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-[wind blowing]
-[crew member] Rolling.
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[Halyna Hutchins] This is kind of nice.
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Looking cool in the wide. [chuckles]
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[crew member 1] Roll sound.
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-[crew member 2] Rolling.
-[crew member 3] Ready, set.
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-[♪ tense music playing]
-[wind whipping]
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Alright, we're all going to one.
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[crew chattering]
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[camera person] Yeah, good luck.
It's gonna be swell.
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[Halyna] This might be too long, right?
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-So, they need to get...
-[indistinct chatter]
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[Halyna] Joel is at krafty.
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[people chattering]
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[Halyna] Oh, my.
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[laughter and chatter]
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[Halyna humming]
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[people chattering]
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[footsteps tapping and echoing]
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[911 operator] Santa Fe Fire and EMS,what's the location of the emergency?
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We have two people accidentally shot
on a movie set.
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We need help immediately.
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-[sirens blaring]
-[police radio chatter]
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Santa Fe, one female shot in the chest,
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male shot in the stomach.
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Requesting air flight.
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-[people chattering]
-[♪ tense music playing]
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[crew member] Alec Baldwin was the actor
on set that pulled the trigger.
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-[officer] Alec Baldwin?
-[crew member] Yes, sir.
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-[officer] We got the bird right here.
-[officer shouting indistinctly]
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Gunshot underneath the right arm,
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went through all the way to the back left.
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Can you carry this back for me, sir?
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-I got it.
-You got it?
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Is she gonna be all right?
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I don't know. I... I...
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don't even know what's...
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what's gone going on, what's happening.
Nothing like that, so.
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Can I have you guys get over there for us?
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We'll have to gather everybody up,
get everybody's names.
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Everybody who was on scene, okay?
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How many people were
in the room at the time?
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I'd say six? Maybe seven.
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Joel's doing okay.
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He is? What's her story?
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Little bit rougher.
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[police radio chatter]
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It was the shoulder though?
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On Joel?
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On Halyna? Where did it hit her?
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Hers appeared to look...
It went through her,
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her right underarm,
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and the exit point was on
her back left shoulder blade.
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Oh my god.
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So it went across her body?
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It went... It went through.
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So...
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life-threatening.
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Was it an actual gun?
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[officer] It's a .45.
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He shot, and then he shot.
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He got the gun from the armorer,
who I have in my car.
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Okay, what is your full name?
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Hannah.
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H - A - N - N - A - H.
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Gutierrez.
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[officer] What's your place of employment?
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Rust.
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[Officer] Let's walk, follow me,
I gotta go to my car real quick.
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-Okay. -
[Producer] I'm just curious
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why he's going down?
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[Officer] He was also - had hands on
with the prop gun as well.
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[crew chattering]
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How's it going, sir?
Um, so I-- my understanding, um,
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is that you were in the room
when the lady,
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-when someone was shot?
-I was the one holding the gun, yeah.
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[officer]
We need a date of birth for the med.
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[officer 2]
Yeah, date of birth and social.
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-Hutchinson?
-Uh, Halyna Hutchins.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[helicopter whirring]
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[reporter 1] Actor Alec Baldwinfired a deadly shot
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while filming his new movie.
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[reporter 2]
The film's director of photography,
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Halyna Hutchins,died from her injuries earlier today.
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The second victim,the film's director, Joel Souza,
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he's being treated in Santa Fe.
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[reporter 3] There were three peoplethat if they had done their job that day,
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this tragedy wouldn't have happened.
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This has rocked
the film industry all across the world.
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[reporter 4]
Whatever these big public spectacles,
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they take on a life of their own.
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[reporter 5] Accidents like this one,they're not supposed to happen, ever.
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[Joel Souza] That bulletwent through her and then into me.
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It's an awful thingto share with somebody.
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I have to know how it happened.
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Why isn't she here anymore?
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[♪ dramatic music playing]
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[wind whispering]
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[Rachel Mason]
The sun was shining just like that.
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They airlifted her in the helicopterfrom right here,
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and she died in the sky
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at this exact time.
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[♪ solemn music playing]
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The last time I saw her,we were hiking with our kids.
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-[Halyna] Jonah!
- [Rachel] Halyna and I were friends.
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-We did it!
-[people cheering]
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[Rachel] We were both filmmakers and moms.
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She came here to Santa Feto make a film...
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[horses whinny]
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...and never came back.
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[Halyna laughing]
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After Halyna died, her husband Matt
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asked me to make a film about her life.
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[photographer] Kiss him, that's it!
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[Rachel] But I realized I couldn'tmake a film about her life
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if I didn't understand how she died.
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[♪ solemn music playing]
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-[crew member 1] Ready, everyone?
-[crew member 2] Rolling.
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[Rachel] Can we start at the beginning?
Can you set the stage for me?
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Yeah.
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♪♪
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Alec was like forefrontof the zeitgeist at the moment.
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For whatever reason, he liked my writing.
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He said, "Oh, well,let's do something together."
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I said, "Well, I got two ideas.
I got a cop movie, and I got a Western."
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He said, "Oh, I've never done a Western.
Let's do the Western."
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It was like that.
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[♪ peaceful music playing]
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I have my hires.The cinematographer is one of them.
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I just keep a list of cinematographers
whose work I like.
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I'd see something,
I'm like, "Oh, that's good,"
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and I'd just, you know,
write it down, and,
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"Oh, she's one of these
10 cinematographers to watch."
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[♪ contemplative music playing]
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I saw her like a month before she left,
and she was super excited
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to go and shoot this film in New Mexico,
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and was so happy for her.
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[Joel] Halyna and Ididn't really connect in person
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until we were in New Mexico.
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[♪ gentle music playing]
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[Halyna] Oh, Joel, look-- look at this.
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If we start this way, it's kind of empty,
and you can bring him this way?
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-[Joel] Yeah, he's coming in here.
-[Halyna] And then sort of, yeah.
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Yeah, he's coming down.
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We were scouting together,
and it was just like me and her.
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[Halyna] Uh, Phantom could come off--
come down here too, if you wanted to.
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When you meet with the director,
you start conversation,
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and every thought, they say something,
and you have 10 ideas right away.
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-[Joel] For the old Thin Red Line shot.
-[Halyna] Uh-huh.
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[Joel] We would talk and talk and talk.
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[Halyna] I love that kinda first spark.
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[Joel] It's tough when you're hiringa cinematographer.
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You don't want someone that
you're gonna argue with all the time.
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You want a collaborative process.
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[Halyna] I'm a very direct person,so I prefer working with people
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who are open and just say what they think.
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[Joel] We spent all day, every day,in and out of the office.
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She had to, like, you know, find her team.
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[text whooshes]
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[Joel] Prep is always my favorite part.
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And then, uh, we get to first dayof photography...
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it's like, this is movies.
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Like, you have a script you write.
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You were the only one in the worldwho cares about it.
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And then, you starthanding it off to people.
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Now, it's everybody's movie.You have a better version of it
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because everybodybrought themselves to it.
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[crew chattering, laughing]
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[♪ light music playing]
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-[actor grunts]
-[Joel] Okay, Reese.
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[Terese] To walk onto a setof a Western is so cool.
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It's like getting to take a time machine.
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[camera whirring]
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Big wind, big fire,
big explosions, big shootouts.
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[gunshots]
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-[crew member 1] Woo-hoo!
-[crew member 2] Yeah!
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It was, for me, this exciting raising
of my career and dreams,
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-and the things that I want.
-[actor shouting]
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And I know that Halynawas in that same place.
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[Frances Fisher] I saw this woman, just...
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this, this, this, that. [snapping]
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And I thought, she's running the set.
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She the first AD? What's she doing?
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It turns out she was the DP.
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[Olesia] A director of photographytakes the script
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and makes the words into visual language
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that delivers the emotional ride
for the audience.
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Halyna's films, they are just,like, naturally so beautiful.
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The kind of films
that she was, uh, working on,
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they were small,
small independent films, short films,
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micro-budget films with little money,little time, and little crew.
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[♪ gentle music playing]
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I think, for Halyna,Westerns were something
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she had never done
but really wanted to try.
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[♪ gentle music continues]
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[camera clicks]
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-Thumbs up.
-Thumbs up.
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Whoo!
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Thumbs up.
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-[camera clicks]
-[crew chattering and cheering]
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[crew member] Alright, back to work.
Get back to work.
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[overlapping chatter]
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[Dave Halls] The first AD on set,
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I suppose if you were goingto equate it to another job,
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it would be very much like what a foreman
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on a construction site might do.
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"Here's what we're doing today.
Here's how we're gonna do it.
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This is when we're gonna do it."
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And, uh...
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one of the responsibilities
of the first AD
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is that they're the safety coordinator.
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[Rachel] What kinds of things
did you think
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in terms of safety,
that might be necessary?
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Well, certainly,
we were working with guns.
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And that was a primary safety concern.
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Here we go! Three, two, one!
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-[gunshot]
-[actor grunts]
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My first day,
coming out of hair and makeup,
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in my full costume,
and Alec is at base camp,
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and he's in his costume.
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And, uh, this girl comes over
and interrupts our conversation.
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She's got an arm full of guns,
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just barreled her way in.
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And I thought, it was very unsafe
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to be walking around base campwith a whole bunch of guns
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in your hand.
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Like, have they been cleared?Why are you doing this?
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And Alec, he seemed a little, you know...
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"What's she doing?"
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Then, I found out she was the armorer.
I thought, "Wow."
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[♪ ominous music playing]
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I knew that she had little experience.
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I would say this one probably is
used more regularly.
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[Dave] But my concern overlack of experience was tempered
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by knowing that her father was Thell Reed.
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-[announcer] The fastest gun in the West.
-[audience clapping]
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[Thell Reed] I'm Thell Reed.I'm a world-champion fast drawer.
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[Dave] Every actor, just about,that you see spinning a gun
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and doing it really nicehas been trained by Thell Reed.
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[Hannah Gutierrez-Reed]
I learned how to be an armorer
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mostly from my father over the years.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[gunshots]
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As the armorer, I was obligated
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to check the weapons every day.
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I was obligated to maintain the weapons,
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um, obligated to train the actors as well.
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Okay, well...
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Just so you guys know, those are clear.
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[Alec Baldwin]
I arrived on the 11th, that Monday,
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had dinner with Halynaand Joel that night.
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Uh, Tuesday, I went to go rehearsewith the wrangler, with the horses.
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I rode the horses,and I did my gun safety rehearsal
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with Hannah Reedon, uh, Tuesday the 12th as well.
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[Hannah]
Me and Alec, we met at the church,
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and I said, "We're gonna go overhow to shoot all your weapons,
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how to load them, how to make them safe."
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We went outside and we startedpracticing with blanks.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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Where Alec would come out the churchand bang-bang, bang-bang.
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[gunshots]
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Alec, from the outside,
it's like he's coming
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onto this low-budget Western indie.
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I got the sense
that he was like equally excited
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about being there, and the story,
and what we were making.
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[indistinct chatter]
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He's part of a-- a generationof old Hollywood movie star.
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Yeah, there's a gravity
to having Alec on set.
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[Joel] Ready, and action!
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[popping]
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[gunshots]
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One more, one more, one more.
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I forgot the recoil stuff.
No, no, right away, right away.
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-Let's reload.
-[Joel] Here we go.
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Things started feeling off
when, uh, Alec showed up,
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but it wasn't like--
he wasn't doing anything wrong.
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An actor of that caliberwith that producer title,
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it was-- was kind of intimidating.
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It was like, you know, the pacingof the set got a little quicker.
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-Things picked up faster.
-Picture down.
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[Jonas] It-- it was a tonal change on set.
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Every indie set I've ever been on,
we don't have enough time,
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and we don't have enough money.
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It's such a puzzle figuring outhow to get a movie done.
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You're alwaysworking against that entropy.
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You're always working against the chaos.
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Tight schedule sucked. It was tough.
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[crew chattering]
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[Halyna] The director is very involved.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Jonas] When you work on a film set,typically you work 12-hour days.
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There's an understanding
that it's-- it's gonna be hell.
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-[crew member 1] Background action.
-[crew member 2] Back to one.
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[crew chattering]
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[crew member]
Calling for Stacey in makeup, is she...
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We ran into all sorts
of problems with money, mostly,
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production money, uh,
how we're gonna pay for this,
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how we're gonna pay for that.
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And we had to balance out
what we could get, versus what we need,
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versus what we want,
versus how can we make this work.
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By and large, we did okay.
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[motor revving]
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[Terese] And you're working crazy hoursand you're doing crazy things
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in insane conditions.
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But it was just fun.
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Right up until it wasn't.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[Josh Hopkins]
I was, you know, um, on-- on set,
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and you could see walkies and people.
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I was like, "What is going on?"
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[Terese] I remember seeing Halyna,and she didn't look happy.
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And she always looks happy.
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I was like, "What's going on?"And she was like, "My crew left."
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[Jonas] So, Lane was the first AC on Rust.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Lane is responsible for the day-to-day,
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make sure that our department'srunning smoothly.
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Every problem that we could have
potentially had, uh, is on his shoulders.
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A lot of the issues we had,Lane started to bring up to producers,
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like, "Hey, are we gonna deal with this?"
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We felt like we weren't respected
or taken care of,
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and, like, no one
really gave a shit about us.
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[Joel] Between productionand the camera team,
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there was always disharmony.
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And it just-- they sort of never got off
on the right foot together.
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A lot of people on production knew
that the camera department was,
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I guess you would saykind of a squeaky wheel.
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The camera crew
were the dark clouds on our set.
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They were rude.
They talked crap about everybody.
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They chose to walk off on a day
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when we're having the biggest shootout
of the whole show.
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Camera went from having like,
I don't know,
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9 or 11 guys or something,
to like two or three.
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[Joel]
She was not wild about what happened.
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She was hurt by it.
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[Terese] What was impressive washow quickly Halyna was able to pivot.
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Yeah, it is. Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Sometimes we might have to come up
with simpler solutions, you know?
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[text whooshes]
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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I took Dave Halls aside and Halyna aside,
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and I'm like,"Look, we can't finish this day,
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"so let's just do this.
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"We got a scene in front of us.We're gonna work our way through it,
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and we're gonna worryabout tomorrow, tomorrow."
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[Dave] We were not freaking out about it.
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We just accepted, it is what it is,
and we'll figure it out.
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[Terese]
So, at lunch, she looked over at me,
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she was like, "We have to hang out."
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I was like, "Absolutely.
