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- Oh, no!
- Get you on camera.
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- No.
- Get him on camera.
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This competition
thing is amazing--
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what it does to you,
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what you put your body through
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The way I train and what
I put my body through,
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I knew I was gonna break down.
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I mean, it was just
a matter of time.
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I dove all over the court.
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I knew I wasn't
gonna last long,
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so I tried to get
the most out of it.
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Wants it.
Won't go down.
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Rebound.
Akers kept it alive.
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Ooh, tough collision there
between...
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Larry knew
he was in trouble.
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But he did not want to leave
the tradition of the Celtics
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without having somebody with
an ability to take it over.
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Len Bias really on fire.
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I was very high on Bias.
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He thought that
he might have had that
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somewhere along the way.
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Alley-oop to Reggie.
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Yes!
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That's the beauty
of the Celtic organization.
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Paul Pierce.
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It was all about
preparation,
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the new guard taking over.
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Larry had been ready
to pass the torch
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but continued to play for Red
and the Boston Celtics.
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He doesn't regret it.
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He just knows what the impact
of doing that was.
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That's Larry.
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That's just Larry.
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So anyway, what else you got?
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The Boston Celtics
are the world champions.
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Oh, my,
this place is going crazy.
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Welcome to the 1986 NBA Draft.
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Speculation has it that this
will be one of the most
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Red Auerbach may
change things around.
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Logic indicates he will take
William Bedford, the center.
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But Red has always had an
affinity for Lenny Bias,
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who he's known
for a long time.
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34, Len Bias.
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Len Bias was a consensus
all-American from Maryland.
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He was a sure thing,
a can't-miss.
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With two minutes to go,
alley-oop.
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Bias with a dunk.
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Let me tell you
about Len Bias.
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I live in Washington.
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practice quite a bit.
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I knew him well.
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This young guy
is gonna be the bridge
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that sets up the next dynasty
for the Celtics.
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This is Bias.
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My husband flew to New York
with Len for the NBA Draft,
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and I was back home
with the kids.
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The Boston Celtics
select Len Bias,
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the University of Maryland.
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I saw the very moment
that it happened in real time.
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But it was unsettling
for me because
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though people kept
telling me congratulations,
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I never felt it.
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As you can see,
Lenny Bias made it.
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We know a lot of you have
some questions to ask him
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or to interview him.
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He's gonna be around awhile.
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I consider myself lucky
but more blessed,
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having the opportunity to play
here and be drafted here.
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Afterwards he called, and we
talked about what had gone on.
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It was just so much
excitement and all.
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We'll see you
when we get home.
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The next day, Len came home
and came over to the campus.
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So here is the dorm
of Washington Hall,
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where Len actually stayed.
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Crazy thing,
it still looks the same.
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Completely,
completely the same.
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We were just celebrating,
talking,
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I know we dapped each other up
and gave each other a hug.
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And I just said, man,
congratulations.
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I'm proud of you.
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Just left, you know?
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We thinking, hey,
see you tomorrow.
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Leonard Bias was brought
to us at 6:50 this morning.
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There was no cardiac function
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during the two hours
that he was here.
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And he was pronounced dead
at 8:50.
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It's something
that you'd never expect.
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He'd been through
a physical exam
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and just came out perfect.
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And now he's not here.
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It was so shocking.
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This amazing kid with this
world in front of him,
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That really hurt
Coach Auerbach.
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I was in his office
the morning.
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We just sat there for--
seemed like an hour,
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neither of us saying a word.
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He was just really exuberant
because he achieved his goal.
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He was a Celtic type kid
in every essence.
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It was kind of
a dark cloud over us
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after that time for a period.
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Just don't get--
you just don't shake off
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something like that real easy.
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You really don't.
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Now everybody's speculating,
how did he die?
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How could somebody
that healthy,
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somebody that young die?
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Leonard Bias died
of cocaine intoxication,
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which resulted in
the sudden onset of seizures
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and cardiac arrest.
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When you're gonna make
a draft choice like that
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and that investment
of that choice,
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you run some kind
of check on a guy?
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Well, a background
check on a guy,
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would you know that what
you see and what you feel?
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We didn't check Larry Bird.
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We knew what kind of guy
Larry Bird was.
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After he died,
it was all about cocaine.
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It's all about drugs.
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It's all about
regulating drugs.
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It's about drug laws.
