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This is the way we sit and wait,
sit and wait, sit and wait.
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This is the way we sit and wait.
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Good job my friends.
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Let’s play the quiet game.
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Quiet game.
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What comes to mind
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when you imagine a school?
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Kids sitting at their desks?
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Perhaps a teacher in front
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struggling to keep
their attention.
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Or a school bell
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ringing through the hallways.
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When I think of school
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I think of chalk.
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I still picture it in my hands
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nervously trying to solve a
math problem on the blackboard.
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Welcome to the world.
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My own school days
are long gone
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but for my daughter,
they have yet to begin.
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By the time she
will go to school
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I worry that she'll
be confronted
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with more frightening things
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than solving math problems
in front of the class.
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Nineteen children
and two teachers were killed
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at Robb Elementary School
in Uvalde, Texas.
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City leaders in Uvalde
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are calling for privacy
and compassion for the families
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of the victims and survivors...
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I remember watching the news
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about the school
shooting in Uvalde.
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My daughter was two months old
and sleeping in my lap
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oblivious to what was happening
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just a couple towns
away from us.
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Since that day,
I keep wondering...
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How can we keep her safe
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in a world like this?
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This morning, flags are flying
at half staff across Texas
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marking one year since one
of the worst school shootings
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in American history.
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One year ago today,
an 18 year old gunman
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broke into
an elementary school in Uvalde
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killing nineteen children
and two teachers.
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For many, the reminders
of the tragedy are everywhere.
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With an uptick
in school shootings
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and the fears
that come with them
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a lot of Texas parents
are wondering
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how best to protect their kids
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while setting them up
for success in the future.
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How can I help you?
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Good afternoon.
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I'm looking for a daycare
for my daughter.
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I wanted to gather
some more information
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if that's possible.
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Yes, ma’am.
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It might be an awkward question,
but do you have a safety plan
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in case of
a school shooting happening?
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We’re getting introduced to all
this shooting stuff just now.
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OK.
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So, you know,
we do lockdowns.
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We do those kind of drills.
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But right now
with active shooter...
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We are in the process of
figuring all that stuff out.
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- Ok.
- It’s just, we never thought
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that we’d have to be going
to training for this.
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Yeah, I’m asking because I’m...
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I just moved here from Belgium,
about four years ago.
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And we never had
a school shooting in Belgium.
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So for me, this is all new.
And I'm a bit worried about it.
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You know, I was born and raised
here in Austin.
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And this whole Uvalde thing,
I think that hit us home.
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Being so close to Uvalde...
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But yes, ma'am
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we're hoping that
never happens to us.
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And we do have locked doors
and all that good stuff.
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Okay.
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But, you know,
active shooter plan?
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Not yet.
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Olivia!
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Joshua!
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Junior!
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Laura!
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Emma!
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Go sit down, please.
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Go sit down, baby.
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Working with children,
really makes a difference.
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Sometimes you
have a rough day...
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Anything to warm up...
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I got you!
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And then you come over here
and just a kiss and a hug
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or a silly phrase....
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In that moment you just laugh.
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I am originally from Venezuela.
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Over there, we deal with
another type of safeness.
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You go out and you know
you cannot carry your necklace.
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You know that
you need to pay attention
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of your surroundings
and stuff like that
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It’s a whole other level.
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But you don’t have the fear
to send your kids to school.
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I can’t recall
going to school...
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feeling scared.
Or my mom talking to me
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“If somebody comes
to school to shoot you
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you’ve got nowhere to go.”
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So I didn't grow up with that.
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The hardest part in my job
is caring for other kids
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and having the responsibility of
providing a safe environment
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for them.
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It is hard.
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I don't want to carry
the responsibility
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of losing a child’s life
on my hand.
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I don't think
I could live with that, so...
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I don't think nobody could,
you know?
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That must be really hard.
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So when Zaïra would go
to this daycare
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what would the safety plan
look like here?
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We have trained for lockdowns
and unsafe buildings
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and stuff like that.
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But an active shooter,
we haven’t.
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So that's why we wanted
to get training.
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And if you look, you know,
at last year...
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Look at this, in 2022
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not a single week passed
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without at least
four mass shooting events.
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It's crazy.
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And we say mass shooting,
we’re talking about
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four or more people
that have been shot.
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So that’s quite a few events.
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You know, you can see,
646 mass shootings...
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What is there,
365 days in a year?
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So we're talking, what?
About two a day?
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That's numbers
that we've never seen before.
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But that's why this training
has become so important.
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And just as we prepare for fires
and floods and tornadoes
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and earthquakes.
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Sadly we’ve got to start
thinking about this stuff, too.
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So what we're going to
talk about today is really...
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I want the teachers to be
the best they can be.
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Teaching the kids
the proper way.
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And you know,
shaping those young minds.
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I don't want
them to be combat warriors.
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That's not fair.
They didn't sign up for that.
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But when I saw
the numbers and said
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wow, less than half
of early childhood programs
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aren't prepared
for an active shooter.
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We’ve got to do
something about that.
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I don't want to minimize
the impact
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that you’re going to have
as the initial responder.
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Because your actions
or inactions...
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are really going to set
the stage on how this goes.
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We’ve got
a bunch of options here.
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We’ve got running,
we‘ve got hiding
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we’ve got fighting.
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And I can't tell
you specifically
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which options
are going to be best
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because the situation you're in
might be very different.
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You know, if you're
in the infant room
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your options are very different
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than somebody that's working
with a four or a five year old.
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So sometimes hiding
might be the best choice
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Sometimes running
might be the best choice.
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Sometimes, you're going
to have no choice
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but to defend yourself, right?
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And we want to make sure
that we practice those options
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so that we become
comfortable with them
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and know what to do
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in all sorts of
different settings.
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So here they are:
run, hide and fight.
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So let's look at the run option.
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So we’ve got everybody out
in under 20 seconds
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which is, you know,
simply amazing.
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- What do you think Ron?
- Very, very fast.
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Everybody did really,
really well.
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- Good job ladies.
- Excellent, good job guys.
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Yay, Dante!
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In terms of our hiding...
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That's another option
that we want to think about.
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Our objectives are
to stay out of sight
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to put some barricades up
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to make it as hard as possible
to get to us...
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and to keep the kids as calm
and as quiet as we possibly can.
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Now, the last part
of the whole thing
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is fighting if we have to.
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We're really not just getting
into a fair fight here.
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We're trying to
defend and survive.
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But now we have to be thinking
okay, if I'm in there...
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And I'm trapped in there,
I have no other way out.
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What am I going to do?
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Well, I'm going to grab this,
right?
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You know, first thing
that I can find.
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What if somebody comes in?
I can squirt them in the eyes.
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I can maybe hit him
over the head with this.
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I'm going to try to find
anything that I can
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to defend myself.
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I just see those teachers
standing there with like...
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tools that they find,
like blocks and stuff.
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And I’m just wondering,
how on earth
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are they going to
defend themselves
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with somebody coming in
with like a machine gun?
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Well, I think there’s
a couple different things
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that we can,
you know, think about.
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A pair of scissors
is obviously not going to be
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a very good weapon of choice
against a machine gun.
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But I’ve got to tell you,
if I'm pinned in a room
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and that's
the only thing I have...
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I'm going to make a go at it
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because I don't want
it to be easy, to kill me
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I'm going to make it
as difficult as possible
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for that person.
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Maybe I can slow
that person down.
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Maybe I can buy some time
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so that others
aren't killed or injured.
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So that's kind of what
the mentality sadly has to be.
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When Andy and I leave here
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we hope that you'll
continue practicing this.
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And not just do this like once
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once a year or once in a while,
but do this on a regular basis
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so you're already ready to go.
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Because practice
is going to make us prepared.
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And the more we practice
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the better it's going to be
for us during any emergency.
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I don’t know how you,
you do a drill with babies?
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I don't know how that works,
to be honest.
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The drill that you guys saw...
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are the kids involved
in these drills?
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Well, what we saw
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was like a training
for the teachers.
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Um, and so I think
the teachers have to do that
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with the kids a
few times a year,
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but we didn't really see that.
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And I also don't think that
the kids realize it yet
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at that young age.
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But I am worried about
when the kids get older...
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So if we put Zaïra there,
when she gets older
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when she starts to realize
what this is about
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what it’s going to do to her.
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These sounds are clues for you
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to tune in
and get somewhere safe.
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Excuse me.
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We will be talking about:
“Staying quiet!”
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When we hear
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“Lock down, locks, lights
out of sight.”
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We need to stay quiet
in our hiding place.
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Look at this
picture of a quiet mouth.
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What do you think it means
to have a quiet mouth?
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Yes, Alice.
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It means you don't talk.
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Very good.
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It even means you don't whisper.
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What would you do...
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You're not in the classroom.
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You're not with another teacher.
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But maybe you're on the way
to the bathroom.
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You're all by yourself.
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And...
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You might hear an announcement
that says: “run, hide, fight.”
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Or you might hear a noise
that sounds like a weapon.
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Or maybe you see a bad guy.
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You're all by yourself
in the hallway.
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What would you do
in that situation?
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If all the doors are closed
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except the one
of the first graders
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- you can go in there.
- That should be number one.
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But let's say that there is
no way to go into another class
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because the doors are shut
and they're locked.
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Or, there's just
nobody else in here
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and you don’t know
what to do.
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You can hide somewhere
on the playground, okay?
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Schools are
a very safe place to be.
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You're safe here.
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Last summer
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when I found out about
the school shooting
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at Robb Elementary
in Uvalde, Texas
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I was so devastated by the news
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that another school shooting
had happened.
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Every day that I walk
my children to school
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I say, I love you,
and I watch them.
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And just breathe
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because that’s all I can do,
and hope that...
