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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:43,548 --> 00:00:44,841 MORGAN SPURLOCK: Everywhere you look these days, 4 00:00:44,925 --> 00:00:47,510 it seems like someone's trying to sell you something. 5 00:00:47,761 --> 00:00:49,763 On billboards, posters, stickers, 6 00:00:49,888 --> 00:00:51,890 elevators, gas pumps, airplanes, 7 00:00:51,973 --> 00:00:54,601 cups, napkins, coffee holders, wire hangers. 8 00:00:54,684 --> 00:00:56,436 Even bathrooms. 9 00:00:56,519 --> 00:00:58,063 See, it used to be that when someone 10 00:00:58,146 --> 00:00:59,606 really wanted to sell you something, 11 00:00:59,689 --> 00:01:02,817 they could rely on the good old fashioned 30-second TV spot. 12 00:01:03,151 --> 00:01:05,153 He likes it! Hey, Mikey! 13 00:01:05,278 --> 00:01:06,571 But thanks to the invention of this... 14 00:01:07,739 --> 00:01:08,740 And this... 15 00:01:08,823 --> 00:01:11,326 There's a revolution going on called "Internet." 16 00:01:11,534 --> 00:01:13,912 Fewer and fewer of us are actually sitting through these. 17 00:01:13,995 --> 00:01:15,330 Anything is possible 18 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:17,457 when your man smells like Old Spice and not a lady. 19 00:01:17,624 --> 00:01:20,752 So how's a poor, struggling multimillion-dollar corporation 20 00:01:20,835 --> 00:01:22,837 supposed to let you know they even exist? 21 00:01:22,921 --> 00:01:25,006 Hey, welcome to Morning Joe, brewed by Starbucks! 22 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:26,258 We do have a special guest. 23 00:01:26,341 --> 00:01:28,510 Excuse me, I'm just going to have a sip here of my Starbucks. 24 00:01:28,635 --> 00:01:29,761 Mmm. Mmm. There you go. 25 00:01:29,844 --> 00:01:33,598 Welcome to the brave new world of brand integration. 26 00:01:34,349 --> 00:01:36,518 But you may know it by its old school name... 27 00:01:36,851 --> 00:01:39,354 Converse All Stars, vintage 2004. 28 00:01:39,437 --> 00:01:40,563 ...product placement. 29 00:01:40,647 --> 00:01:41,898 MAN: You can use a Guinness. 30 00:01:41,982 --> 00:01:44,609 SPURLOCK: Today product placement is a multibillion dollar industry 31 00:01:44,693 --> 00:01:46,820 that generates hard cash for movies, 32 00:01:46,903 --> 00:01:48,780 creates new identities for brands, 33 00:01:48,863 --> 00:01:53,576 but most importantly, delivers the holy grail of marketing, co-promotion. 34 00:01:54,369 --> 00:01:56,746 You see, co-promotion is what takes a regular movie 35 00:01:56,830 --> 00:01:58,415 and turns it into a blockbuster. 36 00:01:58,832 --> 00:02:00,125 Take Iron Man. 37 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:02,919 That movie had more than 14 brand partners. 38 00:02:03,003 --> 00:02:06,464 Everything from a Whiplash Whopper, to Iron Man Dr. Pepper cans, 39 00:02:06,548 --> 00:02:09,342 to Tony Stark himself driving off in an Audi commercial. 40 00:02:09,718 --> 00:02:10,802 These types of partnerships 41 00:02:10,885 --> 00:02:13,638 deliver millions of dollars of free advertising for the movie 42 00:02:13,722 --> 00:02:17,267 while also raising visibility for the companies themselves. 43 00:02:17,559 --> 00:02:19,978 But do all these co-promotions actually work? 44 00:02:20,061 --> 00:02:22,397 Do they have that much influence over the choices we make? 45 00:02:22,897 --> 00:02:25,317 Does Shrek make me want to take a Royal Caribbean Cruise 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,319 or Burger King make me wanna go see Twilight? 47 00:02:27,777 --> 00:02:31,323 Is the only thing missing from my movie achieving Iron Man status 48 00:02:31,406 --> 00:02:32,824 a little co-promotion? 49 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:34,534 Well, if that's true, 50 00:02:34,617 --> 00:02:38,455 then I can't wait to get some of that sweet Hollywood ad money. 51 00:02:39,164 --> 00:02:43,585 Last year more than $412 billion were spent on marketing and advertising. 52 00:02:43,835 --> 00:02:45,420 And out of that $412 billion, 53 00:02:45,587 --> 00:02:48,590 just four companies controlled over 75% of it. 54 00:02:49,257 --> 00:02:51,134 If I'm gonna make a doc-buster, 55 00:02:51,259 --> 00:02:54,137 it seems like these companies are a great place to start. 56 00:02:56,431 --> 00:02:57,515 So what I wanna do, 57 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:01,353 is make a film all about product placement marketing and advertising, 58 00:03:01,436 --> 00:03:02,979 where the entire film is funded 59 00:03:03,063 --> 00:03:05,440 by product placement, marketing, and advertising. 60 00:03:05,607 --> 00:03:08,401 So the movie will be called The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 61 00:03:08,485 --> 00:03:11,029 So what happens in The Greatest Movie Ever Sold 62 00:03:11,112 --> 00:03:13,406 is that everything from top to bottom, start to finish, 63 00:03:13,490 --> 00:03:15,241 is branded from beginning to end. 64 00:03:15,325 --> 00:03:17,994 You know, from the above-the-title sponsor that you'll see in the movie 65 00:03:18,078 --> 00:03:19,204 which is brand X. 66 00:03:19,287 --> 00:03:23,666 Now this brand, the Qualcomm Stadium, the Staples Center... 67 00:03:24,042 --> 00:03:26,002 These people will be married to the film in perpetuity, forever. 68 00:03:26,086 --> 00:03:27,128 Mmm. 69 00:03:27,170 --> 00:03:28,713 So the film explores this whole idea... It's redundant. 70 00:03:28,797 --> 00:03:29,923 It's what? It's redundant. 71 00:03:30,006 --> 00:03:31,883 In perpetuity forever? I'm a redundant person. 72 00:03:31,966 --> 00:03:33,760 I'm just saying... (LAUGHS) 73 00:03:33,885 --> 00:03:37,013 That was more for him. It's in perpetuity, period, forever. 74 00:03:37,138 --> 00:03:39,265 SPURLOCK: But not only are we going to have the brand X title sponsor, 75 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:40,350 but we're gonna make it so we can sell out 76 00:03:40,433 --> 00:03:41,976 every category we can in the film. 77 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:43,103 So maybe we sell a shoe, 78 00:03:43,186 --> 00:03:44,604 and it becomes "The Greatest Shoe You Ever Wore." 79 00:03:44,729 --> 00:03:45,980 "The Greatest Car You Ever Drove"' 80 00:03:46,064 --> 00:03:47,273 from The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 81 00:03:47,399 --> 00:03:49,275 You know, "The Greatest Drink You've Ever Had" 82 00:03:49,359 --> 00:03:50,402 courtesy, The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 83 00:03:50,777 --> 00:03:54,739 So the idea is beyond just showing that brands are part of your life, 84 00:03:54,823 --> 00:03:56,324 but actually get them to finance the film. Is that it? 85 00:03:56,408 --> 00:03:57,409 Get them to finance the film 86 00:03:57,492 --> 00:03:59,369 and actually we show the whole process of, "How does it work?" 87 00:03:59,452 --> 00:04:01,538 The goal of this whole film is transparency. 88 00:04:01,621 --> 00:04:03,832 You're going to see the whole thing take place in this movie. 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,627 So that's the whole concept. The whole film, start to finish. 90 00:04:07,794 --> 00:04:09,796 And I would love for CEG to help make it happen. 91 00:04:09,921 --> 00:04:12,507 Hey, you know, it's funny 'cause when I first hear it, 92 00:04:13,341 --> 00:04:17,095 it is the ultimate respect for an audience. 93 00:04:17,345 --> 00:04:21,516 I don't know how receptive people are going to be to it, though. 94 00:04:21,850 --> 00:04:23,226 Do you have a perspective, or... 95 00:04:23,309 --> 00:04:25,937 I don't want to use "angle" cause that sort of has a negative connotation... 96 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:27,564 Do you know how this is going to play out? 97 00:04:27,647 --> 00:04:28,690 SPURLOCK: No idea. 98 00:04:29,107 --> 00:04:31,526 How much money does it take to do this? 99 00:04:31,860 --> 00:04:32,902 $1.5 million. MAN: $1.5 million. 100 00:04:32,986 --> 00:04:33,987 Okay. 101 00:04:34,362 --> 00:04:36,614 I think you're going to have a hard time meeting with them, 102 00:04:36,698 --> 00:04:40,076 but I think it's certainly worth pursuing 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,828 a couple of really big, obvious brands. 104 00:04:41,911 --> 00:04:42,912 Who knows? 105 00:04:42,996 --> 00:04:44,122 Maybe, by the time your film comes out 106 00:04:44,205 --> 00:04:45,999 we look like a bunch of blithering idiots. 107 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:47,459 What do you think the response is going to be? 108 00:04:47,542 --> 00:04:50,628 (STAMMERS) The responses mostly will be no. 109 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,464 SPURLOCK: But is the toughest sell because of the film 110 00:04:52,547 --> 00:04:54,048 or is the toughest sell because of me? 111 00:04:54,215 --> 00:04:55,258 Uh, both. 112 00:04:55,717 --> 00:04:58,720 That meeting, not so optimistic. 113 00:05:00,054 --> 00:05:02,182 So can you help me? I need help. 114 00:05:02,515 --> 00:05:04,184 I can help you. 115 00:05:04,267 --> 00:05:05,268 Good. Good. 116 00:05:06,102 --> 00:05:07,604 Awesome. (LAUGHS) 117 00:05:07,687 --> 00:05:09,355 We got to figure out which brands. 118 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:10,523 Yeah. 119 00:05:11,274 --> 00:05:12,567 That's the challenge. 120 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:14,694 When you look at the people you deal with, or... 121 00:05:14,777 --> 00:05:15,987 We've got some places we can go. 122 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:17,113 Okay. Okay. 123 00:05:17,197 --> 00:05:18,323 Turn the camera off. 124 00:05:19,032 --> 00:05:20,492 SPURLOCK: I thought "turn the camera off" meant 125 00:05:20,575 --> 00:05:22,076 "let's have an off-the-record conversation." 126 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:26,414 Turns out, it really means, "We want nothing to do with your movie." 127 00:05:26,748 --> 00:05:28,500 Luckily, I've got an old friend in the industry 128 00:05:28,583 --> 00:05:30,335 who might be a bit more receptive. 129 00:05:31,002 --> 00:05:33,505 Richard Kirshenbaum has worked in advertising for years 130 00:05:33,588 --> 00:05:35,924 and has made a name for himself and his agency 131 00:05:36,007 --> 00:05:37,717 by not thinking like an agency. 132 00:05:38,218 --> 00:05:40,220 If anyone out there is going to get it, it's him. 133 00:05:40,303 --> 00:05:41,679 So ultimately what we want to try and do, 134 00:05:41,763 --> 00:05:44,432 is create what is the Iron Man of documentaries. 135 00:05:44,599 --> 00:05:47,435 The documentary that when it comes out, has so many partners 136 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:48,686 has so many brands involved... 137 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:51,147 I love the idea that you're actually 138 00:05:51,231 --> 00:05:53,691 selling out, you're admitting selling out... 139 00:05:54,484 --> 00:05:55,693 JON BOND: And therefore not selling out. 140 00:05:55,777 --> 00:05:56,778 And therefore not selling out. 141 00:05:56,861 --> 00:05:57,862 It's genius. 142 00:05:58,196 --> 00:06:00,532 And the story, also, is talking to people 143 00:06:00,615 --> 00:06:02,575 who say this is a problem with the industry, this is wrong. 144 00:06:02,659 --> 00:06:04,494 But then there's people who are like, "How could it be wrong? 145 00:06:04,577 --> 00:06:05,703 "It's where we started in television. 146 00:06:05,787 --> 00:06:06,871 "It's where we started in film." 147 00:06:06,955 --> 00:06:10,542 So the film is about the marketing of movies. 148 00:06:10,625 --> 00:06:12,293 And I want to be a sponsor. 149 00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:14,295 You guys can tell me better than anyone else 150 00:06:14,379 --> 00:06:17,006 what the, kind of like, "Here's what we pay you for these things." 151 00:06:17,090 --> 00:06:18,800 And so you start to see these things come to fruition 152 00:06:18,883 --> 00:06:20,093 over the course of the film. KIRSHENBAUM: Right. 153 00:06:20,176 --> 00:06:23,096 So you're willing to sell out completely, personally, to do this? 154 00:06:24,013 --> 00:06:25,181 Whatever it takes. Great. 155 00:06:25,473 --> 00:06:26,808 So what do we do now? 156 00:06:27,684 --> 00:06:30,353 I think the thing to do is go get a client. 157 00:06:30,645 --> 00:06:31,646 (LAUGHS) Get one. 158 00:06:31,771 --> 00:06:32,772 Thank you. Great to see you. 159 00:06:32,855 --> 00:06:34,482 This is going to be fun. Yeah, thanks, guys. 160 00:06:34,816 --> 00:06:37,527 SPURLOCK: To get my first client, I need to understand two things. 161 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:39,696 Who would actually sponsor this movie? 162 00:06:39,779 --> 00:06:41,823 And how I'm supposed to talk to them. 163 00:06:41,906 --> 00:06:44,075 Britt Johnson is the president of Media Placement, 164 00:06:44,158 --> 00:06:46,953 one of the most successful product placement agencies in the country. 165 00:06:47,203 --> 00:06:50,081 And David Wales is the president of the Ministry of Culture 166 00:06:50,164 --> 00:06:53,751 and makes his living predicting the next big trends in advertising. 167 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,878 If we were going out to sell somebody 168 00:06:55,962 --> 00:06:58,339 to be a product or brand in the film, 169 00:06:58,548 --> 00:06:59,591 what's that worth? 170 00:06:59,674 --> 00:07:02,260 It depends on how many people you reach. 171 00:07:02,343 --> 00:07:03,428 Dozens. 172 00:07:03,511 --> 00:07:04,596 Dozens? (LAUGHS) 173 00:07:04,679 --> 00:07:05,930 This movie is going to reach dozens of people. 174 00:07:06,014 --> 00:07:07,015 It would depend how many people you reach. 175 00:07:07,432 --> 00:07:09,017 How do I figure out who I should go after? 176 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:10,184 I would just go for everybody. 177 00:07:11,019 --> 00:07:12,520 As long as the check clears. 178 00:07:12,604 --> 00:07:13,688 Yeah, as long as the check clears. 179 00:07:13,771 --> 00:07:14,772 The one good thing is, 180 00:07:14,856 --> 00:07:16,107 you might be able to get a lot of the things paid for. 181 00:07:16,190 --> 00:07:17,233 That's a good question. 182 00:07:17,317 --> 00:07:18,651 What are the things we should be looking for 183 00:07:18,735 --> 00:07:19,777 to try and get for free? 184 00:07:19,944 --> 00:07:21,988 I think you might be able to get a beer brand. 185 00:07:22,322 --> 00:07:25,825 Hotels, air service, computers, car. 186 00:07:26,242 --> 00:07:28,036 You definitely should have a sports car. 187 00:07:28,411 --> 00:07:29,621 What about clothing? 188 00:07:29,954 --> 00:07:31,414 Yeah! Clothing? Can you get clothing? 189 00:07:31,497 --> 00:07:32,582 Yeah, clothing would be easy. 190 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:34,375 How do I make a company want to be in this movie? 191 00:07:34,542 --> 00:07:38,087 You start by acknowledging that you yourself are a brand. Right? 192 00:07:38,379 --> 00:07:40,840 What's your brand collateral? What are you bringing to the table? 193 00:07:41,049 --> 00:07:42,592 I guess that's what you need to figure out 194 00:07:42,717 --> 00:07:44,719 in terms of making yourself appealing to them. 195 00:07:45,053 --> 00:07:47,764 How would you guys describe your brand? 196 00:07:49,932 --> 00:07:51,976 Um. My brand? 197 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:54,062 I don't know like... 198 00:07:54,896 --> 00:07:56,481 I like really nice clothes. 199 00:07:56,731 --> 00:07:59,567 '80s revival meets skater punk. 200 00:08:00,068 --> 00:08:01,861 Unless it's laundry day. 201 00:08:02,236 --> 00:08:05,948 The brand that I am is... I would call it "Casual Fly." 202 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:07,575 If Dan were a brand, 203 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:13,039 he might be a classic convertible Mercedes-Benz. 204 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,919 Part hippie, part yogi, part Brooklyn girl? I don't know. 205 00:08:18,378 --> 00:08:20,129 Failed writer, alcoholic brand? 206 00:08:20,213 --> 00:08:21,756 (LAUGHS) Is that something? 207 00:08:22,256 --> 00:08:24,759 SPURLOCK: I think most of Hollywood has that brand covered. 208 00:08:24,842 --> 00:08:26,552 For me to get any companies on board, 209 00:08:26,636 --> 00:08:28,763 I first need to understand what I'm offering them. 210 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:31,099 That's where Olson Zaltman comes in. 211 00:08:31,182 --> 00:08:33,518 By using an intense form of psychoanalysis, 212 00:08:33,601 --> 00:08:36,688 they've helped companies like Hallmark, Nestlé, and Febreze 213 00:08:36,771 --> 00:08:40,066 better understand what they call their brand personality. 214 00:08:41,693 --> 00:08:43,319 You brought your pictures, right? I did. 215 00:08:43,444 --> 00:08:46,948 The very first picture, is a picture of my family. 216 00:08:47,115 --> 00:08:48,116 So tell me about how it relates 217 00:08:48,199 --> 00:08:50,201 to your thoughts and feelings about who you are. 218 00:08:50,576 --> 00:08:51,536 These are the people who 219 00:08:51,619 --> 00:08:52,704 shaped the way I look at the world. 220 00:08:52,954 --> 00:08:54,372 Tell me about this world. 221 00:08:54,455 --> 00:08:57,875 I think your world is the world that you live in. 222 00:08:57,959 --> 00:08:59,919 The people that are around you, your friends, your family. 223 00:09:00,002 --> 00:09:01,838 The way you live your life, the job you do. 224 00:09:02,463 --> 00:09:04,716 All those things stemmed and started from one place. 225 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:05,967 And for me, they stemmed and started 226 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:07,468 with my family in West Virginia. 227 00:09:07,552 --> 00:09:08,720 What's the next one you wanna talk about? 228 00:09:08,803 --> 00:09:10,972 The next one... This was the best day ever. 229 00:09:11,055 --> 00:09:13,349 How does this relate to your thoughts and feelings about who you are? 230 00:09:13,433 --> 00:09:15,059 It's like, "Who do I wanna be?" 231 00:09:15,143 --> 00:09:17,812 I like things that are different. I like things that are weird. 