Let's go out tonight."
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And she reached over
and she grabbed my hand and squeezed it,
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and she was like, "Alright, we'll do it."
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And then, she got-- got on the van,
and that's the last time I saw her.
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So...
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[♪ solemn music playing]
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-[wind whipping]
-[people chattering]
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[Dave]
So, we returned to the set after lunch.
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Um, we were setting up for a shot
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with Alec Baldwin
sitting in the church pew.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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Halyna, uh, told me she was ready,
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and I went on a walkie, "Camera's ready,"
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and that sets off a whole thing in motion.
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[Hannah]
Dave Hall started calling for the gun.
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I opened up his weapon,uh, and I went ahead
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and took a brush and cleaned it out.
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And then I loaded the last dummy in there.
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[Dave] Alec Baldwinarrived on set, sat in the pew.
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Hannah, the armorer,
appeared on my left-hand side
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and said, "Let's do the gun check."
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And she said,
"I put dummy rounds in the gun."
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[Hannah] And I just spunthe cylinder for him completely.
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[Dave] I saw what appeared to meto be dummy rounds.
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[Alec] Halyna is standing to the rightof the cameraman to my left.
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She's saying, "Yeah, right there.What-- how does that feel?"
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I go, "Now, you want to see mecock the gun?"
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She goes, "Well, tilt it downand just kind of cheat it,
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so I can see your thumb.Great, I like that."
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99% of the time, you got a-- a tent
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that's got a-- a number of video monitors.
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that are showing the camera's view.
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The director and the DP, typically,
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they stand in video villagewhere they're looking at the exact shot
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of what's gonna be on film.
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They're, you know, 20, 30 feet away.
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And so, that day, there was a walkout.
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We didn't have video village that day,
and so because of that,
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they put Halyna and Joel...
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in front of the camera.
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[Alec]
We're aiming, and she's instructing me.
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Finally, I said, "Now, do youwanna see me pull the hammer back?"
395
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She was actually looking
right at the shot like this, getting...
396
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you know, telling camera
what she wanted him to do.
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So, the only thing between her
and the gun was her own hands?
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Yes. Yes.
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[Joel] I know I came back in,and I came up behind her shoulder,
400
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and I was trying to get a lookover her shoulder.
401
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[loud gunshot, blast echoing]
402
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[♪ tense music playing]
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It sounded like an explosion.
404
00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:34,835
Sound and the smoke, and it was so loud.
405
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First thing I did was I turned my head
and I go, "Oh, man."
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Oh, my God. Fuck!
407
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:42,092
[Thomas]
"Hannah's gonna be getting yelled at now."
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Are they okay?
409
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:45,095
I say, "Wait, was it the gun?"
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And Dave said, "Yeah, it was the gun."
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I screamed out like, "Oh, my God,Joel, I am so sorry."
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[Thomas] If someone were in a scene
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and they're gonna get shot in the chest...
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[imitating gunshot]
...I would have a button,
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and I would fire that little charge--it's called a squib--
416
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that would send the blood flying.
417
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And my first thought,
I looked down at my hand at the button,
418
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and I thought to myself,
"Why the hell did we squib her?"
419
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:12,915
[Rachel gasps]
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00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:14,500
[Thomas] That was just my first thought.
421
00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:16,794
I saw this, and-- and I looked down,
422
00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:18,963
and there's no-- no button.
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And that's when I said,
"Oh, my God, she's been shot."
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[Cherlyn]
You know, I-- I said, "What happened?"
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And someone said, uh,"The gun went off. Halyna got shot."
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And so, I went directly to her
427
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to try to figure out what was going on.
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00:22:32,226 --> 00:22:36,230
And I said, "I need Matt, because Matthas had previous medical experience."
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I'm a combat soldier,
as well as a first responder,
430
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:41,902
as well as a former police officer.
431
00:22:41,986 --> 00:22:46,448
The medic pointed to Joel,
and I started taking care of Joel.
432
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Joel stepped back and took off his jacket,
433
00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:54,290
and he was looking around,
and he was like, "Am I bleeding?"
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-[sirens wailing]
-[Joel] I kind of remember
435
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feeling like somebodyhit me in the shoulder with a bat.
436
00:22:59,962 --> 00:23:01,463
I couldn't really move anything.
437
00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:02,673
[helicopter whirring]
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00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:05,426
I was laying this way
and she was laying that way.
439
00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:10,222
And I remember just sort of locking eyes
with her for a minute.
440
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-[♪ somber music playing]
-[wind whispering]
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I turned around and I just--
I quickly ran over to her,
442
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and she was down on the ground,
443
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and her back was up against the dolly.
444
00:23:24,278 --> 00:23:26,572
And-- you know, I said, "Are you okay?"
445
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She looked up at me,
said, "I can't feel my legs."
446
00:23:29,783 --> 00:23:30,784
[swallows hard]
447
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:34,872
-[engine revving]
-[siren blaring]
448
00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:40,294
[Tim] I was patrolling on the east sideof Santa Fe County.
449
00:23:41,295 --> 00:23:45,049
Dispatch advised there wasan accidental shooting at Bonanza Creek.
450
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[officer] [over radio]
Looks like the meds are here at the gate.
451
00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:50,387
Tell them that I'll... [indistinct]
...they could follow us in.
452
00:23:50,471 --> 00:23:53,766
They said they had two victims down
with gunshot wounds,
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a male and a female.
454
00:23:56,310 --> 00:24:01,148
I start looking around,
and, um, I see it's just complete chaos.
455
00:24:01,231 --> 00:24:03,067
I need you to know who's in charge.
456
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,694
Everybody stops what
they're doing right now.
457
00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:07,363
-This is a crime scene.
-[crew members] Yes.
458
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,156
[Tim]
Okay, everybody stops what they're doing,
459
00:24:09,239 --> 00:24:10,658
and I need the film secured.
460
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,870
It was just horrible. Horrible.
461
00:24:15,871 --> 00:24:18,165
My job was to secure the scene.
462
00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:21,710
Uh, the second thing was--
was to find out where the gun was.
463
00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,797
'Cause does that person have a gun?
Are they gonna use it again?
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I-- I really didn't know.
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00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:28,092
-[Tim] You're in charge, ma'am?
-Yes, I am.
466
00:24:28,175 --> 00:24:29,885
[Tim] I need to know
where the gun's at right now.
467
00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,137
Yes. Bro? Bro?
468
00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:33,973
Armorer, I need to know
where the guns are at.
469
00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:35,265
-Right there.
-Go and get 'em.
470
00:24:35,349 --> 00:24:36,558
Right there.
471
00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:38,560
[Hannah] Hi, I'm here.
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00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:40,270
[Tim] How do I know this is the gun?
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00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:42,272
-That's the gun.
-[Tim] Okay.
474
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:45,693
-Come with me.
-[Hannah] Okay.
475
00:24:45,776 --> 00:24:47,778
[engines rumbling]
476
00:24:51,198 --> 00:24:52,574
Do you have those rounds I gave you?
477
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:53,993
-What? No.
-The... the...
478
00:24:54,076 --> 00:24:55,828
-They're on the cart.
-Are they?
479
00:24:55,911 --> 00:24:57,955
-I don't know. I didn't see them.
-Well, who would you give 'em to?
480
00:24:58,038 --> 00:25:00,332
-I gave 'em back to you.
-I gave...
481
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:02,209
I'll get-- I'll get 'em.
482
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:03,919
[Tim] Are these the rounds here?
483
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:08,048
[Hannah] [panting] So, okay, um...
484
00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:10,509
-[Dave] You have rounds here.
-There should-- okay, no.
485
00:25:10,592 --> 00:25:12,720
So, this is the one, I'm pretty sure.
486
00:25:12,803 --> 00:25:15,556
I'm-- this is the-- that's the one.
487
00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:17,975
And I-- okay. [exhales sharply] Sorry.
488
00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:19,435
-[Tim] You're okay, just relax.
-I'm sorry.
489
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:20,811
-Just relax.
-I'm so scared. I'm sorry.
490
00:25:20,894 --> 00:25:22,479
-No, you're all right. Just relax.
-[Hannah crying]
491
00:25:22,563 --> 00:25:24,481
So, here's the box that I got them out of.
492
00:25:24,565 --> 00:25:25,983
[Tim] Okay. Leave 'em right there.
493
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:28,485
-[Hannah sobbing]
-Just leave 'em right there, okay?
494
00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:31,321
-Relax. I just need you to--
-I'm so sorry.
495
00:25:31,405 --> 00:25:34,783
[Tim] I just need you to relax.
Just relax, okay?
496
00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:39,788
I know everything on a movie set's fake.
497
00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:43,250
But as soon as we got there,
everything was real.
498
00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:45,335
[wind whipping]
499
00:25:45,419 --> 00:25:46,628
[Tim] Are you doing okay?
500
00:25:46,712 --> 00:25:49,048
-No, I'm not actually.
-[Tim] Okay. Yeah.
501
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:52,426
Um, crazy series of events.
502
00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:57,264
So, um, we're requesting that you
and Miss Gutierrez,
503
00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,933
uh, conduct interviews back at
the Santa Fe County Sheriff's office.
504
00:26:00,017 --> 00:26:03,020
I don't know if this is
suspected blood or real blood?
505
00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:04,772
-Oh, this is fake. Yeah.
-Fake, okay.
506
00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:07,441
Um, and we're gonna go talk
to Miss Gutierrez right now,
507
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,234
'cause we're gonna request
the same information.
508
00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:11,028
Who is that?
509
00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:14,031
Uh, the-- the armory specialist. Alright.
510
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:18,202
Um, she's a little, uh,
sh-- shaken up, so...
511
00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:20,579
[wind whipping]
512
00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:23,582
[♪ solemn music playing]
513
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:27,503
A lot of people went into shock.
They basically shut down.
514
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,421
You start losing higher functions.
515
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:34,760
-[Tim] You doing okay?
-[Hannah] No!
516
00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:36,678
[Hannah crying]
517
00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:39,473
[Tim] In the back of the unit,she was just hyperventilating.
518
00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:43,852
As a person,I know either she did something wrong
519
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,563
or she let something happen.
520
00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:49,316
[Josh] You know, it's, um...
521
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:52,694
[sighs] disbelief, uh...
522
00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:55,114
"What?"
523
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,449
-[helicopters whirring]
-[people chattering]
524
00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:00,160
Then, they eventually-- this is hours--
525
00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:03,205
took us into this one big, like, tent room
526
00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:06,625
where we would eat, and they said...
527
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,961
[Tim]
You guys hear the helicopters up here.
528
00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:11,588
Um, out of respect,
529
00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:14,925
so we can do a thorough
and proper investigation,
530
00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:19,179
I would ask you for cooperation
on not to speak to any of the media,
531
00:27:19,263 --> 00:27:23,809
say it's an active investigation,
no comment, and-- and go on your way.
532
00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:27,271
[Terese]
The paparazzi blocked in both gates.
533
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:30,858
We couldn't get out,and the news helicopters were above us,
534
00:27:30,941 --> 00:27:33,360
and we were just kinda stuck.
535
00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:37,239
We didn't really know
the extent of anything,
536
00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,617
'cause, you know,
why would you expect anything
537
00:27:40,701 --> 00:27:43,412
to be that bad in the movie set?
538
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:45,205
It should never be that bad.
539
00:27:45,289 --> 00:27:47,749
[people chattering]
540
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,669
[Josh] And then, what-- there wasa medic that came down.
541
00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:52,921
He said, "She's gonna be alright."
542
00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:57,259
Yeah, he was like, "She's gonna be fine."
543
00:27:57,342 --> 00:28:00,178
I-- I glommed onto that...
544
00:28:02,055 --> 00:28:06,393
and trusted that,
and the way he said it, it felt, um...
545
00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:09,771
I felt a lot better then.
546
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:12,858
[♪ somber music playing]
547
00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:17,821
[Dave] Hannah was takento the-- the sheriff's department
548
00:28:17,905 --> 00:28:20,157
to-- to be interviewed,
549
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,743
Alec and-- and myself.
550
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,955
[officer]
You have the right to remain silent.
551
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,124
Anything you say may be used against you
552
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:31,251
in court or other proceedings.
553
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:32,961
You have the right
to consult with an attorney
554
00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,048
before making any statement
or answering any questions.
555
00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:40,719
Okay, it's just an interview
about what happened today.
556
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:43,847
-And how old are you?
-Twenty-four.
557
00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:54,733
So, can you tell us what happened today?
558
00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:56,276
I was...
559
00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:01,323
This is a scene in the church.
560
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,493
You come in, and there's a lot
of disarray, there's benches tipped over.
561
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,162
And I sat here, and the camera was here,
562
00:29:07,245 --> 00:29:08,997
and she was here, and Joel was here.
563
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:10,874
"She" being Halyna?
564
00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,167
-Halyna.
-Okay.
565
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,503
And it was a very tight shot
566
00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:17,881
of him pulling out the gun
from his holster.
567
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,260
There was no-- I heard no plan of firing.
568
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:26,682
There was no need of putting
any kind of blanks in it or anything.
569
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:30,894
It was just, tight shot of him
pulling it out and going like this.
570
00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:35,107
So, I loaded it with
five of the dummy rounds
571
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:38,402
before lunch, and there was one
that wouldn't go in.
572
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:42,781
And so, when we got back from lunch,
I took the, like, little cleaner guy.
573
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:45,701
I cleaned it out really quick
and I put another dummy in there.
574
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,953
She cleans the barrel every time,
575
00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:51,248
and she checks that the rounds
are all cosmetic rounds.
576
00:29:51,999 --> 00:29:55,752
As you're loading it, do you do...
and check every single time?
577
00:29:55,836 --> 00:29:57,754
-Yeah.
-Every round?
578
00:29:57,838 --> 00:29:59,006
Yeah.
579
00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:00,465
And you did it on this time too?
580
00:30:00,549 --> 00:30:02,551
-I did it.
-Okay.
581
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,678
She hands me the gun.
I'm assuming she's done it the right way.
582
00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:06,847
She's done it the last two weeks.
I put it in the holster.
583
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:09,391
[♪ tense music playing]
584
00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,519
[smoke spraying]
585
00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:18,734
You're assuming you have
a cold gun, there's no problem.
586
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,069
-Right.
-And again, a cold gun I'd had--
587
00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:23,405
every time we've used guns
on this film the last two weeks,
588
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:25,032
we've never had one problem. Never.
