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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,910 --> 00:00:08,551 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:08,618 --> 00:00:11,322 SCOTT: A man walks into the appliance repair shop. 3 00:00:11,389 --> 00:00:13,527 Mark Chynoweth is in there by himself. 4 00:00:13,594 --> 00:00:20,508 ♪♪ ♪♪ 5 00:00:25,017 --> 00:00:27,722 And the killer opens fire. 6 00:00:27,789 --> 00:00:29,993 [gunshots] 7 00:00:30,060 --> 00:00:32,164 ♪♪ ♪♪ 8 00:00:32,231 --> 00:00:34,268 Simultaneously, Eddie Marston 9 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:36,540 is at a house in an Irving neighborhood. 10 00:00:36,607 --> 00:00:40,080 A black Silverado pickup truck pulls up, a guy gets out... 11 00:00:40,147 --> 00:00:43,186 ♪♪ ♪♪ 12 00:00:43,253 --> 00:00:44,990 Shoots Eddie Marston dead. 13 00:00:45,057 --> 00:00:50,802 ♪♪ ♪♪ 14 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:53,440 While those two murders are happening, 15 00:00:53,507 --> 00:00:57,114 a black Silverado pickup truck pulls up on Rena Street. 16 00:00:57,181 --> 00:01:00,054 ♪♪ ♪♪ 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,790 Gunman gets out... 18 00:01:01,857 --> 00:01:04,663 ♪♪ ♪♪ 19 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:07,101 Shoots Duane Chynoweth dead in the driveway. 20 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:09,673 [gunshot] 21 00:01:09,740 --> 00:01:12,612 [gunshots] 22 00:01:12,679 --> 00:01:15,084 LINDSAY: Sitting in the pickup truck 23 00:01:15,151 --> 00:01:17,421 is eight-year-old Jenny Chynoweth, 24 00:01:17,488 --> 00:01:20,661 who just witnessed her father being murdered. 25 00:01:22,431 --> 00:01:25,337 SCOTT: The little girl, Jennifer, starts screaming. 26 00:01:25,404 --> 00:01:27,274 [muffled screaming] 27 00:01:27,341 --> 00:01:29,846 The killer reaches in through the window 28 00:01:29,913 --> 00:01:33,755 and just shoots her point-blank range in the head. 29 00:01:33,821 --> 00:01:35,758 [gunshot] 30 00:01:35,825 --> 00:01:38,697 ♪♪ ♪♪ 31 00:01:38,764 --> 00:01:41,670 [tires squealing] 32 00:01:41,737 --> 00:01:43,974 ♪♪ ♪♪ 33 00:01:44,041 --> 00:01:46,914 [unsettling string music] 34 00:01:46,981 --> 00:01:54,128 ♪♪ ♪♪ 35 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:23,654 - This was the first time 36 00:02:23,721 --> 00:02:26,425 in all of the years I lived with Mark and Lillian 37 00:02:26,492 --> 00:02:29,498 I did not have to go to work sick. 38 00:02:29,566 --> 00:02:31,436 But I was going to have to stay home 39 00:02:31,504 --> 00:02:33,106 and take care of the kids. 40 00:02:33,173 --> 00:02:35,911 [suspenseful music] 41 00:02:35,978 --> 00:02:37,982 EMILY: Like a typical summer day, 42 00:02:38,049 --> 00:02:40,855 I'm home with my siblings in Houston, 12 years old. 43 00:02:40,922 --> 00:02:41,990 School's out. 44 00:02:42,057 --> 00:02:43,460 Was outside playing basketball, 45 00:02:43,528 --> 00:02:44,996 and the phone was ringing. 46 00:02:45,063 --> 00:02:48,403 [telephone ringing] 47 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:53,079 - And it was one of the men that worked for Mark. 48 00:02:53,146 --> 00:02:57,956 And he's like, Anna, are you and the kids okay? 49 00:02:58,022 --> 00:02:59,693 I was like, yes. 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,364 And he's like, there's a truck and a car coming. 51 00:03:02,431 --> 00:03:04,637 They'll be at your house any minute. 52 00:03:04,703 --> 00:03:07,040 Get the children, gather them up, 53 00:03:07,107 --> 00:03:10,247 and you get in the cars as quickly as you can. 54 00:03:10,314 --> 00:03:14,088 ♪♪ ♪♪ 55 00:03:14,154 --> 00:03:16,326 The energy just leaves your body, 56 00:03:16,392 --> 00:03:18,262 and your knees are shaking. 57 00:03:18,329 --> 00:03:20,433 Everything just starts shaking. 58 00:03:20,501 --> 00:03:22,972 ♪♪ ♪♪ 59 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:26,547 - I came in, and I said, well, you know, what happened? 60 00:03:26,614 --> 00:03:29,151 She told me that, now I just need you to listen 61 00:03:29,218 --> 00:03:32,157 and do what I'm saying. 62 00:03:32,224 --> 00:03:35,196 I knew instantly. 63 00:03:35,263 --> 00:03:37,836 This was, like, the dreaded day. 64 00:03:37,902 --> 00:03:40,908 I thought, my dad's dead. 65 00:03:40,975 --> 00:03:45,585 - I have that awareness, too, that this was probably our dad. 66 00:03:45,652 --> 00:03:47,020 [crying] I just remember just, like, hitting my knees 67 00:03:47,087 --> 00:03:50,160 and just praying that nothing was happening, 68 00:03:50,227 --> 00:03:51,296 you know, to Dad. 69 00:03:51,362 --> 00:03:53,033 Like, God, please protect my dad. 70 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:55,304 Please don't let this be. 71 00:03:55,370 --> 00:03:58,075 - I gathered up the kids as quickly as I could. 72 00:03:58,142 --> 00:04:01,282 I start, you know, getting them out the door. 73 00:04:01,349 --> 00:04:05,591 ♪♪ ♪♪ 74 00:04:05,658 --> 00:04:07,260 I have no idea what's going on, 75 00:04:07,327 --> 00:04:10,033 but my worst nightmares, I know, are coming true. 76 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:14,776 ♪♪ ♪♪ 77 00:04:14,843 --> 00:04:16,980 REPORTER: In Texas, 4 people were murdered 78 00:04:17,047 --> 00:04:19,351 in separate attacks within 15 minutes. 79 00:04:19,418 --> 00:04:22,959 In Houston, Mark Chynoweth was shot dead behind the counter 80 00:04:23,026 --> 00:04:24,563 of his secondhand store. 81 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:26,934 - We do not know what the motive for it is. 82 00:04:27,001 --> 00:04:29,539 We have been told by several persons 83 00:04:29,606 --> 00:04:31,275 that he was a member 84 00:04:31,342 --> 00:04:34,616 of some type of a fraternal organization. 85 00:04:34,683 --> 00:04:36,586 - Three middle-class businessmen, 86 00:04:36,653 --> 00:04:38,558 one innocent eight-year-old child, 87 00:04:38,624 --> 00:04:40,728 all killed in the same day, 88 00:04:40,795 --> 00:04:42,799 all killed about the same time, 89 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:47,007 all shot by weapons of destructive caliber. 90 00:04:47,074 --> 00:04:51,082 Even in Houston, which has more than its fair share 91 00:04:51,149 --> 00:04:54,155 of homicides, this is... 92 00:04:54,222 --> 00:04:55,824 this is different. 93 00:04:55,891 --> 00:04:58,396 - These murders get dubbed "the 4 o'clock murders." 94 00:04:58,462 --> 00:05:00,066 The press picks it up. 95 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:02,772 And June 27 at 4:00 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,443 is not just any time for Mormons. 97 00:05:05,511 --> 00:05:07,749 It's the exact time Mormon founder 98 00:05:07,816 --> 00:05:11,824 and prophet Joseph Smith was killed in Carthage Jail 99 00:05:11,891 --> 00:05:14,161 by an angry mob. 100 00:05:14,228 --> 00:05:17,602 - The homicides, all three, were very well organized. 101 00:05:17,668 --> 00:05:19,272 And they almost always want to make sure 102 00:05:19,338 --> 00:05:20,641 the victim was at some place 103 00:05:20,708 --> 00:05:22,579 where they felt comfortable or normal. 104 00:05:22,645 --> 00:05:25,117 These are assassinations. 105 00:05:25,183 --> 00:05:27,054 SCOTT: They were carrying these murders out 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,356 in broad daylight. 107 00:05:28,423 --> 00:05:30,493 What the killers decided to do was, 108 00:05:30,561 --> 00:05:32,698 they would all wear matching disguises, 109 00:05:32,765 --> 00:05:36,205 and they would all have the same stolen pickup truck 110 00:05:36,272 --> 00:05:37,708 that they would be driving. 111 00:05:37,775 --> 00:05:40,414 So, if there were eyewitnesses, and there were, 112 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,554 all the descriptions would perfectly match. 113 00:05:45,190 --> 00:05:47,962 Somebody had really thought this thing through 114 00:05:48,029 --> 00:05:50,133 and really planned. 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,672 ♪♪ ♪♪ 116 00:05:52,739 --> 00:05:54,542 LINDSAY: So now police are left with, 117 00:05:54,609 --> 00:05:56,847 who would have come up with such a coordinated 118 00:05:56,914 --> 00:06:00,888 and complex plot to execute these men at the same time? 119 00:06:00,955 --> 00:06:03,928 ♪♪ ♪♪ 120 00:06:03,994 --> 00:06:07,769 [dramatic music] 121 00:06:07,835 --> 00:06:10,508 ANNA: They bring all the kids to this friend's house. 122 00:06:10,575 --> 00:06:12,211 Nobody will tell me what's going on, 123 00:06:12,278 --> 00:06:15,016 and I'm like, can you please tell me what's going on? 124 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:18,389 We have to just wait. You have to just wait. 125 00:06:18,456 --> 00:06:20,360 EMILY: It was actually the pastor of our church-- 126 00:06:20,426 --> 00:06:24,435 his wife gathered us together in this friend's living room, 127 00:06:24,502 --> 00:06:27,107 just said it really straight to all of us. 128 00:06:27,174 --> 00:06:29,813 - "I hate to tell you kids, but your dad's dead." 129 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:32,050 And there was just, like... 130 00:06:32,117 --> 00:06:36,760 [voice breaking] Just this-- just horrible, like, wailing. 