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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,680 RADIO TRAFFIC 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,680 TV: 'Tonight's space shuttle Challenger on launch pad 39B, 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,520 'as the mammoth spacecraft...' 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,840 'The countdown continues for tomorrow's launch 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,360 'of the Space Shuttle Challenger, with its crew of seven 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,040 'including New Hampshire schoolteacher Christa McAuliffe. 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 'But a cloudy and...' 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,120 'As NASA ground crews prepare the ship....' 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,400 '..officials believe it will be a go...' 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,840 RADIO TRAFFIC 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,880 'The Challenger mission L51 has been...' 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,440 'The 51L mission, ready to go.' 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,800 'At seven o'clock, the Challenger crew met 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,000 'for their traditional pre-flight breakfast...' 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,160 RADIO TRAFFIC 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Ladies and gentlemen of the faculty, students, quiet, please. 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Please welcome our esteemed guest lecturer, 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,360 winner of the Einstein Award, 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,200 one of the ten most significant physicists of all time, 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,040 winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics, Dr Richard Feynman. 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,920 I bribed him to say all that nice stuff, 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,520 clearly I just escaped from jail. 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,200 LAUGHTER 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Energy, from potential to kinetic, 26 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,480 gives you... 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,120 You see that? 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 No, don't write it down. 29 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Not till you know what it means. 30 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,720 This will not hurt you. 31 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,120 It might hurt me. 32 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 APPLAUSE 33 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,920 Why didn't I have you write down the equation? 34 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,840 You'd write it out. 35 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,120 La-di-la-di-la, you'd feel pretty smart, right? 36 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,360 But now you understand it. 37 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Mom! Hurry Up! I'm coming. 38 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,200 TV: ..'about three minutes, and they think they can do it.' 39 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 'They are counting, the ice is cleared away, 40 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,320 'and Challenger should be going away very soon. 41 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,120 'Let's go down to the Kennedy Space Center 42 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,200 'and take a look at Challenger sitting on the pad 43 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,320 'as they continue the countdown.' 44 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 'Challenger's launch will be the 25th space shuttle mission. 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,320 'It's estimated over 30,000 people have been involved...' 46 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Dale, you want some coffee? Not now, Larry. 47 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,080 '..at a total cost of nearly 40 million...' 48 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,880 PHONE RINGS 49 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,800 'There goes Christa McAuliffe, first teacher in space. 50 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,320 'During the mission, McAuliffe will be conducting scientific experiments 51 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,000 'which will be beamed live to children 52 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,680 'in schoolrooms across America. 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,160 'The New Hampshire teacher has described Challenger 54 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,840 'as the ultimate field trip.' 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,200 What is science? 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Science is a way to teach how some thing gets to be known. 57 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,720 In as much as anything can be known. 58 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Because nothing is known absolutely. 59 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,440 It's how to handle doubt 60 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,720 and uncertainty. 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,640 RADIO TRAFFIC 62 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,120 'Ten, nine, eight, seven, six... 63 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,680 'we have main engine start. 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,680 'Four, three, two, one... 65 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,680 'Lift-off of the 25th space shuttle mission, 66 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,000 'and it has cleared the tower.' 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Yay! 68 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,440 'Roger roll, Challenger. 69 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,200 'Challenger, go with throttle.' 70 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Science teaches us what the rules of evidence are. 71 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,640 We mess with that at our peril. 72 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,240 'One minute, 15 seconds. 73 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,200 'We'll report more as we have information available. 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 'Checking with the recovery forces. 75 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,040 'Obviously a major malfunction. 76 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,960 'We have no downlink.' 77 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,800 RADIO: 'The space agency NASA has not yet confirmed the deaths 78 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 'of the schoolteacher and six other astronauts 79 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,800 'who were on board the shuttle Challenger when it exploded 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,520 'on take-off this morning in Florida. 81 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,960 'But there seems little doubt that there were any survivors. 82 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,480 'NASA is conducting a news conference at this moment. 83 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,640 'Challenger exploded into a fireball 84 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,360 'and pieces came down in the Atlantic Ocean...' 85 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,920 TV: 'Never in 25 launches of the space shuttle had a life been lost. 86 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,560 'Today, that record went down in flames. 87 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,640 'Tonight the search for survivors turned up none. 88 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,280 'The search for answers is just starting. 89 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:03,120 'Bruce Hall begins our coverage 90 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 'of a spaceship that became a fireball and a national tragedy. 91 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,120 'Ready for launch. 92 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,960 'And lift-off. 93 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,600 'And listen to the cheers of the young students 94 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,800 'of the first ever US teacher-astronaut.' 95 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,680 'Moments later, a massive explosion. 96 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,160 'The cheering stops.' 97 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 I'm sorry, I can't watch this stuff. 98 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 'Seven Americans with the highest hopes. 99 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,400 'A billion dollars worth of the highest technology. 100 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,120 'Gone in seconds. 101 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960 'The worst disaster in the US Space Program ever.' 102 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,440 PHONE RINGS 103 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,160 JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS 104 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Hello. Er, hold on, hold on. No... 105 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Wait! 106 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,640 DOG BARKS 107 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Feynman menagerie. 108 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,840 Sorry, who is it? Hold on, hold on. 109 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,440 TURNS MUSIC DOWN 110 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Who's this? 111 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Bill. Bill who? 112 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Bill Graham? 113 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,840 I've got 15,000 former students. 114 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Listen, pal, how did you get a hold of my home number? 115 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,200 You're head of what? 116 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,760 NASA? 117 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,280 HE SIGHS 118 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,800 You got your results back yet? 119 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Nope. 120 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,000 HE GROANS 121 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,280 What's bugging you? 122 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Had a phone call this morning. 123 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,880 They want me to go to Washington 124 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,280 and sit on a presidential inquiry thing. 125 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,120 What? 126 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Find out why the shuttle exploded. 127 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Did you say yes? 128 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,440 I'm not even that into the space programme. 129 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,760 I know people died and I'm very sorry about that, but... 130 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Gwen... 131 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,600 I do my work, my teaching, you guys. 132 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:34,080 They just want to say that they bagged the famous physicist guy. 133 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,680 They're a bunch of bureaucrats and generals 134 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:39,320 with pokers up their asses, you know? 135 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,480 What? 136 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 You just said it. 137 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,320 They wouldn't know where to look. You would. 138 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,600 You can't pass up a puzzle, not as important as this. 139 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,480 I'm sorry, love, you're right. 140 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,160 I wasn't thinking. 141 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Write and explain that you're not fit enough. 142 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,200 I'm fit. I'm fit. 143 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Who are you kidding? I'm fit as a fiddle. 144 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,680 What do you Yorkshire folks say? "I'm fit as a flea." 145 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:16,080 You want the proof? 146 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Not especially. 147 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Ohh...you smell so good. 148 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,040 OK, but... 149 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Then you'd have no excuse. 150 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,320 SHE SIGHS 151 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Damn you, woman. 152 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,880 SHE CHUCKLES 153 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 I'll have to wear a tie. 154 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,920 SHE LAUGHS 155 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,840 'The Captain has turned on the no smoking signs. 156 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,120 'At this time, please extinguish all smoking materials.' 157 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,080 Taxi! 158 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,640 It's cold. 159 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,200 NASA headquarters. 160 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,480 NASA, you got it. 161 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Cold! 162 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,000 RADIO: 'With America still in shock 163 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,960 'after the world's worst space disaster, 164 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,960 'the address given by President Reagan 165 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,720 'in the hours following the accident 166 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,840 'now seems to have captured the mood of a nation.' 167 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,840 REAGAN: 'We mourn seven heroes. 168 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,800 'We mourn their loss as a nation together...' 169 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,360 So, sir, are you something to do with the enquiry there? 