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[birds chirping]

[witness 1 speaking in Bosnian]
I've dreamt of it many times,

as if I see it in front of me,

night or day, but…

the place seemed different, undefined…

somehow strange…

[Catherine over earphones, in English]
Would you like to rest?

Should we have a little break?

Oh.

[in Bosnian] No, no, I want to say it.

They were shooting at us.
Then my brother fell over me.

I closed my eyes
and I felt something wet over me.

And that was all…

I remember, later it got cold,
I felt very, very cold.

Then I got up, when darkness fell.

I knew that no one else was alive.
This I knew without doubt.

[witness 2, in Bosnian] First thing I saw
was the minaret. It was in flames.

And two or three houses
at the other end of the village.

The men carried torches
and canisters with gas,

and the raincoats were to protect them
from the fire.

I was holding my mother by the hand,
as if to encourage her.

They started shouting:

"Let go, separate!"

"Men go to this side, women to that side."

My mother was old and very ill.

[Finn over earphones, in English]
Do you recognise

any of the men on the photo
in front of you?

[in Bosnian] I never saw my mother again.

[Catherine, in English]
When you did the burials,

was it on June 8th or 9th?

[witness 3, in Bosnian]
Some women say it was the 8th,

some say the 9th.

I don't remember.

We had only two spades,
and we dug in shifts.

It took a long time. The earth was dry.

But we buried them all, all 11 men.

[Finn, in English]
I need some clarification.

Could it be
that it all was happening in July?

[in Bosnian] No, no, it was June.
I remember the poppies.

Poppies bloom in June.

[birds chirping]

[wind instrument plays]

[judge, in English]
You have denied as untrue,

all testimonies of the witnesses,
stating that you have been seen,

acting as a commanding officer
of military troops.

[in Bosnian] One winter I wore
an old military trench coat,

but, perhaps, I'd save some of your time
if I told you that I don't know

any of the witnesses that spoke here.

I am a teacher. A Serbian teacher.

By education and by vocation.

For 30 years,
I've being teaching the children

in the Bratunac region
to speak and write correctly.

-I have taught them…
-[judge, in English] I am warning you

that you should answer only the questions
you've been asked

and only in direct relevance
to these questions.

[bangs]

[in Bosnian] I don't know any
of the witnesses that spoke here.

I'm a hundred percent sure.

Yes, I've definitely been
in the area of Bratunac,

because I live there, I was born there.

My parents were born there.

My grandparents on my father's side
were born there.

My grandparents on my mother's side too.

[gavel bangs]

[in English] I believe it's high time
to close this trial.

Not only because the prosecutor
hasn't brought so far

any reasonable evidence against my client,

but also the total absence

of constructive legal ideas
creates a vacuum

that compromises the Tribunal itself.

[piano music plays]

[ball thuds]

-[keys jingle]
-[sighs]

[door opens]

[door closes]

[woman] All rise!

Good morning.

The court announces
a "semi-closed" session.

[machine clicks, whirs]

[Deyan, in Bosnian]
I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth

and nothing but the truth.

[in English]
Is the name written here yours?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.

[in English] You may take your seat, sir.

[Deyan, in Bosnian] May I stand?

[Catherine, in English]
We'll ask you a few questions.

If you don't understand
any of the questions,

please, do not hesitate to ask
for clarification.

Witness K-109, where are you from?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] I don't know exactly
where I was born,

because I was abandoned as a child.

I've lived in seven homes
for abandoned children,

but I know that I'm from Bosnia.

[in English] But I am from Bosnia.

[prosecutor] How did you get involved

with a Serbian paramilitary organisation
named Guardia?

[in Bosnian] I was playing football in
school, we were the regional champions.

Later, we used to play
in a sports' hall in Zvornik.

[modulated voice] I met there with guys
who were training to be guards,

we became friends.

They enlisted because they were Serbs,
and I did because I wanted to play.

[prosecutor, in English]
And what is your religion?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] I am an orphan,
I don't know.

I don't know
what my parents' religion was.

[in English] What was your position
in Guardia?

[in Bosnian] Soldier.

Volunteer, it's the same.

[in English] Are you ready
for the identification?

-[Deyan, in Bosnian] Now?
-[in English] Yes.

[Deyan, in Bosnian] I am ready.

[in English] Bring in the defendant.

[door opens]

[Catherine] The defendant,

do you recognise the individual
at the witness's bench?

[in Bosnian] No.

[Catherine, in English] Witness K-109,

do you recognise the individual seated
at the defendant's bench?

[in Bosnian] Yes.

[Catherine, in English]
Who do you know him to be?

