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[suspenseful music]
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SCOTT: A man walks into
the appliance repair shop.
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Mark Chynoweth
is in there by himself.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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And the killer opens fire.
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[gunshots]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Simultaneously, Eddie Marston
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is at a house
in an Irving neighborhood.
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A black Silverado pickup truck
pulls up, a guy gets out...
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Shoots Eddie Marston dead.
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While those two murders
are happening,
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a black Silverado pickup truck
pulls up on Rena Street.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Gunman gets out...
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Shoots Duane Chynoweth
dead in the driveway.
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[gunshot]
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[gunshots]
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LINDSAY:
Sitting in the pickup truck
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is eight-year-old
Jenny Chynoweth,
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who just witnessed
her father being murdered.
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SCOTT: The little girl,
Jennifer, starts screaming.
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[muffled screaming]
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The killer reaches
in through the window
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and just shoots her
point-blank range in the head.
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[gunshot]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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[tires squealing]
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[unsettling string music]
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- This was the first time
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in all of the years
I lived with Mark and Lillian
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I did not have to go
to work sick.
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But I was going to have
to stay home
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and take care of the kids.
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[suspenseful music]
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EMILY:
Like a typical summer day,
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I'm home with my siblings
in Houston, 12 years old.
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School's out.
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Was outside playing basketball,
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and the phone was ringing.
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[telephone ringing]
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- And it was one of the men
that worked for Mark.
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And he's like, Anna,
are you and the kids okay?
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I was like, yes.
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And he's like, there's
a truck and a car coming.
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They'll be at your house
any minute.
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Get the children,
gather them up,
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and you get in the cars
as quickly as you can.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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The energy just
leaves your body,
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and your knees are shaking.
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Everything just starts shaking.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- I came in, and I said,
well, you know, what happened?
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She told me that,
now I just need you to listen
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and do what I'm saying.
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I knew instantly.
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This was, like,
the dreaded day.
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I thought, my dad's dead.
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- I have that awareness, too,
that this was probably our dad.
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[crying] I just remember
just, like, hitting my knees
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and just praying that
nothing was happening,
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you know, to Dad.
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Like, God, please
protect my dad.
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Please don't let this be.
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- I gathered up the kids
as quickly as I could.
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I start, you know, getting them
out the door.
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I have no idea what's going on,
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but my worst nightmares,
I know, are coming true.
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REPORTER: In Texas,
4 people were murdered
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in separate attacks
within 15 minutes.
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In Houston, Mark Chynoweth was
shot dead behind the counter
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of his secondhand store.
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- We do not know
what the motive for it is.
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We have been told
by several persons
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that he was a member
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of some type
of a fraternal organization.
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- Three middle-class
businessmen,
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one innocent
eight-year-old child,
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all killed in the same day,
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all killed about the same time,
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all shot by weapons
of destructive caliber.
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Even in Houston, which has
more than its fair share
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of homicides, this is...
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this is different.
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- These murders get dubbed
"the 4 o'clock murders."
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The press picks it up.
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And June 27 at 4:00
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is not just any time
for Mormons.
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It's the exact
time Mormon founder
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and prophet Joseph Smith
was killed in Carthage Jail
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by an angry mob.
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- The homicides, all three,
were very well organized.
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And they almost
always want to make sure
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the victim was at some place
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where they felt comfortable
or normal.
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These are assassinations.
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SCOTT: They were carrying
these murders out
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in broad daylight.
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What the killers
decided to do was,
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they would all wear
matching disguises,
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and they would all have
the same stolen pickup truck
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that they would be driving.
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So, if there were
eyewitnesses, and there were,
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all the descriptions
would perfectly match.
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Somebody had really
thought this thing through
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and really planned.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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LINDSAY:
So now police are left with,
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who would have come up
with such a coordinated
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and complex plot to execute
these men at the same time?
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[dramatic music]
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ANNA: They bring all the kids
to this friend's house.
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Nobody will tell me
what's going on,
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and I'm like, can you please
tell me what's going on?
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We have to just wait.
You have to just wait.
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EMILY: It was actually
the pastor of our church--
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his wife gathered us together
in this friend's living room,
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just said it really straight
to all of us.
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- "I hate to tell you kids,
but your dad's dead."
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And there was just, like...
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[voice breaking] Just this--
just horrible, like, wailing.
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To this day,
that sound never leaves.
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- [voice breaking]
I knew that I didn't want Celia
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to find out about Mark
from anyone else but me.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- She says, Celia,
Mark has been shot.
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[inhales sharply]
And my knees just grow weak,
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and I lose it.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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And then we find out that Duane
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and his little daughter Jenny
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and our half-brother Ed
were also murdered.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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SCOTT: When police talked
to the families,
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they started figuring
out the connection.
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They learned
about this hit list.
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They had a sense
of who was behind this.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- We knew,
and no one had to tell us.
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- No one had to tell us.
- We didn't have to ask.
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- Yeah.
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- It was other parts
of our family.
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Other people that we loved...
ANNA: Mm-hmm.
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- Were killing
these precious humans
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that we adored.
ANNA: Mm-hmm, yeah.
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This time, when the authorities
and the police
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are asking me to name names
and identify people...
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♪♪ ♪♪
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I was able to say who I knew
and what I knew.
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I didn't have to say,
I don't know.
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We knew
they were blood atonements.
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- They were carrying out
our father's revelations
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from The Book
of the New Covenant.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- Chynoweth and Marston
families were devout followers
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of Ervil LeBaron.
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But apparently they defected--
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a sin, according
to LeBaron religious doctrine.
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Some people close to that sect
would say that on June 27th,
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they were punished
for their sin.
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- After they had interviewed
the Chynoweth family,
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there were people that they
suspected of being involved,
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specifically the group
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called the Kingdom of God
on Earth, the KOG,
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that's run by Heber LeBaron,
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along with his brother Aaron
in Mexico.
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Law enforcement was puzzled by
these four murders in Texas.
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They needed more information
in order to understand
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how this could happen
the way it happened.
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And being the lead Assistant
U.S. Attorney at the time,
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it became my responsibility
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to coordinate things
from here.
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It was a really tough case.
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Houston PD did not have a lot
of evidence to work with--
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no fingerprints,
no positive identifications.
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They were getting nowhere.
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LINDSAY: They knew
who ordered the murders,
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but they couldn't arrest him,
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because Ervil LeBaron
had been dead
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for over seven years.
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[dramatic music]
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- After Mark died,
we all got to go home--
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me and the children--to be
with Lillian at our house.
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We know that it's possible
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that somebody
could come after her, too.
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- There was
a very compelling belief
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that my mother, Lillian,
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was supposed to be killed
the same day,
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that they would come back
and kill her.
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And because a child
had been killed,
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would more children be killed?
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- We were absolutely terrified.
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And there's a SWAT team
surrounding our house.
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They had installed
motion-detection lighting.
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We could not go outside at all.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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And I'm
at the iron downstairs,
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helping get the clothes
ready for the funeral.
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And all of a sudden...
