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Everything I have in here, you see, is one of a kind.

This stuff's all chiffon stuff.

This stuff's my fancy stuff.

I bought these in 1967, and they're still brand-new.

They got great, big- they're low hip-huggers, right?

They come down here.

And they got great, big bells on 'em, man.

These are nice leather ones. They're real soft.

Feel the leather on those. They're soft.

They feel good, don't they?

I like a lot of paisley shit, you know.

I still got a lot of paisley shit,

and it's all in perfect condition.

These are all my stage clothes,

and I only wore these, like, once in a while,

because when I used to play,

I was saving them for when I got big.

And that never happened, so I saved 'em forever.

- So what are his prospects?

Because he keeps giving me these rosy scenarios,

and I don't know what to believe, you know?

- What does he tell you, specifically?

- Well, like, one thing I know is a delusion,

is that he's going in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

this year or next.

I like him to have a dream, though, you know?

If he didn't have a dream, he's liable to kill himself.

- Are you really gonna do this as a documentary?

I could go out and play.

- I get nervous. You know what I mean?

- Hmm? - I get nervous that...

- Everybody does.

He does.

They're afraid I'm gonna die.

That's okay. I won't.

If you guys want me around, I'll stick around.

- Please. - If you really do.

I mean that in my heart.

I mean, if you want me around, I'll stick around.

For just guys like you guys.

- I was at a record show with my girlfriend,

and, um, I found, like, this- all this rare stuff

that I totally wanted.

And then I was just looking through one last bin...

and I saw the original Pentagram record.

It was just a purple logo against black.

It kind of looks like garbage on the front.

You turn it around, and there's this, like,

scary-ass picture of the band.

I was with my girlfriend at the time,

and we were just, like, crazy record collectors

and just go blow all our money on records and beer

and then just have, like, Friday and Saturday night

listening to records.

Man, as soon as we put that on the turntable,

that's like nothing I'd heard before.

Really, I mean, it was just so fucking heavy.

This was the only Pentagram that was released

and the only one I knew of.

I thought this was the beginning of Pentagram.

I was working at an indie record label,

and I was telling everybody about it that I knew,

and someone said, "Oh, yeah, man.

"I get stuff no one's even heard about before,

from the '70s, heavy, hard rock. "

I was like, "Come on, how can this be?"

I was obsessed with this band.

So he brings in this CD-R.

Here it is, man,

a record that literally changed my life.

I couldn't wait, you know, just to get out of work

and go home and listen to it.

At that point, I was riding a bike to work,

and I remember just riding home as fast as I could, you know?

Just like a little kid from school.

I rolled a joint- it was a special occasion.

I rolled a big joint.

And that first song, Forever My Queen,

I mean, just fucking phenomenal.

- I couldn't believe it.

Some of the best hard rock I've ever heard.

I mean, lyrically, his vocal delivery.

Just the guitar in it was out of control.

I mean, for the early '70s, I couldn't believe it.

And mostly, not only was it brilliant,

but aside from that, why doesn't everyone talk about it?

What's the equivalent of hearing something like this

for someone who's just obsessed by music?

It's a profession and their passion and their private life.

It's... it's hard to explain.

It's literally like being a devout Christian

and walking down the street one day and bumping into Jesus,

and he knows your name and shakes your hand

and asks you over for dinner and drinks.

You know?

And he calls you on the weekends to go out.

I mean, I- I can't explain it.

My whole life, I've just been obsessed by music.

It's all I wanted to do with my life.

And the only things that made me truly happy

were finding an awesome record.

I was just completely driven and obsessed.

I mean, I was completely in love,

and I just couldn't wait

to make other people fall in love with this.

- It was the perfect time for Bobby Liebling and Pentagram

to kind of- to be rediscovered.

I wouldn't even say they were a cult band.

They were kind of a secret, at that point.

But then there was all this interest

in early '70s hard rock.

There was a big stoner-rock thing.

There were a lot of bands

that just wanted to get that early '70s sound

and then get back to the basics in metal.

All of a sudden, there's this band.

Oh, you know, they have unlimited number

of unreleased recordings from the 1970s,

and there hasn't been, like, years and years

of over-merchandising or marketing

or anything like that.

It was just like this caveman found, you know,

frozen in the Swiss Alps somewhere

that you cut out the block of ice and bring it out,

and there's a specimen there that still has active DNA.

Bobby Liebling is still that frozen guy.

- If you see anything that says Pentagram, like,

Liebling, Pentagram, blah-blah-blah project

or any of that on the CDs,

we will find, find for you guys, 'cause you must hear this.

This is more important to me than any other shit.

That's why you must hear the stuff.

Hey, world premiere!

VH1 in the trash heap.

Oh, man, I know I'll play again. I can't help it.

Look, I'm addicted.

You know, it's like heroin.

I can get up there and rock with the best of 'em.

Cool E right here.

- I thought he was very good when he was younger.

I don't-you know, I didn't go to many of his shows.

I didn't want to make him uncomfortable,

but he did have a-

Would you please get...

Thank you. Excuse me.

No, not just as a mother. I was very critical of him.

But I thought he had a-

just a natural instinct to perform.

And you couldn't stop him, even if we wanted to, you know?

It was sort of inborn.

- Far superior than some of these real big bands

that I've seen.

Big guys that are making millions.

- Have you ever done anything else besides rock and roll?

- Nothin'.

Yeah, this- drugs.

Sex, drugs, rock and roll.

Well, I mean, look at me.

You know I'm an old soldier, right?

I've been doing drugs 44 years.

I've been addicted to heroin for 39.

I've been addicted to crack for about 22.

I've been in off-houses, detoxes.

You know, that's why I smile and tell people,

"I'm alive, man. "

I'm not supposed to be alive.

Uh, did you see where the piece of crack went?

The big piece of crack?

Oh, my God, look, there's- oh, no, that's a Band-Aid.

- No, I know. It fell down into...

- You saw it? I mean, the place is a hellhole.

It's a shit-hole.

It's a sloth house, and I hate it.

That's why I want to get out, man.

I don't like dirt, see?

- You want to get out?

- Believe it or not, yeah.

Fucking A. I'm gonna get out.

Are you kidding?

That looks like rat poop. It's not-

- He's been close to death ever since I've known him.

I can't tell you how many times

I get a message that he leaves in the middle of the night,

saying good-bye.

- He didn't live a hard life

and then come back and try and write love songs.

He wrote songs from the perspective of somebody

that was metaphysically in the sub-basement.

He's used that to make very harrowing, bone-chilling music.

- Man, I remember sitting at the side of a train track.

This was, like, where I lived, side of a train tracks.

I found a boom box in a dumpster,

and the only tape I had was Be Forewarned.

He speaks truths that not many people can see or know.

It's pain, and it's empowerment,

and it's just all these things in one, purely from the heart.

It's almost like, on a smaller scale, like my bible, you know?

- The first time I ever saw footage of Bobby,

I never seen nothing like it.

