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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,265 --> 00:00:06,309 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,310 --> 00:00:07,658 the people are represented 3 00:00:07,659 --> 00:00:10,139 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:11,967 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:11,968 --> 00:00:14,883 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:17,712 These are their stories. 7 00:00:21,586 --> 00:00:22,978 You look great. 8 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,501 Are you sure? 9 00:00:24,502 --> 00:00:25,589 I swear. 10 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:27,722 You're perfect. 11 00:00:27,723 --> 00:00:28,853 Okay, people. 12 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:30,420 Places, everyone. 13 00:00:30,421 --> 00:00:32,161 Places! 14 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:34,772 Quiet on set! 15 00:00:34,773 --> 00:00:37,906 And action. 16 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:39,516 My Best Defense. 17 00:00:39,517 --> 00:00:41,953 It literally does everything. 18 00:00:41,954 --> 00:00:46,349 Shields your skin from harmful UV rays, hides blemishes, 19 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:49,222 leaves you looking and feeling flawless. 20 00:00:49,223 --> 00:00:52,181 Use it as part of your daily skincare routine. 21 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:55,358 It's the only protection you'll ever need. 22 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:57,099 And cut! 23 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,492 Beautiful. 24 00:00:58,493 --> 00:00:59,797 Let's reset and do it one more time. 25 00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:03,453 There's a guy downstairs looking for you. 26 00:01:12,191 --> 00:01:13,833 She's a kid. 27 00:01:15,034 --> 00:01:18,471 Can't be more than 16, 17. 28 00:01:18,472 --> 00:01:21,518 MLI says body temp and rigidity puts time of death 29 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:23,955 between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. 30 00:01:23,956 --> 00:01:25,478 We got a name? 31 00:01:25,479 --> 00:01:28,612 No. No wallet, no ID, no phone. 32 00:01:28,613 --> 00:01:30,657 Oh, boy. 33 00:01:30,658 --> 00:01:34,531 Looks like she went face first into this dumpster, huh? 34 00:01:34,532 --> 00:01:36,141 Yeah, she was strangled too. 35 00:01:36,142 --> 00:01:39,189 Got petechial hemorrhaging in her eyes, marks on her neck. 36 00:01:40,886 --> 00:01:43,540 Oh. 37 00:01:43,541 --> 00:01:45,585 Necktie. 38 00:01:45,586 --> 00:01:47,718 Make sure we get that to the lab and have that tested. 39 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:52,462 Clothing still intact, so probably not a sexual assault. 40 00:01:52,463 --> 00:01:54,290 Who found the body? 41 00:01:54,291 --> 00:01:56,205 Maintenance guy from the flower shop nearby. 42 00:01:56,206 --> 00:01:58,816 911 call came in at 8:07 p.m. 43 00:01:58,817 --> 00:02:00,383 You know, I noticed they had a camera. 44 00:02:00,384 --> 00:02:01,862 Let's make sure we get that footage, okay? 45 00:02:01,863 --> 00:02:03,908 Mm-hmm. 46 00:02:03,909 --> 00:02:06,433 Somebody lost their child tonight. 47 00:02:08,435 --> 00:02:10,394 And they probably don't even know it. 48 00:03:01,923 --> 00:03:04,969 About an hour ago, I was taking out the trash. 49 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:06,753 I saw her legs. 50 00:03:06,754 --> 00:03:08,407 And then all of a sudden, a guy bolted 51 00:03:08,408 --> 00:03:10,191 from behind the dumpster. 52 00:03:10,192 --> 00:03:12,029 Which way did he go? 53 00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:14,681 - Up towards that corner. - Thank you. 54 00:03:14,682 --> 00:03:15,856 You get a good look at him? 55 00:03:15,857 --> 00:03:19,947 Yeah, uh, white, thin, about 5'5". 56 00:03:19,948 --> 00:03:22,341 - Hair color? - Blond. 57 00:03:22,342 --> 00:03:23,908 And he was wearing a blue puffy jacket. 58 00:03:23,909 --> 00:03:25,431 Okay. 59 00:03:25,432 --> 00:03:27,390 We're looking for a male, 5'5", thin, blond hair, 60 00:03:27,391 --> 00:03:29,043 wearing a blue jacket. 61 00:03:29,044 --> 00:03:31,263 Let's set up a perimeter north of Christopher, south of Bank. 62 00:03:31,264 --> 00:03:32,830 Let's go. 63 00:03:37,009 --> 00:03:38,837 Yeah, blue puffer. Hey, kid. 64 00:03:40,447 --> 00:03:42,143 Hey! Police! 65 00:03:43,363 --> 00:03:45,625 Kid, stop! 66 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:46,757 NYPD! 67 00:03:46,758 --> 00:03:51,370 Hey! Stop! 68 00:03:51,371 --> 00:03:53,024 Hey! Do not move! 69 00:03:53,025 --> 00:03:54,853 Keep your hands right there. 70 00:03:56,507 --> 00:03:57,985 Get on the van. 71 00:04:03,644 --> 00:04:04,992 That's nice. Where'd you get this? 72 00:04:04,993 --> 00:04:07,256 - I found it. - You found it, huh? Where? 73 00:04:07,257 --> 00:04:09,562 - In the trash. - In the trash. 74 00:04:09,563 --> 00:04:11,651 - How old are you? - 18. 75 00:04:11,652 --> 00:04:12,957 - Try again. - 15. 76 00:04:12,958 --> 00:04:14,306 15. 77 00:04:14,307 --> 00:04:16,743 He's 15. 78 00:04:16,744 --> 00:04:18,745 We recovered the murder weapon, 79 00:04:18,746 --> 00:04:21,748 and we're getting it tested for DNA. 80 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:25,143 And if it's a match, that means life in prison. 81 00:04:25,144 --> 00:04:26,840 I didn't kill anyone, though. 82 00:04:26,841 --> 00:04:28,929 Does this kid look like he wears a necktie? 83 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:31,018 We got a witness that says they saw him running away 84 00:04:31,019 --> 00:04:32,281 from the dead woman's body. 85 00:04:32,282 --> 00:04:34,761 He was found with a very expensive piece of women's jewelry. 86 00:04:34,762 --> 00:04:36,328 Now, I'm willing to bet that we will 87 00:04:36,329 --> 00:04:38,112 be able to prove that that bracelet 88 00:04:38,113 --> 00:04:40,376 belongs to the dead girl. 89 00:04:40,377 --> 00:04:42,943 Yeah. 90 00:04:42,944 --> 00:04:44,423 I was looking for food. 91 00:04:44,424 --> 00:04:47,208 And she was already dead, so I took the bracelet. 92 00:04:47,209 --> 00:04:49,298 All right, and how about her phone and her wallet? 93 00:04:49,299 --> 00:04:51,952 That's all there was. 94 00:04:51,953 --> 00:04:52,998 I swear. 95 00:04:55,392 --> 00:04:57,784 You living on the street? 96 00:04:57,785 --> 00:04:59,874 His mother has a problem with drugs. 97 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:04,138 How about your father? 98 00:05:04,139 --> 00:05:05,401 I don't have one. 99 00:05:12,365 --> 00:05:14,148 All right. 100 00:05:14,149 --> 00:05:16,326 We will be right back. 101 00:05:24,595 --> 00:05:26,639 Did the kid's story check out? 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,162 Got video from the flower shop 103 00:05:28,163 --> 00:05:29,468 that was near the crime scene. 104 00:05:29,469 --> 00:05:31,122 Check this out. 105 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:32,863 So that is our victim 106 00:05:32,864 --> 00:05:35,082 27 minutes before the maintenance guy found her. 107 00:05:35,083 --> 00:05:37,563 But keep watching. It gets interesting. 108 00:05:37,564 --> 00:05:40,305 Whoever the mystery man is, he drags her 109 00:05:40,306 --> 00:05:41,480 in the direction of the dumpster, 110 00:05:41,481 --> 00:05:43,352 where the body was found. 111 00:05:43,353 --> 00:05:45,789 And then... 112 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:49,009 24 minutes later, there's Joey walking towards the dumpster... 113 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:50,446 no cameras back there. 