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It's busy on the streets
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as you make your way home
to your loved ones
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but let me get you in the moody
smooth with Philadelphia's own,
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Mr. Teddy Pendergrass.
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♪ Close the door ♪
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♪ Let me give you
what you've been waiting for ♪
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♪ Baby,
I got so much love to give ♪
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♪ And I wanna
give it all to you ♪
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♪ Do-do-do do-do ♪
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♪ Close the door ♪
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♪ No need to worry no more ♪
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♪ Let's bring this day
to a pleasant end ♪
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♪ Girl, it's me and you now ♪
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♪ I've waited all day long ♪
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♪ Just to hold you gently
in my loving arms ♪
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♪ And it's exactly
like I thought it would be ♪
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♪ Me loving you
and you loving me ♪
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♪ Loving me ♪
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♪ Love ♪
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♪ Close the door, baby... ♪
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♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
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♪ You will
never, never, never know me ♪
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♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
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♪ All the things
that we've been through ♪
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♪ You should understand me ♪
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♪ Like I understand you ♪
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♪ Now, baby,
I know the difference ♪
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♪ Between right and wrong ♪
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♪ I ain't gonna do nothing ♪
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♪ To upset our happy home ♪
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♪ Oh ♪
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♪ Oh, don't get so excited ♪
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♪ When I come home
a little late at night ♪
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♪ 'Cause we only act
like children ♪
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♪ When we argue,
fuss and fight ♪
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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
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You were talking
about Philadelphia, where you
came from.
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Oh, my God. Filthydelphia,
that's we call it.
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But I love it.
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When you go back now
as superstars in your world.
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I'm serious. Anybody that has
as many hit records as you have.
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How are the cats on the corner,
the neighborhood?
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Now that's a trip.
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There's different cats now
in the neighborhood.
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When I was growing up,
I used to run the neighborhood.
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I was the biggest jitterbug.
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Now you got guys just 16, 17.
They don't care about me.
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You know, I say, "I used to run
this neighborhood."
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- They say, "You used to."
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I cannot move my mother
out of the ghetto.
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I try and I say,
"Mamma, move." "No. Mm-mm."
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I became pregnant,
and I lost it
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and then again
and again and again.
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And every time I became
pregnant, I would lose it.
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Until I become
pregnant with Teddy.
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He was the seventh
but he was the first birth.
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My husband walked away.
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And I was left
to raise a son all by myself.
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What I'd like to do is
start from the very beginning
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and just kind of talk
from childhood,
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just kinda go through
my life, you know.
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The Mighty Mother Fuckers.
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And these guys were terrorists.
If they couldn't get you,
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they would come to your house
and get your family.
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It was a tough neighborhood.
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You either had to be
predator or prey.
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It was tough going to schools.
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It was just tough
trying to be...
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on the right side of things.
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♪ Do you wanna party,
do you wanna dance? ♪
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Teddy had the bottom mouth,
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talked a lot of trash.
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He said,
"I'm gonna be famous one day
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and I'm gonna hire you
as my bodyguard."
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I looked at him.
"Get away from me! Shut up!
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Been watching too many movies!"
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♪ Feel like a bird in the air ♪
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♪ Come on, get up ♪
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♪ Get up, get down,
get funky, get loose ♪
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Teddy Pendergrass,
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one of the most popular singers
in all of pop music.
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He doesn't like labels like
soul or R&B or rock 'n' roll
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but the one label that's
undeniable is that of superstar.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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You were ordained
at the age of ten.
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- Yes.
- Are you still a minister?
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Uh, in some ways,
I am still spreading the word.
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♪ Come by here ♪
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♪ O Lord ♪
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♪ Come by here ♪
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In church, in black
churches,
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the major thing
is being able to stand up
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in front of a group of people
and move them.
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I mean, so much so
until they feel the spirit,
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as the spirit is
to whatever your belief is.
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And that training,
and that experience,
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I accredit it
to what I'm doing today.
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♪ It was nothing but the blood ♪
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♪ Of Jesus ♪
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- ♪ Hallelujah! ♪
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First time they called
that little baby boy to sing,
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we were sitting on our pew.
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I got up and stood him
on a chair
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because he was so little.
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Everybody could see him
and he started singing
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"If I Could Write
A Letter To Heaven."
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And he couldn't hear my voice.
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He stopped, and looked up at me
and he said,
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"Sing, Mother, sing,"
and then he kept on singing.
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When he finished, the applause.
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You have no idea how I felt.
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The joy, to see my baby.
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Ooh!
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The New Testament says repent.
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It is time
for America to repent now.
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The promises
of the great society
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have been shot down
on the battlefields of Vietnam.
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We were taking
the black young men
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who had been crippled
by society.
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Sending them 8,000 miles away,
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to guarantee liberties
in Southeast Asia
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which they had not found
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in Southwest Georgia
and East Harlem.
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♪ My heart is crying, crying ♪
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♪ The lonely teardrops ♪
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♪ My pillow's never dry
of lonely teardrops ♪
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♪ Just give me another chance ♪
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Jackie Wilson had such
a command of the audience
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and get people to do things,
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women throwing underwear up
on stage and those type things.
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And that fascinated him.
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Years later,
he's getting the same thing.
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I mean, people would throw all
types of things on the stage.
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♪ Say that you... ♪
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We used to just sneak
inside the Uptown Theater
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and we'd just watch everybody.
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- ♪ Shoo doo, shoo doo-wop ♪
- Teddy and me,
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and we started out
singing on a corner.
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We were doing
high school together
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and that's when we got put out.
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They moved us out of school
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'cause we was cutting class
and singing and drinking wine
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and our parents
didn't know that.
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The most important thing
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about any particular city
that has music talent,
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it really
just boils down to community.
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Philadelphia
is one of those towns
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in which people stick together,
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so a lot of song writers,
a lot of musicians,
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um, kinda work with each other
and network with each other,
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and collaborate with each other.
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That's what makes
Philadelphia special.
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This gentleman is Kenny Gamble.
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Over here is Leon Huff
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and the gentleman in the middle
is Joe Tarsier.
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This is perhaps the happiest
triumvirate you'll ever meet.
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The recordings these guys
have made together
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are played on every radio
and television station
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in the world.
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That famous Philadelphia sound
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could not have reached the
level of prominence it enjoys
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without the mighty Blue Notes.
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Harold Melvin was a genius.
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He probably could take me and
Huff, make us the Blue Notes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
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Harold Melvin
was the person who found Teddy.
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Huff called me up and said,
"Man, you gotta hear this guy."
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Teddy's voice rang out
over all the background.
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It just stuck out.
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Tried him on a song,
"I Miss You." And um...
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I said, "Gamble, this guy,
he sounds great," you know.
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I was really high on him.
Really excited about him.
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"I Miss You",
that was our first record
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and we got in the studio
and started like doing...
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You know.
"That's it! That's it!"
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♪ Ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Oh, oh ♪
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- ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
- ♪ Oh ♪
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♪ I miss you, baby ♪
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Not only was he good-looking
but he had a presence
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and uh... and uh...
he had a special voice.
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♪ Ah ♪
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♪ 'Cause ever since
the day you left ♪
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♪ I don't know
what to do with myself ♪
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♪ Oh, I wish for your return ♪
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- ♪ And, oh, how I yearn ♪
- ♪ How I yearn ♪
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- ♪ 'Cause I ♪
- ♪ Oh, I ♪
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♪ Oh, I ♪
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That was our first tune.
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He came out with,
"Ladies and gentlemen,
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'I Miss You' from Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes,"
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and everybody was like,
"What the hell is going on?"
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It's the Blue Notes.
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But Harold,
he put his name on the front,
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without us knowing it.
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With guest stars
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Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes.
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Harold told Gamble and Huff
it was all right with the guys.
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You know, he lied to Gamble.
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Harold wanted to have
his identity a bit more
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because Teddy
was so dominating
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that people thought that he was
the leader of the group
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and Harold
was the leader of the group.
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We said let's rename it Harold
Melvin and the Blue Notes.
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But at that particular time
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we were so happy
to be out there,
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we didn't know
later on down the line
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it was gonna bite us
in the butt.
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I was on the radio
in Washington DC
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when I first heard Teddy
and played his music.
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Many people thought those vocals
belonged to Harold
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when they in fact were Teddy.
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Harold did sing some leads but
the big hits belonged to Teddy,
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so I didn't know
if Teddy was Harold Melvin
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or Harold Melvin was Teddy.
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I just thought
that Harold Melvin
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was the lead of this band.
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I couldn't piece together
that it wasn't Harold Melvin
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singing those songs,
that it was Teddy Pendergrass.
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Harold's success came from
the mouth of Teddy Pendergrass.
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We got hits
after hits after hits.
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You know, and to this day,
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there ain't too many groups
can mess with us.
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Gamble was
the lyric writer, basically,
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and I played the keyboard,
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and we'll be at Gamble's office
where that upright was.
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You know, two guys in a little
room, and recording,
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and then the whole world
is singing your song.
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♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
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♪ I can't survive,
can't stay alive ♪
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♪ Without your love ♪
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It was like lightning struck.
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The studio was running seven
days a week, 20 hours a day.
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Very hard on a marriage.
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I came home one night and my
clothes were on the front lawn.
But that's another story.
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♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
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♪ No ♪
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♪ Don't leave me this way,
hey ♪
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Teddy had a certain clarity
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and a certain
I would say roughness
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but growl that was attractive.
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You gotta give a voice
like this. Raw meat.
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♪ Aaah ♪
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♪ Baby ♪
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♪ My heart is full
of love and desire for you ♪
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Teddy made a difference.
251
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You know, he was a challenge
for Huff and myself.
252
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- Yeah.
- We loved that, you know.
253
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Songs like "The Love I Lost,"
you know.
254
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♪ The love I lost ♪
255
00:17:50,356 --> 00:17:53,228
- ♪ Was a sweet love ♪
256
00:17:53,311 --> 00:17:56,850
♪ The love I lost ♪
257
00:17:57,849 --> 00:18:01,262
♪ Was complete love ♪
258
00:18:01,345 --> 00:18:05,591
♪ The love I lost ♪
259
00:18:05,674 --> 00:18:08,505
♪ I will never, no, no, never ♪
260
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♪ Love again ♪
261
00:18:12,834 --> 00:18:16,205
♪ I can remember planning ♪
262
00:18:17,454 --> 00:18:19,910
♪ Building my whole world
around you ♪
263
00:18:20,617 --> 00:18:24,030
♪ I can remember hoping ♪
264
00:18:24,114 --> 00:18:27,985
♪ That you and I
could make it on through ♪
265
00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:32,314
♪ But something went wrong ♪
266
00:18:33,688 --> 00:18:37,476
♪ We loved each other,
we just couldn't get along ♪
267
00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:40,515
♪ Take a good look at me ♪
268
00:18:40,598 --> 00:18:43,844
♪ I'm in misery,
can't you see? ♪
269
00:18:43,969 --> 00:18:44,635
♪ The love I lost ♪
270
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,131
♪ The love, the love I lost ♪
271
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♪ Was a sweet love ♪
272
00:18:50,004 --> 00:18:50,588
♪ Yes, it was ♪
273
00:18:50,671 --> 00:18:54,459
♪ The love I lost ♪
274
00:18:55,957 --> 00:18:58,413
♪ Was complete love ♪
275
00:18:58,497 --> 00:19:03,325
♪ The love I lost ♪
276
00:19:03,408 --> 00:19:04,199
♪ I will never ♪
277
00:19:04,282 --> 00:19:05,739
- ♪ Never
- ♪ No, no, never ♪
278
00:19:05,822 --> 00:19:10,859
- ♪ Never ♪
- ♪ Love again ♪
279
00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:15,687
♪ I can't remember nothing,
no, no, no ♪
280
00:19:15,771 --> 00:19:17,852
♪ But the good times
we used to share ♪
281
00:19:17,935 --> 00:19:21,057
Harold tried to
take the credit for everything.
282
00:19:21,140 --> 00:19:23,888
Teddy was really
making the money for the group.
283
00:19:23,970 --> 00:19:26,676
It was just Harold
just messing everything up.
284
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,925
Being greedy.
285
00:19:43,118 --> 00:19:45,907
We were playing at
Total Experience in Los Angeles
286
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:48,904
and, um, a royalty check
had come in
287
00:19:48,987 --> 00:19:51,068
and Harold had cashed it.
288
00:19:51,152 --> 00:19:55,023
Bernie, Teddy and Larry
were staying in motels,
289
00:19:55,106 --> 00:19:59,019
and Teddy walked
to the Beverly Wilshire,
290
00:19:59,102 --> 00:20:01,309
where Harold was staying
in a suite.
291
00:20:14,919 --> 00:20:16,377
And Harold said,
"I don't think I got it.
292
00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:18,833
I'm a little low on cash
293
00:20:18,915 --> 00:20:20,248
but I'll go upstairs
and check it out."
294
00:20:26,075 --> 00:20:29,988
And he saw these... looked like
thousands of dollars.
295
00:20:30,071 --> 00:20:35,024
He had a stack of money
on the bed, I mean stacks of
296
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,896
what they have in the banks,
you know,
297
00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,645
with the little wraps on them.
298
00:20:39,728 --> 00:20:43,890
Harold gave him 200
and told him not to tell us.
299
00:20:58,626 --> 00:21:00,666
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
300
00:21:00,749 --> 00:21:03,788
♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪
301
00:21:03,870 --> 00:21:05,036
I had to remind myself
302
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,157
that that was a Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes song.
303
00:21:09,241 --> 00:21:11,987
Because it's really
a Teddy song.
304
00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:14,486
♪ What it used to be ♪
305
00:21:14,569 --> 00:21:18,065
♪ There is so much hatred,
war and poverty ♪
306
00:21:18,148 --> 00:21:22,353
If it were Teddy
Pendergrass and the Blue Notes,
307
00:21:22,436 --> 00:21:24,142
that would've made a difference,
308
00:21:24,226 --> 00:21:26,889
but you can't
keep a good man down.
309
00:21:26,972 --> 00:21:30,261
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
310
00:21:30,345 --> 00:21:33,258
We called it
"Break Up, Everybody."
311
00:21:33,342 --> 00:21:37,379
Because Teddy left Harold.
312
00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,752
The Blue Notes left Harold.
313
00:21:39,834 --> 00:21:41,459
And Teddy went on his own.
314
00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:42,624
The Blue Notes
went on their own.
315
00:21:42,707 --> 00:21:45,205
Harold started up another group.
316
00:21:45,288 --> 00:21:48,577
Teddy was
preparing to leave Harold
317
00:21:48,659 --> 00:21:51,032
and Harold had made
some serious threats
318
00:21:51,115 --> 00:21:55,611
about what would happen
to Teddy if he did so.
319
00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:58,358
His life! Threatening his life.
320
00:21:59,191 --> 00:22:00,813
Harold came to me and said
321
00:22:00,897 --> 00:22:04,269
that he wanted to stay
with the company
322
00:22:04,352 --> 00:22:06,100
but he didn't want Teddy
to be there.
323
00:22:06,184 --> 00:22:08,764
I said we can't do that.
Business is business.
324
00:22:08,847 --> 00:22:11,137
- Right.
- You know, and um...
325
00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:13,427
I think
we made a great decision.
326
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:17,963
Harold was very
angry and didn't wish Teddy well
327
00:22:18,046 --> 00:22:22,042
when he went on his own, said
that he would fall on his face.
328
00:22:22,126 --> 00:22:26,912
But then once I heard
"I Don't Love You Anymore,"
329
00:22:26,996 --> 00:22:28,370
that's it, gone.