589
00:30:25,115 --> 00:30:28,118
[♪ tense music playing]
590
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:35,542
I pull it out slow for rehearsing.
591
00:30:35,625 --> 00:30:37,919
We're not filming anything.I pull it out slow...
592
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:40,756
And as soon as I cock it, bang!
593
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,883
And I jump, 'cause I mean, you obviously--
594
00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:44,676
that's the last thing
595
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,136
-you think is gonna happen.
-Mm-hmm.
596
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,764
And what I'm curious about
is what came out of that bullet
597
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,058
that went through her body
and into his shoulder.
598
00:30:51,141 --> 00:30:53,769
I'm wondering if your department
is prepared to go find out
599
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,771
what comes out of his shoulder surgically.
600
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:59,357
-Is that a live round?
-That's what we are actually looking at.
601
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:01,818
Is that a li-- 'cause I don't--
it doesn't make any sense otherwise.
602
00:31:01,902 --> 00:31:03,320
-Yeah.
-It hits her in the arm,
603
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:05,072
it comes out her shoulder,
goes into his shoulder.
604
00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:07,741
And he just told me on the phone,
I talked to Joel.
605
00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:09,951
He said, "They showed me the X-ray,
and the shape of the thing
606
00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:12,287
in my shoulder is the shape of a bullet."
607
00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:13,747
At the hospital,
they just kept telling me,
608
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,457
"There's a bullet in you,
there's a bullet in you."
609
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,126
And I'm like, "Nope.
You're wrong, I'm right."
610
00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:21,046
'Cause I kept insistingit couldn't have been that,
611
00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:22,589
'cause that's not how movies work.
612
00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:24,466
[hospital staff chattering]
613
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,177
That's a big bullet, man.
614
00:31:27,302 --> 00:31:29,054
They just got sick of mebitching about it,
615
00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:30,597
at a certain point, show me the X-ray.
616
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,100
It's like, "Shut up, here's a bullet."
617
00:31:33,183 --> 00:31:35,018
And even then, I'm like, "No."
618
00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:38,396
Because it looked... fake.
The X-ray just looked so like,
619
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,190
"Here's a bullet in the middle
of an X-ray."
620
00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:45,320
And, uh, it's just so unheard of
that that could even be a thing.
621
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:48,573
-Uh, I could actually show that to you.
-What?
622
00:31:48,657 --> 00:31:50,742
-What was in his shoulder, we did--
-Did they take it out?
623
00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:52,661
That's a bullet.
624
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:57,499
That's not a movie bullet.That's a bullet.
625
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,626
-[officer] It is a bullet, yeah.
-[Alec] How did that happen?
626
00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:01,837
Somebody put a live round in the gun.
627
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:05,173
Not only did I rehearse with a hot gun,
628
00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,926
I rehearsed with a gun
that had a bullet inside it.
629
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:10,762
If that's what came out of his sh--
this is the most horrifying thing
630
00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:12,180
I've ever heard in my life.
631
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:14,474
I am speechless.
632
00:32:17,227 --> 00:32:19,771
We're here shooting,
everything was going fine.
633
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:21,773
Joel is my friend.
634
00:32:21,857 --> 00:32:24,025
-I'm one of the producers on this movie.
-Mm-hmm.
635
00:32:24,109 --> 00:32:26,736
We've developed this movie together
for three years.
636
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:28,655
I left my wife and six kids in New York
637
00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:30,532
to come here for a month
to shoot this movie,
638
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:33,118
and I'm the one that shot the gun today
that had a live bullet
639
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:35,912
go through that woman's body
and into his body.
640
00:32:37,497 --> 00:32:39,457
And I need to know, how did that happen?
641
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:42,669
Where did that bullet come from?
642
00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:44,296
Where did a li-- there's--
643
00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:46,590
there are no live rounds
in our kit, I'm told.
644
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:49,092
[Dave] There's just...
645
00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:52,137
There's no explanation, there's--
you know, to answer your question,
646
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:54,514
there's-- you know,
I've been pretty adamant about it.
647
00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:57,809
There's no-- absolutely no reason
648
00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:01,646
to ever have live, real ammunition...
649
00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,025
on a film set.
650
00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:08,111
[officer] And this is why
it's not adding up to us either.
651
00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:10,447
Your brain just did not...
652
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:17,579
accept the fact that there was
a live round ammunition
653
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:18,955
on a film set.
654
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:24,044
-I'm, like, flabbergasted by this.
-Mm-hmm.
655
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:26,963
Um, I can't fucking imagine
how that happened.
656
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:30,258
I don't know.
657
00:33:31,259 --> 00:33:32,844
I wish I would've checked it more.
658
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,976
I do have some very
unfortunate news to tell you.
659
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,395
-What?
-Um, she didn't make it.
660
00:33:42,479 --> 00:33:43,480
No!
661
00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:46,358
Yeah.
662
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:50,654
So, but Joel's still at the hospital...
663
00:33:51,655 --> 00:33:56,117
but the other person involved
didn't make it.
664
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:04,459
Sorry.
665
00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:13,468
I didn't want you to hear it...
666
00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:16,763
outside of here.
667
00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:24,354
And what's so fucked...
668
00:34:25,814 --> 00:34:28,817
is before-- we had cops at set...
669
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:32,487
and we had people
from production at the hospital.
670
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:36,283
Before we heard anything
officially that she had passed,
671
00:34:36,366 --> 00:34:37,701
it came out online.
672
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:42,622
[Josh] Someone was like... "She died."
673
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:44,874
[indistinct chatter]
674
00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:46,584
And he's-- what? I was like, "No, no."
675
00:34:46,668 --> 00:34:48,878
"Go to this website," you know?
And I was like...
676
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,007
this-- this cannot be right.
677
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:54,926
[♪ solemn music playing]
678
00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:05,854
All of a sudden, I just started
seeing pockets of people
679
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,732
as they f-- read the news,
just started seeing po--
680
00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:10,650
pockets of people just like break down.
681
00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:13,737
[♪ solemn music continues]
682
00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:19,659
You're trying to hold on to hope.
683
00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:22,203
And, um... [clicking tongue]
684
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:24,998
it was the worst possible outcome
for the day.
685
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:27,876
I just broke.
686
00:35:29,002 --> 00:35:30,003
I just...
687
00:35:30,086 --> 00:35:33,089
[♪ solemn music continues playing]
688
00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:44,726
[Josh] When Alec finally came down...
689
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:50,065
I've never seen that look.
690
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:54,235
Like his guts were ripped out.
691
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,574
And he was like,
"I don't-- I don't-- I don't--
692
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,785
I don't know what happened,
I didn't-- I..."
693
00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:04,287
And at that point, everyone's like, "What?
694
00:36:04,371 --> 00:36:07,290
How could there be a bullet?
That-- that's-- how, how, how?"
695
00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:12,420
That night, I've never before
or since had a moment like that, where...
696
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,342
I'm laying there and I have this,
you know, wound in my shoulder,
697
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:21,262
and I'm sort of-- I get--
I remember thinking that night,
698
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:23,056
I'm like...
699
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:27,018
I just-- I didn't want to--
I hoped I didn't wake up the next morning.
700
00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:30,313
There wasn't a why about it,
I just felt so devastated...
701
00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:34,484
that I just thought,
maybe this is a good place
702
00:36:34,567 --> 00:36:36,528
for it to all stop, you know?
703
00:36:37,362 --> 00:36:39,197
And then I did wake up the next morning.
704
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,119
And we begin with that
deadly movie set tragedy.
705
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:46,996
-Actor Alec Baldwin firing a prop gun.
-[reporter 1] ...fired a prop gun.
706
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,207
-[reporter 2] Accidental shooting.
-[reporter 3] Fired a prop gun.
707
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,251
[reporter 4]
Tonight, the production has been halted
708
00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:53,169
and the investigation is underway.
709
00:36:53,253 --> 00:36:56,005
[♪ dramatic music playing]
710
00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:57,799
[Terese]
I was driving home from New Mexico,
711
00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:59,843
and my phone starts blowing up
712
00:36:59,926 --> 00:37:02,053
with calls from reporters and everything.
713
00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:03,847
And my husband called a little bit,
he's just like,
714
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:06,474
"There's helicopters over our house.
What's going on?"
715
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:08,852
I've never experienced
anything like it, it was horrible.
716
00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:10,854
Who do you blame for
the shooting, Alec?
717
00:37:10,937 --> 00:37:13,356
What people really wanted
from this was entertainment.
718
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,317
[reporter] The dead woman's widowerhad the heart-wrenching task
719
00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:18,945
of bringing the cinematographer'sbelongings
720
00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:22,240
from the film set back to their beach homein Venice, California.
721
00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:36,504
Coming home to, you know,
people kind of hiding in the bushes.
722
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:38,673
[camera clicking]
723
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,176
They want a picture of the guythat got shot by Alec Baldwin.
724
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,635
That's what they wanted.
725
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,972
[reporter]
Hey, Hannah, um, I'm a reporter.
726
00:37:46,055 --> 00:37:47,640
What-- Hannah, got any comment?
727
00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:52,645
[camera clicking]
728
00:37:52,729 --> 00:37:57,525
It's surreal to turn on CNN,
and there's your face.
729
00:37:57,609 --> 00:37:59,486
[reporter]
Now, we know that the other individual
730
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:02,906
that is a focus of the investigationis the assistant director, Dave Halls.
731
00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:05,033
We're waiting to hear from him.
732
00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:08,119
[Dave] Seemed like therewasn't a, a, a press organization
733
00:38:08,203 --> 00:38:10,246
in the world that didn't
want to talk to me.
734
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:13,208
And then, social networking stuff,that blew up.
735
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:17,837
It was crazy.
736
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:21,841
[reporter]
Investigators are trying to determine
737
00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:25,303
how a loaded prop gunmade it into the hands
738
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:27,347
of actor Alec Baldwin.
739
00:38:28,765 --> 00:38:30,725
Joining us now is Sheriff Adan Mendoza
740
00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:33,436
and District Attorney
Mary Carmack-Altwies.
741
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,897
Sheriff, obviously,
this is still ongoing investigation,
742
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:40,485
but are you able to tell us
how a live bullet got into the gun,
743
00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:43,112
and how-- how close
you and the FBI might be
744
00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:44,781
in determining what exactly happened?
745
00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:47,992
Uh, that's gonna be, uh,
the-- the million-dollar question,
746
00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,745
is how a live round ended up
in the revolver
747
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:53,331
that, uh, Mr. Baldwin fired.
748
00:38:53,414 --> 00:38:55,625
[Lorenzo]
The sheriff's office, they were building
749
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:57,585
a criminal investigation case.
750
00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,296
[Sheriff Adan Mendoza] We got statementsfrom the three individuals,
751
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:04,175
Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Halls,and Miss Gutierrez.
752
00:39:05,301 --> 00:39:07,720
[Lorenzo] I'd say it was probablya little too narrow.
753
00:39:07,804 --> 00:39:09,889
There's no way this is only
limited to three people. This--
754
00:39:09,973 --> 00:39:13,476
You can't have a culture that stems
from a low-level employee,
755
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,145
one actor, and one member of management,
756
00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,606
when there are much more hands at play.
757
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,693
[♪ tense music playing]
758
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:32,662
Every worker in America
has a right to a safe workplace,
759
00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:36,749
and that's OSHA's purpose,
is to en-- enforce that right.
760
00:39:36,833 --> 00:39:37,959
Ultimately,
761
00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:40,295
what I would like to do is
762
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:41,921
get pictures of where
the incident actually occurred.
763
00:39:42,005 --> 00:39:43,006
[crew member] Okay.
764
00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:48,428
[Lorenzo] Film doesn't exactly fitinto a traditional OSHA mold
765
00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:51,598
of this is a factory,or this is a construction site.
766
00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:54,517
I had probably dozens of questionsright off the bat.
767
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,105
During your timeon this production, how did it feel?
768
00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:02,233
[crew member 1] Attitude on set,we were actually a pretty good crew.
769
00:40:02,317 --> 00:40:03,985
[crew member 2] They're very professional.
770
00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:06,863
[crew member 3] Like, it was allvery manageable. Like, I could handle it.
771
00:40:06,946 --> 00:40:11,618
My gauge for this workplace
was that it was a good-- good culture.
772
00:40:11,701 --> 00:40:17,165
Um, where it wasn't
was on the safety aspect.
773
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:21,085
To the latest on the fatal film set
shooting involving Alec Baldwin.
774
00:40:21,169 --> 00:40:23,338
In just a moment,
we will speak exclusively
775
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:26,257
with the former first camera assistanton the film Rust,
776
00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:30,303
who resigned one day before the shooting,in part over safety concern claims.
777
00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:32,805
Lane, thank you
for joining us this morning.
778
00:40:32,889 --> 00:40:35,058
You know, you actually weren't on set
the day of the shooting.
779
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:37,393
You resigned the day before
for several reasons,
780
00:40:37,477 --> 00:40:38,853
including safety concerns.
781
00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:41,397
Specify what those safety concerns were.
782
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:47,612
Well, what I put in my resignation letter
was, uh, lax COVID policies,
783
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,531
and specifically gun safety,
a lack of rehearsals,
784
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:54,827
a lack of, you know, preparing the crew
for-- for what we were doing that day.
785
00:40:54,911 --> 00:40:58,414
[Rachel] Why did you feel
the need to speak publicly
786
00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:00,375
so quickly after it happened?
787
00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:02,752
Ooh, I didn't even want to.
[exhales sharply]
788
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:05,713
[♪ dramatic music playing]
789
00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:08,091
For me, it felt likethey didn't really care
790
00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:10,468
about, like, the crew being safe.
791
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:13,513
We wanted them to solve these problems.
792
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:17,684
It very quickly felt like somebody
was gonna get hurt
793
00:41:17,767 --> 00:41:19,060
if something didn't change.
794
00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:22,146
[♪ tense music playing]
795
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,695
Through our interviews,
we were able to determine
796
00:41:28,778 --> 00:41:31,364
that nobody was shooting
recreationally on set.
797
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:35,368
-[gun pops]
-But everyone references a misfire or two.
798
00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:40,164
We were inside of a cabin set,
799
00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:43,084
I was standing there,
we were getting ready to shoot,
800
00:41:43,418 --> 00:41:47,338
and the firearm just went off
in the stunt double's hand.
801
00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:49,090
I remember him going, "Whoa!"
802
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:50,174
And like, everybody was...
803
00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,760
everybody was startled.
