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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:13,665 [dramatic instrumental music] 2 00:00:37,211 --> 00:00:39,343 - David Bowie has an announcement to make. 3 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:42,085 Let's now go over live by satellite 4 00:00:42,129 --> 00:00:45,828 to beautiful downtown Burbank in Los Angeles. 5 00:00:45,871 --> 00:00:46,655 It's nice to see you, David. 6 00:00:46,698 --> 00:00:47,786 You look well. 7 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:50,224 What color is your hair? 8 00:00:50,267 --> 00:00:51,877 - Which bit? 9 00:00:51,921 --> 00:00:55,185 - The center bit at the top above where your nose would be. 10 00:00:55,229 --> 00:00:57,883 - Well, what color is it look? 11 00:00:57,927 --> 00:00:59,189 - [Russell] Well it looks a bit something out of 12 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:01,800 the end of Straw Dogs. 13 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:03,367 - Something out of the end of Straw Dogs. 14 00:01:03,411 --> 00:01:04,325 - You've got an announcement to make 15 00:01:04,368 --> 00:01:05,717 to us all, David, haven't you? 16 00:01:05,761 --> 00:01:08,242 You are changing your plans for the future, 17 00:01:08,285 --> 00:01:11,680 and you've got something up your sleeve for 1976? 18 00:01:11,723 --> 00:01:12,507 - Yes. 19 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:14,465 I'm touring, 20 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:19,470 but I'm coming back to England in May 21 00:01:19,514 --> 00:01:20,602 to play shows 22 00:01:23,387 --> 00:01:26,912 and look at you and look at England 23 00:01:26,956 --> 00:01:29,132 and be there, be English. 24 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:30,220 - Again? 25 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:34,355 - Well as always, but English in England. 26 00:01:34,398 --> 00:01:35,921 - What's brought you back? 27 00:01:35,965 --> 00:01:37,358 Are you short of money or are you short 28 00:01:37,401 --> 00:01:40,143 of the feeding of live audience bit? 29 00:01:40,187 --> 00:01:45,148 - I'm short of England more than anything else. 30 00:01:45,192 --> 00:01:46,758 - [Russell] What, why? 31 00:01:46,802 --> 00:01:48,456 I mean you do know that the England you left two years ago 32 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:53,025 is not the England you are going to come back to. 33 00:01:53,069 --> 00:01:55,724 - Yeah, well this Thursday is nothing like last Thursday, 34 00:01:55,767 --> 00:01:57,073 but it's just as important. 35 00:01:57,117 --> 00:02:00,990 I'd miss it if it wasn't after Wednesday. 36 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:03,732 - You know that the pop scene at this end, 37 00:02:03,775 --> 00:02:05,821 the pop world has changed somewhat since you left? 38 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:06,822 - No. 39 00:02:06,865 --> 00:02:08,171 No. 40 00:02:08,215 --> 00:02:09,999 - Have you heard of the Bay City Rollers? 41 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:11,479 - Yes. 42 00:02:11,522 --> 00:02:13,263 - Well, you know that they are appealing to a kind of 43 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:17,311 large, mass-hysterical audience of young people 44 00:02:17,354 --> 00:02:19,791 who wave a lot of stuff around? 45 00:02:19,835 --> 00:02:21,619 Now I wonder what kind of audience 46 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:24,840 you are going to come back to face? 47 00:02:24,883 --> 00:02:26,407 - I don't know, what do you think? 48 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:30,193 - You may have to create a whole new scene for yourself. 49 00:02:30,237 --> 00:02:31,063 - No. 50 00:02:37,113 --> 00:02:40,247 Can't qualify that, I'll just come back and play my songs. 51 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,032 [upbeat music] 52 00:02:44,164 --> 00:02:46,383 - [Voiceover] One, two, three, - Yeah! 53 00:02:46,427 --> 00:02:48,733 [rock music] 54 00:02:55,218 --> 00:02:57,264 - [Voiceover] Few musicians have pushed the boundaries 55 00:02:57,307 --> 00:03:00,354 quite as spectacularly as David Bowie. 56 00:03:04,575 --> 00:03:07,056 During a career spanning half a century, 57 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:10,015 he was an innovator unlike any other. 58 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:17,371 [upbeat guitar music] 59 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:25,335 - I've been doing this for a whole century. 60 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:28,033 And I'm really very comfortable doing it. 61 00:03:28,077 --> 00:03:29,339 It feels, 62 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:31,820 it's very fulfilling. 63 00:03:31,863 --> 00:03:34,301 - [Voiceover] Pop star, composer, showman, 64 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:36,041 actor, producer, 65 00:03:36,085 --> 00:03:40,263 David Bowie symbolized versatility like few musicians could. 66 00:03:41,525 --> 00:03:44,006 The constant evolution of his style, sound, 67 00:03:44,049 --> 00:03:47,401 and artistic persona had a colossal influence 68 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:48,924 on popular culture. 69 00:03:49,881 --> 00:03:52,101 - David, hi, nice to meet you. 70 00:03:52,144 --> 00:03:54,103 - Nice to meet you. 71 00:03:54,146 --> 00:03:56,584 How very, very good to be here tonight. 72 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:58,281 I can't quite believe how much rubbish 73 00:03:58,325 --> 00:04:00,370 I've written in my life. [chuckles] 74 00:04:00,414 --> 00:04:01,893 'Cause you know when you go through all the tapes, 75 00:04:01,937 --> 00:04:05,114 you find all the things you never wanted to release. 76 00:04:05,157 --> 00:04:06,463 And you kind of find out, 77 00:04:06,507 --> 00:04:08,770 it becomes very apparent why. 78 00:04:10,424 --> 00:04:12,295 But, some of it's just too funny, 79 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:14,863 so I have to put it out. 80 00:04:14,906 --> 00:04:18,562 - [Voiceover] He brought a theatricality to the pop world 81 00:04:18,606 --> 00:04:21,739 which gave him a very strong image. 82 00:04:21,783 --> 00:04:24,438 He thought very theatrically, 83 00:04:24,481 --> 00:04:27,267 and he thought about presentation. 84 00:04:32,446 --> 00:04:34,186 - It just won't stop. 85 00:04:36,145 --> 00:04:40,149 My personal need to entertain has changed a lot. 86 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:43,674 I think when I was young, 87 00:04:43,718 --> 00:04:47,330 I was about creating theatricality, 88 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:49,419 and creating a more artificial 89 00:04:49,463 --> 00:04:52,379 kind of parallel reality onstage. 90 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:54,685 And as I've gotten older, 91 00:04:54,729 --> 00:04:56,687 especially over the last five or six years, 92 00:04:56,731 --> 00:04:58,472 I've really fallen into the comfort 93 00:04:58,515 --> 00:05:00,996 of actually just interpreting the songs. 94 00:05:01,039 --> 00:05:03,172 [upbeat instrumental music] 95 00:05:03,215 --> 00:05:06,871 [cheers and applause] 96 00:05:06,915 --> 00:05:08,438 - [Voiceover] If you want to cause a stir, 97 00:05:08,482 --> 00:05:11,485 then wear a dress at a press conference in Texas 98 00:05:11,528 --> 00:05:13,617 which is what David did. 99 00:05:13,661 --> 00:05:14,879 - [Voiceover] He looked weird. 100 00:05:14,923 --> 00:05:17,360 Everything about him was right to be a star, 101 00:05:17,404 --> 00:05:19,536 against all odds in a way. 102 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:21,277 - As far as style is concerned, 103 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:24,759 I don't really think that I want to have a style. 104 00:05:24,802 --> 00:05:28,415 Sort of, "Oh yeah, that's David Bowie's sound. 105 00:05:28,458 --> 00:05:30,634 I'd much prefer to be sort of a free agent, 106 00:05:30,678 --> 00:05:33,028 and move from one thing to another 107 00:05:33,071 --> 00:05:35,204 as my enthusiams take me. 108 00:05:37,902 --> 00:05:38,773 - [Voiceover] When you were thinking 109 00:05:38,816 --> 00:05:40,165 about what to wear on this tour, 110 00:05:40,209 --> 00:05:41,515 did you think of what it would look like 111 00:05:41,558 --> 00:05:44,039 translated onto thousands of fans? 112 00:05:44,082 --> 00:05:47,259 - I just wanted something very simple, simple outline. 113 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:48,260 - [Voiceover] Yeah? 114 00:05:48,304 --> 00:05:49,392 - So, what we're wearing tonight. 115 00:05:49,436 --> 00:05:50,915 [laughter] 116 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,917 - [Voiceover] The landscape of fashion has changed, 117 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:57,182 but it's changed because of people like David Bowie. 118 00:05:58,793 --> 00:06:00,621 - [Voiceover] That concept of androgyny, 119 00:06:00,664 --> 00:06:04,799 and the science-fiction look, and the colors, the dyed hair. 120 00:06:04,842 --> 00:06:07,758 This was all red meat to designers. 121 00:06:07,802 --> 00:06:11,719 Clearly, David was a genius in that area as well. 122 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:18,769 - Now, when you come back to England, 123 00:06:18,813 --> 00:06:20,423 you're not presumably coming back 124 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:24,122 with the glamour and glittery Ziggy Stardust thing, are you? 125 00:06:24,166 --> 00:06:25,428 - Uh-huh. 126 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:27,517 - [Russell] Are you coming back as that? 127 00:06:27,561 --> 00:06:29,476 - Well, I don't know yet. 128 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:31,695 I haven't even worked on it. 129 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,656 I think it'll probably. 130 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:38,441 I'll be a lot more spontaneous. 131 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:41,052 - [Russell] You haven't planned your wardrobe? 132 00:06:41,096 --> 00:06:43,272 You haven't planned a figure? 133 00:06:43,315 --> 00:06:46,971 You haven't planned an image, whatever that may mean? 134 00:06:47,015 --> 00:06:49,409 - I think the image I may adopt 135 00:06:49,452 --> 00:06:50,453 may well be me. 136 00:06:53,238 --> 00:06:56,503 I'm sort of inventing me at the moment. 137 00:06:58,635 --> 00:07:01,029 - [Russell] You mean reinventing you? 138 00:07:01,072 --> 00:07:02,987 - Yeah, self-invented. 139 00:07:03,031 --> 00:07:05,468 - [Russell] [laughs] From the waist upwards? 140 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:07,514 - Yes, jolly uncomfortable. 141 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:09,080 - What you're going to wear? 142 00:07:09,124 --> 00:07:10,778 Are you going to wear a little suit, a straight suit or-- 143 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:13,607 - I know what songs I'm going to sing 144 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:16,436 which is the most important thing. 145 00:07:20,048 --> 00:07:22,877 - [Voiceover] David Bowie didn't just entertain. 146 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,140 He intrigued and provoked. 147 00:07:26,141 --> 00:07:28,622 After 50 years in the spotlight, 148 00:07:28,665 --> 00:07:30,580 the legendary musician somehow managed 149 00:07:30,624 --> 00:07:33,104 to retain a sense of mystery. 150 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:35,933 - I never really thought that I could do it, 151 00:07:35,977 --> 00:07:38,806 but in a way, my band egged me on 152 00:07:38,849 --> 00:07:40,851 to kind of be like this. 153 00:07:42,374 --> 00:07:43,680 And so, it's been less and less theater, 154 00:07:43,724 --> 00:07:46,640 more and more band and sing, sing, sing. 155 00:07:46,683 --> 00:07:49,251 - [Voiceover] Along with The Beatles and Elvis Presley, 156 00:07:49,294 --> 00:07:52,080 Bowie obliterated musical boundaries 157 00:07:52,123 --> 00:07:55,257 and defined what pop music should be. 158 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:57,694 - Testing, we're back to rock and roll. 159 00:07:57,738 --> 00:07:59,957 One, two, three, four, one, two. 160 00:08:00,001 --> 00:08:01,655 - [Voiceover] We're talking about one 161 00:08:01,698 --> 00:08:04,832 of the most influential 20th-century icons of all. 162 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:07,661 - Don't forget to tip your waitresses. 163 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:09,445 - [Voiceover] He left a permanent mark 164 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,403 on more than one generation. 165 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,188 - People I've talked to about you here 166 00:08:13,231 --> 00:08:15,059 say you're very personal person, 167 00:08:15,103 --> 00:08:16,234 if you know what I mean? 168 00:08:16,278 --> 00:08:17,453 - People who go out with me? 169 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:18,759 - No, to work with you. 170 00:08:18,802 --> 00:08:21,022 - I thought you said people who go out with me. 171 00:08:21,065 --> 00:08:25,287 - You're a very, not secretive, but personal, 172 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:26,549 keep things to yourself. 173 00:08:26,593 --> 00:08:27,637 - Quiet, yes. 174 00:08:29,291 --> 00:08:31,902 - Do you think you're shy? 175 00:08:31,946 --> 00:08:33,338 - No. 176 00:08:33,382 --> 00:08:34,601 No, I'm not really shy. 177 00:08:34,644 --> 00:08:36,080 I'm just a bit quiet. 178 00:08:36,124 --> 00:08:37,647 - Do you think if you didn't keep things to yourself, 179 00:08:37,691 --> 00:08:42,565 people wouldn't be surprised at what you did next? 180 00:08:42,609 --> 00:08:43,740 - I never really thought about that. 181 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:45,133 I'll let you know after the show. 182 00:08:45,176 --> 00:08:45,960 - OK. 183 00:08:46,003 --> 00:08:48,005 - I have to do a show. 184 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:49,659 - [Voiceover] I think he got to where he wanted to be 185 00:08:49,703 --> 00:08:52,314 which was a kind of Lennon plateau, 186 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:54,577 and it doesn't get any higher than that. 187 00:08:54,621 --> 00:08:57,319 - [Voiceover] I don't believe that there've been really 188 00:08:57,362 --> 00:09:00,801 any major artists that have had the creative portfolio 189 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:02,672 that David had. 190 00:09:02,716 --> 00:09:06,328 - [Voiceover] Quite rightly, you would say that The Beatles 191 00:09:06,371 --> 00:09:08,591 affected the way young people thought. 192 00:09:08,635 --> 00:09:10,724 And I think the same with Bowie. 193 00:09:10,767 --> 00:09:12,813 - [Voiceover] Here is one of the people who made 194 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:17,600 the greatest difference in our world in our lifetime. 195 00:09:17,644 --> 00:09:21,430 Sounds like a mighty big claim, but it's true. 196 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:31,962 - [Voiceover] It took years of work for David Robert Jones 197 00:09:32,006 --> 00:09:36,227 to emerge as one of the more influential figures in music. 198 00:09:39,448 --> 00:09:42,582 Growing up in the austerity of post-war Britain, 199 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:45,672 he came of age in the swinging '60s. 200 00:09:45,715 --> 00:09:49,632 He was born in the Brixton suburbs of London in 1947 201 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:52,679 to mother Margaret and Bernardo's charity worker, 202 00:09:52,722 --> 00:09:54,724 Haywood John Jones. 203 00:09:57,597 --> 00:09:59,990 - David invited me down to his parent's basement. 204 00:10:00,034 --> 00:10:02,689 There I was at 14 with this kind of man 205 00:10:02,732 --> 00:10:05,300 from another planet, as far as I was concerned. 206 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:06,780 It sounds silly now, but I'd never been 207 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:08,782 to a working class house. 208 00:10:08,825 --> 00:10:10,827 I was in culture shock, 209 00:10:10,871 --> 00:10:13,221 but that was my own limited upbringing. 210 00:10:13,264 --> 00:10:15,745 His house which was tiny, 211 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:18,835 and the two main seats of the parents 212 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,143 who were there both facing the television. 213 00:10:22,186 --> 00:10:26,669 And I remember the mother made us some tuna fish sandwiches, 214 00:10:26,713 --> 00:10:28,889 but the parents didn't speak. 215 00:10:28,932 --> 00:10:31,195 I'd never been into such a cold house. 216 00:10:31,239 --> 00:10:32,501 This is what shocked me. 217 00:10:32,544 --> 00:10:34,546 I'd never visited a house where people 218 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:38,638 didn't laugh and make merry and be joyous 219 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:40,422 because it was just, ugh. 220 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:41,771 It was like a walking around 221 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:45,557 with cement blocks on your shoulders. 222 00:10:45,601 --> 00:10:49,126 - I loved his dad, it was sort of pretty bourgeois. 223 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:50,737 People say he was working-class, 224 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:52,042 but I don't think so. 225 00:10:52,086 --> 00:10:53,783 It didn't struck that way to me. 226 00:10:53,827 --> 00:10:56,046 - David said to me, "Then, I'll never forget this." 227 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:58,701 He said, "Whatever it takes, I want to get out 228 00:10:58,745 --> 00:10:59,833 "of this place. 229 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:02,792 "I never ever want to grow up here." 230 00:11:10,931 --> 00:11:13,716 [upbeat instrumental music] 231 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,849 - [Voiceover] David was introduced to rock and roll 232 00:11:15,892 --> 00:11:17,372 at an early age through 233 00:11:17,415 --> 00:11:20,636 his elder brother Terry's record collection. 234 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,899 The recurring theme of mental instability 235 00:11:22,943 --> 00:11:25,859 in Bowie's early work connects to Terry 236 00:11:25,902 --> 00:11:28,905 who was institutionalized with schizophrenia 237 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:31,560 and committed suicide in 1985. 238 00:11:31,603 --> 00:11:35,390 [dramatic instrumental music] 239 00:11:36,783 --> 00:11:39,350 - He did go and see his brother in the mental hospital. 240 00:11:39,394 --> 00:11:40,917 I didn't realize the enormity 241 00:11:40,961 --> 00:11:44,051 of the impact on the family actually. 242 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:46,357 And after that, he never mentioned his brother. 243 00:11:46,401 --> 00:11:47,837 - Well, I never met the brother 'cause 244 00:11:47,881 --> 00:11:49,883 he was institutionalized then, 245 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:52,233 but I did meet his mum, 246 00:11:52,276 --> 00:11:55,192 and she was just a very average lady. 247 00:11:55,236 --> 00:11:58,195 - I feel not quite sorry for the mother. 248 00:11:58,239 --> 00:12:00,937 - She was very stiff, very starchy. 249 00:12:00,981 --> 00:12:04,462 You didn't have no chance of getting to know her properly. 250 00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:05,942 She was very reserved. 251 00:12:05,986 --> 00:12:08,597 - Quite often, later on, several years later, 252 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,077 the mother would be ringing up 253 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,209 while David was starting to get more and more famous 254 00:12:12,253 --> 00:12:14,646 and he would never, often didn't want to speak to her. 255 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:18,041 So, Angie, of course, being the perfect hostess, 256 00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:20,130 would be the buffer to say, "Oh, he's busy," 257 00:12:20,174 --> 00:12:21,784 or "can't make it". 258 00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:25,527 So, I don't know that he was that close with his parents. 