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Thank you. 9 00:00:34,502 --> 00:00:38,737 Ask not what your country can do for you. 10 00:00:38,839 --> 00:00:42,174 Ask what you can do for your country. 11 00:00:42,276 --> 00:00:43,942 Every degree of mind and spirit that I possess 12 00:00:44,045 --> 00:00:45,944 will be devoted 13 00:00:46,047 --> 00:00:48,313 to the long-range interests of the United States 14 00:00:48,416 --> 00:00:52,051 and to the cause of freedom around the world. 15 00:00:52,153 --> 00:00:53,952 [Sam Pate]: Just a moment, please. 16 00:00:54,055 --> 00:00:55,521 Something has happened in the motorcade route. 17 00:00:55,623 --> 00:00:57,256 Stand by, please. 18 00:00:57,358 --> 00:00:59,358 Parkland Hospital... there has been a shooting. 19 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,660 Parkland Hospital has been advised to stand by 20 00:01:01,762 --> 00:01:03,028 for a severe gunshot wound. 21 00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:05,631 The flash, apparently official, 22 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:07,666 President Kennedy died 23 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:10,903 at 1:00 p.m. Central Standard Time. 24 00:01:11,005 --> 00:01:15,174 [Bill Hampton]: The president of the United States is dead. 25 00:01:15,276 --> 00:01:17,743 I have just talked to Father Oscar Huber 26 00:01:17,845 --> 00:01:19,244 of the Holy Trinity Catholic Church. 27 00:01:19,346 --> 00:01:23,115 He and another priest tell me that the pair of men 28 00:01:23,217 --> 00:01:24,216 have just administered 29 00:01:24,318 --> 00:01:26,452 the last rites of the Catholic Church 30 00:01:26,554 --> 00:01:28,187 to President Kennedy. 31 00:01:28,289 --> 00:01:30,989 President Kennedy has been assassinated. 32 00:01:31,092 --> 00:01:33,625 It's official now. The president is dead. 33 00:01:39,366 --> 00:01:41,233 [Newsreel]: As the casket is returned to the caisson, 34 00:01:41,335 --> 00:01:44,002 there comes a family vignette that must take its place 35 00:01:44,105 --> 00:01:46,405 with those memories we hold warm and dear, 36 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:48,440 a gentle reminder from his mother, 37 00:01:48,542 --> 00:01:51,376 and John John celebrates his third birthday 38 00:01:51,479 --> 00:01:54,546 with a soldier's farewell to his father. 39 00:02:04,525 --> 00:02:07,359 It's easy for someone to say, "Well, I'm going to be me." 40 00:02:07,461 --> 00:02:08,227 Well, that's easy 41 00:02:08,329 --> 00:02:10,095 when nobody gives a damn who you are, 42 00:02:10,197 --> 00:02:12,998 but when somebody has definite ideas about you, 43 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:15,634 superlative ones, in John's case... 44 00:02:15,736 --> 00:02:16,802 "You'll be the greatest. 45 00:02:16,904 --> 00:02:18,003 You are the most handsome. 46 00:02:18,105 --> 00:02:19,338 You are royalty. 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,106 You are bound and destined for greatness. 48 00:02:21,208 --> 00:02:23,942 Do nothing normal. Do nothing pedestrian. 49 00:02:24,044 --> 00:02:26,145 You are better than that and everyone." 50 00:02:26,247 --> 00:02:28,113 That's not easy to have on your shoulders. 51 00:02:28,215 --> 00:02:30,315 He's the only person we've ever seen 52 00:02:30,417 --> 00:02:34,887 have that kind of greatness put upon him. 53 00:02:34,989 --> 00:02:35,988 In our culture, 54 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:37,923 where we don't recognize royalty, 55 00:02:38,025 --> 00:02:40,025 he was the closest thing we had to a crown prince. 56 00:02:40,127 --> 00:02:42,628 He was the heir, 57 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:48,433 the heir to the promise and to the challenge, 58 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:50,235 "Don't ask what your country can do for you. 59 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:53,539 Ask what you can do for your country." 60 00:02:53,641 --> 00:02:55,140 That salute of John Jr. 61 00:02:55,242 --> 00:02:58,810 is the first extraordinary celebrity moment 62 00:02:58,913 --> 00:03:00,612 in John Jr.'s life. 63 00:03:00,714 --> 00:03:03,081 From that moment on, his life was different. 64 00:03:03,184 --> 00:03:06,985 From the very beginning, you know, that little salute, 65 00:03:07,087 --> 00:03:09,988 he was under scrutiny and pressure. 66 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:12,191 I think John F. Kennedy Jr.'s salute 67 00:03:12,293 --> 00:03:15,527 is a defining moment in the American public, 68 00:03:15,629 --> 00:03:17,329 in their psyche, 69 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:20,732 that we're going to see more from this kid. 70 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:27,472 [Larry King]: Is it tough being a junior? 71 00:03:27,575 --> 00:03:28,874 I don't have a basis of comparison, so... 72 00:03:28,976 --> 00:03:29,875 I mean, are there ever days you say, 73 00:03:29,977 --> 00:03:31,910 "I wish my name were David"? 74 00:03:32,012 --> 00:03:33,879 No, I'm pretty happy with what it is. 75 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:36,915 It's complicated, 76 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:40,285 and it makes for a rich and complicated life, 77 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:43,589 but that's, I think, part of the puzzle 78 00:03:43,691 --> 00:03:44,756 to figure out in my life. 79 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:46,058 For me, it wasn't meeting 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,993 the little boy saluting the casket. 81 00:03:48,095 --> 00:03:49,995 I think for my mother, it would have been that. 82 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:51,797 For me, it was like, I mean, 83 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:54,666 he's, like, a hot New York bachelor. 84 00:03:54,768 --> 00:03:56,435 The first time I met him, 85 00:03:56,537 --> 00:03:58,637 I was working out in my gym in Tribeca, 86 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:03,175 and a mutual friend had brought him up there 87 00:04:03,277 --> 00:04:05,510 while I was working out, 88 00:04:05,613 --> 00:04:07,679 and so I was on the bike, and we shook hands. 89 00:04:07,781 --> 00:04:11,016 I was just fortunate enough to meet him and engage with him 90 00:04:11,118 --> 00:04:13,852 and go on just a minute 91 00:04:13,954 --> 00:04:16,321 of a cosmic-dust journey with him, 92 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:19,791 and it was pretty awesome. 93 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:21,627 You know, his tentacles, his love, 94 00:04:21,729 --> 00:04:23,762 it reaches out from the grave. It's still here now. 95 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:24,763 A Native American said 96 00:04:24,865 --> 00:04:25,831 that when somebody takes your picture, 97 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:26,765 you lose a piece of your soul. 98 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:29,234 How he retained his soul 99 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:32,638 after hundreds of thousands of pictures 100 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:34,740 is one of his greatest accomplishments. 101 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:42,948 He had a brilliant capacity 102 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:45,183 for getting people to quit looking 103 00:04:45,286 --> 00:04:50,455 at the balloon of himself that he was towing overhead, 104 00:04:50,557 --> 00:04:53,225 the sort of Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade-sized 105 00:04:53,327 --> 00:04:55,127 John F. Kennedy Jr. 106 00:04:55,229 --> 00:04:57,996 to the guy that was standing there 107 00:04:58,098 --> 00:04:59,698 who was remarkable in his own way 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,833 but was, you know, 109 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:03,568 put his pants on one leg at a time. 110 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:07,773 You know, one of the things 111 00:05:07,875 --> 00:05:09,074 that John tried to do throughout his life 112 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:11,910 was be his own man and go his own path. 113 00:05:12,012 --> 00:05:13,879 He obviously had the whole specter 114 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:17,182 of his presidential father and his very famous mother 115 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:19,418 and a family that was known for politics, 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,153 but, you know, John was very much his own man. 117 00:05:21,255 --> 00:05:23,221 He marched to his own beat. 118 00:05:23,324 --> 00:05:25,991 Like many sons of famous fathers, 119 00:05:26,093 --> 00:05:27,259 there's a legacy. 120 00:05:27,361 --> 00:05:29,561 There's sort of a big mountain to climb. 121 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:33,398 So I think he felt like he had to do something significant. 122 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,567 I mean, he couldn't just get a job. 123 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:39,504 [Barlow]: His being part of the Kennedy legacy, 124 00:05:39,606 --> 00:05:41,606 the really important thing to know about John 125 00:05:41,709 --> 00:05:42,541 in that regard 126 00:05:42,643 --> 00:05:44,242 was that he was not a Kennedy. 127 00:05:44,345 --> 00:05:45,644 He was a Bouvier. 128 00:05:56,523 --> 00:06:01,226 His mother was the guiding, shaping force in his life, 129 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:03,395 and he looked very much like her, 130 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:06,231 but he was also very much a Kennedy, 131 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:11,136 very devoted to his family, to the name, 132 00:06:11,238 --> 00:06:13,305 to the history, very, very much so. 133 00:06:13,407 --> 00:06:17,209 He couldn't separate himself from that legacy, 134 00:06:17,311 --> 00:06:18,577 and nor would he want to. 135 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:25,517 The process of separation 136 00:06:25,619 --> 00:06:29,988 becomes a problem for a presidential child. 137 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:36,561 Their greatest single challenge is to find a separate identity. 138 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:37,896 Who am I? 139 00:06:44,138 --> 00:06:46,304 He called me up one night, and he said, 140 00:06:46,407 --> 00:06:48,807 "I've been thinking a lot about great men, 141 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:49,641 and it occurs to me 142 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:51,977 that it would be kind of a cakewalk 143 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,879 for me to become a great man. 144 00:06:53,981 --> 00:06:57,783 I mean, everybody expects me to be a great man. 145 00:06:57,885 --> 00:06:59,484 I'm perfectly positioned. 146 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:03,422 You know, if I don't f*** up in some major way, 147 00:07:03,524 --> 00:07:04,823 I can just do it," 148 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:07,859 and he said, "But I've been reading a lot of biographies 149 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:11,329 of great men all the way through history, 150 00:07:11,432 --> 00:07:15,167 and I'm realizing that not one of them 151 00:07:15,269 --> 00:07:19,171 seems to have been a good guy at home. 152 00:07:19,273 --> 00:07:21,573 I mean, even Gandhi beat his family, 153 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:26,178 and, you know, and my father was no model, 154 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,580 and I wonder 155 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:30,916 if it wouldn't be a much more interesting challenge 156 00:07:31,018 --> 00:07:32,083 in my position 157 00:07:32,186 --> 00:07:34,319 to set out at this point 158 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:37,589 and see if I couldn't make myself a good man." 159 00:07:37,691 --> 00:07:39,191 And that was really paramount to him. 160 00:07:39,293 --> 00:07:40,225 He wanted to be good 161 00:07:40,327 --> 00:07:41,426 in his relationship with his wife. 162 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:44,129 That was really important. He wanted it to work. 163 00:07:44,231 --> 00:07:46,164 He wanted to be good in his relationship with his sister, 164 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:48,767 who was very important to him. 165 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:50,168 No schadenfreude at all. 166 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:51,536 He wanted his friends to succeed, 167 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,371 so I think John Perry Barlow's comment 168 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:54,606 about him wanting to be good 169 00:07:54,708 --> 00:07:57,375 is really important in understanding who John was. 170 00:07:57,478 --> 00:08:01,780 I also knew that pressures were about to enter his life 171 00:08:01,882 --> 00:08:04,416 in increasing force 172 00:08:04,518 --> 00:08:07,419 that would make sticking with that principle 173 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:10,956 an extremely hard thing to pull off 174 00:08:11,058 --> 00:08:13,391 because everybody in the world 175 00:08:13,494 --> 00:08:15,227 was going to be tugging at his sleeve. 176 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:19,431 People were going to treat him like a thing. 177 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:20,765 They already were. 178 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:23,768 It's difficult to maintain your goodness 179 00:08:23,871 --> 00:08:25,704 if you're being treated like a thing. 180 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:28,807 If you were to have a son, 181 00:08:28,909 --> 00:08:29,641 would you encourage 182 00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:31,243 a political career for him? 183 00:08:31,345 --> 00:08:32,377 I would, definitely. 184 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:33,778 I would hope he would grow up to be, 185 00:08:33,881 --> 00:08:35,380 if not a politician 186 00:08:35,482 --> 00:08:37,215 in the sense of devoting all of his time, 187 00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:38,783 I would hope that whatever he did do, 188 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:41,319 that he would have some sense of responsibility 189 00:08:41,421 --> 00:08:42,454 for what went on. 190 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:45,323 Over a quarter century ago, 191 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:47,459 my father stood before you 192 00:08:47,561 --> 00:08:49,895 to accept the nomination 193 00:08:49,997 --> 00:08:52,163 for the presidency of the United States. 194 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:53,765 [cheering] 195 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:57,802 In 1988, John introduced his uncle Teddy Kennedy 196 00:08:57,905 --> 00:09:00,238 to the Democratic National Convention. 