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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,866 --> 00:00:25,615 In telling the story of Woodstock '99, 2 00:00:25,699 --> 00:00:28,240 it would have been really easy to structure this as a comedy, 3 00:00:28,323 --> 00:00:30,741 poking fun of all things late 1990s. 4 00:00:30,824 --> 00:00:33,657 The way people dressed, the music they listened to. 5 00:00:33,741 --> 00:00:36,282 But, in reality, as that weekend unfolded, 6 00:00:36,365 --> 00:00:38,365 it played out much more like a horror film. 7 00:00:54,782 --> 00:00:56,115 Mike, what's the worst part 8 00:00:56,198 --> 00:00:57,866 of running one of these things? 9 00:00:59,115 --> 00:01:00,866 - The worst part? - What's the worst part 10 00:01:00,949 --> 00:01:02,198 about running one of them? 11 00:01:03,032 --> 00:01:04,073 I don't know. 12 00:01:04,157 --> 00:01:05,449 - Huh? - I don't know. 13 00:01:05,532 --> 00:01:06,991 - Do you dig it all? - Yeah. 14 00:01:10,699 --> 00:01:12,365 I guess the biggest hassle 15 00:01:12,449 --> 00:01:14,240 is dealing with the politics, you know. 16 00:01:14,323 --> 00:01:15,490 There are a lot of politics involved, 17 00:01:15,574 --> 00:01:17,490 - you mean with the cities? - Yeah. 18 00:01:17,574 --> 00:01:18,991 And you got that solved? 19 00:01:19,073 --> 00:01:21,157 - Well, looks that way. - Looks that way. 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,824 - Where are you gonna go from here? 21 00:01:22,907 --> 00:01:24,449 - I mean... - You gonna do another one? 22 00:01:24,532 --> 00:01:26,323 If it works. 23 00:01:36,866 --> 00:01:38,699 Okay, guys. It is hot out there. 24 00:01:38,782 --> 00:01:40,741 The National Weather Service has already issued 25 00:01:40,824 --> 00:01:42,323 a heat advisory for your day tomorrow. 26 00:01:42,407 --> 00:01:44,157 Which's gonna feel like it's a hundred degrees. 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,657 How's the traffic coming in? 28 00:01:45,741 --> 00:01:49,032 It's bad. It's just backed up everywhere. 29 00:01:49,115 --> 00:01:50,949 When the ball drops on the year 2000, 30 00:01:51,032 --> 00:01:53,157 it will be a momentous event for the world 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,866 and for the US economy, 32 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:57,866 which is closing in on on its longest expansion ever. 33 00:01:57,949 --> 00:02:00,490 The decade has been marked by strong growth, 34 00:02:00,574 --> 00:02:03,032 the lowest unemployment in a generation. 35 00:02:03,115 --> 00:02:05,615 And yet remarkably, little inflation. 36 00:02:05,699 --> 00:02:07,198 How you guys doing today, welcome to Woodstock. 37 00:02:07,282 --> 00:02:09,490 Where you wanna go, East Stage, West Stage, Center Stage? 38 00:02:09,574 --> 00:02:10,991 Center stage. You wanna stay straight... 39 00:02:11,073 --> 00:02:12,323 Straight ahead, okay? Straight ahead. 40 00:02:12,407 --> 00:02:14,073 Okay, there you go. Yup, just leave him up here. 41 00:02:14,157 --> 00:02:15,282 So have fun, okay, guys? 42 00:02:15,365 --> 00:02:17,332 You guys okay? You got your toilet paper? - Yes. 43 00:02:17,415 --> 00:02:20,032 A senate panel describes Y2K 44 00:02:20,115 --> 00:02:22,157 as a worldwide crisis. 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,866 - Welcome to 1999 on MTV. - Whoo! 46 00:02:25,949 --> 00:02:28,490 - Limp Bizkit! - Woodstock '99. 47 00:02:28,574 --> 00:02:31,991 Stay home for the trip of your life on pay per view. 48 00:02:32,073 --> 00:02:33,157 And what's the town like? 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,032 It's pretty cool. They're all nice. 50 00:02:35,115 --> 00:02:37,198 Like, this is the first, like, concert I've been to 51 00:02:37,282 --> 00:02:39,907 where everybody that you'll meet is really nice to you. 52 00:02:39,991 --> 00:02:41,741 The biggest news, shortly before 1:30 53 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:44,407 this afternoon, President Clinton was impeached. 54 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:45,782 I'm gonna say this again. 55 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:50,157 I did not have sexual relations with that woman. 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,032 So this is the night before, the night before 57 00:02:52,115 --> 00:02:53,991 the big day kicking off, Woodstock '99. 58 00:02:54,073 --> 00:02:56,699 And right here is a little bit of a party going on. 59 00:02:56,782 --> 00:02:59,574 What's happening is 350,000 people 60 00:02:59,657 --> 00:03:02,073 are gonna be taken care of, 61 00:03:02,157 --> 00:03:04,449 by about 10,000 staff people, 62 00:03:04,532 --> 00:03:07,073 all looking over the 350,000 people. 63 00:03:30,198 --> 00:03:33,073 The biggest concert of the year was Woodstock '94 64 00:03:33,157 --> 00:03:34,157 in Saugerties, New York. 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,741 The fans not only wore the mud at the festival, 66 00:03:36,824 --> 00:03:37,907 but they also ate it. 67 00:03:37,991 --> 00:03:39,949 What was initially predicted to be an overhyped, 68 00:03:40,032 --> 00:03:43,407 commercial disaster turned out to be nothing of the sort. 69 00:03:55,866 --> 00:03:59,115 ♪ Oh, my life ♪ 70 00:03:59,198 --> 00:04:02,657 ♪ Is changing everyday ♪ 71 00:04:02,741 --> 00:04:06,073 ♪ In every possible way... ♪ 72 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:09,449 I get stopped all the time 73 00:04:09,532 --> 00:04:12,282 by people who had the time of their life 74 00:04:12,365 --> 00:04:14,115 at Woodstock '94. 75 00:04:14,198 --> 00:04:17,741 There was a tone that was set, an expectation 76 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:20,991 not only of the artists that were performing 77 00:04:21,073 --> 00:04:22,532 but an expectation 78 00:04:22,615 --> 00:04:24,574 of how the audience would perform. 79 00:04:25,449 --> 00:04:26,657 We had probably 80 00:04:26,741 --> 00:04:29,824 three or four hundred thousand people at the festival. 81 00:04:29,907 --> 00:04:32,991 Its biggest problem was the fences came down, 82 00:04:33,073 --> 00:04:35,282 so we lost money. 83 00:04:35,365 --> 00:04:37,157 Also, you know, it was raining. 84 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,532 It rained on and off all weekend, 85 00:04:39,615 --> 00:04:41,490 it was an absolute mud pit. 86 00:04:41,574 --> 00:04:45,198 People helped each other, loved each other, 87 00:04:45,282 --> 00:04:47,323 no violence. 88 00:04:47,407 --> 00:04:50,907 It was sort of, probably, the last hurrah 89 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:53,365 for the baby boomers and their kids. 90 00:04:53,449 --> 00:04:56,657 - Welcome to Woodstock 1994! - Welcome to Woodstock 1994! 91 00:04:56,741 --> 00:04:58,574 When we did Woodstock '94, 92 00:04:58,657 --> 00:05:01,782 the idea was to function as a bridge 93 00:05:01,866 --> 00:05:04,741 between the music that we generated in the '60s 94 00:05:04,824 --> 00:05:06,907 and what was contemporary in the '90s. 95 00:05:06,991 --> 00:05:12,198 And it worked really well. The weekend was amazing. 96 00:05:12,282 --> 00:05:16,240 We replicated a lineup that was reasonably close 97 00:05:16,323 --> 00:05:17,615 to what '69 was. 98 00:05:17,699 --> 00:05:21,323 You know, the general peace, love, and harmony thing 99 00:05:21,407 --> 00:05:24,115 worked still. 100 00:05:24,198 --> 00:05:25,365 After the festival, 101 00:05:25,449 --> 00:05:27,490 Michael and I looked at each other and said, 102 00:05:27,574 --> 00:05:30,699 "Okay, let's do it again in like five years." 103 00:05:36,323 --> 00:05:39,615 Woodstock seems to remain the American festival. 104 00:05:39,699 --> 00:05:41,907 And I think we should do it every five years or so, 105 00:05:41,991 --> 00:05:43,657 so a new generation of college 106 00:05:43,741 --> 00:05:46,991 and graduating high school kids get to experience it. 107 00:05:51,657 --> 00:05:54,198 In '99 we found a perfect site 108 00:05:54,282 --> 00:05:55,323 in Rome, New York. 109 00:05:55,407 --> 00:05:57,407 They've got this retired air force base 110 00:05:57,490 --> 00:05:59,365 that they don't know what to do with. 111 00:05:59,449 --> 00:06:00,907 When Woodstock Ventures 112 00:06:00,991 --> 00:06:02,198 first approached us, 113 00:06:02,282 --> 00:06:04,741 I recognized and realized that this was an opportunity 114 00:06:04,824 --> 00:06:07,365 for the big event that a community 115 00:06:07,449 --> 00:06:08,991 could put their arms around. 116 00:06:09,073 --> 00:06:11,198 Bottom line is, we wanna encourage people 117 00:06:11,282 --> 00:06:13,615 to buy some tickets and come to Rome, NY 118 00:06:13,699 --> 00:06:15,198 the weekend of the 22nd. 119 00:06:15,282 --> 00:06:17,949 It's gonna be a memorable, exciting experience. 120 00:06:18,032 --> 00:06:21,365 Five years earlier, we lost the air force base here 121 00:06:21,449 --> 00:06:24,032 which obviously had an enormous impact 122 00:06:24,115 --> 00:06:26,073 on this community emotionally. 123 00:06:26,157 --> 00:06:27,949 It was akin to economic Armageddon 124 00:06:28,032 --> 00:06:30,157 because we lost thousands of jobs 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,824 and thousands of people. 126 00:06:32,532 --> 00:06:34,449 The base was ideal 127 00:06:34,532 --> 00:06:36,991 because it had a lot of infrastructure things 128 00:06:37,073 --> 00:06:40,449 that we would've otherwise needed to build. 129 00:06:40,532 --> 00:06:43,449 Also being a former military installation, 130 00:06:43,532 --> 00:06:44,866 it was enclosed. 131 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:48,907 Griffiss was well-suited to make sure 132 00:06:48,991 --> 00:06:51,115 that people came with tickets, 133 00:06:51,907 --> 00:06:53,282 for a change. 134 00:06:53,365 --> 00:06:55,699 And then from a philosophic perspective, 135 00:06:55,782 --> 00:06:59,323 if you look at Isaiah and the old beating swords 136 00:06:59,407 --> 00:07:00,490 into plow shares, 137 00:07:00,574 --> 00:07:02,574 well this was planes into plow shares. 138 00:07:08,407 --> 00:07:10,365 I can sure remember the lead up to it, 139 00:07:10,449 --> 00:07:12,782 and it was really all anybody could talk about. 140 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,657 There was a local bar that was called Stockyard Inn 141 00:07:16,741 --> 00:07:19,407 and then they changed their name to The Woodstock Inn. 142 00:07:19,490 --> 00:07:21,532 So, you know, everybody was sort of trying 143 00:07:21,615 --> 00:07:24,824 to get involved and kind of capitalize on the excitement. 144 00:07:24,907 --> 00:07:26,657 Hi, I'm Mateo. I'm from Rome, New York. 145 00:07:26,741 --> 00:07:28,365 Here at wonderful Griffiss Air Force Base 146 00:07:28,449 --> 00:07:30,490 with a bunch of other talented artists here 147 00:07:30,574 --> 00:07:32,699 who are working on the mural. Two miles long, 148 00:07:32,782 --> 00:07:34,741 going all the way around this entire park. 149 00:07:34,824 --> 00:07:36,699 These kids right here helped me create 150 00:07:36,782 --> 00:07:39,323 a 500-foot mural 151 00:07:39,407 --> 00:07:42,824 that's kind of a celebrated, happy version of a mosh pit. 152 00:07:44,282 --> 00:07:46,365 It was always our intention 153 00:07:46,449 --> 00:07:49,532 to do something that was not your parents' Woodstock. 154 00:07:49,615 --> 00:07:52,532 It was definitely something for the kids. 155 00:07:52,615 --> 00:07:54,157 You know, I had just graduated 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,282 so once I got my money for graduation 157 00:07:56,365 --> 00:07:59,115 I didn't really have much of an excuse. 158 00:07:59,198 --> 00:08:02,032 It was expensive, but I'm gonna see 159 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,907 all these bands, so it seemed like a no-brainer. 160 00:08:04,991 --> 00:08:07,532 My friend Dave De Rosia was the guy 161 00:08:07,615 --> 00:08:09,323 who was like, "Let's go to Woodstock." 162 00:08:09,407 --> 00:08:11,699 My older brother Rob was next in line 163 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:13,407 to join in and then my younger brother 164 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:16,490 and the girl he was dating at the time wanted to go, too. 165 00:08:17,157 --> 00:08:19,949 It was gonna be awesome. 166 00:08:20,032 --> 00:08:21,949 When I saw the lineup, I was like, 167 00:08:22,032 --> 00:08:23,073 "Dude, I am going to this." 168 00:08:23,157 --> 00:08:25,907 Like, I can't imagine a better lineup 169 00:08:25,991 --> 00:08:27,824 for the music that I love right now 170 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:29,741 and they're all in one place 171 00:08:29,824 --> 00:08:32,240 and it's called Woodstock and I get to go. 172 00:08:32,323 --> 00:08:34,073 Everybody wanted to see Kid Rock. 173 00:08:34,157 --> 00:08:36,782 - DMX. - Korn. Metallica. 174 00:08:36,866 --> 00:08:38,032 Insane Clown Posse? 175 00:08:38,115 --> 00:08:39,574 Oh! Rage Against the Machine! 176 00:08:39,657 --> 00:08:40,866 And Limp Bizkit. 177 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:44,365 In 1999, those guys were massive. 178 00:08:44,449 --> 00:08:46,115 I remember I had to beg my parents. 179 00:08:46,198 --> 00:08:47,699 I was working at a pizzeria and I remember 180 00:08:47,782 --> 00:08:48,907 being on the phone with him and being like, 181 00:08:48,991 --> 00:08:50,198 "Dad, I'll go for you. I mean 182 00:08:50,282 --> 00:08:52,240 you didn't get to go to '69, I'll go to '99." 183 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:54,949 I mean I'm graduating like let's just go do this, 184 00:08:55,032 --> 00:08:57,449 this is gonna be... like the big send off, 185 00:08:57,532 --> 00:08:59,699 you know? It's Woodstock. 186 00:09:06,115 --> 00:09:07,365 One, two, three, four 187 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:12,657 ♪ Get up, get on up ♪ ♪ Get on up ♪ 188 00:09:12,741 --> 00:09:14,032 ♪ Stay on the scene ♪ 189 00:09:14,115 --> 00:09:16,490 ♪ Get on up, get on up ♪ ♪ Like a sex machine ♪ 190 00:09:17,073 --> 00:09:18,282 ♪ Get up ♪ 191 00:09:18,365 --> 00:09:20,532 I remember vividly like coming up over the hill, 192 00:09:20,615 --> 00:09:22,282 and you're just... you're blown away, right? 193 00:09:22,365 --> 00:09:25,365 The thing is huge and there's people everywhere. 194 00:09:25,449 --> 00:09:27,615 There's people dressed ridiculously 195 00:09:27,699 --> 00:09:29,323 or not dressed at all. 196 00:09:29,407 --> 00:09:30,741 And I was thinking like, 197 00:09:30,824 --> 00:09:33,782 "How did this many people already get in here?" 198 00:09:33,866 --> 00:09:36,407 - Two lanes, two lanes! - We got a founder. 199 00:09:36,490 --> 00:09:37,532 Let's go! 200 00:09:37,615 --> 00:09:39,282 One day this is gonna be on some sort of documentary. 201 00:09:39,365 --> 00:09:40,824 Hey Vince, you got it all? 202 00:09:40,907 --> 00:09:43,157 Motherfucking Woodstock, baby. 203 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,407 Security was relatively minimal. 204 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:47,866 Especially compared to the TSA days of today. 205 00:09:47,949 --> 00:09:49,782 Our friend Andy wound up making friends 206 00:09:49,866 --> 00:09:51,532 with the security guards up front. 207 00:09:51,615 --> 00:09:54,032 And all the beer that they were taking away from people 208 00:09:54,115 --> 00:09:55,824 and all the chairs that they were taking away 209 00:09:55,907 --> 00:09:59,073 from people, are right here right now. 210 00:09:59,157 --> 00:10:02,157 The peace patrol, who were monitoring the gates, 211 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,907 they just kinda looked in your stuff, 212 00:10:03,991 --> 00:10:05,323 said, "All right, you're good to go." 213 00:10:05,407 --> 00:10:06,657 Which immediately made me think, 214 00:10:06,741 --> 00:10:09,449 "Wow, I think a bunch of people have a lot of drugs here." 215 00:10:09,532 --> 00:10:13,449 We expanded Woodstock '99 by the pay-per-view 216 00:10:13,532 --> 00:10:15,240 and the MTV coverage. 217 00:10:15,323 --> 00:10:17,032 People running around topless and... 218 00:10:17,115 --> 00:10:19,365 In those days, MTV held the heartbeat 219 00:10:19,449 --> 00:10:22,282 of the younger generation in their palm. 220 00:10:22,365 --> 00:10:23,532 When we performed, 221 00:10:23,615 --> 00:10:25,365 it was like 1000 degrees. 222 00:10:25,449 --> 00:10:28,407 Somehow, the way my mind worked, was that 223 00:10:28,490 --> 00:10:31,907 the fact that the sweater I had on didn't have sleeves 224 00:10:31,991 --> 00:10:33,365 was going to... 225 00:10:33,449 --> 00:10:34,991 like that was gonna make a difference 226 00:10:35,073 --> 00:10:37,699 in the temperature on stage. 227 00:10:37,782 --> 00:10:39,574 I remember it being really hot 228 00:10:39,657 --> 00:10:43,866 and I remember a lot of chaos, a lot of confusion. 229 00:10:43,949 --> 00:10:46,991 People didn't know where they were supposed to go 230 00:10:47,073 --> 00:10:49,032 and there was a lot of white men. 231 00:10:49,115 --> 00:10:50,866 A lot of white boys I should say. 232 00:10:50,949 --> 00:10:53,991 It felt really young. Lotta of white boys 233 00:10:54,073 --> 00:10:55,991 wearing backwards baseball caps. 234 00:11:12,407 --> 00:11:14,949 Our hopes are that people have as good time this weekend 235 00:11:15,032 --> 00:11:16,240 as they did at Saugerties 236 00:11:16,323 --> 00:11:19,282 and as they did in 1969 in Bethel. 237 00:11:19,365 --> 00:11:20,699 I think this is a better facility 238 00:11:20,782 --> 00:11:22,073 than any place we've been. 239 00:11:22,157 --> 00:11:25,741 So we think that this has the potential to be, you know, 240 00:11:25,824 --> 00:11:27,532 one of the best things we've ever done. 241 00:11:27,615 --> 00:11:30,949 And be an incredible weekend for everybody who joins us. 242 00:11:31,032 --> 00:11:33,615 So, given the distance between the stages, 243 00:11:33,699 --> 00:11:36,282 any advice for people who are here for the music? 244 00:11:36,365 --> 00:11:37,782 Yeah, yeah. 245 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:42,115 That's true. It's about two-thirds of a mile. 246 00:11:42,198 --> 00:11:43,866 And in fact we have over a 100 acts, 247 00:11:43,949 --> 00:11:45,699 so you're not gonna be able to see everything. 248 00:11:45,782 --> 00:11:47,032 There's a tremendous amount to do, 249 00:11:47,115 --> 00:11:48,532 you're not gonna run out of things to do. 250 00:11:48,615 --> 00:11:49,699 You can go 24 hours a day, 251 00:11:49,782 --> 00:11:51,240 we're open all day and all night. 252 00:11:51,323 --> 00:11:54,407 We've designed a number of things in addition 253 00:11:54,490 --> 00:11:55,574 to the two main stages. 254 00:11:55,657 --> 00:11:57,449 There's an emerging artist stage, 255 00:11:57,532 --> 00:12:00,657 there's the rave for those who like to stay up all night 256 00:12:00,741 --> 00:12:02,782 and are more nocturnal than I am. 257 00:12:02,866 --> 00:12:05,490 There is the 24-hour-a-day film festival, 258 00:12:05,574 --> 00:12:07,365 there's the sports park, 259 00:12:07,449 --> 00:12:10,032 there are a lot of not-for-profit booths 260 00:12:10,115 --> 00:12:15,407 that political conversation and dialogue can take place. 261 00:12:15,490 --> 00:12:20,449 This is already very much taken shape of its own city. 262 00:12:20,532 --> 00:12:22,490 I mean, you had two main stages 263 00:12:22,574 --> 00:12:24,115 that were a mile from each other. 264 00:12:24,198 --> 00:12:27,657 They're on a black tarmac in the middle of nowhere. 265 00:12:27,741 --> 00:12:33,323 I mean, think about the irony of Woodstock on a military base. 266 00:12:33,407 --> 00:12:35,657 The appeal of Griffiss for the organizers 267 00:12:35,741 --> 00:12:37,198 was that it was a place 268 00:12:37,282 --> 00:12:39,490 that would be really hard to gate-crash 269 00:12:39,574 --> 00:12:40,991 because the peace wall. 270 00:12:41,073 --> 00:12:43,574 And really, I mean, like if we're talking about peace 271 00:12:43,657 --> 00:12:46,615 is a wall, like, a great metaphor for that? 272 00:12:52,949 --> 00:12:56,782 Woodstock '69 was about trying to show 273 00:12:56,866 --> 00:12:59,532 that there was a better way for people to treat each other. 274 00:12:59,615 --> 00:13:01,574 With more compassion and more understanding 275 00:13:01,657 --> 00:13:02,991 and given the opportunity, 276 00:13:03,073 --> 00:13:06,824 people will behave that way, will show their better self. 277 00:13:06,907 --> 00:13:08,657 And then, I mean, what could be better, 278 00:13:08,741 --> 00:13:11,032 just not being hassled by anyone, smoking a joint 279 00:13:11,115 --> 00:13:13,782 under the stars listening to great music? 