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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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There ought to be a law,
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nobody under 18
sits in first class.
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Especially the red-eye.
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That little boy was so cute.
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He didn't spill
his apple juice in your lap.
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I'm still sticky.
I'm gonna take a shower.
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You sure your sister doesn't
mind letting us use her loft?
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Why should she mind?
She's halfway to London.
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Meryl!
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Victim's Lucy Young.
It's her place.
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This woman was loaded.
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Upstairs neighbor said
she lived alone.
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Parents are both deceased.
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No boyfriend they can remember.
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She bled through to
the apartment downstairs?
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Her hands were severed
at the wrists.
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ED: Where are they?
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Under the coffee table.
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Rings are still on the fingers.
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The knife matches
the set in the kitchen.
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Masking tape on her mouth,
her own kitchen knives...
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The guy didn't bring
his own tools.
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Beside the cutting
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there's blunt-force trauma
to the back of her head.
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Let me guess,
he used the blender.
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Whatever he used,
it fractured her skull.
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I make time of death
around midnight.
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ED: Lenny.
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Blood imprint on the table.
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Waffle pattern.
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Looks like it could be
the grip of a gun.
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What about witnesses?
Still canvassing.
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Building manager any help?
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He got here before we did.
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He found a can of pepper spray
just inside the building.
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Starts with a push-in
off the street,
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she tries to ward him off
with the pepper spray.
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I guess he overreacted.
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HOWARD: Lucy was like
most of our neighbors.
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We'd say "hi" to each other,
but that's about it.
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But she'd always warm up
when I was with the baby.
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ED: What did
she do for a living?
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Some kind of fund-raiser
work for charities, I think.
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When was the last time
you saw her?
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Yesterday morning. I was on my way to
work, and she was trying to catch a cab.
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What about you?
A few days ago.
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What about last night? Either of you
notice anything out of the ordinary?
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I came home about 7:00, and Beth
and I never left the house.
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ED: Mrs. Miller?
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There was something
a little before 9:00.
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Howard was in the shower and I was
trying to get the baby to sleep.
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The buzzer rang
and a man asked for Lucy.
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Don't tell me you buzzed him in.
I didn't.
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I just told him
she lived in six.
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He sounded like he knew her.
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He just had the wrong floor.
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Detectives, we got
a witness up the block.
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Thanks.
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I was coming back from
my parents' place.
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It was around 10:30, and a
guy was sitting on the steps
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over there at the loading dock.
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What did he look like?
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He was white, he had dark hair,
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I would say about 40. I would
recognize him if I saw him again.
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You ever notice him
around here before?
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No. I do see
people sleeping
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there all the time,
but this guy wasn't homeless.
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It might have been one of your
neighbors just out for some fresh air.
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I don't think so.
He looked
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like he was waiting
for someone.
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BRISCOE: You read his mind?
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No. He gave me the once-over when I walked by.
Maybe he thought I was someone else.
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A clear view of
the victim's front door.
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Somebody left some garbage.
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(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
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Hey, we ain't open yet.
Yeah, you are.
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Who cleans up out here?
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Me.
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How often do you sweep up?
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Every night before
we close up. 5:00.
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So this garbage wasn't out here
when you went home last night?
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No, sir. Your company
have a night watchman?
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Not for a couple of years.
All right, thanks.
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"Drug Hut."
Receipt?
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Empty. Let's bag it off
for prints.
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Our witness is in with the sketch artist
and as soon as the composite's done,
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we'll circulate it
with the local Drug Huts.
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We have a psycho on our hands?
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Well, the guy didn't just stumble onto Lucy Young.
He knew her name and
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where she lived.
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M.E. said
she put up a fight, too.
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Navy blue fibers underneath
her fingernails.
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Well, that corroborates
your witness.
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M.E. also says that she was
knocked out cold by something
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with a distinct, hard edge, an inch or
two in length, then her wrists were cut.
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Yeah, there was a waffle pattern
similar to a gun handle
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imprinted in the blood
on the coffee table.
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Sexual assault?
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No. No evidence
of penetration, no fluids.
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No rape, no robbery? Why not just
shoot her and be done with it?
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ED: Too much noise?
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Or a big score to settle.
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We got the names of some of her
friends from her Palm Pilot.
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Check 'em out.
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I was Lucy's roommate
at Vassar.
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About the closest
friend she had.
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Ms. Young have
any enemies?
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Do you think she was killed
by somebody she knew?
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Well, the way she was killed,
Ms. Fadden, it's a possibility.
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What do you mean?
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Her hands were severed.
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Are you all right?
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I've known Lucy 15 years.
I can't imagine
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her mixed-up with
anybody capable of that.
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Her neighbors said
she worked with charities.
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She was a charity. Her father
left her millions of dollars.
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Who'd she give her money to?
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Actors, artists, musicians.
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The further out of the
mainstream, the better.
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Any of these charity types
giving her any trouble?
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She was having problems with
an artist that she helped out.
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I overheard a phone call,
and Lucy was in tears.
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ED: She say
any more about it?
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All I know is,
it was about money.
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Who would know the whole story?
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Arnie Fields,
Lucy's business manager.
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I never had a client
who was murdered.
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Her friend said she was having
some problems with an artist.
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Well, I know she bought a
piece of sculpture recently.
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From where?
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Uh... Here.
(GRUNTING)
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A check for $25,000
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payable to Erica Yelin.
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Mind if I take a look?
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This Yelin an artist?
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I think so.
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A check made to cash for a
hundred grand, on the 3rd.
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What was that about?
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That kind of money changes hands a week
before a murder, we need to look into it.
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The money was for Paul
Radford, the art dealer.
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The Radford Gallery? He's not
one of her charity cases.
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Well, I assumed Lucy bought
some more art.
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Why with cash? She
would've given him a check
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for appraisal purposes,
like she did with Yelin.
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She never told me
what it was for.
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Lucy intended our affairs
to be confidential.
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Unfortunately, she's not
here to confirm that.
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Where were you Tuesday night,
Mr. Radford, around midnight?
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At my gallery, paying bills,
answering some letters.
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Alone?
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Yes. You don't seriously think I
was involved in this horror show?
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She gave you a hundred thousand
dollars and you won't tell us why.
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Lucy backed a number of up-and-coming
artists with that money.
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Why'd she need you?
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I was her talent scout.
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So, she just handed you a wad of
cash with no strings attached?
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Take a look around, Detective.
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Most of this art was given to me by
artists I discovered and nurtured.
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Lucy wanted to be
a part of the magic.
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The money was
a small price to pay.
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Show us your paperwork, we'll
let you get back to your magic.
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I don't feel comfortable
with that.
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Maybe you'd be more
comfortable at the precinct.
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I'm sure you understand.
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These were cash incentives.
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As in undeclared income?
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We're looking for a murderer,
not a bunch of tax cheats.
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I'm sorry, I don't think
you speak for the IRS.
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I'll have to refer you
to my lawyer.
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Radford doesn't strike me as a guy
who'd get his silk robe bloody.
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If he's just a talent scout,
why is he scared of the IRS?
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So what? She pepper
sprays a guy she knows?
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Maybe the artist she bought the sculpture
from was one of these up-and-comers.
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Paul Radford is
an arrogant bastard,
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but he's good at what he does.
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If your work needs
exposure, he's the man.
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Your work looks
pretty exposed already.
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That's what Lucy
liked about it.
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I'm gonna miss her.
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Well, I'm sure Radford can
find you another patron.
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Well, to tell you the truth,
Paul's not a big fan.
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We read that he showed your work at his
gallery on Long Island City last year.
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That was Lucy's doing.
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That gallery is
a launching pad,
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and I'd been trying to get
in there for a long time,
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but Paul kept dissing me.
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How did Ms. Young manage
to change his mind?
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All I know is Lucy was
impressed with my work,
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said she'd talk to Paul.
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And two weeks later,
I was in a group show there.
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Sounds like some money
changed hands.
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Well, if it did, it couldn't
have been too much.
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Why do you say that?
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I was supposed to have a solo show at
Paul's gallery in Chelsea next month,
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but I got a call from Lucy
this past weekend.
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Paul backed out.
