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[Newsreel]: Well, this is the man
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who, in the next 24 hours,
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may becomePresident of the United States,
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and she, First Lady of the land.
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[JFK]: So now,
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my wife and I prepare
for a new administration
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and for a new baby.
Thank you.
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Ask not what your country
can do for you.
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Ask what you
can do for your country.
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Every degree of mind and spirit that I possess
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will be devoted
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to the long-range interests of the United States
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and to the cause of freedom around the world.
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[Sam Pate]: Just a moment, please.
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Something has happened in the motorcade route.
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Stand by, please.
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Parkland Hospital... there has been a shooting.
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Parkland Hospital has been advised to stand by
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for a severe gunshot wound.
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The flash, apparently official,
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President Kennedy died
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at 1:00 p.m.
Central Standard Time.
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[Bill Hampton]: The president of the United States is dead.
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I have just talked to Father Oscar Huber
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of the Holy Trinity Catholic Church.
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He and another priest tell me that the pair of men
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have just administered
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the last rites of the Catholic Church
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to President Kennedy.
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President Kennedy has been assassinated.
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It's official now. The president is dead.
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[Newsreel]: As the casket is returned to the caisson,
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there comes a family vignette that must take its place
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with those memories we hold warm and dear,
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a gentle reminder from his mother,
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and John John celebrates his third birthday
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with a soldier's farewell to his father.
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It's easy for someone to say,
"Well, I'm going to be me."
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Well, that's easy
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when nobody gives a damn
who you are,
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but when somebody
has definite ideas about you,
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superlative ones,
in John's case...
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"You'll be the greatest.
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You are the most handsome.
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You are royalty.
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You are bound and destined
for greatness.
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Do nothing normal.
Do nothing pedestrian.
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You are better than that
and everyone."
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That's not easy
to have on your shoulders.
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He's the only person
we've ever seen
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have that kind of greatness
put upon him.
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In our culture,
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where we don't recognize
royalty,
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he was the closest thing
we had to a crown prince.
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He was the heir,
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the heir to the promise
and to the challenge,
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"Don't ask what your country
can do for you.
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Ask what you can do
for your country."
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That salute of John Jr.
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is the first extraordinary
celebrity moment
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in John Jr.'s life.
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From that moment on,
his life was different.
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From the very beginning,
you know, that little salute,
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he was under scrutiny
and pressure.
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I think
John F. Kennedy Jr.'s salute
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is a defining moment
in the American public,
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in their psyche,
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that we're going to see more
from this kid.
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[Larry King]: Is it
tough being a junior?
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I don't have a basis
of comparison, so...
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I mean, are there
ever days you say,
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"I wish my name
were David"?
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No, I'm pretty happy
with what it is.
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It's complicated,
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and it makes
for a rich and complicated life,
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but that's, I think,
part of the puzzle
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to figure out in my life.
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For me, it wasn't meeting
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the little boy
saluting the casket.
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I think for my mother,
it would have been that.
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For me, it was like, I mean,
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he's, like,
a hot New York bachelor.
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The first time I met him,
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I was working out in my gym
in Tribeca,
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and a mutual friend
had brought him up there
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while I was working out,
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and so I was on the bike,
and we shook hands.
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I was just fortunate enough
to meet him and engage with him
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and go on just a minute
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of a cosmic-dust journey
with him,
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and it was pretty awesome.
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You know,
his tentacles, his love,
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it reaches out from the grave.
It's still here now.
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A Native American said
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that when somebody
takes your picture,
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you lose
a piece of your soul.
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How he retained his soul
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after hundreds of thousands
of pictures
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is one
of his greatest accomplishments.
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He had a brilliant capacity
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for getting people
to quit looking
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at the balloon of himself
that he was towing overhead,
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the sort of Macy's
Thanksgiving Day parade-sized
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John F. Kennedy Jr.
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to the guy
that was standing there
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who was remarkable
in his own way
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but was, you know,
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put his pants on
one leg at a time.
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You know, one of the things
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that John tried to do
throughout his life
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was be his own man
and go his own path.
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He obviously had
the whole specter
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of his presidential father
and his very famous mother
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and a family
that was known for politics,
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but, you know,
John was very much his own man.
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He marched to his own beat.
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Like many sons
of famous fathers,
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there's a legacy.
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There's sort of
a big mountain to climb.
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So I think he felt like he had
to do something significant.
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I mean, he couldn't just
get a job.
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[Barlow]: His being
part of the Kennedy legacy,
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the really important thing
to know about John
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in that regard
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was that he was not a Kennedy.
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He was a Bouvier.
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His mother was the guiding,
shaping force in his life,
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and he looked
very much like her,
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but he was also
very much a Kennedy,
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very devoted to his family,
to the name,
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to the history,
very, very much so.
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He couldn't separate himself
from that legacy,
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and nor would he want to.
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The process of separation
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becomes a problem
for a presidential child.
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Their greatest single challenge
is to find a separate identity.
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Who am I?
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He called me up one night,
and he said,
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"I've been thinking a lot
about great men,
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and it occurs to me
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that it would be
kind of a cakewalk
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for me to become a great man.
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I mean, everybody expects me
to be a great man.
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I'm perfectly positioned.
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You know, if I don't f*** up
in some major way,
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I can just do it,"
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and he said, "But I've been
reading a lot of biographies
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of great men
all the way through history,
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and I'm realizing
that not one of them
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seems to have been
a good guy at home.
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I mean,
even Gandhi beat his family,
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and, you know,
and my father was no model,
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and I wonder
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if it wouldn't be a much more
interesting challenge
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in my position
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to set out at this point
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and see if I couldn't
make myself a good man."
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And that was really
paramount to him.
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He wanted to be good
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in his relationship
with his wife.
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That was really important.
He wanted it to work.
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He wanted to be good in his
relationship with his sister,
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who was very important to him.
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No schadenfreude at all.
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He wanted
his friends to succeed,
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so I think
John Perry Barlow's comment
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about him wanting to be good
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is really important
in understanding who John was.
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I also knew that pressures
were about to enter his life
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in increasing force
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that would make
sticking with that principle
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an extremely hard thing
to pull off
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because everybody in the world
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was going to be tugging
at his sleeve.
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People were going
to treat him like a thing.
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They already were.
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It's difficult
to maintain your goodness
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if you're being treated
like a thing.
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If you were
to have a son,
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would you encourage
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a political
career for him?
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I would, definitely.
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I would hope
he would grow up to be,
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if not a politician
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in the sense
of devoting all of his time,
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I would hope
that whatever he did do,
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that he would have some sense
of responsibility
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for what went on.
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Over a quarter century ago,
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my father stood before you
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to accept the nomination
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for the presidency
of the United States.
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[cheering]
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In 1988, John introduced
his uncle Teddy Kennedy
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to the Democratic
National Convention.
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The place went wild.
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[cheering]
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Thank you.
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There's a huge gravitational
pull towards politics
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because that's kind of
what he...
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I mean, he was just
such a natural at it.
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John was smart enough
to know "I'm Junior.
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I'm not John F. Kennedy.
I'm not my father."
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He did this counter-culture.
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He didn't want to be
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what everyone thought
he should be or become,
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and I thought
that took a lot of balls.
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Having people on him,
fawn over him,
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since he was a little baby,
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especially after
what had happened,
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so I liked
that reserved thing about him.
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Easy to relate to.
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John really, for me,
represented someone
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who had every right
to be a cynic
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and decided to be a romantic.
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Obviously, John, to everybody,
was a very charismatic person,
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because of his name,
because of his family,
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but also because of him.
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He had this very attractive
personality,
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part humble, part irreverent,
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very handsome, very energetic,
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and people projected
all their hopes and dreams
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on this son of this family.
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You never thought of
running for office?
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That had to have
come up
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in some discussion
somewhere.
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No, I mean,
I've certainly thought about it,
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but I think that, you know,
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there is this great weight
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of expectation and anticipation,
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and I think
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that part of you wants
to sort of address that
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in some way
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and maybe do
something different,
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and maybe, but just
to sort of engage it.
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Most people get into politics
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for one of or a combination
of three reasons.
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It's for money,
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it's for power,
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or it's for fame.
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John had all three
the day he was born.
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In Georgetown,
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a hopeful crowd
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waits for a glimpseof John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr.,
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first baby to be,
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who is whisked by,
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heavily swaddled against the sub-freezing weather.
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One of the reasons
Americans loved the Kennedys
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was because we didn't have
this grandfather Eisenhower
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in the White House any longer.
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We had this young family.
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We had this beautiful
young wife and mother.
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We had Caroline,
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and, especially,
we had John Jr.
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We had this exciting,
irascible little boy
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running through the White House.
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Jackie Kennedy
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is an extraordinary figure
in this story
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because she's very bright.
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People think of her as young,
and so young as First Lady,
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that it hardly registers
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that she was
a very bright young lady,
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and she had done studies
about presidential children.
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She was a bit of an expert
before her time
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on presidential children.
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In fact, when the Clintons
were elected president,
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one of the first things they did
was brought in Jackie Kennedy
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and ask her advice.
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[Leamer]:
His mother understood
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the wages of celebrity,
what celebrity does to you.
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President Kennedy saw
the advantages of celebrity...
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[speaking Spanish]
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[cheering]
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Seeing the advantages
of his beautiful wife,
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what that brought to him
politically,
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and he saw
the advantages of his children.
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We have those great photos
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of the kids scampering around
the Oval Office.
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That was the president, who knew
that "Jackie's not here,"
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and said to his secretary,
"Go get the kids."
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So they brought them
from the mansion
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over to the West Wing
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and had them scamper around
the Oval Office,
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and we have
those delightful pictures today.
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They never would have happened
on Jacqueline Kennedy's watch.
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Instantly,
John Jr. becomes a star.
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He becomes
part of the national fabric
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of our lives.
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Here was this kid
who was sort of America's kid...
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really, a part of royalty
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in a country
that doesn't have royalty.
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[Andersen]: If you called John's
name in the White House,
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as Jack often did, summoned him,
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he didn't come right away,
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so often what you'd hear echoing
down the White House halls
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was "John? John? John? John?"
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If you wanted
to get under his skin,
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you'd say, "Listen, John John,"
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and, you know,
that would be the "argh."
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[Chermayeff]: He had a really,
really nice relationship
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with his mom and his sister.
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You know, I mean, his mother
was incredibly gracious,
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but, as John said,
she ran a tight ship.
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It was a little...
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It looked a little more
free-flowing, you know,
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but she was actually
very together,
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and John was the kind of kid
that needed a lot of assistance
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getting his stuff together
for a long time,
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and probably really irritating
in a lot of ways.
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[Barlow]:
He was an amazing character.
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He could remember
not only everybody's name,
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but everybody's dog's name,
you know.
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He had a natural talent
for being graceful.
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He had absolutely
the best teacher in the world
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in his mother,
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and she passed that on
seamlessly to him.