259 00:12:29,052 --> 00:12:30,706 - [Voiceover] By the time he was six, 260 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:32,839 the Jones family had moved to the suburban streets 261 00:12:32,882 --> 00:12:34,623 of Bromley in Kent. 262 00:12:35,842 --> 00:12:38,279 David attended Burnt Ash Primary School, 263 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:42,544 and showed aptitude in singing and playing the recorder. 264 00:12:43,806 --> 00:12:46,896 [speaker drowned out by background noise] 265 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:49,420 - You're right, the most famous ex-pupil of the school. 266 00:12:49,464 --> 00:12:53,947 20, 30 years ago, he was thought of as quite radical. 267 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:57,080 - David Bowie appeared in the film Labyrinth. 268 00:12:57,124 --> 00:13:00,344 - Personally, I didn't understand him. 269 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:08,962 - [Voiceover] David Jones was recognized at school 270 00:13:09,005 --> 00:13:11,834 as much for his vividly artistic dance 271 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:16,404 as he was for his vocals and flair for instruments. 272 00:13:16,447 --> 00:13:18,754 - [Dana] I don't recall anyone having lessons. 273 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,843 He just listened to your records, 274 00:13:20,887 --> 00:13:23,019 if he could get any from America, 275 00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:26,849 and played along them or sang along with them. 276 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:34,074 - It was rather disturbing because when you're young, 277 00:13:34,117 --> 00:13:37,860 you think so much is important, including oneself. 278 00:13:37,904 --> 00:13:39,949 [laughs] But, as you get older, 279 00:13:39,993 --> 00:13:42,691 I think you find less and less is important 280 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:46,042 apart from some very fundamental things. 281 00:13:46,086 --> 00:13:49,002 One of them being a love for one's fellow man, 282 00:13:49,045 --> 00:13:51,700 and a care for their survival, 283 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,052 and a care for one's immediate family, 284 00:13:56,096 --> 00:13:58,359 then friends, and then wider like a circle 285 00:13:58,402 --> 00:14:00,187 like ripples in water. 286 00:14:04,234 --> 00:14:06,671 - [Voiceover] After failing his 11 plus exams, 287 00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:09,587 David Jones attended Bromley Technical College 288 00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:13,374 where he studied art, music and design. 289 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:16,159 He displayed an early interest in aliens, 290 00:14:16,203 --> 00:14:19,684 creating a UFO magazine, and would later claim 291 00:14:19,728 --> 00:14:23,036 to have seen battalions of alien craft. 292 00:14:25,038 --> 00:14:27,867 - Angie and I, I think we were in England, 293 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:30,217 and Bowie rings up from America saying 294 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:33,046 he's just spoken to somebody who's been to Roswell, 295 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,004 the place where the aliens landed. 296 00:14:35,048 --> 00:14:37,093 And he said, "I know that there's one there." 297 00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:39,008 And he rang especially to say, 298 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:41,097 "You know this is definitely it. 299 00:14:41,141 --> 00:14:42,751 "The alien has landed. 300 00:14:42,794 --> 00:14:47,060 "It's in cold storage in some government bunker somewhere." 301 00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:48,975 And he absolutely believed it, 302 00:14:49,018 --> 00:14:52,935 and so did we because he'd said he'd seen it. 303 00:14:57,026 --> 00:14:58,941 - [Voiceover] During David Jones' adolescence, 304 00:14:58,985 --> 00:15:02,858 there was one indelible incident in 1962 305 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:05,165 which would forever change his image. 306 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:09,734 [dramatic instrumental music] 307 00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:11,823 - [Voiceover] The incredible photogenic eyes were partly 308 00:15:11,867 --> 00:15:16,045 a result of his being punched by his friend, George. 309 00:15:17,742 --> 00:15:20,093 - It was an unintended damage 310 00:15:21,616 --> 00:15:25,011 that I did to his eye when I was 15. 311 00:15:25,054 --> 00:15:27,665 It was over a girl, and it was a silly thing. 312 00:15:27,709 --> 00:15:29,841 And he said afterwards, "I'm sorry. 313 00:15:29,885 --> 00:15:31,104 "I shouldn't have done it." 314 00:15:31,147 --> 00:15:32,975 But, it was just one of those stupid things 315 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:34,368 you do when you're a kid. 316 00:15:34,411 --> 00:15:36,979 And I didn't go around hitting people 317 00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:38,807 in the eye as a hobby. 318 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:41,375 It wasn't something I did. 319 00:15:41,418 --> 00:15:42,985 It was just once and that was it. 320 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:45,118 And I never ever wanted to. 321 00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:48,991 I always felt awful afterwards. 322 00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:52,995 You know, it's made him quite distinctive in the end. 323 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,257 Fortunately, he did say later 324 00:15:54,301 --> 00:15:56,172 that I did him a favor. 325 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:01,047 - It just changed the look of the eye. 326 00:16:01,090 --> 00:16:04,659 But, for fashion reasons, this is magnetic. 327 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:09,969 So bizarrely, he owed George for hitting him, 328 00:16:11,144 --> 00:16:15,061 but they remained friends and that's the important thing. 329 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:19,979 - [Voiceover] David Bowie spent the 1960s 330 00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:23,547 enduring a succession of false starts. 331 00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:27,508 He would later steer music into new areas of exploration, 332 00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:30,511 when despite becoming one of the most iconic musicians 333 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:34,080 of all time, he only performed because no one else 334 00:16:34,123 --> 00:16:35,864 would sing his songs. 335 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:42,001 โ™ช I, I will be king 336 00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:44,960 - I hate my singing voice. 337 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,093 I hate singing, really. 338 00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:49,051 It's not an enjoyment. 339 00:16:49,095 --> 00:16:51,010 Someone's got to do it. 340 00:16:52,794 --> 00:16:54,187 I like interpreting songs. 341 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:58,060 I guess that's what it is about the whole process. 342 00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:01,672 I like writing personally and foremostly. 343 00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:03,935 I would give my right arm, 344 00:17:05,850 --> 00:17:07,417 maybe not my right arm. 345 00:17:07,461 --> 00:17:10,072 I would give somebody's right arm 346 00:17:10,116 --> 00:17:12,553 if I could find somebody to sing one of my songs for me. 347 00:17:12,596 --> 00:17:13,945 I really would. 348 00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:16,905 - [Dana] I don't think singers hate 349 00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:17,775 their singing voice. 350 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:20,126 It's only false modesty. 351 00:17:20,169 --> 00:17:22,215 - [Mary] I don't think he had any ego at all 352 00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:24,565 until he got into the cocaine trip, 353 00:17:24,608 --> 00:17:26,349 which really did him in. 354 00:17:26,393 --> 00:17:29,048 - He didn't have a great voice. 355 00:17:29,091 --> 00:17:30,745 One of the things that attracted me to him, 356 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:32,268 he sang like Anthony Newley. 357 00:17:32,312 --> 00:17:35,837 - Well, I always thought that he sounded 358 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 very like Anthony Newley, and I never knew 359 00:17:38,883 --> 00:17:40,102 that he acknowledged that. 360 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:41,930 โ™ช Don't you realize we're living today 361 00:17:41,973 --> 00:17:44,150 โ™ช I'm happy to say 362 00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:47,066 โ™ช The good old bad old days 363 00:17:47,109 --> 00:17:48,415 - [Voiceover] Today, Anthony Newley is a bit 364 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:51,244 of a forgotten name, but he was massive 365 00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,115 when Bowie was growing up. 366 00:17:53,159 --> 00:17:56,553 Continually on television, he was a renaissance man. 367 00:17:56,597 --> 00:17:59,948 โ™ช Some people say they love for the old days 368 00:17:59,991 --> 00:18:03,038 โ™ช To take them way back when 369 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,909 - There's hugely strong connection. 370 00:18:04,953 --> 00:18:08,957 Anthony Newley was a massive inspiration 371 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,264 and influence over David in his early days. 372 00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:14,528 โ™ช You're either up or you're down โ™ช 373 00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:17,792 - [Dana] This was somebody that he did rate highly. 374 00:18:17,835 --> 00:18:20,316 - [Bob] Newley, in fact, was a great actor. 375 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,189 - [Dana] He looked up to him because we both came 376 00:18:23,232 --> 00:18:26,714 from the same era when the one cool television show 377 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:31,110 called something like My Old Life of Gurney Slade. 378 00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:34,156 Tony Newley was the star, and anyone who was anybody, 379 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,333 and cool and hip, watched this program. 380 00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:40,336 โ™ช Nevertheless, I guess we got to confess โ™ช 381 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:43,252 - If you check back to some of Anthony Newley's hits, 382 00:18:43,296 --> 00:18:45,863 and then compare that with the Laughing Gnome, 383 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:47,430 and you'll see an absolute direct line 384 00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:49,258 between the two. 385 00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:51,304 - The crossover that Anthony Newley made 386 00:18:51,347 --> 00:18:53,741 from the theatrical side into pop 387 00:18:53,784 --> 00:18:56,222 would have made him slightly more visible 388 00:18:56,265 --> 00:18:58,615 to artists like David Bowie. 389 00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:01,183 - [Bob] Anthony Newley was involved in musicals 390 00:19:01,227 --> 00:19:03,620 and the whole sort of dramatic thing 391 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:05,231 that he also represented. 392 00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:09,670 That was part of the Newley package, if you like, 393 00:19:09,713 --> 00:19:11,324 as far as David was concerned. 394 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:15,154 - I remember Tony Newley was doing something 395 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:16,938 in the Marquee Club. 396 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:19,332 It was something called Ready Steady Goes Live, 397 00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:20,637 and he was there. 398 00:19:20,681 --> 00:19:22,161 Bowie made quite sure that he was there too 399 00:19:22,204 --> 00:19:23,466 to listen to him. 400 00:19:28,471 --> 00:19:30,212 - [Voiceover] David Jones left school 401 00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,258 with one O-level in art. 402 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,435 The late '60s saw him working his apprenticeship 403 00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:38,307 as a musician and displaying early signs 404 00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:41,354 that he was pursuing an identity. 405 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:43,486 First with blues-influenced bands 406 00:19:43,530 --> 00:19:47,316 such as the Kon-rads, which he formed aged 15. 407 00:19:48,883 --> 00:19:51,233 - When we first met, we were about nine years old. 408 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:52,843 We became best friends. 409 00:19:52,887 --> 00:19:56,630 We stayed very close and formed the sort of bands together, 410 00:19:56,673 --> 00:19:59,415 and I decided the music scene wasn't for me, 411 00:19:59,459 --> 00:20:01,591 and I went back to finish art college, 412 00:20:01,635 --> 00:20:05,291 but I knew David was destined for bigger things 413 00:20:05,334 --> 00:20:07,423 'cause he was just extremely sharp. 414 00:20:07,467 --> 00:20:09,904 I never met anyone like him. 415 00:20:11,122 --> 00:20:12,428 - [Voiceover] After performing in a series 416 00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:15,344 of unremarkable bluesy folk acts, 417 00:20:15,388 --> 00:20:18,652 the aspiring artist went through several reinventions 418 00:20:18,695 --> 00:20:20,784 on route to Space Oddity. 419 00:20:22,569 --> 00:20:24,353 - It's obvious that he liked blues 420 00:20:24,397 --> 00:20:27,269 from the records he made with his early group, 421 00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:30,838 but nothing to suggest that he had anything 422 00:20:30,881 --> 00:20:33,014 really original to offer. 423 00:20:33,057 --> 00:20:35,016 - He saw himself as a folk singer, 424 00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:39,281 and he was patrolling the folk clubs looking for gigs. 425 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:43,459 But, I think he didn't fit it in to any category. 426 00:20:44,852 --> 00:20:46,549 - We did a gig very early on. 427 00:20:46,593 --> 00:20:48,377 It was a very small gig somewhere, 428 00:20:48,421 --> 00:20:50,510 before he dressed up as a girl. 429 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:53,382 And it could have been it was an early gig. 430 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:55,732 It could have been for whatever reason. 431 00:20:55,776 --> 00:20:59,997 I just felt he was a bit lost and a bit tentative. 432 00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:04,350 Didn't know what to with his arm. 433 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:08,571 - He was much better performing in a role. 434 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:11,270 I always felt that he looked much more comfortable 435 00:21:11,313 --> 00:21:14,838 when he had, I don't know, some outfitty thing. 436 00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:18,277 [upbeat rhythmic music] 437 00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:26,415 - At that time, I felt he needed these various persona 438 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:29,462 to give himself confidence onstage. 439 00:21:29,505 --> 00:21:31,333 - You can see why he said he didn't want 440 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:32,421 to go onstage being himself. 441 00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:33,335 He was quite reserved. 442 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,989 He didn't seem the type of bloke 443 00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:37,948 that would jump onstage and dress like Ziggy Stardust. 444 00:21:37,992 --> 00:21:39,994 - I really enjoy just performing songs 445 00:21:40,037 --> 00:21:42,518 and not having the commitment of having to be a character 446 00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:44,346 which has made it less of a strain 447 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,000 than it normally is. 448 00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,483 There's not so much artifice attached 449 00:21:50,526 --> 00:21:52,223 to when I'm doing these thing. 450 00:21:52,267 --> 00:21:56,140 I still like the idea of doing a theatrical thing, 451 00:21:56,184 --> 00:22:00,362 and it doesn't so preclude me maybe doing one in the future. 452 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:07,587 - It must have been 1963 or four. 453 00:22:07,630 --> 00:22:09,719 He came out onstage at the Marquee Club. 454 00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:11,808 It was David Jones and the King Bees, 455 00:22:11,852 --> 00:22:15,377 and he came out with his bright yellow lemon-colored hair 456 00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:17,423 which was really unusual in those days. 457 00:22:17,466 --> 00:22:21,557 Dressed in a slightly Sherwood Forest Robin Hood-look, 458 00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:25,126 as in knee-length suede boots with tassels. 459 00:22:26,649 --> 00:22:30,827 - This was reacting against a very monochrome background. 460 00:22:30,871 --> 00:22:33,352 The rock bands arriving were pretty, you know, 461 00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:35,397 still jeans and sometimes we'd get back 462 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:38,705 to the audience on long guitar solos and all of that. 463 00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:42,535 I don't think anybody had really given 464 00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:44,537 quite as much thought to the idea 465 00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:48,410 of presenting their music as David was now expressing. 466 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:49,542 - He was a showman. 467 00:22:49,585 --> 00:22:51,979 He knew how to impress people. 468 00:22:55,852 --> 00:22:57,854 - I was amazed at how good he was 469 00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:00,640 'cause I didn't realize how good a singer he was. 470 00:23:00,683 --> 00:23:03,425 And what presence he had onstage. 471 00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:07,298 - [Bob] There were no echoes 472 00:23:08,604 --> 00:23:10,650 of "Oh, maybe I shouldn't do that," and hesitancy. 473 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:12,303 He just went for it. 474 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:18,135 - After the whole show was over, 475 00:23:18,179 --> 00:23:19,528 he just comes up and says to me, 476 00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:22,618 "Can I come home with you tonight?" 477 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:23,880 And I said, "Yeah." 478 00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:27,536 We walked back to South Kent, 25 minutes walk, 479 00:23:27,580 --> 00:23:30,191 and he stayed the night on my top floor. 480 00:23:30,234 --> 00:23:33,847 In the morning, coming down at sort of breakfast time, 481 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:35,675 'cause I had to go off to school, 482 00:23:35,718 --> 00:23:37,590 I introduced him to my parents 483 00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:39,156 who were coming out of their bedroom. 484 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,289 And I said, my father told me afterwards, 485 00:23:41,332 --> 00:23:42,812 they actually thought it was a girl, 486 00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,510 that I'd just had a girlfriend to stay. 487 00:23:44,553 --> 00:23:47,121 But no, when I said, "This is David Jones," 488 00:23:47,164 --> 00:23:49,471 they went, quite surprised. 