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Well, Sam, it takes six
weeks, you know that.
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Paul.
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It takes six... It takes
six weeks to do that. Yep.
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What the hell is going on?
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We're gonna take a little ride,
to finish our discussion.
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There is nothing to discuss.
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You took Lucy Young's
money and stiffed her.
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She gave you a hundred grand to exhibit
Erica Yelin's show at your Chelsea gallery.
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You took the money
and you ran out.
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Close the door, please.
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What happened, Mr. Radford?
She threaten to expose you?
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Maybe you lopped off her hands to
make it look like some psycho.
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You have vivid imaginations.
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Erica's show was canceled
because her work isn't selling.
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Lucy even had to buy
one of her pieces.
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And the money she paid me
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was to support a show
this summer.
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A water colorist
named Harvey Cornell.
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Why didn't you
tell us that before?
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I had to protect my reputation.
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I hold myself out as
a neutral arbiter of talent.
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Instead of a hustler for sale
to the highest bidder.
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Museums take secret commissions when
pieces they're exhibiting are sold.
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Remember the Sensation exhibit that caused
the big stir at the Brooklyn Museum?
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Charles Saatchi gave them money,
they exhibited art he owned.
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Nice scam. His art goes up in
value and he gets a write off.
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It's the way of my world,
Detective.
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I left here around 9:00
on Tuesday night.
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Was Mr. Radford
still here?
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He stayed to write some checks
and take care of some paperwork.
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Anybody who can verify
what time he left?
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I don't think so. But I'm pretty
sure he was here 'cause the next day
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he handed me a big stack of bills and
letters to run to the post office.
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Lennie, take a look.
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Who painted this?
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An artist named Mark Vee.
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He just had a show here.
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It's called Perfect Woman #3.
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Look, Ma, no hands.
And no mouth.
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A woman this perfect
had to be painted by a man.
242
00:11:34,346 --> 00:11:38,385
Mmm-hmm. Mark Vee, one of Art Digest's
painters to watch in the new millennium.
243
00:11:38,450 --> 00:11:40,158
What's his connection
to Lucy Young?
244
00:11:40,219 --> 00:11:43,564
Well, according to Paul Radford, she
backed him to the tune of 20 grand a year.
245
00:11:43,623 --> 00:11:45,830
Anything beyond a
professional relationship?
246
00:11:45,892 --> 00:11:47,667
Not that anybody knows about.
247
00:11:47,727 --> 00:11:50,936
Guy's got a couple of old
dope busts in Pittsburgh,
248
00:11:50,997 --> 00:11:53,671
and one obscenity
conviction in Cincinnati.
249
00:11:53,733 --> 00:11:54,905
Over this stuff?
250
00:11:54,967 --> 00:11:59,074
He went through a religious phase,
dipping holy images into bodily fluids.
251
00:11:59,138 --> 00:12:01,516
Ugh! I'm glad
he moved on.
252
00:12:01,574 --> 00:12:03,884
Any beefs between
him and Lucy Young?
253
00:12:03,943 --> 00:12:05,081
Not that we've heard of.
254
00:12:05,144 --> 00:12:08,648
Well, let's see what this
Mr. Vee has to say for himself.
255
00:12:10,616 --> 00:12:11,822
Too bad about Lucy.
256
00:12:11,884 --> 00:12:15,799
Sorry for your loss. Twenty grand
buys a lot of paint thinner.
257
00:12:15,856 --> 00:12:17,893
Lucy meant more to me
than money.
258
00:12:17,958 --> 00:12:19,596
Yeah? How so?
259
00:12:19,660 --> 00:12:22,140
She believed in my work.
260
00:12:22,196 --> 00:12:23,766
She must've had
a strong stomach.
261
00:12:23,831 --> 00:12:26,311
My art revolts you. Good.
262
00:12:26,367 --> 00:12:28,870
You know, Ms. Young's
hands were cut off.
263
00:12:30,571 --> 00:12:31,709
I didn't know.
264
00:12:31,772 --> 00:12:33,809
Remarkable coincidence,
don't you think?
265
00:12:33,874 --> 00:12:35,353
You mean my painting?
266
00:12:35,409 --> 00:12:37,286
It's definitely misogynistic.
267
00:12:37,344 --> 00:12:38,516
Whatever you say.
268
00:12:38,579 --> 00:12:41,890
How about you say where you were
the night Ms. Young was killed.
269
00:12:41,949 --> 00:12:43,553
You're investigating me?
270
00:12:43,617 --> 00:12:45,358
The killing resembles
your painting.
271
00:12:45,419 --> 00:12:47,831
I was with a reporter.
We were at Waterloo.
272
00:12:47,888 --> 00:12:49,765
(SIGHS) And
the reporter's name?
273
00:12:49,823 --> 00:12:53,067
Betsy Braun.
From Pitch magazine.
274
00:12:53,128 --> 00:12:56,405
I was at the bar with Mark
from 11:00 to about 2:00.
275
00:12:56,464 --> 00:12:57,909
He's a fascinating man.
276
00:12:57,966 --> 00:12:59,445
You like the stuff he paints?
277
00:12:59,501 --> 00:13:02,277
To tell you the truth, no.
But my editor does.
278
00:13:02,337 --> 00:13:06,410
How's that work? She signs your paycheck,
so you write him good reviews?
279
00:13:06,474 --> 00:13:08,579
This is more
of a personality piece.
280
00:13:08,643 --> 00:13:10,145
He's controversial.
281
00:13:10,211 --> 00:13:12,487
A lot of people are
offended by Mark's work.
282
00:13:12,547 --> 00:13:14,083
Anybody you're aware of?
283
00:13:14,149 --> 00:13:17,995
You know, there was a guy at the opening
who was harassing some of the guests.
284
00:13:18,053 --> 00:13:19,191
What do you mean, harassing?
285
00:13:19,254 --> 00:13:21,530
Well, he was saying things
like they should be ashamed
286
00:13:21,589 --> 00:13:24,297
for supporting Mark.
They asked him to leave.
287
00:13:24,359 --> 00:13:25,736
I followed him out
and tried to talk to him.
288
00:13:25,794 --> 00:13:27,638
Thought it'd be good
stuff for my article.
289
00:13:27,696 --> 00:13:29,198
Does he look
anything like this?
290
00:13:29,999 --> 00:13:31,034
A lot.
291
00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,170
Did you get his name?
292
00:13:32,234 --> 00:13:33,338
He wouldn't give it to me.
293
00:13:33,402 --> 00:13:34,847
But I think he's from Brooklyn.
294
00:13:34,904 --> 00:13:37,043
Why? He had a bad haircut?
295
00:13:37,106 --> 00:13:40,315
He was bitching about wasting an
hour and a half on the I train.
296
00:13:40,376 --> 00:13:41,411
Thank you.
297
00:13:43,012 --> 00:13:46,084
Hour and a half on the I train,
you'd wind up in Canarsie.
298
00:13:46,148 --> 00:13:48,458
Well, let's see how many
Drug Huts they got out there.
299
00:13:51,287 --> 00:13:54,734
Take a look, he may have been in
Tuesday night, bought something small.
300
00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:58,101
I was here then,
but I don't recognize him.
301
00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,198
We are gonna need your credit
card receipts for that night.
302
00:14:02,031 --> 00:14:03,443
Let's check with
the pharmacist.
303
00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:06,106
Why, figure our guy came in to
pick up something for his nerves?
304
00:14:06,169 --> 00:14:07,204
Guy lives in the neighborhood,
305
00:14:07,270 --> 00:14:09,272
he's gotta get sick
sooner or later.
306
00:14:09,339 --> 00:14:10,374
What can I do for you?
307
00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,249
You recognize him
from the neighborhood?
308
00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:17,187
Yeah, Claritin.
Ten milligrams, five refills.
309
00:14:18,181 --> 00:14:19,751
How about a name and address?
310
00:14:19,816 --> 00:14:21,159
I'll get it from our records.
311
00:14:24,221 --> 00:14:26,223
SARAH: Hey,
did 3G call you here?
312
00:14:26,289 --> 00:14:30,294
Larry likes to play opera at night, and
they've been complaining about the noise.