He definitely understood

the seductive powers of rock and roll, man,

and he could just go from this textbook rock-and-roll guy

and then all of a sudden just crouch down like the devil.

You know, when you're a kid, man,

that's about the fucking coolest thing you can see.

So...

- There's something about, I guess, the mystique of Bobby.

He just has that persona, you know,

and that charisma that people just, like, latch on to.

And then his drug addictions and things like that,

it's added to all that,

but it's also a hell for a lot of people

who've played in bands with him over the years.

I mean, if you look on the Pentagram Myspace site,

on the left column,

it's got all the prior members of Pentagram,

and it's, you know- it's, like, a list that long.

- The potential's there, but, you know,

there's certain personal things in his life

that are keeping him from going all the way.

- Even though I talked to him

and seemed like it was a dead end,

the guy's got some kind of fight in him.

He's got a flame that won't go out, man.

I wanted to start a fire with it, you know?

So today we're headed down to, uh, see Bobby.

Um... I have a toll coming up.

Do you want to do this after the toll?

- Thank you. - Thanks.

So today I'm gonna go down.

I have notes and an outline

of what I think the plan should be.

And even if we get a contract signed

and it takes us forever to start recording,

shit can fall apart, man.

So we really got to fucking move on it

and move on it fast and make it happen.

You know what, we're gonna get a fucking record made.

God damn it.

I hope.

Practically speaking, the one thing I can do

for Pentagram and Bobby is give 'em good direction.

And something I mentioned to him,

like, "Bobby, you know what?

You're fucking almost dead, man. Unfortunately, it sucks. "

He tells me this all the time.

"So you got one more shot to really make another big mark. "

And that's what I really want to help Bobby do.

It just has to happen.

There's got to be a final finale chapter

in the story of Bobby Liebling.

I really think that you guys can do it

and come back together and do a great record.

I haven't even started

negotiating the contract yet at all.

It's just figuring out if they're interested,

figuring out what they're willing to give

for an advance.

We also have to figure out Geof and Greg or whatever-

are willing to be on the record.

So part of the reason I want to go with Housecore, dude,

is, Philip is the contemporary hard rock hero, right?

You are the dude from the past.

He's gonna bring you huge visibility.

So what we need to do is, we're gonna lay out a budget

that we're all gonna have to agree to

and we're all gonna have to stick to,

and I want to see this shit happen.

I have too much time invested in it

to not even follow through at this point.

So what I'm gonna do is,

I'm gonna record him Backlash, Suffering,

and Everything's Turning To Night

and hand it to him backstage at the Down show.

But the other thing is- too is,

it's my word I'm giving to them, you know?

Before all this happens,

and we're gonna go with it.

So this, what I'm handing you is my final-

my final effort to fucking help you

and try to fucking put a great record on the history books.

- You know what I want to do? I want to live.

I want to live a little, man.

- Well, here's the thing.

- I want to live. I don't want to die anymore.

- We do this record, bro, right?

Hopefully, it'll help you get out of here.

We're gonna figure out what we're gonna get for percentages,

what your royalties are gonna be, all that stuff.

- I have to eat. I have to make a living.

I can't-I can't do this

irresponsible, little, crying child trick forever.

I can't.

I've been Peter Pan my whole life, man.

There's times you do something.

I want me back.

I'm tired of giving me out and giving up and running away.

I run away with, you know,

the old piece of glass, you know?

If I smoke any crack after today, you can have my records.

How about that?

I'll put it on the camera.

- "If Robert Liebling smokes crack after today, 10/12/07,

"Demian Fenton and Sean Pelletier

will own Robert Liebling's entire record collection. "

- Before you do it, it should say "1 B."

Possession should take place only if, and after 9 days-

90 days or whatever days, you know-

30 days, 60 days, 90 days.

It's up to you. I don't care.

- We're not gonna take your records.

We just want you to stop smoking crack.

- Yeah, yeah. - Sign this.

- No, but, you should put...

- Do you want me to hold the crack when you sign that?

- You know what I mean?

- Throughout Pentagram's career,

they've really come so close to really making it.

- Our manager at the time, Gordon Fletcher,

one of the two managers,

knew a lot of people in the business,

and he knew Gene and Paul in KISS.

So we had this set up for them

to come see one of our rehearsals.

- It was in a basement of a house that I was living in.

Wasn't really a heavy metal studio, let's say.

- The day that KISS was going to be arriving,

Greg and Vincent had to work,

and they were working as janitors.

- So unfortunately, Vincent, a brilliant guitar player,

and Greg, heavier-than-hell bass player,

were off cleaning toilets.

I don't know.

If KISS was coming to my house to watch my band,

I would quit my fucking job.

I wouldn't even go to-

never mind going to work that day.

- So Gene and Paul show up.

Toilet boys are still at work.

Not only were they off cleaning toilets that day,

but they hitchhiked to work.

- They didn't have a car.

They had to hitchhike home

wearing some type of janitor-type outfit.

- I guess we got off work, Vince and I did,

and we got to the house.

We're all grubby from being janitors.

- The landlord, who I guess lived in the house,

started bitching and complaining that it was too loud

and had to shut down.

- Came running.

"Man, you guys got to turn it down!"

And I'm like, "God damn it, man. KISS is here," you know?

- Fucking KISS is in the house watching them play.

You think they'd give the landlord something.

Some peanut butter sandwiches and 25 bucks

to fucking go away for the day.

But, you know, so it was just- I guess it was just horrible.

From what I hear, KISS,

some of the things they said are,

"Well, your name's Pentagram. There's only four of you.

"The singer and the bass player have bad skin.

The drummer's too fat. "

And they blew it.

I mean, should have taken the day off from work,

fucking did a month of aerobics,

fucking got some Oxy pads, you know?

- Should I pull 'em out?

Some Enchanted Evening.

My son has the platinum Some Enchanted Evening.

I'm told that the Johnny Winter is platinum.

I'm told that Blue Oyster Cult�s first three records

have gone gold,

but Sony is too cheap to send me gold records.

Uh, this is...

I had done at least a couple of Blue Oyster Cult records.

I was looking for the real thing to follow Blue Oyster Cult.

Pentagram really seemed like sort of a street Black Sabbath.

That was just what I was looking for, you know?

I wanted the male-dominant thrust of heavy metal.

But it sort of had a, "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on"

kind of thing.

Post-Page, pre-Sex Pistols.

It was almost as though I'm sitting at a computer-

if there were such things then-

kind of generating this band that was perfect for 1974.

I was ready to seriously, seriously commit to them.

- Here was our big break.

Columbia records is paying for us to go do a demo in New York.

- And, you know, we're on the train to New York.

Man, I'm seeing stars in my eyes.

- We went into the studio and did three tracks

with Murray Krugman producing it.

- We get through all the rhythm tracks,

and Bobby's laying down the vocals.

- Bobby completed a vocal track,

and Murray said, "Okay, that's fine.

Come in and listen to it. "

And Bobby says, "I'd like to- I'd like to redo that.

