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[tense music playing]
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My friend's dad was a manager
at the Gold Club in Philadelphia,
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which is a strip club.
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I just graduated high school.
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I was only 18,
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and I started selling shots there
over the summer.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[woman] It was easy money,
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and there were
a lot of drugs around all the time.
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One night, I was approached by a man,
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and he was feeding me cocaine.
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And he told me that
"there's way more where this came from,"
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and "there's the opportunity for you
to make a lot of money."
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He told me
that I'd be selling his friend cocaine
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and then by the end of it,
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I would make money off
of that transaction.
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My motivation that night was
quick money and quick drugs.
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So I was like, "Absolutely."
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His friend introduced himself as John.
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He was a very tall,
kind of heavyset, middle-aged man.
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And then John and I left.
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[sinister music playing]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[woman] Once we were alone and in the car,
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he started going off
about pedophilic fantasies
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and asked me about my young friends,
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if I could show him pictures
of my young friends,
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what's the youngest friend I have.
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Inquired about not only just, like,
young girls but young boys too.
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That's when I realized what this is.
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It's not just me selling drugs.
It's also me selling sex.
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So I was doing everything in my power
to just not touch him.
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It made me feel quite uneasy.
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And then we arrived at the townhome.
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[eerie music playing]
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When we entered,
there was mail on the floor.
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There was nothing on the walls.
There was no furniture.
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But there were two beach chairs,
and there was a milk crate turned over,
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and then there was the television.
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It was playing a porn going on repeat.
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[static humming]
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[woman] So he says,
"Bust out the cocaine there."
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"I'm going to go upstairs really quick."
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So I'm, like, weighing out an eight ball,
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and I could hear him
making noise upstairs.
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But then I hear some kind of, like,
human-sized like scrumpling going on.
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[thudding]
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[woman] It sounded like
someone was moving around in a room.
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I was like, "Someone else is here."
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[footsteps treading]
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[clattering]
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Maybe they were trying to get attention.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[woman] I'm kind of out of my body
at this moment.
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Felt like something out of a horror movie.
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Whatever it was, it freaked me out.
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I was ripped back to my body.
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I put everything back in my bag.
I had a Taser.
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I'm like running towards the door.
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He comes barreling down the stairs,
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and I grab the Taser,
and I put it up to the flesh of his neck.
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Everything in me just says,
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"This is the moment that you make
a decision to possibly save your life."
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[melancholy music playing]
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[waves crashing]
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[somber music playing]
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[police siren wailing]
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[Kolker] By 2022,
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things have really changed
in law enforcement in Suffolk County.
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Burke and Spota have been
prosecuted and convicted,
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but the case has been going on for so long
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that there's a real question about
whether anything new is going to happen.
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It's been 12 years
since the Gilgo Four were found.
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It's been 11 and a half years since
all the other sets of remains were found.
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The case is still unsolved.
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But then there's
another changing of the guard.
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[invigorating music playing]
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[Kolker] Geraldine Hart steps down.
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[Hart] When I decided to leave
the Suffolk County Police Department,
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part of the difficult part of the decision
was leaving Gilgo unresolved.
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I think the best way to describe it
is a puzzle, right?
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And there were a lot of pieces put in
the puzzle during my time in that office.
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But there was the hope
that the new commissioner and their team
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could put that final piece in.
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[Kolker] Rodney Harrison,
the new commissioner,
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he's an outsider from New York City
and knows how cases get cleared,
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and that's through
collaboration and partnerships.
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[reporter] Suffolk County
Police Commissioner announces
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that he's forming a task force
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to get to the bottom
of the Gilgo Beach murders.
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I put a team together of Suffolk County
District Attorney's Office.
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We're working with the state police.
We got FBI on board.
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We even have the sheriffs helping out.
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I truly believe that we're going
to get down to the bottom
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of who committed these crimes.
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[Kolker] There is a new district attorney,
Ray Tierney.
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He's a local guy, and he actually worked
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in the district attorney's office
early in his career
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before Tom Spota was in charge.
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[Tierney] I took office January of 2022,
and we sort of hit the ground running.
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Of course, when we got there,
it was about 12 years in the making,
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so a tremendous amount of materials.
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The first thing we did is,
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we started digitalizing
all the evidence in the case
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so you could make it searchable.
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[Kolker] Now that they could
actually search for things,
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and they started looking at clues
and evidence and interviews
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that some people hadn't
laid eyes on for years.
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They hit on something right away.
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Police reports from Amber Costello's house
shortly after the investigation begins.
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-[suspenseful music playing]
-[thunder rumbling]
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[engine starting]
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There was this interaction
with, uh, one of her clients
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who was described as an ogre,
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um, very large individual, 6'4", 6'6",
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glasses, uh, kind of bushy hair,
uh, and that he was driving
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this first-generation,
dark-colored Chevy Avalanche.
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One of the investigators in the case
was able to determine that
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that type of generation of Chevy Avalanche
was owned by a very large individual,
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matching the physical description given.
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We knew the killer used burner phones,
activated in and around the area
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of Massapequa Park
and in Midtown Manhattan.
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The owner of this Avalanche happened
to not only reside in Massapequa Park,
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but also worked in and around
the area of Midtown Manhattan,
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where he picked up some of the victims.
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[Hart] All the things that we had in mind
of who this, uh, individual would be,
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each piece of information,
it just kept checking boxes.
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Our first meeting in the task force was
February 1st of 2022
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and March 14th of 2022.
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It was the day
that the name first came up.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[dramatic whoosh]
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[eerie music playing]
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[Tierney] Rex Heuermann.
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[sinister music playing]
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[Kolker] These guys were able
to do in six weeks
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what no one else was able to do
in 12 years.
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They've needed a suspect all this time,
and now they finally have one.
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[tense music playing]
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[Harrison] We started looking into
Rex Heuermann's lifestyle.
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Started working
with the district attorney's office
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and taking a look at phone records
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and getting subpoenas
for a host of other things.
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[Tierney] We were able to determine
that he resided in Massapequa Park
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with his wife and children.
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He would go into the city.
He worked as an architect.
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Then we developed this timeline
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with regard to the four murders
on the burner phones and then Heuermann.
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[Kolker] Up till now, they've sort
of traced the different movements
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that these burner phones that were
in touch with the victim's cell phones,
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where they went at different times.