280 00:13:13,866 --> 00:13:16,365 Michael Lang is who I call 281 00:13:16,449 --> 00:13:18,741 the Willie Wonka of Woodstock. 282 00:13:18,824 --> 00:13:21,782 He's this guy who's eternally boyish, 283 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:23,532 he's presiding over this fantasy land 284 00:13:23,615 --> 00:13:26,407 that every generation of kids wants to visit. 285 00:13:26,490 --> 00:13:29,741 But if you spend more than a couple minutes 286 00:13:29,824 --> 00:13:31,824 at the chocolate factory, you realize that 287 00:13:31,907 --> 00:13:36,657 it's not the idyllic utopia that it presents itself to be. 288 00:13:38,824 --> 00:13:40,907 The thing about the Woodstock mythology is 289 00:13:40,991 --> 00:13:42,699 I feel like people are being selective 290 00:13:42,782 --> 00:13:45,449 about how they're choosing to remember 291 00:13:45,532 --> 00:13:48,157 what happened, to suit their own ends. 292 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,073 And the way in which we choose to romanticize, 293 00:13:51,157 --> 00:13:54,949 it has everything to do with who is telling stories. 294 00:13:56,157 --> 00:13:58,782 Unlike the prevailing lore 295 00:13:58,866 --> 00:14:01,574 would have it, Woodstock '69 was anything 296 00:14:01,657 --> 00:14:03,615 but peace, love and, you know, three days 297 00:14:03,699 --> 00:14:04,907 of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. 298 00:14:04,991 --> 00:14:07,323 It was a mess, there were riots. 299 00:14:07,407 --> 00:14:09,824 The US Army had to airlift supplies in. 300 00:14:09,907 --> 00:14:11,574 People died. 301 00:14:11,657 --> 00:14:13,282 Really, it's out of sheer luck 302 00:14:13,365 --> 00:14:15,907 that it didn't end up worse than it did. 303 00:14:15,991 --> 00:14:18,407 And there's really some very near disasters 304 00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:20,407 that happened at the original Woodstock 305 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:22,323 that nobody remembers now. 306 00:14:22,407 --> 00:14:24,323 For instance, there was this group called 307 00:14:24,407 --> 00:14:26,073 the Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, 308 00:14:26,157 --> 00:14:28,866 who were upset about how much was being charged 309 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:30,282 for food at the festival. 310 00:14:30,365 --> 00:14:34,240 So they set fire to like a dozen food stands. 311 00:14:34,323 --> 00:14:36,615 The problem is that instead of learning 312 00:14:36,699 --> 00:14:38,574 from the mistakes that were made, 313 00:14:38,657 --> 00:14:39,949 we instead created 314 00:14:40,032 --> 00:14:43,198 this romanticized mythology in the form of the documentary. 315 00:14:43,282 --> 00:14:46,073 People watched the film and they chose to believe 316 00:14:46,157 --> 00:14:47,866 that that's the way it really was. 317 00:14:50,657 --> 00:14:52,323 ♪ And to love ♪ 318 00:14:52,407 --> 00:14:57,657 ♪ A god and to fear a flame ♪ 319 00:14:57,741 --> 00:15:00,198 ♪ And to burn ♪ 320 00:15:00,282 --> 00:15:03,198 ♪ A crowd that has a name ♪ 321 00:15:05,615 --> 00:15:09,449 ♪ And to right or wrong ♪ 322 00:15:09,532 --> 00:15:13,282 ♪ And to weak or strong ♪ 323 00:15:13,365 --> 00:15:15,365 ♪ It is known ♪ 324 00:15:15,449 --> 00:15:18,240 ♪ Just scream it from the wall ♪ 325 00:15:19,907 --> 00:15:21,782 And we ran around just taking it all in, 326 00:15:21,866 --> 00:15:22,991 everybody's fired up. 327 00:15:23,073 --> 00:15:25,574 The music is great. The fans are great. 328 00:15:28,907 --> 00:15:31,949 What band you here to see? - Metallica baby, yeah! 329 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:34,490 My friend Dave wanted to see Metallica. 330 00:15:34,574 --> 00:15:36,532 That was his mission. 331 00:15:36,615 --> 00:15:39,407 And he was keeping a journal the whole weekend. 332 00:15:42,365 --> 00:15:44,198 "Add Live to the bands seen. 333 00:15:44,282 --> 00:15:47,991 Very good. And Jamiroquai, not good. 334 00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,157 I waited for people to get me a Coke. 335 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,449 Listened to a horrible set by Andy Dick." 336 00:15:52,532 --> 00:15:54,907 Here's my big fat fucking hit! 337 00:15:54,991 --> 00:15:56,824 "Also met Mario, 338 00:15:56,907 --> 00:15:59,407 nice guy, but I got the feeling he was beat. 339 00:15:59,490 --> 00:16:02,949 I, on the other hand, am doing okay, but tired. 340 00:16:03,032 --> 00:16:06,282 I think we're going to head back to catch Korn and Bush. 341 00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:07,574 I'll let you know. 342 00:16:07,657 --> 00:16:10,323 Also boob count is too high to keep counting. 343 00:16:10,407 --> 00:16:12,574 I think we're at around 11, or 14." 344 00:16:12,657 --> 00:16:15,782 There you go Woodstock baby, '99! 345 00:16:23,657 --> 00:16:24,991 I came here with three guys. 346 00:16:25,073 --> 00:16:26,365 And I didn't remember where the tent was. 347 00:16:26,449 --> 00:16:27,782 I had only been here like an hour. 348 00:16:27,866 --> 00:16:29,949 This section is for anybody 349 00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,741 who is lost or is seeking somebody else. 350 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:33,574 Hey, I'm looking for a friend of mine. 351 00:16:33,657 --> 00:16:37,615 I brought him here yesterday and lost him, and he's 65. 352 00:16:37,699 --> 00:16:39,574 It is crazy to think about it. 353 00:16:39,657 --> 00:16:42,282 Nobody had a cellphone. Like, or if they did, 354 00:16:42,365 --> 00:16:44,574 they were very few and far between. 355 00:16:44,657 --> 00:16:46,824 Back then, you really had no way 356 00:16:46,907 --> 00:16:48,699 of getting in touch with somebody, 357 00:16:48,782 --> 00:16:49,866 finding somebody. 358 00:16:51,157 --> 00:16:57,073 It was massive, so it's not easy to find people if you get lost. 359 00:16:57,157 --> 00:16:59,907 Have you got a moment? 360 00:16:59,991 --> 00:17:01,615 - We lost her... - We lost her... 361 00:17:01,699 --> 00:17:03,866 - and now, she's found. - and now, she's found. 362 00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,407 I can have fun at Woodstock now. 363 00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:14,657 Ladies and gentlemen of Woodstock, 364 00:17:14,741 --> 00:17:17,449 a special treat for you all. 365 00:17:17,532 --> 00:17:19,615 The Backstreet Boys! 366 00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:24,699 ♪ Backstreet's back all right ♪ 367 00:17:24,782 --> 00:17:27,699 At MTV, there was like a tug of war 368 00:17:27,782 --> 00:17:29,657 for the TRL charts at the time. 369 00:17:29,741 --> 00:17:31,615 It was the Disney teens 370 00:17:31,699 --> 00:17:34,240 versus the filthy boys in cargo shorts. 371 00:17:34,323 --> 00:17:36,240 And it went that way for a couple of years. 372 00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:38,949 And Woodstock '99 was sort of at, 373 00:17:39,032 --> 00:17:40,282 like, the pinnacle of that. 374 00:17:40,365 --> 00:17:42,115 All right, you guys ready for this? 375 00:17:50,866 --> 00:17:53,741 1999 was an interesting time 376 00:17:53,824 --> 00:17:57,615 because the stage was set for something new to happen. 377 00:17:57,699 --> 00:18:02,073 And what did happen was teen pop. 378 00:18:02,157 --> 00:18:05,073 NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys and Britney and Christina 379 00:18:05,157 --> 00:18:08,699 and all of them were, like, at the top of the charts. 380 00:18:08,782 --> 00:18:10,115 And, as a reaction, 381 00:18:10,198 --> 00:18:12,490 there was all this sort of weird, 382 00:18:12,574 --> 00:18:15,741 rap inflected, aggressive rock music. 383 00:18:15,824 --> 00:18:17,323 And now falling out of the number one spot, 384 00:18:17,407 --> 00:18:18,824 back to number three today, here is Korn 385 00:18:18,907 --> 00:18:20,407 with "Freak on a Leash." 386 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,157 In the moment, TRL became 387 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,323 that cultural touch point for teenagers, 388 00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:28,490 it was must-see TV. We had all this inner-genre 389 00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:30,657 of music melding together in an hour 390 00:18:30,741 --> 00:18:31,866 where that would never have happened 391 00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:33,240 even a few years ago. 392 00:18:33,323 --> 00:18:35,323 At the time it felt like it's awesome, 393 00:18:35,407 --> 00:18:37,157 like TRL is a place like the United Nations, 394 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,449 like we all come together, 395 00:18:38,532 --> 00:18:40,490 everybody coexisted sort of magically. 396 00:18:40,574 --> 00:18:42,198 But looking back on it now, 397 00:18:42,282 --> 00:18:45,198 you realize that we were really probably playing with fire. 398 00:18:45,282 --> 00:18:47,949 I'm sick of the Backstreet Boys on MTV Live. 399 00:18:48,032 --> 00:18:49,198 I'm sick of that. 400 00:18:49,282 --> 00:18:51,824 - You know, it's fucking. - Don't hold back on me. 401 00:18:51,907 --> 00:18:54,574 - I'm not holding back. - I hate that. 402 00:18:54,657 --> 00:18:56,240 It was a weird time for MTV 403 00:18:56,323 --> 00:18:57,407 because it seemed like 404 00:18:57,490 --> 00:18:59,907 their reputation changed, their brand changed. 405 00:18:59,991 --> 00:19:01,991 The average viewer, it seemed like, 406 00:19:02,073 --> 00:19:04,198 dropped five years overnight, 407 00:19:04,282 --> 00:19:05,991 where it had once been 408 00:19:06,073 --> 00:19:08,449 kind of a counterculture-y kind of a place, 409 00:19:08,532 --> 00:19:10,532 suddenly it was like, there's Nick Jr. 410 00:19:10,615 --> 00:19:12,198 and Nickelodeon and then MTV. 411 00:19:12,282 --> 00:19:16,449 And Carson definitely got such a combination 412 00:19:16,532 --> 00:19:18,240 of like rage and jealousy 413 00:19:18,323 --> 00:19:20,949 because he was, you know, at the center of it. 414 00:19:21,032 --> 00:19:24,449 So, I've never been more happy to be overshadowed 415 00:19:24,532 --> 00:19:26,282 by someone than I was that weekend. 416 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:31,574 Awesome this right here, 417 00:19:31,657 --> 00:19:34,198 is Woodstock '99 at its finest. 418 00:19:34,282 --> 00:19:37,407 From the second we got there, 419 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:39,365 immediately we knew 420 00:19:39,449 --> 00:19:42,574 this is not a crowd that wants us here. At all. 421 00:19:42,657 --> 00:19:43,699 They were mad at us 422 00:19:43,782 --> 00:19:45,157 because we took their MTV away 423 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,282 and gave it to their little sister. 424 00:19:47,365 --> 00:19:49,240 We were in trouble. 425 00:19:55,532 --> 00:19:58,532 Growing up, Woodstock in 1969 426 00:19:58,615 --> 00:20:03,198 figured more prominently as like a cultural touchstone 427 00:20:03,282 --> 00:20:06,615 than anything else in my life. 428 00:20:06,699 --> 00:20:09,282 I can't think of anything else that even competed 429 00:20:09,365 --> 00:20:10,657 with Woodstock 430 00:20:10,741 --> 00:20:17,032 for cultural significance in the '70s, into the '80s, 431 00:20:17,115 --> 00:20:21,574 which is why when I got asked to perform in '99, 432 00:20:21,657 --> 00:20:22,699 I jumped at the chance 433 00:20:22,782 --> 00:20:25,866 because it was just such an iconic name. 434 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,907 I mean, you think of everybody who performed 435 00:20:30,991 --> 00:20:33,782 and like the number of times I've like watched the movies 436 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,615 and listened to the soundtrack recording, 437 00:20:36,699 --> 00:20:39,615 and you realized it made it seem even more magical, 438 00:20:39,699 --> 00:20:41,574 like that it happened at all. 439 00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:44,407 Like, everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. 440 00:20:45,449 --> 00:20:47,615 But somehow it worked... 441 00:20:48,907 --> 00:20:52,657 like it was as idyllic and utopian 442 00:20:52,741 --> 00:20:55,323 as a gathering of 500,000 or more people 443 00:20:55,407 --> 00:20:57,365 has ever been in human history. 444 00:20:57,449 --> 00:20:59,323 And I know that sounds like an exaggeration, 445 00:20:59,407 --> 00:21:00,657 but it really isn't. 446 00:21:10,907 --> 00:21:12,824 Problem was, 447 00:21:12,907 --> 00:21:16,198 see there's a little expression of ATD, attention to detail. 448 00:21:16,282 --> 00:21:18,198 My name wasn't on the piece of plywood. 449 00:21:18,282 --> 00:21:19,490 And there's this little piece of plywood 450 00:21:19,574 --> 00:21:21,115 that welcomes you when you come in. 451 00:21:21,198 --> 00:21:22,407 - And all the artists signed... - And all the artists' names 452 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:23,657 are on the piece of plywood and my name 453 00:21:23,741 --> 00:21:25,198 wasn't on the piece of plywood and I... 454 00:21:26,365 --> 00:21:27,991 Who's ever even heard of these bands? 455 00:21:28,073 --> 00:21:29,198 All have been slashed... 456 00:21:29,282 --> 00:21:30,532 Okay, let's find bands we've never even heard of. 457 00:21:30,615 --> 00:21:33,657 Spitfire, Our Lady Peace, The Umbilical Brothers. 458 00:21:34,741 --> 00:21:36,157 What's that one that starts with an "O?" 459 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,157 Buckcherry. Oleander. Buckcherry. 460 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,323 I remember. I looked at the lineup 461 00:21:41,407 --> 00:21:43,365 and I was like, "What is this?" 462 00:21:43,449 --> 00:21:45,365 like, "How did this happen? 463 00:21:45,449 --> 00:21:47,741 How is this called Woodstock?" 464 00:21:47,824 --> 00:21:49,240 It would have made so much more sense 465 00:21:49,323 --> 00:21:50,657 if it had been called like, 466 00:21:50,741 --> 00:21:54,782 Army Base Rock '99, featuring Limp Bizkit. 467 00:21:58,073 --> 00:22:01,282 There is a sixth sense that you develop 468 00:22:01,365 --> 00:22:02,532 when you spend your life, like, 469 00:22:02,615 --> 00:22:04,574 going to nightclubs, going to venues. 470 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,407 Like, I can tell you a hundred feet away 471 00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:09,782 what the energy in that venue is gonna be like. 472 00:22:09,866 --> 00:22:13,240 You develop it after decades of being around venues. 473 00:22:13,323 --> 00:22:15,449 We got off the bus and I was like, 474 00:22:15,532 --> 00:22:19,157 "Something's not right," and this was the first day. 475 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,741 And I was just like, something... 476 00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:22,073 You could just tell. 477 00:22:22,157 --> 00:22:25,157 And, like, I started walking through the crowd, 478 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,198 and like everybody was angry, and everybody was hot, 479 00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:30,991 and everybody was complaining. 480 00:22:31,073 --> 00:22:33,907 And it had only been open for six hours. 481 00:22:33,991 --> 00:22:36,407 And it was already off the rails. 482 00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:40,741 I need everybody who can see me 483 00:22:40,824 --> 00:22:43,782 to put your motherfucking "X" s in the air. 484 00:22:46,407 --> 00:22:48,240 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 485 00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:50,699 Woodstock, where you at? 486 00:22:52,824 --> 00:22:54,824 Where ya at? 487 00:22:57,991 --> 00:23:02,032 DMX, at that time, he was, you know, very much 488 00:23:02,115 --> 00:23:05,449 - a man of the people. - Is it on? 489 00:23:07,198 --> 00:23:09,991 Is it on? 490 00:23:10,866 --> 00:23:12,407 So I think he had a persona 491 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:14,741 that was very accessible. 492 00:23:14,824 --> 00:23:18,615 His performance at Woodstock was unparalleled. 493 00:23:18,699 --> 00:23:22,073 I mean, I feel like he's a man possessed in front of, you know, 494 00:23:22,157 --> 00:23:23,824 hundreds of thousands of people and, 495 00:23:23,907 --> 00:23:25,282 I mean, that stage was huge. 496 00:23:25,365 --> 00:23:27,615 You know, the fact that he was able to sort of navigate 497 00:23:27,699 --> 00:23:29,824 and to own it, I think it speaks 498 00:23:29,907 --> 00:23:33,323 to what the moment meant for him. 499 00:23:33,407 --> 00:23:38,824 - Oh-ho! Oh-ho! - Oh-ho! Oh-ho! 500 00:23:38,907 --> 00:23:40,490 It's call-and-response, right? 501 00:23:40,574 --> 00:23:43,907 This is a classic, black gospel way 502 00:23:43,991 --> 00:23:46,657 of communicating in music form. 503 00:23:46,741 --> 00:23:48,198 The preacher says something 504 00:23:48,282 --> 00:23:50,407 the congregation knows what to say in response. 505 00:23:51,615 --> 00:23:54,073 ♪ You won't take this from me, baby ♪ 506 00:23:54,157 --> 00:23:58,407 ♪ You will not take this from me, baby ♪ 507 00:23:58,490 --> 00:24:01,699 ♪ Come on, come on, come on My niggas ♪ 508 00:24:01,782 --> 00:24:03,282 ♪ Some niggas that you don't wanna try ♪ 509 00:24:03,365 --> 00:24:06,323 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Some niggas that's really do or die ♪ 510 00:24:06,407 --> 00:24:08,824 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Will have you cowards ready to cry ♪ 511 00:24:08,907 --> 00:24:10,282 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Will fry ♪ 512 00:24:10,365 --> 00:24:11,991 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Will rob ♪ 513 00:24:12,073 --> 00:24:13,365 You could hear it. 514 00:24:13,449 --> 00:24:14,907 You can hear thousands of people. 515 00:24:14,991 --> 00:24:17,699 He says it, and it comes back at him 516 00:24:17,782 --> 00:24:19,115 at twice the intensity. 517 00:24:19,198 --> 00:24:20,741 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Is God ♪ 518 00:24:20,824 --> 00:24:22,323 - ♪ My niggas ♪ - ♪ Will shine ♪ 519 00:24:22,407 --> 00:24:24,824 And what's so chilling about it is 520 00:24:24,907 --> 00:24:26,532 they were ready to do it! 521 00:24:26,615 --> 00:24:29,866 They were like hoping that he would do this song. 522 00:24:29,949 --> 00:24:31,657 - ♪ My niggas, my niggas ♪ - ♪ Is fine ♪ 523 00:24:31,741 --> 00:24:34,532 You have to understand this sort of thing 524 00:24:34,615 --> 00:24:38,365 wasn't happening on a regular basis in 1999. 525 00:24:38,449 --> 00:24:41,365 There weren't a lot of occasions for black rappers 526 00:24:41,449 --> 00:24:45,699 to command a crowd exclusively almost of white people, 527 00:24:45,782 --> 00:24:49,032 where the black performer is essentially licensing 528 00:24:49,115 --> 00:24:52,949 the people in the crowd to say this word with him. 529 00:24:53,073 --> 00:24:54,574 - ♪ Is dogs ♪ - ♪ My nigga ♪ 530 00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,574 Where you at, baby? 531 00:24:58,657 --> 00:25:01,240 To perform a thing that they don't believe. 532 00:25:01,323 --> 00:25:03,907 Or maybe they do believe it, but if you were to ask them 533 00:25:03,991 --> 00:25:07,198 what they believe, if you got each one of these guys 534 00:25:07,282 --> 00:25:09,115 after the show and pulled each one of them show aside 535 00:25:09,198 --> 00:25:11,949 and say, "Is it okay to say the N-word 536 00:25:12,032 --> 00:25:13,574 under any circumstances?" 537 00:25:13,657 --> 00:25:16,365 They would, to a person, say, 538 00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:18,991 "I mean the right answer is no. Right?" 539 00:25:22,991 --> 00:25:25,574 And so I'm wondering, what is it like 540 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:27,907 for the other black people in a moment like this. 541 00:25:27,991 --> 00:25:29,407 What are they thinking? 542 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:30,699 If they went with friends 543 00:25:30,782 --> 00:25:32,949 who they didn't think were N-word sayers 544 00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:34,490 under any circumstances, 545 00:25:34,574 --> 00:25:36,907 what were those friendships like? What happened? 