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[Chermayeff]: They adored
each other, all of them,
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Caroline and John
and their mother.
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I mean,
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
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still is, like...
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in the top five style icons
that I can think of.
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I mean, she's referenced
constantly in fashion.
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The media may overdo
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how perfectly classy
and perfect she was,
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but she was classy.
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She was.
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She did dress
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in a tailored, appropriate,
sophisticated manner.
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Jackie Kennedy,
to anybody from the outside,
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was this larger-than-life,
iconic figure,
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made so particularly,
obviously,
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because of what
she so publicly went through.
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The globalized grief and tragedy
of the Kennedy assassination
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and the fact
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that this young, beautiful
widow and mother was left...
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Everyone in the world
admired Jackie Kennedy.
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Everybody imitated her.
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Everybody felt her pain
and her sadness after 1963,
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and everybody
watched those children
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as if they were their children.
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This is a little boy, you know,
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born on Thanksgiving Day.
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You know, his father
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had been elected President
of the United States.
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He barely knew his own father.
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He lost him in the most violent
and unacceptable of ways.
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For the five years
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after Jack Kennedy's
assassination,
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Bobby Kennedy really functioned
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as the father
to John and Caroline.
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When Bobby was gunned down
in 1968,
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in a sense, John and Caroline
lost their father a second time.
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Jackie was devastated.
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[Andersen]: She said,
"They're killing Kennedys,
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and my children
are the number-one target,
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and I'm basically out of here."
358
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And she married
Aristotle Onassis.
359
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Aristotle Onassis
was not only fabulously wealthy,
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but he also had
a 75-man security force.
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It was a kind of a charmed life,
in a sense,
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but, sadly,
it didn't last for long.
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Onassis died
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six weeks after entering
the American hospital here
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just outside of Paris.
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John's life, as we all know,
was a very complicated life.
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His mother
kept him and his sister
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sort of away from
a lot of the world, you know,
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and a lot of it
was driven by security concerns.
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You know, in the beginning,
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he really
kind of needed a father
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that wasn't
a Secret Service agent.
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[Andersen]: In search
of a strong male figure,
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Jackie had heard of a fellow
named John Perry Barlow,
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who was a kind of a free spirit
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who wrote songs
for the Grateful Dead
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and owned a ranch in Wyoming.
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[Barlow chuckles]
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It was fairly late
in the evening.
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I was sitting
at the galactic headquarters
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of the Bar Cross
Land and Livestock Company
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in Cora, Wyoming.
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I get this breathy voice
on the phone
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that says, "Hi,
this is Jacqueline Onassis,"
385
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and I said, "Well,
in the highly unlikely event
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that this isn't
some kind of a joke,
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what can I do for you?"
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Two days later,
he was on the ranch.
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00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:31,943
He always talked about Barlow.
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00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:33,211
You know,
"Barlow this, Barlow that."
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He was sort of this legendary
figure in John's life.
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[♪♪♪]
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[Wiese]: You know, when John
enrolled at Brown University,
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it was, you know,
pretty big news.
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Brown didn't have
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a Kennedy school
of this or that,
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or a Kennedy library,
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00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,300
and I think he probably liked
a little of that anonymity.
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00:18:58,104 --> 00:18:59,704
You know, you'd walk
around a football game
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with, you know, a sign saying,
you know,
401
00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:04,709
"Party after the game
at Phi Psi,"
402
00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:09,480
and when John joined the frat,
it went from advertising
403
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,383
to restricting people
from coming in.
404
00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:14,418
You know, we started
getting lines out the door.
405
00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:15,720
At a certain level,
406
00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:17,421
as much
as I could relate to John,
407
00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:18,923
there's very few people
on this earth
408
00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:20,291
who could relate
409
00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:21,826
to how he grew up
410
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and what was normal to him.
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00:19:24,097 --> 00:19:26,130
He had been
at a Rolling Stones concert,
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00:19:26,132 --> 00:19:27,765
and he might have even had,
you know,
413
00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:29,233
Keith Richards' guitar.
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00:19:29,235 --> 00:19:30,835
I thought, you know,
"Let's face it.
415
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Most college students,
416
00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,171
they just sort of connive
417
00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:34,438
their way into a concert.
418
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,773
You know, most people
419
00:19:35,775 --> 00:19:37,909
aren't going to be backstage
with the Stones."
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00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:40,278
One night, you know,
he took me out reveling
421
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,280
with Hunter S. Thompson.
422
00:19:42,282 --> 00:19:43,514
Can you imagine?
423
00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:46,317
With John Kennedy,
Hunter S. Thompson,
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00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,352
and I'm in this fabulous bar,
425
00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:51,289
but I knew
that this was special,
426
00:19:51,291 --> 00:19:53,124
and maybe John
would go on to something else.
427
00:19:53,126 --> 00:19:55,326
So I said to him, "So, John,
428
00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:57,228
do you want to be president
one day?"
429
00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,629
and he said, "Shut up, Kissy."
430
00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:03,701
He just didn't entertain us
going into that area.
431
00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:05,236
[Andersen]:
You know, Jackie also felt
432
00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:08,206
that he had a destiny
to fulfill,
433
00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:09,607
and part of that destiny
434
00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,475
would involve
his going to law school.
435
00:20:11,477 --> 00:20:13,177
John F. Kennedy's
going to find out soon
436
00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:15,613
if all that cramming he did
has paid off.
437
00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:18,983
He began taking
his New York bar exams
438
00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:21,552
The son of the late president
will have to pass this time
439
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,322
if he wants to hold
onto his $30,000-a-year job
440
00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:25,523
as an assistant D.A.
441
00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:27,358
I think
when I was running for Congress,
442
00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,161
and one time I got
bad press on something,
443
00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:31,596
and he sort of laughed at me
and he said,
444
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:33,130
"You have no idea
what bad press is
445
00:20:33,132 --> 00:20:36,334
until you're on the front page
of the New York Post ."
446
00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:40,838
Slow news day, I guess, huh?
447
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,007
John, a lot of people
waiting for you here.
448
00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:44,208
How do you
feel about...
449
00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:45,276
Is it true that
you passed the bar?
450
00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,644
Uh, apparently it's true.
451
00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:48,679
I got the official word
not long ago, so it's true.
452
00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:49,814
What do you mean,
"not long ago?"
453
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:50,815
Just a few
minutes ago?
454
00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:51,682
I got the word.
455
00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:52,650
That's really
all that's important.
456
00:20:52,652 --> 00:20:54,118
What many people don't know
457
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,088
is that John
had a reading disability,
458
00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:58,022
and you're supposed
to get more time
459
00:20:58,024 --> 00:20:59,590
on the bar exam.
460
00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:02,226
He wouldn't take more time
on the bar exam
461
00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,327
because he thought
people would think
462
00:21:03,329 --> 00:21:05,930
that he was getting
special favor,
463
00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,065
and that was a mistake for him,
464
00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:09,400
but that was
part of being John.
465
00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:11,435
I'm looking forward
to doing some good things here,
466
00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:12,570
and I'm glad it's behind me.
467
00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:13,571
Are you going
to stay here
468
00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:14,572
in the D.A.'s
office?
469
00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,674
Sure.
Absolutely.
470
00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,109
What kind of cases are
you looking forward to?
471
00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:19,343
Whatever they give me.
472
00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:20,511
[Coulter]:
I think it's sort of unfair,
473
00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:23,214
the business about him
failing the New York bar exam.
474
00:21:23,216 --> 00:21:25,349
For one thing,
Hillary Clinton failed it,
475
00:21:25,351 --> 00:21:27,251
and all I hear about
is how brilliant she is,
476
00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:28,452
but, moreover,
477
00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,888
the bar exam is something
you do have to study for.
478
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:32,223
It isn't an IQ test.
479
00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:33,491
It's learning
specific knowledge,
480
00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:34,492
and here he is, you know,
481
00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:35,526
the sexiest man
in the universe,
482
00:21:35,528 --> 00:21:38,095
according to People magazine.
483
00:21:38,097 --> 00:21:39,563
He's young, he's single.
484
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,265
How much studying was he doing?
485
00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,000
You can imagine, among friends,
486
00:21:43,002 --> 00:21:45,469
some of the ribbing
he would have, you know, got.
487
00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,872
It was like, "John,
does that mean sexiest ever?"
488
00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,107
I mean, we used to tease him.
"Qualify for it."
489
00:21:50,109 --> 00:21:51,409
It turned out
to be a really great way
490
00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:54,245
to take the piss out of him.
[laughs]
491
00:21:54,247 --> 00:21:57,081
"Oh, do I have the sexiest man
in the galaxy on the phone?"
492
00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,916
[chuckles]
493
00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,251
[Cuomo]: Did he like
to have his shirt off a lot?
494
00:22:00,253 --> 00:22:01,385
Yeah, sure, he did.
495
00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:03,654
I would too,
if I looked like that guy.
496
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,289
Of course,
it's easy to deal with women
497
00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:09,293
when you are People magazine's
sexiest human in the universe.
498
00:22:09,295 --> 00:22:11,529
[laughs]
499
00:22:11,531 --> 00:22:12,897
Just smile.
We'll do whatever you want.
500
00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:15,599
[laughs]
501
00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:17,168
He certainly
was a hand with the ladies.
502
00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:18,202
[laughs]
503
00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,904
No question about that.
504
00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,605
[Chermayeff]: None of those
were very serious.
505
00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:24,642
They made a lot
out of that stuff, you know.
506
00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:26,811
Sarah Jessica Parker and John
507
00:22:26,813 --> 00:22:29,280
had, you know, no relationship,
really,
508
00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:30,581
not really,
509
00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:32,149
and Madonna, not really.
510
00:22:32,151 --> 00:22:34,852
Like, maybe one night.
Sorry.
511
00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:36,787
Who knows, maybe more.
What do I know?
512
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:41,759
John really was
a serial monogamist,
513
00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:43,928
in spite of the fact
that it was very difficult
514
00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:47,498
for his girlfriends
to believe that,
515
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,301
because he was under
a continuous barrage
516
00:22:50,303 --> 00:22:51,369
of other opportunities.
517
00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:53,170
The actress Daryl Hannah,
the star of...
518
00:22:53,172 --> 00:22:56,240
At that time, she was best-known
for the movie Splash ,
519
00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:58,342
but she was in John's circle
520
00:22:58,344 --> 00:22:59,610
because she came
521
00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:02,413
from a very wealthy family
of Democratic donors,
522
00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:03,948
but in 1988,
the same year
523
00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:04,982
that he was on the cover
524
00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:07,718
of the People M agazine's
"The Sexiest Man Alive,"
525
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,353
they began a relationship,
526
00:23:09,355 --> 00:23:10,688
and this
was a serious relationship
527
00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:12,556
that lasted five years.