330
00:22:28,454 --> 00:22:32,199
♪ I don't love you anymore ♪
331
00:22:32,283 --> 00:22:34,489
♪ It's just that simple ♪
332
00:22:35,778 --> 00:22:38,900
♪ No, no, no, not like before ♪
333
00:22:38,984 --> 00:22:43,937
♪ Such a shame, dirty shame,
yeah ♪
334
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:46,144
You quit singing for a while.
How come?
335
00:22:46,227 --> 00:22:50,722
Yes, um... we recorded
a record once and um...
336
00:22:50,805 --> 00:22:53,554
heard no more from the producer
or the record
337
00:22:53,636 --> 00:22:54,884
and we kinda just..
338
00:22:54,968 --> 00:22:57,258
- That happens, though.
- But I was a kid.
339
00:22:57,341 --> 00:22:58,880
Sixteen years old, it meant
a lot to me, you know.
340
00:22:58,964 --> 00:23:02,211
- I stopped singing and--
- Completely?
341
00:23:02,294 --> 00:23:03,502
Yeah, for a while.
342
00:23:03,585 --> 00:23:06,665
I said, "I'm gonna play drums
and beat my troubles away."
343
00:23:06,747 --> 00:23:08,829
You played drums
for other people?
344
00:23:08,912 --> 00:23:11,285
Yeah. I played drums for Harold
before I sang with him.
345
00:23:11,369 --> 00:23:15,614
Harold Melvin? I bet you don't
play drums for him after this.
346
00:23:15,656 --> 00:23:18,153
I'm gonna get him to play
drums for me. No!
347
00:23:19,403 --> 00:23:22,981
Oh, Harold, you got
a big one coming. That's funny.
348
00:23:23,065 --> 00:23:24,813
Who plays drums for you now?
349
00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:25,646
A gentleman named James Carter
350
00:23:25,728 --> 00:23:27,685
and I really
wouldn't want his job,
351
00:23:27,768 --> 00:23:32,014
because I am hard on him, yeah.
352
00:23:32,098 --> 00:23:35,595
I was 21 years old,
you know, at the time,
353
00:23:35,677 --> 00:23:39,673
and I probably was a little
tiny bit more handsome
354
00:23:39,756 --> 00:23:42,046
than I am now, not much more.
355
00:23:42,753 --> 00:23:45,626
When I met Teddy, he said,
356
00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:47,208
"Good, you're gonna
be all right.
357
00:23:47,291 --> 00:23:49,954
They say drummers with gaps
in their teeth can play."
358
00:24:06,687 --> 00:24:09,311
Taaz Lang was the manager.
359
00:24:09,394 --> 00:24:14,222
So one day I got a call saying
we need to put a band together.
360
00:24:14,306 --> 00:24:16,969
Teddy knew that I was
a band leader at the Uptown
361
00:24:17,053 --> 00:24:21,382
and Teddy asked me to take over
the band, and I did,
362
00:24:21,466 --> 00:24:23,629
and that's how it got started.
363
00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:33,329
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
364
00:24:34,494 --> 00:24:40,572
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
365
00:24:42,028 --> 00:24:45,400
I was walking along 52nd Street
trying to get a gig.
366
00:24:47,565 --> 00:24:50,520
- Trying to get...
- She will do anything.
367
00:24:50,602 --> 00:24:52,351
- She will sing.
- Yes.
368
00:24:52,435 --> 00:24:54,931
And he said, "Do you know me?"
And I said, "No."
369
00:24:55,015 --> 00:24:57,221
And he said, "I'm Teddy
Pendergrass, you know.
370
00:24:57,305 --> 00:24:59,303
I left Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes
371
00:24:59,386 --> 00:25:03,382
and I'm gonna be big,"
and I was like, "Yeah. OK."
372
00:25:07,295 --> 00:25:10,999
In the audition he says,
"What's going on with you?"
373
00:25:11,082 --> 00:25:14,204
I said, "Those guys got the job,
they're great musicians."
374
00:25:14,288 --> 00:25:18,033
He says, "No." He said, "You
played what was on the paper.
375
00:25:18,117 --> 00:25:19,656
You can have the job."
376
00:25:24,111 --> 00:25:26,774
I remember just sitting
there and, I mean,
377
00:25:26,857 --> 00:25:27,982
I'm the white boy,
I'm the youngest,
378
00:25:28,065 --> 00:25:31,479
in a flannel shirt and jeans
and hiking boots.
379
00:25:31,562 --> 00:25:34,351
Everybody else is looking
Italian. I just really...
380
00:25:34,434 --> 00:25:38,222
We commune through the playing
because I kinda understood,
381
00:25:38,305 --> 00:25:39,803
you know, the music.
382
00:25:45,215 --> 00:25:47,380
One night
Teddy saw us performing
383
00:25:47,463 --> 00:25:50,460
and Taaz, his manager,
called the studio,
384
00:25:50,543 --> 00:25:52,706
and asked if we would dance
with him.
385
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:55,038
We didn't know who he was.
"Who is he?"
386
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:56,911
But what clicked for us
was they said,
387
00:25:56,994 --> 00:25:59,699
"Well, he's opening
at Carnegie Hall,"
388
00:25:59,783 --> 00:26:01,864
and we thought, "Carnegie Hall?
389
00:26:01,948 --> 00:26:05,652
Yes, we'll dance,
and we can go to Carnegie Hall."
390
00:26:07,983 --> 00:26:12,438
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
391
00:26:39,036 --> 00:26:42,366
Taaz Lang, she said,
"Hey, you need to stay here,
392
00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:45,488
it's gonna be good."
393
00:26:47,111 --> 00:26:50,524
Ted loved Taaz.
394
00:26:50,607 --> 00:26:55,519
He always made it very clear
how important that she was.
395
00:26:55,602 --> 00:26:59,308
One of the most important
relationships in his life
396
00:26:59,391 --> 00:27:01,472
is how he had put it to me.
397
00:27:03,802 --> 00:27:05,800
I knew Taaz pretty good.
398
00:27:05,884 --> 00:27:07,507
She had a beauty shop, like,
399
00:27:07,591 --> 00:27:10,255
talkative,
make-it-happen kinda lady,
400
00:27:10,338 --> 00:27:11,337
you know what I mean?
401
00:27:11,421 --> 00:27:13,834
Is that
a shop we rehearsed at?
402
00:27:13,917 --> 00:27:15,874
It was a show we rehearsed in,
yeah.
403
00:27:15,957 --> 00:27:17,830
She was a good girl
but she was firm.
404
00:27:17,913 --> 00:27:21,119
- She was very firm.
- Oh, extremely.
405
00:27:44,803 --> 00:27:47,675
We had left by bus
406
00:27:47,758 --> 00:27:50,132
so Taaz saw us off and we went
on Thursday evening.
407
00:27:50,215 --> 00:27:56,666
And Teddy
had rode with us that time.
408
00:27:56,749 --> 00:27:59,248
Was strange
that he was on the bus with us.
409
00:27:59,331 --> 00:28:04,201
And soon as he got into town,
he went to make a phone call,
410
00:28:04,284 --> 00:28:08,446
and he was informed
that Taaz Lang had been shot.
411
00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:11,236
Killed, murdered.
412
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,024
Henry Evans,
Teddy's road manager,
413
00:28:14,108 --> 00:28:16,604
called Teddy
and said that Taaz was dead.
414
00:28:16,687 --> 00:28:20,518
And I was like... the look
that I got from both of them,
415
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,347
I was like, "This is not right."
416
00:28:25,429 --> 00:28:29,467
It's uh...
filled with some kind of regret.
417
00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:32,671
I'm looking at somebody
that's full of relieved, like...
418
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,044
The hits come faster
419
00:28:36,127 --> 00:28:39,499
on the "Sonny Hopson Show!"
420
00:29:10,717 --> 00:29:12,050
I said OK.
421
00:29:20,292 --> 00:29:22,539
She had been shot.
She was killed.
422
00:29:39,771 --> 00:29:43,809
There was a lot
of thug life happening,
423
00:29:43,892 --> 00:29:46,723
you know, in the record industry
at that time.
424
00:29:51,385 --> 00:29:53,757
He intimidated me, you know.
425
00:29:53,841 --> 00:29:55,880
Sometimes I would be scared,
426
00:29:55,964 --> 00:29:58,004
excuse the term, shitless,
in the studio.
427
00:30:01,916 --> 00:30:05,163
Where you have money,
you have mobsters usually.
428
00:30:05,247 --> 00:30:08,202
You knew you had
to be a part of things
429
00:30:08,285 --> 00:30:11,906
because you're doing a show
but you didn't wanna get
430
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:13,946
9too friendly
with anybody like that.
431
00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:19,524
Taaz started making threats.
432
00:30:19,606 --> 00:30:21,022
She could ruin his career.
433
00:30:21,106 --> 00:30:23,644
That's a big threat
for an entertainer.
434
00:30:23,727 --> 00:30:26,558
"I can ruin your career,
I can change your whole life."
435
00:30:45,956 --> 00:30:47,537
Who killed Taaz?
436
00:30:53,281 --> 00:30:56,196
It was the Black Mafia,
just I don't know who.
437
00:30:56,278 --> 00:31:00,358
Just don't know who.
Never found out who did it.
438
00:31:00,441 --> 00:31:04,188
Their main business was drugs
and the business was violent.
439
00:31:04,270 --> 00:31:07,600
You can't let anybody
steal from you.
440
00:31:07,683 --> 00:31:09,723
If you do,
they had to pay a price,
441
00:31:09,806 --> 00:31:12,762
either break their legs
or take their life.
442
00:31:12,845 --> 00:31:16,633
- The story never came out.
- Never came out.
443
00:31:16,716 --> 00:31:19,255
It's one
of those unsolved mysteries.
444
00:31:19,297 --> 00:31:21,920
Like it's been said
those who say don't know
445
00:31:22,003 --> 00:31:24,958
and those who know don't say.
446
00:31:25,042 --> 00:31:28,080
One of those kinda deals.
447
00:31:28,164 --> 00:31:31,036
Didn't surprise
me about why they would kill her
448
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:36,322
because she had total control
over Teddy Pendergrass
449
00:31:36,405 --> 00:31:39,985
and I had heard the rumors
that she had too much.
450
00:31:44,106 --> 00:31:49,850
♪ This one's for you ♪
451
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:51,764
I was blessed to play
at her funeral,
452
00:31:51,848 --> 00:31:55,303
and Cecil Du Valle
played organ.
453
00:31:55,386 --> 00:31:59,591
I played piano and Teddy sang
"This One's For You."
454
00:31:59,673 --> 00:32:03,253
And you could tell the emotions
455
00:32:03,336 --> 00:32:07,125
that Teddy put into that song
for Taaz.
456
00:32:07,207 --> 00:32:10,662
Wow, it was very sad
playing that song.
457
00:32:10,745 --> 00:32:14,576
♪ That I'm the one who cries ♪
458
00:32:14,658 --> 00:32:17,281
♪ And I ♪
459
00:32:17,364 --> 00:32:21,235
Jesse Jackson
preached the eulogy.
460
00:32:21,318 --> 00:32:23,275
♪ And I'll fight so hard ♪
461
00:32:23,358 --> 00:32:26,313
♪ To hide my tears 'cause... ♪
462
00:33:02,693 --> 00:33:07,772
♪ This one is for you ♪
463
00:33:28,126 --> 00:33:31,582
I was fairly successful
as a young manager
464
00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:33,704
who got a reputation
of being different,
465
00:33:33,788 --> 00:33:36,368
and Alice was one
of the artists I managed
466
00:33:36,452 --> 00:33:37,409
so I got on a plane,
I went to Philadelphia
467
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,740
to see Teddy Pendergrass.
468
00:33:39,823 --> 00:33:43,111
I didn't realize
till I got to the show
469
00:33:43,195 --> 00:33:44,028
that it was the lead singer
470
00:33:44,110 --> 00:33:46,775
of Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes,
471
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,023
who happened to be one of my
favorite groups in the world.
472
00:33:49,105 --> 00:33:54,184
Would you do me
a very big favor, please?
473
00:33:54,267 --> 00:33:57,638
Give a round of applause
to the Teddy Bear Dancers!
474
00:34:06,172 --> 00:34:07,296
But I hated the show.
475
00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:11,250
Dancers. He was dressed in
a cape. I didn't like it at all.
476
00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:16,537
But I go backstage, all the
Jewish managers in the business
477
00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:17,660
are at the backstage door.
478
00:34:17,744 --> 00:34:20,199
I didn't wait. I just left.
479
00:34:37,932 --> 00:34:40,637
So I went back down
to Philadelphia.
480
00:34:40,721 --> 00:34:42,094
He lived in a penthouse.
481
00:34:42,177 --> 00:34:46,257
This gorgeous lady in lingerie
opened the doors,
482
00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:47,548
like a set of a movie.
483
00:34:47,630 --> 00:34:50,086
And I come in and then Teddy
walks in the room.
484
00:34:50,169 --> 00:34:54,665
And in person, Teddy
is overwhelmingly handsome.
485
00:34:55,248 --> 00:34:58,578
Overwhelmingly sexual.
486
00:34:58,661 --> 00:35:02,366
Overwhelmingly magnetic
and remarkable.
487
00:35:02,449 --> 00:35:03,365
I had no idea what to say.
488
00:35:03,448 --> 00:35:05,779
So I came up
with the most outrageous thing
489
00:35:05,862 --> 00:35:07,236
I could possibly think of.
490
00:35:07,319 --> 00:35:09,775
"You have no way to tell
491
00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:13,729
which one of us Jews
is telling you the truth.
492
00:35:13,813 --> 00:35:16,976
It's like a foreign lang...
And the guys you had there?
493
00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:20,306
They're all the best at lying.
And I happen to be one of them.
494
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:23,928
The one thing you probably know
how to do is get high.
495
00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:25,426
And I know how to do that too.
496
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:28,090
You probably
get higher than you should.
497
00:35:28,173 --> 00:35:30,629
There'll be times when you have
money in your pocket
498
00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:32,835
and someone
may take it from you.
499
00:35:32,919 --> 00:35:36,997
I get as high as you
but I keep it together,
500
00:35:37,081 --> 00:35:38,871
and I make sure I have the cash
so when you wake up..."
501
00:35:38,954 --> 00:35:42,201
And he just looked at me like,
"What?"
502
00:35:42,284 --> 00:35:45,114
I said, "Meet me somewhere,
bring your best drugs,
503
00:35:45,198 --> 00:35:47,029
your best women,
whatever you want,
504
00:35:47,112 --> 00:35:49,194
and we'll see
who goes down first."
505
00:35:49,277 --> 00:35:50,276
♪ Come on and get down ♪
506
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,857
♪ Down, down,
down, down, down ♪
507
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:56,062
And three days later,
Teddy collapsed.
508
00:35:59,767 --> 00:36:01,806
I managed him
the rest of his career.
509
00:36:06,385 --> 00:36:08,965
So we first sat down,
I told him,
510
00:36:09,049 --> 00:36:11,339
"By the way, the show goes
511
00:36:11,422 --> 00:36:13,545
and you gotta get rid
of the dancers."
512
00:36:13,628 --> 00:36:15,460
Where I come from,
we say dance the ass off.
513
00:36:15,543 --> 00:36:18,664
We were fired!
514
00:36:18,748 --> 00:36:22,077
So that was how he met Karen.
515
00:36:22,161 --> 00:36:23,701
They told Teddy,
"You don't need dancers.
516
00:36:23,784 --> 00:36:26,115
You're a star, you can do this."
517
00:36:26,198 --> 00:36:29,571
Teddy said,
"Now you don't work for me,
518
00:36:29,653 --> 00:36:31,402
will you go out with me?"
519
00:36:31,485 --> 00:36:33,150
And that's
how we started dating.
520
00:36:35,856 --> 00:36:37,563
We went to our first show.