197 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,107 The place went wild. 198 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:04,342 [cheering] 199 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:05,677 Thank you. 200 00:09:05,779 --> 00:09:09,614 There's a huge gravitational pull towards politics 201 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:11,550 because that's kind of what he... 202 00:09:11,652 --> 00:09:12,784 I mean, he was just such a natural at it. 203 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:16,588 John was smart enough to know "I'm Junior. 204 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:18,990 I'm not John F. Kennedy. I'm not my father." 205 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:20,959 He did this counter-culture. 206 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:22,027 He didn't want to be 207 00:09:22,129 --> 00:09:24,229 what everyone thought he should be or become, 208 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:25,864 and I thought that took a lot of balls. 209 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:28,466 Having people on him, fawn over him, 210 00:09:28,569 --> 00:09:30,635 since he was a little baby, 211 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:33,271 especially after what had happened, 212 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:35,307 so I liked that reserved thing about him. 213 00:09:35,409 --> 00:09:36,875 Easy to relate to. 214 00:09:36,977 --> 00:09:39,311 John really, for me, represented someone 215 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:41,613 who had every right to be a cynic 216 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:43,014 and decided to be a romantic. 217 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:47,586 Obviously, John, to everybody, was a very charismatic person, 218 00:09:47,688 --> 00:09:50,355 because of his name, because of his family, 219 00:09:50,457 --> 00:09:52,791 but also because of him. 220 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:55,794 He had this very attractive personality, 221 00:09:55,896 --> 00:09:59,397 part humble, part irreverent, 222 00:09:59,499 --> 00:10:02,534 very handsome, very energetic, 223 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:06,438 and people projected all their hopes and dreams 224 00:10:06,540 --> 00:10:08,607 on this son of this family. 225 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:11,242 You never thought of running for office? 226 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:12,277 That had to have come up 227 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:13,745 in some discussion somewhere. 228 00:10:13,847 --> 00:10:16,281 No, I mean, I've certainly thought about it, 229 00:10:16,383 --> 00:10:17,649 but I think that, you know, 230 00:10:17,751 --> 00:10:19,417 there is this great weight 231 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,419 of expectation and anticipation, 232 00:10:21,521 --> 00:10:22,921 and I think 233 00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:25,290 that part of you wants to sort of address that 234 00:10:25,392 --> 00:10:26,424 in some way 235 00:10:26,526 --> 00:10:27,592 and maybe do something different, 236 00:10:27,694 --> 00:10:30,562 and maybe, but just to sort of engage it. 237 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,731 Most people get into politics 238 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:36,368 for one of or a combination of three reasons. 239 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:37,969 It's for money, 240 00:10:38,071 --> 00:10:39,437 it's for power, 241 00:10:39,539 --> 00:10:40,972 or it's for fame. 242 00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:44,909 John had all three the day he was born. 243 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:52,017 In Georgetown, 244 00:10:52,019 --> 00:10:53,184 a hopeful crowd 245 00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:55,720 waits for a glimpse of John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr., 246 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:56,721 first baby to be, 247 00:10:56,723 --> 00:10:58,089 who is whisked by, 248 00:10:58,091 --> 00:11:00,992 heavily swaddled against the sub-freezing weather. 249 00:11:02,796 --> 00:11:05,697 One of the reasons Americans loved the Kennedys 250 00:11:05,699 --> 00:11:08,667 was because we didn't have this grandfather Eisenhower 251 00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:10,201 in the White House any longer. 252 00:11:10,203 --> 00:11:12,604 We had this young family. 253 00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:15,240 We had this beautiful young wife and mother. 254 00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:16,408 We had Caroline, 255 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:18,710 and, especially, we had John Jr. 256 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:23,848 We had this exciting, irascible little boy 257 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:26,651 running through the White House. 258 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:31,022 Jackie Kennedy 259 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:34,125 is an extraordinary figure in this story 260 00:11:34,127 --> 00:11:35,860 because she's very bright. 261 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:38,697 People think of her as young, and so young as First Lady, 262 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:40,498 that it hardly registers 263 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:43,735 that she was a very bright young lady, 264 00:11:43,737 --> 00:11:46,237 and she had done studies about presidential children. 265 00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:49,507 She was a bit of an expert before her time 266 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:52,277 on presidential children. 267 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:55,180 In fact, when the Clintons were elected president, 268 00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:58,216 one of the first things they did was brought in Jackie Kennedy 269 00:11:58,218 --> 00:12:01,619 and ask her advice. 270 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:02,821 [Leamer]: His mother understood 271 00:12:02,823 --> 00:12:05,890 the wages of celebrity, what celebrity does to you. 272 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:09,194 President Kennedy saw the advantages of celebrity... 273 00:12:09,196 --> 00:12:13,064 [speaking Spanish] 274 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:17,969 [cheering] 275 00:12:17,971 --> 00:12:19,771 Seeing the advantages of his beautiful wife, 276 00:12:19,773 --> 00:12:20,839 what that brought to him politically, 277 00:12:20,841 --> 00:12:24,242 and he saw the advantages of his children. 278 00:12:27,481 --> 00:12:29,013 We have those great photos 279 00:12:29,015 --> 00:12:31,449 of the kids scampering around the Oval Office. 280 00:12:31,451 --> 00:12:35,153 That was the president, who knew that "Jackie's not here," 281 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:38,389 and said to his secretary, "Go get the kids." 282 00:12:38,391 --> 00:12:39,791 So they brought them from the mansion 283 00:12:39,793 --> 00:12:40,859 over to the West Wing 284 00:12:40,861 --> 00:12:43,828 and had them scamper around the Oval Office, 285 00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:46,097 and we have those delightful pictures today. 286 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:50,368 They never would have happened on Jacqueline Kennedy's watch. 287 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:54,139 Instantly, John Jr. becomes a star. 288 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:55,673 He becomes part of the national fabric 289 00:12:55,675 --> 00:12:56,808 of our lives. 290 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,253 Here was this kid who was sort of America's kid... 291 00:13:08,255 --> 00:13:09,888 really, a part of royalty 292 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:11,289 in a country that doesn't have royalty. 293 00:13:13,794 --> 00:13:15,460 [Andersen]: If you called John's name in the White House, 294 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:17,562 as Jack often did, summoned him, 295 00:13:17,564 --> 00:13:19,230 he didn't come right away, 296 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:22,400 so often what you'd hear echoing down the White House halls 297 00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:25,770 was "John? John? John? John?" 298 00:13:25,772 --> 00:13:27,505 If you wanted to get under his skin, 299 00:13:27,507 --> 00:13:29,274 you'd say, "Listen, John John," 300 00:13:29,276 --> 00:13:31,342 and, you know, that would be the "argh." 301 00:13:57,838 --> 00:13:59,737 [Chermayeff]: He had a really, really nice relationship 302 00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:01,139 with his mom and his sister. 303 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:05,210 You know, I mean, his mother was incredibly gracious, 304 00:14:05,212 --> 00:14:08,313 but, as John said, she ran a tight ship. 305 00:14:08,315 --> 00:14:09,881 It was a little... 306 00:14:09,883 --> 00:14:13,551 It looked a little more free-flowing, you know, 307 00:14:13,553 --> 00:14:16,387 but she was actually very together, 308 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:19,090 and John was the kind of kid that needed a lot of assistance 309 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:22,193 getting his stuff together for a long time, 310 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:26,164 and probably really irritating in a lot of ways. 311 00:14:30,170 --> 00:14:32,103 [Barlow]: He was an amazing character. 312 00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:35,607 He could remember not only everybody's name, 313 00:14:35,609 --> 00:14:37,275 but everybody's dog's name, you know. 314 00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:42,513 He had a natural talent for being graceful. 315 00:14:42,515 --> 00:14:44,616 He had absolutely the best teacher in the world 316 00:14:44,618 --> 00:14:45,950 in his mother, 317 00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:48,253 and she passed that on seamlessly to him. 318 00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:52,924 [Chermayeff]: They adored each other, all of them, 319 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:55,760 Caroline and John and their mother. 320 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:03,835 I mean, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis 321 00:15:03,837 --> 00:15:06,104 still is, like... 322 00:15:06,106 --> 00:15:08,840 in the top five style icons that I can think of. 323 00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:11,276 I mean, she's referenced constantly in fashion. 324 00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:14,712 The media may overdo 325 00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:16,814 how perfectly classy and perfect she was, 326 00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:18,616 but she was classy. 327 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:19,817 She was. 328 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:21,419 She did dress 329 00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:24,722 in a tailored, appropriate, sophisticated manner. 330 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:27,825 Jackie Kennedy, to anybody from the outside, 331 00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:31,095 was this larger-than-life, iconic figure, 332 00:15:31,097 --> 00:15:34,098 made so particularly, obviously, 333 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,635 because of what she so publicly went through. 334 00:15:37,637 --> 00:15:41,639 The globalized grief and tragedy of the Kennedy assassination 335 00:15:41,641 --> 00:15:42,974 and the fact 336 00:15:42,976 --> 00:15:47,245 that this young, beautiful widow and mother was left... 337 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,985 Everyone in the world admired Jackie Kennedy. 338 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:56,220 Everybody imitated her. 339 00:15:56,222 --> 00:16:01,793 Everybody felt her pain and her sadness after 1963, 340 00:16:01,795 --> 00:16:04,595 and everybody watched those children 341 00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:06,965 as if they were their children. 342 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:18,977 This is a little boy, you know, 343 00:16:18,979 --> 00:16:21,479 born on Thanksgiving Day. 344 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,114 You know, his father 345 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:25,883 had been elected President of the United States. 346 00:16:25,885 --> 00:16:27,418 He barely knew his own father. 347 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:31,022 He lost him in the most violent and unacceptable of ways. 348 00:16:34,361 --> 00:16:35,360 For the five years 349 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:37,028 after Jack Kennedy's assassination, 350 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,329 Bobby Kennedy really functioned 351 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:42,867 as the father to John and Caroline. 352 00:16:45,205 --> 00:16:47,705 When Bobby was gunned down in 1968, 353 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:51,042 in a sense, John and Caroline lost their father a second time. 354 00:16:51,044 --> 00:16:53,277 Jackie was devastated. 355 00:16:59,686 --> 00:17:01,219 [Andersen]: She said, "They're killing Kennedys, 356 00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:04,155 and my children are the number-one target, 357 00:17:04,157 --> 00:17:06,324 and I'm basically out of here." 358 00:17:09,129 --> 00:17:12,163 And she married Aristotle Onassis. 359 00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:16,801 Aristotle Onassis was not only fabulously wealthy, 360 00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:20,038 but he also had a 75-man security force. 361 00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:28,279 It was a kind of a charmed life, in a sense, 362 00:17:28,281 --> 00:17:31,315 but, sadly, it didn't last for long. 363 00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:32,417 Onassis died 364 00:17:32,419 --> 00:17:35,019 six weeks after entering the American hospital here 365 00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:36,788 just outside of Paris. 366 00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:40,024 John's life, as we all know, was a very complicated life. 367 00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:42,527 His mother kept him and his sister 368 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:45,396 sort of away from a lot of the world, you know, 369 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:47,532 and a lot of it was driven by security concerns. 370 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:49,167 You know, in the beginning, 371 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:51,335 he really kind of needed a father 372 00:17:51,337 --> 00:17:54,605 that wasn't a Secret Service agent. 373 00:17:54,607 --> 00:17:57,442 [Andersen]: In search of a strong male figure, 374 00:17:57,444 --> 00:17:58,943 Jackie had heard of a fellow named John Perry Barlow, 375 00:17:58,945 --> 00:18:00,878 who was a kind of a free spirit 376 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,847 who wrote songs for the Grateful Dead 377 00:18:02,849 --> 00:18:04,949 and owned a ranch in Wyoming. 