself
responsible.
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He didn't drop the mortar
on them, but he--
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in his own mind,
he might as well have.
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What do you say to someone's family
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when you don't bring
their kids home, their husbands home?
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I mean, what do you say to them?
I mean, I don't have to deal with that.
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It wasn't like they're looking
at me saying, "How could you let this happen to my son?"
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They're looking at me
and saying, "I'm sorry you lost your friend."
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When they look at the commander,
they're thinking,
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"How did this happen to my son?"
You know, "You're responsible for it."
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And he was in charge.
You know, he had to bear that responsibility.
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And that...
that can't be easy.
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So I think he just put a lot
on himself.
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Um...
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And, and that was one
of the big problems
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that he faced when he got back.
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But, yeah, he just felt...
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...like a level
of responsibility,
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um, to bring
these guys back home, and...
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Yeah, I'm, I'm sure, in a way,
we all felt like sons to him,
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like how
we all felt like brothers.
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"Supplementary caseincident record,
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Grand Canyon National Park.
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The subjects were never foundat the scene.
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There were severalempty Budweiser beer cansin the vehicle,
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as well as an empty bottleof Jagermeister liquor.
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There was an apparent impactof the passenger sideof the windshield,
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indicating that the passengerhad hit the windshieldwith his head,
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when the vehicle impactedeither the cement barrieror the tree.
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The vehicle's license platewas run through dispatch,
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and came backas belonging to Travis Twiggs.
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After further investigation,it was determined that
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the probable driveris Travis Twiggs,
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and the passengerwas his brother,
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Willard Twiggs."
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"Everyone hastheir own beautiful melody
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that is played throughoutand down the road of life.
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At one interval, the melodyis temporarily replaced
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by a newand equally pleasing melody,
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then blended with the formerbefore being dropped.
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Then the way is lost,
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and the search for a wondrousnew melody begins
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with all of the passionthat it truly deserves."
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Will Twiggs, March, 2008.
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Will lived
in an apartment on David Drive in Metairie, Louisiana,
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which is Jefferson Parish,
just outside of New Orleans,
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with the suburb
of The Big Easy.
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William, he liked to stay close.
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He didn't have to go
to New Orleans or to the city or to an expensive club,
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you know,
he didn't require that.
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We talked about our past,
and he was
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one of fairly intelligent kids
in school,
238
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and, you know, he was a,
a spelling bee champ.
239
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You know, he told me about that.
He told me about playing the, the French horn.
240
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He wrote poetry,
he wrote, uh, feelings down.
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Nothing while we were together.
I-- You know, he didn't,
242
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he didn't say, "Listen, let me,
you know, drop this on you," no.
243
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But I do know he loved music
and he would quote a lot of things,
244
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and he, and he had
a history of that.
245
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He was very funny,
he did love, uh, to laugh and joke and cut up.
246
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He enjoyed that a lot.
247
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He had a series of jobs,
248
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including in marine logistics,
like his father,
249
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in, in the port of New Orleans.
250
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He worked for
a big German company
251
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that offered
to send him to Hamburg for advanced training.
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His father, Douglas,
seemed to think he had a real future in that industry,
253
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but he declined
to go to Germany.
254
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He was happier staying home
in New Orleans,
255
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as his father joked,
"Both of his friends are here."
256
00:13:48,349 --> 00:13:51,004
And then, around the time
of Hurricane Katrina,
257
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he started working
in construction and more sporadically.
258
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I mean, I think his career
was really sort of off track.
259
00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:02,145
But really, I think he was
quite a sort of popular, charming guy,
260
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like, like Travis, although
in a somewhat different way.
261
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Do I get to hug and kiss
the camera again? Something new.
262
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Oh, my God!
263
00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,725
- Thank you...
- You better kiss your uncle.
264
00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:20,250
I met Will. It was right after Katrina.
265
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We were in construction,
we was doing sheetrock,
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uh, floors, carpentry...
We were doing everything.
267
00:14:28,041 --> 00:14:31,131
You know, whatever there was
to make a buck, we did it.
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We hung out
every day after work.
269
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You know, every day. And, uh...
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we just became
real close friends.
271
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He was just a person
that can just capture your attention,
272
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get in a conversation with you
about anything.
273
00:14:49,018 --> 00:14:52,935
Very intelligent guy,
very intelligent person. Really nice personality.
274
00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:55,372
Will, Will was
a really good guy, you know.
275
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We, we did everything.
We did everything together.
276
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It's, it's hard
to describe Will.
277
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He, he was almost like
two different people.
278
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He had a lot of charm about him.
279
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He was a very
easy-to-talk-to guy,
280
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very easy to get to know.
281
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He would bend over backwards
for anyone
282
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that was ever, like, upset,
not feeling themselves
283
00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:20,571
Will would be there
straight away like, "What's wrong?"
284
00:15:20,745 --> 00:15:23,618
But that didn't last long
with me.
285
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I, I could sort of
see through that
286
00:15:26,316 --> 00:15:29,798
and began to see
a different side of Will.
287
00:15:29,972 --> 00:15:31,756
There was the drinking side
288
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and then there was
the sober side,
289
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and they were chalk and cheese.
290
00:15:36,631 --> 00:15:38,807
They, they were
completely different.
291
00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:41,157
Oh, you know, he was outgoing
when he was drunk,
292
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and when he was sober,
he was quiet, kept himself to himself,
293
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almost like he couldn't converse
with somebody
294
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unless he'd had a drink.
295
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"Looking to recapturemy quiet inner strength,
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my writing, my ambient world,my solo fortitudeand safe haven.
297
00:16:03,788 --> 00:16:06,139
It's near, and I'm anxiousfor it to sweep me over.
298
00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:10,056
The flame rises,but it soon descends.
299
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Empty pages and a frozen pen.
300
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:15,278
You're not loversand you're not quite friends."
301
00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:21,284
Will was, was on the,
on a drifter side of life. He, he had,
302
00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,374
he had lost his way
and was, was pretty content...
303
00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,117
...just being under the radar,
you know?
304
00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:30,206
He, he didn't even have,
like, a driver's license when I met him,
305
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:31,947
he didn't have a cell phone.
306
00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,603
You know, he, uh,
he went to get his taxes done,
307
00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:39,433
and he needed to get an ID
to, to show to get his tax--
308
00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:41,130
You know, he needed,
uh, proof of ID.
309
00:16:41,304 --> 00:16:43,915
He hadn't even filed taxes
for several years.
310
00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:45,830
You know,
he was under the radar.
311
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,268
You know, he didn't go
and spend money on clothes
312
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or, or appliances.
313
00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:53,490
You know, it was Marlboro,
Budweiser and weed, man.
314
00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:55,536
It was a real simple life.
315
00:17:05,937 --> 00:17:08,201
This is the what?
316
00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:11,465
Thunder Valley.
317
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Oh, good and I get approved on how bad you drive.
318
00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:17,862
We are 1400 feet above sea level.
319
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,430
- How far?
- 1,400 feet.
320
00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:25,261
Look at that. Look at that.
321
00:17:25,435 --> 00:17:27,698
Right there.
322
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Shortcut, parking and camping.
323
00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:32,529
We moved up here to Quantico.
324
00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:35,010
He was working
at the Warfighting Lab,
325
00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:38,535
which was pretty much
an office job, sitting behind a desk.
326
00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:42,409
And if you know Travis,
sitting... behind a desk
327
00:17:42,583 --> 00:17:44,411
was not his cup of tea.
328
00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:46,848
You know, he did not enjoy that.
329
00:17:47,022 --> 00:17:48,893
But he did it
for me and the girls
330
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:52,201
so he could be home with us
and not be deployed so much.
331
00:17:52,375 --> 00:17:55,378
It's a crazy pool right now.
332
00:17:55,552 --> 00:17:58,338
- It's a what?
- It's a crazy pool
333
00:17:58,512 --> 00:17:59,991
It's a crazy pool?
334
00:18:00,601 --> 00:18:03,038
- Yeah!
- Hello.
335
00:18:03,212 --> 00:18:05,562
- Hi.
- I don't know you. My name's Travis.
336
00:18:05,736 --> 00:18:08,217
- Hi. Sarah. Nice to meet you.
- It's nice to meet you. I have you on camera.
337
00:18:08,391 --> 00:18:09,697
Kellee's husband.
338
00:18:11,351 --> 00:18:13,657
I escaped from a loony bin this morning.
339
00:18:13,831 --> 00:18:17,139
Huh?
340
00:18:17,313 --> 00:18:21,056
That's when I started noticing somewhat of a change
341
00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:23,711
from being so sociable
and outgoing
342
00:18:23,885 --> 00:18:27,236
to just wanting to kind of
be with me and the kids.
343
00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:30,631
Very snappy, mood swings
like a light switch.