489 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:52,082 He used to, I think, attract far more attention than me 490 00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:54,345 'cause he used to sometimes come and pick me up from school. 491 00:23:54,389 --> 00:23:56,870 And the girls in my class reminded me the other day 492 00:23:56,913 --> 00:23:59,525 that they were all kind noses pressed to the window 493 00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:00,613 looking at him. 494 00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:02,963 Yeah, he was eye-catching. 495 00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:08,229 [gentle instrumental music] 496 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:10,884 - [Voiceover] Enrolling in Lindsay Kemp's 497 00:24:10,927 --> 00:24:13,582 London dance center, Bowie began to explore 498 00:24:13,626 --> 00:24:15,715 the world of mime. 499 00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:17,325 - What is the best thing you've done 500 00:24:17,368 --> 00:24:20,633 on any stage anywhere that still lives with you, 501 00:24:20,676 --> 00:24:22,548 that you measure, use as a measuring stick? 502 00:24:22,591 --> 00:24:24,724 - Best, that's very hard. 503 00:24:24,767 --> 00:24:26,377 One of the most exciting things I did 504 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:29,598 was work with old Lindsay, Lindsay Kemp, 505 00:24:29,642 --> 00:24:32,296 back in the, what would it be? 506 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,692 I can't remember which theater we did it in, but years ago. 507 00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:40,087 It was a combined sort of mixed media show. 508 00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:41,741 That was very good. 509 00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,525 - And it didn't have to be a big, glossy exciting thing. 510 00:24:43,569 --> 00:24:46,746 It was a small, but something important to you. 511 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:47,529 - Well, yes. 512 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:54,101 - David was very into sort of this whole Lindsay Kemp thing 513 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:56,582 at that moment, Marcel Marceau, white face, 514 00:24:56,625 --> 00:24:57,844 the miming. 515 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,281 - When he showed me a bit, he was very into 516 00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:01,543 all that mime stuff. 517 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:03,719 - Definitely, he learned a lot from Lindsay, 518 00:25:03,763 --> 00:25:06,766 but that was sort of a side thing. 519 00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:08,985 - He taught David stagecraft. 520 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:11,248 David learned mime from him, 521 00:25:11,292 --> 00:25:15,165 and he was very, very grateful to Lindsay 522 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:16,776 for what he learned. 523 00:25:16,819 --> 00:25:19,126 - Lindsay always said that he often did his shows on acid, 524 00:25:19,169 --> 00:25:20,475 which I thought was pretty good, 525 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,738 because it's quite hard to do shows on acid. 526 00:25:22,782 --> 00:25:26,263 - Lindsay was absolutely besotted with David. 527 00:25:26,307 --> 00:25:27,830 He was totally in love with him. 528 00:25:27,874 --> 00:25:29,397 - David had been exploring 529 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,573 that whole sort of visual presentation thing, 530 00:25:31,617 --> 00:25:34,315 and that whole thing about the face 531 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,361 and the eyes and the body movements. 532 00:25:38,798 --> 00:25:42,018 And that's what drew me into Feathers. 533 00:25:44,194 --> 00:25:45,631 - [Voiceover] Bowie toured with Lindsay Kemp 534 00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:49,112 for a year before leaving to form the band Feathers 535 00:25:49,156 --> 00:25:50,984 with Hermione Fatheringale, 536 00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:53,595 the girl who inspired Life on Mars. 537 00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,815 - [Laurence] The first time I saw David 538 00:25:55,858 --> 00:25:58,818 was at an underground psychedelic club 539 00:26:00,646 --> 00:26:03,083 in Convent Garden called Middle Earth. 540 00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:06,608 And he was there with his group Feathers, 541 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,305 and his girlfriend Hermione. 542 00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:09,611 It was sort of a mixed media group, 543 00:26:09,655 --> 00:26:11,178 as they were called, at the time. 544 00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:13,746 He wasn't doing much of the lead singing in Feathers. 545 00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:15,530 He was much more the mime artist 546 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,837 and the person who was expressing the music. 547 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,621 - [Laurence] I had thought he was magnetic. 548 00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:20,709 I really did. 549 00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:25,758 [upbeat instrumental music] 550 00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:30,545 - I rented this house 45 years ago, 551 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,635 and as one did, I put an ad in the paper 552 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:36,420 and Hermione Fatheringale rang, 553 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:39,423 and said she'd like to see the place. 554 00:26:39,467 --> 00:26:41,164 She said, "The trouble is there are two of us." 555 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:42,731 And I said, "That's fantastic." 556 00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:45,734 Anyway, she came and the boyfriend she had 557 00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:47,780 was David Bowie. 558 00:26:47,823 --> 00:26:49,303 David wasn't known then. 559 00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:50,478 He held back. 560 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,831 He didn't so much mingle with the rest of us. 561 00:26:55,875 --> 00:26:57,703 He used to borrow my clothes 562 00:26:57,746 --> 00:26:59,443 because I was in the fashion business. 563 00:26:59,487 --> 00:27:01,707 And anything that I had that was funky, 564 00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:03,709 he would borrow and wear. 565 00:27:11,978 --> 00:27:16,896 - [Dana] I would go with him to Carnaby Street in '64, '65. 566 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,462 He was a very trendy dresser. 567 00:27:18,506 --> 00:27:22,466 He always was in a uniform, or in a look. 568 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:26,688 He didn't slop out in a pair of ripped jeans and t-shirts. 569 00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:34,130 - Some years later, Hermione left David 570 00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:37,612 because she was doing small-time movies, 571 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:43,879 and she fell in love with one of the actors in the movie, 572 00:27:43,923 --> 00:27:44,837 and she left David. 573 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,230 And David was brokenhearted. 574 00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:49,058 - Well, he was in love with her, 575 00:27:49,102 --> 00:27:51,408 but he didn't treat her very well. 576 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:54,890 - David had a serious control over his heart 577 00:27:54,934 --> 00:27:56,370 for many, many years. 578 00:27:56,413 --> 00:28:00,983 His heart lay with performing, songwriting and music. 579 00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:02,855 And if he thought his heart was broken, 580 00:28:02,898 --> 00:28:04,813 it was only for a minute in time. 581 00:28:04,857 --> 00:28:06,859 - He was a rascal, and of course, 582 00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:10,558 the neighbors objected to us being so wild. 583 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:14,605 So, I didn't want to leave the house, 584 00:28:16,042 --> 00:28:17,870 but David had to go. 585 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:28,968 - [Voiceover] Bowie considered leaving music altogether. 586 00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:32,972 In 1967, he retreated to a Buddhist monastery in Scotland. 587 00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:36,845 - I think a lot of youth find it very hard 588 00:28:36,889 --> 00:28:39,152 to find exactly where it is that they're supposed 589 00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:43,373 to fit in to this rather new terrifying world. 590 00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,854 I think I would feel very much like that. 591 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:48,639 I think maybe I would shrink back into 592 00:28:48,683 --> 00:28:51,164 wanting to find a more spiritual kind of life. 593 00:28:51,207 --> 00:28:53,514 I think maybe I would maybe 594 00:28:54,907 --> 00:28:57,387 backpack through the world and get to endure 595 00:28:57,431 --> 00:28:59,825 and do all those things that my generation 596 00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:01,957 tended to do in the '60s. 597 00:29:05,265 --> 00:29:06,962 It would be a very hard choice, 598 00:29:07,006 --> 00:29:09,922 but mind you, I would, yes, I would become a monk, 599 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:13,142 but a monk who played an awful lot of guitar. 600 00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:17,407 - He went to Samye Ling Tibetan Center in Dumfries Shire 601 00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:19,845 and stayed there for about a month, 602 00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:23,283 and did some very intensive meditation practice. 603 00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:25,459 And as a result of that, 604 00:29:27,548 --> 00:29:31,770 I think at one stage, he did consider becoming a monk. 605 00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,903 - [David] I'm still sort of wondering whether I should be, 606 00:29:34,947 --> 00:29:36,905 if I've found God as a Buddhist or 607 00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:39,734 [speaker muffled] 608 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:44,043 - He told me that he never really lost the music, 609 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:47,046 and that it was with him all the time, 610 00:29:47,089 --> 00:29:49,875 on the cushion in the dining room, 611 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:52,225 out walking in the hills. 612 00:29:52,268 --> 00:29:55,489 It was just buzzing through his head. 613 00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:58,274 And he realized, I think eventually, 614 00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:01,060 that he was not being true to himself 615 00:30:01,103 --> 00:30:03,105 and so he packed up and went back 616 00:30:03,149 --> 00:30:05,586 to London and show business. 617 00:30:13,724 --> 00:30:15,944 - [Voiceover] David Bowie began 1969 618 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:18,381 as far from his pop ambitions as he'd been 619 00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:19,905 throughout the '60s. 620 00:30:19,948 --> 00:30:23,822 [lively instrumental music] 621 00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:31,699 - Once, when we were both a bit broke, 622 00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:33,657 we both went to audition for Hair. 623 00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:35,094 You know, the musical where everyone in there 624 00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:36,138 takes their clothes off. 625 00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:40,229 We both got turned down. [laughs] 626 00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:46,540 - He had a job in a copying office in London, 627 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:48,759 a place called Legastat. 628 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,936 But, he only did it about once a fortnight. 629 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:52,328 He hated it. 630 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:54,200 And he'd have the old gig here and there, 631 00:30:54,243 --> 00:30:56,419 but, no, he was broke. 632 00:30:56,463 --> 00:30:58,595 I supported him for quite some time. 633 00:30:58,639 --> 00:31:01,990 - Everything that he had, he put to good use, 634 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:05,037 and occasionally, if it meant being 635 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,039 a bit slotty occasionally, or whatever, 636 00:31:07,082 --> 00:31:08,997 you did what you had to do in order 637 00:31:09,041 --> 00:31:11,913 to get to the next level in the business. 638 00:31:11,957 --> 00:31:15,395 - [Mary] He was entirely, totally and completely focused. 639 00:31:15,438 --> 00:31:17,614 - I think when you are driven, 640 00:31:17,658 --> 00:31:21,314 when you've really got something to say, 641 00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:25,361 then inevitably you're going to make sure 642 00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:27,102 that you achieve that, 643 00:31:27,146 --> 00:31:28,625 and that definitely applied to David. 644 00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:31,063 - He was absolutely dedicated to his career. 645 00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,935 Music was the focus of his life. 646 00:31:33,979 --> 00:31:36,111 During the time when he was sitting around 647 00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:37,939 the flat not doing very much, 648 00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:40,115 he was constantly composing. 649 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:41,812 He was never idle. 650 00:31:41,856 --> 00:31:43,292 - Are you being absolutely accurate and honest 651 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:45,773 when you say you're a disciplined person? 652 00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:47,122 - Oh, yes. 653 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:48,994 - [Russell] You impose a discipline 654 00:31:49,037 --> 00:31:51,605 on your own music writing and your own work? 655 00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:53,172 You don't just get up when you? 656 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,434 You know what I'm saying to you? 657 00:31:54,477 --> 00:31:56,349 A lot of people in your position, 658 00:31:56,392 --> 00:31:59,743 they have a kind of repetition. 659 00:31:59,787 --> 00:32:02,485 - Discipline doesn't mean that you make sure 660 00:32:02,529 --> 00:32:05,749 that you have breakfast at 8:00 in the morning 661 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:08,100 and you're out of the house at half past 8:00. 662 00:32:08,143 --> 00:32:11,146 Discipline is if you conceive something, 663 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:16,108 then you decide whether or not it's worth 664 00:32:16,151 --> 00:32:17,457 following through. 665 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,111 And if it's worth following through, 666 00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:20,590 then you follow it through to its logical conclusion, 667 00:32:20,634 --> 00:32:23,506 and do it to the best of your ability. 668 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:25,117 That's the discipline. 669 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,161 Yes? 670 00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:29,295 Whether there are areas in it 671 00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:30,992 that are not to one's liking, 672 00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:32,689 you have to go right the way through it and do it, 673 00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:34,387 and that's what I do. 674 00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:46,616 - [Voiceover] By the spring of 1969, 675 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:49,445 Bowie was living with journalist Mary Finnigan 676 00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:52,274 in the London suburb of Beckenham. 677 00:32:52,318 --> 00:32:55,060 - He was living in my apartment as my lodger, 678 00:32:55,103 --> 00:32:56,539 but it was never a sort of 679 00:32:56,583 --> 00:33:00,804 conventional landlady/lodger relationship. 680 00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:04,112 He was extremely messy. 681 00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:05,592 He never did anything around the house, 682 00:33:05,635 --> 00:33:08,160 unless it suited his purpose. 683 00:33:09,726 --> 00:33:12,729 He staged a very elegant seduction for me 684 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,862 by cooking me a very nice dinner 685 00:33:14,905 --> 00:33:17,908 when I came home from a shift at the Sunday Times. 686 00:33:17,952 --> 00:33:22,217 And then, he made a sort of nest of cushions 687 00:33:22,261 --> 00:33:24,785 in his room, and he put big speakers 688 00:33:24,828 --> 00:33:26,656 on either side of my ears, 689 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,920 and then played me his favorite music. 690 00:33:35,926 --> 00:33:38,103 I was pretty broke, so was he, 691 00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:39,452 and absolutely penniless. 692 00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:42,368 So then, our lifestyle was unsustainable, 693 00:33:42,411 --> 00:33:44,935 so he had the idea to start a folk club. 694 00:33:44,979 --> 00:33:48,113 And we found a location in a pub in Beckenham, 695 00:33:48,156 --> 00:33:50,898 and they gave us the back room. 696 00:33:52,421 --> 00:33:56,208 And in the first week, there were only about 25 people. 697 00:33:56,251 --> 00:33:58,688 Second week, there were 90, 698 00:33:58,732 --> 00:34:02,649 and after that, it absolutely jam-packed 699 00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:04,781 with never less than 120. 700 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,395 - He built an arts laboratory. 701 00:34:09,438 --> 00:34:11,310 David based the whole idea of it 702 00:34:11,353 --> 00:34:15,053 on the existing arts laboratory on Drury Lane. 703 00:34:16,358 --> 00:34:21,059 - He took the psychedelic environment ambiance 704 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:24,845 out of central London and set it up in the suburbs. 705 00:34:24,888 --> 00:34:28,109 And I think it was probably one of the first 706 00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:30,590 in the suburban environment. 707 00:34:35,029 --> 00:34:37,075 - [Bob] London was so vibrant in those days. 708 00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:41,296 Everything was just exploding into this burst of color. 709 00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:47,085 - [Mary] It is often said that how the fortunate people 710 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:51,132 who were young in the '60s had the best sex, 711 00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:54,135 the best drugs and the best music. 712 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:58,052 - You've got new magazines, new newspapers, 713 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,272 new venues, new places to go, 714 00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:03,579 a new order, this counterculture, as it was called, 715 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,365 was the reality, and David loved it. 716 00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:08,280 - It was an arts laboratory. 717 00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:11,979 It was art of any form or variety. 