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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,589 --> 00:00:09,801 [crickets chirping] 2 00:00:09,884 --> 00:00:11,970 [footsteps walking rapidly] 3 00:00:12,053 --> 00:00:13,304 [eerie music playing] 4 00:00:18,852 --> 00:00:22,062 [man] Amber Costello was the last person missing 5 00:00:22,146 --> 00:00:23,565 of the Gilgo Beach murders. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,446 She went missing only three months before they found the bodies. 7 00:00:32,906 --> 00:00:36,286 So there's your best fresh lead. That's the one you'll look at. 8 00:00:36,786 --> 00:00:38,329 Everything else is old. 9 00:00:38,412 --> 00:00:40,414 [dramatic music playing] 10 00:00:43,917 --> 00:00:47,213 [Kolker] Shortly after the investigation begins in 2010, 11 00:00:47,296 --> 00:00:50,216 police go to Amber Costello's house 12 00:00:50,299 --> 00:00:53,762 where they try to figure out who was the last person to see her alive, 13 00:00:53,844 --> 00:00:56,180 uh, what her movements were like, who she talked to. 14 00:00:58,057 --> 00:01:00,268 [Schaller] At the time they found these bodies, 15 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:02,311 the cops came and spoke to me. 16 00:01:02,395 --> 00:01:03,646 [police siren wailing] 17 00:01:03,729 --> 00:01:05,814 [Schaller] I told them that there's a guy 18 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:10,069 that really lights up every friggin' red flag on the planet. 19 00:01:10,153 --> 00:01:11,737 Maybe you should look into him. 20 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:21,206 Weeks before she went missing, there was a guy who had come to the house. 21 00:01:22,206 --> 00:01:24,542 She told the guy, "I'm only dancing." 22 00:01:25,501 --> 00:01:26,835 And "There's no sex." 23 00:01:28,129 --> 00:01:29,963 I was out for the night. 24 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:33,718 Probably had been gone from the house for, like, 20, 25 minutes. 25 00:01:34,384 --> 00:01:36,763 And she called, freaking out. 26 00:01:37,597 --> 00:01:40,766 She's like, "I'm in the bathroom. I'm hiding." 27 00:01:41,266 --> 00:01:42,977 "I told him I was dancing." 28 00:01:44,228 --> 00:01:47,899 "He was grabbing on me." She's like, "'No' wasn't an answer for him." 29 00:01:47,981 --> 00:01:49,317 [suspenseful music playing] 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,485 [Schaller] I came flying back to the house with Bear. 31 00:01:52,611 --> 00:01:55,615 And we busted open the door, went right to the bathroom. 32 00:01:56,448 --> 00:01:59,201 I'm like, "What's up?" And she's like, "Uh, is he there?" 33 00:01:59,284 --> 00:02:02,412 Then I hear Bear say, "Who the fuck are you?" 34 00:02:02,496 --> 00:02:05,125 I turn around, and here's this giant standing there. 35 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:10,170 [Brodsky] This dude was literally the size of the door. 36 00:02:11,004 --> 00:02:13,591 He was pissed. Wanted his money back. 37 00:02:14,175 --> 00:02:17,387 I was like, "You're out of here." And he's like, "No." 38 00:02:17,469 --> 00:02:19,472 -[dog barking] -[Brodsky] We had a pit bull. 39 00:02:19,556 --> 00:02:20,556 [thunder rumbling] 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,643 I told him I was going to let go of the dog. 41 00:02:24,727 --> 00:02:26,103 It got him moving. 42 00:02:26,687 --> 00:02:31,067 And the whole time, we're pushing him out, trying to fight him out the door. 43 00:02:32,651 --> 00:02:36,030 But instead of looking at, you know, me fighting him, 44 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:38,115 he's looking past me at her. 45 00:02:39,491 --> 00:02:42,662 It's almost like his eyes got this focus to 'em. 46 00:02:43,496 --> 00:02:46,582 Imagine a predator who is just tripped, 47 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:49,002 like off, you know? 48 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:50,545 But his focus was on her. 49 00:02:51,962 --> 00:02:54,340 Bear opened the door, pushed him out. 50 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:57,885 And as he's walking to the car, he's just looking straight at her. 51 00:02:58,468 --> 00:03:00,680 And he's like, "I'll see you." 52 00:03:00,763 --> 00:03:03,640 And… just got in the car and left. 53 00:03:05,727 --> 00:03:08,562 When the cops asked me about it, first fucking thing I said, 54 00:03:09,062 --> 00:03:10,606 "It's gotta be that motherfucker, man." 55 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:16,612 But those Suffolk County cops never did nothing about it. 56 00:03:18,573 --> 00:03:20,574 [somber music playing] 57 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:32,670 [melancholy music playing] 58 00:03:32,753 --> 00:03:37,091 [water running] 59 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:43,264 [Cann] "Unconditional love." 60 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:44,640 [inspirational music playing] 61 00:03:44,723 --> 00:03:45,933 [Cann] What does that mean? 62 00:03:47,018 --> 00:03:49,353 It means you advocate 63 00:03:49,437 --> 00:03:53,650 for someone that is no longer here and doesn't have a voice no more. 64 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:58,947 [reporter] Every day, Melissa Cann is glued to the internet, 65 00:03:59,030 --> 00:04:01,782 looking for any information about her sister's death. 66 00:04:03,492 --> 00:04:06,537 [Cann] Did my sister cry? Did she beg? 67 00:04:07,038 --> 00:04:09,873 Did she say, "Please, please?" Like, "I have kids." Like… 68 00:04:10,457 --> 00:04:13,752 You know, there'll be all those answers that I'm pretty sure 69 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:16,422 the killer won't answer. 70 00:04:16,505 --> 00:04:17,923 [dramatic music playing] 71 00:04:18,007 --> 00:04:20,425 [reporter] But first, police have to catch the killer. 72 00:04:20,509 --> 00:04:24,430 Over the past year, search crews uncovered a total of ten victims. 73 00:04:26,473 --> 00:04:27,975 [suspenseful music playing] 74 00:04:28,059 --> 00:04:30,228 [Kolker] By the beginning of April of 2011, 75 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:32,562 you've got ten unsolved murders. 76 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:37,192 And there were no leads, no suspects, no persons of interest. 77 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,990 This case had the attention of a nation and of the world. 78 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:46,326 A serial killer is stalking his next victim in New York City. 79 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:50,122 [in Japanese] New York, Long Island, a series of murders… 80 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:52,542 [in German] Shannan Gilbert is on her way to meet a client. 81 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:55,086 [in Mandarin] Megan Waterman disappeared in June 2010. 82 00:04:57,504 --> 00:05:01,259 [Kolker] With pressure of several months of media attention 83 00:05:01,341 --> 00:05:04,803 and no answers at all, the police have to respond somehow. 84 00:05:04,887 --> 00:05:06,889 [dramatic music playing] 85 00:05:10,893 --> 00:05:13,396 [indistinct chatter] 86 00:05:13,478 --> 00:05:15,023 -Everybody all set? -[man] Yes, sir. 87 00:05:15,105 --> 00:05:16,064 Okay, let's go. 88 00:05:16,649 --> 00:05:19,319 Today, we're going to discuss some details 89 00:05:19,401 --> 00:05:23,531 regarding the remains discovered by the Suffolk County Police Department. 90 00:05:23,613 --> 00:05:25,908 You can see on this map, 91 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:30,788 original four victims who were discovered in December of 2010 92 00:05:30,872 --> 00:05:36,043 and have subsequently been identified as Miss Costello, Miss Barthelemy, 93 00:05:36,127 --> 00:05:38,295 Miss Barnes, and Miss Waterman. 94 00:05:39,254 --> 00:05:46,220 Continuing on the map, number five found March 29, 2011. 95 00:05:47,305 --> 00:05:51,183 The remains we found in 2011 was a partial set of remains, 96 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:55,605 ultimately identified as a woman named Jessica Taylor. 97 00:05:55,687 --> 00:05:57,064 [tense music playing] 98 00:05:57,148 --> 00:06:00,526 She had a distinctive tattoo that was relevant to identifying her. 99 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:05,072 Her torso had been found in Manorville in 2003, 100 00:06:05,906 --> 00:06:08,867 about 50 miles to the northeast. 101 00:06:10,702 --> 00:06:13,538 Then we found another young adult female, 102 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:18,086 a toddler child, and a male that was dressed in drag. 103 00:06:19,086 --> 00:06:24,384 Forensic anthropologists conclude that the male is more likely Asian 104 00:06:24,466 --> 00:06:27,595 in his late teens to early 20s. 105 00:06:27,677 --> 00:06:31,973 [Cameron] Ninth set was a bag with extremities in it. 106 00:06:32,057 --> 00:06:33,893 And then police found a skull. 107 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:39,731 [Kolker] Now we're faced with ten unsolved murder cases 108 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:41,483 by the spring of 2011. 109 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:45,696 Eleven if you count Shannan, who is still missing. 110 00:06:47,322 --> 00:06:50,492 [man] Are you guys continuing the search, or even more searches going on? 111 00:06:50,576 --> 00:06:54,288 Yeah, we're still concerned about the disappearance of Shannan Gilbert. 112 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:57,332 We're going to continue our efforts to find her. 113 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:01,129 Uh, it's obviously something that we'd like to bring to a conclusion, 114 00:07:01,211 --> 00:07:04,048 both for our investigation and also for her family. 