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And the plan now was
to take Rex Heuermann's phone
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and check its movements over time.
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And lo and behold, wherever Rex goes,
those burner phones go too.
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[Tierney] Police department
as well as the FBI,
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we began surveilling the suspect.
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[Kolker] On May 19, 2023,
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they watched Rex Heuermann walk into
a store in Manhattan
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and pay to add minutes to a burner phone.
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But they also searched his emails,
and the more they found out about him,
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the scarier it got,
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because they learned
he had set up anonymous e-mail accounts
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where he was
still actively contacting escorts.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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Which, of course,
if you're law enforcement,
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you're wondering,
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"How much longer can we wait
before perhaps something bad happens?"
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[Tierney] Up to this point,
the investigation was still a secret
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because once a person knows
that they are wanted,
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they certainly could flee,
and you feel tremendous responsibility
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if somebody else gets hurt,
something else happens.
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Law enforcement needed to collect
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any type of DNA evidence
that could link him to these crimes.
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[Tierney] We told
those surveillance teams,
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"If you saw him consume something,
drink something, eat something,
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and then he discarded that,
whatever it was that he discarded,
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pick it up."
Because we wanted to obtain a DNA sample.
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They saw him discard pizza in a pizza box.
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They grabbed it,
and inside was a pizza crust.
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DNA was extracted and analyzed.
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We had five hairs recovered
from the scene in December of 2010.
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So now we had someone
to compare those hairs with.
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[Kolker] After 13 years of investigation
and ten months of following him,
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they finally get DNA of Rex Heuermann.
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His DNA profile matched
the hairs definitively.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Harrison] One thing is having
a green Avalanche,
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but having his DNA attached to the bodies
is a game changer.
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[Tierney] The balance had tipped
in favor of making the arrest.
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So we made the decision,
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"Let's take him down tonight."
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This day has been a long time coming.
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[reporter 1] Suffolk Police announced
they have arrested a suspect
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in the Gilgo Beach murders.
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[reporter 2] He was outside
his architecture firm last night,
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around 8:30.
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Then as he left his offices,
detectives were seen following him
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near 5th Avenue and 35th Street.
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[Tierney] Uh, it was very frenzied,
very hectic.
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[interviewer] Did he seem surprised?
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No.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Brodsky] A mug shot popped up.
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I said, "Oh my God. That was the guy."
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"That was… That was him."
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[Schaller] The day that they caught him,
a reporter called me,
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and she's like, "Are you seeing this?"
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I didn't even have the TV on,
and I'm like,
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"Tell me right now.
It's a fucking 6'8" giant ogre."
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And she's like,
"Dead fucking right, Dave."
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She's like,
"It's exactly what you said 13 years ago."
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[Gallucci] My cell phone was ringing.
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Text messages were coming through.
I turned on the TV,
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and I just remember thinking
in that moment, I was so happy.
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The families would
finally be getting justice.
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[Meserve] When somebody's found guilty,
that's when it'll be like,
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"Okay, we found Megan's killer."
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But I think nobody wants
to get too hopeful to be disappointed.
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[interviewer] If you could
say something to him,
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what would you want to say?
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He already knows he's a monster,
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but just that he's not as smart
as he thought he was.
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[somber music playing]
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[Tierney] Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen,
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and thank you all for coming.
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I'm standing here
with my law enforcement partners
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in the Gilgo Task Force,
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uh, to announce the indictment
of Defendant Rex Andrew Heuermann,
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for the murders of Melissa Barthelemy,
Megan Waterman, and Amber Costello.
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The investigation
of Maureen Brainard-Barnes is ongoing.
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We are working through forensic evidence,
and analyzes that are not completed.
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[interviewer] So right now,
as we're talking,
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he's not officially charged for Maureen.
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How important is it for you
that that change?
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It's important, very important,
because I want justice for my sister,
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and she deserves justice,
whatever justice may look like.
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So, I remain hopeful,
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like I've always have.
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[melancholy music playing]
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[reporter] We are
in this quiet neighborhood
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live in Massapequa Park
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that has been turned into a crime scene
when police descended this morning.
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That's because the suspect in this case
lives right on this block.
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[police siren wailing]
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[man] The doorbell rang
about five in the morning,
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and I went downstairs, and…
And a police officer was there.
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And he says to me,
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"Excuse me, could you please move
one of your cars from the driveway,
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and the other one in front of the house?"
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I said, "Sure, officer,
but could you tell me why?"
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And he says to me,
"Just turn the news on."
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[reporter] Massapequa Park neighbors
woke up to the unimaginable revelation,
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the decade-long hunt
for a serial killer centered here.
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[De Villiers] I went, "Oh my God."
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"I've lived next to that thing
for 28 years."
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Somebody from the neighborhood
that knows him well,
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came up to me and said, "What's going on?"
I said, uh, "They got the Gilgo killer."
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The first name she mentioned, "Heuermann?"
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And I went, "Yeah."
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[Kolker] Massapequa Park's like
a lot of suburban towns
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that are commuter towns to Manhattan.
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People who live there, they like it.
They're house-proud.
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Rex is a married father of two,
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living in the same house
that he grew up in,
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a dilapidated house that he seemed
to spend absolutely no time fixing up.
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You would assume that he'd know everybody,
given that he grew up on the block,
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but he never seemed
to interact with anyone.
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[De Villiers] He creeped
a lot of people out
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just by his size and the house.
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Halloween, we'd buy candy,
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and kids, when they reach his house,
they would cross the street.
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[Kolker] You can imagine when people hear
there's been a break in the case
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that they wouldn't be necessarily shocked
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that it was the loner on the block
who didn't take care of his house.
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Every time we walked past the house,
you'd say,
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"Why aren't they fixing this house up?"
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"It's the only one in the neighborhood
that looks like that."
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He used to say that he is an architect.
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There was times I thought
he was, well, full of shit.
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Now I find out the guy has
an office near Park Avenue.
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[Kolker] Rex Heuermann ran
an architecture firm,
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but he wasn't
the sort of architect who was, you know,
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drawing up plans for skyscrapers
or for dream houses.
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Uh, he was more of an expediter,
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the person who can kind of get things done
through the regulatory hurdles.
