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In telling the story
of Woodstock '99,
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it would have been really easy
to structure this as a comedy,
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poking fun of all things
late 1990s.
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The way people dressed,
the music they listened to.
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But, in reality,
as that weekend unfolded,
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it played out
much more like a horror film.
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Mike, what's the worst part
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of running one of these things?
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- The worst part?
- What's the worst part
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about running one of them?
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I don't know.
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- Huh?
- I don't know.
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- Do you dig it all?
- Yeah.
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I guess the biggest hassle
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is dealing with the politics,
you know.
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There are a lot
of politics involved,
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- you mean with the cities?
- Yeah.
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And you got that solved?
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- Well, looks that way.
- Looks that way.
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- Where are you gonna go
from here?
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- I mean...
- You gonna do another one?
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If it works.
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Okay, guys.
It is hot out there.
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The National Weather Service
has already issued
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a heat advisory
for your day tomorrow.
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Which's gonna feel like
it's a hundred degrees.
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How's the traffic coming in?
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It's bad.
It's just backed up everywhere.
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When the ball drops
on the year 2000,
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it will be a momentous event
for the world
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and for the US economy,
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which is closing in on
on its longest expansion ever.
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The decade has been marked
by strong growth,
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the lowest unemployment
in a generation.
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And yet remarkably,
little inflation.
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How you guys doing today,
welcome to Woodstock.
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Where you wanna go, East Stage,
West Stage, Center Stage?
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Center stage.
You wanna stay straight...
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Straight ahead, okay?
Straight ahead.
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Okay, there you go.
Yup, just leave him up here.
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So have fun, okay, guys?
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You guys okay? You got your
toilet paper? - Yes.
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A senate panel describes Y2K
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as a worldwide crisis.
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- Welcome to 1999 on MTV.
- Whoo!
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- Limp Bizkit!
- Woodstock '99.
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Stay home for the trip
of your life on pay per view.
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And what's the town like?
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It's pretty cool.
They're all nice.
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Like, this is the first, like,
concert I've been to
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where everybody that you'll meet
is really nice to you.
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The biggest news,
shortly before 1:30
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this afternoon,
President Clinton was impeached.
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I'm gonna say this again.
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I did not have sexual relations
with that woman.
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So this is the night
before, the night before
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the big day kicking off,
Woodstock '99.
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And right here is a little bit
of a party going on.
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What's happening
is 350,000 people
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are gonna be taken care of,
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by about 10,000 staff people,
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all looking over
the 350,000 people.
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The biggest concert of the year
was Woodstock '94
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in Saugerties, New York.
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The fans not only wore the mud
at the festival,
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but they also ate it.
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What was initially predicted
to be an overhyped,
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commercial disaster turned out
to be nothing of the sort.
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♪ Oh, my life ♪
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♪ Is changing everyday ♪
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♪ In every possible way... ♪
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I get stopped all the time
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by people who had
the time of their life
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at Woodstock '94.
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There was a tone that was set,
an expectation
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not only of the artists
that were performing
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but an expectation
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of how the audience
would perform.
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We had probably
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three or four hundred
thousand people at the festival.
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Its biggest problem
was the fences came down,
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so we lost money.
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Also, you know, it was raining.
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It rained on
and off all weekend,
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it was an absolute mud pit.
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People helped each other,
loved each other,
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no violence.
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It was sort of, probably,
the last hurrah
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for the baby boomers
and their kids.
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- Welcome to Woodstock 1994!
- Welcome to Woodstock 1994!
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When we did Woodstock '94,
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the idea was to function
as a bridge
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between the music
that we generated in the '60s
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and what was contemporary
in the '90s.
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And it worked really well.
The weekend was amazing.
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We replicated a lineup
that was reasonably close
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to what '69 was.
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You know, the general peace,
love, and harmony thing
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worked still.
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After the festival,
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Michael and I looked
at each other and said,
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"Okay, let's do it again
in like five years."
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Woodstock seems
to remain the American festival.
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And I think we should do it
every five years or so,
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so a new generation of college
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and graduating high school kids
get to experience it.
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In '99 we found a perfect site
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in Rome, New York.
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They've got this
retired air force base
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that they don't know
what to do with.
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When Woodstock Ventures
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first approached us,
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I recognized and realized
that this was an opportunity
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for the big event
that a community
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could put their arms around.
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Bottom line is,
we wanna encourage people
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to buy some tickets
and come to Rome, NY
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the weekend of the 22nd.
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It's gonna be a memorable,
exciting experience.
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Five years earlier, we lost
the air force base here
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which obviously had
an enormous impact
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on this community emotionally.
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It was akin
to economic Armageddon
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because we lost
thousands of jobs
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and thousands of people.
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The base was ideal
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because it had
a lot of infrastructure things
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that we would've
otherwise needed to build.
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Also being
a former military installation,
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it was enclosed.
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Griffiss was well-suited
to make sure
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that people came with tickets,
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for a change.
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And then from
a philosophic perspective,
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if you look at Isaiah
and the old beating swords
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into plow shares,
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well this was planes
into plow shares.
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I can sure remember
the lead up to it,
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and it was really
all anybody could talk about.
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There was a local bar
that was called Stockyard Inn
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and then they changed their name
to The Woodstock Inn.
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So, you know,
everybody was sort of trying
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to get involved and kind of
capitalize on the excitement.
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Hi, I'm Mateo.
I'm from Rome, New York.
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Here at wonderful
Griffiss Air Force Base
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with a bunch of other talented
artists here
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who are working on the mural.
Two miles long,
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going all the way
around this entire park.
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These kids right here
helped me create
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a 500-foot mural
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that's kind of a celebrated,
happy version of a mosh pit.
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It was always our intention
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to do something that was not
your parents' Woodstock.
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It was definitely something
for the kids.
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You know, I had just graduated
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so once I got my money
for graduation
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I didn't really have
much of an excuse.
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It was expensive,
but I'm gonna see
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all these bands,
so it seemed like a no-brainer.
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My friend Dave De Rosia
was the guy
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who was like,
"Let's go to Woodstock."
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My older brother Rob
was next in line
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to join in
and then my younger brother
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and the girl he was dating
at the time wanted to go, too.
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It was gonna be awesome.
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When I saw
the lineup, I was like,
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"Dude, I am going to this."
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Like, I can't imagine
a better lineup
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for the music
that I love right now
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and they're all in one place
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and it's called Woodstock
and I get to go.
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Everybody wanted
to see Kid Rock.
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- DMX.
- Korn. Metallica.
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Insane Clown Posse?
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Oh!
Rage Against the Machine!
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And Limp Bizkit.
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In 1999,
those guys were massive.
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I remember
I had to beg my parents.
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I was working at a pizzeria
and I remember
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being on the phone with him
and being like,
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"Dad, I'll go for you. I mean
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you didn't get to go to '69,
I'll go to '99."
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I mean I'm graduating
like let's just go do this,
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this is gonna be...
like the big send off,
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you know? It's Woodstock.
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One, two, three, four
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♪ Get up, get on up ♪
♪ Get on up ♪
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♪ Stay on the scene ♪
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♪ Get on up, get on up ♪
♪ Like a sex machine ♪
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♪ Get up ♪
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I remember vividly
like coming up over the hill,
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and you're just...
you're blown away, right?
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The thing is huge
and there's people everywhere.
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There's people
dressed ridiculously
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or not dressed at all.
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And I was thinking like,
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"How did this many people
already get in here?"
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- Two lanes, two lanes!
- We got a founder.
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Let's go!
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One day this is gonna be
on some sort of documentary.
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Hey Vince, you got it all?
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Motherfucking Woodstock, baby.
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Security was relatively minimal.
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Especially compared
to the TSA days of today.
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Our friend Andy
wound up making friends
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with the security guards
up front.
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And all the beer that they were
taking away from people
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and all the chairs
that they were taking away
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from people,
are right here right now.
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The peace patrol,
who were monitoring the gates,
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they just kinda looked
in your stuff,
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said, "All right,
you're good to go."
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Which immediately made me think,
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"Wow, I think a bunch of people
have a lot of drugs here."
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We expanded Woodstock '99
by the pay-per-view
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and the MTV coverage.
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People running around
topless and...
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In those days,
MTV held the heartbeat
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of the younger generation
in their palm.
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When we performed,
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it was like 1000 degrees.
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Somehow, the way my mind worked,
was that
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the fact that the sweater
I had on didn't have sleeves
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was going to...
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like that was gonna make
a difference
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in the temperature on stage.
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I remember it being really hot
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and I remember a lot of chaos,
a lot of confusion.
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People didn't know where
they were supposed to go
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and there was a lot
of white men.
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A lot of white boys
I should say.
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It felt really young.
Lotta of white boys
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wearing backwards baseball caps.
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Our hopes are that people have
as good time this weekend
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as they did at Saugerties
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and as they did in 1969
in Bethel.
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I think this is
a better facility
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than any place we've been.
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So we think that this has
the potential to be, you know,
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one of the best things
we've ever done.
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And be an incredible weekend
for everybody who joins us.
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So, given
the distance between the stages,
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any advice for people
who are here for the music?
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's true. It's about
two-thirds of a mile.
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And in fact
we have over a 100 acts,
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so you're not gonna be able
to see everything.
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There's a tremendous amount
to do,
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you're not gonna
run out of things to do.
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You can go 24 hours a day,
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we're open all day
and all night.
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We've designed
a number of things in addition
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to the two main stages.
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There's an emerging
artist stage,
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there's the rave for those
who like to stay up all night
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and are more nocturnal
than I am.
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There is the 24-hour-a-day
film festival,
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there's the sports park,
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there are a lot
of not-for-profit booths
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that political conversation
and dialogue can take place.
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This is already very much
taken shape of its own city.
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I mean, you had two main stages
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that were a mile
from each other.
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They're on a black tarmac
in the middle of nowhere.
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I mean, think about the irony
of Woodstock on a military base.
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The appeal
of Griffiss for the organizers
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was that it was a place
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that would be really hard
to gate-crash
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because the peace wall.
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And really, I mean, like
if we're talking about peace
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is a wall, like,
a great metaphor for that?
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Woodstock '69
was about trying to show
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that there was a better way
for people to treat each other.
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With more compassion
and more understanding
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and given the opportunity,
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people will behave that way,
will show their better self.
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And then, I mean,
what could be better,
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just not being hassled
by anyone, smoking a joint
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under the stars
listening to great music?
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Michael Lang is who I call
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the Willie Wonka of Woodstock.
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He's this guy
who's eternally boyish,
283
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he's presiding
over this fantasy land
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that every generation of kids
wants to visit.
285
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But if you spend
more than a couple minutes
286
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at the chocolate factory,
you realize that
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it's not the idyllic utopia
that it presents itself to be.
288
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The thing
about the Woodstock mythology is
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I feel like people
are being selective
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about how they're choosing
to remember
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what happened,
to suit their own ends.
292
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And the way in which we choose
to romanticize,
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it has everything to do
with who is telling stories.
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Unlike the prevailing lore
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would have it,
Woodstock '69 was anything
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but peace, love and, you know,
three days
297
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of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll.
298
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It was a mess, there were riots.
299
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The US Army
had to airlift supplies in.
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People died.
301
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Really, it's out of sheer luck
302
00:14:13,365 --> 00:14:15,907
that it didn't end up
worse than it did.
303
00:14:15,991 --> 00:14:18,407
And there's really some
very near disasters
304
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that happened
at the original Woodstock
305
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that nobody remembers now.
306
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For instance,
there was this group called
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the Up Against
the Wall Motherfuckers,
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who were upset about
how much was being charged
309
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for food at the festival.
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So they set fire
to like a dozen food stands.
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The problem is that
instead of learning
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from the mistakes
that were made,
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we instead created
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this romanticized mythology
in the form of the documentary.
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People watched the film
and they chose to believe
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that that's the way
it really was.
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♪ And to love ♪
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♪ A god and to fear a flame ♪
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♪ And to burn ♪
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♪ A crowd that has a name ♪
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♪ And to right or wrong ♪
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♪ And to weak or strong ♪
323
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♪ It is known ♪
324
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♪ Just scream it from the wall ♪
325
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And we ran around
just taking it all in,
326
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everybody's fired up.
327
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The music is great.
The fans are great.
328
00:15:28,907 --> 00:15:31,949
What band you here to see?
- Metallica baby, yeah!
329
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My friend Dave
wanted to see Metallica.
330
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That was his mission.
331
00:15:36,615 --> 00:15:39,407
And he was keeping a journal
the whole weekend.
332
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"Add Live to the bands seen.
333
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Very good.
And Jamiroquai, not good.
334
00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,157
I waited for people
to get me a Coke.
335
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,449
Listened to a horrible set
by Andy Dick."
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Here's my big fat fucking hit!
337
00:15:54,991 --> 00:15:56,824
"Also met Mario,
338
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nice guy, but I got the feeling
he was beat.
339
00:15:59,490 --> 00:16:02,949
I, on the other hand,
am doing okay, but tired.
340
00:16:03,032 --> 00:16:06,282
I think we're going to head back
to catch Korn and Bush.
341
00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:07,574
I'll let you know.
342
00:16:07,657 --> 00:16:10,323
Also boob count is too high
to keep counting.
343
00:16:10,407 --> 00:16:12,574
I think we're at around 11,
or 14."
344
00:16:12,657 --> 00:16:15,782
There you go Woodstock baby, '99!
345
00:16:23,657 --> 00:16:24,991
I came here with three guys.
346
00:16:25,073 --> 00:16:26,365
And I didn't remember
where the tent was.
347
00:16:26,449 --> 00:16:27,782
I had only been here
like an hour.
348
00:16:27,866 --> 00:16:29,949
This section is for anybody
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00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,741
who is lost
or is seeking somebody else.
350
00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:33,574
Hey, I'm looking
for a friend of mine.
351
00:16:33,657 --> 00:16:37,615
I brought him here yesterday
and lost him, and he's 65.
352
00:16:37,699 --> 00:16:39,574
It is crazy to think about it.
353
00:16:39,657 --> 00:16:42,282
Nobody had a cellphone.
Like, or if they did,
354
00:16:42,365 --> 00:16:44,574
they were very few
and far between.
355
00:16:44,657 --> 00:16:46,824
Back then, you really had no way
356
00:16:46,907 --> 00:16:48,699
of getting in touch
with somebody,
357
00:16:48,782 --> 00:16:49,866
finding somebody.
358
00:16:51,157 --> 00:16:57,073
It was massive, so it's not easy
to find people if you get lost.
359
00:16:57,157 --> 00:16:59,907
Have you got a moment?
360
00:16:59,991 --> 00:17:01,615
- We lost her...
- We lost her...
361
00:17:01,699 --> 00:17:03,866
- and now, she's found.
- and now, she's found.
362
00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,407
I can have fun at Woodstock now.
363
00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:14,657
Ladies and gentlemen
of Woodstock,
364
00:17:14,741 --> 00:17:17,449
a special treat for you all.
365
00:17:17,532 --> 00:17:19,615
The Backstreet Boys!
366
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♪ Backstreet's back all right ♪
367
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At MTV,
there was like a tug of war
368
00:17:27,782 --> 00:17:29,657
for the TRL charts at the time.
369
00:17:29,741 --> 00:17:31,615
It was the Disney teens
370
00:17:31,699 --> 00:17:34,240
versus the filthy boys
in cargo shorts.
371
00:17:34,323 --> 00:17:36,240
And it went that way
for a couple of years.
372
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And Woodstock '99
was sort of at,
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like, the pinnacle of that.
374
00:17:40,365 --> 00:17:42,115
All right,
you guys ready for this?
375
00:17:50,866 --> 00:17:53,741
1999 was an interesting time
376
00:17:53,824 --> 00:17:57,615
because the stage was set
for something new to happen.
377
00:17:57,699 --> 00:18:02,073
And what did happen
was teen pop.
378
00:18:02,157 --> 00:18:05,073
NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys
and Britney and Christina
379
00:18:05,157 --> 00:18:08,699
and all of them were,
like, at the top of the charts.
380
00:18:08,782 --> 00:18:10,115
And, as a reaction,
381
00:18:10,198 --> 00:18:12,490
there was all this
sort of weird,
382
00:18:12,574 --> 00:18:15,741
rap inflected,
aggressive rock music.
383
00:18:15,824 --> 00:18:17,323
And now falling
out of the number one spot,
384
00:18:17,407 --> 00:18:18,824
back to number three today,
here is Korn
385
00:18:18,907 --> 00:18:20,407
with "Freak on a Leash."
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00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,157
In the moment, TRL became
387
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,323
that cultural touch point
for teenagers,
388
00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:28,490
it was must-see TV.
We had all this inner-genre
389
00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:30,657
of music melding together
in an hour
390
00:18:30,741 --> 00:18:31,866
where that would
never have happened
391
00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:33,240
even a few years ago.
392
00:18:33,323 --> 00:18:35,323
At the time
it felt like it's awesome,
393
00:18:35,407 --> 00:18:37,157
like TRL is a place
like the United Nations,
394
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,449
like we all come together,
395
00:18:38,532 --> 00:18:40,490
everybody coexisted
sort of magically.
396
00:18:40,574 --> 00:18:42,198
But looking back on it now,
397
00:18:42,282 --> 00:18:45,198
you realize that we were really
probably playing with fire.
398
00:18:45,282 --> 00:18:47,949
I'm sick of the
Backstreet Boys on MTV Live.
399
00:18:48,032 --> 00:18:49,198
I'm sick of that.
400
00:18:49,282 --> 00:18:51,824
- You know, it's fucking.
- Don't hold back on me.
401
00:18:51,907 --> 00:18:54,574
- I'm not holding back.
- I hate that.
402
00:18:54,657 --> 00:18:56,240
It was a weird time for MTV
403
00:18:56,323 --> 00:18:57,407
because it seemed like
404
00:18:57,490 --> 00:18:59,907
their reputation changed,
their brand changed.
405
00:18:59,991 --> 00:19:01,991
The average viewer,
it seemed like,
406
00:19:02,073 --> 00:19:04,198
dropped five years overnight,
407
00:19:04,282 --> 00:19:05,991
where it had once been
408
00:19:06,073 --> 00:19:08,449
kind of a counterculture-y
kind of a place,
409
00:19:08,532 --> 00:19:10,532
suddenly it was like,
there's Nick Jr.
410
00:19:10,615 --> 00:19:12,198
and Nickelodeon and then MTV.
411
00:19:12,282 --> 00:19:16,449
And Carson definitely got such
a combination
412
00:19:16,532 --> 00:19:18,240
of like rage and jealousy
413
00:19:18,323 --> 00:19:20,949
because he was, you know,
at the center of it.
414
00:19:21,032 --> 00:19:24,449
So, I've never been more happy
to be overshadowed
415
00:19:24,532 --> 00:19:26,282
by someone
than I was that weekend.
416
00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:31,574
Awesome this right here,
417
00:19:31,657 --> 00:19:34,198
is Woodstock '99 at its finest.
418
00:19:34,282 --> 00:19:37,407
From the second we got there,
419
00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:39,365
immediately we knew
420
00:19:39,449 --> 00:19:42,574
this is not a crowd
that wants us here. At all.
421
00:19:42,657 --> 00:19:43,699
They were mad at us
422
00:19:43,782 --> 00:19:45,157
because we took their MTV away
423
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,282
and gave it
to their little sister.
424
00:19:47,365 --> 00:19:49,240
We were in trouble.
425
00:19:55,532 --> 00:19:58,532
Growing up, Woodstock in 1969
426
00:19:58,615 --> 00:20:03,198
figured more prominently
as like a cultural touchstone
427
00:20:03,282 --> 00:20:06,615
than anything else in my life.
428
00:20:06,699 --> 00:20:09,282
I can't think of anything else
that even competed
429
00:20:09,365 --> 00:20:10,657
with Woodstock
430
00:20:10,741 --> 00:20:17,032
for cultural significance
in the '70s, into the '80s,
431
00:20:17,115 --> 00:20:21,574
which is why when I got asked
to perform in '99,
432
00:20:21,657 --> 00:20:22,699
I jumped at the chance
433
00:20:22,782 --> 00:20:25,866
because it was
just such an iconic name.
434
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,907
I mean, you think of everybody
who performed
435
00:20:30,991 --> 00:20:33,782
and like the number of times
I've like watched the movies
436
00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,615
and listened
to the soundtrack recording,
437
00:20:36,699 --> 00:20:39,615
and you realized it made it seem
even more magical,
438
00:20:39,699 --> 00:20:41,574
like that it happened at all.
439
00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:44,407
Like, everything that could have
gone wrong went wrong.
440
00:20:45,449 --> 00:20:47,615
But somehow it worked...
441
00:20:48,907 --> 00:20:52,657
like it was
as idyllic and utopian
442
00:20:52,741 --> 00:20:55,323
as a gathering
of 500,000 or more people
443
00:20:55,407 --> 00:20:57,365
has ever been in human history.