718 00:35:12,022 --> 00:35:15,591 He compared it and he performed his own set, 719 00:35:17,593 --> 00:35:21,380 and he got the confidence as a performer 720 00:35:21,423 --> 00:35:23,382 week after week after week. 721 00:35:23,425 --> 00:35:27,168 It was the bedrock of his rise to stardom, 722 00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:30,084 his ascent to the stratosphere. 723 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:33,348 It was a brief slice of social history 724 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,786 which was really quite remarkable, 725 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:39,920 and I'm glad that I was part of that. 726 00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:46,274 - I thoroughly enjoy looking at myself 727 00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:49,799 and looking at the environment that I'm in 728 00:35:49,843 --> 00:35:54,456 at any time with the eyes of someone who's not involved 729 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,329 in any particular line of the arts. 730 00:35:57,372 --> 00:36:02,072 So, it comes out as a sort of eclectic manifestation. 731 00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:04,292 I'm still a fan of everything, 732 00:36:04,336 --> 00:36:06,729 fan of films, fan of records, 733 00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:09,819 fan of rock bands and a fan of yours. 734 00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:20,874 - [Voiceover] As one of the most 735 00:36:20,917 --> 00:36:23,616 consistently great British songwriters of all time, 736 00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:26,575 David Bowie's skills as a lyrical storyteller 737 00:36:26,619 --> 00:36:28,186 remain unparalleled. 738 00:36:32,494 --> 00:36:35,193 - I don't have a problem writing. 739 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:38,152 I do write a lot over the course of a year. 740 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:41,982 It's never really been hard for me to do that. 741 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:46,465 It wasn't painful in any way. 742 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:51,774 The only painful albums I've had, I think, 743 00:36:51,818 --> 00:36:54,255 were way back in the '70s. 744 00:36:54,299 --> 00:36:56,823 There are a couple of instances 745 00:36:56,866 --> 00:36:59,521 where it was really hard for me to write 746 00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:03,133 because I felt I was delivering great chunks 747 00:37:03,177 --> 00:37:05,223 of my soul out there. 748 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:08,313 But, that was a state of mind, I guess. 749 00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:14,319 - [Bob] The other thing in the sort of mix 750 00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:17,452 of everything that sometimes gets neglected 751 00:37:17,496 --> 00:37:20,977 is David's brilliance as a songwriter. 752 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:23,850 - David didn't write love songs. 753 00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:26,374 A time when everybody was writing love songs, 754 00:37:26,418 --> 00:37:29,682 that's what you did, he didn't write love songs, 755 00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:31,379 and it was brilliant. 756 00:37:33,686 --> 00:37:35,383 - We would often go to something called 757 00:37:35,427 --> 00:37:40,040 the Gioconda Cafe which is in Denmark Street, Tin Pan Alley. 758 00:37:40,083 --> 00:37:41,607 And he'd sit in this cafe 759 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:44,740 and he'd nurse a cup of tea for hours because at any moment, 760 00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:47,090 anyone from the song publishing companies 761 00:37:47,134 --> 00:37:49,919 would rush in say, "Oh, we need a bass player, 762 00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:51,878 "or we need a backing singer." 763 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,836 And they would sit and wait till somebody 764 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,056 came and called you in for something. 765 00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:59,015 So, he'd spend a lot of time there. 766 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:04,804 - We were looking for a comedy song for me to record, 767 00:38:04,847 --> 00:38:07,067 so I went along and met David. 768 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:09,504 And I think it was just him and I. 769 00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:12,072 And I would have been about 22, 770 00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:13,943 and he'd been about 20, I think, 771 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:16,032 so he was a very young man and hadn't at this point 772 00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:18,296 changed his name to Bowie. 773 00:38:18,339 --> 00:38:20,559 And I was very struck by him. 774 00:38:20,602 --> 00:38:23,692 He was very serious, 'cause I [laughs], 775 00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:25,564 I'm not overly serious. 776 00:38:25,607 --> 00:38:29,045 But, he was quite, I felt, intense for a young man. 777 00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:30,873 I was beginning to wonder whether this man, 778 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:32,832 who seemed quite serious, would have 779 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,400 the element of comedy that was required 780 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,403 for the thing that I was looking for. 781 00:38:38,446 --> 00:38:42,581 David had written this song called Over the Wall We Go. 782 00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:45,105 โ™ช Over the wall we go 783 00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:47,542 โ™ช All coppers are nanas 784 00:38:47,586 --> 00:38:51,241 โ™ช Over the wall we go 785 00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,896 - He played it to me, and I thought it was very funny. 786 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,637 I said, "Yeah, I think that's a good song. 787 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:56,986 "Let's have a go at that." 788 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:58,510 So, we went into the studio, recorded it. 789 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,033 He introduced a character 790 00:39:00,076 --> 00:39:04,342 which was a slightly more camp chap. [laughs] 791 00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:08,781 โ™ช Double three, four two seven 792 00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,391 - David does a little bit in the middle 793 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:12,437 where he does a roll call. 794 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,742 โ™ช Double three, four two three 795 00:39:13,786 --> 00:39:14,700 โ™ช I'm here 796 00:39:14,743 --> 00:39:16,223 โ™ช Double three, four two four 797 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:17,224 โ™ช Hello 798 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:18,747 โ™ช Double three, four two five 799 00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:19,705 โ™ช Hi 800 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:22,142 โ™ช Double three, four two six 801 00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:24,753 โ™ช Double three, four two six, where is he โ™ช 802 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:27,103 - And it was very big. 803 00:39:27,147 --> 00:39:29,454 It was very brash, very brassy. 804 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:33,719 It was well-arranged, and immediately got banned by the BBC. 805 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:37,331 It was felt it was too. 806 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:39,594 So, I feel quite proud to have been associated 807 00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:42,684 with a song that was banned by the BBC. 808 00:39:43,772 --> 00:39:45,034 I suppose that's the difference 809 00:39:45,078 --> 00:39:47,950 between, I don't want to compare myself to him, 810 00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:50,605 but I went off and had a fag and a laugh, 811 00:39:50,649 --> 00:39:52,433 and he stayed with it. 812 00:39:54,304 --> 00:39:58,439 [easygoing guitar music] 813 00:39:58,483 --> 00:40:00,441 - 50 songs isn't enough, I've realized. 814 00:40:00,485 --> 00:40:02,922 I heard, green with envy, Dylan's got like 815 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,185 147 songs he chooses from. 816 00:40:05,228 --> 00:40:07,927 And I can see that you got to build up to that 817 00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:09,450 because even when you got 50, 818 00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:10,582 there are some that you're going 819 00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:12,322 to fed up with faster than others. 820 00:40:12,366 --> 00:40:14,586 So, that 50 becomes kind of the 30 821 00:40:14,629 --> 00:40:16,762 with an unwritten 20 that you don't actually 822 00:40:16,805 --> 00:40:18,154 want to ever play again. 823 00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:20,113 So, you're back to 30 again. 824 00:40:20,156 --> 00:40:22,637 So, I think you have to go for at least 100 825 00:40:22,681 --> 00:40:26,902 to then end up with like 50 that you like doing. [laughs] 826 00:40:28,643 --> 00:40:30,471 - [Voiceover] The root of Bowie's genius 827 00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:33,605 lay in his ability to write classic pop songs 828 00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:35,215 and lots of them. 829 00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:39,001 - I take my work very seriously, 830 00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:42,701 but I try not to let it topple over 831 00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:45,617 into my psychological life too much 832 00:40:47,662 --> 00:40:50,622 and tear me apart like maybe it used to. 833 00:40:50,665 --> 00:40:54,147 - [Voiceover] So, is it very much work? 834 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:56,366 Are you able to kind of, what is it you do, 835 00:40:56,410 --> 00:40:58,978 carry the whole thing with you forever period? 836 00:40:59,021 --> 00:41:01,067 It is necessary part where you need 837 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:03,504 to forget it and have your personal life? 838 00:41:03,548 --> 00:41:05,724 - No, no, no, it's always with me, 839 00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:09,554 but not quite the same way that it used to be. 840 00:41:18,084 --> 00:41:19,955 Probably the priority in my life 841 00:41:19,999 --> 00:41:22,567 is my domestic and private life, 842 00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,048 but it's reflected in my work. 843 00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:30,488 - [Bob] The songwriting was the core of it all. 844 00:41:30,531 --> 00:41:33,229 - It's his songwriting will be remembered. 845 00:41:33,273 --> 00:41:36,537 - We're coming right back now to man and acoustic guitar. 846 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:38,757 So, you strip away all the other stuff 847 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,196 and just bring it back to that, voice and song. 848 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,069 And David was absolutely world-class. 849 00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:50,508 His lyrics, if there wasn't any other lyric line 850 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:53,162 but to "see the mice in their million hordes 851 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:56,122 "from Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads", 852 00:41:56,165 --> 00:41:59,995 you'd pin that as being one of the great lyric lines ever. 853 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,347 And David seemed almost able to pull this stuff out 854 00:42:05,871 --> 00:42:07,437 almost effortlessly. 855 00:42:07,481 --> 00:42:10,092 That was the extraordinary thing. 856 00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:13,574 - I do see that the writing that I do 857 00:42:13,618 --> 00:42:17,839 is very much in integral part of my for-real 24-day life. 858 00:42:19,188 --> 00:42:22,627 I do write a little bit every day. 859 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:24,803 Some days I hate it. 860 00:42:24,846 --> 00:42:26,587 It's an inconvenience, but it's just something 861 00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,023 I have to do. 862 00:42:28,067 --> 00:42:31,984 And some days, I can't wait to sit down and write. 863 00:42:33,899 --> 00:42:37,729 - There was one which he wrote after Zowie, Duncan, 864 00:42:37,772 --> 00:42:39,600 had been born. 865 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:42,647 โ™ช When you stay in my lover's story โ™ช 866 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:44,431 But, I was just thinking how sweet. 867 00:42:44,474 --> 00:42:46,389 He'd written this for his son. 868 00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:50,611 A lot of things he wrote with such heart. 869 00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:53,005 - I have to be comfortable with what I'm doing, 870 00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:56,574 and if I feel there's a kind of a, 871 00:42:56,617 --> 00:42:58,576 as near to a truth or an integrity 872 00:42:58,619 --> 00:43:02,797 about what I do and write, then that makes me feel 873 00:43:02,841 --> 00:43:05,887 that I'm a successful artist, I guess. 874 00:43:15,418 --> 00:43:16,681 - [Voiceover] Some of Bowie's lyrics 875 00:43:16,724 --> 00:43:19,248 owned their composition to the cut-up technique, 876 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:22,991 popularized by the poet William Burroughs. 877 00:43:23,035 --> 00:43:26,473 - You take a song, and there it is in its right order. 878 00:43:26,516 --> 00:43:28,257 You cut it to pieces, 879 00:43:28,301 --> 00:43:31,565 and then put it back together again randomly, 880 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:33,567 and you are going to get the same words. 881 00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:35,395 They're just in a different order. 882 00:43:35,438 --> 00:43:38,833 But, the ultimate meaning of the song remains the same. 883 00:43:38,877 --> 00:43:41,880 He wasn't a sort of artist, chiseling away 884 00:43:41,923 --> 00:43:45,187 at the coal face of creativity. 885 00:43:45,231 --> 00:43:48,016 It just seemed to flow out of him. 886 00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:52,804 - [Voiceover] In 1967, Bowie met his first wife, 887 00:43:52,847 --> 00:43:54,849 Angela Barnett. 888 00:43:54,893 --> 00:43:58,723 - She turned up one day after I'd been away, 889 00:43:58,766 --> 00:44:00,681 and I discovered that she'd more or less 890 00:44:00,725 --> 00:44:02,291 moved in with David. 891 00:44:05,251 --> 00:44:09,777 I'm not quite sure why I allowed this to happen, 892 00:44:09,821 --> 00:44:13,955 but I was ousted, and she replaced me as his lover. 893 00:44:17,611 --> 00:44:19,700 - He was the first one to say to me, 894 00:44:19,744 --> 00:44:22,703 "Look, I've met somebody I think who's really special. 895 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,531 "I think you'd get along well with her." 896 00:44:24,574 --> 00:44:27,316 - I'm not going to bitch about Angie. 897 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,623 She was turbulent. 898 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:31,799 This can go on record. 899 00:44:31,843 --> 00:44:33,453 She was turbulent. 900 00:44:33,496 --> 00:44:35,281 She was a drama queen. 901 00:44:36,761 --> 00:44:39,285 She threw wobblies quite a bit. 902 00:44:40,808 --> 00:44:44,899 Some of them were just straightforward hissy fits. 903 00:44:44,943 --> 00:44:48,860 Others were designed to focus attention on her, 904 00:44:50,775 --> 00:44:53,778 and others to attract somebody 905 00:44:53,821 --> 00:44:56,171 that she wanted to impress. 906 00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:58,826 - Angie and I instantly hit it off. 907 00:44:58,870 --> 00:45:00,959 We were instantly good friends, 908 00:45:01,002 --> 00:45:03,918 'cause I never had issues with, 909 00:45:03,962 --> 00:45:08,531 I was happy that he'd found somebody to be with him. 910 00:45:08,575 --> 00:45:11,447 - I allowed them to stay in the apartment. 911 00:45:11,491 --> 00:45:14,712 She was there pretty well all the time. 912 00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:17,889 Why did I do it? 913 00:45:17,932 --> 00:45:21,196 I wouldn't tolerate it for 30 seconds now. 914 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,460 They would have been out on their ear. 915 00:45:26,201 --> 00:45:27,768 - [Dana] We'd go down there most weekends 916 00:45:27,812 --> 00:45:29,814 and hang out with him and Angie. 917 00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:31,816 - I was having so much fun. 918 00:45:31,859 --> 00:45:33,469 I was enjoying it. 919 00:45:33,513 --> 00:45:36,385 The activity that went on around the arts lab, 920 00:45:36,429 --> 00:45:38,561 and the continuous party. 921 00:45:39,824 --> 00:45:42,827 Our house became the court of King David. 922 00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:45,830 - [Dana] Angie was amazing in those days. 923 00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:48,441 You could literally give Angie a carrot and a potato 924 00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:50,660 and an onion and she would make enough food 925 00:45:50,704 --> 00:45:54,534 to feed everyone because she was that organized. 926 00:45:54,577 --> 00:45:56,536 - She was very generous. 927 00:45:56,579 --> 00:45:58,886 She bought her own food and took us out 928 00:45:58,930 --> 00:46:01,410 to lots of nice outings. 929 00:46:01,454 --> 00:46:03,412 - She was the perfect foil for him. 930 00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:05,806 She was loud, but highly cultured. 931 00:46:05,850 --> 00:46:07,068 She'd speak French. 932 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:07,982 She'd traveled. 933 00:46:08,026 --> 00:46:09,418 Her parents were very nice, 934 00:46:09,462 --> 00:46:11,986 and she was there always for him. 935 00:46:13,422 --> 00:46:15,250 - We spoke French together, 936 00:46:15,294 --> 00:46:17,209 which irritated David to no end. 937 00:46:17,252 --> 00:46:20,473 We'd both been to school in Switzerland, 938 00:46:20,516 --> 00:46:22,823 so we did quite in common back then. 939 00:46:22,867 --> 00:46:25,260 - He would be in his room off and just lolling about 940 00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:28,263 with his acoustic guitar or bits of paper 941 00:46:28,307 --> 00:46:29,874 having ideas for songs. 942 00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:31,832 Or sometimes he'd play a song to her. 943 00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:33,399 She always was positive. 944 00:46:33,442 --> 00:46:35,053 She would always say, "This is great." 945 00:46:35,096 --> 00:46:39,187 - In September 1969, they found their own apartment 946 00:46:39,231 --> 00:46:43,148 and they moved out, but we stayed friends. 947 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:47,195 My love for him had changed a little bit pretty quickly 948 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,849 because I was deeply pissed off 949 00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:50,895 about what had happened. 950 00:46:52,331 --> 00:46:54,115 I was sad for a while, 951 00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:58,772 and then annoyed, and then resigned. 952 00:47:00,165 --> 00:47:02,167 - I read Mary Finnigan's book where she said, 953 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:05,387 "She was devastated 'cause he was being unfaithful." 954 00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:08,260 I didn't expect faithfulness from Bowie. 