528
00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:16,060
They are the fun couple of '93,
a paparazzi's dream.
529
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:19,463
John F. Kennedy Jr.
and actress Daryl Hannah
530
00:23:19,465 --> 00:23:21,332
are traveling the world
these days.
531
00:23:21,334 --> 00:23:23,033
I know that,
while they were together,
532
00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:27,071
you know, John had
a lot of concern for her,
533
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:29,840
that she understood
celebrity and attention
534
00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:33,344
in a way that, you know,
other women could not.
535
00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:35,246
This is the JFK
special spotter version.
536
00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:36,714
You probably can get him
537
00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:38,949
at the length of two football
fields easily with this.
538
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:42,686
I never have seen anyone
get reactions the way he did.
539
00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:45,322
Not the biggest rock star,
not the biggest movie star,
540
00:23:45,324 --> 00:23:48,259
because he wasn't
an entertainer.
541
00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:50,394
He was the real deal.
542
00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:52,630
He was the living legacy
543
00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:55,499
of the closest thing
to greatness
544
00:23:55,501 --> 00:23:56,967
a big slice of this country
545
00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:59,703
thought that we had
ever experienced in a leader.
546
00:23:59,705 --> 00:24:01,472
That's what Kennedy was.
547
00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:03,040
I remember watching,
548
00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:07,044
in sort of a combination
of horror and awe,
549
00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:10,981
the way men and women
threw themselves at him,
550
00:24:10,983 --> 00:24:13,217
Even if they physically weren't
throwing themselves at him,
551
00:24:13,219 --> 00:24:15,519
they were emotionally
throwing themselves at him.
552
00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:16,687
People would come up to him
553
00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:19,223
and you could see them
just shedding IQ points
554
00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:22,159
as they approached.
555
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:24,895
...the closer they got,
the dumber they were.
556
00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:26,730
You knew
that they'd been pretty bright
557
00:24:26,732 --> 00:24:28,132
over here someplace,
558
00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:31,769
but by the time they got there,
they were just dumb as bait.
559
00:24:31,771 --> 00:24:33,070
When People magazine came out,
560
00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:37,541
that was somewhat of
a dividing line in his life.
561
00:24:37,543 --> 00:24:39,910
You know, he was a single guy
in New York City.
562
00:24:39,912 --> 00:24:43,147
He wasn't being treated
as, you know,
563
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:45,483
the son of a slain president
564
00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:48,452
or, you know,
son of Jacqueline Onassis.
565
00:24:48,454 --> 00:24:49,820
At this point, I think,
with the press,
566
00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:54,024
they felt
that everything was fair game.
567
00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:56,627
That happened to John,
like, every day,
568
00:24:56,629 --> 00:24:58,162
everywhere he went,
569
00:24:58,164 --> 00:25:01,332
and even in the biggest city
in America,
570
00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:04,502
you could see,
walking on Broadway,
571
00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:05,803
"pop, pop, pop."
572
00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:07,438
That doesn't happen
to normal people.
573
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,039
That doesn't even happen
to most actors.
574
00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,242
[♪♪♪]
575
00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:25,022
Another layer of John's charm
was that he was a New Yorker.
576
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:27,625
Welcome to the premiere
of Heart of the City .
577
00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:29,260
Hello. I'm John Kennedy.
578
00:25:29,262 --> 00:25:32,162
There are few places on Earth
579
00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:35,733
more fascinating, exciting,
or glamorous than New York City.
580
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:36,967
He loved this city.
581
00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:39,236
He loved everything about it.
582
00:25:39,238 --> 00:25:41,138
[Oberbeck]: You know, he was
on 1040 Fifth Avenue,
583
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,975
which is right across the street
from the Met,
584
00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:47,278
and so the Met
became his playground.
585
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,746
So we played Frisbee
right in front of the Met
586
00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:50,014
because there were lights.
587
00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,382
You know, it had a little more
lights than normal,
588
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:54,451
so we'd be playing Frisbee
right across Fifth Avenue,
589
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,854
you'd sort of bounce it
off a taxi windshield,
590
00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:58,889
and try and, you know,
curve it to each other.
591
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,891
He loved New York.
New York offered him
592
00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:04,495
the right combination
of anonymity
593
00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:06,830
and... and hugs.
594
00:26:06,832 --> 00:26:07,998
You know, it's the energy
of the city.
595
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,033
It's the vibrance.
596
00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:11,468
John, if nothing else,
597
00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:15,539
was an incredibly vibrant,
energetic person.
598
00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:16,607
The guy was peripatetic.
599
00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:18,809
He could not sit still.
600
00:26:18,811 --> 00:26:21,078
Rollerblades
were the biggest thing
601
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,980
that ever happened
in John's life, I think,
602
00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:24,949
because he could really go
like a bat out of hell
603
00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,183
on rollerblades.
604
00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:28,118
He was like
some kind of a superhero.
605
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,955
Funny thing about John
was that, you know,
606
00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:33,757
despite the six-pack abs
and the great physique,
607
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,026
which he certainly had,
608
00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:38,529
and he worked hard for
and he deserved,
609
00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:40,531
he was not a great athlete,
610
00:26:40,533 --> 00:26:43,734
despite all the pictures you see
or films you see
611
00:26:43,736 --> 00:26:46,170
of him playing football
in Central Park.
612
00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:47,538
[Ginsberg]: He was terrible
at touch football.
613
00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,641
He played it with such intensity
and seriousness,
614
00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:52,710
but, you know they say
there's go-to receivers?
615
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:55,446
John was not
a go-to receiver.
616
00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:58,582
Every moment with John
was an adventure.
617
00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:03,320
You know, "Let's go camping.
Let's go rock climbing."
618
00:27:03,322 --> 00:27:05,689
We kayaked out
into the middle of the Hudson
619
00:27:05,691 --> 00:27:08,092
in the middle of the night,
620
00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:11,295
which is, in and of itself,
is an incredible experience.
621
00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:14,698
We would take
the subway together uptown.
622
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,534
You know, he was a regular guy.
623
00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:20,971
He wanted to be treated
like everyone else.
624
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,940
One thing he kept doing
in New York City,
625
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,842
he rode a bike around.
626
00:27:24,844 --> 00:27:26,577
He wouldn't lock it,
and it was, like,
627
00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:29,980
"The world must know this
is John Kennedy's bike," right?
628
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,281
Of course
nobody will steal it.
629
00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,083
Well, it would get stolen
within minutes.
630
00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,819
I don't know
how many bikes he lost.
631
00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,488
In New York City.
632
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:40,324
Here was a guy that
everybody knew his whole story,
633
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,426
and you'd see him, like,
you'd see him ride his bike.
634
00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,028
You'd get a glimpse,
and it was kind of like
635
00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:45,529
seeing Santa Claus
or something.
636
00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:46,697
You'd be like,
"Yeah, I just saw Kennedy!"
637
00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:53,904
And he managed to navigate
this really abnormal...
638
00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:58,208
aura that was around him
and thrust upon him,
639
00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:01,979
and, I think, be a very normal
boy despite it all,
640
00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:04,014
and I do put that
down to his mother,
641
00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:07,885
who was an amazing force
in his life.
642
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:10,220
I remember one day
going with him,
643
00:28:10,222 --> 00:28:11,321
you know, to the house,
644
00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:12,523
you know, knock knock knock
on the door.
645
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:15,426
His mum answered the door,
and I remember her saying,
646
00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:17,227
"Oh, angel."
647
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,229
She called him
"angel" sometimes,
648
00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:21,532
and it was just
so from the heart.
649
00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:24,001
She loved him to bits.
650
00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:26,236
And he was one
of the few adult males
651
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,272
who was still
very much attentive
652
00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:30,074
to his mother's expectations.
653
00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:33,777
It mattered to him
to make his mother proud.
654
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:42,119
When I first heard the news
that Jackie was sick
655
00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:44,054
and she had lymphoma,
656
00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:48,559
I was so sad,
so, so, so sad,
657
00:28:48,561 --> 00:28:52,296
and I immediately called up,
and I just wanted to...
658
00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:54,231
just say
that I was thinking of her
659
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,100
and, you know, praying for her.
660
00:28:56,102 --> 00:28:58,535
She said, you know,
661
00:28:58,537 --> 00:29:00,904
"It's all right.
This is the good kind.
662
00:29:00,906 --> 00:29:03,140
We can beat this kind."
663
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,576
[Andersen]: She says
she's gonna fight this,
664
00:29:05,578 --> 00:29:07,811
and she does.
665
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:09,446
There's chemotherapy, surgery,
666
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,715
and throughout it all,
John is by her side.
667
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:17,154
John called me and said,
"Mummy's coming home.
668
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:18,522
She wants to be at home,
669
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:22,893
and there's nothing more
to be done."
670
00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:25,662
I said, "Okay, I'm coming.
I'm coming."
671
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,565
So I got on a plane
and I came to New York,
672
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:32,569
and, on a human level,
there's nothing else to say.
673
00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:36,106
It was a very big tragedy,
a personal tragedy.
674
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,776
Somebody's mum was dying.
675
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,415
Losing his mother
was intensely personal for him,
676
00:29:45,417 --> 00:29:47,785
but, again, with everything else
in his life,
677
00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:51,021
there were these added layers
of significance to it.
678
00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:52,322
Jackie O was sick,
679
00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:56,193
and that meant something
in American culture.
680
00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:57,895
He had to process all that
681
00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:01,198
and deal with
all this publicity.
682
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:04,434
John! John!
683
00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:07,171
[Amanpour]: Oh, my God.
684
00:30:07,173 --> 00:30:09,139
Can you imagine?
685
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:10,507
How do you live like this?
686
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:12,042
How did Caroline
live like this?
687
00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:13,911
How did John live like this?
688
00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,379
How did Jackie
live like this?
689
00:30:15,381 --> 00:30:18,248
How do you live like this?
690
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,350
I just never forgave
691
00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:22,519
individuals
or members of the press
692
00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:24,721
who didn't have the decency,
693
00:30:24,723 --> 00:30:28,458
especially in the worst,
most painful,
694
00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:31,161
most personal,
most private moments,
695
00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,130
to give them a little space.
696
00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:35,165
I found it...
697
00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:37,067
I found it grotesque,
698
00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,269
especially when
they have given you
699
00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:42,739
the courtesy of their best
and their most polite selves.
700
00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,713
I can't talk about
what happened inside that room
701
00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,048
or inside that apartment.
702
00:30:51,050 --> 00:30:53,684
It's private,
but just to say
703
00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:56,720
that she was surrounded
by her family, her friends,
704
00:30:56,722 --> 00:30:58,188
and a huge amount of love.
705
00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:01,124
Last night, around 10:15,
um...
706
00:31:01,126 --> 00:31:03,527
my mother passed on.
