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Dennis:
The first time I went to the running of the bulls

I had an agreement with
the friends I was with.

Two of my friends would
run the first day,

and myself and another friend

would be on a balcony
above him, filming it,

and the next day
we'd flip roles.

I was filming at La Curva,

a famous 75 degree
turn along the route.

This bull comes
around the corner

and clipped someone in
the back of his leg,

knocks him up into the air.

He drops straight onto his
head,

and immediately he
urinated all over himself.

For all I knew he was dead.

He had eight medics
swarm on him,

trying to help him,
trying to revive him,

trying to ensure that
he could regain consciousness.

It was ugly, but I think
it was good that I saw that,

before I ran for the
first time,

so that I understood
what could happen

on the average day in Pamplona.

My name is Dennis.

I've been running for six years
now with the bulls.

I live in Arizona.

Dennis:
The goal of bull runners,

who run year in and year out,

is to run as long as they can,

right in front
of the horns of the bull.

That's what we call
running on the horns.

You have to be in the
best shape possible,

because you're trying
to maintain speed

in an unpredictable crowd,

in front of a very
dangerous animal.

You never know
what's gonna happen.

So the training
is ensuring that

if, given the right conditions,

you have the prowess
to get a good run.

There's no amount of practice

that's ever gonna keep
you safe.

Even the most
experienced runners

can have an unfortunate day.

Dennis: The running
of the bulls

is a personal struggle
with yourself.

You shut off...

so many parts of your
mind at that point,

to focus on only that
which is most important,

that you find yourself in
this weird mental state,

where you're euphoric,
you're enraged,

you're blissful,
all at the same time.

I want to push the envelope

in terms of what
can be accomplished.

In running, I'm trying to link
multiple sections together,

because I think
to get it would be

just beautiful.

Bill: If it's July 6th,
and I'm not in Pamplona,

or, like, very close to
being in Pamplona,

I'm either in a hospital bed,

a jail cell or a mental ward,

because I mean
that's the only thing

that could keep me
from going to fiesta.

You know, in this modern day,
you think, like,

this cannot happen,
this sort of primal ritual,

cannot take place anymore,
it just...

How can they allow
this to happen?

And I'm just so grateful
that it does exist,

'cause it's changed my life.

I started boxing when I was 15,

and I got lucky,

talking shop with a
really great photographer.

At the end of the night,
I was like,

I was like,
"Who you shootin' for?"

And he's like, "Fight News."

I'm like, "Oh fuck,
I love Fight News, man."

He's like, "You know,
our correspondent just left."

"I'll put in a word for you."

And sure enough,
about a week later,

I was writing for Fight News.

My name's Bill Hillmann.

I'm a construction worker
in Chicago.

I'm a Union laborer.

The one thing in
my life that I love

more than anything
else is my wife.

She's... she's...

She's my everything.

I can't imagine life
without her.

We moved back in
to my parents' home.

The basement's finished,

and so it was a perfect
spot for us to be,

where we can save money.

My whole family's
in construction.

That goes for my uncles,
my father,

and my brothers are carpenters.

Mostly he calls for money.

As a mother,

it's scary.

So if somebody gets
injured at Pamplona,

he'll call and make sure
that we know it's not him.

I think, though, running
with the bulls is just crazy,

especially if you don't
have health insurance.

Do I discourage him?

Not really.

And I have to tell you,
it's like discouraging

your daughter from going
out with a particular boy,

then that's the only boy
they want to go out with.

Sometimes that can
go against you, you know?

My goal every year, in the run,

is to become a better runner.

And to do that
I'mma have to run

on the horns every morning,

and that's my goal every year.

I always fail,

I always fail.
Every year, I fail.

I know I'm gonna fail
this year,

but I'm gonna out there,

and I'm gonna try to run on
the horns every single morning.

Josiah: Hey, I'm Josiah,
I'm from Florida.

My buddy was telling
me about this run tour

that this guy Dennis does,

and found him this
morning and figured

it was a good idea to do it,
on my first time running.

Dennis: So many of the runners
are first time runners,

and it's hard,
your first time, to tell

whether people are running

because there are
bulls behind them,

or are they running just
because they're freaked out?