521
00:36:37,645 --> 00:36:39,519
Teddy Pendergrass!
522
00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:44,598
- Thank you!
523
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,885
And now the show's over I found
the promoter in the bathroom.
524
00:36:47,968 --> 00:36:49,924
I said, "Hi, I'm Shep,
I'm the new manager."
525
00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:52,797
He said,
"We didn't bring any cash."
526
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,085
I said, "What do you mean?
Do you have a check book?"
527
00:36:56,168 --> 00:36:59,583
"We'll send it to him."
"You'll do what?"
528
00:36:59,665 --> 00:37:02,704
And finally got a little crazy
529
00:37:02,787 --> 00:37:04,827
and he ended up
giving me his ring.
530
00:37:04,909 --> 00:37:07,865
He said, "Tell Teddy to keep the
ring till he gets the check."
531
00:37:07,948 --> 00:37:10,446
I went into Teddy's
dressing room
532
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:12,528
and I said,
"What the fuck is going on?"
533
00:37:12,610 --> 00:37:14,150
So, anyway, I left
534
00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:17,439
and I started talking to friends
who knew that world.
535
00:37:17,523 --> 00:37:20,478
Um, and they explained to me
536
00:37:20,562 --> 00:37:23,600
that this thing that I had heard
somewhere in the back of my head
537
00:37:23,683 --> 00:37:25,681
but never really thought about,
538
00:37:25,764 --> 00:37:28,470
which was the Chitlin' Circuit
and it was black promoters,
539
00:37:28,554 --> 00:37:30,925
black record companies,
540
00:37:31,008 --> 00:37:35,004
getting black artists to play
their venues basically for free
541
00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:37,918
'cause they thought they had to
to promote their records.
542
00:37:38,001 --> 00:37:40,041
They had to work for something.
543
00:37:40,124 --> 00:37:43,704
You know, and sometimes they
would work for almost nothing.
544
00:37:43,788 --> 00:37:46,452
I just didn't want
to be a part of it.
545
00:37:46,536 --> 00:37:49,407
So that night I said to Teddy,
you know, "Fuck 'em."
546
00:37:49,491 --> 00:37:53,529
Um... "We're going to play
for white promoters.
547
00:37:53,611 --> 00:37:54,402
You're gonna get paid
548
00:37:54,486 --> 00:37:58,357
and let 'em go
abuse somebody else."
549
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,229
And he said, "Listen,
I didn't tell you this before."
550
00:38:01,312 --> 00:38:04,891
"What's that?" He said, "My last
manager was shot to death."
551
00:38:04,974 --> 00:38:10,220
Uh... So the table
soon turned at that moment
552
00:38:10,303 --> 00:38:12,925
where I had to really think,
and I said, "Fuck 'em.
553
00:38:13,008 --> 00:38:14,049
You're in, I'm in."
554
00:38:14,132 --> 00:38:16,837
He said, "I'll take the ride
with you. Let's do it."
555
00:38:17,754 --> 00:38:21,459
Can we have a warm welcome
556
00:38:21,542 --> 00:38:22,333
for Mr. Teddy Pendergrass!
557
00:38:26,661 --> 00:38:28,368
The first show we did
was at the Roxy in LA.
558
00:38:28,452 --> 00:38:30,616
White promoters.
559
00:38:30,699 --> 00:38:33,613
We got death threats.
FBI protected us.
560
00:38:33,696 --> 00:38:36,651
We got security from them.
561
00:38:36,735 --> 00:38:38,567
But we got through it and sort
of opened the floodgates
562
00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:42,188
and at least at the live level,
563
00:38:42,271 --> 00:38:45,477
the concept of Chitlin' Circuit
was gotten rid of.
564
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,640
For me that's the most
important thing
565
00:38:47,724 --> 00:38:49,514
to get out about Teddy.
566
00:38:49,598 --> 00:38:51,969
He risked his life
to make it easier
567
00:38:52,011 --> 00:38:57,131
for Afro American artists
after him. And that's big.
568
00:38:58,380 --> 00:38:59,628
I'll tell you a secret.
569
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:03,624
No offense to our white brothers
and sisters but the hotel said,
570
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:07,204
"I've never seen
so many niggers in my life!"
571
00:39:09,494 --> 00:39:10,410
But I'm glad we all came down.
572
00:39:10,493 --> 00:39:12,241
It's nice to see that we can
all sit together.
573
00:39:12,324 --> 00:39:17,403
Some of you in the front and
some of us in the front there.
574
00:39:17,486 --> 00:39:20,316
We don't ride the back
of the bus no more.
575
00:39:22,148 --> 00:39:24,936
We went to California
to see them perform.
576
00:39:25,019 --> 00:39:27,393
- What was the place?
- Roxy.
577
00:39:27,476 --> 00:39:28,974
Roxy. Yeah.
578
00:39:29,057 --> 00:39:32,513
- We knew it then, we said, wow.
- Yeah.
579
00:39:32,596 --> 00:39:34,884
This was not the usual.
580
00:39:34,968 --> 00:39:39,506
Mm-hm. You know what
was amazing too, Gamble?
581
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:41,587
Teddy didn't even
open his mouth yet
582
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:44,251
and the females just went crazy.
583
00:39:46,082 --> 00:39:48,038
I thought, "Wait a second.
584
00:39:48,122 --> 00:39:50,161
Let's just do shows
for women only."
585
00:39:52,076 --> 00:39:55,156
There was a full-page ad
with a teddy bear
586
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,364
and an invitation.
587
00:39:56,447 --> 00:40:00,900
We had a recorded message
from Teddy with a phone number
588
00:40:00,983 --> 00:40:03,399
and you called it
and he invited them to it.
589
00:40:03,482 --> 00:40:06,270
This is Teddy Pendergrass.
Join me, won't you?
590
00:40:06,354 --> 00:40:09,974
Now that I got 'em in the hall,
how do I really get 'em crazy?
591
00:40:10,058 --> 00:40:12,680
We came up with chocolate
teddy bear lollipops
592
00:40:12,763 --> 00:40:14,596
that we gave out
to the audience
593
00:40:14,678 --> 00:40:19,049
so the girls could lick it
and bite it and...
594
00:40:19,132 --> 00:40:21,422
We sold out...
595
00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:22,670
- In a second.
596
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:26,501
There has been
screaming at the Greek Theatre.
597
00:40:26,584 --> 00:40:28,582
People think
they've found a new king,
598
00:40:28,664 --> 00:40:31,702
a successor to Frank Sinatra,
Elvis Presley.
599
00:40:31,786 --> 00:40:33,577
He is Teddy Pendergrass.
600
00:40:33,659 --> 00:40:35,533
♪ You ♪
601
00:40:35,616 --> 00:40:38,072
♪ You got, you got,
you got what I want ♪
602
00:40:38,155 --> 00:40:42,650
♪ You got, you got,
you got what I need ♪
603
00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:45,565
♪ Only you, baby, only you ♪
604
00:40:45,647 --> 00:40:48,395
♪ Only you,
you, you, you, you ♪
605
00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:51,891
♪ You ♪
606
00:40:51,974 --> 00:40:54,431
Sensuous looking and hairy
607
00:40:54,514 --> 00:40:56,969
and, oh, just fantastic.
608
00:40:57,053 --> 00:40:59,259
I got butterflies in my stomach.
609
00:40:59,343 --> 00:41:02,381
- Something was gonna happen.
- We were gonna do something.
610
00:41:02,465 --> 00:41:05,253
- Something was gonna happen.
- We was coming to do it.
611
00:41:09,166 --> 00:41:11,581
Every show was jam-packed.
612
00:41:11,662 --> 00:41:14,743
And the women were just...
I thought they were nuts.
613
00:41:14,826 --> 00:41:17,325
- Oh!
- What appeals about him?
614
00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:22,069
His body. His body. Mm-mm-mm!
615
00:41:25,982 --> 00:41:28,729
They loved Teddy.
They loved Teddy.
616
00:41:28,812 --> 00:41:30,685
They showed him
any way they could.
617
00:41:30,768 --> 00:41:32,933
Rush the stage.
Throw panties on the stage.
618
00:41:32,975 --> 00:41:35,805
He would meet a woman
and within 11 seconds,
619
00:41:35,930 --> 00:41:38,220
he could get it
to a point with her
620
00:41:38,304 --> 00:41:41,592
that if I had met her I'd have
to go out a couple of times,
621
00:41:41,674 --> 00:41:44,921
I'd have to meet her parents.
622
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:46,587
I'd have to go through all this
623
00:41:46,669 --> 00:41:49,749
just to get to the point
where he was in 11 seconds.
624
00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:51,541
It wasn't even fair.
625
00:42:03,153 --> 00:42:05,817
Who's the one in the shows
that's screaming and hollering?
626
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:06,607
It's the females.
627
00:42:06,691 --> 00:42:08,939
So you gotta write for them.
628
00:42:09,022 --> 00:42:11,727
- And that's what we did.
- And that's what we did.
629
00:42:11,811 --> 00:42:14,891
May I just list the first
four songs on the album?
630
00:42:14,975 --> 00:42:15,392
"Come Go With Me."
631
00:42:15,475 --> 00:42:16,681
"Close the Door."
632
00:42:16,764 --> 00:42:18,762
"Turn Off the Lights."
633
00:42:18,845 --> 00:42:20,136
- "Do Me."
- Yes.
634
00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,051
- Now...
635
00:42:23,342 --> 00:42:25,173
- Have I got it?
- You got it!
636
00:42:25,257 --> 00:42:29,127
- ♪ Turn off the lights ♪
637
00:42:30,126 --> 00:42:31,125
♪ And light a candle ♪
638
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:34,164
♪ Just like that, baby ♪
639
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,907
♪ Tonight,
I'm in a romantic mood ♪
640
00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:42,198
♪ Yes ♪
641
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,152
♪ Let's take a shower ♪
642
00:42:47,151 --> 00:42:49,648
♪ Shower together ♪
643
00:42:50,647 --> 00:42:53,312
♪ I'll wash your body ♪
644
00:42:53,395 --> 00:42:57,141
♪ If you'll promise
to wash mine ♪
645
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:01,304
♪ Rub me down ♪
646
00:43:01,387 --> 00:43:05,425
♪ In some, in some hot oils,
baby ♪
647
00:43:06,382 --> 00:43:12,335
♪ And I'll do
the same thing to you ♪
648
00:43:12,418 --> 00:43:14,499
Teddy was the guy
that other men wanted to be like
649
00:43:14,582 --> 00:43:17,246
and women wanted.
650
00:43:17,330 --> 00:43:19,494
I just like the way
he just sings it.
651
00:43:19,577 --> 00:43:20,617
He sings it good
and I like the way
652
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,240
he's just altogether, you know.
653
00:43:23,324 --> 00:43:26,237
This is billed
as a "for women only" concert.
654
00:43:26,321 --> 00:43:29,359
That doesn't mean anything.
Here's my lady right here.
655
00:43:29,443 --> 00:43:31,647
I want to see him
just as bad as she does.
656
00:43:31,731 --> 00:43:33,854
The guys that did come to
the show, he would say to 'em,
657
00:43:33,937 --> 00:43:36,518
"I'm not here
to take your woman,
658
00:43:36,601 --> 00:43:39,681
I'm just starting them up
for you."
659
00:43:39,764 --> 00:43:41,597
"I'm getting them ready
for you."
660
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,885
"When I get finished I'm going
on the bus. They're yours!"
661
00:43:47,923 --> 00:43:50,628
♪ Just do it to me ♪
662
00:43:50,712 --> 00:43:52,211
♪ I'll do it to you ♪
663
00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:54,791
♪ Come here, baby ♪
664
00:43:54,875 --> 00:43:58,871
♪ Lay your head next to mine ♪
665
00:43:58,954 --> 00:44:00,869
♪ Oh, oh ♪
666
00:44:00,952 --> 00:44:02,492
♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪
667
00:44:02,576 --> 00:44:05,448
♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪
668
00:44:07,155 --> 00:44:07,987
Black male sexuality
669
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:10,942
was such a threatening issue
in America
670
00:44:11,025 --> 00:44:13,440
that to present something
so in your face
671
00:44:13,523 --> 00:44:17,019
and so uh...
672
00:44:18,476 --> 00:44:20,308
just blatantly black
673
00:44:20,392 --> 00:44:22,805
is risky.
674
00:44:22,888 --> 00:44:26,427
♪ See,
I know what to do with it ♪
675
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:28,550
But if you look
at Teddy's career,
676
00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:30,839
it worked like gangbusters.
677
00:44:30,922 --> 00:44:32,587
♪ If you ever let me get it ♪
678
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:35,459
♪ Give it up now ♪
679
00:44:35,543 --> 00:44:38,914
If God forbid the album reaches
the success of this one,
680
00:44:38,956 --> 00:44:42,536
I'd have to ride around
in a police wagon or something.
681
00:44:42,618 --> 00:44:45,200
I don't like to do that.
682
00:44:45,283 --> 00:44:49,611
He was a charismatic,
strong, emoting performer
683
00:44:49,694 --> 00:44:51,568
when he was center stage,
684
00:44:51,651 --> 00:44:54,233
and the women
just went ga-ga over him.
685
00:44:54,316 --> 00:44:58,395
They went crazy for him. Black
and white. Black and white.
686
00:44:58,478 --> 00:45:00,725
We'll sing
whatever comes to your mind.
687
00:45:03,057 --> 00:45:05,305
Would you say that again
in the microphone?
688
00:45:05,388 --> 00:45:08,094
This lady came backstage
and I walk out the door
689
00:45:08,177 --> 00:45:11,257
and she has this knife and
she pulls it out of her pocket.
690
00:45:11,341 --> 00:45:14,420
She says, "If I can't have you,
nobody can."
691
00:45:16,626 --> 00:45:19,083
Yeah, and she lunged at me
with this... I mean...
692
00:45:19,166 --> 00:45:23,536
This was a black lady
and it was a black knife.
693
00:45:23,619 --> 00:45:26,242
- That long, huh?
694
00:45:26,326 --> 00:45:29,821
I seen some things
that my dog wouldn't bark at.
695
00:45:29,905 --> 00:45:31,778
We had girls pull knives, guns.
696
00:45:31,861 --> 00:45:34,608
We had girls
buy maids' uniforms.
697
00:45:34,691 --> 00:45:37,065
They'd be waiting for him
in the suite.
698
00:45:37,148 --> 00:45:39,895
If you love
a man like that you know
699
00:45:39,978 --> 00:45:42,392
that part of the real estate
is a lot of other homes.
700
00:45:42,476 --> 00:45:45,638
That he is the property owner
of many residences.
701
00:45:46,513 --> 00:45:48,553
I would not go on the road.
702
00:45:48,635 --> 00:45:51,301
He would even call me and say,
"I want you to come out,"
703
00:45:51,383 --> 00:45:53,881
and I would not go.
I'm like, "Don't send for me."
704
00:45:53,964 --> 00:45:57,128
I would not go on the road.
705
00:45:57,211 --> 00:46:00,250
I didn't want to be
a part of it.
706
00:46:00,333 --> 00:46:04,703
When Ted
came into a room, you knew it.
707
00:46:04,786 --> 00:46:09,532
It was like a hurricane
literally walked in.
708
00:46:09,614 --> 00:46:11,946
Just adorable.
709
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,943
I loved the way he smelled.
710
00:46:15,027 --> 00:46:16,774
I loved the way he laughed
711
00:46:16,858 --> 00:46:21,353
and I loved the way his face
would light up when he saw me.
712
00:46:23,393 --> 00:46:24,766
It felt great.
713
00:46:24,850 --> 00:46:28,846
It felt great,
made me feel special.
714
00:46:32,384 --> 00:46:35,132
Teddy rode past me
in a blue Rolls-Royce.