[in Bosnian] This is my
military commander, Milorad Krstić.

[Deyan] May I sit down?

[Catherine, in English] Were you under
Milorad Krstic's command

in the region of Bratunac
and specially in the village of Gologva,

between the 9th and the 12th of May?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.

[in English] Witness K-109,

did you take part in the arson
of the mosque and the Muslims' houses

in the above-mentioned village
in the evening of the 9th of May, 1992?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.

[Catherine, in English]
Could you tell us about it?

[in Bosnian] We started from Zvornik.
We reached the village around 5:30 p.m.

Our commanders went
to the House of Culture.

We split in groups, as planned.

-[indistinct dialogue]
-[in English] Jesus, finally!

This is a break-through!

Save a slot in the prime news, guys!

[Deyan, in Bosnian] …we had orders
to set the houses on fire…

[in Bosnian] I don't know this boy!

[in English] The defendant Krstić,
you are not allowed to speak

without our permission!

After you set
all the Muslims' houses on fire,

after the men were separated
from the women

and the women were driven away,
what happened to the men?

[Deyan, in Bosnian]
We took them to the school.

[in English] Did anyone protest?

Did you shoot at them?

[in Bosnian] There were casualties.

One in the beginning.

His wife didn't want to let his hand go.
They were still in front of their house.

He was young.

And another one, much older,
who didn't want to get in the classroom.

They… we shot him in the corridor.

As for the bodies,
I don't know where they took them.

Just two of them.

[in English] Is it true that the women
who didn't want to leave were mistreated?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.

[in English] Tell us about it.

[Deyan, in Bosnian]
There were seven or eight.

Eight women.

Two of them were very old.
The others were younger.

We took them to a white house
in the northern end of the village,

in the basement. I had to keep guard.

[Catherine, in English] Were the women
in the white house raped?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes.

[in English] Did you see it happening?

[in Bosnian] At first I only heard
their screams. Then I saw it.

[in English] Was the defendant Krstić

inside the white house
during these events?

-[prosecutor] No translation.
-[interpreter sobs]

-Is she Bosnian?
-I don't know.

[interpreter] I'm sorry.

[Catherine] Was the defendant Krstić

inside the white house
during these events?

[Deyan, in Bosnian] Yes, he was.

[Finn, in English] Your Honour,
I have several questions for the witness.

[judge] Mr. Finn, you'll ask
your questions in the next session.

These questions are of utmost importance.

[judge] Court will now recess.

Just one question!

-[judge] It's recess.
-[gavel bangs]

[indistinct chattering]

[choir singing "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel"]

[Finn] I have to be absolutely sincere.

[interpreter, in Bosnian]
I have to be sincere.

[in English] In fact,
we're starting from scratch again.

[in Bosnian]
We have to start from scratch again.

[in English] We have to concentrate.
We have to find something to start with.

[in Bosnian] We have to concentrate.
We have to find something to start with.

[in English] Maybe that white house.

[in Bosnian] Maybe that white house.

What bloody white house, boy?

-[Finn, in English] What did he say?
-What, what white house?

You must know that boy from somewhere.

And look at me, damn it, I'm your lawyer.

[interpreter speaking in Bosnian]
You must know this boy…

[in Bosnian] I don't know this boy.

[interpreter, in English]
He doesn't know him.

If I can't comprehend why he told us
this story, if it's not true,

I can't do anything else
and in fact I will be of no use to you.

[interpreter, in Bosnian]
If I can't comprehend

why he told us this story,
if it's not true,

I can't do anything else
and I won't be of any use to you.

[in Bosnian]
God himself can't help you understand.

It's something different,
it's in our blood.

We are born with it.

[in English]
God himself can't make you understand.

[in Bosnian]
"My Bosnia is land of hatred."

"Anyone who didn't want to hate
has become a stranger, a freak,

and often, a martyr."

[Finn, in English] So, what did he say?

He's talking about hatred,

but it's impossible
to translate his words.

What about hatred?

[interpreter]
He quoted one of our writers, Ivo Andric.

[scoffs]

-May I ask you something?
-[keys jingling]

-Do you choose your clients yourself?
-[gate opens]

-You're judging me?
-[gate closes]

No, I'm not judging you. It's…

It's just important that I know that.

[Finn]
I felt your hostility towards my client.

Of course, I have no idea
what you've been through,

what you experienced,
but I know exactly how you feel about me.

You think that I'm unscrupulous person,
interested only in money.

A man without moral.

[interpreter] When they took
all Muslim men to the school

and the women to the buses,

the Dutch military man, uh,
told the Serbian officer,

that I'm their translator
and they need me.