There was a couple parts I wasn't really happy with. "

Murray says, "Don't worry about it.

We'll fix it in postproduction. Just-it was fine. "

- We could have corrected that vocal,

but there would have been some other thing

where he's hearing a finished $200,000 record in his head

and can't understand why an eight-hour demo

isn't gonna give that to him.

- And Bobby got real upset about it

and called Gordon, who was our manager,

out into the singing booth.

- "Gordon, can I see you a minute?"

Pain in the ass, I was.

Called him out in the main room.

Made sure I was by a live mic.

I said, "What's this guy being such a fucking asshole for?"

- Murray just got up,

and, as I recall, he didn't say a word.

Vincent thought he said we were

the most difficult band to work with and walked out.

I don't recall him saying anything.

I just recall him getting up and walking out of the studio

without saying a word.

And we never talked to him again.

- I felt like killing Bobby.

- I've fantasized many, many times

if Bobby had just said, "No problem," you know,

and walked in and we'd listened back to the session.

What would have happened the rest of that day?

What would have happened the rest of that week?

And what would have happened with the rest of our career?

- We would have gotten a deal through them.

No question.

Record deal, national tour, fame, and fortune.

It would have happened.

There, but for the grace of God.

- I used to say to him,

"When I see you on Saturday Night Live,

I'll know you made it. "

And, you know, I've seen some lousy acts.

That shocks me.

Bobby, Pellet's here.

- He... he's here?

- Yeah. - Good lord.

- Everybody in unison-

I mean, total-

"Move him out of your house. "

- Everybody, everybody.

I mean, to this day.

There's always tons of laundry around here.

I don't know.

He can change three times a day.

He's already changed twice today.

He keeps spilling his coffee...

- Even now, everything that he has comes from us.

- How much have you given for Bobby?

- Financially?

- I have...

- Financially, over $1 million.

- Thanks, appreciate it.

- All right, good.

Brush your hair?

- There's Fig Newtons, aren't there?

Mom?

There's Fig Newtons, aren't there?

Yeah.

- I've always been afraid

that he'd either go out and steal

or knock somebody.

You don't know. Addicts are crazy.

- It's a very tough thing.

They call us enablers.

I said, "Really?

"Did you ever see my son?

Do you know him?"

"No. "

"And you're in social services?

Where is your sensitivity to people?"

His brilliance in the music field

has never been to fruition because of the problem.

He has all this talent now.

- Yes, he still has talent.

- He has it.

- Do you guys think that Bobby could stop doing drugs?

- At this stage of the game, of anybody, you know,

it's a prognosis question.

- Yes, if he were out of pain.

He's in a lot of pain that people don't realize that.

And he also has, truthfully, a delusion

that he has a parasitic infection.

Bobby's not insane, but he can act insane with the coke.

- My fingers turn black every night.

There, it's starting now.

That's not from the coke.

That's all parasites.

See those dots that look like dots embedded?

- Mm-hmm.

- All of them.

Did you see my lips?

They're not chapped.

Come here.

See the line along the bottom?

- Mm-hmm. - That's all parasites.

See all that black?

Those are all parasites.

- Holy fuck, man. - Yeah.

- Never saw it, huh?

15 years I've had to live with that.

- See, when he starts pulling his skin,

he does what he thinks- he calls, "debriding. "

He'll pull at it

and put it on a piece of paper towel

and pull out his magnifying glass,

and he'll come-

"You never want to look. You never want to look. "

I said, "I've spent 10,000 hours looking, Bobby.

It's not bugs. It's dead skin. "

If he didn't pick his arms,

I know they'd heal,

and I know everything would be fine.

- It's a fact.

I have something unknown that is parasitic.

- Truth is that she said you've been to the hospital

about 50 times since you lived here.

- Mm-hmm.

- We're gonna be there for eight hours in the waiting room,

and they're gonna let you out.

Unless you go there and say you want to go to detox,

and then they'll admit you.

- They're not gonna treat me for this in detox.

- I've watched you smoke a fuckload of crack right now.

- Mm-hmm. - It's in your blood.

- Mm-hmm. - They're gonna get you in.

Then once you're in there, you're away from this,

maybe you can heal more.

- I want to go to the hospital,

not that I want to go in rehab.

I want to go to the hospital,

because if I'm not treated for this,

I'm gonna die.

It makes me nasty.

It makes me confused.

Probably 'cause it's eating my organs away.

Probably 'cause it is eating my brain.

All I do is cry all night

and pray to God to die.

- I've taken Bobby here a few times.

I know he's intent on getting his hands and arms addressed

and that rehab is a secondary solution.

And as far as what he was saying 30 minutes ago,

suicide being the third solution.

I don't-I wish he wasn't going through any of this,

but there's nothing that I can do

except just support him, you know?

You know, Bobby would be the first to tell you,

years back,

he kind of made that deal with the devil, right?

He kind of sold his soul,

and he's fighting like hell to steal it back

one piece at a time.

- So what are they gonna do?

'Cause I feel comfortable in these places

more than I do in my own home.

I like hospitals.

That's sick, but I love hospitals.

Pellet has been- has been like a god to me.

He's basically a godsend.

I love him. I love all you guys.

You know, for coming here.

Thank you very, very much.

- On Sundays, we'd take him to this little deli,

and they had a jukebox.

There, he was only a year and a half there.

So he'd go over there and bounce to it,

and he'd turn around.

He sang Tennessee Ernie Ford.

And everybody, "Look at that little boy," you know?

He had quite a good childhood.

- He had an excellent childhood.

- Later teens, he used to walk in the door.

He'd step in that door right away.

Before he even saw him, he'd yell out,

"Did you cut your hair?"

That was, I mean, every night.

That's when they kind of had a little parting,

because of his hair and lifestyle and so forth.

A lot of Bobby's problems I believe, subconsciously,

is an innate competitive thing with his father.

- I think she's right. She's right in that.

She's right in that.

I worked for eight secretaries of defense.

Originally appointed by President Johnson,

kept on by Nixon and by President Ford.

Where the hell did you find that?

I always looked up to people

who were in our society.

Very, very responsible.

And I want my son to have been like that.

- Joe, but he's not.

- I can't do anything about it now.

- What I want for Bobby, just for him to be happy.

- Just for him to be-

- To find a good woman.

- Two different categories.

- Why? He needs that, Joe.

- I just want him to be well.

Within the range of normalcy.

With that, of course, goes then to societal things

that she's talking about.

- To play the next message, press one.

- Hey, Dem. It's Pellet.

Listen, I'm just giving you a quick call.

I finally heard from Bobby

after weeks of him being missing in action.

He's been in Philadelphia, of all places.

Dude, he met some young hot girl named Hallie,

and he's been up here spending time with her.

She supposedly is not a drug addict.

I'm not sure what the whole deal is,

but I just thought I'd tell you.

It looks llike there's gonna be some forward motion,

'cause he's psyched and really positive.

Give me a call when you get this, okay?

See ya.

- This message will be saved.

- The way he met her, from what I understand, is,

she was a fan.