Until you're off that run
route, you're not safe.

The number one rule
of the run is

if you fall down, stay down.

About five feet from here,
in 1995, American kid,

fell down in the middle
of the route.

He went to go get back up,

and a bull at that time, boom,

put a horn right through him,
and he was dead in no time.

Grown, burly,
tough-looking guys

are gonna scream
like little girls,

and run, like, "Ah!" Just run,
fly past you screaming,

and not just one,
I mean like 30 or 40 of them.

Right now I'm helping
lead the bull run tour,

for the Pamplona Posse.

I try to be there
for the young runners,

you know, try to teach
them as much as I can,

and get 'em ready
for that first run.

So I really get
attached to them too,

'cause I don't wanna see
them go and get hurt.

That's like the worst
thing that could happen,

is one of those guys
go out and get hurt,

and then know that I gave
them all their knowledge.

So I get invested in them,
you know?

And I worry about them,
you know, so...

You just try to get these
people to understand

that this is
extremely dangerous,

and try and get and put
'em in the best position

they could possibly have,

to have a fun run,
an exciting run,

but a run that isn't gonna
be guaranteed dangerous.

My feeling is, as long as
you're running forward,

you're running up the street,

that's when you're safest.

The reason I like this
area is because you can see

right where the bend
is in Santo Domingo.

You can actually tell when
the bull's round that corner.

I have a pretty good gauge
of how long it'll take them

to get to this next
intersection here.

This is a good first place
to run, man.

Just be here at 7:30.

Yeah, it sounds good.

- We'll run it, man.
- All right.

- Hey, nice meeting you.
- Yeah, I'll see you, brother.

Dennis:
We're at Chupinazo right now.

The opening ceremonies
of fiesta.

At noon, everything goes crazy.

And we've crossed over.

We've got our eight runs
we've got to hit this year.

It's gonna be nuts.

This starts it all.

Dennis: It gets to a certain
part of the night,

you have to start
to shift your mind

towards what's gonna
happen in the morning.

At 8:00 a.m.,
they're releasing bulls,

and things can get ugly.

There might be some runners

that make it on the run route
in the morning,

and are drunk.

Hopefully the police
will find them.

The police are combing
through the route

trying to find anyone

who's the least bit inebriated,

so they can throw
them off the route.

The rules of the run
are very simple.

Run in the direction
the bulls are running,

and try not to impede
the animal in any way.

Try not to touch the bull.

You don't want to do anything
that will disturb it,

get it to turn around,

stop it from going
down the route

as quickly, and as
cleanly as possible.

Before the first run they say
a small mass at the cathedral,

and some of the
runners go there.

I see it as an opportunity
to get my head straight,

and think about what
I'm about to do.

- Speaker:
- Crowd:

- Speaker:
- Crowd:

- Let's do this, man. Do this.
- I can't wait.

Just another thing
for you, right?

- Dennis: Yeah.
- Runner: Here we go.

Dennis: Let's have a good run.

Right now we've got a little
bit of rain coming down.

The problem is,
even with the clouds,

the roads get really slimy,

people start
slipping everywhere,

especially the bulls.

If a bull falls down,

it's gonna get
separated from the pack,

it's gonna get ugly.

Announcer: If you're not up
for running, do not run.

For it will dangerous for you
and as well for the others.

Do not run up to the bulls,
nor behind them.

Do not scream, touch
or irritate the bulls.

And please avoid actions

that might direct
their attention towards you.

If you fall down
during the bull run,

put your arms around your head,

and try not to move,

until the herd has
moved on completely.

It was just nuts.

I mean, not only was the bulls,
like, right behind you,

and honestly I was just
booking it, I had no clue.

But just the people
falling in front of you,

and I know I ran over
some people on accident.

Like, straight up,
there was one guy,

I accidentally hit him in the
middle of the shoulder blades,

and I saw him go,
just face first,

like just level straight out.

How do you feel, man?
How was it?

I walked around
for like 10 minutes,

just with nothing
going on in my face,

just blown away by it.

I'm a painter, so
all I do is literally

sit in my cubicle of a room,

and try to think up
hyper-emotional responses

to a canvas.

This, it was like such
a release

as far as like not having
to create something,

but sheer panic,

like, it was the most
I'd felt things in years, dude.