444
00:20:57,449 --> 00:20:59,323
And I know that sounds like
an exaggeration,
445
00:20:59,407 --> 00:21:00,657
but it really isn't.
446
00:21:10,907 --> 00:21:12,824
Problem was,
447
00:21:12,907 --> 00:21:16,198
see there's a little expression
of ATD, attention to detail.
448
00:21:16,282 --> 00:21:18,198
My name wasn't on the piece
of plywood.
449
00:21:18,282 --> 00:21:19,490
And there's this little piece
of plywood
450
00:21:19,574 --> 00:21:21,115
that welcomes you
when you come in.
451
00:21:21,198 --> 00:21:22,407
- And all the artists signed...
- And all the artists' names
452
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:23,657
are on the piece of plywood
and my name
453
00:21:23,741 --> 00:21:25,198
wasn't on the piece of plywood
and I...
454
00:21:26,365 --> 00:21:27,991
Who's ever even
heard of these bands?
455
00:21:28,073 --> 00:21:29,198
All have been slashed...
456
00:21:29,282 --> 00:21:30,532
Okay, let's find bands
we've never even heard of.
457
00:21:30,615 --> 00:21:33,657
Spitfire, Our Lady Peace,
The Umbilical Brothers.
458
00:21:34,741 --> 00:21:36,157
What's that one
that starts with an "O?"
459
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,157
Buckcherry. Oleander.
Buckcherry.
460
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,323
I remember.
I looked at the lineup
461
00:21:41,407 --> 00:21:43,365
and I was like, "What is this?"
462
00:21:43,449 --> 00:21:45,365
like, "How did this happen?
463
00:21:45,449 --> 00:21:47,741
How is this called Woodstock?"
464
00:21:47,824 --> 00:21:49,240
It would have made
so much more sense
465
00:21:49,323 --> 00:21:50,657
if it had been called like,
466
00:21:50,741 --> 00:21:54,782
Army Base Rock '99,
featuring Limp Bizkit.
467
00:21:58,073 --> 00:22:01,282
There is a sixth sense
that you develop
468
00:22:01,365 --> 00:22:02,532
when you spend your life, like,
469
00:22:02,615 --> 00:22:04,574
going to nightclubs,
going to venues.
470
00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,407
Like, I can tell you
a hundred feet away
471
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:09,782
what the energy in that venue
is gonna be like.
472
00:22:09,866 --> 00:22:13,240
You develop it after decades
of being around venues.
473
00:22:13,323 --> 00:22:15,449
We got off the bus
and I was like,
474
00:22:15,532 --> 00:22:19,157
"Something's not right,"
and this was the first day.
475
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,741
And I was just like,
something...
476
00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:22,073
You could just tell.
477
00:22:22,157 --> 00:22:25,157
And, like, I started walking
through the crowd,
478
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,198
and like everybody was angry,
and everybody was hot,
479
00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:30,991
and everybody was complaining.
480
00:22:31,073 --> 00:22:33,907
And it had only been open
for six hours.
481
00:22:33,991 --> 00:22:36,407
And it was already
off the rails.
482
00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:40,741
I need everybody who can see me
483
00:22:40,824 --> 00:22:43,782
to put your motherfucking "X" s
in the air.
484
00:22:46,407 --> 00:22:48,240
Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about.
485
00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:50,699
Woodstock, where you at?
486
00:22:52,824 --> 00:22:54,824
Where ya at?
487
00:22:57,991 --> 00:23:02,032
DMX, at that time,
he was, you know, very much
488
00:23:02,115 --> 00:23:05,449
- a man of the people.
- Is it on?
489
00:23:07,198 --> 00:23:09,991
Is it on?
490
00:23:10,866 --> 00:23:12,407
So I think he had a persona
491
00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:14,741
that was very accessible.
492
00:23:14,824 --> 00:23:18,615
His performance at Woodstock
was unparalleled.
493
00:23:18,699 --> 00:23:22,073
I mean, I feel like he's a man
possessed in front of, you know,
494
00:23:22,157 --> 00:23:23,824
hundreds of thousands
of people and,
495
00:23:23,907 --> 00:23:25,282
I mean, that stage was huge.
496
00:23:25,365 --> 00:23:27,615
You know, the fact that
he was able to sort of navigate
497
00:23:27,699 --> 00:23:29,824
and to own it, I think it speaks
498
00:23:29,907 --> 00:23:33,323
to what the moment
meant for him.
499
00:23:33,407 --> 00:23:38,824
- Oh-ho! Oh-ho!
- Oh-ho! Oh-ho!
500
00:23:38,907 --> 00:23:40,490
It's call-and-response, right?
501
00:23:40,574 --> 00:23:43,907
This is a classic,
black gospel way
502
00:23:43,991 --> 00:23:46,657
of communicating in music form.
503
00:23:46,741 --> 00:23:48,198
The preacher says something
504
00:23:48,282 --> 00:23:50,407
the congregation knows
what to say in response.
505
00:23:51,615 --> 00:23:54,073
♪ You won't take this
from me, baby ♪
506
00:23:54,157 --> 00:23:58,407
♪ You will not take this
from me, baby ♪
507
00:23:58,490 --> 00:24:01,699
♪ Come on, come on, come on
My niggas ♪
508
00:24:01,782 --> 00:24:03,282
♪ Some niggas that you don't wanna try ♪
509
00:24:03,365 --> 00:24:06,323
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Some niggas that's really do or die ♪
510
00:24:06,407 --> 00:24:08,824
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Will have you cowards ready to cry ♪
511
00:24:08,907 --> 00:24:10,282
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Will fry ♪
512
00:24:10,365 --> 00:24:11,991
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Will rob ♪
513
00:24:12,073 --> 00:24:13,365
You could hear it.
514
00:24:13,449 --> 00:24:14,907
You can hear
thousands of people.
515
00:24:14,991 --> 00:24:17,699
He says it,
and it comes back at him
516
00:24:17,782 --> 00:24:19,115
at twice the intensity.
517
00:24:19,198 --> 00:24:20,741
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Is God ♪
518
00:24:20,824 --> 00:24:22,323
- ♪ My niggas ♪
- ♪ Will shine ♪
519
00:24:22,407 --> 00:24:24,824
And what's so chilling
about it is
520
00:24:24,907 --> 00:24:26,532
they were ready to do it!
521
00:24:26,615 --> 00:24:29,866
They were like hoping
that he would do this song.
522
00:24:29,949 --> 00:24:31,657
- ♪ My niggas, my niggas ♪
- ♪ Is fine ♪
523
00:24:31,741 --> 00:24:34,532
You have to understand
this sort of thing
524
00:24:34,615 --> 00:24:38,365
wasn't happening
on a regular basis in 1999.
525
00:24:38,449 --> 00:24:41,365
There weren't a lot of occasions
for black rappers
526
00:24:41,449 --> 00:24:45,699
to command a crowd exclusively
almost of white people,
527
00:24:45,782 --> 00:24:49,032
where the black performer
is essentially licensing
528
00:24:49,115 --> 00:24:52,949
the people in the crowd
to say this word with him.
529
00:24:53,073 --> 00:24:54,574
- ♪ Is dogs ♪
- ♪ My nigga ♪
530
00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,574
Where you at, baby?
531
00:24:58,657 --> 00:25:01,240
To perform a thing
that they don't believe.
532
00:25:01,323 --> 00:25:03,907
Or maybe they do believe it,
but if you were to ask them
533
00:25:03,991 --> 00:25:07,198
what they believe, if you got
each one of these guys
534
00:25:07,282 --> 00:25:09,115
after the show and pulled
each one of them show aside
535
00:25:09,198 --> 00:25:11,949
and say, "Is it okay
to say the N-word
536
00:25:12,032 --> 00:25:13,574
under any circumstances?"
537
00:25:13,657 --> 00:25:16,365
They would, to a person, say,
538
00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:18,991
"I mean the right answer is no.
Right?"
539
00:25:22,991 --> 00:25:25,574
And so I'm wondering,
what is it like
540
00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:27,907
for the other black people
in a moment like this.
541
00:25:27,991 --> 00:25:29,407
What are they thinking?
542
00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:30,699
If they went with friends
543
00:25:30,782 --> 00:25:32,949
who they didn't think
were N-word sayers
544
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:34,490
under any circumstances,
545
00:25:34,574 --> 00:25:36,907
what were those friendships
like? What happened?
546
00:25:36,991 --> 00:25:38,782
I mean,
what was the racial dynamic
547
00:25:38,866 --> 00:25:41,782
for the few non-white people
who were there?
548
00:25:41,866 --> 00:25:44,615
And imagine
being a non-white woman,
549
00:25:44,699 --> 00:25:46,532
what that experience
was like for you.
550
00:25:50,574 --> 00:25:54,115
Rosie Perez!
551
00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:08,449
Aw, come on now.
552
00:26:08,532 --> 00:26:11,032
How are y'all feeling out there?
553
00:26:13,949 --> 00:26:14,991
So...
554
00:26:17,365 --> 00:26:19,574
I ain't showing you all shit!
555
00:26:23,991 --> 00:26:24,991
All right.
556
00:26:25,073 --> 00:26:26,824
There was a local radio station
557
00:26:26,907 --> 00:26:30,157
that rolled in
with a little trailer
558
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,157
and they had two naked girls
or topless girls on top,
559
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,824
so it had this anachronistic,
like Girls Gone Wild vibe.
560
00:26:39,115 --> 00:26:41,157
Sometimes
there's an abundance of things,
561
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,282
and sometimes there's a lack.
562
00:26:44,365 --> 00:26:47,615
Today,
there's an abundance of titties.
563
00:26:50,949 --> 00:26:53,907
If you look back,
the Girls Gone Wild cohort
564
00:26:53,991 --> 00:26:58,073
was a sort of reaction
to the first part of the decade.
565
00:26:58,157 --> 00:27:00,198
It was like "Girls, like, no.
Know your place.
566
00:27:00,282 --> 00:27:01,365
You're sex objects
567
00:27:01,449 --> 00:27:04,198
and you're supposed
to be pretty and shut up."
568
00:27:04,282 --> 00:27:06,657
I think that
there's a generation of girls
569
00:27:06,741 --> 00:27:08,866
that were brought up
looking at Girls Gone Wild
570
00:27:08,949 --> 00:27:11,824
and thinking "Wow, this is what
I'm supposed to be doing.
571
00:27:11,907 --> 00:27:16,073
This is how real girls get men."
572
00:27:16,157 --> 00:27:18,282
There was just a feeling of,
573
00:27:18,365 --> 00:27:21,198
"Let's put these girls back
where they belong,
574
00:27:21,282 --> 00:27:23,365
in their cages, in their boxes
575
00:27:23,449 --> 00:27:25,907
and let's show everyone
who's boss."
576
00:27:28,115 --> 00:27:29,866
When you watch the pay-per-view
577
00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:31,407
of Woodstock '99,
578
00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:33,699
it's pretty clear
that the cameramen
579
00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:37,365
are seeking out as much
female nudity as possible.
580
00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:40,657
Okay, I think you've looked
at the breasts long enough now,
581
00:27:40,741 --> 00:27:42,449
can you just move along now?
582
00:27:43,282 --> 00:27:44,741
And, it just seems like,
583
00:27:44,824 --> 00:27:46,490
if you're selling
this pay-per-view
584
00:27:46,574 --> 00:27:49,741
to a young audience that's part
of what you're selling.
585
00:27:49,824 --> 00:27:53,407
So the degree to which
exploitation of women
586
00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:57,157
was not only excused
but formalized
587
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,449
and made part
of the business plan
588
00:27:59,532 --> 00:28:02,699
of Woodstock '99, that certainly
created an environment
589
00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:05,323
where people felt
that exploiting women,
590
00:28:05,407 --> 00:28:09,032
abusing women, hurting women,
was gonna be okay.
591
00:28:09,115 --> 00:28:10,115
And you could get away with it
592
00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:12,282
if that's something
you wanted to do.
593
00:28:12,365 --> 00:28:16,991
In 1999, we were
still dealing with the fallout
594
00:28:17,073 --> 00:28:19,449
from
the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal,
595
00:28:19,532 --> 00:28:23,699
where Bill Clinton drove a truck
over her in trying to wiggle out
596
00:28:23,782 --> 00:28:27,115
of what had actually happened.
She was disposable essentially.
597
00:28:27,198 --> 00:28:29,449
I mean,
we were disposing of women
598
00:28:29,532 --> 00:28:31,407
left and right at that point.
599
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:33,615
So you've got
your Maxim subscription.
600
00:28:33,699 --> 00:28:36,282
FHM. You've got
Girls Gone Wild.
601
00:28:36,365 --> 00:28:39,449
And it just feels like
women are basically there
602
00:28:39,532 --> 00:28:41,699
to just be sexy for men.
603
00:28:43,866 --> 00:28:46,282
It's only fair, you know,
they're gonna do it to us.
604
00:28:46,365 --> 00:28:48,198
It's only fair. That's right.
605
00:28:51,282 --> 00:28:53,407
Unlike '94,
606
00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:57,866
there were so many naked women
walking in the fields,
607
00:28:57,949 --> 00:29:00,574
that you couldn't count it.
608
00:29:00,657 --> 00:29:04,365
I think we've pretty much
taken over Woodstock '99, so.
609
00:29:06,032 --> 00:29:08,198
It was the most promiscuous
610
00:29:08,866 --> 00:29:11,032
of my lifetime, you know.
611
00:29:11,115 --> 00:29:14,824
I don't see shows with
naked women running around,
612
00:29:14,907 --> 00:29:16,157
you know, anymore.
613
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,615
- Woodstock '99!
- Woodstock '99!
614
00:29:21,615 --> 00:29:23,866
And, you know, you gotta think
615
00:29:23,949 --> 00:29:25,032
you probably got an audience
616
00:29:25,115 --> 00:29:27,907
of an average age
in their early 20s.
617
00:29:27,991 --> 00:29:32,490
Guys in their early 20s
tend to be horny 24 hours a day.
618
00:29:33,741 --> 00:29:38,490
Because of this MTV
spring break feeling in the air,
619
00:29:38,574 --> 00:29:41,782
you know, there was some people
who were disrespectful.
620
00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,407
Five-year plan!
Oh, I will be back again.
621
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:49,866
There was a definite
hyper sexuality to that time.
622
00:29:49,949 --> 00:29:53,657
Girls Gone Wild,
porn was in the mainstream,
623
00:29:53,741 --> 00:29:56,866
but that isn't an excuse
for some dipshit
624
00:29:56,949 --> 00:29:59,782
to grab a girl's titty
when she's coming up over the pit.
625
00:30:01,615 --> 00:30:02,699
No artist wants that,
626
00:30:02,782 --> 00:30:04,615
no one sits there and goes,
"Oh, look at that."
627
00:30:04,699 --> 00:30:07,240
It's disgusting. It's not cool.
628
00:30:07,323 --> 00:30:08,699
And then that's
when you get pissed
629
00:30:08,782 --> 00:30:11,032
that you'll call out a fan,
that can beat that guy's ass.
630
00:30:11,115 --> 00:30:13,240
I'll get in trouble
and sued for it,
631
00:30:13,323 --> 00:30:14,991
beat that motherfucker's ass
right there.
632
00:30:15,073 --> 00:30:18,615
"You. You just did that."
633
00:30:21,407 --> 00:30:23,198
All right, thanks a lot!
634
00:30:23,282 --> 00:30:25,365
Hey, are you guys
having a good time?
635
00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:28,323
All right!
636
00:30:28,407 --> 00:30:30,907
Goddamn it,
I'm having a good time.
637
00:30:30,991 --> 00:30:32,365
But you know what,
I was noticing something
638
00:30:32,449 --> 00:30:34,699
I gotta call your guys attention
to here for just a second.
639
00:30:34,782 --> 00:30:36,282
I've been noticing
that there's a lot of girls
640
00:30:36,365 --> 00:30:38,824
coming over to the top here,
crowd surfing,
641
00:30:38,907 --> 00:30:40,407
and they're getting
really groped,
642
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:41,699
you know what I mean?
643
00:30:43,157 --> 00:30:45,073
Now I think just 'cause a girl
644
00:30:45,157 --> 00:30:46,866
wants to go
crowd surfing or whatever,
645
00:30:46,949 --> 00:30:49,240
that doesn't give a guy
the right to molest them,
646
00:30:49,323 --> 00:30:53,032
you know what I'm saying?
647
00:30:53,115 --> 00:30:55,532
So if you're a guy and you see
a girl passing overhead,
648
00:30:55,615 --> 00:30:58,657
give her a break, all right,
you know what I'm saying?
649
00:30:58,741 --> 00:31:02,032
And if you're a girl and you see
a guy passing overhead,
650
00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:04,615
I want you to grab
his fucking balls!
651
00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:13,032
♪ La, la, la, la, la ♪
652
00:31:13,741 --> 00:31:15,574
"Friday, July 23rd.
653
00:31:15,657 --> 00:31:17,782
Caught the tail end
of Offspring.
654
00:31:17,866 --> 00:31:19,407
More naked boobs.
655
00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:21,032
It's kind of getting old.
656
00:31:21,699 --> 00:31:25,073
Outlook for a shower, not good.
657
00:31:25,157 --> 00:31:27,866
Tomorrow's goal
get on the Woodstock video
658
00:31:27,949 --> 00:31:29,449
by being in the Metallica pit."
659
00:31:29,532 --> 00:31:30,782
All right, now do me a favor
660
00:31:30,866 --> 00:31:32,323
and sing along to this one,
all right?
661
00:31:32,407 --> 00:31:34,115
"Rock on!"
662
00:31:34,198 --> 00:31:37,782
♪ I wrote her off
For the tenth time today ♪
663
00:31:37,866 --> 00:31:38,866
We are on the first day
664
00:31:38,949 --> 00:31:41,073
and it wasn't even quite
nighttime yet.
665
00:31:41,157 --> 00:31:44,699
And, I mean, I like rowdy shows
like that's a lot of the fun
666
00:31:44,782 --> 00:31:46,240
is the energy of the crowd
and stuff,
667
00:31:46,323 --> 00:31:48,782
and you could feel
something bubbling
668
00:31:48,866 --> 00:31:50,490
I can't quite put my finger
on it, but...
669
00:31:50,574 --> 00:31:52,657
It was all the shit
being thrown up on stage.
670
00:31:52,741 --> 00:31:54,782
- Oh, yeah, that kinda...
- And I don't think we even asked
671
00:31:54,866 --> 00:31:55,991
- for it, I mean...
- That's a tip-off.
672
00:31:56,073 --> 00:31:59,615
♪ That's okay, man,
'Cause I like the abuse ♪
673
00:31:59,699 --> 00:32:03,949
♪ I know she's playing with me ♪
674
00:32:04,032 --> 00:32:06,824
♪ That's okay 'cause I got
No self-esteem ♪
675
00:32:06,907 --> 00:32:09,240
It really seemed
like in pop culture,
676
00:32:09,323 --> 00:32:12,824
there's this dark energy
coming from young white males
677
00:32:12,907 --> 00:32:16,907
that entertainment is both
catering to and perpetuating.
678
00:32:16,991 --> 00:32:18,323
We've all been
raised on television
679
00:32:18,407 --> 00:32:20,574
to believe that one day
we'd be all millionaires,
680
00:32:20,657 --> 00:32:24,073
and movie gods, and rock stars
but we won't.
681
00:32:25,365 --> 00:32:26,907
We're slowly learning that fact.
682
00:32:28,323 --> 00:32:31,240
And we're very, very pissed off.
683
00:32:31,323 --> 00:32:33,032
At the end of the millennium,
684
00:32:33,115 --> 00:32:37,115
a lot of movies marketed
toward young people with anger
685
00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:39,866
and with what is sexual assault.
686
00:32:39,949 --> 00:32:41,449
And we thought
nothing of it at the time.
687
00:32:41,532 --> 00:32:43,741
It was boys and girls alike
688
00:32:43,824 --> 00:32:45,782
clapped at the end of the movie,
and that was that.
689
00:32:47,115 --> 00:32:48,824
You know,
you've got this festival
690
00:32:48,907 --> 00:32:51,991
that's supposed to be
espousing countercultural,
691
00:32:52,073 --> 00:32:56,699
loftier ideals when the '90s
were anything but that.
692
00:32:56,782 --> 00:33:01,824
So why attempt to manufacture
nostalgia for Woodstock '69,
693
00:33:01,907 --> 00:33:04,449
an event that none
of these kids were alive for?
694
00:33:08,824 --> 00:33:11,615
Hold on.
695
00:33:35,824 --> 00:33:37,574
A theme through the festival
696
00:33:37,657 --> 00:33:39,407
was that artists
kept making echoes
697
00:33:39,490 --> 00:33:41,991
about the original festival
that were completely lost
698
00:33:42,073 --> 00:33:43,490
on those that were there.