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Now is the time to reach our
goal of a drug-free generation
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in the United States.
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Now all he is
is a device to pass laws.
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It's about telling kids,
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hey, you don't want to end up
like Lenny Bias
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because Len Bias
died doing cocaine.
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Just say no.
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Believe me, homeboy
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This is no lie
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Because if you use it,
you just might die
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Well, stop a moment
and think of Lenny Bias
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He wasn't even
a person anymore.
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He was a cautionary tale.
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We never got to see
what happened.
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And even to this day,
it's a huge what-if,
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not even for what he would
have done just as a player
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but what he would
have been to Boston.
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His legacy is what
could have been.
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There are men
and women that still
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approach me with tears
in their eyes about Len
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almost 40 years later.
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He never played
professional ball,
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but yet there's still
an interest in him.
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Why?
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Because of who he was.
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The Celtics just won
the world championship.
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That means they're
the best there is right now.
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Still, Bias' death means
the team is suddenly minus
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the first cornerstone
in what was supposed
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to be the next dynasty.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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tonight is a very special
evening.
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The members of the
1986 championship team
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will be presented with
their championship rings.
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All right.
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You want him?
You got him.
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Let's raise that flag,
get on with a great year.
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Help us out.
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The Boston Celtics
have won three
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NBA championships in six years.
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People are calling
Larry Bird the greatest
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player of all time.
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Used to be Bill Russell.
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Now Larry Bird
is pushing him pretty good.
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You mean to start
a franchise?
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- Yup.
- Are you serious?
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I'm serious.
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Bird for 3.
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Larry Bird for 3
with four seconds to go.
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Oh!
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You now join Bill Russell
and Wilt Chamberlain
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as the only players
to win the league's
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MVP award
three years in a row.
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It was obvious Larry
was the best player.
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You know, he was the man.
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There's no question
that I feel, next year,
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if I feel like I do right now,
I can win it again.
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together, as a team.
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Yes, we were definitely
the big dog in the house.
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Blocked by Robert Parish.
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On the court,
we had good chemistry.
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Robert opened up
a lot of things for us.
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Watch Parish run the court.
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I played against
a lot of great players
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around the league at that time,
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and I'm telling you, I wouldn't
trade him for any of them.
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McHale makes a move.
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low-post player
I ever played against,
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Kareem at the top.
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McHale got it!
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McHale on the back end.
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Scoop shot is good.
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Unlimited moves
and creativity.
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brings it up and dishes
to McHale, who slams it.
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I thought, boy,
we stay healthy,
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we're gonna make a run here
for another 2, 3.
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I developed a stress
fracture in my foot.
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So now everybody else
has to play more.
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And then that took an
untenable toll on all of them.
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McHale is hobbling.
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He is so, so important.
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My foot's killing me.
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But I kept playing.
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And I was thinking, well,
you know, just suck it up.
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You got something going on in
there, but it's nothing major.
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But in the playoffs,
the doctor
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started holding my toes,
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and he would move my foot
around, and all of a sudden,
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he goes, yeah, you got
a fracture in your navicular.
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And I thought, I got
a couple more rounds to go.
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I think I can play.
I think I can manage.
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Kevin McHale,
the coal miner's son
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from Hibbing, Minnesota.
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real hard for everything
they got.
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And I think Kevin knew that.
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My father worked
in the mines.
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McHale blocks it away
from Pierce.
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He just thought
he had a job to do.
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And...
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To McHale.
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And I figured that 80% of me
was maybe better than 100%
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of the guy that was gonna
come in and play for me.
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Lucas pushes the floor,
comes inside.
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Picked up by Lucas.
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And that's it.
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Boston wins it,
138-137 in double overtime.
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Kevin McHale,
today he went 55-plus minutes.
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The Celtics have won
another seventh game at home.
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And now for the Celtics,
the Detroit Pistons are next.
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Everyone expects
to battle the Celtics
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all the way in the
Eastern Conference Final.
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Kevin, when did you
get out of the hospital?
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What are you talking about?
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I'm talking about your foot.
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Nah, it's fine.
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feels great.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa,
wait a second.
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Whose X-ray is this, then, huh?
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Is that not yours?
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I don't know.
Let me take a look at it.
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It says adult male gorilla.
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That's not me.
Could be Laimbeer, huh?
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Bill Laimbeer.
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Laimbeer, mm.