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all the lights go out
in the house,
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and we are left in pitch-dark.
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- When the lights went out,
it felt like,
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wait a minute,
the security's failed.
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EMILY:
Yeah.
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- We were in the pitch-black,
just crawling.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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ANNA: I'm scrambling around.
I find Celia, and we're like--
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CELIA:
We go hide in the bathtub.
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ANNA:
We go hide in the bathtub.
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We make ourselves
as small as we can.
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CELIA:
Barely breathing.
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ANNA: We're just shaking
with fear, thinking,
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somebody's going to come
in here and shoot me.
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- I thought people were going
to burst in and start shooting.
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EMILY: Burst in
and murder us, for sure.
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[suspenseful music]
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ANNA:
Time passes.
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And then all of a sudden,
the lights come back on.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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And it was faulty wiring
with the motion detectors.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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- After the 4 o'clock murders,
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we were still in Denver,
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and we were...
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still trying to live our lives,
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but we knew my mom, Anna Mae,
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was on that hit list.
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So, at the age of 13,
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I was given a gun.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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Whenever my mom
answered the door,
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I was to aim that gun
out the living-room window.
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And if it was
any of my siblings,
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if you saw anybody draw a gun,
you were to pull the trigger.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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HYRUM: It was understood,
there was probably
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going to be somebody
coming trying to kill us,
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so you have to shoot first.
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You shoot to kill.
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- We were petrified.
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We thought they would come
and kill us at any moment.
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And they knew where
all of our homes were,
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'cause they
were living with us.
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- We were like, we have
to get out of town.
257
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We have to leave Denver.
258
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The map was spread out, and
there was these conversations
259
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going back and forth
about where we should go.
260
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But nobody really had
any real-world experience
261
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of anywhere else.
262
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I had heard
about Oregon before,
263
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and it sounded
really cool to me.
264
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So I was like,
we should go to Oregon.
265
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It seemed far enough away
to be safe,
266
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and nobody would expect it
267
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because that's nowhere
we'd ever lived before.
268
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Pretty soon, the decision was
made--we're going to Oregon.
269
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- We had a huge caravan.
270
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We all left
in the middle of the night.
271
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Our homes
were completely intact.
272
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We took a few clothes,
a few things, and left.
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♪♪ ♪♪
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ANNA:
Do you know that
275
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after the 4 o'clock murders
happened,
276
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I had to start
carrying a gun, too?
277
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- I didn't know that.
278
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ANNA: I was working
in the appliance shop,
279
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and I carried a gun to work.
280
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I remember the feeling
of the heaviness of it
281
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in my pocket.
282
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I remember driving back.
283
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After Mark was killed,
I had to go back into the shop.
284
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And so they said,
it hasn't been cleaned up yet.
285
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CELIA: Oh! How many days after?
- Like, the next day.
286
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- Oh, no, really?
ANNA: It was like--
287
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[breathes deeply]
288
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The carpet still had
his blood on it.
289
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[distant siren wailing]
290
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♪♪ ♪♪
291
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EMILY:
The day of the funeral,
292
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the emphasis was not
on grieving their loss.
293
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It was on survival.
294
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It was a terrorizing event.
295
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Fear had gripped everyone.
296
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REPORTER:
The victims were all members
297
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of the Chynoweth family.
298
00:14:07,661 --> 00:14:10,399
They'd been linked with
several murders themselves,
299
00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:13,205
but they'd left the LeBaron
church to start a new life
300
00:14:13,272 --> 00:14:15,210
away from the violence.
301
00:14:15,277 --> 00:14:19,384
- Using the past example
of the Rulon Allred funeral,
302
00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:23,226
designed to lure Verlan
to his death,
303
00:14:23,292 --> 00:14:25,029
the authorities
were really worried
304
00:14:25,096 --> 00:14:26,899
that the same thing
could happen
305
00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:29,204
with the Chynoweth
and the Marston funerals.
306
00:14:30,941 --> 00:14:32,678
- There are some
who aren't here,
307
00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:34,281
who would like to be here.
308
00:14:34,348 --> 00:14:36,284
They're concerned
for their safety.
309
00:14:36,351 --> 00:14:39,291
PERSON: Your brother Victor?
- Yes.
310
00:14:39,358 --> 00:14:41,529
PERSON: Your sister Rena?
- Yes.
311
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♪♪ ♪♪
312
00:14:44,835 --> 00:14:47,273
- There was a perimeter created
313
00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:49,845
around where we were going
to bury our loved ones.
314
00:14:49,912 --> 00:14:52,718
CELIA: They were protecting
us from anybody else
315
00:14:52,784 --> 00:14:54,989
that might want
to take out more hits
316
00:14:55,055 --> 00:14:56,491
during the gathering.
317
00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:58,597
- There were snipers
in the trees.
318
00:14:58,663 --> 00:15:00,935
- There were friends of mine
who didn't come to the funeral
319
00:15:01,001 --> 00:15:02,237
and told me, I'm very sorry.
320
00:15:02,304 --> 00:15:03,540
I can't go
to your dad's funeral.
321
00:15:03,607 --> 00:15:05,243
I'm afraid
I'm going to be killed.
322
00:15:05,309 --> 00:15:08,984
- There's an overarching
sense of just terror.
323
00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:10,788
The boogeyman is really big.
324
00:15:10,855 --> 00:15:14,595
Anywhere, anytime, you don't
really know what or why.
325
00:15:14,662 --> 00:15:18,469
♪♪ ♪♪
326
00:15:18,537 --> 00:15:21,776
Right after the funeral,
literally within 24 hours,
327
00:15:21,843 --> 00:15:23,111
we had to be packed and ready
328
00:15:23,178 --> 00:15:25,551
and were whisked away
by the FBI
329
00:15:25,618 --> 00:15:27,320
into Witness Protection.
330
00:15:27,387 --> 00:15:29,124
They changed
our last name to DeVeaux,
331
00:15:29,190 --> 00:15:30,927
and that we had to be
very careful.
332
00:15:30,994 --> 00:15:32,464
We couldn't tell
anyone where we were.
333
00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:35,670
- We couldn't
hardly ever leave.
334
00:15:35,737 --> 00:15:37,674
And our mother--
she had lost everything.
335
00:15:37,741 --> 00:15:39,110
She had lost
her whole community,
336
00:15:39,177 --> 00:15:41,516
her support structure,
her family.
337
00:15:41,583 --> 00:15:46,458
She was spiraling
into just a depressive state.
338
00:15:46,526 --> 00:15:48,630
LISA:
My dad was such a rock--
339
00:15:48,697 --> 00:15:50,266
I mean, for her, for us...
340
00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:52,036
EMILY: Mm-hmm.
- For our community.
341
00:15:52,103 --> 00:15:53,974
That...
342
00:15:54,041 --> 00:15:56,980
loss was really incalculable.
- Yeah.
343
00:15:57,046 --> 00:15:59,819
- And I think
it's something that...
344
00:15:59,886 --> 00:16:03,492
you know, honestly, she just
never recovered from.