131 00:06:36,827 --> 00:06:40,466 To this day, that sound never leaves. 132 00:06:41,937 --> 00:06:43,908 - [voice breaking] I knew that I didn't want Celia 133 00:06:43,974 --> 00:06:48,249 to find out about Mark from anyone else but me. 134 00:06:48,316 --> 00:06:51,422 ♪♪ ♪♪ 135 00:06:51,489 --> 00:06:55,196 - She says, Celia, Mark has been shot. 136 00:06:55,263 --> 00:06:58,604 ♪♪ ♪♪ 137 00:06:58,670 --> 00:07:02,077 [inhales sharply] And my knees just grow weak, 138 00:07:02,144 --> 00:07:05,651 and I lose it. 139 00:07:05,718 --> 00:07:08,222 ♪♪ ♪♪ 140 00:07:08,289 --> 00:07:10,895 And then we find out that Duane 141 00:07:10,962 --> 00:07:13,867 and his little daughter Jenny 142 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:17,374 and our half-brother Ed were also murdered. 143 00:07:17,441 --> 00:07:21,783 ♪♪ ♪♪ 144 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:24,288 SCOTT: When police talked to the families, 145 00:07:24,355 --> 00:07:26,125 they started figuring out the connection. 146 00:07:26,192 --> 00:07:30,000 They learned about this hit list. 147 00:07:30,066 --> 00:07:33,372 They had a sense of who was behind this. 148 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:36,145 ♪♪ ♪♪ 149 00:07:36,211 --> 00:07:38,550 - We knew, and no one had to tell us. 150 00:07:38,617 --> 00:07:40,420 - No one had to tell us. - We didn't have to ask. 151 00:07:40,487 --> 00:07:41,890 - Yeah. 152 00:07:41,957 --> 00:07:43,827 - It was other parts of our family. 153 00:07:43,894 --> 00:07:46,165 Other people that we loved... ANNA: Mm-hmm. 154 00:07:46,231 --> 00:07:49,138 - Were killing these precious humans 155 00:07:49,204 --> 00:07:50,908 that we adored. ANNA: Mm-hmm, yeah. 156 00:07:50,975 --> 00:07:53,312 This time, when the authorities and the police 157 00:07:53,379 --> 00:07:56,520 are asking me to name names and identify people... 158 00:07:56,587 --> 00:07:59,157 ♪♪ ♪♪ 159 00:07:59,224 --> 00:08:03,501 I was able to say who I knew and what I knew. 160 00:08:03,567 --> 00:08:06,171 I didn't have to say, I don't know. 161 00:08:06,238 --> 00:08:09,946 We knew they were blood atonements. 162 00:08:10,013 --> 00:08:13,787 - They were carrying out our father's revelations 163 00:08:13,854 --> 00:08:16,425 from The Book of the New Covenant. 164 00:08:16,492 --> 00:08:18,429 ♪♪ ♪♪ 165 00:08:18,496 --> 00:08:21,368 - Chynoweth and Marston families were devout followers 166 00:08:21,435 --> 00:08:22,839 of Ervil LeBaron. 167 00:08:22,906 --> 00:08:24,676 But apparently they defected-- 168 00:08:24,742 --> 00:08:27,247 a sin, according to LeBaron religious doctrine. 169 00:08:27,313 --> 00:08:30,721 Some people close to that sect would say that on June 27th, 170 00:08:30,788 --> 00:08:32,959 they were punished for their sin. 171 00:08:33,026 --> 00:08:35,296 ♪♪ ♪♪ 172 00:08:35,363 --> 00:08:39,137 - After they had interviewed the Chynoweth family, 173 00:08:39,204 --> 00:08:42,778 there were people that they suspected of being involved, 174 00:08:42,845 --> 00:08:45,083 specifically the group 175 00:08:45,149 --> 00:08:47,988 called the Kingdom of God on Earth, the KOG, 176 00:08:48,055 --> 00:08:50,393 that's run by Heber LeBaron, 177 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:54,001 along with his brother Aaron in Mexico. 178 00:08:54,068 --> 00:08:57,909 Law enforcement was puzzled by these four murders in Texas. 179 00:08:57,976 --> 00:09:00,982 They needed more information in order to understand 180 00:09:01,048 --> 00:09:03,252 how this could happen the way it happened. 181 00:09:03,319 --> 00:09:06,926 And being the lead Assistant U.S. Attorney at the time, 182 00:09:06,993 --> 00:09:09,231 it became my responsibility 183 00:09:09,298 --> 00:09:12,370 to coordinate things from here. 184 00:09:12,437 --> 00:09:15,309 It was a really tough case. 185 00:09:15,376 --> 00:09:20,186 Houston PD did not have a lot of evidence to work with-- 186 00:09:20,253 --> 00:09:23,760 no fingerprints, no positive identifications. 187 00:09:23,827 --> 00:09:26,298 They were getting nowhere. 188 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:28,537 LINDSAY: They knew who ordered the murders, 189 00:09:28,604 --> 00:09:30,240 but they couldn't arrest him, 190 00:09:30,306 --> 00:09:33,346 because Ervil LeBaron had been dead 191 00:09:33,412 --> 00:09:35,350 for over seven years. 192 00:09:35,417 --> 00:09:37,755 ♪♪ ♪♪ 193 00:09:40,193 --> 00:09:42,164 [dramatic music] 194 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:44,435 - After Mark died, we all got to go home-- 195 00:09:44,502 --> 00:09:46,873 me and the children--to be with Lillian at our house. 196 00:09:46,940 --> 00:09:49,311 We know that it's possible 197 00:09:49,378 --> 00:09:51,950 that somebody could come after her, too. 198 00:09:52,017 --> 00:09:54,522 - There was a very compelling belief 199 00:09:54,589 --> 00:09:56,092 that my mother, Lillian, 200 00:09:56,158 --> 00:09:58,296 was supposed to be killed the same day, 201 00:09:58,362 --> 00:10:01,235 that they would come back and kill her. 202 00:10:01,302 --> 00:10:03,741 And because a child had been killed, 203 00:10:03,808 --> 00:10:06,713 would more children be killed? 204 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,917 - We were absolutely terrified. 205 00:10:08,984 --> 00:10:12,157 And there's a SWAT team surrounding our house. 206 00:10:12,223 --> 00:10:15,797 They had installed motion-detection lighting. 207 00:10:15,864 --> 00:10:18,135 We could not go outside at all. 208 00:10:18,202 --> 00:10:20,106 ♪♪ ♪♪ 209 00:10:20,173 --> 00:10:22,344 And I'm at the iron downstairs, 210 00:10:22,411 --> 00:10:24,549 helping get the clothes ready for the funeral. 211 00:10:24,615 --> 00:10:27,320 And all of a sudden... 212 00:10:27,387 --> 00:10:29,759 all the lights go out in the house, 213 00:10:29,826 --> 00:10:33,166 and we are left in pitch-dark. 214 00:10:33,232 --> 00:10:35,137 - When the lights went out, it felt like, 215 00:10:35,203 --> 00:10:37,474 wait a minute, the security's failed. 216 00:10:37,541 --> 00:10:38,877 EMILY: Yeah. 217 00:10:40,413 --> 00:10:44,221 - We were in the pitch-black, just crawling. 218 00:10:44,288 --> 00:10:46,225 ♪♪ ♪♪ 219 00:10:46,292 --> 00:10:49,331 ANNA: I'm scrambling around. I find Celia, and we're like-- 220 00:10:49,398 --> 00:10:50,834 CELIA: We go hide in the bathtub. 221 00:10:50,901 --> 00:10:52,170 ANNA: We go hide in the bathtub. 222 00:10:52,237 --> 00:10:53,907 We make ourselves as small as we can. 223 00:10:53,974 --> 00:10:55,377 CELIA: Barely breathing. 224 00:10:55,444 --> 00:10:57,314 ANNA: We're just shaking with fear, thinking, 225 00:10:57,380 --> 00:10:59,217 somebody's going to come in here and shoot me. 226 00:10:59,284 --> 00:11:01,355 - I thought people were going to burst in and start shooting. 227 00:11:01,422 --> 00:11:03,493 EMILY: Burst in and murder us, for sure. 228 00:11:03,561 --> 00:11:06,933 [suspenseful music] 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,369 ANNA: Time passes. 230 00:11:08,435 --> 00:11:11,342 And then all of a sudden, the lights come back on. 231 00:11:11,409 --> 00:11:15,049 ♪♪ ♪♪ 232 00:11:15,116 --> 00:11:18,757 And it was faulty wiring with the motion detectors. 233 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:23,399 ♪♪ ♪♪ 234 00:11:23,466 --> 00:11:25,771 - After the 4 o'clock murders, 235 00:11:25,838 --> 00:11:27,742 we were still in Denver, 236 00:11:27,809 --> 00:11:31,516 and we were... 237 00:11:31,583 --> 00:11:33,654 still trying to live our lives, 238 00:11:33,721 --> 00:11:37,661 but we knew my mom, Anna Mae, 239 00:11:37,728 --> 00:11:39,464 was on that hit list. 240 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:43,272 So, at the age of 13, 241 00:11:43,339 --> 00:11:45,611 I was given a gun. 242 00:11:45,678 --> 00:11:48,683 ♪♪ ♪♪ 243 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:50,621 Whenever my mom answered the door, 244 00:11:50,688 --> 00:11:54,729 I was to aim that gun out the living-room window. 245 00:11:54,796 --> 00:11:57,467 And if it was any of my siblings, 246 00:11:57,535 --> 00:12:01,275 if you saw anybody draw a gun, you were to pull the trigger. 247 00:12:01,342 --> 00:12:03,681 ♪♪ ♪♪ 248 00:12:03,747 --> 00:12:05,383 HYRUM: It was understood, there was probably 249 00:12:05,450 --> 00:12:07,154 going to be somebody coming trying to kill us, 250 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:08,857 so you have to shoot first. 251 00:12:08,924 --> 00:12:10,794 You shoot to kill. 252 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,134 - We were petrified. 253 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,107 We thought they would come and kill us at any moment. 254 00:12:17,173 --> 00:12:18,242 And they knew where all of our homes were, 255 00:12:18,309 --> 00:12:19,979 'cause they were living with us. 256 00:12:20,046 --> 00:12:22,618 - We were like, we have to get out of town. 257 00:12:22,685 --> 00:12:24,789 We have to leave Denver. 