804
00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:55,763
Seeing how, you know,
firearms were handled on set,
805
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,348
like, began to really bother me
806
00:41:57,432 --> 00:41:59,100
and just how people would hold guns
807
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:02,061
and, you know,
firearms getting pointed at people.
808
00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:04,772
Um, you know, I think, uh--
I think everything really came to a head
809
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:08,026
on the 16th of October, when the--
we had the two negligent discharges.
810
00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:11,112
[♪ tense music playing]
811
00:42:14,157 --> 00:42:16,492
The very first weapons misfire
812
00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:18,911
should have been an immediate red flag.
813
00:42:18,995 --> 00:42:21,414
"Stop the work,
let's find out what happened."
814
00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:23,750
Um, no one needs
to lose their job over it.
815
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:27,336
It's not the end of the world,
but you can't just ignore it.
816
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:31,132
And it was very shortly after
that first one,
817
00:42:31,215 --> 00:42:33,426
that the second discharge happens.
818
00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:35,178
When the second discharge happened,
819
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:37,180
that's the moment I texted the producers.
820
00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:41,267
[♪ tense music playing]
821
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,817
They took his complaint,
and... "Thank you for your time.
822
00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:54,405
Um, we'll make a note of that."
Nothing ever actually happened.
823
00:42:54,489 --> 00:42:57,450
Dave Halls doesn't know
he's supposed to investigate an accident.
824
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:00,661
[Lorenzo] As the safety coordinator,after a misfire,
825
00:43:00,745 --> 00:43:03,331
certainly, that wouldbe something to review.
826
00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:06,375
-Did you review what happened?
-[Dave] I did not review.
827
00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:09,879
[Lorenzo] Even Hannahsaid she thought it was weird
828
00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:12,423
that nobody ever asked her questions.
829
00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:16,469
[Lorenzo]
Did anyone ever sort of say anything?
830
00:43:16,552 --> 00:43:18,638
-[Hannah] No, and so that's---Did they talk to Sarah
831
00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:20,807
-or something like that?
-[Hannah] That was the crazy thing.
832
00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:24,852
Um, I fully expectedgetting canned after that.
833
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:27,939
If they did, or if anyonetalked to production about it,
834
00:43:28,022 --> 00:43:29,816
it was not addressed to me.
835
00:43:31,067 --> 00:43:34,278
You would expect that the people
who are in charge of production,
836
00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:37,323
the producers, like the--
the adults in the room
837
00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:40,159
would be adults in the room
and put stops to certain things,
838
00:43:40,243 --> 00:43:44,163
and would put stops to safety issues,
and that just never happened.
839
00:43:45,164 --> 00:43:47,083
[Rachel] Did you try to convince Halyna
840
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:49,669
that it was unsafe for herself?
841
00:43:49,752 --> 00:43:52,338
I was-- I was worried about her safety,
but I-- I...
842
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:56,217
I didn't get a chan--
I didn't-- I didn't tell her.
843
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:57,927
You know, I didn't ever go, you know,
844
00:43:58,010 --> 00:44:01,139
"You should leave, this is unsafe."
You know?
845
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:02,598
And-- and I should have.
846
00:44:04,142 --> 00:44:07,687
[♪ tense music playing]
847
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:10,982
[Jonas]
The day we quit felt kind of bittersweet
848
00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:12,859
'cause we were sticking up for ourselves.
849
00:44:12,942 --> 00:44:15,236
Like, we were showing these producers,
850
00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:17,613
"We're not gonna take your shit anymore.
Like, we're-- we're done."
851
00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:19,031
[equipment rattling]
852
00:44:19,949 --> 00:44:23,578
But then, the moment Halyna arrived,
853
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:26,706
it-- like, all of our hearts dropped,
854
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:28,833
'cause she looked, like, blindsided.
855
00:44:28,916 --> 00:44:30,710
She did not understand what was going on.
856
00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:33,629
She's like, "What's going on?"
We're like, "We're-- we're leaving.
857
00:44:33,713 --> 00:44:35,506
Like, we're done, like..."
858
00:44:36,465 --> 00:44:38,634
She's like, "I don't understand.
Like, it feels like I'm losing
859
00:44:38,718 --> 00:44:41,429
my best friends, and, um..."
860
00:44:43,139 --> 00:44:46,017
[♪ solemn music playing]
861
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:49,520
My expectations was that we would leave,
862
00:44:49,604 --> 00:44:52,440
and then that they would shut down
for a day and look at their safety things.
863
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:56,569
I was-- I was very surprisedthat they might continue working.
864
00:45:01,616 --> 00:45:03,409
[Jonas] [choking up] I heard her, uh...
865
00:45:04,785 --> 00:45:09,040
her monitor wasn't working,
and she had to...
866
00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,794
see the frame from the Steadicam,and I was like, well, if I was there...
867
00:45:15,004 --> 00:45:17,632
I could have put her monitor
outta harm's way, I could have...
868
00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:21,928
You know, I always made surethat she was out of the danger.
869
00:45:22,011 --> 00:45:24,263
Like, anytime the gun was pointed,
870
00:45:24,347 --> 00:45:27,350
I would make sure that monitor was safe.
871
00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:29,227
Patrick, go this way.
872
00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:30,937
[crew member] Sounds good. Speed.
873
00:45:31,562 --> 00:45:33,940
[Rachel] Why wouldn't she have walked off?
874
00:45:34,023 --> 00:45:36,943
My assumption, it's--
you know, and all I can do is assume.
875
00:45:37,026 --> 00:45:39,528
Um, you know, she had a great
relationship with Joel.
876
00:45:39,612 --> 00:45:42,698
She was very excited
about making a Western.
877
00:45:42,782 --> 00:45:46,285
And I-- you know,
as a filmmaker, as an artist,
878
00:45:46,369 --> 00:45:48,537
you know, when you get opportunities
like that, it's very hard
879
00:45:48,621 --> 00:45:50,665
to kind of step away from yourself.
880
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:53,542
We're all creatives, we're all artists,
and we just wanna make our art.
881
00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:56,087
You know,
that kinda sometimes, uh, blinds us
882
00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:59,340
to, like, the craziness around it,
you know?
883
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:01,050
You know, we don't make art
with paintbrushes.
884
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,719
We make art with explosives and gunpowder.
885
00:46:03,803 --> 00:46:05,805
[♪ tense music playing]
886
00:46:11,185 --> 00:46:14,188
[Joel] Everybody on a movie has theirindividual experiences that they lived.
887
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:16,440
And Lane talked about his experience,
888
00:46:16,524 --> 00:46:18,609
and the media sort of picked that upand ran with it.
889
00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:21,779
It just sort of becomesthat one thing in the media's eyes.
890
00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:22,947
Nothing is nuanced.
891
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:25,116
[reporter 1] ...where a half dozen membersof the camera department
892
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:26,742
walking off the Santa Fe set...
893
00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:29,495
[reporter 2] ...also said that there hadbeen guns that accidentally discharged...
894
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:32,915
[reporter 3] ...that corners were cuton this set in some regards.
895
00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:35,251
[reporter 4] I think cornerswere definitely cut on this set.
896
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:40,715
[Joel] And in reality,it was just a remarkably complex thing.
897
00:46:42,091 --> 00:46:43,843
And these days,
everybody's got an opinion,
898
00:46:43,926 --> 00:46:47,847
and you can just put it online
and pay no consequences,
899
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:51,892
and never think
about the people it's hurting.
900
00:46:51,976 --> 00:46:54,979
[♪ tense music playing]
901
00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:01,986
They're running with their accusations
about Alec Baldwin.
902
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:04,530
[onlooker] Why did you kill that lady?
903
00:47:04,613 --> 00:47:06,824
You killed that lady and got no jail time?
904
00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:09,660
This is how the press machine works.
905
00:47:09,744 --> 00:47:12,079
[Donald Trump]
He's a cuckoo bird. He's a nut job.
906
00:47:12,163 --> 00:47:16,500
And usually, uh,when there's somebody like that,
907
00:47:16,584 --> 00:47:20,254
you know, this-- he-- in my opinion,he had something to do with it.
908
00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:23,341
[Joel] There are two realities, right?
909
00:47:23,424 --> 00:47:25,676
And they exist in parallel,
but they don't intersect a ton.
910
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,430
There's the reality that the sort of world
has for the situation,
911
00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,807
this reality of, you know what's going on
912
00:47:31,891 --> 00:47:35,227
because you've lived it and you're in it,
and they're not always the same.
913
00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:41,942
[Frances] Have you talkedabout the storyline of Rust?
914
00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:45,446
It is about the rush to judgment.
915
00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:48,074
"There's gotta be somebody at fault."
916
00:47:48,157 --> 00:47:52,411
[Rachel] I thought you were gonna say,
"It's about an accidental shooting."
917
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:55,581
[indistinct chatter on monitor]
918
00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:01,587
A major portion of the movie
is about an-- an accidental shooting
919
00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:03,047
and the aftermath of that.
920
00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:10,346
You're just living this normal life,
921
00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:12,098
and then somebody
just tips you into a blender.
922
00:48:13,391 --> 00:48:16,310
And now, you're just sort of bouncingaround this blender, nothing makes sense.
923
00:48:17,478 --> 00:48:18,896
[Alec] My kids are in the car crying.
924
00:48:18,979 --> 00:48:20,356
Because you guys are following them
925
00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:22,233
-and they know.
-And all I wanna do, as a courtesy to you,
926
00:48:22,316 --> 00:48:24,026
I came to talk to you.
I'm not allowed to comment
927
00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:25,945
on the investigation.
I talk to the cops every day.
928
00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:27,238
-[reporter] Sorry.
-What other questions
929
00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:29,448
-do you have, other than that?
-[reporter] You met with the, uh,
930
00:48:29,532 --> 00:48:30,908
the-- the, um...
931
00:48:30,991 --> 00:48:32,535
-I forget her name in the moment.
-[Alec sighs]
932
00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:34,120
-But you met with her family in the days--
-Halyna.
933
00:48:34,203 --> 00:48:35,663
-Yes, I met with her husband.
-Her name is Halyna.
934
00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:36,997
If you're spending
this much time waiting for us,
935
00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:38,332
-you should know her name.
-You don't know her name?
936
00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:39,917
-Her name is Halyna.
-Come on. Halyna Hutchins.
937
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,878
I met with her husband Matthew
and her son, yeah, that's right.
938
00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:44,505
[Joel] It was just consumed.
939
00:48:45,172 --> 00:48:48,676
Just an ugly frenzy around-- around it.
940
00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:53,305
And they sort of erased her
from it really quickly.
941
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:57,643
[♪ somber music playing]
942
00:48:57,726 --> 00:48:59,103
[indistinct chatter]
943
00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:04,233
[crew chattering]
944
00:49:12,158 --> 00:49:14,743
[Rachel] Were you at the memorial?That might be where we met, right?
945
00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,579
-[Craig] Yeah.
-[Rachel] What was that like for you?
946
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:20,166
Well, being there was actually really--
947
00:49:20,249 --> 00:49:23,711
it was really cathartic and wonderful,
because this was the first time
948
00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:26,255
I was surrounded
by the people she knew best.
949
00:49:26,338 --> 00:49:27,798
[♪ somber music continues]
950
00:49:27,882 --> 00:49:29,383
[speaker] I personally admire her courage,
951
00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:32,595
her artistry, her tenacity...
952
00:49:34,013 --> 00:49:37,558
One thing that was really wonderful
was that that was the first time
953
00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:39,935
that I got to meet Matt face to face.
954
00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:44,148
And it was funnybecause I was kind of a wreck,
955
00:49:44,231 --> 00:49:47,026
and Matt had his head on straight,
956
00:49:47,193 --> 00:49:51,030
and was telling me, "It's gonna be okay."
957
00:49:51,113 --> 00:49:53,491
She would have complained
958
00:49:53,574 --> 00:49:56,911
that she wasn't supposed
to become famous for who she was
959
00:49:56,994 --> 00:49:58,579
but for her art.
960
00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:01,582
[♪ contemplative music playing]
961
00:50:04,043 --> 00:50:05,044
[director] Action!
962
00:50:13,302 --> 00:50:14,303
Growing up,
963
00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:15,387
in the Arctic Circle,
964
00:50:15,471 --> 00:50:16,847
on a military base,
965
00:50:17,139 --> 00:50:19,058
with not that much to do,
966
00:50:20,059 --> 00:50:21,644
I was mostly...
967
00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:24,313
studying and watching movies.
968
00:50:25,439 --> 00:50:29,860
We both came from different
countries to Los Angeles
969
00:50:29,944 --> 00:50:32,655
to study at AFI, study cinematography.
970
00:50:32,738 --> 00:50:37,993
It's not very often for a female
to study this kind of subject.
971
00:50:38,077 --> 00:50:40,788
[indistinct chatter]
972
00:50:40,871 --> 00:50:42,164
[laughter]
973
00:50:42,248 --> 00:50:45,251
-Stop it! Gorgeous.
-Right, right.
974
00:50:47,002 --> 00:50:48,212
I moved to the States
975
00:50:48,295 --> 00:50:50,756
because I already was
really interested in film,
976
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,051
and I wanted to
977
00:50:54,134 --> 00:50:55,678
work my way up
978
00:50:55,761 --> 00:50:57,555
and do as much as I can.
979
00:50:58,389 --> 00:51:01,517
[Olesia]
She was very much a role model for me.
980
00:51:03,811 --> 00:51:05,604
I was like, "I want to be like her.
981
00:51:05,688 --> 00:51:09,900
I wanna be successful cinematographer,
with a family, with a kid."
982
00:51:11,151 --> 00:51:14,154
-[child chattering]
-[wind whipping]
983
00:51:16,407 --> 00:51:18,909
[Olesia] We're all angry. Like, why her?
984
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:21,620
How did this happen?
985
00:51:23,163 --> 00:51:26,542
[carriage rattling]
986
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:27,668
[driver] Whoa.
987
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:30,254
[Lorenzo] As I'm learning moreabout the culture on this set,
988
00:51:30,337 --> 00:51:33,757
the question of who is the boss
is something we have to ask repeatedly.
989
00:51:35,968 --> 00:51:39,555
In this case, we havea multitude of producers.
990
00:51:40,681 --> 00:51:42,891
Their direct subordinateswould be Gabrielle Pickle
991
00:51:42,975 --> 00:51:46,312
and Row Walters,and, uh, by extension, Dave Halls.
992
00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:49,440
They're all calling shotson the work floor.