170 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Yeah, I'm on the presidential commission. 171 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Ah. 172 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,120 Alongside some super-important people. 173 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,240 '..slipped the surly bonds of Earth to touch the face of God.' 174 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 'Focus now turns to the cause of the tragedy, 175 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,600 'as the Presidential Commission...' 176 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 They gotta get back up there. 177 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Something went really wrong. 178 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,400 CAR HORNS HONK 179 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Keep that. Thank you. 180 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,320 Sir... 181 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Can I trouble you for an autograph? 182 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Sure. 183 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,080 Who would I make it out to? 184 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Oh... 185 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Not you, sir. I meant Mr Neil Armstrong. 186 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:25,680 First man on the moon. 187 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,680 You could mail it. 188 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:29,880 That's my driver number, at that address. 189 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,800 OK. 190 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,760 I promise. Thank you. 191 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,120 Thank you. 192 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,520 So what do you expect to find? 193 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,720 Mr Feynman, what do you expect to find? 194 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,960 Pardon me. 195 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Mr Armstrong, I think we met... Excuse me. 196 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,560 I'm Bill Rogers. I'm chairman of the Commission. 197 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,480 We're very fortunate to have you with us. 198 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,200 Hey, I've got somebody who wants to meet you. 199 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Dr Sally Ride. 200 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Oh... Our first woman in space. Well... 201 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Nice to meet you. 202 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,960 You too. Mmm. 203 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,280 Good journey? 204 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,560 I took the red-eye from LA. 205 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,880 Don't ever do it. 206 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,800 Dr Alton Keel, our executive director. 207 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Nobel laureate, Richard Feynman. 208 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Your name I recognise too. Fellow physicist. 209 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,880 Formerly. I've been in Washington several years. Oh. 210 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,400 HE CHUCKLES 211 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,720 How's your integrity? 212 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,920 That's just insulting. No! 213 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Don't take me seriously. 214 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Commissioners. 215 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,240 I appreciate you all coming together at short notice. 216 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,320 We have a huge, vital task ahead of us, 217 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,160 upon which might depend the future 218 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,360 of manned space flight in this country. 219 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Now, I intend for this investigation 220 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,480 to follow an orderly and proper procedure. 221 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,480 We are not going to conduct it in a manner that is in any way 222 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,680 unfairly critical of NASA. 223 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,080 Because we believe, and certainly I believe, 224 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,520 that NASA has done an excellent job. 225 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,440 And I believe that the American people think so too. 226 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Anyone? 227 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,000 We have to accept the fact that this shuttle 228 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,560 is the most complex machine that's ever been built. 229 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,320 I understand it has more than two and a half million parts. 230 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,960 It may be, after due consideration, 231 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 it's just not possible to identify the cause. 232 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,680 Now... 233 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,880 In terms of scheduling... That's nothing. 234 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,600 I'm sorry, Dr Feynman? 235 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,600 Two and a half million - small potatoes. 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,400 No, really look - I don't know much about space rockets, 237 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,560 but I know a little something about probability. 238 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,880 Something I developed called, um... path integral formulation. 239 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,840 It's quantum mechanics, yuck, yuck. But, um... 240 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Basically, what it means is that you can figure out the probability 241 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,840 of something occurring, 242 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,480 not just when you get two and a half million events, 243 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,000 but an infinity of possibilities. 244 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,200 However large the number of causal paths 245 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,320 for whatever happened to Challenger, 246 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,280 an explanation can be found. 247 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,720 What are we doing here if we don't think it's possible? 248 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Right? 249 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,240 Er...Chairman Rogers, I headed an investigation 250 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,160 into the failure of a Titan rocket, 251 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,040 and I suggest I outline the procedure we used there. 252 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200 I appreciate the offer, General Kutyna, 253 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,800 but I think in this case there's far less collectable evidence. 254 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,600 I don't like to contradict you, sir, but in the case of the shuttle, 255 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,080 as there are human beings aboard, 256 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,040 it generates far more database material. 257 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Mr Rogers, what the general said is the case. 258 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,320 There are external cameras, there are black box recordings, 259 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,200 there are telemetry sensors, there's a great deal of information. 260 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Thank you, General Kutyna. 261 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,080 And Mr Armstrong. 262 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,600 I'm certain we can get back to this. 263 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Please, anyone. 264 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Chairman. Yes. 265 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 I don't know about anyone else, but, um... 266 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Coming in, I got some major press attention. 267 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,400 I'd like to know what we're to say. 268 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,920 For the sake of the astronaut families, 269 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,120 what are we saying at this point? 270 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,680 This is very important. 271 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Any and all enquiries from the press 272 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,240 are to be directed to Chairman Rogers's office. 273 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 So, the plan is... 274 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 lady and gentlemen... 275 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,560 we will reconvene in five days' time. 276 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,160 But for the present, enjoy your stay in Washington. 277 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,200 What? 278 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,360 We're not going to..? That's it. 279 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Keel. We don't start right away? 280 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,400 (Great.) 281 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Dr Feynman. 282 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Bill Graham, head of NASA. 283 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Thank you. 284 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,080 You're the guy that got me into this. 285 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Well, I took your physics lectures way back, never forgotten. 286 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 I think you're going to bring something unique to the Commission. 287 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,600 I abandoned my teaching and a lot of important consulting to come here, 288 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,680 didn't imagine I was going to be told to sit on my tush for a week. 289 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,720 So, here's what I'm going to need. 290 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,120 I'm going to need a crash course in shuttle design. 291 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,760 I need to know everything on how this thing was put together, 292 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 so if you can start supplying me with the technical manuals and so forth, 293 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,240 and most of all, you gotta get me straight on the factory floor. 294 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,720 Pretty new to NASA myself - 295 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,800 I actually only took over two months ago. 296 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,360 That's bad timing. 297 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,200 We're based here in Washington, 298 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,760 but the shuttle engines and systems 299 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,880 are all out of the Marshall Space Flight Center. 300 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,440 It pretty much takes care of itself. 301 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,000 You're the head of the whole shmeer, 302 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,920 I mean, you can get me in this Marshall place, 303 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,680 otherwise I'm a busy fella. 304 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,400 I'll do my best. I'll get on it right away. 305 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Right, thanks. 306 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,400 I like that you didn't let up there on the mighty chairman. 307 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,200 You take it. I don't care for limousines. 308 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Well, neither do I - 309 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 I'm just a two-star general, don't get assigned a limousine. 310 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,680 Take the subway. 311 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Hmm. 312 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,280 Pleasure. You too. 313 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Taxi! 314 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Oh, and there was a phone call for you, sir. 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,960 Please call your doctor. 316 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,240 Dr...Weiss? 317 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,960 The elevator's just to your right, sir. 318 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,160 '..to begin what may be a lengthy process. 319 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,080 'Millions of Americans who watched our heroes perish 320 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,560 'only 73 seconds after take-off on that cold January morning 321 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,120 'are waiting for answers.' 322 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,400 'Nancy and I are pained to the core about the tragedy 323 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,280 of the shuttle Challenger...' PHONE RINGS 324 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,440 Hello. 325 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,680 Graham. 326 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,760 You got me in, great. 327 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,320 I'll take a plane down in the morning. 328 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Thanks. 329 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Alpha plus. 330 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,360 'I've always had great faith in and respect for our space programme. 331 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,440 'We don't hide our space programme. 332 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,640 'We don't keep secrets and cover things up. 333 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,400 'We do it all upfront and in public. 