115 00:07:04,132 --> 00:07:07,218 [woman 1] That was so hard to park with the baby, so I had… 116 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:08,468 [woman 2 exclaims] 117 00:07:08,552 --> 00:07:10,221 How are you? 118 00:07:11,596 --> 00:07:14,182 [inspirational music playing] 119 00:07:14,266 --> 00:07:19,271 [Kolker] All of the victims' families, they all came to New York to speak out. 120 00:07:21,023 --> 00:07:22,899 I met them all. I got them all together 121 00:07:22,983 --> 00:07:26,028 with, you know, a tape recorder, like I was a talk show host, 122 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:29,406 sort of getting them all talking to one another and comparing notes. 123 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,576 [Barthelemy] When they went missing, it was just a single… 124 00:07:32,659 --> 00:07:35,204 as they call it, a single prostitute and they just… 125 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:37,497 [Cann] And we only had one voice. But now we're… 126 00:07:37,581 --> 00:07:39,082 [Barthelemy] Right, now we're together. 127 00:07:39,167 --> 00:07:42,336 [Cann] One, two, three, four, five, six, seven-plus voices. 128 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:49,886 [Ela] I wanted to see where they found my daughter 129 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:53,639 and to pay my respects, to finally say goodbye to her. 130 00:07:55,641 --> 00:08:00,103 We're also here to celebrate the lives of these women. 131 00:08:01,396 --> 00:08:04,524 I finally was able to see where my sister was found. 132 00:08:05,317 --> 00:08:09,197 In a sense, I was scared and I was sad. 133 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:14,367 But it also was a point of healing. 134 00:08:15,452 --> 00:08:17,872 [melancholy music playing] 135 00:08:17,954 --> 00:08:19,040 [women laughing] 136 00:08:19,122 --> 00:08:22,250 [reporter 1] Melissa's mother sends this message to the killer. 137 00:08:23,002 --> 00:08:28,382 You're a very weak man. You prey on small, innocent girls. 138 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:32,135 And we're gonna get you. 139 00:08:33,178 --> 00:08:36,432 [reporter 2] This was supposed to be a final goodbye to all the girls, 140 00:08:36,515 --> 00:08:40,644 but with Shannan Gilbert still missing, family members say they will continue 141 00:08:40,727 --> 00:08:43,480 to return to this site as long as it takes. 142 00:08:43,563 --> 00:08:46,317 [Gilbert] She is out there. She is missing. 143 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:51,989 And our family and our friends, we're gonna find her, 144 00:08:52,072 --> 00:08:56,118 and we're gonna find out who hurt Shannan and all the others. 145 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,746 [Kolker] While I was reporting that year, 146 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:02,667 I can't tell you the number of times people would say to me, 147 00:09:02,750 --> 00:09:05,836 "Why haven't they searched the marsh in Oak Beach?" 148 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:08,923 Which is really the last spot where Shannan had been seen. 149 00:09:09,005 --> 00:09:11,008 [tense music playing] 150 00:09:12,217 --> 00:09:16,013 [Cameron] In 2010, we never thoroughly searched the Oak Beach marsh. 151 00:09:16,096 --> 00:09:18,932 That particular area was wet, soggy ground. 152 00:09:19,517 --> 00:09:23,229 The water was brackish and cold. It was a very hazardous environment. 153 00:09:24,563 --> 00:09:27,774 And to dedicate that amount of resources 154 00:09:27,857 --> 00:09:30,986 when it was just a mystery as to what happened to her, 155 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:33,114 it was just not something that we did. 156 00:09:34,573 --> 00:09:35,991 [Kolker] It's just amazing to me. 157 00:09:36,075 --> 00:09:40,120 You know, she goes to Joe Brewer's house at Oak Beach. 158 00:09:40,203 --> 00:09:42,289 She runs around and runs around. 159 00:09:42,914 --> 00:09:46,918 And there's a marsh that's right here, and she's last seen right here, 160 00:09:47,003 --> 00:09:50,130 and for 19 months, they never searched this marsh. 161 00:09:50,213 --> 00:09:51,966 They don't come anywhere near it. 162 00:09:52,048 --> 00:09:53,049 [woman whimpering] 163 00:09:53,134 --> 00:09:54,467 [Kolker] It's just stunning. 164 00:09:56,636 --> 00:09:59,347 I can't comment on how they're working the case 165 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:02,183 because they're not working the case. 166 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:06,605 [Kolker] And then suddenly, there were glimmers in the media 167 00:10:08,356 --> 00:10:11,610 saying that the police were going to search the marsh finally. 168 00:10:13,988 --> 00:10:16,365 [wind blowing] 169 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,034 [suspenseful music playing] 170 00:10:23,288 --> 00:10:27,500 In December of 2011, police resumed the search for Shannan Gilbert. 171 00:10:28,293 --> 00:10:30,587 [indistinct police radio chatter] 172 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:35,051 [Gallucci] Then right in the area where she was last seen… 173 00:10:35,676 --> 00:10:38,721 -[dog barking] -…they find someone's belongings. 174 00:10:38,803 --> 00:10:40,931 [dramatic music playing] 175 00:10:41,014 --> 00:10:43,267 [reporter] Right now, police on Long Island, New York, 176 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:47,395 finding key evidence in their search for a missing New Jersey woman. 177 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,273 [reporter 2] Police think that they have found 178 00:10:49,356 --> 00:10:50,816 some of her belongings, 179 00:10:50,899 --> 00:10:52,360 but they haven't found her. 180 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:55,528 [Gilbert] I am just waiting to be contacted 181 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:59,908 by authorities to identify any items that they think may be hers. 182 00:10:59,991 --> 00:11:01,494 I hope it's not. 183 00:11:01,576 --> 00:11:04,330 I'm always giving out hope that we'll find her alive. 184 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:09,125 [Gallucci] Police confirmed they found her pocketbook, her ID, 185 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:13,254 her jeans, her cell phone, and her shoes in the marsh. 186 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:15,341 [melancholy music playing] 187 00:11:15,924 --> 00:11:17,884 [Cameron] That changed the whole dynamic. 188 00:11:18,802 --> 00:11:20,971 That triggered the all-in search. 189 00:11:21,054 --> 00:11:22,514 [helicopter whirring] 190 00:11:22,597 --> 00:11:23,640 [dramatic music playing] 191 00:11:23,724 --> 00:11:25,558 [reporter] In the mud, water, and brush 192 00:11:25,643 --> 00:11:27,852 that has grown taller than the average person, 193 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:30,230 authorities said because they found some of Gilbert's items, 194 00:11:30,313 --> 00:11:32,066 officers will continue to search 195 00:11:32,149 --> 00:11:34,527 the gated community of Oak Beach, Long Island. 196 00:11:36,611 --> 00:11:38,780 [Cameron] It's an extremely difficult area to work. 197 00:11:38,864 --> 00:11:41,491 There are reeds that are taller than your head. 198 00:11:41,575 --> 00:11:45,745 We've had officers abruptly drop to their waist or deeper in that muck, 199 00:11:45,830 --> 00:11:48,665 and they've been unable to extricate themselves. 200 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:53,879 They brought in huge vehicles to get through that marsh, 201 00:11:53,962 --> 00:11:55,548 to get through the brush. 202 00:11:58,717 --> 00:12:01,302 [Cameron] I believe that was close to 100 acres. 203 00:12:01,886 --> 00:12:04,432 You know, it took days of searching to get through. 204 00:12:08,436 --> 00:12:13,399 [Gallucci] As the search keeps continuing, it's getting very close to the anniversary 205 00:12:13,481 --> 00:12:15,900 of when the Gilgo Four were found. 206 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:17,110 [melancholy music playing] 207 00:12:17,193 --> 00:12:19,488 [Gallucci] So the victims' families were there 208 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:22,658 to remember their sisters, their daughters. 209 00:12:23,283 --> 00:12:25,411 [reporter] Families spent the day here in Oak Beach 210 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:29,248 as police searched this area behind me for the remains of Shannan Gilbert. 211 00:12:29,331 --> 00:12:31,250 They said they wanted to be near the area 212 00:12:31,332 --> 00:12:34,879 where police found the bodies of their loved ones a year ago. 213 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:40,049 I was at the press conference at Oak Beach, 214 00:12:40,134 --> 00:12:42,344 and it seemed like something big was happening. 215 00:12:42,427 --> 00:12:43,678 [suspenseful music playing] 216 00:12:45,806 --> 00:12:51,479 We had just left here putting crosses in with the four vic-- The four girls. 217 00:12:51,562 --> 00:12:53,313 As we drove by, we'd seen 218 00:12:53,397 --> 00:12:56,192 whatever they call that big machine down there. 219 00:12:56,274 --> 00:12:58,067 And there was somebody cutting brush down, 220 00:12:58,152 --> 00:13:00,321 and we knew they were searching for somebody in there. 221 00:13:00,403 --> 00:13:02,697 We became sick to our stomachs. 222 00:13:03,448 --> 00:13:05,868 [Gallucci] We expected something big to be announced, 223 00:13:06,368 --> 00:13:10,914 and it kind of leaked to the press before, but we didn't have official confirmation. 224 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:13,833 Could this be Shannan Gilbert? 225 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:17,546 I… I didn't want to believe that. 226 00:13:18,755 --> 00:13:20,758 [melancholy music playing] 227 00:13:26,429 --> 00:13:27,889 [Gilbert] I got a phone call, 228 00:13:28,682 --> 00:13:31,684 and they told me that they think they found Shannan. 229 00:13:36,315 --> 00:13:38,067 And at first, I was hesitant. 230 00:13:39,692 --> 00:13:41,861 I… I've heard it so many times before. 