707
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:06,964
She was surrounded
by her friends and her family
708
00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:09,466
and her books, uh,
709
00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,635
and the people and the things
that she loved,
710
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:14,538
and she did it in her own way,
on her own terms,
711
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:18,342
and, uh...
and we all feel lucky for that,
712
00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,345
and now she's in God's hands.
713
00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:24,248
John handled death
better than anybody I knew.
714
00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,216
He lost...
715
00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:29,419
You know, he lost cousins,
he lost parents,
716
00:31:29,421 --> 00:31:34,091
and he was
incredibly unemotional.
717
00:31:34,093 --> 00:31:35,425
Not that he didn't feel it,
718
00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:38,328
but externally was able
to hold it together
719
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:39,963
better than anybody I knew.
720
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:41,531
I remember saying, "John,
how the hell do you do it?"
721
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:45,702
Thank you all very much,
and have a good afternoon.
722
00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:47,337
Sorry, John...
723
00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:50,674
And he said, "You know,
I just learned from my family.
724
00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,643
You just don't wallow in death.
725
00:31:52,645 --> 00:31:56,079
You move on.
You hold it inside."
726
00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,848
[♪♪♪]
727
00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:14,131
Her last letter to her son
included the admonition
728
00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:17,601
"You especially
have a place in history,"
729
00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:21,505
and this was
a real departure for her...
730
00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:28,145
Putting any kind of pressure
on him at all,
731
00:32:28,147 --> 00:32:33,784
which she avoided,
she studiously avoided.
732
00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:34,751
She knew in her heart
733
00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:38,622
that someday
the stars are going to line up
734
00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:41,024
and he's going to be President,
735
00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:42,759
and the money will be there,
736
00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:44,962
the mood of the nation
will be there,
737
00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:46,530
the polls will be there,
738
00:32:46,532 --> 00:32:48,332
the country
will be ready for it,
739
00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:49,933
and he will be President...
740
00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:57,274
[JFK]: We choose to go
to the moon in this decade
741
00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,076
and do the other things
742
00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:02,012
not because they are easy,
but because they are hard.
743
00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:06,183
[Amanpour]: This is the family
that envisioned...
744
00:33:06,185 --> 00:33:08,085
a man on the moon.
745
00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,787
This is the family
that started the Peace Corps.
746
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:11,655
Didn't you feel
747
00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:12,856
an enormous
amount of pressure,
748
00:33:12,858 --> 00:33:15,192
you know, following in
your father's footsteps?
749
00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:16,626
In your mother's?
750
00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:18,695
No, I mean, it was more
a thing of having,
751
00:33:18,697 --> 00:33:20,497
you know,
a fulfilling life,
752
00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:23,967
and then the other stuff
takes care of itself.
753
00:33:23,969 --> 00:33:25,435
It's a complex thing, right?
754
00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:26,503
You have this legacy.
755
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,605
It's clear.
You can't ignore it.
756
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,108
It has great privileges
that come along with it.
757
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:33,543
It has very difficult things
that come along with it.
758
00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:35,612
There's a lot of pressure,
759
00:33:35,614 --> 00:33:37,948
and yet he had
enough confidence
760
00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:41,618
to sort of want
to live out his own life,
761
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,620
but he didn't want
to let anybody down.
762
00:33:43,622 --> 00:33:45,655
I mean, yes,
it was a complicated thing
763
00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:49,426
just to be that son
of that fallen idol.
764
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:53,463
We're used to a certain degree
of being watched,
765
00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:55,532
and I think
that you're aware of it
766
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:58,802
even if you're not
consciously aware of it.
767
00:33:58,804 --> 00:33:59,636
Just obsession.
768
00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:00,737
Well, is that
what it is?
769
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:01,638
Yeah.
770
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,773
You know, it's
given both of us
771
00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:03,840
great opportunities.
772
00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,443
You know, guys like him,
the people make you a king.
773
00:34:06,445 --> 00:34:10,781
He's the uncrowned king,
with king privileges,
774
00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:12,983
and he didn't want 'em.
[laughs]
775
00:34:19,691 --> 00:34:21,258
As he got older, you know,
776
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,560
the edge started to come in.
777
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,228
Like, okay, what are you
going to do now?
778
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,497
How are you going to leave
779
00:34:27,499 --> 00:34:31,902
the iconic image
that we all had of you
780
00:34:31,904 --> 00:34:35,739
and become John Kennedy
who you are?
781
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,607
What's your personality?
What are you going to do?
782
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:38,875
What are you
going to accomplish?
783
00:34:38,877 --> 00:34:43,180
It took him a while to figure
out what he wanted to do,
784
00:34:43,182 --> 00:34:44,281
and, you know, frankly,
785
00:34:44,283 --> 00:34:46,383
I don't think
that really happened
786
00:34:46,385 --> 00:34:47,851
until he did George .
787
00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:49,586
Are you in the market
for a magazine
788
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,022
devoted solely to politics?
789
00:34:52,024 --> 00:34:53,557
Big yawn, right?
790
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:54,758
Now, if I tell you
791
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,260
John Kennedy Jr. is the man
behind the enterprise,
792
00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:58,395
what happens?
793
00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:01,431
They just had no idea
what to expect,
794
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,567
and we kept it really secret.
795
00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:06,670
Ladies and gentlemen,
meet George .
796
00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:08,305
[Berman]: The cover
797
00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:10,107
was the cover
everyone was waiting for.
798
00:35:10,109 --> 00:35:11,842
[applause]
799
00:35:11,844 --> 00:35:14,711
Watching John Kennedy Jr.
present me as "George"
800
00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:16,680
for his inaugural issue,
801
00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:18,482
I thought that was pretty cool.
802
00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:19,716
[Hare]: Cindy Crawford
803
00:35:19,718 --> 00:35:21,618
dressed up
as George Washington.
804
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,019
Of course!
I mean, Cindy Crawford
805
00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:26,156
was probably
the hottest model in the world.
806
00:35:26,158 --> 00:35:27,491
"No problem.
807
00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:30,160
No problem.
We'll get Cindy Crawford.
808
00:35:30,162 --> 00:35:31,595
No problem."
809
00:35:31,597 --> 00:35:32,662
[Berman]:
She's, like, a businesswoman,
810
00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:36,233
women like her,
she's hot, men like her,
811
00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:37,801
she's American,
she's beautiful."
812
00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,971
I didn't really know
the concept or anything,
813
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:42,873
because it was
John Kennedy Jr.'s new magazine.
814
00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:46,209
I think we shoved a sock
down my, um, trousers,
815
00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:50,180
and I literally had the balls
to become George Washington.
816
00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:52,315
And I remember those magazines.
They were sexy.
817
00:35:52,317 --> 00:35:53,917
It was like, Cindy Crawford,
you know,
818
00:35:53,919 --> 00:35:55,552
with the George Washington wig.
819
00:35:55,554 --> 00:35:58,054
George Clooney, I remember,
as one of the covers.
820
00:35:58,056 --> 00:35:59,823
I mean, it was like...
It was a cool magazine.
821
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,091
[De Niro]:
He asked me to do it.
822
00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:04,394
If I could be of some help
getting the magazine started,
823
00:36:04,396 --> 00:36:05,695
as it was my understanding,
824
00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:07,330
I said, "Let me do it. Sure."
825
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:09,432
Politics isn't dry,
826
00:36:09,434 --> 00:36:10,567
it isn't dull,
827
00:36:10,569 --> 00:36:12,669
so why should
a magazine that covers it be?
828
00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:15,739
Mixing politics and pop culture,
829
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,241
and celebrating politics,
830
00:36:18,243 --> 00:36:20,143
and boy I was drawn to that.
831
00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:23,880
[Terenzio]: George was
832
00:36:23,882 --> 00:36:24,915
a place where John
could be John.
833
00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:26,516
There was no legacy,
there was no...
834
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,518
I mean, he was certainly,
like, you know,
835
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,453
everyone's mentor,
836
00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:31,621
and everybody
wanted to be around him,
837
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:32,722
but it wasn't--
838
00:36:32,724 --> 00:36:34,457
it was a situation
where he could be himself
839
00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:35,458
and he could be
really comfortable.
840
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:37,327
A magazine is very organic,
you know?
841
00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:38,395
It has to be.
842
00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:39,729
You get kind of
a weird chemistry
843
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:40,931
with the people
that you work with,
844
00:36:40,933 --> 00:36:44,467
and it's
a very personal expression.
845
00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:46,169
You know, he kind of
breaks that barrier
846
00:36:46,171 --> 00:36:50,907
between a celebrity
and a regular person.
847
00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,342
You're walking
to the men's room,
848
00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:55,145
and he wrestles you
up against the wall, you know,
849
00:36:55,147 --> 00:36:56,646
because he could see maybe
you were a little uptight
850
00:36:56,648 --> 00:36:57,714
or something,
851
00:36:57,716 --> 00:37:02,452
and he... right away,
he took that away.
852
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:05,822
We did this issue called, um,
"Rebels and Revolutionaries,"
853
00:37:05,824 --> 00:37:08,024
and so we had
all these celebrities
854
00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,860
signed up to be various rebels
in history,
855
00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:13,029
like Abbie Hoffman
or Rosa Parks,
856
00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:15,031
and people who stood up
for something,
857
00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:18,134
and who was playing Rosa Parks
was Whoopi Goldberg,
858
00:37:18,136 --> 00:37:19,603
and he sneaks on to the bus,
859
00:37:19,605 --> 00:37:21,471
and we're all just--
keep working,
860
00:37:21,473 --> 00:37:23,273
we were just kind of
in the moment,
861
00:37:23,275 --> 00:37:24,608
and the photographer's snapping,
862
00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:26,676
and John goes up to her,
and he hadn't met her,
863
00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,912
and he goes,
864
00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:31,181
Would you mind going
to the back of the bus?"
865
00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:33,049
and she...[laughs]
...she just cracks up.
866
00:37:33,051 --> 00:37:35,952
She goes, "Not a chance, buddy,"
she goes, you know?
867
00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:37,554
[JFK Jr.]: You have to leaven
the political dialogue
868
00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:40,490
with funny stuff
and light stuff,
869
00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,758
so we may talk about the budget,
870
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,128
we may talk about, you know,
Hillary's hairstylist,
871
00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:48,131
and somewhere in that mix
is, hopefully,
872
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:49,666
an interesting read.
873
00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:50,934
[Ginsberg]:
George , more than anything,
874
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,036
reflected John's personality.
875
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:55,238
It was... fun.
876
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,174
It was mischievous...
877
00:37:58,176 --> 00:38:02,178
Colorful, unconventional.
878
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,213
He thought politics
879
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:05,682
was too important
to be left to the politicians.
880
00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:07,050
[Bill Clinton]:
I have accepted responsibility
881
00:38:07,052 --> 00:38:10,053
for what I did wrong
in my personal life,
882
00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:13,757
and I have invited
members of Congress
883
00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:17,460
to work with us to find
a reasonable, bipartisan,
884
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,430
and proportionate response.