699
00:33:43,574 --> 00:33:45,490
Pat, who played
the "Star Spangled Banner"
700
00:33:45,574 --> 00:33:47,115
at the original Woodstock?
701
00:33:48,449 --> 00:33:50,282
- I can't remember.
- Come on, man,
702
00:33:50,365 --> 00:33:52,157
you gotta work with me here.
Try.
703
00:33:53,115 --> 00:33:55,282
Shit, is the name Jerry?
704
00:33:55,365 --> 00:33:57,824
Woodstock was something
that was talked about
705
00:33:57,907 --> 00:34:01,073
but not really like
a part of '90s rock culture.
706
00:34:01,157 --> 00:34:03,282
And '90s rock culture
was booming in a way that made
707
00:34:03,365 --> 00:34:07,115
'60s rock culture seemed trivial
and outdated in a lot of ways.
708
00:34:07,198 --> 00:34:09,490
- Give me an F.
- F!
709
00:34:09,574 --> 00:34:11,782
- Give me a U. Give me a...
- U!
710
00:34:11,866 --> 00:34:14,115
And then when Bush led the crowd
711
00:34:14,198 --> 00:34:16,824
in a F-U-C-K cheer, you know,
712
00:34:16,907 --> 00:34:19,073
that had gotten
Country Joe and the Fish
713
00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:21,991
in so much trouble
back 30 years earlier,
714
00:34:22,073 --> 00:34:24,824
absolutely nobody in the crowd
got that joke
715
00:34:24,907 --> 00:34:27,365
or understood why
it was supposed to be amusing.
716
00:34:59,282 --> 00:35:01,824
So, you know, it's interesting,
717
00:35:01,907 --> 00:35:04,323
going back to the way Nirvana
on Nevermind
718
00:35:04,407 --> 00:35:05,824
with their little parody of,
you know,
719
00:35:05,907 --> 00:35:08,657
"Everybody get together, try
to love one another right now."
720
00:35:08,741 --> 00:35:10,824
♪ Everybody get together ♪
721
00:35:10,907 --> 00:35:15,073
♪ Try to love
One another right now ♪
722
00:35:15,157 --> 00:35:18,032
For the crowd
that was at Woodstock '99,
723
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,449
the idea of Nirvana
and Pearl Jam was as outdated
724
00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:23,449
as seeing Creedence Clearwater Revival
or the Grateful Dead.
725
00:35:23,532 --> 00:35:25,949
You know, it was not something
that was really in sync
726
00:35:26,032 --> 00:35:29,365
with the kids who were there
to see Korn and Limp Bizkit.
727
00:35:38,282 --> 00:35:41,157
♪ Are you ready? ♪
728
00:36:02,949 --> 00:36:07,741
♪ This place inside my mind
A place I like to hide ♪
729
00:36:07,824 --> 00:36:10,615
♪ You don't know the chances ♪
730
00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:13,907
- ♪ What if I should die? ♪
- ♪ A place inside my... ♪
731
00:36:13,991 --> 00:36:16,198
I can't even put it
into words what I was feeling.
732
00:36:16,282 --> 00:36:18,574
I'm feeling numb.
I don't feel anything.
733
00:36:18,657 --> 00:36:21,490
I'm just like in the zone, like,
"Oh my God,
734
00:36:21,574 --> 00:36:23,741
okay, I gotta go out there
and kill this."
735
00:36:23,824 --> 00:36:26,615
And I know for a fact
they're not all Korn fans,
736
00:36:26,699 --> 00:36:28,574
so I gotta win
these fuckers over.
737
00:36:30,991 --> 00:36:32,365
The crowd was so big
that they had
738
00:36:32,449 --> 00:36:35,240
three sets of PAs set up
and they were time aligned,
739
00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:36,741
but you could see
how sound travels
740
00:36:36,824 --> 00:36:38,991
'cause they would jump in time
so that the crowd
741
00:36:39,073 --> 00:36:40,574
would do this wave effect.
742
00:36:40,657 --> 00:36:44,699
After that, I was like, "Fuck,
I don't have... I left my body."
743
00:36:44,782 --> 00:36:47,323
I can't tell you what the fuck
happened after that.
744
00:36:48,699 --> 00:36:53,323
Come on, Woodstock!
745
00:36:54,866 --> 00:36:58,449
I just went as hard
and as intense as I could go
746
00:36:58,532 --> 00:37:01,615
and still sing,
but it was so fucking hot,
747
00:37:01,699 --> 00:37:03,615
I literally collapsed
after the last song.
748
00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:06,282
I walked backstage,
and I fell on the ground.
749
00:37:06,365 --> 00:37:07,741
They put bags of ice all over me
750
00:37:07,824 --> 00:37:09,782
and ran IVs
and put me on oxygen.
751
00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:12,073
I was that... I was gone.
752
00:37:16,866 --> 00:37:19,699
My only goal
is to be front row for Korn,
753
00:37:19,782 --> 00:37:21,699
so I fought my way through
and I remember
754
00:37:21,782 --> 00:37:23,866
thinking to myself,
"Wow there's probably
755
00:37:23,949 --> 00:37:25,574
50,000 people behind me."
756
00:37:30,073 --> 00:37:31,365
And then during the concert,
757
00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,991
I started feeling
a little funny.
758
00:37:33,073 --> 00:37:35,741
I was cold
and I thought to myself,
759
00:37:35,824 --> 00:37:38,240
"It's gotta be
110 degrees out here.
760
00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:39,574
Why am I cold?"
761
00:37:39,657 --> 00:37:43,699
And it dawned on me like,
"Wow, I think have hypothermia."
762
00:37:43,782 --> 00:37:45,991
My body's never felt
this way before
763
00:37:46,073 --> 00:37:48,782
and I said, "I think
I'm in trouble."
764
00:37:51,615 --> 00:37:53,365
I was very near the stage
765
00:37:53,449 --> 00:37:57,032
and like person after person
was like pulled out of the pit.
766
00:38:03,365 --> 00:38:05,866
I worked Hurricane Katrina
767
00:38:05,949 --> 00:38:07,198
and Hurricane Rita
768
00:38:07,282 --> 00:38:10,073
and Hurricane Sandy
but whenever people ask me
769
00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:12,282
about Woodstock '99,
I always say
770
00:38:12,365 --> 00:38:15,574
that it was the greatest disaster
I ever went to.
771
00:38:16,782 --> 00:38:19,699
For any event like this,
environmental concerns
772
00:38:19,782 --> 00:38:22,032
are gonna definitely be
at the forefront,
773
00:38:22,115 --> 00:38:25,032
and the heat
was absolutely atrocious.
774
00:38:25,115 --> 00:38:27,449
So you had to worry
about heat stroke,
775
00:38:27,532 --> 00:38:30,198
heat exhaustion, hyperthermia.
776
00:38:30,282 --> 00:38:33,824
We need to make sure that people
are staying hydrated.
777
00:38:33,907 --> 00:38:36,699
Everybody that was there
was like packed together.
778
00:38:36,782 --> 00:38:39,032
And bodies generate heat
779
00:38:39,115 --> 00:38:40,741
then other bodies
right next to it
780
00:38:40,824 --> 00:38:42,157
are absorbing that heat.
781
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,407
And then they have these
huge runways made of asphalt.
782
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,615
It definitely added to increased
ground temperatures.
783
00:38:49,699 --> 00:38:50,907
Every single night,
784
00:38:50,991 --> 00:38:53,198
we were doing
like a thousand transports
785
00:38:53,282 --> 00:38:55,407
and a lot of them
were just dehydrations
786
00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:57,949
because people didn't have
enough water that day.
787
00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:02,574
I would say 90 percent
of the cases that we saw
788
00:39:02,657 --> 00:39:08,198
were caused by the environment
and the lack of access to water.
789
00:39:08,282 --> 00:39:09,824
The one thing I would say is,
790
00:39:09,907 --> 00:39:12,699
if you don't like heat,
don't come to Woodstock '99.
791
00:39:12,782 --> 00:39:14,240
It is hot.
792
00:39:14,323 --> 00:39:19,198
Please don't come unless
you are prepared to be baked.
793
00:39:19,282 --> 00:39:21,699
- Anything else?
- Okay. Another refreshment coming.
794
00:39:21,782 --> 00:39:23,323
Everything
was pretty highly regulated
795
00:39:23,407 --> 00:39:25,198
with the vendors all the water
had to be sold
796
00:39:25,282 --> 00:39:27,157
for four dollars a bottle,
797
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,615
which, you know, even now
20 years later
798
00:39:29,699 --> 00:39:31,532
is a ridiculous cost.
799
00:39:31,615 --> 00:39:33,323
I couldn't believe
that bottles of water
800
00:39:33,407 --> 00:39:34,907
were four dollars.
I wasn't prepared
801
00:39:34,991 --> 00:39:37,032
to pay four dollars for water.
802
00:39:37,115 --> 00:39:39,699
When the beer
is the same price of water,
803
00:39:39,782 --> 00:39:43,157
as a kid if, if I had a choice,
I would choose the beer, too.
804
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,115
And then on top of that,
the alcohol is actually
805
00:39:45,198 --> 00:39:46,615
dehydrating you further.
806
00:39:46,699 --> 00:39:48,615
There were accounts
807
00:39:48,699 --> 00:39:51,782
that security guards
in searching kids
808
00:39:51,866 --> 00:39:55,282
before they came in
were told, "Under no means
809
00:39:55,365 --> 00:39:57,198
let them come in
with their own food,
810
00:39:57,282 --> 00:39:58,407
their own water."
811
00:39:58,490 --> 00:40:01,615
But when it came to drugs,
the guards were happy
812
00:40:01,699 --> 00:40:04,991
to take a 20 or a 50
to look the other way.
813
00:40:07,365 --> 00:40:10,157
In 1999, I was 23 years old,
814
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,657
and a good friend of mine
called me up one day
815
00:40:12,741 --> 00:40:15,866
and asked me if I wanted
to work security
816
00:40:15,949 --> 00:40:18,073
at Woodstock '99.
817
00:40:18,157 --> 00:40:21,782
The security was hard
to hire. They're a lot of them.
818
00:40:21,866 --> 00:40:23,615
And we had to get licensed ones,
819
00:40:23,699 --> 00:40:26,449
which, you know,
was not that easy.
820
00:40:26,532 --> 00:40:28,949
They had
a three-hour class I had to take
821
00:40:29,032 --> 00:40:31,574
and the instructor
basically spent
822
00:40:31,657 --> 00:40:33,365
the last two hours of the class
823
00:40:33,449 --> 00:40:36,282
going through the test
question by question,
824
00:40:36,365 --> 00:40:38,574
giving the answer
and then at the end of that,
825
00:40:38,657 --> 00:40:41,157
then he handed out the test
and we took it.
826
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,323
It was kind of anyone that,
you know, was semi-lucid
827
00:40:44,407 --> 00:40:46,824
and could write their name
was eligible
828
00:40:46,907 --> 00:40:51,157
to be a security guard
at Woodstock '99.
829
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:56,073
At the gates, we had
our most trusted security guys.
830
00:40:56,157 --> 00:40:58,365
So if somebody was trying
to take money,
831
00:40:58,449 --> 00:41:00,407
it would have got caught.
832
00:41:01,073 --> 00:41:02,824
And with drinking water,
833
00:41:02,907 --> 00:41:06,157
it was unquestionably
lots of free water.
834
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,615
You know, I mean, we worked
835
00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:10,532
with the health department
to create a water system
836
00:41:10,615 --> 00:41:12,699
that would accommodate
everybody who was there.
837
00:41:12,782 --> 00:41:15,866
You didn't have to buy water
if you didn't want to.
838
00:41:15,949 --> 00:41:19,032
Yes, bottles of water
were four dollars.
839
00:41:19,115 --> 00:41:22,073
It was somewhat
on the high side,
840
00:41:22,157 --> 00:41:25,532
but it wasn't as ridiculous
as it got made out to be
841
00:41:25,615 --> 00:41:29,282
and if you're gonna go
to a festival,
842
00:41:29,365 --> 00:41:30,657
you bring money with you.
843
00:41:30,741 --> 00:41:33,907
This was not
a poor man's festival.
844
00:41:34,032 --> 00:41:35,365
What's this line for?
845
00:41:35,449 --> 00:41:36,907
- The ATM machine.
- Yeah.
846
00:41:36,991 --> 00:41:38,365
- The ATM?
- ATM.
847
00:41:38,449 --> 00:41:41,115
We've been waiting
here a long time.
848
00:41:41,198 --> 00:41:43,782
We're 18. I'm working
at a pizzeria for minimum wage.
849
00:41:43,866 --> 00:41:45,824
We're hot, we're sweaty,
we're tired.
850
00:41:45,907 --> 00:41:47,115
We didn't sleep well.
We're not starting
851
00:41:47,198 --> 00:41:48,782
on the best footing
to start our, you know,
852
00:41:48,866 --> 00:41:50,407
three day of adventure,
you know.
853
00:41:50,490 --> 00:41:51,907
Turn on the water!
854
00:41:51,991 --> 00:41:55,699
Dude, what do you think
about the water shortage, man?
855
00:41:55,782 --> 00:41:57,907
- It is fucked up.
- Shit is fucked up, man.
856
00:41:57,991 --> 00:42:00,198
- No more water.
- Let's start a riot.
857
00:42:00,282 --> 00:42:03,032
Woodstock '99, the riots.
858
00:42:03,115 --> 00:42:05,157
I'm a college kid.
I'm 20 years old.
859
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,907
There's a lot of people
that were younger than me.
860
00:42:06,991 --> 00:42:09,032
There's a lot of people
that just like
861
00:42:09,115 --> 00:42:11,032
paid a lot of money
to go to this festival.
862
00:42:16,032 --> 00:42:17,991
You would go
to these little troughs
863
00:42:18,073 --> 00:42:20,449
where you're supposed
to be able to have a drink
864
00:42:20,532 --> 00:42:23,073
and there was people showering
in them.
865
00:42:23,157 --> 00:42:24,323
So, while you just wanted
866
00:42:24,407 --> 00:42:25,949
to like douse your face
with water
867
00:42:26,032 --> 00:42:28,782
or brush your teeth
or do something with water,
868
00:42:28,866 --> 00:42:31,407
there was just people like
full-on showering,
869
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:34,365
you know, shampoo, soap.
870
00:42:34,449 --> 00:42:37,323
And then at some point,
I think somebody busted a pipe
871
00:42:37,407 --> 00:42:40,615
because they were so tired
of waiting for the water.
872
00:42:40,699 --> 00:42:41,949
So, then there was just like,
873
00:42:42,032 --> 00:42:44,657
all this water just going
all over the place
874
00:42:44,741 --> 00:42:46,866
near the campgrounds
and even flowing
875
00:42:46,949 --> 00:42:49,657
into the camp area,
which led to the mud.
876
00:42:52,282 --> 00:42:53,574
The porta potties,
877
00:42:53,657 --> 00:42:56,615
it didn't take long for them
to become pretty much unusable.
878
00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:58,741
They were backing up
pretty quickly
879
00:42:58,824 --> 00:43:01,073
and then the sewage
was seeping out,
880
00:43:01,157 --> 00:43:03,991
to the point where you had kids
881
00:43:04,073 --> 00:43:05,574
within the first 24 hours
882
00:43:05,657 --> 00:43:07,365
rolling around
in what they thought was mud
883
00:43:07,449 --> 00:43:09,949
but was really human waste.
884
00:43:14,615 --> 00:43:16,532
That mud
that these people were in,
885
00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:17,991
as far as I was concerned,
886
00:43:18,073 --> 00:43:20,198
based on what I saw,
it was mud and shit.
887
00:43:20,282 --> 00:43:22,824
So I did see
people covered in that,
888
00:43:22,907 --> 00:43:24,490
thought that was pretty strange,
889
00:43:24,574 --> 00:43:26,657
not a thing I would normally see
where I come from.
890
00:43:26,741 --> 00:43:27,991
We are going on a mission
891
00:43:28,073 --> 00:43:29,532
that nobody has ever gone on.
892
00:43:29,615 --> 00:43:30,782
Oh, you see. You can smell.
893
00:43:30,866 --> 00:43:33,157
- The place is gruesome... Oh!
- Holy shit.
894
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,073
Plumbing, always a challenge
895
00:43:35,157 --> 00:43:36,240
at rock festivals. Again,
896
00:43:36,323 --> 00:43:37,615
this was something
that in the '90s,
897
00:43:37,699 --> 00:43:39,699
people did not think
there was a better way
898
00:43:39,782 --> 00:43:40,991
to do stuff like this.
899
00:43:41,073 --> 00:43:42,741
People, in the future,
900
00:43:43,699 --> 00:43:45,282
worth their weight in gold.
901
00:43:45,365 --> 00:43:46,866
I'm telling you.
902
00:43:46,949 --> 00:43:49,157
So the place
smelled pretty gross
903
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:50,991
by even Friday afternoon.
904
00:43:52,282 --> 00:43:54,657
You know, there's
a festival grounds in Germany.
905
00:43:54,741 --> 00:43:56,866
It was literally built
by Hitler.
906
00:43:56,949 --> 00:43:58,699
And we've played there
a bunch of times,
907
00:43:58,782 --> 00:44:03,365
it's a great venue, lot of fun.
The airbase was less hospitable
908
00:44:03,449 --> 00:44:05,741
than the venue built by Nazis.
909
00:44:15,115 --> 00:44:17,198
Hi, we're with
an organization called PAX,
910
00:44:17,282 --> 00:44:18,532
what we're doing is
we're getting people
911
00:44:18,615 --> 00:44:22,115
to sign these petitions
against gun violence.
912
00:44:22,198 --> 00:44:23,574
It's a good thing.
It's basically trying
913
00:44:23,657 --> 00:44:25,532
to get people to stop
getting guns
914
00:44:25,615 --> 00:44:27,407
in the hands of kids, you know.
915
00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:29,699
We're giving away candles
for the...
916
00:44:29,782 --> 00:44:32,282
the light ceremony
tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
917
00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:34,323
So here, why don't you
just take one as a souvenir
918
00:44:34,407 --> 00:44:35,741
for coming by and seeing us.
919
00:44:35,824 --> 00:44:38,699
And stop by the candle ceremony
at eight o'clock tomorrow night
920
00:44:38,782 --> 00:44:40,365
and I'm sure you'll see
all the candles
921
00:44:40,449 --> 00:44:42,198
that we've given out. Thanks.
922
00:44:44,741 --> 00:44:46,490
♪ Bawitdaba, da bang,
Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪
923
00:44:46,574 --> 00:44:48,741
♪ Said the boogie
Said up jump the boogie ♪
924
00:44:48,824 --> 00:44:51,741
♪ Bawitdaba, da bang
Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪
925
00:44:51,824 --> 00:44:54,824
♪ Said the boogie
Said up jump the boogie ♪
926
00:44:54,907 --> 00:44:57,198
I think about Kid Rock
coming out
927
00:44:57,282 --> 00:44:59,782
in this luxurious,
white fur coat.
928
00:44:59,866 --> 00:45:02,824
If you were looking
for an easy metaphor
929
00:45:02,907 --> 00:45:04,699
to explain the haves
and the have-nots
930
00:45:04,782 --> 00:45:08,407
at Woodstock '99 and in fact,
I think in 1999 in general
931
00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:11,115
to me,
like that sums it up perfectly.
932
00:45:11,198 --> 00:45:13,115
It's a very weird thing
933
00:45:13,198 --> 00:45:14,657
that you see
at the end of the '90s.
934
00:45:14,741 --> 00:45:16,907
There's just this
simmering anger.
935
00:45:16,991 --> 00:45:20,449
And it manifested itself
through sludge and angst.
936
00:45:20,532 --> 00:45:27,032
♪ My name is Kid ♪
937
00:45:28,532 --> 00:45:29,741
♪ Is Kid Rock ♪
938
00:45:29,824 --> 00:45:32,282
♪ Bawitdaba, da bang
Da dang diggy diggy, diggy ♪
939
00:45:32,365 --> 00:45:35,323
The DJ
on stage became a weird trope
940
00:45:35,407 --> 00:45:37,157
and you never really knew
why they were there,
941
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,282
just you would hear a faint
942
00:45:38,365 --> 00:45:39,824
sort of wicky-wicky noise
in the background,
943
00:45:39,907 --> 00:45:42,449
and that was enough to sustain
a whole band member.
944
00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:46,490
It seemed like the kind of thing
that would break down barriers,
945
00:45:46,574 --> 00:45:49,449
you know, hip-hop
and rock would be one thing.
946
00:45:49,532 --> 00:45:51,115
But it really didn't.
947
00:45:51,198 --> 00:45:52,866
If you look at the history
948
00:45:52,949 --> 00:45:56,198
of American music, nu metal
was just bound to happen.