345
00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,800
♪♪ ♪♪
346
00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:08,670
[camera shutter clicks]
347
00:16:08,736 --> 00:16:10,707
DAVID:
We have four murders.
348
00:16:10,774 --> 00:16:12,077
These weren't random killings.
349
00:16:12,144 --> 00:16:14,214
They were
targeted assassinations.
350
00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,184
Law enforcement
had a pretty good idea
351
00:16:16,251 --> 00:16:18,355
Heber and Aaron did this,
352
00:16:18,422 --> 00:16:21,563
but they didn't have
the necessary evidence
353
00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:23,098
to prove it.
354
00:16:24,769 --> 00:16:28,275
And then not long
after the murders,
355
00:16:28,342 --> 00:16:31,583
there was a development
356
00:16:31,649 --> 00:16:33,720
that proved to be
very important.
357
00:16:33,787 --> 00:16:37,193
♪♪ ♪♪
358
00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:39,197
LINDSAY:
Police in Arizona get a tip
359
00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,432
that this group of people
360
00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:42,470
are staying
in this dingy motel,
361
00:16:42,538 --> 00:16:44,207
acting a little suspicious.
362
00:16:44,274 --> 00:16:45,977
And when police arrive,
363
00:16:46,044 --> 00:16:48,616
they find this group
of clean-cut kids
364
00:16:48,683 --> 00:16:50,755
driving stolen cars.
365
00:16:50,821 --> 00:16:53,392
As police dig through
the cars for evidence,
366
00:16:53,459 --> 00:16:55,296
they find a copy
of a newspaper
367
00:16:55,363 --> 00:16:57,467
reporting
on the 4 o'clock murders
368
00:16:57,535 --> 00:17:00,740
the day after it had happened.
369
00:17:00,807 --> 00:17:04,481
There's also a map
of the Houston area.
370
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:07,286
Rena Street is circled
right in the middle--
371
00:17:07,353 --> 00:17:09,592
the street where Duane
372
00:17:09,659 --> 00:17:12,731
and his eight-year-old
daughter Jenny were murdered.
373
00:17:12,798 --> 00:17:15,036
- There were a number
of other things,
374
00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:18,510
like what appeared
to be disguises.
375
00:17:18,577 --> 00:17:21,515
The stuff that was
in these trucks
376
00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,454
was pretty good
circumstantial evidence
377
00:17:24,522 --> 00:17:26,324
that these people
had something to do
378
00:17:26,391 --> 00:17:29,732
with what had gone on in Texas.
379
00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:33,740
LINDSAY: The police arrested
them on auto-theft charges.
380
00:17:33,806 --> 00:17:37,013
And one of the men...
381
00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,885
happens to be Heber LeBaron.
382
00:17:39,952 --> 00:17:42,490
♪♪ ♪♪
383
00:17:45,597 --> 00:17:47,199
REPORTER: Authorities say
it wasn't until a week later
384
00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,603
when a Phoenix investigator
385
00:17:48,670 --> 00:17:50,339
called
the Houston Police Department
386
00:17:50,406 --> 00:17:52,310
that they realized
who they had.
387
00:17:52,377 --> 00:17:53,980
- Investigators began
talking to one another
388
00:17:54,047 --> 00:17:57,888
and put together some details
that were similar,
389
00:17:57,955 --> 00:18:00,092
both in Houston and in Phoenix.
390
00:18:00,159 --> 00:18:02,798
And it was that type
of information yesterday
391
00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:04,635
that led our investigators
392
00:18:04,702 --> 00:18:06,471
to believe that the people
that we already had in custody
393
00:18:06,539 --> 00:18:09,277
could, in fact, be involved
in some cases in Houston.
394
00:18:09,344 --> 00:18:11,749
- I've been a prosecuting
attorney for over 40 years.
395
00:18:11,816 --> 00:18:14,622
I was called to the office
of the United States Attorney,
396
00:18:14,688 --> 00:18:18,563
who had a case that they would
like us to handle for them,
397
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:21,569
and this turned out
to be the LeBaron case.
398
00:18:21,636 --> 00:18:23,840
LINDSAY: So, as they start
piecing together
399
00:18:23,907 --> 00:18:25,844
this terrifying LeBaron puzzle,
400
00:18:25,911 --> 00:18:29,251
they think that Heber
is the leader
401
00:18:29,318 --> 00:18:32,456
of the 4 o'clock
assassinations.
402
00:18:32,524 --> 00:18:35,496
But the problem is, they're
having a very difficult time
403
00:18:35,564 --> 00:18:37,367
putting together
a case to try him
404
00:18:37,434 --> 00:18:39,739
and other members of the KOG.
405
00:18:39,806 --> 00:18:42,845
[distant siren wailing]
406
00:18:42,912 --> 00:18:45,884
SCOTT: The big problem
with the case was,
407
00:18:45,951 --> 00:18:48,155
you have these murders
408
00:18:48,222 --> 00:18:51,394
where they match up
in almost every way.
409
00:18:51,461 --> 00:18:54,835
It's like one killer
had cloned himself or herself,
410
00:18:54,902 --> 00:18:58,208
acted in three places
at the exact same moment.
411
00:18:58,275 --> 00:19:00,479
And in American law,
412
00:19:00,547 --> 00:19:02,718
you have to know
which one did which murder.
413
00:19:02,784 --> 00:19:05,189
[dramatic music]
414
00:19:05,255 --> 00:19:08,997
The police knew, the FBI knew
who the three killers were.
415
00:19:09,064 --> 00:19:12,805
They were very confident
that the killers were Heber...
416
00:19:12,872 --> 00:19:15,778
♪♪ ♪♪
417
00:19:15,844 --> 00:19:18,750
Richard LeBaron...
418
00:19:18,816 --> 00:19:21,622
and Doug Barlow.
419
00:19:21,689 --> 00:19:24,862
What they couldn't do
was match up
420
00:19:24,928 --> 00:19:27,066
which of those three
had done which murder.
421
00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:29,939
And if you can't do that, you
can't bring somebody to trial.
422
00:19:30,006 --> 00:19:32,644
♪♪ ♪♪
423
00:19:32,711 --> 00:19:34,648
TERRY: What did we have?
We had nothing.
424
00:19:34,715 --> 00:19:36,853
No one can put them there
at the time,
425
00:19:36,919 --> 00:19:39,458
no person to put them in Texas
at the time,
426
00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:40,828
no person to put them,
427
00:19:40,894 --> 00:19:43,232
you know, acquiring
these things, really.
428
00:19:43,298 --> 00:19:45,403
And even then, if you could put
them acquiring the things,
429
00:19:45,469 --> 00:19:47,708
how could you relate the things
to the actual event?
430
00:19:47,775 --> 00:19:48,877
You couldn't.
431
00:19:48,944 --> 00:19:51,214
- You can think
you've got the right people,
432
00:19:51,281 --> 00:19:53,018
but you still have
to meet the standard.
