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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,379 --> 00:00:03,120 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,214 --> 00:00:07,060 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:07,118 --> 00:00:08,961 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:11,763 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,857 --> 00:00:13,632 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,193 --> 00:00:16,501 MAN: Okay, you're clear. 7 00:00:19,431 --> 00:00:20,876 You're good to go, Frank. 8 00:00:37,917 --> 00:00:39,294 POLLACK: Nice take-off, Frankie. 9 00:00:39,452 --> 00:00:42,228 You keep this up, you could land on a dime, make change. 10 00:00:43,423 --> 00:00:44,493 That was a joke, Frank. 11 00:00:44,557 --> 00:00:46,696 FRANK: Okay. I'm sorry. 12 00:00:47,527 --> 00:00:49,734 Five, plus pilot on board, Robby. 13 00:00:50,196 --> 00:00:52,676 Frank, you got a four minute ETA to JFK Radar. 14 00:00:52,732 --> 00:00:55,110 Wind's south-southeast at 12. Visibility, five miles. 15 00:00:55,168 --> 00:00:57,171 (STATIC) 16 00:00:57,237 --> 00:00:58,409 I didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 17 00:00:58,472 --> 00:00:59,644 (BEEPING AND COMMOTION IN BACKGROUND) 18 00:00:59,707 --> 00:01:01,015 Oh, God. Oh, God! 19 00:01:01,075 --> 00:01:02,952 Lewin Heli Flight 6947, this is control. 20 00:01:03,010 --> 00:01:04,114 Do you wish to declare an emergency? 21 00:01:04,178 --> 00:01:05,248 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 22 00:01:05,312 --> 00:01:07,451 Lewin Heli Flight 6947, Frank? (EXPLODING) 23 00:01:07,514 --> 00:01:09,323 Robby, call 911! 24 00:01:11,952 --> 00:01:14,057 LEWIN: I've seen them go down before, not like this. 25 00:01:14,121 --> 00:01:15,191 Fell like a rock. 26 00:01:15,255 --> 00:01:17,098 Six on board, including the pilot. 27 00:01:17,157 --> 00:01:19,262 We're gonna need names, addresses, next of kin. 28 00:01:19,326 --> 00:01:20,431 I'll get on it now. 29 00:01:20,495 --> 00:01:22,907 The bureau wants the names withheld, pending investigation. 30 00:01:22,964 --> 00:01:24,136 ED: What about the pilot? 31 00:01:24,199 --> 00:01:26,873 Frank Naransky. Decorated chopper pilot from Vietnam. 32 00:01:26,935 --> 00:01:29,211 Two tours. Shot down twice. 33 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:30,544 Third time's the charm. 34 00:01:30,605 --> 00:01:32,346 When was the last maintenance on the helicopter? 35 00:01:32,407 --> 00:01:33,477 Last week. 36 00:01:33,541 --> 00:01:35,612 Frank already made two runs to JFK this morning. 37 00:01:35,944 --> 00:01:36,945 No problems. 38 00:01:37,212 --> 00:01:38,850 We'll need the service records. 39 00:01:40,515 --> 00:01:41,926 What's it look like? 40 00:01:42,785 --> 00:01:45,732 Chopper's structurally intact. We got three more bodies to pull out. 41 00:01:46,322 --> 00:01:47,323 Bomb damage? 42 00:01:47,389 --> 00:01:48,732 Nothing that punctured the envelope. 43 00:01:49,091 --> 00:01:51,162 But the luggage compartment looks bad. 44 00:01:51,227 --> 00:01:52,365 So it was a bomb? 45 00:01:52,762 --> 00:01:56,369 We got debris, burn marks. Could be a bomb. Could be mechanical failure. 46 00:01:56,932 --> 00:01:59,276 Whatever it was, it's gonna give us nightmares. 47 00:02:51,089 --> 00:02:53,126 STARK: Luggage compartment, back of the chopper. 48 00:02:53,392 --> 00:02:54,530 From the scarring on the metal, 49 00:02:54,593 --> 00:02:56,573 slight tinting rather than major shearing, 50 00:02:56,628 --> 00:02:59,404 seems it was a low order of explosive. Not high tech. 51 00:02:59,531 --> 00:03:00,669 Probably dynamite. 52 00:03:00,732 --> 00:03:02,211 Where was it? In a piece of luggage? 53 00:03:02,267 --> 00:03:03,974 That's the million dollar question. 54 00:03:04,036 --> 00:03:05,481 There's a lot of damage to the luggage, 55 00:03:05,537 --> 00:03:08,279 but mostly from the crash itself, not the explosion. 56 00:03:08,707 --> 00:03:10,345 The initial explosion wasn't that powerful. 57 00:03:10,409 --> 00:03:11,649 It did the trick. 58 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:15,523 We're not talking Osama bin Laden here. Bomb wasn't sophisticated. 59 00:03:15,615 --> 00:03:17,686 If it had been, I wouldn't have luggage to look at. 60 00:03:17,817 --> 00:03:19,728 We talking a timer or an altimeter? 61 00:03:19,819 --> 00:03:21,492 I haven't found pieces from either. 62 00:03:21,554 --> 00:03:23,761 No telling when the bomb was set to detonate. 63 00:03:23,823 --> 00:03:25,530 It might've detonated prematurely? 64 00:03:25,592 --> 00:03:27,003 Strong possibility. 65 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:29,403 These people were all bound for JFK flights. 66 00:03:29,462 --> 00:03:31,339 The bomb could've been meant for a jet. 67 00:03:31,397 --> 00:03:32,501 We'll cover that end. 68 00:03:32,565 --> 00:03:34,636 When can we get a definitive answer on the luggage? 69 00:03:34,834 --> 00:03:37,475 I'm not sure. We're working as fast as we can. 70 00:03:37,671 --> 00:03:40,515 All right. Check out passengers, pilots, 71 00:03:40,574 --> 00:03:42,019 anyone who might've come in contact 72 00:03:42,076 --> 00:03:44,147 with this chopper before it took off. 73 00:03:47,047 --> 00:03:49,618 LEWIN: I thought it was a maintenance problem, now it's a bomb? 74 00:03:49,683 --> 00:03:51,685 I'm sure your lawyers will be relieved. 75 00:03:52,686 --> 00:03:53,790 Not my point, of course. 76 00:03:53,854 --> 00:03:56,198 Of course. Can I see your flight manifest? 77 00:03:58,025 --> 00:03:59,972 Mr. Lewin, who loaded the bags? 78 00:04:00,328 --> 00:04:02,865 Our people, all long-term employees. 79 00:04:03,298 --> 00:04:04,709 ED: Any grudges you know about? 80 00:04:04,766 --> 00:04:06,473 I pay my guys well. They got good bennies. 81 00:04:06,568 --> 00:04:08,844 Union says I gotta do this or that. I go four steps better. 82 00:04:08,903 --> 00:04:10,644 Just a generous guy, huh? 83 00:04:10,705 --> 00:04:12,878 Just good business sense. Turnover costs can kill you. 84 00:04:12,941 --> 00:04:14,614 Anyone else have access to the luggage? 85 00:04:14,809 --> 00:04:17,312 Just my guys. Passenger hands one of them the bags, 86 00:04:17,379 --> 00:04:18,449 he puts it on board. 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,757 So where were you when the flight was loading? 88 00:04:20,815 --> 00:04:22,955 My helicopters. I'm always here. I check with the pilot. 89 00:04:23,019 --> 00:04:24,430 ED: Naransky? Yeah. 90 00:04:24,487 --> 00:04:26,763 Just before he took off, I gave him a thumbs up and I headed back in. 91 00:04:26,923 --> 00:04:30,894 Passengers Elliot and Janelle Patchett, and their daughter, Ally. 92 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,470 Yeah. Kid looked to be about five. 93 00:04:33,529 --> 00:04:36,510 Joseph A. Callister. Talk to any of these people? 94 00:04:36,565 --> 00:04:37,942 No. Saw them board, is all. 95 00:04:39,435 --> 00:04:41,278 Tony Rollins. 96 00:04:41,337 --> 00:04:43,716 Changed his reservation five times. 97 00:04:43,774 --> 00:04:46,516 It happens, if they can't get the flight they want out of JFK. 98 00:04:46,576 --> 00:04:48,317 Rollins was bound for DC. 99 00:04:48,378 --> 00:04:50,415 Um, a lot of people go to DC. Yeah. 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,756 Lobbyists, politicians, government officials. 101 00:04:52,816 --> 00:04:54,454 If someone's looking to make a statement... 102 00:04:56,153 --> 00:04:59,430 Gibney Telecom, Rollins' employer in Albany, 103 00:04:59,523 --> 00:05:01,901 says Rollins comes to New York three or four times a month. 104 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:05,406 Six trips to Montana in the last four months and a couple to Wyoming. 105 00:05:05,562 --> 00:05:07,668 Guy's got permits for four guns. 106 00:05:07,732 --> 00:05:11,407 Oh, audited by the IRS two times in the last eight years. 107 00:05:11,569 --> 00:05:14,140 A disgruntled taxpayer on his way to DC? 108 00:05:14,205 --> 00:05:17,448 Hey, he's the only passenger that doesn't look like he's been dipped in Pine-Sol. 109 00:05:17,508 --> 00:05:20,216 Well, I guess we're going to Albany. 110 00:05:20,278 --> 00:05:21,382 Yeah. 111 00:05:25,249 --> 00:05:27,388 I wanted to go to New York. 112 00:05:28,753 --> 00:05:30,631 To claim my husband's body. 113 00:05:32,324 --> 00:05:34,964 The FBI told me they weren't releasing any of them yet. 114 00:05:37,229 --> 00:05:39,368 I have children to care for. 115 00:05:40,933 --> 00:05:43,174 I don't understand. How do I know it's him? 116 00:05:43,502 --> 00:05:45,277 Tony wasn't supposed to be in New York. 117 00:05:45,337 --> 00:05:46,441 What? 118 00:05:46,505 --> 00:05:49,418 He told me he was going to DC on Thursday. 119 00:05:49,475 --> 00:05:51,717 He couldn't have been on that helicopter the next day. 120 00:05:53,413 --> 00:05:56,587 Mrs. Rollins, is this your husband? 121 00:05:57,584 --> 00:05:59,495 (GASPING) Oh, my God! 122 00:06:00,453 --> 00:06:01,488 I'm sorry. 123 00:06:01,554 --> 00:06:04,398 Mrs. Rollins, did your husband have a problem with the government? 124 00:06:05,025 --> 00:06:06,197 A grudge against the IRS? 125 00:06:06,259 --> 00:06:07,294 No. 126 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Why would you ask that? 127 00:06:08,661 --> 00:06:09,833 He had two audits. 