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everyone is doing their job
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to protect them.
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I'm doing my job
to try and raise awareness
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change the conversation
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support people who are
changing the conversation
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because I don't have
all the answers.
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Welcome to this service,
mourning those who have died
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from gun violence.
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This afternoon we’ll be reading
the known names
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of those who have died
in Harris County, during 2022
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from gun violence.
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Today we are remembering
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Texas gun violence victims.
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It's too many.
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And thinking about our children
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who are being put
in the line of fire.
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Who are
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being called to action
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as if they were
in military service
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without choice
and without protection.
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You did 21 laps?
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- Nice.
- And I forced my ankle.
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Well, maybe that's
why your ankle hurts.
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How was the rest
of your lunch?
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I'm sorry I could only stay
for a few minutes.
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All right.
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You guys in Lego world now?
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When I was researching
the project
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I thought about
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how our children are essentially
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playing war games at school.
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Whether they want to or not,
that this is their life.
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And they’re having to do
these active shooter drills
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and lockdowns.
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and they're playing
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war games.
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What happens
during your drills?
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Mommy doesn't know
what you guys do?
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Well, for the lockdown drills...
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The principal will say
on the announcement
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“It's a lockdown drill.
Lock your doors.”
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And we hide behind our shelves.
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But we can't do anything else.
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Sometimes
whenever we do the drills
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no one ever tells us.
Our teachers don’t tell us
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if it's a real one
or just practice.
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So I get scared sometimes
to see if it's real
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or if it's just a drill.
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And if we don't get up
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and scoot our chairs quietly
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and we're loud, we start over
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and do it again
until we can make it good.
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- You want to show me?
- Uh huh.
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All right, say the drill.
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Teachers, lock your doors.
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Teachers, lock your doors.
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This is a lockdown.
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My daughter said that
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it helps her to prepare.
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And that makes me so sad...
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to think that she has to prepare
for such an event.
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- Hi, nice to meet you.
- Hi.
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Thanks for being with us.
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No problem.
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I'm a professor of public health
in New Mexico State University.
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My research has focused on
how schools are preparing.
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And what would they do
in certain situations.
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So most schools
in your neighborhood
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my neighborhood,
have security cameras
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backpack checks,
metal detectors,
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locked doors, a lockdown drill
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preparing students
for a mass shooting.
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This is a drill.
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I repeat, this is a drill.
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We are in a
level three lockdown.
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The problem is...
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they have not been able
to stop a mass shooting.
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Get into the closet.
Go in the closet.
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Turn the light on,
until we get in there.
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Let's go, get the chairs
up there. Let's go.
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The rest of you,
get in the closet.
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Let's go.
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Get in the closet!
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There is no documented evidence
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that we could stop
a mass shooting
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with this kind of an approach.
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You're quiet.
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Keep your hands to yourself.
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And that’s a typical
American school now.
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It has become a war zone.
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No one is asking
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is this conducive
to learning? Education?
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Why are we creating
this climate of fear?
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A palace, a fortress.
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No place in the world
would you see this
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in a developed nation.
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There are studies to show
that kids have felt vulnerable
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and distressed
because of these exposures.
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And that's why the whole idea
has become controversial.
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We have fire drills
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lockdown, tornado, earthquake.
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Our last drill,
a lockdown drill
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we did like, a full thing.
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We ripped apart
the room, we grabbed tables
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and we shoved it at the door
like it was real.
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All the kids were scared and...
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I was scared because the mic
did not say “lockdown drill”
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or I didn't hear it.
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So I thought it was
a real lockdown.
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I was trying my best to hide
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and it made me a little scared
and nervous because...
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I didn't...
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00:22:46,161 --> 00:22:48,161
I didn't feel safe at school.
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Nobody feels safe.
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00:22:51,281 --> 00:22:53,281
Nobody feels safe at school.
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It's never really safe.
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I don’t know,
it's not really safe sometimes.
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I think it'll probably happen
in our school
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because people
sometimes go insane
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and they might want to
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like, take their anger out
on kids.
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So they might want to come
to our school
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and might take their anger out
on them, by killing us.
401
00:23:18,081 --> 00:23:19,321
Maybe.
402
00:23:21,321 --> 00:23:23,401
I don’t... I really
don't like it because
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there's a lot of
bad people in the world.
404
00:23:25,881 --> 00:23:28,961
Yeah, we try not to think about
it too much or else we...
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We kind of get like...
406
00:23:30,681 --> 00:23:33,201
- Like, thinking about it.
- Nervous.
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00:23:33,321 --> 00:23:35,206
Kind of like “Oh
a school shooting
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00:23:35,218 --> 00:23:36,681
is going to happen today”.
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00:23:37,081 --> 00:23:39,641
That's not something that you
want to think about, right?
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00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:41,081
No...
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I think that,
some of the teachers
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should have, like um,
a pistol or something
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hidden in the classroom
to protect the students.
414
00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,881
Yeah, I think that too.
415
00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:05,521
Because, um...
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Because if the person
does have a gun
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00:24:08,041 --> 00:24:11,241
it would be nice to
have some protection.
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00:24:11,361 --> 00:24:17,481
Like 22 rifles, 22 long rifles.
At least a BB gun for our class.
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00:24:17,641 --> 00:24:19,761
For every single class.
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00:24:19,881 --> 00:24:22,881
It would cost a little bit,
but...
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00:24:23,241 --> 00:24:25,881
it would be worth it
for the school.
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00:24:26,041 --> 00:24:28,721
- For keeping the students safe.
- Yeah.
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It will cost a little bit
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but it would keep
the students safe.
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00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:56,121
I wonder if my daughter
will feel the same.
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00:24:57,481 --> 00:24:58,601
When I was a kid
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00:24:58,721 --> 00:25:00,481
this never crossed my mind.
428
00:25:03,441 --> 00:25:06,481
But I guess things
were different back then.
429
00:25:07,281 --> 00:25:09,481
And this is America.
430
00:25:24,481 --> 00:25:26,841
The first year we moved here
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00:25:27,121 --> 00:25:31,041
we killed 38 rattlesnakes
just on this road.
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00:25:32,401 --> 00:25:35,361
And now we might see
three or four a year.
433
00:25:56,601 --> 00:25:59,401
I was a high school teacher,
for 20 years.
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00:26:00,921 --> 00:26:02,681
You started hearing of
school shootings
435
00:26:02,801 --> 00:26:04,521
and I would think
what I would do.
436
00:26:04,641 --> 00:26:06,201
I didn't want to...
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00:26:06,441 --> 00:26:09,321
watch something happen,
or be a victim.
438
00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:10,641
I wanted to be proactive.
439
00:26:10,761 --> 00:26:13,081
I remember
coming home from school
440
00:26:13,241 --> 00:26:16,921
and talking to Jeff all the time
about different scenarios.
441
00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:18,001
What would I do
if this happened?
442
00:26:18,121 --> 00:26:19,096
What would I do
if that happened?
443
00:26:19,121 --> 00:26:20,241
I want to protect my kids.
444
00:26:24,081 --> 00:26:27,041
So, we were able
to collaborate together
445
00:26:27,161 --> 00:26:30,161
and come up with a good system
that would work for teachers.
446
00:26:33,841 --> 00:26:36,681
The point of this is
to have trained guardians.
447
00:26:36,801 --> 00:26:40,521
You can put signs on your school
that say, “we have armed staff”.
448
00:26:40,546 --> 00:26:41,616
And that's a deterrent.
449
00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:43,441
You're making the school
a hard target
450
00:26:43,521 --> 00:26:45,761
so somebody is not going
to want to breach that.
451
00:26:45,881 --> 00:26:48,161
And that's the number one goal
of the Guardian Program.
452
00:26:48,281 --> 00:26:51,281
The number two goal would be
to actually use deadly force
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00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:52,961
in the event
that there's a shooter.
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00:26:59,121 --> 00:27:01,801
So an important component
about the school Guardians
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00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:03,201
is they're armed.
456
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,496
A lot of people think
457
00:27:10,521 --> 00:27:11,921
we're just giving guns
to teachers.
458
00:27:12,041 --> 00:27:13,544
And that’s not it.
459
00:27:15,041 --> 00:27:18,641
So part of our training includes
scenario training on the campus.
460
00:27:24,801 --> 00:27:27,201
So we have
someone that's a bad guy.
461
00:27:27,441 --> 00:27:30,121
We actually put
the Guardian staff
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00:27:30,241 --> 00:27:31,841
in a shooting situation
463
00:27:33,001 --> 00:27:34,481
where they have to
defend themselves
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00:27:34,601 --> 00:27:36,001
or, take out the shooter.
465
00:27:39,641 --> 00:27:41,961
And that's as close to realistic
466
00:27:42,081 --> 00:27:43,441
as we can make it.
467
00:27:45,601 --> 00:27:48,801
It's not just for teachers,
it’s for all school staff.
468
00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:55,721
Administration, maintenance,
IT and stuff like that.
469
00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:58,841
Most of those people
are what we call “seekers”.
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00:28:00,881 --> 00:28:02,761
So if there's actually
a threat on campus
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00:28:02,881 --> 00:28:04,161
they would seek the threat
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00:28:04,281 --> 00:28:05,370
to stop it.
473
00:28:08,641 --> 00:28:10,881
And then we have what
we call “classroom defenders”
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like what Terry would have been.
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00:28:12,881 --> 00:28:15,321
We don't ever tell a teacher
to leave their classroom.
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00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:16,481
They need to stay
with their kids.
477
00:28:16,601 --> 00:28:18,681
So if the shooter happened
to come in that room
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00:28:18,801 --> 00:28:20,601
then they can defend
that classroom.