344
00:18:30,805 --> 00:18:36,202
We had a screened in back porch
and he would just sit back there and isolate himself,
345
00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:40,554
and not really want
to even be around anybody, you know?
346
00:18:40,728 --> 00:18:43,557
And it was very hard.
It was very hard.
347
00:18:43,731 --> 00:18:46,342
I loved Travis
when I first met him. I still love Travis.
348
00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:49,215
Uh, still think the wor--
uh, the world of the guy.
349
00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:51,869
Uh, he, uh, he was really
squared away.
350
00:18:52,043 --> 00:18:53,784
You know, everyone I talked to
who knew him
351
00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:57,048
said he was the best marine
they ever served with.
352
00:18:57,223 --> 00:19:01,183
He actually was a mentor
to a guy I served with, uh, in my first infantry battalion.
353
00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:03,925
You know,
it's a small Marine Corps kind of a coincidence.
354
00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:08,408
But, uh, he always had,
uh, raving reviews from everyone he worked with.
355
00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:12,107
And, uh for those
first six months, I thought he walked on water.
356
00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:21,247
Him and I were
on a business trip together.
357
00:19:21,421 --> 00:19:23,292
We were sitting there
eating dinner,
358
00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:25,468
and we were talking
with these guys we were on the trip with.
359
00:19:25,642 --> 00:19:28,471
They were civilians.
And, uh, these guys were talking about Iraq
360
00:19:28,645 --> 00:19:30,821
and, uh, how well the troops
are doing over there.
361
00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:34,869
And Travis got real quiet.
You know, Travis is a very, uh, outgoing guy.
362
00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,350
It was, uh, kind of weird
for him to get, uh, that quiet.
363
00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:39,613
I could notice his mood
was changing.
364
00:19:39,787 --> 00:19:41,658
And I looked at him, I'm like,
"Hey, Staff Sarge,
365
00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:43,660
what's going on with you?
What's, uh, what's wrong?"
366
00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:45,880
He's like, "Sir, these guys
don't fucking get it."
367
00:19:46,054 --> 00:19:47,708
I'm like, "They don't fucking
get what, Travis?"
368
00:19:47,882 --> 00:19:49,579
I said, "Why don't we,
why don't we step outside?
369
00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:51,755
Why don't we, uh, we figure out
what's going with you?"
370
00:19:51,929 --> 00:19:54,149
And we stepped outside and,
uh, he just kept telling me,
371
00:19:54,323 --> 00:19:57,152
"These guys don't fucking
get it. These guys don't fucking get it."
372
00:19:57,326 --> 00:20:00,242
I said, "Hey, uh, do you think
we need to go back, uh, to the hotel now?"
373
00:20:00,416 --> 00:20:02,679
He was like,
"Sir, whatever you want to do, I'm with you."
374
00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:04,464
I said, "All right,
we're gonna go back to the hotel
375
00:20:04,638 --> 00:20:06,988
and, uh, you can
hit the rack, uh..."
376
00:20:07,162 --> 00:20:10,252
And the next morning,
he came to me, he was, uh, chipper as always,
377
00:20:10,426 --> 00:20:12,385
said, "Hey, sir, you know,
I'm sorry about last night.
378
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,778
You know, I just get
like that sometimes."
379
00:20:14,952 --> 00:20:18,782
And that's the first time
I really noticed, uh, any kind of mood swings,
380
00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:21,829
uh, anything that could have
been attributed to PTSD.
381
00:20:26,399 --> 00:20:30,316
He went to Jersey to take some equipment up there.
382
00:20:31,055 --> 00:20:34,015
Two days went by,
and I didn't hear from him,
383
00:20:34,189 --> 00:20:36,060
and I'm calling him,
I'm calling him.
384
00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:39,150
And then finally
he calls me back, and I'm like, "Where are you?"
385
00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:42,241
And he says, "I'm sitting
in a McDonald's parking lot."
386
00:20:42,415 --> 00:20:45,374
And I'm like, "A, a what?"
387
00:20:45,548 --> 00:20:47,898
And he's like, "I'm sitting
in a McDonald's parking lot."
388
00:20:49,073 --> 00:20:52,076
I'm, "Why?"
"Because I can't go."
389
00:20:53,339 --> 00:20:54,818
"Why can't you go?"
390
00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:57,473
"Because I just
don't want to anymore."
391
00:20:57,647 --> 00:20:59,301
And then he just hangs up
the phone.
392
00:20:59,475 --> 00:21:01,434
And then I start
calling frantically.
393
00:21:01,608 --> 00:21:03,784
I'm like, "Where-- Are you okay?
What are you doing?"
394
00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,916
And he's like, "Just driving."
395
00:21:07,222 --> 00:21:09,268
I'm like,
"Where are you driving?"
396
00:21:10,138 --> 00:21:11,139
"Just driving."
397
00:21:12,183 --> 00:21:13,315
"Where are you going?"
398
00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:17,101
"I don't know.
I'm just driving."
399
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:20,191
I'm like, "Baby, don't you need
to bring that stuff to them?
400
00:21:20,844 --> 00:21:22,803
And, you know, I mean,
this is your job.
401
00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:24,326
Don't you need to...?
402
00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:29,157
Just bring it to him.
Call the command and say that you have to leave."
403
00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,420
"Okay, I will. I'm going
to call him right now."
404
00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:42,997
I got closer to Travis
than I did, uh,
405
00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:46,087
um, almost any other
enlisted marines I served with.
406
00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:50,221
Seeing, uh,
what he was going through, seeing him repeatedly fuck up,
407
00:21:50,396 --> 00:21:53,094
it, it was kind of hard, uh,
sometimes to be like,
408
00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:56,880
you know, "This is my friend,
this is my brother marine."
409
00:21:57,054 --> 00:21:59,666
You know, he-- And I,
and I want him to succeed,
410
00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:03,496
But, uh, at the same time,
I got to, you know,
411
00:22:03,670 --> 00:22:05,846
tell him, you know,
"Hey, you're fucking up."
412
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,196
You know, and, uh,
"You got to stop fucking up."
413
00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:10,329
The Marine Corps could have
ruined his career.
414
00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,288
They could have
pencil fucked him and wrote him up on charges
415
00:22:13,462 --> 00:22:15,508
and done all kinds
of rotten shit to him,
416
00:22:15,682 --> 00:22:18,075
and he could
have been discharged from the Marine Corps,
417
00:22:18,249 --> 00:22:20,643
and he could have been
discharged, not, maybe not dishonorably,
418
00:22:20,817 --> 00:22:22,123
but other than honorable.
419
00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:24,691
On that part,
I don't think they failed him.
420
00:22:25,256 --> 00:22:27,824
I think the biggest part
that failed Travis
421
00:22:28,608 --> 00:22:30,914
is the medical part
of the Marine Corps.
422
00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:38,966
Kellee talked a lot,
and so did other people in Travis' family
423
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:44,275
about his treatment
and what Kelly considered as over medication.
424
00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:46,539
Travis also considered himself
overmedicated.
425
00:22:46,713 --> 00:22:50,107
He reckoned that he was
on 12 different medications at, at one time,
426
00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:52,893
and some of his fellow marines
427
00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,938
very much felt that
the Marine Corps let him down,
428
00:22:55,112 --> 00:22:58,464
that the treatment
he received was band-aids
429
00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:01,423
on the immediate wounds,
the, the symptoms, you know,
430
00:23:01,597 --> 00:23:04,426
and, and were just trying
to quiet him down,
431
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,299
quiet him down,
get him to be calm so he can, he can go home.
432
00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:12,434
Why would you send somebody
who's mentally ill to see a physician's assistant?
433
00:23:13,217 --> 00:23:15,394
So when Travis would come in
and say, "You know what?
434
00:23:16,133 --> 00:23:19,659
I can't sleep at night
because I'm having all these, these nightmares."
435
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,139
"You can't sleep?
Take this drug."
436
00:23:23,053 --> 00:23:25,752
And then he'd come back
and go, "I'm a zombie all day long.
437
00:23:25,926 --> 00:23:28,189
I can't do that.
I got to function. I got to be at work."
438
00:23:28,363 --> 00:23:30,844
"Oh, this drug makes you
a zombie? Take this drug."
439
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,150
"That drug makes me jittery.
440
00:23:33,324 --> 00:23:34,891
You know, it's like,
it's like drinking
441
00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:36,371
a whole pot of coffee
all at once,
442
00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:37,894
and all of sudden,
you're just jacked.
443
00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:39,200
I can't deal with that."
444
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:41,898
"Well, take this drug."
445
00:23:42,072 --> 00:23:44,771
I've never seen
the medical records for Travis.
446
00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:47,382
I don't know what's handled
differently from m--
447
00:23:47,556 --> 00:23:50,603
military installation from--
to installation. I don't--
448
00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:52,735
It's obviously,
it's going to be different.