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Bonjour. I'm Antoine.
Today on the interview, Rex Heuermann,
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owner of RH Consultants,
a Department of Buildings facilitator.
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Let's go meet him.
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-Rex. Hi.
-Hello.
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-How you doing?
-Good to see you.
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Likewise. I hope you don't mind,
I brought my assistant with me, Norman.
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[Heuermann] Hello, Norman.
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I see it's raining out.
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-Yes.
-Shall we go through to the table?
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-Yes.
-Yeah, I know. You said…
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My old co-worker called me, and she said,
um, "Did you hear what happened to Rex?"
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And then she says,
"He's the Gilgo serial killer."
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And I think I dropped my phone.
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Rex, he had his own company,
RH Consultants.
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I worked with him there
for about six years.
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I was pretty much his right-hand person.
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Think back at all the times
you were with him, alone,
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working with him for so many years,
you know, it just brought me chills.
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-Tell us who you are. Stuff like that.
-Okay.
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Um…
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Rex Heuermann. I'm an architect.
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I'm an architectural consultant.
I'm a troubleshooter.
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-Born and raised on Long Island.
-Okay.
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Been working in Manhattan since 1987.
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Rex and I would go to meetings together,
we'd drive back to the office together,
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just daily stuff.
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He said when he was younger,
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he was either working
in the Parks Department
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or working as a ranger for the beach area.
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So he seemed to know
the ins and outs of that area pretty well.
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There was one incident
that was a little strange.
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[eerie music playing]
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[Henriquez] My friend Catherine was
an interior designer,
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and she went
to measure his house one time.
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She said when she got to the basement
that she was going to go in to measure,
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he stood in front of the door and said,
"You don't need to go in that room."
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"It's just guns I have in there.
I have just guns."
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And he… That's the one room she said
she never got to measure.
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She thought, "Why wouldn't he let me in
that room? What else is in that room?"
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[helicopter blades whirring]
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[tense music playing]
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[reporter 1] For a fourth straight day,
investigators are concentrating
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on the home of suspected serial killer,
Rex Heuermann.
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[reporter 2] For many hours now, police,
Suffolk, state police, Nassau police,
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they have been at his house,
inside his house, taking evidence.
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We've seen them remove
bags of evidence from the home as well.
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Ray Tierney, the DA, filed something like
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300 subpoenas and search warrants
about Rex Heuermann.
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The police spent
12 days searching his home.
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They dug in the back, then started
taking the guns out one by one.
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[Tierney] He had a tremendous amount
of firearms down in the basement,
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upwards of close to 300, I believe.
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He considers himself a hunter.
He considers himself a marksman,
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so, uh, I think like everything he did,
he took it to extremes.
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There was no evidence
that the guns were used
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in the commission of any of the murders,
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but we also recovered
some personal devices,
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uh, computers, laptops,
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and although they had
been forensically wiped,
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we were still able to recover
certain pieces of evidence off of that.
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[sinister music playing]
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[Tierney] We saw
what his searches were like.
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[keyboard clacking]
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[Tierney] They centered around
the investigation of Gilgo…
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the victims, the victims' families…
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as well as a lot of really disturbing
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abuse, degradation,
and torture of women in pornography.
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We got his financial records,
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we got the records of the family,
we were putting it all together.
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[somber music playing]
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[Kolker] They've reconstructed
the movements of Rex's family.
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In the 1990s,
Rex Heuermann married Asa Ellerup,
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who was a woman from Iceland
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who already had a son
from a previous marriage.
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Then some years later,
Rex and Asa have a daughter.
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When did he have time alone
to do these things, you know?
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How did he take women prisoner
and also be a family guy?
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[Gallucci] The police don't believe
the family knew anything
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about what Rex Heuermann was doing.
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Through looking at credit card records
and cell phone records,
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they were able to place
Rex Heuermann's family out of town
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during the time
of the Gilgo Four's murders.
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Rex's family would go on vacation,
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either in Atlantic City,
on vacation in Iceland,
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stay there for maybe a week,
and then he would join them later.
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They've reconstructed
the movements of Rex's family,
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and they were always out of town
for long periods
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during the exact moments
that these women disappeared.
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[tense music playing]
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[reporter] Asa, Victoria,
do you have anything to say
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about why you're here today?
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[reporter 2] The wife of the man accused
of the Gilgo Beach murders
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is breaking her silence tonight.
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[reporter 2] Asa Ellerup,
the wife of the accused serial killer,
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declared that her jailed husband
is not capable of the crimes.
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[reporter 3] She says
she knew nothing of this.
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He also has two adult children.
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They say they're just witnesses to this
and watching from afar.
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[Kolker] Almost immediately
after his arrest,
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his wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce.
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But then she started coming
to his court dates,
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and she was issuing statements saying
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that she couldn't believe
that he necessarily was the killer.
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[reporter] After investigators wrapped up
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collecting evidence
at Rex Heuermann's home,
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his wife Asa Ellerup,
and her two adult children
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returned to a life
they no longer recognize.
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Don't talk to me.
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Don't even say a word.
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Wanna take pictures? Go ahead!
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It was very surprising to me
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that they moved back into the home
after the search,
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knowing that the murders could have
possibly taken place there.
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But I also don't know
if they had any other option.
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The family was seen barbecuing
on the front lawn.
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[Kolker] They set up camp there
and they lived there
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even though
the place has been ripped apart.
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And then they start filing to try
to get some of their possessions back,
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including Rex's gun collection,
which seems a ludicrous thing to ask for.
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It's a very eccentric state of affairs.
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[reporter] The estranged wife
and two children
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of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer,
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Rex Heuermann, stood quietly
as her attorney spoke to the media.
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It's a matter of piecing
their lives back together
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and how they're going to move on.
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Nobody wants to believe
their family member, their dad,
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their husband would be capable
of these kind of crimes.
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[woman] I woke up one morning
to a beautiful sunrise,
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and my husband said out of the blue,
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"I think my cousin is a serial killer."
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My jaw dropped.
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[somber music playing]
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[Margaret] When Rex was picked up,
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the cousins were
just in shock and disbelief.
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It's hard to reconcile that he was able
to disguise himself so well.
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He wasn't an outsider in the family.
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He was an organizer
of the family reunions.