258 00:12:25,858 --> 00:12:28,196 The map was spread out, and there was these conversations 259 00:12:28,263 --> 00:12:30,868 going back and forth about where we should go. 260 00:12:30,935 --> 00:12:32,906 But nobody really had any real-world experience 261 00:12:32,972 --> 00:12:35,978 of anywhere else. 262 00:12:36,045 --> 00:12:37,748 I had heard about Oregon before, 263 00:12:37,815 --> 00:12:39,084 and it sounded really cool to me. 264 00:12:39,151 --> 00:12:40,754 So I was like, we should go to Oregon. 265 00:12:40,821 --> 00:12:42,891 It seemed far enough away to be safe, 266 00:12:42,958 --> 00:12:44,294 and nobody would expect it 267 00:12:44,361 --> 00:12:47,300 because that's nowhere we'd ever lived before. 268 00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:50,607 Pretty soon, the decision was made--we're going to Oregon. 269 00:12:50,674 --> 00:12:52,076 - We had a huge caravan. 270 00:12:52,143 --> 00:12:53,814 We all left in the middle of the night. 271 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,285 Our homes were completely intact. 272 00:12:56,352 --> 00:12:59,692 We took a few clothes, a few things, and left. 273 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:04,769 ♪♪ ♪♪ 274 00:13:04,836 --> 00:13:06,071 ANNA: Do you know that 275 00:13:06,138 --> 00:13:09,077 after the 4 o'clock murders happened, 276 00:13:09,144 --> 00:13:11,984 I had to start carrying a gun, too? 277 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:13,386 - I didn't know that. 278 00:13:13,452 --> 00:13:15,190 ANNA: I was working in the appliance shop, 279 00:13:15,256 --> 00:13:17,427 and I carried a gun to work. 280 00:13:17,494 --> 00:13:20,399 I remember the feeling of the heaviness of it 281 00:13:20,466 --> 00:13:22,136 in my pocket. 282 00:13:22,203 --> 00:13:24,341 I remember driving back. 283 00:13:24,408 --> 00:13:27,313 After Mark was killed, I had to go back into the shop. 284 00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:29,351 And so they said, it hasn't been cleaned up yet. 285 00:13:29,418 --> 00:13:33,325 CELIA: Oh! How many days after? - Like, the next day. 286 00:13:33,392 --> 00:13:35,597 - Oh, no, really? ANNA: It was like-- 287 00:13:35,664 --> 00:13:39,872 [breathes deeply] 288 00:13:39,939 --> 00:13:42,645 The carpet still had his blood on it. 289 00:13:42,712 --> 00:13:44,749 [distant siren wailing] 290 00:13:44,816 --> 00:13:49,090 ♪♪ ♪♪ 291 00:13:49,157 --> 00:13:50,627 EMILY: The day of the funeral, 292 00:13:50,694 --> 00:13:54,735 the emphasis was not on grieving their loss. 293 00:13:54,802 --> 00:13:56,940 It was on survival. 294 00:13:57,006 --> 00:14:00,279 It was a terrorizing event. 295 00:14:00,346 --> 00:14:03,620 Fear had gripped everyone. 296 00:14:03,687 --> 00:14:05,791 REPORTER: The victims were all members 297 00:14:05,858 --> 00:14:07,594 of the Chynoweth family. 298 00:14:07,661 --> 00:14:10,399 They'd been linked with several murders themselves, 299 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:13,205 but they'd left the LeBaron church to start a new life 300 00:14:13,272 --> 00:14:15,210 away from the violence. 301 00:14:15,277 --> 00:14:19,384 - Using the past example of the Rulon Allred funeral, 302 00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:23,226 designed to lure Verlan to his death, 303 00:14:23,292 --> 00:14:25,029 the authorities were really worried 304 00:14:25,096 --> 00:14:26,899 that the same thing could happen 305 00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:29,204 with the Chynoweth and the Marston funerals. 306 00:14:30,941 --> 00:14:32,678 - There are some who aren't here, 307 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:34,281 who would like to be here. 308 00:14:34,348 --> 00:14:36,284 They're concerned for their safety. 309 00:14:36,351 --> 00:14:39,291 PERSON: Your brother Victor? - Yes. 310 00:14:39,358 --> 00:14:41,529 PERSON: Your sister Rena? - Yes. 311 00:14:41,596 --> 00:14:44,768 ♪♪ ♪♪ 312 00:14:44,835 --> 00:14:47,273 - There was a perimeter created 313 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:49,845 around where we were going to bury our loved ones. 314 00:14:49,912 --> 00:14:52,718 CELIA: They were protecting us from anybody else 315 00:14:52,784 --> 00:14:54,989 that might want to take out more hits 316 00:14:55,055 --> 00:14:56,491 during the gathering. 317 00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:58,597 - There were snipers in the trees. 318 00:14:58,663 --> 00:15:00,935 - There were friends of mine who didn't come to the funeral 319 00:15:01,001 --> 00:15:02,237 and told me, I'm very sorry. 320 00:15:02,304 --> 00:15:03,540 I can't go to your dad's funeral. 321 00:15:03,607 --> 00:15:05,243 I'm afraid I'm going to be killed. 322 00:15:05,309 --> 00:15:08,984 - There's an overarching sense of just terror. 323 00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:10,788 The boogeyman is really big. 324 00:15:10,855 --> 00:15:14,595 Anywhere, anytime, you don't really know what or why. 325 00:15:14,662 --> 00:15:18,469 ♪♪ ♪♪ 326 00:15:18,537 --> 00:15:21,776 Right after the funeral, literally within 24 hours, 327 00:15:21,843 --> 00:15:23,111 we had to be packed and ready 328 00:15:23,178 --> 00:15:25,551 and were whisked away by the FBI 329 00:15:25,618 --> 00:15:27,320 into Witness Protection. 330 00:15:27,387 --> 00:15:29,124 They changed our last name to DeVeaux, 331 00:15:29,190 --> 00:15:30,927 and that we had to be very careful. 332 00:15:30,994 --> 00:15:32,464 We couldn't tell anyone where we were. 333 00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:35,670 - We couldn't hardly ever leave. 334 00:15:35,737 --> 00:15:37,674 And our mother-- she had lost everything. 335 00:15:37,741 --> 00:15:39,110 She had lost her whole community, 336 00:15:39,177 --> 00:15:41,516 her support structure, her family. 337 00:15:41,583 --> 00:15:46,458 She was spiraling into just a depressive state. 338 00:15:46,526 --> 00:15:48,630 LISA: My dad was such a rock-- 339 00:15:48,697 --> 00:15:50,266 I mean, for her, for us... 340 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:52,036 EMILY: Mm-hmm. - For our community. 341 00:15:52,103 --> 00:15:53,974 That... 342 00:15:54,041 --> 00:15:56,980 loss was really incalculable. - Yeah. 343 00:15:57,046 --> 00:15:59,819 - And I think it's something that... 344 00:15:59,886 --> 00:16:03,492 you know, honestly, she just never recovered from. 345 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,800 ♪♪ ♪♪ 346 00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:08,670 [camera shutter clicks] 347 00:16:08,736 --> 00:16:10,707 DAVID: We have four murders. 348 00:16:10,774 --> 00:16:12,077 These weren't random killings. 349 00:16:12,144 --> 00:16:14,214 They were targeted assassinations. 350 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,184 Law enforcement had a pretty good idea 351 00:16:16,251 --> 00:16:18,355 Heber and Aaron did this, 352 00:16:18,422 --> 00:16:21,563 but they didn't have the necessary evidence 353 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:23,098 to prove it. 354 00:16:24,769 --> 00:16:28,275 And then not long after the murders, 355 00:16:28,342 --> 00:16:31,583 there was a development 356 00:16:31,649 --> 00:16:33,720 that proved to be very important. 357 00:16:33,787 --> 00:16:37,193 ♪♪ ♪♪ 358 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:39,197 LINDSAY: Police in Arizona get a tip 359 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,432 that this group of people 360 00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:42,470 are staying in this dingy motel, 361 00:16:42,538 --> 00:16:44,207 acting a little suspicious. 362 00:16:44,274 --> 00:16:45,977 And when police arrive, 363 00:16:46,044 --> 00:16:48,616 they find this group of clean-cut kids 364 00:16:48,683 --> 00:16:50,755 driving stolen cars. 365 00:16:50,821 --> 00:16:53,392 As police dig through the cars for evidence, 366 00:16:53,459 --> 00:16:55,296 they find a copy of a newspaper 367 00:16:55,363 --> 00:16:57,467 reporting on the 4 o'clock murders 368 00:16:57,535 --> 00:17:00,740 the day after it had happened. 369 00:17:00,807 --> 00:17:04,481 There's also a map of the Houston area. 370 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:07,286 Rena Street is circled right in the middle-- 371 00:17:07,353 --> 00:17:09,592 the street where Duane 372 00:17:09,659 --> 00:17:12,731 and his eight-year-old daughter Jenny were murdered. 373 00:17:12,798 --> 00:17:15,036 - There were a number of other things, 374 00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:18,510 like what appeared to be disguises. 375 00:17:18,577 --> 00:17:21,515 The stuff that was in these trucks 376 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,454 was pretty good circumstantial evidence 377 00:17:24,522 --> 00:17:26,324 that these people had something to do 378 00:17:26,391 --> 00:17:29,732 with what had gone on in Texas. 379 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:33,740 LINDSAY: The police arrested them on auto-theft charges. 380 00:17:33,806 --> 00:17:37,013 And one of the men... 381 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,885 happens to be Heber LeBaron. 