433
00:19:53,084 --> 00:19:55,423
You have to prove things
beyond a reasonable doubt
434
00:19:55,489 --> 00:19:57,293
when you get to trial.
435
00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,730
- But in Arizona,
436
00:19:58,796 --> 00:20:01,368
officials aren't having
a hard time at all
437
00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:04,073
building a pretty solid
auto-theft case.
438
00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:07,914
[judge speaking indistinctly]
439
00:20:07,981 --> 00:20:11,155
SCOTT: When they get busted
on the auto-theft charges,
440
00:20:11,221 --> 00:20:13,826
they make the decision
to plead out,
441
00:20:13,893 --> 00:20:14,895
to plead guilty to them.
442
00:20:14,962 --> 00:20:16,365
My feeling is they do it
443
00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:19,337
because you'll get a lesser
sentence by pleading guilty,
444
00:20:19,404 --> 00:20:21,274
rather than going to trial.
445
00:20:21,341 --> 00:20:25,149
And then maybe you sort of fall
off the radar down the road
446
00:20:25,215 --> 00:20:26,719
on these murders you did.
447
00:20:26,786 --> 00:20:28,990
So I think that for a lot
of strategic reasons,
448
00:20:29,056 --> 00:20:32,063
they thought, okay,
let's just plead out.
449
00:20:32,130 --> 00:20:34,568
♪♪ ♪♪
450
00:20:34,635 --> 00:20:36,405
LINDSAY:
You've got Heber LeBaron
451
00:20:36,471 --> 00:20:38,776
and Doug Barlow
sentenced to 10 years,
452
00:20:38,843 --> 00:20:41,481
and Richard LeBaron
is sentenced to 3 1/2 years,
453
00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:42,817
because he's a minor.
454
00:20:42,884 --> 00:20:45,791
But in 1988, it was
pretty common for convicts
455
00:20:45,857 --> 00:20:49,430
to serve half the time
sentence or even less.
456
00:20:49,497 --> 00:20:52,036
So they were still a threat.
457
00:20:52,103 --> 00:20:56,011
♪♪ ♪♪
458
00:20:56,078 --> 00:20:57,446
- Before Mark died,
459
00:20:57,514 --> 00:21:00,153
I had already been accepted
into a college.
460
00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:02,090
I was so excited.
461
00:21:02,156 --> 00:21:04,561
After Mark died
462
00:21:04,628 --> 00:21:07,534
and the 4 o'clock murders
happened,
463
00:21:07,601 --> 00:21:11,074
there was a big discussion
among the administration.
464
00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:14,816
They thought
that if the parents found out
465
00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:16,051
who I was
466
00:21:16,117 --> 00:21:18,589
that they would unenroll
their children
467
00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,760
if they didn't think
they were safe.
468
00:21:20,827 --> 00:21:23,733
They told me
if I changed my name
469
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,041
and swear that I was not going
to reveal who I was
470
00:21:28,108 --> 00:21:30,379
to any of the students,
471
00:21:30,446 --> 00:21:33,285
they would let me come.
472
00:21:33,352 --> 00:21:37,093
It was a very weighty
decision for me,
473
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,299
especially because I knew
474
00:21:40,366 --> 00:21:43,371
how much Lillian
depended on me.
475
00:21:43,438 --> 00:21:44,808
But at the same time,
476
00:21:44,875 --> 00:21:48,115
I felt like I had to move on
with my life.
477
00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:50,119
So I told Lillian
that I had made the decision
478
00:21:50,186 --> 00:21:53,125
that I wanted to go ahead
and continue my education
479
00:21:53,191 --> 00:21:54,628
and go to college.
480
00:21:54,695 --> 00:21:57,366
And she was supportive
of that.
481
00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:59,638
♪♪ ♪♪
482
00:21:59,705 --> 00:22:02,944
I mean, it was hard to leave
the children behind--
483
00:22:03,011 --> 00:22:05,851
you know, Emily and Lisa
and the other kids--
484
00:22:05,918 --> 00:22:07,688
because I was so close to them
485
00:22:07,754 --> 00:22:10,693
and I was so involved
in their lives.
486
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,703
But I felt like I was doing
the right thing.
487
00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:20,446
- During this time where my
mother was really suffering,
488
00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:22,718
her life as she had known it
had collapsed.
489
00:22:22,785 --> 00:22:25,590
And I think that as strong
as my mother was, of course,
490
00:22:25,657 --> 00:22:27,628
there was just an aloneness
at that time
491
00:22:27,695 --> 00:22:30,499
that just can't be overstated.
492
00:22:30,567 --> 00:22:33,640
I remember that morning.
493
00:22:33,706 --> 00:22:38,549
I got up and went to check
on the laundry.
494
00:22:38,616 --> 00:22:40,853
And my mom
was standing in there.
495
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,158
She turned around,
and she was crying.
496
00:22:43,225 --> 00:22:45,764
And then I said, Mom,
I just want to let you know,
497
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,904
we're going to be okay, that
I really feel like, you know,
498
00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:52,176
God's going to take care of us
and we're going to be okay.
499
00:22:52,243 --> 00:22:55,651
♪♪ ♪♪
500
00:22:55,717 --> 00:22:57,453
And I hugged her.
501
00:22:57,521 --> 00:22:59,090
I went back to bed.
502
00:22:59,157 --> 00:23:03,031
And, I mean, it was really
only minutes later,
503
00:23:03,098 --> 00:23:04,935
I heard the sound
504
00:23:05,002 --> 00:23:08,209
of what, you know, you know
is a gunshot sound.
505
00:23:08,275 --> 00:23:09,611
And then...
506
00:23:09,678 --> 00:23:14,921
♪♪ ♪♪
507
00:23:14,988 --> 00:23:18,262
I just--I knew she was gone.
508
00:23:18,329 --> 00:23:19,966
[crying]
I just remember thinking,
509
00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:24,808
I can't believe our whole life
is turned so upside down.
510
00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:27,246
[sniffles]
511
00:23:27,313 --> 00:23:31,154
ANNA: When Lillian
took her own life...
512
00:23:31,221 --> 00:23:34,226
I remember just being shocked.
513
00:23:34,293 --> 00:23:36,497
It was like losing your mom.
514
00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:40,205
- The tragedy
of Lillian's suicide
515
00:23:40,272 --> 00:23:41,709
is that she was just one
516
00:23:41,776 --> 00:23:44,281
in a list
of many former followers
517
00:23:44,347 --> 00:23:46,518
who took their own lives.
518
00:23:47,988 --> 00:23:49,792
Three years after testifying
519
00:23:49,858 --> 00:23:53,633
against his own father
in court...
520
00:23:53,699 --> 00:23:57,239
Isaac LeBaron
died by suicide as well.
521
00:23:57,306 --> 00:24:04,287
♪♪ ♪♪
522
00:24:04,354 --> 00:24:05,757
[telephone ringing]
523
00:24:05,823 --> 00:24:07,627
DAVID:
In this period after,
524
00:24:07,694 --> 00:24:10,465
the murder case in Houston
had cooled off some.