949
00:45:56,282 --> 00:45:58,949
This is a country whose music
was basically forged
950
00:45:59,032 --> 00:46:01,741
in white people
impersonating black people.
951
00:46:01,824 --> 00:46:03,866
It makes all the sense
in the world
952
00:46:03,949 --> 00:46:07,615
that that would wind up
in this sort of swamp
953
00:46:07,699 --> 00:46:11,198
that nu metal basically becomes.
954
00:46:11,282 --> 00:46:13,365
You know, a lot of times
when white people
955
00:46:13,449 --> 00:46:16,490
have embraced hip-hop,
they've ignored the funk,
956
00:46:16,574 --> 00:46:17,699
they've ignored the R&B.
957
00:46:17,782 --> 00:46:19,866
You know,
they've ignored the subtlety
958
00:46:19,949 --> 00:46:22,449
and they've embraced
homophobia and misogyny.
959
00:46:22,532 --> 00:46:26,032
♪ If you don't like Kid Rock
You can suck my dick ♪
960
00:46:26,115 --> 00:46:27,824
The same thing with metal.
961
00:46:27,907 --> 00:46:32,115
There's a lot of wonderful,
celebratory, joyful, fun metal,
962
00:46:32,198 --> 00:46:35,949
but somehow nu metal embraced
the troglodyte elements.
963
00:46:36,032 --> 00:46:39,115
Now listen close.
964
00:46:39,198 --> 00:46:40,407
You want me to get political?
965
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:43,240
Well, this is about as deep
as Kid Rock thinks.
966
00:46:44,282 --> 00:46:46,323
Monica Lewinsky is a fucking hoe
967
00:46:46,407 --> 00:46:48,615
and Bill Clinton
is a goddamn pimp.
968
00:46:52,365 --> 00:46:54,741
And granted
this is over 20 years ago
969
00:46:54,824 --> 00:46:59,032
and I'm still so baffled, like,
how it went from
970
00:46:59,115 --> 00:47:01,490
the sort of progressive
enlightened values
971
00:47:01,574 --> 00:47:04,240
of Kurt Cobain and Michael Stipe
972
00:47:04,323 --> 00:47:07,407
to misogyny and homophobia.
973
00:47:07,490 --> 00:47:13,490
And the rape, frat boy culture
that was at Woodstock '99.
974
00:47:14,824 --> 00:47:18,907
What happened
in the early '90s with Nirvana
975
00:47:18,991 --> 00:47:24,699
was nothing short of
a generational overtaking.
976
00:47:24,782 --> 00:47:26,449
The acts and the artists
977
00:47:26,532 --> 00:47:28,240
that had been dominating
the culture
978
00:47:28,323 --> 00:47:31,741
were wiped off the face
of the planet by Nevermind.
979
00:47:31,824 --> 00:47:36,073
Boy bands, pop music,
hair metal, it was all done.
980
00:47:36,157 --> 00:47:37,991
Nirvana actually gave a voice
981
00:47:38,073 --> 00:47:39,574
to the unrest
that was happening,
982
00:47:39,657 --> 00:47:42,741
that the gatekeepers
of pop culture were not aware of.
983
00:47:42,824 --> 00:47:45,615
And so, Nirvana just cracked
that door open,
984
00:47:45,699 --> 00:47:50,365
and it gave an entire generation
this purpose and connection.
985
00:47:51,574 --> 00:47:54,032
You had bands
that were talking about
986
00:47:54,115 --> 00:47:57,782
feminism and LGBTQ rights
and anti-racism.
987
00:47:57,866 --> 00:48:00,490
And I think a lot of people
looked at rock music and hip-hop
988
00:48:00,574 --> 00:48:02,741
as these things
that could actually
989
00:48:02,824 --> 00:48:04,574
make a difference in the world.
990
00:48:06,198 --> 00:48:08,699
It was a sudden earthquake
991
00:48:08,782 --> 00:48:10,949
in rock and roll and pop culture
992
00:48:11,032 --> 00:48:14,741
in which the boys and the girls
want to level the playing field,
993
00:48:14,824 --> 00:48:18,282
So you have Kurt in a dress,
gender bending.
994
00:48:18,365 --> 00:48:19,615
You have Riot grrrl,
995
00:48:19,699 --> 00:48:22,240
you have the second
most relevant band
996
00:48:22,323 --> 00:48:24,073
of that decade,
The Beastie Boys,
997
00:48:24,157 --> 00:48:27,782
maturing and apologizing
for their sexism and misogyny.
998
00:48:27,866 --> 00:48:30,615
Especially in terms of like
girls becoming empowered
999
00:48:30,699 --> 00:48:32,866
and becoming sure of themselves,
you know.
1000
00:48:32,949 --> 00:48:34,907
If we could help with that,
that was kind of cool.
1001
00:48:34,991 --> 00:48:37,907
And on top of that,
you have this generation
1002
00:48:37,991 --> 00:48:40,699
of young men who really,
1003
00:48:40,782 --> 00:48:44,157
for the first time,
had been raised by moms
1004
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,782
who came of age during
the real first wave of feminism,
1005
00:48:47,866 --> 00:48:49,866
or had been raised
by single moms,
1006
00:48:49,949 --> 00:48:51,490
and so you sort of felt
1007
00:48:51,574 --> 00:48:54,240
that there was
this unprecedented parity
1008
00:48:54,323 --> 00:48:57,699
in this generation
between the boys and the girls.
1009
00:49:01,032 --> 00:49:04,198
But that said,
grunge was very short lived.
1010
00:49:04,282 --> 00:49:08,365
It became commodified
and commercialized so quickly.
1011
00:49:08,449 --> 00:49:11,282
This negative energy
just makes me stronger.
1012
00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:14,907
We will not retreat.
This band is unstoppable.
1013
00:49:14,991 --> 00:49:17,115
And then in April of 1994,
1014
00:49:17,198 --> 00:49:19,073
you have the death
of Kurt Cobain.
1015
00:49:19,157 --> 00:49:23,949
The hope that people had
in the early '90s was gone.
1016
00:49:24,032 --> 00:49:28,365
Then like culture went
from progressive to aggressive.
1017
00:49:28,449 --> 00:49:32,741
It went from inclusive
to violent and misogynistic.
1018
00:49:32,824 --> 00:49:36,157
Honestly, and this might sound
overly simplistic and glib,
1019
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,949
but it was money.
You know, the major labels
1020
00:49:39,032 --> 00:49:43,198
the alternative rocks stations,
MTV, Spin, Rolling Stone
1021
00:49:43,282 --> 00:49:47,198
all of a sudden, they realized
they made more money
1022
00:49:47,282 --> 00:49:49,490
because their demographic
was expanded.
1023
00:49:50,449 --> 00:49:52,866
Our peak started around '99.
1024
00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:55,198
That's when nu metal
came in, too.
1025
00:49:55,282 --> 00:49:59,574
So we were all kinda blowing up
at the same exact time.
1026
00:49:59,657 --> 00:50:03,365
But post grunge, you know
where Creed was born,
1027
00:50:03,449 --> 00:50:07,073
we really had something to say
and we were looking inward,
1028
00:50:07,157 --> 00:50:10,949
really expressing these feelings
of frustration,
1029
00:50:11,032 --> 00:50:14,782
that time in our life
where the idealistic view
1030
00:50:14,866 --> 00:50:19,032
that we had of the world
was crushed and crumbled.
1031
00:50:19,115 --> 00:50:22,073
And then, the nu metal,
took it a step further
1032
00:50:22,157 --> 00:50:24,240
with its angst, this aggression.
1033
00:50:24,323 --> 00:50:27,240
It became the mouthpiece
of the generation
1034
00:50:27,323 --> 00:50:29,991
along with naivety, bravado,
1035
00:50:30,073 --> 00:50:32,240
talking trash, being rebellious
1036
00:50:32,323 --> 00:50:34,699
and I think
that's why it connected.
1037
00:50:34,782 --> 00:50:36,949
There was also
that underlying fear
1038
00:50:37,032 --> 00:50:40,949
of the unknown. The angst,
and anxiety associated
1039
00:50:41,032 --> 00:50:42,282
with just not knowing
1040
00:50:42,365 --> 00:50:44,157
what was gonna happen
at the time
1041
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:45,449
of the new millennia.
1042
00:50:45,532 --> 00:50:49,824
And people needed some way
to sort of exhaust that energy
1043
00:50:49,907 --> 00:50:53,907
and I think that genre of music
provided the perfect vehicle
1044
00:50:53,991 --> 00:50:56,699
for people to just say,
you know, "Fuck it."
1045
00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:58,699
You know these artists,
1046
00:50:58,782 --> 00:51:01,032
they tapped
into something very real
1047
00:51:01,115 --> 00:51:04,449
and something that had been
sort of pushed down
1048
00:51:04,532 --> 00:51:06,407
in the earlier part
of the decade.
1049
00:51:06,490 --> 00:51:09,073
And so I don't necessarily think
1050
00:51:09,157 --> 00:51:12,615
that acts like Korn
or Limp Bizkit
1051
00:51:12,699 --> 00:51:14,741
were fomenting something
in the culture
1052
00:51:14,824 --> 00:51:17,115
that wasn't already there.
1053
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,657
They hated jocks,
loved the internet.
1054
00:51:22,741 --> 00:51:24,782
They were known
as the Trench Coat Mafia,
1055
00:51:24,866 --> 00:51:26,657
question is
why didn't anyone know
1056
00:51:26,741 --> 00:51:27,824
they turned so violent.
1057
00:51:27,907 --> 00:51:29,699
And they, like,
started blowing up
1058
00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:31,782
and shooting everyone
in the cafeteria.
1059
00:51:31,866 --> 00:51:33,991
They are a group
of disenfranchised kids
1060
00:51:34,073 --> 00:51:35,407
that have threatened revenge
1061
00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:37,449
in the past
for kids making fun of them.
1062
00:51:39,574 --> 00:51:41,866
Just three months,
before Woodstock '99
1063
00:51:41,949 --> 00:51:45,073
the school shooting
at Columbine took place.
1064
00:51:45,157 --> 00:51:48,032
And it's such an extreme act
of violence,
1065
00:51:48,115 --> 00:51:50,115
but I think it's an example
of people
1066
00:51:50,198 --> 00:51:52,449
who are really struggling
to be seen.
1067
00:51:52,532 --> 00:51:54,574
And we continue our reporting
on the corrosive effects
1068
00:51:54,657 --> 00:51:57,824
of the popular music world
on some American children.
1069
00:51:57,907 --> 00:52:00,365
We now know
that one of them also posted
1070
00:52:00,449 --> 00:52:02,157
violent lyrics on the internet.
1071
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,198
I think the blaming
of artists, musicians,
1072
00:52:05,282 --> 00:52:07,657
filmmakers. It's all just
political maneuvering
1073
00:52:07,741 --> 00:52:11,240
and an easy way
to misdirect your eye over here
1074
00:52:11,323 --> 00:52:12,532
when the real problems
1075
00:52:12,615 --> 00:52:16,657
are so much more difficult
and really require digging in.
1076
00:52:16,741 --> 00:52:21,615
I think if anyone like Hitler
or Mussolini were alive now,
1077
00:52:21,699 --> 00:52:23,282
they'd have to be rock stars.
1078
00:52:31,532 --> 00:52:32,866
Hey, what's up?
1079
00:52:32,949 --> 00:52:34,365
- Are we doing all right?
- Yeah.
1080
00:52:34,449 --> 00:52:36,407
- Everything going good still?
- Everything's going great man.
1081
00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:38,282
We were just hanging out
with Puff up there, man.
1082
00:52:38,365 --> 00:52:40,657
- He's a cool guy.
- Yo, D!
1083
00:52:40,741 --> 00:52:42,699
- What's up, how you doing?
- What's up, man?
1084
00:52:44,991 --> 00:52:48,240
"Saturday, July 24th, 1999.
1085
00:52:48,323 --> 00:52:49,699
Busy day.
1086
00:52:49,782 --> 00:52:52,490
Just made it back
to the tent for some R&R.
1087
00:52:52,574 --> 00:52:55,907
We saw in this order
Tragically Hip,
1088
00:52:55,991 --> 00:52:57,365
I know why they do so well,
1089
00:52:57,449 --> 00:52:59,741
they bring Canada
to all their shows.
1090
00:52:59,824 --> 00:53:01,907
Kid Rock,
I'm getting that album.
1091
00:53:01,991 --> 00:53:04,490
He played every instrument
during each song.
1092
00:53:04,574 --> 00:53:05,741
That rocks.
1093
00:53:05,824 --> 00:53:08,991
Wyclef Jean
and the Refugee All-Stars.
1094
00:53:09,073 --> 00:53:11,449
I remember saying
of someone's mother once,
1095
00:53:11,532 --> 00:53:13,615
something about nothing nice
to say?
1096
00:53:14,699 --> 00:53:18,157
Counting Crows,
not the same live, but not bad.
1097
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,032
Dave Matthews,
nothing needs to be said.
1098
00:53:23,157 --> 00:53:25,907
My shoes got soaked twice.
Oh, well.
1099
00:53:25,991 --> 00:53:29,198
Now to build up strength,
because I'm going to the pit.
1100
00:53:30,866 --> 00:53:33,866
Hippies beating
on drums down the road.
1101
00:53:33,949 --> 00:53:35,282
Fucking hippies."
1102
00:53:40,115 --> 00:53:42,574
So there were these
trash can drum circles.
1103
00:53:42,657 --> 00:53:45,407
I had never seen anything like
that in my life.
1104
00:53:51,157 --> 00:53:54,615
You would find the most
insane looking characters
1105
00:53:54,699 --> 00:53:56,866
just banging on anything
they could find.
1106
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,699
All day long
for that whole weekend,
1107
00:54:01,782 --> 00:54:04,073
a bunch of people
had taken trash cans
1108
00:54:04,157 --> 00:54:05,991
and tipped them over
and were banging
1109
00:54:06,073 --> 00:54:07,240
on them incessantly.
1110
00:54:07,323 --> 00:54:09,824
Not really in rhythm
just banging, banging, banging.
1111
00:54:09,907 --> 00:54:11,949
And we thought it was kind
of funny
1112
00:54:12,699 --> 00:54:13,907
but we also thought like,
1113
00:54:13,991 --> 00:54:16,157
"Well, I wonder who is going
to put these trash cans
1114
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,490
back over and put them back
where they were."
1115
00:54:18,574 --> 00:54:21,782
Sixty-nine,
'94, a poster for '99.
1116
00:54:22,574 --> 00:54:23,699
Anybody else?
1117
00:54:42,741 --> 00:54:44,666
...up here and you can do this.
1118
00:55:04,073 --> 00:55:08,490
On Saturday, you could see
that we, as a group
1119
00:55:08,574 --> 00:55:10,949
kind of abused the place.
1120
00:55:11,032 --> 00:55:15,198
You have so many people,
not enough receptacles.
1121
00:55:15,282 --> 00:55:18,532
So, like you would expect,
a camping trip, a lot of BO,
1122
00:55:18,615 --> 00:55:21,282
sweat, mud
and garbage everywhere.
1123
00:55:21,365 --> 00:55:23,115
Excrement, you know
it was not good.
1124
00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:25,532
It was not good. A lot of it,
you know.
1125
00:55:25,615 --> 00:55:29,240
Every night I slept
on a pile of pizza boxes.
1126
00:55:29,323 --> 00:55:31,157
Pizza boxes
were very good surface
1127
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,741
to sleep on cause pizza boxes are white
and it's important, because they're white
1128
00:55:34,824 --> 00:55:36,991
you can tell if they've been
urinated on or not
1129
00:55:37,073 --> 00:55:39,073
because every flat surface
there had been
1130
00:55:39,157 --> 00:55:42,824
so thoroughly urinated on
by Friday evening.
1131
00:55:43,991 --> 00:55:45,407
The showers, I wanted no part
1132
00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:47,073
of those things really
from day one.
1133
00:55:47,157 --> 00:55:49,741
They basically had just
one big communal shower,
1134
00:55:49,824 --> 00:55:51,907
like one for the women,
one for the men.
1135
00:55:51,991 --> 00:55:55,866
When we went in there,
the water was like shin to knee deep,
1136
00:55:55,949 --> 00:55:58,449
so you're basically
just showering in filth.
1137
00:55:58,532 --> 00:56:00,365
Then, the women shower
was next to ours,
1138
00:56:00,449 --> 00:56:02,240
also separated by a tarp.
1139
00:56:02,323 --> 00:56:04,365
So, there were like dudes like,
1140
00:56:04,449 --> 00:56:06,198
pulling the tarp back to, like,
look at the women
1141
00:56:06,282 --> 00:56:07,824
who were showering next door.
1142
00:56:08,741 --> 00:56:10,365
I did not take a shower there.
1143
00:56:10,449 --> 00:56:13,490
I definitely saw
that there were showers
1144
00:56:13,574 --> 00:56:16,782
and was not comfortable
with that.
1145
00:56:16,866 --> 00:56:18,866
That did not seem
like safe space.
1146
00:56:21,407 --> 00:56:24,407
The site, it reminded you
of like a refugee camp
1147
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:25,866
from the movies.
1148
00:56:27,323 --> 00:56:29,907
That there had been
some sort of big battle
1149
00:56:29,991 --> 00:56:31,782
and there
was just trash all over,
1150
00:56:31,866 --> 00:56:34,115
so you just saw that break down
1151
00:56:34,198 --> 00:56:37,449
of both the structure
and civility.
1152
00:56:38,532 --> 00:56:40,449
Also, it was just interesting
1153
00:56:40,532 --> 00:56:43,282
because the security
at Woodstock '99
1154
00:56:43,365 --> 00:56:45,323
was a little bit
of a different beast.
1155
00:56:45,407 --> 00:56:47,240
You could just tell,
1156
00:56:47,323 --> 00:56:49,574
just from the interactions
with them
1157
00:56:49,657 --> 00:56:53,532
that they just didn't act
like usual security guards.
1158
00:56:53,615 --> 00:56:54,866
How was your fucking job?
1159
00:56:54,949 --> 00:56:57,157
- Awesome time, man.
- Was it nice? Did you get pussy?
1160
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,699
Did you use that pass right
there to get some pussy?
1161
00:56:59,782 --> 00:57:01,032
- Yes, I did.
- Did you?
1162
00:57:01,115 --> 00:57:03,323
- Yes I did.
- I hate you. I'm jealous.
1163
00:57:03,407 --> 00:57:05,824
The vast majority of them
were just doing whatever it was
1164
00:57:05,907 --> 00:57:06,949
that they wanted.
1165
00:57:07,032 --> 00:57:09,407
Security didn't really work
with anyone else.
1166
00:57:22,741 --> 00:57:28,490
♪ An old man turned 98 ♪
1167
00:57:28,574 --> 00:57:34,532
♪ He won the lottery
And died the next day ♪
1168
00:57:34,615 --> 00:57:37,866
♪ It's a ♪
- ♪ black fly ♪
1169
00:57:37,949 --> 00:57:40,490
♪ In your ♪
- ♪ Chardonnay ♪
1170
00:57:40,574 --> 00:57:43,490
♪ It's a death row pardon ♪
1171
00:57:43,574 --> 00:57:46,032
♪ Two minutes too late ♪
1172
00:57:46,115 --> 00:57:51,615
♪ And isn't it ironic
Don't you think? ♪
1173
00:57:51,699 --> 00:57:57,574
♪ It's like rain
On your wedding day ♪
1174
00:57:57,657 --> 00:58:00,699
♪ It's a free ride ♪
1175
00:58:00,782 --> 00:58:02,782
♪ When you've already paid ♪
1176
00:58:02,866 --> 00:58:04,699
Woodstock '99
definitely felt like
1177
00:58:04,782 --> 00:58:07,574
it lacked a cohesive feeling.
1178
00:58:07,657 --> 00:58:11,073
Was it because, in all honesty,
the Gen Xers and next generation
1179
00:58:11,157 --> 00:58:13,449
really weren't fighting
anything.
1180
00:58:13,532 --> 00:58:16,824
But we wanted to be angsty
and we wanted to be deep.
1181
00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:18,574
I think the only thing
we were really fighting
1182
00:58:18,657 --> 00:58:20,782
is we didn't feel like
we had a purpose.
1183
00:58:20,866 --> 00:58:23,741
You know, difficult times
galvanize you.
1184
00:58:23,824 --> 00:58:26,323
It galvanizes you
around a cause.
1185
00:58:27,365 --> 00:58:29,741
But the '99 Woodstock
just seemed like
1186
00:58:29,824 --> 00:58:32,824
it was trying to relive
a nostalgic moment
1187
00:58:32,907 --> 00:58:35,615
along with commercialism
and kind of capitalizing
1188
00:58:35,699 --> 00:58:37,907
and trying to maximize profits,
but not having
1189
00:58:37,991 --> 00:58:40,866
a real soulful purpose
for the show.