449
00:23:53,214 --> 00:23:57,044
But, somewhere,
it seems as though
450
00:23:57,218 --> 00:23:59,089
there was a lack of follow-up.
451
00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:01,004
There was a serious lack
of follow-up.
452
00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:06,053
"The followingis a summary of care
453
00:24:06,227 --> 00:24:08,316
provided toStaff Sergeant Twiggs.
454
00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:11,711
June 21st, medical encounterfor combat stress.
455
00:24:11,885 --> 00:24:15,497
July 28th, referral to VA,PTSD program.
456
00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:19,936
August 14th, medical encounter.Evaluation, meds.
457
00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:23,374
October 16th,psychiatric evaluation.
458
00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:25,681
December, 2006,
459
00:24:25,855 --> 00:24:28,815
deployed into Iraqwithout knowledgeof medical command."
460
00:24:32,732 --> 00:24:34,864
When he first told me
461
00:24:35,038 --> 00:24:37,084
that he may be
going back to Iraq,
462
00:24:37,258 --> 00:24:38,999
I'm like, "What?"
463
00:24:39,173 --> 00:24:40,609
"Well, it's only going to be
for a couple of months
464
00:24:40,783 --> 00:24:42,263
and we're going,
I'm going to bring
465
00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:46,180
some new weapons and gear
over to the boys and...
466
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:49,183
I'm not-- It's going to be
in the Green Zone. It's not gonna be bad."
467
00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:53,317
And I'm like, "How? What?
How is this possible?
468
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,145
How? What is going on here?"
469
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,234
You know, "This doesn't make
any sense."
470
00:24:57,408 --> 00:25:00,411
Do you think that... I mean, you didn't know,
471
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,457
and it wasn't your job to know,
472
00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:05,068
but the professionals
at the base, like P.A. Gertz,
473
00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:07,767
like, she was treating him
six months before that...
474
00:25:07,941 --> 00:25:09,333
Mm-hmm, she was.
475
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,379
Did she know he was traveling?
476
00:25:11,553 --> 00:25:13,163
I can't remember
if she knew or not.
477
00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:15,644
I know that when I went back
over to Iraq, uh,
478
00:25:15,818 --> 00:25:18,821
I volunteered to go over
with a reserve battalion. I know my, uh...
479
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,302
I think my commanding general,
my chief of staff, called her and said,
480
00:25:21,476 --> 00:25:23,434
"Hey, is Captain, uh, Vorgang
all right to go over there?"
481
00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:24,914
And she's like,
"Yeah, he's fine."
482
00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,439
It was kind of looked at
at least, uh,
483
00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:30,398
um, as being, you know,
just a three-week trip there.
484
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:31,660
He's going to go
and he'll be back.
485
00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:33,488
Nothing's going to happen
to him.
486
00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:35,534
He never told me if he saw
anything over there or not,
487
00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,710
but I don't think he did. Um...
488
00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:39,929
The, the other guy
who was with him said they didn't see anything.
489
00:25:40,103 --> 00:25:42,802
They were never attacked, uh,
by IEDs or small arms.
490
00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:45,195
But, uh, something
definitely changed in him when he got back.
491
00:25:45,369 --> 00:25:47,284
Uh, in, in retrospect,
492
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:50,331
um, would, uh,
would I have said something?
493
00:25:50,505 --> 00:25:52,463
You know, hindsight being 20/20?
494
00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:54,727
Now, yeah, I'd say, you know,
"We shouldn't have sent the guy."
495
00:25:54,901 --> 00:25:56,337
I think that sending him
over there
496
00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:58,513
and not being able
to fight with the boys,
497
00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:00,733
and him sitting there
in the Green Zone
498
00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:03,736
doing nothing and hearing
all the action going on,
499
00:26:03,910 --> 00:26:08,044
that is when
the light switch went off and never came back on.
500
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,013
"Supplementary caseincident record,
501
00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:21,971
Grand Canyon National Park.
502
00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:25,366
Following the motor vehicleaccident on East Rim Drive,
503
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:26,976
I interviewed Kellee Twiggs.
504
00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:28,804
She stated the following.
505
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:30,937
Travis goes bythe nickname 'T-Bo.'
506
00:26:31,111 --> 00:26:33,766
If we contact him,we should use that nickname.
507
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:36,856
She said when he would havereally bad flashbacksand be out of it,
508
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:38,727
she would hold himand use that name,
509
00:26:38,901 --> 00:26:40,337
and it would bring himout of it.
510
00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:42,557
Travis has beento tracking school.
511
00:26:42,731 --> 00:26:44,559
He's an expertat jungle warfare.
512
00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,126
He's really good at hiding.
513
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,912
She's also worriedthat his brother is on board."
514
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,353
Will spoke about his brother, Travis.
515
00:26:56,527 --> 00:27:00,880
I've never met Travis yet,
and Will was very concerned about his brother
516
00:27:01,054 --> 00:27:03,143
because he knew
his brother was sick.
517
00:27:04,318 --> 00:27:05,972
And he knew something was wrong.
518
00:27:08,017 --> 00:27:10,367
And... But he was very proud
of his brother.
519
00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:15,677
He loved bragging about Travis,
how he's an awesome marine.
520
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,723
I don't think
that he felt jealous.
521
00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:21,117
He just didn't feel proud
of himself,
522
00:27:21,814 --> 00:27:25,861
because his brother
was doing good and he, and he felt like he wasn't.
523
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,434
It's really hard to explain
524
00:27:33,608 --> 00:27:36,611
because their relationship
was tighter
525
00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:40,049
than any other
brother relationship that I've ever seen.
526
00:27:40,223 --> 00:27:43,139
They, they loved
each other beyond...
527
00:27:44,184 --> 00:27:45,272
...imagination.
528
00:27:52,975 --> 00:27:55,456
Travis and Will were mostly raised
529
00:27:55,630 --> 00:28:00,461
by their father, Douglas,
and his wife, Nancy, their stepmother,
530
00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:03,333
in a little town
upriver from New Orleans.
531
00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:06,859
So the boys grew up
in Southern Louisiana, and so did Kellee.
532
00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:10,514
I mean, Kelly and, and Travis
were, were friends as little kids.
533
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:11,994
They ran with
the same little group.
534
00:28:12,168 --> 00:28:14,649
T-Bo was his name
since he was a little boy,
535
00:28:14,823 --> 00:28:16,564
and his grandmother gave him
that name.
536
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:18,392
He was Rambo.
537
00:28:18,566 --> 00:28:20,786
He had s-- posters
of Rambo all over,
538
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,310
and when we would go
to his grandmother's house,
539
00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:26,748
she lived, um,
across the lake in the woods.
540
00:28:26,922 --> 00:28:28,141
And we would play
hide-and-go-seek.
541
00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:31,144
And I always knew
to be on his team,
542
00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:34,408
because if not, you were
going to get the bejesus scared out of you.
543
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,151
They were quite different types of kids.
544
00:28:38,325 --> 00:28:42,416
Will was kind of willowy,
uh, a big reader.
545
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:45,680
Travis was more
of a burly hellion.
546
00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:50,293
He was a strong,
um, super energetic kid
547
00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:52,165
who loved being outdoors.
548
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,778
Will was two, three years older
and sort of looked after his little brother.
549
00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:59,520
I think they did rely
on each other quite a lot.
550
00:29:00,086 --> 00:29:02,784
It was like Frick and Frack.
You know what I mean? They were the closest.
551
00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:06,266
They were always involved
in one another's lives,
552
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,094
and they were very close.
553
00:29:08,268 --> 00:29:11,097
I mean, the first day
Will had to go to kindergarten,
554
00:29:11,271 --> 00:29:14,578
T-Bo sat on the front porch
all day long, mad.
555
00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,059
He even sat out there
and pottied in his own pants,
556
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,888
and refused to go inside
in case his brother came home.
557
00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:23,500
I mean, that's how close,
and they were always like that.
558
00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:27,069
Will was everything to Travis,
559
00:29:27,243 --> 00:29:30,290
and that was what I gathered
from Travis.
560
00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:35,861
Will was the one person
that Travis wanted to impress the most.
561
00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:38,254
That just always seemed
kind of strange to me.
562
00:29:38,428 --> 00:29:41,910
Usually for a guy,
it's your dad, is that man in your life.
563
00:29:42,084 --> 00:29:44,260
But for Travis, it seemed
to me that it was Will,
564
00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,175
was that person
in his life for him.
565
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:49,657
I know that when Travis was a teenager,
566
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,747
he decided to go live
with their mother in Miami for a while.
567
00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:56,969
Will was very upset
that he just made this decision without consulting him.
568
00:29:57,143 --> 00:29:59,536
Will went off,
joined the Navy briefly.
569
00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:02,191
It was somewhat
of a military tradition in their family.
570
00:30:02,365 --> 00:30:05,542
They had a couple of uncles.