114 00:05:50,447 --> 00:05:53,013 Then three minutes later, he comes back out 115 00:05:53,014 --> 00:05:54,101 with the vic's bracelet. 116 00:05:54,102 --> 00:05:55,364 He's telling the truth. 117 00:05:55,365 --> 00:05:57,583 - Okay, call Social Services. - Already did. 118 00:05:57,584 --> 00:05:59,498 Uh, how'd you make out at Missing Persons? 119 00:05:59,499 --> 00:06:01,718 I cross-checked all the new reports. 120 00:06:01,719 --> 00:06:02,936 No luck. 121 00:06:02,937 --> 00:06:04,416 Facial rec? 122 00:06:04,417 --> 00:06:06,723 Flower shop footage is too grainy. 123 00:06:06,724 --> 00:06:08,289 This is the only other photo we have of her, 124 00:06:08,290 --> 00:06:11,728 and her face is too messed up to make a comparison. 125 00:06:11,729 --> 00:06:13,383 Poor kid. 126 00:06:15,602 --> 00:06:18,082 The victim's DNA is on the necktie, 127 00:06:18,083 --> 00:06:20,084 along with someone else's. 128 00:06:20,085 --> 00:06:21,912 You run it through the database? 129 00:06:21,913 --> 00:06:25,481 It's not in the system, so we can eliminate convicted felons. 130 00:06:25,482 --> 00:06:27,744 Anything else? 131 00:06:27,745 --> 00:06:30,007 Well, it's likely a Caucasian male, 132 00:06:30,008 --> 00:06:33,576 but there's no shared genetic makeup with the victim. 133 00:06:33,577 --> 00:06:36,448 So we can eliminate biological family members. 134 00:06:36,449 --> 00:06:37,667 Well, that only leaves us 135 00:06:37,668 --> 00:06:39,016 with a few hundred million suspects. 136 00:06:39,017 --> 00:06:40,496 Yeah. 137 00:06:40,497 --> 00:06:41,975 Well, in the more bad news department, 138 00:06:41,976 --> 00:06:43,629 I still haven't been able to determine 139 00:06:43,630 --> 00:06:45,283 this victim's identity. 140 00:06:45,284 --> 00:06:46,284 I can't believe her parents 141 00:06:46,285 --> 00:06:47,807 haven't reported her missing yet. 142 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:48,852 I know. 143 00:06:48,853 --> 00:06:49,984 - Thank you. - Yeah. 144 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:56,816 Vince, I need you guys to go back and canvass the area 145 00:06:56,817 --> 00:06:59,776 around the crime scene, see if anybody can identify 146 00:06:59,777 --> 00:07:01,168 the picture of the vic. 147 00:07:01,169 --> 00:07:02,735 Have you seen this woman? 148 00:07:02,736 --> 00:07:03,781 Sorry. 149 00:07:05,783 --> 00:07:07,958 - Any luck? - None. 150 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:10,569 Excuse me, miss? 151 00:07:10,570 --> 00:07:12,092 Have you seen this woman? 152 00:07:12,093 --> 00:07:14,791 Yeah, I've seen her around the neighborhood. 153 00:07:14,792 --> 00:07:16,270 Do you know her name? 154 00:07:16,271 --> 00:07:17,881 I've got ten preschool kids to keep an eye on. 155 00:07:17,882 --> 00:07:19,535 I don't really have time to socialize. 156 00:07:19,536 --> 00:07:21,668 How about yesterday? You see her yesterday? 157 00:07:23,322 --> 00:07:24,714 Yeah. 158 00:07:24,715 --> 00:07:26,759 She was with a guy, and he was yelling at her. 159 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,239 Could you hear what he was saying? 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,762 No. 161 00:07:29,763 --> 00:07:31,285 What time was this? 162 00:07:31,286 --> 00:07:34,941 Well, I was on my way home from work, so around 4:30. 163 00:07:34,942 --> 00:07:37,901 And this guy, had you ever seen him before? 164 00:07:37,902 --> 00:07:39,076 No, sorry. 165 00:07:39,077 --> 00:07:40,686 Can you describe what he looked like? 166 00:07:40,687 --> 00:07:45,517 Uh, white, medium build, medium height, bald. 167 00:07:45,518 --> 00:07:47,084 How old was he? 168 00:07:47,085 --> 00:07:50,522 Old. Like, 50? 169 00:07:50,523 --> 00:07:52,829 Oh, and he was smoking a cigarette. 170 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:55,396 Can you show us where he was standing? 171 00:07:55,397 --> 00:07:56,485 Thank you. 172 00:07:59,053 --> 00:08:01,141 I don't see any cigarette butts. 173 00:08:01,142 --> 00:08:02,447 Mm. 174 00:08:02,448 --> 00:08:05,232 Here we go. 175 00:08:05,233 --> 00:08:07,104 It's a long shot. 176 00:08:07,105 --> 00:08:09,280 Maybe we can get some prints off the box. 177 00:08:09,281 --> 00:08:11,282 I'll call the lab, see if they can rush it. 178 00:08:11,283 --> 00:08:12,762 Yeah, if we can't get him on murder, 179 00:08:12,763 --> 00:08:14,591 maybe we can get him for littering. 180 00:08:17,071 --> 00:08:18,985 Mr. Paven, NYPD. 181 00:08:18,986 --> 00:08:21,161 Need to ask you a few questions. 182 00:08:21,162 --> 00:08:22,206 Hey, what's up? 183 00:08:22,207 --> 00:08:23,251 You know this woman? 184 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,254 What'd she say? 185 00:08:27,255 --> 00:08:28,647 - Nothing now. - You got a gun on you? 186 00:08:28,648 --> 00:08:30,431 - Yeah. - Hands on the car. 187 00:08:30,432 --> 00:08:31,520 Oh, wait, man! 188 00:08:31,521 --> 00:08:32,651 But the gun is legal. 189 00:08:32,652 --> 00:08:34,571 All right? I'm on the job. 190 00:08:34,872 --> 00:08:36,176 You're a limo driver. 191 00:08:36,177 --> 00:08:38,091 Yeah, I also work private security. 192 00:08:38,092 --> 00:08:40,790 Yeah, well, if everything checks out, you'll get it back. 193 00:08:40,791 --> 00:08:42,313 - Come on. - I'm not going anywhere, man. 194 00:08:42,314 --> 00:08:43,749 My client is in that building. 195 00:08:43,750 --> 00:08:45,709 Tell him he's gotta find another ride. 196 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,324 Is this really necessary? 197 00:08:53,325 --> 00:08:55,892 Look, whatever that bitch said, it is a lie. 198 00:08:55,893 --> 00:08:59,591 You've got a lot of anger towards this young woman... 199 00:08:59,592 --> 00:09:01,898 girl... 200 00:09:01,899 --> 00:09:02,899 and she's dead. 201 00:09:05,076 --> 00:09:07,991 And we have a witness who saw you bullying her a few hours 202 00:09:07,992 --> 00:09:09,819 before she was killed. 203 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:13,823 Now, why were you, a grown man, yelling at a teenage girl 204 00:09:13,824 --> 00:09:15,038 on the sidewalk? 205 00:09:15,739 --> 00:09:18,654 Maybe I should have a lawyer here or something. 206 00:09:18,655 --> 00:09:21,482 That's fine by me. 207 00:09:21,483 --> 00:09:23,615 In the meantime, I'm going to confiscate your gun. 208 00:09:23,616 --> 00:09:25,356 Wait, look, I need that for work. 209 00:09:25,357 --> 00:09:26,444 I've got a license for it. 210 00:09:26,445 --> 00:09:27,750 You can't just take that from me. 211 00:09:27,751 --> 00:09:29,403 Yes, I can. 212 00:09:29,404 --> 00:09:31,449 You're a person of interest in a murder case. 213 00:09:31,450 --> 00:09:33,451 You're refusing to cooperate with the police. 214 00:09:33,452 --> 00:09:36,759 As far as I'm concerned, that makes you a threat to public safety. 215 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,543 H... hold on. 216 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:39,763 Look. 217 00:09:41,852 --> 00:09:45,332 My son, all right, he follows that girl on social media. 218 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:47,378 She was pushing some new sports drink. 219 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:48,901 You know, said that it would make him strong 220 00:09:48,902 --> 00:09:51,077 and full of energy or some bull like that. 221 00:09:51,078 --> 00:09:52,601 I mean, this girl made it a contest. 222 00:09:52,602 --> 00:09:54,385 How many can you drink in a row? 223 00:09:54,386 --> 00:09:58,737 So my kid ended up downing, like, five of them in less than an hour. 224 00:09:58,738 --> 00:10:00,347 And there was so much caffeine in it 225 00:10:00,348 --> 00:10:02,785 that he ended up having a freaking heart attack. 