232 00:09:18,187 --> 00:09:19,355 (LAUGHING) I like weird things. 233 00:09:19,647 --> 00:09:21,816 Tell me about the "why" phase. What does that do for us? 234 00:09:21,983 --> 00:09:24,277 What is the machete? What pupa stage are you in now? 235 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,738 Why is it important to reboot? What does the red represent... 236 00:09:26,821 --> 00:09:28,406 Tell me a little bit about that harp. 237 00:09:28,489 --> 00:09:30,575 What is it about you that's not who you are? 238 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,244 (ABIGAIL's SPEECH OVERLAPPING) 239 00:09:34,412 --> 00:09:35,413 (MOCK SCREAMS) 240 00:09:36,622 --> 00:09:38,332 Thank you. Yeah, thanks for your patience. 241 00:09:38,458 --> 00:09:40,209 Great job. Thanks a lot. All right. 242 00:09:41,169 --> 00:09:43,713 Yeah, I don't know what's going to come of this. 243 00:09:43,796 --> 00:09:44,756 There was a whole lot 244 00:09:44,839 --> 00:09:45,882 of crazy going on in there. 245 00:09:46,257 --> 00:09:47,592 The first thing we saw 246 00:09:47,675 --> 00:09:52,054 was this idea that you had two distinct but complementary sides 247 00:09:52,138 --> 00:09:53,806 to your brand personality. 248 00:09:53,890 --> 00:09:56,517 The Morgan Spurlock brand is a mindful play brand. 249 00:09:56,601 --> 00:09:58,728 Those are juxtaposed very nicely together, 250 00:09:58,811 --> 00:10:00,688 and I think there's almost a paradox with those. 251 00:10:00,772 --> 00:10:04,776 And I think some companies will just focus on one of their strengths 252 00:10:04,901 --> 00:10:07,111 or the other, instead of focusing on both. 253 00:10:07,236 --> 00:10:10,656 Most companies tend to, and it's human nature, 254 00:10:10,865 --> 00:10:13,826 to avoid things that they are not sure of, avoid fear, 255 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:15,703 those elements, and you really embrace those. 256 00:10:15,787 --> 00:10:18,831 And you actually turn them into positives for you. It's a neat thing to see. 257 00:10:18,915 --> 00:10:20,541 What other brands are like that? 258 00:10:20,625 --> 00:10:22,877 The first one here is a classic, Apple. 259 00:10:23,002 --> 00:10:26,798 And you can see here, Target, Wii, 260 00:10:26,881 --> 00:10:29,008 MINI from Mini Coopers, and JetBlue. 261 00:10:29,091 --> 00:10:31,302 Now there's playful brands and mindful brands. 262 00:10:31,385 --> 00:10:33,471 Those sorts of things that have come and gone, 263 00:10:33,554 --> 00:10:36,516 but a playful mindful brand is a pretty powerful thing. 264 00:10:37,058 --> 00:10:38,059 Awesome. 265 00:10:39,477 --> 00:10:41,395 That's good. That's a good thing. 266 00:10:41,687 --> 00:10:44,232 Now that I know what type of brand personality I have 267 00:10:44,315 --> 00:10:45,775 it's time to figure out what other companies 268 00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:47,485 would want to be in business with someone 269 00:10:47,568 --> 00:10:49,111 as mindful and playful as myself. 270 00:10:49,695 --> 00:10:51,989 Time for a little brand recon. 271 00:10:54,075 --> 00:10:55,409 (DIALING PHONE) 272 00:10:57,370 --> 00:10:59,789 Nothing like a cold call 273 00:11:01,499 --> 00:11:03,793 to show exactly how little power you have. 274 00:11:06,087 --> 00:11:08,589 This movie is brought to you by Apple Zings. 275 00:11:08,881 --> 00:11:11,467 Crisco. Kenneth Cole. Prada. Paul Smith. 276 00:11:11,926 --> 00:11:15,221 OPERATOR 1: Welcome to the Johnson & Johnson Company's world headquarters. 277 00:11:15,304 --> 00:11:16,430 OPERATOR 2: Starbucks Coffee? 278 00:11:16,514 --> 00:11:17,723 OPERATOR 3: Thanks for calling Target Corporation. 279 00:11:17,932 --> 00:11:19,141 Ben & Jerry's. 280 00:11:19,308 --> 00:11:20,309 Licefreee! 281 00:11:20,434 --> 00:11:21,519 Carmex. 282 00:11:21,602 --> 00:11:23,771 This film is brought to you by B complex. 283 00:11:24,021 --> 00:11:25,022 (WOMAN 1 ON PHONE) 284 00:11:25,106 --> 00:11:27,400 Documentaries are not as seen as feature films. 285 00:11:27,483 --> 00:11:28,484 (WOMAN 2 ON PHONE) 286 00:11:28,568 --> 00:11:30,736 I can't do it. I'm the Director of Public Relations for Guess. 287 00:11:30,945 --> 00:11:35,533 We will never put Morgan, your average Joe, on a billboard, ever. 288 00:11:35,616 --> 00:11:36,576 (MAN ON PHONE) 289 00:11:36,659 --> 00:11:37,660 You're making a film about that? OK. 290 00:11:37,743 --> 00:11:38,744 I am. 291 00:11:41,831 --> 00:11:44,000 We would love it for JetBlue to be the official airline. 292 00:11:44,083 --> 00:11:45,209 What is the greatest car you could drive? 293 00:11:45,293 --> 00:11:47,336 I think it's got to be a Ford. 294 00:11:47,420 --> 00:11:48,379 The Volkswagen. 295 00:11:48,462 --> 00:11:50,131 The Lexus hybrid being the official car. 296 00:11:50,214 --> 00:11:51,257 BlackBerry phone. 297 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:52,341 Seventh Generation. 298 00:11:52,425 --> 00:11:53,593 Huge fan of Fluevogs. 299 00:11:53,718 --> 00:11:56,095 We got a fax from Volkswagen. 300 00:11:56,178 --> 00:11:58,139 "It is my understanding that you discussed with our agent, 301 00:11:58,347 --> 00:11:59,891 "DDB Entertainment International, 302 00:11:59,974 --> 00:12:01,392 "the possibility of our involvement 303 00:12:01,475 --> 00:12:03,895 "in an upcoming documentary film directed by Morgan Spurlock 304 00:12:03,978 --> 00:12:06,397 "that will explore product placement in the movies. 305 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,815 "After due consideration, 306 00:12:07,899 --> 00:12:11,569 "Volkswagen Group of America Incorporated and DDB 307 00:12:11,652 --> 00:12:15,865 "have determined that it is not in Volkswagen's best interest 308 00:12:15,948 --> 00:12:20,202 "to be involved in this documentary in any manner. In any manner." 309 00:12:20,286 --> 00:12:21,913 Diet Coke. Levi's. 310 00:12:21,996 --> 00:12:23,831 Be stupid, Diesel. 311 00:12:23,915 --> 00:12:24,916 (MAN 1 ON PHONE) 312 00:12:24,999 --> 00:12:26,000 It's not something that we do. 313 00:12:26,083 --> 00:12:27,084 SPURLOCK: Think how great it would be. 314 00:12:27,168 --> 00:12:28,169 The Greatest Movie Ever Sold video game. 315 00:12:28,252 --> 00:12:29,253 (WOMAN 1 ON PHONE) 316 00:12:29,337 --> 00:12:30,421 We're just unable to participate. 317 00:12:30,504 --> 00:12:32,715 SPURLOCK: What about if in the film, we had either a cowboy 318 00:12:32,798 --> 00:12:35,259 or an animated camel smoking your brand? 319 00:12:35,343 --> 00:12:36,385 (MAN 2 ON PHONE) 320 00:12:36,469 --> 00:12:38,554 My... My response is, we really don't wanna be in the film. 321 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,722 (MAN 3 ON PHONE) 322 00:12:39,805 --> 00:12:42,558 I mean, it doesn't sound like a movie that I would be excited about going to. 323 00:12:42,642 --> 00:12:44,477 Right. So why wouldn't you want to go see this movie? 324 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:45,603 (WOMAN 2 ON PHONE) 325 00:12:45,686 --> 00:12:46,687 It goes against everything that we do. 326 00:12:46,771 --> 00:12:47,772 What if we loaded it with nudity? 327 00:12:47,855 --> 00:12:48,814 (MAN 4 ON PHONE) 328 00:12:48,898 --> 00:12:50,024 Yes, that would help. 329 00:12:52,443 --> 00:12:53,569 Indian Vegetable Korma. 330 00:12:53,653 --> 00:12:54,737 The official grandpa slipper. 331 00:12:54,862 --> 00:12:55,821 (MAN 5 ON PHONE) 332 00:12:55,905 --> 00:12:56,989 I've got too many other things to think about. 333 00:12:57,073 --> 00:13:00,201 Can we please get Mane 'n Tail to be the sponsor? 334 00:13:00,493 --> 00:13:01,911 (LAUGHING) 335 00:13:04,246 --> 00:13:06,999 If it's good enough for your horse, it's good enough for you. 336 00:13:07,124 --> 00:13:08,501 Mane 'n Tail. 337 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:10,294 (LAUGHING) I want this. This is the best. 338 00:13:15,549 --> 00:13:19,595 You gotta love a product that says, "Directions for human use." 339 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,766 And then, it says, "Directions for animal use." 340 00:13:30,314 --> 00:13:31,399 Mmm. 341 00:13:31,732 --> 00:13:33,025 Smells like a pretty horse. 342 00:13:33,401 --> 00:13:35,236 We're calling Mane 'n Tail. 343 00:13:40,241 --> 00:13:42,451 (ON VOICEMAIL) Hey, Morgan, it's Richard. I've got some great news. 344 00:13:42,535 --> 00:13:44,537 It looks like we have a client who would love to hear your pitch. 345 00:13:44,620 --> 00:13:45,705 Give me a call back. 346 00:13:52,795 --> 00:13:55,756 It's our first big pitch, with a real brand. 347 00:13:56,465 --> 00:13:58,092 Richard Kirshenbaum hooked the whole thing up 348 00:13:58,175 --> 00:14:00,011 with one of his clients. 349 00:14:01,762 --> 00:14:04,265 So this is it. It's on! It's real right now. 350 00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:07,059 I want to introduce you to Morgan. 351 00:14:07,059 --> 00:14:08,144 I want to introduce you to Morgan. 352 00:14:08,227 --> 00:14:09,311 Hi. 353 00:14:10,479 --> 00:14:12,023 Hi, how are you? I'm Morgan Spurlock. Beth Jones. 354 00:14:12,106 --> 00:14:14,233 I have friends who make great, big, giant Hollywood films 355 00:14:14,316 --> 00:14:16,736 and I have friends who make little independent films like I make. 356 00:14:16,944 --> 00:14:19,780 And the friends of mine who make big giant Hollywood movies 357 00:14:19,864 --> 00:14:21,407 say that the reason their films are so successful 358 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:23,284 is because of the brand partners that they have. 359 00:14:23,409 --> 00:14:25,578 And then my friends who make small independent films say, 360 00:14:25,786 --> 00:14:27,204 "Well how are we supposed to compete 361 00:14:27,288 --> 00:14:28,789 "with these big, giant Hollywood movies?" 362 00:14:28,873 --> 00:14:32,460 And the movie is called The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 363 00:14:32,793 --> 00:14:35,463 So now how specifically will we see Ban in the film? 364 00:14:36,088 --> 00:14:37,548 See anytime I'm getting ready to go, 365 00:14:37,631 --> 00:14:39,091 anytime I open my medicine cabinet, 366 00:14:39,175 --> 00:14:41,385 you will see Ban Deodorant. 367 00:14:41,469 --> 00:14:43,679 While anytime I do an interview with someone, 368 00:14:43,971 --> 00:14:47,141 I can say, "Are you fresh enough for this interview? 369 00:14:47,433 --> 00:14:48,934 "Are you ready? You look a little nervous. 370 00:14:49,101 --> 00:14:51,270 "I want to help you calm down, so maybe you should... 371 00:14:51,645 --> 00:14:53,230 "Maybe you should put some on before the interview." 372 00:14:53,314 --> 00:14:55,399 So we'll offer one of these fabulous scents. 373 00:14:55,483 --> 00:14:57,651 Whether it's a Floral Fusion or Paradise Winds, 374 00:14:57,777 --> 00:14:58,861 they'll have their chance. 375 00:14:58,986 --> 00:15:02,073 We'll have them geared for both male or female, 376 00:15:02,323 --> 00:15:04,408 solid roll-on or stick, or whatever it may be. 377 00:15:04,950 --> 00:15:07,203 That's the two-cent tour. 378 00:15:07,411 --> 00:15:09,205 So now I can answer any of your questions 379 00:15:09,288 --> 00:15:10,998 and give you the five-cent tour. 380 00:15:11,082 --> 00:15:12,083 We are a smaller brand, 381 00:15:12,166 --> 00:15:15,419 much like you talked about being a smaller movie. 382 00:15:15,503 --> 00:15:17,088 We're very much a challenger brand 383 00:15:17,171 --> 00:15:19,340 so we don't have the budgets that other brands have. 384 00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:22,760 So doing things like this, remind people about Ban, 385 00:15:22,843 --> 00:15:24,762 is why we're interested in it. 386 00:15:24,845 --> 00:15:26,680 What are the words you would use to describe Ban? 387 00:15:26,847 --> 00:15:28,140 Ban is blank. 388 00:15:30,518 --> 00:15:33,062 That's a great question. 389 00:15:34,897 --> 00:15:36,023 Uh. 390 00:15:37,316 --> 00:15:39,401 Ban is superior technology. 391 00:15:39,985 --> 00:15:41,445 Technology's not the way you want to describe 392 00:15:41,529 --> 00:15:42,530 something somebody's putting in their armpit. 393 00:15:42,613 --> 00:15:45,074 We talk about bold. Fresh. 394 00:15:45,282 --> 00:15:47,034 I think fresh is a great word that really 395 00:15:47,118 --> 00:15:48,828 spins this category into the positive 396 00:15:48,994 --> 00:15:51,288 versus the "fights odor and wetness." 397 00:15:51,372 --> 00:15:53,040 It keeps you fresh. 398 00:15:53,165 --> 00:15:54,667 How do we keep you fresher longer? 399 00:15:54,750 --> 00:15:56,210 Better freshness, more freshness. 400 00:15:56,460 --> 00:15:57,545 Three times fresher. 401 00:15:57,628 --> 00:16:00,548 Things like that that are, you know, more of that positive benefit. 402 00:16:00,631 --> 00:16:03,467 When it comes down to cost and things like that, 403 00:16:03,592 --> 00:16:05,302 do we have to have a sideline conversation about that? 404 00:16:05,386 --> 00:16:07,346 About what things will cost in this film, or what? 405 00:16:07,429 --> 00:16:08,472 Yeah, to participate. 406 00:16:08,556 --> 00:16:09,557 No, we can talk about it now. 407 00:16:09,765 --> 00:16:11,100 Okay. What do you project? 408 00:16:11,267 --> 00:16:13,144 We're trying to sell the above-the-title sponsorship, 409 00:16:13,227 --> 00:16:15,563 the naming rights for a million dollars. 410 00:16:15,729 --> 00:16:17,398 All the way down to brand partners 411 00:16:17,565 --> 00:16:21,819 who will come in for anywhere from $25,000 to $100,000. 412 00:16:21,902 --> 00:16:24,071 What about concerns that you would have, 413 00:16:24,655 --> 00:16:26,198 or things that you would be worried about? 414 00:16:26,282 --> 00:16:28,993 You have a somewhat controversial reputation. 415 00:16:29,076 --> 00:16:32,079 How can you assure us that it'll be done in a positive light? 416 00:16:32,246 --> 00:16:34,582 I think, when it comes to all of the brand partners... 417 00:16:34,832 --> 00:16:38,419 Like the way that Ban will be portrayed in the film will be... 418 00:16:38,711 --> 00:16:40,045 There's no way I would disparage Ban 419 00:16:40,212 --> 00:16:41,797 because, again, at the end of the day you are my partner. 420 00:16:41,922 --> 00:16:43,674 I think that was the main concern. JONES: Yeah. 421 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:45,509 I don't know that we have... 422 00:16:45,593 --> 00:16:47,386 We're pretty excited about it. 423 00:16:47,469 --> 00:16:48,888 Is there a number that you guys want to hit 424 00:16:48,971 --> 00:16:51,182 that's the amount you'd want to commit to something like this? 425 00:16:52,224 --> 00:16:54,852 I think in that 50-range. I think you were talking... 426 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,187 Amazing! That's great. Great to meet you. 427 00:16:56,312 --> 00:16:57,438 Great to meet you. 428 00:16:57,521 --> 00:16:58,856 Great meeting you. Great presentation. 429 00:16:58,939 --> 00:17:00,107 Thank you. 430 00:17:00,274 --> 00:17:01,442 We're really looking forward to it. 431 00:17:02,109 --> 00:17:04,695 One down, about 15 to go. 432 00:17:05,654 --> 00:17:07,740 But I mean, as they say, 433 00:17:07,823 --> 00:17:08,866 (SNIFFING) 434 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:10,534 Smells like a brand new day. 435 00:17:10,701 --> 00:17:11,911 With Ban on board, 436 00:17:11,994 --> 00:17:14,455 Richard thought I should talk to an old lawyer friend of his. 437 00:17:14,622 --> 00:17:16,957 That way, I know exactly what I can promise folks, 438 00:17:17,041 --> 00:17:19,168 not to mention, what I can and can't say about them. 439 00:17:19,251 --> 00:17:20,669 Hey, Rick? Yes. 440 00:17:20,753 --> 00:17:21,921 Hi. I'm Morgan Spurlock. 441 00:17:22,004 --> 00:17:23,130 Hi. Nice to see you. 442 00:17:23,214 --> 00:17:24,423 Good to see you. How've you been? Good. 443 00:17:24,965 --> 00:17:27,593 Richard called you, told you about the film we're about to make 444 00:17:27,676 --> 00:17:30,429 and we need some real legal advice. 445 00:17:30,930 --> 00:17:33,224 We're making a movie called The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 446 00:17:33,307 --> 00:17:34,308 The most important question, 447 00:17:34,391 --> 00:17:37,061 what's going to keep me from getting sued in making this movie? 448 00:17:37,144 --> 00:17:38,562 I think you'll probably be okay 449 00:17:38,646 --> 00:17:42,441 because the whole set up of the film establishes the context. 450 00:17:42,524 --> 00:17:45,986 So I can say something's the "greatest" and not have an issue with it? 451 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,404 Yes. 452 00:17:47,488 --> 00:17:51,492 Film can be a documentary, in which case everything should be real, 453 00:17:51,659 --> 00:17:53,327 and film can be completely fiction. 454 00:17:53,410 --> 00:17:56,538 And most commercials, most advertising is slice of life, 455 00:17:56,622 --> 00:17:58,290 it's completely fictional. 456 00:17:58,415 --> 00:18:02,002 The flip side of that, we sometimes call "faction." 457 00:18:02,086 --> 00:18:03,337 So wait. What's "faction"? 458 00:18:03,629 --> 00:18:06,715 Faction is when you've combined documentary, 459 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:12,137 or factual, or historical information with speculation or fiction. 460 00:18:12,388 --> 00:18:15,724 Where you've got a mix of fact 461 00:18:15,891 --> 00:18:18,852 and then something that you as a director, 462 00:18:18,936 --> 00:18:21,105 or an author writing a book, 463 00:18:21,355 --> 00:18:24,942 really has an obligation to indicate to the audience 464 00:18:25,401 --> 00:18:28,529 what is the historical fact and what is the speculation 465 00:18:28,612 --> 00:18:30,864 in a typical work of faction. 466 00:18:30,948 --> 00:18:34,868 If I say that these are the greatest sunglasses anybody could ever wear, 467 00:18:35,035 --> 00:18:36,245 in The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 468 00:18:36,370 --> 00:18:38,247 Can I... On the inverse, 469 00:18:38,372 --> 00:18:39,999 can I say that every other sunglasses 470 00:18:40,082 --> 00:18:41,709 are the worst sunglasses ever made? 471 00:18:41,917 --> 00:18:43,752 You know, if you're saying everything 472 00:18:43,836 --> 00:18:45,129 that's a sponsor is the greatest 473 00:18:45,212 --> 00:18:47,423 and everything else is trash, 474 00:18:47,506 --> 00:18:50,217 people seeing the film are going to get that you're making a point 475 00:18:50,384 --> 00:18:53,137 and that it's not a personal endorsement. 