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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,724 --> 00:00:18,059 - This wasn't suicide, at least not 2 00:00:18,101 --> 00:00:19,519 in my professional opinion. 3 00:00:19,561 --> 00:00:22,188 The bomber's handwriting on the suicide note 4 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:24,024 isn't consistent with his old journals. 5 00:00:24,065 --> 00:00:26,192 Even his signature is off. 6 00:00:26,234 --> 00:00:30,363 Intense stress creates stroke impulses, 7 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:32,032 jerking movements when writing. 8 00:00:32,073 --> 00:00:33,616 This note is full of them. 9 00:00:33,658 --> 00:00:35,201 - You think he was under duress? 10 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:36,953 - This man wasn't looking to end his life. 11 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:38,139 He was forced into the noose. 12 00:00:38,163 --> 00:00:39,748 - He did kill 13 people. 13 00:00:39,789 --> 00:00:41,374 That's a lot of guilt on his shoulders. 14 00:00:41,416 --> 00:00:43,084 - He bombed that church 20 years ago. 15 00:00:43,126 --> 00:00:46,713 The concept of habituation says most emotions dissipate 16 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:49,382 over time, meaning if guilt was the driving 17 00:00:49,424 --> 00:00:51,092 factor in him taking his life, 18 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:52,236 he would have done it back then. 19 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:53,928 - Maybe he got when we were coming. 20 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:55,930 Suicide made more sense than going through a trial 21 00:00:55,972 --> 00:00:57,057 and facing life in a cell. 22 00:00:57,098 --> 00:00:59,100 - Look at this. 23 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:02,187 One of the chairs has a scuff mark on it, 24 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:03,688 a small chip at the bottom. 25 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:05,940 We didn't see it at the scene, but someone kicked 26 00:01:05,982 --> 00:01:07,442 that chair out from under him. 27 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:08,985 - Looks like murder to me too. 28 00:01:09,027 --> 00:01:10,838 - Which leads to our third man, the same person 29 00:01:10,862 --> 00:01:13,573 who intimidated Wes Banning in the parole hearing. 30 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:15,075 - Now he's tying up loose ends. 31 00:01:15,116 --> 00:01:16,260 - OK, we press it as a murder. 32 00:01:16,284 --> 00:01:17,285 What next? 33 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:18,870 - We talk to his mom. 34 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:20,306 He was living with her when he bombed the church. 35 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:21,915 If someone wanted to kill her son, 36 00:01:21,956 --> 00:01:23,667 maybe she points us in the right direction. 37 00:01:23,708 --> 00:01:25,251 - Great. I should look at her file. 38 00:01:25,293 --> 00:01:27,587 We can figure out an approach. 39 00:01:27,629 --> 00:01:30,715 - You can't be involved, not anymore. 40 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:32,300 - What do you mean? 41 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:34,928 - He's a suspect in a bombing where you were a victim. 42 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:37,347 Technically you had motive to kill the bomber. 43 00:01:37,389 --> 00:01:40,100 I know that you wouldn't, but it's optics. 44 00:01:40,141 --> 00:01:41,768 - Was this his idea? 45 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:43,245 - This is the first I'm hearing of it. 46 00:01:43,269 --> 00:01:44,562 - Alec, please. 47 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:47,273 If this case isn't 100% above board, 48 00:01:47,315 --> 00:01:50,860 the entire investigation is compromised. 49 00:01:50,902 --> 00:01:52,779 - Understood. 50 00:01:54,572 --> 00:01:56,658 - We'll let you know what we find. 51 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:04,958 - A wrongful death civil trial is underway in D.C. six months 52 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,961 after three out of four members of a tactical unit 53 00:02:08,003 --> 00:02:12,090 known as the VIPER Squad shot and killed Joshua Hill-Jones, 54 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:15,802 a local building inspector, in a police raid gone wrong. 55 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:19,222 His husband Mason rejected the city's settlement offer, 56 00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:20,724 and now he's taking the district 57 00:02:20,765 --> 00:02:23,935 and officers that gunned down his partner to court. 58 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:25,204 - I could have sworn there was a gallon of milk 59 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:26,646 in here last night. 60 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:30,358 - I grabbed it in case I needed to rinse my eyes out. 61 00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:35,196 Did someone forget I was protesting last night 62 00:02:35,238 --> 00:02:36,990 outside that courtroom? 63 00:02:37,032 --> 00:02:39,367 It was cloudy with a chance of cops using tear gas. 64 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:40,368 - Did they? 65 00:02:40,410 --> 00:02:42,746 - No, not yet. 66 00:02:42,787 --> 00:02:44,497 But I got to stay ready. 67 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:45,850 - I'd stay away from that coverage. 68 00:02:45,874 --> 00:02:47,667 It's only going to make you angry. 69 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:50,337 - Too late. 70 00:02:50,378 --> 00:02:52,213 You know, I don't get how you always be 71 00:02:52,255 --> 00:02:53,840 so academic about this stuff. 72 00:02:53,882 --> 00:02:55,216 - Come on, Kylie. 73 00:02:55,258 --> 00:02:57,010 You don't think I get furious, sad? 74 00:02:57,052 --> 00:02:58,904 This keeps happening to us, to your close friend. 75 00:02:58,928 --> 00:03:01,348 But somebody got to be the cooler head. 76 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:03,099 How is Mason? 77 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:04,309 - Police killed his husband. 78 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:05,477 He's not great. 79 00:03:10,774 --> 00:03:12,650 - I'm sorry. 80 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:15,362 Mason shouldn't be grieving his husband. 81 00:03:15,403 --> 00:03:17,113 When we were at Hampton, Mason was 82 00:03:17,155 --> 00:03:19,157 the life of our marching band. 83 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,493 And he got me through a lot when you were in the hospital, 84 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:22,869 so I got to be there for him. 85 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:25,330 But it's not looking good, Alec. 86 00:03:25,372 --> 00:03:27,874 His expert witness bailed on him last minute. 87 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:29,626 - Expert in name only. 88 00:03:29,668 --> 00:03:32,379 - Look, I know you detest the whole expert witness racket, 89 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:35,548 but Mason won't win without one. 90 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:38,343 We both know it can help sway a jury. 91 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:40,595 Mason says that they got a long list 92 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:43,390 of potential psychologists. 93 00:03:43,431 --> 00:03:46,226 Could you at least help Mason vet them? 94 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,520 - That's not really a request, is it? 95 00:03:48,561 --> 00:03:52,357 - Mason is taking on the entire District of Columbia. 96 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:53,942 I know you won't sit that out. 97 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:03,576 - I appreciate you helping us out like this, Alec. 98 00:04:03,618 --> 00:04:07,539 Losing our expert has been a bit overwhelming. 99 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:08,957 - I'll do what I can. 100 00:04:08,998 --> 00:04:11,584 But expert testimony in officer-involved 101 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:15,046 shootings is 90% snake oil... 102 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:19,426 Paid actors who use science to play on jurors' emotions. 103 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:22,429 - But we still need one on our side. 104 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:26,474 There's a list of potential experts. 105 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:31,646 - I'd scrap these first three. 106 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:34,274 They testified for both sides, and any good defense 107 00:04:34,315 --> 00:04:35,775 lawyer will pick them apart. 