334 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,080 'That's the way freedom is and we wouldn't change it for a minute.' 335 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,600 Wow, it's immense. 336 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,160 This is an identical craft? 337 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,840 No, it's a training simulator. 338 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,520 but for your purposes, the flight deck systems, the payload bay, etc, 339 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,040 virtually identical. 340 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,640 Want to see the flight deck? 341 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,720 You have four human beings jammed in this space? 342 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Can I sit here? 343 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Yeah. 344 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,480 Wow. 345 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,120 OK. So... 346 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,000 they got S-Band communication links... 347 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,640 environmental control systems... 348 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520 cabin pressure gauges... 349 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,880 What is that? Emergency oxygen. 350 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Don't touch things. 351 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,360 Hmm. 352 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Come on. 353 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Dick Feynman. I'm on the Commission. 354 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,160 I got nothing to hide. 355 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,720 If I was to ask you engineers, 356 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,440 never mind what the managers say, but you guys... 357 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Given all your experience, 358 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,840 what you thought the probability was of an accident on any single launch, 359 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,880 what would you say? 360 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,320 I mean, if you don't want to say out loud, 361 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,480 perhaps you could write it down on a piece of paper. 362 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,440 So you're looking at the solid rocket boosters. 363 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,080 OK, so... 364 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,240 They're not made here. 365 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,240 No - they're made by contractors, Morton Thiokol in Utah. 366 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,920 Railroaded into Kennedy in sections. 367 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 That's a pretty standard tang and clevis joint. 368 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520 Look, there's no ways it was the solid rocket boosters. 369 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,760 How so certain? Because they don't fly with holes in them. 370 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,120 If it was the SRB, it would have exploded on the launch pad. 371 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:52,400 These kept on flying, you see it in the footage. 372 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,440 You watched the footage. Tell me what you saw. 373 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,040 What went through your mind? 374 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,360 What did you think it was? 375 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,880 I thought it was the main engines. 376 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000 OK. Why? Why the main engines? 377 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Because of the complexity. 378 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,000 They're working at the outer edge of any experience base. 379 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,800 In the blade technology? 380 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,800 No, no, no, it's more than the blades, it's... 381 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Hey... 382 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 There is no ways that I'm ratting out my co-workers here. 383 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Look, pal... 384 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,800 If we're not allowed to find out what went wrong, 385 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,880 there will be no more co-workers. 386 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,040 All these jobs will be gone, kaput. 387 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,400 Won't be another shuttle launch. 388 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,800 TV: 'Of the events on the morning of the 28th of January, 389 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,000 'the Presidential Commission investigating the accident, 390 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,400 'headed by former Secretary of State William Rogers, 391 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,240 'has met mostly behind closed doors. 392 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,480 'So far, it's given no hints about what it believes 393 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,920 'may have been the cause. 394 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280 'Meanwhile, off the coast of Florida, 395 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,960 'the hunt for Challenger wreckage continues. 396 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,600 'The combined NASA, naval and coastguard operation 397 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,960 'involving 14 ships, four submarines and 11 aircraft 398 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,120 'is combing hundreds of square miles of ocean. 399 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:07,120 'Although NASA today released pictures showing recovered debris, 400 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,400 'they've been unable to confirm that they've found the crew compartment. 401 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240 'In the absence of detailed information 402 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,040 'about what happened to Challenger, 403 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 'speculation about the cause of the accident continues to grow. 404 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,120 'Recent theories include everything from a computer programming error 405 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,840 'to unusually strong winds.' 406 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,560 Chairman Rogers... 407 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,320 The boats just pulled in the crew compartment. 408 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,720 Can you tell me, was the oxygen activated? 409 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Yes, Dr Ride. 410 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,600 It was. 411 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,960 We... 412 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,840 maybe won't make that public straight away. 413 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,400 Excuse me. 414 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,120 Dr Feynman. 415 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,240 It's very important that this team stays together all the time. 416 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,400 Why? 417 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960 It's been reported to me that you spent some time at Marshall. 418 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Alone. 419 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,360 That's not very helpful. 420 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,880 Oh, Mr Rogers, I don't find it helpful to stand around. 421 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,360 The other commissioners are just being respectful. 422 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,760 And you're saying I'm not? 423 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,680 You understand the implications of the oxygen being activated? 424 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,160 I do. 425 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560 The astronauts had to do that themselves. 426 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,640 Which means that they were alive 427 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,440 for at least some of those two minutes and 36 seconds 428 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,480 before they slammed into the ocean. 429 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,640 Mr Rogers, I'm an atheist. 430 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,120 I personally doubt that they're touching the face of God, 431 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,400 so I prefer to show my respect 432 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,400 by finding the cause of their appalling deaths 433 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080 and not stand around looking sad. 434 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,240 You know, I didn't even want to be on this commission 435 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,320 but now that I'm on it, 436 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,680 I've got every intention of finding out what went wrong. 437 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,040 You know, I don't know that NASA did an excellent job. 438 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 The group will be leaving in 30 minutes. 439 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Except for General Kutyna, who's made his own arrangements. 440 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800 I also may have my own arrangements. 441 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,200 I can't force you to go. 442 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Nope. 443 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,640 Are you going to work all night? 444 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,440 Er...if necessary. I don't know. 445 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,640 How do you plan to get back to Washington? 446 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,920 Er...I got myself in kind of a pickle. 447 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600 I want to go back to Marshall. 448 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Guess I'll hire a car, but it's hundreds of miles. 449 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,800 I can give you a lift. I'll drop you in Alabama. 450 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Oh. HE CHUCKLES 451 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Thank you. 452 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,160 Here. 0600? 453 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,200 OK. 454 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,200 HE CHUCKLES 455 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,720 I may not get a limo, 456 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,160 but occasionally I get the use of a government jet. 457 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,600 No..! You imagined I was going to drive you 400 miles? 458 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760 This is tremendous. 459 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,040 New for you? 460 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,200 You serious? No! 461 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,040 Whoa-ho-ho-ho! 462 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Oh! 463 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,080 It's OK. 464 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,360 You know, what you have to realise 465 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,640 is that you are uniquely independent. 466 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,640 Yeah, how's that? 467 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Well... 468 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,600 everyone on the commission has strong associations. 469 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,400 To whom? Well, to NASA - Armstrong, Ride... 470 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,440 The government - Keel - Rogers was Secretary of State. 471 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,520 And Bill Graham's even a personal friend of President Reagan's. 472 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480 And you? 473 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Me, the Air Force. 474 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,600 BLEEPING 475 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280 How does the Air Force... Air Force three niner two six five. 476 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480 INDISTINCT REPLY ON RADIO Low on four three zero. 477 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,720 Heading three two zero. 478 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,640 Two six five. 479 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000 How does the Air Force... You're the only independent. 480 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 I'm independent. 481 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,560 I'm invincible. 482 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Yeah... 483 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,680 but check six. 484 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,480 What check six? That's, um... 485 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,640 That's a fighter pilot's expression. 486 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Six o'clock. 487 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440 The blind spot. Directly behind you. 488 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Uh-huh. 489 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,000 Watch my ass. 490 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160 THEY LAUGH 491 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,920 OK, watch your ass here. 492 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,680 What? It's a little steep. 493 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,440 ENGINE ROARS 494 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200 That's what we call the diamond. 495 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Wow, now that is very beautiful. 496 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560 RATTLING 497 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800 What the hell? 498 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160 You happy with that, with that vibration? 499 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Don't worry, it steadies again after 65%. 