Their father had also been in the military,
571
00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:07,544
as a, as an MP.
572
00:30:07,718 --> 00:30:09,198
So they kind of grew up
on those stories,
573
00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,505
and it was a natural progression
into the military.
574
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:13,420
Will didn't last in the Navy,
575
00:30:13,594 --> 00:30:15,988
but of course, Travis did last
in the Marines.
576
00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:27,521
I think Will felt that he never lived up to his dad's standards,
577
00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:30,741
where his brother did.
Travis did.
578
00:30:30,916 --> 00:30:33,527
And I think, at a younger age,
579
00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:36,356
his dad helped him out a lot.
580
00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:39,707
But I don't think his dad,
in, in, like, later on,
581
00:30:39,881 --> 00:30:43,102
gave him much encouragement
with things,
582
00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:47,367
because I think that Will
sort of jumped about from place to place.
583
00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:50,022
Um, he had the drink problem,
584
00:30:50,196 --> 00:30:53,764
which I think his dad was,
like, very down on him about.
585
00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:56,724
So it would be sort of
that sort of thing
586
00:30:56,898 --> 00:31:00,293
that he was
just basically not living up to his dad's standards, I think,
587
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:02,599
and that affected Will a lot.
588
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,301
"If I ever did understand howthis whole life worked,
589
00:31:08,475 --> 00:31:10,390
I lost itsomewhere along the way.
590
00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:15,395
It somehow was marriedto the fantasiesof an emotional daydreamer.
591
00:31:16,309 --> 00:31:18,006
A daydreamer who livedin happiness
592
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:20,574
in a solitary houseof music and writing.
593
00:31:21,836 --> 00:31:23,229
No house at all, really.
594
00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:26,449
And when all of the real wallshave fallen
595
00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:28,974
and the bare,pathetic truth is exposed,
596
00:31:29,757 --> 00:31:32,542
there's onlya scared little boystanding there in disbelief."
597
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:37,765
I mean, once you grow up,
and you get married and you have your own kids,
598
00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:40,724
you're not constantly looking
for your parent's approval.
599
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:42,944
You know?
You've moved on from that.
600
00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:49,124
You're trying to raise your kids
and instill in them morals and life,
601
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:53,563
and you don't just dwell
on your parent's approval.
602
00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:57,263
I mean, you move on in life,
603
00:31:57,437 --> 00:31:59,526
and I don't think he did.
604
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,486
I mean, he was 37 years old,
never been married, never had no kids.
605
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,880
He felt like his brothers
were his kids.
606
00:32:06,054 --> 00:32:08,100
I mean, I've got
sisters and brothers,
607
00:32:08,274 --> 00:32:10,711
and they're not my kids,
I've got kids.
608
00:32:10,885 --> 00:32:14,715
You know?
It's, it's a different love and feeling and emotion.
609
00:32:15,237 --> 00:32:18,806
But for him to take on as...
610
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,374
his brothers, as his children,
611
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:23,245
I think that's what he did,
612
00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:26,509
which is kind of strange.
613
00:32:37,259 --> 00:32:39,522
I got a phone call from, uh, my boss
614
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:42,482
saying, "Hey, you're gonna
go to the Quantico clinic right now.
615
00:32:42,656 --> 00:32:44,919
Pick up Staff Sergeant Twiggs
and take him to Bethesda."
616
00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:46,921
All he kept saying was,
"I'm sorry, sir.
617
00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:49,445
You know, I know it's supposed
to be a day off for everyone,
618
00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:52,535
and you have to come
and take me to, uh, Bethesda." I probably told him, you know,
619
00:32:52,709 --> 00:32:55,147
"Just hold your head up high.
Hang in there, it'll be all right."
620
00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:58,541
Some, uh, some kind of
bullshit like that, uh,
621
00:32:58,715 --> 00:33:01,109
when, uh, I guess
in reality I knew...
622
00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:04,765
I didn't want to admit it, but,
uh, I kind of knew deep down
623
00:33:04,939 --> 00:33:06,506
that it wasn't
going to be all right for him,
624
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,422
because he just kept
going down this path, and, uh,
625
00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:12,729
it, it killed me
to see him doing that.
626
00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:17,343
He said, "I'm crazy. I can't help it."
627
00:33:19,301 --> 00:33:21,869
Well, to me, Travis was
always crazy.
628
00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:25,133
He was the guy
that was so outgoing and so beyond outgoing,
629
00:33:25,307 --> 00:33:26,961
you're like,
"This dude's crazy."
630
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,225
But when he meant he was crazy,
631
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:32,271
you heard it in his voice
and he goes,
632
00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:34,795
"I think I'm fucking crazy."
633
00:33:35,709 --> 00:33:39,060
And it wasn't
the crazy, funny ha-ha, like you know, "This dude's crazy."
634
00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:42,585
It's, "I'm crazy,
and I don't know how to stop it.
635
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:45,023
And I don't know how to fix it.
636
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:47,242
And I don't know what to do."
637
00:34:01,517 --> 00:34:05,782
I think what happens is that you've got your truth,
638
00:34:05,956 --> 00:34:09,612
like, you know,
your personal beliefs about the way the world works.
639
00:34:10,222 --> 00:34:12,702
You know, not necessarily
in your conscience,
640
00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:16,010
but in your subconscious,
there is a structure to the way the world works,
641
00:34:16,184 --> 00:34:18,230
and when something
traumatic happens,
642
00:34:18,404 --> 00:34:20,710
the foundation
on that structure breaks and it all collapses.
643
00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:22,538
You know,
the way you see the world,
644
00:34:22,712 --> 00:34:24,105
like, if you're looking
at the world through a window,
645
00:34:24,279 --> 00:34:25,933
the windows broke,
and now they have
646
00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:29,067
to go about building
an entire new reality
647
00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:30,807
'cause their old one is gone.
648
00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:33,897
The way they viewed the world
for their entire life,
649
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,639
or how it's evolved over time
650
00:34:36,813 --> 00:34:39,860
just got blown to shit,
washed away, it is no more.
651
00:34:40,034 --> 00:34:42,689
So now you've got
this 25, 26, 31-year-old,
652
00:34:42,863 --> 00:34:44,995
however-old person who's like...
653
00:34:46,214 --> 00:34:49,826
..."What am I supposed to do?
Everything I thought was real is not.
654
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,090
It's not the way
the world works. That's the way this world's
655
00:34:52,264 --> 00:34:54,048
supposed to work,
but that's not how it works."
656
00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:09,803
I saw some paintings
657
00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:12,545
that Travis had done
while he was hospitalized.
658
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,417
They were really disturbing,
659
00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:18,986
dark, dark visions from somebody
who's, who's haunted
660
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,034
and, and feels trapped
and on a kind of hopeless mission.
661
00:35:27,821 --> 00:35:30,215
I mean, they were
guy holding an eyeball,
662
00:35:30,389 --> 00:35:32,478
those horror images.
663
00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:37,700
One of them is a marine hanging from a wall
664
00:35:37,874 --> 00:35:39,528
by his fingertips
665
00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:41,704
with all his veins poking out.
666
00:35:41,878 --> 00:35:43,358
As I would think,
667
00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:46,318
like holding on
with every bit of might he could
668
00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:48,494
to his life.
669
00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:50,496
There's another picture of...
670
00:35:51,671 --> 00:35:53,934
It's me and the girls
in the background,
671
00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:55,979
and then his face real close.
672
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:59,200
But he's got like
this look on his face, like he's a monster.
673
00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:02,899
I wonder if that's what
he thought he was to us.
674
00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:06,338
Because he was not.
675
00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:09,515
And I don't understand
why he would think that.
676
00:36:11,691 --> 00:36:13,083
Just so awful, you know...
677
00:36:14,911 --> 00:36:17,305
...the way he thought
of himself.
678
00:36:20,917 --> 00:36:22,571
You might say that
679
00:36:22,745 --> 00:36:25,705
in the classic breakdown
of social trust
680
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:28,621
that is, is kind of
the essence of PTSD.
681
00:36:28,795 --> 00:36:34,017
The one person whom Travis
still did trust was Will.
682
00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,411
They'd been so close growing up,
683
00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:39,501
and Will idolized Travis, um,
684
00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:42,765
as this kind of warrior hero.
685
00:36:42,939 --> 00:36:45,638
And they formed this unit.
686
00:36:45,812 --> 00:36:48,336
They sort of spoke a language
that nobody else could,
687
00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:52,427
and they could imitate
each other's voice perfectly and fooled people over the phone.
688
00:36:52,601 --> 00:36:54,386
Which one it was.
They'd always been able to do this.
689
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,519
Will went and sat
at Travis' bedside in Bethesda
690
00:36:57,693 --> 00:37:01,088
when he was, um,
sort of at his worst in the hospital.
691
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:06,789
And his journals show
that his fixed idea was his loyalty to Travis.