476 00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:57,516 So, you're a very powerful attorney here in New York City. 477 00:18:57,599 --> 00:18:59,268 You're a partner in the firm. 478 00:18:59,518 --> 00:19:01,395 So how much did this hour just cost me? 479 00:19:01,729 --> 00:19:02,896 (LAUGHING) 480 00:19:03,022 --> 00:19:05,024 My rate's $770 an hour. 481 00:19:05,858 --> 00:19:10,070 But, advertising has its value so this is advertising for me. 482 00:19:10,237 --> 00:19:14,033 So the question is how much does it cost me to be in your movie? 483 00:19:15,284 --> 00:19:16,827 SPURLOCK: All the big Hollywood blockbusters have 484 00:19:16,910 --> 00:19:18,454 tie-ins with fast food restaurants. 485 00:19:18,787 --> 00:19:20,247 Cups, toys, you name it. 486 00:19:20,748 --> 00:19:22,291 None of those guys would call me back. 487 00:19:22,541 --> 00:19:24,626 But I did find one Central Pennsylvania staple 488 00:19:24,752 --> 00:19:26,420 who thought this could be right up their alley. 489 00:19:27,087 --> 00:19:29,882 They were so excited they even flew me to their offices 490 00:19:29,965 --> 00:19:32,217 in their private plane. 491 00:19:32,885 --> 00:19:34,762 As I said, I am a fan of Sheetz. 492 00:19:35,346 --> 00:19:37,097 I love Sheetz. 493 00:19:37,181 --> 00:19:38,182 Are you blowing sunshine up our ass? 494 00:19:38,265 --> 00:19:39,266 I am. 495 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:40,517 Okay. In a great way. 496 00:19:40,601 --> 00:19:41,602 (ALL LAUGHING) 497 00:19:41,685 --> 00:19:43,395 Shameless marketing. 498 00:19:43,479 --> 00:19:46,648 More shameless plugs, that's what we want to do for Sheetz. 499 00:19:46,815 --> 00:19:48,942 We're going to be traveling around talking 500 00:19:49,026 --> 00:19:51,111 about the impact of product placement, marketing and advertising, 501 00:19:51,195 --> 00:19:52,780 talking to people along the way. 502 00:19:52,863 --> 00:19:54,448 And where better to talk to people, 503 00:19:54,531 --> 00:19:56,200 than at a Sheetz? STAN: True. 504 00:19:56,283 --> 00:19:57,701 At a gas pump. 505 00:19:57,785 --> 00:19:59,870 I want to hear people, what they think about products. 506 00:19:59,953 --> 00:20:01,121 What do they think about Sheetz? 507 00:20:01,205 --> 00:20:02,831 And again, when we're going to interview people 508 00:20:02,915 --> 00:20:04,333 we wanna make sure we interview people 509 00:20:04,458 --> 00:20:05,918 right inside of a Sheetz location. 510 00:20:06,251 --> 00:20:08,337 We want to sit down and have interviews with someone who... 511 00:20:08,420 --> 00:20:09,546 Have a sandwich. 512 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:10,714 Yeah, we'll have a sandwich. 513 00:20:10,923 --> 00:20:13,717 Here I am enjoying a meatball sub talking to this gentleman. 514 00:20:13,801 --> 00:20:16,011 We're talking about product placement. 515 00:20:16,261 --> 00:20:17,638 And so maybe we'll talk to somebody 516 00:20:17,721 --> 00:20:19,098 who's against product placement, 517 00:20:19,181 --> 00:20:21,475 who's against advertising, against marketing in films. 518 00:20:21,642 --> 00:20:23,519 We'll talk to them inside of a Sheetz. 519 00:20:23,727 --> 00:20:24,937 While they have the product in their hand. 520 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:26,438 Of course. That's the best part. 521 00:20:26,563 --> 00:20:28,315 Cool. All right, yeah. 522 00:20:28,982 --> 00:20:31,026 And for me, what I'm really excited about, 523 00:20:31,151 --> 00:20:34,530 is to have Sheetz be the home of our collector cups. 524 00:20:34,905 --> 00:20:38,534 Of course, the fleet truck, (MIMICS HONKING) for The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 525 00:20:38,617 --> 00:20:39,993 There's the cup where you'll get 526 00:20:40,077 --> 00:20:41,745 The Greatest Floozie You'll Ever Drink. 527 00:20:41,829 --> 00:20:42,830 Right inside there. 528 00:20:42,913 --> 00:20:45,833 And of course, "Holy Sheetz, I can't believe how many choices there are!" 529 00:20:46,291 --> 00:20:48,836 "Collect all four at your Sheetz." 530 00:20:49,545 --> 00:20:52,297 See? First time ever, documentary with collector cups. 531 00:20:52,798 --> 00:20:54,425 They're going to be on that like a wet T-shirt. 532 00:20:54,550 --> 00:20:57,761 That's right. That's big right there. That's big. 533 00:20:57,928 --> 00:21:00,973 What do you think are the probability of negative press is? 534 00:21:01,056 --> 00:21:05,352 Is that, like, "Here's this jerk who's making 535 00:21:05,436 --> 00:21:09,648 "this horrible, horrible marketing movie 536 00:21:09,857 --> 00:21:12,693 "with the assumption that Americans are idiots." 537 00:21:13,318 --> 00:21:16,029 Okay? And then that's what they talk about on E! or something. 538 00:21:16,113 --> 00:21:20,325 "Morgan is an idiot and he thinks all of Americans are idiots 539 00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:23,036 "and all the people who sponsored this film are idiots. 540 00:21:23,162 --> 00:21:25,873 "They're bigger idiots." What does that do to our brand? 541 00:21:25,998 --> 00:21:29,293 This film will literally talk about this thing that is in front of all of us. 542 00:21:29,376 --> 00:21:31,587 That is, literally, right there every day 543 00:21:31,670 --> 00:21:33,630 and bring it home in a way that just makes us think about it, 544 00:21:33,714 --> 00:21:36,091 recognize it. I don't think people will look at you like you're stupid. 545 00:21:36,175 --> 00:21:37,593 I think people will look at you like, 546 00:21:37,676 --> 00:21:39,052 "These people were brave enough 547 00:21:39,219 --> 00:21:41,305 "to be a part of this because they're not afraid of their brand." 548 00:21:41,388 --> 00:21:42,723 Is there a plot? 549 00:21:42,806 --> 00:21:44,475 Or is it just shameless marketing? 550 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:50,105 No. The plot is literally me trying to find the people to support a film like this, 551 00:21:50,439 --> 00:21:53,901 that talks about the topic. This is the... This is the movie right now. 552 00:21:54,109 --> 00:21:55,527 This is it. It's happening. 553 00:21:55,611 --> 00:21:57,321 Is there a base number, though, 554 00:21:57,404 --> 00:21:59,072 of what you guys are comfortable saying, 555 00:21:59,239 --> 00:22:00,991 "We'll commit to this"? Yes. 556 00:22:01,116 --> 00:22:04,203 A hundred. We had said we'd commit to 100 as a base. 557 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:06,121 Thank you. It was a pleasure. 558 00:22:06,205 --> 00:22:07,414 It was a pleasure to meet you. 559 00:22:08,207 --> 00:22:09,583 STAN: Can we take these mics off? 560 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:11,668 Couldn't have gone any better than that I don't think. 561 00:22:12,419 --> 00:22:13,545 Or maybe it could have. 562 00:22:13,754 --> 00:22:15,672 I don't know if he's blowing sunshine up our ass 563 00:22:15,756 --> 00:22:17,508 trying to get money out of us, or... 564 00:22:17,591 --> 00:22:19,760 You know, I mean, what's going on here? 565 00:22:19,843 --> 00:22:22,179 This is all about marketing, you know what I mean? 566 00:22:22,554 --> 00:22:24,806 Are we really friends yet? 567 00:22:25,349 --> 00:22:27,142 I don't know if we're friends yet. 568 00:22:27,351 --> 00:22:29,102 SPURLOCK: Meanwhile, on the other side of the country, 569 00:22:29,186 --> 00:22:31,396 I think I may have finally found a drink sponsor. 570 00:22:31,647 --> 00:22:33,982 It's not Coke or Pepsi. They wouldn't call me back either. 571 00:22:34,066 --> 00:22:37,236 It turns out, though, that POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice 572 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:42,157 is filled with antioxidants, is apparently 40% as effective as Viagra, 573 00:22:42,241 --> 00:22:44,701 and is a multimillion dollar corporation 574 00:22:44,785 --> 00:22:46,787 that takes a unique approach to marketing. 575 00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:49,998 The way that I wanna see POM, or when we first see POM in the movie, 576 00:22:50,123 --> 00:22:52,417 or find out you are on, is we get the call. 577 00:22:52,918 --> 00:22:55,462 Maybe you guys are gonna be in, "We're gonna do it. 578 00:22:55,546 --> 00:22:56,838 "We wanna be the official beverage." 579 00:22:56,964 --> 00:22:59,967 And so then every other beverage in the movie is blurred out. 580 00:23:00,133 --> 00:23:01,218 (LAUGHING) 581 00:23:01,301 --> 00:23:03,095 We will never see another beverage in the movie. 582 00:23:03,178 --> 00:23:05,180 Every other thing will start to become blurry except for POM. 583 00:23:05,264 --> 00:23:06,306 There's been all those times where 584 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:08,517 there's been product placement in movies 585 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,394 and integration. We want to take it one step further 586 00:23:10,477 --> 00:23:12,187 where we want to be the first movie ever 587 00:23:12,271 --> 00:23:14,189 to actually have 30-second commercials 588 00:23:14,273 --> 00:23:15,566 right in the middle of the film. 589 00:23:15,649 --> 00:23:16,733 (ALL LAUGHING) 590 00:23:16,817 --> 00:23:18,443 So we're gonna shoot commercial spots. 591 00:23:18,527 --> 00:23:20,112 There'll be three spots throughout the film, 592 00:23:20,195 --> 00:23:22,072 as I said, our top three sponsors. 593 00:23:22,281 --> 00:23:23,323 The above-the-title sponsors 594 00:23:23,407 --> 00:23:25,742 and the other two which will have 30 second spots 595 00:23:25,826 --> 00:23:27,244 of which POM would be a great commercial. 596 00:23:27,327 --> 00:23:29,580 We have some really good ideas that we could do something with that. 597 00:23:29,663 --> 00:23:32,040 There's no better marketer than NASCAR. 598 00:23:32,332 --> 00:23:35,919 NASCAR does a great job about showing their loyalty to brands, 599 00:23:36,086 --> 00:23:38,255 showing their partners with brand sponsorships, 600 00:23:38,338 --> 00:23:41,258 and one of the things they do so well is the NASCAR suit. 601 00:23:41,425 --> 00:23:43,260 The Greatest Movie Ever Sold needs to have a suit. 602 00:23:43,343 --> 00:23:46,179 So then, when I go out and go on the late night programs, 603 00:23:46,263 --> 00:23:49,308 of course I'll be wearing my Greatest Movie Ever Sold suit, 604 00:23:49,391 --> 00:23:52,394 which of course will have a giant POM Wonderful logo on it. 605 00:23:52,477 --> 00:23:54,896 Other sponsor logos, you know, covering it throughout. 606 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:56,315 And so that's the end. 607 00:23:56,398 --> 00:23:58,233 As you can see I'm at the end of my POM bottle. 608 00:23:58,317 --> 00:23:59,526 Look how happy I am. 609 00:24:00,027 --> 00:24:03,155 And so we would love to have you guys be the official beverage. 610 00:24:03,238 --> 00:24:05,616 What questions do you have for me? What can I answer for you? 611 00:24:05,699 --> 00:24:08,702 We're an extremely high quality product 612 00:24:08,785 --> 00:24:10,829 with a real brand image to uphold. 613 00:24:11,538 --> 00:24:14,082 How do we know that the other sponsors you're gonna put in the film 614 00:24:14,166 --> 00:24:15,542 are compatible with that? 615 00:24:15,709 --> 00:24:18,378 The brands we wanna go after are the brands that really reflect 616 00:24:18,545 --> 00:24:21,673 what I think the movie stands for, what I stand for. 617 00:24:22,299 --> 00:24:24,468 Doing something different, doing something innovative. 618 00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:29,514 We think that you represent POM in a way, and POM represents you. 619 00:24:29,598 --> 00:24:31,433 We're compatible together. 620 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:33,560 So that's why I'm attracted to it. 621 00:24:33,894 --> 00:24:37,189 The other thing is full transparency is very important to us. 622 00:24:37,522 --> 00:24:40,359 I think it's important that people know how much we spent 623 00:24:40,442 --> 00:24:44,404 to get in this movie and that we actually paid for it, because... 624 00:24:44,529 --> 00:24:46,239 Why not? Do you have any concerns? 625 00:24:46,531 --> 00:24:47,866 Of course. (SPURLOCK LAUGHS) 626 00:24:48,575 --> 00:24:51,286 I wouldn't be a Jewish mother if I didn't have concerns. 627 00:24:51,912 --> 00:24:57,042 But part of being out there and being successful is taking chances. 628 00:24:57,209 --> 00:24:58,293 You know? 629 00:24:58,418 --> 00:25:01,254 So this is uncharted territory, which is exciting for us. 630 00:25:01,421 --> 00:25:03,298 POM was uncharted territory. Right. 631 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:08,178 So on your title card, it said "Brand X - The Greatest Movie Ever Sold." 632 00:25:08,345 --> 00:25:11,515 Is Brand X what you're going to put on there or are you open to... 633 00:25:11,598 --> 00:25:13,183 No, it's going to be POM Wonderful. 634 00:25:13,308 --> 00:25:14,518 Is it gonna be POM Wonderful? 635 00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:15,894 Well, I mean, it could be. 636 00:25:16,019 --> 00:25:17,604 If we make a deal. 637 00:25:17,729 --> 00:25:19,314 Now we're getting down to brass tacks. 638 00:25:19,523 --> 00:25:23,985 If you want to be Brand X, which I would love for POM to be Brand X... 639 00:25:24,695 --> 00:25:27,114 POM Wonderful presents The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 640 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,658 We wanna sell the above-the-title sponsorship for a million dollars. 641 00:25:29,741 --> 00:25:33,620 Does a million dollars come with 100% complete satisfaction guarantee? 642 00:25:33,954 --> 00:25:35,288 For me? Yes. 643 00:25:35,372 --> 00:25:36,456 (ALL LAUGHING) 644 00:25:49,094 --> 00:25:51,304 Talk about the amenities that the Hyatt has to offer. 645 00:25:51,513 --> 00:25:53,598 (INAUDIBLE) 646 00:25:54,641 --> 00:25:56,977 In the film, I'll come visit you guys 647 00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:59,020 and pitch you about being in the film. 648 00:25:59,104 --> 00:26:01,523 Have you ever done any product placement or anything like this? 649 00:26:01,606 --> 00:26:02,607 No. 650 00:26:02,691 --> 00:26:04,985 And now I'd rather know what we get? What do we get? 651 00:26:05,235 --> 00:26:06,737 So, are you in? We're in. 652 00:26:06,945 --> 00:26:07,946 (LAUGHS) 653 00:26:09,656 --> 00:26:11,783 Mini Cooper, official car of The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 654 00:26:11,867 --> 00:26:12,951 Are we getting seven? 655 00:26:21,168 --> 00:26:22,586 (GURGLING) 656 00:26:30,677 --> 00:26:33,013 Maybe I shouldn't be celebrating just yet. 657 00:26:33,096 --> 00:26:35,182 Even with all these brands signed on to the movie, 658 00:26:35,265 --> 00:26:37,517 believe it or not POM just won't give me the million dollars. 659 00:26:37,851 --> 00:26:40,771 For that to happen, I have to accomplish a lot of other things. 660 00:26:40,854 --> 00:26:43,356 Like show on over 250 screens worldwide, 661 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,525 sell 500,000 downloads and DVDs, 662 00:26:45,692 --> 00:26:48,069 generate more than 600 million media impressions, 663 00:26:48,153 --> 00:26:50,697 and make more than $10 million at the box office. 664 00:26:50,989 --> 00:26:53,200 And then there's what's in all the other contracts! 665 00:26:53,742 --> 00:26:57,037 I can only stay at a Hyatt, I have to pump gas at a Sheetz, 666 00:26:57,204 --> 00:26:59,289 I can only eat Amy's Pizza, 667 00:26:59,372 --> 00:27:01,875 I can't disparage the entire country of Germany, 668 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,003 and I have to conduct an interview in one of JetBlue's aircraft. 669 00:27:05,086 --> 00:27:07,130 And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 670 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,633 As all these contracts are coming in, 671 00:27:09,716 --> 00:27:14,137 I'm just a bit overwhelmed, at a loss, confused. 672 00:27:14,221 --> 00:27:16,890 So with POM, based on this contract, 673 00:27:16,973 --> 00:27:18,934 can I drink anything else in the movie? 674 00:27:19,017 --> 00:27:20,060 I don't think you can. 675 00:27:20,185 --> 00:27:21,520 And I would certainly recommend against it 676 00:27:21,603 --> 00:27:23,230 because, I think it sort of goes... 677 00:27:23,313 --> 00:27:25,607 Even if there's not an explicit prohibition, 678 00:27:25,690 --> 00:27:27,526 you've got to show some deference 679 00:27:27,609 --> 00:27:29,444 to this sponsor and this product. 680 00:27:29,736 --> 00:27:30,987 It says here we're gonna give them the right 681 00:27:31,071 --> 00:27:32,572 to use content of the film. 682 00:27:32,656 --> 00:27:34,908 Do we get to decide what content that is? 683 00:27:35,158 --> 00:27:37,452 Most of these sponsors are looking for sort of 684 00:27:37,536 --> 00:27:39,788 a reciprocal quid pro quo thing 685 00:27:39,996 --> 00:27:41,498 where you're gonna use their brands, 686 00:27:41,581 --> 00:27:44,417 but they do want a piece of this movie 687 00:27:44,584 --> 00:27:46,503 and to be able to associate themselves with the movie 688 00:27:46,586 --> 00:27:49,089 and with the valuable name and image of Morgan Spurlock. 689 00:27:49,339 --> 00:27:50,966 They're asking for final approval of the film. 690 00:27:51,049 --> 00:27:52,634 Do we have to show them the whole movie? 691 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:54,010 If they have final approval of the whole film, 692 00:27:54,094 --> 00:27:55,846 yes, you'd have to show them the whole movie. 693 00:27:55,929 --> 00:27:57,681 (STAMMERS) But do... We don't have to... 694 00:27:57,764 --> 00:27:58,765 Do we have to do that 695 00:27:58,849 --> 00:28:00,475 or can we just show them pieces of the film? 696 00:28:00,642 --> 00:28:02,435 This is a multi-national brand, 697 00:28:02,769 --> 00:28:06,064 and they're very protective about how they're going to be perceived, 698 00:28:06,147 --> 00:28:07,524 and how their brand is going to be perceived. 699 00:28:07,858 --> 00:28:09,568 I feel like we're losing... 