226 00:10:02,786 --> 00:10:04,701 I'm serious, all right? He almost died. 227 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,704 How did you find her? 228 00:10:08,705 --> 00:10:11,010 That girl posted, like, everything she did, 229 00:10:11,011 --> 00:10:12,969 literally everything. 230 00:10:12,970 --> 00:10:15,362 So I knew that she was doing a commercial. 231 00:10:15,363 --> 00:10:17,147 She even said the name of the studio. 232 00:10:17,148 --> 00:10:18,801 So I looked it up, went down there, 233 00:10:18,802 --> 00:10:20,716 and, you know, I had a little talk with her. 234 00:10:20,717 --> 00:10:24,023 Okay, where were you between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. last night? 235 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:25,547 I was in Jersey with a client. 236 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:28,985 I can give you his contact info if you need. 237 00:10:28,986 --> 00:10:32,336 Yeah, I'm gonna need the name of the young woman you accosted. 238 00:10:34,687 --> 00:10:36,384 Kaitlyn was so special. 239 00:10:38,386 --> 00:10:43,086 She's beautiful, inside and out. 240 00:10:43,087 --> 00:10:47,046 I've gotta ask, is there a reason 241 00:10:47,047 --> 00:10:48,831 that you didn't report your daughter missing? 242 00:10:48,832 --> 00:10:50,920 She didn't live here. We didn't know. 243 00:10:50,921 --> 00:10:53,183 She doesn't live here anymore. 244 00:10:53,184 --> 00:10:55,446 She was 17? 245 00:10:55,447 --> 00:10:56,883 Yeah, um... 246 00:10:58,755 --> 00:11:01,800 She's a... a... 247 00:11:01,801 --> 00:11:02,932 she was a model, 248 00:11:02,933 --> 00:11:05,325 so she lived with a group of models. 249 00:11:05,326 --> 00:11:07,371 No school? 250 00:11:07,372 --> 00:11:09,634 She graduated early. 251 00:11:09,635 --> 00:11:11,549 But we're still very much involved. 252 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:14,422 We... we spoke to her every night. 253 00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:18,077 Just not last night. 254 00:11:18,078 --> 00:11:22,734 We were at a premiere, Michelle's premiere. 255 00:11:22,735 --> 00:11:27,130 She's a... she's a film director. 256 00:11:27,131 --> 00:11:29,394 I promised my daughter I'd take her this weekend. 257 00:11:30,917 --> 00:11:35,399 Was Kaitlyn having any problems with anyone? 258 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,230 She... She had a boyfriend. 259 00:11:40,231 --> 00:11:41,971 He's... he's a little older. 260 00:11:41,972 --> 00:11:43,320 They were in the process of breaking up. 261 00:11:52,156 --> 00:11:54,984 Who the hell lets their daughter live alone at 17? 262 00:11:54,985 --> 00:11:56,246 What do you mean? 263 00:11:56,247 --> 00:11:58,291 Kids leave for college all the time at 18. 264 00:11:58,292 --> 00:12:00,293 - Same thing. - No, no, no. 265 00:12:00,294 --> 00:12:02,469 Big difference between 17 and 18. 266 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:05,908 And college is filled with college kids, you know? 267 00:12:05,909 --> 00:12:07,518 You gotta let them fly at some point, bro. 268 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,302 All I know is, when my daughter turns 17, 269 00:12:09,303 --> 00:12:11,435 she's not shacking up with some 20-year-old dude named Dylan. 270 00:12:14,395 --> 00:12:17,180 She's dead? 271 00:12:17,181 --> 00:12:18,616 Oh. 272 00:12:18,617 --> 00:12:20,662 That's, like, surreal. 273 00:12:22,447 --> 00:12:23,447 Yeah. 274 00:12:23,448 --> 00:12:25,101 Uh, hey, hey, Dylan. 275 00:12:25,102 --> 00:12:26,493 Yeah? 276 00:12:26,494 --> 00:12:27,799 Are you planning on going somewhere? 277 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,932 I just got back from Paris. 278 00:12:29,933 --> 00:12:32,021 I was there for a magazine shoot. 279 00:12:32,022 --> 00:12:34,675 When's the last time you spoke to Kaitlyn? 280 00:12:34,676 --> 00:12:37,243 I texted her last night at 8:00 when I landed at JFK. 281 00:12:37,244 --> 00:12:38,984 Never heard back. 282 00:12:38,985 --> 00:12:40,464 Did that surprise you? 283 00:12:40,465 --> 00:12:42,466 We've been fighting a lot. 284 00:12:42,467 --> 00:12:44,686 About what? 285 00:12:46,384 --> 00:12:48,211 She was cheating on me. 286 00:12:48,212 --> 00:12:49,821 What makes you say that? 287 00:12:49,822 --> 00:12:51,605 She'd been acting all weird, spending a lot of time 288 00:12:51,606 --> 00:12:53,956 with other people. 289 00:12:53,957 --> 00:12:59,657 And she didn't wanna be, you know, intimate. 290 00:12:59,658 --> 00:13:01,660 Any idea who she was seeing? 291 00:13:06,796 --> 00:13:08,144 Can you show us her room? 292 00:13:16,936 --> 00:13:19,198 This her laptop? 293 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,679 You know the password? 294 00:13:32,082 --> 00:13:33,822 Two hours before the murder, she googled 295 00:13:33,823 --> 00:13:35,867 the address of Daisy's Donuts. 296 00:13:35,868 --> 00:13:37,521 Four blocks from the murder scene. 297 00:13:37,522 --> 00:13:38,696 Looks like they make a hell of a cruller, 298 00:13:38,697 --> 00:13:40,045 I'll give them that. 299 00:13:40,046 --> 00:13:42,395 Does anyone remember seeing Kaitlyn? 300 00:13:42,396 --> 00:13:44,223 - Nope. - Did they have cameras? 301 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:45,877 They weren't working. 302 00:13:45,878 --> 00:13:48,706 Manager just emailed me the credit card receipts. 303 00:13:48,707 --> 00:13:50,056 Is her boyfriend's name in there? 304 00:13:52,015 --> 00:13:54,538 I don't see it. 305 00:13:54,539 --> 00:13:55,757 This is interesting, though. 306 00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,634 Did you find something? 307 00:14:03,635 --> 00:14:04,940 Do you know who killed my daughter? 308 00:14:04,941 --> 00:14:06,506 We need to speak to your husband right now. 309 00:14:06,507 --> 00:14:08,204 - Is he here? - Yes, yes. Of course. 310 00:14:08,205 --> 00:14:09,597 Come in. He's... 311 00:14:12,992 --> 00:14:14,384 What's going on? 312 00:14:14,385 --> 00:14:16,473 - Do you guys have an update? - We do. 313 00:14:16,474 --> 00:14:18,605 We can talk about it down at the precinct. 314 00:14:18,606 --> 00:14:20,085 Now? 315 00:14:20,086 --> 00:14:21,434 Right now. 316 00:14:21,435 --> 00:14:23,697 It's a little late in the day. 317 00:14:23,698 --> 00:14:25,395 Couldn't we do this first thing in the morning? 318 00:14:25,396 --> 00:14:27,005 No, this can't wait. 319 00:14:27,006 --> 00:14:29,747 And we would prefer to do it in our office. 320 00:14:29,748 --> 00:14:32,576 So we need you to come with us. 321 00:14:32,577 --> 00:14:34,447 I don't understand. What's the problem? 322 00:14:34,448 --> 00:14:35,884 Am I under arrest? 323 00:14:35,885 --> 00:14:37,146 We're giving you an opportunity 324 00:14:37,147 --> 00:14:39,278 to come in voluntarily. 325 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:40,279 But if not... 326 00:14:44,154 --> 00:14:45,981 I guess so. 327 00:14:52,510 --> 00:14:55,207 We've got a credit card receipt that puts you 328 00:14:55,208 --> 00:14:57,557 in a café a few blocks from the crime scene 329 00:14:57,558 --> 00:14:59,951 a half hour before Kaitlyn was killed. 330 00:14:59,952 --> 00:15:02,432 And Kaitlyn just happened to google the address of that café 331 00:15:02,433 --> 00:15:04,216 a couple hours before she was killed. 332 00:15:04,217 --> 00:15:05,957 And we got surveillance video from a flower shop 333 00:15:05,958 --> 00:15:08,655 down the block that picked you up after you left the café. 334 00:15:08,656 --> 00:15:11,136 It shows a man who looks a lot like you 335 00:15:11,137 --> 00:15:12,964 grabbing Kaitlyn by the arm and pushing her 336 00:15:12,965 --> 00:15:14,444 in the direction of the crime scene. 