500 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,960 But to get to 65%, you gotta go through that? 501 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Sometimes, yeah. 502 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Can I see components, the blades? 503 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Oh, what is that? 504 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,600 It's a crack...in this blade. 505 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,720 There's an obvious crack. 506 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Yeah. 507 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,680 The blades often get those after a flight, 508 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320 but that's not a flight safety problem. 509 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Well, what is it, then? We were told to log it as a maintenance problem. 510 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400 Only if it develops into a full fracture, THAT would be a failure. 511 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,240 So a failure only happens if it actually shears off? 512 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Uh-huh. 513 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Bull! The failure is the crack. 514 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Well, you could argue that... 515 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000 The failure is the crack - I mean, because it's not in the design. 516 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,600 You know and I know it's not supposed to crack. 517 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Who has the rest of the test data? 518 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Is that it? 519 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,760 I think we should start this discussion on the step-by-step process, so... 520 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Concentrate the investigation on the main engines. 521 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,400 There are cracked turbine blades. 522 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000 As early as 1,375 seconds, equivalent to full power level. 523 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,960 Also, at 4,000 hertz, there are some nasty vibrations. 524 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,920 So you think the cause lies within the engines? 525 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720 I'd bet my last dime on it. I just got back from Marshall. 526 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160 I just heard an interesting new definition of the word "failure". 527 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Well, it's interesting that you should say that, Doctor. 528 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,320 We've just received the telemetry data from NASA, 529 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,480 and the sensors on the engines 530 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,000 show that they performed absolutely perfectly. 531 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,040 Get out of here! 532 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,240 The engines began to shut down as fuel pressure decreased, 533 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,800 exactly as designed. 534 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,960 That's extremely lucky, because I'm telling you, those engines have profound problems. 535 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,600 Now there is a step-by-step process for us all to follow, 536 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,840 and I respectfully request that from now on, you abide by it. 537 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,640 We're all trying to find the answer. 538 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,320 All right, we begin. 539 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Step by step. 540 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Crap. 541 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Prof... 542 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Don't let the chairman put you off. 543 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,960 Look, you should come by the house some night for a bite, if that appeals. 544 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,520 Yeah? OK, good. Excuse me for a second. 545 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,200 (Listen...) 546 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Graham, why didn't I know that we had the results from the sensors on the engines? 547 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Is NASA drip-feeding us information to suit itself? 548 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,000 I hear you. I'm doing this with one hand tied behind my back. 549 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,040 I hear you, but... RICHARD GROANS 550 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,240 Richard...? RICHARD EXHALES LOUDLY 551 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,520 You OK? 552 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,160 I'll see you tomorrow. 553 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,720 I goofed. I thought I had the answer. I was way off. 554 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:35,040 'So what are you going to do? Are you going to stick with it?' 555 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,720 I don't know. 556 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:38,920 KNOCKING 557 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,760 Listen, there's a knock on the door. I'll call you later. 'All right.' 558 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,840 I'm not sure why they chose to just lay them in this order. 559 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,720 It's difficult to tell, 560 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,320 but this is...this is half that... 561 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,720 Chairman Rogers... 562 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,480 NASA's Failure Analysis team supplied a still from camera E207, 563 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,080 trained on-flight. 564 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,560 It looks like it took a long time for this photograph to appear. 565 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,280 Well, it's here now. What is that? 566 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,280 A flame? 567 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,760 Coming from a position on the side of the solid rocket booster? 568 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,160 Did we know that? Did we know that already? 569 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Did we get stills from other angles? Am I right? 570 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120 They had cameras all around? Yeah. Yes. 571 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,880 Some of the cameras that were looking directly at the area 572 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000 were not working on the day, I'm told. 573 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,560 Well, that's unfortunate. Hm. 574 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,720 May I have that, please? Of course. 575 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,440 DOORBELL RINGS 576 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,560 Am I super-late? I had to pick this up at the lab. 577 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,280 No, no, it's not a problem. Nice car. 578 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,880 You like it? Like it? I LOVE it. 579 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,680 I don't know if that enlargement's going to tell us anything. 580 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Let's see. 581 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,640 Well, it's somewhat clearer, no? No, that just makes the whole thing wider open. 582 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,600 But the flamer is sharper. But that flame, where is it originating? 583 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880 Perhaps what we're seeing is the tip of a larger flame 584 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,320 on the other side where there's no damned camera. 585 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,920 A flame is not a cause. A flame is an effect, it's a symptom. 586 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,880 That doesn't tell us which component split, 587 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,360 sheared off, cracked. It shows us nothing. 588 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,680 It takes us nowhere. 589 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,000 I want to show you something. 590 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800 Multiple successful launches, identical components 591 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,360 and launch locations, so what made that day special? 592 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,720 What were the variables? 593 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:38,840 Take a break, Prof. 594 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,800 Oh! 595 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,480 You lucky fella! 596 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,120 Yeah, I'd be luckier if I could get it running. It's out of commission. 597 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440 The carburettors seize in this weather. 598 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,960 This must be how you stay calm. 599 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,640 Roger The Dodger's got me going crazy with that process of his. 600 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,720 He's a lawyer. He's working it through the way he knows. 601 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:21,640 Yeah, well, maybe some others are kind of working it through the way they know. 602 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560 What? You think somebody's working it for themselves? 603 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Do you? It's Washington, after all. 604 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,440 I can't believe I got myself back in this world - government, politics... 605 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,080 And military guys like me. 606 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,440 You're surprisingly OK. 607 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,760 I guess you had your fill of military personnel through the '40s. 608 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,440 What was your role back then? 609 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,760 When? During the war, with the A-bomb. 610 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,280 I did the theoretical figuring. It was the math. 611 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:12,480 I calculated how much fissionable material would be necessary to make an effective weapon. 612 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,360 It's not a good use of science. 613 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,760 You helped end the war. 614 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,520 RICHARD LAUGHS 615 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,840 Wow, this is beautiful! 616 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,280 Shall we try that Bordeaux? 617 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,560 You go ahead. I no longer drink. If I drink, I can't think. 618 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,400 Oh, sir, we had maintenance look at your heating. 619 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,480 Oh, thank you. Let me know if you still feel chilly. 620 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,160 Could you help me find the number of the National Weather Service? 621 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,160 There you go. 622 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,120 Can I borrow this? Sure. 623 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,600 Yeah, please. Not a forecast. 624 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,840 The temperature at Cape Canaveral. Nearby? 625 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,440 Yeah, Jacksonville, Florida, on the morning of the 28th of January. 626 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,720 Thank you. 627 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480 That's the variable. 628 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,840 I got the variable. 629 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960 It was freezing cold on the morning of the launch. We need to focus 630 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,920 our questioning of the NASA managers on stuff to do with temperature. 631 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,840 Temperature? You're talking about ice? 632 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,920 I don't know. Perhaps added weight of ice, perhaps some metal component 633 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,200 becoming brittle. I don't know which component. 634 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,720 There are only two and a half million possibilities(!) 635 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,000 I'm pretty certain. 636 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,160 As certain as you were about the engines(?) 637 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:30,040 Anything from NASA Failure Analysis? Due this afternoon. 638 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,720 Dr Feynman's becoming a real pain in the ass. > 639 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,840 Well, yeah. 640 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,760 You betcha. 641 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,960 MUTED DISCUSSION 642 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Dr Weiss? Dick. 643 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,000 What are you doing here? 644 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600 Well, if the mountain won't go to Muhammad... 645 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400 You didn't answer my calls. 646 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880 So you tracked me down all the way across the country?! 647 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,800 Nah, nah, nah. I'm at Washington Hospital Center for a conference. 648 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,520 You got an hour to come over there? 649 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,280 Now? Yeah. 650 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,240 Sure. Hold on. 651 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Um...I need to get this delivered to Dr Keel, Presidential Commission - 652 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,080 this address. 653 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,320 It's extremely important that it gets there. 