885
00:38:20,432 --> 00:38:21,698
I was so deep
in the impeachment.
886
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,732
I was working
at the White House,
887
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:23,933
and I was on
the impeachment team...
888
00:38:25,304 --> 00:38:26,903
and there was a moment...
889
00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:28,171
I'm sitting in my office,
890
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:29,005
I had a private fax,
891
00:38:29,007 --> 00:38:30,440
and the thing starts whirring,
892
00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:33,310
and it spits out
a one-page note,
893
00:38:33,312 --> 00:38:34,844
hand written.
894
00:38:34,846 --> 00:38:39,282
It says, "Dear Mr. President,
895
00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:40,850
I've been under that desk.
896
00:38:40,852 --> 00:38:42,952
There's barely room
for a three-year-old,
897
00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:46,389
much less a 22-year-old intern.
898
00:38:46,391 --> 00:38:48,425
Cheers, JK."
899
00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:51,795
I have to say I took that thing
into the Oval Office,
900
00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:53,430
and Bill Clinton
laughed so hard,
901
00:38:53,432 --> 00:38:55,131
tears...
It was a great release.
902
00:38:55,133 --> 00:38:56,066
It was a great moment.
903
00:38:56,068 --> 00:38:58,301
But being able
to see the absurdity
904
00:38:58,303 --> 00:39:01,137
in a constitutional crisis,
905
00:39:01,139 --> 00:39:02,906
and also to sort of
playfully mock
906
00:39:02,908 --> 00:39:05,775
one of the iconic images
of his life,
907
00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:07,510
was pretty amazing.
908
00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,511
It was a witch hunt, it was,
909
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:09,646
and it was a time of witches,
910
00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,581
and I just don't think
John was really interested
911
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,016
in setting people on fire
912
00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:14,784
because of their
sexual peccadilloes.
913
00:39:14,786 --> 00:39:17,287
What we've tried to do
with our writing is that...
914
00:39:17,289 --> 00:39:20,590
our writers,
is to really bring a sensibility
915
00:39:20,592 --> 00:39:22,225
to the coverage of politics
916
00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,193
that is different
917
00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:26,162
than conventional
political magazines.
918
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:27,230
He believed
919
00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:28,765
that if you wanted
to do something innovative,
920
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:31,401
if you wanted to be, you know,
sort of disruptive,
921
00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:32,869
you had to bring people in
922
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,039
who were not rank-and-file
magazine people.
923
00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:37,741
Ann Coulter, who you'd think,
924
00:39:37,743 --> 00:39:39,876
what is she doing
in this magazine?
925
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:43,179
My family was not
a Kennedy-fanatic family,
926
00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,950
so I never really distinguished
one Kennedy from the rest,
927
00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:48,918
so I knew he was at least
the good-looking one
928
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,187
of this motley crew.
929
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,356
He was certainly fair
to Republicans,
930
00:39:53,358 --> 00:39:55,058
and no other magazine was.
931
00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:58,962
He seemed to want to give
some of those right-wing whackos
932
00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:00,363
their voice of the day.
933
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:03,600
[Cuomo]: The media,
it doesn't matter who you are,
934
00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:07,170
it is a very, uh...
competitive place,
935
00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:09,672
where your competition
is your critic base.
936
00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:11,841
Your family's famous
for sticking together.
937
00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,209
Can we expect some
tough stories
938
00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:14,544
about Uncle Ted?
939
00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:15,912
Never.
940
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:18,381
What I have decided,
with regard to my family,
941
00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:19,916
that I will recuse myself
942
00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,785
and let my editor
make the choices,
943
00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:23,119
with the one reminder
944
00:40:23,121 --> 00:40:25,355
that we have to work together
in the future.
945
00:40:25,357 --> 00:40:28,591
In September's George ,
JFK breaks ranks.
946
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:29,659
"Two members of my family
947
00:40:29,661 --> 00:40:31,761
became poster boys
for bad behavior.
948
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,763
Perhaps they deserved it.
949
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,232
Perhaps they should have
known better."
950
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:38,868
Mr. Oliphant, you think
that this is sophomoric. Why?
951
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:39,936
The interesting thing
952
00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:42,906
is that what you just read
is all there is.
953
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:45,141
There was now
a larger number of people
954
00:40:45,143 --> 00:40:47,343
who wanted to see him struggle.
955
00:40:47,345 --> 00:40:51,514
Even though John was seen
as an exalted figure,
956
00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:52,916
now he got into the business.
957
00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:55,752
Standards for public discussion
ought to be high,
958
00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:58,087
and I think John Kennedy
doesn't come close
959
00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,957
to even meeting
minimal standards.
960
00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,059
John takes
that kind of criticism
961
00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,928
like water off a duck's back.
962
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:07,697
He thinks philosophically.
963
00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:10,066
He understands his product well.
964
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,735
Washington
really rewards convention.
965
00:41:12,737 --> 00:41:14,671
You really can't
color outside the lines.
966
00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:16,406
You know, in Washington,
the big phrase is
967
00:41:16,408 --> 00:41:17,774
"Suck up and piss down."
968
00:41:17,776 --> 00:41:20,043
I never once saw him do that.
Never once.
969
00:41:20,045 --> 00:41:23,446
George magazine was definitely
his magazine,
970
00:41:23,448 --> 00:41:26,749
and the fact that there are
no other magazines like that,
971
00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:29,385
to this day, there's no other
magazine like it,
972
00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:30,854
kind of proves the point.
973
00:41:36,761 --> 00:41:38,995
John went to buy a suit
at Calvin Klein,
974
00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,832
and he ran into this beautiful,
ethereal blonde woman,
975
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:44,300
Carolyn Bessette.
976
00:41:44,302 --> 00:41:47,737
John was attracted to women
who...
977
00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:49,839
were not intimidated by him.
978
00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:54,677
He liked women
with a point of view.
979
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,212
He was smitten with her
from the first time he met her.
980
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:59,449
He was all loved up
with Carolyn,
981
00:41:59,451 --> 00:42:01,518
they were dating at the time,
and he lived across the street,
982
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,687
they came in,
and, uh...
983
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,122
and on the way out,
984
00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:08,024
she was kind of
climbing on his back.
985
00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,826
Like, they were in love,
you know?
986
00:42:09,828 --> 00:42:11,227
They were being playful.
She was literally...
987
00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:13,096
He was carrying her out.
She was on his back.
988
00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:15,732
You know,
he could have had, what?
989
00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:17,200
The prim, proper girl
990
00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:19,969
from, you know, some, you know,
girls' school in Manhattan.
991
00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:22,372
She was fun,
gregarious, smiling.
992
00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:25,875
She was very quirky,
eccentric...
993
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:28,745
artistic, Bohemian.
994
00:42:28,747 --> 00:42:30,146
Carolyn was hilarious.
995
00:42:30,148 --> 00:42:32,782
She was sarcastic
without being mean.
996
00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:34,584
She was funny.
997
00:42:34,586 --> 00:42:35,618
She was engaging.
998
00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:37,453
You cannot tell in photographs
999
00:42:37,455 --> 00:42:40,990
how beautiful she was
in real life.
1000
00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:44,627
I never saw a picture of her
that did her justice.
1001
00:42:44,629 --> 00:42:46,362
Carolyn was enchanting.
1002
00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:49,666
There was something about her
1003
00:42:49,668 --> 00:42:53,202
that when she focused on you,
1004
00:42:53,204 --> 00:42:56,306
you felt like you were
the only person in the world.
1005
00:42:56,308 --> 00:42:58,441
[Cuomo]:
Not only did John Kennedy
1006
00:42:58,443 --> 00:43:02,245
suffer from a, you know,
a true overabundance of riches
1007
00:43:02,247 --> 00:43:05,315
when it came to women
who found him attractive,
1008
00:43:05,317 --> 00:43:08,151
but to have a woman
who didn't seem as though
1009
00:43:08,153 --> 00:43:10,954
she needed John
to find her attractive,
1010
00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:13,323
now, that's the magic
right there,
1011
00:43:13,325 --> 00:43:16,259
and, certainly,
Carolyn had that in spades,
1012
00:43:16,261 --> 00:43:19,195
and I think that
it really motivated John
1013
00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:21,030
to be his best self.
1014
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,366
John F. Kennedy Jr.,
1015
00:43:23,368 --> 00:43:25,868
long regarded as the world's
most eligible bachelor,
1016
00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:27,036
is a married man.
1017
00:43:27,038 --> 00:43:28,237
[Chermayeff]:
The wedding was great.
1018
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,541
The wedding
was really, really nice.
1019
00:43:31,543 --> 00:43:32,976
It was beautiful,
1020
00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:37,080
and it was
a beautiful little church.
1021
00:43:37,082 --> 00:43:39,349
[Amanpour]:
His family was there,
1022
00:43:39,351 --> 00:43:40,950
and nobody knew till the end,
1023
00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:42,318
and how fabulous is that?
1024
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,020
What a great sense of freedom.
1025
00:43:44,022 --> 00:43:48,458
So uncomplicated,
so un-grand, so simple.
1026
00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:50,193
So simple.
1027
00:43:50,195 --> 00:43:53,396
They released one picture,
and that was that.
1028
00:43:57,936 --> 00:43:59,068
[Terenzio]:
Planning that wedding
1029
00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,871
was the most nerve-racking,
terrifying thing
1030
00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:03,473
I have ever encountered
in my life.
1031
00:44:03,475 --> 00:44:08,344
It was so important to them
that the wedding be private.
1032
00:44:11,282 --> 00:44:12,915
[Cuomo]: Beautiful woman,
1033
00:44:12,917 --> 00:44:16,185
but it was the energy
that she had,
1034
00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:17,920
it was she brought out in John,
1035
00:44:17,922 --> 00:44:19,989
it's what he drew from her
1036
00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:22,859
that really made
that relationship what it was.
1037
00:44:22,861 --> 00:44:25,795
The complementary aspects
on the outside
1038
00:44:25,797 --> 00:44:28,231
were nothing compared to
what they shared on the inside.
1039
00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:31,834
I saw a very, very romantic
side of their, you know,
1040
00:44:31,836 --> 00:44:33,002
newlywed life.
1041
00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:34,404
They'd really got affectionate
1042
00:44:34,406 --> 00:44:37,106
and talk in private name talk,
1043
00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:39,075
you know, whatever
they called each other.
1044
00:44:39,077 --> 00:44:40,143
You know,
it would get embarrassing,
1045
00:44:40,145 --> 00:44:41,477
where I'd be like,
1046
00:44:41,479 --> 00:44:42,612
"I'm going to go get that thing
at the Xerox machine,"
1047
00:44:42,614 --> 00:44:43,646
and I'd kind of slip out.
1048
00:44:43,648 --> 00:44:46,182
They had a friendship
as well as a marriage,
1049
00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:48,184
and that was really
sweet and nice.