108 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:38,570 These last five are all convincing, 109 00:04:38,611 --> 00:04:41,322 and they're marginally more ethical than the rest. 110 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:42,949 It'll be easier to recommend one 111 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:44,826 if I know who they're up against. 112 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:48,079 - His name is Dr... 113 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,707 - Dustin Atwood. 114 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:53,668 Never met a police shooting he couldn't justify... 115 00:04:53,710 --> 00:04:57,589 Dual PhDs in experimental psychology and neuroscience, 116 00:04:57,630 --> 00:04:59,674 morals of a jackal. 117 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:02,677 - Well, our expert said he bailed for personal reasons. 118 00:05:02,719 --> 00:05:04,346 But I don't think it's a coincidence this 119 00:05:04,387 --> 00:05:06,306 happened after I told him Dr. Atwood 120 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:07,474 was on their witness list. 121 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:09,017 - He didn't want to take the loss. 122 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:11,478 If he's on the stand and you lose, it hurts his pay quote. 123 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,565 And Atwood's tactics are nearly unbeatable. 124 00:05:15,607 --> 00:05:16,983 - Why is that? 125 00:05:17,025 --> 00:05:19,319 - Atwood is a master at cherry-picking 126 00:05:19,361 --> 00:05:22,572 psychological principles to support cops. 127 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:25,450 No one on this list has a chance against him. 128 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:28,578 - You know anyone who can beat him? 129 00:05:29,662 --> 00:05:34,292 - Only one person, me. 130 00:05:39,422 --> 00:05:41,591 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 131 00:05:41,633 --> 00:05:44,678 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 132 00:05:44,719 --> 00:05:46,471 - The atmosphere is tense outside this D.C. 133 00:05:46,513 --> 00:05:47,806 courtroom today. 134 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:49,724 Protests, as you can see behind me, 135 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:53,019 are mounting as Mason Hill-Jones's civil lawsuit 136 00:05:53,061 --> 00:05:54,521 looms over the city. 137 00:05:54,562 --> 00:05:56,856 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 138 00:05:56,898 --> 00:06:00,110 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 139 00:06:00,151 --> 00:06:03,530 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 140 00:06:03,571 --> 00:06:04,656 Justice for Joshua! 141 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:06,491 - This is where we part ways. 142 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:07,992 Good luck in there today. 143 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:09,762 - The facts of the case and psychological data 144 00:06:09,786 --> 00:06:11,287 speak for themselves. 145 00:06:11,329 --> 00:06:12,515 You go out there and make some noise. 146 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:14,708 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 147 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:18,169 Justice for Joshua! Justice for Joshua! 148 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:19,796 Justice for Joshua! 149 00:06:27,429 --> 00:06:28,638 - Mercer. 150 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,016 Hey, it's been a while. 151 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:32,892 - Dustin, long time. 152 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:34,561 - Too long. 153 00:06:34,602 --> 00:06:38,273 Well, looks like we are a pretty big deal. 154 00:06:38,314 --> 00:06:40,692 - I got to say, I'm surprised to see you here. 155 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:42,819 You know, I certainly hope they paid you a fortune, 156 00:06:42,861 --> 00:06:46,239 because taking an L on such a high-profile trial would not 157 00:06:46,281 --> 00:06:48,074 be good for your future quote. 158 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:50,177 - I'm more concerned with the case than my batting average. 159 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:52,996 But if I get in trouble, I could do what you do... 160 00:06:53,038 --> 00:06:56,041 Twist the science and sound folksy. 161 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:57,334 Folksy? 162 00:06:59,377 --> 00:07:00,420 See you inside, Mercer. 163 00:07:00,462 --> 00:07:03,423 "Folksy." 164 00:07:03,465 --> 00:07:05,967 That's a good one. 165 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:14,559 - Hey. 166 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:15,685 We need to go. 167 00:07:15,727 --> 00:07:16,811 Hello? - Sorry. 168 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:18,438 Could you hold a second? Hey. 169 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,665 I just got ahold of the witness list 170 00:07:19,689 --> 00:07:20,732 for the Hill-Jones case. 171 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:23,443 Joy Reid wants Alec and Atwood. 172 00:07:23,485 --> 00:07:24,986 - That's really exciting. 173 00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:26,571 Only, the professor said he's not 174 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:27,989 doing interviews about this trial, 175 00:07:28,031 --> 00:07:30,658 and he's not giving Atwood free press. 176 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:33,161 - But aren't these cases won in the media? 177 00:07:33,203 --> 00:07:34,579 - It's not my call. 178 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:35,789 Let him down nicely. 179 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:37,332 We have work to do. 180 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:03,358 - All rise. 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,027 Docket number 125432, 182 00:08:06,069 --> 00:08:09,280 Mason Hill-Jones versus the District of Columbia, 183 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:11,491 Judge Jane Yuun presiding. 184 00:08:15,286 --> 00:08:16,955 - District Attorney Navarro, 185 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:20,250 your office requested the no-knock warrant. 186 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:22,752 Why was that necessary? 187 00:08:22,794 --> 00:08:25,380 - We received a tip that an illegal gun dealer 188 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,757 was working out of a house on the same street 189 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:29,384 as Mason and Joshua. 190 00:08:29,426 --> 00:08:31,219 I filed for a no-knock warrant. 191 00:08:31,261 --> 00:08:34,222 The VIPER squad was tasked with a high-risk arrest. 192 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:36,474 - But they ended up at the wrong house. 193 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:37,767 - Correct. 194 00:08:37,809 --> 00:08:39,936 - Why was that? 195 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:43,857 - There was a typo on the warrant. 196 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:49,112 - Judge Haynes, you signed the warrant? 197 00:08:49,154 --> 00:08:50,363 - Yes. 198 00:08:50,405 --> 00:08:52,907 After reviewing the warrant from DA Navarro, 199 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:55,577 I believed a no-knock raid was necessary given 200 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:56,786 the target's threat level. 201 00:08:56,828 --> 00:08:58,246 - So how did the VIPER squad end up 202 00:08:58,288 --> 00:08:59,748 at the plaintiff's house? 203 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:01,541 - I wish I could tell you. 204 00:09:01,583 --> 00:09:06,129 It appears to have been a very tragic case of human error. 205 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:09,507 - Miss Styles, you're the court clerk 206 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,426 who processed the warrant, correct? 207 00:09:11,468 --> 00:09:13,011 - Yes. 208 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:14,864 - Can you explain how this human error happened? 209 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:16,973 - Our systems had been down for over a week, 210 00:09:17,015 --> 00:09:21,102 so we were processing warrants manually. 211 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,730 I must have made a mistake when I wrote it up. 212 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:27,609 - And you were the only one reprimanded for this incident? 213 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:30,153 - Yes, I was fired. 214 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:33,365 - See, Miss Styles may have been the only one fired, 215 00:09:33,406 --> 00:09:36,117 but she wasn't the only person to make a mistake... 216 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:39,788 More than a mistake, a dereliction of duty. 217 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:41,456 Now, let's take a look at who exactly 218 00:09:41,498 --> 00:09:45,001 was sent to this wrong address, 219 00:09:45,043 --> 00:09:47,796 basically a kill squad. 