128 00:06:11,398 --> 00:06:12,809 His accountant handled it. 129 00:06:13,366 --> 00:06:16,143 Mrs. Rollins, these people are with our Crime Scene Unit, 130 00:06:16,203 --> 00:06:17,739 we need them to take a look around. 131 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:21,142 Why? You think he did this? 132 00:06:21,242 --> 00:06:24,883 We have to check on everybody. Can we get your permission? 133 00:06:28,649 --> 00:06:31,255 Uh, do you know who he saw in Montana? 134 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,329 No. It was work. 135 00:06:34,989 --> 00:06:36,229 ED: How about Wyoming? 136 00:06:37,192 --> 00:06:38,967 It was for his work. 137 00:06:39,227 --> 00:06:40,763 Well, who did he know in New York? 138 00:06:40,829 --> 00:06:42,866 He just went in for business when he had to. 139 00:06:42,931 --> 00:06:43,966 He hated New York. 140 00:06:44,366 --> 00:06:45,868 Did you talk to him on Thursday? 141 00:06:49,438 --> 00:06:51,042 He never called. 142 00:06:52,941 --> 00:06:55,547 Instead, I get a call from the police. 143 00:06:57,879 --> 00:06:59,791 He's never coming home. 144 00:07:05,922 --> 00:07:07,993 Nothing suspicious about his travels. 145 00:07:08,057 --> 00:07:10,230 Montana and Wyoming are hot territories for us. 146 00:07:10,426 --> 00:07:12,133 And the tax audits? Was he upset about them? 147 00:07:12,195 --> 00:07:13,868 Wouldn't you be? But he handled it. 148 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:15,568 Tony took everything in stride. 149 00:07:15,631 --> 00:07:16,974 Where was he on Thursday? 150 00:07:17,033 --> 00:07:19,775 Supposed to be in Washington. Said he was talking to some lobbyist. 151 00:07:19,836 --> 00:07:21,213 That's what his wife thought, too. 152 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:22,841 He have a habit of disappearing? 153 00:07:22,906 --> 00:07:24,214 Tony did his job well. 154 00:07:24,274 --> 00:07:27,278 I figured he was where he told me when he told me. 155 00:07:27,344 --> 00:07:29,620 Did you handle his travel arrangements, Miss Ippolito? 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,123 Most of the time, yes. 157 00:07:32,716 --> 00:07:35,993 Did you, uh, did you book these tickets to Washington on Friday? 158 00:07:37,921 --> 00:07:39,423 Cheryl, if you know something... 159 00:07:39,490 --> 00:07:40,901 He said he had to stay in New York. 160 00:07:40,991 --> 00:07:42,299 He tell you why? 161 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:44,329 Personal matter. I didn't ask. 162 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:46,102 ED: When was the last time you talked to him? 163 00:07:46,164 --> 00:07:47,507 Friday morning. He was in a rush. 164 00:07:47,565 --> 00:07:49,101 He asked me to call the hotel, 165 00:07:49,167 --> 00:07:52,080 arrange to have his luggage waiting him at the JFK Heliport. 166 00:07:52,570 --> 00:07:55,073 Here it is. Two pieces. 167 00:07:56,074 --> 00:07:59,283 Tote bag, standard suitcase. 168 00:07:59,644 --> 00:08:01,783 Anthony Rollins, Albany, New York. 169 00:08:01,913 --> 00:08:06,123 Shaving kit, toothbrush, toothpaste, 170 00:08:06,251 --> 00:08:10,758 aftershave, box of condoms, half used. 171 00:08:10,823 --> 00:08:13,702 Victoria's Secret receipt, dated Thursday. 172 00:08:14,193 --> 00:08:17,106 Bra and panty set, size two. 173 00:08:17,630 --> 00:08:18,904 Wife was at least a six. 174 00:08:18,964 --> 00:08:20,500 That explains the condoms. 175 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,274 You're gonna blow up a plane, you spend your last night with some bimbo? 176 00:08:24,503 --> 00:08:26,141 You'd think he'd spend it with his kids. 177 00:08:26,305 --> 00:08:28,512 You notice anybody waiting for the chopper to get here? 178 00:08:28,574 --> 00:08:30,281 Couple of business people. Regulars. 179 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:32,186 BRISCOE: Nothing suspicious? No. 180 00:08:32,245 --> 00:08:33,815 So nothing unusual that morning? 181 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,985 Just a little late getting off the last trip back to Manhattan. 182 00:08:36,049 --> 00:08:37,050 Why late? 183 00:08:37,117 --> 00:08:39,063 The pilot, Frank Naransky. He was on the phone. 184 00:08:40,453 --> 00:08:41,796 He usually hold things up? 185 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:43,357 No. Frank was by the book. 186 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:44,560 Except this time. 187 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:46,929 Even when we called the return flight to Manhattan, 188 00:08:46,993 --> 00:08:48,734 he stayed on the phone, made a few more calls. 189 00:08:48,995 --> 00:08:50,235 You talk to him about it? 190 00:08:50,297 --> 00:08:51,537 He told me to back off. 191 00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:54,244 He was into his conversation. Seemed angry. 192 00:08:54,602 --> 00:08:55,740 Didn't know if it was with me 193 00:08:55,803 --> 00:08:57,077 or the person he was talking to. 194 00:08:57,138 --> 00:08:59,084 Who was he talking to? No idea. 195 00:08:59,574 --> 00:09:02,953 But every time he hung up he put in more coins, dialed again. 196 00:09:03,211 --> 00:09:04,815 Flight left 10 minutes late. 197 00:09:08,049 --> 00:09:10,290 You can insist on talking to my sister all you want, 198 00:09:10,351 --> 00:09:11,591 but I'm telling you, she is too upset. 199 00:09:11,652 --> 00:09:14,792 Your brother-in-law called home three times from JFK. 200 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:16,199 We need to know what he told his wife. 201 00:09:16,258 --> 00:09:17,635 I don't care whether he called her every 30 seconds. 202 00:09:17,693 --> 00:09:18,797 Maybe he wanted to tell her he loved her. 203 00:09:18,860 --> 00:09:20,066 Mr. Cusack... Look, 204 00:09:20,128 --> 00:09:23,507 that's it, you know? She'll call you when she's ready, okay? Goodbye. 205 00:09:25,334 --> 00:09:27,678 Give her a couple of hours, take another run at it. 206 00:09:27,736 --> 00:09:30,910 The next phone number on the list is Schirloff and Company. 207 00:09:32,674 --> 00:09:33,709 You're sure about the calls? 208 00:09:33,775 --> 00:09:36,221 Two of them. From JFK to your extension. 209 00:09:36,278 --> 00:09:38,418 Frank Naransky. Oh, yeah. 210 00:09:38,648 --> 00:09:39,683 Bad news. 211 00:09:39,749 --> 00:09:42,195 Yeah. He died along with five other people. 212 00:09:42,252 --> 00:09:43,731 I didn't mean that. 213 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:46,198 His wife, Patricia, she has lupus. 214 00:09:46,256 --> 00:09:47,633 Naransky was on the warpath. 215 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:51,399 Wanted the company to pay for a kidney transplant to get her off dialysis. 216 00:09:51,494 --> 00:09:52,837 Is that so unusual? 217 00:09:52,895 --> 00:09:55,637 Patty Naransky was sick, dialysis once a week. 218 00:09:55,698 --> 00:09:57,507 One doctor pushing for the operation. 219 00:09:57,567 --> 00:10:00,776 But our doctors say she's getting better, the treatment's working. 220 00:10:00,837 --> 00:10:02,875 Which doesn't qualify her for a transplant? 221 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:04,613 Which makes it elective surgery. 222 00:10:04,675 --> 00:10:06,348 She doesn't need a transplant. 223 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:08,317 And Naransky didn't get this? 224 00:10:08,379 --> 00:10:12,293 He didn't want her to suffer any more dialysis, more hospital stays. 225 00:10:12,816 --> 00:10:13,920 Big battle. 226 00:10:13,984 --> 00:10:17,329 Naransky wrote letters, called two times a day in the last couple of weeks. 227 00:10:17,388 --> 00:10:19,095 How much money are we talking about? 228 00:10:19,156 --> 00:10:21,966 200,000 for an unnecessary procedure. 229 00:10:22,526 --> 00:10:24,564 So did you talk to him that Friday? 230 00:10:24,629 --> 00:10:26,131 No. We knew what he wanted 231 00:10:26,197 --> 00:10:28,040 and we didn't want to hear it anymore. 232 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,002 Our hands were tied. 233 00:10:30,835 --> 00:10:32,371 I bet. 234 00:10:33,338 --> 00:10:35,340 BRISCOE: His bank says he tried to get a loan. 235 00:10:35,407 --> 00:10:37,717 But who's gonna put up 200 grand for a procedure 236 00:10:37,776 --> 00:10:39,517 the HMO hasn't green lighted? 237 00:10:39,577 --> 00:10:41,079 What are his finances like? 238 00:10:41,146 --> 00:10:43,285 Second on the house. Took his oldest son out of college, 239 00:10:43,348 --> 00:10:44,986 sent him to a JC to save money. 240 00:10:45,050 --> 00:10:46,655 A man in a deep hole. 241 00:10:46,786 --> 00:10:48,390 Okay, it's all set up. 242 00:10:48,454 --> 00:10:50,058 Listen close. The first voice we're gonna hear 243 00:10:50,122 --> 00:10:51,931 is the controller at the heliport. 244 00:10:51,991 --> 00:10:54,437 POLLACK: Frank, you got a four minute ETA to JFK Radar. 245 00:10:54,527 --> 00:10:56,837 POLLACK: Winds south-southeast at 12. Visibility, five miles. 246 00:10:56,896 --> 00:10:58,307 (STATIC) 247 00:10:58,364 --> 00:10:59,536 Didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 248 00:10:59,632 --> 00:11:01,236 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) FRANK: Oh, my God! 249 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:02,904 Well, that clears things up. 250 00:11:03,336 --> 00:11:05,441 PAYDEN: It will if we reduce the static, 251 00:11:05,538 --> 00:11:08,781 pull up the voice print and slam out interference. 