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Why is it that everybody
hates Bill Laimbeer?
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You'd have to go home
and ask his wife, I think.
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Well, I don't want
to talk about Bill Laimbeer.
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It's my style of play
that antagonizes people.
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I don't give anybody
any respect.
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He deliberately tried
to injure you
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and took pride in it.
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He wore that bad-boy image
that they created
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like a badge of honor.
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He reveled in it.
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The Detroit Pistons
have become
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the bad boys of basketball.
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Sometimes that bad-boy
image gets us into trouble.
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Isiah Thomas picks up
his fourth personal foul,
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and Parish is hurting.
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As much as we disliked
the Lakers,
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we disliked Detroit even more.
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Most of the trouble they
got into, Isiah started it.
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Isiah is really
talking to Sichting.
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He was an agitator.
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He seemed almost like a 6'1"
version of Magic Johnson.
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Isiah with one
nice bounce pass.
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There's that great smile
of Isiah Thomas.
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He started to sort of
understand
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that the way
the Pistons played
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was almost sort of kind of
under his direction,
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like as if he was some kind of,
like, crime boss or whatever
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and these were his henchmen.
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From the Boston Garden,
the Eastern Conference
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Championship Series
with the defending
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And for the first time in
the history of the franchise,
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the Detroit Pistons
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in a conference
championship series.
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With the Pistons,
they knew who they were
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and who they were
going to become.
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There was no fear
of the Celtics.
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We're still
the guy climbing.
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They've been there.
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They're pretty much
on the mountaintop.
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You know, Detroit better
figure out an early vacation.
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I read it.
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It had been proven
through the NBA,
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there's a little bit
of a rite of passage.
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The Celtics are always
trying to beat the Sixers.
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Now the Pistons were coming
for the Celtics.
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And the Celtics
had their hands full.
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Go off the glass.
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Laimbeer, though, the follow,
and Robert Parish just
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picked up a technical foul.
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Laimbeer just pushed him
from one side of the basket
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all the way under and no call.
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Never had a lot of respect
for the Pistons.
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It's sad you had
to play that way.
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I mean, we're all out there
trying to make a living
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and do our best.
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And they were trying
to maim you most of the time.
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97-81 Pistons.
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And the 24-second clock
goes down,
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I don't remember
Larry Bird getting
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as angry as I saw him there.
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That was a violent,
violent knockdown
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by Laimbeer,
the yellow, gutless way
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they do things here,
where they have
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been called a dirty ball club.
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This is a typical--
a typical disgusting display.
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Now Rodman goes after Bird
after Bird threw the ball.
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And he said, I was just trying
to hand the ball
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back to the ref, and Laimbeer's
face got in the way.
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Larry Bird and Bill Laimbeer
have both
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I said, Birdie, I don't mind
Laimbeer getting thrown out,
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but you can't get thrown out
with him because that--
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that's not a fair exchange.
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It's like, Larry Bird,
Bill Laimbeer.
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I said, you know,
if you took Isiah
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of a equal exchange.
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I think the Pistons
are in a lot of trouble,
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Larry Bird is gonna make
Isiah Thomas and Laimbeer
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go home crying tonight.
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Bill Laimbeer went up and
offered a hand to Larry Bird,
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Posted.
Laimbeer blocks it.
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right off the rebound.
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He elbowed me in the throat.
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Two plays later,
I catch one in the chest.
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I was like, Bill,
watch your elbows.
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So he called me an MF
and told me to go eff off.
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And that did it.
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- He nailed him.
- Parish nailed Laimbeer.
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And Laimbeer is down,
and he is hurt.
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He nailed him.
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Bill Laimbeer
got a little rambunctious,
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and Parish said,
no, you don't.
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And it looked like Laimbeer
hit him with an elbow.
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And he just let him have it.
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No foul was called
on the play.
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People are sick and tired
of this guy
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with the baby face
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with putting his hands up
all the time.
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Meanwhile, he'll--
he'll sucker punch you.
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He'll do everything
in the game.
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It couldn't happen
to a nicer guy.
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Now we got trouble.
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One-point ball game,
27 seconds remaining.
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All right, it's 107-106,
but there are 17 seconds left.
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Boston down one.
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It comes to Dennis Johnson.
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Dumars has got him.
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DJ, left side Bird.
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00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,900
Nobody home.
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00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:03,950
Rodman the block.