546 00:25:36,991 --> 00:25:38,782 I mean, what was the racial dynamic 547 00:25:38,866 --> 00:25:41,782 for the few non-white people who were there? 548 00:25:41,866 --> 00:25:44,615 And imagine being a non-white woman, 549 00:25:44,699 --> 00:25:46,532 what that experience was like for you. 550 00:25:50,574 --> 00:25:54,115 Rosie Perez! 551 00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:08,449 Aw, come on now. 552 00:26:08,532 --> 00:26:11,032 How are y'all feeling out there? 553 00:26:13,949 --> 00:26:14,991 So... 554 00:26:17,365 --> 00:26:19,574 I ain't showing you all shit! 555 00:26:23,991 --> 00:26:24,991 All right. 556 00:26:25,073 --> 00:26:26,824 There was a local radio station 557 00:26:26,907 --> 00:26:30,157 that rolled in with a little trailer 558 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,157 and they had two naked girls or topless girls on top, 559 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,824 so it had this anachronistic, like Girls Gone Wild vibe. 560 00:26:39,115 --> 00:26:41,157 Sometimes there's an abundance of things, 561 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,282 and sometimes there's a lack. 562 00:26:44,365 --> 00:26:47,615 Today, there's an abundance of titties. 563 00:26:50,949 --> 00:26:53,907 If you look back, the Girls Gone Wild cohort 564 00:26:53,991 --> 00:26:58,073 was a sort of reaction to the first part of the decade. 565 00:26:58,157 --> 00:27:00,198 It was like "Girls, like, no. Know your place. 566 00:27:00,282 --> 00:27:01,365 You're sex objects 567 00:27:01,449 --> 00:27:04,198 and you're supposed to be pretty and shut up." 568 00:27:04,282 --> 00:27:06,657 I think that there's a generation of girls 569 00:27:06,741 --> 00:27:08,866 that were brought up looking at Girls Gone Wild 570 00:27:08,949 --> 00:27:11,824 and thinking "Wow, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. 571 00:27:11,907 --> 00:27:16,073 This is how real girls get men." 572 00:27:16,157 --> 00:27:18,282 There was just a feeling of, 573 00:27:18,365 --> 00:27:21,198 "Let's put these girls back where they belong, 574 00:27:21,282 --> 00:27:23,365 in their cages, in their boxes 575 00:27:23,449 --> 00:27:25,907 and let's show everyone who's boss." 576 00:27:28,115 --> 00:27:29,866 When you watch the pay-per-view 577 00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:31,407 of Woodstock '99, 578 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:33,699 it's pretty clear that the cameramen 579 00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:37,365 are seeking out as much female nudity as possible. 580 00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:40,657 Okay, I think you've looked at the breasts long enough now, 581 00:27:40,741 --> 00:27:42,449 can you just move along now? 582 00:27:43,282 --> 00:27:44,741 And, it just seems like, 583 00:27:44,824 --> 00:27:46,490 if you're selling this pay-per-view 584 00:27:46,574 --> 00:27:49,741 to a young audience that's part of what you're selling. 585 00:27:49,824 --> 00:27:53,407 So the degree to which exploitation of women 586 00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:57,157 was not only excused but formalized 587 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,449 and made part of the business plan 588 00:27:59,532 --> 00:28:02,699 of Woodstock '99, that certainly created an environment 589 00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:05,323 where people felt that exploiting women, 590 00:28:05,407 --> 00:28:09,032 abusing women, hurting women, was gonna be okay. 591 00:28:09,115 --> 00:28:10,115 And you could get away with it 592 00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:12,282 if that's something you wanted to do. 593 00:28:12,365 --> 00:28:16,991 In 1999, we were still dealing with the fallout 594 00:28:17,073 --> 00:28:19,449 from the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, 595 00:28:19,532 --> 00:28:23,699 where Bill Clinton drove a truck over her in trying to wiggle out 596 00:28:23,782 --> 00:28:27,115 of what had actually happened. She was disposable essentially. 597 00:28:27,198 --> 00:28:29,449 I mean, we were disposing of women 598 00:28:29,532 --> 00:28:31,407 left and right at that point. 599 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:33,615 So you've got your Maxim subscription. 600 00:28:33,699 --> 00:28:36,282 FHM. You've got Girls Gone Wild. 601 00:28:36,365 --> 00:28:39,449 And it just feels like women are basically there 602 00:28:39,532 --> 00:28:41,699 to just be sexy for men. 603 00:28:43,866 --> 00:28:46,282 It's only fair, you know, they're gonna do it to us. 604 00:28:46,365 --> 00:28:48,198 It's only fair. That's right. 605 00:28:51,282 --> 00:28:53,407 Unlike '94, 606 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:57,866 there were so many naked women walking in the fields, 607 00:28:57,949 --> 00:29:00,574 that you couldn't count it. 608 00:29:00,657 --> 00:29:04,365 I think we've pretty much taken over Woodstock '99, so. 609 00:29:06,032 --> 00:29:08,198 It was the most promiscuous 610 00:29:08,866 --> 00:29:11,032 of my lifetime, you know. 611 00:29:11,115 --> 00:29:14,824 I don't see shows with naked women running around, 612 00:29:14,907 --> 00:29:16,157 you know, anymore. 613 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,615 - Woodstock '99! - Woodstock '99! 614 00:29:21,615 --> 00:29:23,866 And, you know, you gotta think 615 00:29:23,949 --> 00:29:25,032 you probably got an audience 616 00:29:25,115 --> 00:29:27,907 of an average age in their early 20s. 617 00:29:27,991 --> 00:29:32,490 Guys in their early 20s tend to be horny 24 hours a day. 618 00:29:33,741 --> 00:29:38,490 Because of this MTV spring break feeling in the air, 619 00:29:38,574 --> 00:29:41,782 you know, there was some people who were disrespectful. 620 00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,407 Five-year plan! Oh, I will be back again. 621 00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:49,866 There was a definite hyper sexuality to that time. 622 00:29:49,949 --> 00:29:53,657 Girls Gone Wild, porn was in the mainstream, 623 00:29:53,741 --> 00:29:56,866 but that isn't an excuse for some dipshit 624 00:29:56,949 --> 00:29:59,782 to grab a girl's titty when she's coming up over the pit. 625 00:30:01,615 --> 00:30:02,699 No artist wants that, 626 00:30:02,782 --> 00:30:04,615 no one sits there and goes, "Oh, look at that." 627 00:30:04,699 --> 00:30:07,240 It's disgusting. It's not cool. 628 00:30:07,323 --> 00:30:08,699 And then that's when you get pissed 629 00:30:08,782 --> 00:30:11,032 that you'll call out a fan, that can beat that guy's ass. 630 00:30:11,115 --> 00:30:13,240 I'll get in trouble and sued for it, 631 00:30:13,323 --> 00:30:14,991 beat that motherfucker's ass right there. 632 00:30:15,073 --> 00:30:18,615 "You. You just did that." 633 00:30:21,407 --> 00:30:23,198 All right, thanks a lot! 634 00:30:23,282 --> 00:30:25,365 Hey, are you guys having a good time? 635 00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:28,323 All right! 636 00:30:28,407 --> 00:30:30,907 Goddamn it, I'm having a good time. 637 00:30:30,991 --> 00:30:32,365 But you know what, I was noticing something 638 00:30:32,449 --> 00:30:34,699 I gotta call your guys attention to here for just a second. 639 00:30:34,782 --> 00:30:36,282 I've been noticing that there's a lot of girls 640 00:30:36,365 --> 00:30:38,824 coming over to the top here, crowd surfing, 641 00:30:38,907 --> 00:30:40,407 and they're getting really groped, 642 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:41,699 you know what I mean? 643 00:30:43,157 --> 00:30:45,073 Now I think just 'cause a girl 644 00:30:45,157 --> 00:30:46,866 wants to go crowd surfing or whatever, 645 00:30:46,949 --> 00:30:49,240 that doesn't give a guy the right to molest them, 646 00:30:49,323 --> 00:30:53,032 you know what I'm saying? 647 00:30:53,115 --> 00:30:55,532 So if you're a guy and you see a girl passing overhead, 648 00:30:55,615 --> 00:30:58,657 give her a break, all right, you know what I'm saying? 649 00:30:58,741 --> 00:31:02,032 And if you're a girl and you see a guy passing overhead, 650 00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:04,615 I want you to grab his fucking balls! 651 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:13,032 ♪ La, la, la, la, la ♪ 652 00:31:13,741 --> 00:31:15,574 "Friday, July 23rd. 653 00:31:15,657 --> 00:31:17,782 Caught the tail end of Offspring. 654 00:31:17,866 --> 00:31:19,407 More naked boobs. 655 00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:21,032 It's kind of getting old. 656 00:31:21,699 --> 00:31:25,073 Outlook for a shower, not good. 657 00:31:25,157 --> 00:31:27,866 Tomorrow's goal get on the Woodstock video 658 00:31:27,949 --> 00:31:29,449 by being in the Metallica pit." 659 00:31:29,532 --> 00:31:30,782 All right, now do me a favor 660 00:31:30,866 --> 00:31:32,323 and sing along to this one, all right? 661 00:31:32,407 --> 00:31:34,115 "Rock on!" 662 00:31:34,198 --> 00:31:37,782 ♪ I wrote her off For the tenth time today ♪ 663 00:31:37,866 --> 00:31:38,866 We are on the first day 664 00:31:38,949 --> 00:31:41,073 and it wasn't even quite nighttime yet. 665 00:31:41,157 --> 00:31:44,699 And, I mean, I like rowdy shows like that's a lot of the fun 666 00:31:44,782 --> 00:31:46,240 is the energy of the crowd and stuff, 667 00:31:46,323 --> 00:31:48,782 and you could feel something bubbling 668 00:31:48,866 --> 00:31:50,490 I can't quite put my finger on it, but... 669 00:31:50,574 --> 00:31:52,657 It was all the shit being thrown up on stage. 670 00:31:52,741 --> 00:31:54,782 - Oh, yeah, that kinda... - And I don't think we even asked 671 00:31:54,866 --> 00:31:55,991 - for it, I mean... - That's a tip-off. 672 00:31:56,073 --> 00:31:59,615 ♪ That's okay, man, 'Cause I like the abuse ♪ 673 00:31:59,699 --> 00:32:03,949 ♪ I know she's playing with me ♪ 674 00:32:04,032 --> 00:32:06,824 ♪ That's okay 'cause I got No self-esteem ♪ 675 00:32:06,907 --> 00:32:09,240 It really seemed like in pop culture, 676 00:32:09,323 --> 00:32:12,824 there's this dark energy coming from young white males 677 00:32:12,907 --> 00:32:16,907 that entertainment is both catering to and perpetuating. 678 00:32:16,991 --> 00:32:18,323 We've all been raised on television 679 00:32:18,407 --> 00:32:20,574 to believe that one day we'd be all millionaires, 680 00:32:20,657 --> 00:32:24,073 and movie gods, and rock stars but we won't. 681 00:32:25,365 --> 00:32:26,907 We're slowly learning that fact. 682 00:32:28,323 --> 00:32:31,240 And we're very, very pissed off. 683 00:32:31,323 --> 00:32:33,032 At the end of the millennium, 684 00:32:33,115 --> 00:32:37,115 a lot of movies marketed toward young people with anger 685 00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:39,866 and with what is sexual assault. 686 00:32:39,949 --> 00:32:41,449 And we thought nothing of it at the time. 687 00:32:41,532 --> 00:32:43,741 It was boys and girls alike 688 00:32:43,824 --> 00:32:45,782 clapped at the end of the movie, and that was that. 689 00:32:47,115 --> 00:32:48,824 You know, you've got this festival 690 00:32:48,907 --> 00:32:51,991 that's supposed to be espousing countercultural, 691 00:32:52,073 --> 00:32:56,699 loftier ideals when the '90s were anything but that. 692 00:32:56,782 --> 00:33:01,824 So why attempt to manufacture nostalgia for Woodstock '69, 693 00:33:01,907 --> 00:33:04,449 an event that none of these kids were alive for? 694 00:33:08,824 --> 00:33:11,615 Hold on. 695 00:33:35,824 --> 00:33:37,574 A theme through the festival 696 00:33:37,657 --> 00:33:39,407 was that artists kept making echoes 697 00:33:39,490 --> 00:33:41,991 about the original festival that were completely lost 698 00:33:42,073 --> 00:33:43,490 on those that were there. 699 00:33:43,574 --> 00:33:45,490 Pat, who played the "Star Spangled Banner" 700 00:33:45,574 --> 00:33:47,115 at the original Woodstock? 701 00:33:48,449 --> 00:33:50,282 - I can't remember. - Come on, man, 702 00:33:50,365 --> 00:33:52,157 you gotta work with me here. Try. 703 00:33:53,115 --> 00:33:55,282 Shit, is the name Jerry? 704 00:33:55,365 --> 00:33:57,824 Woodstock was something that was talked about 705 00:33:57,907 --> 00:34:01,073 but not really like a part of '90s rock culture. 706 00:34:01,157 --> 00:34:03,282 And '90s rock culture was booming in a way that made 707 00:34:03,365 --> 00:34:07,115 '60s rock culture seemed trivial and outdated in a lot of ways. 708 00:34:07,198 --> 00:34:09,490 - Give me an F. - F! 709 00:34:09,574 --> 00:34:11,782 - Give me a U. Give me a... - U! 710 00:34:11,866 --> 00:34:14,115 And then when Bush led the crowd 711 00:34:14,198 --> 00:34:16,824 in a F-U-C-K cheer, you know, 712 00:34:16,907 --> 00:34:19,073 that had gotten Country Joe and the Fish 713 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:21,991 in so much trouble back 30 years earlier, 714 00:34:22,073 --> 00:34:24,824 absolutely nobody in the crowd got that joke 715 00:34:24,907 --> 00:34:27,365 or understood why it was supposed to be amusing. 716 00:34:59,282 --> 00:35:01,824 So, you know, it's interesting, 717 00:35:01,907 --> 00:35:04,323 going back to the way Nirvana on Nevermind 718 00:35:04,407 --> 00:35:05,824 with their little parody of, you know, 719 00:35:05,907 --> 00:35:08,657 "Everybody get together, try to love one another right now." 720 00:35:08,741 --> 00:35:10,824 ♪ Everybody get together ♪ 721 00:35:10,907 --> 00:35:15,073 ♪ Try to love One another right now ♪ 722 00:35:15,157 --> 00:35:18,032 For the crowd that was at Woodstock '99, 723 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,449 the idea of Nirvana and Pearl Jam was as outdated 724 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:23,449 as seeing Creedence Clearwater Revival or the Grateful Dead. 725 00:35:23,532 --> 00:35:25,949 You know, it was not something that was really in sync 726 00:35:26,032 --> 00:35:29,365 with the kids who were there to see Korn and Limp Bizkit. 727 00:35:38,282 --> 00:35:41,157 ♪ Are you ready? ♪ 728 00:36:02,949 --> 00:36:07,741 ♪ This place inside my mind A place I like to hide ♪ 729 00:36:07,824 --> 00:36:10,615 ♪ You don't know the chances ♪ 730 00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:13,907 - ♪ What if I should die? ♪ - ♪ A place inside my... ♪ 731 00:36:13,991 --> 00:36:16,198 I can't even put it into words what I was feeling. 732 00:36:16,282 --> 00:36:18,574 I'm feeling numb. I don't feel anything. 733 00:36:18,657 --> 00:36:21,490 I'm just like in the zone, like, "Oh my God, 734 00:36:21,574 --> 00:36:23,741 okay, I gotta go out there and kill this." 735 00:36:23,824 --> 00:36:26,615 And I know for a fact they're not all Korn fans, 736 00:36:26,699 --> 00:36:28,574 so I gotta win these fuckers over. 737 00:36:30,991 --> 00:36:32,365 The crowd was so big that they had 738 00:36:32,449 --> 00:36:35,240 three sets of PAs set up and they were time aligned, 739 00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:36,741 but you could see how sound travels 740 00:36:36,824 --> 00:36:38,991 'cause they would jump in time so that the crowd 741 00:36:39,073 --> 00:36:40,574 would do this wave effect. 742 00:36:40,657 --> 00:36:44,699 After that, I was like, "Fuck, I don't have... I left my body." 743 00:36:44,782 --> 00:36:47,323 I can't tell you what the fuck happened after that. 744 00:36:48,699 --> 00:36:53,323 Come on, Woodstock! 745 00:36:54,866 --> 00:36:58,449 I just went as hard and as intense as I could go 746 00:36:58,532 --> 00:37:01,615 and still sing, but it was so fucking hot, 747 00:37:01,699 --> 00:37:03,615 I literally collapsed after the last song. 748 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:06,282 I walked backstage, and I fell on the ground. 749 00:37:06,365 --> 00:37:07,741 They put bags of ice all over me 750 00:37:07,824 --> 00:37:09,782 and ran IVs and put me on oxygen. 751 00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:12,073 I was that... I was gone. 752 00:37:16,866 --> 00:37:19,699 My only goal is to be front row for Korn, 753 00:37:19,782 --> 00:37:21,699 so I fought my way through and I remember 754 00:37:21,782 --> 00:37:23,866 thinking to myself, "Wow there's probably 755 00:37:23,949 --> 00:37:25,574 50,000 people behind me." 756 00:37:30,073 --> 00:37:31,365 And then during the concert, 757 00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,991 I started feeling a little funny. 758 00:37:33,073 --> 00:37:35,741 I was cold and I thought to myself, 759 00:37:35,824 --> 00:37:38,240 "It's gotta be 110 degrees out here. 760 00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:39,574 Why am I cold?" 761 00:37:39,657 --> 00:37:43,699 And it dawned on me like, "Wow, I think have hypothermia." 762 00:37:43,782 --> 00:37:45,991 My body's never felt this way before 763 00:37:46,073 --> 00:37:48,782 and I said, "I think I'm in trouble." 764 00:37:51,615 --> 00:37:53,365 I was very near the stage 765 00:37:53,449 --> 00:37:57,032 and like person after person was like pulled out of the pit. 766 00:38:03,365 --> 00:38:05,866 I worked Hurricane Katrina 767 00:38:05,949 --> 00:38:07,198 and Hurricane Rita 768 00:38:07,282 --> 00:38:10,073 and Hurricane Sandy but whenever people ask me 769 00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:12,282 about Woodstock '99, I always say 770 00:38:12,365 --> 00:38:15,574 that it was the greatest disaster I ever went to. 771 00:38:16,782 --> 00:38:19,699 For any event like this, environmental concerns 772 00:38:19,782 --> 00:38:22,032 are gonna definitely be at the forefront, 773 00:38:22,115 --> 00:38:25,032 and the heat was absolutely atrocious. 774 00:38:25,115 --> 00:38:27,449 So you had to worry about heat stroke, 775 00:38:27,532 --> 00:38:30,198 heat exhaustion, hyperthermia. 776 00:38:30,282 --> 00:38:33,824 We need to make sure that people are staying hydrated. 777 00:38:33,907 --> 00:38:36,699 Everybody that was there was like packed together. 778 00:38:36,782 --> 00:38:39,032 And bodies generate heat 779 00:38:39,115 --> 00:38:40,741 then other bodies right next to it 780 00:38:40,824 --> 00:38:42,157 are absorbing that heat. 781 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,407 And then they have these huge runways made of asphalt. 782 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,615 It definitely added to increased ground temperatures. 783 00:38:49,699 --> 00:38:50,907 Every single night, 784 00:38:50,991 --> 00:38:53,198 we were doing like a thousand transports 785 00:38:53,282 --> 00:38:55,407 and a lot of them were just dehydrations 786 00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:57,949 because people didn't have enough water that day. 787 00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:02,574 I would say 90 percent of the cases that we saw 788 00:39:02,657 --> 00:39:08,198 were caused by the environment and the lack of access to water. 789 00:39:08,282 --> 00:39:09,824 The one thing I would say is, 790 00:39:09,907 --> 00:39:12,699 if you don't like heat, don't come to Woodstock '99. 791 00:39:12,782 --> 00:39:14,240 It is hot. 792 00:39:14,323 --> 00:39:19,198 Please don't come unless you are prepared to be baked. 793 00:39:19,282 --> 00:39:21,699 - Anything else? - Okay. Another refreshment coming. 794 00:39:21,782 --> 00:39:23,323 Everything was pretty highly regulated 795 00:39:23,407 --> 00:39:25,198 with the vendors all the water had to be sold 796 00:39:25,282 --> 00:39:27,157 for four dollars a bottle, 797 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,615 which, you know, even now 20 years later 798 00:39:29,699 --> 00:39:31,532 is a ridiculous cost. 799 00:39:31,615 --> 00:39:33,323 I couldn't believe that bottles of water 800 00:39:33,407 --> 00:39:34,907 were four dollars. I wasn't prepared 801 00:39:34,991 --> 00:39:37,032 to pay four dollars for water. 802 00:39:37,115 --> 00:39:39,699 When the beer is the same price of water, 803 00:39:39,782 --> 00:39:43,157 as a kid if, if I had a choice, I would choose the beer, too. 804 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,115 And then on top of that, the alcohol is actually 805 00:39:45,198 --> 00:39:46,615 dehydrating you further. 806 00:39:46,699 --> 00:39:48,615 There were accounts 807 00:39:48,699 --> 00:39:51,782 that security guards in searching kids 808 00:39:51,866 --> 00:39:55,282 before they came in were told, "Under no means 809 00:39:55,365 --> 00:39:57,198 let them come in with their own food, 810 00:39:57,282 --> 00:39:58,407 their own water." 