715
00:46:35,215 --> 00:46:37,587
He called me to his car
716
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:40,376
and I got nervous,
I ran from him.
717
00:46:40,459 --> 00:46:43,249
I thought he was a pimp.
A pimp.
718
00:46:43,331 --> 00:46:45,912
My sister showed me an album.
719
00:46:45,996 --> 00:46:48,077
I said, "That's the man
who stopped me."
720
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,700
She said, "That's Teddy
Pendergrass, stupid."
721
00:46:49,783 --> 00:46:51,739
I said, "I ran from him."
722
00:46:51,823 --> 00:46:53,821
So we'd both kiss the album.
723
00:46:53,904 --> 00:46:58,441
But he was very handsome,
I must say that.
724
00:46:58,525 --> 00:47:00,772
There was something magical
about him.
725
00:47:00,855 --> 00:47:03,602
♪ Tried to take control
of the love ♪
726
00:47:03,686 --> 00:47:07,599
♪ Love took control of me ♪
727
00:47:07,682 --> 00:47:11,262
♪ Caused me to lose all
thought, all sense of time ♪
728
00:47:11,345 --> 00:47:13,468
♪ I had a change of mind ♪
729
00:47:13,551 --> 00:47:18,047
♪ But taking the bumps and the
bruises and all the things ♪
730
00:47:18,130 --> 00:47:20,794
♪ Of a two-time loser ♪
731
00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:25,123
♪ Trying to hold on,
faith is all gone ♪
732
00:47:25,207 --> 00:47:27,912
♪ Just another,
just another sad song ♪
733
00:47:27,995 --> 00:47:31,866
♪ I think I'd better
let it go ♪
734
00:47:33,157 --> 00:47:36,861
You're a bachelor and I
have some first-hand knowledge
735
00:47:36,945 --> 00:47:40,274
as to how lonely
736
00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:44,479
and miserable and boring...
737
00:47:44,562 --> 00:47:47,392
- Lonely? Lonely sometimes.
738
00:47:47,476 --> 00:47:50,680
- Boring? I don't think so!
- You don't like the boring?
739
00:47:50,764 --> 00:47:51,638
Boring, I don't know.
740
00:47:51,721 --> 00:47:53,844
There were
so many pieces to him.
741
00:47:53,928 --> 00:47:58,631
He was a kind, wonderful,
sexy, arrogant...
742
00:47:58,714 --> 00:48:00,670
There was just
a whole spectrum of people
743
00:48:00,754 --> 00:48:04,209
wrapped up in that one person.
744
00:48:05,167 --> 00:48:07,747
He talked about
not knowing his father
745
00:48:07,830 --> 00:48:10,578
and that troubled him.
746
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:12,242
And when he met his father,
747
00:48:12,326 --> 00:48:17,155
he didn't like how his father
handled him with his mom.
748
00:48:17,237 --> 00:48:21,400
I promised him,
before I leave this world,
749
00:48:21,483 --> 00:48:23,606
I'm gonna let you see your dad.
750
00:48:23,689 --> 00:48:26,686
I'm gonna look him up
and I'm gonna find him
751
00:48:26,769 --> 00:48:29,559
and I'm gonna let you see
your father,
752
00:48:29,641 --> 00:48:34,429
and I did just that,
when he was 11 years old.
753
00:48:34,512 --> 00:48:38,757
And we dressed to kill
that day, wow.
754
00:48:38,841 --> 00:48:43,253
And I turned to Teddy and I
said, "This is your father."
755
00:48:43,336 --> 00:48:46,042
And he looked up at him and
he dropped his head real quick
756
00:48:46,126 --> 00:48:50,329
and I said,
"Honey, look at your father.
757
00:48:50,413 --> 00:48:55,199
Make sure when you see him
again, you will know who he is."
758
00:48:56,698 --> 00:48:59,029
Me and Teddy,
we went on a trolley
759
00:48:59,113 --> 00:49:01,776
and started back for home.
760
00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,939
The next time we saw him,
761
00:49:06,896 --> 00:49:08,686
he was in his coffin.
762
00:49:08,769 --> 00:49:12,224
♪ I give myself away ♪
763
00:49:12,932 --> 00:49:14,763
♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪
764
00:49:14,847 --> 00:49:18,260
♪ I give myself away ♪
765
00:49:18,343 --> 00:49:21,298
♪ So you can use me ♪
766
00:50:01,592 --> 00:50:03,923
He always said that
767
00:50:04,006 --> 00:50:06,795
because his father
wasn't in his life,
768
00:50:06,878 --> 00:50:10,707
he always wanted to be
in our lives. No matter what.
769
00:50:10,791 --> 00:50:14,953
And at times he could be selfish
770
00:50:15,037 --> 00:50:19,115
or he felt like it was all him,
771
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:21,322
that he had to
always do everything.
772
00:50:21,405 --> 00:50:24,651
Whereas though that probably
came from the fact that
773
00:50:24,735 --> 00:50:28,065
he didn't have anybody
to lean on growing up.
774
00:50:28,148 --> 00:50:33,101
So it made him strong
but it also made him feel
775
00:50:33,185 --> 00:50:34,933
like he was all he had.
776
00:50:35,017 --> 00:50:38,014
He just wanted to protect us
from the world.
777
00:50:38,096 --> 00:50:40,886
I guess he lived
and he saw it all
778
00:50:40,969 --> 00:50:42,967
and he just didn't want us
to go through
779
00:50:43,009 --> 00:50:46,088
half of the things
that he went through.
780
00:50:46,172 --> 00:50:48,336
Get funky for me one time!
781
00:50:53,331 --> 00:50:57,494
I liked him most
of the time but he was a guy
782
00:50:57,578 --> 00:50:59,409
that if he made you love him,
you loved him.
783
00:50:59,492 --> 00:51:01,282
If he made you mad...
784
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,818
He made you mad!
785
00:51:06,901 --> 00:51:09,399
Teddy had a tremendous ego.
786
00:51:09,482 --> 00:51:10,981
He also had a tremendous talent
787
00:51:11,063 --> 00:51:14,852
and I was trying to imagine
what it would have been like
788
00:51:14,935 --> 00:51:18,598
to be thrust into the limelight,
789
00:51:18,681 --> 00:51:22,052
into being a star at the pace
that it happened for him.
790
00:51:22,136 --> 00:51:25,049
A complicated
guy. A complicated man.
791
00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:29,670
A weird combination of ego and
vulnerability at the same time.
792
00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:31,626
And I do think
a lot of those characteristics
793
00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:34,082
helped him put those songs over.
794
00:51:34,165 --> 00:51:36,913
♪ Life is a song
worth singing ♪
795
00:51:36,996 --> 00:51:40,243
♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪
796
00:51:41,283 --> 00:51:43,781
♪ Life is a song
worth singing ♪
797
00:51:43,864 --> 00:51:47,277
♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪
798
00:51:47,361 --> 00:51:50,649
Five platinum albums in a row!
799
00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:53,271
- That's some kind of record.
- Yes, thank you.
800
00:51:53,355 --> 00:51:54,603
Platinum.
801
00:51:54,687 --> 00:51:57,101
Come on.
802
00:51:57,184 --> 00:52:01,472
Why don't you tell the audience
what platinum albums are?
803
00:52:01,555 --> 00:52:04,677
- Platinum's better than gold.
- One million copies were sold.
804
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,091
- Gold is 500.
- Gold is 500,000.
805
00:52:07,174 --> 00:52:09,547
Yes, and platinum
is twice as much.
806
00:52:11,212 --> 00:52:13,959
♪ You're a fool
if you think you're helpless ♪
807
00:52:14,042 --> 00:52:19,162
♪ You decide
just to live your mind ♪
808
00:52:21,243 --> 00:52:25,781
My elementary school
was on 315 Broad Street.
809
00:52:25,864 --> 00:52:29,860
Philly International
I believe was 313.
810
00:52:29,943 --> 00:52:32,107
So all Broad Street knew
when Teddy Pendergrass
811
00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:36,395
was in proximity because
the sound of shrieking women
812
00:52:36,479 --> 00:52:39,600
shouldn't be that loud
at 12 p.m. in the afternoon.
813
00:52:39,683 --> 00:52:42,639
The second you start hearing
the shrieks it's like...
814
00:52:42,722 --> 00:52:46,469
"Yeah, Teddy Pendergrass
is over."
815
00:52:46,552 --> 00:52:48,050
It was chaos and he ate it up.
816
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:52,296
Teddy Pendergrass
was Philadelphia's king.
817
00:52:52,379 --> 00:52:53,170
Its prince.
818
00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:55,585
He was a sleek-looking guy.
819
00:52:55,667 --> 00:52:58,706
Brown brother.
Nice hair. Nice features.
820
00:52:58,789 --> 00:52:59,954
And dressing sharp.
821
00:53:00,038 --> 00:53:03,160
When you ride with Teddy
it was an adventure
822
00:53:03,243 --> 00:53:08,030
'cause he would have
his drink here, his pistol here.
823
00:53:09,446 --> 00:53:12,609
And whatever other
paraphernalia he had.
824
00:53:12,692 --> 00:53:15,440
And I'm hanging on and he'd say,
825
00:53:15,523 --> 00:53:19,185
"What's wrong, Jesse,
you scared?" Goddamn right.
826
00:53:21,350 --> 00:53:25,513
The only thing I
ever worried about with Ted is
827
00:53:25,597 --> 00:53:30,508
the police gave him such
a hard time in Philadelphia
828
00:53:30,592 --> 00:53:32,464
that I never knew
829
00:53:32,548 --> 00:53:34,087
when something might happen.
830
00:53:36,043 --> 00:53:38,250
Whenever they saw his car,
831
00:53:38,333 --> 00:53:43,537
they were right behind us
and they were following him
832
00:53:43,619 --> 00:53:46,700
and just looking
for an opportunity.
833
00:53:51,653 --> 00:53:54,526
I lived in Philadelphia
from '65 to '70.
834
00:53:54,608 --> 00:53:57,106
Some tough years down there
for relations between the races.
835
00:53:57,147 --> 00:54:00,893
There was some tense moments
in North Philadelphia.
836
00:54:00,977 --> 00:54:03,433
I got to know the neighborhood
rather well.
837
00:54:03,517 --> 00:54:06,556
I've got a couple of scars
that I can show you
838
00:54:06,638 --> 00:54:09,594
from some of those days.
It was rough.
839
00:54:26,327 --> 00:54:28,865
Somebody dropped a dime.
840
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:35,651
And because of the police siren,
everybody ran.
841
00:54:35,734 --> 00:54:37,856
Well, then Teddy ran too.
842
00:54:46,972 --> 00:54:49,928
He was innocent, he didn't do
what the police said he did.
843
00:54:50,011 --> 00:54:52,717
Somebody was robbed
or something
844
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,089
and he fit the profile
and he was locked up.
845
00:54:55,173 --> 00:54:58,086
When we had the hearing,
Teddy told the story.
846
00:54:58,170 --> 00:55:03,165
The judge said,
"But you shouldn't have run,"
847
00:55:03,248 --> 00:55:05,912
so they took him
to the Youth Study Center.
848
00:55:05,995 --> 00:55:09,700
He called me.
"Mom, come and get me."
849
00:55:09,783 --> 00:55:13,654
He stayed there five months,
I think it was.
850
00:55:36,631 --> 00:55:39,628
♪ Had my dream so near ♪
851
00:55:41,085 --> 00:55:43,125
♪ I could reach out
and touch it ♪
852
00:55:43,208 --> 00:55:44,207
♪ I could touch it ♪
853
00:55:44,291 --> 00:55:48,120
- ♪ And I lost it ♪
- ♪ And I lost it ♪
854
00:55:48,203 --> 00:55:50,201
♪ And I lost it ♪
855
00:55:51,242 --> 00:55:54,030
The police
would come by the house,
856
00:55:54,114 --> 00:55:57,943
and, of course, it escalated
and next thing you know,
857
00:55:58,026 --> 00:56:02,231
they're taking him off
in handcuffs.
858
00:56:03,147 --> 00:56:05,061
The police harassed him a lot.
859
00:56:05,145 --> 00:56:08,267
And Teddy didn't take
any stuff from anybody
860
00:56:08,350 --> 00:56:09,516
and if he felt he was right,
861
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:11,846
he was gonna
stand up for himself.
862
00:56:11,929 --> 00:56:16,050
And here is this big black man
with that Rolls-Royce.
863
00:56:16,134 --> 00:56:19,838
Millionaire. So the police
felt like that's a target.
864
00:56:49,808 --> 00:56:53,305
♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪
865
00:56:53,389 --> 00:56:56,177
♪ In Celebrity Jeans ♪
866
00:56:58,550 --> 00:57:00,797
Be free, be someone special
867
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,960
with Teddy Pendergrass
Celebrity Body Jeans.
868
00:57:05,708 --> 00:57:08,290
- You got them Teddy jeans?
869
00:57:08,374 --> 00:57:10,205
♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪
870
00:57:10,288 --> 00:57:13,784
We were ready
and we had all these elements
871
00:57:13,867 --> 00:57:17,448
and we had a clear path
to stardom.
872
00:57:17,531 --> 00:57:20,611
You could just feel
that he was gonna be
873
00:57:20,693 --> 00:57:22,900
what I used to call
the great black hope.
874
00:57:22,983 --> 00:57:25,398
My market is very loyal to me
875
00:57:25,482 --> 00:57:27,978
and I'm very, very grateful
to that
876
00:57:28,062 --> 00:57:29,809
and I would never ever leave
877
00:57:29,893 --> 00:57:33,680
but what I wanna do is expose
my way of doing things
878
00:57:33,764 --> 00:57:35,347
to other marketplaces
879
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:38,800
and give them a chance to say
whether they like it or not.
880
00:57:38,884 --> 00:57:42,340
He was positioned to be really
a major artist,
881
00:57:42,423 --> 00:57:44,794
crossover artist,
because he had that talent,
882
00:57:44,878 --> 00:57:46,377
and he had the music behind him
883
00:57:46,461 --> 00:57:48,957
and he had
the right management team.
884
00:57:49,041 --> 00:57:51,080
His job was to become,
at least I felt,
885
00:57:51,164 --> 00:57:54,784
and I think he felt the same,
to become the black Elvis.
886
00:58:02,776 --> 00:58:03,900
He was about to go worldwide
887
00:58:03,984 --> 00:58:06,606
and he would have been
a total phenomenon.
888
00:58:06,689 --> 00:58:09,521
You know, in that range
889
00:58:09,603 --> 00:58:14,057
of Prince or Michael Jackson,
whatever,
890
00:58:14,141 --> 00:58:17,138
he was getting ready
to take it to another level.
891
00:58:17,221 --> 00:58:18,470
I could see that coming.
892
00:58:18,554 --> 00:58:21,342
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
893
00:58:21,426 --> 00:58:23,090
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
894
00:58:26,296 --> 00:58:28,002
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
a- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
895
00:58:28,085 --> 00:58:31,541
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
896
00:58:33,704 --> 00:58:38,615
Everything was waiting for him.
Movies, television, everything.
897
00:58:47,982 --> 00:58:50,728
Now, my darling,
wherever you are...
898
00:58:59,803 --> 00:59:01,717
Think I should say that again?
899
00:59:01,801 --> 00:59:04,590
Said my darling,
wherever you are.
900
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,955
Won't you please...
listen to my song?
901
00:59:16,744 --> 00:59:18,244
We were on the way
902
00:59:18,327 --> 00:59:21,948
but we still didn't cross over
yet. It was, it was trying to.
903
00:59:22,031 --> 00:59:24,363
We were just finding
the right couple of songs.
904
00:59:30,813 --> 00:59:34,893
Teddy had asked me
to do an arrangement on "Lady."