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He was called Dear Rex, our Dear Rex.
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It's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
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My husband was talking on the phone
to some of the cousins,
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and they started talking
about stories of his childhood,
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like, "How could this happen?"
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"How did this person come out
of our family?"
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That's when I started hearing more stories
about Rex's childhood.
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The core of the stories were
a lot of rage and anger issues.
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It was like walking on thin ice
being around his father.
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You didn't want to set him off
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because God knows
how he was going to react.
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Rex actually lived in the house
that he grew up in as a child.
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[man] That house has not changed
in 60 years.
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Growing up, Rex was a classmate of mine.
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He was two years older than me,
but I met Rex when I was in second grade.
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He was very, very quiet.
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Uh, almost too quiet.
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Extremely introverted.
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I was on the playground,
and at that time, um,
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he was getting picked on
by three or four kids,
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and they beat him up.
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And, um, he was a big kid, even back then.
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He towered over everybody,
and he never fought back.
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He just took it. He took it and took it.
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His father was very, very hard on him.
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We would be playing on the block,
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00:26:27,961 --> 00:26:31,131
and he would be yelling
and screaming at Rex.
450
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:34,925
His mother, for whatever reason,
451
00:26:35,009 --> 00:26:40,598
couldn't leave, you know, this abusive man
that everybody was traumatized by.
452
00:26:42,349 --> 00:26:45,854
And so the pipeline of trauma
453
00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:50,567
flows from one generation to the other.
454
00:26:53,569 --> 00:26:57,324
My husband went to stay,
actually, at Rex's house
455
00:26:57,406 --> 00:26:59,992
for a family reunion that I didn't go to.
456
00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:05,039
And. he came back and said,
"You'll never believe this… This house,
457
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:08,835
that, you know, my cousin is an architect,
458
00:27:08,917 --> 00:27:13,798
and this house is like, you know,
like a scary horror house."
459
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:17,134
"Everything is falling apart. It's dark."
460
00:27:17,218 --> 00:27:20,638
My husband told me he was…
He was really creeped out.
461
00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:28,313
If you're living in a house
where you were abused and traumatized,
462
00:27:28,896 --> 00:27:32,608
I don't know, if it were me,
I would want to leave that house.
463
00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:35,319
Not only did he stay in that house,
464
00:27:35,403 --> 00:27:41,076
he just kept it
like a capsule of time from his childhood.
465
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,161
[tense music playing]
466
00:27:45,829 --> 00:27:47,665
[Tierney] Through our investigation,
467
00:27:48,916 --> 00:27:51,752
the profile that emerges
of the defendant is
468
00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:54,255
an individual very much
who lived this dual life,
469
00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:59,301
where on one hand,
this life that he presented to the public,
470
00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:03,013
and he would go into the city,
work as an architect.
471
00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:08,894
On the other hand, this secret life
that really only he knew about.
472
00:28:09,770 --> 00:28:13,857
We started to learn more
about his travel and life patterns,
473
00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:17,903
which oftentimes brought him
to outside jurisdictions.
474
00:28:18,488 --> 00:28:21,990
[reporter] Investigations surrounding
suspected serial killer Rex Heuermann
475
00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:24,493
are expanding far beyond
the Gilgo Beach area.
476
00:28:24,576 --> 00:28:27,788
His DNA has reportedly been entered
into a statewide database
477
00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:31,084
to see if he's connected
to any other cold cases in New York.
478
00:28:31,166 --> 00:28:35,422
Also, two locations where he owns property
are now wrapped up in this investigation.
479
00:28:35,505 --> 00:28:39,425
[reporter 2] Police in New Jersey,
South Carolina, and Nevada
480
00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:44,012
are investigating if he's linked
to unsolved murders in those states.
481
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,098
The more you learn about Rex Heuermann,
482
00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,351
the more you see
that he didn't just stay in Long Island.
483
00:28:48,434 --> 00:28:50,894
You had to wonder if maybe
he was on the hook for other murders
484
00:28:50,979 --> 00:28:52,814
all around wherever he went.
485
00:28:53,397 --> 00:28:57,067
Who knows how many cases
outside of New York before we're done.
486
00:29:05,617 --> 00:29:07,619
[dogs barking]
487
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,709
[woman] One day,
I just randomly went onto,
488
00:29:12,791 --> 00:29:18,338
like, Google News
and then saw this person's picture
489
00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:22,426
that was the suspect arrested
for the Gilgo murders
490
00:29:22,509 --> 00:29:26,765
and started to have a, like,
a visceral panic attack.
491
00:29:26,847 --> 00:29:28,849
[suspenseful music playing]
492
00:29:32,019 --> 00:29:34,230
It was like a PTSD flashback.
493
00:29:34,855 --> 00:29:37,858
[woman whimpering]
494
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:44,531
[Taylor] After seeing that picture,
"This is him. This is the same guy."
495
00:29:44,615 --> 00:29:46,867
[sinister music playing]
496
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:49,412
[Taylor] I realized
I could have died that night.
497
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:51,705
[melancholy music playing]
498
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:55,667
[Taylor] Then I thought,
"I have to tell somebody."
499
00:29:56,627 --> 00:29:58,712
Like, this is the person.
500
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:02,049
He is the suspect of multiple murders.
501
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:05,804
What if there's people missing
in the area that I was took?
502
00:30:05,886 --> 00:30:08,263
What if there's people
that were taken from the club?
503
00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:12,101
They had just cracked who this person was,
504
00:30:12,184 --> 00:30:16,689
and a lot of guilt started to surface too.
505
00:30:17,481 --> 00:30:22,319
So I started to research a lot,
trying to find answers
506
00:30:22,403 --> 00:30:25,405
if this individual had
any ties to the area.
507
00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:29,201
Valerie Mack had connections
to Philadelphia,
508
00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:30,787
which is where she would work
509
00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:35,500
and she went missing
in the early 2000s from this area.
510
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,253
Her body was found on Long Island.
511
00:30:40,212 --> 00:30:45,801
What if Valerie Mack was taken from Philly
and brought to Long Island?
512
00:30:47,804 --> 00:30:51,723
This is the map of all
of the relevant addresses so far.