700 00:28:09,651 --> 00:28:12,112 I'm gonna lose the ability to actually have control over the movie. 701 00:28:12,737 --> 00:28:13,780 Mmm-hmm. (LAUGHS) 702 00:28:13,864 --> 00:28:16,116 And I just need you to tell me... 703 00:28:16,783 --> 00:28:18,577 Or you tell me if I am. 704 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:21,371 I just wanna know that I can still make the movie I wanna make. 705 00:28:21,538 --> 00:28:23,248 How much influence are they gonna have over the movie? 706 00:28:23,456 --> 00:28:25,083 It depends on the movie that you wanna make. 707 00:28:25,375 --> 00:28:27,168 At the end of the day, it's your voice 708 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:30,463 and it's gonna be your reputation 709 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:32,716 as a filmmaker that you have to protect. 710 00:28:32,883 --> 00:28:38,430 You have to stand up for what you believe is working for the film 711 00:28:38,513 --> 00:28:40,682 and what isn't working for the film. 712 00:28:40,974 --> 00:28:42,392 You have a couple of choices. Okay. 713 00:28:42,475 --> 00:28:47,063 One choice is to allow yourself to be co-opted a little bit. 714 00:28:47,272 --> 00:28:50,108 That's you know... You dip your toe in the water. 715 00:28:50,567 --> 00:28:52,402 Pretty soon you're putting your foot in the water, 716 00:28:52,485 --> 00:28:53,862 pretty soon you're swimming. 717 00:28:53,945 --> 00:28:55,739 And you don't think you're changing. 718 00:28:56,114 --> 00:28:57,991 You just say, "Okay, I'll do a little more." 719 00:28:58,366 --> 00:29:00,994 You end up swimming, that's what they're anticipating. 720 00:29:01,161 --> 00:29:03,413 The other option is to resist, 721 00:29:03,997 --> 00:29:07,751 and maybe end up in Montana growing your own food. 722 00:29:08,126 --> 00:29:12,005 This movie is actually documentary evidence 723 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,800 of how fucked up marketing is. 724 00:29:16,092 --> 00:29:18,261 It's shrill, it's ever-present. 725 00:29:19,930 --> 00:29:20,931 Whatever... 726 00:29:21,014 --> 00:29:23,058 If there was ever anything pristine 727 00:29:23,141 --> 00:29:24,142 about the world we live in, 728 00:29:24,225 --> 00:29:25,393 it no longer is, right? 729 00:29:25,477 --> 00:29:30,065 Because you can't go anywhere without encountering this stuff. 730 00:29:30,398 --> 00:29:33,276 First thought, what's it gonna do to Morgan Spurlock? 731 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,863 And what's it going to do to the satire and the spoof? 732 00:29:37,155 --> 00:29:40,659 Because you can satirize and spoof yourself out of your objective. 733 00:29:41,201 --> 00:29:44,120 But out of this film might come a transformed, 734 00:29:44,204 --> 00:29:45,372 commercialized, 735 00:29:45,705 --> 00:29:48,041 corporatized Morgan Spurlock. 736 00:29:48,541 --> 00:29:49,542 And you'll never be able 737 00:29:49,626 --> 00:29:51,044 to shake the identity. 738 00:29:51,836 --> 00:29:53,088 That's your peril. 739 00:29:53,171 --> 00:29:54,214 That's your challenge. 740 00:29:54,547 --> 00:29:56,716 Well, have you got a pair of these? 741 00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:58,176 (BOTH LAUGHING) 742 00:29:58,802 --> 00:29:59,928 They're giving you products, too? 743 00:30:00,011 --> 00:30:01,096 These are Merrells. 744 00:30:01,179 --> 00:30:03,473 You're gonna be completely clothed with their products? 745 00:30:03,556 --> 00:30:05,392 Absolutely. And this is a fantastic shoe. 746 00:30:05,475 --> 00:30:07,394 What is it? This is a Merrell. 747 00:30:08,103 --> 00:30:09,521 Merrell? Merrell, yeah. 748 00:30:09,854 --> 00:30:10,939 Where is it made? 749 00:30:11,022 --> 00:30:12,565 Merrell, they're made in America. 750 00:30:12,649 --> 00:30:14,234 Wow. Yeah. 751 00:30:14,317 --> 00:30:16,069 Right here in the US of A. 752 00:30:16,236 --> 00:30:17,237 Is it new? 753 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,321 They've been out a few years. 754 00:30:18,405 --> 00:30:19,614 I've had a pair of these before, 755 00:30:19,739 --> 00:30:21,908 and so we called them because actually, I'm a fan. 756 00:30:22,033 --> 00:30:23,618 Yeah, how's the arch support? 757 00:30:23,702 --> 00:30:24,786 It's great. 758 00:30:24,869 --> 00:30:26,579 And the water? The water's good. 759 00:30:26,705 --> 00:30:28,748 They make boots that are waterproof as well. 760 00:30:28,915 --> 00:30:30,083 So where are they sold? 761 00:30:30,166 --> 00:30:32,544 They're sold in outdoor stores and... 762 00:30:32,627 --> 00:30:34,045 Catalogs? And catalogs. 763 00:30:34,129 --> 00:30:35,797 Merrell.com, at their website. 764 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,007 (BELL DINGS) 765 00:30:37,507 --> 00:30:38,758 I'll have to look at that. Yeah. 766 00:30:38,842 --> 00:30:39,843 Yeah. This is a good shoe. 767 00:30:39,926 --> 00:30:40,927 Yeah. 768 00:30:57,402 --> 00:30:59,154 Tell you one thing I'm glad of, 769 00:30:59,237 --> 00:31:02,282 is that I'm not driving some piece of shit Volkswagen right now. 770 00:31:03,491 --> 00:31:05,285 Like, this car runs so good. 771 00:31:05,368 --> 00:31:08,246 It is, like, the greatest machine you could have on the road. 772 00:31:08,329 --> 00:31:10,498 Gets the best gas mileage. It looks amazing. 773 00:31:10,582 --> 00:31:13,168 How good do these cars look? They look incredible. 774 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:16,838 Everybody seems to have a differing opinion. 775 00:31:16,963 --> 00:31:19,215 Can you still have credibility once a brand gets involved? 776 00:31:19,299 --> 00:31:20,884 I would argue it depends on what kind of show it is. 777 00:31:20,967 --> 00:31:25,180 If it's like a GRAMMY... An Emmy Award winning drama, 778 00:31:25,305 --> 00:31:26,514 like, I don't know, E.R... 779 00:31:26,598 --> 00:31:27,724 Law & Order. 780 00:31:27,807 --> 00:31:31,227 Law & Order, I would say that's a little more foreign. 781 00:31:31,311 --> 00:31:33,688 If it's more of a breezy show, or a reality show... 782 00:31:33,813 --> 00:31:35,899 Reality and sports, all bets are off already. 783 00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:38,359 It's already off. Another question is comedies and dramas. 784 00:31:38,485 --> 00:31:41,154 That's the prime real-estate of network TV. 785 00:31:41,321 --> 00:31:44,115 What is the most egregious product placement you've ever seen? 786 00:31:44,199 --> 00:31:48,203 In the last two years, we're seeing people say things in dialog 787 00:31:48,286 --> 00:31:49,704 that was intended for the show. 788 00:31:49,829 --> 00:31:51,372 "I couldn't have been here without Dr. Pepper!" 789 00:31:51,456 --> 00:31:53,249 Maybe if you stopped drinking so much Dr. Pepper. 790 00:31:53,333 --> 00:31:54,334 We're on a road trip. 791 00:31:54,417 --> 00:31:56,544 Drinking Dr. Pepper is practically a requirement. 792 00:31:56,628 --> 00:31:58,171 "I love that Subway $5 Footlong!" 793 00:31:58,379 --> 00:31:59,380 What can I do for you, son? 794 00:31:59,506 --> 00:32:01,841 I got an extra Chicken Teriyaki Footlong. 795 00:32:01,925 --> 00:32:04,385 I thought someone would be interested in. 796 00:32:04,636 --> 00:32:05,720 I think that's really... 797 00:32:05,804 --> 00:32:06,805 That's fantastic. 798 00:32:06,888 --> 00:32:08,264 Holy mother, what's going on there? 799 00:32:08,473 --> 00:32:09,516 No one says that, no one acts that way... 800 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:10,642 Nobody acts that way. 801 00:32:10,725 --> 00:32:13,770 No one acts that way. It's always unnatural and it's forced. 802 00:32:13,853 --> 00:32:16,022 It's so forced that you go, "I'm not watching a show. 803 00:32:16,106 --> 00:32:18,483 "I'm watching a commercial." And that ruins the whole experience. 804 00:32:18,858 --> 00:32:22,112 SPURLOCK: Brian Steinberg may hate it when product placement is too obvious, 805 00:32:22,195 --> 00:32:23,696 but since I'm contractually obligated, 806 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:27,075 to do an interview in JetBlue's new state-of-the-art Terminal 5, 807 00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:29,035 I thought this would be a great place 808 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,162 to talk to someone who thinks the bigger problem 809 00:32:31,246 --> 00:32:33,790 is that people don't know they're being advertised to. 810 00:32:34,249 --> 00:32:35,750 Robert Weissman is the president 811 00:32:35,834 --> 00:32:37,877 of the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, 812 00:32:37,961 --> 00:32:39,796 and he's championing a radical way 813 00:32:39,879 --> 00:32:42,423 to differentiate advertisements from entertainment. 814 00:32:42,882 --> 00:32:45,176 With product placement, what do you think should be done? 815 00:32:45,885 --> 00:32:47,345 In films and television... 816 00:32:47,512 --> 00:32:49,430 The most important thing, especially for television, 817 00:32:49,556 --> 00:32:52,225 is to have simultaneous labeling 818 00:32:52,308 --> 00:32:55,436 that people are being hit with an advertisement at the moment they are. 819 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,188 Right. There should be some little pop-up 820 00:32:57,272 --> 00:32:58,773 that comes on and says, "Advertisement." 821 00:32:58,857 --> 00:33:01,651 It could be a scroll at the bottom, a little pop-up, whatever. 822 00:33:02,068 --> 00:33:03,361 At the moment that people are being advertised to 823 00:33:03,444 --> 00:33:05,405 they should know they're being advertised to. 824 00:33:05,655 --> 00:33:08,741 The advertisers in the television industry say, 825 00:33:08,825 --> 00:33:11,077 "The horror! That'd be terrible." 826 00:33:11,202 --> 00:33:12,996 Because it would create clutter on the screen. 827 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:14,831 Right. But anyone who's watched television 828 00:33:14,998 --> 00:33:16,833 for between three and 10 seconds 829 00:33:16,916 --> 00:33:20,503 knows there's tons of clutter on the screen almost all the time. 830 00:33:20,587 --> 00:33:22,422 There's the logo for the network, 831 00:33:22,505 --> 00:33:24,090 there's pop-up advertisements, 832 00:33:24,174 --> 00:33:25,258 there's emergency things going across... 833 00:33:25,341 --> 00:33:26,426 Yeah. 834 00:33:26,509 --> 00:33:28,720 ...different programs, there's two streams going across, 835 00:33:28,803 --> 00:33:30,597 and other stuff on the side, 836 00:33:30,722 --> 00:33:33,183 so there's already tons of clutter. 837 00:33:33,266 --> 00:33:36,394 If they can do clutter for advertisement, 838 00:33:36,477 --> 00:33:38,563 they can do a little additional piece 839 00:33:38,646 --> 00:33:42,650 to tell people that even in the core program, 840 00:33:42,734 --> 00:33:44,277 they're being exposed to an advertisement. 841 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,361 (WOMAN ON PA) 842 00:33:45,445 --> 00:33:49,199 Robert Weissman loooves JetBlue! Happy Jetting! 843 00:33:49,866 --> 00:33:51,326 Wow, gosh, Morgan. 844 00:33:52,243 --> 00:33:54,662 Pretty clever. Thanks for flying me here for that. 845 00:33:56,164 --> 00:33:58,124 I guess you have more power than I thought. 846 00:34:00,668 --> 00:34:02,045 SPURLOCK: While Robert may be leading the charge 847 00:34:02,128 --> 00:34:03,463 to get rid of product placement, 848 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:05,381 another guy practically invented it. 849 00:34:05,924 --> 00:34:08,801 In Hollywood, if you need a car, you call Norm. 850 00:34:09,385 --> 00:34:11,804 If you need a beer, you call Norm. 851 00:34:12,055 --> 00:34:16,100 In fact, if you need just about anything, you call one man, 852 00:34:16,643 --> 00:34:17,810 Norm Marshall. 853 00:34:18,019 --> 00:34:19,646 If anyone can tell me how much influence 854 00:34:19,729 --> 00:34:22,732 brands are going to have over my movie, it's him. 855 00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,401 Years ago, we represented Alka-Seltzer. 856 00:34:25,485 --> 00:34:26,486 Mmm-hmm. 857 00:34:26,569 --> 00:34:31,074 And we got a call from one of our friends and he said, 858 00:34:31,157 --> 00:34:33,618 "Hey, the director just called a shot 859 00:34:33,701 --> 00:34:35,912 "and he wants the character, it's a comedy... 860 00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:38,331 "And he wants the character to chew an Alka-Seltzer tablet 861 00:34:38,414 --> 00:34:39,999 "and then foam at the mouth." 862 00:34:40,083 --> 00:34:41,751 We immediately jumped in the middle of it 863 00:34:41,834 --> 00:34:43,878 and had a direct call to the director 864 00:34:43,962 --> 00:34:48,049 who immediately started giving me some push-back and I, you know... 865 00:34:48,383 --> 00:34:49,384 We couldn't resolve it, 866 00:34:49,467 --> 00:34:51,094 so I called the transportation coordinator 867 00:34:51,177 --> 00:34:54,264 and said, "Billy, bring all the cars back." 868 00:34:54,681 --> 00:34:58,601 So Billy went to the producer and said, 869 00:34:58,685 --> 00:34:59,936 "How'd you piss off Norm Marshall?" 870 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,939 "Well, I just was talking to him about this Alka-Seltzer thing" 871 00:35:03,022 --> 00:35:04,607 "Well, he wants all his cars back." 872 00:35:04,691 --> 00:35:06,234 And then he calls back and says, 873 00:35:06,317 --> 00:35:07,860 "We've changed the Alka-Seltzer scene." 874 00:35:07,986 --> 00:35:09,696 So those are the kinds of things 875 00:35:09,779 --> 00:35:11,447 that you can't do from Madison Avenue, 876 00:35:11,531 --> 00:35:14,367 or whatever, and that's how fluid the industry is, 877 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:16,035 it changes very... 878 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,537 On a moment. Yeah. 879 00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:20,456 Who has more power and influence in Hollywood, 880 00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:21,874 writers or brands? 881 00:35:22,083 --> 00:35:25,295 The individual writer on the individual show, if that show is successful, 882 00:35:25,378 --> 00:35:27,839 has more power than the individual brand, 883 00:35:27,922 --> 00:35:29,799 but overall there is going to be a moment, 884 00:35:29,882 --> 00:35:31,301 and I don't think it's very far off, 885 00:35:31,384 --> 00:35:35,471 where the larger brands, meaning the larger advertisers, 886 00:35:35,596 --> 00:35:37,390 can dictate to the network the conditions 887 00:35:37,473 --> 00:35:39,225 under which they're prepared to advertise. 888 00:35:39,392 --> 00:35:40,935 Do you guys ever recommend script changes? 889 00:35:41,227 --> 00:35:42,228 Absolutely. Yeah. 890 00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:43,771 Doesn't always happen, but... Right. 891 00:35:44,397 --> 00:35:45,732 (DIALING PHONE) 892 00:35:47,567 --> 00:35:48,735 (PHONE RINGING) 893 00:35:50,236 --> 00:35:52,780 WOMAN: Thank you for calling Straight Arrow Products. 894 00:35:52,947 --> 00:35:54,240 (LAUGHING) 895 00:35:55,575 --> 00:35:56,576 (WHISPERING) 896 00:35:56,659 --> 00:35:58,244 I've gotta try to keep a straight face. 897 00:35:59,829 --> 00:36:01,581 Are you there? Hello? 898 00:36:01,998 --> 00:36:03,541 Hello. Hey. 899 00:36:03,624 --> 00:36:06,586 KATZEV: We just wanted to get a feel for the idea of the scene 900 00:36:06,669 --> 00:36:08,004 and how you were gonna position... 901 00:36:08,087 --> 00:36:09,422 For us, the whole goal 902 00:36:09,505 --> 00:36:10,673 is to try and put something in there... 903 00:36:10,757 --> 00:36:12,800 Products that we think that are interesting, 904 00:36:12,884 --> 00:36:15,803 that could be fun, that at the same time represent an extension... 905 00:36:15,887 --> 00:36:17,805 The extension of what we're trying to make with this film. 906 00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:19,766 That's good, 'cause that's what we liked about it. 907 00:36:19,891 --> 00:36:22,769 Because again, the image is to keep Mane 'n Tail fun. 908 00:36:22,977 --> 00:36:26,189 Yeah, I completely agree, and so for me, in the scene that we wanna do, 909 00:36:26,272 --> 00:36:29,275 you literally start off on a close-up of the bottle. 910 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,443 Like, there's the bottle. 911 00:36:30,526 --> 00:36:32,695 You pull out to see here, you know, here we are in the bathtub. 912 00:36:32,779 --> 00:36:34,030 I'm there washing my hair. 913 00:36:34,113 --> 00:36:36,949 You pull out a little more, you see me washing my little boy's hair. 914 00:36:37,116 --> 00:36:38,701 You pull out a little bit more, and as I turn to the left 915 00:36:38,785 --> 00:36:41,204 and there I am washing my Shetland pony in the tub. 916 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:42,580 WOMAN: (LAUGHS) There you go! KATZEV: There you go! 917 00:36:42,663 --> 00:36:43,873 It works for us. 918 00:36:43,956 --> 00:36:46,125 We'll probably see a shot of it in the beginning, 919 00:36:46,209 --> 00:36:49,045 maybe have something in the middle where we have a phone call 920 00:36:49,128 --> 00:36:51,881 talking about the placement and then have it in the end. 921 00:36:52,423 --> 00:36:53,424 Perfect. 922 00:36:53,841 --> 00:36:55,301 Okay. That sounds good then. 923 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:57,553 Anything else we can answer for you guys right now? 924 00:36:57,637 --> 00:36:58,846 No, that was just the concern. 925 00:36:58,930 --> 00:37:01,724 I wanted to hear exactly what you guys were gonna be doing with it 926 00:37:01,808 --> 00:37:03,017 in the scenes and that's about it. 927 00:37:03,101 --> 00:37:05,603 We've been a genuine company for the past 40 years. 928 00:37:05,853 --> 00:37:07,647 Right. And we do not... 929 00:37:07,814 --> 00:37:10,608 And we do not just don't... Hey, people have fun with us. 930 00:37:10,691 --> 00:37:13,569 They enjoy us. We have a well-rounded good will 931 00:37:13,653 --> 00:37:16,155 between our equine business and our human side. 932 00:37:16,322 --> 00:37:18,699 I mean, this is truly a rare product 933 00:37:18,908 --> 00:37:21,828 in the fact that it's crossed-over as successful as it has. 934 00:37:22,078 --> 00:37:23,162 I completely agree. 