479
00:28:20,721 --> 00:28:23,201
So there's really two types
of Guardians that we look at.
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00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:29,601
Based on history
481
00:28:29,721 --> 00:28:32,481
a shooter
has some tie to the school.
482
00:28:33,601 --> 00:28:36,721
So you have to prepare yourself
as much as possible
483
00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:38,681
and not think of that student
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00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,281
as a student, but as a killer.
485
00:28:50,641 --> 00:28:53,161
We tell them that
if you do have to use
486
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deadly force to stop a shooter
487
00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:56,961
you're never
going to be the same.
488
00:28:58,761 --> 00:29:00,081
And the opposite is true.
489
00:29:00,161 --> 00:29:03,121
What if I did not have
my handgun
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00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:06,201
and let's say
ten people were killed?
491
00:29:06,321 --> 00:29:09,561
So that guilt is also
going to weigh on that person
492
00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,321
for the rest of their lives.
493
00:29:19,121 --> 00:29:20,721
- Here's your weapon.
- Thanks.
494
00:29:20,841 --> 00:29:22,641
Here's your sword.
495
00:29:23,481 --> 00:29:24,801
Okay, here we go.
496
00:29:39,641 --> 00:29:41,641
I have to say that um...
497
00:29:42,801 --> 00:29:45,561
The thought of this happening
in my daughter's school....
498
00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:49,201
- Yeah, it’s scary.
- It scares me.
499
00:29:49,321 --> 00:29:50,521
It is.
500
00:29:50,641 --> 00:29:52,001
It's frightening.
501
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Yeah.
502
00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:54,321
Most of our people
that go through that
503
00:29:54,441 --> 00:29:55,721
it's pretty emotional.
504
00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:57,321
Because it's on
their home campus.
505
00:29:57,441 --> 00:29:58,721
It's their turf.
506
00:29:58,841 --> 00:30:01,041
Do you feel like this can be
traumatizing to teachers?
507
00:30:01,161 --> 00:30:02,481
Just going through the training?
508
00:30:02,841 --> 00:30:05,601
Um, I think the scenario
training can be to a point.
509
00:30:05,801 --> 00:30:07,601
I don't think it gets
to the point where
510
00:30:07,721 --> 00:30:08,961
it's going to cause
them problems.
511
00:30:09,081 --> 00:30:10,201
But I think it's going to
512
00:30:10,321 --> 00:30:12,561
help them face
the reality of, if this happens
513
00:30:12,681 --> 00:30:13,961
this is what
it's going to be like.
514
00:30:15,321 --> 00:30:17,601
And during that time,
we have had some people
515
00:30:17,721 --> 00:30:19,761
that we've had to expel
from the program
516
00:30:19,881 --> 00:30:20,961
or excuse from the program
517
00:30:21,081 --> 00:30:22,641
expel is a horrible word
518
00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:25,161
because at that point
they didn't have...
519
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,321
they're not going to be able
to defend against a threat.
520
00:30:27,441 --> 00:30:28,881
They're probably going
to become a victim.
521
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,896
And it's just...
522
00:30:29,921 --> 00:30:31,481
Not everybody can do this.
523
00:30:35,761 --> 00:30:38,761
How did it feel for you
as a teacher carrying a gun?
524
00:30:39,161 --> 00:30:42,361
I would say it did raise
my level of confidence
525
00:30:42,481 --> 00:30:43,681
and security.
526
00:30:44,081 --> 00:30:47,361
And I even told my students,
when I would introduce myself
527
00:30:47,481 --> 00:30:48,561
and we would start
the school year
528
00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:50,201
I would say,
“I just want you to know
529
00:30:50,321 --> 00:30:53,081
that no matter what happens
I’ll protect you with my life.”
530
00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:56,281
“I'm here for you in every
aspect, not just education.”
531
00:30:56,441 --> 00:30:57,521
And, um...
532
00:30:57,841 --> 00:30:59,365
You know, it's just the care
that you have for your students.
533
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,520
It's natural.
534
00:31:00,561 --> 00:31:02,841
By the way, they voted her
“best teacher of the year”.
535
00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:04,256
after that.
536
00:31:20,121 --> 00:31:22,041
A lot of people have
a tendency to do this.
537
00:31:22,161 --> 00:31:23,641
They drop their firearm.
538
00:31:23,761 --> 00:31:26,641
But when you're in combat,
this is combat
539
00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:28,281
you're going to lean out.
540
00:31:28,401 --> 00:31:29,601
Okay. Just a little bit.
541
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:32,641
You're trying not to expose
the rest of your body
542
00:31:32,761 --> 00:31:35,761
because this is a target area
for the bad guy.
543
00:31:35,881 --> 00:31:38,121
I think it's interesting
that you say, “this is combat”.
544
00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:41,121
And I'm talking specifically
about schools.
545
00:31:41,241 --> 00:31:43,961
- You refer to it as...
- Well, it’s combat training.
546
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,960
That's what it is.
547
00:31:44,983 --> 00:31:48,401
A lot of this training,
it comes from my experience
548
00:31:48,521 --> 00:31:50,201
other law enforcement
officers’ experience.
549
00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:52,001
Military experience.
550
00:31:53,241 --> 00:31:55,801
And it's, the way
it's been described
551
00:31:55,921 --> 00:31:58,841
and the way we describe it,
because we want it to be bold
552
00:31:58,841 --> 00:31:59,921
is combat training.
553
00:32:00,041 --> 00:32:01,321
You are in combat
554
00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:03,001
against someone
who's trying to kill you.
555
00:32:03,201 --> 00:32:05,801
The only other place that
you see a situation like this
556
00:32:05,961 --> 00:32:08,201
is on the battlefield,
in a war.
557
00:32:30,681 --> 00:32:33,681
We're not prepared for combat.
558
00:32:35,001 --> 00:32:36,681
Do we have tools
559
00:32:37,881 --> 00:32:40,201
to combat
560
00:32:41,321 --> 00:32:42,441
an event?
561
00:32:42,641 --> 00:32:43,681
Yes.
562
00:32:45,201 --> 00:32:48,201
But we're not laying siege
on anything.
563
00:32:49,841 --> 00:32:52,561
We're not going to war.
564
00:32:53,601 --> 00:32:55,881
We're going to protect.
565
00:32:56,841 --> 00:32:59,201
So it's not combat...
566
00:32:59,761 --> 00:33:01,521
it’s protection.
567
00:33:01,921 --> 00:33:04,921
I don't know any educator
568
00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:09,401
that wants to do this.
569
00:33:09,761 --> 00:33:11,521
I don't want to have to have...
570
00:33:11,641 --> 00:33:14,001
I don't want to
have to carry a gun.
571
00:33:14,121 --> 00:33:17,161
I don't want to have to have
a bulletproof vest.
572
00:33:17,641 --> 00:33:20,041
I don’t want to have
to have any of that.
573
00:33:21,641 --> 00:33:24,441
But the times in
which we live...
574
00:33:25,641 --> 00:33:28,001
are dictating that.
575
00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:32,121
And so like everything else,
we evolve.
576
00:33:34,161 --> 00:33:37,361
And that's what we've done.
577
00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:43,641
And as a result of that,
we now have AR-15’s
578
00:33:44,321 --> 00:33:47,401
as part of our weaponry
579
00:33:47,521 --> 00:33:49,041
that we have here on school
580
00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:51,321
stored in safes
throughout the campus.
581
00:33:54,281 --> 00:33:56,601
It's just another tool.
582
00:33:56,721 --> 00:33:58,881
And so it’s just
one other deterrent that we have
583
00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:01,521
in case the bad guys
want to do bad things.
584
00:34:12,841 --> 00:34:15,241
In small towns,
there are some limitations.
585
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,961
We have
no local police department.
586
00:34:18,081 --> 00:34:19,601
Our local sheriff's
department...
587
00:34:19,721 --> 00:34:23,201
The office is a minimum
of 15 minutes away.
588
00:34:24,441 --> 00:34:26,721
Even if they're running with
their sirens on
589
00:34:27,241 --> 00:34:29,361
it's going to take time.
590
00:34:29,481 --> 00:34:32,801
So why do we give
someone with bad intentions
591
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,016
more time?
592
00:34:34,041 --> 00:34:35,561
You know, we will have
593
00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:38,201
in essence,
our own police force
594
00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:41,601
our teachers,
that choose to be armed.
595
00:34:41,721 --> 00:34:44,761
Because my teachers
will be closer to the action
596
00:34:45,481 --> 00:34:47,361
than anyone else would be.
597
00:34:48,281 --> 00:34:51,521
Did you ever have
any outside threats
598
00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:52,801
like, did something ever happen?
599
00:34:52,921 --> 00:34:55,441
When I first got here in 2014
600
00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:58,041
I actually had a teacher
601
00:34:58,161 --> 00:35:01,401
go into a diabetic state.
602
00:35:01,801 --> 00:35:04,801
He grabbed a gun
and fired two shots.
603
00:35:05,201 --> 00:35:06,241
And here I am.
604
00:35:06,361 --> 00:35:09,161
I'm running after
somebody that has a gun
605
00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:10,761
trying to figure out
what's going on.
606
00:35:10,841 --> 00:35:11,961
And I'm like, you know
607
00:35:12,081 --> 00:35:14,201
there's something
not quite right here.
608
00:35:14,481 --> 00:35:17,601
I'm running unarmed,
towards a guy that is armed.
609
00:35:17,881 --> 00:35:19,641
And I'm just like, okay.
610
00:35:19,761 --> 00:35:21,561
And when we found him,
he was passed out
611
00:35:21,561 --> 00:35:24,921
and we had EMT,
shortly afterwards and stuff.
612
00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:28,721
And sure enough,
it was very low insulin.