692
00:37:06,963 --> 00:37:10,010
So this was a powerful,
powerful theme between the two brothers.
693
00:37:10,184 --> 00:37:11,620
You know, "We stick together."
694
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:15,929
"So, the tripis winding on down.
695
00:37:17,147 --> 00:37:19,672
One more full day, andthen I'm back in the airport,
696
00:37:19,846 --> 00:37:22,022
and then back to allof my stress and misery
697
00:37:22,196 --> 00:37:24,503
and remindersof mistakes and mayhem.
698
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:26,940
At least for a while.
699
00:37:28,855 --> 00:37:31,423
T-Bo needed this.No question.
700
00:37:32,162 --> 00:37:35,992
It's been a great visit,and I will most certainlybe sad to leave T-Bo.
701
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:39,300
My loyalty isunequivocally bent, T-Bo."
702
00:37:43,739 --> 00:37:45,306
When he came back,
703
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,091
that's when I noticed
that he wasn't the same,
704
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,268
He said, "My brother is sick.
705
00:37:50,442 --> 00:37:52,052
I can't do nothing about it."
706
00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:55,795
He just didn't know what,
what to do or where to turn.
707
00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:57,666
He, he, he didn't know.
708
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,191
He was trying to just deal
with it, I guess, on his own,
709
00:38:01,757 --> 00:38:03,759
and he started drinking a lot.
710
00:38:04,238 --> 00:38:07,415
And he just started,
you know, doing stuff that he would never do,
711
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:10,984
like punch holes in my doors
and stuff like that.
712
00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:15,989
But he was
very private, personal when it came to his family.
713
00:38:16,163 --> 00:38:18,034
He cared so much for T-Bo, he, uh,
714
00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:20,907
would always listen to him
on the phone, uh...
715
00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:24,214
There would be some problem,
he's trying to, to micromanage
716
00:38:24,389 --> 00:38:27,566
or, or, or give answers
or just be the, the ear.
717
00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:30,743
Then it would always end up
with like, "Well, have you started drinking yet?"
718
00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:32,440
You know, that's how
the conversation would go.
719
00:38:32,614 --> 00:38:34,660
Like, if there's
a problem, then,
720
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,749
"Have you started drinking?"
you know.
721
00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,359
I don't think it made it
any better,
722
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,448
but I guess they coped with it
a little easier.
723
00:38:44,539 --> 00:38:47,194
"Line of duty determination.Written findings
724
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:49,892
in the case of Staff SergeantTravis N. Twiggs.
725
00:38:50,066 --> 00:38:52,199
On March 26th, 2008
726
00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:55,681
Staff Sergeant Twiggsrequested leaveto visit his grandmother
727
00:38:55,855 --> 00:38:58,118
who was diagnosedterminally ill with cancer.
728
00:38:58,292 --> 00:39:00,163
Staff Sergeant Twiggs' doctor
729
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,905
advised that Staff SergeantTwiggs was not mentally fit
730
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,168
at this timeto travel without an escort."
731
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,350
Travis was too proud to show up next to his grandmother
732
00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:14,656
and have an escort.
733
00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:16,484
So he kept saying
that he was gonna go.
734
00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:19,313
He was going to New Orleans,
he was going to see her.
735
00:39:19,487 --> 00:39:21,402
And he's like,
"I just need you to understand
736
00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:24,100
that I love you and the kids
and I have to do what I have to do."
737
00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:27,234
And I said, "Please,
do not go to New Orleans.
738
00:39:27,408 --> 00:39:30,759
You're gonna flush
your Marine Corps down the drain,
739
00:39:30,933 --> 00:39:34,937
everything's gonna go away,
all that we've worked so hard for for this."
740
00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:36,852
Will had a little
throwaway phone and, uh,
741
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:39,028
we started getting calls
from, uh, T-Bo.
742
00:39:39,202 --> 00:39:41,074
And that, uh, he was getting
a pass or something.
743
00:39:41,248 --> 00:39:43,555
He was going to...
You know, he was getting out.
744
00:39:43,729 --> 00:39:45,948
And then, uh, we get another
phone call later in the day,
745
00:39:46,122 --> 00:39:47,820
like, "Oh, hey,
I'm, I'm on my way."
746
00:39:52,128 --> 00:39:54,609
So he just took off. He just jumped in a car
747
00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:56,655
and, uh, drove to New Orleans,
748
00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:58,831
um, where he hooked up with Will
749
00:39:59,005 --> 00:40:01,921
and saw other members
of his family, his grandmother,
750
00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:06,099
and he seemed,
um, in retrospect, according to his parents,
751
00:40:06,273 --> 00:40:08,275
um, really not himself.
752
00:40:08,449 --> 00:40:12,018
His voice didn't sound like him,
he, he was belligerent,
753
00:40:12,192 --> 00:40:15,543
and said to his father
as his father, Douglas, recalls it,
754
00:40:15,717 --> 00:40:18,154
um, that,
"I'm, I think I'm very sick."
755
00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:31,080
I heard they borrowed money
from everybody,
756
00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:34,127
but I did get $200
and lend it to them.
757
00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:36,738
And-- 'Cause for T-Bo's trip
back home.
758
00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:38,784
That's what they told me
it was for.
759
00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:42,527
And then that night,
I went to the bar and they were drinking,
760
00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:45,443
and I made them give me back...
They only had 100 left.
761
00:40:45,617 --> 00:40:47,140
I made them give me back 100.
762
00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:49,882
I mean, I've seen T-Bo,
like, three, four times.
763
00:40:50,056 --> 00:40:52,188
I think he was down here
for maybe, what, a week?
764
00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:56,062
I, I didn't know he was
this bad off, as he was.
765
00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:58,586
I wasn't looking for nothing.
766
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,546
No signs or not--
nothing abnormal.
767
00:41:02,111 --> 00:41:03,025
You know?
768
00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:06,115
Will was abnormal.
You know?
769
00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:08,466
You know?
I didn't have normal enough.
770
00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,225
Will kept calling me.
771
00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:32,838
I was working, so I couldn't
answer my phone at the time.
772
00:41:33,012 --> 00:41:35,667
I finally was able
to talk to him.
773
00:41:36,537 --> 00:41:38,800
Now his brother is in town
at this time.
774
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:45,198
And Will said,
"Terry, I just want to tell you
775
00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:47,983
thank you for being
a good friend of mine.
776
00:41:48,897 --> 00:41:52,858
But I'm, I'm done, Terry.
I'm done. I'm..."
777
00:41:53,032 --> 00:41:55,817
I said...
"What do you, what do you mean you're done?"
778
00:41:56,644 --> 00:41:59,212
He said,
"I'm-- Dude, I'm done...
779
00:42:00,648 --> 00:42:03,390
...with this place.
I got to get out of here."
780
00:42:03,564 --> 00:42:07,046
And I said,
"Well, are you moving? Are you going somewhere?"
781
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:10,136
He said, "Yeah, yeah.
that's exactly what I'm doing."
782
00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:12,834
I said, "Well,
where you're going?"
783
00:42:13,008 --> 00:42:15,097
He said, "Well, where I'm going,
I can't tell you.
784
00:42:17,012 --> 00:42:19,449
But you'll h-- you'll hear
from me again."
785
00:42:19,624 --> 00:42:21,147
I said, "What, what are you,
what are you going to do?
786
00:42:21,321 --> 00:42:22,496
Where are you going to go?"
787
00:42:23,192 --> 00:42:25,325
He said, "I'm gonna take
this motherfucker
788
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:27,327
and drive it into the ground."
789
00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:31,113
I said, "Well, well,
what are you talking about?"
790
00:42:32,332 --> 00:42:33,376
Well, he hung up.
791
00:42:33,942 --> 00:42:35,683
So when I called Cathy
792
00:42:35,857 --> 00:42:38,294
to find out, well,
where they're going or whatever,
793
00:42:39,252 --> 00:42:40,558
she said, "Terry...
794
00:42:42,168 --> 00:42:46,651
...you would not believe
how Will was."
795
00:42:46,825 --> 00:42:48,827
She said, "It was like
a different person."
796
00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:50,916
I said, "What do you mean?"
797
00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:53,962
She said he came
into the house with T-Bo...
798
00:42:55,747 --> 00:42:58,663
...demanded money,
"I need money now!"
799
00:42:59,141 --> 00:43:00,099
Demanded money.
800
00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:02,275
She gave up whatever money
801
00:43:02,449 --> 00:43:04,277
that it, that she could,
802
00:43:04,451 --> 00:43:06,496
and he just said
that he was going on a trip,
803
00:43:06,671 --> 00:43:08,977
or he was going somewhere.
804
00:43:09,151 --> 00:43:11,414
Didn't really give
too much of an explanation to anybody,
805
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:14,592
where they were going,
what they were doing, what the plan was.
806
00:43:14,766 --> 00:43:15,680
Nobody knew.