378 00:18:04,951 --> 00:18:06,184 [Barlow chuckles] 379 00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:07,318 It was fairly late in the evening. 380 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,287 I was sitting at the galactic headquarters 381 00:18:09,289 --> 00:18:12,423 of the Bar Cross Land and Livestock Company 382 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,860 in Cora, Wyoming. 383 00:18:15,862 --> 00:18:18,062 I get this breathy voice on the phone 384 00:18:18,064 --> 00:18:21,265 that says, "Hi, this is Jacqueline Onassis," 385 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,935 and I said, "Well, in the highly unlikely event 386 00:18:23,937 --> 00:18:25,603 that this isn't some kind of a joke, 387 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:27,205 what can I do for you?" 388 00:18:27,207 --> 00:18:30,341 Two days later, he was on the ranch. 389 00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:31,943 He always talked about Barlow. 390 00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:33,211 You know, "Barlow this, Barlow that." 391 00:18:33,213 --> 00:18:36,280 He was sort of this legendary figure in John's life. 392 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:43,054 [♪♪♪] 393 00:18:43,056 --> 00:18:45,223 [Wiese]: You know, when John enrolled at Brown University, 394 00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:47,258 it was, you know, pretty big news. 395 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:49,460 Brown didn't have 396 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:51,729 a Kennedy school of this or that, 397 00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:53,564 or a Kennedy library, 398 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,300 and I think he probably liked a little of that anonymity. 399 00:18:58,104 --> 00:18:59,704 You know, you'd walk around a football game 400 00:18:59,706 --> 00:19:01,472 with, you know, a sign saying, you know, 401 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:04,709 "Party after the game at Phi Psi," 402 00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:09,480 and when John joined the frat, it went from advertising 403 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,383 to restricting people from coming in. 404 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:14,418 You know, we started getting lines out the door. 405 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:15,720 At a certain level, 406 00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:17,421 as much as I could relate to John, 407 00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:18,923 there's very few people on this earth 408 00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:20,291 who could relate 409 00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:21,826 to how he grew up 410 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,095 and what was normal to him. 411 00:19:24,097 --> 00:19:26,130 He had been at a Rolling Stones concert, 412 00:19:26,132 --> 00:19:27,765 and he might have even had, you know, 413 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:29,233 Keith Richards' guitar. 414 00:19:29,235 --> 00:19:30,835 I thought, you know, "Let's face it. 415 00:19:30,837 --> 00:19:31,836 Most college students, 416 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,171 they just sort of connive 417 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:34,438 their way into a concert. 418 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,773 You know, most people 419 00:19:35,775 --> 00:19:37,909 aren't going to be backstage with the Stones." 420 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:40,278 One night, you know, he took me out reveling 421 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,280 with Hunter S. Thompson. 422 00:19:42,282 --> 00:19:43,514 Can you imagine? 423 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:46,317 With John Kennedy, Hunter S. Thompson, 424 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,352 and I'm in this fabulous bar, 425 00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:51,289 but I knew that this was special, 426 00:19:51,291 --> 00:19:53,124 and maybe John would go on to something else. 427 00:19:53,126 --> 00:19:55,326 So I said to him, "So, John, 428 00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:57,228 do you want to be president one day?" 429 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,629 and he said, "Shut up, Kissy." 430 00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:03,701 He just didn't entertain us going into that area. 431 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:05,236 [Andersen]: You know, Jackie also felt 432 00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:08,206 that he had a destiny to fulfill, 433 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:09,607 and part of that destiny 434 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,475 would involve his going to law school. 435 00:20:11,477 --> 00:20:13,177 John F. Kennedy's going to find out soon 436 00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:15,613 if all that cramming he did has paid off. 437 00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:18,983 He began taking his New York bar exams 438 00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:21,552 The son of the late president will have to pass this time 439 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,322 if he wants to hold onto his $30,000-a-year job 440 00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:25,523 as an assistant D.A. 441 00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:27,358 I think when I was running for Congress, 442 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,161 and one time I got bad press on something, 443 00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:31,596 and he sort of laughed at me and he said, 444 00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:33,130 "You have no idea what bad press is 445 00:20:33,132 --> 00:20:36,334 until you're on the front page of the New York Post ." 446 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:40,838 Slow news day, I guess, huh? 447 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,007 John, a lot of people waiting for you here. 448 00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:44,208 How do you feel about... 449 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:45,276 Is it true that you passed the bar? 450 00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,644 Uh, apparently it's true. 451 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:48,679 I got the official word not long ago, so it's true. 452 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:49,814 What do you mean, "not long ago?" 453 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:50,815 Just a few minutes ago? 454 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:51,682 I got the word. 455 00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:52,650 That's really all that's important. 456 00:20:52,652 --> 00:20:54,118 What many people don't know 457 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,088 is that John had a reading disability, 458 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:58,022 and you're supposed to get more time 459 00:20:58,024 --> 00:20:59,590 on the bar exam. 460 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:02,226 He wouldn't take more time on the bar exam 461 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,327 because he thought people would think 462 00:21:03,329 --> 00:21:05,930 that he was getting special favor, 463 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,065 and that was a mistake for him, 464 00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:09,400 but that was part of being John. 465 00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:11,435 I'm looking forward to doing some good things here, 466 00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:12,570 and I'm glad it's behind me. 467 00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:13,571 Are you going to stay here 468 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:14,572 in the D.A.'s office? 469 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,674 Sure. Absolutely. 470 00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,109 What kind of cases are you looking forward to? 471 00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:19,343 Whatever they give me. 472 00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:20,511 [Coulter]: I think it's sort of unfair, 473 00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:23,214 the business about him failing the New York bar exam. 474 00:21:23,216 --> 00:21:25,349 For one thing, Hillary Clinton failed it, 475 00:21:25,351 --> 00:21:27,251 and all I hear about is how brilliant she is, 476 00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:28,452 but, moreover, 477 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,888 the bar exam is something you do have to study for. 478 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:32,223 It isn't an IQ test. 479 00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:33,491 It's learning specific knowledge, 480 00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:34,492 and here he is, you know, 481 00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:35,526 the sexiest man in the universe, 482 00:21:35,528 --> 00:21:38,095 according to People magazine. 483 00:21:38,097 --> 00:21:39,563 He's young, he's single. 484 00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,265 How much studying was he doing? 485 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,000 You can imagine, among friends, 486 00:21:43,002 --> 00:21:45,469 some of the ribbing he would have, you know, got. 487 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,872 It was like, "John, does that mean sexiest ever?" 488 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,107 I mean, we used to tease him. "Qualify for it." 489 00:21:50,109 --> 00:21:51,409 It turned out to be a really great way 490 00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:54,245 to take the piss out of him. [laughs] 491 00:21:54,247 --> 00:21:57,081 "Oh, do I have the sexiest man in the galaxy on the phone?" 492 00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,916 [chuckles] 493 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,251 [Cuomo]: Did he like to have his shirt off a lot? 494 00:22:00,253 --> 00:22:01,385 Yeah, sure, he did. 495 00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:03,654 I would too, if I looked like that guy. 496 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,289 Of course, it's easy to deal with women 497 00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:09,293 when you are People magazine's sexiest human in the universe. 498 00:22:09,295 --> 00:22:11,529 [laughs] 499 00:22:11,531 --> 00:22:12,897 Just smile. We'll do whatever you want. 500 00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:15,599 [laughs] 501 00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:17,168 He certainly was a hand with the ladies. 502 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:18,202 [laughs] 503 00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,904 No question about that. 504 00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,605 [Chermayeff]: None of those were very serious. 505 00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:24,642 They made a lot out of that stuff, you know. 506 00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:26,811 Sarah Jessica Parker and John 507 00:22:26,813 --> 00:22:29,280 had, you know, no relationship, really, 508 00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:30,581 not really, 509 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:32,149 and Madonna, not really. 510 00:22:32,151 --> 00:22:34,852 Like, maybe one night. Sorry. 511 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:36,787 Who knows, maybe more. What do I know? 512 00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:41,759 John really was a serial monogamist, 513 00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:43,928 in spite of the fact that it was very difficult 514 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:47,498 for his girlfriends to believe that, 515 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,301 because he was under a continuous barrage 516 00:22:50,303 --> 00:22:51,369 of other opportunities. 517 00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:53,170 The actress Daryl Hannah, the star of... 518 00:22:53,172 --> 00:22:56,240 At that time, she was best-known for the movie Splash , 519 00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:58,342 but she was in John's circle 520 00:22:58,344 --> 00:22:59,610 because she came 521 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:02,413 from a very wealthy family of Democratic donors, 522 00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:03,948 but in 1988, the same year 523 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:04,982 that he was on the cover 524 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:07,718 of the People M agazine's "The Sexiest Man Alive," 525 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,353 they began a relationship, 526 00:23:09,355 --> 00:23:10,688 and this was a serious relationship 527 00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:12,556 that lasted five years. 528 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:16,060 They are the fun couple of '93, a paparazzi's dream. 529 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:19,463 John F. Kennedy Jr. and actress Daryl Hannah 530 00:23:19,465 --> 00:23:21,332 are traveling the world these days. 531 00:23:21,334 --> 00:23:23,033 I know that, while they were together, 532 00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:27,071 you know, John had a lot of concern for her, 533 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:29,840 that she understood celebrity and attention 534 00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:33,344 in a way that, you know, other women could not. 535 00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:35,246 This is the JFK special spotter version. 536 00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:36,714 You probably can get him 537 00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:38,949 at the length of two football fields easily with this. 538 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:42,686 I never have seen anyone get reactions the way he did. 539 00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:45,322 Not the biggest rock star, not the biggest movie star, 540 00:23:45,324 --> 00:23:48,259 because he wasn't an entertainer. 541 00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:50,394 He was the real deal. 542 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:52,630 He was the living legacy 543 00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:55,499 of the closest thing to greatness 544 00:23:55,501 --> 00:23:56,967 a big slice of this country 545 00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:59,703 thought that we had ever experienced in a leader. 