220 00:09:47,837 --> 00:09:51,424 - My husband was up late working in his office. 221 00:09:51,466 --> 00:09:52,967 I went to bed around midnight. 222 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:55,136 It was about 2:20 a.m. when I hear 223 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:57,222 this loud crash downstairs. 224 00:09:58,348 --> 00:09:59,766 The force was so strong. 225 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:01,702 I could feel it in our bedroom, like a car had just 226 00:10:01,726 --> 00:10:02,644 run through the front door. 227 00:10:02,686 --> 00:10:05,355 Stay here. 228 00:10:05,397 --> 00:10:06,898 The next thing I heard was gunfire. 229 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:11,236 I didn't think it would ever stop. 230 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:13,822 - Your husband was a building inspector. 231 00:10:13,863 --> 00:10:15,615 Is that right? - Yes, he was. 232 00:10:15,657 --> 00:10:18,618 - And you said your husband was working at 2:00 a.m. 233 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:22,330 Is it typical for a building inspector to be up so late? 234 00:10:22,372 --> 00:10:23,206 - Sometimes. 235 00:10:23,248 --> 00:10:24,666 What kind of question is that? 236 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:27,836 - Court records state the two of you had been fighting. 237 00:10:27,877 --> 00:10:29,004 Is that correct? 238 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:30,380 - Objection, Your Honor. 239 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:31,673 Relevance? 240 00:10:31,715 --> 00:10:33,842 - I'm getting to Joshua's state of mind 241 00:10:33,883 --> 00:10:35,885 when he encountered those officers. 242 00:10:35,927 --> 00:10:38,888 - I'll allow it. 243 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:40,366 - He'd been working late, and it was causing 244 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:43,893 some issues between us, but it wasn't a big deal. 245 00:10:43,935 --> 00:10:47,105 - So there was tension in the home? 246 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,024 - No. - You had been fighting. 247 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:50,442 He'd been staying up all night. 248 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,736 It's possible, due to a lack of sleep, 249 00:10:52,777 --> 00:10:54,738 while in a state of rage, 250 00:10:54,779 --> 00:10:57,365 Joshua Hill-Jones charged those officers 251 00:10:57,407 --> 00:10:58,575 leaving them no choice. 252 00:10:58,616 --> 00:10:59,617 - Objection, Your Honor. 253 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,327 The defense is speculating. 254 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:02,871 - Plaintiff will answer the question. 255 00:11:02,912 --> 00:11:04,831 - Joshua was afraid, OK? 256 00:11:04,873 --> 00:11:07,542 You may not think that Black men gets scared, but we do. 257 00:11:07,584 --> 00:11:10,045 Those cops came into our house at 2:00 a.m., 258 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:11,546 and they never announced themselves 259 00:11:11,588 --> 00:11:12,732 like they were supposed to do. 260 00:11:12,756 --> 00:11:14,257 We did nothing wrong. 261 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:15,884 They were looking to kill somebody, 262 00:11:15,925 --> 00:11:18,428 and they killed my husband! 263 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:23,391 - Please state your name and title for the court. 264 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:26,644 - I'm Sergeant Lawrence Powell, team leader 265 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:30,357 of the Violent Incident Person Evaluation and Response Unit. 266 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:32,233 - Can you explain to the court the events 267 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:34,944 that led to your team shooting an unarmed man? 268 00:11:34,986 --> 00:11:36,237 - Objection, Your Honor. 269 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:37,822 - I'll rephrase. 270 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:41,076 Please detail what transpired once the VIPER Squad arrived 271 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:42,744 at the Hill-Jones residence. 272 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:45,246 - The resident charged at us. 273 00:11:45,288 --> 00:11:46,724 We were told we were walking into the home 274 00:11:46,748 --> 00:11:48,500 of a dangerous arms dealer. 275 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:50,752 We thought he had a weapon and opened fire 276 00:11:50,794 --> 00:11:51,836 to protect ourselves. 277 00:11:59,177 --> 00:12:01,096 - You didn't fire your weapon, correct? 278 00:12:01,137 --> 00:12:03,640 - I didn't need to, because the rest of my squad 279 00:12:03,682 --> 00:12:05,517 had neutralized the threat. 280 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:07,102 - And by neutralized the threat, 281 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:08,895 you mean they had killed Joshua? 282 00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:11,147 - We followed protocol and immediately 283 00:12:11,189 --> 00:12:13,775 sought medical attention for Mr. Hill-Jones, 284 00:12:13,817 --> 00:12:17,362 but it was too late. 285 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:20,532 - There's a widely held psychological misconception... 286 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:23,284 A false belief contradicted by scientific evidence... 287 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:26,204 That cops constantly get into firefights. 288 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:32,377 But 73% never fire their gun once in their entire careers. 289 00:12:32,419 --> 00:12:34,421 - Why is this important to note, Dr. Mercer? 290 00:12:34,462 --> 00:12:36,756 - One of the things this data shows is, 291 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:39,551 there are many ways to de-escalate 292 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,886 a dangerous situation. 293 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:44,180 - Dr. Mercer can trot out shooting stats 294 00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:46,766 all he wants, but we have to look at this incident 295 00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:48,643 from the perspective of the officers. 296 00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:52,856 They walked into that house expecting an armed criminal 297 00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:54,566 who might kill them. 298 00:12:54,607 --> 00:12:57,402 And yet three out of the four officers entering Joshua 299 00:12:57,444 --> 00:13:00,155 and Mason's house fired their gun at an unarmed man. 300 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:02,365 Why is the VIPER Squad so much more violent? 301 00:13:02,407 --> 00:13:04,242 They have the highest shoot rate. 302 00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:07,037 In three years, they've shot 12 people, killing 5. 303 00:13:07,078 --> 00:13:09,164 - Research shows that once a person fires 304 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:11,499 in the line of duty, the psychological barrier 305 00:13:11,541 --> 00:13:14,336 to doing so drops significantly. 306 00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:16,504 It becomes easier for them to shoot again. 307 00:13:16,546 --> 00:13:19,758 And do these no-knock raids push the statistical risk 308 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,217 even higher? 309 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:24,262 - Yes, given every member of the VIPER squad 310 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:27,640 had fired multiple times in the past, that raid was 311 00:13:27,682 --> 00:13:29,726 a disaster waiting to happen. 312 00:13:29,768 --> 00:13:32,354 - The VIPER squad is a tactical unit. 313 00:13:32,395 --> 00:13:35,106 Is it possible their shoot rate is higher 314 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,400 because they encounter more dangerous situations? 315 00:13:37,442 --> 00:13:40,195 - The VIPER squad's record is such an outlier 316 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,739 it's hard to justify simply by the situations 317 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:44,282 they find themselves in. 318 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:46,868 - Sounds to me like you're cherry-picking the data. 319 00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:48,036 - Objection. 320 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:52,916 - Can you explain what happens to the brain 321 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:55,085 in such an intense experience? 322 00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:57,003 - It's a fight-or-flight response. 