807
00:43:22,687 --> 00:43:24,950
From what I understand, Thursday was the last day
808
00:43:25,124 --> 00:43:27,169
that anybody in New Orleans
had seen them.
809
00:43:27,343 --> 00:43:30,520
Apparently, they drove over
to Texas
810
00:43:30,695 --> 00:43:34,350
and saw a friend of Will's, Kim.
811
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,352
When they talked to T-Bo,
he's like,
812
00:43:36,526 --> 00:43:38,572
"Oh, yeah, I'm going back.
I'm going home.
813
00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:40,356
I'm-- After we leave here,
we're going back.
814
00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:42,402
I'm gonna go
back up to Virginia,"
815
00:43:42,576 --> 00:43:44,273
like everything was okay
with him.
816
00:43:44,447 --> 00:43:46,275
Travis said something
to the effect of,
817
00:43:46,449 --> 00:43:48,582
you know, "This is much farther
than I thought."
818
00:43:48,756 --> 00:43:51,150
They had driven
all the way out from Louisiana.
819
00:43:51,324 --> 00:43:54,327
"Um, and I got to get back east,
and we can't stay the night."
820
00:43:54,501 --> 00:43:55,807
And, and they left.
821
00:44:07,993 --> 00:44:09,690
You've reached SSR Twiggs.
822
00:44:09,864 --> 00:44:11,605
I can't take your callright now. Leave a message.
823
00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:13,259
I'll get back to youas soon as I can.
824
00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:14,739
- Thanks.
825
00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:18,830
I went back
and looked at Travis's phone records of whom he--
826
00:44:19,004 --> 00:44:20,309
like who he had called.
827
00:44:20,788 --> 00:44:22,616
And, um, I saw this one number,
828
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:24,574
,and I didn't know who it was,
so I called it.
829
00:44:24,749 --> 00:44:27,534
Then apparently,
it was a friend of Will's.
830
00:44:27,708 --> 00:44:30,276
She said, "Well, yeah,
they called me earlier
831
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,148
and Will was saying
how they were at the Grand Canyon
832
00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:35,020
and how beautiful it was,
833
00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:37,805
and that it makes the hair
on his arms stand up,"
834
00:44:37,979 --> 00:44:41,548
and whatever she does,
she's got to get out there and see it,
835
00:44:41,722 --> 00:44:43,419
how beautiful it is.
836
00:44:43,593 --> 00:44:45,987
So I'm like, "Oh, my God,"
you know, like,
837
00:44:46,161 --> 00:44:49,512
"Wh-- what, what the hell
are they thinking? What is going on?"
838
00:44:56,563 --> 00:44:58,260
Well, there's not a great deal known.
839
00:44:58,434 --> 00:45:01,437
They were driving in this area
of the South Rim
840
00:45:01,611 --> 00:45:03,265
in a place
where there's no guardrail,
841
00:45:03,439 --> 00:45:05,703
and it's a 5,000-foot drop,
842
00:45:06,442 --> 00:45:09,141
and Travis was
at the wheel, apparently.
843
00:45:09,315 --> 00:45:13,232
He just hooked a hard left
and floored it over a curb,
844
00:45:13,406 --> 00:45:15,103
and off the rim.
845
00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:20,456
They hung up
at a little fir tree
846
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:22,763
that's growing out
just under the ledge,
847
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:24,896
the car basically stuck.
848
00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:27,115
So they got out.
849
00:45:27,289 --> 00:45:30,162
People who saw this thought
they were acting very strangely,
850
00:45:30,336 --> 00:45:33,687
talking about,
"Well, let's just, you know, continue with our plans."
851
00:45:34,296 --> 00:45:36,124
And what, what--
852
00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:38,213
You know, after doing this,
you have plans?
853
00:45:38,387 --> 00:45:41,608
What, what,
what were your plans, you know, exactly here?
854
00:45:41,782 --> 00:45:43,828
And they were
sort of getting their stuff out of the car
855
00:45:44,002 --> 00:45:47,005
and scrounging around
for cigarettes, "Where are the cigarettes?"
856
00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:50,008
I mean, they weren't making
a lot of sense, I think, to the witnesses.
857
00:45:50,182 --> 00:45:52,837
And they grabbed packs and split
858
00:45:53,011 --> 00:45:55,665
before the cops showed up.
859
00:45:56,231 --> 00:45:57,755
They went across the road
860
00:45:57,929 --> 00:46:01,106
into the scrub on the other side
and just kind of hid out
861
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,501
while the authorities came
and towed their car out of there
862
00:46:05,675 --> 00:46:07,808
and, and cleared it up
and tried to figure out
863
00:46:07,982 --> 00:46:10,115
what had happened,
and when they'd left,
864
00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:15,120
um, about an hour after
they'd cleared the scene and, and gone,
865
00:46:15,294 --> 00:46:18,384
they stopped a car
with a couple of tourists in it,
866
00:46:18,558 --> 00:46:21,561
showed a .38 revolver
and got them out of the car,
867
00:46:21,735 --> 00:46:24,694
basically carjacked them,
took their car and left with it.
868
00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:27,088
And that's the last time
they were seen.
869
00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:30,222
And nobody is sure what happened
between there and...
870
00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:32,224
...what happened 400 miles away.
871
00:46:49,894 --> 00:46:51,765
Hell of a night, so stand by.
872
00:46:51,939 --> 00:46:54,289
370, it's supposed to bea white Dodge Durango
873
00:46:54,463 --> 00:46:56,074
or Caliber.
874
00:46:56,248 --> 00:46:58,424
Once this carjacking took place,
875
00:46:58,598 --> 00:47:01,601
Arizona authorities
were looking for these guys,
876
00:47:01,775 --> 00:47:05,866
but nobody spotted them
for a day-and-a-half, two days,
877
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,913
and then they were pulled over
878
00:47:09,087 --> 00:47:10,958
near a border station
on Interstate 8.
879
00:47:11,132 --> 00:47:13,439
And they were asked to pull over
for a secondary inspection,
880
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:17,573
and that's when Travis
just floored it and, and the chase was on.
881
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,925
Sheriff's office. This is... - Hi. This is
882
00:47:21,099 --> 00:47:23,884
a supervisor of Border PatrolAgent Baxter, US Customsand Border Patrol station.
883
00:47:24,058 --> 00:47:27,279
- Uh-huh.
- We have a situation ofa vehicle running one of our
884
00:47:27,453 --> 00:47:30,108
checkpoints out at Welton. He'sgone over 100 miles an hour.
885
00:47:30,282 --> 00:47:32,937
We have helicoptersfollowing him,we have agents following him.
886
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:35,635
He is, uh, consideredarmed and dangerous
887
00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:37,724
And is it just one personin the vehicle?
888
00:47:37,898 --> 00:47:40,596
There is, uh, two people.Hold on, one second...
889
00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:43,251
And they're racing east across the Arizona desert
890
00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:47,952
and pursued by
any number of patrol cars, helicopters.
891
00:47:48,126 --> 00:47:51,129
At a certain point,
he hung a sudden left turn,
892
00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:55,394
come to a dead end at a dam
16 miles off the Interstate,
893
00:47:55,568 --> 00:47:59,528
hung a sharp U turn
and raced back at the cars that were chasing them.
894
00:47:59,702 --> 00:48:03,097
We'll be approaching StanfieldRoad in about one or so.
895
00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:06,622
GPS involved,along with Border Patroland an MCSO unit.
896
00:48:07,188 --> 00:48:10,017
It's certainly easy to picture
897
00:48:10,191 --> 00:48:13,151
how Travis in this sort ofdisastrous state of mind
898
00:48:13,325 --> 00:48:17,242
where he's been plaguedby flashbacks over time,often thinks he's in Iraq.
899
00:48:17,416 --> 00:48:19,548
You know, racingthrough the desert,
900
00:48:19,722 --> 00:48:22,421
with choppers overheadand the vehicles around him
901
00:48:22,595 --> 00:48:25,990
may have, may have felt likehe was back in combat,he was in Iraq.
902
00:48:27,992 --> 00:48:31,343
A tribal policemancame out to the highway
903
00:48:31,517 --> 00:48:35,869
and laid out some spike stripsto flatten the tires.
904
00:48:36,043 --> 00:48:39,568
Still eastbound. He just hitthe strips at Stanfield Road.
905
00:48:39,742 --> 00:48:41,440
- I'll get youmile markers to that-- - Copy.
906
00:48:41,614 --> 00:48:45,183
1962 vehicle lost controlof I-8 eastbound at 162.
907
00:48:45,357 --> 00:48:47,185
900, all units hold traffic.
908
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,330
The thing that
bothers me the most is the last ten minutes...
909
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,291
...is the last ten minutes
of that car.
910
00:49:06,465 --> 00:49:09,294
What went through their heads?