525
00:24:11,903 --> 00:24:13,573
Leads had been exhausted.
526
00:24:13,639 --> 00:24:16,812
All the people that could have
been talked to were talked to,
527
00:24:16,879 --> 00:24:21,121
but it really wasn't leading
to anything specific.
528
00:24:21,188 --> 00:24:24,962
LINDSAY: Police have Heber
in jail for auto theft...
529
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:28,369
but he's essentially
gotten away with murder.
530
00:24:28,435 --> 00:24:30,138
Without a major break
531
00:24:30,205 --> 00:24:32,978
or someone from the KOG
coming forward,
532
00:24:33,045 --> 00:24:36,518
the murders are in danger
of never being solved.
533
00:24:36,585 --> 00:24:38,956
- You don't prosecute
a Mafia don
534
00:24:39,023 --> 00:24:42,998
without somebody
in the family turning
535
00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:47,139
and giving evidence
against the Mafia don.
536
00:24:47,206 --> 00:24:49,277
It's the same thing
with this family.
537
00:24:49,343 --> 00:24:52,416
They may be even
a tougher nut to crack
538
00:24:52,483 --> 00:24:55,122
because they're related
by blood
539
00:24:55,189 --> 00:24:58,062
and they're related
by this ideology
540
00:24:58,128 --> 00:25:01,802
that has vengeance
and violence at its core.
541
00:25:01,869 --> 00:25:04,174
What law enforcement
needed badly
542
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,481
was someone on the inside
who could open the door.
543
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:11,989
[telephone ringing]
544
00:25:12,056 --> 00:25:16,699
The Utah detective
gets a phone call...
545
00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:19,337
from Cynthia LeBaron,
546
00:25:19,404 --> 00:25:21,876
who was down in Mexico.
547
00:25:21,943 --> 00:25:24,949
Cynthia is a daughter
of Ervil LeBaron.
548
00:25:25,015 --> 00:25:27,687
Cynthia tells the detective
549
00:25:27,754 --> 00:25:31,461
that some things have happened
in Mexico,
550
00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:36,037
that she and her sister
were afraid for their lives,
551
00:25:36,104 --> 00:25:38,809
that they would be willing
to talk.
552
00:25:38,876 --> 00:25:41,014
She wants us
to meet her in Texas.
553
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,218
- This is a huge break
for law enforcement
554
00:25:43,285 --> 00:25:45,189
because she was part
of the group in Phoenix.
555
00:25:45,255 --> 00:25:48,763
They know she knows who did
what in the 4 o'clock murders.
556
00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:50,934
♪♪ ♪♪
557
00:25:51,001 --> 00:25:52,938
So Cynthia comes across.
558
00:25:53,005 --> 00:25:56,477
She's met by investigators
at the U.S.-Mexican border.
559
00:25:56,545 --> 00:25:58,583
♪♪ ♪♪
560
00:25:58,649 --> 00:25:59,952
DAVID:
Now, on the one hand,
561
00:26:00,018 --> 00:26:02,390
we thought we're being set up
for an ambush.
562
00:26:02,456 --> 00:26:05,663
On the other hand, we thought,
well, maybe they're serious.
563
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,567
We can't ignore
this possibility.
564
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,103
We have to take
advantage of it.
565
00:26:09,170 --> 00:26:12,209
- That very same day,
they cut a deal.
566
00:26:12,276 --> 00:26:16,652
Anything she says
in this interview...
567
00:26:16,719 --> 00:26:18,422
will not be used against her.
568
00:26:18,488 --> 00:26:22,764
So, once she gets that promise,
she starts singing.
569
00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:26,805
♪♪ ♪♪
570
00:26:26,872 --> 00:26:30,011
- Cynthia and I were
best friends as little girls.
571
00:26:30,078 --> 00:26:34,019
- Cynthia and her siblings
572
00:26:34,086 --> 00:26:36,424
lived with us in Ensenada.
573
00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:39,999
Their mother would go
to the U.S. to work,
574
00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:43,304
and my mom helped raise
those children at the time.
575
00:26:43,371 --> 00:26:46,612
So we knew them very well.
576
00:26:46,678 --> 00:26:49,951
- Cynthia admitted
to her part
577
00:26:50,018 --> 00:26:52,657
in the plot
to kill the people in Texas.
578
00:26:52,724 --> 00:26:54,828
♪♪ ♪♪
579
00:26:54,895 --> 00:26:57,032
She admitted
to keeping surveillance
580
00:26:57,099 --> 00:26:58,803
on one of the victims.
581
00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:00,807
TERRY: Cynthia
was basically a lookout.
582
00:27:00,873 --> 00:27:03,613
She called Heber and said,
he's there now.
583
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,750
♪♪ ♪♪
584
00:27:05,817 --> 00:27:08,188
DAVID: She knew all about
the plan--she was part of it.
585
00:27:08,254 --> 00:27:10,861
She described
who was assigned to do what,
586
00:27:10,927 --> 00:27:13,733
who was to kill Duane,
who was to kill Mark,
587
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,505
who was to kill Ed.
588
00:27:16,572 --> 00:27:18,910
- She not only names Heber
and the other killers
589
00:27:18,976 --> 00:27:20,513
in the 4 o'clock murders.
590
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:23,819
She gives investigators another
piece of evidence, which is,
591
00:27:23,886 --> 00:27:26,692
Aaron is in charge of the KOG.
592
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,965
♪♪ ♪♪
593
00:27:30,032 --> 00:27:32,236
Heber is his hitman.
594
00:27:32,303 --> 00:27:34,207
♪♪ ♪♪
595
00:27:34,273 --> 00:27:36,779
And they had planned
the 4 o'clock murders
596
00:27:36,845 --> 00:27:39,216
for 2 years.
597
00:27:39,283 --> 00:27:41,221
SCOTT:
All along, law enforcement
598
00:27:41,288 --> 00:27:44,728
has been thinking
that Heber LeBaron
599
00:27:44,795 --> 00:27:47,868
was the one mighty and strong--
he is the leader of the cult.
600
00:27:47,935 --> 00:27:50,372
But in fact,
it was Aaron LeBaron
601
00:27:50,439 --> 00:27:52,577
who was
the one mighty and strong.
602
00:27:52,644 --> 00:27:55,215
♪♪ ♪♪
603
00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:59,925
- Basically, we learned
that Aaron is more like Ervil,
604
00:27:59,992 --> 00:28:02,531
in the sense that Aaron
605
00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:05,604
understands the religion
really, really, really well
606
00:28:05,670 --> 00:28:09,244
and is more hands off.
607
00:28:09,310 --> 00:28:12,517
DAVID: They were told
from the time they were born
608
00:28:12,584 --> 00:28:16,424
that they were the anointed,
that they were the exceptional,
609
00:28:16,491 --> 00:28:18,862
that they were the people
that were going to inherit
610
00:28:18,929 --> 00:28:21,000
the Kingdom of God on Earth
611
00:28:21,067 --> 00:28:24,440
if they did the things Ervil
expected them to do.