905
00:59:34,976 --> 00:59:38,182
And it made a lot of sense
to do that
906
00:59:38,265 --> 00:59:42,011
because Teddy's voice would have
brought in the black audience.
907
00:59:42,094 --> 00:59:44,259
But the choice of song
908
00:59:44,343 --> 00:59:46,631
would have brought in
the white audience.
909
00:59:46,714 --> 00:59:49,421
And the combination of the two
would have been a hit.
910
00:59:50,919 --> 00:59:55,165
- ♪ Lady ♪
911
00:59:55,248 --> 00:59:57,912
♪ I'm your knight
in shining armor ♪
912
00:59:59,244 --> 01:00:01,949
♪ And I love you ♪
913
01:00:03,573 --> 01:00:06,070
♪ You have come into my life ♪
914
01:00:06,154 --> 01:00:08,319
♪ And ♪
915
01:00:09,401 --> 01:00:13,022
♪ Made me whole ♪
916
01:00:19,973 --> 01:00:22,221
♪ And for ever ♪
917
01:00:22,928 --> 01:00:25,593
♪ Let me wake to see you ♪
918
01:00:25,675 --> 01:00:29,381
♪ Each, each
and every morning ♪
919
01:00:31,836 --> 01:00:36,747
♪ Let me hear you
whisper softly ♪
920
01:00:37,746 --> 01:00:42,326
♪ In my ear ♪
921
01:00:46,156 --> 01:00:48,652
♪ In my eyes ♪
922
01:00:48,735 --> 01:00:53,023
♪ But in my eyes ♪
923
01:00:53,107 --> 01:00:56,478
♪ I see no one else but you ♪
924
01:00:56,562 --> 01:00:59,724
♪ There's no other ♪
925
01:00:59,808 --> 01:01:03,139
♪ Love like our love ♪
926
01:01:04,012 --> 01:01:08,425
♪ Oh yes, oh yes ♪
927
01:01:08,508 --> 01:01:11,256
♪ I'll always want you
near me ♪
928
01:01:12,255 --> 01:01:13,212
♪ I've waited for you ♪
929
01:01:14,876 --> 01:01:19,788
♪ For so long ♪
930
01:01:19,871 --> 01:01:21,869
♪ Oh-oh ♪
931
01:01:21,953 --> 01:01:24,450
♪ Lady ♪
932
01:01:24,534 --> 01:01:27,156
♪ Lady ♪
933
01:01:28,114 --> 01:01:29,861
♪ Lady ♪
934
01:01:31,236 --> 01:01:32,442
♪ You see, your love ♪
935
01:01:32,526 --> 01:01:37,188
♪ Your love is the only love
that I'll ever need ♪
936
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:41,766
♪ And right here ♪
937
01:01:42,807 --> 01:01:44,888
♪ Right here beside me ♪
938
01:01:45,762 --> 01:01:47,136
♪ Oh, that's where ♪
939
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:53,380
♪ That's where I want you to be
for ever and ever ♪
940
01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:56,169
♪ 'Cause my love ♪
941
01:01:56,751 --> 01:01:59,831
♪ Oh, my love ♪
942
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:02,205
♪ There's something
I want you to know ♪
943
01:02:02,288 --> 01:02:07,241
♪ Something I've just got
to let you know ♪
944
01:02:07,325 --> 01:02:12,195
♪ That you're the love
of my life ♪
945
01:02:32,673 --> 01:02:36,462
We had a little ritual
that we would go to
946
01:02:36,545 --> 01:02:39,251
the basketball game
to see Julius.
947
01:02:42,747 --> 01:02:46,327
Watch the game and sometimes
go out afterwards.
948
01:02:46,410 --> 01:02:48,782
And I said,
"Let's get out of here,"
949
01:02:48,866 --> 01:02:51,114
let's stop at
this little club we knew.
950
01:02:51,197 --> 01:02:56,067
While I was sitting in
the lobby, I saw this person,
951
01:02:56,109 --> 01:02:59,564
and everything she had on
was too revealing.
952
01:02:59,646 --> 01:03:02,601
I saw Teddy again at a club,
953
01:03:02,685 --> 01:03:04,808
the Warwick Hotel
at 17th and Locust.
954
01:03:04,891 --> 01:03:07,265
He was with this girl
named Yvette
955
01:03:07,347 --> 01:03:10,137
and one of Teddy's friends,
Brinkley.
956
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:12,342
And he asked me
did I want a drink.
957
01:03:24,206 --> 01:03:29,492
No, I didn't feel any threat
from any other woman.
958
01:03:29,575 --> 01:03:32,447
Are you kidding me?
959
01:03:32,531 --> 01:03:34,861
Teddy treated me
like a princess.
960
01:03:34,945 --> 01:03:38,816
So he says, "Well,
I'm gonna take one lady home
961
01:03:38,899 --> 01:03:43,229
and then take the other lady
to my house."
962
01:03:48,224 --> 01:03:49,888
Um, he was driving kind of fast
963
01:03:49,972 --> 01:03:54,259
and so I said to him slow down.
964
01:03:54,342 --> 01:03:58,214
Slow down.
And so he slowed down.
965
01:03:59,545 --> 01:04:02,750
He uh... got me home,
walked me to the door,
966
01:04:02,833 --> 01:04:03,874
kissed me good night
967
01:04:03,958 --> 01:04:06,996
and I said, "Make sure you
call me when you get home."
968
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,576
I was wondering why he didn't
drop me off first
969
01:04:10,659 --> 01:04:14,572
'cause I only lived about three,
four blocks from the club.
970
01:04:14,655 --> 01:04:16,819
But I just went along
for the ride.
971
01:04:19,858 --> 01:04:21,024
So on our way back,
972
01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:25,062
the car started
going really, really fast.
973
01:05:20,506 --> 01:05:22,546
Everything got completely quiet.
974
01:05:22,628 --> 01:05:24,877
I didn't know how bad
the car was damaged.
975
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,165
All I know we both were alive
and I was thanking God for that.
976
01:05:28,248 --> 01:05:32,036
And out of nowhere,
a man came up to the car.
977
01:05:48,020 --> 01:05:50,143
Approximately 1:30
in the morning
978
01:05:50,226 --> 01:05:54,556
Engine 19, Ladder 8,
Battalion 9 and Medic 16
979
01:05:54,638 --> 01:05:56,262
were dispatched
to Lincoln Drive.
980
01:05:58,218 --> 01:06:02,090
Lincoln Drive is a notorious
section of highway
981
01:06:02,172 --> 01:06:03,963
where there's
a lot of accidents.
982
01:06:04,046 --> 01:06:07,917
Slick conditions,
a lot of switchbacks.
983
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,207
Many people drive too quickly
984
01:06:09,290 --> 01:06:13,245
so there's frequently accidents;
sometimes very bad accidents.
985
01:06:13,328 --> 01:06:16,950
We arrive on scene
and we have a Rolls-Royce
986
01:06:17,033 --> 01:06:18,823
into a couple of trees.
987
01:06:47,419 --> 01:06:50,500
The passenger, Tenika Watson,
988
01:06:50,583 --> 01:06:51,582
seemed uninjured.
989
01:06:51,664 --> 01:06:55,911
The driver had been thrown
into the back seat.
990
01:07:01,322 --> 01:07:04,152
We put him on a spine board
991
01:07:04,235 --> 01:07:06,150
and removed him from the car.
992
01:07:07,524 --> 01:07:09,272
They got us out of it
993
01:07:09,355 --> 01:07:11,936
and I was thinking
maybe I can get away from here
994
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:16,681
but when I got out
Teddy whispered, he said,
995
01:07:16,765 --> 01:07:19,137
"Don't leave me,
don't let them hurt me."
996
01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:21,634
And I was like, "Who is they?"
997
01:07:21,718 --> 01:07:23,841
It was like a fear
came over him.
998
01:07:23,924 --> 01:07:25,339
I don't know why he said it,
999
01:07:25,423 --> 01:07:28,336
but it kind of made me
nervous too, like,
1000
01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:30,043
"Who wants to hurt you?"
1001
01:07:53,644 --> 01:07:56,475
Everybody knew who he was.
1002
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:01,512
I intubated him myself
to make sure that his airway
1003
01:08:01,595 --> 01:08:03,218
was established safely
1004
01:08:03,301 --> 01:08:07,131
without damaging
that wonderful voice.
1005
01:08:07,964 --> 01:08:10,294
My mother called me.
1006
01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:11,960
What they had heard on the news
1007
01:08:12,042 --> 01:08:13,749
was that there was a girl
in the car with Ted
1008
01:08:13,833 --> 01:08:16,788
and everybody thought it was me.
1009
01:08:16,871 --> 01:08:19,993
You know, you're just like
in shock for a moment
1010
01:08:20,076 --> 01:08:24,072
and, you know,
you just have to sit still,
1011
01:08:24,155 --> 01:08:25,821
say, "What do I do?"
1012
01:08:28,651 --> 01:08:30,441
I get out of the cab
1013
01:08:30,525 --> 01:08:32,231
and go through
the hospital revolving door
1014
01:08:32,314 --> 01:08:36,018
and the doctors are already
doing a press conference.
1015
01:08:36,102 --> 01:08:38,891
We don't know the answer
because only time will tell us.
1016
01:08:38,974 --> 01:08:41,013
Only time will tell
the neurosurgeon.
1017
01:08:41,097 --> 01:08:43,928
He has some limitation
of movement in his arms.
1018
01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:47,091
He is able to move parts
of his arms.
1019
01:08:47,174 --> 01:08:50,629
We can't define it any more
than that because it's uh...
1020
01:08:50,712 --> 01:08:54,334
- It's not stable at the moment.
- Not his hands?
1021
01:08:54,417 --> 01:08:55,375
He broke his neck.
1022
01:08:55,458 --> 01:08:59,787
If you think of
the spinal column as a tube,
1023
01:08:59,912 --> 01:09:03,200
if you tear it
and then shift it,
1024
01:09:03,283 --> 01:09:06,738
whatever's running through
the middle gets squished.
1025
01:09:06,780 --> 01:09:10,651
Once a certain level of damage
1026
01:09:10,734 --> 01:09:15,104
has happened to the spine
and it's unrecoverable...
1027
01:09:16,603 --> 01:09:19,642
I got off the elevator
and Karen and the doctor
1028
01:09:19,725 --> 01:09:22,306
and Mrs. Pendergrass were there.
1029
01:09:22,389 --> 01:09:26,010
And, um, they took me in a
room, they said, "Listen, um,
1030
01:09:26,093 --> 01:09:29,715
Teddy's not gonna walk again.
1031
01:09:29,798 --> 01:09:33,836
We're going in the room now
to tell him." And I... Whoa.
1032
01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:36,042
I went in.
Teddy was lying on a table.
1033
01:09:38,123 --> 01:09:39,663
Strapped down.
1034
01:09:39,747 --> 01:09:42,744
He was crying a lot,
he was very upset.
1035
01:09:42,827 --> 01:09:46,490
And I almost fainted there
in the room. I mean, I had to...
1036
01:09:46,574 --> 01:09:49,446
I had to sit down on the floor
because it just...
1037
01:09:49,529 --> 01:09:51,110
You don't think
it will ever happen
1038
01:09:51,193 --> 01:09:54,316
until reality sets in
and just seeing him that way,
1039
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:56,022
I was pretty woozy.
1040
01:09:56,105 --> 01:10:00,059
His eyes were closed
and it was the weirdest thing.
1041
01:10:00,143 --> 01:10:02,308
He heard us come in and sort of
opened his eyes and...
1042
01:10:02,391 --> 01:10:07,136
The doctor said, "Can you hear
us? If you can, blink once."
1043
01:10:07,219 --> 01:10:08,302
And he blinked.
1044
01:10:08,385 --> 01:10:13,338
And, um, we told him
that he would never walk again,
1045
01:10:13,422 --> 01:10:15,836
and that he had to start
his rehabilitation,
1046
01:10:15,918 --> 01:10:17,167
but he was gonna live,
1047
01:10:17,251 --> 01:10:19,956
and we were gonna
get through this with him.
1048
01:10:20,831 --> 01:10:22,787
And that was rough.
1049
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:26,367
It was the toughest moment
I've...
1050
01:10:28,031 --> 01:10:31,736
Yeah. That was tough.
1051
01:10:38,105 --> 01:10:43,141
I pulled myself together
and you couldn't move him
1052
01:10:43,225 --> 01:10:47,513
because he was pinned in
and you couldn't get...
1053
01:10:47,596 --> 01:10:49,010
So the back of his head,
1054
01:10:49,094 --> 01:10:53,131
I just ran my finger
under his hair like that.
1055
01:10:54,879 --> 01:10:58,168
And that was satisfaction
to him.
1056
01:11:02,081 --> 01:11:05,078
We were doing a show
in Charlotte
1057
01:11:05,161 --> 01:11:07,908
and I went to bed early
so I could get up.
1058
01:11:07,991 --> 01:11:10,031
We had to be at the airport
six o'clock in the morning
1059
01:11:10,114 --> 01:11:13,819
and four o'clock
in the morning the phone rang.
1060
01:11:13,902 --> 01:11:16,317
They said, "Turn on the radio,
turn on the radio."
1061
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,273
So I turned on the radio
1062
01:11:18,357 --> 01:11:20,604
and then that's how we heard
what had happened.
1063
01:11:20,687 --> 01:11:25,225
They said Teddy Pendergrass
was in a very bad accident,
1064
01:11:25,308 --> 01:11:28,638
was paralyzed
from the waist down.
1065
01:11:28,721 --> 01:11:32,510
It was like,
you got to be joking, you know.
1066
01:11:32,593 --> 01:11:35,838
- I couldn't believe it.
- Unbelievable.
1067
01:11:35,922 --> 01:11:39,752
You know, it's like, so I um...
1068
01:11:44,456 --> 01:11:48,452
I called Henry and said,
"Teddy was in a car accident?"
1069
01:11:48,535 --> 01:11:50,823
He said,
"Yeah, we're gonna leave later
1070
01:11:50,907 --> 01:11:52,114
because I don't know how..."
1071
01:11:52,198 --> 01:11:53,530
None of us knew it was that bad.
1072
01:11:53,613 --> 01:11:55,611
- That serious.
- None of us knew it.
1073
01:11:55,694 --> 01:11:59,981
And he called back later and
said we're not going anywhere.
1074
01:12:00,023 --> 01:12:02,811
- And I was like, wow.
- We never went anywhere again.
1075
01:12:02,895 --> 01:12:07,724
♪ But those days are gone ♪
1076
01:12:07,806 --> 01:12:11,304
♪ Don't leave me ♪
1077
01:12:11,387 --> 01:12:16,466
♪ Here alone ♪
1078
01:12:18,130 --> 01:12:23,624
♪ So I'm standing here,
standing here ♪
1079
01:12:24,623 --> 01:12:29,411
♪ All by myself ♪
1080
01:12:30,076 --> 01:12:33,073
♪ Don't wanna be ♪
1081
01:12:34,406 --> 01:12:39,025
♪ All by myself anymore ♪
1082
01:12:40,275 --> 01:12:42,896
He had everything he wanted.
1083
01:12:42,980 --> 01:12:45,935
He thought
he was indestructible.
1084
01:12:46,018 --> 01:12:50,181
But then most young men
of that age,
1085
01:12:50,265 --> 01:12:53,470
you have a certain amount
of fame and money,
1086
01:12:53,554 --> 01:12:55,093
you think nothing
can happen to you.
1087
01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:59,838
And what happened to him
was the cruelest of all
1088
01:12:59,921 --> 01:13:02,420
because he became a prisoner
in his own self.