382 00:17:39,952 --> 00:17:42,490 ♪♪ ♪♪ 383 00:17:45,597 --> 00:17:47,199 REPORTER: Authorities say it wasn't until a week later 384 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,603 when a Phoenix investigator 385 00:17:48,670 --> 00:17:50,339 called the Houston Police Department 386 00:17:50,406 --> 00:17:52,310 that they realized who they had. 387 00:17:52,377 --> 00:17:53,980 - Investigators began talking to one another 388 00:17:54,047 --> 00:17:57,888 and put together some details that were similar, 389 00:17:57,955 --> 00:18:00,092 both in Houston and in Phoenix. 390 00:18:00,159 --> 00:18:02,798 And it was that type of information yesterday 391 00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:04,635 that led our investigators 392 00:18:04,702 --> 00:18:06,471 to believe that the people that we already had in custody 393 00:18:06,539 --> 00:18:09,277 could, in fact, be involved in some cases in Houston. 394 00:18:09,344 --> 00:18:11,749 - I've been a prosecuting attorney for over 40 years. 395 00:18:11,816 --> 00:18:14,622 I was called to the office of the United States Attorney, 396 00:18:14,688 --> 00:18:18,563 who had a case that they would like us to handle for them, 397 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:21,569 and this turned out to be the LeBaron case. 398 00:18:21,636 --> 00:18:23,840 LINDSAY: So, as they start piecing together 399 00:18:23,907 --> 00:18:25,844 this terrifying LeBaron puzzle, 400 00:18:25,911 --> 00:18:29,251 they think that Heber is the leader 401 00:18:29,318 --> 00:18:32,456 of the 4 o'clock assassinations. 402 00:18:32,524 --> 00:18:35,496 But the problem is, they're having a very difficult time 403 00:18:35,564 --> 00:18:37,367 putting together a case to try him 404 00:18:37,434 --> 00:18:39,739 and other members of the KOG. 405 00:18:39,806 --> 00:18:42,845 [distant siren wailing] 406 00:18:42,912 --> 00:18:45,884 SCOTT: The big problem with the case was, 407 00:18:45,951 --> 00:18:48,155 you have these murders 408 00:18:48,222 --> 00:18:51,394 where they match up in almost every way. 409 00:18:51,461 --> 00:18:54,835 It's like one killer had cloned himself or herself, 410 00:18:54,902 --> 00:18:58,208 acted in three places at the exact same moment. 411 00:18:58,275 --> 00:19:00,479 And in American law, 412 00:19:00,547 --> 00:19:02,718 you have to know which one did which murder. 413 00:19:02,784 --> 00:19:05,189 [dramatic music] 414 00:19:05,255 --> 00:19:08,997 The police knew, the FBI knew who the three killers were. 415 00:19:09,064 --> 00:19:12,805 They were very confident that the killers were Heber... 416 00:19:12,872 --> 00:19:15,778 ♪♪ ♪♪ 417 00:19:15,844 --> 00:19:18,750 Richard LeBaron... 418 00:19:18,816 --> 00:19:21,622 and Doug Barlow. 419 00:19:21,689 --> 00:19:24,862 What they couldn't do was match up 420 00:19:24,928 --> 00:19:27,066 which of those three had done which murder. 421 00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:29,939 And if you can't do that, you can't bring somebody to trial. 422 00:19:30,006 --> 00:19:32,644 ♪♪ ♪♪ 423 00:19:32,711 --> 00:19:34,648 TERRY: What did we have? We had nothing. 424 00:19:34,715 --> 00:19:36,853 No one can put them there at the time, 425 00:19:36,919 --> 00:19:39,458 no person to put them in Texas at the time, 426 00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:40,828 no person to put them, 427 00:19:40,894 --> 00:19:43,232 you know, acquiring these things, really. 428 00:19:43,298 --> 00:19:45,403 And even then, if you could put them acquiring the things, 429 00:19:45,469 --> 00:19:47,708 how could you relate the things to the actual event? 430 00:19:47,775 --> 00:19:48,877 You couldn't. 431 00:19:48,944 --> 00:19:51,214 - You can think you've got the right people, 432 00:19:51,281 --> 00:19:53,018 but you still have to meet the standard. 433 00:19:53,084 --> 00:19:55,423 You have to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt 434 00:19:55,489 --> 00:19:57,293 when you get to trial. 435 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,730 - But in Arizona, 436 00:19:58,796 --> 00:20:01,368 officials aren't having a hard time at all 437 00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:04,073 building a pretty solid auto-theft case. 438 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:07,914 [judge speaking indistinctly] 439 00:20:07,981 --> 00:20:11,155 SCOTT: When they get busted on the auto-theft charges, 440 00:20:11,221 --> 00:20:13,826 they make the decision to plead out, 441 00:20:13,893 --> 00:20:14,895 to plead guilty to them. 442 00:20:14,962 --> 00:20:16,365 My feeling is they do it 443 00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:19,337 because you'll get a lesser sentence by pleading guilty, 444 00:20:19,404 --> 00:20:21,274 rather than going to trial. 445 00:20:21,341 --> 00:20:25,149 And then maybe you sort of fall off the radar down the road 446 00:20:25,215 --> 00:20:26,719 on these murders you did. 447 00:20:26,786 --> 00:20:28,990 So I think that for a lot of strategic reasons, 448 00:20:29,056 --> 00:20:32,063 they thought, okay, let's just plead out. 449 00:20:32,130 --> 00:20:34,568 ♪♪ ♪♪ 450 00:20:34,635 --> 00:20:36,405 LINDSAY: You've got Heber LeBaron 451 00:20:36,471 --> 00:20:38,776 and Doug Barlow sentenced to 10 years, 452 00:20:38,843 --> 00:20:41,481 and Richard LeBaron is sentenced to 3 1/2 years, 453 00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:42,817 because he's a minor. 454 00:20:42,884 --> 00:20:45,791 But in 1988, it was pretty common for convicts 455 00:20:45,857 --> 00:20:49,430 to serve half the time sentence or even less. 456 00:20:49,497 --> 00:20:52,036 So they were still a threat. 457 00:20:52,103 --> 00:20:56,011 ♪♪ ♪♪ 458 00:20:56,078 --> 00:20:57,446 - Before Mark died, 459 00:20:57,514 --> 00:21:00,153 I had already been accepted into a college. 460 00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:02,090 I was so excited. 461 00:21:02,156 --> 00:21:04,561 After Mark died 462 00:21:04,628 --> 00:21:07,534 and the 4 o'clock murders happened, 463 00:21:07,601 --> 00:21:11,074 there was a big discussion among the administration. 464 00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:14,816 They thought that if the parents found out 465 00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:16,051 who I was 466 00:21:16,117 --> 00:21:18,589 that they would unenroll their children 467 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,760 if they didn't think they were safe. 468 00:21:20,827 --> 00:21:23,733 They told me if I changed my name 469 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,041 and swear that I was not going to reveal who I was 470 00:21:28,108 --> 00:21:30,379 to any of the students, 471 00:21:30,446 --> 00:21:33,285 they would let me come. 472 00:21:33,352 --> 00:21:37,093 It was a very weighty decision for me, 473 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,299 especially because I knew 474 00:21:40,366 --> 00:21:43,371 how much Lillian depended on me. 475 00:21:43,438 --> 00:21:44,808 But at the same time, 476 00:21:44,875 --> 00:21:48,115 I felt like I had to move on with my life. 477 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:50,119 So I told Lillian that I had made the decision 478 00:21:50,186 --> 00:21:53,125 that I wanted to go ahead and continue my education 479 00:21:53,191 --> 00:21:54,628 and go to college. 480 00:21:54,695 --> 00:21:57,366 And she was supportive of that. 481 00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:59,638 ♪♪ ♪♪ 482 00:21:59,705 --> 00:22:02,944 I mean, it was hard to leave the children behind-- 483 00:22:03,011 --> 00:22:05,851 you know, Emily and Lisa and the other kids-- 484 00:22:05,918 --> 00:22:07,688 because I was so close to them 485 00:22:07,754 --> 00:22:10,693 and I was so involved in their lives. 486 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,703 But I felt like I was doing the right thing. 487 00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:20,446 - During this time where my mother was really suffering, 488 00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:22,718 her life as she had known it had collapsed. 489 00:22:22,785 --> 00:22:25,590 And I think that as strong as my mother was, of course, 490 00:22:25,657 --> 00:22:27,628 there was just an aloneness at that time 491 00:22:27,695 --> 00:22:30,499 that just can't be overstated. 492 00:22:30,567 --> 00:22:33,640 I remember that morning. 493 00:22:33,706 --> 00:22:38,549 I got up and went to check on the laundry. 494 00:22:38,616 --> 00:22:40,853 And my mom was standing in there. 495 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,158 She turned around, and she was crying. 496 00:22:43,225 --> 00:22:45,764 And then I said, Mom, I just want to let you know, 497 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,904 we're going to be okay, that I really feel like, you know, 498 00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:52,176 God's going to take care of us and we're going to be okay. 499 00:22:52,243 --> 00:22:55,651 ♪♪ ♪♪ 500 00:22:55,717 --> 00:22:57,453 And I hugged her. 501 00:22:57,521 --> 00:22:59,090 I went back to bed. 502 00:22:59,157 --> 00:23:03,031 And, I mean, it was really only minutes later, 503 00:23:03,098 --> 00:23:04,935 I heard the sound 504 00:23:05,002 --> 00:23:08,209 of what, you know, you know is a gunshot sound. 