935 00:37:23,287 --> 00:37:25,331 And it still continues to be used by horse and people 936 00:37:25,415 --> 00:37:26,457 so that will... 937 00:37:26,582 --> 00:37:28,668 And this is a worldwide product, 938 00:37:28,751 --> 00:37:30,795 so we try to keep it fun and protect it. 939 00:37:30,878 --> 00:37:32,755 Well, guys, this is gonna be great. Thank you so much, 940 00:37:32,839 --> 00:37:34,382 and I'm so glad you guys want to be in the movie. 941 00:37:34,549 --> 00:37:37,343 No, thank you for taking the time with us. 942 00:37:37,468 --> 00:37:38,928 I'm glad you liked the product. 943 00:37:39,178 --> 00:37:41,764 It's my pleasure, thank you, guys. All right. Bye-bye. Thanks. 944 00:37:41,889 --> 00:37:43,349 Bye. WOMAN: Bye-bye. 945 00:37:43,933 --> 00:37:45,268 Awesome! 946 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,647 The official shampoo of The Greatest Movie Ever Sold, Mane 'n Tail. 947 00:37:49,772 --> 00:37:52,817 My concern is storytelling, not story-selling. 948 00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:54,110 And I don't want to be someone 949 00:37:54,193 --> 00:37:56,863 who's trying shove a product down someone's throat. 950 00:37:56,946 --> 00:37:58,823 I'm trying to make people believe these characters are real. 951 00:37:58,906 --> 00:38:01,242 I've never been told, you know, 952 00:38:02,535 --> 00:38:04,203 "Have them hold it a little bit higher, 953 00:38:04,287 --> 00:38:05,955 "and get a little bit closer to his face." 954 00:38:06,038 --> 00:38:07,373 I've never been told that. 955 00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:09,167 Until I started directing movies, 956 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:12,044 I didn't realize how it worked. 957 00:38:13,004 --> 00:38:15,256 And then two guys in suits come down to the set 958 00:38:15,339 --> 00:38:16,340 with a product and, like, 959 00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:17,884 "Yeah, you need to use this in the scene." 960 00:38:18,009 --> 00:38:19,427 I'm like, "What are you talking about?" 961 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,139 I haven't done that much product placement in my movies 962 00:38:23,222 --> 00:38:26,601 because, for the most part, I've actually been usually refused. 963 00:38:27,226 --> 00:38:29,020 If I wanna use... 964 00:38:29,395 --> 00:38:31,522 I think all my first scripts 965 00:38:31,772 --> 00:38:34,650 always had some scene that took place at a Denny's. 966 00:38:34,984 --> 00:38:39,197 Because I had many scenes in my early 20s that took place at a Denny's. 967 00:38:39,614 --> 00:38:41,991 And Reservoir Dogs, 968 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,993 in the original script, the opening scene 969 00:38:44,076 --> 00:38:45,661 where they're all talking, at a Denny's. 970 00:38:45,745 --> 00:38:49,081 All right, the opening scene in Pulp Fiction, 971 00:38:49,165 --> 00:38:50,708 Pumpkin and Honey Bunny at a Denny's. 972 00:38:50,833 --> 00:38:52,919 Yeah. In both cases, Denny's goes, "No!" 973 00:38:53,836 --> 00:38:56,756 Truthfully, I don't ever notice it unless it's super obvious. 974 00:38:57,256 --> 00:38:58,674 And then when it's super obvious, 975 00:38:58,758 --> 00:39:00,676 it becomes ridiculously obvious 976 00:39:00,927 --> 00:39:03,179 and then it can break the reality. 977 00:39:03,638 --> 00:39:05,097 Pardon me? SPURLOCK: Is it advertising? 978 00:39:05,473 --> 00:39:06,557 Oh, fuck yeah. 979 00:39:06,724 --> 00:39:08,017 It's the movie business. 980 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:13,064 And the game now is, "How cheap can you make that movie?" 981 00:39:13,147 --> 00:39:14,524 And "How much profit can you make?" 982 00:39:14,607 --> 00:39:15,900 SPURLOCK: For a long time, people would say 983 00:39:15,983 --> 00:39:17,443 there's a line between art and commerce. 984 00:39:17,568 --> 00:39:19,362 Is that line just getting thinner and thinner? 985 00:39:19,946 --> 00:39:24,951 There are still very, very powerful and very talented artists 986 00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:27,203 musically and in film. 987 00:39:27,286 --> 00:39:30,623 Like, bands like Radiohead, filmmakers like Paul Thomas Anderson, 988 00:39:30,957 --> 00:39:32,792 who are clearly not interested in this. 989 00:39:33,459 --> 00:39:35,086 Artistic integrity, whatever. 990 00:39:35,294 --> 00:39:39,882 I mean, you know, how do you tell the story you intended to tell 991 00:39:40,132 --> 00:39:41,175 without compromising? 992 00:39:41,259 --> 00:39:43,386 Yes. There's a bit of compromise, 993 00:39:43,678 --> 00:39:46,138 but, like I said, if there's a car in a movie, 994 00:39:46,222 --> 00:39:51,978 why not be a car that a brand is helping reach your budget? 995 00:39:52,103 --> 00:39:53,646 Do you think it's selling out? 996 00:39:54,855 --> 00:39:56,649 To who? We're all selling out. 997 00:39:56,732 --> 00:39:58,568 GE is my boss, really, okay? 998 00:39:58,651 --> 00:40:02,280 They build jet engines and weapons systems 999 00:40:02,363 --> 00:40:04,907 and all kinds of crazy electronic appliances 1000 00:40:04,991 --> 00:40:08,286 and they don't give a flying fuck about art. 1001 00:40:20,423 --> 00:40:21,757 So we have three spots that we're gonna look at. 1002 00:40:21,841 --> 00:40:24,260 The first one looks at the healthful aspects 1003 00:40:24,343 --> 00:40:26,345 of POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice. 1004 00:40:26,429 --> 00:40:30,766 Where you see me right there in the middle of a pomegranate field. 1005 00:40:30,933 --> 00:40:33,019 There's only one problem. You can't shoot that spot 1006 00:40:33,185 --> 00:40:35,187 because there are no pomegranates on the trees. 1007 00:40:37,064 --> 00:40:38,441 Did we miss the season? Isn't it in May? 1008 00:40:38,524 --> 00:40:39,859 Oh, yeah. We missed it. 1009 00:40:42,278 --> 00:40:44,780 So, this spot is called "POM on My Mind." 1010 00:40:44,989 --> 00:40:48,784 I come out of the gym, it's hot in the city. I rub my eyes. 1011 00:40:48,951 --> 00:40:52,747 As I look back out, everything in the world has this red tint to it. 1012 00:40:52,872 --> 00:40:54,624 As I walk down the street, I pass a donut shop, 1013 00:40:54,707 --> 00:40:57,043 where all the donuts are stacked one on top of the other. 1014 00:40:57,460 --> 00:41:00,379 And I just look at that, it's a little weird, and I walk past a fruit stand 1015 00:41:00,463 --> 00:41:02,590 where all the apples are all stacked one on top of the other. 1016 00:41:02,673 --> 00:41:04,967 What is going on? What alterior universe is this? 1017 00:41:05,051 --> 00:41:07,261 Suddenly, all the women that I see... 1018 00:41:07,428 --> 00:41:08,512 (ALL LAUGHING) 1019 00:41:08,596 --> 00:41:12,642 All of their breasts are like this double stacked uni-boob 1020 00:41:12,725 --> 00:41:14,602 in the middle of their chest. I open up the fridge, 1021 00:41:14,685 --> 00:41:15,895 there's what I want. 1022 00:41:16,020 --> 00:41:17,229 Ah! 1023 00:41:17,355 --> 00:41:21,984 Then, it's POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice. Getcha Some. 1024 00:41:22,068 --> 00:41:23,778 Then all of a sudden I hear "Woof" 1025 00:41:23,861 --> 00:41:25,488 and I look down, and there's my dog, 1026 00:41:25,738 --> 00:41:27,448 looking up at me with two heads, 1027 00:41:27,531 --> 00:41:29,909 as he turns his heads, and then that's the spot. 1028 00:41:31,702 --> 00:41:35,581 It doesn't talk about our product attributes as much as the other one does. 1029 00:41:35,665 --> 00:41:38,501 Yeah, yeah. It plays to the icon of the bottle, 1030 00:41:38,584 --> 00:41:40,252 but right, doesn't talk about what's inside. 1031 00:41:40,586 --> 00:41:44,423 This spot starts off with me popping up into the camera 1032 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,050 and I tap onto the lens. 1033 00:41:46,217 --> 00:41:47,551 (MIMICS TAPPING SOUND) 1034 00:41:47,843 --> 00:41:50,429 And it's like, literally it's a close-up right on my face. 1035 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:52,598 And the camera starts pulling out. 1036 00:41:53,265 --> 00:41:56,560 And I go, "Psst! I wanna tell you a secret. 1037 00:41:57,186 --> 00:41:58,896 "This is just between me and you, okay? 1038 00:41:59,021 --> 00:42:03,567 "But I drink POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice. 1039 00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,279 "All right?" Now, the camera keeps pulling back. 1040 00:42:07,947 --> 00:42:10,866 "Now, not only is it loaded with antioxidants, 1041 00:42:11,325 --> 00:42:14,995 "but it also improves blood flow and increases prostate health. 1042 00:42:15,121 --> 00:42:16,789 "But, get this. 1043 00:42:17,707 --> 00:42:23,170 "50% of men with mild erectile dysfunction experience stronger erections 1044 00:42:23,796 --> 00:42:26,924 "after drinking it for only four weeks." 1045 00:42:27,466 --> 00:42:29,468 And the camera keeps pulling back, keeps pulling back. 1046 00:42:29,552 --> 00:42:31,679 And I say, "Now who wouldn't want that." 1047 00:42:32,096 --> 00:42:34,390 And there I am standing with a giant erection. 1048 00:42:35,099 --> 00:42:37,852 POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice. 1049 00:42:38,978 --> 00:42:40,479 We'll be running that on TV. 1050 00:42:40,646 --> 00:42:41,689 TUPPER: (LAUGHS) Yeah... 1051 00:42:41,814 --> 00:42:43,065 I'm sure the FDA would love that one. 1052 00:42:43,149 --> 00:42:44,400 This is a great campaign. 1053 00:42:45,234 --> 00:42:48,320 This campaign on the web would get you more attention 1054 00:42:48,446 --> 00:42:49,488 than you ever knew what to do with. 1055 00:42:49,572 --> 00:42:52,825 It could potentially turn off some existing customers, no? 1056 00:42:53,325 --> 00:42:54,493 Maybe, I don't know. 1057 00:42:54,577 --> 00:42:56,912 I think you could be a little more subtle about it. 1058 00:42:56,996 --> 00:42:58,247 From a commercial standpoint, 1059 00:42:58,330 --> 00:43:00,207 do you want us to come up with other concepts? 1060 00:43:00,291 --> 00:43:03,836 Wouldn't it be interesting if we took the Minute Maid example? 1061 00:43:03,919 --> 00:43:06,922 Their juice has mainly apple juice. 1062 00:43:07,006 --> 00:43:12,845 Ours is 100% Pomegranate juice and theirs is one-third of 1%. 1063 00:43:13,012 --> 00:43:14,638 Wow. I wonder what you could do 1064 00:43:14,722 --> 00:43:18,350 with the content Lynda presented in an advertising campaign. 1065 00:43:18,434 --> 00:43:22,605 Yes. We would be very happy if you could. 1066 00:43:22,813 --> 00:43:27,193 Okay. I'll go back to New York and I'll get to work on a new spot. 1067 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:28,861 All right. Great! Okay, great. Thanks, guys. 1068 00:43:28,944 --> 00:43:29,987 Thanks for your time. 1069 00:43:35,743 --> 00:43:36,744 So, 1070 00:43:39,121 --> 00:43:42,625 just had every idea that I went in to pitch get shot down in the room. 1071 00:43:43,459 --> 00:43:45,753 One, after the other, after the other. 1072 00:43:46,295 --> 00:43:50,299 And then had them basically tell me what they want me to pitch 1073 00:43:50,382 --> 00:43:55,262 which is basically their own takedown piece of every competitor they have. 1074 00:43:59,642 --> 00:44:03,646 See part of this... Part of this movie is, which is awesome, 1075 00:44:03,729 --> 00:44:06,315 is getting to see the inner-workings of all this stuff happening. 1076 00:44:06,857 --> 00:44:09,443 But the other part of it, is like... 1077 00:44:12,988 --> 00:44:14,490 At what part... 1078 00:44:15,491 --> 00:44:18,494 At what part do I let myself completely become a foil 1079 00:44:18,828 --> 00:44:22,832 to do everybody else's bidding, you know? 1080 00:44:50,192 --> 00:44:52,444 Is there such a thing as truth in advertising? 1081 00:44:52,528 --> 00:44:53,612 Yes. 1082 00:44:53,737 --> 00:44:57,074 Advertisements that say they're lying are telling the truth. 1083 00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:00,244 What are some examples of the most egregious offenders 1084 00:45:00,327 --> 00:45:03,205 of commercials or brands or products that mislead you? 1085 00:45:03,289 --> 00:45:05,291 I have a lot in my memory, 1086 00:45:05,374 --> 00:45:07,293 but I lather them with amnesia 1087 00:45:07,376 --> 00:45:08,794 because they're so disgusting. 1088 00:45:08,961 --> 00:45:11,255 Remember how we talked about eating better? 1089 00:45:11,964 --> 00:45:14,466 Well, it starts today. 1090 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:19,889 What's deceptive about advertising is the answer that it gives 1091 00:45:19,972 --> 00:45:21,348 to how we can be happy. 1092 00:45:21,807 --> 00:45:23,767 The answer that it gives is that somehow, 1093 00:45:23,851 --> 00:45:27,771 products are connected to our sense of well-being 1094 00:45:27,938 --> 00:45:29,231 and to our sense of happiness. 1095 00:45:29,523 --> 00:45:32,484 And I think that is kind of, the ultimate lie. 1096 00:45:32,568 --> 00:45:34,820 'Cause what makes us happy is not the products. 1097 00:45:34,904 --> 00:45:38,574 What makes us happy is what the products are seen as a conduit to. 1098 00:45:38,741 --> 00:45:42,536 The whole spectacle is constantly telling you that you're nothing. 1099 00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:44,413 You're nothing. You're inadequate. 1100 00:45:44,496 --> 00:45:47,708 You're a loser. You're ugly. You're stupid. 1101 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:49,960 Unless you buy this thing. 1102 00:45:50,169 --> 00:45:52,212 Now, how long does the feeling of contentment 1103 00:45:52,296 --> 00:45:53,964 you're supposed to get from that thing, 1104 00:45:54,048 --> 00:45:55,257 how long does that really last, 1105 00:45:55,341 --> 00:45:57,092 assuming it even happens at all? 1106 00:45:57,176 --> 00:45:59,261 It doesn't last. There is no such contentment. 1107 00:45:59,345 --> 00:46:02,514 You can't really be happy 1108 00:46:04,141 --> 00:46:06,477 because of some purchase like that. 1109 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,020 So advertising tells us a great deal. 1110 00:46:08,103 --> 00:46:11,815 Advertising tells us something very real about where people are. 1111 00:46:12,441 --> 00:46:15,653 It's just that it's been disconnected from how to achieve it. 1112 00:46:30,042 --> 00:46:33,545 The truth in advertising is a big thing people keep talking about. 1113 00:46:33,671 --> 00:46:37,549 Is there truth in advertising? Can we trust what the ads say? 1114 00:46:39,134 --> 00:46:41,553 Bigger thing is, can you trust what regular people say? 1115 00:46:42,346 --> 00:46:44,390 Take that fish right there. 1116 00:46:44,682 --> 00:46:47,184 That fish is Nemo 2. 1117 00:46:47,893 --> 00:46:52,439 Nemo 1 died in a terrible drowning accident, apparently, in his own bowl, 1118 00:46:52,606 --> 00:46:54,066 a few days ago. 1119 00:46:54,775 --> 00:46:57,152 So while my little boy was still asleep, I came downstairs, 1120 00:46:57,236 --> 00:46:59,822 fished him out, flushed him down the toilet, went to the pet store, 1121 00:46:59,905 --> 00:47:03,075 got another one as close to the exact color as I could recollect... 1122 00:47:03,534 --> 00:47:04,535 Nemo 2. 1123 00:47:05,244 --> 00:47:06,870 How long can I keep this going 1124 00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:10,374 until my son actually realizes that it's not the same Nemo? 1125 00:47:11,375 --> 00:47:12,376 I don't know. 1126 00:47:13,210 --> 00:47:14,962 Truth in advertising. 1127 00:47:17,464 --> 00:47:19,258 Is there truth in advertising? 1128 00:47:20,801 --> 00:47:22,094 Yeah, I think there's some. 1129 00:47:22,553 --> 00:47:26,765 Truth to me, honesty, integrity, character. Just be real about it. 1130 00:47:26,849 --> 00:47:28,392 No robbery without a gun. 1131 00:47:28,475 --> 00:47:30,686 There's some honest advertising out there. There is. 1132 00:47:30,769 --> 00:47:32,479 It does exist, and that's cool. 1133 00:47:32,604 --> 00:47:34,815 But I just don't like stuff that lies. 1134 00:47:34,982 --> 00:47:36,775 There is definitely truth in advertising. 1135 00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:38,318 You just have to gloss it a little bit 1136 00:47:38,444 --> 00:47:39,737 to make people want to hear it. 1137 00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:42,990 When you read the labels, the ingredients labels on food products 1138 00:47:43,699 --> 00:47:47,077 and if you have any knowledge of what the stuff is that's in there, 1139 00:47:47,619 --> 00:47:48,620 it's shocking. 1140 00:47:48,704 --> 00:47:51,457 When you look at a juice bottle that says 100%, 1141 00:47:52,291 --> 00:47:53,292 100% what? 1142 00:47:53,459 --> 00:47:54,960 They think it's 100% real juice, 1143 00:47:55,044 --> 00:47:56,503 and it's not, it's only 10% juice 1144 00:47:56,587 --> 00:47:57,921 and they buy it and drink it and they think 1145 00:47:58,005 --> 00:47:59,339 they're drinking something healthy, 1146 00:47:59,423 --> 00:48:00,966 but it's not. That's offensive to me. 1147 00:48:01,258 --> 00:48:03,844 SPURLOCK: Check the label. That's what they tell us to do when we go shopping. 1148 00:48:03,969 --> 00:48:05,804 But how much of what's on the label can we really believe? 1149 00:48:05,929 --> 00:48:08,974 Take this juice. Label has a giant picture of a pomegranate on it, 1150 00:48:09,099 --> 00:48:12,478 blueberries front and center. Must be filled with all that good stuff, right? 1151 00:48:12,644 --> 00:48:13,645 Well, guess again. 1152 00:48:13,729 --> 00:48:15,689 99% of this juice is apple and grape. 1153 00:48:15,814 --> 00:48:17,816 So how much pomegranate and blueberry is in it? 1154 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,026 Less than 1%. 1155 00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:20,569 That's why I drink POM Wonderful. 1156 00:48:20,652 --> 00:48:22,321 It's 100% pomegranate juice. 1157 00:48:22,446 --> 00:48:24,990 You'd have to drink 90 of these, that's 80,000 calories 1158 00:48:25,157 --> 00:48:27,993 to get the same amount of pomegranate juice that's in just one of these. 1159 00:48:28,077 --> 00:48:29,369 Check the label on that one. 1160 00:48:29,453 --> 00:48:31,080 POM Wonderful. Get Real. 1161 00:48:43,509 --> 00:48:44,468 Hello sir. Good morning. 