323 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:58,254 We've all felt it. 324 00:13:58,296 --> 00:14:00,215 In emergencies, the amygdala sends 325 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:03,593 a distress signal that floods the body and brain 326 00:14:03,635 --> 00:14:05,220 with survival hormones. 327 00:14:05,261 --> 00:14:08,640 Under those circumstances, any officer 328 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:09,974 could have taken the shot. 329 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:12,727 - Is it true there is no specific research studying 330 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:16,064 an officer's brain chemistry during a shooting incident 331 00:14:16,106 --> 00:14:17,482 to back up your testimony? 332 00:14:17,524 --> 00:14:19,818 - Well, there's simply no plausible way 333 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,946 to gather that information, even in simulation. 334 00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:24,531 - But you have used your position 335 00:14:24,572 --> 00:14:27,033 to block any attempt from researchers to gather 336 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:28,410 that data and run those tests. 337 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:30,995 Isn't that right, Dr. Atwood? 338 00:14:31,037 --> 00:14:33,623 - Well, the fact is, we haven't really 339 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:36,793 needed those studies, because there's plenty of research 340 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:38,712 on humans under stress. 341 00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:40,171 And the last time I checked, 342 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:44,592 cops are humans who are willing to risk their lives 343 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:49,347 to protect you and me. 344 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,891 - Atwood recovered, but we got a jab in there. 345 00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:52,892 What do you think? 346 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:54,310 - Hard to tell. 347 00:14:54,352 --> 00:14:56,187 I was tracking the jurors' body language. 348 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:58,940 They went cold during Mason's testimony, 349 00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:00,483 often avoiding eye contact. 350 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:03,778 And they didn't even seem fazed by the cops' haste 351 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:06,781 nor the mistakes made processing the warrant. 352 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:09,951 - So we're screwed. 353 00:15:09,993 --> 00:15:11,286 - Everything OK? 354 00:15:11,327 --> 00:15:13,872 - No, everything's not OK. 355 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,498 - Alec's testimony didn't help? 356 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,625 - I don't think it was enough to win over the jury. 357 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,503 - This jury won't be swayed by science. 358 00:15:20,545 --> 00:15:23,131 Start with juror preconceived bias. 359 00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:24,716 - What's that? 360 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:27,469 - In a lot of trials, jurors walk in irrationally 361 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:30,263 predisposed to a particular verdict... in this case, 362 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:32,307 one that favors the cops. 363 00:15:32,349 --> 00:15:34,100 - Then how do you persuade a jury whose 364 00:15:34,142 --> 00:15:35,518 minds are already made up? 365 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,563 - We need to find a new approach or Mason loses. 366 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:49,495 - I haven't even made funeral arrangements yet. 367 00:15:50,325 --> 00:15:53,745 And here you are digging up stuff from the past. 368 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:56,122 Peter was a good boy. 369 00:15:56,164 --> 00:15:57,916 - He blew up a church, Mrs. Shelby. 370 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:02,170 If he had good intentions, help us understand. 371 00:16:02,212 --> 00:16:04,422 - I don't know what you're talking about. 372 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:06,508 - Are you aware that your son belonged 373 00:16:06,549 --> 00:16:08,301 to a terrorist organization? 374 00:16:08,343 --> 00:16:09,761 Terrorist? 375 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:12,389 You government types only labeled the New Apostles 376 00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:14,015 terrorists after 9/11. 377 00:16:14,057 --> 00:16:17,560 Thanks to you people, I haven't seen him for 20 years. 378 00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,104 - Your son ran because he set off 379 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:20,897 a bomb that killed 13 people. 380 00:16:20,939 --> 00:16:21,898 He's no martyr. 381 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:23,233 He's a murderer. 382 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:24,734 - Don't talk about him like that. 383 00:16:24,776 --> 00:16:26,736 - He was a sinner who desecrated the House of God. 384 00:16:26,778 --> 00:16:28,446 - It was an accident. 385 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:30,782 All he wanted to do was return this country to its roots, 386 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:33,743 to make us moral, God-fearing people again. 387 00:16:33,785 --> 00:16:37,288 - So you did speak to him about the church bombing? 388 00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:52,637 - Let me ask you something. 389 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,641 Do you think the justice system treats all Americans equally? 390 00:16:59,102 --> 00:17:00,645 - There are two systems, 391 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:03,606 one when you are poor or Black, 392 00:17:03,648 --> 00:17:06,234 another when you are middle class or white. 393 00:17:06,276 --> 00:17:08,111 And there might be a third... 394 00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:09,213 Another for the super-rich. 395 00:17:09,237 --> 00:17:11,740 They get away with everything. 396 00:17:11,781 --> 00:17:13,867 - What would it take to convince you otherwise? 397 00:17:13,908 --> 00:17:16,077 - A word from God Himself. 398 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,413 Otherwise, those are the facts. 399 00:17:18,455 --> 00:17:19,748 - That's the crux of our problem. 400 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:22,417 Not everyone grows up being profiled 401 00:17:22,459 --> 00:17:24,377 or constantly pulled over. 402 00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:27,464 Those same people want to believe in equal justice. 403 00:17:27,505 --> 00:17:29,966 - People need to open their eyes. 404 00:17:30,008 --> 00:17:32,552 - Harder than you think because of motivated reasoning. 405 00:17:32,594 --> 00:17:34,471 When people have a belief, they usually connect 406 00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:36,306 to ideas that support it. 407 00:17:36,348 --> 00:17:39,100 That's the headspace most of the jurors are in. 408 00:17:39,142 --> 00:17:41,186 - So there's nothing we can do? 409 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:42,812 I'm out there protesting every day, 410 00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:45,648 and you're saying none of that will make things better? 411 00:17:47,192 --> 00:17:49,527 - Better. 412 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:52,322 That might be the key. 413 00:17:52,364 --> 00:17:54,407 A person can believe in something, 414 00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:56,201 like I believe in science, but there's 415 00:17:56,242 --> 00:18:00,580 always room for improvement. 416 00:18:00,622 --> 00:18:03,833 What if I tell the jury that they can make things better, 417 00:18:03,875 --> 00:18:08,254 we find one thing that they can improve by siding with Mason, 418 00:18:08,296 --> 00:18:10,715 make the whole case about that? 419 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:14,260 Broken is too hard a sell, so we sell better. 420 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:17,305 - I'd buy that. 421 00:18:21,893 --> 00:18:23,186 What are you doing now? 422 00:18:23,228 --> 00:18:24,562 - I'm calling Phoebe and Rizwan. 423 00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:27,107 I got an idea for an experiment. 424 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:29,943 Yesterday Dr. Atwood's testimony 425 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:32,737 appeared fair and unbiased. 