1190
00:58:40,949 --> 00:58:46,115
♪ It's like rain
On your wedding day ♪
1191
00:58:46,198 --> 00:58:48,240
Somebody made a decision
about this lineup,
1192
00:58:48,323 --> 00:58:50,407
like, we're gonna have a bunch
of metal bands here,
1193
00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:52,907
and we're also gonna have,
you know, Jewel and Cheryl Crow.
1194
00:58:52,991 --> 00:58:56,574
♪ Advice
That you just didn't take ♪
1195
00:58:56,657 --> 00:58:57,949
I have no idea what went
1196
00:58:58,032 --> 00:59:01,115
into the thought processes
of the promoters
1197
00:59:01,198 --> 00:59:04,657
in booking
only three female acts.
1198
00:59:04,741 --> 00:59:08,365
I didn't think in any way
in terms of male-female.
1199
00:59:08,449 --> 00:59:11,615
You either had to be a rock band
or you had to have the charisma
1200
00:59:11,699 --> 00:59:12,866
to be able to pull it off.
1201
00:59:12,949 --> 00:59:15,907
We didn't say there has to be
X number of female acts.
1202
00:59:15,991 --> 00:59:19,198
We booked who we thought
belonged on it.
1203
00:59:19,282 --> 00:59:21,032
It seems like
it was a deliberate choice
1204
00:59:21,115 --> 00:59:23,991
because each woman is on
a different day of the festival.
1205
00:59:24,073 --> 00:59:29,365
It was like there was a quota
for estrogen at Woodstock '99.
1206
00:59:29,449 --> 00:59:32,365
Saturday, I remember watching
Alanis Morissette
1207
00:59:32,449 --> 00:59:35,282
and feeling aggravation
from the audience,
1208
00:59:35,365 --> 00:59:37,490
literal angst bubbling up
in the crowd.
1209
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,157
And then I saw what
was on the bill
1210
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,323
for the rest of the night,
which was in a row,
1211
00:59:41,407 --> 00:59:42,866
Limp Bizkit,
Rage Against the Machine,
1212
00:59:42,949 --> 00:59:45,741
Metallica.
That is a lot of aggression.
1213
00:59:45,824 --> 00:59:50,866
♪ And isn't it ironic
Don't you think? ♪
1214
00:59:50,949 --> 00:59:56,907
♪ A little too ironic
And, yeah, I really do think ♪
1215
00:59:59,824 --> 01:00:02,574
- Thank you very much everyone.
- I love you.
1216
01:00:02,657 --> 01:00:06,157
So much.
Have a great night.
1217
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,907
Bless you each.
1218
01:00:11,449 --> 01:00:12,699
How you doing?
1219
01:00:12,782 --> 01:00:15,490
- Good. How's it going?
- Woodstock, baby.
1220
01:00:15,574 --> 01:00:17,032
- We're here.
- You see Limp Bizkit?
1221
01:00:17,115 --> 01:00:18,991
I'm gonna go see him later
today?
1222
01:00:19,073 --> 01:00:21,824
There was a lot of buzz
around Limp Bizkit.
1223
01:00:21,907 --> 01:00:26,490
It was probably the apex
of their career and I loved it.
1224
01:00:26,574 --> 01:00:28,824
I kinda looked like Fred Durst,
1225
01:00:28,907 --> 01:00:30,949
and I was just ready
to be a part of it
1226
01:00:31,032 --> 01:00:32,991
and I couldn't wait
for their show.
1227
01:00:33,073 --> 01:00:34,323
We're here on MTV.
1228
01:00:34,407 --> 01:00:36,449
And we're ready for you,
Woodstock.
1229
01:00:36,532 --> 01:00:38,198
I'm here to see Limp Bizkit.
1230
01:00:38,282 --> 01:00:41,365
The morning
before their show, I was on MTV
1231
01:00:41,449 --> 01:00:43,782
rapping Limp Bizkit lyrics
with a crowd behind me.
1232
01:00:43,866 --> 01:00:46,866
And I just started saying,
"I did it all for the 'Nookie.'"
1233
01:00:46,949 --> 01:00:48,198
"Come on. The nookie.
1234
01:00:48,282 --> 01:00:50,407
Come on, so you can take the cookie
and stick it up your..."
1235
01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:51,615
- Ass!
- Stick it up your
1236
01:00:51,699 --> 01:00:53,490
- Your Ass.
- Stick it up your...
1237
01:00:53,574 --> 01:00:55,782
People are screaming,
"Stick it up your ass,"
1238
01:00:55,866 --> 01:00:58,657
"Stick it up your ass,
Stick it up your ass."
1239
01:00:58,741 --> 01:01:00,574
This is Fred from Limp Bizkit.
1240
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,198
Let's find out who we are
1241
01:01:02,282 --> 01:01:05,407
on Ultra Sound this Sunday
at 10:00. Punk.
1242
01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:07,991
Limp Bizkit, huge MTV artist
at the time.
1243
01:01:08,073 --> 01:01:10,323
"Nookie." A smash.
1244
01:01:11,365 --> 01:01:12,907
You know any time
we would put them on
1245
01:01:12,991 --> 01:01:15,824
or have them as guests
or whatever it would rate really well.
1246
01:01:15,907 --> 01:01:17,240
Right now,
we've got another performance
1247
01:01:17,323 --> 01:01:19,407
from Limp Bizkit who has
an amazing album coming out on...
1248
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:21,407
It was a mutually beneficial
relationship between the two.
1249
01:01:21,490 --> 01:01:24,574
Yeah, like MTV and Limp Bizkit
were just, like, synonymous
1250
01:01:24,657 --> 01:01:26,157
it seemed in 1999.
1251
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,407
And that's one
of the greatest ascensions
1252
01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:33,073
of a band of that caliber
that I've seen in a long time.
1253
01:01:33,157 --> 01:01:35,365
You want the worst?
1254
01:01:36,782 --> 01:01:38,532
Well, you got the worst.
1255
01:01:39,490 --> 01:01:42,032
The one, the only...
1256
01:01:43,741 --> 01:01:46,657
Limp Bizkit.
1257
01:01:48,532 --> 01:01:51,615
Before they took the stage
I looked around,
1258
01:01:51,699 --> 01:01:55,323
and I had never seen
that many people before.
1259
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,824
In the moment,
it felt like, "Man,
1260
01:01:58,907 --> 01:02:00,907
we're seeing
something special here."
1261
01:02:00,991 --> 01:02:04,073
And the crowds
were fucking bananas for them.
1262
01:02:04,157 --> 01:02:07,282
By day two, people
were like a little bit drunker,
1263
01:02:07,365 --> 01:02:10,532
a little bit hotter,
a little bit angrier.
1264
01:02:10,615 --> 01:02:12,699
And then Limp Bizkit's
bass player came out
1265
01:02:12,782 --> 01:02:15,782
and he was just giving everybody
the double middle finger.
1266
01:02:15,866 --> 01:02:20,282
Now, that was kind of the vibe
that Limp Bizkit started with,
1267
01:02:20,365 --> 01:02:21,907
and then Fred Durst stepped in.
1268
01:02:23,365 --> 01:02:25,532
This is 1999, motherfucker.
1269
01:02:27,574 --> 01:02:29,032
Take your Birkenstocks
1270
01:02:29,115 --> 01:02:30,782
and stick 'em up
your fucking ass.
1271
01:02:33,741 --> 01:02:34,949
People were just pumped up.
1272
01:02:35,032 --> 01:02:38,866
They had a lot of energy,
lot of like college dudes.
1273
01:02:39,782 --> 01:02:40,741
College white dudes,
1274
01:02:40,824 --> 01:02:42,157
it looked like
that was the crowd,
1275
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,699
just like angry white,
fraternity college dudes.
1276
01:02:45,782 --> 01:02:48,615
And that was when I realized
I was the kind
1277
01:02:48,699 --> 01:02:52,073
of the perfect demographic
for Woodstock to market to.
1278
01:02:52,157 --> 01:02:55,157
I was like the exact person
that they wanted to go.
1279
01:02:57,907 --> 01:02:59,157
The typical festival
1280
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,991
has many different cliques.
They tend to go
1281
01:03:02,073 --> 01:03:05,323
for different genres
and different fan bases
1282
01:03:05,407 --> 01:03:08,782
and whatever.
This seemed to aim directly
1283
01:03:08,866 --> 01:03:14,115
at the most furious 24-year-olds
in your life.
1284
01:03:14,198 --> 01:03:16,157
- Kid Rock, you going to see Kid Rock?
- Nah, bro.
1285
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,157
I'm going to check out
fucking Limp Bizkit,
1286
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,115
Rage, Metallica, bro.
1287
01:03:21,198 --> 01:03:25,532
When you have a crowd
who are excited, inebriated,
1288
01:03:25,615 --> 01:03:28,032
hot, and now you give 'em a band
1289
01:03:28,115 --> 01:03:31,282
that helped them release
that energy,
1290
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,699
what do you think
is gonna happen?
1291
01:03:34,949 --> 01:03:37,282
Hey, let me ask you
a personal question.
1292
01:03:37,365 --> 01:03:40,282
How many people here
ever woke up one morning
1293
01:03:40,365 --> 01:03:43,240
and just decided,
it wasn't one of those days
1294
01:03:43,323 --> 01:03:45,032
and you're gonna break
some shit?
1295
01:03:49,407 --> 01:03:51,490
Well, this is one
of them days y'all...
1296
01:03:53,449 --> 01:03:55,866
where everything's fucked up,
1297
01:03:55,949 --> 01:03:58,032
and you just wanna break
some shit.
1298
01:03:59,615 --> 01:04:00,657
You feel me?
1299
01:04:00,741 --> 01:04:03,198
Let's feel it.
1300
01:04:04,657 --> 01:04:05,991
♪ Its just one of those days ♪
1301
01:04:06,073 --> 01:04:07,657
♪ Where you don't want
To wake up ♪
1302
01:04:07,741 --> 01:04:09,949
♪ Everything is fucked
Everybody sucks ♪
1303
01:04:10,032 --> 01:04:12,741
♪ You don't really know why
But you want to justify ♪
1304
01:04:12,824 --> 01:04:14,032
♪ Rippin' someone's head off ♪
1305
01:04:14,115 --> 01:04:16,741
♪ No human contact
And if you interact ♪
1306
01:04:16,824 --> 01:04:17,991
♪ Your life is on contract ♪
1307
01:04:18,073 --> 01:04:20,907
♪ Your best bet
Is to stay away motherfucker ♪
1308
01:04:20,991 --> 01:04:22,407
♪ It's just one of those days ♪
1309
01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:24,073
♪ It's all about the he-says,
She-says... ♪
1310
01:04:24,157 --> 01:04:26,949
They had the crowd
going insane, but by that time
1311
01:04:27,032 --> 01:04:28,907
people were walking around
in shit and piss
1312
01:04:28,991 --> 01:04:31,615
because all of the fucking
porta potties overflowed.
1313
01:04:31,699 --> 01:04:33,782
They were dehydrated,
passing out.
1314
01:04:33,866 --> 01:04:35,907
It was too many people
for what the facilities
1315
01:04:35,991 --> 01:04:39,574
they had, and then,
it just went from there.
1316
01:04:39,657 --> 01:04:42,907
♪ It's all about the he-says,
She-says bullshit ♪
1317
01:04:44,323 --> 01:04:45,490
♪ I think you better quit... ♪
1318
01:04:45,574 --> 01:04:48,157
And I know
that he had an image to maintain
1319
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,949
and they wanna do, like, put
on a proper Limp Bizkit show.
1320
01:04:51,032 --> 01:04:56,407
But, you know, like even
a liquor commercial says,
1321
01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:58,866
"Please Drink Responsibly."
1322
01:05:01,282 --> 01:05:03,532
Time to reach
deep down inside...
1323
01:05:05,073 --> 01:05:07,574
and take all
that negative energy...
1324
01:05:10,073 --> 01:05:11,824
all that negative energy.
1325
01:05:13,949 --> 01:05:16,407
And let that shit out
of your fucking system.
1326
01:05:18,115 --> 01:05:21,782
You got girl problems,
you got boy problems,
1327
01:05:21,866 --> 01:05:25,615
you got parent problems,
you got boss problems,
1328
01:05:25,699 --> 01:05:29,323
you got job problems,
you got a problem with me,
1329
01:05:29,407 --> 01:05:31,240
you got a problem with yourself,
1330
01:05:31,323 --> 01:05:33,866
it's time to take all
that negative energy
1331
01:05:33,949 --> 01:05:35,741
and put it the fuck out.
1332
01:05:37,741 --> 01:05:40,365
You feel me, Woodstock?
1333
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,949
All right, let's bring it out.
1334
01:05:44,407 --> 01:05:46,449
When this song kicks in,
1335
01:05:46,532 --> 01:05:48,365
I want you to fucking kick in.
1336
01:05:50,032 --> 01:05:51,115
You got it?
1337
01:05:54,866 --> 01:05:57,115
♪ I feel like shit ♪
1338
01:05:57,198 --> 01:06:00,157
♪ My suggestion
Is to keep your distance ♪
1339
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,365
♪ Cause right now
I'm dangerous ♪
1340
01:06:02,449 --> 01:06:06,407
♪ We've all felt like shit
And been treated like shit ♪
1341
01:06:06,490 --> 01:06:09,866
♪ All of those motherfuckers
Who want to step up ♪
1342
01:06:09,949 --> 01:06:12,615
♪ I hope you know
I pack a chainsaw ♪
1343
01:06:12,699 --> 01:06:14,657
♪ I'll skin your ass raw ♪
1344
01:06:14,741 --> 01:06:16,657
♪ And if my day keeps going
This way ♪
1345
01:06:16,741 --> 01:06:18,866
♪ I just might break
Something tonight ♪
1346
01:06:18,949 --> 01:06:23,115
♪ I pack a chainsaw
I'll skin your ass raw ♪
1347
01:06:23,198 --> 01:06:24,991
♪ And if my day keeps going
This way ♪
1348
01:06:25,073 --> 01:06:28,365
♪ I just might break
Your fuckin' face tonight ♪
1349
01:06:28,449 --> 01:06:30,282
♪ Give me something ♪
1350
01:06:32,949 --> 01:06:34,615
♪ Give me something ♪
1351
01:06:37,657 --> 01:06:39,365
♪ Give me something to break ♪
1352
01:06:41,991 --> 01:06:44,157
♪ How bout yer fucking face ♪
1353
01:06:45,574 --> 01:06:47,407
♪ I hope you know
I pack a chainsaw ♪
1354
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:49,615
- ♪ What! ♪
- ♪ A chainsaw ♪
1355
01:06:49,699 --> 01:06:52,240
- ♪ What! ♪
- ♪ A motherfucking chainsaw ♪
1356
01:06:52,323 --> 01:06:53,991
♪ What! ♪
1357
01:06:54,657 --> 01:06:55,949
♪ So come and get it ♪
1358
01:07:00,198 --> 01:07:01,407
That's some tight shit
right there,
1359
01:07:01,490 --> 01:07:03,490
the crowd surfing
on the plywood.
1360
01:07:04,991 --> 01:07:07,699
Fred Durst was a moron.
1361
01:07:07,782 --> 01:07:10,699
He was completely defiant
in between songs.
1362
01:07:10,782 --> 01:07:11,949
We went up to him,
1363
01:07:12,032 --> 01:07:14,824
you know, and said, "Hey,
calm things down" you know.
1364
01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:16,907
He was out of his mind.
1365
01:07:17,032 --> 01:07:19,032
He was completely
out of his mind.
1366
01:07:20,365 --> 01:07:22,866
Fuck, we're Limp Bizkit.
1367
01:07:24,949 --> 01:07:27,991
That's right. Fuck you, too.
1368
01:07:30,532 --> 01:07:32,198
People tried
to blame Fred Durst.
1369
01:07:32,282 --> 01:07:33,615
I don't think you
can blame Fred Durst.
1370
01:07:33,699 --> 01:07:35,532
Fred Durst was being Fred Durst.
1371
01:07:35,615 --> 01:07:37,365
He was doing what people
wanted him to do.
1372
01:07:42,449 --> 01:07:44,907
A normal Limp Bizkit show,
he doesn't jump
1373
01:07:44,991 --> 01:07:48,282
into the audience on a piece
of plywood, get passed around
1374
01:07:48,365 --> 01:07:50,490
and keep screaming
"Break things, break things,
1375
01:07:50,574 --> 01:07:52,449
break things."
1376
01:07:52,532 --> 01:07:56,115
He caused a lot of trouble.
It's a miracle nobody got hurt
1377
01:07:56,198 --> 01:07:59,574
because we still
had another day.
1378
01:07:59,657 --> 01:08:01,323
How scary
was it for you up there
1379
01:08:01,407 --> 01:08:02,699
when they started ripping
that place apart,
1380
01:08:02,782 --> 01:08:04,365
when they started taking
the plywood off the towers
1381
01:08:04,449 --> 01:08:05,949
- and stuff?
- Oh, my God.
1382
01:08:06,032 --> 01:08:07,282
Dude, it's not our fault.
1383
01:08:08,741 --> 01:08:10,615
It gets me pissed off,
you see I'm swelling up
1384
01:08:10,699 --> 01:08:13,991
right now. It makes me mad
because they blame us.
1385
01:08:14,073 --> 01:08:15,323
Rock music has always
been the escape,
1386
01:08:15,407 --> 01:08:17,323
I mean, "Hey, I feel
a connection with this person
1387
01:08:17,407 --> 01:08:19,157
'cause he's going
through what I went through,
1388
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,240
and if he got through it,
I can get through it."
1389
01:08:22,574 --> 01:08:25,532
To blame the artists,
I think it's too easy.
1390
01:08:25,615 --> 01:08:27,991
We never ask the deeper,
existential question,
1391
01:08:28,073 --> 01:08:30,657
"Why are so many young men
in America,
1392
01:08:30,741 --> 01:08:32,407
why are they so angry?"
1393
01:08:33,699 --> 01:08:36,115
It's very convenient
to say that,
1394
01:08:36,198 --> 01:08:38,407
"This aggressive rock band.
It's their fault."
1395
01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:41,699
But I think that if you look at
what was going on in the culture
1396
01:08:41,782 --> 01:08:44,741
and the rot that was setting in,
in a lot of places,
1397
01:08:45,407 --> 01:08:46,657
it's bigger than nu metal.
1398
01:08:46,741 --> 01:08:48,323
And it's certainly bigger
than Limp Bizkit.
1399
01:08:55,449 --> 01:08:57,532
I think when we look
back on 1999,
1400
01:08:57,615 --> 01:09:00,699
it was a very top-down world
and I think in general,
1401
01:09:00,782 --> 01:09:03,657
the 20th century
was a very top-down era.
1402
01:09:09,323 --> 01:09:11,240
♪ Killing in the name of ♪
1403
01:09:11,323 --> 01:09:13,365
It was very easy
for the government
1404
01:09:13,449 --> 01:09:15,949
or corporations
or whoever was in power
1405
01:09:16,032 --> 01:09:18,657
to dictate the way
that the world was going to be.
1406
01:09:18,741 --> 01:09:19,949
And there really was nothing
1407
01:09:20,032 --> 01:09:22,615
that the average person
could do to stop it.
1408
01:09:22,699 --> 01:09:25,407
♪ Some of those
That work forces ♪
1409
01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:28,282
♪ Are the same
That burn crosses ♪
1410
01:09:28,365 --> 01:09:31,198
One of the most offensive things
1411
01:09:31,282 --> 01:09:34,032
about Woodstock '99
was that these guys
1412
01:09:34,115 --> 01:09:36,407
who were relics of the '60s
felt that this was something
1413
01:09:36,490 --> 01:09:39,741
that Gen X needed,
that we somehow needed
1414
01:09:39,824 --> 01:09:43,198
our own experience
of what they had.
1415
01:09:43,282 --> 01:09:44,657
♪ Burn crosses ♪
1416
01:09:49,282 --> 01:09:50,782
♪ Killing in the name of ♪
1417
01:09:50,866 --> 01:09:52,866
The idea of older generations
1418
01:09:52,949 --> 01:09:56,198
subjecting younger generations
to the way they wish things
1419
01:09:56,282 --> 01:09:58,532
would be,
is such an American thing.
1420
01:09:58,615 --> 01:10:00,782
And accepting that your moment
1421
01:10:00,866 --> 01:10:03,866
has passed is really hard
for people to fathom.
1422
01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:06,782
And you know a lot of what
doesn't get done in this country
1423
01:10:06,866 --> 01:10:09,198
doesn't get done
because older people
1424
01:10:09,282 --> 01:10:10,323
are scared of younger people.
1425
01:10:10,407 --> 01:10:12,282
♪ Now you do
What they told you ♪
1426
01:10:12,365 --> 01:10:14,866
No one was asking
for another Woodstock.
1427
01:10:14,949 --> 01:10:17,115
There was no desire for it.