811 00:39:58,490 --> 00:40:01,615 But when it came to drugs, the guards were happy 812 00:40:01,699 --> 00:40:04,991 to take a 20 or a 50 to look the other way. 813 00:40:07,365 --> 00:40:10,157 In 1999, I was 23 years old, 814 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,657 and a good friend of mine called me up one day 815 00:40:12,741 --> 00:40:15,866 and asked me if I wanted to work security 816 00:40:15,949 --> 00:40:18,073 at Woodstock '99. 817 00:40:18,157 --> 00:40:21,782 The security was hard to hire. They're a lot of them. 818 00:40:21,866 --> 00:40:23,615 And we had to get licensed ones, 819 00:40:23,699 --> 00:40:26,449 which, you know, was not that easy. 820 00:40:26,532 --> 00:40:28,949 They had a three-hour class I had to take 821 00:40:29,032 --> 00:40:31,574 and the instructor basically spent 822 00:40:31,657 --> 00:40:33,365 the last two hours of the class 823 00:40:33,449 --> 00:40:36,282 going through the test question by question, 824 00:40:36,365 --> 00:40:38,574 giving the answer and then at the end of that, 825 00:40:38,657 --> 00:40:41,157 then he handed out the test and we took it. 826 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,323 It was kind of anyone that, you know, was semi-lucid 827 00:40:44,407 --> 00:40:46,824 and could write their name was eligible 828 00:40:46,907 --> 00:40:51,157 to be a security guard at Woodstock '99. 829 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:56,073 At the gates, we had our most trusted security guys. 830 00:40:56,157 --> 00:40:58,365 So if somebody was trying to take money, 831 00:40:58,449 --> 00:41:00,407 it would have got caught. 832 00:41:01,073 --> 00:41:02,824 And with drinking water, 833 00:41:02,907 --> 00:41:06,157 it was unquestionably lots of free water. 834 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,615 You know, I mean, we worked 835 00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:10,532 with the health department to create a water system 836 00:41:10,615 --> 00:41:12,699 that would accommodate everybody who was there. 837 00:41:12,782 --> 00:41:15,866 You didn't have to buy water if you didn't want to. 838 00:41:15,949 --> 00:41:19,032 Yes, bottles of water were four dollars. 839 00:41:19,115 --> 00:41:22,073 It was somewhat on the high side, 840 00:41:22,157 --> 00:41:25,532 but it wasn't as ridiculous as it got made out to be 841 00:41:25,615 --> 00:41:29,282 and if you're gonna go to a festival, 842 00:41:29,365 --> 00:41:30,657 you bring money with you. 843 00:41:30,741 --> 00:41:33,907 This was not a poor man's festival. 844 00:41:34,032 --> 00:41:35,365 What's this line for? 845 00:41:35,449 --> 00:41:36,907 - The ATM machine. - Yeah. 846 00:41:36,991 --> 00:41:38,365 - The ATM? - ATM. 847 00:41:38,449 --> 00:41:41,115 We've been waiting here a long time. 848 00:41:41,198 --> 00:41:43,782 We're 18. I'm working at a pizzeria for minimum wage. 849 00:41:43,866 --> 00:41:45,824 We're hot, we're sweaty, we're tired. 850 00:41:45,907 --> 00:41:47,115 We didn't sleep well. We're not starting 851 00:41:47,198 --> 00:41:48,782 on the best footing to start our, you know, 852 00:41:48,866 --> 00:41:50,407 three day of adventure, you know. 853 00:41:50,490 --> 00:41:51,907 Turn on the water! 854 00:41:51,991 --> 00:41:55,699 Dude, what do you think about the water shortage, man? 855 00:41:55,782 --> 00:41:57,907 - It is fucked up. - Shit is fucked up, man. 856 00:41:57,991 --> 00:42:00,198 - No more water. - Let's start a riot. 857 00:42:00,282 --> 00:42:03,032 Woodstock '99, the riots. 858 00:42:03,115 --> 00:42:05,157 I'm a college kid. I'm 20 years old. 859 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,907 There's a lot of people that were younger than me. 860 00:42:06,991 --> 00:42:09,032 There's a lot of people that just like 861 00:42:09,115 --> 00:42:11,032 paid a lot of money to go to this festival. 862 00:42:16,032 --> 00:42:17,991 You would go to these little troughs 863 00:42:18,073 --> 00:42:20,449 where you're supposed to be able to have a drink 864 00:42:20,532 --> 00:42:23,073 and there was people showering in them. 865 00:42:23,157 --> 00:42:24,323 So, while you just wanted 866 00:42:24,407 --> 00:42:25,949 to like douse your face with water 867 00:42:26,032 --> 00:42:28,782 or brush your teeth or do something with water, 868 00:42:28,866 --> 00:42:31,407 there was just people like full-on showering, 869 00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:34,365 you know, shampoo, soap. 870 00:42:34,449 --> 00:42:37,323 And then at some point, I think somebody busted a pipe 871 00:42:37,407 --> 00:42:40,615 because they were so tired of waiting for the water. 872 00:42:40,699 --> 00:42:41,949 So, then there was just like, 873 00:42:42,032 --> 00:42:44,657 all this water just going all over the place 874 00:42:44,741 --> 00:42:46,866 near the campgrounds and even flowing 875 00:42:46,949 --> 00:42:49,657 into the camp area, which led to the mud. 876 00:42:52,282 --> 00:42:53,574 The porta potties, 877 00:42:53,657 --> 00:42:56,615 it didn't take long for them to become pretty much unusable. 878 00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:58,741 They were backing up pretty quickly 879 00:42:58,824 --> 00:43:01,073 and then the sewage was seeping out, 880 00:43:01,157 --> 00:43:03,991 to the point where you had kids 881 00:43:04,073 --> 00:43:05,574 within the first 24 hours 882 00:43:05,657 --> 00:43:07,365 rolling around in what they thought was mud 883 00:43:07,449 --> 00:43:09,949 but was really human waste. 884 00:43:14,615 --> 00:43:16,532 That mud that these people were in, 885 00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:17,991 as far as I was concerned, 886 00:43:18,073 --> 00:43:20,198 based on what I saw, it was mud and shit. 887 00:43:20,282 --> 00:43:22,824 So I did see people covered in that, 888 00:43:22,907 --> 00:43:24,490 thought that was pretty strange, 889 00:43:24,574 --> 00:43:26,657 not a thing I would normally see where I come from. 890 00:43:26,741 --> 00:43:27,991 We are going on a mission 891 00:43:28,073 --> 00:43:29,532 that nobody has ever gone on. 892 00:43:29,615 --> 00:43:30,782 Oh, you see. You can smell. 893 00:43:30,866 --> 00:43:33,157 - The place is gruesome... Oh! - Holy shit. 894 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,073 Plumbing, always a challenge 895 00:43:35,157 --> 00:43:36,240 at rock festivals. Again, 896 00:43:36,323 --> 00:43:37,615 this was something that in the '90s, 897 00:43:37,699 --> 00:43:39,699 people did not think there was a better way 898 00:43:39,782 --> 00:43:40,991 to do stuff like this. 899 00:43:41,073 --> 00:43:42,741 People, in the future, 900 00:43:43,699 --> 00:43:45,282 worth their weight in gold. 901 00:43:45,365 --> 00:43:46,866 I'm telling you. 902 00:43:46,949 --> 00:43:49,157 So the place smelled pretty gross 903 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:50,991 by even Friday afternoon. 904 00:43:52,282 --> 00:43:54,657 You know, there's a festival grounds in Germany. 905 00:43:54,741 --> 00:43:56,866 It was literally built by Hitler. 906 00:43:56,949 --> 00:43:58,699 And we've played there a bunch of times, 907 00:43:58,782 --> 00:44:03,365 it's a great venue, lot of fun. The airbase was less hospitable 908 00:44:03,449 --> 00:44:05,741 than the venue built by Nazis. 909 00:44:15,115 --> 00:44:17,198 Hi, we're with an organization called PAX, 910 00:44:17,282 --> 00:44:18,532 what we're doing is we're getting people 911 00:44:18,615 --> 00:44:22,115 to sign these petitions against gun violence. 912 00:44:22,198 --> 00:44:23,574 It's a good thing. It's basically trying 913 00:44:23,657 --> 00:44:25,532 to get people to stop getting guns 914 00:44:25,615 --> 00:44:27,407 in the hands of kids, you know. 915 00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:29,699 We're giving away candles for the... 916 00:44:29,782 --> 00:44:32,282 the light ceremony tomorrow night at eight o'clock. 917 00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:34,323 So here, why don't you just take one as a souvenir 918 00:44:34,407 --> 00:44:35,741 for coming by and seeing us. 919 00:44:35,824 --> 00:44:38,699 And stop by the candle ceremony at eight o'clock tomorrow night 920 00:44:38,782 --> 00:44:40,365 and I'm sure you'll see all the candles 921 00:44:40,449 --> 00:44:42,198 that we've given out. Thanks. 922 00:44:44,741 --> 00:44:46,490 ♪ Bawitdaba, da bang, Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪ 923 00:44:46,574 --> 00:44:48,741 ♪ Said the boogie Said up jump the boogie ♪ 924 00:44:48,824 --> 00:44:51,741 ♪ Bawitdaba, da bang Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪ 925 00:44:51,824 --> 00:44:54,824 ♪ Said the boogie Said up jump the boogie ♪ 926 00:44:54,907 --> 00:44:57,198 I think about Kid Rock coming out 927 00:44:57,282 --> 00:44:59,782 in this luxurious, white fur coat. 928 00:44:59,866 --> 00:45:02,824 If you were looking for an easy metaphor 929 00:45:02,907 --> 00:45:04,699 to explain the haves and the have-nots 930 00:45:04,782 --> 00:45:08,407 at Woodstock '99 and in fact, I think in 1999 in general 931 00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:11,115 to me, like that sums it up perfectly. 932 00:45:11,198 --> 00:45:13,115 It's a very weird thing 933 00:45:13,198 --> 00:45:14,657 that you see at the end of the '90s. 934 00:45:14,741 --> 00:45:16,907 There's just this simmering anger. 935 00:45:16,991 --> 00:45:20,449 And it manifested itself through sludge and angst. 936 00:45:20,532 --> 00:45:27,032 ♪ My name is Kid ♪ 937 00:45:28,532 --> 00:45:29,741 ♪ Is Kid Rock ♪ 938 00:45:29,824 --> 00:45:32,282 ♪ Bawitdaba, da bang Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪ 939 00:45:32,365 --> 00:45:35,323 The DJ on stage became a weird trope 940 00:45:35,407 --> 00:45:37,157 and you never really knew why they were there, 941 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,282 just you would hear a faint 942 00:45:38,365 --> 00:45:39,824 sort of wicky-wicky noise in the background, 943 00:45:39,907 --> 00:45:42,449 and that was enough to sustain a whole band member. 944 00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:46,490 It seemed like the kind of thing that would break down barriers, 945 00:45:46,574 --> 00:45:49,449 you know, hip-hop and rock would be one thing. 946 00:45:49,532 --> 00:45:51,115 But it really didn't. 947 00:45:51,198 --> 00:45:52,866 If you look at the history 948 00:45:52,949 --> 00:45:56,198 of American music, nu metal was just bound to happen. 949 00:45:56,282 --> 00:45:58,949 This is a country whose music was basically forged 950 00:45:59,032 --> 00:46:01,741 in white people impersonating black people. 951 00:46:01,824 --> 00:46:03,866 It makes all the sense in the world 952 00:46:03,949 --> 00:46:07,615 that that would wind up in this sort of swamp 953 00:46:07,699 --> 00:46:11,198 that nu metal basically becomes. 954 00:46:11,282 --> 00:46:13,365 You know, a lot of times when white people 955 00:46:13,449 --> 00:46:16,490 have embraced hip-hop, they've ignored the funk, 956 00:46:16,574 --> 00:46:17,699 they've ignored the R&B. 957 00:46:17,782 --> 00:46:19,866 You know, they've ignored the subtlety 958 00:46:19,949 --> 00:46:22,449 and they've embraced homophobia and misogyny. 959 00:46:22,532 --> 00:46:26,032 ♪ If you don't like Kid Rock You can suck my dick ♪ 960 00:46:26,115 --> 00:46:27,824 The same thing with metal. 961 00:46:27,907 --> 00:46:32,115 There's a lot of wonderful, celebratory, joyful, fun metal, 962 00:46:32,198 --> 00:46:35,949 but somehow nu metal embraced the troglodyte elements. 963 00:46:36,032 --> 00:46:39,115 Now listen close. 964 00:46:39,198 --> 00:46:40,407 You want me to get political? 965 00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:43,240 Well, this is about as deep as Kid Rock thinks. 966 00:46:44,282 --> 00:46:46,323 Monica Lewinsky is a fucking hoe 967 00:46:46,407 --> 00:46:48,615 and Bill Clinton is a goddamn pimp. 968 00:46:52,365 --> 00:46:54,741 And granted this is over 20 years ago 969 00:46:54,824 --> 00:46:59,032 and I'm still so baffled, like, how it went from 970 00:46:59,115 --> 00:47:01,490 the sort of progressive enlightened values 971 00:47:01,574 --> 00:47:04,240 of Kurt Cobain and Michael Stipe 972 00:47:04,323 --> 00:47:07,407 to misogyny and homophobia. 973 00:47:07,490 --> 00:47:13,490 And the rape, frat boy culture that was at Woodstock '99. 974 00:47:14,824 --> 00:47:18,907 What happened in the early '90s with Nirvana 975 00:47:18,991 --> 00:47:24,699 was nothing short of a generational overtaking. 976 00:47:24,782 --> 00:47:26,449 The acts and the artists 977 00:47:26,532 --> 00:47:28,240 that had been dominating the culture 978 00:47:28,323 --> 00:47:31,741 were wiped off the face of the planet by Nevermind. 979 00:47:31,824 --> 00:47:36,073 Boy bands, pop music, hair metal, it was all done. 980 00:47:36,157 --> 00:47:37,991 Nirvana actually gave a voice 981 00:47:38,073 --> 00:47:39,574 to the unrest that was happening, 982 00:47:39,657 --> 00:47:42,741 that the gatekeepers of pop culture were not aware of. 983 00:47:42,824 --> 00:47:45,615 And so, Nirvana just cracked that door open, 984 00:47:45,699 --> 00:47:50,365 and it gave an entire generation this purpose and connection. 985 00:47:51,574 --> 00:47:54,032 You had bands that were talking about 986 00:47:54,115 --> 00:47:57,782 feminism and LGBTQ rights and anti-racism. 987 00:47:57,866 --> 00:48:00,490 And I think a lot of people looked at rock music and hip-hop 988 00:48:00,574 --> 00:48:02,741 as these things that could actually 989 00:48:02,824 --> 00:48:04,574 make a difference in the world. 990 00:48:06,198 --> 00:48:08,699 It was a sudden earthquake 991 00:48:08,782 --> 00:48:10,949 in rock and roll and pop culture 992 00:48:11,032 --> 00:48:14,741 in which the boys and the girls want to level the playing field, 993 00:48:14,824 --> 00:48:18,282 So you have Kurt in a dress, gender bending. 994 00:48:18,365 --> 00:48:19,615 You have Riot grrrl, 995 00:48:19,699 --> 00:48:22,240 you have the second most relevant band 996 00:48:22,323 --> 00:48:24,073 of that decade, The Beastie Boys, 997 00:48:24,157 --> 00:48:27,782 maturing and apologizing for their sexism and misogyny. 998 00:48:27,866 --> 00:48:30,615 Especially in terms of like girls becoming empowered 999 00:48:30,699 --> 00:48:32,866 and becoming sure of themselves, you know. 1000 00:48:32,949 --> 00:48:34,907 If we could help with that, that was kind of cool. 1001 00:48:34,991 --> 00:48:37,907 And on top of that, you have this generation 1002 00:48:37,991 --> 00:48:40,699 of young men who really, 1003 00:48:40,782 --> 00:48:44,157 for the first time, had been raised by moms 1004 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,782 who came of age during the real first wave of feminism, 1005 00:48:47,866 --> 00:48:49,866 or had been raised by single moms, 1006 00:48:49,949 --> 00:48:51,490 and so you sort of felt 1007 00:48:51,574 --> 00:48:54,240 that there was this unprecedented parity 1008 00:48:54,323 --> 00:48:57,699 in this generation between the boys and the girls. 1009 00:49:01,032 --> 00:49:04,198 But that said, grunge was very short lived. 1010 00:49:04,282 --> 00:49:08,365 It became commodified and commercialized so quickly. 1011 00:49:08,449 --> 00:49:11,282 This negative energy just makes me stronger. 1012 00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:14,907 We will not retreat. This band is unstoppable. 1013 00:49:14,991 --> 00:49:17,115 And then in April of 1994, 1014 00:49:17,198 --> 00:49:19,073 you have the death of Kurt Cobain. 1015 00:49:19,157 --> 00:49:23,949 The hope that people had in the early '90s was gone. 1016 00:49:24,032 --> 00:49:28,365 Then like culture went from progressive to aggressive. 1017 00:49:28,449 --> 00:49:32,741 It went from inclusive to violent and misogynistic. 1018 00:49:32,824 --> 00:49:36,157 Honestly, and this might sound overly simplistic and glib, 1019 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,949 but it was money. You know, the major labels 1020 00:49:39,032 --> 00:49:43,198 the alternative rocks stations, MTV, Spin, Rolling Stone 1021 00:49:43,282 --> 00:49:47,198 all of a sudden, they realized they made more money 1022 00:49:47,282 --> 00:49:49,490 because their demographic was expanded. 1023 00:49:50,449 --> 00:49:52,866 Our peak started around '99. 1024 00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:55,198 That's when nu metal came in, too. 1025 00:49:55,282 --> 00:49:59,574 So we were all kinda blowing up at the same exact time. 1026 00:49:59,657 --> 00:50:03,365 But post grunge, you know where Creed was born, 1027 00:50:03,449 --> 00:50:07,073 we really had something to say and we were looking inward, 1028 00:50:07,157 --> 00:50:10,949 really expressing these feelings of frustration, 1029 00:50:11,032 --> 00:50:14,782 that time in our life where the idealistic view 1030 00:50:14,866 --> 00:50:19,032 that we had of the world was crushed and crumbled. 1031 00:50:19,115 --> 00:50:22,073 And then, the nu metal, took it a step further 1032 00:50:22,157 --> 00:50:24,240 with its angst, this aggression. 1033 00:50:24,323 --> 00:50:27,240 It became the mouthpiece of the generation 1034 00:50:27,323 --> 00:50:29,991 along with naivety, bravado, 1035 00:50:30,073 --> 00:50:32,240 talking trash, being rebellious 1036 00:50:32,323 --> 00:50:34,699 and I think that's why it connected. 1037 00:50:34,782 --> 00:50:36,949 There was also that underlying fear 1038 00:50:37,032 --> 00:50:40,949 of the unknown. The angst, and anxiety associated 1039 00:50:41,032 --> 00:50:42,282 with just not knowing 1040 00:50:42,365 --> 00:50:44,157 what was gonna happen at the time 1041 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:45,449 of the new millennia. 1042 00:50:45,532 --> 00:50:49,824 And people needed some way to sort of exhaust that energy 1043 00:50:49,907 --> 00:50:53,907 and I think that genre of music provided the perfect vehicle 1044 00:50:53,991 --> 00:50:56,699 for people to just say, you know, "Fuck it." 1045 00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:58,699 You know these artists, 1046 00:50:58,782 --> 00:51:01,032 they tapped into something very real 1047 00:51:01,115 --> 00:51:04,449 and something that had been sort of pushed down 1048 00:51:04,532 --> 00:51:06,407 in the earlier part of the decade. 1049 00:51:06,490 --> 00:51:09,073 And so I don't necessarily think 1050 00:51:09,157 --> 00:51:12,615 that acts like Korn or Limp Bizkit 1051 00:51:12,699 --> 00:51:14,741 were fomenting something in the culture 1052 00:51:14,824 --> 00:51:17,115 that wasn't already there. 1053 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,657 They hated jocks, loved the internet. 1054 00:51:22,741 --> 00:51:24,782 They were known as the Trench Coat Mafia, 1055 00:51:24,866 --> 00:51:26,657 question is why didn't anyone know 1056 00:51:26,741 --> 00:51:27,824 they turned so violent. 1057 00:51:27,907 --> 00:51:29,699 And they, like, started blowing up 1058 00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:31,782 and shooting everyone in the cafeteria. 1059 00:51:31,866 --> 00:51:33,991 They are a group of disenfranchised kids 1060 00:51:34,073 --> 00:51:35,407 that have threatened revenge 1061 00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:37,449 in the past for kids making fun of them. 1062 00:51:39,574 --> 00:51:41,866 Just three months, before Woodstock '99 1063 00:51:41,949 --> 00:51:45,073 the school shooting at Columbine took place. 1064 00:51:45,157 --> 00:51:48,032 And it's such an extreme act of violence, 1065 00:51:48,115 --> 00:51:50,115 but I think it's an example of people 1066 00:51:50,198 --> 00:51:52,449 who are really struggling to be seen. 1067 00:51:52,532 --> 00:51:54,574 And we continue our reporting on the corrosive effects 1068 00:51:54,657 --> 00:51:57,824 of the popular music world on some American children. 1069 00:51:57,907 --> 00:52:00,365 We now know that one of them also posted 1070 00:52:00,449 --> 00:52:02,157 violent lyrics on the internet. 1071 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,198 I think the blaming of artists, musicians, 1072 00:52:05,282 --> 00:52:07,657 filmmakers. It's all just political maneuvering 1073 00:52:07,741 --> 00:52:11,240 and an easy way to misdirect your eye over here 1074 00:52:11,323 --> 00:52:12,532 when the real problems 1075 00:52:12,615 --> 00:52:16,657 are so much more difficult and really require digging in. 1076 00:52:16,741 --> 00:52:21,615 I think if anyone like Hitler or Mussolini were alive now, 1077 00:52:21,699 --> 00:52:23,282 they'd have to be rock stars. 