Like it's just unbelievable.

Tomorrow is Miura.

You know the Miura,

the breed, Miura.

No, I have no clue
about those.

You know the horns,

the horns?

It's even bigger than me.

You got the race, you look like.

You all right?
Did you get hit in the...

- He's okay.
- Yeah?

The bull stepped on his elbow.

- Nothing broke?
- No, no.

He will be
able to run tomorrow.

Yeah. Gonna be running
out there like this.

- Yeah, nice meeting you.
- Okay. Nice to meet you.

My name is David Ubeda Flores.

The most important
thing in my life

is my girlfriend and my family.

Whenever I can,
I like to visit them,

especially now that I have
five nieces and nephews.

When I am in Pamplona,

I know they are
watching me on TV,

and I know they are
cheering for me.

I can feel them.

So my dad, every year,
took me to the city

and showed me the running
of the bulls there.

Since I was a kid, maybe
six, five years old,

I've been watching
bulls running,

and I always wanted to
run in front of the bulls.

I was just grabbing here,

and looking for the bulls.

It's very easy for
him to make friends.

That's a fact.

All of our family,
we are known related to him.

So I am David's brother.

He's the father of David,
the mother of David.

Woman: Now I, for me, it's
normal that he goes there.

But, I feel very frightened,

when they're
beginning the running.

Last year when he falls down

in the street,

and the bulls were over him.

One guy who was
trying to get up,

because he just fell...

in front of David,

and I suppose he doesn't know

how to run with the bulls,

so what happened is that he,

he tried to jump over him
but David couldn't.

That was horrible.

I hope this year,

or the years after this,

don't happen anything like that.

To be close to
this kind of animal,

it's something that
you cannot explain,

it's something that
you have to feel.

You have to be there.

I like to feel these
kind of emotions.

I need to feel this
adrenaline in my body.

I need to feel this fear.

I've been running with
the bulls for 18 years,

and every year before the run,

I like to go to the
corrals and visit them.

It's kind of first
contact with the herd.

I like to introduce myself,

and study all their traits,
the size of the horns,

the color of the skin.

How tall are they,

and how can I distinguish
the steer from the bulls,

because sometimes they
have similar colors.

When I run with the bulls
in other cities in Spain,

I don't usually do this
kind of introduction.

But Pamplona is special for me,

because here, they
have the biggest bulls,

you can run the closest,

and it's the most
dangerous run in Spain.

When I see the bulls
face-to-face for the first time,

I start to get nervous,

because I realize how
dangerous they can be.

I try to get in their minds...

and I'm usually
visualizing the run.

These bulls are special to me,

because they are so beautiful,

powerful, noble, and dangerous.

They demand respect.

There is no other animal
in the world like these bulls.

Today is Sunday.

It's gonna be a crowded day.

The breed today is Miura.

They are the biggest bulls.

David:

Dennis: Yeah, no,
I've never been here before.

After the run, a lot of
the established runners

will come here for breakfast
and talk about the run.

So I saw all the legs
of the bulls, all of them.

I was like a ball,

trying to keep safe,

but everyone hit me.

My cap, I left my cap,
I don't know where is my cap.

I miss it.

How do we get you another cap?

I have more.

- Dennis: Oh, good.
- Some other ones.

Bill: I've only been to one
runners' breakfast ever before.

This is number two,
and it's exciting.

So what happened?

Did you headbutt a cabestro?

No, he headbutted me.

I really got nailed
by a by a steer today,

and I busted my face and
my elbow and everything,

and I'm pretty sure most
of these guys saw it on TV,

and so they're all
laughing at me,

and they're also
laughing at my shoes

'cause I've got these
five-finger shoes on.

So I'm kind of the class
clown today of the runners.

You have your good days,
you have your bad days, so...

Ten years ago,
I was a street brawler,

a drug dealer,

I was suffering from
a mental disorder,

that I didn't even know I had.

I was doing a lot of drugs
and drinking too much.

I was angry at the world.

The bulls changed all that.

When a bull separates
from the pack,

he gets confused
and scared and angry.

He starts lashing
out at everything.

When that happens,
I can see a glimpse of myself

in the animal.