654 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,640 Yes, sir. Thank you. 655 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,560 Good to see you! 656 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440 With a vengeance? Mm-hm. 657 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,920 It's compromising your remaining kidney. 658 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,680 Show me the cells. It's here. 659 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,200 RICHARD SNORTS 660 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,120 OK. That is not so pretty. 661 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,400 I read up on my chances if my sarcoma recurred. 662 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,080 What's the deal if we add in this lymphoma? 663 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,760 It's pretty difficult to calculate the combined... 664 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,400 Don't weasel it, Doc. It's math. 665 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,680 Look, Dick, it's not something we see. 666 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,760 The particular cancers you have, they're... 667 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,520 they're extremely rare. The chance of having them in conjunction... 668 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,840 Well, given what you were doing during the war... 669 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,240 If it even matters. 670 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,800 What do you think? Well, the radiation - what safety precautions were there? 671 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,200 For the test, I... 672 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:33,680 For the test I had a pair of dark glasses, which I never put on. 673 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,640 Jeez, they were... they were crazy days. 674 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960 We never slept. 675 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,880 We were on fire, you know, getting the theory and the math 676 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,520 and the physics. It was a race. We thought we were saving civilisation, 677 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,880 but then we found out the Germans didn't have nuclear capability 678 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,800 and we kept on. The science was...so exciting. 679 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Should have stopped. 680 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,880 We threw a party. While people struggled and died, we threw a party. 681 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120 Hey, you were young. 682 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,160 I wasn't a child. 683 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,640 Yeah. 684 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:25,760 OK. 685 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,040 I guess we'll talk on the phone. Sure. 686 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,200 I think there are probably worse ways to go. 687 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,320 Hey, your hands are cold. 688 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,840 All the time. What is that? 689 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,240 It's possibly lymphoma. 690 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,680 The blood gets gummy. Capillaries lose their flexibility - 691 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,800 they can't expand. 692 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,240 Thanks. 693 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160 Yeah, just talk to me about components that are flexible. 694 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,960 What about a solid rocket booster? 695 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,280 Go ahead. 696 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,240 Thank you, Louis. 697 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,880 Hey, I thought this might be helpful. 698 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920 It's a section model of the SRB joint. 699 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200 I don't want to see a model. I want to see the real thing. 700 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,560 So there are two O-rings 701 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,920 and they squidge in here? 702 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,360 Correct. 703 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,160 Has there ever been a history of problems with them? 704 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,080 Well, there has been some erosion, even some blow-by. 705 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,520 "Blow-by" is what? 706 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,880 Soot getting past the first O-ring. 707 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,920 That would mean that the seal is incomplete? 708 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640 Right, but the manufacturer said that... Morton Thiokol? 709 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,960 Right, Thiokol said that the blow-by never got past the second O-ring, never. 710 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,960 But if something prevented the O-ring from doing its job... 711 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,680 ..if it became rigid because, for example, it was cold...? 712 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,720 I think what we're looking at is the O-rings 713 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,840 within the seal of the SRB. 714 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,880 Lower temperatures would diminish the flexibility. 715 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040 Rubber would get harder, less malleable. 716 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,400 At a certain point it would be too rigid to move into the gap. 717 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,680 Bill... 718 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,320 I need any data NASA have on the timings of spring-back. 719 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:53,320 Resilience of the SRB O-rings in response to temperature. 720 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,120 Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. 721 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,600 Just a reminder that we have many witnesses today 722 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,840 and the press will be in the room. 723 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,960 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to call the commission to order, 724 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,960 so please take your seats, make yourselves comfortable. 725 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,640 Pilot to co-pilot, fix your hair. 726 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,760 Our first witness is Mr Mulloy. 727 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,040 Mr Mulloy, would you come forward and identify yourself, please? 728 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,440 I am Lawrence Mulloy. 729 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,280 Solid rocket booster project manager for NASA 730 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,680 at the Marshall Space Flight Center. 731 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080 All right. Commissioners? Anyone? 732 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,040 Dr Ride? 733 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,440 Mr Mulloy... 734 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,040 in your position at the Marshall Space Flight Center, 735 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,800 you'd be aware of correspondence, memos, etc? 736 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,000 I guess I'm wondering whether memos exist relating 737 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,560 to problems of launching with O-rings at low temperatures. 738 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,280 I understand the morning of the launch was exceptionally cold. 739 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,440 I'm not aware of such documents at Marshall. 740 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,920 It's not correspondence, but on the evening before the launch, 741 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,960 as a matter of routine, those of us from NASA asked our technical people 742 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,840 and our contractors if there were any concerns about low temperature. 743 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,840 Morton Thiokol, who make the solid rocket boosters, presented us 744 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,960 with the fact that the lowest temperature 745 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,880 we had ever flown an O-ring was 53 degrees, 746 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,080 and they wanted to point out that we would be outside of that experience base. 747 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,440 But having heard the discussion, we...we all concluded that there 748 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,120 was no problem with the predicted temperatures, and I have 749 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,040 a document from the management of Morton Thiokol to that effect. 750 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,640 Thank you. Thank you, Mr Mulloy. 751 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,640 You may stand down, for the time being. 752 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,640 There's some guy in the back who wants to say something. 753 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,280 I have something to add. 754 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,400 I beg your pardon? I...I need to add to what he said, please. 755 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,840 All right, sir. Please, step forward, step forward. Identify yourself. 756 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,920 My name is Allan McDonald. I work for Morton Thiokol. 757 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,920 I'm the director of the solid rocket motors project, 758 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,160 so I was at the launch at Kennedy. 759 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,200 I'd like to say something about the meeting 760 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,520 the night before the launch that Mr Mulloy talked about. 761 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,560 Our Thiokol engineers...warned NASA. 762 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,120 They recommended NASA not to launch below 53 degrees 763 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,280 and I agreed with them. 764 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,760 That was the coldest that we knew was safe. 765 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,720 So you said not to launch below 53 degrees? 766 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,920 And what was the actual temperature that morning? 767 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,320 We believed that, at launch, it was going to be much colder. 768 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,800 Below 32 degrees, below freezing. 769 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,840 NASA wasn't happy with that. 770 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,040 Larry Mulloy said, "My God, Thiokol! 771 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,320 "When do we launch? April?!" 772 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,400 Let me understand this - 773 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:24,840 now...are you saying that NASA applied pressure 774 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,120 to change the launch recommendation? 775 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,160 Yes, sir, there was pressure. They said, "Go review the data." 776 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,560 Our people in Utah came back, and recommended to NASA to launch. 777 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,600 I refused to sign. 778 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,440 It is important that NASA be given 779 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,160 the-the opportunity to respond to what's just been alleged. 780 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,680 We must allow... 781 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,480 What the hell is going on here? 782 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,920 Some people say McDonald's doing a CYA. 783 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,560 "CYA". What is that? That stands for "cover your ass". 784 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,720 But if they were warned... The astronauts sure weren't. 785 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,320 I want to know what's happening right here between NASA 786 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,680 and the contractors. We need to talk more to HIM. 787 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,840 Richard. Richard, the data you wanted 788 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,920 on the resistance timings of the O-rings... 789 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,800 OK, thanks. We need to hear more from him. Can you stop Mr McDonald from...? 790 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,520 Damn. 791 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,640 Hi. I need to contact Allan McDonald with NASA's Challenger Failure Analysis team. 792 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,000 I phoned, but I was told he's no longer in Washington. 793 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,680 That information is restricted. 794 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,800 He was on the team but he's been removed? 795 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,000 I can't answer that, sir. 796 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,840 Look, all I want to do is speak to Allan McDonald. What?! 797 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,760 So there's no-one I can talk to in the whole entirety of Morton Thiokol? 798 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,200 There's no-one who can answer my question? 799 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,600 Well, have a nice day(!) 800 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,760 General... 801 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,520 I tried to find McDonald. 802 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,200 No luck, and it's clear why his bosses wanted to please NASA - 803 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,720 very big money at stake. 