613
00:35:28,841 --> 00:35:31,961
And he was...
He wound up being okay
614
00:35:32,201 --> 00:35:35,121
But, he didn't teach
at Fayetteville ISD
615
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,241
for much longer after that.
616
00:35:40,281 --> 00:35:41,561
- Can I ask another question?
- Yeah.
617
00:35:41,681 --> 00:35:43,481
Isn’t it kind of funny, that...
618
00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:44,840
The...
619
00:35:46,841 --> 00:35:51,321
The thing that got you
into giving guns to teachers
620
00:35:51,681 --> 00:35:54,321
was actually
a teacher with a gun?
621
00:35:54,441 --> 00:35:55,841
You know what?
622
00:35:57,281 --> 00:35:59,121
I really never thought of it
that way.
623
00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:02,241
But yes, it is. It is a
very interesting concept.
624
00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:05,721
And, you know, I do...
625
00:36:06,441 --> 00:36:08,841
see kind of the, you know
626
00:36:09,641 --> 00:36:11,161
kind of the backwards thinking
on that now.
627
00:36:11,281 --> 00:36:13,441
So thank you
for pointing that out.
628
00:36:14,321 --> 00:36:16,841
But yet at the same time,
you know...
629
00:36:17,481 --> 00:36:19,641
You know, it's not fun.
630
00:36:19,761 --> 00:36:22,001
It's not something
we want to do.
631
00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:25,281
But I think
it's creating awareness
632
00:36:25,481 --> 00:36:29,241
and I think it's creating,
giving kids an understanding of
633
00:36:29,561 --> 00:36:30,961
hey, I'm going to be protected
634
00:36:31,081 --> 00:36:32,841
because these people
care about me.
635
00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,841
Guns are
the leading cause of death
636
00:36:56,961 --> 00:36:58,841
among children
in the United States.
637
00:37:00,801 --> 00:37:02,281
4000 children
638
00:37:02,401 --> 00:37:05,041
will die of guns this year
in the United States.
639
00:37:05,201 --> 00:37:06,423
Wow.
640
00:37:06,681 --> 00:37:09,761
- That's a very sad number.
- That's a very sad number.
641
00:37:12,081 --> 00:37:15,441
It’s a billion dollar industry
to make schools safer.
642
00:37:15,961 --> 00:37:18,321
But it's
a false sense of security.
643
00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,121
The fact remains that
most of the children
644
00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:22,881
who die of guns
in the United States
645
00:37:23,001 --> 00:37:24,481
die away from the school.
646
00:37:27,081 --> 00:37:28,561
They're dying in the community
647
00:37:28,681 --> 00:37:30,681
on the streets,
in the household.
648
00:37:30,801 --> 00:37:33,121
And so we have
our priorities misplaced.
649
00:37:33,561 --> 00:37:34,872
We react in the wrong places,
650
00:37:34,884 --> 00:37:36,481
and then we have
this blame game.
651
00:37:36,801 --> 00:37:40,281
We blame Democrats,
Republicans, immigration,
652
00:37:40,401 --> 00:37:43,401
criminals, mental illness,
too many guns.
653
00:37:43,841 --> 00:37:45,681
Everything comes into play.
654
00:37:45,801 --> 00:37:47,281
We have a great divide
as a nation
655
00:37:47,401 --> 00:37:48,601
on what should we do?
656
00:37:53,081 --> 00:37:54,521
I don't really see...
657
00:37:55,761 --> 00:37:58,601
how guns could help us
feel more safe.
658
00:37:58,881 --> 00:38:00,081
I've never...
659
00:38:00,801 --> 00:38:04,521
until recently thought that
I needed to protect my house.
660
00:38:04,641 --> 00:38:07,481
Only, like during the pandemic
did I start thinking
661
00:38:07,601 --> 00:38:09,561
oh, maybe
I need a gun for protection.
662
00:38:09,681 --> 00:38:11,761
You know, because of
the uncertainty
663
00:38:11,881 --> 00:38:13,241
with everything
that was going on.
664
00:38:13,361 --> 00:38:16,081
I always thought of
just having a shotgun.
665
00:38:16,201 --> 00:38:18,641
Do you really think that if
somebody breaks into the house
666
00:38:18,761 --> 00:38:20,161
that you're going to shoot him?
667
00:38:20,521 --> 00:38:21,921
I would shoot him in the legs.
668
00:38:22,161 --> 00:38:24,481
Like, if some crazy guy
breaks in here?
669
00:38:24,601 --> 00:38:25,933
Right...
670
00:38:28,721 --> 00:38:32,001
Trust me, I would not be
trying to shoot anybody.
671
00:38:32,121 --> 00:38:33,721
No, but that's
what everybody says, right?
672
00:38:33,841 --> 00:38:35,521
It's just for the bad guy.
673
00:38:36,441 --> 00:38:38,241
- You know, it’s just..
- I’m just trying to understand.
674
00:38:38,361 --> 00:38:41,281
It's for your,
your mental, you know...
675
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,440
well-being.
676
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,496
It makes you feel better.
677
00:38:44,521 --> 00:38:45,841
But, yeah.
678
00:38:46,681 --> 00:38:48,761
It doesn't always work.
679
00:38:48,881 --> 00:38:49,881
Obviously.
680
00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:53,481
But, it makes you feel better.
681
00:38:53,601 --> 00:38:55,081
Yeah. Okay.
682
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,176
That's why people do it.
683
00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:57,761
Because they feel
that they're afraid.
684
00:38:57,881 --> 00:38:59,161
That's what this country
is all about.
685
00:38:59,281 --> 00:39:01,041
- Being afraid.
- Right.
686
00:39:01,161 --> 00:39:03,401
You know, we're all afraid
so we feel like we have to...
687
00:39:03,521 --> 00:39:04,921
So do you feel afraid then?
688
00:39:05,961 --> 00:39:07,561
- In this country?
- Yeah.
689
00:39:07,681 --> 00:39:10,121
Like there's a lot of violence
in this country.
690
00:39:10,241 --> 00:39:12,801
It happens everywhere,
all the time, so...
691
00:39:14,041 --> 00:39:16,681
I don't know, sometimes,
you know, I think about it.
692
00:39:16,801 --> 00:39:19,361
It's a possibility.
It could happen to anyone.
693
00:39:19,481 --> 00:39:22,121
And that's a problem.
694
00:39:22,241 --> 00:39:23,533
You know.
695
00:39:23,681 --> 00:39:26,481
That people think
that they need a gun?
696
00:39:26,601 --> 00:39:28,121
That's a problem?
697
00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:29,361
Yeah. Yeah.
698
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,480
And that there are
guns everywhere.
699
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,485
So it's like
700
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:33,841
well, everybody else has a gun,
so I better get a gun.
701
00:39:34,281 --> 00:39:35,441
- When does it end?
- Yeah.
702
00:39:37,321 --> 00:39:38,561
Sometimes I wonder
703
00:39:38,681 --> 00:39:40,681
if we should raise Zaïra
here at all.
704
00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:42,201
Yeah.
705
00:39:42,841 --> 00:39:44,601
That's how I feel.
706
00:39:53,841 --> 00:39:55,721
You're safe now.
707
00:39:59,281 --> 00:40:02,681
You're in a safe space,
you’re in a safe place now.
708
00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:09,201
So let's begin on an inhale
709
00:40:09,361 --> 00:40:11,201
with a count to four.
710
00:40:12,681 --> 00:40:15,961
One, two, three, four...
711
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:18,161
And hold it there.
712
00:40:18,281 --> 00:40:22,161
One, two, three, four
713
00:40:22,481 --> 00:40:26,401
five, six, seven, and exhale.
714
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,840
Release
715
00:40:27,881 --> 00:40:30,641
two, three, four
716
00:40:31,041 --> 00:40:34,841
five, six, seven, eight.
717
00:40:35,601 --> 00:40:37,481
So let's just ground.
718
00:40:37,921 --> 00:40:40,681
Just notice your feet
rooted to the floor.
719
00:40:40,801 --> 00:40:45,081
Notice the seat supporting you
where you're sitting.
720
00:40:45,681 --> 00:40:46,981
Uvalde...
721
00:40:47,761 --> 00:40:49,921
was a vicarious trauma
722
00:40:50,041 --> 00:40:53,041
that everyone in Texas
experienced.
723
00:40:53,921 --> 00:40:56,841
How do we as a collective heal
724
00:40:57,001 --> 00:41:00,481
from traumatic experience,
right?
725
00:41:00,801 --> 00:41:02,881
When something
traumatic happens
726
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,200
we withdraw.
727
00:41:04,241 --> 00:41:08,521
But then the other response
is to kind of attack it
728
00:41:08,601 --> 00:41:10,681
or create like a...
729
00:41:11,881 --> 00:41:14,001
make it into the,
like the bad guy, like...
730
00:41:14,121 --> 00:41:17,481
We’re fighting against
this big thing, right?
731
00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:20,081
We're going to assault it back
and we’re going to kill it.
732
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
We're going to make it go,
right?
733
00:41:22,601 --> 00:41:27,841
And so I think that can create
more stress and fear.
734
00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:31,841
One of the things that came
out of the extreme fear is
735
00:41:32,121 --> 00:41:34,161
drills in all public schools.
736
00:41:47,881 --> 00:41:51,761
In my son's former school,
during a lockdown drill
737
00:41:52,361 --> 00:41:54,001
one of the teachers
in the building
738
00:41:54,121 --> 00:41:56,121
had forgotten to close her door.
739
00:41:57,641 --> 00:42:00,681
And as the principal went around
to check all of the doors
740
00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:03,361
and that they were following
all of their protocols...