546 00:23:59,705 --> 00:24:01,472 That's what Kennedy was. 547 00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:03,040 I remember watching, 548 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:07,044 in sort of a combination of horror and awe, 549 00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:10,981 the way men and women threw themselves at him, 550 00:24:10,983 --> 00:24:13,217 Even if they physically weren't throwing themselves at him, 551 00:24:13,219 --> 00:24:15,519 they were emotionally throwing themselves at him. 552 00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:16,687 People would come up to him 553 00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:19,223 and you could see them just shedding IQ points 554 00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:22,159 as they approached. 555 00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:24,895 ...the closer they got, the dumber they were. 556 00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:26,730 You knew that they'd been pretty bright 557 00:24:26,732 --> 00:24:28,132 over here someplace, 558 00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:31,769 but by the time they got there, they were just dumb as bait. 559 00:24:31,771 --> 00:24:33,070 When People magazine came out, 560 00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:37,541 that was somewhat of a dividing line in his life. 561 00:24:37,543 --> 00:24:39,910 You know, he was a single guy in New York City. 562 00:24:39,912 --> 00:24:43,147 He wasn't being treated as, you know, 563 00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:45,483 the son of a slain president 564 00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:48,452 or, you know, son of Jacqueline Onassis. 565 00:24:48,454 --> 00:24:49,820 At this point, I think, with the press, 566 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:54,024 they felt that everything was fair game. 567 00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:56,627 That happened to John, like, every day, 568 00:24:56,629 --> 00:24:58,162 everywhere he went, 569 00:24:58,164 --> 00:25:01,332 and even in the biggest city in America, 570 00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:04,502 you could see, walking on Broadway, 571 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:05,803 "pop, pop, pop." 572 00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:07,438 That doesn't happen to normal people. 573 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,039 That doesn't even happen to most actors. 574 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,242 [♪♪♪] 575 00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:25,022 Another layer of John's charm was that he was a New Yorker. 576 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:27,625 Welcome to the premiere of Heart of the City . 577 00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:29,260 Hello. I'm John Kennedy. 578 00:25:29,262 --> 00:25:32,162 There are few places on Earth 579 00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:35,733 more fascinating, exciting, or glamorous than New York City. 580 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:36,967 He loved this city. 581 00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:39,236 He loved everything about it. 582 00:25:39,238 --> 00:25:41,138 [Oberbeck]: You know, he was on 1040 Fifth Avenue, 583 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,975 which is right across the street from the Met, 584 00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:47,278 and so the Met became his playground. 585 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,746 So we played Frisbee right in front of the Met 586 00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:50,014 because there were lights. 587 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,382 You know, it had a little more lights than normal, 588 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:54,451 so we'd be playing Frisbee right across Fifth Avenue, 589 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,854 you'd sort of bounce it off a taxi windshield, 590 00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:58,889 and try and, you know, curve it to each other. 591 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,891 He loved New York. New York offered him 592 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:04,495 the right combination of anonymity 593 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:06,830 and... and hugs. 594 00:26:06,832 --> 00:26:07,998 You know, it's the energy of the city. 595 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,033 It's the vibrance. 596 00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:11,468 John, if nothing else, 597 00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:15,539 was an incredibly vibrant, energetic person. 598 00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:16,607 The guy was peripatetic. 599 00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:18,809 He could not sit still. 600 00:26:18,811 --> 00:26:21,078 Rollerblades were the biggest thing 601 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,980 that ever happened in John's life, I think, 602 00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:24,949 because he could really go like a bat out of hell 603 00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,183 on rollerblades. 604 00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:28,118 He was like some kind of a superhero. 605 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,955 Funny thing about John was that, you know, 606 00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:33,757 despite the six-pack abs and the great physique, 607 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,026 which he certainly had, 608 00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:38,529 and he worked hard for and he deserved, 609 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:40,531 he was not a great athlete, 610 00:26:40,533 --> 00:26:43,734 despite all the pictures you see or films you see 611 00:26:43,736 --> 00:26:46,170 of him playing football in Central Park. 612 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:47,538 [Ginsberg]: He was terrible at touch football. 613 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,641 He played it with such intensity and seriousness, 614 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:52,710 but, you know they say there's go-to receivers? 615 00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:55,446 John was not a go-to receiver. 616 00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:58,582 Every moment with John was an adventure. 617 00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:03,320 You know, "Let's go camping. Let's go rock climbing." 618 00:27:03,322 --> 00:27:05,689 We kayaked out into the middle of the Hudson 619 00:27:05,691 --> 00:27:08,092 in the middle of the night, 620 00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:11,295 which is, in and of itself, is an incredible experience. 621 00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:14,698 We would take the subway together uptown. 622 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,534 You know, he was a regular guy. 623 00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:20,971 He wanted to be treated like everyone else. 624 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,940 One thing he kept doing in New York City, 625 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,842 he rode a bike around. 626 00:27:24,844 --> 00:27:26,577 He wouldn't lock it, and it was, like, 627 00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:29,980 "The world must know this is John Kennedy's bike," right? 628 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,281 Of course nobody will steal it. 629 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,083 Well, it would get stolen within minutes. 630 00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,819 I don't know how many bikes he lost. 631 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,488 In New York City. 632 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:40,324 Here was a guy that everybody knew his whole story, 633 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,426 and you'd see him, like, you'd see him ride his bike. 634 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,028 You'd get a glimpse, and it was kind of like 635 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:45,529 seeing Santa Claus or something. 636 00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:46,697 You'd be like, "Yeah, I just saw Kennedy!" 637 00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:53,904 And he managed to navigate this really abnormal... 638 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:58,208 aura that was around him and thrust upon him, 639 00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:01,979 and, I think, be a very normal boy despite it all, 640 00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:04,014 and I do put that down to his mother, 641 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:07,885 who was an amazing force in his life. 642 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:10,220 I remember one day going with him, 643 00:28:10,222 --> 00:28:11,321 you know, to the house, 644 00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:12,523 you know, knock knock knock on the door. 645 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:15,426 His mum answered the door, and I remember her saying, 646 00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:17,227 "Oh, angel." 647 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,229 She called him "angel" sometimes, 648 00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:21,532 and it was just so from the heart. 649 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:24,001 She loved him to bits. 650 00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:26,236 And he was one of the few adult males 651 00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,272 who was still very much attentive 652 00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:30,074 to his mother's expectations. 653 00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:33,777 It mattered to him to make his mother proud. 654 00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:42,119 When I first heard the news that Jackie was sick 655 00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:44,054 and she had lymphoma, 656 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:48,559 I was so sad, so, so, so sad, 657 00:28:48,561 --> 00:28:52,296 and I immediately called up, and I just wanted to... 658 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:54,231 just say that I was thinking of her 659 00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,100 and, you know, praying for her. 660 00:28:56,102 --> 00:28:58,535 She said, you know, 661 00:28:58,537 --> 00:29:00,904 "It's all right. This is the good kind. 662 00:29:00,906 --> 00:29:03,140 We can beat this kind." 663 00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,576 [Andersen]: She says she's gonna fight this, 664 00:29:05,578 --> 00:29:07,811 and she does. 665 00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:09,446 There's chemotherapy, surgery, 666 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,715 and throughout it all, John is by her side. 667 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:17,154 John called me and said, "Mummy's coming home. 668 00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:18,522 She wants to be at home, 669 00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:22,893 and there's nothing more to be done." 670 00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:25,662 I said, "Okay, I'm coming. I'm coming." 671 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,565 So I got on a plane and I came to New York, 672 00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:32,569 and, on a human level, there's nothing else to say. 673 00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:36,106 It was a very big tragedy, a personal tragedy. 674 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,776 Somebody's mum was dying. 675 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,415 Losing his mother was intensely personal for him, 676 00:29:45,417 --> 00:29:47,785 but, again, with everything else in his life, 677 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:51,021 there were these added layers of significance to it. 678 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:52,322 Jackie O was sick, 679 00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:56,193 and that meant something in American culture. 680 00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:57,895 He had to process all that 681 00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:01,198 and deal with all this publicity. 682 00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:04,434 John! John! 683 00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:07,171 [Amanpour]: Oh, my God. 684 00:30:07,173 --> 00:30:09,139 Can you imagine? 685 00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:10,507 How do you live like this? 686 00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:12,042 How did Caroline live like this? 687 00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:13,911 How did John live like this? 688 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,379 How did Jackie live like this? 689 00:30:15,381 --> 00:30:18,248 How do you live like this? 690 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,350 I just never forgave 691 00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:22,519 individuals or members of the press 692 00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:24,721 who didn't have the decency, 693 00:30:24,723 --> 00:30:28,458 especially in the worst, most painful, 694 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:31,161 most personal, most private moments, 695 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,130 to give them a little space. 696 00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:35,165 I found it... 697 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:37,067 I found it grotesque, 698 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,269 especially when they have given you 699 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:42,739 the courtesy of their best and their most polite selves. 700 00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,713 I can't talk about what happened inside that room 701 00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,048 or inside that apartment. 702 00:30:51,050 --> 00:30:53,684 It's private, but just to say 703 00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:56,720 that she was surrounded by her family, her friends, 704 00:30:56,722 --> 00:30:58,188 and a huge amount of love. 705 00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:01,124 Last night, around 10:15, um... 706 00:31:01,126 --> 00:31:03,527 my mother passed on. 707 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:06,964 She was surrounded by her friends and her family 708 00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:09,466 and her books, uh, 709 00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,635 and the people and the things that she loved, 710 00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:14,538 and she did it in her own way, on her own terms, 711 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:18,342 and, uh... and we all feel lucky for that, 712 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,345 and now she's in God's hands. 