Then the Serb told me: "You can go now

but I can't promise that one of my boys
won't shoot you in the back."

I didn't translate this to the Dutchman,
I was ashamed to.

And he didn't ask me to, so I went.

Nobody shot me.

I reached the buses and got in one.

I've asked myself
a thousand times after that,

what did the Dutchman understand?

Did he understand what's going on?

In that school I left my father, my uncle,

two cousins and my friends.

That Serb, when he let me go
and he was laughing,

he had a feeling he was God himself.

He didn't care about anything human.

They don't need protection.

If law didn't exist as a regulator
of relations between men,

the world would be a horrible place.

Something like that school of yours
that day.

I know what I'm talking about, believe me.

You have to look forward.

Life can be beautiful, too.

My life was beautiful
when my father was alive.

I hate make-up.

I never wear make-up in real life.

It feels like cheap and naive lie.

But it's not a lie, ma'am.
It's because of the light.

With make-up on,
you'll look like your real self.

That's why we do it. So…

-Is it okay if I continue?
-[Catherine] Yeah.

Listen Marijn, file a request

for an immediate replacement
of the interpreter.

No, he's… he's excellent.

Can you arrange a meeting
with an officer from the Dutch battalion?

Uh, yes, the peacekeepers.

Mm-hm. And also, I want you
to find somebody to go to Bosnia,

to the village of Gologva immediately.

I need information
about certain white houses.

[ball thuds]

[host] You have an important witness.

And finally you have a chance
to reverse the outcome of the trial.

The particularities are to remain
within the Tribunal.

Will you show him to the press?

Is he a man or a woman?

Proving the truth
is a long and complex process.

Often it's even painful.

I've avoided public appearances
over the last year and a half,

because none of your colleagues ever asked
the one and only question of importance:

What do I truly believe in?

What do you believe in?

I believe in the supreme justice of law.

That's my personal religion.

And this is exactly the goal
of this trial which I'm leading.

Justice for the victims in Bosnia.

The entire democratic world
is hoping for justice.

And a successful outcome of the trial,
which you are entrusted to lead, but…

I have been in Bosnia.

I've seen the mothers in black.

I saw the women who had to bury
their husbands themselves.

I held their hands.

[upbeat music plays]

[door opens, closes]

[metal clanging]

[indistinct dialogue on TV]

[wind instrument plays]

[in Bosnian] White… white house?

[clears throat]

[marker rustling]

[Finn, in Bosnian] School?

Okay?

[in Bosnian] Yes.

We did separate them.

But I don't know this boy.

[dramatic music playing]

[indistinct dialogue on TV]

[Finn] Do you know somebody in Bosnia,

somebody who could look
for someone's relatives.

-If anyone has survived?
-Yes, I know such people.

I'm able to give you
some information that could help.

And you should know
that money is of no importance.

Uh…

-Oops! [grunts]
-Sorry!

[in Dutch] Shit happens.

[in English] Where was I? Uh…

Uh, you should know
that you will be paid for it.

Uh, I'm a lawyer.

It's important for the outcome
of the case, I've been hired.

I am from the Dutch Army,
speciality "peacekeeping missions"!

I didn't do it for the money,
we went there to help!

Then they started investigations,
they wanted reports.

It was a shame for Holland,
but where was Holland then?

People from America, from the CIA,

they took pictures, every six hours.

Uh, no, coffee.

You can see on one of the pictures

many men walking
with their hands tied behind their backs.

On the bank of a river,
the same river we used to patrol.

They say it was clearly visible.

And then in the same picture
six hours later,

the men are gone.

And the ground nearby is freshly dug.

That's where they ended up.

But I swear,

we did not see anything.

We did not even hear about it.

-[man, in Dutch] Cheers, Bart!
-Fuck you!

[in English] Do you know such people
who can do what I'm asking for?

Because it's… it's very
important for me.

Yes, I know such people.

For a little money
they can even recover a corpse.

Give me two days.

[indistinct chattering]

[piano music plays]

[bird cawing]

[Jasna, in Bosnian]
We agreed on a certain fee.

[man speaking in Bosnian]

[in English] They say they didn't
get enough information.

They didn't have enough time.

No, no, no, I gave them the information
I was able to. He knows that!

But they had to make a lot of payments,

and they won't give you the address
if you don't pay in advance.

[machine whirring]

[whirring continues]

[Finn] All right.

Is there any cash machine somewhere here?

Fiko!

[machine whirring fades]

What are they, Christians? Muslims?

I have no idea. It's really hard to tell.

Entire countries can't find
a missing person, how come they can?