1078 00:52:31,532 --> 00:52:32,866 Hey, what's up? 1079 00:52:32,949 --> 00:52:34,365 - Are we doing all right? - Yeah. 1080 00:52:34,449 --> 00:52:36,407 - Everything going good still? - Everything's going great man. 1081 00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:38,282 We were just hanging out with Puff up there, man. 1082 00:52:38,365 --> 00:52:40,657 - He's a cool guy. - Yo, D! 1083 00:52:40,741 --> 00:52:42,699 - What's up, how you doing? - What's up, man? 1084 00:52:44,991 --> 00:52:48,240 "Saturday, July 24th, 1999. 1085 00:52:48,323 --> 00:52:49,699 Busy day. 1086 00:52:49,782 --> 00:52:52,490 Just made it back to the tent for some R&R. 1087 00:52:52,574 --> 00:52:55,907 We saw in this order Tragically Hip, 1088 00:52:55,991 --> 00:52:57,365 I know why they do so well, 1089 00:52:57,449 --> 00:52:59,741 they bring Canada to all their shows. 1090 00:52:59,824 --> 00:53:01,907 Kid Rock, I'm getting that album. 1091 00:53:01,991 --> 00:53:04,490 He played every instrument during each song. 1092 00:53:04,574 --> 00:53:05,741 That rocks. 1093 00:53:05,824 --> 00:53:08,991 Wyclef Jean and the Refugee All-Stars. 1094 00:53:09,073 --> 00:53:11,449 I remember saying of someone's mother once, 1095 00:53:11,532 --> 00:53:13,615 something about nothing nice to say? 1096 00:53:14,699 --> 00:53:18,157 Counting Crows, not the same live, but not bad. 1097 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,032 Dave Matthews, nothing needs to be said. 1098 00:53:23,157 --> 00:53:25,907 My shoes got soaked twice. Oh, well. 1099 00:53:25,991 --> 00:53:29,198 Now to build up strength, because I'm going to the pit. 1100 00:53:30,866 --> 00:53:33,866 Hippies beating on drums down the road. 1101 00:53:33,949 --> 00:53:35,282 Fucking hippies." 1102 00:53:40,115 --> 00:53:42,574 So there were these trash can drum circles. 1103 00:53:42,657 --> 00:53:45,407 I had never seen anything like that in my life. 1104 00:53:51,157 --> 00:53:54,615 You would find the most insane looking characters 1105 00:53:54,699 --> 00:53:56,866 just banging on anything they could find. 1106 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,699 All day long for that whole weekend, 1107 00:54:01,782 --> 00:54:04,073 a bunch of people had taken trash cans 1108 00:54:04,157 --> 00:54:05,991 and tipped them over and were banging 1109 00:54:06,073 --> 00:54:07,240 on them incessantly. 1110 00:54:07,323 --> 00:54:09,824 Not really in rhythm just banging, banging, banging. 1111 00:54:09,907 --> 00:54:11,949 And we thought it was kind of funny 1112 00:54:12,699 --> 00:54:13,907 but we also thought like, 1113 00:54:13,991 --> 00:54:16,157 "Well, I wonder who is going to put these trash cans 1114 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,490 back over and put them back where they were." 1115 00:54:18,574 --> 00:54:21,782 Sixty-nine, '94, a poster for '99. 1116 00:54:22,574 --> 00:54:23,699 Anybody else? 1117 00:54:42,741 --> 00:54:44,666 ...up here and you can do this. 1118 00:55:04,073 --> 00:55:08,490 On Saturday, you could see that we, as a group 1119 00:55:08,574 --> 00:55:10,949 kind of abused the place. 1120 00:55:11,032 --> 00:55:15,198 You have so many people, not enough receptacles. 1121 00:55:15,282 --> 00:55:18,532 So, like you would expect, a camping trip, a lot of BO, 1122 00:55:18,615 --> 00:55:21,282 sweat, mud and garbage everywhere. 1123 00:55:21,365 --> 00:55:23,115 Excrement, you know it was not good. 1124 00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:25,532 It was not good. A lot of it, you know. 1125 00:55:25,615 --> 00:55:29,240 Every night I slept on a pile of pizza boxes. 1126 00:55:29,323 --> 00:55:31,157 Pizza boxes were very good surface 1127 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,741 to sleep on cause pizza boxes are white and it's important, because they're white 1128 00:55:34,824 --> 00:55:36,991 you can tell if they've been urinated on or not 1129 00:55:37,073 --> 00:55:39,073 because every flat surface there had been 1130 00:55:39,157 --> 00:55:42,824 so thoroughly urinated on by Friday evening. 1131 00:55:43,991 --> 00:55:45,407 The showers, I wanted no part 1132 00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:47,073 of those things really from day one. 1133 00:55:47,157 --> 00:55:49,741 They basically had just one big communal shower, 1134 00:55:49,824 --> 00:55:51,907 like one for the women, one for the men. 1135 00:55:51,991 --> 00:55:55,866 When we went in there, the water was like shin to knee deep, 1136 00:55:55,949 --> 00:55:58,449 so you're basically just showering in filth. 1137 00:55:58,532 --> 00:56:00,365 Then, the women shower was next to ours, 1138 00:56:00,449 --> 00:56:02,240 also separated by a tarp. 1139 00:56:02,323 --> 00:56:04,365 So, there were like dudes like, 1140 00:56:04,449 --> 00:56:06,198 pulling the tarp back to, like, look at the women 1141 00:56:06,282 --> 00:56:07,824 who were showering next door. 1142 00:56:08,741 --> 00:56:10,365 I did not take a shower there. 1143 00:56:10,449 --> 00:56:13,490 I definitely saw that there were showers 1144 00:56:13,574 --> 00:56:16,782 and was not comfortable with that. 1145 00:56:16,866 --> 00:56:18,866 That did not seem like safe space. 1146 00:56:21,407 --> 00:56:24,407 The site, it reminded you of like a refugee camp 1147 00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:25,866 from the movies. 1148 00:56:27,323 --> 00:56:29,907 That there had been some sort of big battle 1149 00:56:29,991 --> 00:56:31,782 and there was just trash all over, 1150 00:56:31,866 --> 00:56:34,115 so you just saw that break down 1151 00:56:34,198 --> 00:56:37,449 of both the structure and civility. 1152 00:56:38,532 --> 00:56:40,449 Also, it was just interesting 1153 00:56:40,532 --> 00:56:43,282 because the security at Woodstock '99 1154 00:56:43,365 --> 00:56:45,323 was a little bit of a different beast. 1155 00:56:45,407 --> 00:56:47,240 You could just tell, 1156 00:56:47,323 --> 00:56:49,574 just from the interactions with them 1157 00:56:49,657 --> 00:56:53,532 that they just didn't act like usual security guards. 1158 00:56:53,615 --> 00:56:54,866 How was your fucking job? 1159 00:56:54,949 --> 00:56:57,157 - Awesome time, man. - Was it nice? Did you get pussy? 1160 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,699 Did you use that pass right there to get some pussy? 1161 00:56:59,782 --> 00:57:01,032 - Yes, I did. - Did you? 1162 00:57:01,115 --> 00:57:03,323 - Yes I did. - I hate you. I'm jealous. 1163 00:57:03,407 --> 00:57:05,824 The vast majority of them were just doing whatever it was 1164 00:57:05,907 --> 00:57:06,949 that they wanted. 1165 00:57:07,032 --> 00:57:09,407 Security didn't really work with anyone else. 1166 00:57:22,741 --> 00:57:28,490 ♪ An old man turned 98 ♪ 1167 00:57:28,574 --> 00:57:34,532 ♪ He won the lottery And died the next day ♪ 1168 00:57:34,615 --> 00:57:37,866 ♪ It's a ♪ - ♪ black fly ♪ 1169 00:57:37,949 --> 00:57:40,490 ♪ In your ♪ - ♪ Chardonnay ♪ 1170 00:57:40,574 --> 00:57:43,490 ♪ It's a death row pardon ♪ 1171 00:57:43,574 --> 00:57:46,032 ♪ Two minutes too late ♪ 1172 00:57:46,115 --> 00:57:51,615 ♪ And isn't it ironic Don't you think? ♪ 1173 00:57:51,699 --> 00:57:57,574 ♪ It's like rain On your wedding day ♪ 1174 00:57:57,657 --> 00:58:00,699 ♪ It's a free ride ♪ 1175 00:58:00,782 --> 00:58:02,782 ♪ When you've already paid ♪ 1176 00:58:02,866 --> 00:58:04,699 Woodstock '99 definitely felt like 1177 00:58:04,782 --> 00:58:07,574 it lacked a cohesive feeling. 1178 00:58:07,657 --> 00:58:11,073 Was it because, in all honesty, the Gen Xers and next generation 1179 00:58:11,157 --> 00:58:13,449 really weren't fighting anything. 1180 00:58:13,532 --> 00:58:16,824 But we wanted to be angsty and we wanted to be deep. 1181 00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:18,574 I think the only thing we were really fighting 1182 00:58:18,657 --> 00:58:20,782 is we didn't feel like we had a purpose. 1183 00:58:20,866 --> 00:58:23,741 You know, difficult times galvanize you. 1184 00:58:23,824 --> 00:58:26,323 It galvanizes you around a cause. 1185 00:58:27,365 --> 00:58:29,741 But the '99 Woodstock just seemed like 1186 00:58:29,824 --> 00:58:32,824 it was trying to relive a nostalgic moment 1187 00:58:32,907 --> 00:58:35,615 along with commercialism and kind of capitalizing 1188 00:58:35,699 --> 00:58:37,907 and trying to maximize profits, but not having 1189 00:58:37,991 --> 00:58:40,866 a real soulful purpose for the show. 1190 00:58:40,949 --> 00:58:46,115 ♪ It's like rain On your wedding day ♪ 1191 00:58:46,198 --> 00:58:48,240 Somebody made a decision about this lineup, 1192 00:58:48,323 --> 00:58:50,407 like, we're gonna have a bunch of metal bands here, 1193 00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:52,907 and we're also gonna have, you know, Jewel and Cheryl Crow. 1194 00:58:52,991 --> 00:58:56,574 ♪ Advice That you just didn't take ♪ 1195 00:58:56,657 --> 00:58:57,949 I have no idea what went 1196 00:58:58,032 --> 00:59:01,115 into the thought processes of the promoters 1197 00:59:01,198 --> 00:59:04,657 in booking only three female acts. 1198 00:59:04,741 --> 00:59:08,365 I didn't think in any way in terms of male-female. 1199 00:59:08,449 --> 00:59:11,615 You either had to be a rock band or you had to have the charisma 1200 00:59:11,699 --> 00:59:12,866 to be able to pull it off. 1201 00:59:12,949 --> 00:59:15,907 We didn't say there has to be X number of female acts. 1202 00:59:15,991 --> 00:59:19,198 We booked who we thought belonged on it. 1203 00:59:19,282 --> 00:59:21,032 It seems like it was a deliberate choice 1204 00:59:21,115 --> 00:59:23,991 because each woman is on a different day of the festival. 1205 00:59:24,073 --> 00:59:29,365 It was like there was a quota for estrogen at Woodstock '99. 1206 00:59:29,449 --> 00:59:32,365 Saturday, I remember watching Alanis Morissette 1207 00:59:32,449 --> 00:59:35,282 and feeling aggravation from the audience, 1208 00:59:35,365 --> 00:59:37,490 literal angst bubbling up in the crowd. 1209 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,157 And then I saw what was on the bill 1210 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,323 for the rest of the night, which was in a row, 1211 00:59:41,407 --> 00:59:42,866 Limp Bizkit, Rage Against the Machine, 1212 00:59:42,949 --> 00:59:45,741 Metallica. That is a lot of aggression. 1213 00:59:45,824 --> 00:59:50,866 ♪ And isn't it ironic Don't you think? ♪ 1214 00:59:50,949 --> 00:59:56,907 ♪ A little too ironic And, yeah, I really do think ♪ 1215 00:59:59,824 --> 01:00:02,574 - Thank you very much everyone. - I love you. 1216 01:00:02,657 --> 01:00:06,157 So much. Have a great night. 1217 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,907 Bless you each. 1218 01:00:11,449 --> 01:00:12,699 How you doing? 1219 01:00:12,782 --> 01:00:15,490 - Good. How's it going? - Woodstock, baby. 1220 01:00:15,574 --> 01:00:17,032 - We're here. - You see Limp Bizkit? 1221 01:00:17,115 --> 01:00:18,991 I'm gonna go see him later today? 1222 01:00:19,073 --> 01:00:21,824 There was a lot of buzz around Limp Bizkit. 1223 01:00:21,907 --> 01:00:26,490 It was probably the apex of their career and I loved it. 1224 01:00:26,574 --> 01:00:28,824 I kinda looked like Fred Durst, 1225 01:00:28,907 --> 01:00:30,949 and I was just ready to be a part of it 1226 01:00:31,032 --> 01:00:32,991 and I couldn't wait for their show. 1227 01:00:33,073 --> 01:00:34,323 We're here on MTV. 1228 01:00:34,407 --> 01:00:36,449 And we're ready for you, Woodstock. 1229 01:00:36,532 --> 01:00:38,198 I'm here to see Limp Bizkit. 1230 01:00:38,282 --> 01:00:41,365 The morning before their show, I was on MTV 1231 01:00:41,449 --> 01:00:43,782 rapping Limp Bizkit lyrics with a crowd behind me. 1232 01:00:43,866 --> 01:00:46,866 And I just started saying, "I did it all for the 'Nookie.'" 1233 01:00:46,949 --> 01:00:48,198 "Come on. The nookie. 1234 01:00:48,282 --> 01:00:50,407 Come on, so you can take the cookie and stick it up your..." 1235 01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:51,615 - Ass! - Stick it up your 1236 01:00:51,699 --> 01:00:53,490 - Your Ass. - Stick it up your... 1237 01:00:53,574 --> 01:00:55,782 People are screaming, "Stick it up your ass," 1238 01:00:55,866 --> 01:00:58,657 "Stick it up your ass, Stick it up your ass." 1239 01:00:58,741 --> 01:01:00,574 This is Fred from Limp Bizkit. 1240 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,198 Let's find out who we are 1241 01:01:02,282 --> 01:01:05,407 on Ultra Sound this Sunday at 10:00. Punk. 1242 01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:07,991 Limp Bizkit, huge MTV artist at the time. 1243 01:01:08,073 --> 01:01:10,323 "Nookie." A smash. 1244 01:01:11,365 --> 01:01:12,907 You know any time we would put them on 1245 01:01:12,991 --> 01:01:15,824 or have them as guests or whatever it would rate really well. 1246 01:01:15,907 --> 01:01:17,240 Right now, we've got another performance 1247 01:01:17,323 --> 01:01:19,407 from Limp Bizkit who has an amazing album coming out on... 1248 01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:21,407 It was a mutually beneficial relationship between the two. 1249 01:01:21,490 --> 01:01:24,574 Yeah, like MTV and Limp Bizkit were just, like, synonymous 1250 01:01:24,657 --> 01:01:26,157 it seemed in 1999. 1251 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,407 And that's one of the greatest ascensions 1252 01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:33,073 of a band of that caliber that I've seen in a long time. 1253 01:01:33,157 --> 01:01:35,365 You want the worst? 1254 01:01:36,782 --> 01:01:38,532 Well, you got the worst. 1255 01:01:39,490 --> 01:01:42,032 The one, the only... 1256 01:01:43,741 --> 01:01:46,657 Limp Bizkit. 1257 01:01:48,532 --> 01:01:51,615 Before they took the stage I looked around, 1258 01:01:51,699 --> 01:01:55,323 and I had never seen that many people before. 1259 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,824 In the moment, it felt like, "Man, 1260 01:01:58,907 --> 01:02:00,907 we're seeing something special here." 1261 01:02:00,991 --> 01:02:04,073 And the crowds were fucking bananas for them. 1262 01:02:04,157 --> 01:02:07,282 By day two, people were like a little bit drunker, 1263 01:02:07,365 --> 01:02:10,532 a little bit hotter, a little bit angrier. 1264 01:02:10,615 --> 01:02:12,699 And then Limp Bizkit's bass player came out 1265 01:02:12,782 --> 01:02:15,782 and he was just giving everybody the double middle finger. 1266 01:02:15,866 --> 01:02:20,282 Now, that was kind of the vibe that Limp Bizkit started with, 1267 01:02:20,365 --> 01:02:21,907 and then Fred Durst stepped in. 1268 01:02:23,365 --> 01:02:25,532 This is 1999, motherfucker. 1269 01:02:27,574 --> 01:02:29,032 Take your Birkenstocks 1270 01:02:29,115 --> 01:02:30,782 and stick 'em up your fucking ass. 1271 01:02:33,741 --> 01:02:34,949 People were just pumped up. 1272 01:02:35,032 --> 01:02:38,866 They had a lot of energy, lot of like college dudes. 1273 01:02:39,782 --> 01:02:40,741 College white dudes, 1274 01:02:40,824 --> 01:02:42,157 it looked like that was the crowd, 1275 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,699 just like angry white, fraternity college dudes. 1276 01:02:45,782 --> 01:02:48,615 And that was when I realized I was the kind 1277 01:02:48,699 --> 01:02:52,073 of the perfect demographic for Woodstock to market to. 1278 01:02:52,157 --> 01:02:55,157 I was like the exact person that they wanted to go. 1279 01:02:57,907 --> 01:02:59,157 The typical festival 1280 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,991 has many different cliques. They tend to go 1281 01:03:02,073 --> 01:03:05,323 for different genres and different fan bases 1282 01:03:05,407 --> 01:03:08,782 and whatever. This seemed to aim directly 1283 01:03:08,866 --> 01:03:14,115 at the most furious 24-year-olds in your life. 1284 01:03:14,198 --> 01:03:16,157 - Kid Rock, you going to see Kid Rock? - Nah, bro. 1285 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,157 I'm going to check out fucking Limp Bizkit, 1286 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,115 Rage, Metallica, bro. 1287 01:03:21,198 --> 01:03:25,532 When you have a crowd who are excited, inebriated, 1288 01:03:25,615 --> 01:03:28,032 hot, and now you give 'em a band 1289 01:03:28,115 --> 01:03:31,282 that helped them release that energy, 1290 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,699 what do you think is gonna happen? 1291 01:03:34,949 --> 01:03:37,282 Hey, let me ask you a personal question. 1292 01:03:37,365 --> 01:03:40,282 How many people here ever woke up one morning 1293 01:03:40,365 --> 01:03:43,240 and just decided, it wasn't one of those days 1294 01:03:43,323 --> 01:03:45,032 and you're gonna break some shit? 1295 01:03:49,407 --> 01:03:51,490 Well, this is one of them days y'all... 1296 01:03:53,449 --> 01:03:55,866 where everything's fucked up, 1297 01:03:55,949 --> 01:03:58,032 and you just wanna break some shit. 1298 01:03:59,615 --> 01:04:00,657 You feel me? 1299 01:04:00,741 --> 01:04:03,198 Let's feel it. 1300 01:04:04,657 --> 01:04:05,991 ♪ Its just one of those days ♪ 1301 01:04:06,073 --> 01:04:07,657 ♪ Where you don't want To wake up ♪ 1302 01:04:07,741 --> 01:04:09,949 ♪ Everything is fucked Everybody sucks ♪ 1303 01:04:10,032 --> 01:04:12,741 ♪ You don't really know why But you want to justify ♪ 1304 01:04:12,824 --> 01:04:14,032 ♪ Rippin' someone's head off ♪ 1305 01:04:14,115 --> 01:04:16,741 ♪ No human contact And if you interact ♪ 1306 01:04:16,824 --> 01:04:17,991 ♪ Your life is on contract ♪ 1307 01:04:18,073 --> 01:04:20,907 ♪ Your best bet Is to stay away motherfucker ♪ 1308 01:04:20,991 --> 01:04:22,407 ♪ It's just one of those days ♪ 1309 01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:24,073 ♪ It's all about the he-says, She-says... ♪ 1310 01:04:24,157 --> 01:04:26,949 They had the crowd going insane, but by that time 1311 01:04:27,032 --> 01:04:28,907 people were walking around in shit and piss 1312 01:04:28,991 --> 01:04:31,615 because all of the fucking porta potties overflowed. 1313 01:04:31,699 --> 01:04:33,782 They were dehydrated, passing out. 1314 01:04:33,866 --> 01:04:35,907 It was too many people for what the facilities 1315 01:04:35,991 --> 01:04:39,574 they had, and then, it just went from there. 1316 01:04:39,657 --> 01:04:42,907 ♪ It's all about the he-says, She-says bullshit ♪ 1317 01:04:44,323 --> 01:04:45,490 ♪ I think you better quit... ♪ 1318 01:04:45,574 --> 01:04:48,157 And I know that he had an image to maintain 1319 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,949 and they wanna do, like, put on a proper Limp Bizkit show. 1320 01:04:51,032 --> 01:04:56,407 But, you know, like even a liquor commercial says, 1321 01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:58,866 "Please Drink Responsibly." 1322 01:05:01,282 --> 01:05:03,532 Time to reach deep down inside... 1323 01:05:05,073 --> 01:05:07,574 and take all that negative energy... 1324 01:05:10,073 --> 01:05:11,824 all that negative energy. 1325 01:05:13,949 --> 01:05:16,407 And let that shit out of your fucking system. 1326 01:05:18,115 --> 01:05:21,782 You got girl problems, you got boy problems, 1327 01:05:21,866 --> 01:05:25,615 you got parent problems, you got boss problems, 1328 01:05:25,699 --> 01:05:29,323 you got job problems, you got a problem with me, 1329 01:05:29,407 --> 01:05:31,240 you got a problem with yourself, 1330 01:05:31,323 --> 01:05:33,866 it's time to take all that negative energy 1331 01:05:33,949 --> 01:05:35,741 and put it the fuck out. 1332 01:05:37,741 --> 01:05:40,365 You feel me, Woodstock? 1333 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,949 All right, let's bring it out. 1334 01:05:44,407 --> 01:05:46,449 When this song kicks in, 1335 01:05:46,532 --> 01:05:48,365 I want you to fucking kick in. 1336 01:05:50,032 --> 01:05:51,115 You got it? 1337 01:05:54,866 --> 01:05:57,115 ♪ I feel like shit ♪ 1338 01:05:57,198 --> 01:06:00,157 ♪ My suggestion Is to keep your distance ♪ 1339 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,365 ♪ Cause right now I'm dangerous ♪ 1340 01:06:02,449 --> 01:06:06,407 ♪ We've all felt like shit And been treated like shit ♪ 1341 01:06:06,490 --> 01:06:09,866 ♪ All of those motherfuckers Who want to step up ♪ 1342 01:06:09,949 --> 01:06:12,615 ♪ I hope you know I pack a chainsaw ♪ 1343 01:06:12,699 --> 01:06:14,657 ♪ I'll skin your ass raw ♪ 1344 01:06:14,741 --> 01:06:16,657 ♪ And if my day keeps going This way ♪ 1345 01:06:16,741 --> 01:06:18,866 ♪ I just might break Something tonight ♪ 1346 01:06:18,949 --> 01:06:23,115 ♪ I pack a chainsaw I'll skin your ass raw ♪ 1347 01:06:23,198 --> 01:06:24,991 ♪ And if my day keeps going This way ♪ 1348 01:06:25,073 --> 01:06:28,365 ♪ I just might break Your fuckin' face tonight ♪ 1349 01:06:28,449 --> 01:06:30,282 ♪ Give me something ♪ 1350 01:06:32,949 --> 01:06:34,615 ♪ Give me something ♪ 1351 01:06:37,657 --> 01:06:39,365 ♪ Give me something to break ♪ 1352 01:06:41,991 --> 01:06:44,157 ♪ How bout yer fucking face ♪ 1353 01:06:45,574 --> 01:06:47,407 ♪ I hope you know I pack a chainsaw ♪ 1354 01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:49,615 - ♪ What! ♪ - ♪ A chainsaw ♪ 1355 01:06:49,699 --> 01:06:52,240 - ♪ What! ♪ - ♪ A motherfucking chainsaw ♪ 1356 01:06:52,323 --> 01:06:53,991 ♪ What! ♪ 1357 01:06:54,657 --> 01:06:55,949 ♪ So come and get it ♪ 1358 01:07:00,198 --> 01:07:01,407 That's some tight shit right there, 1359 01:07:01,490 --> 01:07:03,490 the crowd surfing on the plywood. 