612
00:28:25,944 --> 00:28:27,880
- The information
that Cynthia had
613
00:28:27,947 --> 00:28:31,020
became extremely valuable
in multiple cases,
614
00:28:31,087 --> 00:28:33,491
including Dan Jordan's murder.
615
00:28:35,329 --> 00:28:38,168
DAVID: Cynthia knew the plan
for killing Dan Jordan.
616
00:28:38,235 --> 00:28:41,909
She knew who was communicating
to the people in Mexico
617
00:28:41,975 --> 00:28:43,478
to get it done.
618
00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:48,054
- Cynthia told them
that the KOG purposely played
619
00:28:48,121 --> 00:28:51,461
on Dan's sympathies
to get in with the family.
620
00:28:51,528 --> 00:28:53,800
This really was a long con.
621
00:28:53,867 --> 00:28:57,507
While KOG members and Aaron
are living with Dan Jordan,
622
00:28:57,574 --> 00:29:01,248
Heber's hiding out
in Mexico for months,
623
00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:03,919
just waiting for the right time
and the right moment
624
00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:05,923
for Dan Jordan's murder.
625
00:29:07,627 --> 00:29:08,963
They knew the hunting trip
626
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:12,302
would be a time
that Dan would be isolated.
627
00:29:12,369 --> 00:29:15,876
Aaron tells Heber
when and where they would be.
628
00:29:15,943 --> 00:29:17,881
Heber comes up from Mexico.
629
00:29:17,948 --> 00:29:19,918
Now he's hiding in the woods,
630
00:29:19,984 --> 00:29:22,791
lying in wait
to kill Dan Jordan.
631
00:29:22,857 --> 00:29:24,227
[gunshot]
632
00:29:24,294 --> 00:29:27,533
Aaron orchestrated
a near-perfect crime.
633
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,540
- Aaron was still out there
on the run,
634
00:29:30,606 --> 00:29:33,913
and the possibility
of him coming to kill you
635
00:29:33,979 --> 00:29:36,952
for one reason or another
still existed.
636
00:29:37,019 --> 00:29:41,027
But what we'd just been told
by Cynthia
637
00:29:41,094 --> 00:29:42,864
was a game changer.
638
00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:46,338
It was what we needed
to get a case prosecuted
639
00:29:46,404 --> 00:29:48,241
in Texas,
640
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:51,682
and Cynthia was taken into
the Witness Protection Program
641
00:29:51,748 --> 00:29:56,123
almost immediately after
she gave us this information.
642
00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:59,330
- Even though Aaron remains
a fugitive on the lam,
643
00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:01,869
the Feds decide to go ahead
and prosecute
644
00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:03,973
the remaining suspects
in custody.
645
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,012
♪♪ ♪♪
646
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,886
But until Aaron
is behind bars...
647
00:30:10,953 --> 00:30:12,289
the threat of violence
648
00:30:12,356 --> 00:30:14,728
is always in the back
of people's minds.
649
00:30:14,795 --> 00:30:18,067
♪♪ ♪♪
650
00:30:20,706 --> 00:30:23,612
[dramatic music]
651
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:25,884
♪♪ ♪♪
652
00:30:25,951 --> 00:30:27,219
ANNA:
For my birthday,
653
00:30:27,286 --> 00:30:30,058
Mark and Lillian had purchased
me a hope chest...
654
00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:31,795
- Hope chest, yeah.
655
00:30:31,862 --> 00:30:33,532
- Where I could begin planning
656
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,206
for my future life
as a married woman.
657
00:30:37,272 --> 00:30:40,813
And so, when I had a boyfriend
for the very first time,
658
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,183
I strongly suspected
659
00:30:42,249 --> 00:30:44,555
that he was going to ask me
to marry him.
660
00:30:44,621 --> 00:30:47,393
And, you know, of course,
the answer was yes.
661
00:30:47,459 --> 00:30:52,336
I was operating on probably
less than a shoestring budget.
662
00:30:52,403 --> 00:30:54,941
And Celia had
a friend of our family
663
00:30:55,008 --> 00:30:57,246
give me a beautiful dress.
664
00:30:57,313 --> 00:30:59,416
- I got to be her bridesmaid.
665
00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:02,222
♪♪ ♪♪
666
00:31:02,289 --> 00:31:03,458
ANNA:
I had looked forward
667
00:31:03,525 --> 00:31:05,964
to Lillian helping me plan
my wedding
668
00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:07,365
and looked forward
669
00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:10,706
to Mark giving me away
on my wedding day.
670
00:31:10,773 --> 00:31:12,711
CELIA: Mark and Lillian
were very absent.
671
00:31:12,777 --> 00:31:15,448
ANNA: And Mark and Lillian
were very absent.
672
00:31:15,516 --> 00:31:17,987
♪♪ ♪♪
673
00:31:18,054 --> 00:31:20,091
We were trying to move on
with our lives,
674
00:31:20,158 --> 00:31:22,530
but things from our past
675
00:31:22,597 --> 00:31:25,904
kept coming back
and kept coming back.
676
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:28,074
- It was still
in the back of our minds,
677
00:31:28,141 --> 00:31:30,379
the KOG and the events and--
ANNA: Yeah.
678
00:31:30,445 --> 00:31:33,117
- That, you know,
there could be danger.
679
00:31:33,184 --> 00:31:37,694
♪♪ ♪♪
680
00:31:37,761 --> 00:31:39,631
REPORTER: The victims
were one-time followers
681
00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:41,735
who dared break away
and were cut down
682
00:31:41,801 --> 00:31:43,438
in what is known
as a blood atonement.
683
00:31:43,506 --> 00:31:45,577
This is how authorities
view that atonement
684
00:31:45,643 --> 00:31:46,878
in the indictment.
685
00:31:46,945 --> 00:31:49,183
- Conspiracy to commit
murder for hire,
686
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:50,920
interstate and foreign travel
687
00:31:50,986 --> 00:31:52,557
for the purpose
of murder for hire.
688
00:31:52,624 --> 00:31:54,594
- Prosecutors believe
that they'll be able,
689
00:31:54,661 --> 00:31:56,898
with a conviction,
to get a lengthy sentence
690
00:31:56,965 --> 00:31:58,569
without any probability
of parole.
691
00:31:58,636 --> 00:32:02,777
- Even though they're in prison
under auto-theft charges,
692
00:32:02,844 --> 00:32:05,082
Heber and his associates,
693
00:32:05,149 --> 00:32:07,788
Richard LeBaron
and Doug Barlow,
694
00:32:07,854 --> 00:32:09,390
get put on trial.
695
00:32:09,457 --> 00:32:11,294
- As an assistant
federal public defender,
696
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,599
I was assigned
to represent Heber LeBaron,
697
00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:15,803
the lead defendant
in this case.
698
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:18,942
I did not expect him to be...
699
00:32:19,009 --> 00:32:23,753
as college-kid-looking
as he turned out to be...
700
00:32:23,819 --> 00:32:25,890
nor, in the end,
did I expect him to be
701
00:32:25,957 --> 00:32:28,963
as candid as he was with me.