They were speaking on the phone quite a bit,

so she came one time with her cousin.

Then a couple of weeks later, she invited him to visit.

And that's how it started.

He's been going to Philly nearly every weekend.

Do you have an elevator at 201 South 13th?

He got an apartment-we got him an apartment, I should say-

in Philadelphia, just a few blocks from her.

So he'll have to come in through the front?

Is it wide? Because he has a very wide sofa.

Apparently, they're in love.

Or whatever, you know?

I don't know if it's- I shouldn't say this-

in love or in lust, but...

- Yeah, I was very, very lonely down here for a long time,

but, uh, I'm not lonely anymore

because I have a- very much a purpose, you know?

Perfect time to meet Hallie.

About time somebody loved Bob for Bob again.

There's been nobody a long time who's loved Bob for Bob.

Nobody loves me like Hallie. Nobody.

I've never loved a woman like Hallie in my life.

Never in my life and never will again.

- He's got to take winter boots.

I don't care what he says.

Are they that bad?

They're dorky, he says.

Just for the snow.

Are they that dorky?

Huh?

Tell him he needs some lamps.

- I got everything like that.

- You got the coconut oil.

- Don't worry about that.

- All right, where is it?

- You know that fire that just started?

Right as the flames hit the stove,

this fell off Bob's neck.

Now, how fucking weird is that?

That's weird.

'Cause you were here-

Them flames came out of nowhere, right?

Out of fucking nowhere.

This popped right off his neck right as the fire started.

Do the math.

One bad omen after another, dude.

I don't know.

I think Bobby might just be back.

I hope this girl is everything he thinks, man.

I don't know her.

Yeah, I hope it works out.

But between the cross breaking and the fire, the snow,

fucking... I'm starting to wonder, man.

- All right, I'll see you later.

- Good luck. - Wish me luck.

- Make it. - Yeah, I'm gonna make it.

There ain't no question about that.

- Are you boxed in?

- We'll see you again, all right?

- Drive careful. - Love you!

- Oh, boy.

I just hope he's happy, that's all.

Hope he's happy.

- So today is Bobby's birthday.

He loves carrot cake.

He gets an annual carrot cake every year.

There's no room to write, "Happy birthday, Bobby"

without interfering with the carrot symmetry,

so we're just gonna go with a Pentagram

with maybe a 54 in the middle.

I guess, uh, I get a little leeway

since I'm not a decorator.

- I think 54's not that old. - Huh?

- 54's not that old.

- No, I don't know, is it?

- I mean, it's old.

Get out of here!

- But it's not that old.

At first glance, when people see me and Bobby

walking down the street together,

they either think, A, he's my father,

or, B, he's my sugar daddy

or, you know, a pimp or something like that.

But he's an endearing person,

and I'm certainly not in it for the money,

because he has none.

And I just- I enjoy his company.

I feel very kindred to him, regardless of the age gap.

My cousin and I had a theory that he and his mother

were the same person,

like an Anthony Perkins, like, Psycho sort of thing.

You're gonna have us, like, locked in a closet

with your mother's corpse.

I don't find that I have anything in common

with guys my age.

I've always liked, since I was young,

in terms of looks,

guys that have, you know, goofy features,

like caricature features,

and I just have an odd taste in men.

That's just the way it is.

- All right, Bobby!

- Who bought the candles?

It has a freaking pentagram on it.

No, wait, hold on-

The change is pretty massive.

To my understanding, he was smoking toxic amounts of crack.

- Make a wish.

- He went from that to this

and has smoked no crack since he moved to Philly.

- Whoo!

- He's been through so much more life than me.

But it's the kind of, like, life

where you don't really grow as a person.

He's kind of remained frozen in time, a little bit,

and I kind of like that about him.

I mean, in his heart, too,

he'll always be young, I think.

You look good in those pants.

He looks pretty.

- Long as she can say that, that's okay by me, baby.

I'm doing all right then.

Now I'm still here.

If I can have someone as beautiful as this

say I'm pretty,

something's happening here.

- And now it's so crazy watching, you know, him

in this short amount of time

grow up and make up for the time

where his growth was, like, really stunted.

Stuff where he would have no clue what to do before,

like his debit card, checking account,

the social security card,

he doesn't have a problem with that stuff anymore.

He's gotten the hang of it.

- I don't miss him. I really don't.

There's a nice sense of peace now.

- I do, a great deal.

- He misses him terribly.

- A great deal.

The fact that he is using whatever strength he has left

to preserve whatever self-confidence he has

is something that I am proud of.

He commented on the phone for the first time today, actually,

"I love you, Dad. "

- It's amazing, the transformation in this guy.

He looks good. He sounds good.

It's the person I thought or hoped I'd be dealing with

from the get-go.

He's been jamming with other musicians.

He just seems kind of more focused

and definitely more in touch with music lately.

- The Hallie situation,

I hate to talk so much about it,

but it is really that integral in my life.

Hallie Liebling.

I got mad love for Hallie Liebling.

Yep. She's gonna be my Liebling.

She's my little Liebling.

- We're about three hours and 45 minutes from Los Angeles.

Finally going to meet the infamous Geof O'Keefe

after talking to him for-

gosh, I don't know, 71/2 years now?

When you're in a record store

and you pick up that record, man,

you just almost don't know what you're in for.

Not only is it a journey of the mind,

but sometimes it's a real exodus, man.

I fell in love with this band,

and now I feel like I'm kind of becoming part of the story.

It's a friggin' honor.

I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

Bobby makes my fucking hair fall out.

I'm telling you, dude.

But at the end of the day, it's gonna be worth it, you know?

It really is.

Fucking psyched.

People are gonna be able to dig a new record, man.

That's kick-ass enough for me.

Geof is such an important part

of the formation of this awesome band.

I'm hoping we really get Geof excited about it as well,

and he's willing to, you know, deal with Bobby

and forget about the past

or deal with some of the bullshit for the greater good,

which is gonna be an awesome new Pentagram record

from the-with the original members, you know?

And new members too.

- "Pentagram has not only developed

"a small but faithful following in the Washington area,

but major record companies have also taken an interest. "

Well...

Think it was a bar of soap from Ramada Inn, New York City

when we did that Columbia Records session.

So I'm guessing...

- Yeah, it smells like failure.

Oh, man.

Bobby and my special project,

The Douche Bags by The Douche Bags.

- "A friend told me he heard from a connection

"that Bobby left and Pentagram now has a female singer.

"If this is true, I'm doomed.

"It seems unlikely, but anything's possible.

Christ, I got to know. "

- "These two talented musicians make up

"one of the most successful and popular bands today.

"Between the two of them,

"they play a wide range of instruments:

bass, lead guitar, drums, female organ, and leslies. "

"We'd like to wreak metal havoc in Britain.

"The only problem so far is,

we can't get out of Washington. "

- "Pentagram closed the show with a nightcap.

"Any finesse got crushed and pushed aside

by a boring tidal wave of sound. "

Well, this just shows where things had ended.