337 00:15:14,445 --> 00:15:16,707 And you told us that you didn't talk to Kaitlyn 338 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:17,969 the day that she was murdered. 339 00:15:17,970 --> 00:15:20,145 - Isn't that right? - Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah. 340 00:15:20,146 --> 00:15:22,669 You lied about your alibi, too, didn't you? 341 00:15:22,670 --> 00:15:24,149 Said you were at a movie premiere? 342 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:25,803 No, I was... 343 00:15:25,804 --> 00:15:27,674 I was at the premiere. 344 00:15:27,675 --> 00:15:28,806 Really. 345 00:15:28,807 --> 00:15:30,590 Well, the time stamp on the bill here 346 00:15:30,591 --> 00:15:33,115 says that you paid six minutes after the movie started. 347 00:15:33,116 --> 00:15:34,768 - So help me out here. - Correct. 348 00:15:34,769 --> 00:15:36,988 I had coffee with my daughter, and then I went to the movie. 349 00:15:36,989 --> 00:15:39,426 - I got there late. - Hmm. 350 00:15:46,042 --> 00:15:49,479 Here's me and Michelle at the theater. 351 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,916 That corroborates my client's alibi. 352 00:15:51,917 --> 00:15:54,397 The theater is, like, 15 minutes from the crime scene. 353 00:15:54,398 --> 00:15:56,877 He could have killed Kaitlyn and gotten back to the theater 354 00:15:56,878 --> 00:15:58,140 before the movie was over. 355 00:15:58,141 --> 00:15:59,576 Still, I'm confused. 356 00:15:59,577 --> 00:16:01,491 Didn't the ME tell you the DNA on the murder weapon 357 00:16:01,492 --> 00:16:04,624 didn't come from anyone in Kaitlyn's family? 358 00:16:04,625 --> 00:16:08,019 The ME said that the killer's DNA profile 359 00:16:08,020 --> 00:16:12,241 didn't share any genetic similarities with the victim. 360 00:16:12,242 --> 00:16:14,112 He's not Kaitlyn's biological father? 361 00:16:14,113 --> 00:16:15,853 According to family court records, 362 00:16:15,854 --> 00:16:19,683 Ron adopted Kaitlyn after he married Michelle 363 00:16:19,684 --> 00:16:21,902 about ten years ago. 364 00:16:21,903 --> 00:16:24,514 Can I go home now? 365 00:16:24,515 --> 00:16:26,037 No. 366 00:16:26,038 --> 00:16:27,560 We have a few more questions. 367 00:16:27,561 --> 00:16:29,693 Hold him while you get a warrant for his DNA. 368 00:16:29,694 --> 00:16:32,044 If it matches the necktie, charge him with murder. 369 00:16:40,618 --> 00:16:43,054 Calling docket ending in 5912, 370 00:16:43,055 --> 00:16:45,100 People v. Ronald Lawson, 371 00:16:45,101 --> 00:16:48,103 charging murder in the second degree. 372 00:16:48,104 --> 00:16:49,191 How do you plead, sir? 373 00:16:49,192 --> 00:16:51,062 My client pleads not guilty. 374 00:16:51,063 --> 00:16:52,803 I'll hear the People on bail. 375 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:55,588 The victim in this case is the defendant's daughter. 376 00:16:55,589 --> 00:16:57,547 The evidence shows that Mr. Lawson 377 00:16:57,548 --> 00:17:01,551 pushed her into a dumpster, causing a severe head wound. 378 00:17:01,552 --> 00:17:03,944 Then, as she lay bleeding on the pavement, 379 00:17:03,945 --> 00:17:06,251 he strangled her with his necktie. 380 00:17:06,252 --> 00:17:09,298 We have video and credit card statement 381 00:17:09,299 --> 00:17:11,082 putting him near the crime scene. 382 00:17:11,083 --> 00:17:13,171 His DNA is on the weapon. 383 00:17:13,172 --> 00:17:15,739 We'd submit that he's a danger to the community 384 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:18,089 and a flight risk. People request remand. 385 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:20,744 The only thing worse than losing your child, Your Honor, 386 00:17:20,745 --> 00:17:24,313 is losing your child and then being falsely accused of killing her. 387 00:17:24,314 --> 00:17:27,838 The People have no case, no motive, no eyewitnesses. 388 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,971 My client is a respected member of his community. 389 00:17:30,972 --> 00:17:33,278 My client's wife, Michelle Burns, 390 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:34,888 who is also the victim's mother, 391 00:17:34,889 --> 00:17:37,891 has signed an affidavit affirming that 392 00:17:37,892 --> 00:17:40,546 they were at a movie premiere at the time of the murder. 393 00:17:40,547 --> 00:17:41,939 It was a three-hour film. 394 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:44,507 He had more than enough time to kill his daughter 395 00:17:44,508 --> 00:17:46,248 and saunter back into the theater 396 00:17:46,249 --> 00:17:48,294 to enjoy his wife's movie. 397 00:17:50,644 --> 00:17:52,820 The bail is set at 20 million. 398 00:17:55,780 --> 00:17:57,041 Don't worry, I got you. 399 00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:58,217 Okay? 400 00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:07,182 The victim's mother posted bail for the killer? 401 00:18:07,183 --> 00:18:08,835 It was a first for me as well. 402 00:18:08,836 --> 00:18:12,274 She also doubled down on her husband's so-called alibi. 403 00:18:12,275 --> 00:18:14,580 She obviously believes in Lawson's innocence. 404 00:18:14,581 --> 00:18:16,060 Are we sure we got the right guy? 405 00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:17,801 Yeah, evidence is strong. 406 00:18:17,802 --> 00:18:19,107 What about motive? 407 00:18:19,108 --> 00:18:20,630 Why would Lawson kill his own child? 408 00:18:20,631 --> 00:18:23,328 That is the one missing piece. 409 00:18:23,329 --> 00:18:25,417 Have we done a deep dive into their texts, emails? 410 00:18:25,418 --> 00:18:27,724 Well, I just finished, actually, 411 00:18:27,725 --> 00:18:29,552 and, uh, I think we have the answer. 412 00:18:29,553 --> 00:18:31,858 Kaitlyn made a video, was supposed to go live 413 00:18:31,859 --> 00:18:33,773 the day she was killed. 414 00:18:33,774 --> 00:18:35,035 It's horrific. 415 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,435 My father, Ron Lawson... 416 00:18:43,436 --> 00:18:45,829 sexually abused me. 417 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:50,834 It started when I was 14, and he's still doing it. 418 00:18:50,835 --> 00:18:53,489 I know it sounds weird, but, uh, 419 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:56,970 at first, it made me feel special. 420 00:18:56,971 --> 00:19:00,322 I actually thought I was in love with him. 421 00:19:00,323 --> 00:19:03,499 But recently, I... I started to realize 422 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:09,331 how horrible and abusive it actually is. 423 00:19:09,332 --> 00:19:10,985 So... 424 00:19:13,466 --> 00:19:16,207 I told him to stop. 425 00:19:16,208 --> 00:19:19,036 He wouldn't. 426 00:19:19,037 --> 00:19:22,344 So, um, I told my mother. 427 00:19:22,345 --> 00:19:26,784 But she wasn't... she wasn't able to help. 428 00:19:28,916 --> 00:19:34,225 That's why I'm making this video, 429 00:19:34,226 --> 00:19:37,576 to tell the world my truth. 430 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:39,752 The defendant killed Kaitlyn Lawson 431 00:19:39,753 --> 00:19:41,537 because he was afraid of exposure. 432 00:19:41,538 --> 00:19:43,800 He didn't want the world to know 433 00:19:43,801 --> 00:19:48,413 his disgusting, perverted secret. 434 00:19:48,414 --> 00:19:52,156 The evidence will show that he invited her to a café, 435 00:19:52,157 --> 00:19:54,550 where he tried to talk her out of posting the video. 