1050
00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:54,323
This woman has,
in one swell swoop,
1051
00:44:54,325 --> 00:44:57,827
become the greatest celebrity,
you know, of the last 10 years.
1052
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:59,529
Carolyn got, you know,
1053
00:44:59,531 --> 00:45:02,365
dumped into the deep end
of the celebrity thing,
1054
00:45:02,367 --> 00:45:04,701
you know,
pretty unceremoniously.
1055
00:45:04,703 --> 00:45:08,438
She could have never anticipated
the intensity
1056
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,040
that would then
be transferred onto her
1057
00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,175
because now it's not just
1058
00:45:12,177 --> 00:45:13,142
"Well, you're hanging out
with this guy
1059
00:45:13,144 --> 00:45:14,210
that we all care about,"
1060
00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:16,779
it's "Wow, you're the one?
1061
00:45:16,781 --> 00:45:18,047
You're the one?"
1062
00:45:18,049 --> 00:45:19,682
So it became this combination
1063
00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:22,752
of everything
you would have to deal with
1064
00:45:22,754 --> 00:45:24,520
if you were dating a rock star,
1065
00:45:24,522 --> 00:45:26,155
with...
1066
00:45:26,157 --> 00:45:29,525
that rock star
also happens to be royalty.
1067
00:45:29,527 --> 00:45:33,629
Carolyn Bessette
was not prepared for life
1068
00:45:33,631 --> 00:45:36,165
as the wife
of John F. Kennedy Jr.
1069
00:45:36,167 --> 00:45:38,101
I mean, photographers
were everywhere.
1070
00:45:38,103 --> 00:45:40,703
They hounded her every step.
1071
00:45:40,705 --> 00:45:43,272
Carolyn didn't smile ever,
because she was terrified.
1072
00:45:43,274 --> 00:45:45,308
She wasn't used to it.
1073
00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:48,177
She was being bombarded
with cameras and paparazzi
1074
00:45:48,179 --> 00:45:49,712
and people screaming
horrible things at her
1075
00:45:49,714 --> 00:45:50,713
to try and get a reaction.
1076
00:45:50,715 --> 00:45:52,281
People were cruel to her,
1077
00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:53,683
and the media
could be really cruel to her.
1078
00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:56,119
[Andersen]:
It was too stressful for her,
1079
00:45:56,121 --> 00:45:57,253
and too much,
and she couldn't take it,
1080
00:45:57,255 --> 00:45:59,088
and John was so worried
1081
00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:00,590
that he held
a special press conference,
1082
00:46:00,592 --> 00:46:03,159
in which he asked the press
to back off.
1083
00:46:03,161 --> 00:46:04,360
How was the
honeymoon, John?
1084
00:46:04,362 --> 00:46:07,730
Good. Getting married
is a big adjustment,
1085
00:46:07,732 --> 00:46:09,432
and for her, who was a...
1086
00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:11,234
a private citizen
up until about two weeks ago,
1087
00:46:11,236 --> 00:46:12,602
it's even more so.
1088
00:46:12,604 --> 00:46:14,237
I don't think
she quite appreciated
1089
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,305
just how intense
it was going to be.
1090
00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:18,074
I don't think anybody
could have appreciated it.
1091
00:46:18,076 --> 00:46:20,042
I don't buy what people say,
1092
00:46:20,044 --> 00:46:22,445
that she knew
what she was getting into.
1093
00:46:22,447 --> 00:46:23,880
No one knows
what they're getting into
1094
00:46:23,882 --> 00:46:24,914
until they're in it.
1095
00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:26,415
How was the
honeymoon, John?
1096
00:46:26,417 --> 00:46:28,284
Hold it, please, for us.
Look this way!
1097
00:46:28,286 --> 00:46:29,418
Oh, we're not
getting it.
1098
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:30,453
We're not
getting it, John.
1099
00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:32,755
Are there any little
Johns on the way?
1100
00:46:35,093 --> 00:46:36,793
John!
Whoa, whoa.
1101
00:46:36,795 --> 00:46:37,794
Too quick.
1102
00:46:37,796 --> 00:46:40,062
It kind of caused her
to unravel a little bit.
1103
00:46:40,064 --> 00:46:43,065
She felt it was so oppressive,
having those people out there.
1104
00:46:43,067 --> 00:46:46,202
She just would not
leave the house.
1105
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,973
I took her out at one point,
and I said, "Listen, you know,
1106
00:46:50,975 --> 00:46:53,142
there's only one way
around this,
1107
00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:57,814
which is to reduce
the value of the currency
1108
00:46:57,816 --> 00:47:00,850
by making it more plentiful."
1109
00:47:02,387 --> 00:47:03,853
One more time, how was
the honeymoon, John?
1110
00:47:03,855 --> 00:47:04,754
Great.
1111
00:47:04,756 --> 00:47:06,222
Honeymoons are great.
I recommend them.
1112
00:47:06,224 --> 00:47:07,590
Any little Johns
on the way?
1113
00:47:07,592 --> 00:47:08,891
Little Johns?
1114
00:47:11,796 --> 00:47:14,063
I mean, you've just got
to go out there,
1115
00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:17,066
and be out there,
you know, enough
1116
00:47:17,068 --> 00:47:19,368
so that you don't go on being
1117
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:22,205
like the Howard Hughes
of brides.
1118
00:47:22,207 --> 00:47:23,506
It can't be said enough.
1119
00:47:23,508 --> 00:47:27,243
There is no celebrity,
even today,
1120
00:47:27,245 --> 00:47:29,812
who knows what it's like
to have the constancy
1121
00:47:29,814 --> 00:47:32,815
and the intensity of interest
in their life,
1122
00:47:32,817 --> 00:47:35,017
on all strata of society,
1123
00:47:35,019 --> 00:47:35,952
as John Kennedy.
1124
00:47:43,761 --> 00:47:45,328
John wound up striking
1125
00:47:45,330 --> 00:47:47,930
a very pure bargain
with the media
1126
00:47:47,932 --> 00:47:49,365
and the rest of the culture,
1127
00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,133
which was "Okay, I get it.
1128
00:47:51,135 --> 00:47:53,069
You find me interesting.
1129
00:47:53,071 --> 00:47:54,637
Great, come on in,
1130
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,405
but I'm going to be
doing things
1131
00:47:56,407 --> 00:47:57,707
that I think are important.
1132
00:47:57,709 --> 00:47:59,208
I'm not going to be
rollerblading around
1133
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:00,209
with my shirt on
1134
00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:01,410
or taking a swim.
1135
00:48:01,412 --> 00:48:03,446
I'm going to be
taking you places
1136
00:48:03,448 --> 00:48:04,747
and talking about things
1137
00:48:04,749 --> 00:48:07,683
and showing you people
and places that matter to me,
1138
00:48:07,685 --> 00:48:09,585
and you're going to be there
because I am."
1139
00:48:09,587 --> 00:48:12,421
Mike Tyson received
a jailhouse visit last night
1140
00:48:12,423 --> 00:48:14,457
from John F. Kennedy Jr.
1141
00:48:14,459 --> 00:48:17,760
Kennedy says it was a visit between friends.
1142
00:48:17,762 --> 00:48:19,228
Can you tell us why
you're here tonight?
1143
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,263
Yeah, I'll do it
on my way out,
1144
00:48:20,265 --> 00:48:21,297
if that's all right.
1145
00:48:21,299 --> 00:48:22,365
All right, sure.
1146
00:48:22,367 --> 00:48:24,867
You know, he paid this visit
to the prison
1147
00:48:24,869 --> 00:48:27,670
in May of '99,
two months before he died,
1148
00:48:27,672 --> 00:48:31,440
and at that point,
Tyson was not a popular figure,
1149
00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,409
but John had
a relationship with him,
1150
00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:36,479
and John felt a personal
compassion for the guy.
1151
00:48:36,481 --> 00:48:38,514
He said, "The only reason
you're in this jail
1152
00:48:38,516 --> 00:48:39,548
is because you're black,"
1153
00:48:39,550 --> 00:48:41,717
and I...
And that could have been,
1154
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,252
but I kind of disagreed
at that moment.
1155
00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:44,353
I was really...
1156
00:48:44,355 --> 00:48:46,355
I was pretty much
an irritant back then.
1157
00:48:46,357 --> 00:48:47,757
I got into a car accident,
1158
00:48:47,759 --> 00:48:49,158
a fender-bender,
1159
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,259
and I was mad,
1160
00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:52,261
and I struck the people
in the car.
1161
00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:53,329
They gave me two years.
1162
00:48:53,331 --> 00:48:55,264
He thought it was outrageous.
1163
00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:56,499
He came down.
1164
00:48:56,501 --> 00:48:57,767
I think he's a man
1165
00:48:57,769 --> 00:48:59,869
who really was putting
his life back together,
1166
00:48:59,871 --> 00:49:02,805
has an opportunity to do so
in the future,
1167
00:49:02,807 --> 00:49:03,973
has a strong family.
1168
00:49:03,975 --> 00:49:05,241
He has kids.
1169
00:49:05,243 --> 00:49:06,475
He has a wife that
really looks out for him,
1170
00:49:06,477 --> 00:49:09,345
and, you know, I hope, you know,
1171
00:49:09,347 --> 00:49:11,781
perhaps coming here
and telling folks that,
1172
00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:13,849
people might start
to believe it.
1173
00:49:20,491 --> 00:49:22,325
[Leamer]: All John's life,
perhaps coming here
and telling folks that,
1174
00:49:22,427 --> 00:49:24,393
he wanted to be free.
1175
00:49:24,495 --> 00:49:26,495
He wanted to fly
above celebrity.
1176
00:49:26,597 --> 00:49:28,898
He wanted to fly
above this attention
1177
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,399
and be his own person,
1178
00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:33,102
and the ultimate way to do that
was to fly,
1179
00:49:33,204 --> 00:49:35,538
and from the time he was a boy,
he wanted to do that.
1180
00:49:38,343 --> 00:49:40,443
John was serious
about becoming a pilot,
1181
00:49:40,545 --> 00:49:43,779
and he went down to
the famous academy in Vero Beach
1182
00:49:43,881 --> 00:49:44,680
to learn to fly,
1183
00:49:44,782 --> 00:49:46,415
where only
professional pilots go.
1184
00:49:46,517 --> 00:49:48,884
[Barlow]:
I'm a private pilot,
1185
00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:52,455
and had a plane that
I was using a lot on the ranch.
1186
00:49:52,557 --> 00:49:54,523
He always wanted
to go along on that,
1187
00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:57,426
and I eventually said,
1188
00:49:57,528 --> 00:49:58,594
"Obviously, you want to know
1189
00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:00,329
how to drive
one of these things.
1190
00:50:00,431 --> 00:50:01,831
It's not that hard.
1191
00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,499
Let me teach you."