December '76.

"Singer wanted.

"Former members of Pentagram

"require a singer of professional caliber

"in the David Coverdale/ Paul Rodgers mold.

We do not want a singer with an ego problem. "

I met Bobby Liebling in probably 1967, '68.

I noticed that he was carrying record albums with him

a lot of times on the school bus,

and I was just starting to get into cool music.

He was playing in a band at the time called Shades of Darkness.

He was doing stuff that I was only dreaming about-

playing in bands and going out with girls and all this stuff.

So I really kind of idolized this guy.

Coming out of the psychedelic hippie '60s

and going into the '70s,

it was really a sense of artistic freedom,

like there were no boundaries.

We could do what we wanted,

wanting to make music and make movies.

We weren't conscious of being in any type

of situation or artistic environment.

We just knew we wanted to do what we wanted to do.

I have really good memories of Bobby

from a certain period of time to a certain period of time.

And then bad things started to happen,

and there was a few years of that,

and eventually I just decided,

"I don't want any part of this. "

There was just too much negativity to-

outweighing the positive, you know?

Things got so bad with the relationship

between our managers, Skip and Tom.

And the band wanted to know what was going on

because they were still our managers,

so Skip said, "Well, you can interview me,

"but just, you know, write down the questions

"and come out with your tape recorder,

and I'll record the answers onto a tape recorder. "

- One, two, three, four.

- Skip basically didn't want to be around Bobby.

So we had to conduct our band interview

with our own manager by tape.

- How do you expect to promote the single wholeheartedly

when you won't even meet with the band you're producing?

Skip?

- First of all, I don't expect to promote...

- Bobby's very driven with what-

and very passionate about his music, and that's good.

But I have a feeling that over the years

that's been, you know- one of Bobby's main problems is

the freedom of Bobby doing nothing

except sex, drugs, rock and roll.

I mean, that is it to a tee.

And I realize some people say,

from an artistic standpoint, "Bravo", you know?

"You've got your vision. You're sticking to it. "

On the other hand, you know,

everyone that's been with you has walked away over the years

or fled in terror

because they realize you're not ever gonna compromise

or, you know, cooperate.

I haven't talked to Bobby in over 20 years.

It would be really cool to go into the studio with Bobby

and do a real album for the first time,

rerecord some old stuff, write some new stuff.

'Cause I'm proud of that stuff.

And if, 30 years later,

people are finally discovering that music

and, you know, posting things online about,

"Oh, this band is so amazing.

This drummer kicks ass," and stuff like that.

When I read stuff like that, it's like, "Wow, really?

Thank you. "

On the other hand, everyone who tries to do this with Bobby

winds up getting crapped on.

It winds up being a disaster of mega proportions

because Bobby will do something to screw it up.

I don't want to go do something that's a high publicity thing

and have it fall apart and be a laughingstock.

I don't want to do it.

- She hasn't called me.

You know, got 17 minutes left.

I can't- my phone's gonna run out.

I got...

- Your call cannot be completed...

- My call can't be completed as dialed.

Come on, please answer, honey.

The thing that people don't realize

is that Mr. Evil- whoo!

Pentagram, dih-dih-dih-dih, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Man, under this shell,

and this put-on,

all I want to do is eat,

take care of my loving other half

in a bed that's comfortable,

next to a warm soul

that I can give my soul to,

because I'm not a bad guy.

I'm really not a bad guy underneath.

I don't mean to do the things I do wrong.

You know, I pray every night to God

to forgive me for the things I've done wrong.

Hallie, why are you calling me an asshole

and saying that I hurt you?

- Because you did.

- All I called to-

Listen, all I said-

Can I say anything?

Can I say anything ever?

- It was just overkill.

Hallie, Hallie, Hallie, Hallie.

And, you know, it's great to be in a relationship,

but you just need a fucking break.

He was talking about marriage.

I mean, from the get-go,

the first thing Bobby told me was,

"I have a new girlfriend, and I'm gonna marry her. "

And it's just all these things, like, compounded

on this poor girl, and she's just bound to break.

- Yeah, well, not dealing-

You said it. I didn't.

She hung up on me again.

It's over. There's nothing to live for.

- I can come over and can listen to music, dude.

Music's a powerful drug.

- What do you say?

- What Hallie said?

- Yeah.

- No candy-coating.

This isn't easy for me, dude.

And I don't-but I'll tell ya. I mean...

Last night, he didn't want to see me.

Today, he didn't want to see me.

He doesn't want to see anybody.

He's just really affected.

He's fucking crushed.

- Now that this Hallie thing's coming down, man,

I could just sense Bobby just trying to find

any excuse to fucking relapse

and go back and start smoking crack.

I can start feeling it happen.

Bobby, listen to me.

It seemed like last time we hung out,

I just got a feeling that you might have smoked crack.

Did you smoke crack since you've been here?

- No.

- Philip's playing here in a couple weeks with his band Down.

He's got to be clean for that.

Their hesitation, the business side of it,

is giving money to a drug addict, man, you know?

And he's got to be fucking clean

to back up me telling them that he's clean

and is gonna be able to do it, you know?

If he shows up fucked up, it's gonna fuck it up.

- Being a person that has dealt with his own demons and won...

- That's the truth.

- I just hope that one day

maybe he can do the same thing, you know?

It would be a beautiful thing, man.

- Appreciate that.

From the heart.

- Wow.

Can I eat anything I want?

Can I taste a piece of pineapple?

- You sure? - Get some.

- Mmm.

Well, they got it all.

The way it's supposed to be.

- Man, I got, like, so many Pentagram t-shirts.

It's an honor having you here, man.

There's just so much respect.

Personally, I'm sick of hearing people say it's too late.

- Nah. - It's never too late.

- Never, never, never.

- You know, there's a lot of people, you know,

"Dude, there's no way he can come back. "

- How many times have we been written off?

- No, I know, man.

- If we're gonna get straight to the bone and shit...

There is this wave that I'm sure you're aware of-

young musicians that are discovering Pentagram.

That's a gift, my brother.

- Sure it is.

- It's a fucking gift.

- Sure it is.

- And it's enough of a gift

for you to give yourself a fucking break, man.

You've got your fucking health.

- I'm giving myself a break.

I kicked $300 of rock, six Xanax bars,

105 milligrams of meth,

and a 10-pack of dope- cold turkey.

- How's that throat feel?

- Fine.

- You can sing.

- Oh, I can sing my ass off.

- Really? Are you ready?

- Yeah, well, you're the man with the money.

- Well, you're the man with the fucking record

that needs to kick fucking ass too.

- Believe me, if you've heard all my records,

I ain't done no record in my opinion that hadn't kicked ass.

- You know what?

Robert, I'd be proud to fucking do this.

I really would, man.

- We're coming now, Phil.

- Stand up.

- They're on stage.

- All right, man. - I love you, baby.

- Me too, buddy.

- It's great, great to meet you, man.

- Yep, I hope we can do something, brother.

- Philip! We got to go!