252 00:11:09,009 --> 00:11:11,250 BRISCOE: If it's Michael Bolton, I'm out of here. 253 00:11:11,345 --> 00:11:12,722 (CHUCKLES) Okay, here we go. 254 00:11:13,981 --> 00:11:15,358 Visibility five miles. 255 00:11:15,415 --> 00:11:17,622 FRANK: I'm sorry. Didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 256 00:11:17,684 --> 00:11:20,290 I'm sorry... Just tell them I'm sorry. 257 00:11:20,687 --> 00:11:22,826 (SCREAMING) Oh, God. 258 00:11:22,923 --> 00:11:25,369 Lewin Heli Flight 6947 this is control. Do you wish to... 259 00:11:27,227 --> 00:11:29,207 Frank had his flight bag. What was in it? 260 00:11:29,329 --> 00:11:31,708 Aftershave, clean socks, personal stuff. 261 00:11:31,766 --> 00:11:34,144 Did Naransky carry-on anything besides the bag? 262 00:11:34,202 --> 00:11:35,237 Just his bag. 263 00:11:35,303 --> 00:11:36,873 You and Naransky, what'd you talk about? 264 00:11:36,938 --> 00:11:38,076 Nothing really. Chitchat. 265 00:11:38,139 --> 00:11:39,174 You known him long? 266 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,913 Twenty years. My best pilot. 267 00:11:40,975 --> 00:11:43,080 So, if he had a problem, you'd cover for him? 268 00:11:43,144 --> 00:11:44,987 Much as I like someone, I'm not gonna cover for someone 269 00:11:45,046 --> 00:11:46,753 who turns five people into pancake batter. 270 00:11:46,814 --> 00:11:48,691 BRISCOE: Yeah. But if you didn't suspect... 271 00:11:50,885 --> 00:11:52,489 Mr. Lewin... 272 00:11:52,687 --> 00:11:54,098 It's not what Frank said. 273 00:11:54,155 --> 00:11:55,191 Attitude? 274 00:11:55,524 --> 00:11:56,969 Yeah. I thought it was more of the usual, you know? 275 00:11:57,025 --> 00:11:58,663 Patty's so sick. Stress. 276 00:11:58,727 --> 00:12:00,297 Enough stress for him to lose it? 277 00:12:01,029 --> 00:12:04,875 Guy flew 168 missions in Nam, scooping grunts out of rice paddies. 278 00:12:04,933 --> 00:12:07,038 He was gonna lose it, he'd have done it then. 279 00:12:07,102 --> 00:12:09,480 But he said or did something that day to concern you? 280 00:12:09,538 --> 00:12:12,747 He was tired, all right? He told me he wasn't sure he could take it anymore. 281 00:12:12,808 --> 00:12:14,310 Meaning what, the job? 282 00:12:14,376 --> 00:12:15,980 Meaning he needed a vacation. 283 00:12:16,278 --> 00:12:19,522 But maybe Frank was tired or upset, but this guy, 284 00:12:19,582 --> 00:12:20,959 he was a religious man. 285 00:12:21,484 --> 00:12:23,930 Risky business, piloting a chopper. 286 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,292 He carried big-time insurance. 287 00:12:25,355 --> 00:12:27,494 Union insurance. Insurance through us. 288 00:12:28,091 --> 00:12:30,196 Most of them carry private insurance, too. 289 00:12:30,794 --> 00:12:32,432 Might add up to 200 grand. 290 00:12:34,064 --> 00:12:36,567 I know my husband. It wasn't suicide. 291 00:12:36,766 --> 00:12:39,440 We know you had a pretty big financial burden. 292 00:12:39,502 --> 00:12:40,846 Frank was under the gun. 293 00:12:41,806 --> 00:12:45,652 My brother was helping Gonna raise money for the transplant costs. 294 00:12:45,709 --> 00:12:46,881 ED: Two hundred K? 295 00:12:47,378 --> 00:12:48,686 I'm trying to mortgage my condo. 296 00:12:48,746 --> 00:12:50,225 That's gonna bring in... What? 297 00:12:50,281 --> 00:12:51,817 Not enough, okay. 298 00:12:51,882 --> 00:12:53,555 I got about 50,000 in equity. 299 00:12:54,118 --> 00:12:56,826 Mrs. Naransky, we know your husband had insurance. 300 00:12:56,887 --> 00:12:58,560 Over a million by our reckoning. 301 00:12:58,622 --> 00:13:01,899 And you know what? They determine he committed suicide, 302 00:13:01,959 --> 00:13:03,064 they don't pay. 303 00:13:03,128 --> 00:13:04,732 Think a man desperate to save his wife 304 00:13:04,796 --> 00:13:06,776 is gonna leave her with no way to save herself? 305 00:13:09,868 --> 00:13:11,176 The bomb was in a small cardboard box, 306 00:13:11,236 --> 00:13:13,910 probably inside a paper bag, in the luggage compartment. 307 00:13:14,139 --> 00:13:15,413 Maybe a gift box. 308 00:13:15,474 --> 00:13:16,714 Hell of a surprise. 309 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:18,650 Any chance of getting prints off the box? 310 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:21,691 Not with our equipment. I've sent it over to the Feds. 311 00:13:21,746 --> 00:13:24,124 See that dark loop on the top of that one protruding piece? 312 00:13:24,182 --> 00:13:26,322 ED: Looks like letters, T and a Y. 313 00:13:26,385 --> 00:13:27,921 Yeah. I was hoping it was a watermark, 314 00:13:27,987 --> 00:13:29,694 but there's nothing in the American register. 315 00:13:29,755 --> 00:13:31,962 We're trying European and Asian markings now. 316 00:13:32,358 --> 00:13:33,860 Hey, it looks like it was red. 317 00:13:33,926 --> 00:13:34,996 Can't be sure. 318 00:13:35,061 --> 00:13:38,167 Color can change from exposure, a fading element. 319 00:13:38,264 --> 00:13:40,039 Yeah, but... 320 00:13:41,033 --> 00:13:43,673 Red box. Koty and Sons? 321 00:13:43,836 --> 00:13:45,873 The gift shop on Madison Avenue? Yeah. 322 00:13:45,938 --> 00:13:48,180 You picturing Naransky doing his Christmas shopping there? 323 00:13:48,242 --> 00:13:49,516 It's a start. 324 00:13:49,576 --> 00:13:50,782 It's a hunch. 325 00:13:53,046 --> 00:13:54,992 I don't see a purchase by a Naransky. 326 00:13:55,048 --> 00:13:57,028 Maybe something shipped to a Naransky? 327 00:13:57,084 --> 00:13:58,563 This high-grade cardboard, 328 00:13:58,652 --> 00:14:00,962 we only use it in the smaller size gift boxes, 329 00:14:01,021 --> 00:14:02,364 it's about nine by five. 330 00:14:02,489 --> 00:14:03,991 BRISCOE: Could you check for us? 331 00:14:04,057 --> 00:14:06,503 Maybe a humidor, very popular items. 332 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,562 They'd fit the dimensions of the box. 333 00:14:09,696 --> 00:14:12,678 No purchase by a Naransky. No shipping to a Naransky. 334 00:14:12,901 --> 00:14:14,847 Would you have a record if he paid cash? 335 00:14:14,903 --> 00:14:16,644 Our patrons rarely pay cash. 336 00:14:16,704 --> 00:14:19,742 How about anything in that size in the week before the ninth? 337 00:14:21,476 --> 00:14:23,581 A clock, sent out of state. 338 00:14:23,678 --> 00:14:24,918 A man's accessory box. 339 00:14:24,979 --> 00:14:26,049 ED: Who bought it? 340 00:14:26,114 --> 00:14:27,149 The name's Callister. 341 00:14:27,215 --> 00:14:28,319 BRISCOE: Joseph Callister? 342 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:30,358 No. An M. Callister. 343 00:14:30,585 --> 00:14:33,123 Close enough. Callister, the passenger bound for Indianapolis. 344 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:35,430 Next of kin, Maggie Callister. 345 00:14:36,825 --> 00:14:40,466 I haven't seen Mrs. Callister in at least three weeks. 346 00:14:40,529 --> 00:14:42,099 Before her husband died? Yeah. 347 00:14:42,164 --> 00:14:43,871 Did you see Mr. Callister the morning he died? 348 00:14:43,933 --> 00:14:46,812 Yeah. I got him a cab. He was going out to JFK. 349 00:14:47,036 --> 00:14:50,142 I told him I heard on the radio that the tunnel was blocked. 350 00:14:50,206 --> 00:14:52,686 So he decided to go to the heliport instead. 351 00:14:54,944 --> 00:14:57,721 Mrs. LaSasso. She lives next door to the Callisters. 352 00:14:57,781 --> 00:15:00,091 These detectives are looking for Mrs. Callister. 353 00:15:00,183 --> 00:15:01,287 Well, I haven't seen her. 354 00:15:01,351 --> 00:15:02,421 Any idea where she is? 355 00:15:02,552 --> 00:15:05,226 I would've said divorce court, but I guess that's moot now. 356 00:15:05,388 --> 00:15:07,994 Yeah, I guess. Callisters didn't get along, huh? 357 00:15:08,258 --> 00:15:10,534 Voices raised in anger, doors slamming. 358 00:15:10,794 --> 00:15:12,239 You know what they were arguing about? 359 00:15:12,696 --> 00:15:16,234 Just screaming. I wasn't eavesdropping, Officer. 360 00:15:16,466 --> 00:15:18,036 BRISCOE: Do you have any idea where she might've gone? 361 00:15:18,101 --> 00:15:21,083 I think she had family in Indiana. Besides that, I don't know. 362 00:15:21,572 --> 00:15:22,573 Thank you. 363 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,278 If Mrs. Callister shows up, give us a call. 364 00:15:24,342 --> 00:15:25,412 Sure. 365 00:15:25,476 --> 00:15:29,117 Knock-down, drag-out. I wonder if she even bothered to claim the body? 366 00:15:34,952 --> 00:15:36,363 What can we do for you, Detectives? 367 00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:38,331 BRISCOE: Just come from the coroner's office. 368 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:40,665 They gave us this address for Maggie Callister. 369 00:15:40,758 --> 00:15:42,432 Yes. Maggie's been staying with us, 370 00:15:42,494 --> 00:15:45,532 which explains why she gave this address when she claimed Joe's body. 371 00:15:45,597 --> 00:15:47,543 She's not here now, though. She's returned to work. 372 00:15:47,599 --> 00:15:49,135 How long has she been staying here? 373 00:15:49,201 --> 00:15:51,340 ELIAS: On and off, for a couple of weeks. 