741
00:42:04,281 --> 00:42:06,921
He came upon her open door
742
00:42:07,281 --> 00:42:09,761
and he entered into the room
743
00:42:09,881 --> 00:42:11,601
and he went,
“Bang bang bang bang!”
744
00:42:11,721 --> 00:42:14,841
“You would be dead because
you didn't close this door.”
745
00:42:14,961 --> 00:42:17,481
“Don't ever make that
mistake again.”
746
00:42:17,561 --> 00:42:20,001
You know,
which is fear and threat.
747
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880
My daughter...
748
00:42:51,921 --> 00:42:55,201
she did participate in
shooter drills at school.
749
00:42:55,721 --> 00:42:57,161
She seemed to handle it fine
750
00:42:57,281 --> 00:42:59,321
but her peers
were really scared.
751
00:43:00,401 --> 00:43:04,481
One of the things I think
she learned from a peer was
752
00:43:04,601 --> 00:43:06,601
she was three years old,
and she would come home
753
00:43:06,721 --> 00:43:09,521
and you know, talk to me
while I'm putting her to bed
754
00:43:09,641 --> 00:43:11,001
about how
755
00:43:11,161 --> 00:43:12,721
“If a bad guy would try
to mess with me
756
00:43:12,841 --> 00:43:15,921
I would just beat him up.
And I would get him.”
757
00:43:16,321 --> 00:43:19,801
So to hear that kind of talk
from a three year old...
758
00:43:19,921 --> 00:43:23,081
I was just like,
why are you thinking about this?
759
00:43:38,281 --> 00:43:40,321
It thinks I’m a bad guy.
760
00:43:40,761 --> 00:43:42,521
Oh, ok.
It sees me.
761
00:43:43,681 --> 00:43:44,881
They’re coming.
762
00:43:52,121 --> 00:43:55,041
I do want the schools,
to be prepared
763
00:43:55,161 --> 00:43:58,241
in the event of something
catastrophic happening.
764
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,521
And at the same time,
I don't want my child
765
00:44:01,641 --> 00:44:03,481
to feel like
they're under threat.
766
00:44:03,601 --> 00:44:05,241
I want them to feel safe.
767
00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:19,521
Like all parents,
I want my kid to feel safe.
768
00:44:20,841 --> 00:44:22,641
But what does that mean?
769
00:44:23,241 --> 00:44:24,561
Hey pumpkin.
770
00:44:24,761 --> 00:44:25,881
Want to see my stethoscope?
771
00:44:26,001 --> 00:44:27,121
Oh, what is that?
772
00:44:27,481 --> 00:44:28,801
Stories of gun violence
773
00:44:28,881 --> 00:44:30,801
have become a part
of my everyday life
774
00:44:30,881 --> 00:44:32,841
in the most unexpected places.
775
00:44:33,201 --> 00:44:35,681
Can we listen to your heartbeat?
776
00:44:36,081 --> 00:44:37,361
Oh, there we go.
777
00:44:39,321 --> 00:44:41,361
In stores, at playgrounds
778
00:44:41,481 --> 00:44:43,601
even at our
pediatrician's office.
779
00:44:45,601 --> 00:44:48,121
Although if she starts daycare,
we'll see you sooner, right.
780
00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:49,681
So we do expect
the average kid in daycare
781
00:44:49,801 --> 00:44:51,921
to get about
seven to ten colds a year.
782
00:44:51,946 --> 00:44:52,776
Oh wow.
783
00:44:52,801 --> 00:44:55,721
So, not uncommon
to start seeing the runny noses.
784
00:44:55,921 --> 00:44:58,001
So, we just kind of
like to prepare parents
785
00:44:58,121 --> 00:45:00,561
to get ready for a
few more illnesses with daycare.
786
00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:03,081
But a lot of times,
it’s really fun...
787
00:45:04,281 --> 00:45:05,801
When I found out
you were doing this documentary
788
00:45:05,921 --> 00:45:08,561
it just immediately was like,
this is something
789
00:45:08,841 --> 00:45:11,201
so near and dear to myself
and my daughter.
790
00:45:12,681 --> 00:45:15,681
As a pediatrician, we know
the value of preparedness.
791
00:45:15,801 --> 00:45:18,761
We do.
We know the value of
792
00:45:18,881 --> 00:45:20,881
a fire drill and
a tornado drill.
793
00:45:21,001 --> 00:45:23,041
But with kids,
those kind of drills
794
00:45:23,841 --> 00:45:25,521
they don't have a bad guy,
right?
795
00:45:25,601 --> 00:45:28,401
And so the notion of
an active shooter drill
796
00:45:28,521 --> 00:45:31,681
brings in an element of
“there are unsafe people”.
797
00:45:32,481 --> 00:45:34,001
And, um...
798
00:45:34,121 --> 00:45:36,281
that is
a whole different level of
799
00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:37,841
of, um...
800
00:45:38,441 --> 00:45:40,241
anxiety for kids.
801
00:45:40,641 --> 00:45:42,481
Unfortunately,
there's some reality too.
802
00:45:45,401 --> 00:45:47,761
On January 26, 2021
803
00:45:47,881 --> 00:45:49,641
so just a little over
two years ago
804
00:45:49,761 --> 00:45:52,841
we had a gunman
come into our office
805
00:45:52,961 --> 00:45:54,401
at the end of our clinic day
806
00:45:54,521 --> 00:45:57,321
with the sole intention
of killing a female physician
807
00:45:57,441 --> 00:45:58,796
that day.
808
00:45:59,721 --> 00:46:01,881
My daughter was dropped off
809
00:46:02,161 --> 00:46:04,201
a few minutes
before the gunman came.
810
00:46:05,481 --> 00:46:08,121
At the time she was twelve.
She already had some anxiety.
811
00:46:08,201 --> 00:46:11,961
In fact, for years,
she actually has had nightmares
812
00:46:12,081 --> 00:46:13,241
about active shooters.
813
00:46:13,481 --> 00:46:15,041
Even though prior to that
she never experienced
814
00:46:15,161 --> 00:46:16,521
any gun violence.
815
00:46:16,641 --> 00:46:20,081
The idea for her
that the boogeyman is now human
816
00:46:20,561 --> 00:46:25,041
and really did do harm,
became very real.
817
00:46:32,961 --> 00:46:37,201
That day actually started off,
not pleasant.
818
00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:40,801
I had a fight with my dad
and that ended up with
819
00:46:40,921 --> 00:46:44,081
me feeling like wanting to die.
820
00:46:47,361 --> 00:46:50,081
When my mom wanted
to take me inside to her office
821
00:46:50,201 --> 00:46:53,241
a group of people
came outside, running.
822
00:46:55,641 --> 00:46:57,681
There was a gunman
inside the office
823
00:46:57,801 --> 00:47:00,801
that had hostage equipment.
824
00:47:02,681 --> 00:47:05,241
And we didn't know
what his intentions were.
825
00:47:05,361 --> 00:47:07,521
We just knew that
there was a guy in the office
826
00:47:07,681 --> 00:47:08,961
that had a gun.
827
00:47:12,801 --> 00:47:15,521
The doctor that was inside
that day
828
00:47:15,641 --> 00:47:16,641
she was helping my mom
829
00:47:16,761 --> 00:47:19,241
with finding like,
stuff for my therapy
830
00:47:19,521 --> 00:47:21,121
that specific day.
831
00:47:23,561 --> 00:47:25,641
I remember
my mom telling us that, like
832
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,760
she wasn't going to die.
833
00:47:26,801 --> 00:47:30,681
And if anyone could go through
a hostage situation escape
834
00:47:30,801 --> 00:47:31,841
that would be her.
835
00:47:32,681 --> 00:47:34,681
Because she just had this, like
836
00:47:34,801 --> 00:47:38,241
way of talking that
you could get along with her
837
00:47:38,361 --> 00:47:40,881
even if you were like,
a murderer.
838
00:47:45,001 --> 00:47:46,521
And that's when my mom
839
00:47:46,641 --> 00:47:50,521
told us all to run
to the office next door.
840
00:47:54,161 --> 00:47:55,961
I asked my mom like,
a couple times, like:
841
00:47:56,081 --> 00:47:58,121
“Are we going to die?”
842
00:47:58,881 --> 00:48:00,201
What did she answer?
843
00:48:01,161 --> 00:48:03,161
She couldn't answer...
844
00:48:03,961 --> 00:48:06,201
because she didn't have
an answer.
845
00:48:07,641 --> 00:48:10,161
At the time that was
the worst possible thing...
846
00:48:10,281 --> 00:48:12,721
was silence and not knowing
847
00:48:13,121 --> 00:48:15,041
if I actually was or not.
848
00:48:17,001 --> 00:48:19,081
And that helped me realize,
like, that's not what I want.
849
00:48:19,201 --> 00:48:21,001
I don't want die,
I want to live.
850
00:48:21,121 --> 00:48:23,841
I want to experience life
in a way that...
851
00:48:24,601 --> 00:48:27,601
is amazing and fun and...
852
00:48:30,441 --> 00:48:32,721
That's definitely not
how I wanted to die.
853
00:48:43,641 --> 00:48:46,961
We had hours of being concerned
that our lives were in danger.
854
00:48:47,481 --> 00:48:48,761
And to look at
your child at twelve
855
00:48:48,841 --> 00:48:49,841
laying on the floor.
856
00:48:51,281 --> 00:48:53,041
And then six hours of SWAT.
857
00:48:53,161 --> 00:48:55,001
My daughter had to watch
a SWAT team
858
00:48:55,121 --> 00:48:58,561
prepare over and over again,
how to handle the situation.
859
00:48:58,681 --> 00:49:01,681
And unfortunately,
it did not end how we expected.
860
00:49:01,801 --> 00:49:04,561
And she had to process,
just like myself...