1360 01:07:04,991 --> 01:07:07,699 Fred Durst was a moron. 1361 01:07:07,782 --> 01:07:10,699 He was completely defiant in between songs. 1362 01:07:10,782 --> 01:07:11,949 We went up to him, 1363 01:07:12,032 --> 01:07:14,824 you know, and said, "Hey, calm things down" you know. 1364 01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:16,907 He was out of his mind. 1365 01:07:17,032 --> 01:07:19,032 He was completely out of his mind. 1366 01:07:20,365 --> 01:07:22,866 Fuck, we're Limp Bizkit. 1367 01:07:24,949 --> 01:07:27,991 That's right. Fuck you, too. 1368 01:07:30,532 --> 01:07:32,198 People tried to blame Fred Durst. 1369 01:07:32,282 --> 01:07:33,615 I don't think you can blame Fred Durst. 1370 01:07:33,699 --> 01:07:35,532 Fred Durst was being Fred Durst. 1371 01:07:35,615 --> 01:07:37,365 He was doing what people wanted him to do. 1372 01:07:42,449 --> 01:07:44,907 A normal Limp Bizkit show, he doesn't jump 1373 01:07:44,991 --> 01:07:48,282 into the audience on a piece of plywood, get passed around 1374 01:07:48,365 --> 01:07:50,490 and keep screaming "Break things, break things, 1375 01:07:50,574 --> 01:07:52,449 break things." 1376 01:07:52,532 --> 01:07:56,115 He caused a lot of trouble. It's a miracle nobody got hurt 1377 01:07:56,198 --> 01:07:59,574 because we still had another day. 1378 01:07:59,657 --> 01:08:01,323 How scary was it for you up there 1379 01:08:01,407 --> 01:08:02,699 when they started ripping that place apart, 1380 01:08:02,782 --> 01:08:04,365 when they started taking the plywood off the towers 1381 01:08:04,449 --> 01:08:05,949 - and stuff? - Oh, my God. 1382 01:08:06,032 --> 01:08:07,282 Dude, it's not our fault. 1383 01:08:08,741 --> 01:08:10,615 It gets me pissed off, you see I'm swelling up 1384 01:08:10,699 --> 01:08:13,991 right now. It makes me mad because they blame us. 1385 01:08:14,073 --> 01:08:15,323 Rock music has always been the escape, 1386 01:08:15,407 --> 01:08:17,323 I mean, "Hey, I feel a connection with this person 1387 01:08:17,407 --> 01:08:19,157 'cause he's going through what I went through, 1388 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,240 and if he got through it, I can get through it." 1389 01:08:22,574 --> 01:08:25,532 To blame the artists, I think it's too easy. 1390 01:08:25,615 --> 01:08:27,991 We never ask the deeper, existential question, 1391 01:08:28,073 --> 01:08:30,657 "Why are so many young men in America, 1392 01:08:30,741 --> 01:08:32,407 why are they so angry?" 1393 01:08:33,699 --> 01:08:36,115 It's very convenient to say that, 1394 01:08:36,198 --> 01:08:38,407 "This aggressive rock band. It's their fault." 1395 01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:41,699 But I think that if you look at what was going on in the culture 1396 01:08:41,782 --> 01:08:44,741 and the rot that was setting in, in a lot of places, 1397 01:08:45,407 --> 01:08:46,657 it's bigger than nu metal. 1398 01:08:46,741 --> 01:08:48,323 And it's certainly bigger than Limp Bizkit. 1399 01:08:55,449 --> 01:08:57,532 I think when we look back on 1999, 1400 01:08:57,615 --> 01:09:00,699 it was a very top-down world and I think in general, 1401 01:09:00,782 --> 01:09:03,657 the 20th century was a very top-down era. 1402 01:09:09,323 --> 01:09:11,240 ♪ Killing in the name of ♪ 1403 01:09:11,323 --> 01:09:13,365 It was very easy for the government 1404 01:09:13,449 --> 01:09:15,949 or corporations or whoever was in power 1405 01:09:16,032 --> 01:09:18,657 to dictate the way that the world was going to be. 1406 01:09:18,741 --> 01:09:19,949 And there really was nothing 1407 01:09:20,032 --> 01:09:22,615 that the average person could do to stop it. 1408 01:09:22,699 --> 01:09:25,407 ♪ Some of those That work forces ♪ 1409 01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:28,282 ♪ Are the same That burn crosses ♪ 1410 01:09:28,365 --> 01:09:31,198 One of the most offensive things 1411 01:09:31,282 --> 01:09:34,032 about Woodstock '99 was that these guys 1412 01:09:34,115 --> 01:09:36,407 who were relics of the '60s felt that this was something 1413 01:09:36,490 --> 01:09:39,741 that Gen X needed, that we somehow needed 1414 01:09:39,824 --> 01:09:43,198 our own experience of what they had. 1415 01:09:43,282 --> 01:09:44,657 ♪ Burn crosses ♪ 1416 01:09:49,282 --> 01:09:50,782 ♪ Killing in the name of ♪ 1417 01:09:50,866 --> 01:09:52,866 The idea of older generations 1418 01:09:52,949 --> 01:09:56,198 subjecting younger generations to the way they wish things 1419 01:09:56,282 --> 01:09:58,532 would be, is such an American thing. 1420 01:09:58,615 --> 01:10:00,782 And accepting that your moment 1421 01:10:00,866 --> 01:10:03,866 has passed is really hard for people to fathom. 1422 01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:06,782 And you know a lot of what doesn't get done in this country 1423 01:10:06,866 --> 01:10:09,198 doesn't get done because older people 1424 01:10:09,282 --> 01:10:10,323 are scared of younger people. 1425 01:10:10,407 --> 01:10:12,282 ♪ Now you do What they told you ♪ 1426 01:10:12,365 --> 01:10:14,866 No one was asking for another Woodstock. 1427 01:10:14,949 --> 01:10:17,115 There was no desire for it. 1428 01:10:17,198 --> 01:10:19,741 To me it's the narcissism and the self-regard 1429 01:10:19,824 --> 01:10:24,282 of the baby boomer generation which continues to hang on 1430 01:10:24,365 --> 01:10:26,907 to power in every way in America. 1431 01:10:26,991 --> 01:10:29,282 It's political, it's economic, it's cultural. 1432 01:10:29,365 --> 01:10:31,240 Like the reins have not been turned over. 1433 01:10:31,323 --> 01:10:34,574 They will not be turned over until they're all probably gone. 1434 01:10:37,532 --> 01:10:39,866 ♪ Fuck you, I won't do What you tell me ♪ 1435 01:10:39,949 --> 01:10:42,282 ♪ Fuck you, I won't do What you tell me ♪ 1436 01:10:42,365 --> 01:10:45,198 In 1999, you're starting to see instances 1437 01:10:45,282 --> 01:10:48,323 where power dynamics were changing in the country. 1438 01:10:48,407 --> 01:10:51,449 And technology was gonna make it impossible 1439 01:10:51,532 --> 01:10:54,365 for the world to continue to be that way in the new century. 1440 01:11:02,115 --> 01:11:04,032 ♪ -Welcome to Hastings. 1441 01:11:04,115 --> 01:11:06,032 Most of us head out to a music store 1442 01:11:06,115 --> 01:11:08,323 to buy CDs, but not Mike Chestworth. 1443 01:11:08,407 --> 01:11:11,574 He goes to napster.com to get all the music he wants 1444 01:11:11,657 --> 01:11:14,115 and he doesn't pay for it. 1445 01:11:14,198 --> 01:11:17,407 For years you had people who were being forced to spend 1446 01:11:17,490 --> 01:11:20,574 18 dollars on a CD when they only wanted one song. 1447 01:11:20,657 --> 01:11:22,991 And there was really no recourse for those people. 1448 01:11:23,073 --> 01:11:27,032 So, when there was finally a means to circumvent 1449 01:11:27,115 --> 01:11:29,323 the record companies in the form of Napster. 1450 01:11:29,407 --> 01:11:31,741 I think people knew that they were stealing music 1451 01:11:31,824 --> 01:11:33,282 but they didn't care. 1452 01:11:33,365 --> 01:11:34,991 Part of what we're trying to do here is make 1453 01:11:35,073 --> 01:11:38,866 people understand that what they're doing is illegal. 1454 01:11:38,949 --> 01:11:41,115 I'm not even gonna get into the moral issue. 1455 01:11:42,866 --> 01:11:45,323 When Napster came along in '99 1456 01:11:45,407 --> 01:11:48,907 and it looked like it was gonna profoundly shift the way 1457 01:11:48,991 --> 01:11:51,824 that music was produced and sold and consumed, 1458 01:11:51,907 --> 01:11:55,073 and what it meant for artists and their revenue streams, 1459 01:11:55,157 --> 01:11:58,824 Lars Ulrich had the very unpopular opinion 1460 01:11:58,907 --> 01:12:00,615 that this was not good. 1461 01:12:00,699 --> 01:12:02,782 It sort of seemed like a cranky old man voice, 1462 01:12:02,866 --> 01:12:04,741 like you can't get in the way of technology. 1463 01:12:04,824 --> 01:12:06,782 In all due respect to Lars and Metallica, 1464 01:12:06,866 --> 01:12:10,449 I look at Napster as power going back to the people. 1465 01:12:10,532 --> 01:12:12,657 For me I... see I remember back 1466 01:12:12,741 --> 01:12:15,198 when I was in Metallica that we used to trade tapes. 1467 01:12:15,282 --> 01:12:17,240 That's how we even discovered bands. 1468 01:12:17,323 --> 01:12:20,782 I don't know, I can't blame Lars for doing the things 1469 01:12:20,866 --> 01:12:21,991 that he does. 1470 01:12:22,866 --> 01:12:26,198 He... who knows why a guy does that? 1471 01:12:26,282 --> 01:12:28,240 I mean does he have enough money? 1472 01:12:28,323 --> 01:12:29,657 Probably, right? 1473 01:12:30,991 --> 01:12:32,907 I mean I can't... my brain's going 1474 01:12:32,991 --> 01:12:34,407 "Don't say it, Dave, don't say it, Dave, 1475 01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:35,741 don't say it, Dave." 1476 01:12:35,824 --> 01:12:38,741 And you're going, "Say it, Dave, say it, Dave, say it, Dave." 1477 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,365 We are Metallica. 1478 01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:51,490 And this is what we do best, motherfucker! 1479 01:13:05,198 --> 01:13:06,782 That second night when Dave and I went 1480 01:13:06,866 --> 01:13:09,115 to see Metallica. He was so excited, 1481 01:13:09,198 --> 01:13:10,615 and there was just that very much, like... 1482 01:13:10,699 --> 01:13:12,907 "This is it, this is the goal, 1483 01:13:12,991 --> 01:13:15,991 this is why I'm here. I'm gonna get in the mosh pit. 1484 01:13:16,073 --> 01:13:17,365 This is my Everest." 1485 01:13:19,949 --> 01:13:22,282 I had never been in a mosh pit before. 1486 01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:25,407 I was a little uncomfortable. And people are crowd surfing, 1487 01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:27,657 and you're kinda like getting kicked in the head 1488 01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:29,198 and whatever, but it's cool. 1489 01:13:32,407 --> 01:13:34,490 It was so intense and people just doing 1490 01:13:34,574 --> 01:13:36,532 their thing in the mosh pit like throwing people around. 1491 01:13:36,615 --> 01:13:39,157 And you'd feel like you could just get trampled 1492 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,699 and nobody would care about you. 1493 01:13:43,949 --> 01:13:47,782 It was a weird mass of humanity where it was just a sea 1494 01:13:47,866 --> 01:13:51,115 and you just kind of undulated in all four directions. 1495 01:13:52,532 --> 01:13:54,198 It's so tightly packed together 1496 01:13:54,282 --> 01:13:55,741 and it's so claustrophobic. 1497 01:13:55,824 --> 01:13:57,615 You literally cannot control your own body. 1498 01:13:57,699 --> 01:14:00,741 You'd feel your feet getting lifted up off the ground 1499 01:14:00,824 --> 01:14:04,240 and you move with the crowd because the organism 1500 01:14:04,323 --> 01:14:07,907 becomes stronger than any individual person. 1501 01:14:10,407 --> 01:14:12,073 I just get to a point where I'm like, 1502 01:14:12,157 --> 01:14:13,866 "This isn't for me," and I feel bad 1503 01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:15,449 because Dave's been cool, you know, 1504 01:14:15,532 --> 01:14:19,657 but he recognizes even, like, this isn't my scene, 1505 01:14:19,741 --> 01:14:21,991 you know, so, he's like, "You can go if you want." 1506 01:14:22,073 --> 01:14:23,824 I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna try to go that way, 1507 01:14:23,907 --> 01:14:25,282 I'm gonna try to go back." 1508 01:14:26,991 --> 01:14:28,866 I don't know how many people I walked through, 1509 01:14:28,949 --> 01:14:30,365 I don't know how many football fields 1510 01:14:30,449 --> 01:14:33,949 I walked through, but I got out of there. 1511 01:14:34,032 --> 01:14:37,115 I'm usually the last person at things that I go to. 1512 01:14:37,198 --> 01:14:40,157 But by Saturday night I couldn't take it. 1513 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,449 And I knew that Sunday 1514 01:14:41,532 --> 01:14:43,657 was going to be even more brutal. 1515 01:14:46,115 --> 01:14:49,157 After Metallica, they had DJs every night 1516 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,365 and I've never really been to a rave 1517 01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:53,032 or I wasn't really into DJs, 1518 01:14:53,115 --> 01:14:55,240 but I thought, "Hey, we're here. Like, let's check it out." 1519 01:15:02,532 --> 01:15:07,574 I felt the rave hangar was very cynical, very soulless. 1520 01:15:07,657 --> 01:15:11,782 "Let's shove in some DJs, and some drugs, and some kids, 1521 01:15:11,866 --> 01:15:13,991 and we'll just keep this going all night." 1522 01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:17,574 We were excited, this is one of the biggest show 1523 01:15:17,657 --> 01:15:20,157 I'd ever played, you know, it was Woodstock. 1524 01:15:21,073 --> 01:15:22,574 And the rave tent was supposed 1525 01:15:22,657 --> 01:15:25,282 to be sort of like an idyllic separate area 1526 01:15:25,365 --> 01:15:27,449 from Woodstock, but it still had been infected 1527 01:15:27,532 --> 01:15:32,615 by that like, broken, dusty, sad, angry vibe. 1528 01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:38,282 It made no sense to me, whatsoever. 1529 01:15:38,365 --> 01:15:43,323 There's no crossover, there's no world in which a kid 1530 01:15:43,407 --> 01:15:45,615 who is there for Limp Bizkit 1531 01:15:45,699 --> 01:15:49,699 is also, like, looking to go do ecstasy in the rave tent 1532 01:15:49,782 --> 01:15:52,449 and like bliss out to Moby, it's just not happening. 1533 01:15:55,198 --> 01:15:56,657 We walked offstage and we were like, 1534 01:15:56,741 --> 01:15:58,949 "Get out of here, like, we need to leave right now." 1535 01:15:59,032 --> 01:16:01,615 Our plan had been to park up and stay for the whole weekend, 1536 01:16:01,699 --> 01:16:04,615 but that, like, atavistic part of our brains 1537 01:16:04,699 --> 01:16:07,657 collectively said, "Leave now." 1538 01:16:07,741 --> 01:16:10,157 It's bad and it's not getting better. 1539 01:16:11,365 --> 01:16:14,449 To have music going, acts going, 1540 01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:16,073 like churning through the day 1541 01:16:16,157 --> 01:16:18,615 into night 'til 5:00 a.m. and there's no rest, 1542 01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:20,115 there's no breaks, there's no rhythm, 1543 01:16:20,198 --> 01:16:22,407 there's no come down, 1544 01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:24,282 what are you expecting to happen? 1545 01:16:24,365 --> 01:16:27,991 Everybody's going like this, and they can't sustain it. 1546 01:16:28,073 --> 01:16:32,991 It's gonna crash. It's gonna crash in a very big, 1547 01:16:33,073 --> 01:16:35,574 cinematic, cataclysmic way. 1548 01:16:48,574 --> 01:16:50,949 The last morning, I remember 1549 01:16:51,032 --> 01:16:52,657 for a sleeping arrangement it was... 1550 01:16:52,741 --> 01:16:56,115 I fell asleep on the wood chips. 1551 01:16:56,198 --> 01:16:58,741 What woke me up basically was someone yelling out, 1552 01:16:58,824 --> 01:17:02,741 "Tear down the wall! Tear down the wall!" 1553 01:17:02,824 --> 01:17:05,407 And I was like, "Holy shit, Pink Floyd is here?" 1554 01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:07,615 And I was like, "This is what I'm talking about, man!" 1555 01:17:07,699 --> 01:17:09,032 I was like, "This is what the Woodstock 1556 01:17:09,115 --> 01:17:10,532 I wanted it to be." Like, they're gonna 1557 01:17:10,615 --> 01:17:13,032 have someone unexpected like that to pop out. 1558 01:17:13,115 --> 01:17:17,866 And I ran and it was just people basically pushing the wall down. 1559 01:17:25,782 --> 01:17:27,365 By Sunday, a lot of people 1560 01:17:27,449 --> 01:17:30,073 that were security, that were peace patrol quit. 1561 01:17:30,157 --> 01:17:32,657 And essentially I could have worked 24 hours 1562 01:17:32,741 --> 01:17:35,115 a day for all three days if I wanted to. 1563 01:17:35,198 --> 01:17:37,407 We found that... basically 1564 01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:39,866 the very first day, a lot of the peace patrol 1565 01:17:39,949 --> 01:17:41,532 got their credential and they got their shirt, 1566 01:17:41,615 --> 01:17:42,949 and then they just put their credential 1567 01:17:43,073 --> 01:17:45,449 in their pocket, and just waded off into the crowd. 1568 01:17:45,532 --> 01:17:49,907 And them attendees were left to their own devices. 1569 01:17:56,907 --> 01:17:59,073 All these crazy people breaking down this wall, 1570 01:17:59,157 --> 01:18:01,407 I think it's badass. I know that it took time 1571 01:18:01,490 --> 01:18:06,032 to put up, but it's kinda like a trademark of Woodstock '99. 1572 01:18:06,115 --> 01:18:08,407 I'm just destroying the wall for fun, 1573 01:18:08,490 --> 01:18:11,365 - just 'cause I'm at Woodstock. - We want Hendrix's face. 1574 01:18:11,449 --> 01:18:13,991 "Why not?" That's the real question. 1575 01:18:14,073 --> 01:18:16,240 We got bored. There's nothing else to do. 1576 01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:22,866 I think it just symbolizes the disrespect that people have. 1577 01:18:22,949 --> 01:18:25,365 I mean, people spent a lot of time working on this. 1578 01:18:26,157 --> 01:18:27,449 You know it symbolizes peace 1579 01:18:27,532 --> 01:18:28,907 and they're just like going crazy. 1580 01:18:28,991 --> 01:18:31,282 It's been a great time, but there are a lot 1581 01:18:31,365 --> 01:18:34,657 of really stupid humans around here. 1582 01:18:34,741 --> 01:18:36,866 Yeah, all we've been hearing is "Show us your tits, 1583 01:18:36,949 --> 01:18:38,073 show us your tits." 1584 01:18:38,157 --> 01:18:40,907 Flash your tits, flash your tits! 1585 01:18:40,991 --> 01:18:43,949 Flash your tits, flash your tits! 1586 01:18:44,032 --> 01:18:46,949 Flash your tits, flash your tits! 1587 01:18:47,032 --> 01:18:49,615 Flash your tits, flash your tits! 1588 01:18:49,699 --> 01:18:53,240 Flash your tits, flash your tits! 1589 01:18:54,657 --> 01:18:56,282 I was taking like a five-minute break 1590 01:18:56,365 --> 01:18:57,991 outside of the dispatch office. 1591 01:18:58,073 --> 01:19:00,032 And one of the medic units pulls up 1592 01:19:00,115 --> 01:19:02,449 and there's someone in the front seat with them 1593 01:19:02,532 --> 01:19:03,782 that I didn't recognize. 1594 01:19:03,866 --> 01:19:07,699 I was like looked and turned out to be like some little girl. 1595 01:19:07,782 --> 01:19:10,824 The medic jumped out, he's not wearing his shirt, 1596 01:19:10,907 --> 01:19:13,282 and grabbed his two walkies and yelled over to me, 1597 01:19:13,365 --> 01:19:16,449 "Yo, do me a favor. Watch that girl. 1598 01:19:16,532 --> 01:19:18,282 Don't let anyone near her." 1599 01:19:18,365 --> 01:19:21,991 And about two minutes later, he comes out with a nurse. 1600 01:19:22,073 --> 01:19:25,157 So I back up a little bit, he opens the door, 1601 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,532 the nurse goes in, she has a blanket. 1602 01:19:27,615 --> 01:19:29,907 She unfurls the blanket. 1603 01:19:29,991 --> 01:19:34,657 She puts it over the girl, takes her out of the cab, 1604 01:19:34,741 --> 01:19:37,198 and you know, basically guides her 1605 01:19:37,282 --> 01:19:40,449 into the main medical. 1606 01:19:40,532 --> 01:19:43,073 After that, I look at the medic, the medic looks at me. 1607 01:19:43,157 --> 01:19:45,490 And I'm like, "Dude, what's up with that?" 1608 01:19:45,574 --> 01:19:47,407 And he just looks at me and he's just like, 1609 01:19:47,490 --> 01:19:50,699 "Dude, they're just savages. 