911
00:49:09,468 --> 00:49:11,339
Okay, you're doing a felony,stop the vehicle bid roll.
912
00:49:11,513 --> 00:49:13,559
I-8 is closedat this time at 10:14.
913
00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,040
900, all unitscontinue to hold trafficfor a felony stop.
914
00:49:17,345 --> 00:49:18,956
And that was my biggest problem for so long.
915
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:21,871
I felt like I was in a bubble
sitting in the back seat
916
00:49:22,046 --> 00:49:23,612
and I could
see them two talking.
917
00:49:23,786 --> 00:49:26,267
You know, "I can't go to jail.
I can't go to jail, man.
918
00:49:26,441 --> 00:49:29,009
You're gonna have to do it.
You're gonna have to do it. I can't do it."
919
00:49:32,752 --> 00:49:36,364
Will was a pretty strong person. He was a strong-willed person.
920
00:49:36,538 --> 00:49:39,585
I wouldn't put it past him.
He wasn't too scared of anything.
921
00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:44,198
I'm sure he felt like,
"What would be the purpose of, of staying here?
922
00:49:44,372 --> 00:49:45,721
My brother's sick.
923
00:49:46,635 --> 00:49:49,812
He could never find happiness
ever again in his life.
924
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,640
His life is upside down.
925
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:54,252
What the hell we need
to be here for anymore?"
926
00:49:55,644 --> 00:49:58,343
- And that was it.
- 760, did I copy there is
927
00:49:58,517 --> 00:50:00,388
- a weapon in the vehicle?
- There's a weapon.
928
00:50:00,562 --> 00:50:02,086
Calling all units,
929
00:50:02,260 --> 00:50:04,740
- continue to hold traffic.
930
00:50:04,914 --> 00:50:07,656
Shots fired,possible triple-six.
931
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,224
1192, if that's you, or 1207,can you observe
932
00:50:10,398 --> 00:50:12,531
- from that sideand give us a status? -
933
00:50:12,705 --> 00:50:14,446
We have shots fired,possible triple-six.
934
00:50:14,620 --> 00:50:16,100
900, all units, hold traffic.
935
00:50:17,057 --> 00:50:19,233
Stand by, copy, he justdropped down into the seat.
936
00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:22,758
Okay, I copy.The subject just slumped downat the wheel this time.
937
00:50:22,932 --> 00:50:24,891
I have a visual on him. He'sslumped down behind the dash.
938
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:27,328
- We can't see him anymore.
939
00:50:27,502 --> 00:50:29,852
Okay, I copy. You do not havea visual on the subject
940
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:31,593
at this time at 10:15.
941
00:50:32,246 --> 00:50:34,161
This is LT1 433 and LT6.
942
00:50:42,604 --> 00:50:45,390
Travis fired all three, shot Will through the temple.
943
00:50:45,564 --> 00:50:48,306
It was fatal. Then shot himself
under the chin,
944
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,916
which was not fatal.
945
00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:53,137
And then he fired
a second shot that was fatal
946
00:50:53,311 --> 00:50:56,140
and he sort of fell over
into his brother's lap.
947
00:50:59,665 --> 00:51:01,275
Just FYI, it was a pursuit.
948
00:51:01,449 --> 00:51:03,364
Two people have been, uh,are seen either, uh,
949
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:05,801
knocked out or slumped over.
950
00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:08,848
6768, if you can hear me,uh, just perimeter up,
951
00:51:09,022 --> 00:51:12,199
uh, we got more units coming.Don't approach the vehicle.
952
00:51:12,373 --> 00:51:14,636
392, take care of westbound traffic. You're in front of us.
953
00:51:14,810 --> 00:51:17,378
We're just passing 167.Stop all westbound.
954
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:20,077
On traffic, 84.We'll be there in a few.
955
00:51:20,251 --> 00:51:23,428
We're, uh, about Murphyon the I-8,myself and Command Two.
956
00:51:24,907 --> 00:51:26,953
In Camp Farm,Company divert northbound
957
00:51:27,127 --> 00:51:29,651
to State Route 84off of MontgomeryAppleton 8, 10:01.
958
00:51:31,436 --> 00:51:33,307
See if we can get a canineout here, maybe approach...
959
00:51:33,481 --> 00:51:35,570
- ...the, the, uh, vehicle.Uh, see if BPS
960
00:51:35,744 --> 00:51:37,703
has a canine available to make approach to the vehicle.
961
00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:40,140
The stuff that I think, you know, civilians,
962
00:51:40,314 --> 00:51:43,100
I don't know if it's take
for granted or whatever, but it's like over there,
963
00:51:43,274 --> 00:51:45,276
you know, you think, you know,
all the really matters
964
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:47,147
is the guy on your left
and your right, you know.
965
00:51:47,321 --> 00:51:48,888
I mean, when you're back here,
it's like, you don't,
966
00:51:49,062 --> 00:51:50,672
you don't think
about things like that.
967
00:51:50,846 --> 00:51:53,066
If me and you are
out there, you know,
968
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,720
and, and you've got my six,
you know,
969
00:51:54,894 --> 00:51:56,330
I shouldn't have to turn around
970
00:51:56,504 --> 00:51:58,637
and make sure
that you're watching my six.
971
00:51:58,811 --> 00:52:02,554
I trust you, you know,
as a brother to know that you've got that.
972
00:52:02,728 --> 00:52:04,382
You've got that part
of the security you're holding,
973
00:52:04,556 --> 00:52:06,253
so it's just
that level of camaraderie
974
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:08,081
between, between one another.
975
00:52:08,255 --> 00:52:11,084
You know, it's, it's uniq--
it's a unique thing.
976
00:52:11,258 --> 00:52:14,870
You know, it's a unique thing.
So, I'm, I'm sure for anybody else that--
977
00:52:15,044 --> 00:52:16,350
I don't have
any brothers, you know.
978
00:52:16,524 --> 00:52:18,396
Um, but I'm sure
for anybody that does,
979
00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:20,311
they, they, they'd understand
how it is, you know,
980
00:52:20,485 --> 00:52:22,878
brothers' love,
you know, for one another.
981
00:52:24,793 --> 00:52:26,143
Okay, hold on,
982
00:52:26,621 --> 00:52:28,667
let's see if we can get
Uncle Will into this picture.
983
00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:34,325
I'll... just get the sunlight
not on him.
984
00:52:35,326 --> 00:52:37,632
What does that say?
What does that say? - There he is!
985
00:52:41,245 --> 00:52:44,248
Just trying to write
my stupid brother a letter. - Wait, wait--
986
00:52:45,466 --> 00:52:47,381
Because he's drunk, and...
987
00:52:47,555 --> 00:52:49,209
Never got to tell him
my feelings. - "Your 'Bestest
988
00:52:49,383 --> 00:52:50,558
Potna'...
989
00:52:52,212 --> 00:52:54,519
...forever and a day."
990
00:52:55,868 --> 00:52:57,870
Number two, Rusty Wallace,
991
00:52:58,044 --> 00:53:00,481
- obviously.
- Uh, number one is the one I meant.
992
00:53:02,614 --> 00:53:03,702
Creep.
993
00:53:03,876 --> 00:53:05,486
Really?
994
00:53:05,660 --> 00:53:07,358
Creep fucking jerk.
995
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:12,493
So now what are
you going to do? - Oh, yeah?
996
00:53:13,494 --> 00:53:15,583
Where's the beer? Huh?
997
00:53:15,757 --> 00:53:17,368
What do you mean
where is it? - Where is the fucking beer?
998
00:53:17,542 --> 00:53:20,066
It's up your ass,
you dumb-witted-- - Oh!
999
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,417
How creative!
Come up with something a little better than that.
1000
00:53:23,591 --> 00:53:25,332
- Yeah, I could.
- How can I...
1001
00:53:25,506 --> 00:53:27,595
I could come up with this, right here.
1002
00:53:27,769 --> 00:53:29,075
- How about right here?
- Look.
1003
00:53:51,097 --> 00:53:53,273
You would think Travis come down here
1004
00:53:53,447 --> 00:53:55,667
to see his grandmother
'cause she was sick,
1005
00:53:55,841 --> 00:53:57,234
and he didn't want
to be chaperoned.
1006
00:53:57,408 --> 00:53:58,887
I don't think he didn't want
to be chaperoned,
1007
00:53:59,061 --> 00:54:02,021
I think all that was playing
from when Will went
1008
00:54:02,848 --> 00:54:04,502
up there and visited him.
1009
00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:09,071
I think that's when
they really, you know, set everything in motion.
1010
00:54:21,606 --> 00:54:23,912
"So, the tripis winding on down.
1011
00:54:24,086 --> 00:54:26,611
One more full day, and thenI'm back in the airport
1012
00:54:26,785 --> 00:54:29,048
and then back to allof my stress and misery
1013
00:54:29,222 --> 00:54:32,965
and remindersof mistakes and mayhem.At least for a while.