436 00:19:54,551 --> 00:19:57,683 When she refused, he grabbed her by the arm 437 00:19:57,684 --> 00:19:59,729 and dragged her behind a flower shop. 438 00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:03,080 He shoved her face-first into a dumpster, 439 00:20:03,081 --> 00:20:08,955 and then he used his necktie to strangle the life out of her. 440 00:20:08,956 --> 00:20:13,569 Ron Lawson thought by killing Kaitlyn, 441 00:20:13,570 --> 00:20:16,834 his secret would be safe, but... 442 00:20:19,053 --> 00:20:23,361 But now we all know what Kaitlyn knew. 443 00:20:23,362 --> 00:20:25,581 The defendant is a pedophile. 444 00:20:25,582 --> 00:20:28,540 He is also a killer. 445 00:20:28,541 --> 00:20:33,763 And he must answer to that. 446 00:20:33,764 --> 00:20:36,026 We're going to take a brief recess. 447 00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:38,158 I'll see you all back here in 20 minutes. 448 00:20:50,911 --> 00:20:53,261 Get back! Get back! 449 00:20:53,262 --> 00:20:54,305 Stay... 450 00:20:54,306 --> 00:20:55,350 No, no, no, no! 451 00:20:55,351 --> 00:20:57,221 Back! 452 00:20:57,222 --> 00:20:59,049 Hey. Ron, put the gun down! 453 00:20:59,050 --> 00:21:01,181 Put it down! 454 00:21:01,182 --> 00:21:03,793 Do not do anything stupid. 455 00:21:03,794 --> 00:21:05,404 Put it down. 456 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:10,278 No, no, no! 457 00:21:24,423 --> 00:21:26,119 - That was... - Yeah. 458 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:27,599 I don't even know how to process it. 459 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,992 Everybody okay? 460 00:21:28,993 --> 00:21:32,169 I'm just glad no one else was hurt. 461 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,698 Where do we go from here? 462 00:21:39,699 --> 00:21:42,571 I presume you're gonna file a motion to dismiss the charges? 463 00:21:42,572 --> 00:21:44,007 Yeah, we'll have to. 464 00:21:44,008 --> 00:21:46,401 Well, bastard got off easy, if you ask me. 465 00:21:46,402 --> 00:21:48,141 Now nobody gets held accountable. 466 00:21:48,142 --> 00:21:52,102 Maybe we should look into the mother. 467 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:54,017 Well, unfortunately, posting bail 468 00:21:54,018 --> 00:21:55,671 for your abusive husband isn't a crime. 469 00:21:55,672 --> 00:21:57,150 She didn't just post bail. 470 00:21:57,151 --> 00:21:59,065 She was aware that her daughter was being abused, 471 00:21:59,066 --> 00:22:00,197 and she did nothing to protect her. 472 00:22:00,198 --> 00:22:01,807 She just let it happen. 473 00:22:01,808 --> 00:22:04,332 Hard to imagine. 474 00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:06,421 Is there a reason she just looked the other way? 475 00:22:06,422 --> 00:22:08,161 Oh, no idea. 476 00:22:08,162 --> 00:22:09,902 Makes no sense to me. 477 00:22:09,903 --> 00:22:14,646 Her movies are all about female empowerment and gender equality. 478 00:22:14,647 --> 00:22:15,865 So what do you wanna do? 479 00:22:15,866 --> 00:22:19,129 I wanna charge her with endangering the welfare of a child. 480 00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:21,131 Can we prove Michelle had knowledge of the abuse? 481 00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:22,741 We have Kaitlyn's video. 482 00:22:22,742 --> 00:22:25,004 Maybe. 483 00:22:25,005 --> 00:22:26,397 If we offer it for the truth, 484 00:22:26,398 --> 00:22:29,487 it'll likely be excluded as hearsay. 485 00:22:29,488 --> 00:22:31,055 But I'm with you, Nolan. 486 00:22:32,535 --> 00:22:35,014 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 487 00:22:35,015 --> 00:22:37,235 and she didn't, and now the girl's dead, so. 488 00:22:39,542 --> 00:22:40,977 Talk to Brady. 489 00:22:40,978 --> 00:22:42,892 Maybe she can figure out a way to get Michelle to admit 490 00:22:42,893 --> 00:22:44,154 she knew what was going on 491 00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:45,286 between her husband and Kaitlyn. 492 00:22:49,856 --> 00:22:51,030 - Michelle. - Oh. 493 00:22:51,031 --> 00:22:52,423 - Hi. - Hi. 494 00:22:52,424 --> 00:22:54,251 Thanks so much for coming in. 495 00:22:54,252 --> 00:22:56,862 Do you want a coffee or water or something? 496 00:22:56,863 --> 00:22:59,082 No. No, thank you. 497 00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:02,477 Well, I can't imagine what you're going through. 498 00:23:02,478 --> 00:23:04,696 Yeah, it's, uh... 499 00:23:04,697 --> 00:23:07,525 it's been a long few days. 500 00:23:07,526 --> 00:23:09,135 I'm really very sorry, but I won't 501 00:23:09,136 --> 00:23:10,528 take up much of your time. 502 00:23:10,529 --> 00:23:13,576 I just... I just need to tie up a few loose ends. 503 00:23:16,579 --> 00:23:17,580 Have a seat. 504 00:23:21,975 --> 00:23:25,543 Some of Kaitlyn's personal effects. 505 00:23:25,544 --> 00:23:30,069 I thought they might be of some sentimental value. 506 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:33,290 You can take them if you want. 507 00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:35,162 I just need you to sign that form. 508 00:23:41,473 --> 00:23:43,954 I have a lot of respect for your work. 509 00:23:45,477 --> 00:23:48,436 I think your movies are very powerful, 510 00:23:48,437 --> 00:23:50,873 and they remind me of Alice Munro. 511 00:23:50,874 --> 00:23:55,268 I know she's a novelist, but, um... 512 00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:57,446 I really admire her work as well. 513 00:24:00,318 --> 00:24:03,668 Yeah, you two have a lot in common. 514 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:07,019 I mean, you're both feminists that wanted to raise 515 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:10,240 strong, opinionated daughters, and... 516 00:24:10,241 --> 00:24:12,198 And both stayed with men 517 00:24:12,199 --> 00:24:14,463 even after we knew about their failings? 518 00:24:16,421 --> 00:24:19,336 Well, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 519 00:24:19,337 --> 00:24:20,599 I know. 520 00:24:23,254 --> 00:24:25,342 I'm not here to judge, Michelle, really. 521 00:24:25,343 --> 00:24:29,302 Honestly, I'm just trying to tie up some loose ends. 522 00:24:29,303 --> 00:24:31,740 But now that you mention it, actually, I'm... 523 00:24:31,741 --> 00:24:33,482 I must say, I'm curious. 524 00:24:36,093 --> 00:24:37,355 About what? 525 00:24:38,835 --> 00:24:43,186 Well, you're a brilliant and talented woman, 526 00:24:43,187 --> 00:24:45,971 a powerful woman. 527 00:24:45,972 --> 00:24:49,497 I... I... I just don't see how you could 528 00:24:49,498 --> 00:24:52,283 sit there and let that happen. 529 00:24:54,546 --> 00:24:58,462 I suppose I felt the same way Alice did. 530 00:24:58,463 --> 00:24:59,985 You know, I love them both very much, 531 00:24:59,986 --> 00:25:04,163 and I suppose I decided that it was their business, 532 00:25:04,164 --> 00:25:06,992 and it wasn't my place to get involved. 533 00:25:09,256 --> 00:25:10,692 Not your place? 534 00:25:10,693 --> 00:25:14,609 Well, I know on some level, yes. 535 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:17,394 I mean, if you eliminate patriarchal norms 536 00:25:17,395 --> 00:25:20,963 and expectations, why should I be expected to dismiss 537 00:25:20,964 --> 00:25:24,053 my own wants and desires, 538 00:25:24,054 --> 00:25:28,275 or even worse, dismiss those wants and desires for my child? 539 00:25:30,408 --> 00:25:33,671 So you knew about the video Kaitlyn made? 540 00:25:33,672 --> 00:25:36,195 Yes. 541 00:25:36,196 --> 00:25:38,937 And what about your husband? Did he know? 542 00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:41,026 Yes, I... I told him. 543 00:25:50,471 --> 00:25:51,471 Well. 544 00:25:53,779 --> 00:25:57,566 Michelle, I have to tell you, you make me sick. 545 00:25:59,437 --> 00:26:01,134 - What? - Get up. 546 00:26:02,658 --> 00:26:04,484 - What the hell are you doing? - Stand up. 547 00:26:04,485 --> 00:26:06,878 Put your hands behind your back. 548 00:26:08,011 --> 00:26:09,447 You're under arrest. 