374 00:15:51,403 --> 00:15:53,314 Since before her husband's death? 375 00:15:53,372 --> 00:15:55,249 Joe stayed here a few nights as well. 376 00:15:55,307 --> 00:15:56,752 BRISCOE: Nice bed and breakfast. 377 00:15:56,808 --> 00:15:59,482 They're having their apartment painted. Putting it on the market. 378 00:15:59,544 --> 00:16:01,683 We heard they were having marital problems. 379 00:16:01,747 --> 00:16:03,226 If so, we never heard. 380 00:16:03,281 --> 00:16:05,660 Neighbor said they were really going at it. 381 00:16:05,718 --> 00:16:07,595 They have strong personalities. 382 00:16:07,654 --> 00:16:10,294 So do we. Nothing unhealthy about that. (CHUCKLING) 383 00:16:10,957 --> 00:16:13,460 Doesn't it feel great when you say what you feel? 384 00:16:13,526 --> 00:16:15,369 I tried that with my first wife. 385 00:16:15,528 --> 00:16:17,235 How long have you known the Callisters? 386 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:19,810 Uh, we met at a rare books auction last year. 387 00:16:19,866 --> 00:16:23,211 We were bidding on the same first edition of Sanders' Geografica. 388 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:25,911 If you'll excuse me for saying so, uh, 389 00:16:25,972 --> 00:16:28,613 you and the Callisters hardly seem to be in the same league. 390 00:16:28,675 --> 00:16:30,621 It's just appearances, Detective. 391 00:16:30,711 --> 00:16:32,816 If you have more questions, you should ask Maggie. 392 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,359 Excuse us. 393 00:16:38,852 --> 00:16:41,492 I had something to do with Joe's life, Detectives, 394 00:16:41,855 --> 00:16:43,300 not his death. 395 00:16:43,357 --> 00:16:46,099 I'm sorry. We have to ask these questions to... 396 00:16:46,193 --> 00:16:47,934 To cover your bases. Well... 397 00:16:49,497 --> 00:16:51,101 You're off base. 398 00:16:51,499 --> 00:16:53,638 Mrs. Callister, uh, 399 00:16:53,702 --> 00:16:57,844 did you purchase a man's accessory box at Koty and Sons? 400 00:16:59,107 --> 00:17:02,782 I shop there often, I can't remember every purchase. 401 00:17:02,844 --> 00:17:05,757 This you'd remember. A few days before your husband's death. 402 00:17:06,848 --> 00:17:08,691 Uh, I... I'm sorry. 403 00:17:08,750 --> 00:17:11,356 Uh, your neighbor, Mrs. LaSasso, 404 00:17:11,419 --> 00:17:12,990 says she heard you two arguing. 405 00:17:13,055 --> 00:17:16,298 Ellen LaSasso is a very nice old woman. 406 00:17:16,759 --> 00:17:19,569 But my husband and I were still very much in love. 407 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:22,871 Pretty early to be back to work. 408 00:17:24,133 --> 00:17:28,639 If I sit in one place too long and dwell on Joe's death, I will fall apart. 409 00:17:30,172 --> 00:17:32,948 Were they selling to buy a bigger place or to buy two places? 410 00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:36,456 Can't find anything but the primary real estate listing for sale. 411 00:17:36,513 --> 00:17:39,517 There's no bids on prospective property, nothing in escrow. 412 00:17:39,583 --> 00:17:41,529 Their bank accounts have minimum balances. 413 00:17:41,585 --> 00:17:43,895 Joint account had just enough to cover their nut. 414 00:17:43,954 --> 00:17:45,456 Well, how much were these people making? 415 00:17:45,522 --> 00:17:48,765 She's a partner in an ad firm. He owns a dot-com book company 416 00:17:48,825 --> 00:17:50,168 that just went public last year. 417 00:17:50,227 --> 00:17:53,037 Mid six figures a month, we can't find any of it. 418 00:17:53,096 --> 00:17:56,270 When someone's thinking divorce, they hide assets. 419 00:17:56,466 --> 00:17:59,038 Maybe that's what Maggie Callister was afraid of. 420 00:17:59,103 --> 00:18:02,346 But if the husband dies, she inherits all the hidden assets. 421 00:18:03,107 --> 00:18:05,417 Did she strike you as the happy bomb maker? 422 00:18:05,476 --> 00:18:07,422 Bomb lab says it was a simple device. 423 00:18:07,478 --> 00:18:10,015 Something even the dumbest hired gun could cook up. 424 00:18:10,148 --> 00:18:11,388 (PHONE RINGING) 425 00:18:11,949 --> 00:18:13,292 Van Buren. 426 00:18:14,986 --> 00:18:17,330 All right. All right. We'll follow it down. 427 00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:18,556 Thanks. 428 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:22,331 The Feds found a print on the gift box. 429 00:18:22,795 --> 00:18:25,139 It's a match to Maggie Callister. 430 00:18:26,065 --> 00:18:27,738 (KNOCKING) Maggie. 431 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,105 Trust me. Do what they say. 432 00:18:30,169 --> 00:18:32,809 Hold up your head up. You can handle this. 433 00:18:34,273 --> 00:18:36,150 BRISCOE: Margaret Callister, you're under arrest 434 00:18:36,208 --> 00:18:38,814 for the murder of your husband, Joseph, and five other people. 435 00:18:38,877 --> 00:18:39,878 I didn't do it. 436 00:18:39,945 --> 00:18:41,015 You left your prints on the bomb. 437 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:42,650 You will be fine. 438 00:18:43,416 --> 00:18:46,397 ED: You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can... 439 00:18:49,689 --> 00:18:51,566 Six counts murder one. 440 00:18:52,225 --> 00:18:54,466 My client's an ad exec, McCoy, not the Una-bomber. 441 00:18:54,527 --> 00:18:56,632 She wouldn't know a stick of dynamite from a set of spark plugs. 442 00:18:56,696 --> 00:18:58,642 I'm sure she found someone who did. 443 00:18:58,832 --> 00:19:01,312 I'll only accept a plea for the entire indictment. 444 00:19:01,401 --> 00:19:02,937 What's my client's impetus? 445 00:19:03,002 --> 00:19:04,447 A second bowl of Jell-O at Bedford? 446 00:19:04,971 --> 00:19:08,146 This goes to trial, no jury gives her less than a death penalty. 447 00:19:08,209 --> 00:19:09,279 Based on what? 448 00:19:09,343 --> 00:19:11,550 A box she may have bought that may have contained a bomb? 449 00:19:11,612 --> 00:19:13,285 We have her fingerprints on that box. 450 00:19:13,347 --> 00:19:15,884 A, one partial print. 451 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:19,723 And B, touching a box isn't yet a crime in New York State. 452 00:19:20,621 --> 00:19:22,294 Motion to dismiss. 453 00:19:24,091 --> 00:19:27,197 One SOB to another, it's going to be a pleasure. 454 00:19:35,137 --> 00:19:38,550 "Evidence insufficient, flawed indictment." It goes on and on. 455 00:19:38,807 --> 00:19:41,845 It's moot if we conclusively connect her to the bomb, 456 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:43,685 find her bomb maker. 457 00:19:45,213 --> 00:19:48,319 Check out who she knows, where she's been spending her money. 458 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,697 IRA, money market account, CDs. Money in, money out. 459 00:19:54,924 --> 00:19:56,699 I'm only interested in the out. 460 00:19:57,026 --> 00:20:01,133 Any canceled checks, wire transfers, large cash withdrawals? 461 00:20:01,597 --> 00:20:04,737 She's liquidated a number of assets over the past few months. 462 00:20:05,334 --> 00:20:08,338 Closed a brokerage account, several cash accounts. 463 00:20:08,538 --> 00:20:09,812 And where'd the money go? 464 00:20:10,339 --> 00:20:13,081 She took the money in the form of several cashier's checks. 465 00:20:13,142 --> 00:20:14,952 How many and how big? 466 00:20:15,379 --> 00:20:17,723 200,000 over five months. 467 00:20:17,948 --> 00:20:20,656 Endorsed over to the KVG Corporation. 468 00:20:20,717 --> 00:20:21,821 What is that? 469 00:20:22,085 --> 00:20:25,089 She said she and her partner were starting up a new business. 470 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:30,664 GARRET: I've never heard of the KVG Corporation. 471 00:20:30,727 --> 00:20:32,798 And I would've remembered $200,000. 472 00:20:33,263 --> 00:20:35,470 Could she have been pursuing something on her own? 473 00:20:35,532 --> 00:20:36,978 I wouldn't know. 474 00:20:37,101 --> 00:20:38,273 You're partners, aren't you? 475 00:20:38,636 --> 00:20:40,115 Used to be friends, too. 476 00:20:40,672 --> 00:20:43,778 I knew Joe's brother, Pat, at Stanford. That's how I met Maggie. 477 00:20:44,075 --> 00:20:45,145 But six months ago, 478 00:20:45,209 --> 00:20:47,655 no more weekends at the beach house, no more dinners. 479 00:20:48,012 --> 00:20:50,959 Haven't had so much as a latte with Maggie or Joe in months. 480 00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:52,756 Like I fell off their radar. 481 00:20:52,817 --> 00:20:54,228 Did you ask why? 482 00:20:54,285 --> 00:20:56,663 Couldn't pin her down long enough to put the question to her. 483 00:20:56,721 --> 00:20:57,995 And I wasn't the only one. 484 00:20:58,056 --> 00:21:00,594 Pat called here last week looking for his brother. 485 00:21:00,659 --> 00:21:03,503 For God sakes, I had to be the one to tell him about Joe. 486 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:06,236 If I hadn't called Maggie's partner, 487 00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:07,902 I would've missed Joe's funeral. 488 00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:09,906 I can't believe Maggie. 489 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,646 You didn't know they were having problems? 490 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:14,378 No. But I hadn't heard from Joe in months. 