426 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:36,199 The problem is, with paid experts 427 00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:39,244 like Dr. Atwood, that's never the case. 428 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:41,830 Introducing money creates bias. 429 00:18:41,871 --> 00:18:44,958 I wanted to better understand how this bias works, 430 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,712 so I conducted an experiment where I paid experts 431 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:52,007 to give their opinion on a fictional case, 432 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:54,426 a slip and fall in a hotel. 433 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:57,053 All of them had the same facts in the case. 434 00:18:57,095 --> 00:18:58,555 The only difference? 435 00:18:58,596 --> 00:19:02,225 Which side the person was on paying them. 436 00:19:02,267 --> 00:19:06,896 Almost all the experts argued for the side paying them. 437 00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:09,607 If the defense paid, the expert's opinion 438 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:11,359 sided with the defense. 439 00:19:11,401 --> 00:19:13,987 Same for the plaintiff. 440 00:19:14,029 --> 00:19:15,572 That's bias. 441 00:19:15,613 --> 00:19:18,199 And it makes you question the motivation 442 00:19:18,241 --> 00:19:20,368 behind Dr. Atwood's testimony. 443 00:19:20,410 --> 00:19:21,369 - Objection. 444 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:23,079 - I'll move on. 445 00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:25,874 In your scientific opinion, how do we remedy this bias? 446 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:31,004 - We have a wonderful system, in theory... 447 00:19:31,046 --> 00:19:34,758 Equal justice for all, but it's not perfect... 448 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,051 Yet. 449 00:19:36,092 --> 00:19:42,390 People tend to say it's only a few bad apples, 450 00:19:42,432 --> 00:19:46,603 but those bad apples spoil the whole bunch. 451 00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:49,689 Juries like this one have the chance 452 00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:53,860 to get rid of the bad apples and protect the bunch. 453 00:19:53,902 --> 00:19:57,447 - Dr. Mercer, you work as a consultant. 454 00:19:57,489 --> 00:19:58,448 Is that right? 455 00:19:58,490 --> 00:19:59,908 - I'm a professor first. 456 00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:02,786 But yes, sometimes I work as a consultant. 457 00:20:02,827 --> 00:20:05,330 - And when you do consult, you're paid 458 00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:07,415 upwards of $100,000 a day? 459 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:08,750 - Depending on the client. 460 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:11,336 For this, I'm not making a dime. 461 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:20,261 "I'm not making a dime." 462 00:20:20,303 --> 00:20:21,638 Boom. 463 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,973 I wish I could have seen it. 464 00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:25,433 - We need five jurors. 465 00:20:25,475 --> 00:20:27,769 We have four with two possibilities. 466 00:20:27,811 --> 00:20:30,980 - That's one juror closer to a win. 467 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,322 Cop's behind me. 468 00:20:39,364 --> 00:20:40,490 He's going to pull me over. 469 00:20:43,368 --> 00:20:44,703 I knew it. 470 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:46,138 - Pull over to the side of the road. 471 00:20:46,162 --> 00:20:47,122 - Stay calm. 472 00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:49,040 Let me talk. 473 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:50,417 - I don't need instructions. 474 00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:54,546 I know the damn drill. 475 00:21:10,395 --> 00:21:11,715 - License and registration, ma'am. 476 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:28,288 - You drifted over the solid white line. 477 00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:29,372 You been drinking tonight? 478 00:21:33,126 --> 00:21:35,587 - Nope, just Diet Coke. 479 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:36,689 - So you wouldn't mind submitting 480 00:21:36,713 --> 00:21:38,173 to a field sobriety test then? 481 00:21:40,091 --> 00:21:42,969 - Nothing would make my evening more complete. 482 00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:52,354 - I'm going to need you to walk in a straight line, 483 00:21:52,395 --> 00:21:53,897 one foot behind the other, 484 00:21:53,938 --> 00:21:58,401 counting down from 1,001 by 3s. 485 00:22:04,282 --> 00:22:06,534 - 1,001, 486 00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:12,290 998, 995... 487 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:15,043 Is this really necessary? 488 00:22:18,046 --> 00:22:19,547 - Keep counting. 489 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:23,968 - No part of this calls for a gun. 490 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:25,804 She's shaking with adrenaline. 491 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,281 He's going to make her count backwards 492 00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:28,640 until she stumbles forward. 493 00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:30,767 - No one is talking to you. 494 00:22:30,809 --> 00:22:33,603 He's dealing with your sister. 495 00:22:33,645 --> 00:22:35,271 - You know she's my sister? 496 00:22:35,313 --> 00:22:37,148 This wasn't random? 497 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,442 You're targeting us? 498 00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:41,486 - She crossed the lane divider without signaling. 499 00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:43,405 - We both know what this is about. 500 00:22:43,446 --> 00:22:44,823 She's got nothing to do with it. 501 00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:47,992 You can take me in if you want and deal 502 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:52,664 with cleaning up that mess in the press, 503 00:22:52,706 --> 00:22:54,708 or let her go. 504 00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:01,172 - Hey. 505 00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:02,214 She clear? 506 00:23:05,844 --> 00:23:08,096 - I'm not sure yet. 507 00:23:08,138 --> 00:23:09,514 - She seems fine. 508 00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:11,182 Let's get out of here. 509 00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:32,370 - Hey. 510 00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:33,872 Catch you at a bad time? 511 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:37,417 - Even if you did, it wouldn't matter. 512 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:40,170 Bob Caswood, come in? 513 00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:43,340 To what do I owe this surprise visit? 514 00:23:43,381 --> 00:23:46,676 Something I can help the intelligence division with? 515 00:23:46,718 --> 00:23:47,886 There's no agenda. 516 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,138 Just stopped by for a little chat. 517 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:52,390 - I worked under you for ten years. 518 00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:54,100 You don't just stop by. 519 00:23:54,142 --> 00:23:55,643 You're a busy man. 520 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:58,063 So why did you take the time out of your day to come here? 521 00:23:58,104 --> 00:23:59,647 Always the investigator? 522 00:23:59,689 --> 00:24:01,983 - Someone taught me well. 523 00:24:02,025 --> 00:24:03,234 - Fine. 524 00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:05,070 Well, I'll just come right out and say it. 525 00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:07,238 Now, you know that I like to keep my ear 526 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,407 close to the street, and there's been 527 00:24:09,449 --> 00:24:12,243 rumblings about you and Jace. 528 00:24:14,371 --> 00:24:16,289 - That was fast. 529 00:24:16,331 --> 00:24:17,916 - We are intelligence. 530 00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:21,211 - It's not like we're the first agents at the Bureau 531 00:24:21,252 --> 00:24:22,462 to get involved. 532 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:25,507 We don't have many opportunities off the job. 533 00:24:25,548 --> 00:24:26,925 - I get it. 534 00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:28,426 I just wouldn't be a good friend if I 535 00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:30,512 didn't give you a heads-up. 536 00:24:30,553 --> 00:24:32,597 - Everything is a conflict. 537 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:34,265 Now it's about me dating Jace. 538 00:24:34,307 --> 00:24:36,768 Someone going to question my involvement 539 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:38,311 in Alec's case next? 540 00:24:39,729 --> 00:24:41,439 - Maybe. 541 00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:45,026 Hey, it's not my call, but if you want justice to play out, 542 00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:46,695 I would avoid doing anything that 543 00:24:46,736 --> 00:24:49,739 would compromise the investigation, 544 00:24:49,781 --> 00:24:51,366 because like most things in life... 545 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:53,493 - It's the optics. 