1428
01:10:17,198 --> 01:10:19,741
To me it's the narcissism
and the self-regard
1429
01:10:19,824 --> 01:10:24,282
of the baby boomer generation
which continues to hang on
1430
01:10:24,365 --> 01:10:26,907
to power in every way
in America.
1431
01:10:26,991 --> 01:10:29,282
It's political, it's economic,
it's cultural.
1432
01:10:29,365 --> 01:10:31,240
Like the reins have
not been turned over.
1433
01:10:31,323 --> 01:10:34,574
They will not be turned over
until they're all probably gone.
1434
01:10:37,532 --> 01:10:39,866
♪ Fuck you, I won't do
What you tell me ♪
1435
01:10:39,949 --> 01:10:42,282
♪ Fuck you, I won't do
What you tell me ♪
1436
01:10:42,365 --> 01:10:45,198
In 1999, you're starting
to see instances
1437
01:10:45,282 --> 01:10:48,323
where power dynamics
were changing in the country.
1438
01:10:48,407 --> 01:10:51,449
And technology
was gonna make it impossible
1439
01:10:51,532 --> 01:10:54,365
for the world to continue to be
that way in the new century.
1440
01:11:02,115 --> 01:11:04,032
♪ -Welcome to Hastings.
1441
01:11:04,115 --> 01:11:06,032
Most of us
head out to a music store
1442
01:11:06,115 --> 01:11:08,323
to buy CDs,
but not Mike Chestworth.
1443
01:11:08,407 --> 01:11:11,574
He goes to napster.com to get
all the music he wants
1444
01:11:11,657 --> 01:11:14,115
and he doesn't pay for it.
1445
01:11:14,198 --> 01:11:17,407
For years you had people
who were being forced to spend
1446
01:11:17,490 --> 01:11:20,574
18 dollars on a CD
when they only wanted one song.
1447
01:11:20,657 --> 01:11:22,991
And there was really no recourse
for those people.
1448
01:11:23,073 --> 01:11:27,032
So, when there was finally
a means to circumvent
1449
01:11:27,115 --> 01:11:29,323
the record companies
in the form of Napster.
1450
01:11:29,407 --> 01:11:31,741
I think people knew
that they were stealing music
1451
01:11:31,824 --> 01:11:33,282
but they didn't care.
1452
01:11:33,365 --> 01:11:34,991
Part of what we're trying
to do here is make
1453
01:11:35,073 --> 01:11:38,866
people understand that what
they're doing is illegal.
1454
01:11:38,949 --> 01:11:41,115
I'm not even gonna get
into the moral issue.
1455
01:11:42,866 --> 01:11:45,323
When Napster came along in '99
1456
01:11:45,407 --> 01:11:48,907
and it looked like it was gonna
profoundly shift the way
1457
01:11:48,991 --> 01:11:51,824
that music was produced
and sold and consumed,
1458
01:11:51,907 --> 01:11:55,073
and what it meant for artists
and their revenue streams,
1459
01:11:55,157 --> 01:11:58,824
Lars Ulrich
had the very unpopular opinion
1460
01:11:58,907 --> 01:12:00,615
that this was not good.
1461
01:12:00,699 --> 01:12:02,782
It sort of seemed like
a cranky old man voice,
1462
01:12:02,866 --> 01:12:04,741
like you can't get in the way
of technology.
1463
01:12:04,824 --> 01:12:06,782
In all due respect to Lars
and Metallica,
1464
01:12:06,866 --> 01:12:10,449
I look at Napster as power
going back to the people.
1465
01:12:10,532 --> 01:12:12,657
For me I... see I remember back
1466
01:12:12,741 --> 01:12:15,198
when I was in Metallica
that we used to trade tapes.
1467
01:12:15,282 --> 01:12:17,240
That's how we
even discovered bands.
1468
01:12:17,323 --> 01:12:20,782
I don't know, I can't blame Lars
for doing the things
1469
01:12:20,866 --> 01:12:21,991
that he does.
1470
01:12:22,866 --> 01:12:26,198
He... who knows
why a guy does that?
1471
01:12:26,282 --> 01:12:28,240
I mean does
he have enough money?
1472
01:12:28,323 --> 01:12:29,657
Probably, right?
1473
01:12:30,991 --> 01:12:32,907
I mean I can't...
my brain's going
1474
01:12:32,991 --> 01:12:34,407
"Don't say it, Dave,
don't say it, Dave,
1475
01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:35,741
don't say it, Dave."
1476
01:12:35,824 --> 01:12:38,741
And you're going, "Say it, Dave,
say it, Dave, say it, Dave."
1477
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,365
We are Metallica.
1478
01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:51,490
And this is what we do best,
motherfucker!
1479
01:13:05,198 --> 01:13:06,782
That second night
when Dave and I went
1480
01:13:06,866 --> 01:13:09,115
to see Metallica.
He was so excited,
1481
01:13:09,198 --> 01:13:10,615
and there was just
that very much, like...
1482
01:13:10,699 --> 01:13:12,907
"This is it, this is the goal,
1483
01:13:12,991 --> 01:13:15,991
this is why I'm here.
I'm gonna get in the mosh pit.
1484
01:13:16,073 --> 01:13:17,365
This is my Everest."
1485
01:13:19,949 --> 01:13:22,282
I had never been
in a mosh pit before.
1486
01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:25,407
I was a little uncomfortable.
And people are crowd surfing,
1487
01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:27,657
and you're kinda
like getting kicked in the head
1488
01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:29,198
and whatever, but it's cool.
1489
01:13:32,407 --> 01:13:34,490
It was so intense
and people just doing
1490
01:13:34,574 --> 01:13:36,532
their thing in the mosh pit
like throwing people around.
1491
01:13:36,615 --> 01:13:39,157
And you'd feel like
you could just get trampled
1492
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,699
and nobody would care about you.
1493
01:13:43,949 --> 01:13:47,782
It was a weird mass of humanity
where it was just a sea
1494
01:13:47,866 --> 01:13:51,115
and you just kind of undulated
in all four directions.
1495
01:13:52,532 --> 01:13:54,198
It's so tightly packed together
1496
01:13:54,282 --> 01:13:55,741
and it's so claustrophobic.
1497
01:13:55,824 --> 01:13:57,615
You literally cannot control
your own body.
1498
01:13:57,699 --> 01:14:00,741
You'd feel your feet getting
lifted up off the ground
1499
01:14:00,824 --> 01:14:04,240
and you move with the crowd
because the organism
1500
01:14:04,323 --> 01:14:07,907
becomes stronger
than any individual person.
1501
01:14:10,407 --> 01:14:12,073
I just get to a point
where I'm like,
1502
01:14:12,157 --> 01:14:13,866
"This isn't for me,"
and I feel bad
1503
01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:15,449
because Dave's been cool,
you know,
1504
01:14:15,532 --> 01:14:19,657
but he recognizes even, like,
this isn't my scene,
1505
01:14:19,741 --> 01:14:21,991
you know, so, he's like,
"You can go if you want."
1506
01:14:22,073 --> 01:14:23,824
I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna try
to go that way,
1507
01:14:23,907 --> 01:14:25,282
I'm gonna try to go back."
1508
01:14:26,991 --> 01:14:28,866
I don't know how many people
I walked through,
1509
01:14:28,949 --> 01:14:30,365
I don't know
how many football fields
1510
01:14:30,449 --> 01:14:33,949
I walked through,
but I got out of there.
1511
01:14:34,032 --> 01:14:37,115
I'm usually the last person
at things that I go to.
1512
01:14:37,198 --> 01:14:40,157
But by Saturday night
I couldn't take it.
1513
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,449
And I knew that Sunday
1514
01:14:41,532 --> 01:14:43,657
was going
to be even more brutal.
1515
01:14:46,115 --> 01:14:49,157
After Metallica,
they had DJs every night
1516
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,365
and I've never really been
to a rave
1517
01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:53,032
or I wasn't really into DJs,
1518
01:14:53,115 --> 01:14:55,240
but I thought, "Hey, we're here.
Like, let's check it out."
1519
01:15:02,532 --> 01:15:07,574
I felt the rave hangar
was very cynical, very soulless.
1520
01:15:07,657 --> 01:15:11,782
"Let's shove in some DJs,
and some drugs, and some kids,
1521
01:15:11,866 --> 01:15:13,991
and we'll just keep
this going all night."
1522
01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:17,574
We were excited,
this is one of the biggest show
1523
01:15:17,657 --> 01:15:20,157
I'd ever played,
you know, it was Woodstock.
1524
01:15:21,073 --> 01:15:22,574
And the rave tent was supposed
1525
01:15:22,657 --> 01:15:25,282
to be sort of like
an idyllic separate area
1526
01:15:25,365 --> 01:15:27,449
from Woodstock,
but it still had been infected
1527
01:15:27,532 --> 01:15:32,615
by that like, broken,
dusty, sad, angry vibe.
1528
01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:38,282
It made no sense
to me, whatsoever.
1529
01:15:38,365 --> 01:15:43,323
There's no crossover,
there's no world in which a kid
1530
01:15:43,407 --> 01:15:45,615
who is there for Limp Bizkit
1531
01:15:45,699 --> 01:15:49,699
is also, like, looking to go
do ecstasy in the rave tent
1532
01:15:49,782 --> 01:15:52,449
and like bliss out to Moby,
it's just not happening.
1533
01:15:55,198 --> 01:15:56,657
We walked offstage
and we were like,
1534
01:15:56,741 --> 01:15:58,949
"Get out of here, like,
we need to leave right now."
1535
01:15:59,032 --> 01:16:01,615
Our plan had been to park up
and stay for the whole weekend,
1536
01:16:01,699 --> 01:16:04,615
but that, like, atavistic part
of our brains
1537
01:16:04,699 --> 01:16:07,657
collectively said, "Leave now."
1538
01:16:07,741 --> 01:16:10,157
It's bad
and it's not getting better.
1539
01:16:11,365 --> 01:16:14,449
To have music going, acts going,
1540
01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:16,073
like churning through the day
1541
01:16:16,157 --> 01:16:18,615
into night 'til 5:00 a.m.
and there's no rest,
1542
01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:20,115
there's no breaks,
there's no rhythm,
1543
01:16:20,198 --> 01:16:22,407
there's no come down,
1544
01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:24,282
what are you expecting
to happen?
1545
01:16:24,365 --> 01:16:27,991
Everybody's going like this,
and they can't sustain it.
1546
01:16:28,073 --> 01:16:32,991
It's gonna crash.
It's gonna crash in a very big,
1547
01:16:33,073 --> 01:16:35,574
cinematic, cataclysmic way.
1548
01:16:48,574 --> 01:16:50,949
The last morning, I remember
1549
01:16:51,032 --> 01:16:52,657
for a sleeping arrangement
it was...
1550
01:16:52,741 --> 01:16:56,115
I fell asleep on the wood chips.
1551
01:16:56,198 --> 01:16:58,741
What woke me up basically
was someone yelling out,
1552
01:16:58,824 --> 01:17:02,741
"Tear down the wall!
Tear down the wall!"
1553
01:17:02,824 --> 01:17:05,407
And I was like,
"Holy shit, Pink Floyd is here?"
1554
01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:07,615
And I was like, "This is what
I'm talking about, man!"
1555
01:17:07,699 --> 01:17:09,032
I was like, "This is what
the Woodstock
1556
01:17:09,115 --> 01:17:10,532
I wanted it to be."
Like, they're gonna
1557
01:17:10,615 --> 01:17:13,032
have someone unexpected
like that to pop out.
1558
01:17:13,115 --> 01:17:17,866
And I ran and it was just people
basically pushing the wall down.
1559
01:17:25,782 --> 01:17:27,365
By Sunday, a lot of people
1560
01:17:27,449 --> 01:17:30,073
that were security,
that were peace patrol quit.
1561
01:17:30,157 --> 01:17:32,657
And essentially
I could have worked 24 hours
1562
01:17:32,741 --> 01:17:35,115
a day for all three days
if I wanted to.
1563
01:17:35,198 --> 01:17:37,407
We found that...
basically
1564
01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:39,866
the very first day,
a lot of the peace patrol
1565
01:17:39,949 --> 01:17:41,532
got their credential
and they got their shirt,
1566
01:17:41,615 --> 01:17:42,949
and then they just put
their credential
1567
01:17:43,073 --> 01:17:45,449
in their pocket,
and just waded off into the crowd.
1568
01:17:45,532 --> 01:17:49,907
And them attendees were left
to their own devices.
1569
01:17:56,907 --> 01:17:59,073
All these crazy people
breaking down this wall,
1570
01:17:59,157 --> 01:18:01,407
I think it's badass.
I know that it took time
1571
01:18:01,490 --> 01:18:06,032
to put up, but it's kinda like
a trademark of Woodstock '99.
1572
01:18:06,115 --> 01:18:08,407
I'm just destroying the wall
for fun,
1573
01:18:08,490 --> 01:18:11,365
- just 'cause I'm at Woodstock.
- We want Hendrix's face.
1574
01:18:11,449 --> 01:18:13,991
"Why not?"
That's the real question.
1575
01:18:14,073 --> 01:18:16,240
We got bored.
There's nothing else to do.
1576
01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:22,866
I think it just symbolizes
the disrespect that people have.
1577
01:18:22,949 --> 01:18:25,365
I mean, people spent a lot
of time working on this.
1578
01:18:26,157 --> 01:18:27,449
You know it symbolizes peace
1579
01:18:27,532 --> 01:18:28,907
and they're just
like going crazy.
1580
01:18:28,991 --> 01:18:31,282
It's been a great time,
but there are a lot
1581
01:18:31,365 --> 01:18:34,657
of really stupid humans
around here.
1582
01:18:34,741 --> 01:18:36,866
Yeah, all we've been hearing
is "Show us your tits,
1583
01:18:36,949 --> 01:18:38,073
show us your tits."
1584
01:18:38,157 --> 01:18:40,907
Flash your tits,
flash your tits!
1585
01:18:40,991 --> 01:18:43,949
Flash your tits,
flash your tits!
1586
01:18:44,032 --> 01:18:46,949
Flash your tits,
flash your tits!
1587
01:18:47,032 --> 01:18:49,615
Flash your tits,
flash your tits!
1588
01:18:49,699 --> 01:18:53,240
Flash your tits,
flash your tits!
1589
01:18:54,657 --> 01:18:56,282
I was taking like
a five-minute break
1590
01:18:56,365 --> 01:18:57,991
outside of the dispatch office.
1591
01:18:58,073 --> 01:19:00,032
And one
of the medic units pulls up
1592
01:19:00,115 --> 01:19:02,449
and there's someone
in the front seat with them
1593
01:19:02,532 --> 01:19:03,782
that I didn't recognize.
1594
01:19:03,866 --> 01:19:07,699
I was like looked and turned out
to be like some little girl.
1595
01:19:07,782 --> 01:19:10,824
The medic jumped out,
he's not wearing his shirt,
1596
01:19:10,907 --> 01:19:13,282
and grabbed his two walkies
and yelled over to me,
1597
01:19:13,365 --> 01:19:16,449
"Yo, do me a favor.
Watch that girl.
1598
01:19:16,532 --> 01:19:18,282
Don't let anyone near her."
1599
01:19:18,365 --> 01:19:21,991
And about two minutes later,
he comes out with a nurse.
1600
01:19:22,073 --> 01:19:25,157
So I back up a little bit,
he opens the door,
1601
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,532
the nurse goes in,
she has a blanket.
1602
01:19:27,615 --> 01:19:29,907
She unfurls the blanket.
1603
01:19:29,991 --> 01:19:34,657
She puts it over the girl,
takes her out of the cab,
1604
01:19:34,741 --> 01:19:37,198
and you know, basically
guides her
1605
01:19:37,282 --> 01:19:40,449
into the main medical.
1606
01:19:40,532 --> 01:19:43,073
After that, I look at the medic,
the medic looks at me.
1607
01:19:43,157 --> 01:19:45,490
And I'm like, "Dude,
what's up with that?"
1608
01:19:45,574 --> 01:19:47,407
And he just looks at me
and he's just like,
1609
01:19:47,490 --> 01:19:50,699
"Dude, they're just savages.
1610
01:19:50,782 --> 01:19:53,365
Just straight up savages."
1611
01:19:53,449 --> 01:19:58,365
And that's when suddenly
the light bulb went off
1612
01:19:58,449 --> 01:20:00,532
in my head, and I was like,
1613
01:20:00,615 --> 01:20:02,782
"Oh, she's wearing his shirt...
1614
01:20:03,949 --> 01:20:06,073
because she had no clothes...
1615
01:20:06,949 --> 01:20:10,449
because...
she was sexually assaulted."
1616
01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:15,824
This wasn't Woodstock '69.
This wasn't Woodstock '94.
1617
01:20:15,907 --> 01:20:20,699
This was gonna be Woodstock 1999
where love might be free,
1618
01:20:20,782 --> 01:20:23,115
it's not necessarily gonna
be given,
1619
01:20:23,198 --> 01:20:24,574
but it's also gonna be taken.
1620
01:20:24,657 --> 01:20:26,073
Hey, guys, back.
Give her some room.
1621
01:20:26,157 --> 01:20:27,574
You're gonna scare her.
1622
01:20:27,657 --> 01:20:31,240
There's no question
that a few incidents took place,
1623
01:20:31,323 --> 01:20:32,991
but if you go back
in the records
1624
01:20:33,073 --> 01:20:35,282
of the police and state police
and stuff,
1625
01:20:35,365 --> 01:20:39,490
you're not talking
about a hundred, or even fifty.
1626
01:20:39,574 --> 01:20:42,782
- You're talking about ten.
- Woodstock '99!
1627
01:20:42,866 --> 01:20:44,449
I am critical
1628
01:20:44,532 --> 01:20:46,365
of the hundreds of women
that were walking around
1629
01:20:46,449 --> 01:20:49,198
with no clothes on.
And expecting not to be touched.
1630
01:20:49,282 --> 01:20:50,741
They shouldn't have
been touched.
1631
01:20:50,824 --> 01:20:54,490
And I condemn it. But, you know,
I think that women
1632
01:20:54,574 --> 01:20:57,073
that were running around naked,
1633
01:20:57,157 --> 01:21:00,532
you know, are at least partially
to blame for that.
1634
01:21:02,782 --> 01:21:06,198
I mean, seriously,
the audacity of these guys.
1635
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,532
How dare you say it's our fault
1636
01:21:10,615 --> 01:21:12,866
that men
can't control themselves,
1637
01:21:12,949 --> 01:21:14,741
so what does that say about men?
1638
01:21:17,699 --> 01:21:20,824
One girl told me
that she found herself
1639
01:21:20,907 --> 01:21:24,490
in the crowd surrounded
by young men
1640
01:21:24,574 --> 01:21:29,282
and that there were three arms
on each of her limbs,
1641
01:21:29,365 --> 01:21:34,490
and that they were penetrating
her digitally.
1642
01:21:34,574 --> 01:21:38,365
And that she heard one
of them yell, "Rip her apart."
1643
01:21:40,032 --> 01:21:42,699
When it was finally over
and she was just able
1644
01:21:42,782 --> 01:21:45,282
to just run out of there,
1645
01:21:45,365 --> 01:21:48,073
she didn't even really think
to complain to anyone,
1646
01:21:48,157 --> 01:21:50,615
to find anyone
to report this to,
1647
01:21:50,699 --> 01:21:55,198
and I think there must have been
an overwhelming sense
1648
01:21:55,282 --> 01:21:58,657
given the sheer anarchy
of what was going on
1649
01:21:58,741 --> 01:22:01,032
that, you know,
"What would be the point?"
1650
01:22:01,115 --> 01:22:03,782
Over there, we camp
out over there.
1651
01:22:03,866 --> 01:22:05,032
If you guys walk over there,
1652
01:22:05,115 --> 01:22:07,073
you're gonna hear
some noises from me.
1653
01:22:07,157 --> 01:22:08,949
Come on, bring everything
you got to 'em.
1654
01:22:09,032 --> 01:22:10,657
We'll fucking party
our asses off.
1655
01:22:10,741 --> 01:22:12,574
Yeah!
1656
01:22:12,657 --> 01:22:17,741
There was a very masculine
centric attitude going on
1657
01:22:17,824 --> 01:22:21,407
that "I can do and take
what I want here at Woodstock."
1658
01:22:21,490 --> 01:22:23,657
Well, I'm just saying that
if you just do whatever you want-
1659
01:22:23,741 --> 01:22:26,407
The laws of normal society
just don't apply here...
1660
01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:28,824
Show us your tits for the media.
1661
01:22:28,907 --> 01:22:30,866
No, we're not lifting
our shirts up!
1662
01:22:30,949 --> 01:22:35,407
I felt unsafe and so I left
for my own security.
1663
01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:38,532
Based on what I saw,
I knew that there was
1664
01:22:38,615 --> 01:22:40,532
so many women that didn't tell
their stories
1665
01:22:40,615 --> 01:22:42,991
or they certainly weren't going
to the police.