1089
01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:06,623
♪ All by ♪
1090
01:13:11,742 --> 01:13:16,114
♪ My ♪
1091
01:13:17,488 --> 01:13:22,690
♪ Self ♪
1092
01:13:26,811 --> 01:13:32,056
♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
1093
01:13:34,471 --> 01:13:36,177
Thank you.
1094
01:13:36,260 --> 01:13:41,630
♪ You will never, never, never
know me ♪
1095
01:13:44,668 --> 01:13:49,164
I was 11 years old, sixth grade,
1096
01:13:49,247 --> 01:13:54,824
and watching my teacher
sob and cry.
1097
01:13:54,908 --> 01:13:59,778
I never saw anyone, especially
black people, this devastated.
1098
01:14:00,902 --> 01:14:03,108
They weren't going to school.
1099
01:14:03,192 --> 01:14:05,730
Oh, God, we were next door
to Philly International.
1100
01:14:05,855 --> 01:14:08,103
Everybody was devastated.
1101
01:14:11,517 --> 01:14:14,389
- We were in Jamaica.
- We were in Jamaica.
1102
01:14:14,473 --> 01:14:17,553
Writing songs for him
for his next album.
1103
01:14:19,217 --> 01:14:21,507
Yeah. That was a sad day.
1104
01:14:21,591 --> 01:14:23,712
All day, the talk on the street
was about Teddy.
1105
01:14:23,795 --> 01:14:26,044
I really liked him.
1106
01:14:26,127 --> 01:14:29,124
I thought he was really
a good singer and a good man.
1107
01:14:29,207 --> 01:14:30,373
Really sorry.
1108
01:14:30,457 --> 01:14:31,787
I just hope he sings again,
that's all.
1109
01:14:31,871 --> 01:14:34,536
I'm praying for him a lot
1110
01:14:34,618 --> 01:14:38,032
and I hope for a speedy
recovery because he is my man.
1111
01:14:38,115 --> 01:14:39,323
Steady Teddy.
1112
01:14:44,109 --> 01:14:47,064
He had been drinking
1113
01:14:47,148 --> 01:14:49,853
but he wasn't intoxicated. No.
1114
01:14:49,936 --> 01:14:53,350
I would not have allowed him
to drive me
1115
01:14:53,434 --> 01:14:55,390
in his car
if he had been drunk.
1116
01:14:55,473 --> 01:14:58,220
They didn't
find anything in his system.
1117
01:14:58,304 --> 01:15:01,674
They didn't say he had drugs
in him. I didn't.
1118
01:15:01,757 --> 01:15:06,129
He had had trouble with that car
ever since he bought it.
1119
01:15:06,212 --> 01:15:07,545
It had no brakes.
1120
01:15:07,626 --> 01:15:10,832
A lot of people
believed that this accident
1121
01:15:10,915 --> 01:15:14,037
was a setup to get rid of him.
1122
01:15:14,121 --> 01:15:17,658
I think the car
was sabotaged, I think it was.
1123
01:15:17,741 --> 01:15:19,656
Because of other cars
that he had.
1124
01:15:19,739 --> 01:15:21,155
I mean, every car that you have,
1125
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:24,361
something's gonna happen
to the car? Really?
1126
01:15:24,444 --> 01:15:26,359
He pulled his Corvette out
one day
1127
01:15:26,442 --> 01:15:28,065
and the brake lines were cut.
1128
01:15:28,148 --> 01:15:32,851
He had a Mercedes, 450 SL,
brake lines were cut.
1129
01:15:32,935 --> 01:15:35,599
A friend
said it was an organization
1130
01:15:35,682 --> 01:15:38,222
that wanted to kidnap him
for ransom
1131
01:15:38,305 --> 01:15:41,094
so all types of things
were happening.
1132
01:15:41,177 --> 01:15:44,341
He didn't know who his friends
were or who his enemies were.
1133
01:15:44,424 --> 01:15:48,669
I don't put anything past
show business during that time
1134
01:15:48,752 --> 01:15:51,666
in Philadelphia.
1135
01:15:51,749 --> 01:15:55,163
♪ He's my man ♪
1136
01:15:55,247 --> 01:15:56,162
He lived a big life
1137
01:15:56,246 --> 01:15:59,034
and he had really used up
most of his funds.
1138
01:15:59,117 --> 01:16:01,864
- More?
- ♪ Girls, let me turn you on ♪
1139
01:16:01,948 --> 01:16:03,737
♪ To the big Bull buzz ♪
1140
01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:05,028
♪ One sip will make you
1141
01:16:05,111 --> 01:16:07,775
♪ It's got more taste
than beer ♪
1142
01:16:07,858 --> 01:16:11,771
We had a very large beer
company that sponsored Teddy.
1143
01:16:11,854 --> 01:16:12,811
I told them
what happened to Teddy
1144
01:16:12,895 --> 01:16:15,101
and we were
gonna have to cancel
1145
01:16:15,185 --> 01:16:18,764
and would they put together
an endowment for the kids,
1146
01:16:18,847 --> 01:16:21,512
and they said, "Yes,
we'll definitely do something.
1147
01:16:21,595 --> 01:16:24,009
We'll do some kind of a fund,
1148
01:16:24,092 --> 01:16:25,840
some kind
of charitable donation."
1149
01:16:25,924 --> 01:16:27,256
Then I woke up in the morning
1150
01:16:27,340 --> 01:16:31,211
and the newspaper said
the girl in the car was a guy.
1151
01:16:31,294 --> 01:16:35,373
And I knew I'd never hear
from the beer company again!
1152
01:16:35,457 --> 01:16:37,330
There was a police lady
1153
01:16:37,413 --> 01:16:40,867
and she said that she had
arrested me before.
1154
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:44,905
And she knew my past, that's
how I got into the paper.
1155
01:16:51,482 --> 01:16:55,145
Everybody
believed it was a woman.
1156
01:16:55,228 --> 01:16:57,018
She was striking.
1157
01:16:57,101 --> 01:17:00,805
I wouldn't dispute
how impressive she looked.
1158
01:17:00,889 --> 01:17:03,304
And my assumption was,
knowing Teddy,
1159
01:17:03,387 --> 01:17:06,050
that he was driving with her,
1160
01:17:06,134 --> 01:17:07,965
put his hand down
between her legs,
1161
01:17:08,048 --> 01:17:11,421
felt the penis
and had the accident.
1162
01:17:11,503 --> 01:17:15,208
I started hormones
when I came to Philadelphia.
1163
01:17:15,292 --> 01:17:19,495
And five years after I started
hormones I had my surgery.
1164
01:17:19,579 --> 01:17:22,201
That was 1977. I'm a woman.
1165
01:17:22,285 --> 01:17:27,862
I've been a woman, completely
a woman, for 40 years now.
1166
01:17:27,945 --> 01:17:30,984
So my whole theory
went right out the window.
1167
01:17:31,067 --> 01:17:34,439
♪ I used to have
lots of money ♪
1168
01:17:35,438 --> 01:17:37,519
♪ I had 'em in big old stacks ♪
1169
01:17:37,601 --> 01:17:40,516
We needed to generate
money for his family.
1170
01:17:40,599 --> 01:17:41,598
I sat through hundreds
of tapes
1171
01:17:41,681 --> 01:17:44,470
and we found tapes that
hadn't been released.
1172
01:17:44,554 --> 01:17:47,093
Unfortunately,
in every case, um...
1173
01:17:47,176 --> 01:17:51,712
his partners in those records
who had the power
1174
01:17:51,796 --> 01:17:54,002
chose not to pay him.
1175
01:17:54,086 --> 01:17:57,748
♪ All the things I wanted ♪
1176
01:17:57,832 --> 01:18:00,372
♪ I don't have anymore ♪
1177
01:18:00,454 --> 01:18:02,910
When one person is your company
1178
01:18:02,993 --> 01:18:04,950
and he pays everybody
1179
01:18:05,033 --> 01:18:08,530
and then something happens
to him, everything goes down.
1180
01:18:08,571 --> 01:18:10,153
Shep stayed with him.
1181
01:18:10,237 --> 01:18:12,900
You know, the record labels,
they left, you know.
1182
01:18:12,983 --> 01:18:13,941
Everyone else left.
1183
01:18:14,024 --> 01:18:16,646
The people that really cared
about him stayed.
1184
01:18:16,729 --> 01:18:18,395
And that was few.
1185
01:18:20,892 --> 01:18:24,348
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1186
01:18:31,091 --> 01:18:35,087
♪ Happy birthday, dear Teddy ♪
1187
01:18:36,751 --> 01:18:39,124
I'm primarily an opera singer.
1188
01:18:39,208 --> 01:18:42,912
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1189
01:18:42,995 --> 01:18:47,283
Teddy had a big problem
but it could have been worse.
1190
01:18:48,531 --> 01:18:51,029
If it had been a little higher,
1191
01:18:51,112 --> 01:18:53,235
he would not have been able
to breathe
1192
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:57,190
and would have been tracheotomy
and respirator dependent.
1193
01:19:49,054 --> 01:19:53,550
He would just be quiet
and keep to himself, you know?
1194
01:19:53,632 --> 01:19:57,504
He had a sad look on his face
and people had to feed him
1195
01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:03,165
and he was just sitting there.
1196
01:20:03,249 --> 01:20:07,203
He was paralyzed forever and I
didn't want him to be like that.
1197
01:20:08,119 --> 01:20:11,490
I wanted it to be like
the old times.
1198
01:20:11,573 --> 01:20:15,486
He said if I
want to commit suicide, I
couldn't.
1199
01:20:15,569 --> 01:20:17,650
And I realized he was correct.
1200
01:20:17,733 --> 01:20:20,689
I didn't think about it
until after. He couldn't.
1201
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:24,228
He couldn't.
1202
01:20:26,101 --> 01:20:27,974
He was very depressed.
1203
01:20:28,057 --> 01:20:30,762
He had sleeping pills to take
to sleep at night,
1204
01:20:30,845 --> 01:20:32,760
and he would ask me to give him
1205
01:20:32,843 --> 01:20:35,383
all the sleeping pills
and I was like, "No. No way."
1206
01:20:35,466 --> 01:20:37,422
You know, we cried,
and we boo-hooed,
1207
01:20:37,506 --> 01:20:41,044
and I tried to read the Bible
and make sense of all this,
1208
01:20:41,127 --> 01:20:44,083
and he kept saying, "I will
never be able to walk again."
1209
01:20:44,166 --> 01:20:47,537
And I said, "But you're alive."
1210
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:51,450
♪ Is this my beginning? ♪
1211
01:20:51,533 --> 01:20:53,864
♪ Or is this the end? ♪
1212
01:20:53,948 --> 01:20:57,777
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1213
01:20:57,860 --> 01:21:01,232
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1214
01:21:01,315 --> 01:21:03,189
♪ Sweet, sweet love ♪
1215
01:21:03,271 --> 01:21:05,519
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1216
01:21:05,602 --> 01:21:08,516
Dr. Gottlieb, God thank you.
1217
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,138
Dr. Gottlieb
got in touch with him
1218
01:21:12,221 --> 01:21:16,467
and told him,
"No, Teddy, don't give up."
1219
01:21:19,339 --> 01:21:22,835
I have a visceral reaction
1220
01:21:22,919 --> 01:21:25,083
when I hear things like that.
1221
01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:28,580
My heart breaks
1222
01:21:28,662 --> 01:21:32,326
and it did for him
because I knew
1223
01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:36,696
where he came from and where
he was going to end up.
1224
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:39,569
To be honest with you,
1225
01:21:39,693 --> 01:21:43,107
it was just a few years
after my accident.
1226
01:21:45,937 --> 01:21:48,893
I knew
what he was going through.
1227
01:21:48,976 --> 01:21:54,013
But I was also in the depths
of my depression,
1228
01:21:55,969 --> 01:22:01,047
and at the deepest level,
1229
01:22:01,131 --> 01:22:06,250
saving his life
felt like saving my own.
1230
01:22:07,499 --> 01:22:11,828
And an average therapist
1231
01:22:11,911 --> 01:22:12,702
who had these feelings
1232
01:22:12,785 --> 01:22:16,365
would not treat that patient.
1233
01:22:16,448 --> 01:22:18,446
Probably shouldn't have.
1234
01:22:19,945 --> 01:22:21,069
But this was different.
1235
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,353
There were no
quadriplegic therapists.
1236
01:22:28,436 --> 01:22:31,101
I was the only one around.
1237
01:22:33,265 --> 01:22:35,179
He finally decided
1238
01:22:35,263 --> 01:22:39,051
that he was gonna
to take his life.
1239
01:22:39,134 --> 01:22:42,381
But I said to him,
"Teddy," I said,
1240
01:22:42,464 --> 01:22:43,712
"if you're going to do this,
1241
01:22:43,796 --> 01:22:48,166
you have a moral obligation
1242
01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:52,080
to talk with your mother,
Karen and your son
1243
01:22:52,162 --> 01:22:54,868
about this decision."
1244
01:22:54,952 --> 01:22:58,198
And he agreed. They all came in.
1245
01:22:58,281 --> 01:23:00,530
We had a family session.
1246
01:23:01,029 --> 01:23:03,776
They all cried.
1247
01:23:03,859 --> 01:23:07,439
They all understandably
tried to talk him out of it.
1248
01:23:07,523 --> 01:23:11,310
They begged him,
especially his poor son.
1249
01:23:11,643 --> 01:23:13,808
Um...
1250
01:23:13,891 --> 01:23:18,303
And he didn't cry
in that session.
1251
01:23:20,134 --> 01:23:21,175
Um, which is more troubling.
1252
01:23:23,173 --> 01:23:25,879
So at the end of the session
Teddy says,
1253
01:23:25,962 --> 01:23:28,502
"I probably
won't see you again."
1254
01:23:29,125 --> 01:23:32,164
And I heard that word.
1255
01:23:32,622 --> 01:23:35,037
"Probably."
1256
01:23:35,119 --> 01:23:39,240
And I said, "Teddy,"
1257
01:23:39,324 --> 01:23:42,154
I said,
"Get your ass back in here."
1258
01:23:42,237 --> 01:23:45,734
So he came in. I said,
"What do you mean, probably?"
1259
01:23:45,817 --> 01:23:49,646
And that's when I made
the proposal to him.
1260
01:23:49,730 --> 01:23:55,516
I said, "We're gonna
stage a funeral for you
1261
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,596
so you'll know
what it's like for them."
1262
01:23:59,678 --> 01:24:03,924
Little Teddy, Mom,
1263
01:24:04,008 --> 01:24:05,214
myself and Teddy
1264
01:24:05,298 --> 01:24:08,004
had to invite all of the people
we felt, you know,
1265
01:24:08,086 --> 01:24:11,750
were our closest friends,
family, whoever.
1266
01:24:11,833 --> 01:24:13,748
And he put a sheet over Teddy.
1267
01:24:13,831 --> 01:24:15,704
And he said, "OK, you're dead."
1268
01:24:15,787 --> 01:24:19,117
And he said,
"You can't say anything,"
1269
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:21,948
and one by one
we had to walk up
1270
01:24:22,031 --> 01:24:24,237
and express to Teddy
1271
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,649
what we felt about him taking...
about him being dead.
1272
01:24:28,733 --> 01:24:32,396
Our job was to tell him...
1273
01:24:33,811 --> 01:24:37,391
how we feel about him and what
life would be like without him.
1274
01:24:37,474 --> 01:24:42,011
I remember a lot of
people being mad, angry, hurt,
1275
01:24:42,094 --> 01:24:45,049
because everybody felt that
he had so much to live for.
1276
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:48,255
And they took that sheet
off of his face.
1277
01:24:48,338 --> 01:24:53,417
And Teddy sat up in that chair
and said, "I don't wanna die."
1278
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:55,248
He said, "I want to live."