They earn on people's grief, on death.

-[Finn] Are you from Sarajevo?
-[Jasna] Yes.

[Finn] Since when haven't you been here?

[Jasna] Almost a year,
but for Sarajevo, it's a lot. A lot.

[upbeat music plays on radio]

[man sings in Bosnian]

[driver speaking in Bosnian]
Follow this road.

I'll come to pick you up tomorrow morning,
I can't wait here in the dark.

Tell him the price stays the same.

[car door closes]

[car engine revs]

[in English] Jasna.

Did I pronounce it correctly?

Quite right.

-Right, Jasna.
-Yeah.

Do I ask myself will we have a roof

over our heads tonight
or should I better not?

[Jasna] Leave this to God, it's his job.
[chuckles]

-[Finn] Sure?
-[Jasna] Yeah.

-[Finn] What's so funny?
-[Jasna] Well… [chuckles]

[dog barks]

[Jasna speaking in Bosnia] Do you know
where Lekić's house is? Alexander Lekić.

[woman speaking in Bosnian] Over there,
the house at the back. There he lives.

-The back house, over there.
-[Jasna] Good, thank you.

-[woman] You're welcome.
-[Finn, in English] Thank you.

What does she say?

[Jasna] Just straight up.

[cow mooing]

[sniffs, chuckles]

[knocks on door]

Hmm. What do you think? [sniffs]

-[door opens, creaks]
-[in Bosnian] Good evening.

This man is from abroad.
He would like to talk to you.

It's important.

[horse neighs]

Thank you.

[door opens, closes]

[in English] Thank you, sir.

[Jasna, in Bosnian] Do you have a son?

[in Bosnian] We have no money.

[Jasna, in English]
They don't have any money.

[in Bosnian] It's not for the money.
This man is a Dutch lawyer.

He paid some locals to find you.

He thinks your son is alive.

[in Bosnian]
We've already paid twice to find him.

[in English] They have paid twice
to find him.

Do you have a picture of your son?

[in Bosnian]
Do you have a picture of the boy?

Everything remained in the house,

after the war we couldn't find anything.

We used to have lots of pictures.

Does he have a picture of that boy?

[in English]
Do you have a picture of the boy?

No, I don't.

The boy is in prison in the Hague,
the Netherlands.

Taking pictures is not allowed there.

The only way for you to check
if it is your boy

is to come with me to Holland.

Don't worry about the money.

[Jasna, in Bosnian]
He's certain it's your son.

[Finn, in English]
Does your son play football?

[indistinct chattering]

Hi.

I have the explicit verbal permission
of the senior officer

of the night shift to visit K-109.

It will be for no more
than ten minutes. Thank you.

[door opens]

Please, remain seated.

Do you like the food?

Is it good?

The food?

[chuckles softy]

Hmm.

I…

[sighs] I just wanted to make sure
that, uh, everything is all right for you.

Do you understand me?

No.

No?

No.

You've got some…

thing…

You've got some… Here.

Well, have a nice evening…

[exhales]

…and, uh…

good night.

[door closes]

-[chuckles]
-[switch clicks]

[woman, in Bosnian] Cross yourself.

[whispers] Please.

[soft music plays]

-[in English] Here, try.
-[piano music plays]

[music plays louder]

-[music volume decreases]
-Do you like it?

[inhales, exhales]

[Lekic, in Bosnian]
Before the war, we had many animals.

Cows, sheep, chicken.

We were doing okay.
We had everything we needed.

I was thinking about buying a horse, too.

I wanted a good one,
but they were expensive.

The war took all the animals. They died.

Except for the horses. They reproduced.

They mated as they pleased.
Beautiful young horses were born.

But they went completely wild.

They don't want to be
with us humans anymore.

[birds chirping]

[Jasna, in English]
She wants to give you a present.

You must accept it.

She made it herself.

They managed to preserve it
throughout the war.

Now she wants you to have it.

[Finn] Nice.

Thank you. I…

[Jasna] Is it okay if I take a picture,
as a souvenir?

[in Bosnian] Can I take a picture?

-[in English] Well, okay.
-So, yeah.

If you can stand, maybe, there somewhere?

[in Bosnian] Over there, please?

[in English] Please.

[Jasna, in Bosnian] Smile! Cheese!

[camera shutter clicks]

[Jasna, in Bosnian] Thanks for everything.

[Jasna, in English] He's a Christian
and she's a Muslim,

but they stayed together.

I really hope this boy is their son.

[Finn] Now, I'm scared.
What if it is not their son?

[upbeat music plays]

[Jasna] Are you married?

I had a brief marriage,
but that was a long time ago.