505 00:23:08,275 --> 00:23:09,611 And then... 506 00:23:09,678 --> 00:23:14,921 ♪♪ ♪♪ 507 00:23:14,988 --> 00:23:18,262 I just--I knew she was gone. 508 00:23:18,329 --> 00:23:19,966 [crying] I just remember thinking, 509 00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:24,808 I can't believe our whole life is turned so upside down. 510 00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:27,246 [sniffles] 511 00:23:27,313 --> 00:23:31,154 ANNA: When Lillian took her own life... 512 00:23:31,221 --> 00:23:34,226 I remember just being shocked. 513 00:23:34,293 --> 00:23:36,497 It was like losing your mom. 514 00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:40,205 - The tragedy of Lillian's suicide 515 00:23:40,272 --> 00:23:41,709 is that she was just one 516 00:23:41,776 --> 00:23:44,281 in a list of many former followers 517 00:23:44,347 --> 00:23:46,518 who took their own lives. 518 00:23:47,988 --> 00:23:49,792 Three years after testifying 519 00:23:49,858 --> 00:23:53,633 against his own father in court... 520 00:23:53,699 --> 00:23:57,239 Isaac LeBaron died by suicide as well. 521 00:23:57,306 --> 00:24:04,287 ♪♪ ♪♪ 522 00:24:04,354 --> 00:24:05,757 [telephone ringing] 523 00:24:05,823 --> 00:24:07,627 DAVID: In this period after, 524 00:24:07,694 --> 00:24:10,465 the murder case in Houston had cooled off some. 525 00:24:11,903 --> 00:24:13,573 Leads had been exhausted. 526 00:24:13,639 --> 00:24:16,812 All the people that could have been talked to were talked to, 527 00:24:16,879 --> 00:24:21,121 but it really wasn't leading to anything specific. 528 00:24:21,188 --> 00:24:24,962 LINDSAY: Police have Heber in jail for auto theft... 529 00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:28,369 but he's essentially gotten away with murder. 530 00:24:28,435 --> 00:24:30,138 Without a major break 531 00:24:30,205 --> 00:24:32,978 or someone from the KOG coming forward, 532 00:24:33,045 --> 00:24:36,518 the murders are in danger of never being solved. 533 00:24:36,585 --> 00:24:38,956 - You don't prosecute a Mafia don 534 00:24:39,023 --> 00:24:42,998 without somebody in the family turning 535 00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:47,139 and giving evidence against the Mafia don. 536 00:24:47,206 --> 00:24:49,277 It's the same thing with this family. 537 00:24:49,343 --> 00:24:52,416 They may be even a tougher nut to crack 538 00:24:52,483 --> 00:24:55,122 because they're related by blood 539 00:24:55,189 --> 00:24:58,062 and they're related by this ideology 540 00:24:58,128 --> 00:25:01,802 that has vengeance and violence at its core. 541 00:25:01,869 --> 00:25:04,174 What law enforcement needed badly 542 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,481 was someone on the inside who could open the door. 543 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:11,989 [telephone ringing] 544 00:25:12,056 --> 00:25:16,699 The Utah detective gets a phone call... 545 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:19,337 from Cynthia LeBaron, 546 00:25:19,404 --> 00:25:21,876 who was down in Mexico. 547 00:25:21,943 --> 00:25:24,949 Cynthia is a daughter of Ervil LeBaron. 548 00:25:25,015 --> 00:25:27,687 Cynthia tells the detective 549 00:25:27,754 --> 00:25:31,461 that some things have happened in Mexico, 550 00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:36,037 that she and her sister were afraid for their lives, 551 00:25:36,104 --> 00:25:38,809 that they would be willing to talk. 552 00:25:38,876 --> 00:25:41,014 She wants us to meet her in Texas. 553 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,218 - This is a huge break for law enforcement 554 00:25:43,285 --> 00:25:45,189 because she was part of the group in Phoenix. 555 00:25:45,255 --> 00:25:48,763 They know she knows who did what in the 4 o'clock murders. 556 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:50,934 ♪♪ ♪♪ 557 00:25:51,001 --> 00:25:52,938 So Cynthia comes across. 558 00:25:53,005 --> 00:25:56,477 She's met by investigators at the U.S.-Mexican border. 559 00:25:56,545 --> 00:25:58,583 ♪♪ ♪♪ 560 00:25:58,649 --> 00:25:59,952 DAVID: Now, on the one hand, 561 00:26:00,018 --> 00:26:02,390 we thought we're being set up for an ambush. 562 00:26:02,456 --> 00:26:05,663 On the other hand, we thought, well, maybe they're serious. 563 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,567 We can't ignore this possibility. 564 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,103 We have to take advantage of it. 565 00:26:09,170 --> 00:26:12,209 - That very same day, they cut a deal. 566 00:26:12,276 --> 00:26:16,652 Anything she says in this interview... 567 00:26:16,719 --> 00:26:18,422 will not be used against her. 568 00:26:18,488 --> 00:26:22,764 So, once she gets that promise, she starts singing. 569 00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:26,805 ♪♪ ♪♪ 570 00:26:26,872 --> 00:26:30,011 - Cynthia and I were best friends as little girls. 571 00:26:30,078 --> 00:26:34,019 - Cynthia and her siblings 572 00:26:34,086 --> 00:26:36,424 lived with us in Ensenada. 573 00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:39,999 Their mother would go to the U.S. to work, 574 00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:43,304 and my mom helped raise those children at the time. 575 00:26:43,371 --> 00:26:46,612 So we knew them very well. 576 00:26:46,678 --> 00:26:49,951 - Cynthia admitted to her part 577 00:26:50,018 --> 00:26:52,657 in the plot to kill the people in Texas. 578 00:26:52,724 --> 00:26:54,828 ♪♪ ♪♪ 579 00:26:54,895 --> 00:26:57,032 She admitted to keeping surveillance 580 00:26:57,099 --> 00:26:58,803 on one of the victims. 581 00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:00,807 TERRY: Cynthia was basically a lookout. 582 00:27:00,873 --> 00:27:03,613 She called Heber and said, he's there now. 583 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,750 ♪♪ ♪♪ 584 00:27:05,817 --> 00:27:08,188 DAVID: She knew all about the plan--she was part of it. 585 00:27:08,254 --> 00:27:10,861 She described who was assigned to do what, 586 00:27:10,927 --> 00:27:13,733 who was to kill Duane, who was to kill Mark, 587 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,505 who was to kill Ed. 588 00:27:16,572 --> 00:27:18,910 - She not only names Heber and the other killers 589 00:27:18,976 --> 00:27:20,513 in the 4 o'clock murders. 590 00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:23,819 She gives investigators another piece of evidence, which is, 591 00:27:23,886 --> 00:27:26,692 Aaron is in charge of the KOG. 592 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,965 ♪♪ ♪♪ 593 00:27:30,032 --> 00:27:32,236 Heber is his hitman. 594 00:27:32,303 --> 00:27:34,207 ♪♪ ♪♪ 595 00:27:34,273 --> 00:27:36,779 And they had planned the 4 o'clock murders 596 00:27:36,845 --> 00:27:39,216 for 2 years. 597 00:27:39,283 --> 00:27:41,221 SCOTT: All along, law enforcement 598 00:27:41,288 --> 00:27:44,728 has been thinking that Heber LeBaron 599 00:27:44,795 --> 00:27:47,868 was the one mighty and strong-- he is the leader of the cult. 600 00:27:47,935 --> 00:27:50,372 But in fact, it was Aaron LeBaron 601 00:27:50,439 --> 00:27:52,577 who was the one mighty and strong. 602 00:27:52,644 --> 00:27:55,215 ♪♪ ♪♪ 603 00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:59,925 - Basically, we learned that Aaron is more like Ervil, 604 00:27:59,992 --> 00:28:02,531 in the sense that Aaron 605 00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:05,604 understands the religion really, really, really well 606 00:28:05,670 --> 00:28:09,244 and is more hands off. 607 00:28:09,310 --> 00:28:12,517 DAVID: They were told from the time they were born 608 00:28:12,584 --> 00:28:16,424 that they were the anointed, that they were the exceptional, 609 00:28:16,491 --> 00:28:18,862 that they were the people that were going to inherit 610 00:28:18,929 --> 00:28:21,000 the Kingdom of God on Earth 611 00:28:21,067 --> 00:28:24,440 if they did the things Ervil expected them to do. 612 00:28:25,944 --> 00:28:27,880 - The information that Cynthia had 613 00:28:27,947 --> 00:28:31,020 became extremely valuable in multiple cases, 614 00:28:31,087 --> 00:28:33,491 including Dan Jordan's murder. 615 00:28:35,329 --> 00:28:38,168 DAVID: Cynthia knew the plan for killing Dan Jordan. 616 00:28:38,235 --> 00:28:41,909 She knew who was communicating to the people in Mexico 617 00:28:41,975 --> 00:28:43,478 to get it done. 618 00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:48,054 - Cynthia told them that the KOG purposely played 619 00:28:48,121 --> 00:28:51,461 on Dan's sympathies to get in with the family. 620 00:28:51,528 --> 00:28:53,800 This really was a long con. 621 00:28:53,867 --> 00:28:57,507 While KOG members and Aaron are living with Dan Jordan, 622 00:28:57,574 --> 00:29:01,248 Heber's hiding out in Mexico for months, 623 00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:03,919 just waiting for the right time and the right moment 624 00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:05,923 for Dan Jordan's murder. 625 00:29:07,627 --> 00:29:08,963 They knew the hunting trip 626 00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:12,302 would be a time that Dan would be isolated. 