313
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,636
We're not here about
opera, ma'am.
314
00:14:32,696 --> 00:14:34,733
Uh, this is Larry's apartment.
315
00:14:34,798 --> 00:14:36,141
Uh, would you mind
seeing if he's home?
316
00:14:36,199 --> 00:14:39,204
Sure. Larry?
317
00:14:39,270 --> 00:14:41,011
It's Sarah.
The police are here.
318
00:14:41,072 --> 00:14:43,313
Uh, thanks. We'll
take it from here.
319
00:14:46,077 --> 00:14:47,715
Larry Brunig?
320
00:14:47,778 --> 00:14:48,813
Uh: yes?
321
00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,190
I'm Detective Green. This is
my partner, Detective Briscoe.
322
00:14:52,149 --> 00:14:54,595
BRISCOE: Where were you
last Tuesday night?
323
00:14:54,652 --> 00:14:55,892
Why?
324
00:14:55,953 --> 00:14:58,559
It's been a long day. Can we do this
without a whole lot of conversation?
325
00:15:00,224 --> 00:15:03,068
Well, I left work around 5:30.
326
00:15:03,561 --> 00:15:05,199
Got here at little after 6:30.
327
00:15:05,263 --> 00:15:07,334
You went straight home
from the subway?
328
00:15:07,398 --> 00:15:08,775
I stopped at
the Drug Hut first.
329
00:15:10,601 --> 00:15:12,012
And then?
330
00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:13,946
Stayed home.
331
00:15:14,005 --> 00:15:15,508
You know a woman
named Lucy Young?
332
00:15:16,909 --> 00:15:17,979
No.
333
00:15:18,043 --> 00:15:20,023
How about Mark Vee?
334
00:15:20,078 --> 00:15:21,148
No.
335
00:15:21,213 --> 00:15:24,217
And I suppose you have never been
to the Paul Radford Gallery?
336
00:15:24,283 --> 00:15:26,524
No, I haven't.
337
00:15:26,585 --> 00:15:28,189
Are you sure I'm the person
you want to talk to?
338
00:15:29,588 --> 00:15:33,229
Maybe we're wrong. Look, do you mind if
I use your phone? My battery went dead.
339
00:15:34,293 --> 00:15:37,331
Oh, gee, I'm sorry. I'm waiting for a
call from my doctor. My mother's ill.
340
00:15:38,864 --> 00:15:40,866
So...
Sorry about that.
341
00:15:45,237 --> 00:15:49,014
The magazine reporter picked Brunig's
DMV photo out of a six pack.
342
00:15:49,074 --> 00:15:51,419
Says he was the troublemaker
at Vee's opening.
343
00:15:51,477 --> 00:15:54,321
Well, that's a start. What
about Lucy Young's neighbor?
344
00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:55,552
She couldn't make the photo.
345
00:15:55,615 --> 00:15:57,526
Brunig did say he went
to the Drug Hut that night.
346
00:15:57,584 --> 00:15:58,756
Were his prints on the bag?
347
00:15:58,818 --> 00:16:00,024
Latent couldn't lift anything.
348
00:16:00,086 --> 00:16:02,862
Well, see if you can tie him
directly to Lucy Young.
349
00:16:02,922 --> 00:16:05,664
Talk to the artist. If Brunig
made trouble at the gallery,
350
00:16:05,725 --> 00:16:08,035
maybe he made trouble
somewhere else.
351
00:16:10,697 --> 00:16:12,677
I don't remember him
from my opening.
352
00:16:12,732 --> 00:16:15,110
Course, I was feeling
pretty good that night.
353
00:16:15,168 --> 00:16:18,479
Was it public knowledge that
Lucy Young was backing you?
354
00:16:18,538 --> 00:16:20,017
Not too many people
knew about it.
355
00:16:20,073 --> 00:16:22,110
Lucy didn't want
to catch any flack.
356
00:16:22,175 --> 00:16:25,645
Any way this guy Brunig could have gleaned
it from one of the art periodicals?
357
00:16:26,046 --> 00:16:29,858
My girlfriend clips my reviews.
You're free to look at 'em.
358
00:16:30,451 --> 00:16:31,452
Sure.
359
00:16:31,819 --> 00:16:33,423
I have some calls to make.
360
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,274
"Mark Vee has tweaked more
than a few old-school noses"
361
00:16:43,330 --> 00:16:46,174
"bravely defying the conventions
of political correctness."
362
00:16:47,234 --> 00:16:49,612
Daily Ledger.
Letters to the editor.
363
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:52,310
"Artists like Mark Vee
threaten our moral fiber."
364
00:16:52,373 --> 00:16:54,319
"Why must philanthropists
like Lucy Young"
365
00:16:54,375 --> 00:16:56,855
"patronize the most decadent
elements of our culture?"
366
00:16:56,910 --> 00:16:58,082
Signed?
367
00:16:58,379 --> 00:17:00,381
Name withheld on request.
368
00:17:04,919 --> 00:17:07,763
Our newspaper receives, thousands
of letters every year.
369
00:17:07,822 --> 00:17:11,167
Our policy is to respect the privacy
wishes of our correspondents.
370
00:17:11,226 --> 00:17:14,264
Your editorial policy
is not a legal privilege.
371
00:17:14,329 --> 00:17:16,866
Ever hear of the First
Amendment, Ms. Carmichael?
372
00:17:16,931 --> 00:17:18,911
Our readers need to be able
to express themselves
373
00:17:18,967 --> 00:17:21,641
without fear of intimidation
or retribution.
374
00:17:21,703 --> 00:17:25,241
There's no promise of confidentiality
made by the paper, Your Honor.
375
00:17:25,306 --> 00:17:29,254
Well, that's true, Mr. Ervin.
These are unsolicited letters.
376
00:17:29,311 --> 00:17:32,190
Ms. Carmichael is marching us
down the slippery slope, Judge.
377
00:17:32,247 --> 00:17:35,558
And Mr. Ervin could be protecting
the identity of a vicious murderer.
378
00:17:36,451 --> 00:17:39,023
(SCOFFS) Doesn't sound like this
letter was written by Hannibal Lecter.
379
00:17:39,088 --> 00:17:42,069
Is this a fishing expedition
or do you have a suspect?
380
00:17:42,124 --> 00:17:43,569
Larry Brunig.
381
00:17:43,626 --> 00:17:45,128
Let me see the original letter.
382
00:17:45,194 --> 00:17:47,435
If Brunig wrote it,
I'll order disclosure.
383
00:17:51,167 --> 00:17:53,147
I'm sorry, Ms. Carmichael.
Not your guy.
384
00:17:54,136 --> 00:17:57,015
And I'm inclined to protect
this writer's anonymity.
385
00:17:58,841 --> 00:18:02,653
Judge, the paper may not print every letter
it receives on a controversial subject.
386
00:18:03,412 --> 00:18:05,517
Well, that's true.
Isn't it, Mr. Ervin?
387
00:18:05,581 --> 00:18:09,723
Sure. Our editor may use one letter to
represent a segment of public opinion.
388
00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,196
Are there unprinted letters
on this subject?
389
00:18:12,254 --> 00:18:13,460
It's possible.
390
00:18:13,523 --> 00:18:16,094
Well, if there are any from Larry
Brunig, turn it over to the D.A.
391
00:18:17,861 --> 00:18:21,900
ED: "Purveyors of misogynist filth
like Mark Vee need to be ignored",
392
00:18:22,466 --> 00:18:25,003
"but those responsible for
its dissemination offend"
393
00:18:25,068 --> 00:18:27,742
"the sensibilities of
good people everywhere."
394
00:18:27,804 --> 00:18:30,307
"Their fate should be
in a category all its own."
395
00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:33,013
No wonder they
didn't print that.
396
00:18:33,076 --> 00:18:34,612
It's practically
a death threat.
397
00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:36,453
I wrote a letter.
I didn't kill that woman.
398
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,923
You told us you never heard
of Mark Vee or Paul Radford.
399
00:18:40,183 --> 00:18:43,255
I misspoke, okay? I was home that night.
You can ask my landlady.
400
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,823
We will. My partner's there right
now, searching your apartment.