I haven't got children,
if this is what you want to know.

Nothing bad is going to happen
to their son, right?

You are not using him
for you own sake, are you?

Because, well, I trusted you.
And these people are very kind.

[man singing in Bosnian]

[in Bosnian] Are you going abroad?

Yes, abroad.

West?

-West.
-Lucky you.

[in English] I could tell
you haven't got children.

It's always obvious.

You people from the West
are… more different.

-In what sense? Worse?
-[chuckles lightly]

You're more reserved, more quiet.

More… polite,

-more balanced, more…
-Boring?

Yeah. [laughs]

Well… [chuckles]

[inhales] You know?

I am a grandson of emigrants.

My grandfather came from Russia.

He travelled half of Europe
before settling in Sweden.

My father was born
somewhere along the way.

My grandfather remained a foreigner.

He never learned the language.

I never met him,
he died before I was born.

I never had grandparents, neither.

[sighs] So I know how you feel.

-[Jasna] Do you speak Russian?
-No, not really. Unfortunately, no.

What about your father?

My father is, um… an old man.

Did he speak Russian?

-[Finn] He did.
-He did?

-He should have taught you.
-[Finn] He should have.

[Jasna] For what did you leave Sweden?

Since my mother died,
there was no reason to stay.

[birds chirping]

[aircraft hovering overhead]

[birds cawing]

[indistinct chattering]

This is Amsterdam.

Amsterdam?

Ajax?

Johann Cruyff.

Johan Neeskens.

Barry Hulshoff, Ruud Krol,
Arie Haan, Gerrie Mühren,

-Johnny Rep…
-[driver] Piet Schrijvers,

Heinz Stuy and the Twelve Apostles.

[in Bosnian] The Twelve Apostles.

The Twelve Apostles!

True.

[chuckles]

[elevator dings, opens]

[door opens]

-[in English] Good evening, Fanny.
-[Fanny] Hello.

Thanks for waiting. You've been very kind.

You can take the hours off
whenever it suits you best.

It's no problem, Mr. Mikhail.

This is Alexander, this is Fanny.

[sighs]

[Finn] Oh, you need a writer.

A Nobel Prize-winner kind of writer

to describe in words exactly
how it is there…

I thought about going to hotel,
but it's impossible,

he's terribly stressed…

[Fanny] Don't smoke.

[Finn] Suddenly Marijn,
I see this flat through his eyes.

Jesus, why did we rent such a flat?

Should I serve dinner?

Oh, great.
Uh, that would be all for tonight.

You can go home. Thank you.

[Finn] Uh, and also,
fill in a DNA analysis request.

Uh-huh.
But this has to stay absolutely secret.

Yeah, yeah.

One last thing, Marijn.

Call Jasna and ask her
if she can spend the morning with him.

Tell her to take him to the place
that Cruyff and his friends played. Mm-hm.

[Finn] Mm-hm. I saw the news, too.

I was a little bit disappointed
that Madame Melancholia

hasn't noticed my absence. [laughs]

[utensils clanking]

I'll sit here.

No hungry?

Hungry, no?

Do you want some bread?

[sighs]

Son.

Son? Your son? Yes?

Son.

This is my father.

Son? Oh, yes.

I am his son.

He is my father, Alexander.

[in Bosnian] Father.

[in Bosnian] Father.

[in English]
This is my father and my mother.

[in Bosnian] Father and mother.

-[Finn, in Bosnian] Mother?
-[Alexander, in Bosnian] Mother.

[clicks tongue]

[in English] Yeah.

Please.

[man on tape machine] How do you do?

How do you do?

[man] Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

What is your name? My name is…

Where are you from? I am from…

-[tape player clicks]
-I am from Bosnia.

-[tape player clicks]
-[tape rewinding]

[tape player clicks]

[man] Lesson number two. How do you do?

[boat motor whirring]

[in Bosnian] I couldn't even dream
that I would come here. Ever.

I still remember those games
from '71, '72, '73.

I remember them as if it was yesterday.

I was in high school.
I wasn't married yet.

Actually, that's exactly
when I first met my wife.

You never know.

My mum always says,
"Man proposes, but God disposes."

Listen, Jasna,

while we were at home, in Bosnia,
I wanted to ask you, what are you?

-What do you mean, what am I?
-Forgive me, please.

That's okay, it's not a shame.

No, if you don't want to say, it's okay.

Well, it's not a secret.

I… my case is like this.

I was born in Germany,
my parents used to work there.

So, my brother was also born there.

[sighs]

And my parents are Bosnians
of Muslim origin.

But they are not religious.