627 00:29:12,369 --> 00:29:15,876 Aaron tells Heber when and where they would be. 628 00:29:15,943 --> 00:29:17,881 Heber comes up from Mexico. 629 00:29:17,948 --> 00:29:19,918 Now he's hiding in the woods, 630 00:29:19,984 --> 00:29:22,791 lying in wait to kill Dan Jordan. 631 00:29:22,857 --> 00:29:24,227 [gunshot] 632 00:29:24,294 --> 00:29:27,533 Aaron orchestrated a near-perfect crime. 633 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,540 - Aaron was still out there on the run, 634 00:29:30,606 --> 00:29:33,913 and the possibility of him coming to kill you 635 00:29:33,979 --> 00:29:36,952 for one reason or another still existed. 636 00:29:37,019 --> 00:29:41,027 But what we'd just been told by Cynthia 637 00:29:41,094 --> 00:29:42,864 was a game changer. 638 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:46,338 It was what we needed to get a case prosecuted 639 00:29:46,404 --> 00:29:48,241 in Texas, 640 00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:51,682 and Cynthia was taken into the Witness Protection Program 641 00:29:51,748 --> 00:29:56,123 almost immediately after she gave us this information. 642 00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:59,330 - Even though Aaron remains a fugitive on the lam, 643 00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:01,869 the Feds decide to go ahead and prosecute 644 00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:03,973 the remaining suspects in custody. 645 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,012 ♪♪ ♪♪ 646 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,886 But until Aaron is behind bars... 647 00:30:10,953 --> 00:30:12,289 the threat of violence 648 00:30:12,356 --> 00:30:14,728 is always in the back of people's minds. 649 00:30:14,795 --> 00:30:18,067 ♪♪ ♪♪ 650 00:30:20,706 --> 00:30:23,612 [dramatic music] 651 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:25,884 ♪♪ ♪♪ 652 00:30:25,951 --> 00:30:27,219 ANNA: For my birthday, 653 00:30:27,286 --> 00:30:30,058 Mark and Lillian had purchased me a hope chest... 654 00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:31,795 - Hope chest, yeah. 655 00:30:31,862 --> 00:30:33,532 - Where I could begin planning 656 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,206 for my future life as a married woman. 657 00:30:37,272 --> 00:30:40,813 And so, when I had a boyfriend for the very first time, 658 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,183 I strongly suspected 659 00:30:42,249 --> 00:30:44,555 that he was going to ask me to marry him. 660 00:30:44,621 --> 00:30:47,393 And, you know, of course, the answer was yes. 661 00:30:47,459 --> 00:30:52,336 I was operating on probably less than a shoestring budget. 662 00:30:52,403 --> 00:30:54,941 And Celia had a friend of our family 663 00:30:55,008 --> 00:30:57,246 give me a beautiful dress. 664 00:30:57,313 --> 00:30:59,416 - I got to be her bridesmaid. 665 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:02,222 ♪♪ ♪♪ 666 00:31:02,289 --> 00:31:03,458 ANNA: I had looked forward 667 00:31:03,525 --> 00:31:05,964 to Lillian helping me plan my wedding 668 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:07,365 and looked forward 669 00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:10,706 to Mark giving me away on my wedding day. 670 00:31:10,773 --> 00:31:12,711 CELIA: Mark and Lillian were very absent. 671 00:31:12,777 --> 00:31:15,448 ANNA: And Mark and Lillian were very absent. 672 00:31:15,516 --> 00:31:17,987 ♪♪ ♪♪ 673 00:31:18,054 --> 00:31:20,091 We were trying to move on with our lives, 674 00:31:20,158 --> 00:31:22,530 but things from our past 675 00:31:22,597 --> 00:31:25,904 kept coming back and kept coming back. 676 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:28,074 - It was still in the back of our minds, 677 00:31:28,141 --> 00:31:30,379 the KOG and the events and-- ANNA: Yeah. 678 00:31:30,445 --> 00:31:33,117 - That, you know, there could be danger. 679 00:31:33,184 --> 00:31:37,694 ♪♪ ♪♪ 680 00:31:37,761 --> 00:31:39,631 REPORTER: The victims were one-time followers 681 00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:41,735 who dared break away and were cut down 682 00:31:41,801 --> 00:31:43,438 in what is known as a blood atonement. 683 00:31:43,506 --> 00:31:45,577 This is how authorities view that atonement 684 00:31:45,643 --> 00:31:46,878 in the indictment. 685 00:31:46,945 --> 00:31:49,183 - Conspiracy to commit murder for hire, 686 00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:50,920 interstate and foreign travel 687 00:31:50,986 --> 00:31:52,557 for the purpose of murder for hire. 688 00:31:52,624 --> 00:31:54,594 - Prosecutors believe that they'll be able, 689 00:31:54,661 --> 00:31:56,898 with a conviction, to get a lengthy sentence 690 00:31:56,965 --> 00:31:58,569 without any probability of parole. 691 00:31:58,636 --> 00:32:02,777 - Even though they're in prison under auto-theft charges, 692 00:32:02,844 --> 00:32:05,082 Heber and his associates, 693 00:32:05,149 --> 00:32:07,788 Richard LeBaron and Doug Barlow, 694 00:32:07,854 --> 00:32:09,390 get put on trial. 695 00:32:09,457 --> 00:32:11,294 - As an assistant federal public defender, 696 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,599 I was assigned to represent Heber LeBaron, 697 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:15,803 the lead defendant in this case. 698 00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:18,942 I did not expect him to be... 699 00:32:19,009 --> 00:32:23,753 as college-kid-looking as he turned out to be... 700 00:32:23,819 --> 00:32:25,890 nor, in the end, did I expect him to be 701 00:32:25,957 --> 00:32:28,963 as candid as he was with me. 702 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:32,804 Heber truly believed... 703 00:32:32,871 --> 00:32:35,977 what his father had told him and raised him to be. 704 00:32:36,044 --> 00:32:37,547 He believed that they were obligated 705 00:32:37,614 --> 00:32:40,586 to kill the people they were told to kill 706 00:32:40,653 --> 00:32:42,289 in order to inherit 707 00:32:42,356 --> 00:32:44,894 all the material and spiritual wealth 708 00:32:44,961 --> 00:32:46,030 of the world. 709 00:32:46,097 --> 00:32:49,136 ♪♪ ♪♪ 710 00:32:49,203 --> 00:32:50,472 DAVID: During the trial, 711 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,111 Heber was as detached as anything else-- 712 00:32:53,178 --> 00:32:55,750 just detached, not part of this. 713 00:32:55,817 --> 00:32:57,654 I'm above it all. 714 00:32:57,721 --> 00:33:00,092 I'm not going to give this the dignity 715 00:33:00,158 --> 00:33:02,495 of paying careful attention, 716 00:33:02,563 --> 00:33:04,668 although I think they were listening very carefully 717 00:33:04,734 --> 00:33:07,841 to everything that was being said... 718 00:33:07,908 --> 00:33:11,213 particularly when Cynthia took the witness stand. 719 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,785 ♪♪ ♪♪ 720 00:33:13,852 --> 00:33:16,457 - I had to deal with the devil, 721 00:33:16,525 --> 00:33:18,763 and I'll stand by that deal. 722 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,365 But without her, 723 00:33:20,432 --> 00:33:23,605 there would have been no prosecution, none. 724 00:33:24,707 --> 00:33:27,914 DAVID: Cynthia laid things out just as she had laid them out 725 00:33:27,981 --> 00:33:29,049 for us... 726 00:33:29,116 --> 00:33:31,354 ♪♪ ♪♪ 727 00:33:31,421 --> 00:33:36,097 Fearlessly, without looking or sounding intimidated, 728 00:33:36,163 --> 00:33:40,706 nervous, or uncomfortable in any way... 729 00:33:40,773 --> 00:33:43,612 although I'm sure she was all three. 730 00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,016 ♪♪ ♪♪ 731 00:33:46,083 --> 00:33:47,820 The trial lasted for four days. 732 00:33:47,887 --> 00:33:50,225 ♪♪ ♪♪ 733 00:33:50,291 --> 00:33:52,329 At the end of four days, it was given to the jury. 734 00:33:52,395 --> 00:33:53,766 It was in the jury's hands. 735 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:57,339 - The outcome was in doubt, because it's a jury trial, 736 00:33:57,406 --> 00:33:59,611 and we only had to win one juror's imagination 737 00:33:59,678 --> 00:34:01,648 to hang it up. 738 00:34:01,715 --> 00:34:03,986 - I felt if we did not get a conviction, 739 00:34:04,053 --> 00:34:06,156 more people were going to die. 740 00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:12,002 - After so much injustice that followed this family, 741 00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:14,473 the verdict comes down, 742 00:34:14,541 --> 00:34:18,381 and it's guilty for all three perpetrators. 743 00:34:18,448 --> 00:34:22,455 Heber and Doug get life sentences 744 00:34:22,523 --> 00:34:24,493 for the 4 o'clock murders. 745 00:34:24,561 --> 00:34:26,463 - I think Heber has killed before, 746 00:34:26,531 --> 00:34:28,602 and I think he enjoyed killing. 747 00:34:28,668 --> 00:34:30,673 So, no, I don't think life's appropriate. 748 00:34:30,739 --> 00:34:31,875 The death penalty is. 749 00:34:31,941 --> 00:34:35,783 - As for Richard, he reaches a plea agreement 750 00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:39,189 and serves five years. 