549 00:26:12,493 --> 00:26:14,582 She told her husband about the video? 550 00:26:14,583 --> 00:26:16,018 That Kaitlyn was planning to expose her? 551 00:26:16,019 --> 00:26:17,541 Sure did. 552 00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:19,282 She might as well have handed him a loaded gun. 553 00:26:19,283 --> 00:26:22,938 Ask me, this is more than child endangerment. 554 00:26:22,939 --> 00:26:25,070 You want me to charge her with manslaughter? 555 00:26:25,071 --> 00:26:26,419 Man two. 556 00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:28,683 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 557 00:26:28,684 --> 00:26:31,163 and her reckless actions and inactions 558 00:26:31,164 --> 00:26:33,514 directly led to her daughter's death. 559 00:26:37,693 --> 00:26:39,955 Sam. 560 00:26:39,956 --> 00:26:41,652 - Hi. - Hey, how are you? 561 00:26:41,653 --> 00:26:43,480 I'm good. 562 00:26:43,481 --> 00:26:45,351 You represent Michelle Burns? 563 00:26:45,352 --> 00:26:47,310 I wish I wasn't. 564 00:26:47,311 --> 00:26:49,921 I can't believe you're actually prosecuting her. 565 00:26:49,922 --> 00:26:51,140 She's a victim. 566 00:26:51,141 --> 00:26:52,663 Her daughter was murdered. 567 00:26:52,664 --> 00:26:54,273 Yeah, I get it. 568 00:26:54,274 --> 00:26:57,929 But she had a duty, a legal duty to protect her daughter. 569 00:26:57,930 --> 00:26:59,801 She didn't. So. 570 00:26:59,802 --> 00:27:01,541 Well, you may be right, 571 00:27:01,542 --> 00:27:04,066 but it's more complicated than that. 572 00:27:04,067 --> 00:27:06,068 What are you talking about? 573 00:27:06,069 --> 00:27:09,638 Kaitlyn wasn't the only woman Ron Lawson abused. 574 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:19,124 I'm requesting the court's permission to allow 575 00:27:19,125 --> 00:27:20,909 an expert witness at trial... 576 00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:24,173 a psychologist who can testify to my client's state of mind 577 00:27:24,174 --> 00:27:27,132 as a victim of physical and sexual abuse. 578 00:27:27,133 --> 00:27:29,134 How is that relevant to this case? 579 00:27:29,135 --> 00:27:30,483 Mr. Price has a point. 580 00:27:30,484 --> 00:27:32,007 What does a psychologist's opinion 581 00:27:32,008 --> 00:27:33,573 have to do with this matter? 582 00:27:33,574 --> 00:27:35,924 Well, the People are required to prove that my client 583 00:27:35,925 --> 00:27:37,708 ignored an unjustifiable risk 584 00:27:37,709 --> 00:27:39,623 that someone's death would occur. 585 00:27:39,624 --> 00:27:43,061 I'd like to tell the jury why she failed to act. 586 00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:44,672 Context is important. 587 00:27:44,673 --> 00:27:46,674 It cuts to the very core of our defense. 588 00:27:46,675 --> 00:27:50,068 The defendant's reasons have no legal significance. 589 00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:51,330 This is just a veiled attempt 590 00:27:51,331 --> 00:27:53,333 to elicit sympathy from the jury. 591 00:27:54,857 --> 00:27:57,336 I'll allow counsel to conduct a voir dire 592 00:27:57,337 --> 00:27:59,077 outside of the presence of the jury 593 00:27:59,078 --> 00:28:01,123 to see what this witness has to say. 594 00:28:01,124 --> 00:28:03,256 I'll issue my decision afterwards. 595 00:28:06,869 --> 00:28:11,046 Dr. Mankin, did you conduct a forensic evaluation 596 00:28:11,047 --> 00:28:13,265 - of the defendant? - I did. 597 00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:15,354 She reported that she was in a physically 598 00:28:15,355 --> 00:28:17,139 and emotionally abusive marriage. 599 00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:20,708 Did she describe specific instances of violence? 600 00:28:20,709 --> 00:28:24,624 A fractured eye socket, a broken ankle, a concussion, 601 00:28:24,625 --> 00:28:28,280 and numerous bruises and cuts. 602 00:28:28,281 --> 00:28:30,718 Did she tell you about her childhood? 603 00:28:30,719 --> 00:28:33,285 Do I have to sit here and listen to this? 604 00:28:33,286 --> 00:28:35,113 Your lawyer asked for this hearing. 605 00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:36,725 Please control your client. 606 00:28:40,293 --> 00:28:43,121 Please answer the question. 607 00:28:43,122 --> 00:28:44,862 When she was nine years old, 608 00:28:44,863 --> 00:28:46,995 Michelle was the victim of sexual abuse 609 00:28:46,996 --> 00:28:48,866 at the hands of an uncle. 610 00:28:48,867 --> 00:28:50,041 Did that surprise you? 611 00:28:50,042 --> 00:28:52,609 No. Children who are raised in abusive homes 612 00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:55,177 are six times more likely to find themselves 613 00:28:55,178 --> 00:28:57,745 in abusive relationships as adults. 614 00:28:57,746 --> 00:28:58,963 Why is that? 615 00:28:58,964 --> 00:29:00,748 For women like Michelle, 616 00:29:00,749 --> 00:29:04,491 abuse becomes their definition of love. 617 00:29:05,797 --> 00:29:06,797 Thank you. 618 00:29:06,798 --> 00:29:08,757 Nothing further. 619 00:29:10,323 --> 00:29:12,411 Cross-examination? 620 00:29:12,412 --> 00:29:14,762 Did the defendant ever report any of this abuse? 621 00:29:14,763 --> 00:29:16,807 When she was a child, she told her parents, 622 00:29:16,808 --> 00:29:19,810 but they didn't believe her, and that was shattering. 623 00:29:19,811 --> 00:29:22,421 It reinforced her sense of powerlessness. 624 00:29:22,422 --> 00:29:25,773 While the defendant may have been suffering, 625 00:29:25,774 --> 00:29:28,297 wasn't she still capable of protecting her daughter? 626 00:29:28,298 --> 00:29:31,953 I believe Michelle suffers from dissociative disorder. 627 00:29:31,954 --> 00:29:34,477 Her survival depends on her ability 628 00:29:34,478 --> 00:29:36,914 to disengage emotionally. 629 00:29:36,915 --> 00:29:40,483 As a result, she lost her ability to recognize danger, 630 00:29:40,484 --> 00:29:43,660 along with her maternal instincts of protection. 631 00:29:43,661 --> 00:29:46,141 You're not saying she's legally insane, are you? 632 00:29:46,142 --> 00:29:48,099 No, I'm not saying that. 633 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,971 Thank you. Nothing further. 634 00:29:49,972 --> 00:29:51,929 You are excused. 635 00:29:55,499 --> 00:30:00,459 While what Ms. Burns is alleging is tragic, 636 00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:04,028 it is clearly not relevant to this case. 637 00:30:04,029 --> 00:30:05,900 And as such, the law requires 638 00:30:05,901 --> 00:30:08,816 that you deny the defendant's motion. 639 00:30:08,817 --> 00:30:11,644 Respectfully, the defense has the right 640 00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:13,777 to present a full and complete picture 641 00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:16,127 of what happened... more specifically, 642 00:30:16,128 --> 00:30:17,782 why this happened. 643 00:30:20,132 --> 00:30:23,265 I agree with Mr. Price. 644 00:30:23,266 --> 00:30:26,311 But Your Honor, as a woman, how can you possibly... 645 00:30:26,312 --> 00:30:27,617 Don't go there, Counsel. 646 00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,837 My decision is based on the law. 647 00:30:29,838 --> 00:30:32,709 And I find that the defendant's state of mind 648 00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:35,712 has no legal significance in this case. 649 00:30:35,713 --> 00:30:38,671 Therefore, the defendant's motion is denied. 