491 00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:17,185 And I called, I left messages, but never heard back. 492 00:21:17,242 --> 00:21:19,153 It's like he cut himself off from everybody. 493 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:20,383 I went to the funeral 494 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:22,017 and there was hardly anybody there I recognized. 495 00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:23,185 Who was there? 496 00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:26,322 Uh, this couple, the Graces, Elias and the wife, Valerie. 497 00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:27,490 They seemed to be running the show. 498 00:21:27,554 --> 00:21:28,897 And there were all these other people there. 499 00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,491 There was no one there you knew? 500 00:21:30,557 --> 00:21:33,299 Yeah. Just one of Joe's buddies from Wharton, Al Goren. 501 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,964 I asked him who all these people were 502 00:21:35,028 --> 00:21:36,439 and he told me that they were some friends 503 00:21:36,496 --> 00:21:39,568 that Joe and Maggie had met at some seminars that the Graces had given. 504 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,004 What kind of seminars? 505 00:21:41,067 --> 00:21:43,240 It sounded like a business seminar. 506 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:47,546 Empowering success, envisioning, whatever. 507 00:21:47,608 --> 00:21:49,019 I tuned out. 508 00:21:49,210 --> 00:21:50,621 Do you have Mr. Goren's number? 509 00:21:51,746 --> 00:21:52,816 Yeah. 510 00:21:54,148 --> 00:21:56,788 Bid 42,000 Texas Sweet at 20. 511 00:21:58,352 --> 00:22:01,526 Overcome their inertia with your vigor, they'll play at 20. 512 00:22:01,589 --> 00:22:02,829 Mr. Goren, you mind? 513 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:07,237 My apologies. 514 00:22:07,329 --> 00:22:08,637 Joe Callister. 515 00:22:08,697 --> 00:22:10,370 A terrible loss. Joe was a fine man. 516 00:22:10,866 --> 00:22:12,436 Apparently his wife didn't agree. 517 00:22:12,768 --> 00:22:13,803 That's absurd. 518 00:22:14,569 --> 00:22:16,378 Joe and Maggie were way past petty jealousies. 519 00:22:16,438 --> 00:22:18,384 We had much more important work to do. 520 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,148 What kind of work? 521 00:22:21,576 --> 00:22:22,577 Running the world. 522 00:22:22,644 --> 00:22:23,850 You're joking. 523 00:22:23,912 --> 00:22:25,687 Aim high. Why settle for less? 524 00:22:25,747 --> 00:22:28,193 And you got this from what, the Graces' seminar? 525 00:22:28,784 --> 00:22:31,425 With the right guidance, you can get anything. 526 00:22:31,487 --> 00:22:32,898 Meaning what, money? 527 00:22:33,856 --> 00:22:36,063 Um, that's just the outward trappings. 528 00:22:36,125 --> 00:22:38,002 Success, beyond any measure. 529 00:22:38,061 --> 00:22:39,836 That's what it's about, really. 530 00:22:40,096 --> 00:22:42,542 And power, real power. 531 00:22:43,399 --> 00:22:46,539 And what's the right guidance? Elias and Valerie Grace? 532 00:22:46,969 --> 00:22:49,745 The guy's magnetic. And he's right. 533 00:22:51,007 --> 00:22:52,146 That's why he's on the speed dial 534 00:22:52,209 --> 00:22:54,382 of a dozen CEOs of the Fortune 500. 535 00:22:54,511 --> 00:22:55,819 You know this for a fact? 536 00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:58,519 You listen to him, you're atop performer. 537 00:22:59,049 --> 00:23:00,255 I'm here. 538 00:23:00,718 --> 00:23:02,197 Give me a call if you're interested. 539 00:23:05,823 --> 00:23:08,429 What is this, some kind of crazy cult? 540 00:23:08,859 --> 00:23:10,668 More like a self-actualization group. 541 00:23:10,728 --> 00:23:11,832 Self what? 542 00:23:11,895 --> 00:23:15,309 Self delusion, more like. "Running the world." 543 00:23:15,433 --> 00:23:19,575 I can't get a handle on it, but Elias Grace hardly seems like a role model. 544 00:23:19,938 --> 00:23:23,408 Six years ago, he was convicted of assault and battery in Pennsylvania. 545 00:23:23,475 --> 00:23:25,421 Some guy refused to embrace success? 546 00:23:25,477 --> 00:23:27,923 No. Someone refused to get out of the car, his wife. 547 00:23:27,979 --> 00:23:29,686 He beat his wife? Charming. 548 00:23:29,748 --> 00:23:32,024 What does this have to do with the Callisters? 549 00:23:32,083 --> 00:23:35,826 Maybe a lot. The Callisters, separately and jointly, 550 00:23:35,887 --> 00:23:39,199 liquidated assets worth over one million dollars in the past six months. 551 00:23:39,258 --> 00:23:40,862 That's one-fifth of their net worth. 552 00:23:40,926 --> 00:23:42,030 Where's the money? 553 00:23:42,094 --> 00:23:44,040 It went to the KVG Corporation. 554 00:23:44,096 --> 00:23:48,101 According to state records, it's a non-profit operated by Elias and Valerie Grace, 555 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,778 who seem to be living high off a whole herd of hogs. 556 00:23:50,836 --> 00:23:53,146 Well, a million dollar's worth killing over. 557 00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:54,914 Ask the Graces if they agree. 558 00:23:54,974 --> 00:23:56,044 I tried. 559 00:23:56,108 --> 00:23:57,416 Five calls. No returns. 560 00:23:57,476 --> 00:23:59,251 Then embrace them with a subpoena. 561 00:24:03,183 --> 00:24:05,493 The subpoena was entirely unnecessary. 562 00:24:05,552 --> 00:24:07,190 We knocked, nobody answered. 563 00:24:07,254 --> 00:24:08,733 Ever lose anyone close to you? 564 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:09,824 Mr. Grace... 565 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:11,733 Hard, right? Please. 566 00:24:13,059 --> 00:24:15,130 We went to our Rockland County retreat. 567 00:24:15,195 --> 00:24:16,572 Turned off the phones, 568 00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:19,474 tried to understand how bad things happen to great people. 569 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,507 Looks like things started to go bad 570 00:24:21,568 --> 00:24:23,378 for the Callisters long before this. 571 00:24:23,438 --> 00:24:24,815 Their lifestyles changed... 572 00:24:24,872 --> 00:24:27,409 For the better. They were rudderless before. 573 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:29,150 JACK: Before they met you? 574 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:30,621 Before they were in touch with themselves. 575 00:24:31,646 --> 00:24:32,750 Thanks to you? 576 00:24:32,814 --> 00:24:35,818 I helped them understand that nobody could take away the success 577 00:24:35,883 --> 00:24:37,055 they were entitled to. 578 00:24:37,418 --> 00:24:38,954 Success comes from in here. 579 00:24:39,854 --> 00:24:44,064 So, maybe you can explain how a million dollars of the Callisters' money 580 00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:46,163 found its way into the KVG Corporation. 581 00:24:46,395 --> 00:24:47,430 (SIGHS) 582 00:24:47,496 --> 00:24:49,976 People only value the things they pay for. 583 00:24:50,032 --> 00:24:52,444 Our friends value learning to feel good about themselves. 584 00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:54,377 Learning that is worth a million dollars? 585 00:24:54,436 --> 00:24:55,779 We make it stick. 586 00:24:56,472 --> 00:25:00,579 You know the old story about giving a man a fish versus teaching him to fish? 587 00:25:00,642 --> 00:25:01,882 We teach our friends to fish. 588 00:25:01,944 --> 00:25:05,721 Last year, three of our friends had IPO's in the hundred million range. 589 00:25:05,781 --> 00:25:07,192 It works, Miss Carmichael. 590 00:25:07,249 --> 00:25:09,787 And does this happen with all the members of your group? 591 00:25:10,153 --> 00:25:11,154 ELIAS: Group? 592 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:12,756 JACK: You do have a group, don't you? 593 00:25:13,857 --> 00:25:15,336 A wide circle of friends. 594 00:25:15,825 --> 00:25:16,826 Followers. 595 00:25:16,893 --> 00:25:19,430 If a friend sees a movie on your recommendation, 596 00:25:19,496 --> 00:25:21,703 is he a follower or just interested in your opinion? 597 00:25:22,365 --> 00:25:24,174 And how is your opinion delivered? 598 00:25:24,934 --> 00:25:28,609 We have meetings, retreats, seminars. We're people. 599 00:25:28,671 --> 00:25:30,743 We share our ideas with friends. 600 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:33,210 And in return, they make you rich. 601 00:25:33,277 --> 00:25:37,521 Our friends are grateful, yes, but we aren't a business. Check our records. 602 00:25:37,681 --> 00:25:39,285 We intend to. 603 00:25:40,484 --> 00:25:42,054 I could contest any subpoena. 604 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:44,156 But why would we? 605 00:25:44,221 --> 00:25:46,963 Maybe you'd like to see a pamphlet on our courses? 606 00:25:47,258 --> 00:25:51,206 An ambitious guy like you might want to consider looking at things a new way. 607 00:25:53,732 --> 00:25:56,110 First look, it seems totally innocent. 608 00:25:56,168 --> 00:25:59,843 People taking courses, attending seminars, making contributions. 609 00:26:00,238 --> 00:26:01,683 All of them paying for the privilege. 610 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:04,550 Another fine example of free enterprise. 