546 00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:55,704 - It's the optics. 547 00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:59,332 - Where you are. 548 00:24:59,374 --> 00:25:01,459 - I don't have the problem. - Classism. Classism. 549 00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:02,669 You are constantly... 550 00:25:02,711 --> 00:25:04,587 - Someone needs to check her. - Hey. 551 00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:14,305 Don't go there with me. 552 00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:15,390 - Excuse you. 553 00:25:15,432 --> 00:25:17,392 I'm watching that. 554 00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:19,034 - You've been watching this trash since I 555 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:20,186 went to bed last night. 556 00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:21,229 - OK. 557 00:25:21,271 --> 00:25:22,647 Where's the problem? 558 00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:24,065 - Studies show... 559 00:25:24,107 --> 00:25:26,359 - I'll pass on the Mercer monologue. 560 00:25:26,401 --> 00:25:30,447 - Fine, no monologue. 561 00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:31,823 But we should talk about this. 562 00:25:31,865 --> 00:25:36,661 - No, we shouldn't, because I'll scream. 563 00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:39,622 And I don't want to scream at you, 564 00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:40,957 but you're the only one here. 565 00:25:40,999 --> 00:25:43,460 So I will if you force me to talk about my feelings 566 00:25:43,501 --> 00:25:45,003 right now. 567 00:25:45,045 --> 00:25:48,840 All I want to do is watch "Housewives of Potomac" 568 00:25:48,882 --> 00:25:51,885 and focus on other people's problems. 569 00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:58,099 - You'd rather suppress your feelings 570 00:25:58,141 --> 00:26:00,894 by watching housewives throw lettuce at each other. 571 00:26:03,063 --> 00:26:05,065 You can't help yourself, can you? 572 00:26:07,317 --> 00:26:11,488 - It probably isn't a good idea, but OK. 573 00:26:11,529 --> 00:26:13,281 - Mia, I don't believe that you called us 574 00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:14,699 broke bitches when you walked off. 575 00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:17,470 - Are you serious right now? - Let's do it. 576 00:26:17,494 --> 00:26:20,538 Let's give a toast to forgiveness. 577 00:26:22,874 --> 00:26:23,833 - Hey, Mason. 578 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:26,044 What's up? 579 00:26:26,086 --> 00:26:29,381 I'll be right there. 580 00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,758 - Mason OK? 581 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,761 - The defense made an offer. 582 00:26:34,803 --> 00:26:37,013 They want to settle the case. 583 00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,727 - 3 million is a good offer. 584 00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:44,187 - Is it? 585 00:26:44,229 --> 00:26:46,040 It's like they're forcing me to decide how much 586 00:26:46,064 --> 00:26:47,774 my dead husband is worth. 587 00:26:47,816 --> 00:26:48,817 So what? 588 00:26:48,858 --> 00:26:50,360 It's over now? 589 00:26:50,402 --> 00:26:52,112 Nothing about this makes any sense. 590 00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:53,405 Alec got through to the jury, 591 00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:54,781 pushed this settlement to happen. 592 00:26:54,823 --> 00:26:56,408 This is what we wanted. 593 00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:58,827 There's no such thing as good news in this situation, 594 00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:00,954 but we need to take this offer seriously. 595 00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:02,414 - Defense makes an offer. 596 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:04,015 They know it doesn't look good for them. 597 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,834 - And we could still be short a juror. 598 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:07,460 My advice, we don't chance it. 599 00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:09,879 How about we look over the deal and counter? 600 00:27:09,921 --> 00:27:12,882 We can print it and review it line by line. 601 00:27:12,924 --> 00:27:15,385 - The printers in Joshua's office. 602 00:27:15,427 --> 00:27:18,471 I haven't touched anything there since. 603 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:22,350 - We can go in with you. 604 00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:40,452 - That yours? 605 00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:41,828 Kylie said you played in college. 606 00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:43,955 - I haven't picked it up in years. 607 00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:45,832 - You miss it? 608 00:27:45,874 --> 00:27:48,001 - Sometimes. 609 00:27:48,043 --> 00:27:49,961 - There's a lot of paperwork in here. 610 00:27:50,003 --> 00:27:51,421 He worked from home a lot? 611 00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:53,089 - A few weeks before everything happened, 612 00:27:53,131 --> 00:27:54,966 he brought home all these files in crates, 613 00:27:55,008 --> 00:27:57,844 said he was doing important research. 614 00:27:57,886 --> 00:27:59,637 - He say what he was working on? 615 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,015 - Something about zoning violations and the city 616 00:28:02,057 --> 00:28:03,975 not doing anything about them. 617 00:28:04,017 --> 00:28:05,477 Joshua was obsessed. 618 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:07,645 - So he wasn't always a workaholic. 619 00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:09,022 - No. 620 00:28:09,064 --> 00:28:11,900 He cared about his work, but not like this. 621 00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:13,651 He was so frustrated. 622 00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:19,991 He kept saying something about the system working against him 623 00:28:20,033 --> 00:28:22,243 and that he was going to prove it. 624 00:28:22,285 --> 00:28:24,996 I just thought he was overreacting. 625 00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:28,041 He said it made him feel like he was crazy. 626 00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:29,393 - You think it has something to do with the case? 627 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:30,502 - I don't know. 628 00:28:30,543 --> 00:28:31,836 But if he had something to prove, 629 00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:33,118 it's possible he made an enemy. 630 00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:40,011 It looks like Joshua was investigating code 631 00:28:40,053 --> 00:28:42,889 violations against one company in particular, 632 00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:44,391 Ralbern Investments. 633 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:47,477 - Ralbern is a huge multinational. 634 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,854 I've done contract work for them. 635 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:51,481 - These are building codes. 636 00:28:51,523 --> 00:28:54,025 Next to them are the violations against Ralbern repeated 637 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:55,527 multiple times. 638 00:28:55,568 --> 00:28:57,088 - What does this have to do with my husband? 639 00:28:57,112 --> 00:28:59,030 - Nearly half of Ralbern's security 640 00:28:59,072 --> 00:29:01,199 staff are moonlighting D.C. Metro Police, 641 00:29:01,241 --> 00:29:02,617 Sergeant Powell included. 642 00:29:02,659 --> 00:29:04,661 Joshua was building a case against them 643 00:29:04,703 --> 00:29:08,289 issuing the same violations against them over and over. 644 00:29:08,331 --> 00:29:09,558 - That must have pissed them off. 645 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,251 - You're saying they targeted Joshua? 646 00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:13,503 - You said that Joshua felt like the system was 647 00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:17,132 against him, and the system killed him. 648 00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:20,260 - You think Sergeant Powell deliberately 649 00:29:20,301 --> 00:29:26,141 took his team to our home to take him off of Ralbern? 650 00:29:26,182 --> 00:29:30,520 - I'm saying I think your husband was murdered. 651 00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:41,573 - Anything from Ralbern yet? 652 00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:42,800 - I've been on hold for over two hours. 653 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,464 I still haven't spoken to anyone in legal. 654 00:29:44,492 --> 00:29:45,952 - You're not going to get through. 