1162 00:48:44,551 --> 00:48:46,011 Welcome to Grand Hyatt Hotel, Sao Paulo. 1163 00:48:46,136 --> 00:48:47,096 Thank you very much. 1164 00:48:47,179 --> 00:48:49,139 As a diamond member, you have automatically 1165 00:48:49,223 --> 00:48:51,225 an upgrade to our executive rooms. 1166 00:48:51,350 --> 00:48:54,561 After flying all night, I'm ready for a little sleepy time. 1167 00:49:01,652 --> 00:49:04,530 Sao Paulo is one of the largest cities in the Western Hemisphere. 1168 00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:06,615 And recently they've done something radical. 1169 00:49:06,907 --> 00:49:09,868 Passing a bill outlawing all outdoor advertising. 1170 00:49:10,077 --> 00:49:13,247 No billboards. No banners, no posters. Nothing. 1171 00:49:13,497 --> 00:49:15,999 Mayor Gilberto Kassab passed the bill into law. 1172 00:49:16,125 --> 00:49:19,253 And Regina Monteiro, the director for urban planning of the city 1173 00:49:19,336 --> 00:49:21,588 was the one who originally came up with the idea. 1174 00:49:21,672 --> 00:49:24,049 What was the inspiration for the clean city law? 1175 00:49:24,508 --> 00:49:25,551 (IN PORTUGUESE) 1176 00:49:25,634 --> 00:49:30,889 People became more and more aware 1177 00:49:30,973 --> 00:49:33,058 that the pollution in Sao Paulo 1178 00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:35,394 was one of its main problems. 1179 00:49:36,145 --> 00:49:40,649 And by "pollution" we not only mean air, water, or sound, 1180 00:49:40,732 --> 00:49:41,900 but also visual pollution. 1181 00:49:42,151 --> 00:49:43,694 We could no longer see the city. 1182 00:49:43,819 --> 00:49:45,737 We were just reading and reading. 1183 00:49:45,946 --> 00:49:50,951 I try to do things to change the city 1184 00:49:51,034 --> 00:49:54,037 so that Sao Paulo can be seen in the world 1185 00:49:54,163 --> 00:49:58,083 as something different since it does not have natural beauty. 1186 00:49:58,250 --> 00:50:00,002 It needs something else 1187 00:50:00,836 --> 00:50:03,714 so that people can sense it as something special. 1188 00:50:03,922 --> 00:50:10,888 Research has shown positive feedback from 90% of the city. 1189 00:50:11,471 --> 00:50:12,472 Great. 1190 00:50:12,556 --> 00:50:13,557 Thank you very much. 1191 00:50:23,609 --> 00:50:25,152 So what was the city like before the ban? 1192 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,361 (IN PORTUGUESE) 1193 00:50:26,445 --> 00:50:29,865 There were billboards all over the place. 1194 00:50:30,073 --> 00:50:31,950 It would make people confused. 1195 00:50:32,201 --> 00:50:37,289 The absence of outdoor advertising has allowed us to see more of nature. 1196 00:50:37,456 --> 00:50:39,625 Everything is much clearer. 1197 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:46,632 We are now able to focus on things that we want to see and admire, 1198 00:50:47,132 --> 00:50:51,511 without having other strong images deviating our focus all the time. 1199 00:50:51,678 --> 00:50:54,389 So this is the biggest shopping street in the middle of Sao Paulo. 1200 00:50:54,598 --> 00:50:57,059 The question is, if suddenly all the advertising goes away, 1201 00:50:57,142 --> 00:50:58,352 how has their business been affected? 1202 00:50:58,518 --> 00:51:00,687 So, we're gonna find out from some of these shop-owners what's up. 1203 00:51:03,482 --> 00:51:06,026 So how do people know about your business if you don't advertise? 1204 00:51:07,027 --> 00:51:09,988 Well, by Internet, by mouth to mouth. 1205 00:51:10,155 --> 00:51:11,490 Is there such a... Yeah. 1206 00:51:11,573 --> 00:51:13,075 Word of mouth? Yeah. 1207 00:51:13,492 --> 00:51:14,534 Word of mouth? 1208 00:51:14,618 --> 00:51:15,661 Word of mouth. Yeah, that's it. 1209 00:51:16,536 --> 00:51:18,580 Did the way you advertise to get customers 1210 00:51:18,664 --> 00:51:20,666 change from before the ban to now? 1211 00:51:21,041 --> 00:51:22,084 (IN PORTUGUESE) 1212 00:51:22,167 --> 00:51:25,003 You have to change the whole structure of the business. 1213 00:51:25,254 --> 00:51:28,507 Today we work instead of investing in advertising, 1214 00:51:28,799 --> 00:51:30,759 to have something that attracts the customer. 1215 00:51:31,218 --> 00:51:33,387 Our job is to look for referrals. 1216 00:51:36,181 --> 00:51:39,017 Not one ad on that taxi. Did you see that? 1217 00:51:39,893 --> 00:51:42,437 No ads on the taxis. No ads on the buses. 1218 00:51:42,521 --> 00:51:44,189 There's no ads on the buildings. 1219 00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:46,400 It's amazing. 1220 00:51:48,694 --> 00:51:51,154 You might not need traditional advertising in Sao Paulo 1221 00:51:51,238 --> 00:51:55,867 but in this country, I still need to generate 600 million media impressions. 1222 00:51:55,951 --> 00:51:57,953 To achieve that my movie's going to need 1223 00:51:58,036 --> 00:52:00,038 one pretty inspired ad campaign. 1224 00:52:01,415 --> 00:52:03,583 Tony Seiniger is a Hollywood legend, 1225 00:52:03,667 --> 00:52:05,919 having pretty much invented the blockbuster. 1226 00:52:08,213 --> 00:52:12,050 And Peter Bemis is responsible for some of the most iconic movie posters today. 1227 00:52:12,467 --> 00:52:15,053 If anyone can give me some of that Hollywood marketing magic, 1228 00:52:15,345 --> 00:52:16,471 it's these guys. 1229 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,560 Being of a certain age, I remember The Greatest Story Ever Told, 1230 00:52:21,685 --> 00:52:24,187 the story of Jesus. 1231 00:52:24,730 --> 00:52:26,773 When was that movie made, mid-60s, right? Yeah. 1232 00:52:26,857 --> 00:52:29,735 The first exercise I went through mentally and creatively, 1233 00:52:29,818 --> 00:52:33,488 was to go and do religious take-offs, right? 1234 00:52:33,572 --> 00:52:37,576 Which, I think, the blasphemy at least gets you some ink, okay? 1235 00:52:37,868 --> 00:52:40,412 The first comp 1236 00:52:40,829 --> 00:52:43,248 will be you, Morgan. 1237 00:52:43,332 --> 00:52:44,958 (PEOPLE LAUGHING) 1238 00:52:45,250 --> 00:52:46,960 Only you. 1239 00:52:49,671 --> 00:52:52,341 I've always wanted to rip this off. 1240 00:52:52,424 --> 00:52:54,134 He's always wanted to rip off The Last Supper. 1241 00:52:54,217 --> 00:52:56,136 Rip off The Last Supper, all right? 1242 00:52:56,386 --> 00:52:57,763 So I figure... 1243 00:52:58,513 --> 00:53:02,976 This would be you and you've just got a big... 1244 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:04,353 That's pretty fantastic. 1245 00:53:04,436 --> 00:53:05,562 SEINIGER: There you are, you're like this. 1246 00:53:06,104 --> 00:53:09,816 You put everybody who was iconographic of commercialism 1247 00:53:09,941 --> 00:53:12,027 as the disciples coming in on you. 1248 00:53:12,110 --> 00:53:13,487 So, it's like the Oscar. 1249 00:53:13,570 --> 00:53:14,571 Yeah. 1250 00:53:14,654 --> 00:53:17,032 And in fact, your legs would be posed, 1251 00:53:17,324 --> 00:53:20,619 but not so close that my friends at the Academy would sue us all. 1252 00:53:21,078 --> 00:53:22,871 This is you, carrying the cross 1253 00:53:22,954 --> 00:53:25,082 that is covered with stickers like a NASCAR. 1254 00:53:25,207 --> 00:53:26,208 (SPURLOCK LAUGHING) 1255 00:53:26,291 --> 00:53:27,626 That's as sick as it gets. 1256 00:53:27,918 --> 00:53:31,421 Let's start with these six and we'll trim from there. 1257 00:53:31,546 --> 00:53:33,131 Good, okay. In terms of title treatments, 1258 00:53:33,298 --> 00:53:35,133 these are both good ways to go. Yes. 1259 00:53:36,009 --> 00:53:37,260 You should think about it, 1260 00:53:37,344 --> 00:53:39,388 talk about it and then we'll all talk. 1261 00:53:39,471 --> 00:53:40,847 These should be underground, right? 1262 00:53:40,931 --> 00:53:41,890 That's a great... 1263 00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:43,642 You're talking about wild posting, right? Yeah. 1264 00:53:43,725 --> 00:53:44,768 Wild post these. 1265 00:53:44,851 --> 00:53:45,894 Yeah, exactly. 1266 00:53:45,977 --> 00:53:48,772 You put those up in New York. Like real street art, you know? 1267 00:53:48,855 --> 00:53:50,107 A studio would go, "No...way." 1268 00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:51,233 I'm not touching them. 1269 00:53:51,316 --> 00:53:53,568 I'm not going anywhere near that. 1270 00:53:53,652 --> 00:53:57,489 I think everything is so spot on. It's awesome. 1271 00:53:57,614 --> 00:53:58,657 Amazing. 1272 00:53:58,824 --> 00:53:59,866 What a great client. 1273 00:53:59,950 --> 00:54:01,034 Thank you. All right. 1274 00:54:01,118 --> 00:54:03,203 SPURLOCK: As important and great as an iconic poster is, 1275 00:54:03,328 --> 00:54:06,415 what's even more vital to a film's success is its trailer. 1276 00:54:06,957 --> 00:54:09,000 Using a new technique called neuromarketing, 1277 00:54:09,167 --> 00:54:11,420 Martin Lindstrom believes he's unlocked the secret 1278 00:54:11,545 --> 00:54:13,964 to creating a memorable one each time. 1279 00:54:14,047 --> 00:54:17,092 Trailers are now more and more produced 1280 00:54:17,175 --> 00:54:19,428 in Los Angeles based on neuromarketing. 1281 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,515 A trailer is deadly important for the survival of your movie. 1282 00:54:23,598 --> 00:54:26,560 Now what do you do to create the best scene? 1283 00:54:26,852 --> 00:54:29,813 What you have to find out is when is the emotional peak. 1284 00:54:30,105 --> 00:54:31,356 The highs and the lows. 1285 00:54:31,481 --> 00:54:33,108 How do you create such an engaging story 1286 00:54:33,191 --> 00:54:34,734 that people just have to see it. 1287 00:54:35,152 --> 00:54:36,653 And that's exactly what's happening now. 1288 00:54:36,862 --> 00:54:40,449 So they're typically testing five different trailers for each of the movies, 1289 00:54:40,615 --> 00:54:42,451 the larger movies, and figuring out 1290 00:54:42,534 --> 00:54:44,286 which one is the most emotionally engaging, 1291 00:54:44,369 --> 00:54:46,455 which one is creating the most curiosity, 1292 00:54:46,538 --> 00:54:48,373 if it's a science fiction movie, 1293 00:54:48,457 --> 00:54:51,084 which one is creating the most fear, and so forth. 1294 00:54:51,209 --> 00:54:54,463 Is this whole thing, because it sounds a bit crazy, 1295 00:54:54,546 --> 00:54:57,090 but is neuromarketing evil? 1296 00:54:57,299 --> 00:54:58,550 It's like anything else. 1297 00:54:58,633 --> 00:55:00,635 At the end of the day, there will be people abusing it. 1298 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,637 Which is the reason why it's fantastic 1299 00:55:02,721 --> 00:55:04,556 that you now dare to go through it 1300 00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,184 and experiment like this to show what really goes on. 1301 00:55:07,809 --> 00:55:09,561 SPURLOCK: To show how successful his technique is 1302 00:55:09,728 --> 00:55:12,230 Martin is putting me through a typical neuromarketing test, 1303 00:55:12,522 --> 00:55:15,734 strapping me down to an MRI and blasting my head with commercials. 1304 00:55:16,026 --> 00:55:17,861 Remember that scene in A Clockwork Orange? 1305 00:55:18,028 --> 00:55:19,196 It's kind of like that. 1306 00:55:23,283 --> 00:55:25,744 LINDSTROM: There is three things we're going to look at right now. 1307 00:55:25,827 --> 00:55:27,245 One is fear. 1308 00:55:28,371 --> 00:55:29,831 One is craving. 1309 00:55:30,499 --> 00:55:31,833 And one is sex. 1310 00:55:31,917 --> 00:55:33,668 Fear, craving, sex. 1311 00:55:33,752 --> 00:55:35,086 Fear, craving, sex. 1312 00:55:35,170 --> 00:55:37,422 Fear, craving. Fear, craving, sex. Fear, craving, sex. 1313 00:55:37,506 --> 00:55:40,091 Fear, craving. Fear, craving, sex. Fear, craving, sex. 1314 00:55:45,972 --> 00:55:48,225 You may be dizzy, so just sit for a minute, okay? 1315 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,726 (GROANS) Oh! 1316 00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:51,436 Phew! 1317 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,272 Like, in between each one of the breaks, I would doze off 1318 00:55:54,397 --> 00:55:56,858 and literally, I would dream, like in a commercial. 1319 00:55:57,776 --> 00:56:01,029 Like, the dreams would play out almost in a 30 second commercial. 1320 00:56:01,112 --> 00:56:02,322 It was kind of weird. 1321 00:56:02,405 --> 00:56:03,406 This is my brain? This is your brain. 1322 00:56:03,448 --> 00:56:05,075 This is my brain on commercials. Right. 1323 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,287 Let's take a look at the results. This is your brain. 1324 00:56:09,371 --> 00:56:12,874 There's an amazing amount of brain activity going on. 1325 00:56:12,958 --> 00:56:16,878 Did you feel like you wanted to have a Coke after the scanning session? 1326 00:56:17,087 --> 00:56:19,172 I would have liked to have had a Coke after the scanning session. 1327 00:56:19,256 --> 00:56:22,050 Because I remember, you actually said that as you left the studio 1328 00:56:22,133 --> 00:56:24,636 and I want to tell you why. Take a look at this. 1329 00:56:24,803 --> 00:56:26,012 Okay. 1330 00:56:26,137 --> 00:56:27,347 Basically, the red/yellow area 1331 00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:29,057 shows that you are highly engaged 1332 00:56:29,140 --> 00:56:30,725 and there's a lot of activity going on. 1333 00:56:30,934 --> 00:56:33,562 And not only that, we can see you so emotionally engaged 1334 00:56:33,937 --> 00:56:35,480 that something else is happening. 1335 00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:37,107 The amygdala was also activated. 1336 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:40,318 This is actually an area responsible for two activities. 1337 00:56:40,443 --> 00:56:42,737 One is fear and the other one is the release 1338 00:56:42,821 --> 00:56:45,031 of a neuro-transmitter called Dopamine. 1339 00:56:45,198 --> 00:56:46,199 And guess what? 1340 00:56:46,283 --> 00:56:48,743 You got a release of Dopamine when you saw the Coca-Cola ad. 1341 00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:50,203 You actually wanted to have it. 1342 00:56:50,412 --> 00:56:51,580 This is addiction. 1343 00:56:51,663 --> 00:56:53,832 This is not anything else. This is addiction. 1344 00:56:54,374 --> 00:56:58,003 And this is really the reason why neuromarketing is happening now 1345 00:56:58,587 --> 00:57:00,589 because there's no way you could explain that to me 1346 00:57:01,339 --> 00:57:03,633 when I was interviewing just after watching the commercial, right? 1347 00:57:03,842 --> 00:57:05,343 Yeah, no way. 1348 00:57:05,927 --> 00:57:07,512 Do you think that by doing stuff like this 1349 00:57:07,596 --> 00:57:09,055 you're manipulating consumers to make a choice? 1350 00:57:09,139 --> 00:57:13,143 Let's get one thing right, advertising, as a concept, is manipulation. 1351 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,271 But don't be fooled, because if you go into a retail store 1352 00:57:16,354 --> 00:57:19,899 and you think you're safe, that's the point where you're most volatile, 1353 00:57:19,983 --> 00:57:22,694 or you're the most vulnerable in the whole process. 1354 00:57:24,529 --> 00:57:25,530 (EXHALES) 1355 00:57:25,697 --> 00:57:28,325 Where should I be able to go where I don't see one bit of advertising? 1356 00:57:29,034 --> 00:57:30,327 To sleep. 1357 00:57:30,577 --> 00:57:32,120 That's what it's coming down to. 1358 00:57:32,203 --> 00:57:34,080 It affords no limits. 1359 00:57:34,372 --> 00:57:36,207 And that's the nature of the commercial instinct. 1360 00:57:36,291 --> 00:57:38,043 It doesn't know boundaries. It doesn't know limits. 1361 00:57:38,126 --> 00:57:40,462 It goes into areas that should be taboo 1362 00:57:40,545 --> 00:57:42,255 like commercializing childhood. 1363 00:57:42,339 --> 00:57:44,090 Corporations are raising our children. 1364 00:57:44,424 --> 00:57:49,763 McDonalds feeds them. And Disney and Time Warner entertains them. 1365 00:57:50,055 --> 00:57:52,140 So, that's becoming a world, 1366 00:57:52,307 --> 00:57:57,270 which is designed to create conditioned responses just like Pavlov's dog. 1367 00:57:57,562 --> 00:58:01,858 We're told that what makes children happy are the things that corporations sell. 1368 00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:05,320 And if we immerse kids in that from birth, 1369 00:58:05,403 --> 00:58:07,447 then it becomes what makes them happy. 1370 00:58:07,614 --> 00:58:12,118 And it's not good enough to say, 1371 00:58:12,327 --> 00:58:15,205 "Pick up a stick and make it into a Harry Potter wand." 1372 00:58:15,288 --> 00:58:18,249 You have to have the "real wand." 1373 00:58:18,416 --> 00:58:20,794 From a young age, you're buying into this identity, 1374 00:58:20,877 --> 00:58:22,837 "This stuff makes me who I am." 1375 00:58:22,921 --> 00:58:25,590 Right. And what that does is take away from creative play. 1376 00:58:25,799 --> 00:58:28,176 Kids are learning about the world 1377 00:58:28,259 --> 00:58:30,595 based on what's best for corporations 1378 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,097 and they can't be objective. 1379 00:58:35,016 --> 00:58:37,769 Now Boarding: Flight 755 To Aruba. 1380 00:58:39,938 --> 00:58:41,606 Whoa! Look at all the space! 1381 00:58:41,731 --> 00:58:43,733 BOY: I've never had so much legroom! 1382 00:58:44,025 --> 00:58:45,360 Arr! Lookie here! 1383 00:58:45,443 --> 00:58:47,195 There's a TV in every seat! 1384 00:58:47,362 --> 00:58:48,780 (MIMICS BEEPING) 1385 00:58:49,072 --> 00:58:50,782 I'm hungry. I want something to eat. 1386 00:58:50,949 --> 00:58:52,617 Here's some free yummy snacks! 1387 00:58:52,701 --> 00:58:54,661 Yummy! Yum, yum, yum, yum! 1388 00:58:54,744 --> 00:58:56,079 What a nice lady. 1389 00:58:56,538 --> 00:58:58,373 Flight attendants, prepare for takeoff. 1390 00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:00,458 (MIMICKING PLANE ENGINE ROARING) 1391 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:06,131 Prince Dastan, have you wondered... 1392 00:59:06,965 --> 00:59:09,801 SPURLOCK: It's almost impossible for a film to become a blockbuster 1393 00:59:09,926 --> 00:59:11,219 without reaching kids. 1394 00:59:11,428 --> 00:59:13,179 Specifically high-school kids. 1395 00:59:13,304 --> 00:59:16,975 And in 1989 one of the last barriers to that audience was broken. 