804 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,400 I'll catch you later. 805 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,440 Hey, Graham. 806 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,960 That spring-back on the O-ring was measured over two hours. 807 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960 It's useless information. 808 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,200 I'm really sorry. That's what I got from Marshall. 809 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,600 Remember what it was to be a scientist before government got to you? 810 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,440 You don't think I gave you...? On purpose...? 811 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,960 No. 812 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,160 Look, I have this grand title. 813 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,760 The NASA old guard, they handed me a list of who should be on the commission. 814 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,080 It was tough to persuade them to take you. 815 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,880 I'm sorry to have gotten you into this. 816 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,240 Well, when you read my notes that I sent, you'll see the crap that goes down at Marshall. 817 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:25,040 Notes? My write-ups. 818 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,840 Those analyses and my examination of the crazy engineering. 819 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,680 Richard. Richard... 820 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:46,560 Sally, did you get a set of notes, my observations? 821 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,440 No, I haven't had anything. 822 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,560 What the hell happened to my notes? 823 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,960 Sally Ride says she didn't get them. Did the others? 824 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,240 OK. I had sent over from my hotel 825 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:20,240 a stack of typed-up notes, wrapped in brown paper, 826 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:23,200 proper analyses of all my observations of the engineering so far, 827 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,480 with a request for you to have copies made for each commissioner. I have no knowledge of this. 828 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,720 No such notes ever arrived on this desk. Perhaps you can have them redone? 829 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,040 I don't have time for this! 830 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,360 You trusted your hotel to deliver something so important? 831 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,000 Yeah. 832 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,760 Dr Feynman, please, as you can see, 833 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,040 NASA is now co-operating fully with all of our requests for information. 834 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,400 Well, then, have copies made of everything 835 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,040 and have it sent over to my hotel. 836 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640 I don't know what's going on, honey. 837 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,880 I landed myself right back in a load of political crap. 838 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,960 People seem to know a lot more than what they're saying. 'Yeah?' 839 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,240 And I finally got a ton of stuff from NASA. 840 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,920 It's full of anomalies. How can that be critical one moment 841 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,560 and safe to operate the next? 842 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,800 Honey, I'm sorry. It's best for me to call you later. 843 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,600 'Are you all right?' I'm fine. 844 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,000 'Honestly?' 845 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,520 No, I feel very well. 846 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,600 'Oh, all right. Speak tomorrow.' 847 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,080 Yeah. 848 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,160 "Ivory soap." 849 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,760 "Ivory soap." 850 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,680 PHONE RINGS 851 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,520 General. 852 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,240 OK, look, this is driving me crazy. I got a room full of NASA bullshit 853 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,400 that just makes me more sure certain what caused the explosion. 854 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,160 The cold, OK? We've got a guy who agrees with us. 855 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,960 He gets shoved off the enquiry. 856 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320 We both know why, but none of it answers. 857 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,960 There's a logic thing here that I'm just not getting. 858 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:03,280 It's about what is at the heart of this thing. 859 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,160 Why did NASA need to launch so bad? 860 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,880 OK, stop, Prof, I can't answer this here. 861 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,920 Erm... I'll pick you up in the morning. 8:15. 862 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,360 And bring full ID. OK? 863 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,200 Goodnight. Goodnight. 864 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,960 Where are we going? 865 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,680 We're going to the Pentagon? 866 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,680 ID, please. 867 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,200 Sir. 868 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,400 Thank you, sergeant. Stand by outside. 869 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,680 Prof, why don't you grab a seat down here? 870 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,960 Right there. 871 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,920 NASA. The agency of the United States Government 872 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,840 responsible for the nation's civilian space programme 873 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,120 and for aeronautics and aerospace research. 874 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,320 Note the word "civilian" in there. 875 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,040 The project cost in US dollars of running the space programme... 876 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,600 The actual cost, I get it. 877 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,160 And knowing this is unsustainable, NASA needs to prove itself, 878 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,640 needs to bolster its purpose, 879 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,080 over and above civilian scientific research and discovery, OK. 880 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,600 So park that for a moment. 881 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,040 The Air Force, meanwhile, wants to upgrade Titan. 882 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,440 An efficient fleet of unmanned rockets to deploy spy satellites into space. 883 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,040 Paranoia. OK. 884 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,360 Whatever you civilians are told, we are still deep in the Cold War. 885 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,320 What's it got to do with NASA? 886 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,920 NASA approaches Congress with a deal. 887 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,760 That seems to make great economic sense, 888 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,040 the government can stop funding Titan and instead divert 889 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,880 the money to NASA, and the Shuttle becomes sole access into space. 890 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,200 NASA knocks out the Air Force and gets a funding boost. 891 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,520 Exactly. Yeah. 892 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,480 And the Shuttle secures its raison d'etre. 893 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,600 Carrying spy satellites? 894 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,000 And NASA convinced Congress 895 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,720 that by 1986 they'd be able to launch twice a month, every month, 896 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,160 and on each of these flights, 897 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,720 payload will be made available to the Department of Defense. 898 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,800 Titan was my project. 899 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,120 But NASA reneges on its obligation 900 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,040 and instead of giving DoD priority, they started taking Senators 901 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,800 up there, in...just PR stunt after PR stunt. 902 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,080 And then, launches start getting cancelled. 903 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,800 The press is beginning to notice... 904 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,280 Congress is getting jumpy. 905 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,280 Yeah, yeah, and the administration is asking questions. 906 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,120 And then last December, the launch is delayed six times, 907 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,040 and remember NASA had promised Congress launch at any time, 908 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,200 under any conditions, and then January 28th... 909 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,880 January 28th launch, it's cold... 910 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,600 It's very cold... 911 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,160 ..and NASA feels under extreme pressure. 912 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,800 And took the risk. 913 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,560 They took the risk. 914 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,640 Why did you tell me all this? 915 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,080 Do you wish you didn't know? 916 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,600 Downstairs, you made me sign the classified information thing. 917 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,800 That's right. 918 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,680 So what's going on, Kutyna? 919 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,480 I mean, you got me trapped, 920 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,200 I can't spill any of this crap. 921 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,920 It would jeopardise national security, the Soviets would know. 922 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,560 You guys can't launch a damned thing in cold weather. 923 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,440 You've been playing me the whole time. From the beginning. 924 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,440 That weird thing in the garage. 925 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,600 With the carburettor, the carburettor and the cold, 926 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,600 I was supposed to take a hint. What is this, some kind of game to you? 927 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,880 No, but it was a nudge. 928 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,920 I heard about the O-ring via an astronaut friend of mine 929 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,880 who was tipped off, in secret, by a NASA engineer. 930 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,400 This astronaut's career has to be protected. 931 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,800 I had to let you get there on your own, Prof. 932 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,360 Prof. Don't Prof me, you don't play me, you don't screw around with me. 933 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,440 Listen to me and you'll understand why I'm telling you this. 934 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,480 I can't do anything with it! That's the point! 935 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,160 Don't ever tell me anything I can't open my mouth 936 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,760 and blab to the whole world! 937 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,920 I got to... I gotta get out of here. 938 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,480 Listen... 939 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200 Richard... 940 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,000 No-one plays me. What is this, check six? 941 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,280 Remember, I told you that only you are independent on this commission. 942 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,080 Do others on the commission... 943 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,320 Do they know stuff? 944 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,840 Everyone knows some, or all, 945 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,440 but they're all bound. This is Washington. 946 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,200 What can be acknowledged, how, by whom.... 947 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,560 You go drag me into this? 948 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,880 No, it's absolutely not, you're coming at it completely differently. 949 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,680 I told you, because I believe 950 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,400 that you, and only you, can use what you have, 951 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,080 you can use the science to cut through the bullshit, 952 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,160 to ensure that the real reason for those deaths gets out. 953 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,720 That it's made completely clear to the public. 954 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,480 NASA's forced to admit it, and has to reform. 