993
00:51:49,523 --> 00:51:51,609
They're all making decisions.
994
00:51:51,692 --> 00:51:54,028
They have hired Hannah Gutierrez-Reed.
995
00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:57,865
[Hannah] My name is Hannah Gutierrez.
996
00:51:57,948 --> 00:51:59,450
I go by Hannah Gutierrez-Reed.
997
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:04,121
[OSHA investigator] And how did you end up
working on the Rust movie set?
998
00:52:04,204 --> 00:52:07,291
Did you apply-- it sounds like
you didn't apply for this job.
999
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:09,877
Uh, no, not really.
1000
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,255
Um, a lot of things in the film industry
are word of mouth.
1001
00:52:13,339 --> 00:52:17,384
And Row had mentioned
that they were running outta time,
1002
00:52:17,468 --> 00:52:21,513
and that, uh, two armorers had bailed
on them at the very last second,
1003
00:52:21,597 --> 00:52:26,143
and that they could not find
anybody in Albuquerque.
1004
00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:30,314
And that's why they ended up,
uh, choosing me.
1005
00:52:30,397 --> 00:52:32,650
[OSHA investigator] Did you feel like
you had enough time and resources
1006
00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:34,485
to perform your armorer job duties?
1007
00:52:35,486 --> 00:52:38,697
Um, pretty much absolutely not.
1008
00:52:38,781 --> 00:52:43,077
And anyway, um, so basically,
1009
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,413
I-- I normally have a lot
more time in the scene
1010
00:52:46,497 --> 00:52:49,875
to just focus on the weapons,
but due to my second job
1011
00:52:49,958 --> 00:52:52,711
being key assistant props,
there were a lot of times...
1012
00:52:52,795 --> 00:52:56,006
Hannah is only afforded
eight days as an armorer.
1013
00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:57,633
It's at a higher pay rate.
1014
00:52:57,716 --> 00:53:00,844
The rest of her time
would be as a prop assistant,
1015
00:53:00,928 --> 00:53:02,179
which is a lesser pay rate.
1016
00:53:03,347 --> 00:53:05,349
She was told by Gabrielle Pickle,
1017
00:53:05,432 --> 00:53:08,227
"You're spending too muchtime on your firearms tasks."
1018
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:11,313
[♪ tense music playing]
1019
00:53:15,651 --> 00:53:17,277
"By the way,you left a firearm unattended.
1020
00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:19,405
You need to pay more attentionto your firearms."
1021
00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:28,455
Well, which is it?
"Hurry up, but also pay attention,
1022
00:53:28,539 --> 00:53:30,708
but hurry up and you're taking too long."
1023
00:53:30,791 --> 00:53:32,793
Definitely just threw me for a loop
1024
00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:35,963
that somebody would want me
to not focus on the weapons.
1025
00:53:40,008 --> 00:53:43,470
I told them that basicallyI needed time to clean the guns,
1026
00:53:43,554 --> 00:53:47,516
and that we needed more training time,
um, particularly with Alec.
1027
00:53:50,978 --> 00:53:53,355
They gave me one maintenance day,
1028
00:53:53,439 --> 00:53:56,859
which you're supposed to clean themat the end of every day
1029
00:53:56,942 --> 00:53:59,111
to make sure that they work right.
1030
00:53:59,194 --> 00:54:01,113
And Gabrielle said no more training days,
1031
00:54:01,196 --> 00:54:04,116
and we never got to do
our last training day with him.
1032
00:54:10,914 --> 00:54:12,916
Where is management's priority?
1033
00:54:13,917 --> 00:54:16,837
Are we pushing production,
production, production,
1034
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,758
over people's safety due to money?
1035
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:22,634
It's bad enough now in movies,
1036
00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:23,719
they don't have enough money,
1037
00:54:23,802 --> 00:54:24,803
to make movies.
1038
00:54:24,887 --> 00:54:27,473
And that's - I did notice that
on this show.
1039
00:54:27,556 --> 00:54:29,016
They were super cheap,
1040
00:54:29,099 --> 00:54:30,142
and they were cheaping it out
1041
00:54:30,225 --> 00:54:31,810
every freaking way they could,
1042
00:54:31,894 --> 00:54:34,438
and that's why they ended up
with the lowball armorer.
1043
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:36,690
Because she was the only one
who would do it
1044
00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:38,150
for the money they would give her.
1045
00:54:38,984 --> 00:54:40,652
And now, here we are.
1046
00:54:40,986 --> 00:54:44,656
But every accident is proceeded
by a series of failures,
1047
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:47,618
which is why we issued a willful citation.
1048
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:50,454
There was enough input
from management, enough knowledge,
1049
00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:55,042
enough warning, enough complaints,
um, all of these red flags,
1050
00:54:55,125 --> 00:54:57,669
and management said,
"Well, let's just move on."
1051
00:54:57,753 --> 00:54:59,922
We call that plain indifference.
1052
00:55:00,005 --> 00:55:02,966
Hannah is a symptom of an illness.
1053
00:55:03,967 --> 00:55:05,802
She's not the illness.
1054
00:55:05,886 --> 00:55:08,889
[♪ tense music playing]
1055
00:55:28,325 --> 00:55:32,454
[Kari Morrissey]
I got a call from the District Attorney
1056
00:55:32,538 --> 00:55:34,039
for Santa Fe.
1057
00:55:34,122 --> 00:55:38,377
I kind of expressed to her my reservations
1058
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:40,921
about whether or not
a criminal prosecution
1059
00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:44,299
in this case was appropriate.
1060
00:55:44,383 --> 00:55:48,512
And she said, "Just let me
tell you about the facts."
1061
00:55:51,181 --> 00:55:52,516
So...
1062
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,519
Obviously, everybody has said, you know...
1063
00:55:56,144 --> 00:55:58,480
No one ever suspected
live rounds to be on the set.
1064
00:55:58,564 --> 00:56:00,399
Yeah. That's a given.
1065
00:56:00,482 --> 00:56:02,276
Live rounds aren't allowed.
1066
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,111
Absolutely not,
1067
00:56:04,194 --> 00:56:06,989
and especially wouldn't
have been brought to set,
1068
00:56:07,072 --> 00:56:09,199
or anything like that, either.
1069
00:56:09,283 --> 00:56:11,410
-Right.
-So the thing is...
1070
00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:13,370
There are other live rounds
1071
00:56:13,453 --> 00:56:16,456
that were found in other various places.
1072
00:56:16,707 --> 00:56:17,708
Really?
1073
00:56:17,791 --> 00:56:19,126
Not in that box.
1074
00:56:20,168 --> 00:56:21,253
Really?
1075
00:56:22,129 --> 00:56:23,755
Where were they found?
1076
00:56:25,215 --> 00:56:26,925
I'll go through the pictures
because I can't...
1077
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:29,636
There's like so many
different areas, and...
1078
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:31,805
I'm going to go over that
with you guys, okay?
1079
00:56:31,888 --> 00:56:33,974
Yeah. That's news to me. WOW.
1080
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:35,601
These two,
1081
00:56:36,101 --> 00:56:37,686
were on the top of the cart.
1082
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:39,438
Okay.
1083
00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:40,689
Suspected live rounds.
1084
00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:42,232
Okay.
1085
00:56:44,484 --> 00:56:46,987
Two out of the three of these
are suspected live.
1086
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:52,326
This is on the top of the cart.
1087
00:56:52,826 --> 00:56:54,244
So, it's not like from a different area,
1088
00:56:54,328 --> 00:56:55,370
these were on the top oinf the cart.
1089
00:56:55,454 --> 00:56:56,747
Okay, yeah, I understand.
1090
00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:03,587
This is Alec's belt.
1091
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:05,547
-Yeah.
-Okay.
1092
00:57:05,631 --> 00:57:06,923
Also suspected live.
1093
00:57:07,007 --> 00:57:08,133
One of these two.
1094
00:57:09,676 --> 00:57:11,428
This is another box,
1095
00:57:12,804 --> 00:57:15,557
with one suspected live.
1096
00:57:15,641 --> 00:57:16,725
Okay.
1097
00:57:19,102 --> 00:57:20,228
Copy that.
1098
00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:22,689
Yeah. I'm not really sure about
1099
00:57:23,857 --> 00:57:24,941
this box.
1100
00:57:25,025 --> 00:57:27,277
Why would there be live ammo on the set?
1101
00:57:27,819 --> 00:57:29,946
I have no idea.
1102
00:57:30,781 --> 00:57:31,907
At this point,
1103
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:34,785
it's kind of seeming like somehow
these were mixed in.
1104
00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:42,918
Did you ever do gun practice on this set?
1105
00:57:43,001 --> 00:57:44,169
Never.
1106
00:57:44,252 --> 00:57:45,337
Not once.
1107
00:57:46,588 --> 00:57:47,631
That's fucking crazy.
1108
00:57:47,714 --> 00:57:48,715
That's crazy.
1109
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,967
That's like literally insane.
1110
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,595
Six total.
1111
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:57,766
Six-- Six-- six bullets total,
uh, live bullets
1112
00:57:57,849 --> 00:57:59,393
were floating around on that movie set.
1113
00:57:59,476 --> 00:58:01,353
And they had been
floating around on that movie set
1114
00:58:01,436 --> 00:58:03,772
since approximately October 10th.
1115
00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:06,400
[reporter 1]
They found live rounds on set.
1116
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:09,027
That is absolutely unacceptable.
1117
00:58:09,111 --> 00:58:11,780
[reporter 2] They believethere were multiple live rounds.
1118
00:58:11,863 --> 00:58:14,408
How on earth was that even possible?
1119
00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:16,493
[gunshots popping]
1120
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:20,997
Oh, my God, on a set
where we are shooting guns every day,
1121
00:58:21,081 --> 00:58:23,583
the danger of that is horrifying.
1122
00:58:24,292 --> 00:58:26,545
I could have been the personwho shot someone,
1123
00:58:26,628 --> 00:58:28,463
or I could have beenthe person who got shot.
1124
00:58:28,547 --> 00:58:30,924
Like, all of us feel thatwho are around it.
1125
00:58:31,007 --> 00:58:32,926
Like, "Oh, my God,
we were firing guns every day."
1126
00:58:33,009 --> 00:58:35,137
-I can go to get 'em...
-Yeah...
1127
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:37,305
-[Thomas] No one wanted to believe it.
-No one wanted to believe
1128
00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:38,890
that it could be a real bullet.
1129
00:58:38,974 --> 00:58:40,809
It was unthinkable.
1130
00:58:40,892 --> 00:58:43,895
It was-- nobody thought that
that could happen.
1131
00:58:43,979 --> 00:58:46,648
Sloppiness. It's just pure sloppiness.
1132
00:58:47,816 --> 00:58:49,151
Unprofessional.
1133
00:58:49,234 --> 00:58:52,237
[♪ solemn music playing]
1134
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,322
[crew chattering]
1135
00:58:55,741 --> 00:58:58,577
[reporter] The father of armorerHannah Gutierrez-Reed
1136
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:00,537
speaking out to defend her.
1137
00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:05,000
As a father, are you concerned
that Hannah could go to jail?
1138
00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:06,168
No.
1139
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:08,211
No.
1140
00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:10,255
The-- the sheriff's department
will get to the bottom of this.
1141
00:59:10,338 --> 00:59:11,548
I'm not worried about that at all.
1142
00:59:15,385 --> 00:59:17,971
[Kari] Hannah Gutierrez had-- had a job.
1143
00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:21,558
The primary purpose
of her job is to make sure that--
1144
00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:23,727
that there isn't a live round
on that movie set,
1145
00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:26,730
that it doesn't get
mixed in, uh, with dummy rounds,
1146
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:30,776
that all of those rounds are-- are tested
before they're put in the gun.
1147
00:59:30,859 --> 00:59:32,277
None of that happened.
1148
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,363
[♪ solemn music playing]
1149
00:59:40,285 --> 00:59:43,163
With regard to Alec Baldwin,
1150
00:59:43,246 --> 00:59:48,001
he wasn't required to cock the gun
during that rehearsal
1151
00:59:48,084 --> 00:59:52,631
and he, uh, certainly wasn't required
to pull the trigger of the gun.
1152
00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:55,675
Uh, and there's evidence
that-- that he did those things.
1153
00:59:55,759 --> 00:59:57,552
He's got a real gun in his hand.
1154
00:59:57,636 --> 00:59:59,471
Uh, we know that he pointed it
at two people
1155
00:59:59,554 --> 01:00:00,806
because two people got shot.
1156
01:00:05,644 --> 01:00:07,729
Got countless people online saying,
1157
01:00:07,813 --> 01:00:10,065
"You idiot, you never point
a gun at someone."
1158
01:00:10,148 --> 01:00:13,485
Well, unless you're told it's empty,
and it's the director of photography
1159
01:00:13,568 --> 01:00:16,613
who's instructing you on-- on the angle
for a shot we're gonna do.
1160
01:00:16,696 --> 01:00:21,743
Never point a gun at somebody
unless you intend to shoot them.
1161
01:00:24,663 --> 01:00:27,082
So, yes, that rule was violated.
1162
01:00:28,333 --> 01:00:31,920
Clearly, Alec Baldwin
was pointing the gun towards Halyna.
1163
01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:38,260
The sad irony is that Halyna
was telling him where to point the gun.
1164
01:00:41,263 --> 01:00:45,642
Those of us that work in the movies,we've all seen, many times,
1165
01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:48,019
guns being pointed at people.
1166
01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:54,609
[gunshots]
1167
01:00:56,152 --> 01:00:59,364
This is a prop in a dramatic piece.
1168
01:00:59,447 --> 01:01:03,493
It's adding a dramatic element
to this scene.
1169
01:01:04,703 --> 01:01:07,581
We're not thinking
that this is an instrument of death.
1170
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:13,879
-Do you feel guilt?
-No. No.
1171
01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:17,340
I feel that there is--
I-I feel that-- that-- that...
1172
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:21,261
someone is responsible for what happened,
1173
01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:23,597
and I can't say who that is,
but I know it's not me.
1174
01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:29,060
[Matt Hutchins] The idea that the personholding the gun,
1175
01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:31,521
causing it to discharge
is not responsible,
1176
01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:33,189
is absurd to me.
1177
01:01:33,273 --> 01:01:36,484
Uh, every individual who touches a firearm
1178
01:01:36,568 --> 01:01:38,612
has a responsibility for gun safety.
1179
01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:41,156
So, that's how you think?