513
00:30:51,807 --> 00:30:56,061
It has missing persons, found bodies,
514
00:30:56,144 --> 00:31:00,357
and relevant addresses of the suspect
all across the United States.
515
00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:05,613
I absolutely think
that there are other victims out there.
516
00:31:05,696 --> 00:31:09,284
Not only bodies that could be found
or have already been discovered,
517
00:31:09,366 --> 00:31:12,744
but ones that are missing
in other areas of the United States.
518
00:31:12,828 --> 00:31:14,830
[tense music playing]
519
00:31:28,385 --> 00:31:30,387
[boat horn blowing]
520
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:35,643
[Cann] I'd never been to Long Island
before my sister went missing.
521
00:31:37,311 --> 00:31:39,939
I've never had a reason to go before.
522
00:31:44,443 --> 00:31:45,528
[dramatic music playing]
523
00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:47,947
[Cann] It's been, you know, 16 years.
524
00:31:49,531 --> 00:31:51,951
[reporter 1] The suspect
in Long Island's Gilgo Beach murders
525
00:31:52,035 --> 00:31:54,787
has been charged
with the killing of a fourth woman.
526
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,039
[reporter 2] Today,
Rex Heuermann was charged
527
00:31:57,123 --> 00:31:58,875
with Maureen Brainard-Barnes's murder.
528
00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:02,921
[reporter 3] The hair found in the buckle
of this belt used to bind Brainard-Barnes
529
00:32:03,003 --> 00:32:04,881
is said to be linked to Heuermann.
530
00:32:07,049 --> 00:32:10,929
[Cann] I had been waiting for this
for a long time.
531
00:32:13,681 --> 00:32:16,351
Throughout these years,
I have continued to hold on to hope
532
00:32:16,433 --> 00:32:18,978
that one day
there would be justice for Maureen
533
00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,606
and that whoever took Maureen's life
would be held accountable.
534
00:32:23,106 --> 00:32:25,026
Today is another important chapter
535
00:32:25,108 --> 00:32:28,028
in the long pursuit
of justice for Maureen.
536
00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:32,157
It has been 16 years
since the last time I saw my sister,
537
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,579
16 years since I heard her voice,
because 16 years ago, she was silenced.
538
00:32:38,205 --> 00:32:39,082
Thank you.
539
00:32:39,164 --> 00:32:41,166
[melancholy music playing]
540
00:32:47,006 --> 00:32:49,384
[Karnes] Maureen was not
just a sex worker,
541
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:52,260
not just one of the Gilgo Four.
542
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:54,430
She was somebody's friend.
543
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:59,268
She's, you know,
somebody's sister, somebody's mom.
544
00:33:00,185 --> 00:33:02,396
[girl] I'm here to speak
for my mom, Maureen.
545
00:33:03,439 --> 00:33:06,401
I was only seven years old
when my mother was murdered.
546
00:33:06,483 --> 00:33:09,695
Her loss drastically changed
the trajectory of my life.
547
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:13,407
There are countless times
I needed her and she was not there.
548
00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:16,326
I remember she read to me every night,
549
00:33:16,411 --> 00:33:19,413
and now I can no longer remember
the sound of her voice.
550
00:33:20,414 --> 00:33:23,667
The indictment by the grand jury
has brought hope for justice
551
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:25,420
for my mom and my family.
552
00:33:34,554 --> 00:33:39,433
Now we move to the second phase,
prosecution of these four cases,
553
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,310
as well as continuing
to use the grand jury
554
00:33:42,394 --> 00:33:45,105
to investigate the other cases.
555
00:33:49,152 --> 00:33:52,779
[Gallucci] After ten years
of mostly silence,
556
00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:56,366
police started reaching out to women
with a history of sex work
557
00:33:56,451 --> 00:33:59,287
to say, "Do you have any experiences
that could help this investigation?"
558
00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:02,582
[man] My staff has interviewed
141 sex workers.
559
00:34:02,664 --> 00:34:06,919
So far, we've had 12 women that have
claimed interactions with Rex Heuermann.
560
00:34:07,795 --> 00:34:12,340
[Gallucci] They had people coming forward
and finally police are saying,
561
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:13,300
"We trust you."
562
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:16,137
"The things that happened,
we're gonna take them seriously."
563
00:34:18,847 --> 00:34:21,934
And then police were back
at the Heuermann house
564
00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:23,351
to do another search.
565
00:34:23,936 --> 00:34:25,271
[reporter] Talk about déjà vu.
566
00:34:25,353 --> 00:34:27,648
We were here back in July
and now months later,
567
00:34:27,731 --> 00:34:31,485
we're here as investigators issued
another search warrant.
568
00:34:31,568 --> 00:34:33,695
They focused on the basement this time.
569
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:36,449
So it could have been something
they discovered last time.
570
00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:38,659
Maybe there's more evidence
they found in the meantime.
571
00:34:38,742 --> 00:34:39,911
[suspenseful music playing]
572
00:34:39,994 --> 00:34:42,079
[Tierney] When we first searched
the house,
573
00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:44,123
we recovered his computer
574
00:34:44,206 --> 00:34:46,833
and although it had been
forensically wiped,
575
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:50,963
we were still able to recover
certain pieces of evidence off of that.
576
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:54,092
And utilizing the evidence
that we had obtained,
577
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,302
we expanded the investigation
578
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:01,349
to all the bodies found in
and around the area of Gilgo Beach.
579
00:35:02,391 --> 00:35:04,684
[reporter] A developing story
here tonight.
580
00:35:04,768 --> 00:35:07,480
Investigators combed
a wooded area in Manorville
581
00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:08,981
on Long Island this afternoon.
582
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:11,775
Another search related
to the Gilgo Beach investigation.
583
00:35:11,858 --> 00:35:12,693
[tense music playing]
584
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:16,655
Police start searching a different part
of Long Island, way out in Manorville,
585
00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:20,492
near a set of pine barrens
where some victims had been found.
586
00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:23,161
[reporter 1] The remains
of two Gilgo Beach victims
587
00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:25,664
were found in Manorville decades ago.
588
00:35:25,748 --> 00:35:28,708
The partial remains
of Valerie Mack in 2000
589
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:32,380
and the partial remains
of Jessica Taylor in 2003.
590
00:35:32,463 --> 00:35:37,467
The rest of their remains were later found
along Ocean Parkway near Gilgo Beach.