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Out-of-bounds.
Who's got it?
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Detroit ball
with five seconds to go.
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They're gonna beat the Celtics
at Boston Garden
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in a playoff game.
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And you got one
of the smartest guys
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in the league, which Isiah
was, taking the ball out.
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00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,890
And now there's
a steal by Bird.
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00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:29,470
Underneath to DJ.
Lays it in.
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00:20:29,470 --> 00:20:31,140
What a play by Bird.
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00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:34,230
Bird stole
the inbounding pass.
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00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:38,150
DJ laid it up and in.
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00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:42,240
Oh, my, this place
is going crazy.
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One way or another,
Bird kills you.
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The place goes
absolutely bananas
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00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,920
Havlicek stole the ball.
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00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,380
Havlicek steals it!
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00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:06,970
Henderson stole the ball.
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00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:11,060
Bird stole the ball.
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Now there's a steal by Bird.
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The leprechaun has popped out
from down the rafters again,
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00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:24,360
Like, people believed this crap
because it kept happening.
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00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,200
I seen Laimbeer
standing there by himself,
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00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,910
and all I did was run over
there to try to foul him
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00:21:30,910 --> 00:21:32,740
and got my hand in there
and stole it.
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00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:35,540
And just as I got it, I seen
a white jersey streaking
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down towards the basket.
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00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:39,540
And I turned, and it
was DJ, of course.
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Bird on the cut to DJ.
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Johnson, layup Boston.
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00:21:43,090 --> 00:21:45,340
I remember
how DJ instinctively
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went to the basket.
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00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:48,340
Normally when something
like that happens,
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everybody freezes.
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But for whatever reason,
DJ didn't, because had he not
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cut to the basket,
we would be talking about
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00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,190
a different story now.
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00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:13,240
while we're out there, he can
find me and I can find him
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in any types of situations.
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He would tell me
at the end of games,
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00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:22,500
don't give anybody
the ball but me.
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00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,750
And he says,
I'll do the same for you.
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00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,300
It's not that we was trying
to edge them other players out.
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00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:28,760
He didn't trust them.
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00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:33,180
And Detroit's
valiant effort comes up
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00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:37,600
a point short on a critical
inbounds mistake.
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00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:44,940
No, I can't.
400
00:22:51,910 --> 00:22:54,910
Danny Ainge, 3-pointer.
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00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:58,370
Larry Bird has played
the entire game.
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00:22:58,370 --> 00:23:00,250
The Celtics,
as they always do,
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00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:04,340
find a way to win
down the stretch at home.
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00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:08,880
The Boston Celtics
will go to the finals again
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00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:19,140
After the game, I remember
I hit both locker rooms.
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00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:21,480
And then I hurried back
to start writing,
407
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,690
and a couple of other writers,
friends of mine, came and said,
408
00:23:24,690 --> 00:23:26,320
you better get back in there.
409
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,320
Isiah and Dennis
just said something stupid.
410
00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:08,900
I remember walking
into the Celtics room
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00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:11,030
and hearing Larry Bird,
and he goes,
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00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:13,320
well, I don't apologize
for being white.
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00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,240
And that's when it
clicked into me.
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00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Oh, man, the shit
is gonna hit the fan here.
415
00:24:19,790 --> 00:24:22,960
I say it sarcastically,
416
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,500
if Bird was Black,
he'd be just another good guy.
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00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:29,630
And I started laughing.
418
00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:32,800
Isiah had called me
and said, I was joking.
419
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,090
I was joking.
We have the tape.
420
00:24:34,090 --> 00:24:36,840
And I said, I don't think
people believe you were joking.
421
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:39,430
I cringed
when that happened.
422
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:41,060
And I said, oh, God,
you just can't say that.
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00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:42,350
You cannot say that.
424
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:43,640
You just can't say it.
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00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,520
You got to remember,
still, 99% of the fans
426
00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:49,980
They don't want to hear that.
427
00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:52,230
This had been
rolling for a week.
428
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200
And in hindsight,
it just felt like we were
429
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,990
so ill-equipped to have
an intelligent discussion
430
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:59,450
about race.
431
00:24:59,450 --> 00:25:01,450
Following Larry's statements,
he's gonna take off.
432
00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:09,590
and they call this
absurd press conference.
433
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:11,090
To this--unprecedented.
434
00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:14,340
Isiah Thomas flies to LA,
and Larry's already there.