401
00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:55,242
I'm gonna call over
there, Mr. Brunig.
402
00:18:55,299 --> 00:18:57,939
Anything you want to say before
we find out what he turned up?
403
00:18:58,002 --> 00:18:59,743
He won't turn up anything.
404
00:19:07,845 --> 00:19:11,088
You know, they find something out
there, I gotta go right to the D.A.
405
00:19:11,149 --> 00:19:14,460
So, you and I don't have a lot
of time to set things straight.
406
00:19:15,219 --> 00:19:17,460
There's nothing
to set straight.
407
00:19:17,522 --> 00:19:20,093
Look, I'm on your side.
408
00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:24,433
You think this painting
didn't piss me off, too?
409
00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:29,244
The first time I saw it,
it turned my stomach.
410
00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:36,548
You're making this very hard
on yourself, Mr. Brunig.
411
00:19:36,608 --> 00:19:40,556
We have a room full of witnesses
who put you in the gallery.
412
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,852
What if I was there?
413
00:19:43,415 --> 00:19:45,554
I can imagine how you felt.
414
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:49,689
What do you think it's like
being a woman and seeing this?
415
00:19:51,323 --> 00:19:52,597
It's disgraceful.
416
00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:54,093
Yeah.
417
00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:55,729
You know what this guy
used to do?
418
00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:59,072
Marinate Madonnas
in pig's blood.
419
00:19:59,398 --> 00:20:01,036
And he calls that art.
420
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,341
Now, how does
he get away with that?
421
00:20:03,403 --> 00:20:04,507
I don't know.
422
00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:09,042
And Lucy Young, she's the one
who made it all possible.
423
00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:11,622
I told you I didn't know her.
424
00:20:11,678 --> 00:20:13,555
All that money she had.
425
00:20:13,947 --> 00:20:16,052
And what can people
like me and you do?
426
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,330
Write letters that
they don't even publish.
427
00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:21,859
You ask me,
she brought it on herself.
428
00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:24,201
What you did to her was
429
00:20:25,859 --> 00:20:27,839
Biblical justice.
430
00:20:29,362 --> 00:20:31,603
An eye for an eye.
431
00:20:32,532 --> 00:20:34,205
Now, you lay it out for me,
432
00:20:35,969 --> 00:20:38,075
and I'll see
what I can do for you.
433
00:20:42,076 --> 00:20:43,316
I'm getting very tired.
434
00:20:43,377 --> 00:20:48,258
Yes. Tell me what happened
and it'll all be over.
435
00:20:51,852 --> 00:20:53,559
Can I get some coffee?
436
00:20:54,655 --> 00:20:58,831
You signed your name
to this letter,
437
00:20:59,493 --> 00:21:02,303
so I know you're not a coward.
438
00:21:03,397 --> 00:21:05,172
Black, please.
439
00:21:09,303 --> 00:21:11,283
Bunch of brochures
from art galleries.
440
00:21:11,872 --> 00:21:13,853
Nothing on Mark Vee.
441
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:18,119
How does Brunig slog through six quarts
of blood and we can't find a drop?
442
00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:19,386
Maybe he's not our guy.
443
00:21:19,447 --> 00:21:20,926
Or he cleans up real good.
444
00:21:21,683 --> 00:21:24,391
Detective, we got something
on the metal detector.
445
00:21:33,094 --> 00:21:34,505
Waffle grip.
446
00:21:36,197 --> 00:21:37,505
My lawyer show up yet?
447
00:21:37,566 --> 00:21:39,409
I told him to meet you
at Rikers Island.
448
00:21:39,467 --> 00:21:41,344
We found out what you've
been feeding your plants.
449
00:21:41,403 --> 00:21:43,679
You're under arrest for
the murder of Lucy Young.
450
00:21:43,738 --> 00:21:45,445
You have the right
to remain silent.
451
00:21:45,507 --> 00:21:48,545
Anything you say can be used
against you in a court of law.
452
00:21:50,413 --> 00:21:52,757
Can I get a better look
at Number 3?
453
00:21:53,950 --> 00:21:56,396
Have Number 3
step forward, please.
454
00:21:56,986 --> 00:21:58,294
Step forward.
Right here.
455
00:22:00,289 --> 00:22:01,290
Stay there.
456
00:22:01,757 --> 00:22:03,737
Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure that that's him.
457
00:22:03,793 --> 00:22:05,431
That's the guy that was
on the loading dock.
458
00:22:05,494 --> 00:22:06,632
You're pretty sure?
459
00:22:06,696 --> 00:22:08,403
You're here to
observe, Mr. Olson.
460
00:22:08,898 --> 00:22:10,502
Take your time,
Ms. LaPorte.
461
00:22:11,567 --> 00:22:14,275
Well, I think that that's him.
462
00:22:15,738 --> 00:22:17,547
Thank you. We'll be in touch.
463
00:22:20,109 --> 00:22:21,918
Well, I believe Mr. Brunig
will be leaving, too.
464
00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:24,147
You think I'm letting him
back on the street?
465
00:22:25,048 --> 00:22:26,686
We're arraigning him
on gun possession.
466
00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:31,829
Larry Brunig leads
a fairly unremarkable life.
467
00:22:32,422 --> 00:22:34,561
He was a proofreader
at an insurance company,
468
00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:36,766
and his sheet's clean,
not even a traffic ticket.
469
00:22:37,527 --> 00:22:39,063
Somebody spike his
oatmeal one morning?
470
00:22:39,596 --> 00:22:42,839
Apparently he had problems with the
paintings the victim promoted.
471
00:22:43,367 --> 00:22:46,610
It's a big leap from writing a
letter to chopping off her hands.
472
00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:48,047
What's he got for an alibi?
473
00:22:48,505 --> 00:22:49,643
Home by himself.
474
00:22:51,074 --> 00:22:52,075
Prove he wasn't.
475
00:22:53,677 --> 00:22:57,557
I'm sure Larry was home that night. I
remember his music being up real loud.
476
00:22:58,248 --> 00:22:59,693
What time was that?
477
00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:00,923
Around 7:30.
478
00:23:01,419 --> 00:23:03,399
My mah-jong game was
just getting started
479
00:23:03,454 --> 00:23:06,162
and Bev Schlenoff was
complaining she couldn't hear.
480
00:23:06,591 --> 00:23:07,831
It must have been pretty loud.
481
00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:09,467
These walls are like paper.
482
00:23:09,727 --> 00:23:12,833
So I called Larry on the phone, and
he turned it off. He's nice that way.
483
00:23:13,831 --> 00:23:16,209
Once it was quiet, did you
hear him leave his apartment?
484
00:23:16,934 --> 00:23:17,935
I wouldn't know.
485
00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:21,216
Usually when he gets home from
work, he's in for the night.
486
00:23:21,673 --> 00:23:23,243
Not much of a social life?
487
00:23:23,308 --> 00:23:24,309
Not recently.
488
00:23:24,609 --> 00:23:26,646
But when he moved in here,
he was a different person.
489
00:23:27,345 --> 00:23:28,756
Different in what way?
490
00:23:29,414 --> 00:23:30,893
Let me show you
something, dear.
491
00:23:34,485 --> 00:23:35,623
See?
492
00:23:37,322 --> 00:23:39,893
That's not bad.
Brunig did that?
493
00:23:40,325 --> 00:23:43,670
Larry couldn't make his rent one
month, so he gave me this instead.
494
00:23:44,763 --> 00:23:46,003
How long ago was that?
495
00:23:46,665 --> 00:23:50,511
Oh, five or six years ago.
Then one morning I got up
496
00:23:50,936 --> 00:23:54,509
and all the paintings that were in his
apartment were out with the garbage.
497
00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:56,881
The canvasses had been slashed.
498
00:23:58,177 --> 00:24:00,487
That's a pretty big statement. Did
he ever talk to you about it?
499
00:24:02,081 --> 00:24:04,584
From what I could tell,
he just gave up.
500
00:24:06,719 --> 00:24:09,996
Larry Brunig. He'd turn up with a new
painting every three or four months.
501
00:24:10,589 --> 00:24:12,695
I only sold one, to a lady in Great Neck.