- Let's go, brother.

- Come on!

We're on the way.

Have a good show, bro.

- You know, I take him up to meet Phil Anselmo,

and everything's pretty much all set up.

On the fucking way home,

instead of focusing on the positive,

he's still focusing on Hallie.

So as soon as we drop him off, he literally got out of the car,

thanked me, all of a sudden his eyes start to tear up,

and he says he doesn't want to go home

to an empty apartment.

He's just... he's at the end.

Again.

- I'm in the shower! Five minutes!

- Can we come in?

- Uh, yeah, you can come in.

You can step over this shit.

Just stay out of here.

I'm on record at Jefferson Hospital

of being epidemically covered in scabies,

so is everything in the whole goddamn place.

You think I'm lying? I can prove every bit of it.

- Well, let's talk.

You don't have to prove it to me.

Just please get ready-

- No, I have to prove it to everybody,

'cause it's cocaine, cocaine, cocaine, cocaine!

Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!

The only thing I see here is a fucking syringe.

- Yeah, there is a syringe.

There's a syringe, crack pipes, all kinds of shit around here.

I quit.

A mega dose of methadone.

Mega heroin, piggybacking it.

dropped in the course of less than a month, okay?

- I give you huge credit for that,

- No, it's not.

- And keeping you from making real friends that care.

- Look, I gave up 99 out of 100.

I'm not Superman. What do you want me to do?

Conquer the world overnight?

You're asking too much of me now.

I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown

over all this drug shit.

- You have so much talent,

and you're smoking crack on your couch.

It's heartbreaking.

- How much life do you think I have left?

I think the damage is done.

Far and above.

- New message.

- Hi, Demian. It's Diane.

I haven't heard from Bobby since Friday.

Truthfully, I don't think he's gonna last much longer.

I just have a feeling.

Either he's gonna overdose or do something stupid.

And he's hung up on that Hallie thing like crazy, so...

I can't kill myself anymore over it,

and what will be, will be.

- New message.

- Hi, Demian. It's Diane.

We still haven't heard from Bobby,

and now we're really extremely concerned.

Please call me.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

- New message.

- I found out where Bobby is.

It's called CFCF, under the prison system.

They took him there. I don't know where it is.

I don't know how he is.

I'm sure he's suffering, and we don't know what to do.

So when you get a chance, you call.

Bye-bye.

- Philadelphia Prison Systems.

"Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility.

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. "

Bobby's got a restraining order on him,

which clearly says you cannot fucking call Hallie.

He had fucking called Hallie.

Hallie picked up the phone and said,

"That's it. Now you're going to jail. "

Click.

I mean, this is a huge reality check.

What's harder than jail?

What's the next step? Death?

Who the fuck else is gonna fucking do this for him?

I hate to sound like a dick-

I feel like I've just been-

I'm getting grizzled and pricky

through this whole fucking process.

He's completely surrounded by chaos that he creates,

but it sucks everybody up in it that's around him.

And maybe I said this already,

but this past two weeks,

I was almost glad that he was in jail-

just the fact that I know

he wasn't somewhere hurting himself,

and I could concentrate on my life

and what I really needed to get done.

'Cause if I didn't get this shit done,

I can't do anything for him.

So we'll see.

See, fucking work calls right now.

$260 of bail, $15 parking later,

we're finally on our way.

They told- after bail went through,

they told us we have four to six hours

before he's released,

so it's a total guessing game.

No one can give us any kind of straight answers.

So we kind of cut the wait in half.

We're headed there now.

It's dark.

I'm sure Bobby is freaking to get out.

You know, the one thing he talks about that he wants,

I'm sure, more than anything is a bacon pizza,

which is all he eats, by the way.

Anything bad for his heart, Bobby Liebling will do it.

Love, drugs, bacon.

His life.

What's going on now is,

every time I fucking come to get him out,

there's some other thing going on.

They told me an hour and a half.

We just went and waited somewhere for over an hour.

We come back.

"Oh, we've got no one downstairs. "

I'm like, "Here's his name. He's been processed.

We paid at 3:00 today. "

"Well, there's no one downstairs.

"I tell you what, if he's not out within 15 minutes,

"he's gonna get out on the next shift,

which is, uh... 12:00."

So that probably means the next shift starts at 12:00,

so who knows when he's gonna get out.

So we got to park across the street,

which is, like, Mister- at Mister Chubby's,

which is fitting,

'cause they're treating us like fucking boners.

So now we got to wait and just watch.

We got to watch across the street,

which you can hardly see,

and we're gonna wait for him to walk out of the gate.

We can't wait here all fucking night in the goddamn car.

I skipped a whole day of work today to bail him out.

He's still not out,

and now it's fucking up my next day.

So I don't know what to do.

You know, if we decide to leave and come back in the morning,

that's when he's gonna be out here stranded, probably.

Know what I mean?

People keep asking me, you know,

"Dude, why are you even hanging in there?"

I've grown to love him as a friend,

and I really believe in him as a musician.

I don't know.

I'm really on the verge of saying, "Fuck it. "

And just saying I tried.

I really don't know. I keep going back and forth.

But I keep feeling like,

"Man, don't fucking throw it all away yet, Pellet,

because we're on the verge of fucking something happening. "

Cold in there?

- Huh, buddy?

That's my buddy.

There's my buddy, see?

Had to hook you up right away.

- How you doing, man?

- Uh, doing, like, you know.

- Is it all right?

- Here you go. "Help me. "

I'm in prison again.

- Hey, you want some waters?

It's good to see you out, dude.

- Jesus.

- I'm nervous that you're out. I'll admit it.

I didn't have to worry about you in jail.

I knew you weren't doing something dumb.

- I knew that. I...

Do you even know how many hours...

- Bobby obviously goes through the same patterns.

It's always, he does good for a couple weeks,

and then shit falls apart.

Bobby is just...

Robert Liebling.

He's a human, and he's got incredible demons

that he has to battle every fucking day.

That sounds cheesy, but I think Bobby really is just doing

all this stuff 'cause he just needs love.

- There's nothing here.

I have nobody I can call that can try to help.

I ain't got no relatives.

I ain't got no brother or sister, right?

You know...

Fuck it. I ain't got no kids.

I can't deal with myself.

I'm too immature.

I can't handle it, the pressure, you know what I mean?

I have nothing here.

I thought I had a life here.

I don't got nothing anymore.

- I just got the new issue of Rolling Stone.

I found the perfect girl for Bobby.

She's fucking- has no grip on-

they're in the same reality space,

but she's got money, and she's young and blonde.

Fucking Britney, dude.

I'm making some fucking calls right now.

Bobby'd like her, right?

You want some tea?

I started to realize that Bobby and I

might not have had the same goals.

My goal was for him to focus on the music.

All I could get him to focus to

when he was up here was Hallie.

Damn, man, it smells like an old man's dirty pants.

He got out of jail. Stuff just wasn't rolling.

Phil Anselmo, you know, caught wind of it.

Bobby was kind of a mess and in jail.