We used to live in another country,
with other people…

And my folks
didn't want to be different…

When the war started,
Mum and Dad suffered a lot.

And they told us, once the war is over,
we're going back home.

So, last year we went home.

But it was hell.

Our people didn't accept us.

Neighbours, relatives, no one.

I can understand this, but…

They suffered a lot and we just came like,
when everything was over.

I like it here.

For me, it's not a problem.
For my brother also.

But my mum and dad…

they suffer a lot.

Hey Bosnia, dear Bosnia.

Are we going to live long enough
to forgive each other?

You know…

We let our son decide himself
what he wants to be.

No one forced him to do anything.
You know, I'm not religious.

I thought, if he accepts Allah,
that's fine.

Like his mother,
I accepted her as she was.

If he wants,
I will accept him like that also.

Today when you see him…

In the end, I never learned
if he believed in anything.

[cries]

Everything will be fine.

[sobs]

I'm sorry.

-I'm sorry.
-Everything will be fine.

[airplane engine droning]

[judge, in English] I order this session
of the court to be "in camera."

Judge May and Judge Kato
will preside the session.

I appeal to both sides
for utmost efficiency

since we have
a few important hearings left,

because we have reached
an important stage in our work.

The court has to make a decision
on Milorad Krstić's case.

At the end of the working day yesterday,
the defendant's lawyer, Mr. Mikhail Finn,

filed a request for a confrontation
with a new witness.

[Judge Kato]
You may bring in witness K-109.

[Judge May]
You may now bring in witness B-179.

[door opens]

[thuds]

Witness K-109, do you recognise
the individual next to you?

No.

[Finn] No?

Witness K-109, are you sure?

[in Bosnian] Yes.

[Finn clears throat, speaks in English]
Witness B-179,

do you recognise the individual
next to you?

[judge] Sit down, please!

Sir, could you please sit down,
this is a court room.

[sobs]

[Finn] Witness K-109,
I will repeat my question.

Do you recognise the individual
next to you?

[crying]

[in Bosnian] He is my father.

[Catherine, in English] I request a break.

I request a DNA test.

-This session is postponed until tomorrow.
-[gavel bangs]

[ethnic music playing]

[thuds]

Would you like some water?

[in Bosnian] My child is alive.

K-109?

My name is Miro.

[nurse] Pump.

It was mere luck.
I was unbelievably lucky.

I need a drink, I need some time alone.

I hate this excitement.

The judge declared "in camera"
before the confrontation.

First I didn't register this,
but on second thought,

they hear what happened,
don't you understand?

[Finn] Find the most experienced
Bosnian lawyer working in Europe.

Also…

Can you take, uh… the man, our guest,

I don't want to mention his name.

Yes. Can you take him to your house?
To some friend of yours?

The journalists mustn't find him.

[Finn] Wonderful!

This girl is a real gift, I must say.
Thank her on my behalf.

[clears throat] Tomorrow, I want you
at the airport, to see him off.

Find a way to offer him some money.

[Finn] Okay, bye.

[Jasna, in Dutch] Good.

Good, sweetie.

Great, darling.

Come here.

You're good, aren't you?

-[Jasna growls playfully]
-[child giggles]

[Jasna, in Dutch]
I'll be right back, my precious.

Wait for me.

-[in English] Hi.
-Hi.

-[in Bosnian] Really? Didn't I tell you.
-[Alexander chuckles]

And now what? Are you taking him with you?

Now the lawyers have to arrange it.

I gave blood for a paternity test.
The results have to come in.

His mother doesn't know yet.

-All is well if he's well. [chuckles]
-Most important is that he's alive.

Don't worry about him, Marijn.

[in English] I'll take care of him.

[in Dutch] Let me give you some money.

-No way.
-Yes, for tonight.

And then some more, for later,
as much as you need.

That's not necessary.

[both chuckling]

Will you wait for me to finish,
I'll be back in 20 minutes.

Wait for me over there.

All right? [chuckles]

-Bye.
-Bye.

[light music playing]

[Alexander, in Bosnian] It's so beautiful.

[Jasna] It is beautiful, indeed.

[Lekić] I was just thinking…

While at home we were killing
and burying each other…

here it's been like this all the time.

[Jasna] Uh-huh.

[Finn, in English] First, I would like
to ask for a clarification,

which I believe is important
for the record.

Does the code K-109
remain valid for the witness?

Given the fact the court established
that his identity was not real

and that he's not called Deyan, but Miro?

[judge] The change has been recorded
and from now on

the witness will be called Deyan-Miro
in the record.

-There won't be any ambiguity.
-Thank you, Your Honour.