My goal as a runner

is to contain
the wrath of the animal...

and direct it up the street.

There are moments
in the streets,

these majestic moments
with the bulls...

when I feel calm,

when I'm at peace.

That's what the running
of the bulls has given me.

It's helped me
to find inner peace.

This is the bull
I was trying to get to,

and this guy wasn't
having it man,

he nailed me.

He nailed me
and sent me airborne,

and I went flat down,

smashed my face,

my testicles were
definitely in a lot of pain.

Seeing those shots of me
and Juan Pedro Lecuona,

it really made my day because

I was broken up a little bit.

I got my ass kicked today,
you know.

But to know that before
I got my ass kicked,

I kicked some ass...

It made you feel like maybe
it was a draw this morning.

It wasn't a fuckin'
total ass-kicking.

I think...

to extract,

you know, poetry
out of violence,

to have a violent
experience, to extract truth,

and art out of it.

It's a great endeavor.

The greatest literature,
in my opinion,

that has ever been written
by American writers

were Faulkner,

were Ernest Hemingway.

The guys who really
wrote about violence.

I feel that, you know
I hope that one day,

to do the things
that they've done,

take some of this
pain and the blood

and ugliness in my life,

and make something
beautiful out of it.

Josiah: I heard you're writing
about your experiences

in Pamplona
for the Chicago Tribune.

Bill: Yeah.
This year I pitched a story,

and I have some angles
over there, you know.

Is this like a first for you?

- Yeah.
- With your writing career?

You know, it's the biggest
print publication of my life,

and something that'll
be on my resume

until the day I die.

I'm a Chicago Tribune
published author,

well, you know, writer.

Yeah, yeah.

It's probably the biggest
day of my writing career today.

- Really?
- Yeah.

Hopefully, I shouldn't drink

because they might not put
it in or something.

My first fiesta,
I used to sleep right here.

There's this nice little slope.

It made a comfortable
little bed.

It was cool.

The cops they would let me
sleep there after a while.

They recognized me,
and they let me sleep.

- This is Jo here.
- Nice to meet you.

Josiah: Dennis just
introduced me to some dudes

apparently he met last year,

and they're gonna
cook us a meal,

and it's pretty awesome.

I'm a big outdoors guy,
and I like camping,

so this'll be pretty awesome,

being able to eat
a hot meal outside.

It's gonna be almost better
than eating it

inside the busy city.

Dennis: Mm!

So fresh.

We've got
the whole world here, man.

Spanish culture,
African culture,

Iraqi culture.

Ali here used to work

where I worked
for a year in Iraq.

So I was Dennis' gunner in Iraq.

And we were usually
the lead truck on missions.

And I think we were the lead,
because that's where he, Dennis,

that's where he preferred to be.

One day we were on patrol,

and we'd reached the
end of our route,

and we were turning around
to go back the other way,

and instead of us being lead,

this one time,
another truck took lead.

Ali: It's like

anything that happens,
you're just like "okay."

I kind of expected that.

I think Dennis is,

he was very much the same.

He was looking for it.

It wasn't like it found him,
he went looking for it

We went looking for it.

Dennis: I always wanted
to be the guy with the plan,

who could guide people through
a chaotic situation,

that's what I loved
about the Army,

and why I now feel
so at home here in Pamplona.

Dennis:
This is our La Curva day.

We're gonna do this, man.

You got this.

Just slow it down, right.

We can pull this off, man.
This is something special.

Really something special.

People don't do this run.

And I'm loving the scarceness
of the crowd right now.

Yeah.

Dennis: My knee is like
just swelling up.

I don't know, I don't know

if I'm gonna be able
to run tomorrow.

Frankly I'm a little nervous
though, Dennis got injured,

which means tomorrow
I might be running by myself,

which will be the first
time that that's happened.

That's the thing
that's the most disappointing

is it was the easiest day

to run that we've had so far,

and it was
the worst run for him.

Dennis:
It's just too early to say.

My knee is gonna be fine.

The problem is that
the bull stepped on my calf,

and it wrenched my hip
down in the street.

It's really painful.

I don't know what's gonna
happen at this point.

I'm gonna need to get some
good sleep, and rest up.