655 00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:47,704 They have a 100-person legal team. 656 00:29:47,746 --> 00:29:49,289 This trial will be long over before we 657 00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:51,416 navigate that legal minefield. 658 00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:54,419 - We need a way to approach the VIPER team. 659 00:29:54,461 --> 00:29:58,214 - Maybe there's a way to get one of them to come to us. 660 00:29:58,256 --> 00:30:00,216 Rizwan, call Joy Reid's producers back. 661 00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:02,385 Tell them I'm going to give them what they want, 662 00:30:02,427 --> 00:30:04,179 a sit-down with Atwood. 663 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,809 - Moving on to the Hill-Jones trial, 664 00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:13,521 an unarmed innocent man was shot in his own living room. 665 00:30:13,563 --> 00:30:16,649 It should never have happened, but was it negligence? 666 00:30:16,691 --> 00:30:20,153 We've got not one but two distinguished expert 667 00:30:20,195 --> 00:30:23,198 witnesses here tonight, Dr. Dustin Atwood 668 00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:24,824 and Dr. Alec Mercer. 669 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:26,326 Dustin, you say no. 670 00:30:26,368 --> 00:30:28,244 - No, it was not negligence. 671 00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:29,996 Now, of course, I wish this tragedy had 672 00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:31,664 not happened, as we all do. 673 00:30:31,706 --> 00:30:34,459 But when you consider the information the officers had, 674 00:30:34,501 --> 00:30:36,795 they had every reason to believe 675 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:38,296 their lives were in danger. 676 00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:40,006 - Alec, you say yes. 677 00:30:40,048 --> 00:30:43,968 As police officers, their job was to assess and reassess 678 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,679 that danger moment by moment. 679 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,347 - There was no time to reassess. 680 00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:49,349 Any good cop would have taken a shot 681 00:30:49,391 --> 00:30:50,558 under those circumstances. 682 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,393 - Any cop? 683 00:30:51,434 --> 00:30:52,811 Wiggins didn't shoot. 684 00:30:52,852 --> 00:30:55,355 Officer Wiggins didn't even draw his gun. 685 00:30:55,397 --> 00:30:57,273 If any good cop would have taken that shot, 686 00:30:57,315 --> 00:30:58,650 is he not a good cop? 687 00:30:58,692 --> 00:30:59,734 - I didn't say that. 688 00:30:59,776 --> 00:31:01,403 - Was he the negligent one? 689 00:31:01,444 --> 00:31:03,905 - Are you criticizing an officer for not shooting? 690 00:31:03,947 --> 00:31:06,449 - I'm just trying to understand your point of view. 691 00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:09,285 You've said over and over that those cops did the right thing. 692 00:31:09,327 --> 00:31:11,746 Well, that must mean Wiggins did the wrong thing. 693 00:31:11,788 --> 00:31:13,415 No? 694 00:31:13,456 --> 00:31:15,542 - You raise a very interesting question there, Alec. 695 00:31:15,583 --> 00:31:17,877 - Obviously, my friend here is being hyperbolic, Joy. 696 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,839 - Would you say Wiggins isn't VIPER squad material? 697 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,215 Does he need more training? 698 00:31:22,257 --> 00:31:23,591 I don't know. 699 00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:26,052 Maybe Wiggins should find another job. 700 00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:27,303 - I... I told you. 701 00:31:27,345 --> 00:31:29,723 I don't know anything. 702 00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:33,143 - Withholding information about the bombing... 703 00:31:33,184 --> 00:31:35,854 That's obstruction on 13 murders, 704 00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:38,565 arson, and terrorism. 705 00:31:38,606 --> 00:31:41,484 Could get you a lot of jail time. 706 00:31:45,113 --> 00:31:49,200 - He said no one was supposed to die. 707 00:31:49,242 --> 00:31:51,453 He only wanted to get the church. 708 00:31:51,494 --> 00:31:54,039 It was six months after 9/11. 709 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,124 And those Methodists were loaning 710 00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:57,917 their church to a mosque. 711 00:31:57,959 --> 00:31:59,044 - So what happened? 712 00:31:59,085 --> 00:32:00,795 - I only know what he told me. 713 00:32:00,837 --> 00:32:05,383 He said he was supposed to set the bomb timer for 60 minutes, 714 00:32:05,425 --> 00:32:10,096 and he accidentally set it for 60 seconds. 715 00:32:10,138 --> 00:32:11,598 - Wait. 716 00:32:11,639 --> 00:32:16,227 So you're saying that the murder of 13 people 717 00:32:16,269 --> 00:32:17,812 was a mistake? 718 00:32:19,522 --> 00:32:22,901 - Peter was in way over his head. 719 00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:24,611 He didn't build the bomb. 720 00:32:24,652 --> 00:32:28,073 He got it from some guy he met on the internet. 721 00:32:28,114 --> 00:32:29,783 - What guy? 722 00:32:29,824 --> 00:32:31,826 Was it Wes Banning? 723 00:32:31,868 --> 00:32:33,328 - Not him. 724 00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:38,041 This guy was a fancy-looking professional, 725 00:32:38,083 --> 00:32:40,251 called himself Mathias. 726 00:32:43,296 --> 00:32:45,757 - So if what the bomber's mom said was true, 727 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,175 Wes made the bomb. 728 00:32:47,217 --> 00:32:48,760 Peter planted the bomb. 729 00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:54,057 But the third guy, Mathias, was behind it all. 730 00:32:54,099 --> 00:32:55,934 - That's who was at Wes's parole hearing. 731 00:32:55,975 --> 00:32:57,769 - Finding him will not be easy. 732 00:32:57,811 --> 00:32:59,813 - Pamela said he's white, fancy, 733 00:32:59,854 --> 00:33:03,024 fedora, wears a flashy gold watch, probably a Rolex... 734 00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:04,109 Not much to go on. 735 00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:05,652 - Maybe not yet. 736 00:33:05,694 --> 00:33:08,405 But the bomber met Matthias in an online chat room. 737 00:33:08,446 --> 00:33:10,073 That site might be gone, but there's 738 00:33:10,115 --> 00:33:13,993 a company that maintains a database of old websites. 739 00:33:14,035 --> 00:33:15,912 We start there. 740 00:33:32,262 --> 00:33:34,180 - Is this about my interview? 741 00:33:34,222 --> 00:33:35,557 - I didn't shoot anyone. 742 00:33:35,598 --> 00:33:37,934 Why the hell did you crucify me on TV? 743 00:33:37,976 --> 00:33:40,311 - Would you have come to confront me otherwise? 744 00:33:44,858 --> 00:33:49,404 I want to know why you didn't fire your gun. 745 00:33:50,905 --> 00:33:52,532 - I made a judgment call in the moment, 746 00:33:52,574 --> 00:33:54,617 no different from anyone else. 747 00:33:54,659 --> 00:33:56,202 - Let me ask you something. 748 00:33:56,244 --> 00:33:57,912 Are you familiar with Ralbern Investments? 749 00:33:57,954 --> 00:33:59,456 - Yeah. 750 00:33:59,497 --> 00:34:01,183 A lot of officers do work for them on the side. 751 00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:02,584 - Like Powell? 752 00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:03,585 - Yeah. 753 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:05,128 So? 754 00:34:05,170 --> 00:34:08,048 - Could Powell have changed the address to Joshua's house? 755 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:09,341 - No way. 756 00:34:09,382 --> 00:34:10,693 I was there when we got the warrant. 757 00:34:10,717 --> 00:34:12,552 He pinned it to our planning board. 758 00:34:12,594 --> 00:34:16,723 If someone changed it, it wasn't him, wasn't any of us. 759 00:34:16,765 --> 00:34:19,768 - Who else could have touched that warrant? 760 00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:24,064 - I don't know. 761 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:25,231 Ask the clerk. 762 00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:33,448 - You said that you might be able to get my job back? 763 00:34:33,490 --> 00:34:35,742 - There may be a way to clear your name. 764 00:34:35,784 --> 00:34:38,370 Looks like the victim was keeping records 765 00:34:38,411 --> 00:34:40,538 on overturned code violations. 766 00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:43,291 Are you familiar with Ralbern Investments? 767 00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:45,627 - The property development conglomerate? 768 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:49,547 - These are all the violations against Ralbern. 769 00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:51,383 Do you know who would have overturned them? 770 00:34:51,424 --> 00:34:52,801 That's easy. 771 00:34:52,842 --> 00:34:54,928 Judge Haynes handles all those kinds of cases. 