She liked it
502
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:15,137
because the colors
matched her sofa.
503
00:24:15,195 --> 00:24:17,471
You know, I saw one of his paintings.
It wasn't half bad.
504
00:24:17,831 --> 00:24:19,811
I have something really nice
that might interest you.
505
00:24:19,866 --> 00:24:20,901
No thanks.
506
00:24:20,967 --> 00:24:22,241
I'll give you a break
on the price.
507
00:24:22,302 --> 00:24:23,781
I'm not in the market,
Mr. Boyd.
508
00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,942
All right.
Larry tried hard.
509
00:24:26,005 --> 00:24:28,178
He was prolific, but the kind of
work he did just wasn't selling.
510
00:24:28,241 --> 00:24:30,084
I had to stop representing him.
511
00:24:30,143 --> 00:24:31,520
How'd he react
when you told him?
512
00:24:31,578 --> 00:24:34,582
Larry's not stupid. He saw the
writing on the wall, took a day job.
513
00:24:34,647 --> 00:24:36,251
We parted ways on good terms.
514
00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:38,991
When's the last time
you spoke to him?
515
00:24:39,052 --> 00:24:42,226
I heard from him three years ago.
In fact, I did him a big favor.
516
00:24:42,288 --> 00:24:43,426
What kind of favor?
517
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:46,664
I got a call from a woman who was
traveling with Larry in Spain.
518
00:24:46,726 --> 00:24:48,866
Said he was having some trouble
with the police and needed money.
519
00:24:49,330 --> 00:24:51,310
I sent him some.
What happened?
520
00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:53,902
I never got the whole story
I wired him $2,000.
521
00:24:54,335 --> 00:24:55,814
Took him about a year,
but Larry paid me back.
522
00:24:56,504 --> 00:24:58,347
Do you remember
the woman's name?
523
00:24:58,739 --> 00:25:02,710
It was his girlfriend. She said she worked
with Larry at some insurance company.
524
00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:09,092
We went to Spain together
on vacation.
525
00:25:09,583 --> 00:25:13,929
I knew Larry loved art, but all he wanted
to do was visit churches and museums.
526
00:25:14,855 --> 00:25:18,359
You had Otto Boyd wire him some money while
you were there. What was that about?
527
00:25:19,794 --> 00:25:21,239
Larry's got enough problems.
528
00:25:22,696 --> 00:25:26,167
You had to make the call for
him, so I assume he was in jail.
529
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:29,048
If you want to know what happened,
try the Barcelona police.
530
00:25:30,205 --> 00:25:31,548
Do you know what
he did to that woman?
531
00:25:31,606 --> 00:25:33,608
I know what I read
in the paper.
532
00:25:34,276 --> 00:25:36,313
Well, let me tell you
what wasn't in the paper.
533
00:25:37,045 --> 00:25:39,423
She was still alive
when he cut her hands off.
534
00:25:42,384 --> 00:25:44,022
Larry wouldn't do that.
535
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:46,326
He was offended by
a painting she sponsored.
536
00:25:46,922 --> 00:25:48,128
A woman with no hands.
537
00:25:49,024 --> 00:25:50,435
A painting?
538
00:25:51,126 --> 00:25:52,662
Talk to me, Ms. Branson.
539
00:25:55,964 --> 00:25:58,274
Larry kept going back to
this one museum.
540
00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:01,440
There was a painting
by Salvador Dali.
541
00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:03,210
He took me to see it.
542
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,720
It was this woman, she had
no head, no hands, no feet.
543
00:26:08,478 --> 00:26:11,015
I couldn't understand
his fascination.
544
00:26:11,714 --> 00:26:14,786
Made me think he was
a little strange.
545
00:26:15,651 --> 00:26:17,187
How'd the police get involved?
546
00:26:17,253 --> 00:26:18,926
One night, Larry called me
at our hotel.
547
00:26:19,555 --> 00:26:21,034
He, uh, was in jail.
548
00:26:21,891 --> 00:26:24,098
They said he tried to vandalize
the painting with spray paint.
549
00:26:25,628 --> 00:26:28,632
CARMICHAEL: The guards jumped Brunig
before he could get the top off the can.
550
00:26:28,698 --> 00:26:29,768
Thank heavens.
551
00:26:29,832 --> 00:26:32,972
As they dragged him away, Brunig shouted
the museum should be closed down
552
00:26:33,035 --> 00:26:35,037
for hanging paintings
by women-haters.
553
00:26:35,404 --> 00:26:38,079
What do you get in Spain for
trying to paint a painting?
554
00:26:38,709 --> 00:26:41,087
Well, they detained him
until he paid a fine,
555
00:26:41,145 --> 00:26:44,217
and made the State Department invalidate
his passport for travel to Spain.
556
00:26:44,848 --> 00:26:46,691
It establishes a pattern
of behavior and a motive.
557
00:26:47,217 --> 00:26:49,458
We'll need a witness
from the Barcelona Museum.
558
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:50,520
Barcelona,
559
00:26:51,655 --> 00:26:53,225
a headless woman, it's...
560
00:26:54,158 --> 00:26:55,159
Surreal?
561
00:27:00,697 --> 00:27:02,506
"Docket number 4219,"
562
00:27:02,566 --> 00:27:05,672
"People v. Larry Brunig,
murder in the first degree."
563
00:27:05,869 --> 00:27:07,473
Murder one?
That's over-charging.
564
00:27:07,971 --> 00:27:09,973
The victim's hands were
severed before death.
565
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,282
She was killed in a cruel
and wanton manner.
566
00:27:13,111 --> 00:27:15,216
Murder one sounds good to me.
How's he plead?
567
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,588
Not guilty, Your Honor.
568
00:27:16,648 --> 00:27:17,718
People request remand.
569
00:27:18,116 --> 00:27:20,027
My client has a steady job
a stable residence,
570
00:27:20,084 --> 00:27:21,620
absolutely no criminal record.
571
00:27:21,686 --> 00:27:23,393
In this country.
572
00:27:23,454 --> 00:27:26,594
Your Honor, he was arrested in Spain. He
tried to deface a prominent painting by
573
00:27:26,658 --> 00:27:29,161
Salvador Dali, which depicted
a dismembered woman.
574
00:27:30,261 --> 00:27:31,569
What about this, Mr. Olson?
575
00:27:31,863 --> 00:27:34,935
What happened in Spain is not
admissible against my client.
576
00:27:34,999 --> 00:27:37,309
I'm asking Your Honor
to preclude this evidence.
577
00:27:37,902 --> 00:27:40,815
It's admissible at a bail
argument. I'm remanding him.
578
00:27:41,339 --> 00:27:42,818
I'll refer your motion
to the trial judge.
579
00:27:42,874 --> 00:27:43,978
Next case.
580
00:27:44,809 --> 00:27:46,447
COURT CLERK:
"Docket number 367..."
581
00:27:46,511 --> 00:27:49,322
They can't place my client at the murder
scene, so they attack his character.
582
00:27:49,748 --> 00:27:50,852
It's relevant to his motive.
583
00:27:50,916 --> 00:27:53,021
He tired to attack
a painting, not a person.
584
00:27:53,085 --> 00:27:56,259
But the Barcelona incident shows
that he was incited to violence
585
00:27:56,322 --> 00:27:59,064
by exactly the same image. It's
practically his trademark.
586
00:27:59,258 --> 00:28:01,761
He had white paint. Now they're
talking about a kitchen knife.
587
00:28:02,161 --> 00:28:03,731
It has no probative value.
588
00:28:03,796 --> 00:28:07,073
Don't I have to weigh the possibility
of prejudice, Mr. McCoy?
589
00:28:07,132 --> 00:28:09,112
Exactly, Judge. No jury
can hear about Barcelona
590
00:28:09,168 --> 00:28:11,079
and still dispassionately
weigh the evidence.
591
00:28:11,136 --> 00:28:14,049
Give the jurors some credit. They make
these kinds of distinctions all the time.
592
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,677
Oh, I don't give them
that much credit.
593
00:28:18,444 --> 00:28:21,584
I'll allow the testimony to come
in with a limiting instruction.
594
00:28:25,452 --> 00:28:26,897
Here's what you can do
with your motive.