955 00:47:08,303 --> 00:47:09,914 He was a musician for goodness sake. 956 00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:12,307 The two don't go together. 957 00:47:12,351 --> 00:47:14,048 - [Mary] I didn't know what he was up to 958 00:47:14,092 --> 00:47:15,963 when he wasn't there, but I found that out 959 00:47:16,007 --> 00:47:17,878 many years later. 960 00:47:17,922 --> 00:47:19,749 - Women that thought their hearts were broken 961 00:47:19,793 --> 00:47:23,536 were fools basically because you don't tame 962 00:47:23,579 --> 00:47:27,932 a man like Bowie, especially not in those early years. 963 00:47:27,975 --> 00:47:29,759 - Yeah, I was pretty upset, 964 00:47:29,803 --> 00:47:31,065 but it didn't last for very long. 965 00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:32,327 I got over it. 966 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:44,209 - [Voiceover] In August 1969, Bowie and Finnigan 967 00:47:44,252 --> 00:47:46,428 organized a free music festival 968 00:47:46,472 --> 00:47:50,693 which was held on the recreation ground in Beckenham. 969 00:47:53,218 --> 00:47:55,785 - That was kind of a peak experience, 970 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:57,918 when about 1,000 people turned out, 971 00:47:57,962 --> 00:48:00,878 and we hardly publicized it at all. 972 00:48:03,489 --> 00:48:05,447 David was very sad. 973 00:48:05,491 --> 00:48:07,145 He was grieving because his father 974 00:48:07,188 --> 00:48:09,930 had died about a week earlier. 975 00:48:09,974 --> 00:48:13,281 And he performed as a true professional, 976 00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:20,288 and nobody who saw him performing would have known. 977 00:48:26,164 --> 00:48:28,122 - Right from the start, I was aware 978 00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:30,995 that David had a vision in terms 979 00:48:31,038 --> 00:48:35,869 of what he wanted to do and how he saw himself, 980 00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:39,568 and the kind of music that he wanted to make. 981 00:48:40,526 --> 00:48:42,745 I was an aspiring DJ. 982 00:48:42,789 --> 00:48:45,139 My whole job was to fill the dance floor, 983 00:48:45,183 --> 00:48:48,186 and I'd invited David to come down with me 984 00:48:48,229 --> 00:48:50,188 because I thought this might be an option 985 00:48:50,231 --> 00:48:51,450 for him to play. 986 00:48:52,668 --> 00:48:54,975 So, he'd just started going out with Angie, 987 00:48:55,019 --> 00:48:56,455 and so, she came. 988 00:48:56,498 --> 00:48:58,152 So, I remember her sitting on the edge of the stage. 989 00:48:58,196 --> 00:49:00,981 David had a set of the backing track 990 00:49:01,025 --> 00:49:03,984 of this single that he was working on at the time. 991 00:49:04,028 --> 00:49:05,812 So, I introduced him. 992 00:49:05,855 --> 00:49:08,902 We had been slamming out this really loud bass beat 993 00:49:08,946 --> 00:49:10,599 and all of that, and David came out 994 00:49:10,643 --> 00:49:13,341 with his little acoustic backtrack 995 00:49:14,995 --> 00:49:17,563 which he then sang live over the top-off. 996 00:49:17,606 --> 00:49:21,306 The volume difference between my dance music 997 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:22,916 and him was huge. 998 00:49:23,961 --> 00:49:25,353 The floor cleared. 999 00:49:25,397 --> 00:49:26,354 People got restless. 1000 00:49:26,398 --> 00:49:28,095 People were booing. 1001 00:49:28,139 --> 00:49:31,011 People started throwing beer, 1002 00:49:31,055 --> 00:49:35,233 and it just got absolutely chaotic within almost moments. 1003 00:49:35,276 --> 00:49:37,975 And David had to leave the stage, 1004 00:49:39,237 --> 00:49:41,413 and I strolled into the center of stage. 1005 00:49:41,456 --> 00:49:42,849 I was so furious. 1006 00:49:42,892 --> 00:49:45,156 I said, "You remember this night. 1007 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:46,461 "This is David Bowie. 1008 00:49:46,505 --> 00:49:47,549 "Remember the name. 1009 00:49:47,593 --> 00:49:48,855 "He's going to be huge." 1010 00:49:48,898 --> 00:49:50,596 And I really knew it at the time. 1011 00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,164 They just wanted to party, 1012 00:49:53,207 --> 00:49:56,167 and this rather sort of kooky acoustic alien 1013 00:49:56,210 --> 00:50:00,432 that had arrived onstage was a bit too much for them. 1014 00:50:06,525 --> 00:50:08,048 - [Voiceover] Throughout his career, 1015 00:50:08,092 --> 00:50:11,747 David Bowie's style and image were inextricably linked 1016 00:50:11,791 --> 00:50:13,097 with his music. 1017 00:50:17,275 --> 00:50:18,885 - Bowie set trends. 1018 00:50:18,928 --> 00:50:20,800 He created his own styles. 1019 00:50:20,843 --> 00:50:24,456 His creative vision was about reinventing himself. 1020 00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:26,675 That was something that no one had done before. 1021 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,201 Now, lots of artists reinvent themselves all the time. 1022 00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:32,290 We're very used to seeing that, 1023 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,292 but he was the first person to make himself 1024 00:50:34,335 --> 00:50:37,991 the focus of his own kind of reinventions. 1025 00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:40,646 - Do you see the way the people out there, 1026 00:50:40,689 --> 00:50:43,562 how their appearances are changing during the tour? 1027 00:50:43,605 --> 00:50:45,259 When they first saw you. 1028 00:50:45,303 --> 00:50:48,045 - It's quite amazing because there's all seven characters 1029 00:50:48,088 --> 00:50:49,959 that I've created throughout this summer. 1030 00:50:50,003 --> 00:50:53,137 I see a Man Who Fell To Earth, and a Ziggy Stardust 1031 00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:54,834 and a Thin White Duke. 1032 00:50:54,877 --> 00:50:56,923 And at the moment, a lot of sailor's hats and things. 1033 00:50:56,966 --> 00:50:59,099 That's incredibly endearing. 1034 00:51:00,318 --> 00:51:01,928 - [Woman] Are you aware of the consequences 1035 00:51:01,971 --> 00:51:03,669 of things that you do and say? 1036 00:51:03,712 --> 00:51:05,932 Is it possible to be relaxed to act 1037 00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:08,065 in a spontaneous way when everything 1038 00:51:08,108 --> 00:51:11,111 that you were can be suddenly picked up by? 1039 00:51:11,155 --> 00:51:12,591 - Well, it is at the moment because 1040 00:51:12,634 --> 00:51:14,288 it's not that sort of outrageous really. 1041 00:51:14,332 --> 00:51:17,378 I mean, everybody wears plastic now. 1042 00:51:17,422 --> 00:51:20,251 - I cannot recall an artist who changed 1043 00:51:20,294 --> 00:51:24,385 his or her image so frequently and so completely. 1044 00:51:26,692 --> 00:51:29,738 This caused tremendous problems for his fans 1045 00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:31,653 who would turn up for his gigs 1046 00:51:31,697 --> 00:51:33,916 dressed in last year's image, 1047 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,528 and at the interval, would look very sheepish 1048 00:51:36,571 --> 00:51:39,444 because they realized they were wearing the wrong costume. 1049 00:51:39,487 --> 00:51:41,924 - [Voiceover] Have you come on the train like that today? 1050 00:51:41,968 --> 00:51:43,578 - Yeah. 1051 00:51:43,622 --> 00:51:45,145 - [Voiceover] You came on the underground dressed like that? 1052 00:51:45,189 --> 00:51:47,626 Did you get a bit of stick from other passengers, I mean? 1053 00:51:47,669 --> 00:51:49,584 - Sort of, one way guy. 1054 00:51:50,759 --> 00:51:54,459 - Singularly, the most important artist 1055 00:51:54,502 --> 00:51:57,331 in terms of style and fashion. 1056 00:51:57,375 --> 00:51:58,854 You only got to look around at the audience 1057 00:51:58,898 --> 00:52:01,770 at a Bowie concert and it's a carbon copy 1058 00:52:01,814 --> 00:52:03,946 of what's going on inside. 1059 00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:07,428 - I was a compere on a few of the early tour dates, 1060 00:52:07,472 --> 00:52:10,170 so from the stage, you're getting a pretty unique view 1061 00:52:10,214 --> 00:52:11,737 of what's happening in front of you. 1062 00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:13,565 And gradually, you're beginning to see people arrive 1063 00:52:13,608 --> 00:52:15,219 looking like David. 1064 00:52:15,262 --> 00:52:18,178 Wow, I mean, you looked out at the whole audience 1065 00:52:18,222 --> 00:52:20,833 and they'd all made a massive effort 1066 00:52:20,876 --> 00:52:23,575 to kind of dress up and be Bowie. 1067 00:52:27,622 --> 00:52:29,276 - [Voiceover] Ziggy was his best character. 1068 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,191 - [Voiceover] When you saw him do Ziggy onstage, 1069 00:52:31,235 --> 00:52:34,194 what made you decide to look like that? 1070 00:52:34,238 --> 00:52:36,414 - Just brilliant. 1071 00:52:36,457 --> 00:52:39,068 Just everything you could imagine. 1072 00:52:39,112 --> 00:52:40,200 - [Voiceover] What's your name? 1073 00:52:40,244 --> 00:52:41,419 - Ziggy Zowie. 1074 00:52:41,462 --> 00:52:42,637 - [Voiceover] What was it before? 1075 00:52:42,681 --> 00:52:44,248 - My real name is Mandy Laming, 1076 00:52:44,291 --> 00:52:46,337 but that's a bit boring. [laughs] 1077 00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:48,861 - Well, I've had the outfit for ages, really. 1078 00:52:48,904 --> 00:52:51,211 It's just built up from a tour a long time ago. 1079 00:52:51,255 --> 00:52:54,127 I just put it together when I saw his new film. 1080 00:52:54,171 --> 00:52:56,173 Then, I saw he got fed up with dyed hair, 1081 00:52:56,216 --> 00:52:57,261 and so he's matured. 1082 00:52:57,304 --> 00:52:59,915 Just carried on doing that. 1083 00:53:02,744 --> 00:53:04,268 - [Voiceover] You think he's ahead of time, 1084 00:53:04,311 --> 00:53:05,965 or he's just completely? 1085 00:53:06,008 --> 00:53:09,751 - Yes, he's about six years ahead of it, I suppose, yeah. 1086 00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:11,362 - I think he attracts the punks 1087 00:53:11,405 --> 00:53:13,146 because they like the idea of someone 1088 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:16,193 who's in a constant state of change, 1089 00:53:17,455 --> 00:53:21,415 and also doesn't represent the hippie period. 1090 00:53:25,332 --> 00:53:27,421 - [Voiceover] Why do you think they want to look like him? 1091 00:53:27,465 --> 00:53:30,772 - Wouldn't you? [laughs] 1092 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,472 - [Voiceover] You seem really happy onstage 1093 00:53:34,515 --> 00:53:38,780 to go through the old songs, and to do them in a new way. 1094 00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:40,869 And everybody, obviously, in the audience 1095 00:53:40,913 --> 00:53:42,349 goes along with it. - [David] Yes, I'm having 1096 00:53:42,393 --> 00:53:43,655 a very good time. 1097 00:53:43,698 --> 00:53:45,657 - [Woman] But, please tell me why is though 1098 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:49,487 that your fans are happy to go along with your changes? 1099 00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:50,662 Do you know what I mean? 1100 00:53:50,705 --> 00:53:52,054 There are the performers that their fans-- 1101 00:53:52,098 --> 00:53:53,360 - You have to ask them, I think. 1102 00:53:53,404 --> 00:53:56,058 - Yeah, they all seem happy to spend 300 quid 1103 00:53:56,102 --> 00:53:57,625 and come and see you on tour. 1104 00:53:57,669 --> 00:53:59,453 - Yes, is that how much my tickets are? 1105 00:53:59,497 --> 00:54:01,455 - No, that's how many concerts they're been to. 1106 00:54:01,499 --> 00:54:02,804 [laughing] 1107 00:54:02,848 --> 00:54:04,850 - I know, it's quite amazing, incredible. 1108 00:54:04,893 --> 00:54:08,114 [cheers and applause] 1109 00:54:21,997 --> 00:54:24,304 - [Voiceover] Bowie first tasted commercial success 1110 00:54:24,348 --> 00:54:27,394 in 1969 when Space Oddity was released, 1111 00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:31,268 as the world was transfixed with Apollo 11 1112 00:54:31,311 --> 00:54:33,574 and its journey of discovery. 1113 00:54:35,489 --> 00:54:37,143 - I just thought it was the greatest song. 1114 00:54:37,186 --> 00:54:39,972 Just most fantastic, fantastic original song. 1115 00:54:40,015 --> 00:54:42,453 - People don't realize what a slow burn 1116 00:54:42,496 --> 00:54:44,759 David was in the United States. 1117 00:54:44,803 --> 00:54:48,459 Space Oddity was not a hit on its immediate release. 1118 00:54:48,502 --> 00:54:52,985 It was only a hit after Elton had had Rocket Man in America, 1119 00:54:53,028 --> 00:54:54,682 and then Space Oddity became a hit, 1120 00:54:54,726 --> 00:54:55,509 early '73. 1121 00:54:57,424 --> 00:55:00,079 It's inconceivable to think 1122 00:55:00,122 --> 00:55:02,560 that the albums we consider classics 1123 00:55:02,603 --> 00:55:06,520 were not upon release, popular in the United States. 1124 00:55:06,564 --> 00:55:09,044 - I hadn't realized what an impact is was going to make, 1125 00:55:09,088 --> 00:55:10,481 'cause it did actually. 1126 00:55:10,524 --> 00:55:11,612 It suddenly put him out there 1127 00:55:11,656 --> 00:55:14,311 as a little bit of the alien 1128 00:55:14,354 --> 00:55:17,401 which has stayed with him forever. 1129 00:55:17,444 --> 00:55:19,403 - [Voiceover] The song was used by the BBC 1130 00:55:19,446 --> 00:55:21,492 for their coverage of the moon landing. 1131 00:55:21,535 --> 00:55:23,407 And although it reached number one, 1132 00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:26,540 success was far from assured. 1133 00:55:26,584 --> 00:55:29,456 For all its brilliance, the public thought of it 1134 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:31,328 as a novelty record. 1135 00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:34,853 - Then, really not very much happening. 1136 00:55:34,896 --> 00:55:38,030 He sort of disappeared from certainly 1137 00:55:39,379 --> 00:55:41,381 any degree of success. 1138 00:55:41,425 --> 00:55:42,817 - [Dana] It wasn't that easy at the beginning 1139 00:55:42,861 --> 00:55:45,690 'cause he wasn't managed by anyone really good 1140 00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:49,911 until Defries, but he did what he wanted. 1141 00:55:49,955 --> 00:55:51,391 - That's how I did for management, 1142 00:55:51,435 --> 00:55:53,611 and I signed him for records. 1143 00:55:53,654 --> 00:55:57,528 And I think the greatest favor I ever did him 1144 00:55:57,571 --> 00:55:59,965 was he had no interference whatsoever 1145 00:56:00,008 --> 00:56:01,401 when he was recording. 1146 00:56:01,445 --> 00:56:04,012 No input from the record company. 1147 00:56:04,056 --> 00:56:07,320 And that gave him a huge amount of freedom 1148 00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:08,974 which artists didn't usually have. 1149 00:56:09,017 --> 00:56:10,062 They were just artists. 1150 00:56:10,105 --> 00:56:11,106 They came. 1151 00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:12,412 They went. 1152 00:56:12,456 --> 00:56:14,283 No one thought they were going to make history. 1153 00:56:14,327 --> 00:56:17,243 [electronic music] 1154 00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:24,468 - [Voiceover] Not everyone appreciated David Bowie's 1155 00:56:24,511 --> 00:56:26,034 songwriting skills. 1156 00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:31,039 - The first time I met Andrew Lloyd Webber, 1157 00:56:31,083 --> 00:56:33,781 Starman was on the radio. 1158 00:56:33,825 --> 00:56:36,828 And he said to me, "What do you think of this? 1159 00:56:36,871 --> 00:56:38,177 "He can't sing. 1160 00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:41,310 "I used to love rock. 1161 00:56:42,616 --> 00:56:44,444 "I loved the Everly Brothers, 1162 00:56:44,488 --> 00:56:46,272 "but I'm losing touch. 1163 00:56:48,317 --> 00:56:49,841 "I don't like this." 1164 00:56:49,884 --> 00:56:54,019 And of course, that was the change in his writing 1165 00:56:54,062 --> 00:56:55,629 away from Jesus Christ Superstar, 1166 00:56:55,673 --> 00:56:57,544 which had been a so-called rock opera. 1167 00:56:57,588 --> 00:57:01,853 - I was the first Mary Magdalene in Jesus Christ Superstar. 1168 00:57:01,896 --> 00:57:04,682 - And that was a very daring thing, Jesus Christ Superstar, 1169 00:57:04,725 --> 00:57:06,423 in those days. 1170 00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:09,513 Just to call Jesus Christ a superstar 1171 00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,559 offended a lot of people. 1172 00:57:12,603 --> 00:57:14,909 And we had a lot of people out front protesting. 1173 00:57:14,953 --> 00:57:18,652 - David and Angie came to see Jesus Christ Superstar, 1174 00:57:18,696 --> 00:57:20,045 and they left in the interval. 1175 00:57:20,088 --> 00:57:20,828 They hated it. 1176 00:57:20,872 --> 00:57:22,308 I was mortified. 1177 00:57:22,351 --> 00:57:23,701 I knew they wouldn't like it. 1178 00:57:23,744 --> 00:57:25,833 It's not his kind of music. 1179 00:57:25,877 --> 00:57:27,574 - Now, this is a mutual antipathy 1180 00:57:27,618 --> 00:57:28,836 because David left at the interval 1181 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,623 'cause he didn't like that style of music. 1182 00:57:32,666 --> 00:57:35,103 Of course, the world was big enough for both of them. 1183 00:57:35,147 --> 00:57:36,540 - They should've stayed for the crucifixion. 1184 00:57:36,583 --> 00:57:37,845 It was brilliant. 1185 00:57:37,889 --> 00:57:39,151 - Paul Nicholas, who was fabulous, 1186 00:57:39,194 --> 00:57:40,500 I had to watch him being crucified 1187 00:57:40,544 --> 00:57:43,111 eight times a week for a year. 1188 00:57:43,155 --> 00:57:47,333 - I was particularly good in that bit. [laughs] 1189 00:57:47,376 --> 00:57:50,379 I didn't have to do a lot, mind you. 1190 00:57:59,954 --> 00:58:03,305 - [Voiceover] Artistically, Bowie was powering ahead. 1191 00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:07,484 In 1970, he formed a short-lived band called Hype 1192 00:58:07,527 --> 00:58:11,618 though the recruitment of Hull guitarist, Mick Ronson. 1193 00:58:14,708 --> 00:58:17,406 - [Bob] It's impossible to overstate, I think, 1194 00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:20,714 how important Mick Ronson was to everything that happened. 1195 00:58:20,758 --> 00:58:24,762 - Mick Ronson was a great guitarist, genius guitarist. 1196 00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:27,895 - If anything, Mick Ronson's contribution 1197 00:58:27,939 --> 00:58:32,334 to David's sound has been underplayed and under-recognized. 1198 00:58:32,378 --> 00:58:36,121 I think he was crucial, absolutely crucial, 1199 00:58:36,164 --> 00:58:38,384 to the sound and image. 1200 00:58:38,427 --> 00:58:39,951 - I don't think he was that comfortable 1201 00:58:39,994 --> 00:58:42,475 with all the kind of getting down on his knees 1202 00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,216 in front of David and all of that 1203 00:58:44,259 --> 00:58:47,567 'cause he's a straight guy from Hull. 1204 00:58:47,611 --> 00:58:49,221 - [Voiceover] A version of Hype would evolve 1205 00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,745 into the Spiders From Mars 1206 00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:54,879 and create some of Bowie's most groundbreaking work, 1207 00:58:54,922 --> 00:58:58,796 starting with the Man Who Sold the World 1208 00:58:58,839 --> 00:59:01,581 followed by Hunky Dory which introduced 1209 00:59:01,625 --> 00:59:04,062 the sexual ambiguity that would become 1210 00:59:04,105 --> 00:59:07,239 an important part of Bowie's imagery. 1211 00:59:11,025 --> 00:59:12,723 - [Bob] You had Space Oddity, and then there was 1212 00:59:12,766 --> 00:59:14,725 a lull for a moment, but then came Hunky Dory. 1213 00:59:14,768 --> 00:59:18,772 - There's David in a dress on the album cover, unheard of. 1214 00:59:18,816 --> 00:59:20,731 Tame by today's standards where everyone's 1215 00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:23,211 nearly naked on the pop video. 1216 00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:27,346 - [Bob] So, David is saying to gay people in the early '70s 1217 00:59:27,389 --> 00:59:29,000 "Don't be afraid. 