713 00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:24,248 John handled death better than anybody I knew. 714 00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,216 He lost... 715 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:29,419 You know, he lost cousins, he lost parents, 716 00:31:29,421 --> 00:31:34,091 and he was incredibly unemotional. 717 00:31:34,093 --> 00:31:35,425 Not that he didn't feel it, 718 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:38,328 but externally was able to hold it together 719 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:39,963 better than anybody I knew. 720 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:41,531 I remember saying, "John, how the hell do you do it?" 721 00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:45,702 Thank you all very much, and have a good afternoon. 722 00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:47,337 Sorry, John... 723 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:50,674 And he said, "You know, I just learned from my family. 724 00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,643 You just don't wallow in death. 725 00:31:52,645 --> 00:31:56,079 You move on. You hold it inside." 726 00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,848 [♪♪♪] 727 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:14,131 Her last letter to her son included the admonition 728 00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:17,601 "You especially have a place in history," 729 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:21,505 and this was a real departure for her... 730 00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:28,145 Putting any kind of pressure on him at all, 731 00:32:28,147 --> 00:32:33,784 which she avoided, she studiously avoided. 732 00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:34,751 She knew in her heart 733 00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:38,622 that someday the stars are going to line up 734 00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:41,024 and he's going to be President, 735 00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:42,759 and the money will be there, 736 00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:44,962 the mood of the nation will be there, 737 00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:46,530 the polls will be there, 738 00:32:46,532 --> 00:32:48,332 the country will be ready for it, 739 00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:49,933 and he will be President... 740 00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:57,274 [JFK]: We choose to go to the moon in this decade 741 00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,076 and do the other things 742 00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:02,012 not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 743 00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:06,183 [Amanpour]: This is the family that envisioned... 744 00:33:06,185 --> 00:33:08,085 a man on the moon. 745 00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,787 This is the family that started the Peace Corps. 746 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:11,655 Didn't you feel 747 00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:12,856 an enormous amount of pressure, 748 00:33:12,858 --> 00:33:15,192 you know, following in your father's footsteps? 749 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:16,626 In your mother's? 750 00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:18,695 No, I mean, it was more a thing of having, 751 00:33:18,697 --> 00:33:20,497 you know, a fulfilling life, 752 00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:23,967 and then the other stuff takes care of itself. 753 00:33:23,969 --> 00:33:25,435 It's a complex thing, right? 754 00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:26,503 You have this legacy. 755 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,605 It's clear. You can't ignore it. 756 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,108 It has great privileges that come along with it. 757 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:33,543 It has very difficult things that come along with it. 758 00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:35,612 There's a lot of pressure, 759 00:33:35,614 --> 00:33:37,948 and yet he had enough confidence 760 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:41,618 to sort of want to live out his own life, 761 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,620 but he didn't want to let anybody down. 762 00:33:43,622 --> 00:33:45,655 I mean, yes, it was a complicated thing 763 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:49,426 just to be that son of that fallen idol. 764 00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:53,463 We're used to a certain degree of being watched, 765 00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:55,532 and I think that you're aware of it 766 00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:58,802 even if you're not consciously aware of it. 767 00:33:58,804 --> 00:33:59,636 Just obsession. 768 00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:00,737 Well, is that what it is? 769 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:01,638 Yeah. 770 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,773 You know, it's given both of us 771 00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:03,840 great opportunities. 772 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,443 You know, guys like him, the people make you a king. 773 00:34:06,445 --> 00:34:10,781 He's the uncrowned king, with king privileges, 774 00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:12,983 and he didn't want 'em. [laughs] 775 00:34:19,691 --> 00:34:21,258 As he got older, you know, 776 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,560 the edge started to come in. 777 00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,228 Like, okay, what are you going to do now? 778 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,497 How are you going to leave 779 00:34:27,499 --> 00:34:31,902 the iconic image that we all had of you 780 00:34:31,904 --> 00:34:35,739 and become John Kennedy who you are? 781 00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,607 What's your personality? What are you going to do? 782 00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:38,875 What are you going to accomplish? 783 00:34:38,877 --> 00:34:43,180 It took him a while to figure out what he wanted to do, 784 00:34:43,182 --> 00:34:44,281 and, you know, frankly, 785 00:34:44,283 --> 00:34:46,383 I don't think that really happened 786 00:34:46,385 --> 00:34:47,851 until he did George . 787 00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:49,586 Are you in the market for a magazine 788 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,022 devoted solely to politics? 789 00:34:52,024 --> 00:34:53,557 Big yawn, right? 790 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:54,758 Now, if I tell you 791 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,260 John Kennedy Jr. is the man behind the enterprise, 792 00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:58,395 what happens? 793 00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:01,431 They just had no idea what to expect, 794 00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,567 and we kept it really secret. 795 00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:06,670 Ladies and gentlemen, meet George . 796 00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:08,305 [Berman]: The cover 797 00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:10,107 was the cover everyone was waiting for. 798 00:35:10,109 --> 00:35:11,842 [applause] 799 00:35:11,844 --> 00:35:14,711 Watching John Kennedy Jr. present me as "George" 800 00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:16,680 for his inaugural issue, 801 00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:18,482 I thought that was pretty cool. 802 00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:19,716 [Hare]: Cindy Crawford 803 00:35:19,718 --> 00:35:21,618 dressed up as George Washington. 804 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,019 Of course! I mean, Cindy Crawford 805 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:26,156 was probably the hottest model in the world. 806 00:35:26,158 --> 00:35:27,491 "No problem. 807 00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:30,160 No problem. We'll get Cindy Crawford. 808 00:35:30,162 --> 00:35:31,595 No problem." 809 00:35:31,597 --> 00:35:32,662 [Berman]: She's, like, a businesswoman, 810 00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:36,233 women like her, she's hot, men like her, 811 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:37,801 she's American, she's beautiful." 812 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,971 I didn't really know the concept or anything, 813 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:42,873 because it was John Kennedy Jr.'s new magazine. 814 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:46,209 I think we shoved a sock down my, um, trousers, 815 00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:50,180 and I literally had the balls to become George Washington. 816 00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:52,315 And I remember those magazines. They were sexy. 817 00:35:52,317 --> 00:35:53,917 It was like, Cindy Crawford, you know, 818 00:35:53,919 --> 00:35:55,552 with the George Washington wig. 819 00:35:55,554 --> 00:35:58,054 George Clooney, I remember, as one of the covers. 820 00:35:58,056 --> 00:35:59,823 I mean, it was like... It was a cool magazine. 821 00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,091 [De Niro]: He asked me to do it. 822 00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:04,394 If I could be of some help getting the magazine started, 823 00:36:04,396 --> 00:36:05,695 as it was my understanding, 824 00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:07,330 I said, "Let me do it. Sure." 825 00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:09,432 Politics isn't dry, 826 00:36:09,434 --> 00:36:10,567 it isn't dull, 827 00:36:10,569 --> 00:36:12,669 so why should a magazine that covers it be? 828 00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:15,739 Mixing politics and pop culture, 829 00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,241 and celebrating politics, 830 00:36:18,243 --> 00:36:20,143 and boy I was drawn to that. 831 00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:23,880 [Terenzio]: George was 832 00:36:23,882 --> 00:36:24,915 a place where John could be John. 833 00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:26,516 There was no legacy, there was no... 834 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,518 I mean, he was certainly, like, you know, 835 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,453 everyone's mentor, 836 00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:31,621 and everybody wanted to be around him, 837 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:32,722 but it wasn't-- 838 00:36:32,724 --> 00:36:34,457 it was a situation where he could be himself 839 00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:35,458 and he could be really comfortable. 840 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:37,327 A magazine is very organic, you know? 841 00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:38,395 It has to be. 842 00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:39,729 You get kind of a weird chemistry 843 00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:40,931 with the people that you work with, 844 00:36:40,933 --> 00:36:44,467 and it's a very personal expression. 845 00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:46,169 You know, he kind of breaks that barrier 846 00:36:46,171 --> 00:36:50,907 between a celebrity and a regular person. 847 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,342 You're walking to the men's room, 848 00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:55,145 and he wrestles you up against the wall, you know, 849 00:36:55,147 --> 00:36:56,646 because he could see maybe you were a little uptight 850 00:36:56,648 --> 00:36:57,714 or something, 851 00:36:57,716 --> 00:37:02,452 and he... right away, he took that away. 852 00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:05,822 We did this issue called, um, "Rebels and Revolutionaries," 853 00:37:05,824 --> 00:37:08,024 and so we had all these celebrities 854 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,860 signed up to be various rebels in history, 855 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:13,029 like Abbie Hoffman or Rosa Parks, 856 00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:15,031 and people who stood up for something, 857 00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:18,134 and who was playing Rosa Parks was Whoopi Goldberg, 858 00:37:18,136 --> 00:37:19,603 and he sneaks on to the bus, 859 00:37:19,605 --> 00:37:21,471 and we're all just-- keep working, 860 00:37:21,473 --> 00:37:23,273 we were just kind of in the moment, 861 00:37:23,275 --> 00:37:24,608 and the photographer's snapping, 862 00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:26,676 and John goes up to her, and he hadn't met her, 863 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,912 and he goes, 864 00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:31,181 Would you mind going to the back of the bus?" 865 00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:33,049 and she...[laughs] ...she just cracks up. 866 00:37:33,051 --> 00:37:35,952 She goes, "Not a chance, buddy," she goes, you know? 867 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:37,554 [JFK Jr.]: You have to leaven the political dialogue 868 00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:40,490 with funny stuff and light stuff, 869 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,758 so we may talk about the budget, 870 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,128 we may talk about, you know, Hillary's hairstylist, 871 00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:48,131 and somewhere in that mix is, hopefully, 872 00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:49,666 an interesting read. 873 00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:50,934 [Ginsberg]: George , more than anything, 874 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,036 reflected John's personality. 875 00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:55,238 It was... fun. 876 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,174 It was mischievous... 877 00:37:58,176 --> 00:38:02,178 Colorful, unconventional. 878 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,213 He thought politics 879 00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:05,682 was too important to be left to the politicians. 880 00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:07,050 [Bill Clinton]: I have accepted responsibility 881 00:38:07,052 --> 00:38:10,053 for what I did wrong in my personal life, 882 00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:13,757 and I have invited members of Congress 883 00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:17,460 to work with us to find a reasonable, bipartisan, 884 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,430 and proportionate response. 