591
00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,471
[reporter 2] Law enforcement officials
are tight-lipped,
592
00:35:40,554 --> 00:35:42,514
but say this is a joint investigation
593
00:35:42,597 --> 00:35:45,016
between the Suffolk County
Police Department,
594
00:35:45,101 --> 00:35:48,478
New York State Police,
and the District Attorney's Office.
595
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:51,023
[Tierney] All of the areas were
being searched,
596
00:35:51,106 --> 00:35:53,067
and it's sort of monumental
597
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,402
because there's
this active and ongoing case,
598
00:35:55,485 --> 00:35:57,112
but you have this other investigation,
599
00:35:57,195 --> 00:35:59,197
and all of it now is sort
of happening at once.
600
00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:03,536
This is the first time police are
outright saying there could be a link
601
00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:06,246
between the Manorville victims,
602
00:36:06,329 --> 00:36:09,125
the other victims on Ocean Parkway,
and the Gilgo Four,
603
00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:13,461
and is confirmation that they really were
looking at all the cases.
604
00:36:14,463 --> 00:36:16,798
Up until this point,
police were very adamant
605
00:36:16,882 --> 00:36:20,177
about Gilgo Four being their own case.
606
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:22,597
This is moving at a rapid pace.
607
00:36:25,974 --> 00:36:28,518
They're expanding
the search into North Sea,
608
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:32,981
which is an area that is
about 25 miles east of Manorville
609
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:37,445
and isn't an area that has been,
up to this point,
610
00:36:37,527 --> 00:36:40,322
associated with the Ocean Parkway murders.
611
00:36:40,405 --> 00:36:43,367
[reporter 1] The search has widened
to the hamlet of North Sea,
612
00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:49,998
where 28-year-old Sandra Costilla's body
was discovered back in November of 1993.
613
00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:55,463
John Bittrolff has been long suspected
in her death, but never charged.
614
00:36:56,713 --> 00:37:01,219
We wanted to look at all of these women
and put all of these pieces together.
615
00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:04,597
We were working at,
like, a breakneck pace.
616
00:37:05,722 --> 00:37:09,393
My goal is to bring closure
to as many cases as possible.
617
00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:14,398
[indistinct chatter]
618
00:37:16,858 --> 00:37:19,195
[man] He's walking in now.
He's walking in already.
619
00:37:23,449 --> 00:37:25,909
[Tierney] We're here today
to announce additional charges
620
00:37:25,992 --> 00:37:28,454
in the case against
the defendant Rex Heuermann.
621
00:37:30,498 --> 00:37:36,211
Those charges pertain
to the 1993 murder of Sandra Costilla,
622
00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:40,298
and the 2003 murder of Jessica Taylor.
623
00:37:40,382 --> 00:37:42,385
[suspenseful music playing]
624
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:47,431
[Tierney] With regard
to the 1993 discovery of Sandra Costilla,
625
00:37:47,514 --> 00:37:50,059
there were hairs
from Sandra Costilla's remains
626
00:37:50,141 --> 00:37:54,896
that are of particular significance
in this case, and at that time,
627
00:37:54,981 --> 00:37:59,068
John Bittrolff was excluded
as the donor of those three hairs.
628
00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:03,072
Those hairs were retested
in 2023 and 2024,
629
00:38:03,155 --> 00:38:05,949
and defendant Heuermann cannot be excluded
630
00:38:06,032 --> 00:38:08,661
as the contributor
of that male hair on Costilla.
631
00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:13,748
[Gallucci] John Bittrolff was convicted
in 2017
632
00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:16,293
of the two murders in the early '90s,
633
00:38:16,376 --> 00:38:18,086
Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee,
634
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:21,882
and he was always the prime suspect
for the murder of Sandra Costilla.
635
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,304
[woman] I work for the Legal Aid Society
of Suffolk County,
636
00:38:27,387 --> 00:38:29,681
and I work within the Appeals Bureau.
637
00:38:30,682 --> 00:38:35,980
And our office represents Mr. Bittrolff
on appeal from his 2017 convictions.
638
00:38:37,063 --> 00:38:40,025
He's been incarcerated
for approximately ten years.
639
00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,364
Sandra Costilla,
at the time of the murder,
640
00:38:45,447 --> 00:38:46,907
she was living in Queens,
641
00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:49,452
where she may have been working
as a sex worker,
642
00:38:49,534 --> 00:38:51,036
and even though they suspected
643
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:55,166
that John may have been
responsible for her murder,
644
00:38:55,248 --> 00:38:58,710
the physical evidence
that was found at her crime scene
645
00:38:58,793 --> 00:39:00,378
was some hair samples,
646
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:03,548
and they came back
to not belong to Mr. Bittrolff,
647
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:05,467
so he was never charged with her murder.
648
00:39:06,552 --> 00:39:09,387
Even though the district attorney had
come out and affirmatively said,
649
00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:12,849
"That we believe
that one person killed all three women."
650
00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,771
Possible connection
between those two murders
651
00:39:16,853 --> 00:39:19,690
and the murder of Sandra Costilla
652
00:39:19,773 --> 00:39:22,777
is under very active investigation
at this time.
653
00:39:23,693 --> 00:39:26,405
[Gallucci] All three women were killed
within a three-month time frame.
654
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:29,449
All left in a very similar manner,
655
00:39:29,532 --> 00:39:32,077
but Bittrolff always maintained
his innocence.
656
00:39:32,577 --> 00:39:37,083
They find no DNA connecting
John Bittrolff to Sandra Costilla,
657
00:39:37,166 --> 00:39:43,297
and so when they find a hair
that is later tied to Rex Heuermann,
658
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:44,590
what does that mean?
659
00:39:44,672 --> 00:39:48,427
Does that mean
Bittrolff was not lying all this time?
660
00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:52,764
[Marcoccia] There were also hairs found
on Rita and Colleen's body
661
00:39:52,847 --> 00:39:54,557
that had not been tested.
662
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:58,353
So what do we need to have looked at
663
00:39:58,436 --> 00:40:03,067
to compare to Rex to see if we can tie him
to those crime scenes as well?