1192
00:50:03,601 --> 00:50:05,134
He was always fascinated
with aviation,
1193
00:50:05,236 --> 00:50:06,502
and it goes back to his youth,
1194
00:50:06,604 --> 00:50:09,071
because that's when
the whole space program
1195
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,273
really took off
under his father.
1196
00:50:11,376 --> 00:50:14,110
That had a major influence
on his life.
1197
00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:16,379
[Tyson]:
He would tell me
1198
00:50:16,481 --> 00:50:18,781
about his great ideas
about flying.
1199
00:50:18,883 --> 00:50:20,883
He just didn't seem
rational to me, you know?
1200
00:50:20,985 --> 00:50:22,018
Some people are...
1201
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,486
Some people are different,
1202
00:50:23,588 --> 00:50:24,520
and that's what
you have to respect.
1203
00:50:24,622 --> 00:50:26,255
In my wildest dreams,
1204
00:50:26,357 --> 00:50:28,290
I would never want
to fly a plane by myself.
1205
00:50:28,393 --> 00:50:30,059
All my life, I wanted
people to wait on me.
1206
00:50:30,161 --> 00:50:31,360
That's why I worked so hard.
1207
00:50:31,462 --> 00:50:33,462
[laughs] I don't want
to fly the plane.
1208
00:50:33,564 --> 00:50:35,564
I want you to fly
the go***mn plane.
1209
00:50:44,509 --> 00:50:46,976
On Memorial Day of 1999,
1210
00:50:47,078 --> 00:50:50,312
John took up this contraption
that he had bought
1211
00:50:50,415 --> 00:50:52,348
called
a Buckeye powered parachute.
1212
00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:53,783
I was not thrilled
about the Buckeye.
1213
00:50:53,885 --> 00:50:55,317
I would not go up
in the Buckeye.
1214
00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:57,186
It was a kite
with a lawnmower attached to it.
1215
00:50:58,656 --> 00:51:00,089
I remember one time we were out
in Hyannis Port,
1216
00:51:00,191 --> 00:51:01,123
and he was flying it around.
1217
00:51:01,225 --> 00:51:02,458
He was like, "Do you
want to give it a shot?"
1218
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,260
I was like, "Absolutely not."
1219
00:51:04,362 --> 00:51:05,528
I was afraid to fly that thing,
1220
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:07,797
and, you know, I'm not afraid
to fly much of anything,
1221
00:51:07,899 --> 00:51:11,600
but that was
a very treacherous aircraft.
1222
00:51:13,905 --> 00:51:17,540
And he was flying around
up there by himself,
1223
00:51:17,642 --> 00:51:22,311
and Caroline said,
"He's all alone up there.
1224
00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:24,213
He couldn't be happier."
1225
00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:25,414
He went up in that thing,
1226
00:51:25,516 --> 00:51:27,049
and then something went wrong,
1227
00:51:27,151 --> 00:51:30,419
and he came down,
and he came down with a crash,
1228
00:51:30,521 --> 00:51:33,489
and we all went running
to go see him,
1229
00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:36,826
and the first ones to get there
was my husband,
1230
00:51:36,928 --> 00:51:37,860
holding my son,
1231
00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:40,863
but he was so conscious
of not freaking out.
1232
00:51:40,965 --> 00:51:43,732
He was like, "No, no, Phinney,
I'm going to be fine," you know,
1233
00:51:43,835 --> 00:51:45,935
Phinney was like,
"What's the matter, John?"
1234
00:51:46,037 --> 00:51:48,003
He was like, "No, no, I'm fine.
I hurt my leg.
1235
00:51:48,106 --> 00:51:49,138
I'm going to go get it fixed."
1236
00:51:50,675 --> 00:51:52,541
[Andersen]:
He survived the crash,
1237
00:51:52,643 --> 00:51:54,443
but he broke his left ankle,
1238
00:51:54,545 --> 00:51:56,879
and for the next several weeks
he was wearing a cast.
1239
00:51:56,981 --> 00:51:58,013
It's an emotional thing.
1240
00:51:58,116 --> 00:51:58,848
You break your leg,
1241
00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:00,182
it's the beginning
of the summer...
1242
00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:03,652
It's sort of like a symbolic,
just everything's broken down.
1243
00:52:04,822 --> 00:52:06,889
[Amanpour]:
John was going to try to get
1244
00:52:06,991 --> 00:52:08,057
some more funding,
1245
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:10,359
and try to breathe
new life into George ,
1246
00:52:10,461 --> 00:52:11,460
which was, you know,
1247
00:52:11,562 --> 00:52:13,562
suffering from some
of the economic realities
1248
00:52:13,664 --> 00:52:15,097
around the publishing industry
at that time.
1249
00:52:17,301 --> 00:52:18,834
Is there a conflict
in your own mind
1250
00:52:18,936 --> 00:52:20,669
about your role in all of this?
1251
00:52:20,771 --> 00:52:22,838
It will succeed, in part,
1252
00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:24,940
because it's also the selling
of John Kennedy.
1253
00:52:25,042 --> 00:52:25,975
I mean, I understand
1254
00:52:26,077 --> 00:52:28,611
that I compromise a measure
of my own privacy
1255
00:52:28,713 --> 00:52:30,212
by doing something like this.
1256
00:52:30,314 --> 00:52:31,914
This is a commercial venture,
1257
00:52:32,016 --> 00:52:34,450
and I'm out here
selling my magazine.
1258
00:52:34,552 --> 00:52:36,685
[Terenzio]:
The ad pages
1259
00:52:36,787 --> 00:52:37,920
in the first two issues,
you know,
1260
00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:39,889
it was thick
as a phone book, almost.
1261
00:52:39,991 --> 00:52:42,892
I think that people expected
that to keep going, you know.
1262
00:52:42,994 --> 00:52:45,060
They expected every issue
to be packed with ads,
1263
00:52:45,163 --> 00:52:46,962
and I think we kind of
expected that, too,
1264
00:52:47,064 --> 00:52:48,264
a little bit,
1265
00:52:48,366 --> 00:52:49,465
and it was
tougher than we thought
1266
00:52:49,567 --> 00:52:52,368
to keep it going,
and to keep people interested,
1267
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:54,637
and to keep the advertisers
coming back,
1268
00:52:54,739 --> 00:52:59,175
and it was important
not to use John for that,
1269
00:52:59,277 --> 00:53:02,144
but to really have
the integrity of the magazine
1270
00:53:02,246 --> 00:53:03,746
stand for itself.
1271
00:53:03,848 --> 00:53:05,214
I think it was
ahead of its time,
1272
00:53:05,316 --> 00:53:06,582
unfortunately.
1273
00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:10,419
I think John saw something
that today is taken for granted,
1274
00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:12,188
this idea of the melding
of politics with culture.
1275
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:13,522
You know, I guess, you know,
1276
00:53:13,624 --> 00:53:16,492
people didn't really care
what Cyndi Lauper had to say
1277
00:53:16,594 --> 00:53:17,927
about Israeli politics.
1278
00:53:18,029 --> 00:53:20,930
I mean, it was a goofy maga...
I mean, it was...
1279
00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:24,800
If you thought about it,
it was like, you know what?
1280
00:53:24,902 --> 00:53:27,136
I don't know
if people really care.
1281
00:53:27,238 --> 00:53:30,539
He had been told that Hachette
was going to basically,
1282
00:53:30,641 --> 00:53:32,808
I think, pull back
on its funding.
1283
00:53:34,812 --> 00:53:37,479
It was up to him now
to keep it alive.
1284
00:53:37,582 --> 00:53:38,781
I personally think
1285
00:53:38,883 --> 00:53:41,817
it's incredibly important
for someone like him,
1286
00:53:41,919 --> 00:53:46,855
that was, I think, destined
for this amazing future,
1287
00:53:46,958 --> 00:53:51,760
to know what it's like
to go around and beg for money,
1288
00:53:51,862 --> 00:53:54,230
and he wasn't getting the money.
1289
00:53:54,332 --> 00:53:56,065
Is this your life,
magazine editor,
1290
00:53:56,167 --> 00:53:58,267
or is politics
somewhere down the road?
1291
00:53:58,369 --> 00:54:00,536
I'm here for a good long time.
1292
00:54:00,638 --> 00:54:01,704
And then?
1293
00:54:01,806 --> 00:54:02,638
And then we'll see.
1294
00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:03,806
I actually think
1295
00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:06,575
that John was more interested
in politics
1296
00:54:06,677 --> 00:54:08,177
than he let on
sometimes, you know.
1297
00:54:08,279 --> 00:54:09,111
Outwardly, he would say,
1298
00:54:09,213 --> 00:54:11,280
" George magazine
is my compromise,"
1299
00:54:11,382 --> 00:54:12,615
you know, "This is what I'll do.
1300
00:54:12,717 --> 00:54:15,284
It's political without
my being in politics,"
1301
00:54:15,386 --> 00:54:18,087
but I think that
the older he got,
1302
00:54:18,189 --> 00:54:21,423
the more he recognized
the purpose of service.
1303
00:54:21,525 --> 00:54:23,459
A public career is...
1304
00:54:23,561 --> 00:54:26,295
is, uh, it's a lot to bite off,
1305
00:54:26,397 --> 00:54:28,030
and you'd better
be ready for it,
1306
00:54:28,132 --> 00:54:29,932
and you'd better have
your life set up for it,
1307
00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:31,900
and you'd better be prepared
to do it for the long haul.
1308
00:54:32,003 --> 00:54:35,271
He was kind of born
to be president, right?
1309
00:54:35,373 --> 00:54:36,605
Certainly, after his dad died,
1310
00:54:36,707 --> 00:54:38,574
everyone assumed
that at some point
1311
00:54:38,676 --> 00:54:40,876
that would be
his ultimate journey.
1312
00:54:40,978 --> 00:54:42,945
You know, it's like
a great musician or something.
1313
00:54:43,047 --> 00:54:45,948
He was just very talented
at dealing with people,
1314
00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:47,783
and so he had
all the natural skills
1315
00:54:47,885 --> 00:54:50,486
to be a very successful
politician.
1316
00:54:50,588 --> 00:54:52,288
It's in the family,
it's in the blood,
1317
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:54,290
and it was in him.
1318
00:54:54,392 --> 00:54:57,393
There was always this sense,
this constant reminder,
1319
00:54:57,495 --> 00:54:59,028
that his father
had been murdered,
1320
00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:01,497
and that's how everybody
identified with him,
1321
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:02,731
and I suspect
1322
00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:05,401
everybody of, like,
my mom's generation
1323
00:55:05,503 --> 00:55:09,371
always sees him
as that little boy
1324
00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:11,674
at his father's funeral.
1325
00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:18,213
His fame was both
derivative and tragic.
1326
00:55:18,316 --> 00:55:20,049
He wasn't famous
because of anything he did.