885 00:38:20,432 --> 00:38:21,698 I was so deep in the impeachment. 886 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,732 I was working at the White House, 887 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:23,933 and I was on the impeachment team... 888 00:38:25,304 --> 00:38:26,903 and there was a moment... 889 00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:28,171 I'm sitting in my office, 890 00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:29,005 I had a private fax, 891 00:38:29,007 --> 00:38:30,440 and the thing starts whirring, 892 00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:33,310 and it spits out a one-page note, 893 00:38:33,312 --> 00:38:34,844 hand written. 894 00:38:34,846 --> 00:38:39,282 It says, "Dear Mr. President, 895 00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:40,850 I've been under that desk. 896 00:38:40,852 --> 00:38:42,952 There's barely room for a three-year-old, 897 00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:46,389 much less a 22-year-old intern. 898 00:38:46,391 --> 00:38:48,425 Cheers, JK." 899 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:51,795 I have to say I took that thing into the Oval Office, 900 00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:53,430 and Bill Clinton laughed so hard, 901 00:38:53,432 --> 00:38:55,131 tears... It was a great release. 902 00:38:55,133 --> 00:38:56,066 It was a great moment. 903 00:38:56,068 --> 00:38:58,301 But being able to see the absurdity 904 00:38:58,303 --> 00:39:01,137 in a constitutional crisis, 905 00:39:01,139 --> 00:39:02,906 and also to sort of playfully mock 906 00:39:02,908 --> 00:39:05,775 one of the iconic images of his life, 907 00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:07,510 was pretty amazing. 908 00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,511 It was a witch hunt, it was, 909 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:09,646 and it was a time of witches, 910 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,581 and I just don't think John was really interested 911 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,016 in setting people on fire 912 00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:14,784 because of their sexual peccadilloes. 913 00:39:14,786 --> 00:39:17,287 What we've tried to do with our writing is that... 914 00:39:17,289 --> 00:39:20,590 our writers, is to really bring a sensibility 915 00:39:20,592 --> 00:39:22,225 to the coverage of politics 916 00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,193 that is different 917 00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:26,162 than conventional political magazines. 918 00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:27,230 He believed 919 00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:28,765 that if you wanted to do something innovative, 920 00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:31,401 if you wanted to be, you know, sort of disruptive, 921 00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:32,869 you had to bring people in 922 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,039 who were not rank-and-file magazine people. 923 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:37,741 Ann Coulter, who you'd think, 924 00:39:37,743 --> 00:39:39,876 what is she doing in this magazine? 925 00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:43,179 My family was not a Kennedy-fanatic family, 926 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,950 so I never really distinguished one Kennedy from the rest, 927 00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:48,918 so I knew he was at least the good-looking one 928 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,187 of this motley crew. 929 00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,356 He was certainly fair to Republicans, 930 00:39:53,358 --> 00:39:55,058 and no other magazine was. 931 00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:58,962 He seemed to want to give some of those right-wing whackos 932 00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:00,363 their voice of the day. 933 00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:03,600 [Cuomo]: The media, it doesn't matter who you are, 934 00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:07,170 it is a very, uh... competitive place, 935 00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:09,672 where your competition is your critic base. 936 00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:11,841 Your family's famous for sticking together. 937 00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,209 Can we expect some tough stories 938 00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:14,544 about Uncle Ted? 939 00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:15,912 Never. 940 00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:18,381 What I have decided, with regard to my family, 941 00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:19,916 that I will recuse myself 942 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,785 and let my editor make the choices, 943 00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:23,119 with the one reminder 944 00:40:23,121 --> 00:40:25,355 that we have to work together in the future. 945 00:40:25,357 --> 00:40:28,591 In September's George , JFK breaks ranks. 946 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:29,659 "Two members of my family 947 00:40:29,661 --> 00:40:31,761 became poster boys for bad behavior. 948 00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,763 Perhaps they deserved it. 949 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,232 Perhaps they should have known better." 950 00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:38,868 Mr. Oliphant, you think that this is sophomoric. Why? 951 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:39,936 The interesting thing 952 00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:42,906 is that what you just read is all there is. 953 00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:45,141 There was now a larger number of people 954 00:40:45,143 --> 00:40:47,343 who wanted to see him struggle. 955 00:40:47,345 --> 00:40:51,514 Even though John was seen as an exalted figure, 956 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:52,916 now he got into the business. 957 00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:55,752 Standards for public discussion ought to be high, 958 00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:58,087 and I think John Kennedy doesn't come close 959 00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,957 to even meeting minimal standards. 960 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,059 John takes that kind of criticism 961 00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,928 like water off a duck's back. 962 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:07,697 He thinks philosophically. 963 00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:10,066 He understands his product well. 964 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,735 Washington really rewards convention. 965 00:41:12,737 --> 00:41:14,671 You really can't color outside the lines. 966 00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:16,406 You know, in Washington, the big phrase is 967 00:41:16,408 --> 00:41:17,774 "Suck up and piss down." 968 00:41:17,776 --> 00:41:20,043 I never once saw him do that. Never once. 969 00:41:20,045 --> 00:41:23,446 George magazine was definitely his magazine, 970 00:41:23,448 --> 00:41:26,749 and the fact that there are no other magazines like that, 971 00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:29,385 to this day, there's no other magazine like it, 972 00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:30,854 kind of proves the point. 973 00:41:36,761 --> 00:41:38,995 John went to buy a suit at Calvin Klein, 974 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,832 and he ran into this beautiful, ethereal blonde woman, 975 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:44,300 Carolyn Bessette. 976 00:41:44,302 --> 00:41:47,737 John was attracted to women who... 977 00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:49,839 were not intimidated by him. 978 00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:54,677 He liked women with a point of view. 979 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,212 He was smitten with her from the first time he met her. 980 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:59,449 He was all loved up with Carolyn, 981 00:41:59,451 --> 00:42:01,518 they were dating at the time, and he lived across the street, 982 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,687 they came in, and, uh... 983 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,122 and on the way out, 984 00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:08,024 she was kind of climbing on his back. 985 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,826 Like, they were in love, you know? 986 00:42:09,828 --> 00:42:11,227 They were being playful. She was literally... 987 00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:13,096 He was carrying her out. She was on his back. 988 00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:15,732 You know, he could have had, what? 989 00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:17,200 The prim, proper girl 990 00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:19,969 from, you know, some, you know, girls' school in Manhattan. 991 00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:22,372 She was fun, gregarious, smiling. 992 00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:25,875 She was very quirky, eccentric... 993 00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:28,745 artistic, Bohemian. 994 00:42:28,747 --> 00:42:30,146 Carolyn was hilarious. 995 00:42:30,148 --> 00:42:32,782 She was sarcastic without being mean. 996 00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:34,584 She was funny. 997 00:42:34,586 --> 00:42:35,618 She was engaging. 998 00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:37,453 You cannot tell in photographs 999 00:42:37,455 --> 00:42:40,990 how beautiful she was in real life. 1000 00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:44,627 I never saw a picture of her that did her justice. 1001 00:42:44,629 --> 00:42:46,362 Carolyn was enchanting. 1002 00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:49,666 There was something about her 1003 00:42:49,668 --> 00:42:53,202 that when she focused on you, 1004 00:42:53,204 --> 00:42:56,306 you felt like you were the only person in the world. 1005 00:42:56,308 --> 00:42:58,441 [Cuomo]: Not only did John Kennedy 1006 00:42:58,443 --> 00:43:02,245 suffer from a, you know, a true overabundance of riches 1007 00:43:02,247 --> 00:43:05,315 when it came to women who found him attractive, 1008 00:43:05,317 --> 00:43:08,151 but to have a woman who didn't seem as though 1009 00:43:08,153 --> 00:43:10,954 she needed John to find her attractive, 1010 00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:13,323 now, that's the magic right there, 1011 00:43:13,325 --> 00:43:16,259 and, certainly, Carolyn had that in spades, 1012 00:43:16,261 --> 00:43:19,195 and I think that it really motivated John 1013 00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:21,030 to be his best self. 1014 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,366 John F. Kennedy Jr., 1015 00:43:23,368 --> 00:43:25,868 long regarded as the world's most eligible bachelor, 1016 00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:27,036 is a married man. 1017 00:43:27,038 --> 00:43:28,237 [Chermayeff]: The wedding was great. 1018 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,541 The wedding was really, really nice. 1019 00:43:31,543 --> 00:43:32,976 It was beautiful, 1020 00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:37,080 and it was a beautiful little church. 1021 00:43:37,082 --> 00:43:39,349 [Amanpour]: His family was there, 1022 00:43:39,351 --> 00:43:40,950 and nobody knew till the end, 1023 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:42,318 and how fabulous is that? 1024 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,020 What a great sense of freedom. 1025 00:43:44,022 --> 00:43:48,458 So uncomplicated, so un-grand, so simple. 1026 00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:50,193 So simple. 1027 00:43:50,195 --> 00:43:53,396 They released one picture, and that was that. 1028 00:43:57,936 --> 00:43:59,068 [Terenzio]: Planning that wedding 1029 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,871 was the most nerve-racking, terrifying thing 1030 00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:03,473 I have ever encountered in my life. 1031 00:44:03,475 --> 00:44:08,344 It was so important to them that the wedding be private. 1032 00:44:11,282 --> 00:44:12,915 [Cuomo]: Beautiful woman, 1033 00:44:12,917 --> 00:44:16,185 but it was the energy that she had, 1034 00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:17,920 it was she brought out in John, 1035 00:44:17,922 --> 00:44:19,989 it's what he drew from her 1036 00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:22,859 that really made that relationship what it was. 1037 00:44:22,861 --> 00:44:25,795 The complementary aspects on the outside 1038 00:44:25,797 --> 00:44:28,231 were nothing compared to what they shared on the inside. 1039 00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:31,834 I saw a very, very romantic side of their, you know, 1040 00:44:31,836 --> 00:44:33,002 newlywed life. 1041 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:34,404 They'd really got affectionate 1042 00:44:34,406 --> 00:44:37,106 and talk in private name talk, 1043 00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:39,075 you know, whatever they called each other. 1044 00:44:39,077 --> 00:44:40,143 You know, it would get embarrassing, 1045 00:44:40,145 --> 00:44:41,477 where I'd be like, 1046 00:44:41,479 --> 00:44:42,612 "I'm going to go get that thing at the Xerox machine," 1047 00:44:42,614 --> 00:44:43,646 and I'd kind of slip out. 1048 00:44:43,648 --> 00:44:46,182 They had a friendship as well as a marriage, 1049 00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:48,184 and that was really sweet and nice. 1050 00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:54,323 This woman has, in one swell swoop, 1051 00:44:54,325 --> 00:44:57,827 become the greatest celebrity, you know, of the last 10 years. 1052 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:59,529 Carolyn got, you know, 1053 00:44:59,531 --> 00:45:02,365 dumped into the deep end of the celebrity thing, 1054 00:45:02,367 --> 00:45:04,701 you know, pretty unceremoniously. 1055 00:45:04,703 --> 00:45:08,438 She could have never anticipated the intensity 1056 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,040 that would then be transferred onto her 1057 00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,175 because now it's not just 1058 00:45:12,177 --> 00:45:13,142 "Well, you're hanging out with this guy 1059 00:45:13,144 --> 00:45:14,210 that we all care about," 1060 00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:16,779 it's "Wow, you're the one? 1061 00:45:16,781 --> 00:45:18,047 You're the one?" 1062 00:45:18,049 --> 00:45:19,682 So it became this combination 1063 00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:22,752 of everything you would have to deal with 1064 00:45:22,754 --> 00:45:24,520 if you were dating a rock star, 1065 00:45:24,522 --> 00:45:26,155 with... 1066 00:45:26,157 --> 00:45:29,525 that rock star also happens to be royalty. 