1014
00:54:33,705 --> 00:54:37,361
It's been a great visit,and I will most certainlybe sad to leave T-Bo.
1015
00:54:37,535 --> 00:54:40,799
My loyalty isunequivocally bent to T-Bo.
1016
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:45,543
As you know, I fell in loveone time in my life so far.
1017
00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:48,154
I did not know that for sureuntil it happened
1018
00:54:48,894 --> 00:54:50,722
and you knowwhat happened to all of that.
1019
00:54:51,766 --> 00:54:54,465
As much as I have triedto pick up the piecesand move on,
1020
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:56,641
I have been unable to do so.
1021
00:54:57,816 --> 00:54:59,470
Roger Waters says,
1022
00:55:00,166 --> 00:55:03,648
'The rusty wirethat holds the corkthat keeps the anger in...
1023
00:55:04,823 --> 00:55:06,912
...gives wayand suddenly it's day again.'
1024
00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:11,569
I'm fairly convincedthat the only wayI can turn that song off
1025
00:55:11,743 --> 00:55:14,354
is to go far awayfrom all the people I know,
1026
00:55:15,007 --> 00:55:18,402
Mistakes I continue to make,problems I am ducking.
1027
00:55:19,098 --> 00:55:19,968
All of it."
1028
00:55:41,816 --> 00:55:43,122
"I just need to go.
1029
00:55:44,123 --> 00:55:46,473
I have a place to goand I have a plan.
1030
00:55:47,169 --> 00:55:49,607
The 'saying goodbye' shitis what's so damned hard."
1031
00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:05,449
To hear that T-Bo did that to Will...
1032
00:56:05,927 --> 00:56:10,105
Will fed on his... sickness,
1033
00:56:11,063 --> 00:56:12,281
and I think that...
1034
00:56:15,023 --> 00:56:19,027
...he pushed T-Bo to...
1035
00:56:20,115 --> 00:56:21,726
...to where they are.
1036
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:24,293
I just would have never guessed
in a million years.
1037
00:56:24,468 --> 00:56:28,559
I would have never guessed.
And I've known him my whole life,
1038
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:31,126
and I would have never guessed
it would have been this way.
1039
00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:32,476
I mean, I knew Will.
1040
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:34,129
Will was the smart one.
1041
00:56:34,869 --> 00:56:36,741
T-Bo was the mischievous one.
1042
00:56:38,482 --> 00:56:40,005
I don't know.
1043
00:56:41,615 --> 00:56:45,445
I knew the guy was,
was unhappy about, you know, a lot of things,
1044
00:56:45,619 --> 00:56:50,450
which he had a,
he had a good reason to be. But not to end his life.
1045
00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:54,672
Because Will would just
come up with some really weird sayings sometimes,
1046
00:56:54,846 --> 00:56:56,935
you know?
He was a character, you know?
1047
00:56:57,109 --> 00:57:00,025
He said, "Yes, I'm gonna drive
this thing into the ground."
1048
00:57:00,678 --> 00:57:03,332
You know...
he didn't know really what he was talking about.
1049
00:57:03,507 --> 00:57:08,033
The last thing you're thinking
is that he's gonna end his life.
1050
00:57:08,207 --> 00:57:13,517
I can see him running away,
but I can't see Will wanting to die. You know?
1051
00:57:14,169 --> 00:57:16,563
He wouldn't hurt nobody.
He certainly didn't want to hurt himself.
1052
00:57:16,737 --> 00:57:20,132
"Rusty wire that holds the corkthat keeps the anger in..."
1053
00:57:20,306 --> 00:57:23,527
He liked Pink
Floyd and he liked the Beatles a tremendous amount, too.
1054
00:57:23,701 --> 00:57:26,617
But that's just writing,
That doesn't mean that's... that those were actions.
1055
00:57:26,791 --> 00:57:29,750
I mean, were those plans
or were those just poetry?
1056
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,754
T-Bo, he was the one
who had the gun, you know,
1057
00:57:33,928 --> 00:57:36,365
he was the one that drove
all the way here.
1058
00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:37,715
Will was just...
1059
00:57:38,716 --> 00:57:40,848
...cleaning carpet
and air ducts,
1060
00:57:41,022 --> 00:57:43,895
living his life,
being as happy as he could be.
1061
00:57:44,722 --> 00:57:45,897
T-Bo showed up...
1062
00:57:47,072 --> 00:57:49,944
...and everything changed
for, for, for both of them at that point.
1063
00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:53,295
Will could have got out
of that car any time. Will chose that.
1064
00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:56,037
He chose to take it
to the end with his brother.
1065
00:57:56,211 --> 00:58:00,651
He, he chose to be there
to support him, to, to love him.
1066
00:58:00,825 --> 00:58:04,263
I, I guess no one
will ever really know...
1067
00:58:06,178 --> 00:58:07,962
...the truth, you know?
1068
00:58:09,050 --> 00:58:12,184
All I can say is Will loved
his brother that much...
1069
00:58:14,752 --> 00:58:16,667
...that, that he's willing
to die for him.
1070
00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:24,675
In retrospect,
certainly, it has a form and almost predictability
1071
00:58:24,849 --> 00:58:28,200
that these two were
going to ride off the...
1072
00:58:28,374 --> 00:58:30,245
if not off the edge
of the Grand Canyon,
1073
00:58:30,419 --> 00:58:31,725
were just going
to certainly go out
1074
00:58:31,899 --> 00:58:34,989
in a kind of blaze
of self-destructiveness.
1075
00:58:35,163 --> 00:58:37,949
I, I won't call it glory,
because suicide,
1076
00:58:38,123 --> 00:58:41,126
it leaves everybody else
with a great burden
1077
00:58:41,909 --> 00:58:46,435
of sorrow and guilt
that those who are gone have, have left off.
1078
00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:50,788
You know what triggered it
and said, "That's it, I'm, I'm done with this." Like...
1079
00:58:52,311 --> 00:58:54,356
Something really bad went wrong.
I don't...
1080
00:58:54,922 --> 00:58:58,665
Like I--
I question it all the time. I don't, I don't understand.
1081
00:58:59,274 --> 00:59:02,147
But, I mean,
I think the military and whoever treated him
1082
00:59:02,321 --> 00:59:05,280
deserves, you know,
to answer those questions.
1083
00:59:05,454 --> 00:59:07,456
I mean, there's just
a lot of maybes in it,
1084
00:59:07,935 --> 00:59:10,198
that, you know,
we'll never get the answers to.
1085
00:59:10,938 --> 00:59:14,812
He f-- he felt
in his mind he failed when those kids died,
1086
00:59:14,986 --> 00:59:18,598
and he committed
the ultimate sin in his mind
1087
00:59:18,772 --> 00:59:20,644
by letting those two kids die.
1088
00:59:20,818 --> 00:59:23,734
It's scary
because you just never know
1089
00:59:23,908 --> 00:59:27,651
what you'll see, you know,
or what's inside somebody that you just don't see.
1090
00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:31,219
If I lost my arm in combat,
motherfuckers would look at me and go,
1091
00:59:31,393 --> 00:59:35,484
"Fuck, dude, you're badass.
You lost an arm and you fucking kept on going?
1092
00:59:35,659 --> 00:59:37,791
And you're,
you're moving forward with your life?
1093
00:59:37,965 --> 00:59:39,488
That's hardcore,
that's super tough.
1094
00:59:39,663 --> 00:59:41,708
You did your job,
you served your country."
1095
00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:45,625
But I look at you and go,
"Dude, I can't sleep at night.
1096
00:59:45,799 --> 00:59:47,409
I've got these
horrible fucking nightmares,
1097
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:49,281
and I think crazy thoughts,
1098
00:59:49,455 --> 00:59:51,718
and I'm walking down the street
and I smell something,
1099
00:59:51,892 --> 00:59:54,373
and all of sudden,
I'm right back to where I was when I--
1100
00:59:54,547 --> 00:59:56,288
this horrible thing
happened to me."
1101
00:59:57,463 --> 00:59:59,639
They're going to look at him
and go, "You fucking pussy.
1102
01:00:01,467 --> 01:00:02,860
Man up or pant up.
1103
01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:05,689
Put your big girl pants on,
move forward."
1104
01:00:13,566 --> 01:00:15,437
The fact that he had PTSD,
1105
01:00:16,264 --> 01:00:19,354
the fact that he,
you know, killed himself.
1106
01:00:19,528 --> 01:00:23,445
He did those things,
but that's not really the man that he was, you know?
1107
01:00:24,098 --> 01:00:28,102
That was a small glimpse
of his entire life, and a horrible glimpse.
1108
01:00:28,276 --> 01:00:31,584
He wasn't a marine
suffering from PTSD.
1109
01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:34,152
He was a marine. Bottom line.
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