1279
01:24:55,331 --> 01:24:57,538
I don't know what
that did to him
1280
01:24:57,620 --> 01:25:01,200
but death was not even
a question after that.
1281
01:25:22,970 --> 01:25:25,468
He was determined
to be able to sing.
1282
01:25:25,551 --> 01:25:30,421
Everybody with whom
he consulted except for me,
1283
01:25:30,505 --> 01:25:32,710
told him it was impossible.
1284
01:25:36,623 --> 01:25:40,702
A couple of months after
it happened, I tried singing.
1285
01:25:40,786 --> 01:25:42,284
I was scared to death.
1286
01:25:42,368 --> 01:25:44,491
And I remember
it was in the afternoon,
1287
01:25:44,574 --> 01:25:46,197
there was a coffee commercial.
1288
01:25:52,899 --> 01:25:57,227
And I said, "You know,
there's... Doggone it, you know?
1289
01:25:57,311 --> 01:25:58,934
It's a possibility, yeah.
1290
01:25:59,017 --> 01:26:01,723
You know,
if given the opportunity,
1291
01:26:01,806 --> 01:26:03,221
yeah, we can do this."
1292
01:26:03,305 --> 01:26:07,217
I thought it was unlikely that
he was going to be able to sing
1293
01:26:07,301 --> 01:26:10,714
fully the same way
that he had before.
1294
01:26:10,797 --> 01:26:12,129
But that we would get him
singing again
1295
01:26:12,212 --> 01:26:15,585
and then he would have
to decide whether that was
1296
01:26:15,667 --> 01:26:18,997
a good enough sound
to go back into the studio
1297
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,455
and to go out in public.
1298
01:26:20,538 --> 01:26:24,200
So the next thing I did was get
a hold of all the video tapes
1299
01:26:24,284 --> 01:26:27,197
that I could to study his voice
and his technique
1300
01:26:27,281 --> 01:26:31,527
and find out what we were
trying to restore.
1301
01:26:31,610 --> 01:26:36,022
♪ Taking the bumps and the
bruises and all the things ♪
1302
01:26:36,105 --> 01:26:39,185
♪ Of a two-time loser ♪
1303
01:26:39,311 --> 01:26:42,640
♪ Trying to hold on,
faith is gone ♪
1304
01:26:42,724 --> 01:26:44,598
♪ It's just another sad song ♪
1305
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,429
It's not a coincidence
1306
01:26:46,512 --> 01:26:48,634
that Teddy Pendergrass's
accident
1307
01:26:48,718 --> 01:26:51,715
and the slow, quiet fade-out
of Philly International
1308
01:26:51,798 --> 01:26:55,253
happened at the same time.
1309
01:26:55,336 --> 01:26:56,751
Yeah, they've had hits
with Patti LaBelle
1310
01:26:56,835 --> 01:27:00,373
and The O'Jays, you know, since,
1311
01:27:00,456 --> 01:27:04,202
but it wasn't quite the same.
1312
01:27:04,286 --> 01:27:06,075
- It wasn't the same.
- No, it wasn't the same.
1313
01:27:06,158 --> 01:27:08,115
- The company wasn't the same.
- No.
1314
01:27:08,198 --> 01:27:11,861
It was very difficult because
1315
01:27:11,944 --> 01:27:16,107
the Kenny and Leon record label
was distributed by CBS.
1316
01:27:16,190 --> 01:27:20,852
And there was a lot of fighting
back and forth.
1317
01:27:20,893 --> 01:27:24,266
With the accident
and not being able to secure
1318
01:27:24,349 --> 01:27:25,888
another deal with CBS Records,
1319
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:30,510
time had run out. For everybody.
1320
01:27:30,593 --> 01:27:33,756
Your record company
left, they walked away, right?
1321
01:27:33,839 --> 01:27:37,044
So long, you can't do it for us
anymore, goodbye.
1322
01:27:37,127 --> 01:27:38,418
That must have hurt.
1323
01:27:38,502 --> 01:27:41,997
Tremendously. Tremendously.
1324
01:27:42,081 --> 01:27:45,702
It was depressing how people
1325
01:27:45,786 --> 01:27:51,197
thinking he had no career left
just were completely uh...
1326
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,778
without compassion.
1327
01:27:53,860 --> 01:27:57,358
'Cause they thought everything
was in the past, not the future.
1328
01:27:57,441 --> 01:27:59,481
♪ It's just another sad song ♪
1329
01:27:59,564 --> 01:28:02,186
I hoped that
he'd be able to sing again
1330
01:28:02,269 --> 01:28:05,225
and Teddy was very determined.
1331
01:28:05,308 --> 01:28:09,513
♪ 'Cause it looks like
to me another ♪
1332
01:28:10,968 --> 01:28:13,882
Teddy's vocal cords were fine
1333
01:28:13,965 --> 01:28:18,295
but the vocal cords are only
a small part of the voice.
1334
01:28:18,378 --> 01:28:19,918
You have to blow through it
1335
01:28:20,001 --> 01:28:23,706
and you do that with the air
in your lungs
1336
01:28:23,789 --> 01:28:27,203
controlled by the muscles of
your chest and abdomen and back.
1337
01:28:27,286 --> 01:28:32,072
♪ Ohh... ♪
1338
01:28:33,489 --> 01:28:35,236
Teddy couldn't do that.
1339
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:39,524
♪ Oh, love me ♪
1340
01:28:39,607 --> 01:28:41,605
Shep Gordon,
Teddy's manager, called me
1341
01:28:41,688 --> 01:28:45,351
and told me what had happened
at his previous record company.
1342
01:28:45,435 --> 01:28:50,180
They were unsure about going
forward with Teddy Pendergrass.
1343
01:28:50,263 --> 01:28:54,717
I was not really aware of how
serious Teddy's problems were.
1344
01:28:54,799 --> 01:28:56,048
I had heard the rumors.
1345
01:28:56,132 --> 01:28:58,380
I asked Shep,
"Shep, what is the truth?"
1346
01:28:58,464 --> 01:29:01,252
He told me what the truth is.
I said, "I am in."
1347
01:29:01,335 --> 01:29:05,582
Teddy had some
residual arm fluxion.
1348
01:29:05,664 --> 01:29:09,035
He was able to use his biceps.
1349
01:29:09,618 --> 01:29:11,700
So we created for him
1350
01:29:11,824 --> 01:29:15,612
a belt-like apparatus
that went around his waist
1351
01:29:15,737 --> 01:29:18,734
so when he needed more support
for his singing voice,
1352
01:29:18,817 --> 01:29:20,400
he flexed his arms
1353
01:29:20,483 --> 01:29:24,603
and everything around
his abdomen and back tightened
1354
01:29:24,687 --> 01:29:26,060
and he was able to sing again.
1355
01:29:26,144 --> 01:29:29,558
This is his first
live television interview
1356
01:29:29,682 --> 01:29:32,054
since the car he was driving
crashed 26 months ago.
1357
01:29:32,138 --> 01:29:33,387
He was left paralyzed.
1358
01:29:33,470 --> 01:29:37,632
Teddy got his voice back
and he regained some strength.
1359
01:29:37,715 --> 01:29:41,462
I have accomplished something
that um...
1360
01:29:41,546 --> 01:29:45,624
was at first unsure
that I'd be able to do.
1361
01:29:45,707 --> 01:29:48,080
People would say,
"Oh, the guy's dead, he's gone.
1362
01:29:48,163 --> 01:29:51,618
He won't be back. That's it
for him. Wash-out. He's gone."
1363
01:29:51,701 --> 01:29:54,032
And I set out to prove
1364
01:29:54,116 --> 01:29:58,777
that nobody will determine
when I'm done but me.
1365
01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:02,441
I went back to Bob Krasnow and I
said I think we can do an album.
1366
01:30:04,106 --> 01:30:08,684
This album is a product
of two years of thinking.
1367
01:30:08,767 --> 01:30:10,723
I've received a lot of love
1368
01:30:10,807 --> 01:30:13,013
and I hope to give that love
back through my music.
1369
01:30:13,097 --> 01:30:17,009
♪ I'm a tried
and true romantic ♪
1370
01:30:17,093 --> 01:30:21,255
My focus was
I have millions of women
1371
01:30:21,339 --> 01:30:25,418
who love Teddy,
who know about the tragedy.
1372
01:30:25,502 --> 01:30:28,872
They've probably listened
to his old records every day
1373
01:30:28,955 --> 01:30:31,537
for the last three years
and cried,
1374
01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:33,825
and he's now going to speak
to that one person.
1375
01:30:33,909 --> 01:30:37,323
Teddy's going to talk to her.
1376
01:30:37,406 --> 01:30:39,071
♪ In my time ♪
1377
01:30:39,154 --> 01:30:43,649
♪ I've lived and loved
so much ♪
1378
01:30:43,732 --> 01:30:47,645
♪ And through
each high and low ♪
1379
01:30:47,728 --> 01:30:50,268
♪ I've let my heart
be touched ♪
1380
01:30:52,973 --> 01:30:57,760
♪ In my time
there isn't much I've missed ♪
1381
01:30:57,843 --> 01:31:02,381
The words to the song were "I've
never loved like this before."
1382
01:31:02,465 --> 01:31:05,793
Knowing every woman
would start crying immediately.
1383
01:31:05,877 --> 01:31:08,208
♪ I've never loved
like this... ♪
1384
01:31:08,292 --> 01:31:09,914
And we go
to his high-school gymnasium
1385
01:31:09,998 --> 01:31:12,204
and we make
a very conscious decision
1386
01:31:12,288 --> 01:31:16,075
we're gonna show him in the
wheelchair, not gonna hide it.
1387
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,490
♪ In my time ♪
1388
01:31:18,574 --> 01:31:22,860
♪ I've lived and loved
so much ♪
1389
01:31:22,943 --> 01:31:25,857
♪ And through
each high and low ♪
1390
01:31:25,940 --> 01:31:30,228
♪ I've let my heart
be touched ♪
1391
01:31:32,018 --> 01:31:34,889
♪ In my time ♪
1392
01:31:34,973 --> 01:31:37,761
♪ There isn't much I missed ♪
1393
01:31:37,845 --> 01:31:41,092
♪ I've seen love come and go ♪
1394
01:31:41,841 --> 01:31:43,839
♪ But heaven knows ♪
1395
01:31:43,922 --> 01:31:46,546
♪ I've never loved like this ♪
1396
01:31:46,669 --> 01:31:50,208
♪ In my time ♪
1397
01:31:51,747 --> 01:31:52,621
Teddy!
1398
01:31:52,705 --> 01:31:57,034
- We got a surprise for you.
- Holy shit!
1399
01:31:57,118 --> 01:31:58,575
- What is this?
1400
01:31:58,657 --> 01:32:00,490
A little gold record for you.
1401
01:32:00,573 --> 01:32:02,321
Teddy, we're really pleased
1402
01:32:02,405 --> 01:32:04,528
to give you your first
gold record with us
1403
01:32:04,609 --> 01:32:08,524
and we're glad that at least
part of the road to recovery
1404
01:32:08,605 --> 01:32:10,313
is paved in gold. God bless.
1405
01:32:10,397 --> 01:32:14,101
Ah! Thank you. Thank you.
1406
01:32:16,349 --> 01:32:20,594
♪ When the whole world
seems against you ♪
1407
01:32:22,176 --> 01:32:27,711
♪ And your whole life
seems unborn ♪
1408
01:32:27,795 --> 01:32:31,417
♪ When all you ever wanted ♪
1409
01:32:31,501 --> 01:32:33,040
♪ Was a little peace ♪
1410
01:32:33,123 --> 01:32:36,827
♪ I can understand
just how you feel ♪
1411
01:32:36,911 --> 01:32:41,407
♪ Don't let this cold world ♪
1412
01:32:41,491 --> 01:32:44,653
♪ Get you down ♪
1413
01:32:45,985 --> 01:32:48,400
♪ Be strong, hold on ♪
1414
01:32:48,484 --> 01:32:52,603
♪ Don't let this cold world ♪
1415
01:32:52,686 --> 01:32:53,894
♪ Get you down ♪
1416
01:32:53,977 --> 01:32:56,226
♪ Don't let it
get you down... ♪
1417
01:32:56,309 --> 01:32:59,763
Taking performance away from me
was bad enough.
1418
01:32:59,846 --> 01:33:02,885
I'm a performer by heart.
1419
01:33:02,968 --> 01:33:04,758
That's what I've been doing
since I'm two years old.
1420
01:33:04,841 --> 01:33:07,381
Been doing it 32 years.
1421
01:33:07,465 --> 01:33:10,668
So I had to come to grips
with not being able to perform.
1422
01:33:10,752 --> 01:33:13,417
How painful is that for you now?
1423
01:33:13,500 --> 01:33:16,080
I haven't said
that I won't perform.
1424
01:33:16,164 --> 01:33:18,744
At the time I didn't know
whether or not I will or won't.
1425
01:33:18,827 --> 01:33:19,453
I'm still not saying.
1426
01:33:25,363 --> 01:33:29,443
Live Aid got announced
and one of the sites was Philly.
1427
01:33:29,525 --> 01:33:31,024
One song in the middle
of Live Aid
1428
01:33:31,107 --> 01:33:34,479
and it's goose-bump moment
for everybody.
1429
01:33:35,437 --> 01:33:39,016
He was so scared and everybody,
1430
01:33:39,099 --> 01:33:42,013
we were so reassuring of him.
1431
01:33:42,096 --> 01:33:44,676
"Dad, you can do it
and we're so happy for you.
1432
01:33:44,759 --> 01:33:47,673
You can do it, we love you."
1433
01:33:47,756 --> 01:33:50,546
We were like a mini entourage,
mini family entourage.
1434
01:33:50,628 --> 01:33:52,710
We would get behind
and get beside him
1435
01:33:52,793 --> 01:33:54,376
and went out
and a number of artists
1436
01:33:54,459 --> 01:33:58,038
and other entertainers were
excited to see him, see him out.
1437
01:33:58,122 --> 01:34:02,576
You know, he always had
a certain standard,
1438
01:34:02,658 --> 01:34:04,781
and he wanted to continue
that standard
1439
01:34:04,865 --> 01:34:06,322
so of course he was nervous.
1440
01:34:06,406 --> 01:34:08,902
How would people receive him
in the wheelchair?
1441
01:34:08,986 --> 01:34:14,022
Oh, he was nervous,
he was... nervous.
1442
01:34:14,148 --> 01:34:15,355
I was nervous
1443
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:19,101
so I can't imagine
what he was feeling
1444
01:34:19,184 --> 01:34:20,392
but because he was our friend,
1445
01:34:20,474 --> 01:34:23,180
if he thought he was ready
then we thought he was ready.
1446
01:34:23,264 --> 01:34:27,592
Teddy went out
at the bottom of the ramp
1447
01:34:27,675 --> 01:34:29,174
and he was looking really slick.
1448
01:34:29,258 --> 01:34:30,922
But I could see something
was wrong.
1449
01:34:31,005 --> 01:34:32,255
I went over to him and he said,
1450
01:34:32,338 --> 01:34:36,833
"I don't think I can do this.
I can't pull this off.
1451
01:34:36,916 --> 01:34:40,038
I don't think I have the power
to pull it off."
1452
01:34:40,122 --> 01:34:42,618
I said, "Well, we're here,
we've gotta do it."
1453
01:34:42,701 --> 01:34:43,576
And he said, "I don't know."
1454
01:34:43,659 --> 01:34:45,242
I said, "Teddy, I'm wheeling
you out there.
1455
01:34:45,325 --> 01:34:49,238
You don't have to sing
but you're gonna be there."
1456
01:34:49,321 --> 01:34:51,568
Put your hands together
1457
01:34:51,651 --> 01:34:54,565
and give a big round
of applause
1458
01:34:54,648 --> 01:34:56,979
to Mr. Teddy Pendergrass!