231 00:13:42,403 --> 00:13:44,405 [sad music playing] 232 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:53,874 [Kolker] That day, the police confirmed 233 00:13:53,957 --> 00:13:57,253 that the remains found were Shannan Gilbert. 234 00:13:58,629 --> 00:14:03,299 [indistinct chatter] 235 00:14:04,426 --> 00:14:05,427 I can't even talk. 236 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:08,889 I don't even have words to say how I'm feeling right now. 237 00:14:16,105 --> 00:14:21,192 As much as today may be Shannan, it's not just Shannan. 238 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:22,485 It's all of us. 239 00:14:33,998 --> 00:14:36,792 [Kolker] Shannan Gilbert's body was found naked 240 00:14:37,375 --> 00:14:40,461 a half a mile away from where she was last seen, 241 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:43,548 but very far away from her belongings, 242 00:14:43,631 --> 00:14:45,967 and it launched all sorts of theories. 243 00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:47,970 Did someone dump her there, 244 00:14:48,052 --> 00:14:51,347 or did she flail her way through the marsh 245 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:54,809 because she saw the lights from the highway on the far side, 246 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,604 and thought she could get there? 247 00:14:56,687 --> 00:14:57,730 [tense music playing] 248 00:14:57,812 --> 00:15:00,816 This may be just a young lady ran into the brush 249 00:15:01,692 --> 00:15:06,113 in a hysterical state and fell down 250 00:15:06,196 --> 00:15:09,198 and, you know, expired for some reason. 251 00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:12,702 [woman] Do you think she accidentally drowned in that muck? 252 00:15:12,785 --> 00:15:15,581 Yes, that's… That's… It looks like that right now. 253 00:15:15,663 --> 00:15:18,583 When you look at the terrain, that's possibly what happened. 254 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:20,878 [Kolker] The police were saying 255 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:24,088 that Shannan Gilbert's death was accidental. 256 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:27,384 Everyone was amazed to think 257 00:15:27,467 --> 00:15:30,678 that the police would assume this without any investigation. 258 00:15:31,846 --> 00:15:33,222 Dormer's talking out of his ass. 259 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:34,767 Shannan was murdered. 260 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:36,894 Somebody stripped her clothes off 261 00:15:36,976 --> 00:15:39,104 because they did not want Shannan to be found. 262 00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:43,232 [Gallucci] She was found without her jeans on. 263 00:15:44,025 --> 00:15:48,029 Any woman knows it's incredibly difficult to remove wet jeans, 264 00:15:48,113 --> 00:15:50,115 and she was running for her life. 265 00:15:50,198 --> 00:15:52,659 Would it make sense for her to stop in the middle of this marsh 266 00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:54,577 and rip off a pair of wet jeans? 267 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:55,578 [woman yelping] 268 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:57,623 [Gallucci] It would make more sense to me 269 00:15:57,706 --> 00:16:00,333 that her jeans were removed by somebody else. 270 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:04,587 [Cameron] I've heard some people make an issue that her pants were off, 271 00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:06,506 so it had to be foul play. 272 00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:10,427 But there's something called paradoxical undressing. 273 00:16:10,510 --> 00:16:14,181 When you get hypothermic, about 20 to 50% of people 274 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:17,850 feel as though they're extremely hot in the late stages of hypothermia. 275 00:16:17,934 --> 00:16:21,437 Even in the Arctic, they've found people that have stripped their clothes off. 276 00:16:23,565 --> 00:16:25,942 [man] Do you still believe it was an accident at this point? 277 00:16:26,025 --> 00:16:32,365 No, no, I will not believe that for the simple fact that… 278 00:16:35,911 --> 00:16:37,370 Shannan was a strong woman. 279 00:16:40,749 --> 00:16:43,793 I think it's too coincidental that Shannan was found 280 00:16:43,876 --> 00:16:45,504 where the other victims were found. 281 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:51,259 There's more that connects Shannan to the murders 282 00:16:51,342 --> 00:16:53,971 than does not connect Shannan to the murders. 283 00:16:55,179 --> 00:16:56,932 [camera shutters clicking] 284 00:16:57,015 --> 00:16:59,768 [indistinct chatter] 285 00:16:59,851 --> 00:17:02,312 Okay. When you're ready, I'm ready. 286 00:17:02,395 --> 00:17:05,566 Today we have met with the medical examiner 287 00:17:05,648 --> 00:17:08,861 and the, uh, doctor in the medical examiner's office 288 00:17:08,943 --> 00:17:13,781 who performed the investigation of Shannan Gilbert's death. 289 00:17:14,825 --> 00:17:16,410 There was a lot of hope going into 290 00:17:16,492 --> 00:17:19,371 the medical examiner analysis of Shannan's remains. 291 00:17:19,454 --> 00:17:21,832 I was optimistic when I first walked in, 292 00:17:21,914 --> 00:17:24,500 but now I'm more frustrated and angry than ever. 293 00:17:24,585 --> 00:17:25,836 All I got was… 294 00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:29,298 betrayal. 295 00:17:30,548 --> 00:17:34,344 The county medical examiner determined that the cause of death 296 00:17:34,427 --> 00:17:37,931 and manner of death of Shannan Gilbert was "undetermined." 297 00:17:40,058 --> 00:17:43,686 The particular facts here are sex workers all found in the same area 298 00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:47,148 and all but one determined to have been a homicide, 299 00:17:47,231 --> 00:17:51,444 and this one complaining of an imminent homicide, 300 00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:53,864 how can one say that it's inconclusive? 301 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:58,576 I came to think that there was willful ignorance here. 302 00:17:58,660 --> 00:18:01,872 Willful neglect. Meaning intentional neglect. 303 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:11,798 So we wanted to do another examination beyond what the medical examiner had done 304 00:18:12,298 --> 00:18:14,759 because we didn't have faith in what she'd done. 305 00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:18,888 [reporter] New York forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, 306 00:18:18,971 --> 00:18:22,643 investigated serial killers Joel Rifkin 307 00:18:22,726 --> 00:18:25,895 and the notorious Son of Sam killing, David Berkowitz. 308 00:18:26,688 --> 00:18:29,357 [reporter 2] Now Dr. Michael Baden has taken on the case. 309 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,653 [Ray] In his report, it was consistent with homicide 310 00:18:33,737 --> 00:18:38,241 and he said that her death was inconsistent with natural causes. 311 00:18:38,325 --> 00:18:40,076 [tense music playing] 312 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:46,208 [Dr. Baden] There is damage to the hyoid bone and the windpipe. 313 00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:48,251 Those are the two bones in the neck 314 00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:51,462 that get injured and fractured in strangulation. 315 00:18:51,547 --> 00:18:54,465 One has to seriously consider that she was strangled 316 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:55,675 and this is a homicide. 317 00:18:57,301 --> 00:19:00,221 [Ray] There were red flags one after the other after the other 318 00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:06,394 as to what was not looked into by the police for years on this case. 319 00:19:07,019 --> 00:19:09,605 The question becomes, "Well, what about the others"? 320 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:12,608 Can you deny that they're all sex workers 321 00:19:12,692 --> 00:19:17,698 laying in what's really an extended common grave of Ocean Parkway? 322 00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:22,035 That some of their torsos are found in Hempstead and Manorville 323 00:19:22,118 --> 00:19:26,038 and other parts of Long Island, with their heads and hands, arms and so on 324 00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:30,460 being found along Ocean Parkway, in this similar or same places? 325 00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:32,837 How do you say that that's mere coincidence? 326 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:34,798 [keyboard clacking] 327 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,259 [Gallucci] I always felt like the Gilgo victims 328 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:39,510 were related to the Manorville victims. 329 00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:42,847 So I did a story linking the homicides. 330 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,683 [melancholy music playing] 331 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:51,647 [Gallucci] One was mostly just talking about, like, 332 00:19:51,731 --> 00:19:53,650 "Since you're paying attention to these cases now 333 00:19:53,733 --> 00:19:55,109 because there's a serial killer, 334 00:19:55,193 --> 00:19:58,363 pay attention to these cases that have been cold for so long." 335 00:19:58,447 --> 00:20:00,574 [tense music playing] 336 00:20:00,656 --> 00:20:05,746 Out of the new victims that were found, they were able to identify Jessica Taylor. 337 00:20:06,329 --> 00:20:10,125 And she had a lot of similarities to The Gilgo Four. 338 00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:12,961 They were young women in their 20s. 339 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:16,173 They worked as sex workers, and they were very petite. 