Witness K-109…

Have you ever seen my client?
Have you met before?

[in Bosnian] No.

[Finn, in English] Sorry, can't hear you.
Would you repeat your answer, please?

[in Bosnian] No.

[Finn, in English] Thank you.

You were under oath in this court room.

Still you said you knew him,
and you had witnessed,

participated together with him
in criminal offences.

Why is that?

Weren't you afraid of the consequences
this might have for your own self?

[judge] Mr. Finn, I demand
that you avoid questions

that put psychological pressure
on the witness.

Answer the question. Why did you claim
that you knew the defendant?

[in Bosnian] That was the deal.

[Finn, in English] The deal?
What deal? Could you explain?

[in Bosnian] They promised me.

[Finn, in English] What did they promise?

[in Bosnian] That they will bring me here.

I wanted to come here.

[Finn, in English] Who promised you that?

[Deyna, in Bosnian]
That was my dream, to see it…

[Finn, in English] Who promised you that?

[in Bosnian] Some people came
in the prison. We met, they chose me.

[in English] Do I understand correctly.
Somebody came to the prison in Sarajevo

to offer you a deal,
according to which you--

[judge] Mr. Finn, stick to your questions.
Questions, not implications.

[Finn] If you never met my client,
then how did you recognise him?

[in Bosnian]
I've seen him on photos and videos.

[in English]
Did you receive instructions in prison?

[judge] Overruled.

[Finn] What was your conviction
in Sarajevo? For what reason were you…

Overruled. It's irrelevant to the case.

No further questions.
Actually, there is one more.

-What is your religion?
-[judge] Irrelevant.

I kindly ask the honourable court
not to take into account

witness K-109's previous statement

nor the Prosecutor's indictments
which are based on that statement

for the decision on Milorad Krstić's case.

Prosecutor? Do you have any questions?

I request a new recess.

I need to verify things,
I need expertise, consultations…

[judge] End of this session.
[pounds gavel]

[indistinct chattering]

[knocking on door]

-Come in.
-[door opens]

-[door closes]
-Please, have a seat.

Your office is so small.

[chuckles]

[Catherine] You want to know if I knew?

I trusted them.

I believed it.

There were too many people involved.

I spent two months investigating him…

I trusted them.

And they think they were helping me,

and I wanted it to happen, so I…

I trusted them.

That's why.

We'll have to move on.
You know that, don't you?

Do you think that they did it
because I'm a woman?

[judge] That's irrelevant now.

Your father was recognised
in the whole world.

He was such an authority.

Thank you for coming.

[judge] Have you decided what to do
with the boy, Catherine?

Krstić is a criminal.

I wanted that man to be sentenced.

-I was so close.
-We'll have him sentenced in any case.

Bonne soirée.

[door opens, closes]

[indistinct chattering]

[people screaming]

[machines buzzing, ringing]

[upbeat piano music playing]

[Marijn over phone] I checked every
possibility three times today with Roland.

According to both the Tribunal
and the Dutch constitution,

they have to keep the boy here
until there isn't any risk

of persecution in his country.

Whichever constitution they take,
they have to abide…

Yeah, I know, I know.

The Bosnian lawyer arrives from Paris
on Wednesday.

I just sent her the ticket today.

We're doing a brilliant job,
just brilliant.

Now it's time for you
to get some sleep, okay?

I'm not so sure.

You did what you had to do.

Tomorrow, we will feed
all the information to the media.

I will use our channels.

We are going to make it
very difficult for them.

I felt almost schizophrenic today.

I was more concerned about the boy
than about my client.

Remember, justice is on our side.
Absolutely.

No verdict could be based on a lie.
You told me this.

Jesus…

I totally messed up this boy's life.

And the lie is not exactly a lie…

The dark forces of insomnia
make me say such things.

The night distorts things
and depresses people and…

drinking didn't do any good either.

Tomorrow will be different.

Tomorrow will be a brighter day.

[Finn over phone]
Sorry for waking you up, Marijn.

You're the closest person I got…
tonight… in Holland.

[sighs]

If I was in Lagrange's shoes,
I would get rid of the boy immediately.

-[raindrops pattering]
-[thunder rumbling]

[Jasna]
We would like to visit K-109, please.

You don't have an appointment for today.

Oh, I know, but this is his father
and he's…

He came all the way from Bosnia.

Yes, I'll go and see.

-Please, wait over there.
-Thank you.

Next.

-[in Dutch] Can I take notes?
-Yeah.

Okay, good.

Um…

[in Bosnian] This young boy,
two days after he turned 18,

together with the entire football team,
joined a paramilitary organisation.