1459
01:35:04,056 --> 01:35:06,636
When he rolled himself out,
1460
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:08,926
I remember it was almost
like choreographed,
1461
01:35:09,009 --> 01:35:11,091
we kind of backed away from him.
1462
01:35:11,174 --> 01:35:14,171
And it was such a long applause.
1463
01:35:14,254 --> 01:35:16,751
More applause
than I've ever heard in my life.
1464
01:35:24,577 --> 01:35:27,574
Oh, listen, Ashford,
thank you so much.
1465
01:35:30,238 --> 01:35:32,902
When he rolled out
on that stage,
1466
01:35:32,985 --> 01:35:35,108
everybody just cried.
1467
01:35:35,192 --> 01:35:37,897
We just lost it
1468
01:35:37,980 --> 01:35:40,977
but it was like a happy time.
1469
01:35:41,061 --> 01:35:42,226
We were so proud of him.
1470
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:44,099
I am truly grateful
to be here today...
1471
01:35:48,012 --> 01:35:50,343
and I want you to know
I feel your love.
1472
01:35:52,216 --> 01:35:56,587
Very glad to be sharing the
stage with Ashford and Simpson.
1473
01:35:58,959 --> 01:36:02,581
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1474
01:36:03,496 --> 01:36:06,286
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1475
01:36:06,368 --> 01:36:09,116
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1476
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:12,113
- ♪ If you can ♪
1477
01:36:12,196 --> 01:36:15,401
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1478
01:36:15,484 --> 01:36:18,232
♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪
1479
01:36:18,315 --> 01:36:22,311
It was the perfect song
and it was his personal life.
1480
01:36:22,394 --> 01:36:23,976
You know, he was reaching out.
1481
01:36:24,059 --> 01:36:27,597
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1482
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,470
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1483
01:36:29,554 --> 01:36:30,553
♪ Somebody ♪
1484
01:36:30,635 --> 01:36:34,091
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1485
01:36:34,133 --> 01:36:35,880
♪ If you can ♪
1486
01:36:35,964 --> 01:36:38,461
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1487
01:36:38,545 --> 01:36:41,084
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1488
01:36:41,167 --> 01:36:45,413
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1489
01:36:45,538 --> 01:36:48,742
♪ If you can ♪
1490
01:36:50,991 --> 01:36:54,029
♪ Take a little time
from your busy day ♪
1491
01:36:54,113 --> 01:36:56,527
♪ To give encouragement ♪
1492
01:36:56,609 --> 01:36:59,191
♪ To someone
who's lost their way ♪
1493
01:37:01,563 --> 01:37:02,437
♪ Would you do that? ♪
1494
01:37:02,521 --> 01:37:06,641
♪ Or would I be talking
to a stone ♪
1495
01:37:06,724 --> 01:37:09,555
♪ If I asked you
to share a problem ♪
1496
01:37:09,638 --> 01:37:12,053
♪ That's not your own ♪
1497
01:37:12,969 --> 01:37:15,674
♪ Oh, we can change ♪
1498
01:37:15,757 --> 01:37:19,545
♪ If we start giving ♪
1499
01:37:19,628 --> 01:37:22,833
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1500
01:37:22,917 --> 01:37:25,248
♪ Touch somebody... ♪
1501
01:37:25,331 --> 01:37:27,745
He was a man that did suffer,
1502
01:37:27,828 --> 01:37:30,867
and like most of us,
1503
01:37:32,158 --> 01:37:36,320
it's not the suffering, it's how
you deal with the suffering.
1504
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:43,271
And he dealt with it at first
by wanting to die
1505
01:37:43,355 --> 01:37:45,727
and now I watched him
deal with it
1506
01:37:45,810 --> 01:37:50,140
by shifting his outlook
towards life.
1507
01:37:50,223 --> 01:37:54,219
When I seen him on
Live Aid, it was, he's back.
1508
01:37:54,302 --> 01:37:59,796
He's back. Wheelchair
or no wheelchair, he's back.
1509
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,419
- ♪ Oh, we can change things ♪
- ♪ Change things ♪
1510
01:38:02,502 --> 01:38:04,292
- ♪ If we start giving ♪
- ♪ Giving ♪
1511
01:38:04,375 --> 01:38:08,246
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
1512
01:38:08,330 --> 01:38:11,243
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
- ♪ Touch ♪
1513
01:38:11,327 --> 01:38:15,239
- ♪ Somebody's hand ♪
- ♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪
1514
01:38:15,323 --> 01:38:18,195
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1515
01:38:18,278 --> 01:38:21,192
- ♪ If you can ♪
- ♪ Would you reach out ♪
1516
01:38:21,275 --> 01:38:24,355
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
- ♪ Touch somebody's ♪
1517
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:25,604
♪ Somebody's ♪
1518
01:38:25,687 --> 01:38:27,894
♪ Would you touch somebody's ♪
1519
01:38:27,977 --> 01:38:30,058
♪ Touch somebody's ♪
1520
01:38:30,142 --> 01:38:33,221
- ♪ A better place ♪
- ♪ Gotta be a better place ♪
1521
01:38:33,305 --> 01:38:34,803
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1522
01:38:34,887 --> 01:38:37,093
- ♪ Somebody's hand ♪
- ♪ Somebody's ♪
1523
01:38:37,176 --> 01:38:40,755
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1524
01:38:40,839 --> 01:38:45,876
♪ If you can reach out ♪
1525
01:38:45,959 --> 01:38:50,329
♪ And touch ♪
1526
01:38:58,946 --> 01:39:02,234
So many people are afraid
1527
01:39:02,317 --> 01:39:03,525
like if something happens
to them,
1528
01:39:03,607 --> 01:39:08,228
they just give up and he didn't
give up, he was a fighter.
1529
01:39:08,311 --> 01:39:10,934
And we always go,
"Don't we know!"
1530
01:39:11,017 --> 01:39:13,265
So by the time
we got back home,
1531
01:39:13,348 --> 01:39:16,886
his part came on television,
it was now broadcasting
1532
01:39:16,970 --> 01:39:18,385
so we got to see it on TV
1533
01:39:18,426 --> 01:39:22,297
and we're laying there watching
it and he looks at me, said,
1534
01:39:22,381 --> 01:39:25,128
"Why didn't you tell me
I was a blubberbutt?"
1535
01:39:26,460 --> 01:39:30,123
And I'm like, "I didn't even
realize you were that big!"
1536
01:39:30,206 --> 01:39:33,786
So immediately he was like,
"I'm going on a diet."
1537
01:39:39,489 --> 01:39:43,984
Thank you, thank you,
so, so, so, so, so, so.
1538
01:39:45,774 --> 01:39:49,229
Oh, my God! Oh, my God!
1539
01:39:49,312 --> 01:39:51,601
Hey!
1540
01:39:51,684 --> 01:39:56,263
There is a dim
light on all he has accomplished
1541
01:39:56,347 --> 01:39:58,719
and that light
needs to be a lot brighter
1542
01:39:58,803 --> 01:40:00,967
and we need to keep
his legacy alive
1543
01:40:01,051 --> 01:40:02,882
because these
young whippersnappers
1544
01:40:02,965 --> 01:40:04,589
need to see a Teddy Pendergrass
1545
01:40:04,671 --> 01:40:07,919
so they know
how it's supposed to be done.
1546
01:40:08,002 --> 01:40:09,917
We always listened
to his music,
1547
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,290
especially growing up.
1548
01:40:12,539 --> 01:40:14,745
I got to meet
the original band,
1549
01:40:14,828 --> 01:40:16,368
original background singers.
1550
01:40:16,452 --> 01:40:20,281
And they are just like so
humble and they know so much.
1551
01:40:20,364 --> 01:40:23,736
I'm in awe because they were
telling me all these stories.
1552
01:40:23,819 --> 01:40:24,194
I was like, wow.
1553
01:40:25,942 --> 01:40:26,900
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
1554
01:40:26,983 --> 01:40:30,854
♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪
1555
01:40:30,937 --> 01:40:35,724
♪ No more backward thinking,
time for thinking ahead ♪
1556
01:40:35,807 --> 01:40:38,430
♪ The world has changed
so very much ♪
1557
01:40:38,513 --> 01:40:40,927
♪ From what it used to be ♪
1558
01:40:41,011 --> 01:40:42,759
♪ There is so much hatred ♪
1559
01:40:42,842 --> 01:40:46,921
♪ War and poverty ♪
1560
01:40:49,044 --> 01:40:53,081
♪ Ohh... ♪
1561
01:40:53,165 --> 01:40:54,372
♪ Ohh... ♪
1562
01:40:54,456 --> 01:40:56,287
♪ Wake up, all the teachers ♪
1563
01:40:56,370 --> 01:40:58,617
♪ Time to teach a new way ♪
1564
01:40:58,701 --> 01:41:03,572
♪ Maybe then they'll listen
to what you have to say ♪
1565
01:41:03,654 --> 01:41:06,110
♪ 'Cause they're the ones
who's coming up ♪
1566
01:41:06,193 --> 01:41:08,899
♪ And the world
is in their hands ♪
1567
01:41:08,983 --> 01:41:11,105
♪ So when you teach
the children ♪
1568
01:41:11,188 --> 01:41:14,768
♪ Teach 'em
the very best you can ♪
1569
01:41:17,474 --> 01:41:22,011
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1570
01:41:22,094 --> 01:41:25,550
♪ If we just let it be ♪
1571
01:41:27,381 --> 01:41:31,002
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1572
01:41:31,085 --> 01:41:35,581
♪ We gotta change it, yeah,
just you and me ♪
1573
01:41:38,703 --> 01:41:43,448
♪ Wake up, all the doctors,
make the old people well ♪
1574
01:41:43,532 --> 01:41:44,780
♪ 'Cause they're the ones
who suffer ♪
1575
01:41:44,905 --> 01:41:48,360
♪ And who catch all the hell ♪
1576
01:41:48,443 --> 01:41:50,857
♪ 'Cause they don't have
so very long ♪
1577
01:41:50,899 --> 01:41:53,313
♪ Before their judgment day ♪
1578
01:41:53,397 --> 01:41:55,852
♪ So won't you
make them happy ♪
1579
01:41:55,936 --> 01:42:01,222
♪ Before they pass away? ♪
1580
01:42:01,305 --> 01:42:06,300
♪ Wake up, all the builders,
time to build a new land ♪
1581
01:42:06,384 --> 01:42:10,962
♪ I know we can do it
if we all lend a hand ♪
1582
01:42:11,045 --> 01:42:13,793
♪ The only thing
we have to do ♪
1583
01:42:13,876 --> 01:42:15,916
♪ Is put it in our mind ♪
1584
01:42:15,998 --> 01:42:18,288
♪ Surely things will work out ♪
1585
01:42:18,372 --> 01:42:22,117
♪ They do it every time ♪
1586
01:42:24,574 --> 01:42:28,903
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1587
01:42:28,985 --> 01:42:30,901
♪ If we just let it be ♪
1588
01:42:30,983 --> 01:42:34,439
♪ Na-na-na-na na na na ♪
1589
01:42:34,522 --> 01:42:37,769
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1590
01:42:37,810 --> 01:42:41,140
♪ We gotta change it, yeah,
just you and me ♪
1591
01:42:45,886 --> 01:42:47,675
♪ Change it, yeah ♪
1592
01:42:51,005 --> 01:42:51,755
♪ Wake up ♪
1593
01:42:51,838 --> 01:42:55,751
♪ Everybody ♪
1594
01:42:55,834 --> 01:42:57,374
♪ Wake up ♪
1595
01:42:57,458 --> 01:42:59,289
♪ Everybody ♪
1596
01:43:00,787 --> 01:43:01,745
♪ Wake up ♪
1597
01:43:01,828 --> 01:43:05,450
♪ Everybody ♪
1598
01:43:05,533 --> 01:43:07,072
♪ Wake up ♪
1599
01:43:07,156 --> 01:43:09,279
♪ Everybody ♪
1600
01:43:10,528 --> 01:43:12,443
♪ Wake up ♪
1601
01:43:15,106 --> 01:43:16,855
♪ Wake up ♪
1602
01:43:33,171 --> 01:43:37,084
♪ Now wait just a minute,
what is this I see? ♪
1603
01:43:37,167 --> 01:43:41,414
♪ Is that you?
Don't you remember me? ♪
1604
01:43:41,497 --> 01:43:45,243
♪ You're not the same person
that I knew ♪
1605
01:43:45,326 --> 01:43:49,697
♪ So where'd you go?
What'd you do to yourself? ♪
1606
01:43:49,780 --> 01:43:53,609
♪ You were much better
when we used to get down ♪
1607
01:43:53,693 --> 01:43:56,731
♪ Remember then there
was nothing in your sound ♪
1608
01:43:56,815 --> 01:44:00,061
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1609
01:44:00,144 --> 01:44:02,560
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1610
01:44:02,642 --> 01:44:04,307
♪ Oh, I don't know
who you're trying to fool ♪
1611
01:44:04,391 --> 01:44:07,179
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1612
01:44:07,263 --> 01:44:10,925
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1613
01:44:14,047 --> 01:44:18,210
♪ You should be ashamed
of the way you appear ♪
1614
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:21,872
♪ Look at yourself,
don't you give me no tears ♪
1615
01:44:21,956 --> 01:44:26,701
♪ You used to be carefree
and that was your only way ♪
1616
01:44:26,785 --> 01:44:30,822
♪ And now a school teacher,
you try to read a date ♪
1617
01:44:30,905 --> 01:44:34,901
♪ There were times
we rocked all night long ♪
1618
01:44:34,984 --> 01:44:37,981
♪ So don't pretend
that the feeling is gone ♪
1619
01:44:38,065 --> 01:44:40,104
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1620
01:44:40,188 --> 01:44:43,435
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1621
01:44:43,519 --> 01:44:46,806
♪ You know that I know
that you know, yeah, you know ♪
1622
01:44:46,889 --> 01:44:49,304
♪ Girl, you know ♪
1623
01:44:49,387 --> 01:44:51,385
♪ You like
the taste of the wine ♪
1624
01:44:54,632 --> 01:44:56,921
♪ Do it ♪
1625
01:44:57,878 --> 01:45:00,751
♪ The way you used to ♪
1626
01:45:03,540 --> 01:45:05,538
♪ Do it ♪
1627
01:45:05,621 --> 01:45:08,160
♪ The way I remember you ♪
1628
01:45:10,948 --> 01:45:12,531
♪ Oh yeah ♪
1629
01:45:16,817 --> 01:45:19,981
♪ Mm-mm, mm-mm ♪
1630
01:45:23,852 --> 01:45:27,224
♪ You say
you don't recognize your pal ♪
1631
01:45:27,308 --> 01:45:32,303
♪ Afraid I'd tell
you were my good-time gal ♪
1632
01:45:32,386 --> 01:45:35,175
♪ I see you changed,
the image is true ♪
1633
01:45:35,258 --> 01:45:37,796
♪ You don't smoke,
you don't drink ♪
1634
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,085
♪ What else don't you do? ♪
1635
01:45:41,210 --> 01:45:44,748
♪ 'Cause you were the one
who could never get enough ♪
1636
01:45:44,831 --> 01:45:47,911
♪ It was good to you then
so don't you pull no stuff ♪
1637
01:45:47,995 --> 01:45:50,076
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1638
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,199
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1639
01:45:52,283 --> 01:45:55,405
♪ Oh, I don't know
who you're trying to fool ♪
1640
01:45:55,488 --> 01:45:57,236
♪ But I know,
yeah, you know it ♪
1641
01:45:57,319 --> 01:46:02,523
♪ Girl, you know you like
the taste of the wine ♪
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