1218 00:59:29,043 --> 00:59:29,827 "Be you. 1219 00:59:30,697 --> 00:59:31,959 "Look what we can do. 1220 00:59:32,003 --> 00:59:32,960 "Look at me." 1221 00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:35,484 - He was androgynous, gay. 1222 00:59:35,528 --> 00:59:36,398 He was outrageous. 1223 00:59:36,442 --> 00:59:37,965 He didn't know which way he was. 1224 00:59:38,009 --> 00:59:39,793 He didn't really care. 1225 00:59:39,837 --> 00:59:43,667 - He was already giving all the signals 1226 00:59:43,710 --> 00:59:46,887 that he was going to blur the lines. 1227 00:59:46,931 --> 00:59:49,107 - [Laurence] Marc Bolan started it for him, started it. 1228 00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:52,284 - Marc was kind of androgynous in a way. 1229 00:59:52,327 --> 00:59:55,113 He had this corkscrew hair. 1230 00:59:55,156 --> 00:59:57,811 He wore ballet shoes, and makeup, 1231 00:59:59,726 --> 01:00:03,034 and guys hadn't sort of done that before. 1232 01:00:04,209 --> 01:00:06,603 But, absolutely parallel with that, 1233 01:00:06,646 --> 01:00:10,041 David was developing the Ziggy persona. 1234 01:00:10,084 --> 01:00:12,739 - He questioned notions of gender 1235 01:00:12,783 --> 01:00:15,612 and of what masculinity is, 1236 01:00:15,655 --> 01:00:17,265 being a sort of performing artist 1237 01:00:17,309 --> 01:00:18,832 as opposed to a rock star. 1238 01:00:18,876 --> 01:00:20,704 But, have since become adopted 1239 01:00:20,747 --> 01:00:23,663 by a lot of other people since. 1240 01:00:23,707 --> 01:00:26,492 - [Dana] The bisexual thing, it was very well-timed. 1241 01:00:26,535 --> 01:00:30,670 Suddenly, to be gay was kind of cool in those days. 1242 01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:33,673 - Up until then, nobody was overtly gay. 1243 01:00:33,717 --> 01:00:36,633 Johnnie Ray, who was a huge star. 1244 01:00:37,895 --> 01:00:40,680 He was gay, but no one knew about it 1245 01:00:40,724 --> 01:00:43,378 because the fear was no one would buy his records. 1246 01:00:43,422 --> 01:00:44,902 And I said, "You know," 1247 01:00:44,945 --> 01:00:47,034 and this was the perceived wisdom at the time. 1248 01:00:47,078 --> 01:00:49,689 I was [mumbles]. 1249 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:53,650 "Girls buy records and girls have their pop stars." 1250 01:00:54,825 --> 01:00:57,697 And he said, "You know, time to change it. 1251 01:00:57,741 --> 01:01:00,134 "Don't worry about it." 1252 01:01:00,178 --> 01:01:01,570 And he was so bright. 1253 01:01:01,614 --> 01:01:04,008 He glammed up and he wore the tinsel, 1254 01:01:04,051 --> 01:01:05,662 but he didn't say he was gay. 1255 01:01:05,705 --> 01:01:08,665 - He was always, in my opinion, far more hetero. 1256 01:01:08,708 --> 01:01:10,536 He was a real man, strangely enough, 1257 01:01:10,579 --> 01:01:12,320 although he had, when naked, 1258 01:01:12,364 --> 01:01:14,714 he had what I call childbearing. 1259 01:01:14,758 --> 01:01:19,023 His hips were bigger than his very thin shoulders. 1260 01:01:19,066 --> 01:01:23,070 He had a rather odd shape, actually, when stark. 1261 01:01:23,941 --> 01:01:25,856 - He made it OK. 1262 01:01:25,899 --> 01:01:27,771 You can be successful. 1263 01:01:27,814 --> 01:01:29,642 You don't have to hide what you are 1264 01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:31,078 or who you are. 1265 01:01:31,122 --> 01:01:35,430 And I think that influenced not only other artists, 1266 01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:36,736 but the public. 1267 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,739 [cheers and applause] 1268 01:01:47,965 --> 01:01:49,923 - [Voiceover] One object of Bowie's admiration 1269 01:01:49,967 --> 01:01:52,926 was New York pop art icon Andy Warhol. 1270 01:01:55,755 --> 01:01:58,584 - Andy Warhol was a massive figure in David's life 1271 01:01:58,627 --> 01:02:00,499 in the late '60s, early '70s, 1272 01:02:00,542 --> 01:02:02,501 what the factory was doing in New York. 1273 01:02:02,544 --> 01:02:04,503 - He said, "Look, OK, I've written a song 1274 01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:06,200 for you Andy Warhol." 1275 01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:08,942 โ™ช Andy Warhol, Silver Screen 1276 01:02:08,986 --> 01:02:10,770 But, strangely enough, for me, 1277 01:02:10,814 --> 01:02:12,685 one of the weirder songs to give to me 1278 01:02:12,729 --> 01:02:14,339 'cause it's very abstract. 1279 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:15,557 I don't sing abstract. 1280 01:02:15,601 --> 01:02:16,820 I sing about emotions. 1281 01:02:16,863 --> 01:02:18,822 I would rather die than have an Andy Warhol 1282 01:02:18,865 --> 01:02:20,911 can of soup on my wall. 1283 01:02:20,954 --> 01:02:24,044 But, I never felt that close to the song. 1284 01:02:24,088 --> 01:02:26,786 It was hard to put any emotion into that 1285 01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:30,834 because Andy Warhol is not, it's not an emotional song. 1286 01:02:30,877 --> 01:02:32,618 Then, he liked my version so much, 1287 01:02:32,661 --> 01:02:36,013 he did his own version on the Hunky Dory album. 1288 01:02:36,056 --> 01:02:38,842 โ™ช Andy takes a little snooze 1289 01:02:38,885 --> 01:02:41,627 โ™ช Tie him when he's fast asleep 1290 01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:45,849 โ™ช Send him on a pleasant cruise โ™ช 1291 01:02:49,853 --> 01:02:52,420 [rhythmic instrumental music] 1292 01:02:52,464 --> 01:02:53,857 - [Voiceover] Hunky Dory was received 1293 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:56,860 with moderate success, but all that changed 1294 01:02:56,903 --> 01:02:59,471 with the Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust 1295 01:02:59,514 --> 01:03:01,603 and the Spiders from Mars. 1296 01:03:01,647 --> 01:03:06,608 During 1972, Britain was crippled by industrial action. 1297 01:03:06,652 --> 01:03:08,436 The mood of the nation was dark, 1298 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,004 and the culture was conservative. 1299 01:03:11,048 --> 01:03:13,877 This is when Bowie unleashed Ziggy, 1300 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,357 the leading figure in the glam rock movement 1301 01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:19,404 which turned pop in a new direction. 1302 01:03:21,319 --> 01:03:22,711 - It's very funny. 1303 01:03:22,755 --> 01:03:25,366 It's, again, it works a lot more 1304 01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:27,978 because of its mistakes than its intentions, 1305 01:03:28,021 --> 01:03:29,066 but it's great. 1306 01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:30,589 It's terrific. 1307 01:03:30,632 --> 01:03:32,939 The one thing that comes to me more than anything else 1308 01:03:32,983 --> 01:03:35,724 is how influenced I was by Japan back then. 1309 01:03:35,768 --> 01:03:38,336 It just screams from the screen. 1310 01:03:40,294 --> 01:03:41,730 It's the whole thing. 1311 01:03:41,774 --> 01:03:44,081 It looks like I'm stretching over to the East 1312 01:03:44,124 --> 01:03:46,039 for inspiration. 1313 01:03:46,083 --> 01:03:49,390 I never realized how much that was apparent at the time. 1314 01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:50,870 - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust 1315 01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:53,655 and the Spiders from Mars, it's so amusing. 1316 01:03:53,699 --> 01:03:56,049 It's now, of course, a classic, 1317 01:03:56,093 --> 01:03:58,225 but it didn't even make the top 40 1318 01:03:58,269 --> 01:04:00,445 on its original release because American radio 1319 01:04:00,488 --> 01:04:02,621 considered him too weird. 1320 01:04:06,407 --> 01:04:09,497 - [Voiceover] Bowie was already planning fresh career moves. 1321 01:04:09,541 --> 01:04:12,109 In 1973, he stunned his audience 1322 01:04:12,152 --> 01:04:15,242 by announcing the retirement of Ziggy. 1323 01:04:15,286 --> 01:04:17,157 - I've had a really incredibly loyal audience 1324 01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:19,638 for so many years now. 1325 01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:22,032 Virtually since when I started. 1326 01:04:22,075 --> 01:04:26,079 They sort of, it doesn't really matter what I do 1327 01:04:27,298 --> 01:04:30,562 that they seem to follow my turns 1328 01:04:30,605 --> 01:04:34,914 and all those strange distracted things I do, 1329 01:04:34,958 --> 01:04:37,047 but quite loyally, you know? 1330 01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:40,050 Which I'll always thank them for that. 1331 01:04:45,142 --> 01:04:49,450 [upbeat instrumental music] 1332 01:04:49,494 --> 01:04:51,844 - [Voiceover] By the mid-1970s, David Bowie 1333 01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:54,978 had metamorphosed again, and was still 1334 01:04:55,021 --> 01:04:56,936 breaking new musical ground. 1335 01:04:56,980 --> 01:05:01,158 Station to Station provided a dose of synthetic funk, 1336 01:05:01,201 --> 01:05:04,161 and introduced Bowie's most toxic alterego, 1337 01:05:04,204 --> 01:05:05,902 The Thin White Duke. 1338 01:05:08,034 --> 01:05:09,775 - [Russell] Do you have any idea, at this stage, 1339 01:05:09,818 --> 01:05:11,081 apart from just getting out on the stage, 1340 01:05:11,124 --> 01:05:13,126 how you astound? 1341 01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:14,606 Or does it actually come to you 1342 01:05:14,649 --> 01:05:16,216 in the middle of the night before? 1343 01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:18,827 - Actually, it'll probably be a lot faster than I've been. 1344 01:05:18,871 --> 01:05:20,046 That'll be my. 1345 01:05:21,352 --> 01:05:24,181 No, I haven't any thoughts about that at all. 1346 01:05:24,224 --> 01:05:27,445 The impact of the show has to be the outstanding thing, 1347 01:05:27,488 --> 01:05:29,403 not the dressing of it. 1348 01:05:30,709 --> 01:05:32,841 Dressing of the show is just a dressing. 1349 01:05:32,885 --> 01:05:36,715 It's a sort of perfunctory sort of thing., 1350 01:05:36,758 --> 01:05:38,935 but the content has to astound. 1351 01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:42,460 You can dress a show with a trillion dollars, 1352 01:05:42,503 --> 01:05:45,419 or trillion pounds worth of goodies, 1353 01:05:45,463 --> 01:05:49,206 but if the show is not a substantial, 1354 01:05:49,249 --> 01:05:51,121 they will be no impact. 1355 01:05:52,774 --> 01:05:54,602 - He was more into the craft of being 1356 01:05:54,646 --> 01:05:58,867 an artist onstage then any rock star I've ever worked with. 1357 01:06:00,043 --> 01:06:02,045 David did all the lighting onstage 1358 01:06:02,088 --> 01:06:04,134 as the show rolled. 1359 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:07,006 Lights from the right, lights from the left, 1360 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,966 and with a fill-in from the bottom. 1361 01:06:10,009 --> 01:06:14,057 This pose is essentially a cue to his lighting director 1362 01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:17,321 that when the hand went up, 1363 01:06:17,364 --> 01:06:19,062 the lights went down. 1364 01:06:20,628 --> 01:06:23,196 - I didn't really embrace him fully 1365 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,417 until Station to Station, which I loved, 1366 01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:28,114 and then Low, really. 1367 01:06:29,333 --> 01:06:32,031 So, it was great working with him after that, 1368 01:06:32,075 --> 01:06:34,381 'cause I could ask him lots of questions. 1369 01:06:34,425 --> 01:06:38,385 He was a superstar, then went kind of more left. 1370 01:06:38,429 --> 01:06:40,039 And when he went to Berlin, 1371 01:06:40,083 --> 01:06:43,869 things like Low, what people saw as really experimental, 1372 01:06:43,912 --> 01:06:46,437 they were pop songs, but they were presented 1373 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,917 in kind of a left-field way. 1374 01:06:48,961 --> 01:06:51,311 And that album wasn't really accepted, 1375 01:06:51,355 --> 01:06:54,227 but it was probably my favorite. 1376 01:06:54,271 --> 01:06:56,055 - For someone who claims not to be that good a musician, 1377 01:06:56,099 --> 01:06:59,537 why are you coming back to perform onstage? 1378 01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:01,147 Or are you a better musician, in fact, 1379 01:07:01,191 --> 01:07:02,801 than you would admit? 1380 01:07:02,844 --> 01:07:05,282 - I can't link those two parts. 1381 01:07:05,325 --> 01:07:07,371 If I'm not that good a musician, 1382 01:07:07,414 --> 01:07:08,198 why am I coming back? 1383 01:07:08,241 --> 01:07:10,113 - [Russell] Yes, yes. 1384 01:07:15,422 --> 01:07:16,989 - Well, coming back's got nothing to do 1385 01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:18,817 with being a musician. 1386 01:07:20,732 --> 01:07:22,299 - Do you think you're a better musician 1387 01:07:22,342 --> 01:07:24,083 after two years away from it? - [David] I don't say 1388 01:07:24,127 --> 01:07:25,519 anything on stage. 1389 01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:28,261 I'm a good performer 1390 01:07:30,698 --> 01:07:32,961 and I'm a good singer. 1391 01:07:33,005 --> 01:07:35,181 That has nothing to do with being a musician. 1392 01:07:35,225 --> 01:07:36,313 Does it? 1393 01:07:40,099 --> 01:07:41,709 - [Voiceover] The cocaine-fueled paranoia 1394 01:07:41,753 --> 01:07:43,581 that seeped through Station to Station 1395 01:07:43,624 --> 01:07:47,411 reflected Bowie's increasingly troubled state of mind, 1396 01:07:47,454 --> 01:07:50,109 exacerbated by legal and financial battles 1397 01:07:50,153 --> 01:07:51,893 with former managers. 1398 01:07:53,156 --> 01:07:54,983 - [Dana] He'd been through quite a lot of managers, 1399 01:07:55,027 --> 01:07:56,855 or damagers, we used to call them. 1400 01:07:56,898 --> 01:07:58,378 And he always said, "One day I know I'll find 1401 01:07:58,422 --> 01:07:59,858 "the right manager." 1402 01:07:59,901 --> 01:08:01,425 And the right man was Tony Defries 1403 01:08:01,468 --> 01:08:03,514 who had this company called main man. 1404 01:08:03,557 --> 01:08:05,342 - No one managed really Bowie's career. 1405 01:08:05,385 --> 01:08:08,127 He managed his own career. 1406 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:12,131 Where Defries was smart, he would just stand in-between 1407 01:08:12,175 --> 01:08:16,657 Bowie and anybody who wanted to talk to him and say, "No." 1408 01:08:16,701 --> 01:08:18,703 And perpetuate the diva. 1409 01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:21,488 - [Voiceover] Tony Defries represented Bowie 1410 01:08:21,532 --> 01:08:24,491 through his rise to stardom, reputedly making 1411 01:08:24,535 --> 01:08:27,799 more money from deals than Bowie himself. 1412 01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:29,975 - He always said, "Right, in order to be successful, 1413 01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:31,498 "you must go to America." 1414 01:08:31,542 --> 01:08:35,154 So, he uprooted all of us to go and live in New York. 1415 01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:36,286 - They were inclined to have limousines 1416 01:08:36,329 --> 01:08:38,070 on-hand 24 hours a day. 1417 01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:40,594 They were inclined to charge the company 1418 01:08:40,638 --> 01:08:43,249 various subsidies he's going to make tea with. 1419 01:08:43,293 --> 01:08:46,905 - main man was five years of total madness, 1420 01:08:46,948 --> 01:08:48,820 glory, fantastic times. 1421 01:08:50,256 --> 01:08:53,390 Defries had said that "Everyone has to have limos, 1422 01:08:53,433 --> 01:08:55,827 "24 seven limos, a secretary." 1423 01:08:57,089 --> 01:08:58,830 I had a secretary who was fantastic. 1424 01:08:58,873 --> 01:09:00,745 We all had assistants. 1425 01:09:00,788 --> 01:09:03,835 The offices were on Park Avenue. 1426 01:09:03,878 --> 01:09:06,359 He'd got a grand piano shipped in. 1427 01:09:06,403 --> 01:09:09,275 And there were many nights Mick, as in Jagger, 1428 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,321 who was staying the The Plaza around the corner 1429 01:09:11,364 --> 01:09:14,237 would turn up and we'd all be hanging out till the morning. 1430 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,500 At one point, there were about 40 staff. 1431 01:09:16,543 --> 01:09:18,197 I don't think David ever questioned 1432 01:09:18,241 --> 01:09:19,764 where the money came from. 1433 01:09:19,807 --> 01:09:24,029 - The stage had to be whatever it was, 60 feet wide. 1434 01:09:25,683 --> 01:09:29,121 David Bowie would have it measured 1435 01:09:29,165 --> 01:09:30,601 and say, "It's three feet short. 1436 01:09:30,644 --> 01:09:32,124 "I can't go on." 1437 01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,692 And Tony would say, he wouldn't say that was stupid. 1438 01:09:34,735 --> 01:09:36,868 Tony would say, "Oh, three feet short, 1439 01:09:36,911 --> 01:09:39,131 "we're not going on." 1440 01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:42,178 And that's how it progressed really. 1441 01:09:43,396 --> 01:09:46,225 - So, David was just A, having a way every time 1442 01:09:46,269 --> 01:09:48,227 which didn't just mean partying actually. 1443 01:09:48,271 --> 01:09:51,970 It meant working and doing what he wanted to do 1444 01:09:52,013 --> 01:09:53,450 which was creating music. 1445 01:09:53,493 --> 01:09:55,843 Nobody thought about who was paying the bills. 1446 01:09:55,887 --> 01:09:57,105 [speaker mumbles] 1447 01:09:57,149 --> 01:09:58,324 - At one point, he said, "I can't handle 1448 01:09:58,368 --> 01:10:00,413 "the madness and David." 1449 01:10:00,457 --> 01:10:02,110 And I remember he had to book a telephone call 1450 01:10:02,154 --> 01:10:03,982 to break the whole contract up. 1451 01:10:04,025 --> 01:10:05,897 And it was only a thing because suddenly 1452 01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:07,942 David was getting wise to the fact 1453 01:10:07,986 --> 01:10:09,814 that he'd been working all these years. 1454 01:10:09,857 --> 01:10:11,250 He had five number ones. 1455 01:10:11,294 --> 01:10:13,252 He didn't actually have any money. 1456 01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:15,080 But, the reason was a lot of the money 1457 01:10:15,123 --> 01:10:17,604 that was coming in was fueling the costs 1458 01:10:17,648 --> 01:10:19,389 of running main man. 1459 01:10:19,432 --> 01:10:22,479 - At the time that they went off to America, 1460 01:10:22,522 --> 01:10:24,655 I was in for 75,000, as I recall, 1461 01:10:24,698 --> 01:10:27,484 75,000 pounds of my own money. 1462 01:10:27,527 --> 01:10:30,922 So, I said, "Look, for the next few years, 1463 01:10:32,097 --> 01:10:34,447 "you give me say half a million pounds." 1464 01:10:34,491 --> 01:10:36,710 You know, "Ha, ha, half a million pounds 1465 01:10:36,754 --> 01:10:38,799 "is more money than there was in the world." 1466 01:10:38,843 --> 01:10:43,500 And a year or so later, they sent me a balancing check, 1467 01:10:43,543 --> 01:10:44,631 and it was fine. 1468 01:10:44,675 --> 01:10:46,416 I was very happy. 1469 01:10:46,459 --> 01:10:48,069 - Musicians were just so grateful to, 1470 01:10:48,113 --> 01:10:51,159 "Sign here, you're going to get every musician you want. 1471 01:10:51,203 --> 01:10:53,031 "You're going to fly here and there. 1472 01:10:53,074 --> 01:10:54,511 "You're going to gigs. 1473 01:10:54,554 --> 01:10:56,339 "You're going on a great tour bus." 1474 01:10:56,382 --> 01:10:58,558 And suddenly, everything like the house of cards 1475 01:10:58,602 --> 01:11:00,299 came crashing down. 1476 01:11:01,561 --> 01:11:03,694 - He and Defries are falling out big time, 1477 01:11:03,737 --> 01:11:07,480 and RCA Records were not getting any product from David. 1478 01:11:07,524 --> 01:11:10,744 And we organized a summit in Los Angeles. 1479 01:11:12,398 --> 01:11:14,313 RCA paid for it. 1480 01:11:14,357 --> 01:11:17,751 This huge suite at the Century Plaza Hotel. 1481 01:11:17,795 --> 01:11:20,928 Berry had a suite with his people. 1482 01:11:20,972 --> 01:11:22,321 Defries had a suite. 1483 01:11:22,365 --> 01:11:25,716 I was with RCA, and it was like Kissinger 1484 01:11:25,759 --> 01:11:27,283 and the Vietnam Conference. 1485 01:11:27,326 --> 01:11:28,806 It was just silly. 