751 00:34:39,256 --> 00:34:41,394 - When I found out later about the verdict 752 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:43,331 and that they were going to be spending 753 00:34:43,398 --> 00:34:45,001 a lot of time in prison, 754 00:34:45,068 --> 00:34:46,705 I felt safer. 755 00:34:46,772 --> 00:34:48,809 CELIA: It was better that they be in prison, 756 00:34:48,876 --> 00:34:51,649 but there are a lot of mixed emotions. 757 00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,017 - Yes. 758 00:34:53,084 --> 00:34:55,055 - These are people that you love, that you care about. 759 00:34:55,122 --> 00:34:56,625 It was heart-wrenching. 760 00:34:56,692 --> 00:35:00,800 - I mean, anybody that was close to the story, I think, 761 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:03,471 felt a collective relief. 762 00:35:03,539 --> 00:35:06,645 LISA: You know, Heber did send us a letter 763 00:35:06,711 --> 00:35:08,782 that he wanted to take responsibility 764 00:35:08,849 --> 00:35:11,420 and acknowledge for killing our father 765 00:35:11,487 --> 00:35:13,593 and acknowledge the role 766 00:35:13,659 --> 00:35:15,896 that he played in our mother's death. 767 00:35:15,963 --> 00:35:19,270 ♪♪ ♪♪ 768 00:35:19,336 --> 00:35:22,209 But I will never forget our mother, 769 00:35:22,276 --> 00:35:26,150 in her deepest grief, prayed and forgave him 770 00:35:26,216 --> 00:35:27,954 and told us, you have to forgive him 771 00:35:28,021 --> 00:35:31,461 and, like, release him, that God will handle it. 772 00:35:31,528 --> 00:35:34,967 We did not grow up with the burden of unforgiveness. 773 00:35:35,034 --> 00:35:38,340 And it's the most tremendous gift 774 00:35:38,407 --> 00:35:40,211 that our mother really could've ever given us, 775 00:35:40,278 --> 00:35:42,082 as far as I'm concerned. 776 00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:43,619 - Lisa and I have been through... 777 00:35:43,686 --> 00:35:46,992 - A lot. - A lot of complex situations. 778 00:35:47,058 --> 00:35:48,562 And, you know, here we are. 779 00:35:48,629 --> 00:35:51,000 We still have a very close bond, 780 00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:52,368 and I'm very grateful. - Mm-hmm. 781 00:35:52,435 --> 00:35:55,475 There was just such profound fear for so long. 782 00:35:55,543 --> 00:35:57,680 So I was like, I'm not going to let this run my life. 783 00:35:57,747 --> 00:36:00,318 I'm not going to run away from death 784 00:36:00,385 --> 00:36:01,421 and these gruesome things. 785 00:36:01,487 --> 00:36:03,391 I'm going to... 786 00:36:03,458 --> 00:36:05,094 make it my bitch. 787 00:36:05,161 --> 00:36:08,936 - [chuckling] 788 00:36:09,002 --> 00:36:10,673 - It's hard to decide 789 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,913 if justice is ever served when so much is lost, 790 00:36:13,979 --> 00:36:16,751 but I think this was finally a step in the right direction. 791 00:36:16,818 --> 00:36:19,891 But someone was still skirting justice. 792 00:36:19,958 --> 00:36:22,062 REPORTER: Aaron LeBaron, now 24, 793 00:36:22,129 --> 00:36:24,299 leader of the conspiracy, according to authorities, 794 00:36:24,366 --> 00:36:25,702 still at large in Mexico, 795 00:36:25,769 --> 00:36:27,139 Aaron having been designated 796 00:36:27,205 --> 00:36:29,309 as the grand patriarch of this violent sect. 797 00:36:29,376 --> 00:36:31,514 ♪♪ ♪♪ 798 00:36:36,123 --> 00:36:39,296 - In 1995, we learned that Aaron's been taken 799 00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:41,000 into custody in Mexico. 800 00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:43,572 [dramatic music] 801 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,511 - We finally were able to convince Mexico 802 00:36:46,578 --> 00:36:50,085 to arrest him and get him extradited. 803 00:36:50,152 --> 00:36:52,055 - I didn't give orders, 804 00:36:52,122 --> 00:36:54,961 neither am I leader of a cult like the newspapers say. 805 00:36:55,028 --> 00:36:58,669 I'm a... 806 00:36:58,736 --> 00:37:00,873 director of an English school. 807 00:37:00,939 --> 00:37:03,745 I believe in... 808 00:37:03,812 --> 00:37:06,450 giving to other people and helping other people. 809 00:37:06,518 --> 00:37:09,524 ♪♪ ♪♪ 810 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:10,893 DAVID: I wouldn't look at him 811 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,001 and say, jeez, this guy is a master criminal. 812 00:37:15,068 --> 00:37:18,642 But then I knew differently. 813 00:37:18,709 --> 00:37:21,447 I knew that he'd had a lot more to do with all of this 814 00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:24,086 than anybody really believed. 815 00:37:24,153 --> 00:37:26,824 ♪♪ ♪♪ 816 00:37:26,891 --> 00:37:29,898 - Ervil had indoctrinated these people for years. 817 00:37:29,965 --> 00:37:32,302 We're, like, two generations in now. 818 00:37:32,368 --> 00:37:34,941 When you've been indoctrinated your entire life 819 00:37:35,008 --> 00:37:38,281 to believe that murder is a godly act, 820 00:37:38,348 --> 00:37:41,754 that really complicates your morality. 821 00:37:41,821 --> 00:37:44,060 TERRY: He was tried and convicted 822 00:37:44,126 --> 00:37:46,698 because he was the intellectual author of the homicides. 823 00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:48,401 He was the one that put it in motion. 824 00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:50,773 And he was sentenced to 45 years in prison. 825 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,716 ♪♪ ♪♪ 826 00:37:55,782 --> 00:37:58,889 - I never met Ervil LeBaron in the flesh, 827 00:37:58,955 --> 00:38:00,425 but I lived and worked 828 00:38:00,492 --> 00:38:03,231 in the shadow of his ghost for years 829 00:38:03,297 --> 00:38:04,968 and didn't stop 830 00:38:05,035 --> 00:38:09,243 until after the conviction of Aaron in Texas. 831 00:38:09,310 --> 00:38:11,313 - It's hard to get an exact count 832 00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:13,885 in the wake of this 30-year crime spree, 833 00:38:13,952 --> 00:38:17,894 but we do know that around 33 people were killed, 834 00:38:17,961 --> 00:38:21,233 somewhere around 9 completed suicide, 835 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,371 and countless others suffered 836 00:38:23,438 --> 00:38:26,712 at the hands of all of this violence. 837 00:38:26,778 --> 00:38:29,584 - As long as that doggone book's out there, 838 00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:32,524 The Book of the Covenant... 839 00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:35,562 there's always a potential for someone to pick it up and say, 840 00:38:35,629 --> 00:38:38,067 I'm the one mighty and strong now, 841 00:38:38,134 --> 00:38:41,173 and that should be a concern to everyone. 842 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,979 ♪♪ ♪♪ 843 00:38:44,046 --> 00:38:47,553 - Colonia LeBaron, where Ervil first started out, 844 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:49,156 still exists today. 845 00:38:49,223 --> 00:38:50,692 The people living there 846 00:38:50,759 --> 00:38:53,097 are trying to put the past behind them. 847 00:38:53,163 --> 00:38:55,703 And then 2019 happens. 848 00:38:55,769 --> 00:38:58,140 - Families mourning after a brutal massacre-- 849 00:38:58,207 --> 00:39:01,314 three mothers and six of their children killed. 850 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:04,286 - The LeBarons find themselves in the headlines again 851 00:39:04,352 --> 00:39:06,256 for murder and death. 852 00:39:06,323 --> 00:39:08,795 ♪♪ ♪♪ 853 00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:10,866 Three cars are crossing the border 854 00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:15,141 from Mexico into Texas when the cars are ambushed. 855 00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:18,080 ♪♪ ♪♪ 856 00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:21,286 And inside the cars are women, 857 00:39:21,353 --> 00:39:24,527 mothers, and their children. 858 00:39:24,594 --> 00:39:26,430 - At first, I thought to myself, oh, my God, 859 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,000 is the cult back? 860 00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:30,438 Is this the new chapter? 861 00:39:30,506 --> 00:39:31,842 Since then, it seems clear 862 00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,045 that other factors have been at work. 863 00:39:34,112 --> 00:39:36,083 REPORTER: Mexican officials believe they were caught 864 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,555 in the crosshairs of cartel violence, 865 00:39:38,622 --> 00:39:40,726 saying that a criminal gang confused them 866 00:39:40,793 --> 00:39:44,867 for a group aligned with the Sinaloa Cartel. 867 00:39:44,934 --> 00:39:48,207 - It's just so sad, because these families living there 868 00:39:48,274 --> 00:39:51,514 completely disavow Ervil's teachings. 