Hopefully by the end of fiesta

I can get back out there.

Josiah: Yeah,
it's the fifth day of running.

and I'm not getting any sleep
so I'm starting to get sick.

Losing my voice a bit but,

still running today

because I want to get
out on those horns.

However,
Dennis got injured yesterday.

I think he's still running
today from when I talked to him,

and Bill got injured,
as did David,

I feel like I'm the last one

that hasn't gotten either
injured or trampled,

which means I'm either
not running hard enough

and getting close
enough to the horns,

or I'm just getting lucky,

so today I'm gonna be pushing
the envelope a little bit,

and trying to get closer
to the horns.

- Took some ibuprofen.
- Andy: Perfect.

I'm gonna rip through this
scab when I start running.

Here, cream me up, Andy.

Cream me up, man, right there.

Bam.

Glorious.

Andy: Yeah, I guess
rub that all around, man.

Going upstairs,
going downstairs,

is the worst right now.

Not enjoyable.

Ouch.

- That hurts? More than you did?
- Yeah, it's super tender.

Yeah, perfect.

Ah man, thanks ladies.

Is that better?

I'm starting to like
not feel my hip.

That's better.

Perfect, thanks so much.

Brilliant.

Okay, let's run.

Brunette woman: Is that all
you came here for?

Yeah, I need it though,
I needed it.

It was good.

Dennis: How ya doin'?

Are you running today?

Dennis: Yeah.

Josiah: How's the hip feel?

Andy said after 15
minutes I won't feel it.

I don't know if that's true.

Josiah: Ah man, I'm
getting so sick.

- Are you?
- A little bit,

I've been sleeping in the park

for like the past five days.

It's not been fun.

Sleeping in the park?

Yeah, it's cold out there,
it's loud.

Where do you put your stuff?

I hide it up in, like,
a tree area, that's pretty out.

I sleep one place,

and then I hide my
stuff in another place.

'Cause like, where you sleep,
everyone is out there.

It's just not as safe.

Holy crap.

You're probably
the only person

that's successfully done this.

Josiah: Really?

Like, none of your stuff
has gotten stolen?

No.

- Why? Do people...
- Do you need a place to crash?

I mean, it would be great,

it just seems like
there's nothing,

you know, here
that's at least cheap.

Come to Txoko after the run.

- All right.
- All right.

We'll go get your bag.

Give you a nice place to sleep.

- You got a place?
- Yeah.

Thanks so much.

Here we go.

Number five.

Josiah: I'm still shaking
from that run.

I just tried to hold position
longer than I have been

the past few days.

Then I thought I saw
where the lead bull was,

but it ended up being
one of the steers,

and the lead bull
was much farther ahead.

So I just took off running

and I knew that maybe I was
going a little too fast,

so I kind of looked behind me,

and I realized at that time

I was coming right around here.

That's when I realized
at that time,

how close they actually were.

And then I remember just
being hit in the elbow.

And it just hit me perfectly,

it just made me slide
right under the fence.

I didn't want to be
curb-stomped by a bull

like with my head backwards,

so I just kept sliding,

and the cops
just dragged me up so,

it ended up
working out pretty good.

But I cut up my knee a bit.

It's not too bad, I'm just
gonna go to the medical tent,

and disinfect it,

just so I don't got
urine in my wound.

All right, thank you very much.

I'm pretty stoked.

Definitely better than not
running on the horns, for sure.

I'm gonna see if
I can get it around

where they got
a good photo of it.

You see me there, there.

And then by this photo
I'm already hitting the ground,

so you really don't
see me at all.

I just walked in to
go buy some whites.

It seems like everybody
on the run route,

either they have
white pants or a white shirt

or a combination of both,

and I've kind of been
standing out.

Can you try them on?

- Sure.
- Yeah, sure.

Come with me.

Josiah: I think it's kind of
out of respect

for the other runners.

Obviously everyone else
wears it,

and I don't want to be
the outsider coming in.

Just not taking what they take

obviously very seriously.

It's "1 XL."

- Josiah: Okay.
- Assistant: Okay?

Josiah: Thank you.

I'm not coming back
out to show you guys.