861
00:49:04,681 --> 00:49:09,721
when they came and told us that,
that our dear friend, her doctor
862
00:49:10,601 --> 00:49:13,241
had been shot and, um...
863
00:49:15,721 --> 00:49:18,641
I think we were
honestly in shock.
864
00:49:25,121 --> 00:49:29,041
We had no idea that
that was going to happen.
865
00:49:30,401 --> 00:49:32,841
Because, like...
866
00:49:38,921 --> 00:49:40,761
Sirens.
867
00:49:46,961 --> 00:49:49,241
Do they
make you feel uncomfortable?
868
00:49:49,641 --> 00:49:50,681
Yeah.
869
00:50:00,601 --> 00:50:03,441
What is going through your mind,
now that you're hearing them?
870
00:50:04,041 --> 00:50:05,521
Just a lot of stuff.
871
00:50:06,241 --> 00:50:07,921
When I hear sirens, I...
872
00:50:08,281 --> 00:50:11,361
go straight to shootings.
And I'm not safe.
873
00:50:27,961 --> 00:50:30,121
Her lockdown drills now...
874
00:50:30,521 --> 00:50:33,521
We have it set up where
she does not participate
875
00:50:33,961 --> 00:50:36,441
in active shooter drills
at school.
876
00:50:36,561 --> 00:50:39,561
So her counselor at school
knows to pull her.
877
00:50:40,041 --> 00:50:42,041
If I'm not working,
I will go pick her up
878
00:50:42,161 --> 00:50:43,481
and we will go have coffee.
879
00:50:49,441 --> 00:50:52,641
Just because it is...
It’s too much for her.
880
00:50:54,121 --> 00:50:56,001
Yeah, it changes you.
881
00:51:11,961 --> 00:51:13,601
Are you supposed to have
a drill this week?
882
00:51:13,921 --> 00:51:14,961
I'm not sure.
883
00:51:15,721 --> 00:51:17,681
Honestly, nobody will know.
884
00:51:17,801 --> 00:51:19,561
I'm usually the one that knows.
885
00:51:19,641 --> 00:51:21,761
Yeah, I didn’t see a note
from your counselor.
886
00:51:21,881 --> 00:51:24,281
But they don’t send out
an email to everybody?
887
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,360
No.
888
00:51:25,401 --> 00:51:26,401
So you’re the only one
that knows.
889
00:51:26,521 --> 00:51:28,001
It's a surprise,
even for the teachers.
890
00:51:29,161 --> 00:51:30,961
Do they announce
that it's a drill?
891
00:51:31,081 --> 00:51:32,801
- Do they say: “This is a drill”?
- No, no.
892
00:51:32,921 --> 00:51:35,201
“This is a real emergency”,
is what they say.
893
00:51:35,881 --> 00:51:38,521
So what happens
if someone's in the hallway?
894
00:51:38,801 --> 00:51:41,561
The doors are locked
so you can't go back in.
895
00:51:42,121 --> 00:51:44,281
That's why I don't use
the restroom at school
896
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,456
or go in the hallway.
897
00:51:45,481 --> 00:51:46,521
Because you're afraid
you're gonna get stuck
898
00:51:46,641 --> 00:51:47,601
in a lockdown.
899
00:51:47,681 --> 00:51:48,601
- Oh my...
- Yeah.
900
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,880
It's kind of weird
901
00:51:50,001 --> 00:51:51,721
because as much training
as you get
902
00:51:51,841 --> 00:51:54,041
the very person that may come up
and shoot up your school
903
00:51:54,161 --> 00:51:55,801
is going to have gone
through the same training.
904
00:51:56,001 --> 00:51:57,168
Oh yeah.
905
00:51:58,041 --> 00:51:59,561
Kids out of America
906
00:51:59,881 --> 00:52:02,881
they, like look at us
like we're crazy.
907
00:52:03,481 --> 00:52:04,641
Because honestly
908
00:52:04,761 --> 00:52:06,801
they don't have to go through,
what we go through.
909
00:52:07,401 --> 00:52:09,721
And that is mind blowing,
because that's...
910
00:52:10,521 --> 00:52:11,961
that's our lives now.
911
00:52:14,601 --> 00:52:16,561
I would love to wake up
and go to school
912
00:52:16,681 --> 00:52:18,321
and not have to worry
about dying.
913
00:52:19,001 --> 00:52:21,681
Not have to worry about
getting a bulletproof backpack.
914
00:52:23,761 --> 00:52:25,001
That sucks.
915
00:52:26,321 --> 00:52:27,641
It sure does.
916
00:52:28,881 --> 00:52:30,681
When do you have to do
your debate?
917
00:52:32,001 --> 00:52:34,161
- Wednesday.
- Are you ready?
918
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,890
No...
919
00:52:35,921 --> 00:52:37,481
I have to memorize the speech.
920
00:52:38,921 --> 00:52:41,641
So do you remember
how you’re starting your speech?
921
00:52:42,401 --> 00:52:44,001
Run, hide, fight.
922
00:52:45,361 --> 00:52:47,552
Run. Hide. Fight.
923
00:52:48,441 --> 00:52:50,761
Three words you think
you would never need to know
924
00:52:50,881 --> 00:52:52,561
especially at school.
925
00:52:53,201 --> 00:52:54,761
You would think
school is a place to learn
926
00:52:54,881 --> 00:52:58,081
but right now, it feels like
it could be a place to die.
927
00:52:59,401 --> 00:53:02,001
America shouldn't be like this.
928
00:53:02,481 --> 00:53:05,161
Schools shouldn't be like this.
929
00:53:05,641 --> 00:53:07,761
We need to become
the kind of country that says
930
00:53:07,881 --> 00:53:09,921
lives of children
are more valuable
931
00:53:10,041 --> 00:53:11,921
than the right to weapons
that have killed them.
932
00:53:12,001 --> 00:53:13,681
Time and time again.
933
00:53:14,201 --> 00:53:15,521
Since Columbine.
934
00:53:15,641 --> 00:53:17,001
Since Sandy Hook.
935
00:53:17,201 --> 00:53:18,441
Since Red Lake.
936
00:53:18,681 --> 00:53:20,521
Since West Nickel Mines.
937
00:53:20,681 --> 00:53:21,961
Since Virginia Tech.
938
00:53:22,241 --> 00:53:23,481
Since Oikos.
939
00:53:23,681 --> 00:53:24,801
Since Umpqua.
940
00:53:25,081 --> 00:53:28,005
Since Parkland. Since Santa Fe.
Since Uvalde.
941
00:53:28,121 --> 00:53:29,721
Since Northern Illinois's.
942
00:53:29,825 --> 00:53:32,716
Since UT. Since West Side.
Since Iowa.
943
00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:34,536
Since Michigan State.
Since Nashville.
944
00:53:34,561 --> 00:53:35,743
Since...
945
00:53:38,841 --> 00:53:41,401
The fact that I can name
hundreds more makes me sick.
946
00:53:42,601 --> 00:53:44,361
The question it comes down to
947
00:53:44,561 --> 00:53:46,241
is kids or guns.
948
00:53:54,321 --> 00:53:56,321
The Uvalde shooter
reportedly used
949
00:53:56,441 --> 00:53:58,881
an AR-15 style
semi-automatic rifle
950
00:53:59,001 --> 00:54:01,561
in the bloodbath
at Robb Elementary School
951
00:54:01,681 --> 00:54:03,001
in Uvalde, Texas
952
00:54:03,401 --> 00:54:05,441
which is three hours
away from us.
953
00:54:08,001 --> 00:54:10,921
It took nearly 77 minutes
954
00:54:11,041 --> 00:54:14,881
for nearly
400 law enforcement officers
955
00:54:15,161 --> 00:54:17,961
to face an 18 year old
with an AR-15
956
00:54:18,281 --> 00:54:21,281
who murdered 21 people
in just minutes.
957
00:54:23,241 --> 00:54:25,721
Many were unidentifiable.
958
00:54:47,321 --> 00:54:48,961
I grew up in Uvalde.
959
00:54:50,521 --> 00:54:51,921
I was a bookworm.
960
00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:53,441
I always loved reading.
961
00:54:55,241 --> 00:54:57,921
I was much you know,
very much a rule follower.
962
00:55:00,241 --> 00:55:01,321
One time
963
00:55:01,441 --> 00:55:02,801
I was chewing gum in class
964
00:55:02,921 --> 00:55:04,881
and I got sent
to lunch detention
965
00:55:05,001 --> 00:55:06,201
because I was
chewing gum in class
966
00:55:06,321 --> 00:55:07,761
and that was not allowed.
967
00:55:08,001 --> 00:55:10,601
And that was the only time
I ever got in trouble.
968
00:55:11,081 --> 00:55:12,441
Are you still a rule follower?
969
00:55:12,561 --> 00:55:13,721
Because that's really funny
that you say
970
00:55:13,841 --> 00:55:15,601
chewing gum is like the worst...
971
00:55:16,881 --> 00:55:18,361
Yes, yes.
972
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,760
Good girl!
973
00:55:22,281 --> 00:55:23,481
When I was in second grade
974
00:55:23,601 --> 00:55:25,521
my teacher asked me
to go up to the board
975
00:55:25,641 --> 00:55:27,441
and I was showing something
to the students.
976
00:55:27,561 --> 00:55:28,881
I think we were doing math.
977
00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:31,761
I liked it.
I like being up there
978
00:55:31,881 --> 00:55:33,441
and, you know,
the class following me.
979
00:55:33,561 --> 00:55:34,601
And since then
980
00:55:35,361 --> 00:55:36,881
I always knew
that's what I wanted to do.
981
00:55:37,001 --> 00:55:38,321
I wanted to be a teacher.