340 00:20:16,798 --> 00:20:19,300 Jessica Taylor was also last seen working 341 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:21,595 near the Port Authority in Midtown Manhattan. 342 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:28,602 It was very similar to the disappearances of Melissa Barthelemy 343 00:20:28,684 --> 00:20:31,104 and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who also disappeared 344 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:32,647 from the New York City area. 345 00:20:33,481 --> 00:20:36,151 Based on cell phone records, police believe 346 00:20:36,234 --> 00:20:39,820 that the suspect worked in Midtown and lived locally on Long Island. 347 00:20:42,156 --> 00:20:45,451 Both Jessica Taylor and Jane Doe Number Six were dismembered 348 00:20:45,535 --> 00:20:49,664 and their body parts were found on Ocean Parkway in 2011, 349 00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:53,794 and in the early 2000s in the Pine Barrens of Manorville. 350 00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:57,005 So, I was sure they were linked to The Gilgo Four. 351 00:20:57,881 --> 00:20:59,967 I really felt it was the same killer. I just… 352 00:21:00,049 --> 00:21:02,009 I really felt that one person did this. 353 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:12,144 [Kolker] As a reporter going out to cover this case, 354 00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:14,230 people would take me aside and say, 355 00:21:14,314 --> 00:21:16,775 "The thing you need to know about Suffolk County is 356 00:21:16,857 --> 00:21:18,859 that the police this and the district attorney that." 357 00:21:18,943 --> 00:21:22,114 And the first 20 times I would sort of wave it aside saying, 358 00:21:22,655 --> 00:21:25,909 "This is a murder case. I don't want to talk about conspiracy theories." 359 00:21:25,992 --> 00:21:28,577 But after a while, it became clear that these weren't theories. 360 00:21:28,662 --> 00:21:30,247 [melancholy music playing] 361 00:21:30,329 --> 00:21:34,125 [man] In the beginning of the Gilgo Beach investigation, 362 00:21:34,209 --> 00:21:37,503 I started at Newsday as an investigative reporter 363 00:21:37,586 --> 00:21:41,465 looking into police and prosecutorial misconduct. 364 00:21:42,675 --> 00:21:47,055 Suffolk County PD is one of the largest law enforcement jurisdictions 365 00:21:47,138 --> 00:21:48,432 in the United States, 366 00:21:48,515 --> 00:21:52,435 and it's one of the highest paid police forces in the United States. 367 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:56,731 So really it's like hitting the lottery among police departments. 368 00:21:56,815 --> 00:21:59,358 And, with that, I think comes a lot of power. 369 00:22:01,611 --> 00:22:03,571 [Kolker] The police commissioner, Richard Dormer, 370 00:22:03,654 --> 00:22:07,576 who's on the verge of retirement, has been telling people that he thinks 371 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,162 that one killer is probably responsible for them all. 372 00:22:10,244 --> 00:22:14,333 The issue of one killer, two killers, three killers 373 00:22:14,415 --> 00:22:18,920 for the ten remains that have been found has been discussed. 374 00:22:19,628 --> 00:22:22,632 The facts of the case indicate one person. 375 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,721 [Kolker] He doesn't have exact evidence to suggest this. He just sort of says, 376 00:22:27,804 --> 00:22:30,557 "What are the odds that there'd be more than one killer operating 377 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,184 in the same geographic area? It has to be one killer." 378 00:22:33,769 --> 00:22:37,396 But the DA, Thomas Spota, doesn't like that explanation. 379 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,068 When he says that the theory is that there was only one killer, uh, 380 00:22:43,069 --> 00:22:46,405 Uh, I very much disagree with that theory. 381 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:50,326 [Kolker] Spota was relying on the idea that those first four women 382 00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:52,119 who were found in December 383 00:22:52,203 --> 00:22:56,458 were all found as intact skeletons bound in burlap. 384 00:22:56,958 --> 00:23:00,086 There were other remains that were found not so far from there, 385 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,506 but they weren't all intact and there was no burlap. 386 00:23:02,588 --> 00:23:04,799 So he was able, with that information, 387 00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:08,720 to suggest that there's no way to link these people to one killer. 388 00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:12,432 [Spota] The area in and around Gilgo Beach 389 00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:17,604 has been used to discard human remains for some period of time. 390 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:22,108 As distasteful and as disturbing as that is, 391 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:25,153 there is no evidence that all of these remains 392 00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:27,071 are that of a single killer. 393 00:23:28,155 --> 00:23:29,407 I was just shocked. 394 00:23:30,282 --> 00:23:32,661 Ocean Parkway could have been a dumping ground, 395 00:23:32,743 --> 00:23:34,371 but it could also be 396 00:23:34,453 --> 00:23:37,332 that the killer's been leaving body parts there for years, 397 00:23:37,415 --> 00:23:39,291 and no one's ever found them. 398 00:23:39,375 --> 00:23:43,130 And he got comfortable, and he adapted and he learned. 399 00:23:44,005 --> 00:23:46,715 So it just seemed way too early in the investigation for Spota 400 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,885 to completely shut out the theory that there was only one killer. 401 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,846 [tense music playing] 402 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:53,472 [Kolker] Most mysterious thing 403 00:23:53,557 --> 00:23:56,518 was why would a district attorney openly go to war 404 00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:59,729 with the police commissioner in front of everybody 405 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:02,773 at a press conference where the whole world is watching? 406 00:24:05,234 --> 00:24:08,779 [Cann] Watching you guys publicly go back and forth to each other, 407 00:24:08,864 --> 00:24:11,407 how do you expect us to trust in you? 408 00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:14,577 Nobody knew. "Is there more than one serial killer?" 409 00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:17,288 "What's happening here?" 410 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:21,000 [Kolker] This is a DA that wants to control the police department. 411 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:26,047 This is the biggest case to happen, uh, to this police force in a generation, 412 00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:28,340 and he's not about to let Commissioner Dormer, 413 00:24:28,424 --> 00:24:31,970 who is on his way out, and he can't control, run away with it. 414 00:24:35,557 --> 00:24:38,727 I think Spota uses his theory, 415 00:24:38,809 --> 00:24:40,979 which is based on little more than a hunch, 416 00:24:41,061 --> 00:24:44,148 to dissent from Dormer 417 00:24:44,231 --> 00:24:48,403 in order to establish himself as the person in power. 418 00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:54,784 [Kolker] Just a few weeks after Shannan's body was found, 419 00:24:55,785 --> 00:24:59,079 the police commissioner, Richard Dormer, he was gone, he retired. 420 00:24:59,163 --> 00:25:03,876 There was an incoming county executive, and he appointed new leadership. 421 00:25:04,794 --> 00:25:07,213 When I came into office, 422 00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:10,967 I'm looking to see, "Okay, how am I gonna set leadership in this department?" 423 00:25:12,176 --> 00:25:15,638 A couple of people that I respected very much, 424 00:25:15,721 --> 00:25:19,601 recommended strongly somebody by the name of Jim Burke. 425 00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:24,396 Jim Burke worked in Tom Spota's office for ten years. 426 00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:28,067 He was head of investigations for that office 427 00:25:28,151 --> 00:25:31,320 and Tom Spota highly recommended him. 428 00:25:31,403 --> 00:25:36,535 Spota was a highly respected, well-regarded district attorney. 429 00:25:36,617 --> 00:25:37,826 That says a lot to you. 430 00:25:37,911 --> 00:25:39,954 [tense music playing] 431 00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:43,959 [Cameron] He went from inspector to being a DA's officer to chief of department, 432 00:25:44,041 --> 00:25:46,377 which is about a four rank jump. 433 00:25:46,961 --> 00:25:48,505 The highest sworn rank. 434 00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:52,800 [Garcia-Roberts] Burke, throughout his career, 435 00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:56,887 he was known to be a troubled officer, who was chased by scandal. 436 00:25:56,971 --> 00:26:01,351 He had more than a dozen Internal Affairs complaints against him. 437 00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:08,148 And so to put that underqualified, scandal-plagued officer 438 00:26:08,232 --> 00:26:10,902 at the top of one of the largest jurisdictions 439 00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:14,405 in the United States, was a completely shocking move. 440 00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:16,490 [melancholy music playing] 441 00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:21,121 Tonight, we will present our first 442 00:26:21,203 --> 00:26:24,249 Thomas J. Spota Prosecutor of the Year Award. 