1610 01:19:50,782 --> 01:19:53,365 Just straight up savages." 1611 01:19:53,449 --> 01:19:58,365 And that's when suddenly the light bulb went off 1612 01:19:58,449 --> 01:20:00,532 in my head, and I was like, 1613 01:20:00,615 --> 01:20:02,782 "Oh, she's wearing his shirt... 1614 01:20:03,949 --> 01:20:06,073 because she had no clothes... 1615 01:20:06,949 --> 01:20:10,449 because... she was sexually assaulted." 1616 01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:15,824 This wasn't Woodstock '69. This wasn't Woodstock '94. 1617 01:20:15,907 --> 01:20:20,699 This was gonna be Woodstock 1999 where love might be free, 1618 01:20:20,782 --> 01:20:23,115 it's not necessarily gonna be given, 1619 01:20:23,198 --> 01:20:24,574 but it's also gonna be taken. 1620 01:20:24,657 --> 01:20:26,073 Hey, guys, back. Give her some room. 1621 01:20:26,157 --> 01:20:27,574 You're gonna scare her. 1622 01:20:27,657 --> 01:20:31,240 There's no question that a few incidents took place, 1623 01:20:31,323 --> 01:20:32,991 but if you go back in the records 1624 01:20:33,073 --> 01:20:35,282 of the police and state police and stuff, 1625 01:20:35,365 --> 01:20:39,490 you're not talking about a hundred, or even fifty. 1626 01:20:39,574 --> 01:20:42,782 - You're talking about ten. - Woodstock '99! 1627 01:20:42,866 --> 01:20:44,449 I am critical 1628 01:20:44,532 --> 01:20:46,365 of the hundreds of women that were walking around 1629 01:20:46,449 --> 01:20:49,198 with no clothes on. And expecting not to be touched. 1630 01:20:49,282 --> 01:20:50,741 They shouldn't have been touched. 1631 01:20:50,824 --> 01:20:54,490 And I condemn it. But, you know, I think that women 1632 01:20:54,574 --> 01:20:57,073 that were running around naked, 1633 01:20:57,157 --> 01:21:00,532 you know, are at least partially to blame for that. 1634 01:21:02,782 --> 01:21:06,198 I mean, seriously, the audacity of these guys. 1635 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,532 How dare you say it's our fault 1636 01:21:10,615 --> 01:21:12,866 that men can't control themselves, 1637 01:21:12,949 --> 01:21:14,741 so what does that say about men? 1638 01:21:17,699 --> 01:21:20,824 One girl told me that she found herself 1639 01:21:20,907 --> 01:21:24,490 in the crowd surrounded by young men 1640 01:21:24,574 --> 01:21:29,282 and that there were three arms on each of her limbs, 1641 01:21:29,365 --> 01:21:34,490 and that they were penetrating her digitally. 1642 01:21:34,574 --> 01:21:38,365 And that she heard one of them yell, "Rip her apart." 1643 01:21:40,032 --> 01:21:42,699 When it was finally over and she was just able 1644 01:21:42,782 --> 01:21:45,282 to just run out of there, 1645 01:21:45,365 --> 01:21:48,073 she didn't even really think to complain to anyone, 1646 01:21:48,157 --> 01:21:50,615 to find anyone to report this to, 1647 01:21:50,699 --> 01:21:55,198 and I think there must have been an overwhelming sense 1648 01:21:55,282 --> 01:21:58,657 given the sheer anarchy of what was going on 1649 01:21:58,741 --> 01:22:01,032 that, you know, "What would be the point?" 1650 01:22:01,115 --> 01:22:03,782 Over there, we camp out over there. 1651 01:22:03,866 --> 01:22:05,032 If you guys walk over there, 1652 01:22:05,115 --> 01:22:07,073 you're gonna hear some noises from me. 1653 01:22:07,157 --> 01:22:08,949 Come on, bring everything you got to 'em. 1654 01:22:09,032 --> 01:22:10,657 We'll fucking party our asses off. 1655 01:22:10,741 --> 01:22:12,574 Yeah! 1656 01:22:12,657 --> 01:22:17,741 There was a very masculine centric attitude going on 1657 01:22:17,824 --> 01:22:21,407 that "I can do and take what I want here at Woodstock." 1658 01:22:21,490 --> 01:22:23,657 Well, I'm just saying that if you just do whatever you want- 1659 01:22:23,741 --> 01:22:26,407 The laws of normal society just don't apply here... 1660 01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:28,824 Show us your tits for the media. 1661 01:22:28,907 --> 01:22:30,866 No, we're not lifting our shirts up! 1662 01:22:30,949 --> 01:22:35,407 I felt unsafe and so I left for my own security. 1663 01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:38,532 Based on what I saw, I knew that there was 1664 01:22:38,615 --> 01:22:40,532 so many women that didn't tell their stories 1665 01:22:40,615 --> 01:22:42,991 or they certainly weren't going to the police. 1666 01:22:43,073 --> 01:22:45,490 I wonder where they are and how they're doing. 1667 01:22:45,574 --> 01:22:48,574 And so we started this little organization 1668 01:22:48,657 --> 01:22:50,115 called Fans Everywhere, 1669 01:22:50,198 --> 01:22:53,699 and we put a little thing out on the internet saying, 1670 01:22:53,782 --> 01:22:56,323 "Did you have a bad experience at Woodstock? 1671 01:22:56,407 --> 01:22:59,532 Do you need somebody to talk to? Do you need some advice? 1672 01:22:59,615 --> 01:23:01,282 We promise it's going to be anonymous. 1673 01:23:01,365 --> 01:23:03,032 We promise we're not gonna tell anybody, 1674 01:23:03,115 --> 01:23:05,032 but we're here to support you." 1675 01:23:05,115 --> 01:23:09,532 And I got dozens upon dozens of emails 1676 01:23:09,615 --> 01:23:11,991 from women, young women. 1677 01:23:12,073 --> 01:23:16,157 Women as young as 14 years old, saying 1678 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,741 "I had a bottle shoved up my vagina," 1679 01:23:18,824 --> 01:23:22,407 or, "I had all of my clothes ripped off in a mosh pit," 1680 01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:26,282 or "I was raped in a tent on Saturday night." 1681 01:23:26,365 --> 01:23:27,741 "And I was screaming. 1682 01:23:27,824 --> 01:23:30,032 And nobody did anything to stop it." 1683 01:23:30,115 --> 01:23:35,032 And then to have all these girls say, "But was it my fault?" 1684 01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:47,657 I woke up Sunday morning. 1685 01:23:47,741 --> 01:23:51,365 I kinda heard my brothers Rob and Brian talking. 1686 01:23:51,449 --> 01:23:55,323 I come out of my tent. And there's no Dave. 1687 01:23:55,407 --> 01:23:57,323 Nobody really knows where he is. 1688 01:23:57,407 --> 01:23:59,407 But we're thinking, you know, 1689 01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:01,115 "Dave was looking for a good time." 1690 01:24:01,198 --> 01:24:04,949 So we wouldn't be surprised if he went to the raves 1691 01:24:05,032 --> 01:24:07,115 that were out all night or made some friends 1692 01:24:07,198 --> 01:24:09,282 'cause he was an easy dude to like. 1693 01:24:12,657 --> 01:24:15,115 As the day kinda went along, you know, 1694 01:24:15,198 --> 01:24:16,699 it kinda goes from that, 1695 01:24:16,782 --> 01:24:19,782 "Okay, he'll turn up," to "Where the hell are you?" 1696 01:24:19,866 --> 01:24:23,240 to, you know, "Where are you?" 1697 01:24:24,866 --> 01:24:26,615 I don't think any of us were really overly concerned. 1698 01:24:26,699 --> 01:24:28,282 It was almost even like there was more anger, 1699 01:24:28,365 --> 01:24:30,449 like, "Where the hell is this guy?" 1700 01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:32,407 "What the heck, dude?" "Like, 1701 01:24:32,490 --> 01:24:35,115 the day's gonna start, and we're leaving today." 1702 01:24:35,198 --> 01:24:37,073 "We wanna know what the plan is." 1703 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,782 So, we start the search and kinda looking around. 1704 01:24:41,866 --> 01:24:43,991 Like, I would head out to the east stage. 1705 01:24:44,073 --> 01:24:45,699 We'd take turns going to the hangar, 1706 01:24:45,782 --> 01:24:46,907 like that central place 1707 01:24:46,991 --> 01:24:50,490 where the board was, and kinda the first aid was. 1708 01:24:50,574 --> 01:24:52,991 Well, we just keep walking, keep walking, keep walking. 1709 01:24:53,073 --> 01:24:55,323 And we keep going back, and, you know, 1710 01:24:55,407 --> 01:24:57,532 I don't think anybody had any real sense 1711 01:24:57,615 --> 01:25:03,657 of dread or fear. It was still more of the "He better be hurt 1712 01:25:03,741 --> 01:25:05,866 because I'm kinda getting pissed now." 1713 01:25:07,157 --> 01:25:11,282 And then Rob was the one who finally found out 1714 01:25:11,365 --> 01:25:13,073 what had happened to Dave. 1715 01:25:15,407 --> 01:25:18,073 They said it was hyperthermia. 1716 01:25:18,157 --> 01:25:21,240 His body temperature rose too high 1717 01:25:21,323 --> 01:25:23,866 when he was at Metallica. 1718 01:25:23,949 --> 01:25:27,866 But for some reason they administered, you know, 1719 01:25:27,949 --> 01:25:30,574 paddles on him, in line with what they were thinking 1720 01:25:30,657 --> 01:25:33,407 that he was OD'ing. 1721 01:25:37,949 --> 01:25:40,032 It was crazy because we didn't do anything. 1722 01:25:40,115 --> 01:25:43,198 We didn't do drugs, we didn't bring drugs, 1723 01:25:43,282 --> 01:25:46,323 we weren't drinking. And then you would hear 1724 01:25:46,407 --> 01:25:48,407 nobody really seemed to take his temperature 1725 01:25:48,490 --> 01:25:51,532 'cause they didn't have the core thermometers, 1726 01:25:51,615 --> 01:25:55,073 that they weren't treating him properly. 1727 01:25:55,157 --> 01:25:57,615 They were not prepared. 1728 01:26:00,574 --> 01:26:03,782 Dave was going to a show to go see his favorite band. 1729 01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:09,532 I just... 1730 01:26:10,824 --> 01:26:14,157 It wasn't really something you ever thought, you know... 1731 01:26:18,073 --> 01:26:20,323 I just remember thinking like... 1732 01:26:21,490 --> 01:26:22,782 "This didn't happen... 1733 01:26:23,782 --> 01:26:26,157 and somebody's gotta go call his mom." 1734 01:26:30,490 --> 01:26:32,115 I need to talk to you as well 1735 01:26:32,198 --> 01:26:34,907 regarding public safety because it was such 1736 01:26:34,991 --> 01:26:36,323 a dangerous atmosphere out there. 1737 01:26:36,407 --> 01:26:37,574 I was backstage. 1738 01:26:37,657 --> 01:26:40,407 The mosh pit medical unit looked like 1739 01:26:40,490 --> 01:26:43,282 a Vietnam triage unit, and not only that, 1740 01:26:43,365 --> 01:26:45,824 but MTV News was forced to get off of home base. 1741 01:26:45,907 --> 01:26:47,490 We felt that it was too dangerous, 1742 01:26:47,574 --> 01:26:49,949 there were people throwing glass bottles everywhere. 1743 01:26:50,032 --> 01:26:52,907 In all of the concerts I've seen- come on, there were kids, 1744 01:26:52,991 --> 01:26:55,615 I talked to kids later who were petrified out there. 1745 01:26:55,699 --> 01:26:58,323 - And I'm sorry I'm not- Excuse me, do you have a question? 1746 01:26:58,407 --> 01:27:00,365 Can I answer your question or you wanna editorialize? 1747 01:27:00,449 --> 01:27:01,949 If you'd like to editorialize, come on up 1748 01:27:02,032 --> 01:27:03,824 and you can editorialize for everybody. 1749 01:27:03,907 --> 01:27:07,449 Can I answer the question if you'll stop talking? 1750 01:27:07,532 --> 01:27:10,365 MTV set the tone because they would 1751 01:27:10,449 --> 01:27:14,824 only really go on the air with people who were pissed off. 1752 01:27:14,907 --> 01:27:17,490 You think that aggro vibe 1753 01:27:17,574 --> 01:27:18,907 had anything to do with what happened? 1754 01:27:18,991 --> 01:27:20,282 Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that 1755 01:27:20,365 --> 01:27:23,365 that's what drew the large, young, white, male, 1756 01:27:23,449 --> 01:27:25,449 frustrated, upper-middle class, 1757 01:27:25,532 --> 01:27:27,115 "I've been given everything and still I'm mad, 1758 01:27:27,198 --> 01:27:30,323 but I'm not really sure why I'm mad," kind of attitude. 1759 01:27:30,407 --> 01:27:32,282 As things started to go down 1760 01:27:32,365 --> 01:27:34,490 I remember feeling like things were literally going out 1761 01:27:34,574 --> 01:27:37,282 of control and there just became a quintessential moment 1762 01:27:37,365 --> 01:27:39,741 where we were told by our bosses 1763 01:27:39,824 --> 01:27:42,490 "MTV and, like, Viacom can no longer 1764 01:27:42,574 --> 01:27:45,949 guarantee your safety." Like, "Run for it", sort of thing. 1765 01:27:46,032 --> 01:27:49,157 And so we packed a van and we drove in this white van. 1766 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,490 I remember just, like, speeding through corn fields, 1767 01:27:51,574 --> 01:27:53,866 like, to get away from the Woodstock set. 1768 01:27:53,949 --> 01:27:56,741 And it really was terrifying. 1769 01:27:56,824 --> 01:27:58,824 MTV news made it into as if 1770 01:27:58,907 --> 01:28:02,157 it was an animal fest, and it just wasn't. 1771 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,157 Bloodthirsty maniacs trying to kill me. 1772 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,032 It was disgusting. I was molested. 1773 01:28:06,115 --> 01:28:08,073 And I hate all men now. 1774 01:28:08,157 --> 01:28:11,240 So it terribly got manipulated by MTV, 1775 01:28:11,323 --> 01:28:12,949 especially Kurt Loder. 1776 01:28:14,115 --> 01:28:15,949 He just wasn't on the team. 1777 01:28:16,032 --> 01:28:18,490 There have really been some scary moments here 1778 01:28:18,574 --> 01:28:19,866 just with crowd violence. 1779 01:28:19,949 --> 01:28:21,741 I'm just laughing. I think Michael, at one point, 1780 01:28:21,824 --> 01:28:23,198 called him a war journalist. 1781 01:28:23,282 --> 01:28:25,574 That was really what he wanted to be 1782 01:28:25,657 --> 01:28:28,032 and this was as close as he was gonna come. 1783 01:28:30,907 --> 01:28:32,741 A film crew came through 1784 01:28:32,824 --> 01:28:34,824 and they had the promoters with them. 1785 01:28:34,907 --> 01:28:38,240 And they stopped right in front of us basically 1786 01:28:38,323 --> 01:28:39,407 and did a little interview. 1787 01:28:39,490 --> 01:28:43,282 And they talked about how great everything was 1788 01:28:43,365 --> 01:28:45,032 and what a success it was. 1789 01:28:45,115 --> 01:28:47,866 And we're looking at each other, thinking like 1790 01:28:47,949 --> 01:28:49,949 "What are these guys talking about?" 1791 01:28:50,073 --> 01:28:52,282 Knowing full well that in a few hours 1792 01:28:52,365 --> 01:28:55,949 this place was gonna turn into a complete shit show. 1793 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,240 We are backstage at Woodstock '99 1794 01:28:59,323 --> 01:29:02,574 with the Woodstock organizers, Michael Lang and John Scher. 1795 01:29:02,657 --> 01:29:05,907 How's it going? You look all happy, things must be going very well. 1796 01:29:05,991 --> 01:29:08,073 So far, so good. The music's been amazing. 1797 01:29:08,157 --> 01:29:09,949 - Right. Kids are having a good time. 1798 01:29:10,032 --> 01:29:12,407 The biggest problem has been a little bit 1799 01:29:12,490 --> 01:29:14,699 of too warm temperature, 1800 01:29:14,782 --> 01:29:16,657 but other than that we're doing great. 1801 01:29:16,741 --> 01:29:20,240 Woodstock! 1802 01:29:20,323 --> 01:29:24,824 Please welcome Atlantic recording artist Jewel! 1803 01:29:27,949 --> 01:29:31,574 When I went out, the crowd felt strange. 1804 01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:34,532 They felt really tired and very depleted. 1805 01:29:35,866 --> 01:29:38,907 Felt like there was a grey, dense fog 1806 01:29:38,991 --> 01:29:40,490 hanging over everything, 1807 01:29:40,574 --> 01:29:42,115 and for me to try and figure out, 1808 01:29:42,198 --> 01:29:43,949 "How do I cut through that?" 1809 01:29:44,032 --> 01:29:46,240 "How do I create a tone, or a voice, or a sound 1810 01:29:46,323 --> 01:29:49,032 that's gonna cut through this really strange, 1811 01:29:49,115 --> 01:29:50,449 heavy energy," 1812 01:29:50,532 --> 01:29:53,574 was definitely at the forefront of my mind while I'm singing. 1813 01:29:53,657 --> 01:29:56,449 I didn't know what was going on particularly. 1814 01:29:56,532 --> 01:29:58,991 But you could just feel it. 1815 01:29:59,073 --> 01:30:01,866 I think we should leave. It's so hot in here. 1816 01:30:02,532 --> 01:30:04,115 I'm so weak. 1817 01:30:04,198 --> 01:30:06,949 - I can't feel my legs anymore. - Me neither. 1818 01:30:07,032 --> 01:30:09,574 The thing, I think, that amazes me most 1819 01:30:09,657 --> 01:30:13,532 is that so many people chose to stay. 1820 01:30:13,615 --> 01:30:15,407 It does seem like mass psychosis, 1821 01:30:15,490 --> 01:30:17,490 at some point on Sunday. 1822 01:30:17,574 --> 01:30:19,157 Because otherwise I have no idea like, 1823 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,449 why the hell you're still there. 1824 01:30:21,532 --> 01:30:23,741 - It's filthy. - Piss and shit everywhere. 1825 01:30:23,824 --> 01:30:25,657 Piss and shit everywhere. 1826 01:30:25,741 --> 01:30:27,073 And you could just tell, like, 1827 01:30:27,157 --> 01:30:30,240 people were not having fun and happy to be there anymore. 1828 01:30:30,323 --> 01:30:32,490 And after Jewel, Creed played. 1829 01:30:32,574 --> 01:30:35,449 They brought out a guy from The Doors to play with them, 1830 01:30:35,532 --> 01:30:39,157 but as a 19-year-old, that meant less than nothing to me. 1831 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,073 They're trotting this guy out on stage. 1832 01:30:41,157 --> 01:30:43,532 This is Robby Krieger from The Doors, man. 1833 01:30:45,699 --> 01:30:47,365 There wasn't this excitement 1834 01:30:47,449 --> 01:30:50,657 that I think people would expect or assume, 1835 01:30:50,741 --> 01:30:54,490 that we had because it just... it wasn't Woodstock '69. 1836 01:30:54,574 --> 01:30:58,449 But it was our, you know, way of wanting to kind of bring 1837 01:30:58,532 --> 01:31:02,157 someone from that era to 1999. 1838 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,449 And tie those two festivals together. 1839 01:31:06,699 --> 01:31:08,365 I remember you look at the crowd 1840 01:31:08,449 --> 01:31:10,699 and the crowd is all 22 years old, 1841 01:31:10,782 --> 01:31:13,782 and Robby Krieger could not mean less to them. 1842 01:31:13,866 --> 01:31:15,657 Like, Creed barely means anything to them. 1843 01:31:17,032 --> 01:31:18,699 Thirty years ago when this festival 1844 01:31:18,782 --> 01:31:20,157 first started... 1845 01:31:22,282 --> 01:31:23,741 people came together. 1846 01:31:24,574 --> 01:31:25,949 They came together to love. 1847 01:31:29,532 --> 01:31:32,032 They came together to show the world 1848 01:31:32,115 --> 01:31:34,699 that they could unify for one cause 1849 01:31:34,782 --> 01:31:36,532 and that the young people's generation 1850 01:31:36,615 --> 01:31:38,532 could make a difference, you know that? 1851 01:31:40,198 --> 01:31:43,615 By Sunday, it's not the market for nostalgia, 1852 01:31:43,699 --> 01:31:47,240 specifically nostalgia for 30 full years ago. 1853 01:31:53,323 --> 01:31:57,449 As we were walking from one band to another, 1854 01:31:57,532 --> 01:31:59,407 I started seeing people with candles 1855 01:31:59,490 --> 01:32:01,741 and I was like, "Why do you have a candle?" 1856 01:32:01,824 --> 01:32:03,073 And there were more people with candles 1857 01:32:03,157 --> 01:32:04,824 and more people with candles. 1858 01:32:07,407 --> 01:32:08,741 They handed out candles, 1859 01:32:08,824 --> 01:32:11,365 specifically trying to get people to set fire to them. 1860 01:32:11,449 --> 01:32:14,115 And hold them aloft, you know, in a sort 1861 01:32:14,198 --> 01:32:17,157 of Melanie lay down candles in the rain sort of vibe. 1862 01:32:20,323 --> 01:32:22,073 It makes complete sense. 1863 01:32:22,157 --> 01:32:25,157 It's a horrible irony that it was a group 1864 01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,741 of non-profit volunteers 1865 01:32:27,824 --> 01:32:30,657 who were looking to hold a vigil in memory 1866 01:32:30,741 --> 01:32:32,365 of the victims of Columbine 1867 01:32:32,449 --> 01:32:34,198 that they handed these candles off to kids 1868 01:32:34,282 --> 01:32:37,991 who then just torched everything. 1869 01:32:40,282 --> 01:32:44,657 Hey, if you have at home or in your car, 1870 01:32:44,741 --> 01:32:46,282 if you have a gun, 1871 01:32:46,365 --> 01:32:50,157 be sure to throw it away, throw it in the garbage. 