You th-- You think it was Alec Baldwin
1180
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:42,991
was responsible for killing her?
1181
01:01:43,909 --> 01:01:48,038
Well, in the lawsuit that we filed,
we've detailed a number of ways
1182
01:01:48,121 --> 01:01:51,583
that he and others
were responsible for her death.
1183
01:01:52,834 --> 01:01:55,295
[reporter] The family of Rust
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
1184
01:01:55,378 --> 01:01:59,215
filing a wrongful death lawsuitnaming several crew members, producers.
1185
01:01:59,299 --> 01:02:01,384
They're looking to holda lot of people accountable.
1186
01:02:03,053 --> 01:02:04,763
Then, we get to Mr. Halls.
1187
01:02:04,846 --> 01:02:07,682
Mr. Halls is the checks and balances.
1188
01:02:09,351 --> 01:02:11,770
So, what Mr. Halls is supposed to do,
1189
01:02:11,853 --> 01:02:15,440
is he's supposed to make surethat every round
1190
01:02:15,523 --> 01:02:18,443
that she's put in that gun is inert,
1191
01:02:18,526 --> 01:02:21,613
because we're not gonna leave
that job to just one person,
1192
01:02:21,696 --> 01:02:23,448
because we know that people make mistakes.
1193
01:02:23,531 --> 01:02:26,284
So, we're gonna make sure
that there's a second person
1194
01:02:26,368 --> 01:02:29,162
who's gonna also participate
in that check.
1195
01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,581
Hannah brought me the gun.
1196
01:02:31,665 --> 01:02:33,291
She opened up the-- the hatch...
1197
01:02:34,417 --> 01:02:36,252
and I saw three bullets.
1198
01:02:36,336 --> 01:02:38,880
And you only saw the three?
1199
01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:41,883
-I only saw the three.
-Okay.
1200
01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:45,470
Do you normally check all of them, or...
1201
01:02:45,553 --> 01:02:47,430
what-- what do you usually do?
1202
01:02:47,514 --> 01:02:49,224
-Should.
-Okay.
1203
01:02:51,059 --> 01:02:52,727
And he doesn't check.
1204
01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:57,023
I was negligent in--
in the inspection of that gun.
1205
01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:01,486
It could have been
a more thorough inspection.
1206
01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:04,406
I-- I pled guilty.
1207
01:03:06,157 --> 01:03:07,325
Pled guilty.
1208
01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:11,454
[♪ solemn music playing]
1209
01:03:16,501 --> 01:03:19,295
A thorough... inspection didn't happen.
1210
01:03:19,379 --> 01:03:21,589
I could have been a last line of defense.
1211
01:03:26,052 --> 01:03:27,929
[reporter 1] Today, the Santa Fe CountySheriff's Office
1212
01:03:28,013 --> 01:03:30,015
releasing its full investigation
1213
01:03:30,098 --> 01:03:32,642
into the tragic Rust movie set shooting.
1214
01:03:32,726 --> 01:03:34,227
[reporter 2]
Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office
1215
01:03:34,310 --> 01:03:36,229
released thousands of files.
1216
01:03:36,312 --> 01:03:40,066
[reporter 3] Legal experts say the amountof information released was unprecedented.
1217
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:42,902
[reporter 4] The familyof Halyna Hutchins is outraged.
1218
01:03:45,488 --> 01:03:48,033
[reporter 5] Now, as the blame gameplays out in public,
1219
01:03:48,116 --> 01:03:51,661
it's the District Attorneywho will have the final say
1220
01:03:51,745 --> 01:03:54,622
over any potential criminal charges.
1221
01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:57,959
[reporter 6]
Just because it's an accident,
1222
01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:00,253
doesn't mean that it's not criminal.
1223
01:04:00,336 --> 01:04:03,548
They didn't mean to do it,they didn't have the intent to kill,
1224
01:04:03,631 --> 01:04:05,091
but it happened anyway.
1225
01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:28,865
[reporter 7] The trial of the film'sweapons handler began today.
1226
01:04:28,948 --> 01:04:32,744
Armorer Hannah Gutierrezfaces a maximum three years in jail.
1227
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:35,371
She is in the courtroom all ready to go.
1228
01:04:36,831 --> 01:04:40,960
We are nearing the startof the opening statements in her trial.
1229
01:04:41,044 --> 01:04:44,714
There she is.Uh, she's got a much different look
1230
01:04:44,798 --> 01:04:47,884
than she did at the time of the shooting.
1231
01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:50,970
[♪ solemn music playing]
1232
01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:53,264
-You ready?
-Yes.
1233
01:04:53,348 --> 01:04:55,475
Okay. Okay, so I called the case.
1234
01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:58,353
So, this is a criminal case
commenced by the state,
1235
01:04:58,436 --> 01:05:01,272
charging, uh, the, uh, defendant
1236
01:05:01,356 --> 01:05:04,067
with a third amended criminal information.
1237
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:07,946
I, uh, will read this to you
to remind you of what the charges are.
1238
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,116
[Devon] The differencebetween the public perception
1239
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:14,577
and, like, the personal perception,there's such a chasm between it.
1240
01:05:14,661 --> 01:05:16,788
I know these people, and I was there,
and I'm watching things
1241
01:05:16,871 --> 01:05:19,040
that I was there for and saw.
1242
01:05:19,124 --> 01:05:22,585
Director of Photography
and as a byproduct of that camera team...
1243
01:05:23,086 --> 01:05:28,258
Even Hannah, it doesn't bring me any joy
to watch her go through this trial.
1244
01:05:28,341 --> 01:05:29,634
It's painful.
1245
01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:38,852
[Josh] The internet is going to internet.
1246
01:05:38,935 --> 01:05:42,188
You know, the land of cowardscan be enraging because they're--
1247
01:05:42,272 --> 01:05:45,024
don't know anything about a movie set,
1248
01:05:45,108 --> 01:05:48,611
don't know anything
about the hearts of people involved.
1249
01:05:48,695 --> 01:05:50,530
[reporter 1] Well, as you said,we're gonna get a witness
1250
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,408
who's gonna take the stand and explainhow that ammunition got to the set.
1251
01:05:53,533 --> 01:05:56,536
[reporter 2] Yeah, the state showedthe jury police body cam video.
1252
01:05:56,619 --> 01:05:59,789
[reporter 3] Jury could make a decisionon this case as early as next week.
1253
01:05:59,873 --> 01:06:02,876
[♪ tense music playing]
1254
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:07,881
-[reporters chattering]
-[cameras clicking]
1255
01:06:08,673 --> 01:06:12,802
[Kari] I wanted to negotiate a pleathat would have kept her out of jail.
1256
01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:15,638
And it wasn't successful.
1257
01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:19,517
Every criminal defendant has
a constitutional right to-- to a trial,
1258
01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,561
and that was the decision that she made.
1259
01:06:24,272 --> 01:06:27,692
The evidence in the Gutierrez trialclearly indicated
1260
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:31,529
that Hannah Gutierrez had a job
1261
01:06:31,613 --> 01:06:33,364
to make sure that these guns are safe,
1262
01:06:33,448 --> 01:06:35,867
make sure that all
of this ammunition is inert.
1263
01:06:36,784 --> 01:06:39,621
It is my opinion,and I believe that we proved it,
1264
01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:42,707
that she's not checking the ammunition.
1265
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:47,086
She loaded a live round
into Mr. Baldwin's gun,
1266
01:06:47,170 --> 01:06:50,632
uh, and-- and that was
her primary failure.
1267
01:06:51,758 --> 01:06:54,427
[Rachel] Where did the bullets
actually come from?
1268
01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:58,973
[Kari] I believe that the evidencedemonstrates that Hannah Gutierrez
1269
01:06:59,057 --> 01:07:00,934
brought those live rounds on set.
1270
01:07:03,228 --> 01:07:06,064
Did you ever discover any evidence
that Hannah Gutierrez
1271
01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:08,983
was the person
who brought the live rounds on set?
1272
01:07:11,903 --> 01:07:13,696
I guess it was circumstantial.
1273
01:07:15,073 --> 01:07:17,492
[Kari] What circumstantial evidence
are you referring to?
1274
01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:21,621
[Alexandria]
She, uh, identified in her interview,
1275
01:07:21,704 --> 01:07:24,832
and I asked her to show me
what a box of hers would look like.
1276
01:07:24,916 --> 01:07:28,002
So, we had two boxes
of .45 Long Colt dummies
1277
01:07:28,086 --> 01:07:30,046
that were mine from the last show.
1278
01:07:30,129 --> 01:07:33,591
[Alexandria]
She identified one on her phone.
1279
01:07:33,675 --> 01:07:35,176
That picture on her phone
1280
01:07:35,260 --> 01:07:39,806
matched exactly that box that we had.
1281
01:07:39,889 --> 01:07:42,600
[Hannah crying]
So, here's the box that I got them out of.
1282
01:07:42,684 --> 01:07:45,311
[Tim] Okay. Leave 'em right there.
Leave 'em right there.
1283
01:07:45,395 --> 01:07:47,522
I don't know if she got
those live rounds from her dad,
1284
01:07:47,605 --> 01:07:50,024
if she-- if she picked 'em up
at a gun store.
1285
01:07:50,108 --> 01:07:53,236
I have no idea.
Uh, I can tell you that the evidence
1286
01:07:53,319 --> 01:07:56,990
indicates that she brought them
onto the set.
1287
01:07:57,073 --> 01:07:59,534
[Rachel] And I guess the question is,
well, why does it matter
1288
01:07:59,617 --> 01:08:01,828
-where they came from?
-It doesn't.
1289
01:08:01,911 --> 01:08:04,122
It doesn't matter where they came from.
1290
01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:07,792
The only reason that it matters
in Hannah's case
1291
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:11,838
is because it's an additional level
1292
01:08:11,921 --> 01:08:14,132
of negligence and recklessness.
1293
01:08:21,014 --> 01:08:23,141
-[people chattering]
-[reporter] We're learning that the jury
1294
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:24,976
has reached a verdict.
1295
01:08:25,059 --> 01:08:26,644
Let's keep listening in live.
1296
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:29,981
[juror] We find the defendant,
Hannah Gutierrez,
1297
01:08:30,064 --> 01:08:32,233
guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
1298
01:08:32,317 --> 01:08:35,320
[Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer]
We will set a sentencing date.
1299
01:08:35,403 --> 01:08:37,280
And we need an order of remand.
1300
01:08:38,364 --> 01:08:40,074
[Rachel] What-- what were your thoughts?
1301
01:08:40,158 --> 01:08:43,703
I mean, I certainly don't feel good
about someone going to prison.
1302
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:45,788
There's no win there.
1303
01:08:45,872 --> 01:08:47,790
[inaudible conversation]
1304
01:08:47,874 --> 01:08:51,711
[Joel] And so, I just kind of felt awful.
1305
01:08:53,588 --> 01:08:55,840
[Terese] I don't knowthat there's any answer to this,
1306
01:08:55,923 --> 01:08:59,969
'cause I'm sure if it was my wife
or mother, I'd want justice.
1307
01:09:00,053 --> 01:09:02,722
But I don't know
how you get justice from an accident.
1308
01:09:04,223 --> 01:09:07,226
[♪ solemn music playing]
1309
01:09:12,482 --> 01:09:17,111
[Frances] The sloppiness that Hannahdisplayed that first day of mine...
1310
01:09:19,113 --> 01:09:22,367
I wish I had said something to her,
1311
01:09:22,450 --> 01:09:25,161
and I wish I had said something to Alec.
1312
01:09:25,244 --> 01:09:27,997
But I don't wanna make waves, see?
1313
01:09:28,081 --> 01:09:31,959
And would my alerting somebody,
1314
01:09:32,043 --> 01:09:34,420
would that have changed anything?
1315
01:09:36,005 --> 01:09:39,092
That's what... [sighs]
1316
01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:41,219
gnaws at me.
1317
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:50,686
[Olesia] There was part-- part of methat felt that there is justice.
1318
01:09:50,770 --> 01:09:54,565
Another part of me,
I felt like I miss my friend,
1319
01:09:54,649 --> 01:09:57,110
and it's so personal to me, and it's--
1320
01:09:57,193 --> 01:10:00,405
because somebody's in jail
doesn't make me...
1321
01:10:01,531 --> 01:10:02,990
feel that I have my friend back.
1322
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,618
[Judge Sommer] You were the armorer.
1323
01:10:05,702 --> 01:10:09,497
You alone turned a safe weapon
into a lethal weapon.
1324
01:10:09,580 --> 01:10:12,166
But for you, Ms. Hutchins would be alive,
1325
01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:15,670
a husband would have his partner,
and a little boy would have his mother.
1326
01:10:16,754 --> 01:10:17,839
Please take her.
1327
01:10:19,382 --> 01:10:22,802
[reporter] The Rust movie armorer,Hannah Gutierrez-Reed,
1328
01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:26,431
has been sentencedto the maximum amount of time in prison,
1329
01:10:26,514 --> 01:10:30,643
18 months, in her role for the death
1330
01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:33,062
of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.
1331
01:10:34,063 --> 01:10:37,024
[♪ solemn music playing]
1332
01:10:37,108 --> 01:10:39,152
[Joel] Whenever there's somebig thing that happens with Rust,
1333
01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:41,571
there's always a certain amount
of devastation that comes with it.
1334
01:10:41,654 --> 01:10:45,158
So, it's just-- it--
and it never seems to end.
1335
01:10:49,036 --> 01:10:51,247
[reporter] Mr. Baldwin,
would you like to say anything today?
1336
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:53,166
[overlapping chatter]
1337
01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:54,834
[reporter 1]
Mr. Baldwin, how confident are you
1338
01:10:54,917 --> 01:10:57,170
-that the jury will find you not guilty?
-[reporter 2] ...end in jail time?
1339
01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:58,921
[reporter 3]
Alec Baldwin's stoic as he entered
1340
01:10:59,005 --> 01:11:01,632
this Santa Fe, New Mexico courthouse.
1341
01:11:01,716 --> 01:11:04,886
A central question for jurors,did Baldwin pull the trigger
1342
01:11:04,969 --> 01:11:07,138
or did the gun misfire?
1343
01:11:07,221 --> 01:11:09,640
Baldwin has long maintained his innocence.
1344
01:11:09,724 --> 01:11:12,560
The defense will make the casethat it's not the job of an actor
1345
01:11:12,643 --> 01:11:15,563
to ensure a prop gundoesn't contain live rounds.