435
00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:17,930
It was crazy.
436
00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:22,260
Isiah was in his hotel room
before the press conference.
437
00:25:22,270 --> 00:25:25,430
I'll never forget.
He had a roll of Rolaids.
438
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,310
And he was biting
the Rolaids off the roll
439
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:31,070
without unwrapping the paper.
440
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:32,820
And I thought, wow.
441
00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:34,400
I mean, he grew up
on the West Side of Chicago
442
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,530
in a tough neighborhood.
443
00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,490
It was--he had seen
a lot and done a lot,
444
00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:40,450
and I think he was terrified.
445
00:25:40,450 --> 00:25:43,040
Jokingly, I say it.
446
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,700
But I have to agree
with Rodman, smiling,
447
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:48,790
laughing that if Bird was
448
00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:51,590
Black, he'd be
just another good guy.
449
00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:57,420
And from that,
shit, we got this.
450
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:59,890
If Isiah tells me
that it was a joking matter,
451
00:25:59,890 --> 00:26:02,220
I think it--we should
leave it at that
452
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:04,680
because I don't think
Isiah is stupid.
453
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,520
He knows I'm a bad player.
454
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:10,350
Now, here's the beauty
of it.
455
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:13,690
Larry, you had my career right
in the palm of your hands.
456
00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:15,360
Larry did us a huge solid.
457
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,780
Do you understand that moment
that he's talking about
458
00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:19,240
- that you had?
- Yeah.
459
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,450
Come on, Reggie.
460
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:23,490
We've been in them locker rooms
taking tough losses.
461
00:26:23,490 --> 00:26:25,620
You know, competition
sometimes brings the best
462
00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:26,700
out of you and the worst.
463
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:28,000
Mm-hmm.
464
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,460
Isiah was a great
basketball player.
465
00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:32,000
He had a big career
ahead of him.
466
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,630
I wasn't gonna damage
his career by saying
467
00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:34,840
something I didn't mean.
468
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,920
He didn't need that
in his life.
469
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,090
I didn't need it.
470
00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:38,260
I was getting ready
to go in the finals.
471
00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:40,010
I'm doing a press conference,
a packed place,
472
00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:43,100
and they're trying to push
this thing to another level.
473
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,260
You know, get out of here.
474
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:45,930
Because if it meant something,
I would have said it.
475
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:47,770
But it meant nothing to me.
476
00:26:47,770 --> 00:26:50,770
My motivation for the comment
was simply joking.
477
00:26:50,770 --> 00:26:54,480
The controversy
is that Isiah said
478
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,780
that Larry Bird,
if he was Black,
479
00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:04,160
Larry definitely works hard
to get where he's at.
480
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,740
I mean, if he didn't work,
he wouldn't be a great player.
481
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,540
I worked hard, too,
to get where I got,
482
00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:09,750
or I wouldn't be here.
483
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:12,000
I wouldn't be as good
as I am
484
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,880
if I didn't practice
my butt off.
485
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,340
If Larry Bird
were a Black player,
486
00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,260
he'd be just another guy.
487
00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:20,670
That's not just
a basketball comment.
488
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,300
That is a comment
about opportunities.
489
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,140
That's a comment
about exposure.
490
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:35,110
For Larry, he didn't
accept the reality of it.
491
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:39,530
The racial dichotomy
existed in the audience
492
00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:41,400
but not in the person.
493
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,530
I'm very proud of the fact
that I'm a basketball player.
494
00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:46,160
I worked very hard to become
a good basketball player.
495
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,120
I'm very proud of the fact
that I'm able to compete,
496
00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:53,710
You know?
497
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,880
But I'm just--
498
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,460
I tell you, you was fast
as shit the other night
499
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:03,180
in game five
when you stole the ball.
500
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:05,390
Yeah, I forgot to thank you
for that too, Isiah.
501
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,270
It just shows how little
people understood
502
00:28:10,270 --> 00:28:13,690
the full context of what
they said and took it out
503
00:28:13,690 --> 00:28:15,150
and blew it up into something.
504
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:17,270
If they fully understood
what was going on there,
505
00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:21,530
then they would have had the
same reaction that Larry had.
506
00:28:21,530 --> 00:28:23,530
Yeah, and?
507
00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:24,660
OK.
508
00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:26,910
Can we get past this shit
and get back to basketball?