772 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:57,555 - The same Judge Haynes who signed the original warrant? 773 00:34:57,597 --> 00:34:59,432 - A quirk of living in D.C... 774 00:34:59,474 --> 00:35:01,226 The same judges do criminal and civil. 775 00:35:15,949 --> 00:35:19,911 - All right, so what's this about, Mercer? 776 00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:21,121 - I talked to Mason. 777 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:22,598 He doesn't want to take the settlement. 778 00:35:22,622 --> 00:35:24,624 It could look like a loss for you. 779 00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:26,209 - Yeah, I guess we'll see. 780 00:35:26,251 --> 00:35:28,169 - But I think I know a way I could convince him, 781 00:35:28,211 --> 00:35:31,548 but turns out, I'm going to need your help. 782 00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:36,845 - So I've got this multifamily development 783 00:35:36,886 --> 00:35:38,513 that I'm renovating in Southeast, 784 00:35:38,555 --> 00:35:41,307 but I keep running into these BS citations 785 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:43,393 over gas line hazards. 786 00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:46,396 - Everyone whines there isn't enough affordable housing. 787 00:35:46,438 --> 00:35:48,565 But they make building codes so costly, 788 00:35:48,606 --> 00:35:50,066 you can't build a damn thing. 789 00:35:50,108 --> 00:35:52,193 - Because the politics always get in the way. 790 00:35:52,235 --> 00:35:55,363 - This country was built by businesses, not regulations. 791 00:35:55,405 --> 00:35:56,823 - That's for sure. 792 00:35:56,865 --> 00:36:00,035 That's why I say, thank God for capitalism. 793 00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:06,708 You know, I golf with Thomas Wilson over at Ralbern. 794 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:10,003 And he says you are a free thinker, 795 00:36:10,045 --> 00:36:12,630 that you don't allow corporate bureaucracy 796 00:36:12,672 --> 00:36:15,717 to get in the way of building the American dream. 797 00:36:18,136 --> 00:36:19,679 - I do what I can. 798 00:36:19,721 --> 00:36:21,240 - And he said I should talk to you about possibly 799 00:36:21,264 --> 00:36:22,891 expediting the process. 800 00:36:22,932 --> 00:36:25,560 You know, I'd love to make a hefty campaign contribution, 801 00:36:25,602 --> 00:36:27,520 but those limits and all... 802 00:36:27,562 --> 00:36:30,982 - You're telling me. 803 00:36:31,024 --> 00:36:32,108 Listen. 804 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:35,111 Why don't we avoid all that red tape? 805 00:36:35,153 --> 00:36:36,529 Put me on retainer. 806 00:36:38,198 --> 00:36:39,407 - Retainer? 807 00:36:39,449 --> 00:36:40,992 Sounds good. 808 00:36:41,034 --> 00:36:42,160 How much? 809 00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:44,579 - For you, $5,000 a month. 810 00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:47,040 - Fair enough. 811 00:36:47,082 --> 00:36:50,001 Let's say I transfer a good faith deposit. 812 00:36:50,043 --> 00:36:51,043 Offshore account? 813 00:36:52,671 --> 00:36:55,965 - I have it all. 814 00:37:01,388 --> 00:37:04,432 - Judge Thaddeus Haynes, there are some people here 815 00:37:04,474 --> 00:37:07,727 who want to speak to you. 816 00:37:09,187 --> 00:37:10,563 - What the hell is going on? 817 00:37:10,605 --> 00:37:14,150 - You have been taking bribes for years 818 00:37:14,192 --> 00:37:15,610 and getting away with it. 819 00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,445 You believed you were invulnerable, 820 00:37:17,487 --> 00:37:19,364 especially after killing a man and almost 821 00:37:19,406 --> 00:37:20,407 getting away with it. 822 00:37:20,448 --> 00:37:21,449 - That's insane. 823 00:37:21,491 --> 00:37:22,951 I didn't kill anyone. 824 00:37:22,992 --> 00:37:25,453 - You had a nice little side hustle taking bribes 825 00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:29,708 from companies like Ralbern to help them skirt around onerous 826 00:37:29,749 --> 00:37:31,960 building regulations. 827 00:37:32,002 --> 00:37:35,046 But there was a fly in the ointment... 828 00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:36,131 Joshua. 829 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,591 He caught on to your side hustle. 830 00:37:38,633 --> 00:37:40,301 You weren't about to go down 831 00:37:40,343 --> 00:37:43,179 because of some over-dedicated building inspector. 832 00:37:43,221 --> 00:37:44,806 But he wouldn't let up. 833 00:37:44,848 --> 00:37:48,476 And then the DA hands you a request 834 00:37:48,518 --> 00:37:49,894 for a no-knock warrant. 835 00:37:49,936 --> 00:37:53,106 And you realize that the location of the suspect 836 00:37:53,148 --> 00:37:56,985 was on the same street as Joshua. 837 00:37:57,027 --> 00:38:00,155 Computers had been down over a week, 838 00:38:00,196 --> 00:38:04,200 so any mistakes could be blamed on human error. 839 00:38:04,242 --> 00:38:07,787 Everything just fell in your lap. 840 00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:09,831 Must have felt like divine providence, 841 00:38:09,873 --> 00:38:11,958 and you seized the moment. 842 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,919 A court clerk gets the warrant, 843 00:38:14,961 --> 00:38:16,629 processes it manually, 844 00:38:16,671 --> 00:38:18,840 and hands it back to you to sign. 845 00:38:18,882 --> 00:38:22,052 That's when you change the address. 846 00:38:22,093 --> 00:38:26,765 You made sure the VIPER squad went to the wrong house, 847 00:38:26,806 --> 00:38:29,726 where Joshua was murdered. 848 00:38:39,819 --> 00:38:42,197 I never thought we'd see eye to eye enough 849 00:38:42,238 --> 00:38:44,616 to work together. 850 00:38:44,657 --> 00:38:45,742 Thank you. 851 00:38:45,784 --> 00:38:47,869 - Hey, got to protect my stats. 852 00:38:47,911 --> 00:38:52,707 - Most humans, when reminded, will do the right thing. 853 00:38:52,749 --> 00:38:55,543 Last I checked, you are human, right? 854 00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:58,046 - You're welcome, Mercer. 855 00:39:07,847 --> 00:39:09,015 - Here you go. 856 00:39:09,057 --> 00:39:11,226 - Thank you. 857 00:39:11,267 --> 00:39:12,727 Wingo called. 858 00:39:12,769 --> 00:39:16,773 Hey says they are dismantling the VIPER squad. 859 00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:18,316 - Well, that's more good news. 860 00:39:20,985 --> 00:39:22,445 - Mason. 861 00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:23,905 - Hey, Dr. Mercer. 862 00:39:23,947 --> 00:39:28,451 I just came over to see Kylie and to say... 863 00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:29,452 Thank you. 864 00:39:29,494 --> 00:39:30,995 - No need. 865 00:39:31,037 --> 00:39:34,207 I'm just glad you got some semblance of justice. 866 00:39:34,249 --> 00:39:35,250 - Strange. 867 00:39:35,291 --> 00:39:37,669 I've all these feelings... 868 00:39:37,711 --> 00:39:42,173 Anger, shock, guilt, but never peace. 869 00:39:43,508 --> 00:39:44,801 - It may never go away. 870 00:39:46,553 --> 00:39:49,264 But you can move past it. 871 00:39:49,305 --> 00:39:50,890 - How? 872 00:39:50,932 --> 00:39:52,350 - There's no one answer. 873 00:39:52,392 --> 00:39:55,937 I don't know what's best for you, Mason. 874 00:39:55,979 --> 00:39:57,647 That'll be for you to explore. 875 00:40:00,483 --> 00:40:01,609 - That's it? 876 00:40:01,651 --> 00:40:04,654 No profound Mercer monologue? 877 00:40:04,696 --> 00:40:06,948 - I'm fresh out of monologues, young'un. 878 00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:09,159 Nothing profound to say today. 879 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,704 - Then I'll recycle an old one, 880 00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:15,123 one that I know by heart. 881 00:40:15,165 --> 00:40:17,959 Maybe start with finding something 882 00:40:18,001 --> 00:40:19,961 that reminds you of happiness. 883 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:25,091 - I could dust off the trumpet. 884 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:26,134 - Ooh. 885 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:29,637 - I think I can still fit in my majorette outfit. 886 00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:35,727 - I know I should go home, but I don't want to face it yet. 887 00:40:35,769 --> 00:40:38,355 Hang here until you're ready. 888 00:40:38,396 --> 00:40:41,316 We can stay up all night like old times. 889 00:40:42,984 --> 00:40:46,946 - You know, I hear that there's a reality show set in Potomac 890 00:40:46,988 --> 00:40:48,907 that'll help you forget all your problems, 891 00:40:48,948 --> 00:40:50,408 even if it's only for an hour. 892 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:51,576 We should tune in. 893 00:40:53,203 --> 00:40:54,496 Hell yeah. 894 00:40:56,206 --> 00:40:57,957 - So you guys think there's something up 895 00:40:57,999 --> 00:40:59,876 because of her relationship with. 896 00:40:59,918 --> 00:41:00,918 - Absolutely. 897 00:41:03,505 --> 00:41:07,467 My God. 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