1486 01:11:28,849 --> 01:11:30,068 I called them in. 1487 01:11:30,111 --> 01:11:32,505 I said, "All you other guys did for me." 1488 01:11:32,549 --> 01:11:34,202 It was only money. 1489 01:11:35,639 --> 01:11:37,336 And you're really being stupid because 1490 01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:41,645 "you're both intractable and if you both give a little bit, 1491 01:11:41,688 --> 01:11:43,777 "there's a chance you can resolve this. 1492 01:11:43,821 --> 01:11:46,476 "And if not, no records are going to go out." 1493 01:11:46,519 --> 01:11:49,261 And Demartin came out and said to me, 1494 01:11:49,305 --> 01:11:50,567 "Look, this is very embarrassing. 1495 01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:53,439 "David would like to sign a piece of paper 1496 01:11:53,483 --> 01:11:57,225 "saying you're not getting anything out of this." 1497 01:11:57,269 --> 01:12:01,360 And I said, "You tell David to go [beep] himself." 1498 01:12:01,404 --> 01:12:03,319 - I think at that point, David decided 1499 01:12:03,362 --> 01:12:05,321 to become a businessman. 1500 01:12:05,364 --> 01:12:09,150 - In later years, when I tried to contact him, 1501 01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:13,938 I couldn't get him. 1502 01:12:13,981 --> 01:12:16,244 I couldn't get him, didn't want to know. 1503 01:12:16,288 --> 01:12:20,771 [dramatic instrumental music] 1504 01:12:20,814 --> 01:12:23,164 [applause] 1505 01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:28,692 - [Voiceover] David Bowie will be remembered 1506 01:12:28,735 --> 01:12:31,434 for his astounding musical career, 1507 01:12:31,477 --> 01:12:35,307 but he pushed financial as well as musical boundaries. 1508 01:12:35,351 --> 01:12:36,134 - Gosh. 1509 01:12:37,744 --> 01:12:41,313 - A lot of artists don't even want to get involved 1510 01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:42,880 on the business side of things, 1511 01:12:42,923 --> 01:12:46,144 but David did, and successfully. 1512 01:12:46,187 --> 01:12:50,366 - I do the art and then I try and sell it. [laughs] 1513 01:12:50,409 --> 01:12:52,803 It's not much more complicated than that really. 1514 01:12:52,846 --> 01:12:55,414 But, while I'm working on the art itself, 1515 01:12:55,458 --> 01:12:57,416 I am 100% artist. 1516 01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:59,331 And when I'm trying to sell it, 1517 01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:02,595 believe me, I'm 100% businessman. 1518 01:13:02,639 --> 01:13:07,208 - [Bob] By doing so, reinforced the general impression 1519 01:13:07,252 --> 01:13:09,428 of himself as being a visionary. 1520 01:13:09,472 --> 01:13:12,518 That somehow he was able to see 1521 01:13:12,562 --> 01:13:14,433 what was going to happen next, 1522 01:13:14,477 --> 01:13:16,435 but before anybody else did. 1523 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,045 - I wouldn't give you a comment on Napster. 1524 01:13:18,089 --> 01:13:19,656 I think it's very hard for artists 1525 01:13:19,699 --> 01:13:24,269 to have reached a certain level of economic means 1526 01:13:24,312 --> 01:13:26,097 to be take seriously when they start talking 1527 01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:28,447 about copyright issues and Napster. 1528 01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:30,623 I'll give you a scenario though. 1529 01:13:30,667 --> 01:13:33,147 Around six months time, record companies 1530 01:13:33,191 --> 01:13:35,759 will have banded together in some kind of club. 1531 01:13:35,802 --> 01:13:38,152 All the copyright difficulties with Napster 1532 01:13:38,196 --> 01:13:39,806 would have been solved just in time 1533 01:13:39,850 --> 01:13:41,765 for them to put in a fee so people have 1534 01:13:41,808 --> 01:13:43,375 to pay to use the site, 1535 01:13:43,419 --> 01:13:45,464 and then competition will spring up everywhere, 1536 01:13:45,508 --> 01:13:48,119 and then Napster will be one of many. 1537 01:13:48,162 --> 01:13:50,121 - He was very intelligent, 1538 01:13:50,164 --> 01:13:52,993 and he was very, very savvy. 1539 01:13:53,037 --> 01:13:54,517 - The other thing that he did 1540 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,476 that was way ahead of everybody else was the Bowie Bonds. 1541 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,087 - [Voiceover] In 1997, Bowie made history 1542 01:14:00,131 --> 01:14:03,439 by launching Bowie Bonds, which were as groundbreaking 1543 01:14:03,482 --> 01:14:04,570 as his music. 1544 01:14:06,354 --> 01:14:07,443 - [Paul] He was the first artist 1545 01:14:07,486 --> 01:14:09,575 to securitize his back catalog, 1546 01:14:09,619 --> 01:14:11,359 and these were 10-year bonds. 1547 01:14:11,403 --> 01:14:14,101 - He was saying, "Invest in me, 1548 01:14:14,145 --> 01:14:15,712 "and over a long period of time, 1549 01:14:15,755 --> 01:14:18,541 "you'll get the benefit by getting royalties back 1550 01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:21,108 "from work not written yet." 1551 01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,632 - [Voiceover] You've gone on with your plans to go public? 1552 01:14:22,675 --> 01:14:24,285 - Yes, we needed money. 1553 01:14:24,329 --> 01:14:26,549 - Evan Davis had jokingly said 1554 01:14:26,592 --> 01:14:28,899 after the financial collapse of 2008, 1555 01:14:28,942 --> 01:14:30,509 "Well, we should blame David Bowie." 1556 01:14:30,553 --> 01:14:32,555 But, we did make a profit after 10 years 1557 01:14:32,598 --> 01:14:34,774 on the Bowie Bonds. 1558 01:14:34,818 --> 01:14:37,255 Our society as a whole did not, 1559 01:14:37,298 --> 01:14:39,649 and we had the financial collapse. 1560 01:14:39,692 --> 01:14:40,606 - I'm watching this thing. 1561 01:14:40,650 --> 01:14:42,652 It's like it's crazy. 1562 01:14:42,695 --> 01:14:44,654 It's just crazy out there. 1563 01:14:44,697 --> 01:14:48,658 Most industries are a kind of in decline at the moment. 1564 01:14:48,701 --> 01:14:49,920 They really are. 1565 01:14:49,963 --> 01:14:52,270 Industries are having a really bad time, 1566 01:14:52,313 --> 01:14:56,535 but the main differences with price slashing like this 1567 01:14:57,710 --> 01:14:59,669 the record industry's so different 1568 01:14:59,712 --> 01:15:01,671 because they're the only industry 1569 01:15:01,714 --> 01:15:02,889 where their products is actually 1570 01:15:02,933 --> 01:15:06,284 also available for free. [laughs] 1571 01:15:06,327 --> 01:15:08,547 As competition to the price-slashing, 1572 01:15:08,591 --> 01:15:11,507 so it's a really peculiar situation. 1573 01:15:17,687 --> 01:15:19,297 - [Voiceover] Throughout his career, 1574 01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:21,604 Bowie remained creativity restless 1575 01:15:21,647 --> 01:15:24,128 and constantly innovative. 1576 01:15:24,171 --> 01:15:27,653 [easygoing guitar music] 1577 01:15:30,656 --> 01:15:33,398 - So, I've only got five words. 1578 01:15:36,444 --> 01:15:37,315 That was five. 1579 01:15:37,358 --> 01:15:39,665 [laughter] 1580 01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:42,146 Four more there. 1581 01:15:43,930 --> 01:15:45,105 That's three. 1582 01:15:45,149 --> 01:15:48,021 [laughter] 1583 01:15:48,065 --> 01:15:48,848 Two. 1584 01:15:50,981 --> 01:15:52,548 - [Voiceover] During the mid-'70s, 1585 01:15:52,591 --> 01:15:56,726 he transformed again in another unexpected career swerve. 1586 01:15:56,769 --> 01:15:58,336 He released Young Americans. 1587 01:15:58,379 --> 01:16:01,557 [cheers and applause] 1588 01:16:02,732 --> 01:16:05,648 - He released 15 albums in the 1970s. 1589 01:16:07,867 --> 01:16:10,827 So, blink and you missed it. 1590 01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:12,785 The one that made Bowie a mainstream figure 1591 01:16:12,829 --> 01:16:15,222 in the United States was Fame 1592 01:16:15,266 --> 01:16:17,616 which was an accident. 1593 01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:19,792 - He's in New York doing Madison Square Garden. 1594 01:16:19,836 --> 01:16:24,014 He called John Lennon up, said, "What's happening, John? 1595 01:16:24,057 --> 01:16:24,841 "I'm down the street here. 1596 01:16:24,884 --> 01:16:26,451 "Why don't you come in?" 1597 01:16:26,494 --> 01:16:27,670 John popped down to see him. 1598 01:16:27,713 --> 01:16:29,497 The guitarist, the three of them 1599 01:16:29,541 --> 01:16:31,630 were jamming on this riff that built, 1600 01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:35,721 and suddenly you've got a song called Fame 1601 01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:39,725 which catapulted David to the top of the American chart. 1602 01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:49,648 - [Voiceover] While others would have been happy 1603 01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:50,910 to stick to the soul template 1604 01:16:50,954 --> 01:16:55,132 that broke the US, Bowie would again change tack 1605 01:16:55,175 --> 01:16:57,917 and release some of the most uncompromising music 1606 01:16:57,961 --> 01:17:02,705 of his career, endlessly manipulating his public identity. 1607 01:17:02,748 --> 01:17:06,447 The weird aura around him was boosted in 1976 1608 01:17:06,491 --> 01:17:09,581 when he was cast as a stranded alien. 1609 01:17:12,889 --> 01:17:14,847 - [Russell] Now, you've finished making the film 1610 01:17:14,891 --> 01:17:17,067 called The Man Who Came to Earth. 1611 01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:18,372 - [David] Fell to Earth. 1612 01:17:18,416 --> 01:17:20,287 - Fell to Earth, I beg your pardon. 1613 01:17:20,331 --> 01:17:22,768 It's not an easy film to explain to people 1614 01:17:22,812 --> 01:17:26,685 who haven't seen it, and it's not yet finished, is it? 1615 01:17:26,729 --> 01:17:29,514 - It's finished in visual. 1616 01:17:29,557 --> 01:17:30,820 It's not finished in sound. 1617 01:17:30,863 --> 01:17:33,431 I've got to record the sound. 1618 01:17:34,301 --> 01:17:35,607 We've written a lot of it. 1619 01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:37,696 It's, I tell you, all I can tell you 1620 01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:41,178 is it's a love story more than anything else. 1621 01:17:41,221 --> 01:17:43,702 It's very, very sad, very romantic. 1622 01:17:43,746 --> 01:17:47,227 It brought a lump to my throat watching it. 1623 01:17:48,446 --> 01:17:51,188 And it's been a gas working on it. 1624 01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:56,410 - [Bob] The leading criteria of his professional career, 1625 01:17:56,454 --> 01:17:58,282 I think, was first the music. 1626 01:17:58,325 --> 01:18:01,198 - Tony Visconti said you've "put everything you had into it" 1627 01:18:01,241 --> 01:18:04,505 and you were totally professional as an actor. 1628 01:18:04,549 --> 01:18:05,942 - Cool. 1629 01:18:05,985 --> 01:18:06,986 - [Woman] Do you think that's a compliment? 1630 01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:09,336 - Yes, it is, very much so. 1631 01:18:09,380 --> 01:18:11,730 - [Woman] Do you see acting taking over more and more 1632 01:18:11,774 --> 01:18:13,776 of your time? - [David] No, directing maybe. 1633 01:18:13,819 --> 01:18:16,909 Let's behind that thing. - [Woman] Yes. 1634 01:18:16,953 --> 01:18:19,869 - [Voiceover] Bowie continued to progress as an actor 1635 01:18:19,912 --> 01:18:23,002 receiving strong reviews for the 1980 stage role 1636 01:18:23,046 --> 01:18:25,309 as John Merrick in the Broadway production 1637 01:18:25,352 --> 01:18:27,877 of the Elephant Man. 1638 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,184 - Theater is something I enjoy very much. 1639 01:18:31,228 --> 01:18:32,795 But, I don't think I can generalize 1640 01:18:32,838 --> 01:18:35,972 and say theater is dishonest. [laughs] 1641 01:18:36,015 --> 01:18:38,539 I think theater tells a lot of truths. 1642 01:18:38,583 --> 01:18:40,759 It's just a different way of doing things. 1643 01:18:40,803 --> 01:18:44,720 I still like the idea of doing a theatrical thing, 1644 01:18:44,763 --> 01:18:48,941 and it doesn't preclude me maybe doing one in the future. 1645 01:18:48,985 --> 01:18:53,424 But, right now, I'm very happy just being a singer. 1646 01:18:53,467 --> 01:18:55,078 - [Voiceover] For the remainder of his career, 1647 01:18:55,121 --> 01:18:56,427 Bowie confined himself 1648 01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:59,822 to occasional supporting roles and cameos. 1649 01:19:01,084 --> 01:19:02,215 - We were asked to produce the music 1650 01:19:02,259 --> 01:19:03,782 for Absolute Beginnners. 1651 01:19:03,826 --> 01:19:06,916 This is the bloke who I thought was the best producer 1652 01:19:06,959 --> 01:19:10,310 in the world, and I'm asked to produce him. 1653 01:19:10,354 --> 01:19:13,836 It was a strange, scary experience to begin with. 1654 01:19:13,879 --> 01:19:16,490 We were supposed to meet at the James' Club, 1655 01:19:16,534 --> 01:19:19,276 and Al and myself were quite scared 1656 01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:20,886 'cause we weren't used to being seen 1657 01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:22,845 with rock royalty like that. 1658 01:19:22,888 --> 01:19:24,760 It was all kind of quite surreal. 1659 01:19:24,803 --> 01:19:27,458 Then, he played us the demo, which was amazing, 1660 01:19:27,501 --> 01:19:28,720 of Absolute Beginners. 1661 01:19:28,764 --> 01:19:30,809 He could have put that out. 1662 01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:33,029 So, I kind of was concerned, 1663 01:19:33,072 --> 01:19:34,987 and I think David was concerned. 1664 01:19:35,031 --> 01:19:36,946 It was like, "How are we going to better the demo?" 1665 01:19:36,989 --> 01:19:39,949 But, he had his own sense of criticism. 1666 01:19:39,992 --> 01:19:41,167 He was fun to work with, 1667 01:19:41,211 --> 01:19:43,517 or you had so much respect, 1668 01:19:44,344 --> 01:19:45,824 so you worked hard. 1669 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,915 You concentrated all the time, 1670 01:19:49,959 --> 01:19:52,004 and things got done pretty quickly. 1671 01:19:52,048 --> 01:19:54,964 He was a very nice guy. 1672 01:19:55,007 --> 01:19:56,835 I had one of those relationships 1673 01:19:56,879 --> 01:19:59,751 which is very music busy. 1674 01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:01,927 You felt like you were friends, 1675 01:20:01,971 --> 01:20:04,103 but I think there was only a few people 1676 01:20:04,147 --> 01:20:07,846 who really knew what he was completely like. 1677 01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:10,022 And he could converse about anything, 1678 01:20:10,066 --> 01:20:13,721 and he was a very attractive person. 1679 01:20:13,765 --> 01:20:17,900 Powerful, but without showing off his power. 1680 01:20:17,943 --> 01:20:20,946 - I've got the cheek of the devil. 1681 01:20:29,259 --> 01:20:31,348 - [Voiceover] By the end of 1976, 1682 01:20:31,391 --> 01:20:34,307 Bowie had taken up residence in Berlin 1683 01:20:34,351 --> 01:20:38,224 accompanied by sometime collaborator, Iggy Pop. 1684 01:20:40,923 --> 01:20:44,448 - He called me up in New York in like November, 1685 01:20:44,491 --> 01:20:46,711 and said, "Hey, why don't you come over. 1686 01:20:46,754 --> 01:20:48,147 "I've got these demos I'm playing." 1687 01:20:48,191 --> 01:20:49,845 I said, "Great, I'll bring my demos." 1688 01:20:49,888 --> 01:20:52,064 And we were playing demos and he started listening 1689 01:20:52,108 --> 01:20:54,893 and went, "Mm, I like that." 1690 01:20:54,937 --> 01:20:57,678 And said, "We could do this. 1691 01:20:57,722 --> 01:20:59,376 "I could come in and write some stuff." 1692 01:20:59,419 --> 01:21:01,900 We didn't use anybody to kind of drive us around. 1693 01:21:01,944 --> 01:21:02,901 None of that. 1694 01:21:02,945 --> 01:21:04,294 It was all right out. 1695 01:21:04,337 --> 01:21:05,643 - [Voiceover] David Bowie was a roadie as well? 1696 01:21:05,686 --> 01:21:07,079 - Both of us, yeah, yeah. 1697 01:21:07,123 --> 01:21:09,908 The both of us also had helped having 1698 01:21:09,952 --> 01:21:13,607 producers who were both experienced 1699 01:21:13,651 --> 01:21:15,305 at getting things on the radio. 1700 01:21:15,348 --> 01:21:18,003 And yes, yes, I want my stuff on the radio. 1701 01:21:18,047 --> 01:21:18,917 Yes! 1702 01:21:18,961 --> 01:21:20,919 I deserve it, and I want it, 1703 01:21:20,963 --> 01:21:23,182 and I'm going to get it. 1704 01:21:23,226 --> 01:21:24,880 - I still have very fond memories of Berlin. 1705 01:21:24,923 --> 01:21:26,142 - [Voiceover] A bit violent, isn't it though? 1706 01:21:26,185 --> 01:21:27,360 - [David] Yeah. 1707 01:21:27,404 --> 01:21:28,709 - [Voiceover] Did that worry you at all? 1708 01:21:28,753 --> 01:21:30,059 - I think towards the end, it was something 1709 01:21:30,102 --> 01:21:33,976 that I felt I didn't really want any part 1710 01:21:34,019 --> 01:21:35,847 in my life too much. 1711 01:21:35,891 --> 01:21:37,414 It was getting more violent. 1712 01:21:37,457 --> 01:21:40,156 - What he did successfully in the 1970s 1713 01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,595 was so impressive because he gave Mott the Hopple 1714 01:21:44,638 --> 01:21:47,815 All the Young Dudes, which he produced. 1715 01:21:47,859 --> 01:21:50,601 He produced Lou Reed, Walk on the Wild Side, 1716 01:21:50,644 --> 01:21:53,865 and then, very impressively, Iggy Pop. 1717 01:21:55,562 --> 01:21:57,042 The Passenger is probably 1718 01:21:57,086 --> 01:21:58,914 the best known song from that period. 1719 01:21:58,957 --> 01:22:01,394 - [Voiceover] During this intensely creative period, 1720 01:22:01,438 --> 01:22:04,049 Bowie released three classic albums, 1721 01:22:04,093 --> 01:22:06,095 Lodger, Low and Heroes. 1722 01:22:07,096 --> 01:22:10,012 - Heroes isn't an album about Berlin, 1723 01:22:10,055 --> 01:22:11,578 but it reflects. 1724 01:22:11,622 --> 01:22:14,755 There a resonance of Berlin about the album Heroes 1725 01:22:14,799 --> 01:22:16,148 because that's where it was written. 1726 01:22:16,192 --> 01:22:18,150 And you can kind of feel that that's 1727 01:22:18,194 --> 01:22:19,804 the city is was written in. 1728 01:22:19,847 --> 01:22:21,458 - [Voiceover] In-between sessions, Bowie found time 1729 01:22:21,501 --> 01:22:25,941 to feature as a keyboard player on Iggy Pop's Idiot tour. 1730 01:22:25,984 --> 01:22:28,378 - I used to go some of the gigs on the road, 1731 01:22:28,421 --> 01:22:30,554 but, of course, David didn't like to fly. 1732 01:22:30,597 --> 01:22:31,990 He had this fear of flying. 1733 01:22:32,034 --> 01:22:34,384 Most people would get to a hotel after the gig 1734 01:22:34,427 --> 01:22:35,951 and fly the next day. 1735 01:22:35,994 --> 01:22:38,214 He would go straight to his huge limo 1736 01:22:38,257 --> 01:22:40,999 with a big Mack driver and go for hundreds of miles 1737 01:22:41,043 --> 01:22:43,567 across America sitting kind of slumped 1738 01:22:43,610 --> 01:22:45,090 in the back of the seat. 1739 01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:46,526 And somebody would always have to go with him. 1740 01:22:46,570 --> 01:22:48,702 I went a few times with him in the car, 1741 01:22:48,746 --> 01:22:51,009 and he, sleep wasn't really on his mind. 1742 01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:53,403 He got so drained, so tired, 1743 01:22:53,446 --> 01:22:57,276 that it was a miracle that he actually finished the show. 1744 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,150 [solemn instrumental music] 1745 01:23:02,586 --> 01:23:05,110 - [Voiceover] Meanwhile, Bowie's relationship with Angie 1746 01:23:05,154 --> 01:23:09,201 had been disintegrating and they would divorce in 1980. 1747 01:23:09,245 --> 01:23:13,162 - It was excruciatingly public, very undignified. 1748 01:23:13,205 --> 01:23:15,077 - It's the worst I've ever felt in my life, 1749 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,036 and it's totally and utterly thanks 1750 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,169 to the great enthusiastic 1751 01:23:24,303 --> 01:23:26,653 behavior of Corinne Schwab 1752 01:23:26,697 --> 01:23:30,135 and David Bowie being a total and utter coward. 