664
00:40:04,693 --> 00:40:09,407
I requested that the district attorney
review Mr. Bittrolff's convictions
665
00:40:09,489 --> 00:40:13,744
based upon their indictment of Rex
for Sandra Costilla's murder,
666
00:40:14,327 --> 00:40:16,704
and because of their longstanding theory
667
00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:18,958
that only one person killed
all three women.
668
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:26,090
Their response to me was
that Mr. Bittrolff's convictions
669
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,259
are not being reconsidered.
670
00:40:32,262 --> 00:40:33,931
[somber music playing]
671
00:40:34,014 --> 00:40:36,641
[Kolker] Sandra Costilla, 1993.
672
00:40:36,724 --> 00:40:38,561
If Rex Heuermann is responsible
for her death,
673
00:40:38,643 --> 00:40:44,400
that means that he spent the next 30 years
living in Massapequa Park
674
00:40:44,483 --> 00:40:46,527
at large, under everyone's nose.
675
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:50,030
That's 30 years where he might have been
harming other people,
676
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,282
killing God knows how many people.
677
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:58,873
He was 29 in 1993,
and the next murder that he's charged with
678
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:01,791
is Jessica Taylor in 2003.
679
00:41:01,876 --> 00:41:03,918
So that's a ten-year gap.
680
00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:08,673
Jessica Taylor was last seen
in New York City.
681
00:41:09,257 --> 00:41:11,217
Uh, she was working as a sex worker.
682
00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:15,972
Rex Heuermann was
in New York City at that time.
683
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:19,976
[Kolker] It was amazing
and shocking actually
684
00:41:20,059 --> 00:41:23,188
to hear that Jessica Taylor was named
a victim of Rex Heuermann
685
00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:27,485
'cause she had been orphaned
for so long in this case.
686
00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:30,905
On July 26, Jessica's body was recovered.
687
00:41:30,987 --> 00:41:33,824
At that time,
the Suffolk County PD spoke to witnesses,
688
00:41:33,907 --> 00:41:36,494
and the witnesses had observed
the night before
689
00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:39,329
a dark-colored pickup truck
in that vicinity.
690
00:41:40,246 --> 00:41:41,956
[Kolker] Once again,
it's the Chevy Avalanche
691
00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,585
that pries this whole thing open
for the police.
692
00:41:45,585 --> 00:41:47,922
[Gallucci] For, like, ten years,
police have said
693
00:41:48,005 --> 00:41:51,050
there are different MOs
with different victims.
694
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:56,972
But then police release digital evidence
695
00:41:57,056 --> 00:41:59,599
that adds a whole disgusting new chapter.
696
00:41:59,682 --> 00:42:00,643
[dramatic music playing]
697
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:04,980
[reporter] We're told Rex Heuermann kept
a gruesome roadmap of six vicious murders.
698
00:42:06,106 --> 00:42:11,070
This planning document crystallizes
and encapsulates his intent
699
00:42:11,152 --> 00:42:12,820
for the commission of these murders.
700
00:42:14,364 --> 00:42:18,702
The planning document was discovered on
a hard drive found in the Heuermann house,
701
00:42:19,786 --> 00:42:24,791
and it was a file created
in the year 2000 that had been deleted.
702
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,545
Police were able to recover it.
703
00:42:28,836 --> 00:42:31,297
That planning document was jaw-dropping.
704
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:36,010
He had lists of equipment
he needed to use.
705
00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:39,764
Tips for doing a better job the next time.
706
00:42:40,266 --> 00:42:43,811
Everything from,
"try to hit the victim a little harder,"
707
00:42:43,893 --> 00:42:48,648
to "try to get some rest so you have
more time to torture your victims."
708
00:42:49,942 --> 00:42:53,152
[Gallucci] It makes me think about
what these women went through
709
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,364
before they died.
710
00:42:56,197 --> 00:42:59,867
I never considered
that there was an element of torture
711
00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:02,454
or, like, this sadistic part
712
00:43:03,246 --> 00:43:07,585
that it sounds like happened
before these women were killed.
713
00:43:09,168 --> 00:43:11,338
[Kolker] This is a document written
by somebody
714
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,965
who was so determined not just to do it,
715
00:43:14,632 --> 00:43:15,800
but to do it again and again.
716
00:43:17,135 --> 00:43:21,014
As the years go on,
he starts to change things up
717
00:43:22,474 --> 00:43:24,476
and get a little bit more organized,
718
00:43:25,936 --> 00:43:28,021
a little better at avoiding detection,
719
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:33,110
which would explain
why he made sure that Amber Costello
720
00:43:33,193 --> 00:43:35,320
didn't have her cell phone with her.
721
00:43:38,615 --> 00:43:43,954
[Gallucci] He has plans for dump sites,
which corresponds to the locations
722
00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:46,664
where Jessica Taylor
and Valerie Mack's bodies were found.
723
00:43:50,501 --> 00:43:52,963
There's also a section
724
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:56,132
where he talks
about getting rid of evidence,
725
00:43:57,259 --> 00:44:02,722
in particular destroying tattoos
and removing the head and hands,
726
00:44:02,806 --> 00:44:06,851
which corresponds to the victims
later found on Ocean Parkway.
727
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:12,315
So what seems
to be the MO's of several killers
728
00:44:12,398 --> 00:44:16,527
could actually all be
one man adapting and evolving.
729
00:44:19,489 --> 00:44:23,911
Is it possible that all of these cases
are connected to him?
730
00:44:24,869 --> 00:44:26,163
[dramatic sting]
731
00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:30,376
[waves crashing]
732
00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:34,588
[Tierney] This is the case
that matters to Suffolk County
733
00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:39,717
because of the notoriety
and the interest that it's garnered,
734
00:44:40,552 --> 00:44:44,014
but to me,
it's about the victims and their families,
735
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:46,891
and what we need to do
736
00:44:46,974 --> 00:44:50,103
is find some small measure of justice
for all of them.
737
00:44:50,186 --> 00:44:51,771
[melancholy music playing]
738
00:44:52,438 --> 00:44:55,650
The grand jury with regard
to the Gilgo Four is over,
739
00:44:55,733 --> 00:44:59,780
but the case continues,
and that investigation has been expanded,
740
00:45:00,947 --> 00:45:05,077
both to the bodies
that were found on Gilgo and beyond.