1872 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,032 Just get the fuck rid of it. 1873 01:32:53,532 --> 01:32:55,657 Don't need that shit. 1874 01:33:00,782 --> 01:33:02,323 The east stage is on fire. 1875 01:33:02,407 --> 01:33:05,115 - East Stage is still on fire? - Yeah, they're on fire. 1876 01:33:05,198 --> 01:33:07,782 Hey, they started the east stage on fire. 1877 01:33:07,866 --> 01:33:09,824 We started to make our way over 1878 01:33:09,907 --> 01:33:13,240 to Red Hot Chili Peppers, and we can see in the distance 1879 01:33:13,323 --> 01:33:15,032 big fires shooting up in the sky. 1880 01:33:17,073 --> 01:33:21,907 ♪ Sometimes I feel like I don't have a partner ♪ 1881 01:33:21,991 --> 01:33:26,949 ♪ Sometimes I feel Like my only friend ♪ 1882 01:33:27,032 --> 01:33:30,240 ♪ Is the city I live in... ♪ 1883 01:33:31,115 --> 01:33:32,365 Shit, it's real fire. 1884 01:33:32,449 --> 01:33:34,365 What do you guys see? What do you guys see? 1885 01:33:34,449 --> 01:33:36,490 Yo, the east stage, fire there with the big trucks. 1886 01:33:36,574 --> 01:33:39,157 - Yeah. - It's Lord of the Flies down there. 1887 01:33:52,449 --> 01:33:56,615 Hey, guys, as you can see if you look behind you, 1888 01:33:57,323 --> 01:33:59,198 we have a bit of a problem. 1889 01:33:59,282 --> 01:34:00,949 Chili Peppers are gonna come back. 1890 01:34:01,032 --> 01:34:04,323 Calm down. We don't want anybody to get hurt. 1891 01:34:04,407 --> 01:34:07,032 So the fire department is gonna have to come in 1892 01:34:07,115 --> 01:34:10,532 with a firetruck to put the fire out. 1893 01:34:10,615 --> 01:34:14,407 If everybody can cooperate, we'd appreciate it. 1894 01:34:14,490 --> 01:34:18,532 You guys who are back there, all the way back, near the fire, 1895 01:34:18,615 --> 01:34:20,866 if you can hear me, back away. 1896 01:34:20,949 --> 01:34:22,907 This is a very dangerous situation. 1897 01:34:22,991 --> 01:34:24,615 Everyone is trying to get out of here. 1898 01:34:24,699 --> 01:34:26,032 - Yes. - I think we're going to go. 1899 01:34:26,115 --> 01:34:27,657 So let's back away. 1900 01:34:27,741 --> 01:34:29,407 Let the fire department do their job. 1901 01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:32,198 Make sure nobody gets hurt. 1902 01:34:37,741 --> 01:34:39,782 That night, I went to Anthony Kiedis 1903 01:34:39,866 --> 01:34:42,240 and said to him, "You need to help us. 1904 01:34:42,323 --> 01:34:44,115 We need to quell this crowd 1905 01:34:44,198 --> 01:34:46,949 in order to get there and take these fires down." 1906 01:34:47,032 --> 01:34:48,198 Holy... 1907 01:34:48,282 --> 01:34:51,866 Holy shit. It's Apocalypse Now out there. 1908 01:34:54,073 --> 01:34:56,532 Make way for the fire engine. 1909 01:34:57,699 --> 01:34:59,741 You wanna do it? You wanna do it? 1910 01:34:59,824 --> 01:35:01,699 Fuck you! 1911 01:35:09,699 --> 01:35:11,240 And what he did is went out 1912 01:35:11,323 --> 01:35:14,699 and on his encore played "Fire" from Jimi Hendrix. 1913 01:35:14,782 --> 01:35:17,365 ♪ You don't care for me I don't-a care about that ♪ 1914 01:35:17,449 --> 01:35:20,323 ♪ You got a new fool, ha I like to laugh at ♪ 1915 01:35:20,407 --> 01:35:23,073 ♪ I have only one A-burnin' desire ♪ 1916 01:35:23,157 --> 01:35:25,282 ♪ Okay, let me stand Next to your fire ♪ 1917 01:35:25,365 --> 01:35:27,907 ♪ Let me stand Next to your fire ♪ 1918 01:35:27,991 --> 01:35:30,282 ♪ Let me stand Next to your fire ♪ 1919 01:35:30,365 --> 01:35:32,949 ♪ Let me stand Next to your fire ♪ 1920 01:35:33,032 --> 01:35:35,198 ♪ Let me stand Next to your fire ♪ 1921 01:35:36,073 --> 01:35:37,699 ♪ Oh, come here, girl ♪ 1922 01:35:39,323 --> 01:35:40,907 At that point, the violence in the crowd 1923 01:35:40,991 --> 01:35:42,615 had already started to spread and started 1924 01:35:42,699 --> 01:35:44,574 to get really destructive. 1925 01:35:45,866 --> 01:35:48,741 All weekend long the promoters spoke a lot 1926 01:35:48,824 --> 01:35:51,323 about turning swords into plow shares, 1927 01:35:51,407 --> 01:35:53,323 but what we saw Sunday night 1928 01:35:53,407 --> 01:35:56,198 was a lot of turning back into swords. 1929 01:36:23,907 --> 01:36:26,824 Things escalated pretty quickly. 1930 01:36:26,907 --> 01:36:30,365 There was tension in the air, but by the end of that set, 1931 01:36:30,449 --> 01:36:33,282 it was like a powder keg. 1932 01:36:59,824 --> 01:37:03,532 We kind of graduated from, like, just trash and wood fires. 1933 01:37:03,615 --> 01:37:05,699 We ended up going to get into the trucks 1934 01:37:05,782 --> 01:37:07,157 where they had the supplies, 1935 01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:08,782 like the food and drinks and stuff. 1936 01:37:08,866 --> 01:37:11,282 And then I specifically remember, 1937 01:37:11,365 --> 01:37:13,615 like, one of the trucks I went into 1938 01:37:13,699 --> 01:37:15,073 had frozen pretzels, 1939 01:37:15,157 --> 01:37:18,073 so we're flinging frozen pretzels 1940 01:37:18,157 --> 01:37:20,449 through the fire like a bunch of idiots. 1941 01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:22,490 It's free! Let's go! 1942 01:37:24,032 --> 01:37:25,991 I had more water Sunday night during the riots 1943 01:37:26,073 --> 01:37:27,991 than I probably had the rest of the weekend combined. 1944 01:37:28,073 --> 01:37:30,240 Because we finally had access to all this stuff. 1945 01:37:41,157 --> 01:37:42,407 And that night, you know, 1946 01:37:42,490 --> 01:37:44,490 from the Chili Peppers' set onward, 1947 01:37:44,574 --> 01:37:47,240 like, we had the power at that point, 1948 01:37:47,323 --> 01:37:49,490 like, we controlled everything that was happening 1949 01:37:49,574 --> 01:37:51,115 from that point forward. 1950 01:37:53,115 --> 01:37:55,699 It did feel like this unifying force, 1951 01:37:55,782 --> 01:37:59,574 like these are my people now, and we're gonna go crazy. 1952 01:38:09,198 --> 01:38:12,115 And I don't know, I'm not a guy, I never in a million years 1953 01:38:12,198 --> 01:38:14,615 would have thought I'd somehow gotten drawn into a riot, 1954 01:38:14,699 --> 01:38:19,115 but, man, it just... it was just kind of... it just happened. 1955 01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:49,157 It's like a 20-dollar fucking value box. 1956 01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,240 - How much did you pay for 'em? - Free! 1957 01:38:51,323 --> 01:38:52,866 - And jackets. - Free! 1958 01:38:52,949 --> 01:38:54,991 When kids are ripping open ATM machines 1959 01:38:55,073 --> 01:38:56,365 with their bare hands 1960 01:38:56,449 --> 01:38:59,699 and lighting Mercedes-Benzes on fire, 1961 01:38:59,782 --> 01:39:03,657 I mean, they're telling you what they think of your greed. 1962 01:39:28,115 --> 01:39:29,615 I mean, it's a little concerning 1963 01:39:29,699 --> 01:39:32,657 that I could go from, like, a pretty mild-mannered kid 1964 01:39:32,741 --> 01:39:36,198 on day one and then by midnight on Sunday, 1965 01:39:36,282 --> 01:39:38,699 it is straight Lord of the Flies out there, 1966 01:39:38,782 --> 01:39:41,532 and I'm losing my damn mind like an idiot. 1967 01:39:41,615 --> 01:39:43,657 When in Rome, I guess, I don't know. 1968 01:39:58,198 --> 01:40:00,240 Turn that fucking camera off. 1969 01:40:00,323 --> 01:40:02,449 They've got the cops here now. 1970 01:40:06,157 --> 01:40:08,949 Fucking you better be worried, guy. 1971 01:40:15,115 --> 01:40:17,240 When things started to get really bad, 1972 01:40:17,323 --> 01:40:19,866 I had everybody turn their shirts inside out 1973 01:40:19,949 --> 01:40:22,574 and put their credentials down inside their shirts 1974 01:40:22,657 --> 01:40:25,824 because I didn't know if, you know, 1975 01:40:25,907 --> 01:40:28,365 we were all of a sudden gonna become targets maybe. 1976 01:40:35,657 --> 01:40:37,741 When the police finally did roll in, 1977 01:40:37,824 --> 01:40:39,365 you know, it was like hats and bats 1978 01:40:39,449 --> 01:40:42,282 and shields and, you know, here they came. 1979 01:40:42,365 --> 01:40:45,699 - Here we go. - Party's over. 1980 01:40:45,782 --> 01:40:47,532 This is outta control! 1981 01:40:51,282 --> 01:40:54,991 You know, we're a bunch of 20-year-old white kids, 1982 01:40:55,073 --> 01:40:56,949 so when we start burning a bunch of stuff down 1983 01:40:57,032 --> 01:40:58,782 and, like, stealing from ATMs 1984 01:40:58,866 --> 01:41:01,282 and just burning this whole thing down, 1985 01:41:01,365 --> 01:41:03,991 the riot police, they come in very polite, 1986 01:41:04,073 --> 01:41:05,449 you know, and just move people out. 1987 01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:08,907 Man, they talk about white privileges like, Jesus Christ, 1988 01:41:08,991 --> 01:41:11,824 like if this was a hip-hop festival in 2020 1989 01:41:11,907 --> 01:41:13,282 and people started burning it down, 1990 01:41:13,365 --> 01:41:15,198 it would not go so nicely. 1991 01:41:19,115 --> 01:41:20,866 Yeah, dude, you're the man. 1992 01:41:23,282 --> 01:41:25,699 There was a sense of all the people 1993 01:41:25,782 --> 01:41:28,365 who were rioting for lack of a better term, 1994 01:41:28,449 --> 01:41:31,949 at that point, were kind of like together 1995 01:41:32,032 --> 01:41:33,907 in that rioting, you know. It was like, 1996 01:41:33,991 --> 01:41:36,115 they finally all had a sense of purpose. 1997 01:41:36,198 --> 01:41:39,365 Listen, look right there. See the little yellow light? 1998 01:41:39,449 --> 01:41:41,073 That means we've got five minutes left 1999 01:41:41,157 --> 01:41:43,490 till the end of Woodstock 1999. 2000 01:41:44,615 --> 01:41:47,615 Okay, so we have a time for one more song. 2001 01:41:47,699 --> 01:41:49,282 And then it just couldn't have been 2002 01:41:49,365 --> 01:41:52,532 planned better, you know, with Megadeth closing. 2003 01:41:52,615 --> 01:41:56,323 And closing with their tune "Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?" 2004 01:41:56,407 --> 01:41:59,282 ♪ Peace sells But who's buying? ♪ 2005 01:41:59,365 --> 01:42:01,741 ♪ Peace sells But who's buying? ♪ 2006 01:42:01,824 --> 01:42:03,866 We are in a service business. 2007 01:42:03,949 --> 01:42:06,157 Those of us who are troubadours. 2008 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,198 And what's happened is along the way 2009 01:42:09,282 --> 01:42:11,699 the tax collector came in. 2010 01:42:11,782 --> 01:42:14,240 People are sick of being ripped off. 2011 01:42:14,323 --> 01:42:16,949 This was a great time, but there's no way 2012 01:42:17,032 --> 01:42:20,073 it was worth paying four dollars for a water. 2013 01:42:20,157 --> 01:42:23,699 I mean, they were all about making money off us 2014 01:42:23,782 --> 01:42:26,323 and we're all about getting wasted and partying. 2015 01:42:26,407 --> 01:42:29,615 I mean, it's just not cool and we're pissed. 2016 01:42:29,699 --> 01:42:32,699 You know, the question really very quickly 2017 01:42:32,782 --> 01:42:37,198 became, not "How could this have happened?" 2018 01:42:37,282 --> 01:42:38,907 But "How could it not?" 2019 01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:42,782 John, there was a kind 2020 01:42:42,866 --> 01:42:47,240 of gradual breakdown of the whole infrastructure 2021 01:42:47,323 --> 01:42:48,949 and as the day went on 2022 01:42:49,032 --> 01:42:51,449 I didn't really see much of a presence at all 2023 01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:52,907 of the security guards except maybe 2024 01:42:52,991 --> 01:42:54,574 at some of the gates. 2025 01:42:54,657 --> 01:42:55,949 Can you speak to that? 2026 01:42:56,032 --> 01:42:59,032 Where were the guards when the fires were being set? 2027 01:42:59,115 --> 01:43:01,907 You know, I think I used this term then, 2028 01:43:01,991 --> 01:43:03,949 there were a bunch of knuckleheads. 2029 01:43:04,991 --> 01:43:07,365 You know? A bunch of knuckleheads 2030 01:43:07,449 --> 01:43:10,407 that caused those problems 2031 01:43:10,490 --> 01:43:12,699 and despite those problems, 2032 01:43:12,782 --> 01:43:14,866 the overwhelming number of people 2033 01:43:14,949 --> 01:43:18,282 that attended had a great time. 2034 01:43:18,365 --> 01:43:23,240 Really the biggest problem was that MTV set the tone 2035 01:43:23,323 --> 01:43:26,198 so we got killed in the press 2036 01:43:26,282 --> 01:43:32,991 and I didn't figure on Fred Durst inciting a riot. 2037 01:43:36,699 --> 01:43:39,365 About three months after Woodstock '99, 2038 01:43:39,449 --> 01:43:42,657 the first iteration of Coachella debuts. 2039 01:43:42,741 --> 01:43:45,657 And you couldn't ask for a more stark 2040 01:43:45,741 --> 01:43:49,532 like Goofus and Gallant version of music festivals at this time. 2041 01:43:51,407 --> 01:43:54,699 It was in Palm Springs, and it was balmy. 2042 01:43:54,782 --> 01:43:56,115 There's Bjork performing 2043 01:43:56,198 --> 01:43:58,449 and there's enlightened, progressive hip-hop. 2044 01:43:58,532 --> 01:44:01,073 Coachella '99 really was everything 2045 01:44:01,157 --> 01:44:04,198 Woodstock '99 should have been. 2046 01:44:05,574 --> 01:44:07,240 When people were walking in, 2047 01:44:07,323 --> 01:44:09,157 they were handed a free water bottle. 2048 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,657 There was free parking. I mean, 2049 01:44:10,741 --> 01:44:13,741 those two things seemed like they were in direct response 2050 01:44:13,824 --> 01:44:16,741 to the excesses at Woodstock '99. 2051 01:44:17,949 --> 01:44:21,365 I will say, however, that as Coachella progresses, 2052 01:44:21,449 --> 01:44:24,323 and this is also true of all the big festivals now, 2053 01:44:24,407 --> 01:44:27,157 it's pretty clear that the power dynamics 2054 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:28,365 that come into play 2055 01:44:28,449 --> 01:44:31,490 haven't really changed, it's just that they're cleaner. 2056 01:44:31,574 --> 01:44:33,657 And if you wanna assert your power, 2057 01:44:33,741 --> 01:44:36,157 you just have to be a really wealthy person 2058 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,615 who can afford to be backstage and look 2059 01:44:38,699 --> 01:44:42,657 at all the people out there who aren't as lucky as you are. 2060 01:44:42,741 --> 01:44:44,824 And then you're gonna be able to take photos of yourself 2061 01:44:44,907 --> 01:44:47,824 and show the world that you are someone 2062 01:44:47,907 --> 01:44:49,699 who literally has a badge on themselves 2063 01:44:49,782 --> 01:44:52,365 that says, "Very Important Person." 2064 01:44:52,449 --> 01:44:54,782 I think progress is all fits and starts, right? 2065 01:44:54,866 --> 01:44:58,907 It's never one direction, it's never completely linear. 2066 01:44:58,991 --> 01:45:02,449 And with the explosion that was Woodstock '99, 2067 01:45:02,532 --> 01:45:05,198 there is a definite umbilical cord 2068 01:45:05,282 --> 01:45:08,741 between the dark, sexual, cultural, 2069 01:45:08,824 --> 01:45:12,032 political underbelly in the country at that time 2070 01:45:12,115 --> 01:45:14,866 to where we are now. 2071 01:45:14,949 --> 01:45:18,407 A lot of that energy that was permeating that crowd that day, 2072 01:45:18,490 --> 01:45:21,532 it just wound up in chatrooms and Reddit boards, 2073 01:45:21,615 --> 01:45:24,198 and it's just fascinating to think about 2074 01:45:24,282 --> 01:45:26,365 because I don't know if it's possible to get 2075 01:45:26,449 --> 01:45:28,991 that collection of people together 2076 01:45:29,073 --> 01:45:33,490 in 2021 without it being a cause for concern. 2077 01:45:34,991 --> 01:45:37,490 To me, the ultimate tragedy of Woodstock '99, 2078 01:45:37,574 --> 01:45:40,866 is that almost all the problems that occurred that weekend 2079 01:45:40,949 --> 01:45:44,949 were foreseeable ahead of time, and therefore preventable. 2080 01:45:45,032 --> 01:45:47,699 This again speaks to the mythology of Woodstock. 2081 01:45:47,782 --> 01:45:49,949 That this was almost like magic fairy pixie dust 2082 01:45:50,032 --> 01:45:52,073 or something that you could just sprinkle... 2083 01:45:52,157 --> 01:45:54,157 over all this poor planning 2084 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,574 and because it was Woodstock, it would work. 2085 01:45:56,657 --> 01:45:59,574 But, when you take off the rose-colored glasses, 2086 01:45:59,657 --> 01:46:01,907 and look at Woodstock and what it actually was, 2087 01:46:01,991 --> 01:46:04,073 it was about sequestering yourself from society 2088 01:46:04,157 --> 01:46:05,824 and really living the kind of life 2089 01:46:05,907 --> 01:46:09,240 that wouldn't be sustained, like if we all did that. 2090 01:46:09,323 --> 01:46:11,699 Like if we all went into a field with no police, 2091 01:46:11,782 --> 01:46:16,323 do a lot of drugs and listen to rock music all day long, 2092 01:46:16,407 --> 01:46:18,741 I mean, things would fall apart, I think, pretty quickly. 2093 01:46:25,490 --> 01:46:28,157 At the Woodstock '99 concert 2094 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,782 in Central New York, what was supposed 2095 01:46:30,866 --> 01:46:34,032 to be three days of peace, love and music, 2096 01:46:34,115 --> 01:46:35,949 ended in a night of looting... 2097 01:46:36,032 --> 01:46:37,323 Commercialism, 2098 01:46:37,407 --> 01:46:39,782 that's what some people say led to the fall of Woodstock '99. 2099 01:46:39,866 --> 01:46:41,949 I mean, the kids were hungry, they were thirsty, they were... 2100 01:46:42,032 --> 01:46:45,157 The fires were put out this morning and most festival goers 2101 01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,615 had left the site by 9:00 a.m., but the Woodstock name 2102 01:46:48,699 --> 01:46:50,115 may have sustained lasting damage. 2103 01:46:50,198 --> 01:46:52,157 First person charged with sexual violence 2104 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,157 at last weekend's Woodstock festival 2105 01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,782 turns out to be a New York state prison guard. 2106 01:46:56,866 --> 01:46:58,115 The prison guard was charged 2107 01:46:58,198 --> 01:47:00,574 with sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl. 2108 01:47:00,657 --> 01:47:03,866 Here's another horror story from Woodstock '99 today. 2109 01:47:03,949 --> 01:47:07,449 The police are now investigating four cases of women 2110 01:47:07,532 --> 01:47:09,157 alleging they were raped. 2111 01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,073 One woman says she was attacked right in front of the stage 2112 01:47:12,157 --> 01:47:15,991 as the band played on and a lot of people stood by. 2113 01:47:20,449 --> 01:47:22,657 Had we programmed this more 2114 01:47:22,741 --> 01:47:26,657 along the lines of '94 or '69, 2115 01:47:26,741 --> 01:47:28,615 it would have been a different event 2116 01:47:28,699 --> 01:47:30,615 and attracted a different audience. 2117 01:47:32,365 --> 01:47:34,782 But the intention here was to do something 2118 01:47:34,866 --> 01:47:36,574 very contemporary, 2119 01:47:36,657 --> 01:47:39,907 and that's what contemporary was. 2120 01:47:41,365 --> 01:47:43,824 Do you think there'll ever be another Woodstock? 2121 01:47:47,323 --> 01:47:49,490 There always could be another Woodstock. 2122 01:47:49,574 --> 01:47:52,741 I mean, I've just learned never to say never about that. 2123 01:48:34,657 --> 01:48:36,490 We're taking steps to protect everybody. 2124 01:48:36,574 --> 01:48:39,240 We want it to be a completely safe event. 2125 01:48:39,323 --> 01:48:42,032 You know, there will be zero tolerance for anything, 2126 01:48:42,115 --> 01:48:45,949 you know, other than, you know, proper behavior. 2127 01:48:53,574 --> 01:48:55,782 ♪ When we were young The future was so bright ♪ 2128 01:48:55,866 --> 01:48:58,157 ♪ The old neighborhood Was so alive ♪ 2129 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,699 ♪ And every kid On the whole damn street ♪ 2130 01:49:00,782 --> 01:49:03,115 ♪ Was gonna make it big And not be beat ♪ 2131 01:49:03,198 --> 01:49:05,323 ♪ Now the neighborhood's cracked And torn ♪ 2132 01:49:05,407 --> 01:49:07,615 ♪ The kids are grown up But their lives are worn ♪ 2133 01:49:07,699 --> 01:49:11,824 ♪ How can one little street Swallow so many lives? ♪ 2134 01:49:11,907 --> 01:49:16,866 ♪ Chances thrown Nothing's free ♪ 2135 01:49:16,949 --> 01:49:21,449 ♪ Longing for used to be ♪ 2136 01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:26,323 ♪ Still it's hard, hard to see ♪ 2137 01:49:26,407 --> 01:49:31,615 ♪ Fragile lives Shattered dreams ♪ 2138 01:49:31,699 --> 01:49:32,991 ♪ Go! ♪ 2139 01:49:50,574 --> 01:49:55,407 ♪ Chances thrown Nothing's free ♪ 2140 01:49:55,490 --> 01:49:59,991 ♪ Longing for, used to be ♪ 2141 01:50:00,073 --> 01:50:04,907 ♪ Still it's hard, hard to see ♪ 2142 01:50:04,991 --> 01:50:09,949 ♪ Fragile lives Shattered dreams ♪ 170991

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