1067 00:45:29,527 --> 00:45:33,629 Carolyn Bessette was not prepared for life 1068 00:45:33,631 --> 00:45:36,165 as the wife of John F. Kennedy Jr. 1069 00:45:36,167 --> 00:45:38,101 I mean, photographers were everywhere. 1070 00:45:38,103 --> 00:45:40,703 They hounded her every step. 1071 00:45:40,705 --> 00:45:43,272 Carolyn didn't smile ever, because she was terrified. 1072 00:45:43,274 --> 00:45:45,308 She wasn't used to it. 1073 00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:48,177 She was being bombarded with cameras and paparazzi 1074 00:45:48,179 --> 00:45:49,712 and people screaming horrible things at her 1075 00:45:49,714 --> 00:45:50,713 to try and get a reaction. 1076 00:45:50,715 --> 00:45:52,281 People were cruel to her, 1077 00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:53,683 and the media could be really cruel to her. 1078 00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:56,119 [Andersen]: It was too stressful for her, 1079 00:45:56,121 --> 00:45:57,253 and too much, and she couldn't take it, 1080 00:45:57,255 --> 00:45:59,088 and John was so worried 1081 00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:00,590 that he held a special press conference, 1082 00:46:00,592 --> 00:46:03,159 in which he asked the press to back off. 1083 00:46:03,161 --> 00:46:04,360 How was the honeymoon, John? 1084 00:46:04,362 --> 00:46:07,730 Good. Getting married is a big adjustment, 1085 00:46:07,732 --> 00:46:09,432 and for her, who was a... 1086 00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:11,234 a private citizen up until about two weeks ago, 1087 00:46:11,236 --> 00:46:12,602 it's even more so. 1088 00:46:12,604 --> 00:46:14,237 I don't think she quite appreciated 1089 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,305 just how intense it was going to be. 1090 00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:18,074 I don't think anybody could have appreciated it. 1091 00:46:18,076 --> 00:46:20,042 I don't buy what people say, 1092 00:46:20,044 --> 00:46:22,445 that she knew what she was getting into. 1093 00:46:22,447 --> 00:46:23,880 No one knows what they're getting into 1094 00:46:23,882 --> 00:46:24,914 until they're in it. 1095 00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:26,415 How was the honeymoon, John? 1096 00:46:26,417 --> 00:46:28,284 Hold it, please, for us. Look this way! 1097 00:46:28,286 --> 00:46:29,418 Oh, we're not getting it. 1098 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:30,453 We're not getting it, John. 1099 00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:32,755 Are there any little Johns on the way? 1100 00:46:35,093 --> 00:46:36,793 John! Whoa, whoa. 1101 00:46:36,795 --> 00:46:37,794 Too quick. 1102 00:46:37,796 --> 00:46:40,062 It kind of caused her to unravel a little bit. 1103 00:46:40,064 --> 00:46:43,065 She felt it was so oppressive, having those people out there. 1104 00:46:43,067 --> 00:46:46,202 She just would not leave the house. 1105 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,973 I took her out at one point, and I said, "Listen, you know, 1106 00:46:50,975 --> 00:46:53,142 there's only one way around this, 1107 00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:57,814 which is to reduce the value of the currency 1108 00:46:57,816 --> 00:47:00,850 by making it more plentiful." 1109 00:47:02,387 --> 00:47:03,853 One more time, how was the honeymoon, John? 1110 00:47:03,855 --> 00:47:04,754 Great. 1111 00:47:04,756 --> 00:47:06,222 Honeymoons are great. I recommend them. 1112 00:47:06,224 --> 00:47:07,590 Any little Johns on the way? 1113 00:47:07,592 --> 00:47:08,891 Little Johns? 1114 00:47:11,796 --> 00:47:14,063 I mean, you've just got to go out there, 1115 00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:17,066 and be out there, you know, enough 1116 00:47:17,068 --> 00:47:19,368 so that you don't go on being 1117 00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:22,205 like the Howard Hughes of brides. 1118 00:47:22,207 --> 00:47:23,506 It can't be said enough. 1119 00:47:23,508 --> 00:47:27,243 There is no celebrity, even today, 1120 00:47:27,245 --> 00:47:29,812 who knows what it's like to have the constancy 1121 00:47:29,814 --> 00:47:32,815 and the intensity of interest in their life, 1122 00:47:32,817 --> 00:47:35,017 on all strata of society, 1123 00:47:35,019 --> 00:47:35,952 as John Kennedy. 1124 00:47:43,761 --> 00:47:45,328 John wound up striking 1125 00:47:45,330 --> 00:47:47,930 a very pure bargain with the media 1126 00:47:47,932 --> 00:47:49,365 and the rest of the culture, 1127 00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,133 which was "Okay, I get it. 1128 00:47:51,135 --> 00:47:53,069 You find me interesting. 1129 00:47:53,071 --> 00:47:54,637 Great, come on in, 1130 00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,405 but I'm going to be doing things 1131 00:47:56,407 --> 00:47:57,707 that I think are important. 1132 00:47:57,709 --> 00:47:59,208 I'm not going to be rollerblading around 1133 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:00,209 with my shirt on 1134 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:01,410 or taking a swim. 1135 00:48:01,412 --> 00:48:03,446 I'm going to be taking you places 1136 00:48:03,448 --> 00:48:04,747 and talking about things 1137 00:48:04,749 --> 00:48:07,683 and showing you people and places that matter to me, 1138 00:48:07,685 --> 00:48:09,585 and you're going to be there because I am." 1139 00:48:09,587 --> 00:48:12,421 Mike Tyson received a jailhouse visit last night 1140 00:48:12,423 --> 00:48:14,457 from John F. Kennedy Jr. 1141 00:48:14,459 --> 00:48:17,760 Kennedy says it was a visit between friends. 1142 00:48:17,762 --> 00:48:19,228 Can you tell us why you're here tonight? 1143 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,263 Yeah, I'll do it on my way out, 1144 00:48:20,265 --> 00:48:21,297 if that's all right. 1145 00:48:21,299 --> 00:48:22,365 All right, sure. 1146 00:48:22,367 --> 00:48:24,867 You know, he paid this visit to the prison 1147 00:48:24,869 --> 00:48:27,670 in May of '99, two months before he died, 1148 00:48:27,672 --> 00:48:31,440 and at that point, Tyson was not a popular figure, 1149 00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,409 but John had a relationship with him, 1150 00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:36,479 and John felt a personal compassion for the guy. 1151 00:48:36,481 --> 00:48:38,514 He said, "The only reason you're in this jail 1152 00:48:38,516 --> 00:48:39,548 is because you're black," 1153 00:48:39,550 --> 00:48:41,717 and I... And that could have been, 1154 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,252 but I kind of disagreed at that moment. 1155 00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:44,353 I was really... 1156 00:48:44,355 --> 00:48:46,355 I was pretty much an irritant back then. 1157 00:48:46,357 --> 00:48:47,757 I got into a car accident, 1158 00:48:47,759 --> 00:48:49,158 a fender-bender, 1159 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,259 and I was mad, 1160 00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:52,261 and I struck the people in the car. 1161 00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:53,329 They gave me two years. 1162 00:48:53,331 --> 00:48:55,264 He thought it was outrageous. 1163 00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:56,499 He came down. 1164 00:48:56,501 --> 00:48:57,767 I think he's a man 1165 00:48:57,769 --> 00:48:59,869 who really was putting his life back together, 1166 00:48:59,871 --> 00:49:02,805 has an opportunity to do so in the future, 1167 00:49:02,807 --> 00:49:03,973 has a strong family. 1168 00:49:03,975 --> 00:49:05,241 He has kids. 1169 00:49:05,243 --> 00:49:06,475 He has a wife that really looks out for him, 1170 00:49:06,477 --> 00:49:09,345 and, you know, I hope, you know, 1171 00:49:09,347 --> 00:49:11,781 perhaps coming here and telling folks that, 1172 00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:13,849 people might start to believe it. 1173 00:49:20,491 --> 00:49:22,325 [Leamer]: All John's life, perhaps coming here and telling folks that, 1174 00:49:22,427 --> 00:49:24,393 he wanted to be free. 1175 00:49:24,495 --> 00:49:26,495 He wanted to fly above celebrity. 1176 00:49:26,597 --> 00:49:28,898 He wanted to fly above this attention 1177 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,399 and be his own person, 1178 00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:33,102 and the ultimate way to do that was to fly, 1179 00:49:33,204 --> 00:49:35,538 and from the time he was a boy, he wanted to do that. 1180 00:49:38,343 --> 00:49:40,443 John was serious about becoming a pilot, 1181 00:49:40,545 --> 00:49:43,779 and he went down to the famous academy in Vero Beach 1182 00:49:43,881 --> 00:49:44,680 to learn to fly, 1183 00:49:44,782 --> 00:49:46,415 where only professional pilots go. 1184 00:49:46,517 --> 00:49:48,884 [Barlow]: I'm a private pilot, 1185 00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:52,455 and had a plane that I was using a lot on the ranch. 1186 00:49:52,557 --> 00:49:54,523 He always wanted to go along on that, 1187 00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:57,426 and I eventually said, 1188 00:49:57,528 --> 00:49:58,594 "Obviously, you want to know 1189 00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:00,329 how to drive one of these things. 1190 00:50:00,431 --> 00:50:01,831 It's not that hard. 1191 00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,499 Let me teach you." 1192 00:50:03,601 --> 00:50:05,134 He was always fascinated with aviation, 1193 00:50:05,236 --> 00:50:06,502 and it goes back to his youth, 1194 00:50:06,604 --> 00:50:09,071 because that's when the whole space program 1195 00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,273 really took off under his father. 1196 00:50:11,376 --> 00:50:14,110 That had a major influence on his life. 1197 00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:16,379 [Tyson]: He would tell me 1198 00:50:16,481 --> 00:50:18,781 about his great ideas about flying. 1199 00:50:18,883 --> 00:50:20,883 He just didn't seem rational to me, you know? 1200 00:50:20,985 --> 00:50:22,018 Some people are... 1201 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,486 Some people are different, 1202 00:50:23,588 --> 00:50:24,520 and that's what you have to respect. 1203 00:50:24,622 --> 00:50:26,255 In my wildest dreams, 1204 00:50:26,357 --> 00:50:28,290 I would never want to fly a plane by myself. 1205 00:50:28,393 --> 00:50:30,059 All my life, I wanted people to wait on me. 1206 00:50:30,161 --> 00:50:31,360 That's why I worked so hard. 1207 00:50:31,462 --> 00:50:33,462 [laughs] I don't want to fly the plane. 1208 00:50:33,564 --> 00:50:35,564 I want you to fly the go***mn plane. 1209 00:50:44,509 --> 00:50:46,976 On Memorial Day of 1999, 1210 00:50:47,078 --> 00:50:50,312 John took up this contraption that he had bought 1211 00:50:50,415 --> 00:50:52,348 called a Buckeye powered parachute. 1212 00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:53,783 I was not thrilled about the Buckeye. 1213 00:50:53,885 --> 00:50:55,317 I would not go up in the Buckeye. 1214 00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:57,186 It was a kite with a lawnmower attached to it. 1215 00:50:58,656 --> 00:51:00,089 I remember one time we were out in Hyannis Port, 1216 00:51:00,191 --> 00:51:01,123 and he was flying it around. 1217 00:51:01,225 --> 00:51:02,458 He was like, "Do you want to give it a shot?" 1218 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,260 I was like, "Absolutely not." 1219 00:51:04,362 --> 00:51:05,528 I was afraid to fly that thing, 1220 00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:07,797 and, you know, I'm not afraid to fly much of anything, 1221 00:51:07,899 --> 00:51:11,600 but that was a very treacherous aircraft. 1222 00:51:13,905 --> 00:51:17,540 And he was flying around up there by himself, 1223 00:51:17,642 --> 00:51:22,311 and Caroline said, "He's all alone up there. 1224 00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:24,213 He couldn't be happier." 1225 00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:25,414 He went up in that thing, 1226 00:51:25,516 --> 00:51:27,049 and then something went wrong, 1227 00:51:27,151 --> 00:51:30,419 and he came down, and he came down with a crash, 1228 00:51:30,521 --> 00:51:33,489 and we all went running to go see him, 1229 00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:36,826 and the first ones to get there was my husband, 1230 00:51:36,928 --> 00:51:37,860 holding my son, 1231 00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:40,863 but he was so conscious of not freaking out. 1232 00:51:40,965 --> 00:51:43,732 He was like, "No, no, Phinney, I'm going to be fine," you know, 1233 00:51:43,835 --> 00:51:45,935 Phinney was like, "What's the matter, John?" 1234 00:51:46,037 --> 00:51:48,003 He was like, "No, no, I'm fine. I hurt my leg. 1235 00:51:48,106 --> 00:51:49,138 I'm going to go get it fixed." 1236 00:51:50,675 --> 00:51:52,541 [Andersen]: He survived the crash, 1237 00:51:52,643 --> 00:51:54,443 but he broke his left ankle, 1238 00:51:54,545 --> 00:51:56,879 and for the next several weeks he was wearing a cast. 1239 00:51:56,981 --> 00:51:58,013 It's an emotional thing. 1240 00:51:58,116 --> 00:51:58,848 You break your leg, 1241 00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:00,182 it's the beginning of the summer... 1242 00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:03,652 It's sort of like a symbolic, just everything's broken down. 1243 00:52:04,822 --> 00:52:06,889 [Amanpour]: John was going to try to get 1244 00:52:06,991 --> 00:52:08,057 some more funding, 1245 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:10,359 and try to breathe new life into George , 1246 00:52:10,461 --> 00:52:11,460 which was, you know, 1247 00:52:11,562 --> 00:52:13,562 suffering from some of the economic realities 1248 00:52:13,664 --> 00:52:15,097 around the publishing industry at that time. 1249 00:52:17,301 --> 00:52:18,834 Is there a conflict in your own mind 1250 00:52:18,936 --> 00:52:20,669 about your role in all of this? 1251 00:52:20,771 --> 00:52:22,838 It will succeed, in part, 1252 00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:24,940 because it's also the selling of John Kennedy. 1253 00:52:25,042 --> 00:52:25,975 I mean, I understand 1254 00:52:26,077 --> 00:52:28,611 that I compromise a measure of my own privacy 1255 00:52:28,713 --> 00:52:30,212 by doing something like this. 1256 00:52:30,314 --> 00:52:31,914 This is a commercial venture, 1257 00:52:32,016 --> 00:52:34,450 and I'm out here selling my magazine. 1258 00:52:34,552 --> 00:52:36,685 [Terenzio]: The ad pages 1259 00:52:36,787 --> 00:52:37,920 in the first two issues, you know, 1260 00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:39,889 it was thick as a phone book, almost. 