1346
01:11:16,564 --> 01:11:18,941
[Kari] It's not his job to make sure
1347
01:11:19,025 --> 01:11:21,486
that there isn't a live round in that gun.
1348
01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:26,199
It is his job to handle the gun safely
once it's in his hand.
1349
01:11:26,282 --> 01:11:28,951
[reporter 1] Opening statementsstarted this morning,
1350
01:11:29,035 --> 01:11:30,661
and so far,two witnesses have been called.
1351
01:11:30,745 --> 01:11:32,371
[reporter 2]
Baldwin has pleaded not guilty.
1352
01:11:32,455 --> 01:11:35,792
If convicted, he facesup to 18 months in prison.
1353
01:11:35,875 --> 01:11:38,878
[♪ tense music playing]
1354
01:11:43,508 --> 01:11:46,302
Real-life drama playing out
in the trial of Alec Baldwin.
1355
01:11:46,385 --> 01:11:48,304
[reporter] You could feelthe tension in the courtroom
1356
01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:49,931
as the case started to unravel.
1357
01:11:50,014 --> 01:11:52,850
[Devon] Alec's trial was surreal,
1358
01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:57,230
his lawyer catching onto that piece
of missed evidence
1359
01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:59,148
and then just honing in on it.
1360
01:11:59,232 --> 01:12:02,193
[lawyer] They buried it.
They put it under a different case
1361
01:12:02,276 --> 01:12:03,945
with a different number.
1362
01:12:04,028 --> 01:12:06,864
We asked, "We want all the live ammunition
1363
01:12:06,948 --> 01:12:09,659
from the Rust set that you collected.
It's not there."
1364
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:13,329
[reporter] That evidence,an envelope of ammunition
1365
01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,748
turned into investigatorsearlier this year,
1366
01:12:15,832 --> 01:12:17,583
allegedly from the same batch
1367
01:12:17,667 --> 01:12:20,962
that killed Rust cinematographerHalyna Hutchins.
1368
01:12:21,045 --> 01:12:22,755
[Kari] This is a wild goose chase.
1369
01:12:22,839 --> 01:12:25,258
This has no evidentiary value whatsoever.
1370
01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:31,138
They were able to convince her
that this ammunition,
1371
01:12:31,222 --> 01:12:33,599
dropped off two and a half years later,
1372
01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:36,060
was somehow relevant
to the case against Mr. Baldwin.
1373
01:12:36,143 --> 01:12:37,770
They convinced her of that.
1374
01:12:37,854 --> 01:12:39,772
[lawyer]
Now, this is critical evidence in the case
1375
01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:41,357
that was never disclosed to us.
1376
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,150
This case should be dismissed, Your Honor.
1377
01:12:43,234 --> 01:12:44,861
[Judge Sommer] This evidence is material.
1378
01:12:44,944 --> 01:12:47,113
The late discovery of this evidence
during trial
1379
01:12:47,196 --> 01:12:50,199
has impeded the effective use
of evidence in such a way
1380
01:12:50,283 --> 01:12:53,578
that it has impacted the fundamental
fairness of the proceedings.
1381
01:12:53,661 --> 01:12:56,956
It was literally a-- a movie,
it was so surreal.
1382
01:12:57,665 --> 01:13:00,418
Your motion to dismiss
with prejudice is granted.
1383
01:13:01,502 --> 01:13:04,505
-[crowd murmuring]
-[papers shuffling]
1384
01:13:05,715 --> 01:13:07,592
We are in recess.
1385
01:13:10,052 --> 01:13:13,431
[Devon] I was relievedto see that it was dismissed,
1386
01:13:13,514 --> 01:13:16,017
and I could see the relief on him,and just on a human level,
1387
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:19,520
like, what he's been carrying with this,and that he'll carry it forever.
1388
01:13:19,604 --> 01:13:21,355
[commentator] A dismissal with prejudice
1389
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,399
means that a prosecutioncan't bring back this case.
1390
01:13:23,482 --> 01:13:25,109
It's done. It's over.
1391
01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:28,487
Alec Baldwin is the equivalentof not guilty.
1392
01:13:31,449 --> 01:13:32,909
[reporter] Outside the courthouse,
1393
01:13:32,992 --> 01:13:36,370
the prosecutor askedif she let the Hutchins family down.
1394
01:13:36,454 --> 01:13:38,873
No, we didn't.
We did everything humanly possible
1395
01:13:38,956 --> 01:13:43,252
to bring justice, uh, to Halyna
and to her family,
1396
01:13:43,336 --> 01:13:45,171
and we're proud of the work that we did.
1397
01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:47,089
Uh, again, we disagree
with the court's decision,
1398
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:48,591
but we have to respect it.
1399
01:13:48,674 --> 01:13:51,636
-[reporters chattering]
-[reporter] Mr. Baldwin, anything to say?
1400
01:13:54,555 --> 01:13:56,557
[overlapping chatter]
1401
01:13:57,266 --> 01:13:59,477
[reporter] Mr. Baldwin, would you like
to say anything today?
1402
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,563
[reporters chattering]
1403
01:14:04,523 --> 01:14:06,525
[♪ solemn music playing]
1404
01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:11,989
Turn now to some bizarre
and surprising developments
1405
01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:14,533
in the production of Rust,
which announced today
1406
01:14:14,617 --> 01:14:17,161
that filming will restart this spring.
1407
01:14:17,244 --> 01:14:20,289
[♪ tense music playing]
1408
01:14:46,774 --> 01:14:49,735
[Thomas]
There's backlash that we're all getting,
1409
01:14:49,819 --> 01:14:51,862
you know, and a lot of people
wouldn't touch this project
1410
01:14:51,946 --> 01:14:53,698
with a 10-foot pole,
1411
01:14:53,781 --> 01:14:56,325
But those aren't-- those are people
that weren't involved, you know?
1412
01:14:56,409 --> 01:14:58,452
We're-- We're-- we lived it.
1413
01:15:02,331 --> 01:15:05,876
[Josh] They said, "Matt wants it done."And I said, "Look, I believe you.
1414
01:15:06,919 --> 01:15:10,715
But I'm not coming back for anything
unless I hear it from his mouth."
1415
01:15:11,966 --> 01:15:14,468
And they put me on a Zoom with him,
1416
01:15:14,552 --> 01:15:17,680
and he said he wanted it finished,
and-- and she would want it finished,
1417
01:15:17,763 --> 01:15:20,182
and people to see her work,
and, of course.
1418
01:15:20,266 --> 01:15:23,769
[♪ tense music playing]
1419
01:15:23,853 --> 01:15:25,730
[Olesia] I was completely angry,
1420
01:15:25,813 --> 01:15:29,400
and not understanding, like,how could this happen?
1421
01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:31,944
But then, I spoke to Halyna's mom,
1422
01:15:32,028 --> 01:15:35,656
and hearing her say
that she wants this movie to be done,
1423
01:15:35,740 --> 01:15:37,783
and she wants Halyna's work to be finished
1424
01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:42,329
and go out on the screens,
I felt like, you know what?
1425
01:15:42,413 --> 01:15:46,417
Like, we can't do anything for Halyna,
but we can do something for her mom.
1426
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:48,502
[wind chimes jingling]
1427
01:15:55,384 --> 01:15:57,386
-[gate rattles]
-[grunts]
1428
01:16:01,182 --> 01:16:05,478
I know that filming of the movie
Rust is resuming.
1429
01:16:05,895 --> 01:16:07,938
I wanted this to happen.
1430
01:16:08,022 --> 01:16:09,523
Maybe some people didn't want it.
1431
01:16:09,607 --> 01:16:13,569
But I wanted this to happen
because it was a big work of Halyna.
1432
01:16:14,612 --> 01:16:17,031
She wanted this movie to be finished.
1433
01:16:17,156 --> 01:16:21,994
I don't know why, but she really wanted
to finish this movie.
1434
01:16:25,915 --> 01:16:27,958
I also wanted this to happen for Andros.
1435
01:16:28,042 --> 01:16:30,336
I want him to be proud of his mother.
1436
01:16:31,128 --> 01:16:33,380
I will watch the movie.
1437
01:16:34,131 --> 01:16:35,216
Absolutely.
1438
01:16:36,175 --> 01:16:39,386
I want to see my daughter's work.
1439
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:41,097
It's her big work.
1440
01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:44,892
[birds chirping]
1441
01:16:46,227 --> 01:16:48,604
[footsteps crunching]
1442
01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:58,447
[panting] Okay. There.
1443
01:16:59,365 --> 01:17:02,284
Maybe we can move that mountain
over just a little bit?
1444
01:17:02,368 --> 01:17:03,911
-[group laughing]
-Hey, Dabney, can you go there?
1445
01:17:03,994 --> 01:17:05,746
-Does anybody?
-[crew] I got you guys, don't worry.
1446
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:07,581
Got that?
1447
01:17:07,665 --> 01:17:09,792
And I'd like 80% less snow.
1448
01:17:09,875 --> 01:17:10,876
[crew chuckles]
1449
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,670
[crew member]
I think that's what Halyna would say.
1450
01:17:14,672 --> 01:17:17,091
[Bianca] You know, I thinka lot of people don't understand
1451
01:17:17,174 --> 01:17:21,137
how important every film
is to a cinematographer.
1452
01:17:22,763 --> 01:17:24,723
And it's like, you put everything into it.
1453
01:17:24,807 --> 01:17:27,643
You put your soul into it, and it--
and you know,
1454
01:17:27,726 --> 01:17:32,439
so much time and effort, and you give
a piece of yourself to the film.
1455
01:17:32,523 --> 01:17:36,569
And no one gets to watch her film
1456
01:17:36,652 --> 01:17:40,156
unless somebody finishes it for her.
1457
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,950
[Joel] There's a potential world
where we can use this,
1458
01:17:43,033 --> 01:17:45,411
because that shot turns into...
1459
01:17:46,829 --> 01:17:49,582
this, and that we can't use.
1460
01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:53,252
She fought me on this one.
Like, she wanted it, I didn't.
1461
01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:55,588
I'm like, "We're running outta time."
1462
01:17:55,671 --> 01:17:58,257
And she's like, "What you have
isn't dynamic enough."
1463
01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:01,260
You have things that were more like that.
1464
01:18:01,343 --> 01:18:03,137
-Mm-hmm.
-And I'm like, "Well, we don't have time."
1465
01:18:03,220 --> 01:18:05,598
-She's like, "Well, make time."
-[both laughing]
1466
01:18:05,681 --> 01:18:08,100
-And so, we did, and now we have that.
-As the sun's going down.
1467
01:18:08,184 --> 01:18:10,060
[Joel] You can't see the other one
that we actually did
1468
01:18:10,144 --> 01:18:12,688
because I didn't use it,
because this is dynamic,
1469
01:18:12,771 --> 01:18:14,607
-and the other thing wasn't.
-[Bianca] Mm-hmm.
1470
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:15,900
[Joel] Yeah, it's interesting.
1471
01:18:15,983 --> 01:18:17,693
Okay, well...
1472
01:18:17,776 --> 01:18:20,404
-we'll have to copy it exactly.
-Yeah.
1473
01:18:20,487 --> 01:18:22,364
[Bianca] Every image she made
1474
01:18:22,448 --> 01:18:26,619
that ends up on the cutting room floor,
like, breaks my heart.
1475
01:18:28,537 --> 01:18:30,581
Matt gave me her notebooks
from the set, and I--
1476
01:18:30,664 --> 01:18:33,542
-Did you bring 'em?
-I did. Do you want 'em now?
1477
01:18:33,626 --> 01:18:35,377
-'Cause-- or later?
-Yeah.
1478
01:18:35,461 --> 01:18:37,546
-Okay, I'll bring 'em. Yeah.
-No, we're not doing anything else.
1479
01:18:37,630 --> 01:18:40,132
Okay, well, here.
1480
01:18:40,216 --> 01:18:41,967
[indistinct chatter in background]
1481
01:18:43,427 --> 01:18:46,055
-[Bianca] I could go through this forever.
-[Rachel] [chuckles] Yeah.
1482
01:18:46,138 --> 01:18:48,682
-[Bianca] This is really helpful actually.
-[Rachel] Oh, good.
1483
01:18:48,766 --> 01:18:51,518
She has, like, scene by scene,
like, what she's doing
1484
01:18:51,602 --> 01:18:54,271
and what the references are, and, like...
1485
01:18:54,355 --> 01:18:56,315
-[Rachel] Wow.
-[Bianca] It's really cool when it's like,
1486
01:18:56,398 --> 01:18:58,817
"Oh, that's--
that's exactly what I wanted to do."
1487
01:18:58,901 --> 01:19:01,987
[♪ contemplative music playing]
1488
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,369
[Joel] People who maybejust aren't creative don't understand
1489
01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:12,414
or could scoff at, at it feeling frivolousto finish a movie.
1490
01:19:12,915 --> 01:19:14,667
It's not.
1491
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:18,128
She devoted her life to-- to movies,to cinematography.
1492
01:19:18,212 --> 01:19:20,005
There's nothing frivolous about that.
1493
01:19:20,089 --> 01:19:22,299
You know, revealing truththrough art, I mean,
1494
01:19:22,383 --> 01:19:24,093
what's-- what's frivolous about that?
1495
01:19:26,971 --> 01:19:31,392
At first, like, accepting
this task of, you know,
1496
01:19:31,475 --> 01:19:34,353
finishing this film for her
would-- would maybe--
1497
01:19:34,436 --> 01:19:36,772
you know, there were a lot of doubts
in my mind of maybe it's not right,
1498
01:19:36,855 --> 01:19:39,149
maybe it'll be terrible
and I'll feel bad, and maybe it--
1499
01:19:39,233 --> 01:19:41,151
you know, I can't do a good enough job.
1500
01:19:41,235 --> 01:19:47,491
But I feel like I wouldn't
ra-- rather be anywhere else.
1501
01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:50,577
[♪ contemplative music playing]
1502
01:19:50,661 --> 01:19:52,663
[crew chattering]
1503
01:19:55,291 --> 01:19:57,084
Stay there and wide.
1504
01:19:57,167 --> 01:19:59,211
These were-- we got the same setup...
1505
01:20:00,421 --> 01:20:03,424
[♪ contemplative music continues]
1506
01:20:07,886 --> 01:20:09,596
[crew chattering]
1507
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,056
[Joel] Guys, here we go!
1508
01:20:12,766 --> 01:20:14,018
[crew member] B speed.