Dennis: Pamplona's bull run
started hundreds of years ago

as the most efficient way

of getting bulls
from out in the pasture

into the center of town.

Before we had trucks,

the easiest way to do that,

was to let the bulls run.

These bulls are so revered

that some of the people
wanted to run with them.

Not all bull runs
in Spain, nowadays,

end in a bullfight.

In Pamplona they do.

Each day the bulls from
the morning's run are killed.

The bullfight is
very controversial.

I think the only thing
that everyone can agree on,

is that knowing this animal

demands such a profound
respect for it.

Josiah: I think it's gonna
take time to process.

I don't know
if the average runner

goes into it knowing
the bull's ultimate end,

or even really caring,
and I think it's...

I don't think it's
a perspective

we have in the United States.

We do all of our killing
behind closed doors,

and we also, in that regard,
we don't pay respect for it.

In the United States
we don't like to view that.

Dennis: About a week ago
David and I went to the town

where he first ran, this town
called Elche de la Sierra.

He goes there before
Pamplona a lot of times

to catch up with this guy

who first taught him
how to run.

This guy, Carlos Santoro.

David: I always learn
something from Carlos,

that I can share
with other runners.

One thing he said
to me when I visit him,

was that each year our
knowledge of the run increases,

but our ability
to perform degrades.

I share this with Dennis,

because I know he is going
after a difficult run.

And he may only have

a few more opportunities
left to achieve it.

Dennis: In those moments
before the bulls get to me,

everything slows.

At eight o'clock when you hear
those church bells,

you know the rocket
is about to sound.

If nothing else,
my experience at Pamplona

has allowed me to
appreciate those moments.

More than running
on the horns itself,

it's standing there,
on the route,

as everyone runs past you.

And I'm standing there,

waiting for those bulls.

Josiah: Yeah! Dennis!

Dennis: I finally accomplished
my goal today.

Dude, I saw the sun,
it got me pumped,

because each of the runs
before this, this year,

I haven't seen the sun
coming through Mercaderes.

I came running around
that corner outta Town Hall

on the horns, just screaming
at the top of my lungs.

"Run to the sun!"

Josiah:
He just got a perfect run like,

it looked good
and it was a good run,

because he had
the four El Toro Bravos,

just chilling behind him.

And he actually let
the bulls pass him,

and then got on the
other side of the bulls,

and then took the bulls
and led them through La Curva.

And he's the only
person I've heard of,

that has actually
taken them through

both sections of the route.

You know, usually they prefer
one section or the other.

Dennis actually took them
through both sections,

which is phenomenal.

It feels so good, man. So good.

Yeah, I ran into Bill today.

He definitely said to me

that Dennis got the best run,

and he was holding it
down for the Americans.

He got the best run
of the Americans so far.

Bill: My run today sucked.

I whiffed completely.

Actually at one point,

if I would have stayed
where I was in the street,

I would have been on the horns,

but instead I tried to cut over

and do some stupid maneuvering
and ended up falling.

It gets so crowded
where he runs,

that it's hard getting
a good run with the bulls,

because there's so many
people around them.

Just a bad morning for me,

and I'm ready to go home,
and go back to sleep,

just say "Fuck it."

And start thinking
about tomorrow,

and stop thinking
about this morning.

Maybe this isn't for me,
like, maybe,

I should stop doing this.

My wife is really pissed at me
she's really worried.

I'm out here trying my hardest,

but it's not going my way.

Maybe it's not worth it.

Dennis:
He's trying to run in an area

that's really crowded
on the run route.

He's fallen down
multiple times this year.

He's running the same
portion of the route

where the guy died
three years ago.

Got a horn to his neck.

It's the part that I frankly
don't want to run in.

Bill is, every day, really
putting himself out there.

I want to see him
get a good run,

but I really don't want
to see him get hurt.

I've been thinking
a lot about things,

since I fell yesterday
and had a pretty bad run.

And what I'm thinking
is that I...

even though I've been
running aggressively

trying to get those good runs,

and help the herd
up the street...

and there's something
kinda missing this fiesta,

and when I get on the horns,
I think

there's something
subconscious where I'm...

I'm letting myself
drift to the sides,

where I'm being tripped up.