1261 00:52:39,991 --> 00:52:42,892 I think that people expected that to keep going, you know. 1262 00:52:42,994 --> 00:52:45,060 They expected every issue to be packed with ads, 1263 00:52:45,163 --> 00:52:46,962 and I think we kind of expected that, too, 1264 00:52:47,064 --> 00:52:48,264 a little bit, 1265 00:52:48,366 --> 00:52:49,465 and it was tougher than we thought 1266 00:52:49,567 --> 00:52:52,368 to keep it going, and to keep people interested, 1267 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:54,637 and to keep the advertisers coming back, 1268 00:52:54,739 --> 00:52:59,175 and it was important not to use John for that, 1269 00:52:59,277 --> 00:53:02,144 but to really have the integrity of the magazine 1270 00:53:02,246 --> 00:53:03,746 stand for itself. 1271 00:53:03,848 --> 00:53:05,214 I think it was ahead of its time, 1272 00:53:05,316 --> 00:53:06,582 unfortunately. 1273 00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:10,419 I think John saw something that today is taken for granted, 1274 00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:12,188 this idea of the melding of politics with culture. 1275 00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:13,522 You know, I guess, you know, 1276 00:53:13,624 --> 00:53:16,492 people didn't really care what Cyndi Lauper had to say 1277 00:53:16,594 --> 00:53:17,927 about Israeli politics. 1278 00:53:18,029 --> 00:53:20,930 I mean, it was a goofy maga... I mean, it was... 1279 00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:24,800 If you thought about it, it was like, you know what? 1280 00:53:24,902 --> 00:53:27,136 I don't know if people really care. 1281 00:53:27,238 --> 00:53:30,539 He had been told that Hachette was going to basically, 1282 00:53:30,641 --> 00:53:32,808 I think, pull back on its funding. 1283 00:53:34,812 --> 00:53:37,479 It was up to him now to keep it alive. 1284 00:53:37,582 --> 00:53:38,781 I personally think 1285 00:53:38,883 --> 00:53:41,817 it's incredibly important for someone like him, 1286 00:53:41,919 --> 00:53:46,855 that was, I think, destined for this amazing future, 1287 00:53:46,958 --> 00:53:51,760 to know what it's like to go around and beg for money, 1288 00:53:51,862 --> 00:53:54,230 and he wasn't getting the money. 1289 00:53:54,332 --> 00:53:56,065 Is this your life, magazine editor, 1290 00:53:56,167 --> 00:53:58,267 or is politics somewhere down the road? 1291 00:53:58,369 --> 00:54:00,536 I'm here for a good long time. 1292 00:54:00,638 --> 00:54:01,704 And then? 1293 00:54:01,806 --> 00:54:02,638 And then we'll see. 1294 00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:03,806 I actually think 1295 00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:06,575 that John was more interested in politics 1296 00:54:06,677 --> 00:54:08,177 than he let on sometimes, you know. 1297 00:54:08,279 --> 00:54:09,111 Outwardly, he would say, 1298 00:54:09,213 --> 00:54:11,280 " George magazine is my compromise," 1299 00:54:11,382 --> 00:54:12,615 you know, "This is what I'll do. 1300 00:54:12,717 --> 00:54:15,284 It's political without my being in politics," 1301 00:54:15,386 --> 00:54:18,087 but I think that the older he got, 1302 00:54:18,189 --> 00:54:21,423 the more he recognized the purpose of service. 1303 00:54:21,525 --> 00:54:23,459 A public career is... 1304 00:54:23,561 --> 00:54:26,295 is, uh, it's a lot to bite off, 1305 00:54:26,397 --> 00:54:28,030 and you'd better be ready for it, 1306 00:54:28,132 --> 00:54:29,932 and you'd better have your life set up for it, 1307 00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:31,900 and you'd better be prepared to do it for the long haul. 1308 00:54:32,003 --> 00:54:35,271 He was kind of born to be president, right? 1309 00:54:35,373 --> 00:54:36,605 Certainly, after his dad died, 1310 00:54:36,707 --> 00:54:38,574 everyone assumed that at some point 1311 00:54:38,676 --> 00:54:40,876 that would be his ultimate journey. 1312 00:54:40,978 --> 00:54:42,945 You know, it's like a great musician or something. 1313 00:54:43,047 --> 00:54:45,948 He was just very talented at dealing with people, 1314 00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:47,783 and so he had all the natural skills 1315 00:54:47,885 --> 00:54:50,486 to be a very successful politician. 1316 00:54:50,588 --> 00:54:52,288 It's in the family, it's in the blood, 1317 00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:54,290 and it was in him. 1318 00:54:54,392 --> 00:54:57,393 There was always this sense, this constant reminder, 1319 00:54:57,495 --> 00:54:59,028 that his father had been murdered, 1320 00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:01,497 and that's how everybody identified with him, 1321 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:02,731 and I suspect 1322 00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:05,401 everybody of, like, my mom's generation 1323 00:55:05,503 --> 00:55:09,371 always sees him as that little boy 1324 00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:11,674 at his father's funeral. 1325 00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:18,213 His fame was both derivative and tragic. 1326 00:55:18,316 --> 00:55:20,049 He wasn't famous because of anything he did. 1327 00:55:20,151 --> 00:55:22,017 He was famous because of his existence. 1328 00:55:36,033 --> 00:55:37,800 We are interrupting your program this morning 1329 00:55:37,902 --> 00:55:41,003 for some information involving John F. Kennedy Jr., 1330 00:55:41,105 --> 00:55:43,172 the son of the slain president. 1331 00:55:43,274 --> 00:55:44,873 ABC News has reports 1332 00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:47,042 that his plane is missing this morning. 1333 00:55:56,754 --> 00:55:58,253 A dark day for America. 1334 00:55:58,255 --> 00:56:01,156 John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife, Carolyn, 1335 00:56:01,158 --> 00:56:02,758 and her sister, Lauren Bessette, 1336 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,726 still are missing tonight, 1337 00:56:03,728 --> 00:56:04,993 You know, as somebody 1338 00:56:04,995 --> 00:56:06,695 who has flown a light plane on the east coast, 1339 00:56:06,697 --> 00:56:09,965 you get conditions in the summer 1340 00:56:09,967 --> 00:56:15,404 where humidity will be so intense 1341 00:56:15,406 --> 00:56:17,906 that the horizon will just disappear into it. 1342 00:56:17,908 --> 00:56:20,342 He took off from a New Jersey airport, 1343 00:56:20,344 --> 00:56:22,711 heading eventually for his cousin Rory's wedding 1344 00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:25,147 at the family compound in Hyannis Port, 1345 00:56:25,149 --> 00:56:28,584 after stopping first in Martha's Vineyard. 1346 00:56:28,586 --> 00:56:31,019 that they went down in the crash of a single-engine plane 1347 00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:32,554 that Kennedy was flying last night. 1348 00:56:32,556 --> 00:56:34,690 As that news spread across America throughout the day, 1349 00:56:34,692 --> 00:56:36,592 there was a common reaction: 1350 00:56:36,594 --> 00:56:38,160 "This is unbelievable. 1351 00:56:38,162 --> 00:56:40,095 That family truly is cursed." 1352 00:56:42,133 --> 00:56:43,499 [Barlow]: I spent a couple of hours 1353 00:56:43,501 --> 00:56:44,566 trying to convince myself 1354 00:56:44,568 --> 00:56:50,272 that what they'd done was to...was to run away. 1355 00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:54,476 So I thought, "Gosh, maybe they've pulled this off. 1356 00:56:54,478 --> 00:56:55,411 Maybe they'll... 1357 00:56:55,413 --> 00:56:58,280 they'll go off and get plastic surgery 1358 00:56:58,282 --> 00:57:02,384 and disappear from the face of the earth, and..." 1359 00:57:02,386 --> 00:57:05,921 But that was a pretty optimistic view. 1360 00:57:05,923 --> 00:57:08,323 You know, I held out hope for a while 1361 00:57:08,325 --> 00:57:11,059 that he would be stranded somewhere, 1362 00:57:11,061 --> 00:57:12,761 like, swimming there, or whatever. 1363 00:57:12,763 --> 00:57:13,896 [chuckles] 1364 00:57:13,898 --> 00:57:15,964 Nope. 1365 00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,167 Not in a million years 1366 00:57:18,169 --> 00:57:21,870 did I think that there was any way possible 1367 00:57:21,872 --> 00:57:24,173 that that plane had gone down. 1368 00:57:24,175 --> 00:57:26,108 I just thought, "He's somewhere else." 1369 00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:27,342 You know, to be honest, 1370 00:57:27,344 --> 00:57:31,180 I don't think I'll ever really grasp what happened. 1371 00:57:31,182 --> 00:57:32,548 And a friend of mine called 1372 00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:36,051 and said that he had heard that John's plane was missing, 1373 00:57:36,053 --> 00:57:38,487 and so I called John's house 1374 00:57:38,489 --> 00:57:40,222 because I knew Rosemarie was staying there, 1375 00:57:40,224 --> 00:57:41,690 and I called Rose, I said, "Rose, 1376 00:57:41,692 --> 00:57:44,092 this is not true, right?" 1377 00:57:44,094 --> 00:57:46,695 and she broke down and said, "Yeah, it's true. 1378 00:57:46,697 --> 00:57:48,063 We can't find the plane," 1379 00:57:48,065 --> 00:57:50,866 and, um... 1380 00:57:50,868 --> 00:57:52,768 that's how I found out. 1381 00:57:57,408 --> 00:57:58,774 For more than 40 years now, 1382 00:57:58,776 --> 00:58:00,342 the Kennedy family 1383 00:58:00,344 --> 00:58:03,479 has inspired Americans to public service, 1384 00:58:03,481 --> 00:58:06,415 strengthened our faith in the future, 1385 00:58:06,417 --> 00:58:09,551 and moved our nation forward. 1386 00:58:09,553 --> 00:58:13,622 Through it all, they have suffered much, 1387 00:58:13,624 --> 00:58:15,357 and given more. 1388 00:58:28,939 --> 00:58:30,138 And someone comes up to me 1389 00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:31,974 and said, "Oh, well, they found some of the luggage 1390 00:58:31,976 --> 00:58:33,509 washed up on shore," 1391 00:58:33,511 --> 00:58:35,477 and, you know, when they say the stages of grief, 1392 00:58:35,479 --> 00:58:36,545 you know, denial, 1393 00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:37,813 I mean, I was, like, definitely in denial. 1394 00:58:42,286 --> 00:58:43,986 Part of me, in a very strange way, 1395 00:58:43,988 --> 00:58:45,721 was kind of mad at him 1396 00:58:45,723 --> 00:58:48,257 for getting himself into the situation. 1397 00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:49,791 It just shouldn't have happened. 1398 00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:51,527 And I have to say, 1399 00:58:51,529 --> 00:58:55,731 I immediately knew he was dead. 1400 00:58:55,733 --> 00:59:00,202 John Kennedy Jr.'s plane was not going to go missing. 1401 00:59:14,952 --> 00:59:17,286 [♪♪♪] 1402 00:59:17,288 --> 00:59:19,721 [Chermayeff]: The funeral here in the city 1403 00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:23,892 was very moving and incredibly beautiful. 1404 00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:26,028 Once you went inside the barriers, 1405 00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:29,831 which was however many blocks around Park and Madison Avenue, 1406 00:59:29,833 --> 00:59:31,333 there was silence. 1407 00:59:31,335 --> 00:59:33,535 I remember looking down 1408 00:59:33,537 --> 00:59:35,671 and seeing Muhammad Ali sitting on the end of one pew, 1409 00:59:35,673 --> 00:59:36,672 and I was like... 1410 00:59:36,674 --> 00:59:38,006 I smiled, you know? 1411 00:59:38,008 --> 00:59:39,174 I was like, "John, 1412 00:59:39,176 --> 00:59:40,909 you would have loved this," you know? 1413 00:59:40,911 --> 00:59:42,578 John liked a good show, 1414 00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:45,514 and I think he would have looked at it and said, 1415 00:59:45,516 --> 00:59:49,985 "I was treated quite well here." 1416 00:59:49,987 --> 00:59:52,087 Maybe a few months later, 1417 00:59:52,089 --> 00:59:53,322 and I was with my daughter, 1418 00:59:53,324 --> 00:59:55,390 I think she had just turned four, 1419 00:59:55,392 --> 00:59:58,026 and we were walking in the backyard, 1420 00:59:58,028 --> 01:00:00,596 back in towards the house, 1421 01:00:00,598 --> 01:00:02,731 and she said, "Mama, I had a dream last night. 1422 01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:05,968 I had a dream last night that you were happy, 1423 01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:08,370 and you weren't crying anymore," 1424 01:00:08,372 --> 01:00:11,907 and I just looked at her, and I thought, "Oh, my gosh, 1425 01:00:11,909 --> 01:00:14,643 I've just been crying and crying and crying," 1426 01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:19,181 so it was like, "Well, maybe I've got to stop." 1427 01:00:19,183 --> 01:00:20,616 I don't know. 1428 01:00:20,618 --> 01:00:23,518 [Hare]: But I think the world really missed out 1429 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,791 on a wonderful opportunity to have a leader 1430 01:00:29,793 --> 01:00:34,329 with his head and his heart in the right place. 1431 01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:37,499 [Barlow]: We talked for a long time on the phone 1432 01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:39,901 about two weeks before he died. 1433 01:00:39,903 --> 01:00:43,205 I said, "Do you remember that conversation we had 1434 01:00:43,207 --> 01:00:46,141 about being a good man?" 1435 01:00:46,143 --> 01:00:48,510 And he said, "Of course. I think about it a lot," 1436 01:00:48,512 --> 01:00:50,746 and I said, "Well, I just want you to know 1437 01:00:50,748 --> 01:00:55,450 that you have wildly, spectacularly, 1438 01:00:55,452 --> 01:00:59,621 achieved that objective. 1439 01:00:59,623 --> 01:01:04,326 I mean, you are as good a man as I know. 1440 01:01:04,328 --> 01:01:07,496 You are as clear a case 1441 01:01:07,498 --> 01:01:11,867 of what I consider to be virtue in an adult male 1442 01:01:11,869 --> 01:01:14,102 that I can think of." 1443 01:01:14,104 --> 01:01:18,006 That's not going to make the cover of People magazine, 1444 01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:19,808 you know? 1445 01:01:19,810 --> 01:01:21,176 [chuckles] 1446 01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:23,979 "Galaxy's Most Virtuous Male"... 1447 01:01:23,981 --> 01:01:25,147 [laughs] 1448 01:01:25,149 --> 01:01:28,550 ...doesn't somehow have the same ring. 1449 01:01:28,552 --> 01:01:29,818 [laughing] 1450 01:01:31,121 --> 01:01:32,988 [Amanpour]: I challenge anybody 1451 01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:37,359 to come up with any among us, 1452 01:01:37,361 --> 01:01:39,394 at that time, and of his generation... 1453 01:01:42,666 --> 01:01:47,436 and say that he wasn't a fine man. 1454 01:01:47,438 --> 01:01:53,208 I miss not having that future to look forward to. 1455 01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:57,279 I believe that he had greatness in him, 1456 01:01:57,281 --> 01:01:59,314 and I don't give a damn 1457 01:01:59,316 --> 01:02:02,317 if that meant anything about politics. 1458 01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:05,120 He cared about doing things in the world. 1459 01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:06,722 He was unique 1460 01:02:06,724 --> 01:02:09,958 in terms of what he represented in our culture, 1461 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,226 and that's gone, 1462 01:02:11,228 --> 01:02:12,594 and it has not been replaced, 1463 01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:15,030 and I don't think it ever will be. 111398

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