982
00:55:39,561 --> 00:55:41,441
I started in 1993.
983
00:55:41,801 --> 00:55:44,201
So 30 years I've been teaching.
984
00:55:45,601 --> 00:55:46,641
I loved it.
985
00:55:47,721 --> 00:55:49,081
And then it just turned...
986
00:55:49,201 --> 00:55:51,201
you know, everything went bad.
987
00:55:53,561 --> 00:55:55,881
On May 24th
988
00:55:56,001 --> 00:55:58,641
we only had
three more days of school to go.
989
00:55:58,761 --> 00:56:00,641
So we...
That day we were doing
990
00:56:00,761 --> 00:56:02,921
some STEM projects
with newspaper.
991
00:56:05,001 --> 00:56:06,521
We were going to have
a little race
992
00:56:06,641 --> 00:56:09,081
and they were going to try out
their newspaper shoes
993
00:56:09,401 --> 00:56:12,401
to see who made
the sturdiest shoes.
994
00:56:14,161 --> 00:56:16,161
So we took some pictures.
995
00:56:17,401 --> 00:56:19,641
I think we took
about four or five pictures.
996
00:56:19,761 --> 00:56:21,681
And so then they lined up
997
00:56:21,801 --> 00:56:23,721
and we're getting ready
to go outside.
998
00:56:23,841 --> 00:56:25,081
And then my line leader
999
00:56:25,201 --> 00:56:28,201
she's looking out the window
and she says
1000
00:56:28,761 --> 00:56:29,761
“Miss... ”
1001
00:56:30,121 --> 00:56:31,801
“Miss Deming’s class
came in...
1002
00:56:32,881 --> 00:56:35,321
“screaming and
they ran in the room
1003
00:56:35,441 --> 00:56:36,881
and they slammed the door.”
1004
00:56:37,681 --> 00:56:38,575
And I said
1005
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,480
“let me see what's,
what's going on.”
1006
00:56:40,681 --> 00:56:41,561
So then, um...
1007
00:56:41,681 --> 00:56:43,961
she moves out of the way
and I open the door
1008
00:56:44,081 --> 00:56:45,161
and I...
1009
00:56:45,441 --> 00:56:47,241
poke my head
out into the hallway
1010
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,336
to see, you know
1011
00:56:48,361 --> 00:56:50,201
if I could see what's going on.
1012
00:56:50,321 --> 00:56:52,761
And when I do that,
I hear somebody screaming
1013
00:56:52,881 --> 00:56:55,481
“Get in your rooms,
get in your rooms!”
1014
00:56:55,601 --> 00:56:58,881
So immediately I know
something is going on.
1015
00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:02,601
I slam the door shut.
1016
00:57:03,321 --> 00:57:04,721
I turn off the lights.
1017
00:57:07,161 --> 00:57:11,041
We had blackout curtains
so the room was very dark.
1018
00:57:12,281 --> 00:57:14,201
They all start running
to the corner
1019
00:57:14,321 --> 00:57:17,321
where we usually do
our lock down drill
1020
00:57:18,241 --> 00:57:19,921
and as soon as we're doing that
1021
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320
we start hearing
the shots in the hallway.
1022
00:57:26,281 --> 00:57:27,841
Some of the girls start crying
1023
00:57:27,961 --> 00:57:30,081
and I'm trying to
calm them down.
1024
00:57:32,161 --> 00:57:33,401
And I feel
1025
00:57:33,521 --> 00:57:34,801
something hit me...
1026
00:57:35,041 --> 00:57:36,321
in my stomach.
1027
00:57:37,401 --> 00:57:40,961
And so I put my hand
immediately on there and...
1028
00:57:41,201 --> 00:57:43,481
And then I see
that I have blood.
1029
00:57:44,161 --> 00:57:45,841
So I tell the kids
1030
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,040
“Oh, no...”
1031
00:57:47,081 --> 00:57:48,081
“I’m shot.”
1032
00:57:48,561 --> 00:57:50,201
“Is anybody else hurt?”
1033
00:57:52,321 --> 00:57:54,241
They say, “No, no.”
1034
00:57:54,361 --> 00:57:57,361
And then by that point,
I fall to the floor.
1035
00:57:59,801 --> 00:58:01,961
This bullet had to go through
1036
00:58:02,401 --> 00:58:04,401
three walls to get to me.
1037
00:58:06,801 --> 00:58:08,001
And...
1038
00:58:08,961 --> 00:58:11,041
and we keep hearing,
we keep hearing...
1039
00:58:11,521 --> 00:58:12,881
Shots. More and more shots.
1040
00:58:13,001 --> 00:58:15,361
And it just sounds like,
one right after the other
1041
00:58:15,481 --> 00:58:17,561
like that, just
fire, fire, fire.
1042
00:58:17,681 --> 00:58:19,241
And, um...
1043
00:58:20,801 --> 00:58:22,801
They're scared.
They’re scared for me.
1044
00:58:24,081 --> 00:58:25,561
But I tell them
we need to stay down.
1045
00:58:25,681 --> 00:58:27,241
We need to stay quiet.
1046
00:58:28,401 --> 00:58:29,709
And, um...
1047
00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:31,561
I was praying, you know
1048
00:58:31,681 --> 00:58:33,601
I didn't want to die
in front of my kids.
1049
00:58:33,721 --> 00:58:34,921
I didn't want them
1050
00:58:35,041 --> 00:58:36,561
you know, to go through that.
1051
00:58:40,281 --> 00:58:42,601
And then, my little girls,
some of my little girls
1052
00:58:42,721 --> 00:58:45,081
that were next to me
were patting me
1053
00:58:45,201 --> 00:58:46,321
and they were telling me
1054
00:58:46,641 --> 00:58:48,361
“We love you, Miss.
You’re going to be okay.”
1055
00:58:48,601 --> 00:58:50,041
“It's okay.”
1056
00:59:11,161 --> 00:59:13,601
So they were
very, very brave.
1057
00:59:27,601 --> 00:59:29,201
So what do you feel about
1058
00:59:29,321 --> 00:59:31,561
teaching kids
1059
00:59:32,481 --> 00:59:35,361
to go hide behind the corner
to protect yourself
1060
00:59:35,481 --> 00:59:37,961
from a guy
with a weapon like that?
1061
00:59:39,121 --> 00:59:40,801
That doesn't make sense, right?
1062
00:59:40,921 --> 00:59:44,561
The kids knowing what to do and,
you know, trying to stay safe
1063
00:59:45,721 --> 00:59:48,681
helped in my,
in my classroom
1064
00:59:48,801 --> 00:59:52,241
but in the classrooms where
he was able to get in, you know
1065
00:59:52,401 --> 00:59:54,081
there was really nothing
they could do.
1066
00:59:54,201 --> 00:59:57,041
There was nowhere to hide,
you know.
1067
00:59:57,161 --> 00:59:58,401
If the same thing
would have been
1068
00:59:58,521 --> 01:00:00,601
in my classroom too,
if he had entered...
1069
01:00:01,041 --> 01:00:02,401
There really wasn't...
1070
01:00:03,441 --> 01:00:05,601
much, that we could have done.
1071
01:00:05,721 --> 01:00:06,921
So, um...
1072
01:00:08,841 --> 01:00:10,721
I really don't know that
1073
01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:13,041
the drills are
the solution either.
1074
01:00:13,161 --> 01:00:14,344
We need...
1075
01:00:14,721 --> 01:00:15,938
we need more.
1076
01:00:45,801 --> 01:00:47,801
In the beginning,
it was so hard.
1077
01:00:48,681 --> 01:00:51,601
In the hospital,
the first two weeks...
1078
01:00:52,681 --> 01:00:55,001
I couldn't tolerate any noises.
1079
01:00:55,321 --> 01:00:58,401
Any sudden sounds
would trigger me back.
1080
01:01:08,401 --> 01:01:10,041
Whenever I would
1081
01:01:10,161 --> 01:01:11,641
hear noises, I would...
1082
01:01:12,601 --> 01:01:13,681
I would start panicking
1083
01:01:13,801 --> 01:01:16,241
and I would start crying
uncontrollably.
1084
01:01:18,201 --> 01:01:21,281
I couldn't be around anybody.
I just had my sister.
1085
01:01:31,481 --> 01:01:32,601
I did everything.
1086
01:01:32,721 --> 01:01:34,841
You know,
I followed all the protocol
1087
01:01:35,201 --> 01:01:36,481
for the drills and everything.
1088
01:01:36,601 --> 01:01:38,961
I still ended up
getting injured.
1089
01:01:39,081 --> 01:01:40,961
He never came to my classroom,
but I still ended up...
1090
01:01:41,081 --> 01:01:43,921
So it's like you say,
how do you prepare for that?
1091
01:01:44,041 --> 01:01:46,401
Wear a bulletproof vest
every day, I guess, I mean...
1092
01:01:46,521 --> 01:01:48,881
- Bulletproof walls?
- Bulletproof everything.
1093
01:01:49,481 --> 01:01:51,401
Bulletproof our life. I mean...
1094
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,776
Live in a bubble?
1095
01:01:52,801 --> 01:01:55,361
Live in a bubble?
It’s crazy.
1096
01:01:56,201 --> 01:01:59,321
Because now even y'all here now,
are doing the drills, right?
1097
01:02:00,601 --> 01:02:01,801
It's supposed to be instant.
1098
01:02:01,921 --> 01:02:03,841
So, when they tell you:
do this
1099
01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:05,441
you automatically know
what to do.
1100
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,336
Yeah, I just sit in my office.
1101
01:02:07,361 --> 01:02:09,641
Okay, how am I going to dig
my way out of here?
1102
01:02:09,761 --> 01:02:13,361
- You know, I start thinking...