443 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:28,586 The award is named in honor of Thomas Spota, 444 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:31,964 District Attorney of Suffolk County since 2002. 445 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,884 [Garcia-Roberts] Thomas Spota goes way back in Suffolk County. 446 00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:41,766 He got his start as a prosecutor in the 1970s. 447 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:46,688 He spends two decades as this kind of headline-making prosecutor. 448 00:26:47,814 --> 00:26:50,900 I started looking into the past 449 00:26:50,983 --> 00:26:55,572 of how Jimmy Burke and Tom Spota came to operate as a pair. 450 00:26:58,282 --> 00:27:00,910 And the reporting just became more and more disturbing 451 00:27:00,993 --> 00:27:02,578 the more that I looked into it. 452 00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:04,497 [somber music playing] 453 00:27:04,580 --> 00:27:06,165 This really is a horrible story. 454 00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:08,917 Teenage boy disappeared on a bicycle Friday night 455 00:27:09,001 --> 00:27:11,421 and then was found murdered the next day. 456 00:27:11,503 --> 00:27:15,799 [Garcia-Roberts] On April, 1979, there's this horrific discovery made. 457 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:21,472 A 13-year-old boy named Johnny Pius is found dead in the schoolyard 458 00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:23,182 beaten and trampled, 459 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:27,604 and most disturbingly, stones stuffed down his throat. 460 00:27:29,021 --> 00:27:32,651 It's this really shocking crime in Smithtown, 461 00:27:33,233 --> 00:27:35,236 which is this whole suburban ideal. 462 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:40,909 And so there's a lot of pressure to solve the case by the community, 463 00:27:40,991 --> 00:27:44,078 and that pressure sort of all lands on the desk 464 00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:48,958 of a young, rising prosecutor, Tom Spota. 465 00:27:49,041 --> 00:27:53,505 Pius was found with a sneaker print on his face. 466 00:27:53,587 --> 00:27:56,674 In detectives' minds, who wear sneakers? Kids. 467 00:27:56,758 --> 00:28:01,346 So homicide cops start pulling teenagers off the street 468 00:28:01,429 --> 00:28:03,056 trying to get a confession. 469 00:28:03,138 --> 00:28:06,017 And they eventually find their guy. 470 00:28:06,101 --> 00:28:10,355 A 15-year-old boy scout, who's never been in trouble before, 471 00:28:10,438 --> 00:28:13,692 who confesses in the back of a detective's police car. 472 00:28:13,775 --> 00:28:15,484 [man] Who put the first rocks in his mouth? 473 00:28:15,567 --> 00:28:18,738 [boy] I put one in, my brother put one, and I put another one. 474 00:28:18,821 --> 00:28:23,451 But his confession doesn't really make a ton of logistical sense, 475 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:24,827 and there's almost no chance 476 00:28:24,911 --> 00:28:26,704 that the confession was gonna hold up in court. 477 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:27,830 [tense music playing] 478 00:28:27,913 --> 00:28:31,792 Despite that, Spota sets out to bolster it. 479 00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:35,547 And he does that by trying to make snitches of other kids. 480 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:37,632 Would you state your name for the record? 481 00:28:37,715 --> 00:28:39,425 In the evening of… 482 00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:44,012 And then this 16-year-old, run-of-the-mill juvenile delinquent, 483 00:28:44,096 --> 00:28:48,308 rescues the case with a very convenient story, 484 00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:50,729 and his name was Jimmy Burke. 485 00:28:53,772 --> 00:28:56,608 Did you hear Danny Culotta ask Michael Quartararo 486 00:28:57,192 --> 00:28:58,903 who killed John Pius? 487 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,446 Uh, he said, 488 00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:04,784 "How could you kill somebody for stealing a minibike?" 489 00:29:04,867 --> 00:29:07,453 "How could someone kill someone for just stealing a minibike?" 490 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:10,330 And did Michael Quatararo respond to that? 491 00:29:10,414 --> 00:29:11,790 Yes, he did. He said, 492 00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:15,795 "If you were drunk and stoned and you didn't wanna get caught, 493 00:29:15,878 --> 00:29:17,630 you would do the same thing." 494 00:29:17,713 --> 00:29:20,884 Burke's word becomes Spota's strongest weapon 495 00:29:20,967 --> 00:29:22,760 in prosecuting these kids. 496 00:29:24,511 --> 00:29:28,057 [man] Those boys, they go to jail, partially on Burke's testimony. 497 00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:30,643 But when you take a deep dive into it… 498 00:29:31,935 --> 00:29:34,980 They might've cut some corners to get those convictions. 499 00:29:37,025 --> 00:29:40,444 Suffolk County uh, was, during that time, known for a very… 500 00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:43,364 I think it was 95% confession rate on homicides. 501 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:48,619 There's no legitimate way to get confessions in that amount of cases. 502 00:29:48,702 --> 00:29:52,499 That likely indicates that these confessions 503 00:29:52,582 --> 00:29:55,250 may be dubious at best. 504 00:29:55,335 --> 00:30:00,757 And when you read the testimony of Burke, it's hard to avoid any conclusion 505 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:06,637 other than that Burke is saying exactly what he thinks Tom Spota wants him to say. 506 00:30:07,513 --> 00:30:11,226 And it was central to what, in my opinion, 507 00:30:11,308 --> 00:30:15,313 was most likely wrongful convictions in the Pius case. 508 00:30:17,272 --> 00:30:19,858 [Trotta] This case sets the relationship up 509 00:30:19,942 --> 00:30:24,364 between Jimmy Burke and Tom Spota for the next 30 years. 510 00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:29,451 Jimmy Burke becomes a city cop, and then he became a Suffolk County cop. 511 00:30:30,118 --> 00:30:31,663 He rises up through the ranks. 512 00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:35,666 Tom Spota takes Jimmy Burke over as the commanding officer 513 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:38,961 of the district attorney squad in the DA's office. 514 00:30:39,753 --> 00:30:42,589 And now Burke was the chief of police, 515 00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:46,510 in one of the most powerful positions in Suffolk County, 516 00:30:47,052 --> 00:30:50,597 and in charge of the Gilgo Beach investigation. 517 00:30:52,724 --> 00:30:54,727 [Kolker] Right after James Burke arrived, 518 00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:57,855 they stopped collaborating with Nassau County, the neighboring county. 519 00:30:57,939 --> 00:30:59,982 They never collaborated with the state police. 520 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:02,234 They didn't collaborate with the local sheriff's office. 521 00:31:02,317 --> 00:31:08,907 In fact, the FBI was finishing up a first round of cell phone data analysis, 522 00:31:08,991 --> 00:31:12,161 and they were ready to come and continue work on it. 523 00:31:12,244 --> 00:31:17,375 And when they arrived, Tom Spota, the DA, sent them away. 524 00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:20,420 saying that their work wasn't relevant to the investigation. 525 00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:23,172 [suspenseful music playing] 526 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,508 [Trotta] I was a Suffolk County detective 527 00:31:25,592 --> 00:31:28,219 who was assigned to the FBI Violent Crimes Task Force 528 00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:30,930 when Burke became the chief of department. 529 00:31:31,972 --> 00:31:34,933 I was told from a high-ranking police officer 530 00:31:35,018 --> 00:31:38,938 that they wanted subpoenas for a cell tower dump 531 00:31:39,021 --> 00:31:43,776 of every phone that was hitting off X cell tower and Y cell tower, 532 00:31:43,859 --> 00:31:46,778 because that's how you determine where a burner phone comes from. 533 00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:49,531 That was not granted by Burke. 534 00:31:50,782 --> 00:31:52,785 Burke said, "That's too invasive." 535 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:58,290 [Hart] You know, pretty early on, after Jim Burke was chief of department, 536 00:31:58,374 --> 00:32:02,921 it was apparent that neither he nor the district attorney, Tom Spota, 537 00:32:03,003 --> 00:32:04,838 wanted the Bureau involved. 538 00:32:05,464 --> 00:32:08,259 There was a lot of work done on the cell phones early on. 539 00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:12,012 And then it kind of, you know… It kind of dissipated after that. 540 00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:16,183 [man] Detectives were also obstructed 541 00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:19,729 from providing information to the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit 542 00:32:19,811 --> 00:32:24,150 to assist with the analysis, the profiling of the killer. 543 00:32:25,192 --> 00:32:28,820 And that was the doing of Tom Spota and James Burke. 544 00:32:30,239 --> 00:32:33,116 [interviewer] Can you talk about the memo that you… That you saw there? 545 00:32:37,872 --> 00:32:40,708 This is a, uh, a department directive 546 00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:44,461 assigned by James C. Burke, Chief of Department. 547 00:32:45,922 --> 00:32:48,548 And it states that when a member of the service is contacted 548 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:51,344 by a member of an outside law enforcement agency, 549 00:32:51,426 --> 00:32:55,347 the member must notify a supervisor at the first possible instance. 