869 00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:53,417 And yet, it seems like 870 00:39:53,484 --> 00:39:57,459 the sort of curse of LeBaron murderers isn't going away. 871 00:39:57,527 --> 00:40:03,906 ♪♪ ♪♪ 872 00:40:03,972 --> 00:40:06,377 [soft music playing on television] 873 00:40:06,444 --> 00:40:13,591 ♪♪ ♪♪ 874 00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:21,474 ADINE: Oh, my God. 875 00:40:21,541 --> 00:40:23,946 CELIA: So they have to start with Los Molinos? 876 00:40:24,012 --> 00:40:26,183 FAYE: This is Los Molinos. CELIA: Oh, God. 877 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:27,920 ADINE: Oh, my gosh. 878 00:40:27,987 --> 00:40:30,391 - There was a made-for-TV movie that came out in the early '90s 879 00:40:30,458 --> 00:40:31,894 called Prophet of Evil. 880 00:40:31,961 --> 00:40:33,965 It was about our father, Ervil. 881 00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,773 ♪♪ ♪♪ 882 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,244 CELIA: Oh, man. ANNA: This is horrible. 883 00:40:40,311 --> 00:40:43,017 ADINE: That's terrible. 884 00:40:43,084 --> 00:40:45,723 - Watching it now, it's just horrifying 885 00:40:45,789 --> 00:40:49,063 how much violence there was 886 00:40:49,129 --> 00:40:50,833 in our family history. 887 00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,171 - Just heart-wrenching to see 888 00:40:53,238 --> 00:40:55,976 because they're representing people that I love. 889 00:40:56,043 --> 00:40:59,149 So it's hard to see what they've done with their lives. 890 00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:01,654 - And the thing is that they were just brainwashed. 891 00:41:01,721 --> 00:41:04,326 And when you take away that brainwashing, 892 00:41:04,392 --> 00:41:06,330 we were always good people. 893 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:10,471 [somber music] 894 00:41:10,539 --> 00:41:12,175 FAYE: The places that they're showing there 895 00:41:12,241 --> 00:41:14,145 are way too nice. - I know. 896 00:41:14,212 --> 00:41:15,448 [laughter] 897 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:18,154 - We did not live this nice, okay? 898 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:19,156 - Something was bumping me, 899 00:41:19,223 --> 00:41:20,926 and I couldn't figure out what it was. 900 00:41:20,993 --> 00:41:22,797 It's just this really nice house, well kept, maintained. 901 00:41:22,863 --> 00:41:24,701 ANNA: And we weren't even allowed outside! 902 00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:27,706 HYRUM: With white picket fence. [laughter] 903 00:41:28,909 --> 00:41:32,650 - Through it all, I never really lost my faith. 904 00:41:32,717 --> 00:41:35,555 I always had a relationship with God. 905 00:41:37,292 --> 00:41:40,364 I have 10 children, 21 grandchildren, 906 00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:42,703 and it just tickles my heart 907 00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:45,408 to be with them and play with them. 908 00:41:45,474 --> 00:41:48,080 And even though I went through all that crap, 909 00:41:48,147 --> 00:41:51,721 I'm a very happy person, and I have a very happy life. 910 00:41:51,788 --> 00:41:53,859 ♪♪ ♪♪ 911 00:41:53,926 --> 00:41:56,430 - Oh, there's the Mexican jail where you were... 912 00:41:56,497 --> 00:41:59,336 BOTH: Conceived! [laughter] 913 00:41:59,403 --> 00:42:02,576 - I wanted to become a nurse, 914 00:42:02,643 --> 00:42:07,185 but my life was set out for me by religious doctrine. 915 00:42:07,252 --> 00:42:10,726 So I didn't think I was smart enough. 916 00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:14,065 I didn't think that was possible. 917 00:42:14,132 --> 00:42:16,905 But now as an adult, I became a nurse, 918 00:42:16,972 --> 00:42:19,677 and I recently became a master gardener. 919 00:42:19,744 --> 00:42:22,215 If that little girl could just see me now... 920 00:42:23,886 --> 00:42:26,624 CHILDREN: Kill the police. Kill the police. 921 00:42:26,691 --> 00:42:28,929 Kill the police. Kill the police. 922 00:42:28,996 --> 00:42:30,498 - No way would that ever happen. 923 00:42:30,566 --> 00:42:33,470 - We were taught to say... CELIA AND ANNA: I don't know! 924 00:42:33,538 --> 00:42:35,141 I don't know! 925 00:42:35,208 --> 00:42:37,713 [laughter] 926 00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:39,650 - Currently, my beliefs about religion 927 00:42:39,717 --> 00:42:41,721 is basically an atheist. 928 00:42:41,788 --> 00:42:43,992 I think all religions are cults. 929 00:42:44,059 --> 00:42:47,398 It's just some are better than others. 930 00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:50,405 ♪♪ ♪♪ 931 00:42:50,471 --> 00:42:54,714 I'm a Sergeant First Class in the U.S. Army. 932 00:42:54,781 --> 00:42:56,483 I've deployed four times. 933 00:42:56,551 --> 00:42:58,788 ♪♪ ♪♪ 934 00:42:58,855 --> 00:43:03,231 I try to be beneficial to humanity and the planet. 935 00:43:03,297 --> 00:43:06,002 - You were considered the military leader-- 936 00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:07,673 - Oh, that's Bryan Cranston right there. 937 00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:08,875 CELIA: Oh, my God! Breaking Bad! 938 00:43:08,942 --> 00:43:10,011 - Wait. Rewind, rewind! 939 00:43:10,077 --> 00:43:12,783 ANNA: Who is he? CELIA: Breaking Bad! 940 00:43:12,850 --> 00:43:14,152 HYRUM: He's only one of the most famous-- 941 00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:15,421 ADINE: The guy from Malcolm in the Middle! 942 00:43:15,488 --> 00:43:16,925 Yes! Oh, my God. 943 00:43:16,991 --> 00:43:18,093 HYRUM: I didn't know who he was the first time 944 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,597 I watched this 20 years ago. ANNA: What? 945 00:43:19,664 --> 00:43:22,135 This is where he made his big debut. 946 00:43:22,202 --> 00:43:24,574 - Debut. 947 00:43:24,641 --> 00:43:28,648 - It's been over 40 years since I escaped my father's cult. 948 00:43:28,715 --> 00:43:32,022 ♪♪ ♪♪ 949 00:43:32,088 --> 00:43:34,359 I mean, it was a shock to me 950 00:43:34,426 --> 00:43:38,702 when I learned that what we had experienced is called trauma. 951 00:43:38,769 --> 00:43:42,543 To be able to grow and become the person that I am today, 952 00:43:42,610 --> 00:43:44,947 to heal enough 953 00:43:45,014 --> 00:43:48,087 that I was able to write my own story 954 00:43:48,154 --> 00:43:51,359 and to publish my book... 955 00:43:51,426 --> 00:43:53,965 I want to be an inspiration to others-- 956 00:43:54,032 --> 00:43:58,240 anyone who's experienced abuse, neglect, abandonment. 957 00:43:58,307 --> 00:44:00,846 Those things don't have to define us today. 958 00:44:00,913 --> 00:44:03,685 ♪♪ ♪♪ 959 00:44:03,752 --> 00:44:06,858 I have overcome all of the odds, 960 00:44:06,925 --> 00:44:09,396 and here I am. 961 00:44:09,463 --> 00:44:12,001 So it's me and Hyrum that are in the movie so far. 962 00:44:12,068 --> 00:44:14,039 - Yes. - We were in the Veracruz raid! 963 00:44:14,105 --> 00:44:16,143 CELIA: Not specifically, but you were one of those kids. 964 00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:19,617 Hyrum assisted by opening the door. 965 00:44:19,684 --> 00:44:22,756 - Thanks, Hyrum. 966 00:44:22,823 --> 00:44:26,463 - I ran away from the cult 36 years ago, 967 00:44:26,531 --> 00:44:29,803 and I never turned back. 968 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:32,776 I have three grown children. 969 00:44:32,843 --> 00:44:35,014 I have a career in finance. 970 00:44:35,081 --> 00:44:38,755 And in my process, I had to evaluate 971 00:44:38,822 --> 00:44:42,161 every belief that I had, 972 00:44:42,228 --> 00:44:45,234 every thought, practically, that went through my mind 973 00:44:45,301 --> 00:44:49,243 and look at it and say, do I really believe this? 974 00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:51,647 Or is this what I was taught to believe? 975 00:44:51,714 --> 00:44:56,457 ♪♪ ♪♪ 976 00:44:56,525 --> 00:44:58,227 NARRATOR ON TV: Since Ervil LeBaron's death, 977 00:44:58,293 --> 00:45:00,164 his children and members of his church 978 00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:02,736 have committed 15 additional murders. 979 00:45:02,803 --> 00:45:05,876 His legacy has continued. 980 00:45:05,943 --> 00:45:07,646 - But no more! - Not anymore. 981 00:45:07,713 --> 00:45:10,886 ANNA: No more. - No more. 982 00:45:10,953 --> 00:45:12,856 ANNA: There's no telling this story 983 00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,762 without bringing up this past. 984 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:19,102 ♪♪ ♪♪ 985 00:45:19,169 --> 00:45:22,309 CELIA: I am ready now to embrace the wholeness 986 00:45:22,375 --> 00:45:24,213 of who I am 987 00:45:24,279 --> 00:45:28,354 and what it means today to be a LeBaron. 988 00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:29,791 - Mm-hmm. 989 00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:32,128 - It's something that I'm proud of. 990 00:45:32,195 --> 00:45:35,935 - It's been over 30 years. 991 00:45:36,002 --> 00:45:40,679 - Ervil's children are not about that anymore. 992 00:45:40,745 --> 00:45:43,417 - Ervil's children are the ones who want all of that 993 00:45:43,484 --> 00:45:45,990 to stop more than everyone. CELIA: Yeah. 994 00:45:46,056 --> 00:45:48,026 - I promise you that. 69659

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