595
00:28:29,522 --> 00:28:30,694
Insanity defense?
596
00:28:31,157 --> 00:28:33,865
Not quite. Extreme
emotional disturbance.
597
00:28:33,927 --> 00:28:35,634
The painting made me do it.
598
00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:42,413
When did you first encounter
the defendant, Ms. Poster?
599
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:45,008
At the opening party
for Mark Vee.
600
00:28:45,071 --> 00:28:48,143
He, uh, went from piece to piece
muttering and shaking his head.
601
00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:52,087
He'd confront the guests and
challenge their opinion on the work.
602
00:28:52,645 --> 00:28:54,750
A number of arguments broke out,
and I had to ask him to leave.
603
00:28:55,815 --> 00:28:57,488
Did you ever see
Mr. Brunig after that?
604
00:28:58,318 --> 00:29:01,766
He came back to the gallery four
times during the Mark Vee show.
605
00:29:02,323 --> 00:29:03,666
And how did he behave?
606
00:29:03,724 --> 00:29:04,896
Nothing like the first time.
607
00:29:05,826 --> 00:29:08,705
He would just look at Perfect Woman
#3 for a while and then he'd leave.
608
00:29:09,864 --> 00:29:11,810
No muttering?
No.
609
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,869
No confrontations?
610
00:29:13,934 --> 00:29:15,311
No. He didn't
open his mouth.
611
00:29:15,369 --> 00:29:18,373
Did he appear agitated or affected
by the painting in any way?
612
00:29:18,773 --> 00:29:19,774
Not in the least.
613
00:29:21,642 --> 00:29:22,643
Nothing further.
614
00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,081
Ms. Poster, did you ever
speak to Mr. Brunig
615
00:29:26,147 --> 00:29:28,093
during his subsequent
visits to the gallery?
616
00:29:28,749 --> 00:29:30,194
No. Just that first time.
617
00:29:30,951 --> 00:29:32,988
So, unless you could
read his mind,
618
00:29:33,054 --> 00:29:35,057
you really didn't know whether
he was agitated or not.
619
00:29:35,524 --> 00:29:36,935
He didn't seem upset to me.
620
00:29:37,259 --> 00:29:40,069
The one time he did seem upset, you
had him removed from the gallery?
621
00:29:40,495 --> 00:29:41,530
Right.
622
00:29:41,763 --> 00:29:43,800
So it's quite possible that
he was hiding his emotions
623
00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:45,435
in order to avoid
getting thrown out?
624
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:46,808
Objection.
JUDGE: Sustained.
625
00:29:46,868 --> 00:29:48,745
For all you know,
he was burning up inside.
626
00:29:48,804 --> 00:29:49,908
Sustained!
627
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:52,908
Nothing further.
628
00:29:56,278 --> 00:29:59,555
OLSON: Who was your model for
Perfect Woman #3, Mr. Vee?
629
00:30:00,382 --> 00:30:01,656
There was no model.
630
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:03,961
It's solely a product
of my imagination.
631
00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:06,863
You imagine women with
their body parts amputated?
632
00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:08,758
Yeah, I suppose I do.
633
00:30:09,124 --> 00:30:10,364
But it's just fantasy.
634
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:12,965
A fantasy which you choose
to share with the public.
635
00:30:13,663 --> 00:30:15,973
I suppose that's one way
to define art.
636
00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:19,306
How do you intend people to
feel when they view this?
637
00:30:19,802 --> 00:30:23,443
I can't predict people's
emotional response to my art.
638
00:30:23,506 --> 00:30:26,851
What they feel about this painting
is based on their own experience.
639
00:30:27,577 --> 00:30:30,421
So disgust and outrage
would be valid responses?
640
00:30:31,114 --> 00:30:35,290
Sure, but I hope the viewer goes deeper
than a visceral reaction to the work.
641
00:30:35,351 --> 00:30:36,421
What do you mean by that?
642
00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:39,763
Anybody can look at Perfect
Woman #3 and be offended.
643
00:30:40,957 --> 00:30:42,527
I want to challenge
their preconceptions.
644
00:30:44,827 --> 00:30:48,435
You're a provocateur, Mr. Vee,
aren't you?
645
00:30:49,566 --> 00:30:50,601
You might say that.
646
00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:52,704
You seek to arouse a reaction?
647
00:30:53,337 --> 00:30:56,580
The bigger the reaction, the better.
That's what the work is about.
648
00:30:59,710 --> 00:31:00,950
I have nothing further.
649
00:31:03,914 --> 00:31:07,293
Did you intend your work to
be taken literally, Mr. Vee?
650
00:31:08,285 --> 00:31:10,196
VEE: What do you mean
"literally"?
651
00:31:10,921 --> 00:31:14,334
Did you intend this painting
to promote hatred of women?
652
00:31:14,892 --> 00:31:18,271
I wouldn't expect any two people
to experience it the same way.
653
00:31:19,363 --> 00:31:21,172
You wanted to provoke
discussion?
654
00:31:21,432 --> 00:31:22,434
Yes.
655
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,170
JACK: Challenge people's
perceptions?
656
00:31:24,235 --> 00:31:25,305
VEE: Yes.
657
00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:29,045
Did you ever intend your work
to provoke violence?
658
00:31:29,474 --> 00:31:30,953
Provoke violence?
659
00:31:31,009 --> 00:31:35,685
No. But I can't deny this
painting has violent content.
660
00:31:37,015 --> 00:31:39,962
It doesn't surprise me that
some people can't handle it.
661
00:31:45,823 --> 00:31:47,598
Olson will depict his client as
662
00:31:47,659 --> 00:31:49,866
slipping into a dissociative
state prior to the murder.
663
00:31:50,662 --> 00:31:52,938
It sounds like you're describing
some form of psychosis.
664
00:31:53,698 --> 00:31:57,373
Brunig won't say his dog told him to
do it, just that he acted on impulse.
665
00:31:58,103 --> 00:31:59,707
Triggered by
viewing the painting.
666
00:31:59,772 --> 00:32:03,015
The testimony he went back to see it
several times supports that position.
667
00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:05,419
Nobody forced him
to go back there.
668
00:32:05,477 --> 00:32:07,423
The more you can show his
actions to be deliberate,
669
00:32:07,479 --> 00:32:10,585
the less likely they'll be
viewed as impulsive.
670
00:32:10,649 --> 00:32:12,287
Just take him through it
frame by frame.
671
00:32:13,085 --> 00:32:14,155
You foresee any potholes?
672
00:32:15,621 --> 00:32:18,227
Well, he might claim something in
his background made him vulnerable.
673
00:32:18,290 --> 00:32:19,769
He flopped as an artist.
674
00:32:19,825 --> 00:32:21,896
Or something more basic,
from his childhood.
675
00:32:22,695 --> 00:32:25,767
Maybe you'll figure it out from the gallery.
See you in the morning.
676
00:32:25,831 --> 00:32:26,935
DR. SKODA: Yeah.
677
00:32:28,601 --> 00:32:29,739
Thanks.
678
00:32:32,972 --> 00:32:35,078
I have to say, Jack, that
painting disturbs me, too.
679
00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:39,013
There's being disturbed and there's
using it as an excuse to commit murder.
680
00:32:39,913 --> 00:32:41,654
It's no better than
pornography.
681
00:32:42,315 --> 00:32:44,454
And what, pornography
causes violence?
682
00:32:45,051 --> 00:32:47,827
I'm not hardcore like some feminists,
but there's something to it.
683
00:32:48,021 --> 00:32:51,230
There's no proven correlation between
looking at smut and committing crimes.
684
00:32:52,726 --> 00:32:56,469
I don't care what the numbers say. It's more subtle.
It objectifies women.
685
00:32:57,230 --> 00:32:58,675
You want to police
what people think?
686
00:32:59,065 --> 00:33:03,070
The Supreme Court says expression can be
regulated based on community standards.
687
00:33:03,136 --> 00:33:06,049
Where I come form, they'd toss
that thing in the barbecue pit.
688
00:33:06,873 --> 00:33:09,376
That's your solution?
Burn it?