- I know, that’s scary.
1103
01:02:14,081 --> 01:02:16,521
That's me,
when I go somewhere...
1104
01:02:16,641 --> 01:02:18,081
Grab my gun.
1105
01:02:18,361 --> 01:02:19,921
Because I don't know
if she told you
1106
01:02:20,081 --> 01:02:21,321
I do carry a gun.
1107
01:02:21,721 --> 01:02:25,121
Do you really feel comfortable
stopping an active shooter?
1108
01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:26,281
If somebody is coming at me
1109
01:02:26,401 --> 01:02:27,961
you think
I'm not going to defend myself
1110
01:02:28,081 --> 01:02:29,761
If I know how to shoot back?
1111
01:02:30,481 --> 01:02:31,561
I wouldn't hesitate.
1112
01:02:33,521 --> 01:02:36,081
- I would not hesitate.
- You’re different than me.
1113
01:02:36,561 --> 01:02:38,641
I guess because you're
in a different setting.
1114
01:02:38,761 --> 01:02:41,161
You're in an office
and you're by yourself.
1115
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,638
I'm with...
1116
01:02:42,663 --> 01:02:44,561
- You're with kids.
- 20 kids, you know.
1117
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,800
You're with kids.
1118
01:02:45,841 --> 01:02:47,521
I would have to think, you know.
1119
01:02:47,641 --> 01:02:49,161
Well no, even then.
1120
01:02:50,001 --> 01:02:51,081
More so.
1121
01:02:51,321 --> 01:02:53,121
- To protect them?
- To protect them.
1122
01:02:53,841 --> 01:02:56,121
- Then I’m not a gun person
- You're not a gun person.
1123
01:02:56,241 --> 01:02:57,961
You're afraid of guns.
1124
01:02:58,041 --> 01:03:00,561
You don't like,
You don't like them at all.
1125
01:03:00,681 --> 01:03:02,161
I've never been afraid of them.
1126
01:03:02,281 --> 01:03:03,441
We're just different that way.
1127
01:03:03,561 --> 01:03:04,675
Yeah.
1128
01:03:06,761 --> 01:03:10,161
I even practice
to make sure that
1129
01:03:12,241 --> 01:03:14,521
I shoot, you know...
1130
01:03:15,201 --> 01:03:17,241
to stop the person.
1131
01:03:17,361 --> 01:03:19,681
How do you how to,
where to stop them.
1132
01:03:19,801 --> 01:03:22,121
- Where do you have to shoot?
- Body mass.
1133
01:03:22,601 --> 01:03:24,601
- I don’t even...
- Or artery.
1134
01:03:25,361 --> 01:03:26,961
But that's harder
to shoot up here.
1135
01:03:27,081 --> 01:03:28,681
That's why you,
full body mass.
1136
01:03:28,721 --> 01:03:30,801
But wouldn't you shoot
at their hand...
1137
01:03:30,921 --> 01:03:31,961
Their shooting hand?
1138
01:03:32,121 --> 01:03:33,921
No, because if you miss,
they're going to shoot you.
1139
01:03:34,041 --> 01:03:36,001
That's true. See?
1140
01:03:36,121 --> 01:03:38,441
So y'all study all that
when you take those classes?
1141
01:03:38,521 --> 01:03:40,001
- Yes.
- Oh, ok.
1142
01:03:41,081 --> 01:03:42,441
Now you know, sister.
1143
01:03:43,321 --> 01:03:44,921
We should feel safe
when we're around you.
1144
01:03:45,041 --> 01:03:46,521
I guess you can protect us.
1145
01:03:46,641 --> 01:03:48,281
Well, I’m going to try, yeah.
1146
01:03:49,881 --> 01:03:51,121
That's true.
1147
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,640
How many more guns
1148
01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:21,681
do people
in the United States need
1149
01:04:21,841 --> 01:04:23,561
to feel better, to feel safe?
1150
01:04:24,761 --> 01:04:26,241
There is no end to it.
1151
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,136
Uvalde, Texas.
1152
01:04:30,161 --> 01:04:31,481
There were so many good guys
1153
01:04:31,601 --> 01:04:35,481
standing outside
and not confronting the bad guy.
1154
01:04:35,801 --> 01:04:39,681
So how long can we just fixate
on the bad guy.
1155
01:04:49,561 --> 01:04:50,841
I don't want to become
this person
1156
01:04:50,961 --> 01:04:52,521
that feels the need
to go get a gun
1157
01:04:52,641 --> 01:04:53,670
to protect myself.
1158
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Yeah.
1159
01:04:54,881 --> 01:04:56,441
I just don't want to be
like that.
1160
01:04:57,041 --> 01:04:58,081
That person.
1161
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,256
And I don’t...
1162
01:04:59,281 --> 01:05:01,921
I just don't want to worry
about her the whole time.
1163
01:05:02,041 --> 01:05:04,601
And I don't want her
to grow up like that, so...
1164
01:05:05,241 --> 01:05:06,486
You know.
1165
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,440
I don't want her
to think about all this shit.
1166
01:05:13,481 --> 01:05:14,761
It’s ridiculous.
1167
01:05:20,521 --> 01:05:24,241
Yeah, to live in fear
is just a horrible way to live.
1168
01:05:25,041 --> 01:05:27,961
I don't think people realize
the effects that it has on you
1169
01:05:28,081 --> 01:05:29,201
- and your well-being.
- No.
1170
01:05:29,281 --> 01:05:30,397
If you’re...
1171
01:05:31,641 --> 01:05:32,961
afraid to send
your kid to school
1172
01:05:33,041 --> 01:05:34,641
You're afraid
to go to the grocery store.
1173
01:05:35,241 --> 01:05:37,201
So for me,
this is not a safe place
1174
01:05:37,321 --> 01:05:38,521
for a kid to grow up.
1175
01:05:39,961 --> 01:05:41,681
I don't want to
have that anymore.
1176
01:05:43,681 --> 01:05:44,921
It's not worth it.
1177
01:05:45,441 --> 01:05:47,201
- No, it’s not.
- It's not worth it.
1178
01:06:03,521 --> 01:06:05,881
I think after all of this, that
1179
01:06:06,001 --> 01:06:08,641
me and my husband
kind of came to the conclusion
1180
01:06:10,041 --> 01:06:14,161
that we should raise our kid
in Belgium and not here.
1181
01:06:14,401 --> 01:06:15,641
Not only because
1182
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,840
there might be a school shooting
1183
01:06:16,881 --> 01:06:19,241
but also, there might be
a drill going wrong
1184
01:06:19,361 --> 01:06:20,841
there might be a teacher
that loses it
1185
01:06:20,961 --> 01:06:22,753
that is carrying a gun,
you know.
1186
01:06:24,721 --> 01:06:26,641
Yeah, I...
1187
01:06:27,281 --> 01:06:28,721
I don't fault you
for your thinking
1188
01:06:28,841 --> 01:06:30,881
and for your logic.
And I can only imagine
1189
01:06:31,401 --> 01:06:33,561
how kind of jarring, or shocking
1190
01:06:33,681 --> 01:06:36,241
coming here and seeing
this firsthand must be.
1191
01:06:36,401 --> 01:06:39,081
It really must be,
quite the experience.
1192
01:06:40,921 --> 01:06:42,001
It is, yeah.
1193
01:06:42,121 --> 01:06:44,041
It is an embarrassment when...
1194
01:06:44,361 --> 01:06:46,521
we all think we live
in the best country in the world
1195
01:06:46,641 --> 01:06:49,641
and we can't really solve
this problem.
1196
01:06:49,761 --> 01:06:51,681
And other countries
really don't have this problem.
1197
01:06:51,881 --> 01:06:54,441
Because I do think there are
steps that could be done
1198
01:06:54,601 --> 01:06:57,601
but we just have chosen not
to do it for whatever reason.
1199
01:06:57,761 --> 01:06:59,601
It saddens me to see
1200
01:07:00,201 --> 01:07:01,801
you say something like that.
1201
01:07:01,961 --> 01:07:04,161
And I get where
you're coming from.
1202
01:07:08,001 --> 01:07:10,001
I would absolutely leave.
1203
01:07:11,241 --> 01:07:13,681
It's not to say
there aren't good people here.
1204
01:07:13,881 --> 01:07:16,921
And it's not to say
that changes aren't happening.
1205
01:07:17,041 --> 01:07:18,761
They're just not happening
fast enough.
1206
01:07:18,881 --> 01:07:21,921
And why would you stay
if you have another option.
1207
01:07:23,961 --> 01:07:26,001
Do y’all have
lockdown drills in Belgium?
1208
01:07:26,241 --> 01:07:28,521
No we don’t.
We never had one.
1209
01:07:28,681 --> 01:07:31,201
- Ever?
- Ever.
1210
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,000
We also never had
a school shooting.
1211
01:07:40,881 --> 01:07:43,321
Oh my gosh...
1212
01:07:44,401 --> 01:07:46,601
That's crazy.
1213
01:07:49,696 --> 01:07:52,096
So, and here's
the question I ask.
1214
01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:54,921
Okay, so yeah,
you have a problem with this.
1215
01:07:55,041 --> 01:07:56,601
What's your solution?
1216
01:07:56,841 --> 01:07:58,361
How should we protect kids?
1217
01:07:58,481 --> 01:08:00,561
How should we save kids’ lives?
1218
01:08:02,281 --> 01:08:05,121
The best way to do that
within our laws over here
1219
01:08:05,241 --> 01:08:07,721
is to use deadly force
with a firearm.
1220
01:08:09,921 --> 01:08:11,601
And that's just the way it is.
1221
01:08:14,801 --> 01:08:16,681
And it's always
going to be like that.
90817
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