And I think that...

that's just because
I'm scared deep down

underneath all the preparation,

and intensity
that I bring there,

something deep inside me
might be a little scared.

I'm trying to get in touch
with that thing,

and trying to get over it,

this past day or so.

this morning I'm hoping
to run on the horns,

and stay in the
center of the street,

and hopefully
I'll have it this morning,

like I had a few times
last year.

But that's the
interesting thing,

interesting puzzle
that theencierro is.

No matter what's
happening on the street,

there's this conflict
that's going on inside,

inside of you.

I think now,
since I had that bad run,

I've been forced to face that
and...

it's been a tough day,

but I think today
I'm gonna go for it.

See what happens,
see if I have it this morning.

Bill: The bull kind of shifted
to be right behind me,

where the bull sorta
swing right in the tunnel,

so in the tunnel I was actually

directly in front of
the face of the bull,

and as I entered the tunnel,

something funny happened,

and my first step in
the sand I tripped,

and I just completely
face planted into the sand.

All of a sudden, a thought
just jumped in my head,

and it was like,
"I love this place."

"I truly love this place."

Bill: I'm tired.

I'm worn out, beat up.

I hit the stone a lot
this year,

and I guess that's the story
of my running this year,

is just getting beat up,

but coming back
and going for it again.

And then going for it,
and getting it,

and then getting beat up again,
hitting the ground.

Guys that run this,
year in and year out,

they get banged up pretty bad.

You get back out there and...

it's just what you do.

It was about midweek.

Josiah all over TV,

I think he was in a lot
of replay slow motion.

He got nudged
out of the way by the bull.

Josiah: There's one thing
about running,

and there's another
thing about running well.

And so that third or fourth run,

I got on the horns,
and it was awesome.

Because it was that thing
that I'm trying to accomplish,

throughout all these runs.

When you get on the run
route and you see the bulls,

and you gotta run from them,

you're acting
out of instinct, physically.

So in that sense, yeah,

after the run
you're appreciating everything

on a very visceral sense,
a very shallow sense,

and in retrospect
it's making you appreciate

living in general,
it's making life better.

Jo came here with a lot of
heart, and a lot of energy.

We know from that first run

when he completely
took a guy out,

that he had a lot of speed.

Over the course of a few runs,

he finally got that
run on the horns,

that we wanted to see him have,
that he wanted to have.

And so that was
a great success for him.

You know for a first year
runner to pull that off

is pretty incredible.

And it's a testament to Dennis,

Dennis as a teacher,

and Josiah's like
crazy giant balls,

to just get out there
and do his thing.

Dennis: It's always great
just seeing, like,

guys you walk through
the route with, right,

who you give
all the information to,

that you gained over the years,

to see them out there

doing those runs.

Dennis is an educator.

You know, I came just
to run with the bulls.

I didn't come to be
a Spanish runner,

and that's the difference

is Dennis is obviously
working towards

being that Spanish runner.

So Dennis was able
to really be that catalyst,

that got me from being
a runner on the route,

to being immerged in San Fermín.

There's a difference in that.

A lot of tourists come here.

This is Pamplona.

Everyone is welcome.

They make the fiesta what it is.

When I see Bill
or Dennis make a nice run,

I feel proud.

I want others
to follow that example.

Dennis was very extremely
consistent this year,

and then he finally
worked his way

all the way down to the curve,
and ran them up the street,

it was just a phenomenal run.

It was the run of the year,

for any foreign runner.

Dennis:
I knew I wanted to run hard.

I really wanted to
go after these runs,

and I wanted to create
a run of my own.

I felt like I had done
what I came here to do,

but I think given
the fact that I had a goal,

I accomplished it,

now I'm like,
there's so much more out there,

for me to go after.

The bull sees things
in a very simple way.

It knows if there's something
in its area,

that piques its interest.

This common misperception,

the bull's chasing
after the red of the cape,

it's not, it's chasing
after that movement.

It's something
that interests it.

It's something
that it wants to go after,

and it persists,

true to its nature,
until it dies.

The matador always
keeps that cape

just beyond the bull's reach.

And there are people
that go after

things that are beyond
their reach.

In that experience,
in that quest,

they find value in
their own lives.

That's what I call
"Chasing Red."