689
00:33:09,442 --> 00:33:12,583
I'm not advocating that,
but your jury might.
690
00:33:20,855 --> 00:33:22,596
The defense calls Larry Brunig.
691
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,737
Uh, Your Honor, I see Dr. Skoda, the
People's psychiatrist, in the gallery.
692
00:33:30,364 --> 00:33:31,604
He's entitled to observe.
693
00:33:36,938 --> 00:33:38,315
I want him excluded
from the courtroom.
694
00:33:38,372 --> 00:33:39,373
JUDGE: On what grounds?
695
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,716
The People are trying to end-run the statute.
He can't testify here.
696
00:33:42,209 --> 00:33:44,553
I'm entitled to his advice
before I cross.
697
00:33:45,346 --> 00:33:47,554
Are you stipulating that you're
not calling him on rebuttal?
698
00:33:47,916 --> 00:33:49,190
I haven't made that
decision yet.
699
00:33:49,251 --> 00:33:50,252
There you go, Judge.
700
00:33:50,652 --> 00:33:53,496
There's nothing that says I can't
call an expert in rebuttal.
701
00:33:53,722 --> 00:33:55,292
He's trying to
intimidate Mr. Brunig.
702
00:33:55,524 --> 00:33:58,664
How would your client be intimidated by
someone he doesn't know or recognize?
703
00:33:58,894 --> 00:33:59,929
This was a setup.
704
00:34:00,128 --> 00:34:01,607
But the bell has already rung.
705
00:34:01,863 --> 00:34:03,103
Then I'll find someone else.
706
00:34:03,165 --> 00:34:06,476
I'm not stopping this trial while
you go shopping for a shrink.
707
00:34:08,003 --> 00:34:09,607
You want Dr. Skoda
to testify?
708
00:34:10,205 --> 00:34:12,742
Give him the transcript
of the defendant's testimony.
709
00:34:13,242 --> 00:34:14,414
Now let's go.
710
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:25,256
I first read about Mark Vee's
opening in a magazine.
711
00:34:27,323 --> 00:34:30,270
The paintings sounded so violent,
I wanted to see them for myself.
712
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,265
Is that when you first came
into contact with Lucy Young?
713
00:34:34,263 --> 00:34:38,643
Yes. Heard the show would never have
gotten off the ground without her.
714
00:34:39,168 --> 00:34:40,374
Did you approach her?
715
00:34:40,436 --> 00:34:43,849
I wanted to talk to her about
the filth she was supporting.
716
00:34:45,241 --> 00:34:47,482
But they asked me to leave
before I had the chance.
717
00:34:48,077 --> 00:34:49,385
Because you were disruptive?
718
00:34:50,046 --> 00:34:53,027
I just wanted to understand what
it was people liked about it.
719
00:34:55,518 --> 00:34:56,861
One of them
called me a fascist.
720
00:34:58,122 --> 00:34:59,795
Why did you seek
Lucy Young out again?
721
00:35:01,458 --> 00:35:02,766
I never planned it.
722
00:35:04,328 --> 00:35:07,002
But I found out she backed
a lot of this filth.
723
00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:08,702
Like what?
724
00:35:08,766 --> 00:35:10,473
Defilements of the Virgin Mary,
725
00:35:11,001 --> 00:35:13,538
sculptures made
with animal feces...
726
00:35:13,604 --> 00:35:14,639
And this?
727
00:35:14,705 --> 00:35:16,446
See, that is not art.
728
00:35:16,507 --> 00:35:20,250
Art is about beauty and life.
729
00:35:21,612 --> 00:35:23,319
Like Renoir, or Degas.
730
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:25,189
It made you angry, Larry?
Yes.
731
00:35:26,050 --> 00:35:29,862
So what did you do with all of this anger
that was building up inside of you?
732
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,698
I got Lucy Young's address
off the Internet,
733
00:35:33,758 --> 00:35:35,362
so I decided to confront her.
734
00:35:35,693 --> 00:35:37,764
To harm her?
No.
735
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:42,471
I just wanted to tell her
what a terrible thing it was
736
00:35:42,534 --> 00:35:44,036
to support this
737
00:35:44,769 --> 00:35:47,079
and what it would do to
the children who saw it.
738
00:35:48,340 --> 00:35:50,752
What happened when you got
to the building that night?
739
00:35:51,543 --> 00:35:53,022
She wasn't there at first,
740
00:35:54,479 --> 00:35:57,858
so I decided to wait across the street.
My mind was racing.
741
00:35:59,417 --> 00:36:02,955
Then when she finally
turned the corner,
742
00:36:03,955 --> 00:36:05,332
my heart started pounding.
743
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:07,165
What did you do
when she arrived?
744
00:36:09,228 --> 00:36:12,266
I came up to her at the door.
I told her I wanted to talk.
745
00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:17,776
She said to leave her alone
or she'd scream.
746
00:36:19,371 --> 00:36:21,282
Then she pulled out
a can of mace.
747
00:36:22,374 --> 00:36:24,376
And you forced her inside
with a gun?
748
00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:25,717
Yes.
749
00:36:25,778 --> 00:36:27,314
And you hit her over the head?
750
00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:28,653
Yes.
751
00:36:30,016 --> 00:36:31,962
She wouldn't listen to me.
752
00:36:32,752 --> 00:36:34,288
And then, Larry?
753
00:36:34,353 --> 00:36:35,491
She was lying there...
754
00:36:37,923 --> 00:36:40,529
All I could think
about was that.
755
00:36:41,427 --> 00:36:43,407
I couldn't get this picture
out of my head,
756
00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:47,502
and the things that it made
me think about were horrible.
757
00:36:51,371 --> 00:36:52,782
What it made me do.
758
00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:55,515
What did you do, Larry?
759
00:36:58,678 --> 00:37:00,521
I went to the kitchen
760
00:37:02,215 --> 00:37:04,525
and I got a knife
and some tape...
761
00:37:06,953 --> 00:37:09,729
I can't say it. Please,
just don't make me say it.
762
00:37:09,790 --> 00:37:11,064
Nothing further.
763
00:37:16,062 --> 00:37:17,769
Before you went to
confront Lucy Young,
764
00:37:17,831 --> 00:37:19,902
you made sure to bring
your gun along with you?
765
00:37:20,768 --> 00:37:21,974
BRUNIG: Yes.
766
00:37:22,670 --> 00:37:24,650
You planned to
harm her, Mr. Brunig.
767
00:37:24,705 --> 00:37:27,413
No! I just wanted to
make her listen.
768
00:37:27,475 --> 00:37:30,046
And then you laid in wait for
her for an hour and a half.
769
00:37:31,245 --> 00:37:33,191
I don't remember
exactly how long it was.
770
00:37:33,247 --> 00:37:35,887
Well, do you remember cleaning
your fingerprints off,
771
00:37:35,950 --> 00:37:37,793
disposing of
your bloody clothes?
772
00:37:38,219 --> 00:37:40,426
After I realized what
I'd done, I got scared.
773
00:37:41,355 --> 00:37:45,531
Hardly the actions of a man
acting on emotion, Mr. Brunig.
774
00:37:45,593 --> 00:37:46,936
Objection. Argumentative.
775
00:37:46,994 --> 00:37:48,064
Sustained.
776
00:37:49,697 --> 00:37:52,610
At one point in your life, you
were a professional artist.
777
00:37:54,335 --> 00:37:56,646
My mother taught me how to
paint when I was a boy.
778
00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:59,851
She was
a gifted artist herself.
779
00:37:59,908 --> 00:38:02,388
And then one day,
you just gave up.
780
00:38:03,212 --> 00:38:05,089
My paintings weren't selling.
781
00:38:05,414 --> 00:38:09,055
And people like Lucy Young
wouldn't help you.
782
00:38:09,117 --> 00:38:10,687
That's right.
783
00:38:10,752 --> 00:38:15,223
But Mark Vee was featured
at a major gallery.
784
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:18,066
People were lining up to
see his work.
785
00:38:18,126 --> 00:38:21,539
They think they're smarter than you
because they worship this crap.
786
00:38:23,899 --> 00:38:27,711
That's all it is, and you know it.
Everybody here knows it.