955 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,920 I wish. 956 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,200 Why can't people just say things the way they are? 957 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,480 Cos it's politics, it's dirty, but you can, you can drive through that. 958 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,800 You can... What's the, what's the... 959 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,320 Can I have your arm, please? 960 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,640 What's going on? 961 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,520 HE GROANS 962 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,360 No... 963 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,440 Not now. Not yet. 964 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,760 HE GASPS IN PAIN 965 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,120 Let's get a medic. You get a medic right now. Yes, sir. 966 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,600 '80-yard touchdown!' SWITCHES TV CHANNEL 967 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,920 'America is many things to many people. 968 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,240 'To a 17-year-old kid, it's the malt shop on the corner, 969 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,240 'to Grandpa, it's the front porch in the Blue Mountains. 970 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,800 'To the mother and her family, it's church.... 971 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,280 'I'd Like to make it clear that all procedures were proper. 972 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,320 'This is the same process that was used in 24 successful shuttle launches 973 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,320 'as well as previous moon landings.' 974 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,880 'I know that...' Bunch of crap. 975 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,200 '..based on the data up to January 27, 976 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,760 'right through the launch countdown until the lift-off, 977 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,680 'all those actions were proper.' 978 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,240 'Do you believe you exercised good judgement on the evening 979 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,960 'before the launch, regarding the temperature? Absolutely.' 980 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,120 I thought I'd drop these to the cleaners in the morning. 981 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:40,400 "Use Ivory Soap. 99.4% pure." 982 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,840 What? What did you say? 983 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,520 I was just, that old Ivory Soap ad. 984 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:50,080 "Use Ivory Soap, 99.4% pure." 985 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,680 Forget about the cleaners, 986 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,320 I got, I got notes and stuff in the pockets, so... 987 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,960 You sure? Yeah. 988 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,760 'Perhaps it's time to revisit the possibility 989 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,720 'that the Shuttle was a victim of an act of sabotage or terrorism. 990 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,800 'NASA will present at Wednesday's televised...' Jeez! 991 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,080 '..along with members from Morton Thiokol. 992 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,000 'Both parties will detail...' 993 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,600 Only 99.4%, you bastards! 994 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,320 '..by the commission, is unclear 995 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,920 'whether we will ever have answers as to what caused this disaster...' 996 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,080 Gwen! 997 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,480 Gweneth! 998 01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:25,960 What's the matter? 999 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,880 Papa, what's wrong? What? 1000 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,680 I have to go back to Washington. 1001 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,920 Michelle, go back to bed, go on. 1002 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,840 Go on, back to bed, it's all right. 1003 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,880 You need to be here. 1004 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,520 You need to be taken care of. 1005 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,720 We can't come to Washington with you. She has school. 1006 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,760 She has no idea how seriously ill you are. 1007 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,880 I have to. 1008 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,120 People died. 1009 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,240 It will happen again. If I don't, what have the weeks been for? 1010 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,520 I mean, you're the one who persuaded me. 1011 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,480 And you said it yourself - 1012 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,320 let someone else do it. 1013 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,640 You can't, you don't have to carry on now. 1014 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,840 Nobody's got the right to ask that of you. 1015 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,920 I'm the one asking me. 1016 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,800 I'm the one asking. 1017 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,440 OK. 1018 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,280 OK. 1019 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:33,920 I just wanted to have you to myself for as long as possible. 1020 01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:43,280 Honey, will you help me? 1021 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,280 I got to get it all down. 1022 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,400 My notes, everything I found out. 1023 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,720 Got to be one hell of a paper. 1024 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:09,080 The original tang and clevis seal design failed to anticipate 1025 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:14,280 the enormous pressure, caused by the burning propellant, 1026 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,840 would cause the walls to bow outward, 1027 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,000 a phenomenon known as joint rotation. 1028 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,160 OK? Swell. My blood is freshly laundered. 1029 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,720 Dick, you know the affects of the dialysis are only temporary. 1030 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,520 Life is pretty temporary. 1031 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,520 'You're listening to drive time on WTBX with Steve O'Brian. 1032 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160 'Power one-o-three on WTBX. 1033 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,800 'We are definitely addicted to our ten-in-a-row power play for all 1034 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,640 'you folks in Washington, coming up next, Miami Sound Machine...' 1035 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,520 Dr Feynman, can you comment on the progress of the commission? 1036 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,200 What's your take on the sabotage theory? 1037 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,400 I'm not at liberty to speak. 1038 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,280 The commission? 1039 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,440 Through there, sir. 1040 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,360 I'm sorry, sir. You can't go in there. 1041 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,640 Who says so? 1042 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,800 Not without a tie, sir. 1043 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,320 Give me strength. 1044 01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:57,040 I'm sure this is going to look a lot more dainty. 1045 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,600 Good evening, gentlemen. 1046 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,400 My findings, developed, processed, distilled, 1047 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,760 I've saved you the trouble of running them off 1048 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,760 in case the copy machine's broken. 1049 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,920 Hey, Bill. Will you do the honours? Sure. 1050 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,760 It's all here. Hi, Neil. Would you? 1051 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,800 Design flaws in the boosters. 1052 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,360 Management failure. 1053 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,200 A cold day. You OK? 1054 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,560 I had the flu, but now it's flown. 1055 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,240 Why don't you just take this chair? 1056 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,560 Thank you. 1057 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,680 And thank you. 1058 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,520 For your fine, patient, methodical work over the last weeks. 1059 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,920 It's been a difficult period. 1060 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,360 Especially for Dr Feynman. 1061 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,560 Welcome back, Doctor. 1062 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,160 And Doctor, I'm sure that we'll want to include some of your new material 1063 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,240 in our final report. 1064 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,960 Please remember this is a very important hearing. 1065 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,520 We're expecting a lot of press. 1066 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,880 And it will be televised, so please do be prompt. Thank you. 1067 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,040 Prof. 1068 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,720 It's happening again, Rogers is going to bury my work. 1069 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,200 Yeah, and I just got cornered outside by the press. 1070 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,680 Me too. 1071 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,160 I think they're ready to go with "unproven". 1072 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,480 Yep, or a sniper on the grassy knoll. 1073 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,840 I eat a lot of pickled beets. 1074 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,600 General, I haven't a damned clue what we're going to do. 1075 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,800 Despite what you may think, I am pleased to see you back. 1076 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,920 General. Chairman. 1077 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,240 We have a major difficulty. 1078 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,560 The people who best understand the Shuttle are the people giving evidence 1079 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,840 but they have the most to lose by explaining it clearly. 1080 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,000 The public is simply mystified. 1081 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:27,560 Somehow, we need to penetrate the fog. 1082 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,840 Welcome back. 1083 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,800 We know what Marshall's strategy's going to be. 1084 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,000 Smokescreen. Manipulate the science. 1085 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,640 Yeah, they'll make it into a fuzz dazzle. 1086 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,880 That kills me. 1087 01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:05,720 I have to go. 1088 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,320 You OK? I am fine. 1089 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,800 Neil. 1090 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,440 I've been meaning to ask you. 1091 01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:19,760 Yes, Richard. 1092 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,000 This is for a friend. An admirer. 1093 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,160 Right. Of course. 1094 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,400 Thanks so much, Neil. 1095 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,760 Sorry, embarrassing but... 1096 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,120 Anything for you, Richard. Goodnight. 1097 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,440 Take care of yourself. 1098 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,800 You asked me for something, now I'm going to ask you for something. 1099 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,440 No, you picked me up a couple of weeks ago. 1100 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,600 Morning. Morning. 1101 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,200 There's my end of the deal. 1102 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,400 All right. 1103 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,480 Here's what I need from you. 1104 01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:57,120 A hardware store. 1105 01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,160 A hardware store. Why would a super important person want... 1106 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,840 Do you know a hardware store that opens early? I know a place. 1107 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,080 Come on. Get out of bed. 1108 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,960 The astronauts' families will be seeking clarity 1109 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,600 on what precisely caused the deaths of their loved ones. 1110 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,880 NASA witnesses will be answering those questions... 1111 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,320 Graham, make sure you have a section model of a SRB joint. 