1509
01:20:14,101 --> 01:20:16,186
[Joel] And background action. Action.
1510
01:20:16,270 --> 01:20:19,064
[Devon] Coming back,picking up where we left off,
1511
01:20:19,148 --> 01:20:21,775
reshooting some things,
being back in this wardrobe
1512
01:20:21,859 --> 01:20:24,570
that, like, I was in with her,
1513
01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:28,782
it felt like being alone
in like a sea of people.
1514
01:20:28,866 --> 01:20:31,952
I guess that's how, uh,
trauma and grief goes, you know?
1515
01:20:35,205 --> 01:20:36,707
[Frances] This is my first day back,
1516
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:41,670
and it's a little emotional, you know,to see some of the crew from before,
1517
01:20:41,754 --> 01:20:45,132
and holding everything inside,
because I don't wanna burst into tears.
1518
01:20:45,215 --> 01:20:47,468
Here, bring this, sit down over here...
1519
01:20:47,551 --> 01:20:51,638
[Josh] I'm glad there's a differentending for the experience.
1520
01:20:53,307 --> 01:20:57,770
But, uh, this experience
will never be over
1521
01:20:57,853 --> 01:21:00,022
for anyone associated with it.
1522
01:21:00,105 --> 01:21:02,024
Even bother robbin' him no more?
1523
01:21:02,107 --> 01:21:03,942
[Joel] That is great. Great...
[indistinct]
1524
01:21:04,026 --> 01:21:06,111
[guns popping]
1525
01:21:09,907 --> 01:21:14,328
It's something that will stick
with you forever, for sure.
1526
01:21:14,411 --> 01:21:15,954
[Thomas] It's been almost two years.
1527
01:21:16,038 --> 01:21:17,790
This is the first time
we've talked about it.
1528
01:21:17,873 --> 01:21:21,001
First time I've heard my son
talk about it.
1529
01:21:21,085 --> 01:21:23,003
Never has ever said a word.
1530
01:21:24,004 --> 01:21:27,341
It's just more sense of real loss.
1531
01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:29,134
[actor] I start walking?
1532
01:21:29,218 --> 01:21:32,262
[Terese] It's hard to see some--all the costumes,
1533
01:21:32,346 --> 01:21:34,765
and have her not here.
1534
01:21:34,848 --> 01:21:37,351
But I'm really glad that we're finishing.
It felt so...
1535
01:21:37,434 --> 01:21:39,395
[breathes deeply] ...incomplete.
1536
01:21:41,355 --> 01:21:44,233
[Terese sobbing]
1537
01:21:44,316 --> 01:21:47,319
[people chattering]
1538
01:21:50,864 --> 01:21:52,825
Rubber gun going in the holster.
1539
01:21:53,951 --> 01:21:55,869
-[Frances] Can I see that rubber gun?
-You betcha.
1540
01:21:55,953 --> 01:21:58,038
[Frances] Wow.
1541
01:21:58,122 --> 01:22:03,001
[Joel] I can never be around a weaponthat'll fire again, in any circumstance.
1542
01:22:03,085 --> 01:22:05,045
I just-- I can't be around it.
1543
01:22:05,129 --> 01:22:07,423
I don't want anything to do with it.I can't be near it.
1544
01:22:07,506 --> 01:22:10,634
There will be nothing that, uh, is capable
1545
01:22:10,717 --> 01:22:13,804
of any kind of discharge
in any way, shape, or form.
1546
01:22:13,887 --> 01:22:15,931
I mean, you might as well
be holding a paperweight.
1547
01:22:16,849 --> 01:22:18,851
You start to become hyper aware
1548
01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:21,854
of just how careful everyone has to be.
1549
01:22:21,937 --> 01:22:26,108
There's always gonna be a riskbecause of the human factor.
1550
01:22:26,191 --> 01:22:29,361
But it's just about, uh,
everyone being conscious,
1551
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:32,364
and everyone being aware,
and everyone being vigilant.
1552
01:22:32,448 --> 01:22:34,450
[crew chattering]
1553
01:22:36,034 --> 01:22:37,828
[Joel] Andy, where are you?
1554
01:22:37,911 --> 01:22:39,288
-[Andy] Right here.
-[Joel] There you are.
1555
01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:40,622
Anything you want to add to that?
1556
01:22:40,706 --> 01:22:42,291
Yeah, I'm Andy the armorer,
1557
01:22:42,374 --> 01:22:45,669
and we also have
our two safety specialists here.
1558
01:22:45,752 --> 01:22:48,213
I'll make sure that you feel good,
you feel safe,
1559
01:22:48,297 --> 01:22:50,007
and you feel comfortable, okay?
1560
01:22:52,134 --> 01:22:55,554
When I first heard about Halyna,
[exhales] I was beside myself.
1561
01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:59,475
I mean, my-- my heart sank.
I-- I felt terrible.
1562
01:22:59,558 --> 01:23:01,435
Dry firing heavy replica.
1563
01:23:02,311 --> 01:23:03,645
[Andy] It never should have happened.
1564
01:23:03,729 --> 01:23:04,771
-One.
-Never.
1565
01:23:04,855 --> 01:23:06,565
Empty heavy replica.
1566
01:23:06,648 --> 01:23:08,275
This the one you're gonna use.
1567
01:23:08,358 --> 01:23:10,694
When I got the call, I thought, you know,
1568
01:23:10,777 --> 01:23:12,571
somebody has to do this,
1569
01:23:12,654 --> 01:23:15,032
and it-- it's-- it should,
you know, might as well be me.
1570
01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:18,243
Okay, guys. Dry firing.
1571
01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:21,163
[gun clicking]
1572
01:23:21,246 --> 01:23:24,124
And two more. Okay. There you go, sir.
1573
01:23:24,208 --> 01:23:25,667
-Ten outta six ain't bad.
-Not bad.
1574
01:23:25,751 --> 01:23:26,752
It's okay like that...
1575
01:23:26,835 --> 01:23:28,253
You know, whenever you're on a film set,
1576
01:23:28,337 --> 01:23:31,006
they're all treated as real weapons.
1577
01:23:31,089 --> 01:23:34,301
That way, everybody hasa heightened sense of safety.
1578
01:23:35,969 --> 01:23:37,679
I wanted to do it because of Halyna,
1579
01:23:37,763 --> 01:23:40,849
so that this show gets done safely,so everybody's comfortable.
1580
01:23:40,933 --> 01:23:43,101
That's what the goal is, and...
1581
01:23:43,185 --> 01:23:44,770
[patting] everybody goes home.
1582
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:47,648
♪♪
1583
01:23:49,483 --> 01:23:52,319
[indistinct chatter and laughter]
1584
01:23:54,321 --> 01:23:56,323
[wind whipping]
1585
01:23:59,201 --> 01:24:00,202
[sighs]
1586
01:24:00,369 --> 01:24:01,370
Beautiful.
1587
01:24:10,504 --> 01:24:12,798
[Rachel] Everyone who knew Halyna
1588
01:24:12,881 --> 01:24:15,425
was crushed by her death.
1589
01:24:15,509 --> 01:24:19,346
and that includes the peoplewho worked on her last film, Rust.
1590
01:24:20,556 --> 01:24:23,809
After being hereand seeing what they went through,
1591
01:24:23,892 --> 01:24:25,644
it became so clear to me they were just
1592
01:24:25,727 --> 01:24:28,897
trying to finish it to honor her.
1593
01:24:29,523 --> 01:24:31,567
[engine rumbling]
1594
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:36,321
[Joel] Go fast.
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
1595
01:24:36,405 --> 01:24:38,615
Okay, good. Good, good,
good, good, good, good, good.
1596
01:24:38,699 --> 01:24:41,702
Stay this, stay here. Stay here.
Perfect, perfect. Perfect, perfect.
1597
01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:43,036
Okay.
1598
01:24:43,954 --> 01:24:46,248
-That's a cut.
-[Bianca] Cut! Woo!
1599
01:24:46,331 --> 01:24:47,749
[crew member] That is a wrap.
1600
01:24:47,833 --> 01:24:49,710
-[cheering and applause]
-A picture wrap...
1601
01:24:49,793 --> 01:24:52,296
for Patrick and all of us. Thank you.
1602
01:24:52,379 --> 01:24:54,298
-[cheering and applause continues]
-Thank you, everyone.
1603
01:24:54,381 --> 01:24:56,008
Great work. Great work.
1604
01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:58,135
-Thank you.
-[applause]
1605
01:24:58,218 --> 01:25:03,098
Finishing this movie feels like some step
1606
01:25:03,181 --> 01:25:06,685
towards, I don't know. Healing, I hope.
1607
01:25:06,768 --> 01:25:09,062
[crew chattering]
1608
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,815
[photographer] Everybody! One, two, three.
1609
01:25:11,898 --> 01:25:13,609
[all cheering]
1610
01:25:13,692 --> 01:25:15,986
-[camera clicks]
-[cheering fades out]
1611
01:25:18,113 --> 01:25:21,325
[Josh] They're preservingevery shot they can of hers.
1612
01:25:21,408 --> 01:25:22,618
And it's so beautiful.
1613
01:25:22,701 --> 01:25:25,996
[♪ contemplative music playing]
1614
01:25:30,292 --> 01:25:33,962
[Dave] She had a specific lookthat she was looking for on Rust.
1615
01:25:34,046 --> 01:25:36,214
She wanted the stark contrast.
1616
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:41,053
A lot of sharp, a lot of light and dark.
1617
01:25:43,013 --> 01:25:46,516
[Halyna] I like, uh, stories that rootedin reality or real characters,
1618
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,062
but my favorite, uh, partis actually creating, uh, the world
1619
01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:52,189
where the story will exist.
1620
01:25:52,272 --> 01:25:55,275
Genre doesn't really matter,it's just the environment
1621
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:58,403
you create around itto convey the character's journey.
1622
01:25:58,487 --> 01:26:01,490
[♪ contemplative music playing]
1623
01:26:03,241 --> 01:26:05,577
If I like the charactersand I like the-- the conflict
1624
01:26:05,661 --> 01:26:07,746
and the story itself--
if I wanna see this movie,
1625
01:26:07,829 --> 01:26:09,373
I would like to make it.
1626
01:26:12,209 --> 01:26:14,211
[people chattering]
1627
01:26:20,467 --> 01:26:22,344
[announcer] Ladies and gentlemen,thank you for coming
1628
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:26,348
to this remarkable screening.It's a very special screening.
1629
01:26:26,431 --> 01:26:28,433
We organized this screening
1630
01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:31,019
because that was a dream
of Halyna Hutchins.
1631
01:26:31,103 --> 01:26:34,064
Halyna wanted to screen this film
1632
01:26:34,147 --> 01:26:35,899
at EnergaCAMERIMAGE Festival
1633
01:26:35,982 --> 01:26:38,694
where so many of her friendsgather every year.
1634
01:26:38,777 --> 01:26:41,279
-Oh, hey! Wow, everyone's already here.
-Yeah.
1635
01:26:41,363 --> 01:26:43,907
[Joel]
You know, it's been a long few years.
1636
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:47,744
You know, it's gonna be seen soon,
and, uh, it's all outta my hands now.
1637
01:26:47,828 --> 01:26:51,456
[♪ soft piano music playing]
1638
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:55,085
I've probably spent too much timein movie theaters in my life.
1639
01:26:55,168 --> 01:26:59,005
You expect the third act momentof clarity,
1640
01:26:59,089 --> 01:27:03,260
or for things to make sense,
or closure, or catharsis,
1641
01:27:03,343 --> 01:27:05,846
and they don't come. They just don't.
1642
01:27:05,929 --> 01:27:08,014
It's not the way life works.
Life is not a movie.
1643
01:27:08,098 --> 01:27:11,101
[♪ soft piano music continues]
1644
01:27:11,184 --> 01:27:14,980
I'd like, at some point,to have some sort of grand moment
1645
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:19,776
where everything about what happened,there's some kind of understanding of it.
1646
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:20,944
I don't know.
1647
01:27:21,027 --> 01:27:23,238
You know, hope springs eternal,
I guess, we'll see.
1648
01:27:23,739 --> 01:27:27,534
I want to thank you all for coming
to come and celebrate my friend,
1649
01:27:27,617 --> 01:27:30,537
and to celebrate her art and her talent.
1650
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:32,664
The movie itselfis this weird little thing
1651
01:27:32,748 --> 01:27:34,875
just kinda sitting in the middleof all this discourse.
1652
01:27:34,958 --> 01:27:38,420
And what I really want is,
1653
01:27:38,503 --> 01:27:41,173
that there's just a couple of hours
1654
01:27:41,256 --> 01:27:44,593
where, like, that kinda quiets down
and goes away.
1655
01:27:45,594 --> 01:27:48,013
Let's take a breath and watch this movie,watch her work,
1656
01:27:48,096 --> 01:27:50,891
appreciate her work, appreciate whoshe was, how she saw the world.
1657
01:27:50,974 --> 01:27:53,143
You get to see it up on screen,how she saw the world.
1658
01:27:53,226 --> 01:27:54,436
That's pretty amazing.
1659
01:27:57,189 --> 01:28:01,443
Cinematography is something that
you don't do by yourself.
1660
01:28:02,152 --> 01:28:06,490
A film shoot is too complicated
to be handled by one person.
1661
01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:09,951
There's no individual authorship.
1662
01:28:10,452 --> 01:28:12,704
Only a group product.
1663
01:28:14,164 --> 01:28:16,750
But the key to a successful film is
1664
01:28:16,833 --> 01:28:18,460
communication with your director,
1665
01:28:18,543 --> 01:28:20,086
and your team.
1666
01:28:31,223 --> 01:28:34,226
[♪ gentle music playing]
1667
01:29:08,051 --> 01:29:11,054
[♪ "Hold You Up" by Rachel Mason playing]
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♪ I'm gonna hold you up ♪
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♪ Far beyond the sky ♪
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♪ Where angels float, oh, oh ♪
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♪ I'm gonna pull you in ♪
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♪ To a place whereyour light's still travelin' ♪
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♪ What a gift to let you go ♪
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♪ Oh, oh ♪
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♪♪
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♪ And when the night is cold ♪
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♪ And silence reappears ♪
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♪ Like melted snow ♪
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♪ Oh, oh ♪
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♪ I'm gonna pull you in ♪
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♪ To the place wherethe stars are gatherin' ♪
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♪ In the wind they let you go ♪
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♪ Oh, oh... ♪
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[chalk scribbling]
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♪♪
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