550 00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:58,768 Basically, they didn't want anybody talking to the FBI anymore. 551 00:33:00,853 --> 00:33:04,147 It's like, you know, the FBI is offering to help you. 552 00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:08,361 They're giving you the people. They're paying for the expense. 553 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:12,406 But Jimmy Burke didn't want the FBI involved in Suffolk County 554 00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:13,865 in any way, shape, or form. 555 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,828 You know… It's a why. "Why would you do that?" 556 00:33:21,415 --> 00:33:23,375 -[camera shutters clicking] -[indistinct chatter] 557 00:33:23,459 --> 00:33:24,501 [Ray] Good morning. 558 00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:30,424 We are here today because there has now been a significant development 559 00:33:30,508 --> 00:33:35,555 in the Oak Beach, Gilgo Beach murder or murders case. 560 00:33:36,346 --> 00:33:41,019 Leanne met chief of police of Suffolk County, James Burke, 561 00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:47,775 at a party in Oak Beach in 2011, and she had sexual relations with Burke, 562 00:33:48,776 --> 00:33:49,861 for which he paid. 563 00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:54,824 We started to engage in, uh, sexual behavior. Um… 564 00:33:55,365 --> 00:33:59,996 He was, uh, frustrated because he could not consummate the act. 565 00:34:00,078 --> 00:34:03,540 Uh, he began to get really aggressive, 566 00:34:04,041 --> 00:34:08,795 um, and he used, uh, the term that I was not a "good whore." 567 00:34:11,798 --> 00:34:15,469 [man 1] And this happened after the investigation was already underway? 568 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:20,391 [Leanne] The first time I had met him in passing was in April 2011, 569 00:34:20,474 --> 00:34:24,644 and then August 2011 is when we had our mini tryst. 570 00:34:24,728 --> 00:34:27,565 [man 2] Did Burke mention anything about the Gilgo case at all? 571 00:34:27,648 --> 00:34:29,192 Like maybe in a joke or…? 572 00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:31,568 No, but he seemed to like to choke me. 573 00:34:32,402 --> 00:34:34,362 [man 3] How would you characterize his behavior? 574 00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:35,572 Aggressive. 575 00:34:36,865 --> 00:34:38,992 [Garcia-Roberts] Throughout his career, Burke is dogged 576 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:44,581 by Internal Affairs investigations involving allegations that he did drugs 577 00:34:46,083 --> 00:34:50,253 and that he carried on relationships with sex workers. 578 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:52,380 [tense music playing] 579 00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,635 [Trotta] So Internal Affairs does an investigation into Burke. 580 00:34:55,717 --> 00:34:58,512 Burke comes in with a lawyer. 581 00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:01,224 Guess who his lawyer was. 582 00:35:01,306 --> 00:35:02,516 Tom Spota. 583 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:07,813 Not only was he not fired, he wasn't demoted. 584 00:35:09,898 --> 00:35:14,402 So you have a serial murderer killing prostitutes on Long Island, 585 00:35:15,487 --> 00:35:18,949 and your police chief is a guy who patronizes prostitutes. 586 00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:21,327 You know, everyone said it was like… 587 00:35:21,409 --> 00:35:25,539 All the cops amongst ourselves would say, "It's a joke. He doesn't care about that." 588 00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:29,710 He would call them "misdemeanor murders," where they really weren't important. 589 00:35:29,793 --> 00:35:32,880 They're not a high priority. They're just prostitutes. 590 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,134 [Kolker] It was very easy for conspiracy theories 591 00:35:36,217 --> 00:35:38,719 to blossom in a moment like this. 592 00:35:38,802 --> 00:35:42,472 "Maybe he's affiliated with the serial killer in some way." 593 00:35:42,556 --> 00:35:46,768 "He's slowing down the investigation because he's covering up for his friends." 594 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:49,938 [Trotta] There was a lot of conjecture that Jimmy Burke was involved. 595 00:35:50,021 --> 00:35:53,067 If you look at the fact pattern, patronizing prostitutes, 596 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,402 strangling women, allegations, 597 00:35:55,485 --> 00:35:58,780 it doesn't take a stretch to think that maybe he's involved. 598 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,871 [Gallucci] We had somebody who was specifically targeting sex workers 599 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:08,791 and for the bulk of this investigation, especially under Jimmy Burke, 600 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,460 this was a community that was largely ignored. 601 00:36:13,211 --> 00:36:17,757 [Sini] You know, one aspect in victimizing marginalized individuals, 602 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:24,222 is that perpetrators feel a sense of safety, protection, 603 00:36:26,141 --> 00:36:31,688 because they feel that the person won't go to law enforcement to report anything. 604 00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:36,193 [Gallucci] Knowing that sex workers might be afraid 605 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:38,237 to come forward with information, 606 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,364 police were not active in reaching out to them 607 00:36:40,447 --> 00:36:43,242 and making them feel comfortable coming forward. 608 00:36:44,076 --> 00:36:48,623 So they weren't really utilizing the community of people 609 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:53,085 who probably are the most valuable assets in solving these cases 610 00:36:55,045 --> 00:36:57,672 and leads were slipping through the cracks. 611 00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,759 [melancholy music playing] 612 00:37:03,094 --> 00:37:05,639 -[dance music playing in bar] -[indistinct chatter] 613 00:37:05,722 --> 00:37:07,557 [somber music playing] 614 00:37:14,106 --> 00:37:17,777 [woman] There is the one date that stands out to me. 615 00:37:20,112 --> 00:37:23,740 I remember the entire date vividly 616 00:37:23,824 --> 00:37:26,159 because I never felt that kind of fear. 617 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,246 [suspenseful music playing] 618 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:39,005 When I tell you this is like, a massive man, like, he was gigantic. 619 00:37:40,632 --> 00:37:45,221 At first, we started talking, kind of basic talk. 620 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,641 And then he looked at me and he asked, 621 00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:51,143 "Have you heard about the Gilgo Beach killings"? 622 00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:53,853 His body language changed. 623 00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:57,440 It seemed like he was excited to talk about it 624 00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:03,155 because he would talk in numbers, like, "Girl Number One, Girl Number Two." 625 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,490 It was very dehumanizing. 626 00:38:06,784 --> 00:38:09,577 And then he said to me, "Well, how do you think 627 00:38:09,661 --> 00:38:14,666 they get rid of the bodies at night without being noticed?" 628 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,505 He was like, "I live right by there. It's really dark and secluded." 629 00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,342 And then goes, 630 00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:26,554 "So, are you gonna come over with me?" 631 00:38:27,596 --> 00:38:32,268 I had a really, really bad gut feeling that I needed to get out of there. 632 00:38:32,934 --> 00:38:35,855 And I texted my friend to meet me in the parking lot. 633 00:38:37,231 --> 00:38:41,902 And I said, "I think I'm on a date with the Gilgo Beach killer." 634 00:38:47,949 --> 00:38:49,784 I was so freaked out by it. 635 00:38:51,036 --> 00:38:53,289 And if you look at my pictures from then, 636 00:38:53,371 --> 00:38:57,460 I look very similar to what his taste in women was. 637 00:38:57,543 --> 00:39:00,211 I was like 120 pounds, 5'5". 638 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:02,340 And it's scary. 639 00:39:03,465 --> 00:39:06,092 But at the time I was on probation. 640 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:11,014 So there was no chance I was walking into a police station. 641 00:39:11,097 --> 00:39:12,766 They would have arrested me. 642 00:39:14,434 --> 00:39:16,353 [interviewer] So if there had been an open call 643 00:39:16,436 --> 00:39:17,980 from Suffolk County to say, 644 00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:22,400 "Come in, give us any information, you'd be safe," would you have done it? 645 00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:23,318 Yeah. 646 00:39:24,402 --> 00:39:26,364 Especially with the stuff he said. 647 00:39:26,447 --> 00:39:27,447 [melancholy music playing] 648 00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:29,574 [Brass] It just chilled me to the core. 649 00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:48,302 [indistinct chatter] 650 00:39:48,385 --> 00:39:51,429 [Ela] Why am I doing this memorial again? 651 00:39:52,556 --> 00:39:54,974 Because I need to keep Amber, Megan, Maureen, Melissa, 652 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:59,438 Shannan, Jessica Taylor, and all the unidentified people out there. 