611 00:26:05,010 --> 00:26:06,421 The Grace records show 20 people 612 00:26:06,478 --> 00:26:10,255 who consistently show up at retreats and seminars, and give money. 613 00:26:10,315 --> 00:26:11,885 There are others, less consistent. 614 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:13,891 Maybe not true believers yet. 615 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,892 Maggie Callister gave the Graces 20% of her monthly income. 616 00:26:18,958 --> 00:26:21,734 Same as all the others, including the IPO millionaires. 617 00:26:22,061 --> 00:26:23,335 Adds up. 618 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:28,073 What'd Joe Callister pay for his self-actualization? 619 00:26:28,334 --> 00:26:30,814 In dollar figures, a little more than his widow. 620 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:33,350 But he was earning over four times as much as she was. 621 00:26:33,673 --> 00:26:35,152 Mmm-hmm. 622 00:26:35,908 --> 00:26:38,115 Was he holding out on the Graces? 623 00:26:39,379 --> 00:26:40,380 (EXHALES) 624 00:26:40,714 --> 00:26:43,661 Got a Harley Ellison, guy from Scranton. 625 00:26:44,685 --> 00:26:47,564 He's getting 20,000 a month from the Graces. 626 00:26:53,660 --> 00:26:55,401 I consult for the Graces. 627 00:26:55,462 --> 00:26:56,634 You write their pamphlets? 628 00:26:56,697 --> 00:26:57,698 No. 629 00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:00,476 You already have two convictions for check-kiting. 630 00:27:01,234 --> 00:27:02,612 From eight years ago. 631 00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:04,616 One more strike and you're out. 632 00:27:07,475 --> 00:27:11,753 I met Elias doing a summer job at a quarry. 633 00:27:12,313 --> 00:27:15,419 His name was Karl Gratz. We were college students. 634 00:27:15,850 --> 00:27:18,729 And the 20,000 a month, that's for old times' sake? 635 00:27:18,786 --> 00:27:20,322 It's a royalty. 636 00:27:20,855 --> 00:27:23,301 We didn't plan on spending the rest of our lives here. 637 00:27:23,358 --> 00:27:24,804 We had active imaginations. 638 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:27,238 One night, Elias, Valerie and I got together 639 00:27:27,296 --> 00:27:28,900 and played at creating our own religion. 640 00:27:29,131 --> 00:27:30,405 And how did the game end? 641 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,671 By dawn we'd come up with eight rules. 642 00:27:33,736 --> 00:27:36,580 I came up with the first rule, "Love yourself." 643 00:27:37,406 --> 00:27:38,817 I lose touch with Elias. 644 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:41,912 Five years ago, I see him on the cover of a magazine, 645 00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:46,220 an article about him and "Mastery For Success," he called it. 646 00:27:46,281 --> 00:27:48,125 All the rules we'd dreamed up. 647 00:27:48,385 --> 00:27:51,525 So you put a call on Elias to see if there's something in it for you. 648 00:27:51,588 --> 00:27:53,499 He's raking it in, hand over fist. 649 00:27:53,556 --> 00:27:54,830 With "love yourself"? 650 00:27:55,091 --> 00:27:56,593 Know your audience. 651 00:27:56,659 --> 00:27:58,434 The people who go to his seminars, 652 00:27:58,495 --> 00:28:01,908 dot-com millionaires who 10 years ago, they didn't have a dime. 653 00:28:01,965 --> 00:28:04,343 Now they have millions and they feel guilty. 654 00:28:04,401 --> 00:28:06,403 They're filled with self-loathing and insecurity. 655 00:28:06,469 --> 00:28:09,075 So, yeah, "love yourself" goes a long way. 656 00:28:09,139 --> 00:28:12,212 But giving away one-fifth of their total net worth? 657 00:28:12,276 --> 00:28:15,120 Rule number four, "Only the chosen can join" 658 00:28:15,179 --> 00:28:17,090 Elias made it an exclusive club. 659 00:28:17,148 --> 00:28:20,925 If you didn't have seven figures in your bank account, keep walking. 660 00:28:21,552 --> 00:28:24,328 And what do the Graces get for their pay-off to you? Your silence? 661 00:28:24,388 --> 00:28:26,095 And my absence. 662 00:28:26,157 --> 00:28:27,898 I didn't like the place anyway. 663 00:28:28,225 --> 00:28:29,898 Guns make me nervous. 664 00:28:30,761 --> 00:28:31,865 Guns? 665 00:28:33,165 --> 00:28:35,372 At the Rockland County place. 666 00:28:36,268 --> 00:28:38,839 That's it for guns? Two $15,000 Parkers? 667 00:28:38,904 --> 00:28:40,212 They shoot skeet. 668 00:28:40,472 --> 00:28:42,349 What do you keep in the shed? 669 00:28:42,407 --> 00:28:43,579 Tools. 670 00:28:43,842 --> 00:28:45,082 Show us. 671 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:51,789 (DOOR CREAKS) 672 00:28:59,459 --> 00:29:01,166 What's the dynamite for? 673 00:29:01,227 --> 00:29:02,968 We got beaver dams. 674 00:29:03,629 --> 00:29:04,801 Pretty big beavers. 675 00:29:04,864 --> 00:29:07,777 Eight half-sticks. You got enough to take you into the next decade. 676 00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:13,011 Eight? Ought to be 10. I bought a dozen half-sticks, used two. 677 00:29:13,172 --> 00:29:15,345 Anybody else have a key to this shed? 678 00:29:15,408 --> 00:29:17,320 Just Mr. Grace. 679 00:29:21,648 --> 00:29:26,358 "Docket 34305, People v. Elias and Valerie Grace." 680 00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:29,492 "Murder in the first degree, six counts each." 681 00:29:29,556 --> 00:29:30,967 How do the defendants plead? 682 00:29:31,024 --> 00:29:32,196 Not guilty, Your Honor. 683 00:29:32,259 --> 00:29:33,966 With my husband, not guilty. 684 00:29:34,061 --> 00:29:37,042 Domestic accord, how touching. People on bail? 685 00:29:37,097 --> 00:29:38,098 Remand, Your Honor. 686 00:29:38,165 --> 00:29:40,976 The Graces killed six people in collusion with Margaret Callister 687 00:29:41,036 --> 00:29:43,482 in an effort to keep one of them from leaving their cult. 688 00:29:43,538 --> 00:29:44,539 Cult? 689 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:49,213 There is no cult, Your Honor, and no evidence linking my clients to the bomb. 690 00:29:49,277 --> 00:29:51,120 Our lab made a chemical match of the bomb 691 00:29:51,179 --> 00:29:53,352 with the explosives seized at the defendants' estate. 692 00:29:53,415 --> 00:29:56,259 Any one of a number of people had access to that dynamite. 693 00:29:56,317 --> 00:29:58,820 Elias Grace worked with explosives at a quarry 694 00:29:58,887 --> 00:30:01,163 and has a history of threatening and violent behavior. 695 00:30:01,222 --> 00:30:04,204 A domestic incident six years ago? 696 00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:06,763 Judge Mannheim, that hardly merits consideration. 697 00:30:06,829 --> 00:30:08,467 I think my wife would disagree. 698 00:30:08,564 --> 00:30:10,066 And as to motive, Your Honor, 699 00:30:10,132 --> 00:30:12,339 the notion that my clients would harm Callister 700 00:30:12,401 --> 00:30:14,381 over a relatively insignificant sum... 701 00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:17,350 Approximately one million dollars at last count, Your Honor. 702 00:30:17,406 --> 00:30:20,785 My clients have access to over 50 million dollars. 703 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:24,457 Then 10 million each shouldn't be a problem. 704 00:30:25,247 --> 00:30:29,128 CLERK: "Docket number 27354, People" 705 00:30:29,352 --> 00:30:31,958 CARMICHAEL: Your husband was withholding money from the group. 706 00:30:32,022 --> 00:30:33,831 He was planning to leave. 707 00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:37,198 Did they tell you that's why they wanted him dead? 708 00:30:37,661 --> 00:30:39,698 If you want to save your life, Mrs. Callister, 709 00:30:39,763 --> 00:30:41,436 you'll cooperate. 710 00:30:41,498 --> 00:30:43,171 RICKS: She didn't do it. 711 00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:46,942 CARMICHAEL: They gave you the bomb to give to your husband, didn't they? 712 00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:52,147 I won't turn against them. 713 00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:56,947 Elias and Valerie... They're multiple murderers. 714 00:30:57,248 --> 00:30:59,592 You don't know what you're talking about. 715 00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:01,857 They're con artists, Mrs. Callister. 716 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:05,230 They used you and your husband to get your money! 717 00:31:05,289 --> 00:31:07,769 No, that is not what they did! 718 00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,773 They taught me how to maximize my success. 719 00:31:10,829 --> 00:31:13,776 They taught me how to negotiate for power. 720 00:31:14,066 --> 00:31:15,977 We're giving you a chance, Mrs. Callister. 721 00:31:16,401 --> 00:31:20,440 If you don't take it, you'll be destroyed along with the Graces. 722 00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:27,156 Elias and Valerie are the greatest people on earth. 723 00:31:27,212 --> 00:31:29,783 You're Neanderthals compared to them. 724 00:31:33,118 --> 00:31:35,429 How does an intelligent woman like Maggie Callister, 725 00:31:35,488 --> 00:31:37,900 get drawn in by these megalomaniacs? 