787
00:38:29,271 --> 00:38:31,911
You were a failure,
Mr. Brunig.
788
00:38:31,974 --> 00:38:33,454
That has nothing
to do with this.
789
00:38:33,509 --> 00:38:35,284
You were jealous and bitter.
790
00:38:35,345 --> 00:38:36,346
No.
791
00:38:36,412 --> 00:38:39,120
And that's why you kept
going back there, isn't it?
792
00:38:39,182 --> 00:38:40,991
To wallow in your own misery!
793
00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:42,393
This did something to me.
794
00:38:42,452 --> 00:38:45,023
Then why didn't you confront the
artist instead of Lucy Young?
795
00:38:45,088 --> 00:38:49,036
Without her money, people wouldn't even
be able to see these sick paintings.
796
00:38:49,459 --> 00:38:53,100
So, to protest,
797
00:38:54,731 --> 00:38:57,177
you cut off a woman's hands.
798
00:38:58,868 --> 00:39:01,212
Can you explain that
to me, Mr. Brunig?
799
00:39:02,405 --> 00:39:04,908
Lucy Young did this to me.
800
00:39:07,377 --> 00:39:09,255
She made me feel this.
801
00:39:11,048 --> 00:39:13,619
She put this painting
in a gallery.
802
00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:17,689
I had to make it stop.
803
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,202
Look, Jack, everything he
describes about that night,
804
00:39:27,264 --> 00:39:29,710
the way his rage spiked,
the way he killed her,
805
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:31,747
it suggests a loss
of self-control.
806
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:33,372
And the gun he brought along?
807
00:39:33,437 --> 00:39:35,041
Ultimately,
he didn't shoot her.
808
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,748
If I could talk to Brunig alone,
I'd have some better insight.
809
00:39:38,809 --> 00:39:40,516
Well, you can't.
The law doesn't allow it.
810
00:39:41,078 --> 00:39:44,891
Based on this cold record, nothing
I could say would help you.
811
00:39:45,317 --> 00:39:46,421
Thanks.
812
00:39:50,355 --> 00:39:51,561
ADAM: Now what?
813
00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:52,795
We go to a verdict.
814
00:39:52,857 --> 00:39:54,427
Get a second opinion.
815
00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:58,997
If I put a hired gun up there,
Olson'll call Skoda in rebuttal.
816
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:00,065
Then offer murder two.
817
00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:01,633
I don't accept their argument.
818
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:03,077
It's better than
manslaughter, Jack.
819
00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:06,411
We compromise now, we're
admitting art incites violence.
820
00:40:06,471 --> 00:40:08,576
This is not about
freedom of expression.
821
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,620
Isn't it? If we buy
into this defense,
822
00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:12,518
how far behind do you think
the censors will be?
823
00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:14,417
Here we go.
824
00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:17,358
You want the government sniffing
around the museums, Adam?
825
00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,790
Can't you see the little
picture for a change?
826
00:40:21,187 --> 00:40:23,064
What do we do when the next
defendant comes around
827
00:40:23,122 --> 00:40:24,965
and says that a book
made him angry? Or a movie?
828
00:40:25,024 --> 00:40:27,834
That's exactly what's gonna
happen if Brunig wins.
829
00:40:29,095 --> 00:40:30,870
If the jury buys it,
there's nothing I can do
830
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:32,705
but I won't pave the way.
831
00:40:33,733 --> 00:40:35,644
A painting's not
an excuse for murder.
832
00:40:42,041 --> 00:40:45,284
Larry Brunig was
a profoundly troubled man,
833
00:40:46,279 --> 00:40:50,386
isolated, tortured by
his career disappointment,
834
00:40:50,449 --> 00:40:53,760
all of that repressed creativity
burning a hole inside of him.
835
00:40:55,388 --> 00:40:58,859
And then Larry saw this,
836
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:04,031
and it brought to the surface all of
that anger and all of that emotion.
837
00:41:05,699 --> 00:41:09,442
He became obsessed with it.
It enraged him.
838
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:14,376
Now this painting, it may not enrage
you and me like it enraged Larry,
839
00:41:14,841 --> 00:41:17,321
but under the law,
you must step into his shoes
840
00:41:17,377 --> 00:41:18,947
and decide whether
he was emotionally overcome
841
00:41:19,012 --> 00:41:21,686
the night he committed
this horrible crime.
842
00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:26,797
Now, please take a good,
hard look at this.
843
00:41:28,455 --> 00:41:30,992
I want you to think about
what it did to Larry.
844
00:41:31,325 --> 00:41:32,964
It poisoned him.
845
00:41:33,027 --> 00:41:36,065
And in his mind,
Lucy Young was the one
846
00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:38,804
that inflicted
this poison on him.
847
00:41:38,866 --> 00:41:41,676
Larry's mental distress
was real.
848
00:41:42,637 --> 00:41:44,742
And for one regrettable moment,
849
00:41:47,542 --> 00:41:48,816
he lost control.
850
00:41:51,879 --> 00:41:53,654
Because of this.
851
00:42:08,197 --> 00:42:09,904
I don't care for this painting.
852
00:42:11,166 --> 00:42:15,342
It's offensive to me, and I'm not going
to stand here and tell you otherwise.
853
00:42:17,606 --> 00:42:22,385
But it doesn't give Larry Brunig
an excuse for killing Lucy Young.
854
00:42:23,145 --> 00:42:27,321
Mr. Brunig wants to use his
obsession as a permission slip
855
00:42:27,383 --> 00:42:28,623
to commit murder.
856
00:42:33,722 --> 00:42:36,760
If you go down that road,
where does it end?
857
00:42:37,693 --> 00:42:40,503
Any person who's hypersensitive
858
00:42:40,562 --> 00:42:43,099
has a defense against
a charge of murder.
859
00:42:43,165 --> 00:42:48,206
Any bigot can plead extreme
emotional disturbance.
860
00:42:48,271 --> 00:42:53,721
Whether you like it or not, Mark Vee
had every right to create this.
861
00:42:53,777 --> 00:42:56,485
Lucy Young had
every right to support it.
862
00:42:57,413 --> 00:43:02,385
And Larry Brunig had
every right to hate it.
863
00:43:02,452 --> 00:43:06,025
If he wanted to, he could
stand on a street corner
864
00:43:06,089 --> 00:43:09,536
and rail against it to
anyone who passed by.
865
00:43:09,592 --> 00:43:16,100
But he had no right to kill Lucy
Young to express his opinion.
866
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,311
He found Mark Vee's painting
insulting to women.
867
00:43:23,841 --> 00:43:27,721
But he's the one who
clubbed a woman's head
868
00:43:28,245 --> 00:43:31,715
and chopped her up
in her living room.
869
00:43:31,782 --> 00:43:34,956
Larry Brunig planned
this crime in advance
870
00:43:35,019 --> 00:43:38,125
and carried it out
with brutal efficiency.
871
00:43:38,189 --> 00:43:42,763
His claim that he just wanted to
confront Lucy Young about her patronage
872
00:43:42,826 --> 00:43:45,500
is belied by the fact that,
on the night in question,
873
00:43:45,563 --> 00:43:47,372
he packed a gun.
874
00:43:50,468 --> 00:43:54,143
On some level his anger
may be understandable,
875
00:43:57,676 --> 00:44:00,885
but don't let him use it
to get away with murder.
876
00:44:10,622 --> 00:44:12,568
Has the jury reached a verdict?
877
00:44:12,624 --> 00:44:14,194
FOREPERSON:
We have, Your Honor.
878
00:44:14,259 --> 00:44:15,829
Will the defendant please rise?
879
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:20,032
On the sole count
of the indictment,
880
00:44:20,098 --> 00:44:23,045
murder in the first degree,
how do you find?
881
00:44:23,101 --> 00:44:26,014
We find the defendant guilty.
882
00:44:40,152 --> 00:44:42,894
I hear the First Amendment's
alive and well.
883
00:44:42,955 --> 00:44:45,959
For now. It'll keep
taking potshots.
884
00:44:46,025 --> 00:44:48,266
And the Larry Brunigs
of the world won't help.
885
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,401
Maybe if he hadn't
stopped painting.
71506
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