509
00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:28,740
I don't think
we should have to sit here
510
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:30,540
and talk about it all day.
511
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:31,950
So I'm leaving.
512
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,160
So...
513
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:36,670
You're trying
to reconcile an event
514
00:28:36,670 --> 00:28:39,590
that seems defined by race.
515
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:42,300
You think this guy is great,
but his greatness
516
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:44,050
contradicts what we think
a great player
517
00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:45,260
is supposed to look like.
518
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:47,300
You already know
what they did for me.
519
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,100
- What?
- I walked away with the MVP.
520
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520
who was in any way
sort of used by the culture,
521
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,850
but I suppose maybe he was.
522
00:28:56,860 --> 00:29:01,360
We'll never know what the '80s
in the NBA are like
523
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,740
if, you know,
it's Magic Johnson
524
00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:05,740
and another Black player.
525
00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:08,370
I heard Converse made
a pair of Bird shoes
526
00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:09,950
for last year's MVP.
527
00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:10,950
Yup.
528
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:12,040
Well, they made
a pair of Magic shoes
529
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,620
for this year's MVP.
530
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,910
OK, Magic,
show me what you got.
531
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,210
The Lakers and the Celtics
back in the NBA Finals.
532
00:29:21,210 --> 00:29:23,720
Right now, this is
a no-contest affair.
533
00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:30,720
The Lakers and a big one.
534
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560
126-113.
535
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,730
They just had a bit more
firepower than we had.
536
00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:42,900
Kevin McHale, who has been
playing with a fractured foot
537
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,650
throughout much
of the playoffs,
538
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:47,820
has learned that perhaps the
injury is growing even worse.
539
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,540
and I'm gonna go
out there and play.
540
00:29:56,540 --> 00:29:59,540
It hurt.
I mean, it hurt.
541
00:29:59,540 --> 00:30:03,090
But to have four championships
would have been well worth it.
542
00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:04,710
I'd do it again.
543
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:08,180
I just don't know
how this man is playing.
544
00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:10,720
I told him
it's not worth it.
545
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,260
He should not play.
546
00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:13,560
McHale is shaken up.
547
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,060
I think he actually
made it worse.
548
00:30:20,060 --> 00:30:21,480
He never was the same.
549
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,820
Even when it healed,
he never was the same guy.
550
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:29,320
But you know what?
551
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Sorry, Kevin.
552
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,330
This is really not your
typical LA-Boston matchup,
553
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:38,000
because for the first time,
we have a clear-cut favorite,
554
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
and that's the Lakers.
555
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,830
Do you admit
they're the better team?
556
00:30:40,830 --> 00:30:42,710
First two games,
they were, yeah.
557
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:48,760
McHale, offensive rebound.
558
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,390
Boston wins 109-103.
559
00:30:52,390 --> 00:30:55,350
But now the series
reads two games to one
560
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:58,730
in favor of the Lakers.
561
00:30:58,730 --> 00:31:00,940
Wipe 'em up, Boston!
562
00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:02,690
I mean, what's better
than this one?
563
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:05,690
I mean, just a classic.
564
00:31:05,690 --> 00:31:08,070
You have to understand,
outside of the Boston Garden,
565
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:11,030
they have a kiosk
where they have all the
566
00:31:11,030 --> 00:31:15,120
"I hate effing LA,"
you know?
567
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,870
'87 finals,
the Lakers were awesome.
568
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:20,910
We win game three,
and then game four is the game.
569
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,080
But we had Bird.
570
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,080
I was confident.
571
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,460
I believe this guy
can do anything.
572
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:26,210
This was John Wick.
573
00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:28,460
It was like, I--
I don't care who we're playing.
574
00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:30,220
We have Larry Bird.
We're winning.
575
00:31:30,220 --> 00:31:32,260
Cooper with a move
around Bird.
576
00:31:32,260 --> 00:31:33,930
Bird blocks the shot.
577
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:36,390
Great play by Bird.
578
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,060
McHale.
579
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:42,270
Celtics win.
580
00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:43,560
It's a new series.
581
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,810
Bird.
582
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:49,360
We're up 6
with two minutes left.
583
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,650
They're coming back, and Cooper
is right in front of us.
584
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:55,370
Magic sees him,
and Cooper splits off.
585
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:57,040
And you knew
it was gonna go in.
586
00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:00,950
And all of a sudden...
587
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,290