1753 01:23:30,179 --> 01:23:34,139 A skank coward because he couldn't even talk to me. 1754 01:23:35,662 --> 01:23:38,317 I felt like I lived at the bottom of a slave ship 1755 01:23:38,361 --> 01:23:41,190 with the rats and the extra men. 1756 01:23:53,332 --> 01:23:57,162 [gentle instrumental music] 1757 01:23:58,598 --> 01:24:01,079 - [Voiceover] After a decade as a major cult figure, 1758 01:24:01,123 --> 01:24:05,344 Bowie's stardom reached new heights in 1983 1759 01:24:05,388 --> 01:24:08,869 with the worldwide success of Let's Dance. 1760 01:24:08,913 --> 01:24:12,090 This was to be the most commercially successful period 1761 01:24:12,134 --> 01:24:14,266 of his career, and introduced him 1762 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:16,268 to a whole new generation. 1763 01:24:17,835 --> 01:24:19,402 - [Voiceover] Is the record on a whole a dance record? 1764 01:24:19,445 --> 01:24:22,144 - Dance is so diversified now. 1765 01:24:22,187 --> 01:24:23,623 There's so many styles of dancing. 1766 01:24:23,667 --> 01:24:25,060 - [Voiceover] A lot of different dances to do on it? 1767 01:24:25,103 --> 01:24:27,192 - Absolutely, yeah, yeah. [laughs] 1768 01:24:27,236 --> 01:24:31,544 If you dance slow, there's a slow track on there. 1769 01:24:31,588 --> 01:24:33,459 - There have been rumors 1770 01:24:33,503 --> 01:24:35,635 that this might be the last hit tour. 1771 01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:37,289 Would you care to stem those? 1772 01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:39,161 - I doubt that. 1773 01:24:39,204 --> 01:24:41,119 I can't see that I'd be touring next year again, 1774 01:24:41,163 --> 01:24:45,080 but I've got no real feeling about stopping touring. 1775 01:24:46,690 --> 01:24:50,346 If this goes as happily as I want it to go, 1776 01:24:50,389 --> 01:24:53,000 then it would, I'd probably tour 1777 01:24:54,176 --> 01:24:56,787 a lot more frequently than I have. 1778 01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:58,267 - [Voiceover] Let's Dance propelled him 1779 01:24:58,310 --> 01:25:02,793 into that super-stardom, shopping mall sort of pop star. 1780 01:25:02,836 --> 01:25:04,664 - [Paul] It was a whole different phase for him. 1781 01:25:04,708 --> 01:25:07,145 That was the phase where American radio loved him. 1782 01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:09,452 - [Bob] In retrospect, it's interesting to see David 1783 01:25:09,495 --> 01:25:12,542 say that probably that time in the early '80s, 1784 01:25:12,585 --> 01:25:14,500 when he was having those massive hit, 1785 01:25:14,544 --> 01:25:17,199 Let's Dance, Shiny Gun, was probably 1786 01:25:17,242 --> 01:25:20,158 the least fulfilling time he felt 1787 01:25:21,203 --> 01:25:23,640 in his whole musical career. 1788 01:25:23,683 --> 01:25:26,817 - I've had big hit with albums I really despise really. 1789 01:25:26,860 --> 01:25:30,516 Albums I don't like, and they've done really, really well. 1790 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,954 And it always has to be about material on the album 1791 01:25:33,998 --> 01:25:37,349 and whether, in hindsight, and pretty fast hindsight. 1792 01:25:37,393 --> 01:25:39,395 Hindsight within like a month or two 1793 01:25:39,438 --> 01:25:41,397 of having made the album. 1794 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:42,659 If I can really look at it and say, 1795 01:25:42,702 --> 01:25:44,661 "This was definitely the very best kind of work 1796 01:25:44,704 --> 01:25:48,317 "I could've done at that particular time." 1797 01:25:51,233 --> 01:25:54,671 [steady rhythmic music] 1798 01:25:56,716 --> 01:25:59,241 - [Voiceover] 1988 brought a new venture, 1799 01:25:59,284 --> 01:26:02,635 and what many fans perceived as a new low, 1800 01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:06,204 Bowie's rock band Tin Machine garnered mixed reviews. 1801 01:26:06,248 --> 01:26:08,250 - Yeah, I had to let him sing, 1802 01:26:08,293 --> 01:26:10,295 be the singer on the first record. 1803 01:26:10,339 --> 01:26:13,516 So, now David can play a little guitar and I can sing. 1804 01:26:13,559 --> 01:26:14,952 - And a little saxophone. 1805 01:26:14,995 --> 01:26:15,866 - And some saxophone 1806 01:26:15,909 --> 01:26:16,649 - This big. 1807 01:26:16,693 --> 01:26:18,216 - Know what I mean? 1808 01:26:18,260 --> 01:26:20,392 - There were two reasons why the critics 1809 01:26:20,436 --> 01:26:21,611 didn't like Tin Machine. 1810 01:26:21,654 --> 01:26:24,266 One, 'cause the record was not very good. 1811 01:26:24,309 --> 01:26:27,182 Second, the concept of a major artist 1812 01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:31,751 trying to be the equal of people 1813 01:26:33,405 --> 01:26:35,755 who were not major artists. 1814 01:26:37,453 --> 01:26:39,150 - To me, the first Tin Machine album 1815 01:26:39,194 --> 01:26:40,499 was really good. 1816 01:26:40,543 --> 01:26:42,284 We were invited along to do the sound 1817 01:26:42,327 --> 01:26:44,721 for the one night in Corbin. 1818 01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:46,723 And I thought it was really good. 1819 01:26:46,766 --> 01:26:48,420 I didn't understand actually 1820 01:26:48,464 --> 01:26:50,422 what the backlash was all about 1821 01:26:50,466 --> 01:26:54,731 because amazing band, amazing rhythm section, 1822 01:26:54,774 --> 01:26:57,386 and a couple of really good songs. 1823 01:26:57,429 --> 01:27:01,172 - With David Bowie, he had to be David Bowie. 1824 01:27:01,216 --> 01:27:03,479 People did not want him to be part 1825 01:27:03,522 --> 01:27:04,915 of something else. 1826 01:27:06,438 --> 01:27:09,311 [electronic music] 1827 01:27:13,663 --> 01:27:15,447 - [Voiceover] After dissolving Tin Machine, 1828 01:27:15,491 --> 01:27:18,233 Bowie married Somalian model Iman, 1829 01:27:18,276 --> 01:27:20,931 who he had met 18 months earlier. 1830 01:27:21,801 --> 01:27:23,368 - I'm 47 years old. 1831 01:27:23,412 --> 01:27:25,849 My stars change on a constant basis. 1832 01:27:25,892 --> 01:27:28,112 No wonder I married David Bowie. 1833 01:27:28,155 --> 01:27:33,030 We both believe in change. [laughs] 1834 01:27:33,073 --> 01:27:35,337 - [Voiceover] The couple settled in New York, 1835 01:27:35,380 --> 01:27:39,341 and in August 2000, they had a daughter, Alexandria Jones. 1836 01:27:44,389 --> 01:27:46,130 - I've gotten so used to the luxury 1837 01:27:46,173 --> 01:27:48,828 of living anonymously, and my family. 1838 01:27:48,872 --> 01:27:51,309 And it is how we live in New York. 1839 01:27:51,353 --> 01:27:54,051 Nobody ever bothers you over there. 1840 01:27:54,094 --> 01:27:57,228 It really, unless you're a damn fool 1841 01:27:57,272 --> 01:28:00,057 and want to go live in LA or something. 1842 01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:00,884 And good luck to you. 1843 01:28:00,927 --> 01:28:02,538 You deserve it. 1844 01:28:02,581 --> 01:28:06,368 If you want, in New York it's not a kind of paparazzi haven. 1845 01:28:09,327 --> 01:28:10,415 - [Voiceover] So, you can walk-- 1846 01:28:10,459 --> 01:28:11,634 - You can have a real life. 1847 01:28:11,677 --> 01:28:13,331 [laughs] Yeah, sorry but it's like you're 1848 01:28:13,375 --> 01:28:15,855 not just a product of the newspapers over there. 1849 01:28:15,899 --> 01:28:18,423 You can just get on with things, 1850 01:28:18,467 --> 01:28:19,859 and I like that. 1851 01:28:19,903 --> 01:28:20,904 I've gotten used to it. 1852 01:28:20,947 --> 01:28:22,079 What can I say? 1853 01:28:22,122 --> 01:28:23,515 It's a laziness, I guess. 1854 01:28:23,559 --> 01:28:25,430 If I came back to Britain, I'd probably 1855 01:28:25,474 --> 01:28:29,478 not opt to live in London, but I love London really a lot. 1856 01:28:29,521 --> 01:28:31,262 It would be really difficult for me 1857 01:28:31,306 --> 01:28:34,439 to go and live in Gloucestershire or somewhere, 1858 01:28:34,483 --> 01:28:37,355 as much as a love Gloucestershire. 1859 01:28:37,399 --> 01:28:39,357 I like to be in New York City. 1860 01:28:39,401 --> 01:28:40,924 It was great to come. 1861 01:28:40,967 --> 01:28:44,536 I wanted to catch up with folks and see what's happening. 1862 01:28:44,580 --> 01:28:47,409 See what my son's up to and all that. 1863 01:28:53,806 --> 01:28:58,463 [fast paced electronic music] 1864 01:28:58,507 --> 01:29:00,291 - [Voiceover] The new start in Bowie's private life 1865 01:29:00,335 --> 01:29:02,728 triggered yet another transformation. 1866 01:29:02,772 --> 01:29:05,731 He forever ditched his other worldly persona 1867 01:29:05,775 --> 01:29:08,212 in favor of conventionality. 1868 01:29:09,735 --> 01:29:11,128 - Hello. 1869 01:29:11,171 --> 01:29:12,869 I like being where I am now very much. 1870 01:29:12,912 --> 01:29:14,261 I much prefer it. 1871 01:29:14,305 --> 01:29:17,656 I feel a lot more free about what I can do, 1872 01:29:19,223 --> 01:29:22,269 and dare I say, what I can get away with musically. 1873 01:29:22,313 --> 01:29:24,489 - What he was doing in the '90s 1874 01:29:24,533 --> 01:29:26,709 wasn't registering with the mainstream audience. 1875 01:29:26,752 --> 01:29:29,625 He was experimenting with, again, 1876 01:29:29,668 --> 01:29:32,541 new and different musical forms, 1877 01:29:32,584 --> 01:29:34,804 and they didn't quite register. 1878 01:29:34,847 --> 01:29:37,459 The albums would always come in high the first week, 1879 01:29:37,502 --> 01:29:39,504 'cause fans would buy them, and then they'd go down. 1880 01:29:39,548 --> 01:29:42,725 His main achievement in the '90s 1881 01:29:42,768 --> 01:29:44,857 were that he was a pioneer in the internet 1882 01:29:44,901 --> 01:29:48,165 with his fan service BowieNet. 1883 01:29:48,208 --> 01:29:50,036 This was, again, being ahead of the curve. 1884 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,516 It just wasn't musical. 1885 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,780 - Not many people know this, but actually, 1886 01:29:54,824 --> 01:29:57,957 I was the first artist to take computers out on the road 1887 01:29:58,001 --> 01:29:59,568 in the early, very early '80s, 1888 01:29:59,611 --> 01:30:02,571 in fact, in the Serious Moonlight tour in 1983. 1889 01:30:02,614 --> 01:30:05,138 So, we were going online then 1890 01:30:06,531 --> 01:30:10,709 delivering all facts and figures back to home base. 1891 01:30:10,753 --> 01:30:14,974 So, my experience with computers does go back a long time. 1892 01:30:21,851 --> 01:30:23,809 - [Voiceover] Bowie continued to tour and record 1893 01:30:23,853 --> 01:30:27,639 until 2003, when he released Reality, 1894 01:30:27,683 --> 01:30:31,513 his 23rd album which many assumed to be his last. 1895 01:30:33,384 --> 01:30:34,777 - [Voiceover] It's a big tour you're starting now, isn't it? 1896 01:30:34,820 --> 01:30:36,735 - Yeah, it's going to go on for months and months, 1897 01:30:36,779 --> 01:30:39,477 but I think they're up for it. 1898 01:30:39,521 --> 01:30:41,479 - [Voiceover] What do you feel right now? 1899 01:30:41,523 --> 01:30:42,785 - Pretty relaxed. 1900 01:30:44,482 --> 01:30:47,572 I enjoy the songs a lot, so I'm going to have a good time. 1901 01:30:47,616 --> 01:30:49,705 [laughs] 1902 01:30:49,748 --> 01:30:53,491 It's a struggle to understand how I'm no longer 20. 1903 01:30:53,535 --> 01:30:55,580 I don't know anybody else this has ever happened to. 1904 01:30:55,624 --> 01:30:59,889 Most people, they get to 20, then they stay 20. 1905 01:30:59,932 --> 01:31:01,456 It didn't happen for me though. 1906 01:31:01,499 --> 01:31:02,935 I just went on and on and on, 1907 01:31:02,979 --> 01:31:04,633 and suddenly, I'm 56. 1908 01:31:04,676 --> 01:31:05,808 Isn't that weird? 1909 01:31:05,851 --> 01:31:07,723 We can't wait to bring our show to you, 1910 01:31:07,766 --> 01:31:09,725 whatever that show is. 1911 01:31:09,768 --> 01:31:10,726 It'll be fun. 1912 01:31:10,769 --> 01:31:12,510 All right, see you then. 1913 01:31:13,729 --> 01:31:14,991 - He had his first heart attack. 1914 01:31:15,034 --> 01:31:17,733 That was the reason he didn't perform anymore. 1915 01:31:17,776 --> 01:31:21,519 So, the people who were closest to him 1916 01:31:21,563 --> 01:31:24,914 didn't want you to keep pestering them with questions. 1917 01:31:24,957 --> 01:31:26,437 "Oh, when's he going to do another show?" 1918 01:31:26,481 --> 01:31:30,049 They just said, "He's had heart problems. 1919 01:31:30,093 --> 01:31:32,443 "They're afraid the exertion might kill him." 1920 01:31:32,487 --> 01:31:36,273 [dramatic instrumental music] 1921 01:31:39,015 --> 01:31:40,669 - [Voiceover] But, there was more to come. 1922 01:31:40,712 --> 01:31:43,628 After a decade without a studio album, 1923 01:31:43,672 --> 01:31:46,979 Bowie reemerged in 2013 with The Next Day 1924 01:31:48,503 --> 01:31:52,463 which propelled him back into the popular consciousness. 1925 01:31:52,507 --> 01:31:54,334 - It got to number two in the Billboard 1926 01:31:54,378 --> 01:31:56,772 which was his highest career peak at that point, 1927 01:31:56,815 --> 01:31:58,643 believe it or not. 1928 01:31:58,687 --> 01:32:00,863 And that set up Blackstar. 1929 01:32:00,906 --> 01:32:02,604 - [Voiceover] Until the last, David Bowie 1930 01:32:02,647 --> 01:32:05,737 was capable of springing surprises. 1931 01:32:05,781 --> 01:32:09,045 Releasing Blackstar two days before his death 1932 01:32:09,088 --> 01:32:11,656 saw him innovating until the end. 1933 01:32:13,179 --> 01:32:14,659 - He did the ultimate that every musician wants 1934 01:32:14,703 --> 01:32:17,140 which is you're dying, you got an album out 1935 01:32:17,183 --> 01:32:18,663 three days before your death. 1936 01:32:18,707 --> 01:32:20,578 How cool is that? 1937 01:32:20,622 --> 01:32:23,973 - I listened to the album the days leading up to his death. 1938 01:32:24,016 --> 01:32:27,280 So, trying to work out what it was all about, 1939 01:32:27,324 --> 01:32:29,282 and it was a bit down. 1940 01:32:29,326 --> 01:32:30,545 - It disturbed me. 1941 01:32:30,588 --> 01:32:31,850 I thought there was a message in it, 1942 01:32:31,894 --> 01:32:33,504 but I didn't know what it was. 1943 01:32:33,548 --> 01:32:37,464 I never imagined that it was a sort of goodbye. 1944 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,946 - It was gloomy, initially, 1945 01:32:42,774 --> 01:32:44,602 then it all made sense. 1946 01:32:44,646 --> 01:32:46,604 I felt a bit conned. 1947 01:32:46,648 --> 01:32:48,606 He sort of conned everyone, 1948 01:32:48,650 --> 01:32:52,654 but I'd say it couldn't have been done better. 1949 01:32:52,697 --> 01:32:55,744 - He orchestrated it beautifully with taste, 1950 01:32:55,787 --> 01:32:57,441 the way he's always been. 1951 01:32:57,484 --> 01:33:00,618 - It was brilliantly done, if you want to be depressed. 1952 01:33:00,662 --> 01:33:03,142 Not one for the children. [laughs] 1953 01:33:03,186 --> 01:33:06,798 - Even in death, I think David was very aware 1954 01:33:06,842 --> 01:33:08,670 of what the public would think about it. 1955 01:33:08,713 --> 01:33:11,847 - The timing was so extraordinary. 1956 01:33:11,890 --> 01:33:13,718 New album, new show, 1957 01:33:17,156 --> 01:33:19,855 both about his death and he dies. 1958 01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:26,035 That is the ultimate performance artistry. 1959 01:33:26,078 --> 01:33:28,733 It's so brash and bold and brave, 1960 01:33:30,517 --> 01:33:33,433 and inconceivable, but he pulled it off. 1961 01:33:33,477 --> 01:33:37,568 [gentle instrumental music] 1962 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:39,135 - [Voiceover] Even by the standards of an age 1963 01:33:39,178 --> 01:33:42,442 when fame and celebrity are excessively worshiped, 1964 01:33:42,486 --> 01:33:44,575 David Bowie's demise was an event 1965 01:33:44,619 --> 01:33:48,623 which generated worldwide wall-to-wall coverage. 1966 01:33:50,407 --> 01:33:52,017 In the wake of his death from cancer 1967 01:33:52,061 --> 01:33:55,934 at the age of 69, the media went into meltdown. 1968 01:33:57,762 --> 01:34:01,244 - [Mary] It was absolutely devastating. 1969 01:34:01,287 --> 01:34:02,637 - [Voiceover] It's very hard still to talk 1970 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:03,681 about him in the past tense. 1971 01:34:03,725 --> 01:34:05,422 I'm just totally dumbstruck 1972 01:34:05,465 --> 01:34:06,771 that he's no longer here. 1973 01:34:06,815 --> 01:34:07,685 I really am. 1974 01:34:07,729 --> 01:34:10,035 It really upset me to the core. 1975 01:34:11,646 --> 01:34:13,473 - [Voiceover] I don't know if I've ever been this emotional 1976 01:34:13,517 --> 01:34:15,693 about a celebrity, an icon, dying. 1977 01:34:15,737 --> 01:34:18,696 His music means a great deal to me. 1978 01:34:18,740 --> 01:34:20,132 - [Voiceover] Just really heartbroken 1979 01:34:20,176 --> 01:34:23,309 as if, when you feel as if you really knew someone 1980 01:34:23,353 --> 01:34:26,748 and they really touched your life. 1981 01:34:26,791 --> 01:34:29,751 - For everyone, he's their David Bowie, 1982 01:34:29,794 --> 01:34:33,668 and he was my David Bowie for that nine-month period, 1983 01:34:33,711 --> 01:34:35,452 and I thought we had something going. 1984 01:34:35,495 --> 01:34:38,107 But, he had it going with millions of people. 1985 01:34:38,150 --> 01:34:40,065 - It's a sad occasion for us this morning 1986 01:34:40,109 --> 01:34:44,330 as we put this wreath here on the star of David Bowie. 1987 01:34:45,767 --> 01:34:49,771 What an iconic entertainer, rock star, songwriter, 1988 01:34:49,814 --> 01:34:53,339 performer, actor, you could go on and on. 1989 01:34:54,166 --> 01:34:55,428 - I didn't sleep all night, 1990 01:34:55,472 --> 01:34:58,823 and I cried last night, and then I found out. 1991 01:35:00,042 --> 01:35:03,175 It was like I lost a family member. 1992 01:35:03,219 --> 01:35:05,917 - Feeling devastated is a complete wasted emotion. 1993 01:35:05,961 --> 01:35:08,833 He wouldn't want it, so why should anyone else do it? 1994 01:35:08,877 --> 01:35:10,095 - [Paul] I think he achieved everything 1995 01:35:10,139 --> 01:35:11,618 he would've dreamt of. 1996 01:35:11,662 --> 01:35:12,794 - [Dana] People feeling sorry for themselves, 1997 01:35:12,837 --> 01:35:14,709 they should be thinking about him, 1998 01:35:14,752 --> 01:35:18,756 and he did everything a musician wants to do. 1999 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,802 - From the Archbishop of Canterbury to George Clinton, 2000 01:35:20,845 --> 01:35:24,153 from the Vatican to the country of Germany, 2001 01:35:24,196 --> 01:35:28,418 with all these different records and styles, 2002 01:35:28,461 --> 01:35:31,377 he just touched an incredibly large number 2003 01:35:31,421 --> 01:35:32,944 of different populations. 2004 01:35:32,988 --> 01:35:34,990 That when you add them all together, 2005 01:35:35,033 --> 01:35:36,731 are the majority. 2006 01:35:36,774 --> 01:35:38,863 - I was filmed just outside of Radio Two 2007 01:35:38,907 --> 01:35:40,822 by Reuters' film crew. 2008 01:35:40,865 --> 01:35:43,650 I said to them, "When is this going out?" 2009 01:35:43,694 --> 01:35:46,741 And they said, "Over the next God knows how long." 2010 01:35:46,784 --> 01:35:48,003 I said, "Right." 2011 01:35:48,046 --> 01:35:51,441 And they then said, "In China, Japan, America, 2012 01:35:51,484 --> 01:35:52,790 "Germany, France." 2013 01:35:52,834 --> 01:35:54,879 And he looked at me, he said, 2014 01:35:54,923 --> 01:35:58,361 "David was big, massive all over the world." 2015 01:35:58,404 --> 01:36:01,668 He said, "We've never had a moment like this 2016 01:36:01,712 --> 01:36:04,454 "as far as demand is concerned." 2017 01:36:04,497 --> 01:36:06,935 - He's left so much music behind 2018 01:36:06,978 --> 01:36:08,545 that what could he do? 2019 01:36:08,588 --> 01:36:10,895 He couldn't go on till 200 years old. 2020 01:36:10,939 --> 01:36:12,462 He had to go at some point. 2021 01:36:12,505 --> 01:36:14,812 Obviously, one can feel sorry for his wife 2022 01:36:14,856 --> 01:36:17,293 and daughter and son, but when a child is born, 2023 01:36:17,336 --> 01:36:18,860 that's when you should cry 2024 01:36:18,903 --> 01:36:20,687 'cause you know they're going to have a life of hell 2025 01:36:20,731 --> 01:36:22,298 and pain and shit and everything. 2026 01:36:22,341 --> 01:36:24,169 When somebody dies is when you celebrate 2027 01:36:24,213 --> 01:36:25,997 and feel good because they've gone 2028 01:36:26,041 --> 01:36:30,393 to somewhere better of they've gone back to be stardust. 2029 01:36:30,436 --> 01:36:32,743 And I reckon he's stardust. 2030 01:36:39,532 --> 01:36:43,532 [solemn instrumental music] 157595

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