726 00:31:37,957 --> 00:31:40,096 Are we sure the Graces are behind it? 727 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:41,934 They had the means, the motive, 728 00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:44,236 and Elias had the wherewithal to make a bomb. 729 00:31:44,297 --> 00:31:47,073 You have to put that bomb in the Graces' hands. 730 00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:49,773 JACK: Somebody in that group must know something. 731 00:31:49,836 --> 00:31:52,077 Yeah, but if they're anything like Maggie Callister... 732 00:31:52,138 --> 00:31:54,084 At the arraignment, the Graces' attorney said 733 00:31:54,140 --> 00:31:56,553 anyone could've had access to the dynamite. 734 00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:57,645 Well, the groundskeeper said 735 00:31:57,711 --> 00:32:00,089 he and Elias were the only ones with the key to the shed. 736 00:32:00,147 --> 00:32:01,558 He could be wrong. 737 00:32:02,182 --> 00:32:04,093 Let's take them at their word. 738 00:32:04,151 --> 00:32:05,994 Impute the motive to the group as a whole. 739 00:32:06,854 --> 00:32:08,731 Arrest them all? Jack... 740 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:10,791 For conspiracy to commit murder. 741 00:32:11,525 --> 00:32:14,335 And Abbie, this time, get remand. 742 00:32:20,969 --> 00:32:22,209 Conspiracy? 743 00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:24,409 No way you prove an overt act, McCoy. 744 00:32:24,472 --> 00:32:26,145 My client had nothing to do with it. 745 00:32:26,207 --> 00:32:27,914 If he didn't, he knows who did. 746 00:32:27,976 --> 00:32:30,513 You people are so off base about Elias and Valerie. 747 00:32:30,579 --> 00:32:32,115 You're scared of them. That's why you're hounding them. 748 00:32:32,347 --> 00:32:35,692 We're hounding them because they killed six people, including 749 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:36,820 a five-year-old child. 750 00:32:36,885 --> 00:32:39,263 Am I an idiot? Do you think that I would associate myself 751 00:32:39,321 --> 00:32:40,595 with anybody who'd do that? 752 00:32:40,655 --> 00:32:43,637 All that I have achieved, I owe to Elias and Valerie. 753 00:32:43,726 --> 00:32:46,798 I hope you are prepared to give them your all, Mr. Goren. 754 00:32:46,862 --> 00:32:48,205 You'll be here a long time. 755 00:32:48,264 --> 00:32:49,607 (GATE OPENING) 756 00:32:54,036 --> 00:32:55,913 I don't know anything. 757 00:32:57,506 --> 00:32:59,782 My husband brought me to the Graces. 758 00:33:00,476 --> 00:33:02,854 I thought it was an investment group at first. 759 00:33:02,912 --> 00:33:03,913 And then? 760 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:05,426 Alice, don't trust these people. 761 00:33:05,482 --> 00:33:06,984 Help yourself and your husband. 762 00:33:07,050 --> 00:33:08,461 If the Graces didn't do anything wrong, 763 00:33:08,518 --> 00:33:09,792 they don't have anything to hide. 764 00:33:12,656 --> 00:33:16,103 My husband said if we signed over 20% of our assets, 765 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:18,298 they'd be returned a hundred times over. 766 00:33:18,495 --> 00:33:19,701 Were they? 767 00:33:20,297 --> 00:33:24,336 My husband made a lot of money under Elias' guidance, 768 00:33:24,401 --> 00:33:29,010 but it felt like I was losing him. 769 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,185 And Elias never said anything about Joe Callister? 770 00:33:38,583 --> 00:33:40,927 Was Elias angry at Joe about the missing money? 771 00:33:41,586 --> 00:33:42,894 It's nothing like that. 772 00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:48,569 I heard Joe was having an affair. 773 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,162 With whom? 774 00:33:50,863 --> 00:33:52,365 I don't know. 775 00:33:52,431 --> 00:33:53,739 Maggie told me he was on his way 776 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,006 to see his mistress when he was killed. 777 00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:02,608 We're back to a crime of passion? 778 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:04,017 Takes the Graces off the hook. 779 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:05,419 It's just a rumor. 780 00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:07,885 Have the police chase it down. 781 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,422 Joe Callister was booked on a flight to Indianapolis. 782 00:34:14,254 --> 00:34:16,256 No sign of any affair in New York. 783 00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:18,598 If Callister was cheating on his wife, he was a real pro. 784 00:34:18,658 --> 00:34:20,399 Hmm. If you took a page from this guy's book, Lennie, 785 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:21,495 you'd still be married. 786 00:34:21,561 --> 00:34:22,904 Bite your tongue. 787 00:34:22,962 --> 00:34:25,806 He's been to Indianapolis once in two years. 788 00:34:25,865 --> 00:34:27,776 So, he wasn't getting it at that end, either. 789 00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:31,145 Guy was booked on United's 10:00 a.m. to Indianapolis. 790 00:34:31,638 --> 00:34:32,981 Hmm, it's a business trip, so? 791 00:34:33,273 --> 00:34:34,776 American's got a Joseph A. Callister 792 00:34:34,842 --> 00:34:36,253 booked on their 5:00 p.m. to Indianapolis. 793 00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:37,789 Same guy, same day. 794 00:34:37,878 --> 00:34:41,155 A seven-hour layover, figuratively speaking, of course. 795 00:34:41,315 --> 00:34:42,385 Check the airport hotels, 796 00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:44,555 see if Joseph A. Callister had a reservation that day. 797 00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:51,961 Callister, Mr. Joseph A. 798 00:34:52,026 --> 00:34:54,438 Room reserved the day before, never checked in. 799 00:34:54,495 --> 00:34:56,099 BRISCOE: Did he call to cancel? 800 00:34:56,163 --> 00:34:58,144 Records only have him as a no-show. 801 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,838 We held the room until 4:00 p.m., 802 00:34:59,901 --> 00:35:00,902 then voided the transaction. 803 00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:02,644 Did anybody show up looking for him? 804 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:04,943 BRISCOE: Maybe a woman? 805 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,481 Oh, yeah. She came to the desk. 806 00:35:07,542 --> 00:35:09,283 She said if he came in, to tell him 807 00:35:09,344 --> 00:35:10,982 she was waiting for him in the restaurant. 808 00:35:11,046 --> 00:35:12,081 ED: Describe her. 809 00:35:12,147 --> 00:35:14,525 Pretty. Brown hair. Petite. 810 00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:16,353 You wouldn't still have the tape 811 00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:17,590 from the security camera, would you? 812 00:35:17,652 --> 00:35:19,495 We don't. But the FBI does. 813 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:23,199 Bureau scooped security tapes 814 00:35:23,259 --> 00:35:26,206 from airport hotels from before and after the chopper went down 815 00:35:26,262 --> 00:35:27,502 as part of their investigation. 816 00:35:27,597 --> 00:35:29,304 Score one for the good guys. 817 00:35:32,368 --> 00:35:34,473 JACK: Valerie Grace. 818 00:35:34,537 --> 00:35:37,746 Joe Callister and mother superior, one big happy. 819 00:35:38,207 --> 00:35:39,811 She was Callister's lover? 820 00:35:40,176 --> 00:35:42,247 Gives Elias Grace motive in spades. 821 00:35:42,311 --> 00:35:44,451 Yeah, but that still doesn't put the bomb in his mitts. 822 00:35:44,515 --> 00:35:45,926 Talk to his wife. 823 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:48,657 She might like to nail the man who killed her lover. 824 00:35:49,052 --> 00:35:51,362 Well, so far, she's standing by that man. 825 00:35:51,455 --> 00:35:52,832 They're into self-realization, 826 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,927 let's see how they self-realize this tape. 827 00:35:54,992 --> 00:35:55,993 Call their lawyer. 828 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,039 Neanderthals. 829 00:36:00,764 --> 00:36:02,107 Please, sit down. 830 00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,442 We'll take your apologies standing up. 831 00:36:04,501 --> 00:36:06,914 (SIGHS) We know about your affair with Joe Callister. 832 00:36:06,971 --> 00:36:08,211 What are you talking about? 833 00:36:08,773 --> 00:36:12,186 This was taken by a security camera at a hotel near 834 00:36:12,243 --> 00:36:14,746 the airport the day Joe Callister was killed. 835 00:36:14,813 --> 00:36:17,384 That's you, Mrs. Grace, 836 00:36:17,448 --> 00:36:21,055 there to meet Joe Callister, who had reserved a room. 837 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,565 Only, thanks to your husband, Joe never showed up. 838 00:36:23,955 --> 00:36:25,866 I don't know what that tape purports to show, 839 00:36:25,924 --> 00:36:27,562 but my wife was not having an affair. 840 00:36:29,328 --> 00:36:30,705 Sweetheart. 841 00:36:31,897 --> 00:36:34,309 We're willing to consider a deal, Mrs. Grace. 842 00:36:44,109 --> 00:36:46,680 Elias knew about Joe. 843 00:36:46,745 --> 00:36:49,487 Valerie, I strongly urge you to keep your mouth shut. 844 00:36:49,548 --> 00:36:50,549 (SCOFFS) This is absurd. 