702
00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:32,804
Heber truly believed...
703
00:32:32,871 --> 00:32:35,977
what his father had told him
and raised him to be.
704
00:32:36,044 --> 00:32:37,547
He believed
that they were obligated
705
00:32:37,614 --> 00:32:40,586
to kill the people
they were told to kill
706
00:32:40,653 --> 00:32:42,289
in order to inherit
707
00:32:42,356 --> 00:32:44,894
all the material
and spiritual wealth
708
00:32:44,961 --> 00:32:46,030
of the world.
709
00:32:46,097 --> 00:32:49,136
♪♪ ♪♪
710
00:32:49,203 --> 00:32:50,472
DAVID:
During the trial,
711
00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:53,111
Heber was as detached
as anything else--
712
00:32:53,178 --> 00:32:55,750
just detached,
not part of this.
713
00:32:55,817 --> 00:32:57,654
I'm above it all.
714
00:32:57,721 --> 00:33:00,092
I'm not going to give this
the dignity
715
00:33:00,158 --> 00:33:02,495
of paying careful attention,
716
00:33:02,563 --> 00:33:04,668
although I think they were
listening very carefully
717
00:33:04,734 --> 00:33:07,841
to everything
that was being said...
718
00:33:07,908 --> 00:33:11,213
particularly when Cynthia
took the witness stand.
719
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,785
♪♪ ♪♪
720
00:33:13,852 --> 00:33:16,457
- I had to deal with the devil,
721
00:33:16,525 --> 00:33:18,763
and I'll stand by that deal.
722
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,365
But without her,
723
00:33:20,432 --> 00:33:23,605
there would have been
no prosecution, none.
724
00:33:24,707 --> 00:33:27,914
DAVID: Cynthia laid things out
just as she had laid them out
725
00:33:27,981 --> 00:33:29,049
for us...
726
00:33:29,116 --> 00:33:31,354
♪♪ ♪♪
727
00:33:31,421 --> 00:33:36,097
Fearlessly, without looking
or sounding intimidated,
728
00:33:36,163 --> 00:33:40,706
nervous, or uncomfortable
in any way...
729
00:33:40,773 --> 00:33:43,612
although I'm sure
she was all three.
730
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,016
♪♪ ♪♪
731
00:33:46,083 --> 00:33:47,820
The trial lasted for four days.
732
00:33:47,887 --> 00:33:50,225
♪♪ ♪♪
733
00:33:50,291 --> 00:33:52,329
At the end of four days,
it was given to the jury.
734
00:33:52,395 --> 00:33:53,766
It was in the jury's hands.
735
00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:57,339
- The outcome was in doubt,
because it's a jury trial,
736
00:33:57,406 --> 00:33:59,611
and we only had to win
one juror's imagination
737
00:33:59,678 --> 00:34:01,648
to hang it up.
738
00:34:01,715 --> 00:34:03,986
- I felt if we did not get
a conviction,
739
00:34:04,053 --> 00:34:06,156
more people were going to die.
740
00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:12,002
- After so much injustice
that followed this family,
741
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:14,473
the verdict comes down,
742
00:34:14,541 --> 00:34:18,381
and it's guilty
for all three perpetrators.
743
00:34:18,448 --> 00:34:22,455
Heber and Doug
get life sentences
744
00:34:22,523 --> 00:34:24,493
for the 4 o'clock murders.
745
00:34:24,561 --> 00:34:26,463
- I think Heber
has killed before,
746
00:34:26,531 --> 00:34:28,602
and I think he enjoyed killing.
747
00:34:28,668 --> 00:34:30,673
So, no, I don't think
life's appropriate.
748
00:34:30,739 --> 00:34:31,875
The death penalty is.
749
00:34:31,941 --> 00:34:35,783
- As for Richard,
he reaches a plea agreement
750
00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:39,189
and serves five years.
751
00:34:39,256 --> 00:34:41,394
- When I found out later
about the verdict
752
00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:43,331
and that they
were going to be spending
753
00:34:43,398 --> 00:34:45,001
a lot of time in prison,
754
00:34:45,068 --> 00:34:46,705
I felt safer.
755
00:34:46,772 --> 00:34:48,809
CELIA: It was better
that they be in prison,
756
00:34:48,876 --> 00:34:51,649
but there are a lot
of mixed emotions.
757
00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,017
- Yes.
758
00:34:53,084 --> 00:34:55,055
- These are people that you
love, that you care about.
759
00:34:55,122 --> 00:34:56,625
It was heart-wrenching.
760
00:34:56,692 --> 00:35:00,800
- I mean, anybody that was
close to the story, I think,
761
00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:03,471
felt a collective relief.
762
00:35:03,539 --> 00:35:06,645
LISA: You know, Heber
did send us a letter
763
00:35:06,711 --> 00:35:08,782
that he wanted to take
responsibility
764
00:35:08,849 --> 00:35:11,420
and acknowledge
for killing our father
765
00:35:11,487 --> 00:35:13,593
and acknowledge the role
766
00:35:13,659 --> 00:35:15,896
that he played
in our mother's death.
767
00:35:15,963 --> 00:35:19,270
♪♪ ♪♪
768
00:35:19,336 --> 00:35:22,209
But I will never forget
our mother,
769
00:35:22,276 --> 00:35:26,150
in her deepest grief,
prayed and forgave him
770
00:35:26,216 --> 00:35:27,954
and told us,
you have to forgive him
771
00:35:28,021 --> 00:35:31,461
and, like, release him,
that God will handle it.
772
00:35:31,528 --> 00:35:34,967
We did not grow up with
the burden of unforgiveness.
773
00:35:35,034 --> 00:35:38,340
And it's
the most tremendous gift
774
00:35:38,407 --> 00:35:40,211
that our mother
really could've ever given us,
775
00:35:40,278 --> 00:35:42,082
as far as I'm concerned.
776
00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:43,619
- Lisa and I have been
through...
777
00:35:43,686 --> 00:35:46,992
- A lot.
- A lot of complex situations.
778
00:35:47,058 --> 00:35:48,562
And, you know, here we are.
779
00:35:48,629 --> 00:35:51,000
We still have
a very close bond,
780
00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:52,368
and I'm very grateful.
- Mm-hmm.
781
00:35:52,435 --> 00:35:55,475
There was just
such profound fear for so long.
782
00:35:55,543 --> 00:35:57,680
So I was like, I'm not going
to let this run my life.
783
00:35:57,747 --> 00:36:00,318
I'm not going to run away
from death
784
00:36:00,385 --> 00:36:01,421
and these gruesome things.
785
00:36:01,487 --> 00:36:03,391
I'm going to...
786
00:36:03,458 --> 00:36:05,094
make it my bitch.
787
00:36:05,161 --> 00:36:08,936
- [chuckling]
788
00:36:09,002 --> 00:36:10,673
- It's hard to decide
789
00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,913
if justice is ever served
when so much is lost,
790
00:36:13,979 --> 00:36:16,751
but I think this was finally
a step in the right direction.