1112 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,200 Are we late? We're good for time. 1113 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,080 Hey. Morning, General. I guess this is it. 1114 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,720 Good luck. 1115 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,080 Would the witnesses please rise? 1116 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,720 Do you swear that the testimony you will give before this commission 1117 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,680 will be the truth, the whole truth 1118 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,040 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 1119 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,360 I do. I do. 1120 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,760 Mr Mulloy, did you have any apprehension 1121 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,680 that a delay in launch would reflect badly on you or NASA Marshall? 1122 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,520 No, not at all. 1123 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,840 My decision to proceed with the launch as recommended 1124 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,680 by the Thiokol official was based solely on the data 1125 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,280 presented by Thiokol Engineering. Here comes the smoke. 1126 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,400 This is shot right about August 19th, 1127 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,440 and the thing of interest here is what we have seen in the O-rings. 1128 01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:11,480 See, the fact is, before Challenger, we had seen 1129 01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:15,200 no anomalous O-ring erosion for about a year. 1130 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,040 Mr McDonald stated that he thought that what had been said was 1131 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:30,000 very important - that the secondary O-ring was in a position to sealed 1132 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,080 during the time of blow-by. 1133 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,640 So you interpreted Mr McDonald's comment 1134 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,160 as a statement in favour of proceeding to launch? 1135 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,200 Yes, I certainly did because Mr McDonald was seated close by, 1136 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,120 and it was clearly a supportive comment. 1137 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,720 I have a question. 1138 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,560 Can you remind me what NASA calculates the probability 1139 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,360 of shuttle failure to be? 1140 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,160 Failure meaning the loss of the vehicle, 1141 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,600 and the deaths of the entire crew. 1142 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,920 Dr Lovingood. 1143 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,240 Certainly. That would be... 1144 01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:11,160 ..one in ten to the power of five. 1145 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,280 Really? 1146 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,440 Would you explain that? 1147 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:20,000 Yes, that the probability of mission success is 100%. 1148 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,280 Minus Epsilon. 1149 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,280 Epsilon. That's a pretty fancy word. 1150 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,080 Well, let's put all that you've said there into English. 1151 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,600 So that's, that's one failure in every 100,000 flights. 1152 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,360 So you claim that the Shuttle would fly every day for 300 years 1153 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,800 before there would be a single failure. 1154 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,960 That's crazy, I mean, how would you ever even test that? 1155 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,280 NASA arrived at that figure because it was a manned flight. 1156 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,960 Because there are people on board 1157 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,600 but that's not a scientific calculation, that's...that's a wish. 1158 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,920 And interesting. 1159 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,960 But the figure is very different from that of NASA's own engineers. 1160 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,240 Based on their direct experience, 1161 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,600 and observation of many known component problems, 1162 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:10,120 some of NASA's engineers calculate the probability of success 1163 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,440 as only 99.4%. 1164 01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:17,400 In other words, that's roughly one flight in every 200 will fail. 1165 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,120 AUDIENCE MURMURS 1166 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:26,440 Rogers, time out. 1167 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,920 I think this would be an appropriate time to take a break. 1168 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,880 One in 200! 1169 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,520 Wow. That's not what the astronauts were aware of. 1170 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,760 Potential disaster every three and half years. 1171 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,000 It won't convince anybody, there's no proof, 1172 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,920 people don't get probability, it's math. 1173 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,200 But maybe... 1174 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,920 The segment joint test we did, the development 1175 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:44,160 and qualification motor test we did, as a basis for understanding 1176 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,400 what we could expect to happen on the joints. 1177 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,320 Mr Hardy. Certainly. 1178 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,720 As we see, the temperature at which the O-rings would lose their integrity 1179 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,840 would be in the minus 40 to 50 degree range. 1180 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,000 Minus 40 to 50 degrees. 1181 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,560 Fahrenheit? Sir. 1182 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,040 So they'd maintain their integrity 1183 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,480 down to 80 degrees below freezing? That is correct. 1184 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,800 Mr Rogers? Oh, yes. Thank you. 1185 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:27,200 These O-rings are supposed to expand to make a seal, 1186 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,680 is that correct? Yes, sir. 1187 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,000 So, for the people to understand, 1188 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,760 what if we take the O-rings out? 1189 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,640 Not have them. 1190 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,960 Well, then hot gas would expand through the joint. 1191 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:48,400 For the seal to work correctly, the O-ring has to be made of rubber, 1192 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,480 not something like lead, which when you...when you squash it, it stays? 1193 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,240 Yes, sir. 1194 01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,880 Now if the O-ring weren't resilient for a second or two, 1195 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,240 that would be enough for a very dangerous situation 1196 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,880 and that could likely occur at low temperatures. 1197 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,600 No, as Mr Hardy has shown, 1198 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,640 they are effective down to minus 40 to 50 degrees. 1199 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,400 Well, then I just have one comment for the gentlemen, 1200 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,520 that I have always believed that any scientific concept 1201 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,160 can be demonstrated to ordinary people, 1202 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:31,080 people with no specialist knowledge or even much scientific education. 1203 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,680 Co-pilot to pilot, not yet, just wait. What? 1204 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,720 HE WHISPERS: All right. OK, go. 1205 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:44,000 See. I took some of...of this... 1206 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,440 stuff from your seal. 1207 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:54,440 And I put it in nothing more than ice water. 1208 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,800 And I discover... 1209 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,080 ..that if you put it under pressure... 1210 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:13,880 ..for a while, and then undo it... 1211 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,320 ..it doesn't stretch back. 1212 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,360 It stops. At the same dimension. 1213 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,200 In other words, for a second or two, at least, 1214 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,880 and more seconds than that, 1215 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,720 there is no resilience in this particular material 1216 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,240 at the temperature of 32 degrees Fahrenheit, 1217 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,920 the temperature of a cold soda. 1218 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,320 I think that has some significance for our problem. 1219 01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:54,720 AUDIENCE CHATTERS 1220 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,800 REPORTERS JOSTLE AND SHOUT 1221 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,840 Whatever the eventual Commission Report, I will be writing 1222 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,680 up my own independent appendix with all my findings, all the design, 1223 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,320 the engineering and the management problems, 1224 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,080 which I will be handing to the President myself. 1225 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,920 How much did NASA know about the effect of cold, Dr Feynman? 1226 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,520 Look. Ask him. 1227 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,600 Let us make recommendations 1228 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,440 to ensure that NASA officials 1229 01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:38,520 deal in a world of reality. 1230 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,920 Understanding technological weakness and imperfections 1231 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,560 well enough to be actively trying to eliminate them. 1232 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,440 NASA owes it to the citizens from whom it asks support 1233 01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:56,200 to be frank, honest and informative. 1234 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,440 For a successful technology, 1235 01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:02,520 reality must take precedence over public relations, 1236 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,720 for nature cannot be fooled. 1237 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,120 APPLAUSE 1238 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,560 Dr Keel, please. 1239 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,720 And Mr President, this appendix has been prepared by Professor Feynman. 1240 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,400 And by the way, I think I've figured out who was your source. 1241 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,880 You said, "This astronaut, this astronaut." 1242 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,080 If it was a guy, you would have said "he." 1243 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,760 It's OK. I can keep shtoom. 1244 01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,440 If you ever fancy a ride in that old Buick... 1245 01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,400 Yeah. If the weather's warm. 1246 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,760 It would have to happen pretty soon. 1247 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,440 I'm sorry this is taking your time. 1248 01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,240 I'm not sorry. 1249 01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,680 I would have been tremendously sorry if we'd lost 1250 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,920 but as it is, it was... 1251 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,520 Not a good use of science. 1252 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,040 It's a good use of science. 1253 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,080 I'm OK. 1254 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,240 I'm OK with it. 1255 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,000 I guess there is a kind of afterlife. 1256 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,320 The few bits and pieces that we do might get remembered. 1257 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:27,800 General... 1258 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,840 ..fix your hair. 1259 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,960 How would you react to the kind of ethical 1260 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,840 and political dilemmas portrayed in this film? 1261 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,920 Find out with the Open University's online quiz. 1262 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,560 Go to bbc.co.uk/challenger 1263 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,680 and follow links to the OU. 1264 01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,200 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 1265 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,088 Best watched using Open Subtitles MKV Player 97980

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