And that's, you know, totally put on hold.

Bobby moved back home with his mom.

He did, you know, typical Bobby kind of stuff.

- Basement?

- Living in the sub-basement. You know?

But one good thing that came out of it is,

being back around all that Maryland scene,

there was people down there who were just, you know,

willing to help him out

and got together and got him psyched again

about playing music.

I really think, in a way,

this is kind of what he needed to do.

He got a complete wake-up call by going to jail.

He got some love.

As heartbroken as he is,

I think he's got a little bit of confidence from it.

- Hey, is this on?

Yes, it is!

Okay.

- Since he's had a full band,

Bobby is just psyched to play shows.

We could definitely play D.C. and probably do pretty well.

But to make the biggest punch, to get the most out of press,

and just to have the biggest, you know,

appearance or profile is gonna be New York City.

So we chose New York.

They're at a top-notch venue.

We demanded a lot of money. We're getting it.

There's also, again, a lot on the line

because in the contract that I have to sign,

it says if the band does not show up for whatever reason,

if stuff doesn't happen,

it's my name on there that I'm responsible for.

So what I really need Bobby to do

is just focus again on the music.

I'm just very confused right now.

There's this angel I just wanted to talk to

while I was still hanging around, mortal.

- Is that keeping you from focusing on stuff or are you...

- Ain't easy.

Show must go on.

But it ain't easy, you know.

Got to keep rocking, or I start crying.

Sort of like that, you know?

Come on!

- Every single thing you do with Bobby Liebling has a risk.

Whether it's a record coming out,

whether it's a show or whatever, it's a risk.

I mean, it definitely makes shit exciting.

But it's putting gray in my beard, you know?

- It surprises me, people who go out and buy advance tickets

for Pentagram shows, sometimes.

You know, it's like, man, I would just wait

until the night of the show and go to the door,

because why sink your money into something

that you don't know is even going to happen?

- It's kind of an uphill battle right now,

because the last couple shows that Bobby played

are legendary-

a legendary mess.

- Yeah, there was this doom metal festival or something,

and this promoter guy goes,

"Man, I need you to play this gig and headline this gig. "

You know, "You got to do it. "

And I asked Bobby, I said, "You think we can do it?"

I went to play the gig, and it was packed with people.

It's getting later and later, and Bobby doesn't show.

Then Bobby doesn't show.

And the club owner comes up and goes, "Man, you got to play.

They're gonna tear my club up. "

I said, "There's-I don't have a singer here. "

Unfortunately, our singer won't show up tonight

'cause he's just too fucking cool for all of us,

so let's give it a big, "Fuck you, you asshole!"

Right?

- Fuck you!

- We're gonna play anyway.

And I gave the microphone to the audience.

I say, "It's Pentagram karaoke night.

Here you go. "

Then Bobby showed up at the last two measures of the last song.

I kicked him in the leg and then...

and I think I had a cordless guitar that night or something,

but I was playing from behind the speakers

where he couldn't rock out with me, you know?

That's how it happened,

and that kind of broke us up, really.

I said, "Forget it, man. I can't do that again.

Not at my age. "

You know-shit. I'm almost 20 now, so...

- Come on, you fucking junkie!

- Play!

- Play a song, you fucking junkie!

You fucking dope-shooter!

You fucking rip-off!

Bullshit!

- He's got this Jim Morrison thing going on now

or something, where you just never know what's gonna happen.

The last...

the last time he played was The Black Oat show in D.C.

- Oh, okay. The Black Oat incident?

That's like the incident at Roswell.

2,000 people crammed in this place,

and I'm going, "He's finally made it.

Damn, I'm glad I came tonight. You know, this is great. "

- People are fucking charged.

You see the band take the stage.

Literally, the guy next to me is biting his lip.

But there's something missing. Where's Bobby?

- Apparently, he'd overdosed.

And he fell asleep in my arms like a baby

in the dressing room.

Somebody knew the rescue squad guy.

They came and got him,

and then they shot him up with something.

I don't know what.

He goes, "I'm ready to play. "

- I see Bobby on the side of the stage being propped up,

looking like he's being carried over to the stage.

- Grabs a mic,

and that was it.

Stumbles backwards, falls on the drum riser.

Crawls off the fucking stage.

- When he left, it was in the big freight elevator-

in a straitjacket.

And there's orange lights,

and instead of the doors coming together like this,

they shut like a mouth, a giant, metallic mouth,

and he was gone.

I thought, "That's it.

That's the last time I'll see him. "

Man, I'll remember that the rest of my life.

- You know, I monitor Bobby's Myspace page.

Soon as you announce these shows, dude, this thing lit up.

It was just amazing.

Every time I come on, there's all these friend requests.

I had 12 pages of friend requests.

This might be fake, but Bobby would like it.

One of the best things for me, dude-

this is a total triumph.

This one kid says to me,

"I only heard Pentagram two months ago,

"but I can't believe the influence

it's had on my life already. "

You know, this is from, like, this 19-year-old kid,

so in the middle of nowhere, USA,

who must have picked up a First Daze Here record or whatever,

and it's just changed his life,

and it's the same thing it did to me,

and it's exactly what I want to do with Bobby.

Oh, right here.

"Love, love, love your music.

"Saw the opening band at a Witchcraft gig

"cover a tune of yours.

The place went crazy. "

"Pentagram forever.

"Many, many thanks for this great music.

I love it and I need it every day. "

And again, just people just rooting for Bobby.

Look at this. It's great.

It goes on and on and on.

Again, I just get choked up,

'cause I'm a freaking sissy-hippie butt.

I'm not a sissy, but...

At first I got involved with Bobby,

I wanted to have Bobby's music heard.

That was the main goal, right?

It was just pretty much all about Bobby.

Now at this point, it's become about me too.

My whole life has been in music.

My greatest accomplishment, to me personally, is Pentagram.

If I can't make it happen,

then I've got to fucking wake up and grow up,

like my parents keep telling me to do.

Out my hair and get a goddamn job.

It's gonna suck.

Bobby, Hallie and I texted each other,

and she sent me a couple of lengthy messages

that I can read if you want.

She's not gonna be at either show.

There's no way in hell.

I do know what this means to you-trust me, I do.

- One of the nights. You know what?

- Let me put it this way.

I've got so much invested in this.

I've gone beyond the deposit.

I've spent my own money on this.

I need these shows to happen.

I'll do whatever it takes to make these shows happen.

If it means fucking lying to Hallie

and telling her she'll get a $1 million

if she shows up, I'll do it.

But I just don't have high hopes,

and you got to get it out of your head

that she's gonna show up or not.

And I know that.

- So what else am I supposed to do?

She basically said, Bobby is-

you know, in not so many words-

off his rocker, doing cocaine again.

You have to go down to Germantown,

get him out of the sub-basement,

and bring him to Philly,

or he's not gonna play these shows.

So she knows.

- Listen, you got to leave in ten hours.

I don't know if she's wrong yet or not.

Your hair's not dyed. You should-

It's 10:30 at night.