1396 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,187 For the past 20 years, Channel One has been piping their news broadcasts 1397 00:59:21,271 --> 00:59:23,773 into more than 8,000 schools all across the country. 1398 00:59:24,190 --> 00:59:26,735 First up today, the topic of bullying. 1399 00:59:26,818 --> 00:59:29,904 In exchange for providing free televisions for each of the classrooms, 1400 00:59:30,155 --> 00:59:31,990 Channel One shows their broadcasts 1401 00:59:32,157 --> 00:59:33,992 for 12 minutes a day every school day 1402 00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:37,704 and reaches 6 million of one of the nation's most coveted demographics. 1403 00:59:38,329 --> 00:59:41,166 And because of that, Channel One gets to charge a premium. 1404 00:59:41,541 --> 00:59:45,712 Each 30 second TV spot can cost upwards of $200,000. 1405 00:59:45,962 --> 00:59:48,089 As much as a primetime TV show. 1406 00:59:48,298 --> 00:59:49,966 SPURLOCK: Why do you think there are commercials in there? 1407 00:59:50,049 --> 00:59:54,345 All of the commercials are so like, of course they would do them for teens. 1408 00:59:54,596 --> 00:59:57,015 Thank you so much for that acne commercial 1409 00:59:57,557 --> 00:59:58,558 I don't mind it, 1410 00:59:58,641 --> 00:59:59,893 because they're just pounding information 1411 00:59:59,976 --> 01:00:02,103 into you the whole time, the whole news broadcast 1412 01:00:02,353 --> 01:00:03,313 so that's like a break, turn, 1413 01:00:03,396 --> 01:00:04,522 talk to your friend for a little bit. 1414 01:00:04,689 --> 01:00:07,400 Like, we're here to learn, not to buy, in my opinion. 1415 01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:10,612 Some writer during the late 1800s said 1416 01:00:10,695 --> 01:00:14,032 that schools should teach you how to think, not what to think. 1417 01:00:14,115 --> 01:00:17,744 But I think that advertising is really trying to tell you what to think, 1418 01:00:17,869 --> 01:00:20,205 and so I don't think that should be in a school environment. 1419 01:00:20,538 --> 01:00:23,875 I feel like the amount of advertisement that we already have is enough, 1420 01:00:24,083 --> 01:00:26,336 so if you added any more, it would just be ridiculous. 1421 01:00:26,419 --> 01:00:29,547 I don't want to have our school name changed to "Red Bull High." 1422 01:00:30,048 --> 01:00:32,091 SPURLOCK: Sure, who'd wanna go to Red Bull High? 1423 01:00:32,217 --> 01:00:35,762 But The Greatest Movie Ever Sold High? That sounds like a winner. 1424 01:00:36,095 --> 01:00:37,764 You see, these days, every major brand 1425 01:00:37,847 --> 01:00:40,141 is dying to get their name on a building or a stadium. 1426 01:00:40,517 --> 01:00:42,310 And I may not be able to afford a stadium, 1427 01:00:42,477 --> 01:00:45,188 but in the cash-strapped school district of Broward County, 1428 01:00:45,438 --> 01:00:47,440 I may have found the next best thing. 1429 01:00:47,732 --> 01:00:50,527 I've been in my job for 12 years. 1430 01:00:50,610 --> 01:00:54,239 And I swear, eight of those 12 years, we've sat down every year 1431 01:00:54,322 --> 01:00:55,907 and said, "Okay, what are we cutting this year?" 1432 01:00:55,990 --> 01:01:00,078 Our school board is looking at every way to cut costs 1433 01:01:00,703 --> 01:01:03,498 that doesn't affect the classroom as they can. 1434 01:01:03,581 --> 01:01:05,416 And, you know, it's very hard. 1435 01:01:05,542 --> 01:01:07,627 I feel bad for what they have to 1436 01:01:07,710 --> 01:01:10,296 sit there and try and figure out what to cut 1437 01:01:10,463 --> 01:01:11,923 because you can't make everybody happy. 1438 01:01:12,090 --> 01:01:14,217 We're not allowed to do the outside of school buses. 1439 01:01:14,926 --> 01:01:17,762 We were looking at providing 1440 01:01:17,929 --> 01:01:22,892 all of our work vehicles with the possibility of putting advertising on them. 1441 01:01:22,976 --> 01:01:26,145 What's been the reasoning for not wanting to have it on the outsides of buses? 1442 01:01:26,354 --> 01:01:29,482 That's a state law. We would love to have it on the outside of buses, 1443 01:01:29,566 --> 01:01:32,527 but it's the state of Florida that has said "No." 1444 01:01:32,819 --> 01:01:34,529 It seems like with the school bus advertising, 1445 01:01:34,612 --> 01:01:37,115 you'd have to advertise on a ton of school buses. 1446 01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:39,158 Otherwise you're hitting the same kids every day. 1447 01:01:39,242 --> 01:01:40,869 It has to be a message. Right. 1448 01:01:40,952 --> 01:01:44,247 Right, because like a community college, it's great, go to college. 1449 01:01:44,330 --> 01:01:46,791 Right. They still do not want to do product. 1450 01:01:47,083 --> 01:01:49,002 Would it be more lucrative if it was products? 1451 01:01:49,085 --> 01:01:53,089 If they could do their 69 cent whatever in a school bus... 1452 01:01:53,256 --> 01:01:54,215 Yeah, yeah. 1453 01:01:54,299 --> 01:01:55,341 (LAUGHING) 1454 01:01:55,425 --> 01:01:57,510 But then, you're gonna deal with the health issues. 1455 01:01:57,594 --> 01:02:00,305 And with the parents that are upset that you're advertising... 1456 01:02:00,430 --> 01:02:02,307 Fast food. ...that stuff to their kids 1457 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:03,433 when they're captive on a school bus. 1458 01:02:03,516 --> 01:02:04,559 Yeah. 1459 01:02:04,642 --> 01:02:06,895 Now, Tallahassee is cutting and cutting and cutting, 1460 01:02:06,978 --> 01:02:08,688 but you need to implement this program, 1461 01:02:08,771 --> 01:02:10,440 but we're not giving you any funding to do it. 1462 01:02:10,523 --> 01:02:12,400 This is a law firm. Yeah. 1463 01:02:13,610 --> 01:02:15,236 Met-Rx. Orthodontics. 1464 01:02:15,737 --> 01:02:16,738 Orthodontist. 1465 01:02:16,821 --> 01:02:18,531 Very applicable to high school kids. 1466 01:02:18,615 --> 01:02:21,284 "Call us to place your business name here for advertising." 1467 01:02:21,534 --> 01:02:23,828 That would be my number. 1468 01:02:23,995 --> 01:02:25,288 (BOTH LAUGHING) 1469 01:02:25,413 --> 01:02:28,333 That's pretty much it. We had some other ones up... 1470 01:02:29,208 --> 01:02:32,003 The banner contract is a year. 1471 01:02:32,295 --> 01:02:34,047 I love that it's a high school where I can 1472 01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:36,549 go get the home of the two-for-one tattoo. 1473 01:02:37,342 --> 01:02:41,304 Well, (CLEARS THROAT) I am not sure about that one. 1474 01:02:41,387 --> 01:02:42,597 (BOTH LAUGHING) 1475 01:02:42,722 --> 01:02:44,432 This is truly advertising. 1476 01:02:44,849 --> 01:02:46,309 Someone looks at this and they go 1477 01:02:46,392 --> 01:02:47,769 "Oh yeah, I saw these guys on the bus." 1478 01:02:47,852 --> 01:02:50,480 With all the banners that are around here and on the inside of the stadium, 1479 01:02:50,563 --> 01:02:52,065 how much revenue does that generate a year? 1480 01:02:52,148 --> 01:02:56,194 Probably under five-seven thousand dollars. 1481 01:02:56,361 --> 01:02:59,614 I think I'm gonna have to come back and get a banner. 1482 01:03:00,073 --> 01:03:01,950 All right, yeah, a couple! On the fence line? 1483 01:03:02,033 --> 01:03:04,786 That's a deal, we're gonna shake on that right now. 1484 01:03:04,869 --> 01:03:05,912 All right. It's a deal. 1485 01:03:05,995 --> 01:03:07,205 Good. Who do I send the contract to? 1486 01:03:09,457 --> 01:03:11,209 Maybe this is as big as the wrap gets. 1487 01:03:11,292 --> 01:03:12,627 That's still pretty big. Yeah. 1488 01:03:13,127 --> 01:03:15,380 Really, so that's only 75 bucks a month? 1489 01:03:16,047 --> 01:03:18,716 Why do you think so many people are against advertising 1490 01:03:18,883 --> 01:03:20,593 in school districts and in high schools 1491 01:03:20,677 --> 01:03:22,345 and juniors highs, elementary schools? 1492 01:03:22,553 --> 01:03:24,055 Well, because school is sacred. 1493 01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:25,682 And school is meant for learning. 1494 01:03:26,766 --> 01:03:29,394 But when you're in a school and your budgets are being cut... 1495 01:03:29,477 --> 01:03:31,813 Right. How are you going to make ends meet 1496 01:03:32,063 --> 01:03:34,148 without letting people go or cutting programs. 1497 01:03:34,232 --> 01:03:35,733 You gotta be creative. Yeah. 1498 01:03:37,318 --> 01:03:38,403 Right there. Yeah, right there. 1499 01:03:38,528 --> 01:03:40,071 As low as $75 a month. 1500 01:03:40,238 --> 01:03:42,407 I think it's a really great way to advertise. 1501 01:03:42,490 --> 01:03:43,491 I love it. 1502 01:03:43,574 --> 01:03:44,993 Yeah. Great. Done. 1503 01:03:45,243 --> 01:03:47,120 Look at that, you're two for two. 1504 01:03:47,203 --> 01:03:49,038 We're doing great. We're doing great. 1505 01:03:49,122 --> 01:03:50,123 We're on a roll now. 1506 01:03:50,206 --> 01:03:51,791 Now if I can just convince them to name our building. 1507 01:03:51,916 --> 01:03:54,085 Oh, the building would be the best thing ever. (LAUGHING) 1508 01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:55,461 We're gonna work on that next. 1509 01:03:55,545 --> 01:03:56,546 We're really gonna work on that. 1510 01:03:56,629 --> 01:03:57,630 Yeah. 1511 01:04:02,135 --> 01:04:05,430 So I'm David Laks and I work with Morgan's team 1512 01:04:05,513 --> 01:04:09,308 and my role here is to help facilitate interaction 1513 01:04:09,392 --> 01:04:10,560 between the sponsors 1514 01:04:11,102 --> 01:04:13,479 and all the people involved in helping 1515 01:04:13,563 --> 01:04:15,314 to promote The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 1516 01:04:17,358 --> 01:04:18,943 This is what we're doing. 1517 01:04:19,610 --> 01:04:20,695 This whole thing's a bit layered, 1518 01:04:20,778 --> 01:04:23,281 because we're selling The Greatest Movie Ever Sold, 1519 01:04:24,949 --> 01:04:26,200 but The Greatest Movie Ever Sold 1520 01:04:26,284 --> 01:04:27,452 will be selling all your products. 1521 01:04:27,618 --> 01:04:31,956 What's good for you is good for the movie, good for Morgan, good for us. 1522 01:04:32,290 --> 01:04:33,791 It's all great. 1523 01:04:34,542 --> 01:04:36,335 Okay, so we set ourselves some objectives. 1524 01:04:36,461 --> 01:04:38,129 They shouldn't be too contentious. 1525 01:04:38,296 --> 01:04:39,964 They begin fairly robustly, I think. 1526 01:04:40,548 --> 01:04:42,800 Build buzz, for the purpose of selling tickets. 1527 01:04:43,009 --> 01:04:45,136 The audience is no longer an audience. 1528 01:04:45,219 --> 01:04:48,806 It's a partner in whatever communication you choose to create. 1529 01:04:49,098 --> 01:04:51,517 The first two weeks in a movie are crucial. 1530 01:04:51,976 --> 01:04:53,186 There's a lot of reasons for this. 1531 01:04:53,728 --> 01:04:56,147 There's just more movies, there's more content 1532 01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:57,982 there's more things in the world now, 1533 01:04:58,066 --> 01:05:00,860 so the cultural decay rate of ideas is much, much faster. 1534 01:05:01,152 --> 01:05:02,987 So one of the lines we discussed 1535 01:05:03,988 --> 01:05:07,658 the very first time we met with Morgan and the team was "Don't sell out, sell up!" 1536 01:05:08,076 --> 01:05:09,410 I kind of like that. Sounds good, 1537 01:05:09,494 --> 01:05:10,745 not sure what it meant, but I liked it. 1538 01:05:10,828 --> 01:05:13,289 We wanted to extend that kind of meta-narrative 1539 01:05:13,372 --> 01:05:15,666 down to the audience themselves and make them involved 1540 01:05:15,875 --> 01:05:17,376 in the construction of the marketing. 1541 01:05:17,585 --> 01:05:19,087 There's a hope that when you sit down 1542 01:05:19,170 --> 01:05:20,671 in a theater to watch the movie, 1543 01:05:21,172 --> 01:05:25,510 you will see and understand the flip-side of everything we did 1544 01:05:25,635 --> 01:05:27,804 to get you there because you would have been involved with it 1545 01:05:27,887 --> 01:05:29,097 in some capacity. 1546 01:05:29,889 --> 01:05:33,059 Hopefully making the whole experience kind of, pleasingly circular. 1547 01:05:33,893 --> 01:05:35,603 Well, we wanted to either name a building 1548 01:05:35,686 --> 01:05:40,274 or we saw the mural she wanted to paint on the back court of her school 1549 01:05:40,358 --> 01:05:41,984 which, to paint a mural there would be fantastic. 1550 01:05:42,110 --> 01:05:44,112 The banners that she has are amazing. 1551 01:05:44,862 --> 01:05:47,406 I told him my school is for sale. 1552 01:05:47,532 --> 01:05:48,741 (ALL LAUGHING) 1553 01:05:48,866 --> 01:05:50,201 And that's her district by the way. 1554 01:05:53,746 --> 01:05:57,250 We love the idea of the Board of Ed, wrapping something here. 1555 01:05:57,333 --> 01:05:58,835 It's just, we're open to anything. 1556 01:05:58,918 --> 01:06:03,047 We have 12 sponsors, and if we average out all the sponsors 1557 01:06:03,131 --> 01:06:06,551 and say, "Well, boy, each of our sponsors reaches 15 million people"' 1558 01:06:07,635 --> 01:06:11,222 that is a lot of people to reach with one viral promotion. 1559 01:06:12,223 --> 01:06:14,267 Since we do have a television station, 1560 01:06:14,350 --> 01:06:18,146 since I'm gonna have to pitch our education television station 1561 01:06:18,271 --> 01:06:22,275 which represents a wonderful opportunity for the film to co-brand, 1562 01:06:22,358 --> 01:06:24,402 we could maybe do a student film festival... 1563 01:06:25,194 --> 01:06:26,821 WOMAN: Ooh! A student film festival! A student film... 1564 01:06:26,904 --> 01:06:29,157 I thought about that idea on the way to the meeting 1565 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,869 so that could be a way to integrate and to co-brand the film 1566 01:06:32,952 --> 01:06:35,830 with our school system. 1567 01:06:36,414 --> 01:06:40,168 So, we're putting a sticker on our best selling pizzas 1568 01:06:41,252 --> 01:06:44,505 and that's gonna be a drive-to-web, that'll be our micro-site 1569 01:06:44,589 --> 01:06:49,635 and we'll link up to the movietickets.com site and whatever else works out. 1570 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,345 And we're gonna have 1571 01:06:51,429 --> 01:06:53,055 a portion of the proceeds 1572 01:06:53,139 --> 01:06:54,140 of the sales of the pizzas 1573 01:06:54,223 --> 01:06:58,269 gonna go to feeding people at a food bank. 1574 01:06:58,603 --> 01:07:02,106 It's really up to you. If you wanna do exposure on a building 1575 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:04,233 which then locks you into that... 1576 01:07:04,317 --> 01:07:05,568 SPURLOCK: I think a building is one thing. 1577 01:07:05,651 --> 01:07:06,694 Okay. 1578 01:07:06,777 --> 01:07:07,945 To do a building would be great. 1579 01:07:08,237 --> 01:07:11,699 To do, you know, a mural and some banners would be fantastic. 1580 01:07:11,782 --> 01:07:13,242 To do the film festival would be amazing. 1581 01:07:13,993 --> 01:07:15,995 Morgan did film a video for us. 1582 01:07:16,078 --> 01:07:17,538 For everyone who has flown JetBlue, 1583 01:07:17,622 --> 01:07:19,207 you know that we have individual TVs 1584 01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:22,793 in each seat-back, so we will run the welcome video, 1585 01:07:22,877 --> 01:07:26,422 I believe it's four to six weeks leading up to the premiere. 1586 01:07:26,505 --> 01:07:28,883 How did you get financing for the production? 1587 01:07:28,966 --> 01:07:30,551 It's being paid for by the companies. 1588 01:07:30,635 --> 01:07:32,178 It's being paid for by sponsors. 1589 01:07:32,345 --> 01:07:33,554 Oh! Excellent! 1590 01:07:33,638 --> 01:07:34,764 Yeah. Yeah. 1591 01:07:35,056 --> 01:07:37,058 Can you turn us over your sponsor list? 1592 01:07:37,350 --> 01:07:38,559 (ALL LAUGHING) 1593 01:07:39,769 --> 01:07:41,270 Maybe after the movie opens we can talk about that. 1594 01:07:41,354 --> 01:07:42,396 Okay. Yeah. 1595 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,481 Cool. Yeah. 1596 01:07:46,817 --> 01:07:49,403 What I've started to realize over the course of making this film 1597 01:07:49,487 --> 01:07:55,826 is that once you open the door to being what one person said, 1598 01:07:56,118 --> 01:07:58,746 one person called me, which is being quote unquote "brand friendly"' 1599 01:07:59,038 --> 01:08:00,706 then that door is open. 1600 01:08:00,831 --> 01:08:05,419 The floodgates are open and suddenly, all of these opportunities, 1601 01:08:05,503 --> 01:08:08,047 different opportunities, whether it's for promoting the film 1602 01:08:08,130 --> 01:08:09,882 like we're trying to do right now 1603 01:08:09,966 --> 01:08:11,676 or it's being tied to somebody else's product, 1604 01:08:11,759 --> 01:08:12,760 all these different opportunities 1605 01:08:12,843 --> 01:08:15,888 that represent real difficult 1606 01:08:16,013 --> 01:08:19,684 moral and artistic dilemmas start popping up. 1607 01:08:20,393 --> 01:08:21,769 Here's a case in point. 1608 01:08:22,895 --> 01:08:25,273 (ON VOICEMAIL) Morgan, it's Ben Silverman giving you a call. 1609 01:08:25,356 --> 01:08:29,277 I've set up a new business with Will Arnett and Jason Bateman 1610 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,113 that is focused on advertising production. 1611 01:08:32,196 --> 01:08:35,032 And we've got a really great idea we're working on 1612 01:08:35,157 --> 01:08:37,201 in and around the world of male grooming. 1613 01:08:37,368 --> 01:08:40,955 We want it to be funny and capture the tone that you do so well 1614 01:08:41,038 --> 01:08:45,626 and we thought of a fantastic brand partner to work on it with us. 1615 01:08:45,710 --> 01:08:47,628 Give me a call back and we'll set something up 1616 01:08:47,712 --> 01:08:50,047 to introduce you to Will and Jason. 1617 01:08:50,298 --> 01:08:51,590 Thanks, buddy. Bye. 1618 01:08:51,882 --> 01:08:53,050 How do you say no to that? 1619 01:08:53,718 --> 01:08:54,802 SPURLOCK: What's a sell-out? 1620 01:08:54,885 --> 01:08:56,304 A sell-out is someone that has no honor 1621 01:08:56,387 --> 01:08:58,264 and does something just for money 1622 01:08:58,431 --> 01:09:01,100 and doesn't take anything else into consideration. 