845 00:36:50,616 --> 00:36:52,119 It was a week before Joe died. 846 00:36:52,352 --> 00:36:54,730 Elias came in the room, I was knitting, 847 00:36:54,788 --> 00:36:56,597 I... I do that when I'm bored. 848 00:36:56,656 --> 00:36:58,465 Valerie, focus. Think what you're doing. 849 00:36:58,525 --> 00:37:00,368 He said he knew about Joe and me, 850 00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:02,196 heard me on the phone with Joe. 851 00:37:02,262 --> 00:37:04,208 All right, now I'm telling you, be quiet! 852 00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:07,609 I just kept knitting, and then he said he forgave me. 853 00:37:08,134 --> 00:37:09,943 He said 854 00:37:10,003 --> 00:37:12,040 I was only human, people make mistakes. 855 00:37:12,105 --> 00:37:16,248 And I believed him, and he believed me. 856 00:37:16,978 --> 00:37:18,958 (SIGHS) I'd like a word with my wife. 857 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Her turn now, Mr. Grace. 858 00:37:20,581 --> 00:37:21,958 If I could just speak to her... 859 00:37:22,016 --> 00:37:23,324 You've spoken quite enough. 860 00:37:23,384 --> 00:37:24,454 My attorney, then... 861 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,396 Time to listen! 862 00:37:27,188 --> 00:37:28,758 Please continue, Mrs. Grace. 863 00:37:34,662 --> 00:37:36,267 I kept knitting. 864 00:37:39,501 --> 00:37:44,041 And I lied to him and I told him Joe and I were finished. 865 00:37:44,506 --> 00:37:46,543 I lied even when he forgave me. 866 00:37:47,342 --> 00:37:49,379 I lied 867 00:37:49,444 --> 00:37:51,253 and I never dropped a stitch. 868 00:37:51,613 --> 00:37:53,456 You knew your husband killed him? 869 00:37:53,949 --> 00:37:55,087 No. 870 00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:59,861 Not until Mr. Heckstrom told me the dynamite came from the shed. 871 00:38:00,290 --> 00:38:02,531 CARMICHAEL: Why didn't you come forward then? 872 00:38:02,992 --> 00:38:04,733 I know what he's capable of. 873 00:38:04,794 --> 00:38:05,932 I was terrified. 874 00:38:06,029 --> 00:38:08,669 Who are you? I made you what you are! 875 00:38:08,731 --> 00:38:10,472 And then you lied! 876 00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,237 You couldn't stand that I strayed. 877 00:38:12,301 --> 00:38:14,212 And look what you did. 878 00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:17,317 Mr. McCoy, take the death penalty off the table, 879 00:38:17,373 --> 00:38:18,613 we'll work something out. 880 00:38:18,675 --> 00:38:21,657 There are six dead people who can't work something out, Mr. Heckstrom. 881 00:38:21,712 --> 00:38:23,885 You gain nothing by executing Elias Grace. 882 00:38:23,947 --> 00:38:25,722 Please don't kill my husband. 883 00:38:25,783 --> 00:38:29,094 Mrs. Grace, you just admitted you knew your husband's a murderer. 884 00:38:29,253 --> 00:38:31,130 Just let him live. 885 00:38:31,188 --> 00:38:34,362 If it weren't for me, for my weakness. 886 00:38:44,636 --> 00:38:46,775 I found out she was having an affair 887 00:38:46,838 --> 00:38:48,875 when I was on a business trip to Seattle. 888 00:38:50,075 --> 00:38:51,816 I called Valerie at home. 889 00:38:52,544 --> 00:38:53,852 It was late. 890 00:38:54,713 --> 00:38:57,159 No answer. Nobody knew where she was. 891 00:38:59,484 --> 00:39:00,758 (SIGHS) A week later, 892 00:39:00,819 --> 00:39:03,732 I overheard her talking on the phone to someone named Joe. 893 00:39:05,523 --> 00:39:07,026 Her voice was 894 00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:08,730 different. 895 00:39:10,563 --> 00:39:13,942 I confronted her. At first she denied it. 896 00:39:16,368 --> 00:39:18,712 Then she told me the truth, 897 00:39:18,771 --> 00:39:20,614 she was with Joe Callister. 898 00:39:22,908 --> 00:39:25,047 She asked me to forgive her. 899 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:28,723 A week later, 900 00:39:29,816 --> 00:39:33,457 I found a hotel card key in her purse. 901 00:39:34,388 --> 00:39:36,994 She'd lied to me. She was still seeing him. 902 00:39:38,792 --> 00:39:40,567 I discovered Joe was withholding money, 903 00:39:40,627 --> 00:39:42,300 they were planning something. 904 00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:45,910 I told Maggie Callister. 905 00:39:47,033 --> 00:39:48,774 She was very angry. 906 00:39:51,438 --> 00:39:55,717 I gave her the box to give to Joe... 907 00:40:00,381 --> 00:40:01,826 You know the rest. 908 00:40:03,718 --> 00:40:05,356 People wish to inquire? 909 00:40:05,987 --> 00:40:07,125 No, Your Honor. 910 00:40:07,388 --> 00:40:12,098 Then, Mr. Grace, in accord with your agreement with the district attorney, 911 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640 you are hereby sentenced to six consecutive terms 912 00:40:14,695 --> 00:40:17,677 of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, 913 00:40:17,733 --> 00:40:19,007 to be served in a facility 914 00:40:19,067 --> 00:40:21,138 to be determined by the Department of Correction. 915 00:40:21,904 --> 00:40:23,076 (GAVEL STRIKES) 916 00:40:25,307 --> 00:40:28,117 Maggie Callister pleaded out, six life sentences. 917 00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:30,551 Lost her money, lost her husband, lost herself. 918 00:40:30,612 --> 00:40:31,613 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 919 00:40:33,382 --> 00:40:34,452 We have a problem. 920 00:40:34,683 --> 00:40:35,957 What now? 921 00:40:36,251 --> 00:40:38,232 In his plea allocution, Elias Grace said 922 00:40:38,288 --> 00:40:40,564 he called his wife from Seattle, she wasn't home. 923 00:40:40,690 --> 00:40:42,931 She was with Callister. She admitted it to him. 924 00:40:43,626 --> 00:40:45,697 Valerie Grace never left the city, 925 00:40:45,762 --> 00:40:48,208 and Joe Callister was snowed in in Buffalo that night. 926 00:40:48,465 --> 00:40:49,637 You know this how? 927 00:40:49,699 --> 00:40:51,701 Hotel charges on Callister's credit card. 928 00:40:51,768 --> 00:40:54,180 I even checked with the hotel and the airlines. 929 00:40:57,740 --> 00:40:59,742 It never happened, did it, you and Joe? 930 00:40:59,809 --> 00:41:01,346 You gaslighted your husband. 931 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,423 What did you do? Convince Callister to withhold funds 932 00:41:04,482 --> 00:41:06,223 to make your husband even crazier? 933 00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:12,300 Don't you think we can dig deep within ourselves 934 00:41:12,356 --> 00:41:14,461 and achieve the success for which we're destined 935 00:41:14,525 --> 00:41:16,334 by staying strong. 936 00:41:17,461 --> 00:41:18,997 Being patient? 937 00:41:19,396 --> 00:41:20,875 You were destined to lie? 938 00:41:21,799 --> 00:41:23,143 I was destined for this. 939 00:41:23,201 --> 00:41:25,147 The townhouse, the money, the power. 940 00:41:25,303 --> 00:41:27,749 Well, there's that, but that's not the point, is it? 941 00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:29,379 I don't know what the point is, lady, 942 00:41:29,441 --> 00:41:31,011 but you're making my skin crawl. 943 00:41:31,343 --> 00:41:33,152 You wanted the power. Why? 944 00:41:34,413 --> 00:41:35,414 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 945 00:41:35,881 --> 00:41:37,417 Years ago when Elias hit me, 946 00:41:37,482 --> 00:41:39,894 he did it to let me know I did not have any power. 947 00:41:40,285 --> 00:41:42,287 You could've walked away from him at anytime. 948 00:41:42,687 --> 00:41:44,360 And walked away from this? 949 00:41:47,226 --> 00:41:49,832 I was determined never to be hurt again. 950 00:41:50,396 --> 00:41:51,739 By anyone. 951 00:41:52,932 --> 00:41:55,879 Six people died because of your determination. 952 00:41:57,503 --> 00:41:58,743 (SIGHS) 953 00:42:02,208 --> 00:42:04,518 My husband is a passionate man. 954 00:42:05,645 --> 00:42:07,921 His passions expressed themselves in many ways, 955 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:09,756 not all of the nice. 956 00:42:11,251 --> 00:42:13,322 He had endless needs. 957 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,063 What did he need? 958 00:42:15,489 --> 00:42:17,628 (SCOFFS) Everything. 959 00:42:17,858 --> 00:42:19,394 There was never enough, 960 00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:25,001 enough power, money, attention, women, enough control. 961 00:42:25,766 --> 00:42:28,269 Why did you speak up in his defense and let him live? 962 00:42:29,837 --> 00:42:34,583 So he would have to sit very quietly 963 00:42:34,642 --> 00:42:38,488 for a very, very long time, 964 00:42:39,647 --> 00:42:42,093 and know that now I had it all. 965 00:42:44,452 --> 00:42:48,423 I wanted him to know that, for him, 966 00:42:48,489 --> 00:42:50,969 there wasn't going to be any more. 967 00:42:58,634 --> 00:43:00,671 There has got to be something we can do. 968 00:43:00,736 --> 00:43:02,579 We can't prove she meant for anyone to die. 969 00:43:02,638 --> 00:43:04,140 We can't touch her. 970 00:43:05,741 --> 00:43:08,483 Elias Grace conned millions of dollars out of these people 971 00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:10,854 and he turned out to be the biggest sucker of them all. 75179

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