Your fucking clothes aren't dry-cleaned.

I should have went down and got you.

I hope so.

- If you're doing what you said you were gonna do,

let's just do it.

We're gonna get in an argument, we're gonna raise our voices,

and your voice is gonna be even...

- I will promise you I will send that text.

Honestly, Bobby, I'm super stressed out right now,

and I'm just-

I'll send her that text,

but I got to finish this merch stuff.

I got to do a bunch of shit for the shows.

- Please relax tonight and take your bath and chill,

and I'm gonna do...

- Did you think this was gonna go any other way?

- Yeah, I did,

because Bobby's been really fucking focused lately.

I mean, he's been really heartbroken over Hallie,

and that, you know, and any time

I need a ten-minute conversation out of him,

I figure it's gonna be an hour 'cause I got to-

50 minutes of Hallie, which is fine.

He's my friend. It's cool.

I know what it's like to suffer that way, and it's cool.

But through it all, he's really getting kind of focused,

and it's like he's focused to prove this to her.

I mean, you know, I think he thinks

if he pulls these two shows off

and shows that he can really do it,

he'll be able to take care of her

and make money and all that.

He's doing these shows just for her.

And now that she's not there, he doesn't want to do 'em,

but he can't back out.

I mean, it's not just me

who's got money and time involved in this.

It's a lot of people.

- "Pentagarm. "

"Pentagarm," it says.

It does. It says g-a-r-m.

That's all right.

I live in hell anyway. What's the fucking difference?

- Check, uh.

Uh-uh.

Hey-hey-hey, check-check-check.

82.

- Yeah, there's my pants.

That's all I'm wearing for pants.

It's just black, tight pants.

This I'm thinking is what people like, 'cause it's paisley.

You know what I mean?

And it's very, very old look.

A '70, you know, '60s, whatever.

It's hippie, all right?

But... you can't out-flamboyant that.

That's a motherfucker, isn't it?

I mean, this is a true-

feel this thing.

Feel how bizarre it feels.

The first time that I started using these clothes,

did I think I'd be breaking them out again?

I thought I'd be throwing them out,

but I don't know about breaking them out.

It's weird, isn't it?

They're all my mom's.

I just thank God above for everything that has transpired,

and the people have phenomenally

astonished me, astounded me

with their devotion and their mega support.

And it's finally caught on to the fact that...

what goes will always come back.

- We came all the way from L.A. for this,

and it's a really important night, obviously.

It's almost like Bobby's return, you know?

- Hey, everybody in the whole place, man,

God bless all of you,

and I mean it from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

I mean it.

- Thank you. - Thank you, Bobby.

- I truly mean it. God bless all of you.

- Bobby!

The legend!

Pentagram!

Pentagram! Pentagram! Pentagram!

- I love you.

God bless all of you.

I can't believe this is real.

I mean, I do.

I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart,

and I mean this deep down inside.

You came through.

Without you, I ain't.

You get my message?

Thank God for all of you!

- Thank you. Thank you.

- Made my fucking lifetime, man.

- Thanks, Bobby. Thank you so much.

I know you're tired. Thank you so much.

- Bobby, that was fucking awesome.

- That was great.

- Thank you, Bobby. That was awesome, man.

It was right on.

- It was overpowering.

I'm still feeling- I'm getting choked up.

I mean, I went from laughing, like, hysterically

to, like, crying.

I just-I can't explain it,

and for me, I just felt like a kid.

To be on the side of the stage and watching my favorite band

at their biggest show ever,

and knowing I had something to do with it, I just-

it's like-it's a fucking Christmas gift, dude.

You know?

It's fucking Hanukkah, Christmas, and Kwanzaa

all in one,

and Bobby Liebling delivering the presents.

It's fucking great.

If it all falls apart now, I'm fucking happy as shit.

If an arrow fucking comes, hits me in the head right now,

I don't care; I feel great.

I'm just psyched, dude.

This is the best night of my life, really.

- I'm alive.

I'm alive, and that's something

that I would have never expected,

and three or four hospital record books

say the same damn thing.

But, you know,

who knows what you got in the cards, right?

You got to spin that wheel.

"Life is like a box of chocolates.

You never know what you're gonna get. "

Okay.

Come out and get your breakfast, baby.

It's sausage and toast.

Hallie? Hal?

- Coming. - You want to come out and eat?

All right?

Here, I'm gonna show them half of the eggs.

I had to scramble them, but they're-

Daddy makes a good breakfast.

- After he played the Webster Hall show,

he started getting the ball rolling again with his work

and had started, like, at least trying

to get out of his parents'

and having something to do

rather than just sitting around and destroying himself.

I had always thought about him.

He'd never left my mind,

and I just called to check on him.

It progressed from there.

From him coming back here to visit and him being sober,

we're just both really happy, and it's pretty harmonious.

Like, I like his intensity

because it's different from what I am,

and we meet, like, somewhere in the middle.

But it's not so outrageous, like how it was.

It's a kind, natural intensity rather than craziness.

It's really been incredible to watch his metamorphosis.

Bobby's like a miracle to me.

I just have to kind of trust my heart and my instincts

in this situation.

I have had to a lot, like, um,

and just trust him because he's more likely

to pan out the way that I want him to

if I trust him sincerely,

instead of, you know, just half-ass,

like, "Okay, we'll see how it goes. "

But, like, just having one foot in the water.

Here-I'm not supposed to do this,

but you can have one more piece of toast.

Here, one more bite for you is all.

After the American tour, we had a very deep, unified period

that I recall pretty well

of bonding with intent of...

this is for eternity.

- We got married the end of November.

- Day before Thanksgiving.

- Yeah, it was the day before Thanksgiving.

- You know, right there. That's it.

It's for life.

You know, love is forever, and love is for two.

- I got to put it on his joke-shop finger too,

the one with the knuckle cut out.

As his wedding finger.

We were getting married, and I was like,

"Aw, I get to put it on his little fucked-up finger. "

- The cute little finger.

- Yeah, my joke-shop finger.

- Yeah, it's like...

- It's like it doesn't have any knuckle.

- Yeah, there's no knuckle.

- We've been through an awful lot

in the two-plus years

that we've, you know, known each other,

and now we're on paper,

and this is Mrs. Robert Liebling.

- I looked at all of your labs.

Everything looks great.

- I am very ecstatically, happily married

and, uh, expecting.

There's a bun in the oven.

I don't know another way to put it, you know?

It's gonna be corny anyway, but it's not corny to me.

It's my whole life.

We're gonna have a baby.

- Hold this?

- Do you have names picked out for girls or boys?

- Yeah, we agree on nothing.

- You can lie down. - We agree on next to nothing.

Sounds about right.

It's, like, coming in and out of my little machine.

- Mm-hmm.

- What a troublemaker.

Come on. Come back.

There we go.

Sounds perfect.

Perfect.

Right where it should be.

That's great.

- That's something I never dreamt would ever come about.

And, um... look out, world.

There's gonna be another me.