1666
01:22:43,073 --> 01:22:45,490
I wonder where they are
and how they're doing.
1667
01:22:45,574 --> 01:22:48,574
And so we started
this little organization
1668
01:22:48,657 --> 01:22:50,115
called Fans Everywhere,
1669
01:22:50,198 --> 01:22:53,699
and we put a little thing out
on the internet saying,
1670
01:22:53,782 --> 01:22:56,323
"Did you have a bad experience
at Woodstock?
1671
01:22:56,407 --> 01:22:59,532
Do you need somebody to talk to?
Do you need some advice?
1672
01:22:59,615 --> 01:23:01,282
We promise it's going
to be anonymous.
1673
01:23:01,365 --> 01:23:03,032
We promise
we're not gonna tell anybody,
1674
01:23:03,115 --> 01:23:05,032
but we're here to support you."
1675
01:23:05,115 --> 01:23:09,532
And I got dozens upon dozens
of emails
1676
01:23:09,615 --> 01:23:11,991
from women, young women.
1677
01:23:12,073 --> 01:23:16,157
Women as young
as 14 years old, saying
1678
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,741
"I had a bottle shoved
up my vagina,"
1679
01:23:18,824 --> 01:23:22,407
or, "I had all of my clothes
ripped off in a mosh pit,"
1680
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:26,282
or "I was raped in a tent
on Saturday night."
1681
01:23:26,365 --> 01:23:27,741
"And I was screaming.
1682
01:23:27,824 --> 01:23:30,032
And nobody did anything
to stop it."
1683
01:23:30,115 --> 01:23:35,032
And then to have all these girls
say, "But was it my fault?"
1684
01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:47,657
I woke up Sunday morning.
1685
01:23:47,741 --> 01:23:51,365
I kinda heard my brothers Rob
and Brian talking.
1686
01:23:51,449 --> 01:23:55,323
I come out of my tent.
And there's no Dave.
1687
01:23:55,407 --> 01:23:57,323
Nobody really knows where he is.
1688
01:23:57,407 --> 01:23:59,407
But we're thinking, you know,
1689
01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:01,115
"Dave was looking
for a good time."
1690
01:24:01,198 --> 01:24:04,949
So we wouldn't be surprised
if he went to the raves
1691
01:24:05,032 --> 01:24:07,115
that were out all night
or made some friends
1692
01:24:07,198 --> 01:24:09,282
'cause he was an easy dude
to like.
1693
01:24:12,657 --> 01:24:15,115
As the day kinda
went along, you know,
1694
01:24:15,198 --> 01:24:16,699
it kinda goes from that,
1695
01:24:16,782 --> 01:24:19,782
"Okay, he'll turn up,"
to "Where the hell are you?"
1696
01:24:19,866 --> 01:24:23,240
to, you know, "Where are you?"
1697
01:24:24,866 --> 01:24:26,615
I don't think any of us
were really overly concerned.
1698
01:24:26,699 --> 01:24:28,282
It was almost even like
there was more anger,
1699
01:24:28,365 --> 01:24:30,449
like, "Where the hell
is this guy?"
1700
01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:32,407
"What the heck, dude?" "Like,
1701
01:24:32,490 --> 01:24:35,115
the day's gonna start,
and we're leaving today."
1702
01:24:35,198 --> 01:24:37,073
"We wanna know what
the plan is."
1703
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,782
So, we start the search
and kinda looking around.
1704
01:24:41,866 --> 01:24:43,991
Like, I would head out
to the east stage.
1705
01:24:44,073 --> 01:24:45,699
We'd take turns going
to the hangar,
1706
01:24:45,782 --> 01:24:46,907
like that central place
1707
01:24:46,991 --> 01:24:50,490
where the board was,
and kinda the first aid was.
1708
01:24:50,574 --> 01:24:52,991
Well, we just keep walking,
keep walking, keep walking.
1709
01:24:53,073 --> 01:24:55,323
And we keep going back,
and, you know,
1710
01:24:55,407 --> 01:24:57,532
I don't think anybody
had any real sense
1711
01:24:57,615 --> 01:25:03,657
of dread or fear. It was still
more of the "He better be hurt
1712
01:25:03,741 --> 01:25:05,866
because I'm kinda
getting pissed now."
1713
01:25:07,157 --> 01:25:11,282
And then Rob was the one
who finally found out
1714
01:25:11,365 --> 01:25:13,073
what had happened to Dave.
1715
01:25:15,407 --> 01:25:18,073
They said it was hyperthermia.
1716
01:25:18,157 --> 01:25:21,240
His body temperature rose
too high
1717
01:25:21,323 --> 01:25:23,866
when he was at Metallica.
1718
01:25:23,949 --> 01:25:27,866
But for some reason
they administered, you know,
1719
01:25:27,949 --> 01:25:30,574
paddles on him, in line
with what they were thinking
1720
01:25:30,657 --> 01:25:33,407
that he was OD'ing.
1721
01:25:37,949 --> 01:25:40,032
It was crazy
because we didn't do anything.
1722
01:25:40,115 --> 01:25:43,198
We didn't do drugs,
we didn't bring drugs,
1723
01:25:43,282 --> 01:25:46,323
we weren't drinking.
And then you would hear
1724
01:25:46,407 --> 01:25:48,407
nobody really seemed
to take his temperature
1725
01:25:48,490 --> 01:25:51,532
'cause they didn't have
the core thermometers,
1726
01:25:51,615 --> 01:25:55,073
that they weren't treating
him properly.
1727
01:25:55,157 --> 01:25:57,615
They were not prepared.
1728
01:26:00,574 --> 01:26:03,782
Dave was going to a show
to go see his favorite band.
1729
01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:09,532
I just...
1730
01:26:10,824 --> 01:26:14,157
It wasn't really something
you ever thought, you know...
1731
01:26:18,073 --> 01:26:20,323
I just remember thinking like...
1732
01:26:21,490 --> 01:26:22,782
"This didn't happen...
1733
01:26:23,782 --> 01:26:26,157
and somebody's gotta
go call his mom."
1734
01:26:30,490 --> 01:26:32,115
I need to talk to you as well
1735
01:26:32,198 --> 01:26:34,907
regarding public safety
because it was such
1736
01:26:34,991 --> 01:26:36,323
a dangerous atmosphere
out there.
1737
01:26:36,407 --> 01:26:37,574
I was backstage.
1738
01:26:37,657 --> 01:26:40,407
The mosh pit medical unit
looked like
1739
01:26:40,490 --> 01:26:43,282
a Vietnam triage unit,
and not only that,
1740
01:26:43,365 --> 01:26:45,824
but MTV News was forced
to get off of home base.
1741
01:26:45,907 --> 01:26:47,490
We felt that it
was too dangerous,
1742
01:26:47,574 --> 01:26:49,949
there were people throwing
glass bottles everywhere.
1743
01:26:50,032 --> 01:26:52,907
In all of the concerts I've seen-
come on, there were kids,
1744
01:26:52,991 --> 01:26:55,615
I talked to kids later
who were petrified out there.
1745
01:26:55,699 --> 01:26:58,323
- And I'm sorry I'm not-
Excuse me, do you have a question?
1746
01:26:58,407 --> 01:27:00,365
Can I answer your question
or you wanna editorialize?
1747
01:27:00,449 --> 01:27:01,949
If you'd like to editorialize,
come on up
1748
01:27:02,032 --> 01:27:03,824
and you can editorialize
for everybody.
1749
01:27:03,907 --> 01:27:07,449
Can I answer the question
if you'll stop talking?
1750
01:27:07,532 --> 01:27:10,365
MTV set the tone
because they would
1751
01:27:10,449 --> 01:27:14,824
only really go on the air
with people who were pissed off.
1752
01:27:14,907 --> 01:27:17,490
You think that aggro vibe
1753
01:27:17,574 --> 01:27:18,907
had anything to do
with what happened?
1754
01:27:18,991 --> 01:27:20,282
Yeah, I mean,
I definitely think that
1755
01:27:20,365 --> 01:27:23,365
that's what drew the large,
young, white, male,
1756
01:27:23,449 --> 01:27:25,449
frustrated, upper-middle class,
1757
01:27:25,532 --> 01:27:27,115
"I've been given everything
and still I'm mad,
1758
01:27:27,198 --> 01:27:30,323
but I'm not really sure
why I'm mad," kind of attitude.
1759
01:27:30,407 --> 01:27:32,282
As things started to go down
1760
01:27:32,365 --> 01:27:34,490
I remember feeling like things
were literally going out
1761
01:27:34,574 --> 01:27:37,282
of control and there just became
a quintessential moment
1762
01:27:37,365 --> 01:27:39,741
where we were told by our bosses
1763
01:27:39,824 --> 01:27:42,490
"MTV and, like, Viacom
can no longer
1764
01:27:42,574 --> 01:27:45,949
guarantee your safety." Like,
"Run for it", sort of thing.
1765
01:27:46,032 --> 01:27:49,157
And so we packed a van
and we drove in this white van.
1766
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,490
I remember just, like,
speeding through corn fields,
1767
01:27:51,574 --> 01:27:53,866
like, to get away
from the Woodstock set.
1768
01:27:53,949 --> 01:27:56,741
And it really was terrifying.
1769
01:27:56,824 --> 01:27:58,824
MTV news made it into as if
1770
01:27:58,907 --> 01:28:02,157
it was an animal fest,
and it just wasn't.
1771
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,157
Bloodthirsty maniacs trying
to kill me.
1772
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,032
It was disgusting.
I was molested.
1773
01:28:06,115 --> 01:28:08,073
And I hate all men now.
1774
01:28:08,157 --> 01:28:11,240
So it terribly
got manipulated by MTV,
1775
01:28:11,323 --> 01:28:12,949
especially Kurt Loder.
1776
01:28:14,115 --> 01:28:15,949
He just wasn't on the team.
1777
01:28:16,032 --> 01:28:18,490
There have really been
some scary moments here
1778
01:28:18,574 --> 01:28:19,866
just with crowd violence.
1779
01:28:19,949 --> 01:28:21,741
I'm just laughing.
I think Michael, at one point,
1780
01:28:21,824 --> 01:28:23,198
called him a war journalist.
1781
01:28:23,282 --> 01:28:25,574
That was really
what he wanted to be
1782
01:28:25,657 --> 01:28:28,032
and this was as close
as he was gonna come.
1783
01:28:30,907 --> 01:28:32,741
A film crew came through
1784
01:28:32,824 --> 01:28:34,824
and they had the promoters
with them.
1785
01:28:34,907 --> 01:28:38,240
And they stopped right
in front of us basically
1786
01:28:38,323 --> 01:28:39,407
and did a little interview.
1787
01:28:39,490 --> 01:28:43,282
And they talked
about how great everything was
1788
01:28:43,365 --> 01:28:45,032
and what a success it was.
1789
01:28:45,115 --> 01:28:47,866
And we're looking at each other,
thinking like
1790
01:28:47,949 --> 01:28:49,949
"What are these guys
talking about?"
1791
01:28:50,073 --> 01:28:52,282
Knowing full well
that in a few hours
1792
01:28:52,365 --> 01:28:55,949
this place was gonna turn
into a complete shit show.
1793
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,240
We are backstage
at Woodstock '99
1794
01:28:59,323 --> 01:29:02,574
with the Woodstock organizers,
Michael Lang and John Scher.
1795
01:29:02,657 --> 01:29:05,907
How's it going? You look all happy,
things must be going very well.
1796
01:29:05,991 --> 01:29:08,073
So far, so good.
The music's been amazing.
1797
01:29:08,157 --> 01:29:09,949
- Right.
Kids are having a good time.
1798
01:29:10,032 --> 01:29:12,407
The biggest problem
has been a little bit
1799
01:29:12,490 --> 01:29:14,699
of too warm temperature,
1800
01:29:14,782 --> 01:29:16,657
but other than
that we're doing great.
1801
01:29:16,741 --> 01:29:20,240
Woodstock!
1802
01:29:20,323 --> 01:29:24,824
Please welcome
Atlantic recording artist Jewel!
1803
01:29:27,949 --> 01:29:31,574
When I went out,
the crowd felt strange.
1804
01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:34,532
They felt really tired
and very depleted.
1805
01:29:35,866 --> 01:29:38,907
Felt like there was a grey,
dense fog
1806
01:29:38,991 --> 01:29:40,490
hanging over everything,
1807
01:29:40,574 --> 01:29:42,115
and for me to try
and figure out,
1808
01:29:42,198 --> 01:29:43,949
"How do I cut through that?"
1809
01:29:44,032 --> 01:29:46,240
"How do I create a tone,
or a voice, or a sound
1810
01:29:46,323 --> 01:29:49,032
that's gonna cut through
this really strange,
1811
01:29:49,115 --> 01:29:50,449
heavy energy,"
1812
01:29:50,532 --> 01:29:53,574
was definitely at the forefront
of my mind while I'm singing.
1813
01:29:53,657 --> 01:29:56,449
I didn't know what
was going on particularly.
1814
01:29:56,532 --> 01:29:58,991
But you could just feel it.
1815
01:29:59,073 --> 01:30:01,866
I think we should leave.
It's so hot in here.
1816
01:30:02,532 --> 01:30:04,115
I'm so weak.
1817
01:30:04,198 --> 01:30:06,949
- I can't feel my legs anymore.
- Me neither.
1818
01:30:07,032 --> 01:30:09,574
The thing, I think,
that amazes me most
1819
01:30:09,657 --> 01:30:13,532
is that so many people chose
to stay.
1820
01:30:13,615 --> 01:30:15,407
It does seem like
mass psychosis,
1821
01:30:15,490 --> 01:30:17,490
at some point on Sunday.
1822
01:30:17,574 --> 01:30:19,157
Because otherwise I have no idea
like,
1823
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,449
why the hell you're still there.
1824
01:30:21,532 --> 01:30:23,741
- It's filthy.
- Piss and shit everywhere.
1825
01:30:23,824 --> 01:30:25,657
Piss and shit everywhere.
1826
01:30:25,741 --> 01:30:27,073
And you could just tell, like,
1827
01:30:27,157 --> 01:30:30,240
people were not having fun
and happy to be there anymore.
1828
01:30:30,323 --> 01:30:32,490
And after Jewel, Creed played.
1829
01:30:32,574 --> 01:30:35,449
They brought out a guy
from The Doors to play with them,
1830
01:30:35,532 --> 01:30:39,157
but as a 19-year-old, that meant
less than nothing to me.
1831
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,073
They're trotting this guy
out on stage.
1832
01:30:41,157 --> 01:30:43,532
This is Robby Krieger
from The Doors, man.
1833
01:30:45,699 --> 01:30:47,365
There wasn't this excitement
1834
01:30:47,449 --> 01:30:50,657
that I think people would expect
or assume,
1835
01:30:50,741 --> 01:30:54,490
that we had because it just...
it wasn't Woodstock '69.
1836
01:30:54,574 --> 01:30:58,449
But it was our, you know, way
of wanting to kind of bring
1837
01:30:58,532 --> 01:31:02,157
someone from that era to 1999.
1838
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,449
And tie those two festivals
together.
1839
01:31:06,699 --> 01:31:08,365
I remember you look at the crowd
1840
01:31:08,449 --> 01:31:10,699
and the crowd
is all 22 years old,
1841
01:31:10,782 --> 01:31:13,782
and Robby Krieger
could not mean less to them.
1842
01:31:13,866 --> 01:31:15,657
Like, Creed barely means
anything to them.
1843
01:31:17,032 --> 01:31:18,699
Thirty years ago
when this festival
1844
01:31:18,782 --> 01:31:20,157
first started...
1845
01:31:22,282 --> 01:31:23,741
people came together.
1846
01:31:24,574 --> 01:31:25,949
They came together to love.
1847
01:31:29,532 --> 01:31:32,032
They came
together to show the world
1848
01:31:32,115 --> 01:31:34,699
that they could unify
for one cause
1849
01:31:34,782 --> 01:31:36,532
and that
the young people's generation
1850
01:31:36,615 --> 01:31:38,532
could make a difference,
you know that?
1851
01:31:40,198 --> 01:31:43,615
By Sunday, it's not
the market for nostalgia,
1852
01:31:43,699 --> 01:31:47,240
specifically nostalgia
for 30 full years ago.
1853
01:31:53,323 --> 01:31:57,449
As we were walking
from one band to another,
1854
01:31:57,532 --> 01:31:59,407
I started seeing people
with candles
1855
01:31:59,490 --> 01:32:01,741
and I was like,
"Why do you have a candle?"
1856
01:32:01,824 --> 01:32:03,073
And there were more people
with candles
1857
01:32:03,157 --> 01:32:04,824
and more people with candles.
1858
01:32:07,407 --> 01:32:08,741
They handed out candles,
1859
01:32:08,824 --> 01:32:11,365
specifically trying
to get people to set fire to them.
1860
01:32:11,449 --> 01:32:14,115
And hold them aloft, you know,
in a sort
1861
01:32:14,198 --> 01:32:17,157
of Melanie lay down candles
in the rain sort of vibe.
1862
01:32:20,323 --> 01:32:22,073
It makes complete sense.
1863
01:32:22,157 --> 01:32:25,157
It's a horrible irony
that it was a group
1864
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,741
of non-profit volunteers
1865
01:32:27,824 --> 01:32:30,657
who were looking
to hold a vigil in memory
1866
01:32:30,741 --> 01:32:32,365
of the victims of Columbine
1867
01:32:32,449 --> 01:32:34,198
that they handed
these candles off to kids
1868
01:32:34,282 --> 01:32:37,991
who then just torched
everything.
1869
01:32:40,282 --> 01:32:44,657
Hey, if you have at home
or in your car,
1870
01:32:44,741 --> 01:32:46,282
if you have a gun,
1871
01:32:46,365 --> 01:32:50,157
be sure to throw it away,
throw it in the garbage.
1872
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,032
Just get the fuck rid of it.
1873
01:32:53,532 --> 01:32:55,657
Don't need that shit.
1874
01:33:00,782 --> 01:33:02,323
The east stage is on fire.
1875
01:33:02,407 --> 01:33:05,115
- East Stage is still on fire?
- Yeah, they're on fire.
1876
01:33:05,198 --> 01:33:07,782
Hey, they started the east stage
on fire.
1877
01:33:07,866 --> 01:33:09,824
We started to make our way over
1878
01:33:09,907 --> 01:33:13,240
to Red Hot Chili Peppers,
and we can see in the distance
1879
01:33:13,323 --> 01:33:15,032
big fires shooting up
in the sky.
1880
01:33:17,073 --> 01:33:21,907
♪ Sometimes I feel like
I don't have a partner ♪
1881
01:33:21,991 --> 01:33:26,949
♪ Sometimes I feel
Like my only friend ♪
1882
01:33:27,032 --> 01:33:30,240
♪ Is the city I live in... ♪
1883
01:33:31,115 --> 01:33:32,365
Shit, it's real fire.
1884
01:33:32,449 --> 01:33:34,365
What do you guys see?
What do you guys see?
1885
01:33:34,449 --> 01:33:36,490
Yo, the east stage,
fire there with the big trucks.
1886
01:33:36,574 --> 01:33:39,157
- Yeah.
- It's Lord of the Flies down there.
1887
01:33:52,449 --> 01:33:56,615
Hey, guys, as you can see
if you look behind you,
1888
01:33:57,323 --> 01:33:59,198
we have a bit of a problem.
1889
01:33:59,282 --> 01:34:00,949
Chili Peppers
are gonna come back.
1890
01:34:01,032 --> 01:34:04,323
Calm down. We don't want
anybody to get hurt.
1891
01:34:04,407 --> 01:34:07,032
So the fire department
is gonna have to come in
1892
01:34:07,115 --> 01:34:10,532
with a firetruck to put
the fire out.
1893
01:34:10,615 --> 01:34:14,407
If everybody can cooperate,
we'd appreciate it.
1894
01:34:14,490 --> 01:34:18,532
You guys who are back there,
all the way back, near the fire,
1895
01:34:18,615 --> 01:34:20,866
if you can hear me, back away.
1896
01:34:20,949 --> 01:34:22,907
This
is a very dangerous situation.
1897
01:34:22,991 --> 01:34:24,615
Everyone is trying to get out
of here.
1898
01:34:24,699 --> 01:34:26,032
- Yes.
- I think we're going to go.
1899
01:34:26,115 --> 01:34:27,657
So let's back away.
1900
01:34:27,741 --> 01:34:29,407
Let the fire department
do their job.
1901
01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:32,198
Make sure nobody gets hurt.
1902
01:34:37,741 --> 01:34:39,782
That night,
I went to Anthony Kiedis
1903
01:34:39,866 --> 01:34:42,240
and said to him,
"You need to help us.