653 00:39:59,521 --> 00:40:03,858 I need people to realize that justice hasn't been served. 654 00:40:03,943 --> 00:40:07,445 Have you gotten any updates from police, from investigators? 655 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:10,574 Um, honestly, Suffolk County Police Department 656 00:40:10,657 --> 00:40:11,784 have not talked to me. 657 00:40:11,867 --> 00:40:15,871 I am at the point right now of setting up a PayPal account 658 00:40:15,954 --> 00:40:19,583 to try to get donations to hire a private investigator myself. 659 00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:21,376 [somber music playing] 660 00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:24,255 For a few years, it just kind of seemed pretty quiet. 661 00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:29,175 I was advised not to post things for my safety 662 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:32,012 or to have my profile public. 663 00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:36,182 But I was always like, "I'm gonna do it because if this person wants to find me 664 00:40:36,266 --> 00:40:38,351 or contact me again, I'm going to let them." 665 00:40:39,561 --> 00:40:42,856 You can know I'm always gonna be watching and waiting. 666 00:40:44,315 --> 00:40:48,653 That was the easiest, closest way to possibly catch him. 667 00:40:48,737 --> 00:40:50,739 [melancholy music playing] 668 00:40:57,496 --> 00:40:59,539 [tense music playing] 669 00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:00,833 A stunning arrest today. 670 00:41:01,416 --> 00:41:05,753 A man who has lived for 20 years in a quiet Suffolk County neighborhood 671 00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:09,382 is tonight charged with two women killed two decades ago. 672 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,302 Suddenly there's a new interesting development 673 00:41:11,385 --> 00:41:12,260 out on Long Island. 674 00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:17,474 These two murder victims from unsolved cases back in the '90s 675 00:41:17,557 --> 00:41:21,603 are tied through DNA to a suspect out in Long Island. 676 00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:26,108 [reporter] John Bittrolff has been charged with two counts of second degree murder 677 00:41:26,192 --> 00:41:29,152 for the deaths of 20-year-old Colleen McNamee 678 00:41:29,235 --> 00:41:31,989 and 31-year-old Rita Tangredi. 679 00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:34,449 Both women were known prostitutes. 680 00:41:34,532 --> 00:41:37,494 [reporter 2] Investigators say there could be an additional victim. 681 00:41:37,577 --> 00:41:41,081 [reporter] Bittrolff may be responsible for the December 1993 682 00:41:41,164 --> 00:41:43,751 Southampton murder of Sandra Costilla. 683 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:48,213 All of the women's remains were uniquely positioned 684 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:49,840 in the very same manner, 685 00:41:49,923 --> 00:41:53,260 including Sandra Costilla, the third victim. 686 00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:57,347 John Bittrolff was the prime suspect for the murder of Sandra Costilla, 687 00:41:57,931 --> 00:42:02,978 but the police find no DNA connecting him, so he wasn't charged. 688 00:42:03,811 --> 00:42:07,358 [Kolker] Those bodies were found in the Pine Barrens near Manorville, 689 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,652 which is significant because two of the victims connected 690 00:42:10,735 --> 00:42:13,989 to the Long Island serial killer case are linked to remains 691 00:42:14,072 --> 00:42:15,574 that are out in Manorville. 692 00:42:16,282 --> 00:42:17,867 So, it got everybody talking. 693 00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:20,913 [Gallucci] This man's going after sex workers 694 00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:22,414 and leaving them in the woods. 695 00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:26,918 This is very, very similar to the women who were found on Ocean Parkway. 696 00:42:29,128 --> 00:42:31,257 [Funderburg] I saw that there was an arrest. 697 00:42:31,757 --> 00:42:33,300 It was actually good news for a while. 698 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,177 It's been a while. We needed some good news. 699 00:42:35,260 --> 00:42:39,806 Could this person also be the one who killed our loved ones? 700 00:42:40,932 --> 00:42:42,016 [Gallucci] At the time, 701 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:44,269 the assistant DA believed there was a possible connection 702 00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:47,606 between the Gilgo homicides and John Bittrolff. 703 00:42:48,606 --> 00:42:50,317 But Spota quickly shut that down. 704 00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:55,114 There is no evidentiary or investigative link 705 00:42:55,197 --> 00:42:59,534 between these murders and any of the Gilgo victims. 706 00:43:03,998 --> 00:43:07,668 I was hopeful that we would get just a little closure 707 00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:10,838 on all the spiraling questions and thoughts I've always had. 708 00:43:13,548 --> 00:43:15,925 But… nothing. 709 00:43:21,681 --> 00:43:23,434 What about these other women? 710 00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:25,978 What about Shannan Gilbert? 711 00:43:26,061 --> 00:43:29,188 What about this huge case that's sitting right under your noses? 712 00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:32,192 Why can't you make any headway in the Gilgo case? 713 00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:41,201 [Garcia-Roberts] There's this big question as to why Suffolk County law enforcement 714 00:43:41,284 --> 00:43:43,661 did not make progress on the case. 715 00:43:44,246 --> 00:43:49,001 And I think we now know that one of the main reasons it stagnated 716 00:43:49,083 --> 00:43:53,797 was because rather than focusing on that case, 717 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,385 Burke and other top investigative minds in law enforcement 718 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:03,306 were totally consumed with just trying to keep him out of prison. 719 00:44:03,389 --> 00:44:05,391 [suspenseful music playing] 720 00:44:06,351 --> 00:44:08,228 [Garcia-Roberts] In late 2012… 721 00:44:08,311 --> 00:44:09,938 [glass breaking] 722 00:44:10,021 --> 00:44:13,233 …a petty criminal named Christopher Loeb 723 00:44:13,317 --> 00:44:16,070 and a buddy are breaking into cars in Smithtown. 724 00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:23,369 Christopher Loeb is severely addicted to heroin and other opioids, 725 00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:27,664 and he's breaking into cars to support his habit. 726 00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:33,795 One of the cars that they break into is a black GMC Yukon, 727 00:44:33,878 --> 00:44:38,967 and Loeb steals from that truck a duffel bag. 728 00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:42,096 Takes it back to his house, he starts rifling through it, 729 00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:46,557 finds a gun belt, pornography, and sex toys. 730 00:44:47,934 --> 00:44:52,731 Then he finds that there's union cards that say "chief of department." 731 00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:55,858 And he starts to realize 732 00:44:55,943 --> 00:44:59,905 that this duffel bag belongs to Jimmy Burke. 733 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:06,161 This guy, Christopher Loeb, could be the most unlucky guy on the planet Earth. 734 00:45:06,994 --> 00:45:09,373 He had no idea whose car he was robbing. 735 00:45:10,289 --> 00:45:12,710 So they bring Christopher Loeb into the precinct. 736 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:16,713 [Garcia-Roberts] All of a sudden, top detectives start showing up. 737 00:45:17,297 --> 00:45:22,177 It's basically all hands on deck, even though it's just a car robbery. 738 00:45:23,387 --> 00:45:28,016 Jimmy Burke goes there and in sum and substance slaps him around, 739 00:45:28,099 --> 00:45:31,853 beats him up, "Don't mess with me, I'm gonna give you a hot shot of heroin." 740 00:45:31,936 --> 00:45:33,938 Chief Burke threatened to kill me with a hot shot. 741 00:45:34,021 --> 00:45:38,235 He threatened to kill my mother. Officer Leto threatened to rape my mother. 742 00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:40,445 They chained me to the floor for ten hours. 743 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,947 They beat me, assaulted me. 744 00:45:43,532 --> 00:45:45,867 I couldn't even lift my-- I could barely lift my neck. 745 00:45:47,286 --> 00:45:51,123 [Garcia-Roberts] From the very beginning, the police department closes ranks. 746 00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:58,005 The feds knew about this beating within days and started investigating. 747 00:45:59,213 --> 00:46:03,092 But when feds show up to try to interview the key witnesses, 748 00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:04,969 they run into this blue wall of silence 749 00:46:05,052 --> 00:46:08,139 where they can't get police to tell the truth about what occurred. 750 00:46:11,309 --> 00:46:13,561 [Trotta] It ultimately took three years for the FBI 751 00:46:13,644 --> 00:46:15,773 and the U.S. Attorney's Office to break him. 752 00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:17,775 They were waiting for a crack in the armor, 753 00:46:17,858 --> 00:46:19,485 and it finally occurred. 754 00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:22,570 One of the people in the room gave up the fact that, yes, 755 00:46:22,653 --> 00:46:25,032 the chief of police went in there and beat the guy up. 756 00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:28,744 [dramatic music playing] 757 00:46:30,954 --> 00:46:33,956 Dramatic fall from grace for the former Chief of Department 758 00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:35,458 for the Suffolk County Police. 