They enlisted as volunteers.

He was given a job in the kitchen,

and in the night of the 56th day,
they moved

and he got lost together
with three other soldiers.

They were caught and arrested.

There was a trial and he got a ten-year
sentence from the court of Sarajevo.

[guard] Alexander Lekić.

[Jasna, in English] Yes.

I'm sorry, he's not here anymore.

[toy guns clicking]

[indistinct chattering]

[groans]

[Marijn, in Bosnian]
Make it clear in your article

that if the boy is brought back to Bosnia,
his life would be in danger.

He is right to be afraid to go back home,

because indirectly, he has accused
the authorities in Sarajevo.

Moreover, he is a living proof
that the cases were manipulated.

Over there, as well as here.

But the question remains, why doesn't
the court prosecute him for perjury?

Wait, wait! You're actually telling me,

that this boy has been traded twice.
This is perverted.

I know your boss did everything possible
to make this happen.

Or am I wrong? Enjoy your meal.

[car engines revving]

[classical music playing on radio]

[in English] This is the first time
Mr. Finn doesn't pick up his phone.

It's not that, we bought the tickets.

Tell me the truth, Marijn,
why are they sending him back?

[Jasna over phone]
Why don't they give him to his father?

Mr. Finn is not at home, I just want
to speak with him. He promised me.

[Jasna over phone]
You'll come with us, won't you?

I'm sorry, I… I won't be able to come,
I've got tons to do.

[Marijn over phone]
I'll call you as soon as I can.

-[announcement tone rings]
-[announcer speaking in Dutch]

[Catherine] You mustn't be surprised

that I didn't institute proceedings
for perjury

against the compromised witness K-109,

as I have undeniable evidence
that his newly-recruited lawyers

want a new trial
only to discredit this Tribunal.

I have no intention whatsoever
to cooperate to their efforts

to undermine this highest legal authority.

That's why I believe that we have
to take all the measures needed

to bring the witness
back to the authorities

in Bosnia and Herzegovina
as soon as possible.

-[clamouring]
-[PR] Silence, please.

My name is Lisa Robertson from NOS.

Why is there no information
on witness K-109

on the official website of the Tribunal?

The Tribunal has the right
to classify information.

Here we deal with some of the most complex
and difficult court cases.

[Catherine] Those criminals violated
the laws and customs of war.

There was a genocide going on in Bosnia

and I will not cease to repeat

that this Tribunal's purpose of existence
is supreme justice.

But it's normal to meet temporary
obstacles on the way to its achievement,

but I can assure you,
that these obstacles will not stop us.

Do you think that you treated the witness
according to the laws and customs of war?

This is a very specific term
and you're using it out of place.

[man] Then I have another question.

-[journalists clamouring]
-[PR] Yes, please.

Is the life of the compromised K-109
in danger?

[camera shutters clicking]

Killing for a cause
can never justify the cause.

It is always just killing.

That is what I believe in,
don't try to imply something else.

[man]
But you are sacrificing him! Yes, you do!

-[PR] Okay, last question.
-Yes, you do!

-[PR] Last question.
-[woman] Over here.

[PR] You from IRF, last question please.

Thank you so much! Ms. Lagrange,

have you read in Het Parole
William Benning's article? I quote,

"Does she remember she's a woman?"

-[journalists chuckle]
-Now really, do you remember?

We are living in times characterised
by complete disorder of values.

And, though my professional life
requires severe restriction,

I am a happy woman.

[Catherine]
I am a woman with a task, a real task.

I am grateful that fate
has chosen me for this.

I'm flattered to believe
that somehow I've deserved it.

[journalists clamouring]

"If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain."

"If I can ease one life the aching,
or cool one pain,

or help a fainting robin
unto his nest again,

I shall not live in vain."

Emily Dickinson.

[PR] Thank you all for your interest,
this press conference is over.

And have a nice day. Thank you, everyone.

[airplane engine droning]

[somber music playing]

[cell phone ringing]

[indistinct chattering]

[cell phone ringing]

[door opens]

[in Swedish]
Welcome! We've been waiting for you.

[door closes]

[man coughing]

[in Swedish] Talk to him.

Talk to him.

Don't think it's pointless.

[in Swedish] It's been a while.

Hmm?

I hope you're fine here.

And that they take good care of you.

You have to…

Excuse me that I haven't been…

I didn't have time to come and visit you.

I've been very busy.

Otherwise I'm fine.

I'm still in the Hague and…

And it's going well.

Whatever "well" means, that is.

Dad…

It's Misha…

Your son.

[piano music playing]

[piano music fades]

[solemn music playing]