1623 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,980 A sell-out is when, to attain a certain level 1624 01:09:06,063 --> 01:09:07,648 you give up some of those principles 1625 01:09:07,773 --> 01:09:10,026 that formed your identity to begin with. 1626 01:09:10,151 --> 01:09:13,404 So I'm making this film that's actually being paid for by advertisers, 1627 01:09:13,571 --> 01:09:14,947 by companies, about advertising. 1628 01:09:15,031 --> 01:09:16,032 Right. 1629 01:09:16,115 --> 01:09:18,075 Yeah. So am I selling out by doing that? 1630 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:19,368 I don't think so. 1631 01:09:20,036 --> 01:09:23,998 I mean, unless the point you're making is 1632 01:09:24,081 --> 01:09:26,167 that advertising is a bad thing. 1633 01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:28,419 Are you doing it with integrity? 1634 01:09:29,962 --> 01:09:31,630 I hope so. (LAUGHS) 1635 01:09:31,714 --> 01:09:34,717 And with a viewpoint of being objective? 1636 01:09:35,217 --> 01:09:39,138 Or are you doing it slanted, for the side of the advertiser 1637 01:09:39,263 --> 01:09:41,766 as a puppet, doing whatever the advertisement wants you to do? 1638 01:09:41,932 --> 01:09:44,977 As long as you do better than they do on it 1639 01:09:45,186 --> 01:09:47,104 then you're not... Then you're buying in. 1640 01:09:47,605 --> 01:09:48,606 SPURLOCK: Is that right? 1641 01:09:49,065 --> 01:09:50,858 Am I really not selling out? 1642 01:09:51,442 --> 01:09:53,944 Or am I finally just buying in? 1643 01:09:57,948 --> 01:09:59,325 (R&B MUSIC PLAYING) 1644 01:10:23,682 --> 01:10:27,353 MALE ANNOUNCER: Every sip gets you closer to Justin Timberlake mp3s. 1645 01:10:27,478 --> 01:10:29,438 Hey. Hey to you. 1646 01:10:29,522 --> 01:10:32,483 SPURLOCK: Seems like pushing a product is the new standard for gauging success. 1647 01:10:32,775 --> 01:10:37,029 Today's superstar singers pitch for perfume, action stars vouch for vodka. 1648 01:10:37,488 --> 01:10:40,533 Even America's Sweetheart is the new face for a make-up company. 1649 01:10:40,908 --> 01:10:43,577 For a filmmaker like me, this is pretty uncharted territory. 1650 01:10:43,661 --> 01:10:46,247 And to navigate these waters, who better to turn to 1651 01:10:46,330 --> 01:10:49,250 than one of the most successful celebrity spokesmen himself, 1652 01:10:49,542 --> 01:10:50,668 The Donald. 1653 01:10:51,335 --> 01:10:55,506 Is there a difference between selling out and being a celebrity spokesperson? 1654 01:10:56,465 --> 01:10:59,260 Well, the question's been asked because I do a lot of different things. 1655 01:10:59,343 --> 01:11:02,680 I'll do commercials for different companies, good companies. 1656 01:11:02,763 --> 01:11:04,890 I did Oreo's cookies with the Manning brothers 1657 01:11:04,974 --> 01:11:06,225 Peyton Manning and Eli Manning. 1658 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,601 Trump! 1659 01:11:07,685 --> 01:11:10,229 And we're gonna be huge. 1660 01:11:10,312 --> 01:11:12,648 I feel if the commercial is done properly, 1661 01:11:12,731 --> 01:11:14,400 if you watch what you're doing, 1662 01:11:14,608 --> 01:11:17,403 it actually enhances your brand. It doesn't hurt your brand. 1663 01:11:17,695 --> 01:11:21,532 There are some people, that, as an example there are certain singers, 1664 01:11:21,657 --> 01:11:25,202 entertainers that would never, ever do a commercial. 1665 01:11:25,286 --> 01:11:27,079 I could name names, but I don't want to 1666 01:11:27,163 --> 01:11:28,873 because I've tried to get certain songs 1667 01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:32,334 and I could offer them $10 million to play a song once 1668 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:33,419 and they would turn it down. 1669 01:11:33,544 --> 01:11:36,422 I mean, I think they're crazy, but they'd turn it down. 1670 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:38,466 But there are people like that, 1671 01:11:38,591 --> 01:11:40,426 that would never partake in a commercial. 1672 01:11:40,509 --> 01:11:42,553 I don't think they're helped or hurt, 1673 01:11:42,636 --> 01:11:44,555 but I think they should take the money and run. 1674 01:11:44,638 --> 01:11:45,973 You take care of yourself. I really appreciate it. 1675 01:11:46,056 --> 01:11:47,057 Thanks. 1676 01:11:47,725 --> 01:11:49,977 SPURLOCK: But some musicians have done just that. 1677 01:11:52,563 --> 01:11:55,065 You see, brands have always known that one of the fastest ways 1678 01:11:55,191 --> 01:11:56,942 to make their products seem cool 1679 01:11:57,026 --> 01:11:58,736 was to pair them with the hottest artists. 1680 01:12:00,529 --> 01:12:02,406 (VERTIGO PLAYING) 1681 01:12:10,247 --> 01:12:12,124 (BACK IN BLACK PLAYING) 1682 01:12:18,589 --> 01:12:20,049 (SPACE ODDITY PLAYING) 1683 01:12:26,639 --> 01:12:28,516 SPURLOCK: And today, more and more musicians 1684 01:12:28,599 --> 01:12:30,434 are finding out just how important it can be 1685 01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:33,020 to get their music supported by brands. 1686 01:12:33,395 --> 01:12:37,983 What you have now is artists partner up with different brands 1687 01:12:38,067 --> 01:12:39,944 to kind of, get that extra push, 1688 01:12:40,027 --> 01:12:44,031 and you do anything from liquor sponsors 1689 01:12:44,114 --> 01:12:47,326 to cell phone companies to car companies all the way around, 1690 01:12:47,409 --> 01:12:50,162 to, kind of, round out the promotion of your project. 1691 01:12:50,454 --> 01:12:54,875 The artists are competing for impressions. 1692 01:12:54,959 --> 01:12:57,920 If they can do commercials, if they can endorse a product, 1693 01:12:58,003 --> 01:13:01,590 anything that they can do to get more impressions, the better. 1694 01:13:01,674 --> 01:13:05,135 After the Bacardi ad came out, I don't know how quickly it happened, 1695 01:13:05,886 --> 01:13:08,222 you could physically see one step away 1696 01:13:08,305 --> 01:13:10,599 from having a line chart of like, 1697 01:13:10,766 --> 01:13:14,728 "This is how many more people are starting to listen to your music." 1698 01:13:14,812 --> 01:13:17,690 Licensing to the commercials and stuff 1699 01:13:17,773 --> 01:13:20,693 now I know, just is a good way for a lot of people to hear you. 1700 01:13:20,776 --> 01:13:23,862 And I just want everyone to hear our music, that's all I want. 1701 01:13:24,113 --> 01:13:25,406 What would you never put your music in? 1702 01:13:25,531 --> 01:13:28,158 If somebody said, "We've got a commercial, we're selling blank." 1703 01:13:29,243 --> 01:13:30,911 Our sniff test for whether or not 1704 01:13:30,995 --> 01:13:32,413 it's all right to put a song in a commercial 1705 01:13:32,496 --> 01:13:34,498 is whether or not that commercial 1706 01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:37,751 is likely to make you feel worse about yourself. 1707 01:13:38,085 --> 01:13:40,170 Is it honoring the music? 1708 01:13:40,296 --> 01:13:43,173 And I gotta say, we have not always done this. 1709 01:13:43,257 --> 01:13:45,134 There were times, especially early in our career 1710 01:13:45,217 --> 01:13:46,260 where we just needed the cash 1711 01:13:46,385 --> 01:13:48,053 and our songs were in 1712 01:13:48,137 --> 01:13:49,221 some pretty gross commercials. 1713 01:13:49,305 --> 01:13:52,016 They had the "Got milk?" ads, and we never did a "Got milk" ad 1714 01:13:52,099 --> 01:13:53,517 because Dre doesn't drink milk, 1715 01:13:53,601 --> 01:13:54,685 you know what I'm saying? 1716 01:13:54,768 --> 01:13:56,478 It was as simple as that. It was a big check and everything 1717 01:13:56,562 --> 01:13:58,689 you know, but Dre didn't drink milk, so we never did it. 1718 01:13:58,772 --> 01:14:01,066 I was going through all kinds of ideas 1719 01:14:01,150 --> 01:14:03,402 with the manager and were like, 1720 01:14:03,485 --> 01:14:05,613 "Well, maybe it can be soy milk." 1721 01:14:05,696 --> 01:14:07,239 You know, I mean, they were like "No, it's gotta be milk." 1722 01:14:07,323 --> 01:14:08,449 So we didn't do it 1723 01:14:08,532 --> 01:14:12,036 because that maintains our artistic integrity of what we stand for. 1724 01:14:12,202 --> 01:14:14,788 Are you trying to establish OK Go as a brand? 1725 01:14:15,205 --> 01:14:18,417 Every band ever has had an identity. 1726 01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:20,961 Every person has an identity 1727 01:14:21,045 --> 01:14:22,463 and, it's cool to have your own identity, 1728 01:14:22,546 --> 01:14:23,547 but when you call it a brand, 1729 01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:24,632 it's suddenly cheesy. 1730 01:14:24,715 --> 01:14:27,426 Would you guys be willing to do a song, 1731 01:14:27,551 --> 01:14:30,220 create an original identity anthem for the movie? 1732 01:14:30,387 --> 01:14:31,388 I'd love to. 1733 01:14:31,513 --> 01:14:32,514 That sounds amazing. Yeah, awesome. 1734 01:14:32,598 --> 01:14:34,141 Does that... Wait, hold on. 1735 01:14:34,224 --> 01:14:39,188 If we make the theme for The Greatest Movie Ever Sold, 1736 01:14:39,563 --> 01:14:43,734 does that mean that we're the greatest rock band ever to write a theme song? 1737 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,361 Absolutely. 1738 01:14:45,778 --> 01:14:49,239 I started this PR firm back in 1983 1739 01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:56,080 and something occurred to me: that we were living in wacky times. 1740 01:14:56,163 --> 01:14:57,331 Right. 1741 01:14:57,414 --> 01:14:58,957 And here is what was wacky about them. 1742 01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:03,671 In the world we live, there's this umbilical cord 1743 01:15:03,754 --> 01:15:08,008 between fame and credibility. 1744 01:15:08,342 --> 01:15:11,512 So, visibility equals credibility. 1745 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,058 In the world we live in, you cannot be credible unless you're visible. 1746 01:15:16,266 --> 01:15:18,060 And so you see what we're doing here. 1747 01:15:18,143 --> 01:15:19,269 Yeah, I do. 1748 01:15:19,353 --> 01:15:20,354 What do we do? 1749 01:15:21,146 --> 01:15:22,314 Well... 1750 01:15:22,398 --> 01:15:24,858 What do I do to get the message out? 1751 01:15:24,942 --> 01:15:26,318 Sell, sell, sell! 1752 01:15:26,443 --> 01:15:27,569 That's it? 1753 01:15:27,695 --> 01:15:28,987 What the hell do you think you do, son? (LAUGHS) 1754 01:15:29,071 --> 01:15:31,740 Sell! You're in America! 1755 01:15:33,117 --> 01:15:36,328 The path to salvation is not through being quiet. 1756 01:15:36,453 --> 01:15:37,746 Okay. And being subtle. 1757 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:39,957 Not in today's world. You gotta sell. 1758 01:15:46,255 --> 01:15:48,507 SPURLOCK: This is where you really start to see cause and effect. 1759 01:15:50,134 --> 01:15:54,263 It's pretty amazing to see behind the curtain 1760 01:15:54,596 --> 01:15:56,181 like we've gotten to on this film. 1761 01:15:56,932 --> 01:16:02,479 Now, what happens from this point on, that's the real question. 1762 01:16:03,355 --> 01:16:06,150 Now the movie's gonna go out in the world. 1763 01:16:07,735 --> 01:16:09,236 And now's the point 1764 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,619 where I start to wonder exactly how affected I'll be by everything. 1765 01:16:18,245 --> 01:16:20,706 This is it. This is the start. 1766 01:16:22,249 --> 01:16:23,542 This is the beginning of the whole thing. 1767 01:16:24,668 --> 01:16:27,296 As much as the beginning of the process was the beginning of this, 1768 01:16:27,713 --> 01:16:30,007 with what our movie is about, like, this is the beginning. 1769 01:16:30,632 --> 01:16:32,384 This is literally where it really starts. 1770 01:16:32,593 --> 01:16:32,634 You know our next guest from his 1771 01:16:32,634 --> 01:16:34,261 You know our next guest from his 1772 01:16:34,344 --> 01:16:36,513 prize-winning documentary, Super Size Me. 1773 01:16:36,597 --> 01:16:39,391 His latest is called The Greatest Movie Ever Sold. 1774 01:16:39,516 --> 01:16:42,686 It is brought to you by Hyatt, POM Wonderful, JetBlue, 1775 01:16:42,770 --> 01:16:45,689 Mini Cooper, Mane 'n Tail Shampoo, the island of Aruba 1776 01:16:45,773 --> 01:16:48,817 and Amy's Frozen Pizza. It opens in theaters Friday. 1777 01:16:48,901 --> 01:16:51,195 Please say hello to Morgan Spurlock! 1778 01:16:51,487 --> 01:16:53,572 (THE GREATEST SONG I EVER HEARD PLAYING) 1779 01:16:55,699 --> 01:16:56,784 (INDISTINCT CHATTERING) 1780 01:18:54,568 --> 01:18:57,404 What's happening right now is in the movie? 1781 01:18:57,487 --> 01:18:58,864 Is actually in the film right now. 1782 01:18:59,072 --> 01:19:01,533 So we've actually in a way, gone back in time. 1783 01:19:01,617 --> 01:19:03,827 We have. The space-time continuum has shifted completely. 1784 01:19:03,911 --> 01:19:06,038 This is like the Inception of documentaries. 1785 01:19:12,836 --> 01:19:14,838 Man, these Old Navy clothes look so good! 1786 01:19:15,339 --> 01:19:16,548 So here's the trailers you've done. 1787 01:19:16,757 --> 01:19:19,843 We did Avatar, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story 3 1788 01:19:20,385 --> 01:19:23,138 and this is you, right here, that we're doing today. 1789 01:19:23,221 --> 01:19:24,222 And now The Greatest Movie. 1790 01:19:24,848 --> 01:19:26,642 So you have a key to their brain. 1791 01:19:42,783 --> 01:19:44,826 Here we go, three, two... 1792 01:19:45,619 --> 01:19:47,788 And I'd like to welcome you aboard JetBlue Airways, 1793 01:19:47,871 --> 01:19:49,790 the greatest airline you'll ever fly. 1794 01:19:50,290 --> 01:19:53,210 Now that we're in the air I'd like to tell you a little more about your flight. 1795 01:19:54,544 --> 01:19:56,880 ALL: The Greatest Movie Ever Sold! 1796 01:20:42,801 --> 01:20:45,512 You are a shameless whore if ever I've met one, Morgan Spurlock. 1797 01:20:45,595 --> 01:20:46,555 Yes, I am. 1798 01:20:46,638 --> 01:20:47,639 Morgan Spurlock, everyone. 1799 01:20:47,723 --> 01:20:50,475 The Greatest Movie Ever Sold opens Friday! We'll be right back. 1800 01:20:50,559 --> 01:20:52,310 SPURLOCK: Yep, everywhere you look these days 1801 01:20:52,394 --> 01:20:55,105 it seems like someone's trying to sell you something. 1802 01:20:55,605 --> 01:20:57,733 Best I can do is just show you that it's out there. 1803 01:20:57,983 --> 01:21:00,902 Because at the end of the day, marketing works. 1804 01:21:05,032 --> 01:21:07,117 But maybe we all don't have to buy in. 1805 01:21:07,284 --> 01:21:10,370 Maybe there's still a place free from all the advertising 1806 01:21:10,454 --> 01:21:12,956 where we can actually think for ourselves. 1807 01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:18,295 So go outside! Take a nice long walk. Find that place. 1808 01:21:18,795 --> 01:21:22,716 And when you do it, do it in a nice comfortable pair of Merrells. 1809 01:21:26,511 --> 01:21:28,430 Let's throw some rocks. 1810 01:21:28,722 --> 01:21:30,432 (SHUTTERBUG PLAYING) 1811 01:21:56,666 --> 01:21:59,836 NADER: Oh, boy. Look at this. 1812 01:22:02,506 --> 01:22:05,801 Oh, man! Payola! 1813 01:22:09,304 --> 01:22:10,972 Not only that, 1814 01:22:12,724 --> 01:22:14,184 but I'll never be able to forget it. 1815 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,689 After a million steps, "Morgan gave me this." 1816 01:22:21,691 --> 01:22:25,028 Morgan Spurlock on the march! 1817 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:28,907 Thank you very much, Morgan. Really, it's very thoughtful of you. 1818 01:22:30,742 --> 01:22:32,369 It's hard to get shoes that fit. 1819 01:22:32,786 --> 01:22:34,371 (SHUTTERBUG PLAYING) 1820 01:24:34,699 --> 01:24:36,534 (PHONE RINGING) 1821 01:24:36,618 --> 01:24:37,744 (ON PHONE) Yeah. Ron. 1822 01:24:37,827 --> 01:24:38,954 SPURLOCK: Hey, man, how are you? 1823 01:24:39,037 --> 01:24:40,372 I'm good. What's up? I'm good. 1824 01:24:40,455 --> 01:24:42,040 I just wanted to call you back, 1825 01:24:42,123 --> 01:24:44,042 touch base with you and hear what you were thinking. 1826 01:24:44,125 --> 01:24:47,337 Okay, it's a little weird. I'm still talking about it with Tarssa, 1827 01:24:47,462 --> 01:24:49,547 and she's not quite ready to respond yet, I don't think. 1828 01:24:49,673 --> 01:24:51,091 Okay. Cool, man. 1829 01:24:51,174 --> 01:24:54,135 'Cause the last couple of paintings I sold, sold for a $120. 1830 01:24:54,219 --> 01:24:56,263 So, I don't know... I know you're big time. 1831 01:24:56,346 --> 01:24:57,722 I know that. 1832 01:24:58,348 --> 01:24:59,432 Can I put you on the phone with her? 1833 01:24:59,516 --> 01:25:01,351 'Cause I wanna make a decision and it's getting harder. 1834 01:25:01,434 --> 01:25:02,686 Do you have like 10 more seconds? 1835 01:25:02,727 --> 01:25:04,646 Sure. Hold on. 1836 01:25:04,729 --> 01:25:05,772 TARSSA: Hey, Morgan. 1837 01:25:05,855 --> 01:25:06,898 Hey, Tarssa, how are you? 1838 01:25:06,982 --> 01:25:08,108 Good. How are you? Good. 1839 01:25:08,191 --> 01:25:09,734 So, I just wanted to talk to you guys 1840 01:25:09,818 --> 01:25:11,736 about the placement in the film... 1841 01:25:12,445 --> 01:25:15,282 I was telling Ron, we could have a card with his photograph 1842 01:25:15,365 --> 01:25:16,825 of him painting the painting. 1843 01:25:17,158 --> 01:25:18,660 So he could, so Ron English could be 1844 01:25:18,743 --> 01:25:20,245 "The Greatest Artist to Ever Paint." 1845 01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:22,122 Um. 1846 01:25:22,205 --> 01:25:25,166 Yeah, I mean, the greatest artist 1847 01:25:25,250 --> 01:25:28,169 that ever lived or the greatest artist... 1848 01:25:28,545 --> 01:25:30,588 Yeah, he wants to be the greatest living artist. 1849 01:25:30,672 --> 01:25:32,132 The greatest living artist. 1850 01:25:32,215 --> 01:25:34,342 Okay, done, so we'll say, "Ron English, The Greatest Living Artist." 1851 01:25:34,426 --> 01:25:36,261 And he'll be the only person in the credits, 1852 01:25:36,344 --> 01:25:38,138 that'll actually have a photograph of him. 1853 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:39,681 Cool. 145354

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