759 00:46:36,251 --> 00:46:40,505 [reporter] It is a strange sight indeed, James Burke in handcuffs. 760 00:46:40,588 --> 00:46:45,052 The FBI arrested the 51-year-old veteran cop this morning. 761 00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:48,304 The investigation into the defendant Burke's assault of Loeb 762 00:46:48,387 --> 00:46:50,306 began more than two and a half years ago. 763 00:46:51,141 --> 00:46:54,436 Burke repeatedly met with members of the Suffolk County Police Department 764 00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,146 to agree on ways to get their stories straight. 765 00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:01,818 [Hart] The first time I met Jim Burke was when he was arrested 766 00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:04,570 and he was brought back to the Long Island office of the FBI. 767 00:47:05,112 --> 00:47:08,115 So I went in to where he was being photographed and fingerprinted 768 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:11,119 and introduced myself, as the head of the office, and he told me 769 00:47:11,202 --> 00:47:13,246 how much he'd meant to come out and meet me. 770 00:47:13,329 --> 00:47:15,706 I said, "You're here now, so I'm glad we're meeting." 771 00:47:16,708 --> 00:47:18,626 He was charged with civil rights violations 772 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:20,128 and obstruction of justice. 773 00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:24,298 Burke was ultimately held accountable. 774 00:47:24,882 --> 00:47:29,221 He was convicted and sentenced to almost four years in a federal prison. 775 00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:33,934 And it starts to become clear that there was corruption here. 776 00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:36,103 It was deep-seated. 777 00:47:38,521 --> 00:47:39,940 [interviewer] In retrospect, 778 00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:43,568 does the extent to which Spota went to defend Burke… 779 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:44,527 [chuckles] 780 00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:47,822 …seem like it was something that should have raised alarm bells for you? 781 00:47:48,322 --> 00:47:49,199 [inhales sharply] 782 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:50,701 [sighs] 783 00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:55,371 [inhales] 784 00:47:55,454 --> 00:47:56,289 [sighs] 785 00:47:57,583 --> 00:48:03,547 I trusted some people that didn't really merit that trust 786 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:08,510 and, uh, you know, I regret that I didn't see that earlier. 787 00:48:09,844 --> 00:48:11,972 It was inconceivable to me 788 00:48:12,597 --> 00:48:17,311 that you could rise to that level of authority 789 00:48:18,686 --> 00:48:22,106 if you weren't a person of integrity. 790 00:48:22,858 --> 00:48:24,150 [inaudible] 791 00:48:24,233 --> 00:48:26,027 [Hart] Ultimately, it was in the investigation 792 00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:29,197 that was launched by the FBI into the incident with Chris Loeb. 793 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:31,992 That then started to unravel a conspiracy 794 00:48:32,074 --> 00:48:34,369 that Burke had with Tom Spota to cover it up. 795 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:39,291 And that conspiracy was what brought down the district attorney, Tom Spota, as well. 796 00:48:39,916 --> 00:48:42,001 [reporter] It's a stunner in Suffolk County. 797 00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:46,882 Thomas Spota wielded influence and power for 16 years as district attorney 798 00:48:46,965 --> 00:48:49,009 is himself in federal court. 799 00:48:49,092 --> 00:48:50,760 [Garcia-Roberts] After a federal trial, 800 00:48:50,844 --> 00:48:53,639 Spota is convicted of obstruction of justice. 801 00:48:55,389 --> 00:48:58,184 He spent close to three years in federal prison. 802 00:48:59,518 --> 00:49:03,731 So it was this stunning end to this rise of the two men together 803 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:08,987 where they also ended up causing each other's downfall. 804 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,829 [Kolker] There was a changing of the guard in Suffolk County. 805 00:49:17,913 --> 00:49:21,708 Geraldine Hart, who had been running the FBI's Long Island office 806 00:49:21,791 --> 00:49:26,755 for a very long time, steps in as the new commissioner. 807 00:49:26,838 --> 00:49:30,675 [reporter] Geraldine Hart coming on as the Suffolk Police Commissioner, 808 00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:32,969 the first woman to hold the position. 809 00:49:33,594 --> 00:49:37,431 That milestone began with Hart jump-starting the investigation 810 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:40,601 into the unsolved Gilgo Beach serial killings. 811 00:49:41,728 --> 00:49:44,856 [Hart] When I came over to Suffolk as the commissioner, it was so different. 812 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:46,565 You know, the deck had been cleared. 813 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:49,277 I really wanted to set the tone that that was in the past 814 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,320 and that we were now, you know, in a new day. 815 00:49:51,905 --> 00:49:54,365 These families matter, and these girls matter, 816 00:49:54,449 --> 00:49:56,659 and we're gonna do everything we can to solve it. 817 00:49:57,452 --> 00:49:58,577 Within a couple days, 818 00:49:58,661 --> 00:50:01,081 we had the leadership of the Suffolk County Police Department 819 00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:02,581 out to the FBI office. 820 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:05,293 We all kind of sat together and said, "What does this look like?" 821 00:50:06,085 --> 00:50:09,672 "Can we review what was done? Can we add to what was done previously?" 822 00:50:09,755 --> 00:50:12,175 "And if anything was not done, can we do it now?" 823 00:50:13,092 --> 00:50:15,137 And then just it was all systems go. 824 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,639 [tense music playing] 825 00:50:17,722 --> 00:50:21,101 We were the first department in the state to utilize genetic genealogy. 826 00:50:21,184 --> 00:50:23,019 This is new science. Let's use it. 827 00:50:23,103 --> 00:50:25,563 [reporter] DNA from one of the unidentified victims 828 00:50:25,646 --> 00:50:29,443 was run through publicly available ancestry sites. 829 00:50:29,525 --> 00:50:32,278 Genetic matches were found. 830 00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:36,574 [Hart] Today, we are announcing that Jane Doe Number 6 831 00:50:36,657 --> 00:50:40,119 has been positively identified as Valerie Mack. 832 00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:45,958 That was an important piece for the family who didn't know what happened 833 00:50:46,043 --> 00:50:49,963 to their loved one, and it also began to give us new leads in the investigation. 834 00:50:50,672 --> 00:50:53,175 The thought was reintroduce the case to the public, 835 00:50:54,092 --> 00:50:57,012 provide information moving forward, and also receive information. 836 00:50:57,094 --> 00:50:59,972 Today, we are sharing information with the public 837 00:51:00,056 --> 00:51:03,809 that we hope will shed new light on this investigation. 838 00:51:04,643 --> 00:51:11,650 A black leather belt embossed with the letters HM or WH 839 00:51:11,735 --> 00:51:15,572 was recovered during the initial stages of this investigation. 840 00:51:16,655 --> 00:51:20,409 We believe that the belt was handled by the suspect 841 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:23,496 and did not belong to any of the victims. 842 00:51:25,081 --> 00:51:27,458 [Cann] It was exciting because then it was, 843 00:51:27,541 --> 00:51:29,753 like, information that was finally coming in. 844 00:51:30,628 --> 00:51:34,632 I started getting hope again but for a different reason. 845 00:51:35,467 --> 00:51:36,802 For justice for her. 846 00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:38,512 [melancholy music playing] 847 00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:43,224 [Garcia-Roberts] We know the case was botched over the years. 848 00:51:44,518 --> 00:51:49,396 The big question is, how dire were those missteps in reality? 849 00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:51,358 -[thunder rumbles] -[eerie music playing] 850 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:55,570 [Schaller] I've had that fucking guy's face in my head for years. 851 00:51:56,153 --> 00:51:58,197 Something stuck about him. 852 00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:04,788 In 2011, police had a description of the perp, 853 00:52:04,871 --> 00:52:08,291 which a witness described him as ogre-like. 854 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:11,335 [Schaller] Gave him the exact description. 855 00:52:11,418 --> 00:52:16,882 Guy's like 6'8", 350, beady-ass eyes, hair color, everything. 856 00:52:17,884 --> 00:52:22,597 Not only that, police had a description of the truck. 857 00:52:22,681 --> 00:52:25,516 I told them he got into a green Avalanche. 858 00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:28,894 [Garcia-Roberts] It's a unique truck, a dark-colored Chevy Avalanche. 859 00:52:28,978 --> 00:52:30,521 [Schaller] How many fucking 6'8" giants 860 00:52:30,605 --> 00:52:33,733 driving around in Massapequa driving a Chevy Avalanche? 861 00:52:34,775 --> 00:52:37,653 They had their answers for fucking years. 862 00:52:37,737 --> 00:52:39,739 [suspenseful music playing] 863 00:52:48,373 --> 00:52:50,375 [melancholy music playing] 75606

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