650 00:30:38,672 --> 00:30:42,980 Dr. Mankin will not be allowed in this trial. 651 00:30:42,981 --> 00:30:44,373 We're adjourned. 652 00:30:44,374 --> 00:30:45,983 I'll see you all here tomorrow morning. 653 00:30:52,338 --> 00:30:53,904 I'm not sure about this. 654 00:30:53,905 --> 00:30:55,514 Sure about what? 655 00:30:55,515 --> 00:30:59,518 Leaving this evidence out or even prosecuting Michelle. 656 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,956 She's a victim, Nolan. 657 00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:11,008 Hey. 658 00:31:11,009 --> 00:31:13,097 I've subpoenaed Michelle's medical records. 659 00:31:13,098 --> 00:31:15,360 They corroborate the psychologist's testimony. 660 00:31:15,361 --> 00:31:17,493 In the last ten years, Michelle was treated 661 00:31:17,494 --> 00:31:19,756 for a broken ankle, fractured eye socket, 662 00:31:19,757 --> 00:31:21,323 and a concussion. 663 00:31:21,324 --> 00:31:23,368 I also found a police report from Westport, Connecticut, 664 00:31:23,369 --> 00:31:26,197 where Michelle and Ron used to live. 665 00:31:26,198 --> 00:31:29,200 Shows she called 911 to report domestic violence. 666 00:31:29,201 --> 00:31:31,115 Withdrew her complaint a week later. 667 00:31:31,116 --> 00:31:33,944 Well, there was also a report from Cleveland, 668 00:31:33,945 --> 00:31:35,293 where Michelle grew up. 669 00:31:35,294 --> 00:31:37,513 Teacher suspected there was abuse in the home. 670 00:31:37,514 --> 00:31:40,037 I don't dispute that the abuse happened 671 00:31:40,038 --> 00:31:42,954 and that it's horrific. 672 00:31:45,522 --> 00:31:47,131 Jesus. 673 00:31:47,132 --> 00:31:49,960 It also certainly explains why Michelle would stay with a man 674 00:31:49,961 --> 00:31:51,527 who was abusing her daughter. 675 00:31:51,528 --> 00:31:53,181 Yeah. 676 00:31:53,182 --> 00:31:55,700 But the fact remains, Michelle Burns 677 00:31:55,701 --> 00:31:57,663 had an obligation to protect her kid, 678 00:31:57,664 --> 00:31:59,317 and she did the exact opposite. 679 00:31:59,318 --> 00:32:02,059 She wasn't capable of helping. 680 00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:04,105 She was fighting for her own survival. 681 00:32:04,106 --> 00:32:05,454 You're right about that, 682 00:32:05,455 --> 00:32:09,023 but she let her husband abuse Kaitlyn for years. 683 00:32:09,024 --> 00:32:10,981 And if that weren't enough, she told 684 00:32:10,982 --> 00:32:12,983 a violent, sexually abusive man that 685 00:32:12,984 --> 00:32:14,637 he was about to be exposed as a pedophile, 686 00:32:14,638 --> 00:32:17,466 which directly led to her child's death. 687 00:32:17,467 --> 00:32:21,557 She was more a perpetrator than victim in this instance anyway. 688 00:32:21,558 --> 00:32:24,560 What kind of precedent would it be setting 689 00:32:24,561 --> 00:32:26,518 if we gave her a pass? 690 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:28,999 Society demands that people in positions of power 691 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,522 protect those who have none. 692 00:32:30,523 --> 00:32:32,002 Parents are the ones who hold that power. 693 00:32:32,003 --> 00:32:33,699 Yeah, I agree. 694 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,832 But it doesn't mean that we don't have an obligation 695 00:32:35,833 --> 00:32:37,399 to protect Michelle too. 696 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,184 She's an adult. Kaitlyn was a kid, a teenager. 697 00:32:40,185 --> 00:32:42,447 In case of a tie, Michelle loses. 698 00:32:42,448 --> 00:32:44,754 Sorry. 699 00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:46,538 Move forward with the trial. 700 00:32:56,723 --> 00:32:59,334 Lieutenant Brady, did you speak with the defendant? 701 00:32:59,335 --> 00:33:01,205 I did. 702 00:33:01,206 --> 00:33:05,166 And she told me she was aware that her husband had been 703 00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:07,255 sexually abusing her daughter and that the abuse 704 00:33:07,256 --> 00:33:08,778 had gone on for several years. 705 00:33:08,779 --> 00:33:11,868 And did the defendant tell her husband that Kaitlyn 706 00:33:11,869 --> 00:33:14,392 - was going to expose him? - She did. 707 00:33:14,393 --> 00:33:17,352 And less than 24 hours later, Kaitlyn was dead. 708 00:33:17,353 --> 00:33:19,963 Thank you. Nothing further. 709 00:33:19,964 --> 00:33:21,444 Cross-examination? 710 00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:27,579 My client didn't kill anyone. 711 00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:28,667 Fair to say? 712 00:33:28,668 --> 00:33:31,018 Fair to say. 713 00:33:31,019 --> 00:33:34,630 In fact, my client wasn't present when Kaitlyn died, was she? 714 00:33:34,631 --> 00:33:36,197 Objection, relevance? 715 00:33:36,198 --> 00:33:38,374 Overruled. You may answer. 716 00:33:40,985 --> 00:33:42,638 I don't believe she was, no. 717 00:33:42,639 --> 00:33:45,597 The person who actually did kill Kaitlyn, 718 00:33:45,598 --> 00:33:47,121 Ron Lawson, shot himself. 719 00:33:47,122 --> 00:33:49,427 So he's gone. 720 00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:52,648 And now you and Mr. Price are trying to compound this tragedy 721 00:33:52,649 --> 00:33:54,215 by blaming it on his wife. 722 00:33:54,216 --> 00:33:55,520 Objection, argumentative. 723 00:33:55,521 --> 00:33:57,609 Withdrawn. 724 00:33:57,610 --> 00:33:58,655 Nothing further. 725 00:34:04,182 --> 00:34:06,662 I love my daughter very much. 726 00:34:07,968 --> 00:34:11,102 More than I can even... 727 00:34:17,282 --> 00:34:23,158 And I tried very hard to protect her. 728 00:34:25,334 --> 00:34:28,118 I know it wasn't enough, but I tried. 729 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,904 Tell the jury what you mean by that. 730 00:34:31,905 --> 00:34:38,085 I taught Kaitlyn to be a strong, independent woman. 731 00:34:38,086 --> 00:34:41,392 I took her to self-defense classes. 732 00:34:41,393 --> 00:34:45,048 I... I helped her become financially independent. 733 00:34:45,049 --> 00:34:49,271 I... I talked to her about her sex, about her body. 734 00:34:51,447 --> 00:34:55,885 And when I became aware of what 735 00:34:55,886 --> 00:35:02,413 was going on with Ron, I... 736 00:35:02,414 --> 00:35:07,766 I encouraged her to move out of the house as soon as possible. 737 00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:09,725 But you were having your own problems. 738 00:35:09,726 --> 00:35:10,943 Objection. 739 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:12,119 Sustained. 740 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,252 We've been through this, Ms. Hogan. 741 00:35:15,253 --> 00:35:17,646 Your witness. 742 00:35:17,647 --> 00:35:20,039 Cross-examination? 743 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,085 After your husband was arrested 744 00:35:22,086 --> 00:35:24,218 for killing your daughter, 745 00:35:24,219 --> 00:35:26,176 you posted his bail, didn't you? 746 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:31,703 - Yes. - He was in custody. 747 00:35:31,704 --> 00:35:34,490 He was behind bars. And you helped him get out? 748 00:35:36,883 --> 00:35:38,362 I did. 749 00:35:38,363 --> 00:35:43,715 You also helped him create a false alibi? 750 00:35:43,716 --> 00:35:45,413 Yes. 751 00:35:45,414 --> 00:35:50,809 I know that this won't make any sense, but I was afraid. 752 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:52,376 And so I did what he said 753 00:35:52,377 --> 00:35:53,769 because that's the way it's always been. 754 00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:55,945 Because if I disappointed him, he became violent! 