1904
01:34:42,323 --> 01:34:44,115
We need to quell this crowd
1905
01:34:44,198 --> 01:34:46,949
in order to get there
and take these fires down."
1906
01:34:47,032 --> 01:34:48,198
Holy...
1907
01:34:48,282 --> 01:34:51,866
Holy shit.
It's Apocalypse Now out there.
1908
01:34:54,073 --> 01:34:56,532
Make way for the fire engine.
1909
01:34:57,699 --> 01:34:59,741
You wanna do it?
You wanna do it?
1910
01:34:59,824 --> 01:35:01,699
Fuck you!
1911
01:35:09,699 --> 01:35:11,240
And what he did is went out
1912
01:35:11,323 --> 01:35:14,699
and on his encore played "Fire"
from Jimi Hendrix.
1913
01:35:14,782 --> 01:35:17,365
♪ You don't care for me
I don't-a care about that ♪
1914
01:35:17,449 --> 01:35:20,323
♪ You got a new fool, ha
I like to laugh at ♪
1915
01:35:20,407 --> 01:35:23,073
♪ I have only one
A-burnin' desire ♪
1916
01:35:23,157 --> 01:35:25,282
♪ Okay, let me stand
Next to your fire ♪
1917
01:35:25,365 --> 01:35:27,907
♪ Let me stand
Next to your fire ♪
1918
01:35:27,991 --> 01:35:30,282
♪ Let me stand
Next to your fire ♪
1919
01:35:30,365 --> 01:35:32,949
♪ Let me stand
Next to your fire ♪
1920
01:35:33,032 --> 01:35:35,198
♪ Let me stand
Next to your fire ♪
1921
01:35:36,073 --> 01:35:37,699
♪ Oh, come here, girl ♪
1922
01:35:39,323 --> 01:35:40,907
At that point, the violence
in the crowd
1923
01:35:40,991 --> 01:35:42,615
had already started to spread
and started
1924
01:35:42,699 --> 01:35:44,574
to get really destructive.
1925
01:35:45,866 --> 01:35:48,741
All weekend long
the promoters spoke a lot
1926
01:35:48,824 --> 01:35:51,323
about turning swords
into plow shares,
1927
01:35:51,407 --> 01:35:53,323
but what we saw Sunday night
1928
01:35:53,407 --> 01:35:56,198
was a lot of turning back
into swords.
1929
01:36:23,907 --> 01:36:26,824
Things escalated pretty quickly.
1930
01:36:26,907 --> 01:36:30,365
There was tension in the air,
but by the end of that set,
1931
01:36:30,449 --> 01:36:33,282
it was like a powder keg.
1932
01:36:59,824 --> 01:37:03,532
We kind of graduated from,
like, just trash and wood fires.
1933
01:37:03,615 --> 01:37:05,699
We ended up going to get
into the trucks
1934
01:37:05,782 --> 01:37:07,157
where they had the supplies,
1935
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:08,782
like the food and drinks
and stuff.
1936
01:37:08,866 --> 01:37:11,282
And then
I specifically remember,
1937
01:37:11,365 --> 01:37:13,615
like, one of the trucks
I went into
1938
01:37:13,699 --> 01:37:15,073
had frozen pretzels,
1939
01:37:15,157 --> 01:37:18,073
so we're flinging
frozen pretzels
1940
01:37:18,157 --> 01:37:20,449
through the fire like a bunch
of idiots.
1941
01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:22,490
It's free! Let's go!
1942
01:37:24,032 --> 01:37:25,991
I had more water
Sunday night during the riots
1943
01:37:26,073 --> 01:37:27,991
than I probably had the rest
of the weekend combined.
1944
01:37:28,073 --> 01:37:30,240
Because we finally
had access to all this stuff.
1945
01:37:41,157 --> 01:37:42,407
And that night, you know,
1946
01:37:42,490 --> 01:37:44,490
from the Chili Peppers' set
onward,
1947
01:37:44,574 --> 01:37:47,240
like, we had the power
at that point,
1948
01:37:47,323 --> 01:37:49,490
like, we controlled everything
that was happening
1949
01:37:49,574 --> 01:37:51,115
from that point forward.
1950
01:37:53,115 --> 01:37:55,699
It did feel like
this unifying force,
1951
01:37:55,782 --> 01:37:59,574
like these are my people now,
and we're gonna go crazy.
1952
01:38:09,198 --> 01:38:12,115
And I don't know, I'm not a guy,
I never in a million years
1953
01:38:12,198 --> 01:38:14,615
would have thought I'd somehow
gotten drawn into a riot,
1954
01:38:14,699 --> 01:38:19,115
but, man, it just... it was just
kind of... it just happened.
1955
01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:49,157
It's like a 20-dollar
fucking value box.
1956
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,240
- How much did you pay for 'em?
- Free!
1957
01:38:51,323 --> 01:38:52,866
- And jackets.
- Free!
1958
01:38:52,949 --> 01:38:54,991
When kids
are ripping open ATM machines
1959
01:38:55,073 --> 01:38:56,365
with their bare hands
1960
01:38:56,449 --> 01:38:59,699
and lighting Mercedes-Benzes
on fire,
1961
01:38:59,782 --> 01:39:03,657
I mean, they're telling you
what they think of your greed.
1962
01:39:28,115 --> 01:39:29,615
I mean, it's a little concerning
1963
01:39:29,699 --> 01:39:32,657
that I could go from, like,
a pretty mild-mannered kid
1964
01:39:32,741 --> 01:39:36,198
on day one and then
by midnight on Sunday,
1965
01:39:36,282 --> 01:39:38,699
it is straight Lord of the Flies
out there,
1966
01:39:38,782 --> 01:39:41,532
and I'm losing my damn mind
like an idiot.
1967
01:39:41,615 --> 01:39:43,657
When in Rome, I guess,
I don't know.
1968
01:39:58,198 --> 01:40:00,240
Turn that fucking camera off.
1969
01:40:00,323 --> 01:40:02,449
They've got the cops here now.
1970
01:40:06,157 --> 01:40:08,949
Fucking you better
be worried, guy.
1971
01:40:15,115 --> 01:40:17,240
When things started
to get really bad,
1972
01:40:17,323 --> 01:40:19,866
I had everybody turn
their shirts inside out
1973
01:40:19,949 --> 01:40:22,574
and put their credentials
down inside their shirts
1974
01:40:22,657 --> 01:40:25,824
because I didn't know if,
you know,
1975
01:40:25,907 --> 01:40:28,365
we were all of a sudden
gonna become targets maybe.
1976
01:40:35,657 --> 01:40:37,741
When the police
finally did roll in,
1977
01:40:37,824 --> 01:40:39,365
you know, it was like hats
and bats
1978
01:40:39,449 --> 01:40:42,282
and shields and, you know,
here they came.
1979
01:40:42,365 --> 01:40:45,699
- Here we go.
- Party's over.
1980
01:40:45,782 --> 01:40:47,532
This is outta control!
1981
01:40:51,282 --> 01:40:54,991
You know, we're a bunch
of 20-year-old white kids,
1982
01:40:55,073 --> 01:40:56,949
so when we start burning
a bunch of stuff down
1983
01:40:57,032 --> 01:40:58,782
and, like, stealing from ATMs
1984
01:40:58,866 --> 01:41:01,282
and just burning
this whole thing down,
1985
01:41:01,365 --> 01:41:03,991
the riot police,
they come in very polite,
1986
01:41:04,073 --> 01:41:05,449
you know,
and just move people out.
1987
01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:08,907
Man, they talk about
white privileges like, Jesus Christ,
1988
01:41:08,991 --> 01:41:11,824
like if this was a
hip-hop festival in 2020
1989
01:41:11,907 --> 01:41:13,282
and people started burning
it down,
1990
01:41:13,365 --> 01:41:15,198
it would not go so nicely.
1991
01:41:19,115 --> 01:41:20,866
Yeah, dude, you're the man.
1992
01:41:23,282 --> 01:41:25,699
There was a sense
of all the people
1993
01:41:25,782 --> 01:41:28,365
who were rioting
for lack of a better term,
1994
01:41:28,449 --> 01:41:31,949
at that point,
were kind of like together
1995
01:41:32,032 --> 01:41:33,907
in that rioting, you know.
It was like,
1996
01:41:33,991 --> 01:41:36,115
they finally all had
a sense of purpose.
1997
01:41:36,198 --> 01:41:39,365
Listen, look right there.
See the little yellow light?
1998
01:41:39,449 --> 01:41:41,073
That means
we've got five minutes left
1999
01:41:41,157 --> 01:41:43,490
till the end of Woodstock 1999.
2000
01:41:44,615 --> 01:41:47,615
Okay, so we have a time
for one more song.
2001
01:41:47,699 --> 01:41:49,282
And then
it just couldn't have been
2002
01:41:49,365 --> 01:41:52,532
planned better, you know,
with Megadeth closing.
2003
01:41:52,615 --> 01:41:56,323
And closing with their tune
"Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?"
2004
01:41:56,407 --> 01:41:59,282
♪ Peace sells
But who's buying? ♪
2005
01:41:59,365 --> 01:42:01,741
♪ Peace sells
But who's buying? ♪
2006
01:42:01,824 --> 01:42:03,866
We are in a service business.
2007
01:42:03,949 --> 01:42:06,157
Those of us who are troubadours.
2008
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,198
And what's happened
is along the way
2009
01:42:09,282 --> 01:42:11,699
the tax collector came in.
2010
01:42:11,782 --> 01:42:14,240
People are sick
of being ripped off.
2011
01:42:14,323 --> 01:42:16,949
This was a great time,
but there's no way
2012
01:42:17,032 --> 01:42:20,073
it was worth paying four dollars
for a water.
2013
01:42:20,157 --> 01:42:23,699
I mean, they were all
about making money off us
2014
01:42:23,782 --> 01:42:26,323
and we're all about getting
wasted and partying.
2015
01:42:26,407 --> 01:42:29,615
I mean, it's just not cool
and we're pissed.
2016
01:42:29,699 --> 01:42:32,699
You know, the question really
very quickly
2017
01:42:32,782 --> 01:42:37,198
became, not "How could this
have happened?"
2018
01:42:37,282 --> 01:42:38,907
But "How could it not?"
2019
01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:42,782
John, there was a kind
2020
01:42:42,866 --> 01:42:47,240
of gradual breakdown
of the whole infrastructure
2021
01:42:47,323 --> 01:42:48,949
and as the day went on
2022
01:42:49,032 --> 01:42:51,449
I didn't really see much
of a presence at all
2023
01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:52,907
of the security guards
except maybe
2024
01:42:52,991 --> 01:42:54,574
at some of the gates.
2025
01:42:54,657 --> 01:42:55,949
Can you speak to that?
2026
01:42:56,032 --> 01:42:59,032
Where were the guards
when the fires were being set?
2027
01:42:59,115 --> 01:43:01,907
You know,
I think I used this term then,
2028
01:43:01,991 --> 01:43:03,949
there were a bunch
of knuckleheads.
2029
01:43:04,991 --> 01:43:07,365
You know? A bunch
of knuckleheads
2030
01:43:07,449 --> 01:43:10,407
that caused those problems
2031
01:43:10,490 --> 01:43:12,699
and despite those problems,
2032
01:43:12,782 --> 01:43:14,866
the overwhelming number
of people
2033
01:43:14,949 --> 01:43:18,282
that attended had a great time.
2034
01:43:18,365 --> 01:43:23,240
Really the biggest problem
was that MTV set the tone
2035
01:43:23,323 --> 01:43:26,198
so we got killed in the press
2036
01:43:26,282 --> 01:43:32,991
and I didn't figure
on Fred Durst inciting a riot.
2037
01:43:36,699 --> 01:43:39,365
About three months
after Woodstock '99,
2038
01:43:39,449 --> 01:43:42,657
the first iteration
of Coachella debuts.
2039
01:43:42,741 --> 01:43:45,657
And you couldn't ask
for a more stark
2040
01:43:45,741 --> 01:43:49,532
like Goofus and Gallant version
of music festivals at this time.
2041
01:43:51,407 --> 01:43:54,699
It was in Palm Springs,
and it was balmy.
2042
01:43:54,782 --> 01:43:56,115
There's Bjork performing
2043
01:43:56,198 --> 01:43:58,449
and there's enlightened,
progressive hip-hop.
2044
01:43:58,532 --> 01:44:01,073
Coachella '99 really
was everything
2045
01:44:01,157 --> 01:44:04,198
Woodstock '99 should have been.
2046
01:44:05,574 --> 01:44:07,240
When people were walking in,
2047
01:44:07,323 --> 01:44:09,157
they were handed
a free water bottle.
2048
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,657
There was free parking. I mean,
2049
01:44:10,741 --> 01:44:13,741
those two things seemed like
they were in direct response
2050
01:44:13,824 --> 01:44:16,741
to the excesses
at Woodstock '99.
2051
01:44:17,949 --> 01:44:21,365
I will say, however,
that as Coachella progresses,
2052
01:44:21,449 --> 01:44:24,323
and this is also true
of all the big festivals now,
2053
01:44:24,407 --> 01:44:27,157
it's pretty clear
that the power dynamics
2054
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:28,365
that come into play
2055
01:44:28,449 --> 01:44:31,490
haven't really changed,
it's just that they're cleaner.
2056
01:44:31,574 --> 01:44:33,657
And if you wanna assert
your power,
2057
01:44:33,741 --> 01:44:36,157
you just have to be
a really wealthy person
2058
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,615
who can afford to be backstage
and look
2059
01:44:38,699 --> 01:44:42,657
at all the people out there
who aren't as lucky as you are.
2060
01:44:42,741 --> 01:44:44,824
And then you're gonna be able
to take photos of yourself
2061
01:44:44,907 --> 01:44:47,824
and show the world
that you are someone
2062
01:44:47,907 --> 01:44:49,699
who literally has a badge
on themselves
2063
01:44:49,782 --> 01:44:52,365
that says,
"Very Important Person."
2064
01:44:52,449 --> 01:44:54,782
I think progress
is all fits and starts, right?
2065
01:44:54,866 --> 01:44:58,907
It's never one direction,
it's never completely linear.
2066
01:44:58,991 --> 01:45:02,449
And with the explosion
that was Woodstock '99,
2067
01:45:02,532 --> 01:45:05,198
there is a definite
umbilical cord
2068
01:45:05,282 --> 01:45:08,741
between the dark,
sexual, cultural,
2069
01:45:08,824 --> 01:45:12,032
political underbelly
in the country at that time
2070
01:45:12,115 --> 01:45:14,866
to where we are now.
2071
01:45:14,949 --> 01:45:18,407
A lot of that energy that was
permeating that crowd that day,
2072
01:45:18,490 --> 01:45:21,532
it just wound up in chatrooms
and Reddit boards,
2073
01:45:21,615 --> 01:45:24,198
and it's just fascinating
to think about
2074
01:45:24,282 --> 01:45:26,365
because I don't know
if it's possible to get
2075
01:45:26,449 --> 01:45:28,991
that collection
of people together
2076
01:45:29,073 --> 01:45:33,490
in 2021 without it
being a cause for concern.
2077
01:45:34,991 --> 01:45:37,490
To me, the ultimate tragedy
of Woodstock '99,
2078
01:45:37,574 --> 01:45:40,866
is that almost all the problems
that occurred that weekend
2079
01:45:40,949 --> 01:45:44,949
were foreseeable ahead of time,
and therefore preventable.
2080
01:45:45,032 --> 01:45:47,699
This again speaks
to the mythology of Woodstock.
2081
01:45:47,782 --> 01:45:49,949
That this was almost like
magic fairy pixie dust
2082
01:45:50,032 --> 01:45:52,073
or something that you could just
sprinkle...
2083
01:45:52,157 --> 01:45:54,157
over all this poor planning
2084
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,574
and because it was Woodstock,
it would work.
2085
01:45:56,657 --> 01:45:59,574
But, when you take off
the rose-colored glasses,
2086
01:45:59,657 --> 01:46:01,907
and look at Woodstock
and what it actually was,
2087
01:46:01,991 --> 01:46:04,073
it was about sequestering
yourself from society
2088
01:46:04,157 --> 01:46:05,824
and really living the kind
of life
2089
01:46:05,907 --> 01:46:09,240
that wouldn't be sustained,
like if we all did that.
2090
01:46:09,323 --> 01:46:11,699
Like if we all went into a field
with no police,
2091
01:46:11,782 --> 01:46:16,323
do a lot of drugs and listen
to rock music all day long,
2092
01:46:16,407 --> 01:46:18,741
I mean, things would fall apart,
I think, pretty quickly.
2093
01:46:25,490 --> 01:46:28,157
At the Woodstock '99 concert
2094
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,782
in Central New York,
what was supposed
2095
01:46:30,866 --> 01:46:34,032
to be three days
of peace, love and music,
2096
01:46:34,115 --> 01:46:35,949
ended in a night of looting...
2097
01:46:36,032 --> 01:46:37,323
Commercialism,
2098
01:46:37,407 --> 01:46:39,782
that's what some people say led
to the fall of Woodstock '99.
2099
01:46:39,866 --> 01:46:41,949
I mean, the kids were hungry,
they were thirsty, they were...
2100
01:46:42,032 --> 01:46:45,157
The fires were put out this morning
and most festival goers
2101
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,615
had left the site by 9:00 a.m.,
but the Woodstock name
2102
01:46:48,699 --> 01:46:50,115
may have sustained
lasting damage.
2103
01:46:50,198 --> 01:46:52,157
First person
charged with sexual violence
2104
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,157
at last weekend's
Woodstock festival
2105
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,782
turns out to be
a New York state prison guard.
2106
01:46:56,866 --> 01:46:58,115
The prison guard was charged
2107
01:46:58,198 --> 01:47:00,574
with sexually assaulting
a 15-year-old girl.
2108
01:47:00,657 --> 01:47:03,866
Here's another horror story
from Woodstock '99 today.
2109
01:47:03,949 --> 01:47:07,449
The police are now investigating
four cases of women
2110
01:47:07,532 --> 01:47:09,157
alleging they were raped.
2111
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,073
One woman says she was attacked
right in front of the stage
2112
01:47:12,157 --> 01:47:15,991
as the band played on
and a lot of people stood by.
2113
01:47:20,449 --> 01:47:22,657
Had we programmed this more
2114
01:47:22,741 --> 01:47:26,657
along the lines of '94 or '69,
2115
01:47:26,741 --> 01:47:28,615
it would have been
a different event
2116
01:47:28,699 --> 01:47:30,615
and attracted
a different audience.
2117
01:47:32,365 --> 01:47:34,782
But the intention here
was to do something
2118
01:47:34,866 --> 01:47:36,574
very contemporary,
2119
01:47:36,657 --> 01:47:39,907
and that's what
contemporary was.
2120
01:47:41,365 --> 01:47:43,824
Do you think there'll
ever be another Woodstock?
2121
01:47:47,323 --> 01:47:49,490
There always
could be another Woodstock.
2122
01:47:49,574 --> 01:47:52,741
I mean, I've just learned
never to say never about that.
2123
01:48:34,657 --> 01:48:36,490
We're taking steps
to protect everybody.
2124
01:48:36,574 --> 01:48:39,240
We want it to be
a completely safe event.
2125
01:48:39,323 --> 01:48:42,032
You know, there will be
zero tolerance for anything,
2126
01:48:42,115 --> 01:48:45,949
you know, other than, you know,
proper behavior.
2127
01:48:53,574 --> 01:48:55,782
♪ When we were young
The future was so bright ♪
2128
01:48:55,866 --> 01:48:58,157
♪ The old neighborhood
Was so alive ♪
2129
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,699
♪ And every kid
On the whole damn street ♪
2130
01:49:00,782 --> 01:49:03,115
♪ Was gonna make it big
And not be beat ♪
2131
01:49:03,198 --> 01:49:05,323
♪ Now the neighborhood's cracked
And torn ♪
2132
01:49:05,407 --> 01:49:07,615
♪ The kids are grown up
But their lives are worn ♪
2133
01:49:07,699 --> 01:49:11,824
♪ How can one little street
Swallow so many lives? ♪
2134
01:49:11,907 --> 01:49:16,866
♪ Chances thrown
Nothing's free ♪
2135
01:49:16,949 --> 01:49:21,449
♪ Longing for used to be ♪
2136
01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:26,323
♪ Still it's hard, hard to see ♪
2137
01:49:26,407 --> 01:49:31,615
♪ Fragile lives
Shattered dreams ♪
2138
01:49:31,699 --> 01:49:32,991
♪ Go! ♪
2139
01:49:50,574 --> 01:49:55,407
♪ Chances thrown
Nothing's free ♪
2140
01:49:55,490 --> 01:49:59,991
♪ Longing for, used to be ♪
2141
01:50:00,073 --> 01:50:04,907
♪ Still it's hard, hard to see ♪
2142
01:50:04,991 --> 01:50:09,949
♪ Fragile lives
Shattered dreams ♪
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