741
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:10,666
Every person who was tragically murdered
in Suffolk County,
742
00:45:11,458 --> 00:45:12,668
uh, they're in play.
743
00:45:14,085 --> 00:45:16,338
This case is not over.
744
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,217
We have to prove it at trial,
and we have a lot more to go,
745
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:25,806
but just to be able
to bring it to this point for them
746
00:45:27,014 --> 00:45:29,101
is very, uh, very gratifying.
747
00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:37,358
[Gallucci] From the beginning,
I always felt that this was one killer.
748
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:40,445
And it felt really good to know
749
00:45:40,528 --> 00:45:43,030
that some of the women
that I got to know through my research
750
00:45:43,114 --> 00:45:45,074
were finally going to get justice.
751
00:45:46,702 --> 00:45:48,786
I feel like this is
what we've all been waiting for
752
00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:49,913
for decades.
753
00:45:51,289 --> 00:45:52,291
[horn honking]
754
00:45:59,422 --> 00:46:02,717
-[woman talking indistinctly]
-[Cann] I see them. Hey, ladies.
755
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:08,514
I think us as families coming together
is very important
756
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,018
because you have people
that are going through
757
00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,896
the same thing as you, that understands.
758
00:46:14,771 --> 00:46:17,231
[Meserve] It's nice
that we have each other.
759
00:46:17,315 --> 00:46:18,442
It's very unusual.
760
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,237
You just think,
"This could never happen to me,"
761
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,574
and now we're all families
that this happened to all of us,
762
00:46:26,657 --> 00:46:28,744
and so you don't feel so alone.
763
00:46:29,244 --> 00:46:31,204
You kind of lived in this bubble,
764
00:46:31,288 --> 00:46:35,666
and then all of a sudden
you kind of had this family dynamic
765
00:46:35,751 --> 00:46:40,213
that the only people that knew
what we were going through was us.
766
00:46:40,297 --> 00:46:42,507
-We all grieved differently.
-Exactly.
767
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:45,969
[Funderburg] My 30th birthday marks
half of my life without my sister.
768
00:46:46,052 --> 00:46:47,304
It's definitely been hard.
769
00:46:47,387 --> 00:46:49,139
It was hard
when I found out I was pregnant,
770
00:46:49,222 --> 00:46:50,389
the first thing I thought was,
771
00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:54,143
"I want to share this with my sister,"
and "He'll never get to meet his aunt,"
772
00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:56,938
and "How am I going to explain this
to him one day?"
773
00:46:57,021 --> 00:46:59,358
'Cause nobody deserves
to go through what we went through.
774
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,483
I was a little toddler.
775
00:47:00,567 --> 00:47:02,902
[Meserve] I think this connection
with family members
776
00:47:02,985 --> 00:47:05,197
has been very helpful for Lily.
777
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,742
That was Megan's daughter.
She just turned 17.
778
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:09,952
[talking indistinctly]
779
00:47:10,034 --> 00:47:15,289
In the beginning, Liliana remembered
only trips to the playground with her mom
780
00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:16,500
and the laughing.
781
00:47:17,583 --> 00:47:20,503
She doesn't remember those now,
782
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:25,007
so it's sad for Liliana
that she doesn't have her own memories.
783
00:47:25,092 --> 00:47:27,385
Her friends look at Lily and say…
784
00:47:27,469 --> 00:47:29,847
[gasps] "Are you Megan's daughter?"
785
00:47:30,472 --> 00:47:32,139
-And you look just like her.
-All the time.
786
00:47:32,224 --> 00:47:34,101
-All the time.
-Your eyes and your nose.
787
00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:37,855
Your eyes are very dynamic,
and your mom had those eyes.
788
00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:39,856
[Meserve] She definitely
reminds me of you.
789
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,610
[Gallucci] Some families aren't here
to see this justice.
790
00:47:43,693 --> 00:47:47,739
Both Megan Waterman's mom,
Lorraine Ela, and Mari Gilbert,
791
00:47:47,822 --> 00:47:49,782
Shannan Gilbert's mother, passed away.
792
00:47:50,449 --> 00:47:52,411
They fought so hard for this moment.
793
00:47:53,452 --> 00:47:55,371
I just wish they were here to see it.
794
00:47:58,708 --> 00:48:03,422
I believe Mari would still be campaigning
to have Shannan's death ruled a homicide,
795
00:48:03,505 --> 00:48:06,048
and she would not be convinced that
796
00:48:06,132 --> 00:48:08,719
Shannan's death was disconnected
from the others.
797
00:48:09,802 --> 00:48:14,516
It's easier for the police department
to say, "It's a cold case. Let it be."
798
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,351
That could happen.
We're hoping it doesn't.
799
00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:19,478
I'm gonna do everything I can
to make sure it doesn't.
800
00:48:20,563 --> 00:48:22,773
[Cann] Shannan deserves justice.
801
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:28,487
At the end of the day,
we all are here to acknowledge
802
00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:31,115
that without Shannan Gilbert
going missing,
803
00:48:31,949 --> 00:48:34,202
our loved ones would have
never been found.
804
00:48:34,286 --> 00:48:36,996
[dramatic music playing]
805
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,498
[Gallucci] I think we're
at the beginning of the story.
806
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,045
There are dozens of women
whose murders are unsolved.
807
00:48:44,963 --> 00:48:47,382
Some of them who worked as sex workers.
808
00:48:47,465 --> 00:48:50,302
A lot of the older cases are cold
because people just aren't around,
809
00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:52,054
people moved away,
810
00:48:52,137 --> 00:48:54,222
and a lot of families
just kind of lose hope and faith.
811
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:56,349
They don't feel like
the police are gonna do anything,
812
00:48:56,432 --> 00:48:58,351
and they don't know what else to do.
813
00:48:58,434 --> 00:49:00,728
So how many more could there be?
814
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:08,027
[Funderburg] It was tough
not having information for so long,
815
00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:09,947
but you just had to keep the faith
816
00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:12,824
and just pray
that something would come one day.
817
00:49:12,907 --> 00:49:16,119
'Cause she would never give up on me,
and I could never give up on her.
818
00:49:19,498 --> 00:49:22,376
So, hopefully,
justice is just around the corner.
819
00:49:26,838 --> 00:49:28,840
[melancholy music playing]
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