1327
00:55:20,151 --> 00:55:22,017
He was famous
because of his existence.
1328
00:55:36,033 --> 00:55:37,800
We are interrupting
your program this morning
1329
00:55:37,902 --> 00:55:41,003
for some information
involving John F. Kennedy Jr.,
1330
00:55:41,105 --> 00:55:43,172
the son of the slain president.
1331
00:55:43,274 --> 00:55:44,873
ABC News has reports
1332
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:47,042
that his plane is missing
this morning.
1333
00:55:56,754 --> 00:55:58,253
A dark day for America.
1334
00:55:58,255 --> 00:56:01,156
John F. Kennedy Jr.,
his wife, Carolyn,
1335
00:56:01,158 --> 00:56:02,758
and her sister, Lauren Bessette,
1336
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,726
still are missing tonight,
1337
00:56:03,728 --> 00:56:04,993
You know, as somebody
1338
00:56:04,995 --> 00:56:06,695
who has flown a light plane
on the east coast,
1339
00:56:06,697 --> 00:56:09,965
you get conditions in the summer
1340
00:56:09,967 --> 00:56:15,404
where humidity
will be so intense
1341
00:56:15,406 --> 00:56:17,906
that the horizon
will just disappear into it.
1342
00:56:17,908 --> 00:56:20,342
He took off
from a New Jersey airport,
1343
00:56:20,344 --> 00:56:22,711
heading eventually for
his cousin Rory's wedding
1344
00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:25,147
at the family compound
in Hyannis Port,
1345
00:56:25,149 --> 00:56:28,584
after stopping first
in Martha's Vineyard.
1346
00:56:28,586 --> 00:56:31,019
that they went down in the crash
of a single-engine plane
1347
00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:32,554
that Kennedy
was flying last night.
1348
00:56:32,556 --> 00:56:34,690
As that news spread across
America throughout the day,
1349
00:56:34,692 --> 00:56:36,592
there was a common reaction:
1350
00:56:36,594 --> 00:56:38,160
"This is unbelievable.
1351
00:56:38,162 --> 00:56:40,095
That family truly is cursed."
1352
00:56:42,133 --> 00:56:43,499
[Barlow]:
I spent a couple of hours
1353
00:56:43,501 --> 00:56:44,566
trying to convince myself
1354
00:56:44,568 --> 00:56:50,272
that what they'd done
was to...was to run away.
1355
00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:54,476
So I thought, "Gosh,
maybe they've pulled this off.
1356
00:56:54,478 --> 00:56:55,411
Maybe they'll...
1357
00:56:55,413 --> 00:56:58,280
they'll go off
and get plastic surgery
1358
00:56:58,282 --> 00:57:02,384
and disappear from
the face of the earth, and..."
1359
00:57:02,386 --> 00:57:05,921
But that was
a pretty optimistic view.
1360
00:57:05,923 --> 00:57:08,323
You know, I held out hope
for a while
1361
00:57:08,325 --> 00:57:11,059
that he would be
stranded somewhere,
1362
00:57:11,061 --> 00:57:12,761
like, swimming there,
or whatever.
1363
00:57:12,763 --> 00:57:13,896
[chuckles]
1364
00:57:13,898 --> 00:57:15,964
Nope.
1365
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,167
Not in a million years
1366
00:57:18,169 --> 00:57:21,870
did I think that
there was any way possible
1367
00:57:21,872 --> 00:57:24,173
that that plane had gone down.
1368
00:57:24,175 --> 00:57:26,108
I just thought,
"He's somewhere else."
1369
00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:27,342
You know, to be honest,
1370
00:57:27,344 --> 00:57:31,180
I don't think I'll ever
really grasp what happened.
1371
00:57:31,182 --> 00:57:32,548
And a friend of mine called
1372
00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:36,051
and said that he had heard
that John's plane was missing,
1373
00:57:36,053 --> 00:57:38,487
and so I called John's house
1374
00:57:38,489 --> 00:57:40,222
because I knew Rosemarie
was staying there,
1375
00:57:40,224 --> 00:57:41,690
and I called Rose,
I said, "Rose,
1376
00:57:41,692 --> 00:57:44,092
this is not true, right?"
1377
00:57:44,094 --> 00:57:46,695
and she broke down and said,
"Yeah, it's true.
1378
00:57:46,697 --> 00:57:48,063
We can't find the plane,"
1379
00:57:48,065 --> 00:57:50,866
and, um...
1380
00:57:50,868 --> 00:57:52,768
that's how I found out.
1381
00:57:57,408 --> 00:57:58,774
For more than 40 years now,
1382
00:57:58,776 --> 00:58:00,342
the Kennedy family
1383
00:58:00,344 --> 00:58:03,479
has inspired Americans
to public service,
1384
00:58:03,481 --> 00:58:06,415
strengthened our faith
in the future,
1385
00:58:06,417 --> 00:58:09,551
and moved our nation forward.
1386
00:58:09,553 --> 00:58:13,622
Through it all,
they have suffered much,
1387
00:58:13,624 --> 00:58:15,357
and given more.
1388
00:58:28,939 --> 00:58:30,138
And someone comes up to me
1389
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:31,974
and said, "Oh, well, they found
some of the luggage
1390
00:58:31,976 --> 00:58:33,509
washed up on shore,"
1391
00:58:33,511 --> 00:58:35,477
and, you know, when they say
the stages of grief,
1392
00:58:35,479 --> 00:58:36,545
you know, denial,
1393
00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:37,813
I mean, I was, like,
definitely in denial.
1394
00:58:42,286 --> 00:58:43,986
Part of me,
in a very strange way,
1395
00:58:43,988 --> 00:58:45,721
was kind of mad at him
1396
00:58:45,723 --> 00:58:48,257
for getting himself
into the situation.
1397
00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:49,791
It just shouldn't
have happened.
1398
00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:51,527
And I have to say,
1399
00:58:51,529 --> 00:58:55,731
I immediately knew he was dead.
1400
00:58:55,733 --> 00:59:00,202
John Kennedy Jr.'s plane
was not going to go missing.
1401
00:59:14,952 --> 00:59:17,286
[♪♪♪]
1402
00:59:17,288 --> 00:59:19,721
[Chermayeff]:
The funeral here in the city
1403
00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:23,892
was very moving
and incredibly beautiful.
1404
00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:26,028
Once you went
inside the barriers,
1405
00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:29,831
which was however many blocks
around Park and Madison Avenue,
1406
00:59:29,833 --> 00:59:31,333
there was silence.
1407
00:59:31,335 --> 00:59:33,535
I remember looking down
1408
00:59:33,537 --> 00:59:35,671
and seeing Muhammad Ali
sitting on the end of one pew,
1409
00:59:35,673 --> 00:59:36,672
and I was like...
1410
00:59:36,674 --> 00:59:38,006
I smiled, you know?
1411
00:59:38,008 --> 00:59:39,174
I was like, "John,
1412
00:59:39,176 --> 00:59:40,909
you would have loved this,"
you know?
1413
00:59:40,911 --> 00:59:42,578
John liked a good show,
1414
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:45,514
and I think he would have
looked at it and said,
1415
00:59:45,516 --> 00:59:49,985
"I was treated
quite well here."
1416
00:59:49,987 --> 00:59:52,087
Maybe a few months later,
1417
00:59:52,089 --> 00:59:53,322
and I was with my daughter,
1418
00:59:53,324 --> 00:59:55,390
I think she had
just turned four,
1419
00:59:55,392 --> 00:59:58,026
and we were walking
in the backyard,
1420
00:59:58,028 --> 01:00:00,596
back in towards the house,
1421
01:00:00,598 --> 01:00:02,731
and she said, "Mama,
I had a dream last night.
1422
01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:05,968
I had a dream last night
that you were happy,
1423
01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:08,370
and you weren't
crying anymore,"
1424
01:00:08,372 --> 01:00:11,907
and I just looked at her,
and I thought, "Oh, my gosh,
1425
01:00:11,909 --> 01:00:14,643
I've just been crying
and crying and crying,"
1426
01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:19,181
so it was like,
"Well, maybe I've got to stop."
1427
01:00:19,183 --> 01:00:20,616
I don't know.
1428
01:00:20,618 --> 01:00:23,518
[Hare]: But I think
the world really missed out
1429
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,791
on a wonderful opportunity
to have a leader
1430
01:00:29,793 --> 01:00:34,329
with his head and his heart
in the right place.
1431
01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:37,499
[Barlow]: We talked
for a long time on the phone
1432
01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:39,901
about two weeks before he died.
1433
01:00:39,903 --> 01:00:43,205
I said, "Do you remember
that conversation we had
1434
01:00:43,207 --> 01:00:46,141
about being a good man?"
1435
01:00:46,143 --> 01:00:48,510
And he said, "Of course.
I think about it a lot,"
1436
01:00:48,512 --> 01:00:50,746
and I said, "Well,
I just want you to know
1437
01:00:50,748 --> 01:00:55,450
that you have wildly,
spectacularly,
1438
01:00:55,452 --> 01:00:59,621
achieved that objective.
1439
01:00:59,623 --> 01:01:04,326
I mean, you are
as good a man as I know.
1440
01:01:04,328 --> 01:01:07,496
You are as clear a case
1441
01:01:07,498 --> 01:01:11,867
of what I consider to be virtue
in an adult male
1442
01:01:11,869 --> 01:01:14,102
that I can think of."
1443
01:01:14,104 --> 01:01:18,006
That's not going to make
the cover of People magazine,
1444
01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:19,808
you know?
1445
01:01:19,810 --> 01:01:21,176
[chuckles]
1446
01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:23,979
"Galaxy's Most Virtuous Male"...
1447
01:01:23,981 --> 01:01:25,147
[laughs]
1448
01:01:25,149 --> 01:01:28,550
...doesn't somehow
have the same ring.
1449
01:01:28,552 --> 01:01:29,818
[laughing]
1450
01:01:31,121 --> 01:01:32,988
[Amanpour]:
I challenge anybody
1451
01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:37,359
to come up with any among us,
1452
01:01:37,361 --> 01:01:39,394
at that time,
and of his generation...
1453
01:01:42,666 --> 01:01:47,436
and say that
he wasn't a fine man.
1454
01:01:47,438 --> 01:01:53,208
I miss not having
that future to look forward to.
1455
01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:57,279
I believe that he had
greatness in him,
1456
01:01:57,281 --> 01:01:59,314
and I don't give a damn
1457
01:01:59,316 --> 01:02:02,317
if that meant
anything about politics.
1458
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:05,120
He cared about
doing things in the world.
1459
01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:06,722
He was unique
1460
01:02:06,724 --> 01:02:09,958
in terms of what he represented
in our culture,
1461
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,226
and that's gone,
1462
01:02:11,228 --> 01:02:12,594
and it has not been replaced,
1463
01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:15,030
and I don't think
it ever will be.
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