755 00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:58,469 - Your Honor. - Next question. 756 00:35:58,470 --> 00:36:02,604 You have made several very successful films, haven't you? 757 00:36:02,605 --> 00:36:03,866 I suppose. 758 00:36:03,867 --> 00:36:06,216 One of your movies is about a young woman 759 00:36:06,217 --> 00:36:08,218 who was abused by a family member. 760 00:36:08,219 --> 00:36:10,046 Objection, relevance. 761 00:36:10,047 --> 00:36:11,221 Overruled. 762 00:36:11,222 --> 00:36:12,615 Please answer. 763 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,314 It was an exploration 764 00:36:17,315 --> 00:36:19,751 in a complicated family relationship. 765 00:36:19,752 --> 00:36:23,451 In that movie, the daughter is hurt so badly, 766 00:36:23,452 --> 00:36:25,148 she dies, doesn't she? 767 00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:27,368 Objection. Where is he going with this? 768 00:36:27,369 --> 00:36:29,674 The People are required to prove that the defendant 769 00:36:29,675 --> 00:36:32,286 consciously disregarded a substantial risk to her child, 770 00:36:32,287 --> 00:36:34,026 knowing that death could result. 771 00:36:34,027 --> 00:36:36,464 I'm simply trying to establish that the defendant was aware 772 00:36:36,465 --> 00:36:38,944 of the risk involved in not reporting her husband's abuse 773 00:36:38,945 --> 00:36:41,382 because she made a film about it. 774 00:36:41,383 --> 00:36:43,122 The objection is overruled. 775 00:36:43,123 --> 00:36:44,689 Please answer. 776 00:36:50,218 --> 00:36:52,828 In the film, the daughter dies. 777 00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:57,093 In your home, your husband's abuse of your daughter 778 00:36:57,094 --> 00:37:00,314 went on for years, didn't it? 779 00:37:00,315 --> 00:37:01,793 Unfortunately. 780 00:37:01,794 --> 00:37:03,621 And you told your husband that Kaitlyn 781 00:37:03,622 --> 00:37:05,493 was going to expose him, didn't you? 782 00:37:05,494 --> 00:37:06,711 Yes. 783 00:37:06,712 --> 00:37:09,714 And 24 hours later, she was dead. 784 00:37:09,715 --> 00:37:13,240 - Did I get that right? - I... 785 00:37:13,241 --> 00:37:15,243 I made a mistake. 786 00:37:17,723 --> 00:37:20,856 I made a mistake. 787 00:37:20,857 --> 00:37:25,339 I wish I could do it all over again, 788 00:37:25,340 --> 00:37:28,080 be a different person, a stronger person. 789 00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:29,691 But I wasn't, and I didn't. 790 00:37:29,692 --> 00:37:31,910 And I have to live with that for the rest of my life. 791 00:37:31,911 --> 00:37:34,043 I'm afraid you do. 792 00:37:34,044 --> 00:37:36,001 I have nothing further. 793 00:37:43,009 --> 00:37:46,360 Nolan. 794 00:37:46,361 --> 00:37:48,840 What you did in there, using her film 795 00:37:48,841 --> 00:37:49,928 against her in that way? 796 00:37:49,929 --> 00:37:51,060 That was fair game, Sam. 797 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,323 No, no, that was legal. 798 00:37:53,324 --> 00:37:55,978 But it wasn't fair. 799 00:37:55,979 --> 00:37:57,632 I... 800 00:37:57,633 --> 00:38:00,069 you're the one who always says trials are supposed 801 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:01,766 to be a search for the truth. 802 00:38:01,767 --> 00:38:04,726 So please tell me how the hell the jury is supposed to 803 00:38:04,727 --> 00:38:07,859 make a decision about Michelle, about this case 804 00:38:07,860 --> 00:38:10,340 when they don't have all the facts, 805 00:38:10,341 --> 00:38:12,777 when they don't actually know the truth. 806 00:38:12,778 --> 00:38:17,521 The jury decides what is and isn't true based on the facts, 807 00:38:17,522 --> 00:38:20,437 on the relevant facts. 808 00:38:20,438 --> 00:38:25,355 I respect that you are a man of principle, 809 00:38:25,356 --> 00:38:27,009 but I have my principles too. 810 00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:31,579 Well, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 811 00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:32,624 No. 812 00:38:37,368 --> 00:38:39,717 Do you really think that you know more 813 00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:43,939 about domestic violence than I do? 814 00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:47,377 I... I have counseled victims. 815 00:38:47,378 --> 00:38:49,336 I've volunteered at shelters. 816 00:38:49,337 --> 00:38:51,903 I studied the psychological impact of trauma. 817 00:38:51,904 --> 00:38:55,603 And there's my sister, who died at the hands of an abuser. 818 00:38:55,604 --> 00:38:59,389 So please don't tell me what Michelle should have done 819 00:38:59,390 --> 00:39:01,652 or what she was legally required to do. 820 00:39:01,653 --> 00:39:03,872 She spent most of her life being abused. 821 00:39:03,873 --> 00:39:06,570 And the truth is, Nolan, she wasn't 822 00:39:06,571 --> 00:39:09,443 capable of protecting herself, let alone her daughter. 823 00:39:09,444 --> 00:39:12,707 And there is no punishment in the world 824 00:39:12,708 --> 00:39:14,361 that is going to change that. 825 00:39:17,408 --> 00:39:19,409 Now, if you don't respect my opinion 826 00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:22,543 when it comes to this issue, 827 00:39:22,544 --> 00:39:26,024 then I don't know what the hell I'm doing in this office. 828 00:39:30,859 --> 00:39:32,338 What do you mean, you wanna cut a deal? 829 00:39:32,339 --> 00:39:33,687 We've been through this. 830 00:39:33,688 --> 00:39:38,213 We agreed Michelle Burns failed in her duty to protect her child. 831 00:39:38,214 --> 00:39:39,477 I'm having second thoughts. 832 00:39:42,001 --> 00:39:45,351 Sam has been pretty passionate in her defense 833 00:39:45,352 --> 00:39:48,136 of Michelle Burns, and... 834 00:39:48,137 --> 00:39:49,703 I'm starting to see her point of view. 835 00:39:49,704 --> 00:39:52,880 I'm not so sure that sending an abuse victim to prison 836 00:39:52,881 --> 00:39:55,622 for 15 years is the right call. 837 00:39:55,623 --> 00:39:57,624 Neither am I. 838 00:39:57,625 --> 00:40:00,061 But I have to look at the big picture. 839 00:40:00,062 --> 00:40:03,543 There are larger societal implications here. 840 00:40:03,544 --> 00:40:06,067 You're right. 841 00:40:06,068 --> 00:40:11,333 But let's face it, Nick, Sam knows more about these issues than we do. 842 00:40:11,334 --> 00:40:14,467 Maybe it's time for us to start listening to her, 843 00:40:14,468 --> 00:40:18,515 instead of telling her why she's wrong. 844 00:40:26,436 --> 00:40:28,916 Your Honor, the defendant has agreed to plead guilty, 845 00:40:28,917 --> 00:40:30,788 and we have a sentencing recommendation 846 00:40:30,789 --> 00:40:33,747 - for the court's consideration. - I'll hear it. 847 00:40:33,748 --> 00:40:35,575 The defendant will admit to so much 848 00:40:35,576 --> 00:40:37,577 of the complaint that alleges endangering 849 00:40:37,578 --> 00:40:39,013 the welfare of a child, 850 00:40:39,014 --> 00:40:41,320 and she will serve one year in jail, 851 00:40:41,321 --> 00:40:44,279 followed by three years of post-release supervision. 852 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,934 Defense? 853 00:40:48,241 --> 00:40:49,763 We have agreed to the terms. 854 00:40:49,764 --> 00:40:53,550 Okay, Ms. Burns, I will accept your change of plea 855 00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:56,335 and sentence you to one year in jail. 856 00:40:56,336 --> 00:40:57,945 Court is adjourned. 857 00:41:10,263 --> 00:41:14,309 Thank you for hearing me. 858 00:41:42,688 --> 00:41:47,688 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 62351

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