791
00:36:16,818 --> 00:36:19,891
But someone
was still skirting justice.
792
00:36:19,958 --> 00:36:22,062
REPORTER:
Aaron LeBaron, now 24,
793
00:36:22,129 --> 00:36:24,299
leader of the conspiracy,
according to authorities,
794
00:36:24,366 --> 00:36:25,702
still at large in Mexico,
795
00:36:25,769 --> 00:36:27,139
Aaron having been designated
796
00:36:27,205 --> 00:36:29,309
as the grand patriarch
of this violent sect.
797
00:36:29,376 --> 00:36:31,514
♪♪ ♪♪
798
00:36:36,123 --> 00:36:39,296
- In 1995, we learned
that Aaron's been taken
799
00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:41,000
into custody in Mexico.
800
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:43,572
[dramatic music]
801
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,511
- We finally were able
to convince Mexico
802
00:36:46,578 --> 00:36:50,085
to arrest him
and get him extradited.
803
00:36:50,152 --> 00:36:52,055
- I didn't give orders,
804
00:36:52,122 --> 00:36:54,961
neither am I leader of a cult
like the newspapers say.
805
00:36:55,028 --> 00:36:58,669
I'm a...
806
00:36:58,736 --> 00:37:00,873
director of an English school.
807
00:37:00,939 --> 00:37:03,745
I believe in...
808
00:37:03,812 --> 00:37:06,450
giving to other people
and helping other people.
809
00:37:06,518 --> 00:37:09,524
♪♪ ♪♪
810
00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:10,893
DAVID:
I wouldn't look at him
811
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,001
and say, jeez, this guy
is a master criminal.
812
00:37:15,068 --> 00:37:18,642
But then I knew differently.
813
00:37:18,709 --> 00:37:21,447
I knew that he'd had a lot
more to do with all of this
814
00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:24,086
than anybody really believed.
815
00:37:24,153 --> 00:37:26,824
♪♪ ♪♪
816
00:37:26,891 --> 00:37:29,898
- Ervil had indoctrinated
these people for years.
817
00:37:29,965 --> 00:37:32,302
We're, like, two
generations in now.
818
00:37:32,368 --> 00:37:34,941
When you've been indoctrinated
your entire life
819
00:37:35,008 --> 00:37:38,281
to believe that murder
is a godly act,
820
00:37:38,348 --> 00:37:41,754
that really complicates
your morality.
821
00:37:41,821 --> 00:37:44,060
TERRY:
He was tried and convicted
822
00:37:44,126 --> 00:37:46,698
because he was the intellectual
author of the homicides.
823
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:48,401
He was the one
that put it in motion.
824
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:50,773
And he was sentenced
to 45 years in prison.
825
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,716
♪♪ ♪♪
826
00:37:55,782 --> 00:37:58,889
- I never met Ervil LeBaron
in the flesh,
827
00:37:58,955 --> 00:38:00,425
but I lived and worked
828
00:38:00,492 --> 00:38:03,231
in the shadow of his ghost
for years
829
00:38:03,297 --> 00:38:04,968
and didn't stop
830
00:38:05,035 --> 00:38:09,243
until after the conviction
of Aaron in Texas.
831
00:38:09,310 --> 00:38:11,313
- It's hard to get
an exact count
832
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:13,885
in the wake
of this 30-year crime spree,
833
00:38:13,952 --> 00:38:17,894
but we do know that
around 33 people were killed,
834
00:38:17,961 --> 00:38:21,233
somewhere around
9 completed suicide,
835
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,371
and countless others suffered
836
00:38:23,438 --> 00:38:26,712
at the hands
of all of this violence.
837
00:38:26,778 --> 00:38:29,584
- As long as that
doggone book's out there,
838
00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:32,524
The Book of the Covenant...
839
00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:35,562
there's always a potential for
someone to pick it up and say,
840
00:38:35,629 --> 00:38:38,067
I'm the one mighty
and strong now,
841
00:38:38,134 --> 00:38:41,173
and that should be
a concern to everyone.
842
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,979
♪♪ ♪♪
843
00:38:44,046 --> 00:38:47,553
- Colonia LeBaron,
where Ervil first started out,
844
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:49,156
still exists today.
845
00:38:49,223 --> 00:38:50,692
The people living there
846
00:38:50,759 --> 00:38:53,097
are trying to put the past
behind them.
847
00:38:53,163 --> 00:38:55,703
And then 2019 happens.
848
00:38:55,769 --> 00:38:58,140
- Families mourning
after a brutal massacre--
849
00:38:58,207 --> 00:39:01,314
three mothers and six
of their children killed.
850
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:04,286
- The LeBarons find themselves
in the headlines again
851
00:39:04,352 --> 00:39:06,256
for murder and death.
852
00:39:06,323 --> 00:39:08,795
♪♪ ♪♪
853
00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:10,866
Three cars
are crossing the border
854
00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:15,141
from Mexico into Texas
when the cars are ambushed.
855
00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:18,080
♪♪ ♪♪
856
00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:21,286
And inside the cars are women,
857
00:39:21,353 --> 00:39:24,527
mothers, and their children.
858
00:39:24,594 --> 00:39:26,430
- At first, I thought
to myself, oh, my God,
859
00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,000
is the cult back?
860
00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:30,438
Is this the new chapter?
861
00:39:30,506 --> 00:39:31,842
Since then, it seems clear
862
00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,045
that other factors
have been at work.
863
00:39:34,112 --> 00:39:36,083
REPORTER: Mexican officials
believe they were caught
864
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,555
in the crosshairs
of cartel violence,
865
00:39:38,622 --> 00:39:40,726
saying that a criminal gang
confused them
866
00:39:40,793 --> 00:39:44,867
for a group aligned
with the Sinaloa Cartel.
867
00:39:44,934 --> 00:39:48,207
- It's just so sad, because
these families living there
868
00:39:48,274 --> 00:39:51,514
completely disavow
Ervil's teachings.
869
00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:53,417
And yet, it seems like
870
00:39:53,484 --> 00:39:57,459
the sort of curse of LeBaron
murderers isn't going away.
871
00:39:57,527 --> 00:40:03,906
♪♪ ♪♪
872
00:40:03,972 --> 00:40:06,377
[soft music playing
on television]
873
00:40:06,444 --> 00:40:13,591
♪♪ ♪♪
874
00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:21,474
ADINE:
Oh, my God.
875
00:40:21,541 --> 00:40:23,946
CELIA: So they have to start
with Los Molinos?
876
00:40:24,012 --> 00:40:26,183
FAYE: This is Los Molinos.
CELIA: Oh, God.
877
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:27,920
ADINE:
Oh, my gosh.
878
00:40:27,987 --> 00:40:30,391
- There was a made-for-TV movie
that came out in the early '90s
879
00:40:30,458 --> 00:40:31,894
called Prophet of Evil.
880
00:40:31,961 --> 00:40:33,965
It was about our father, Ervil.
881
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,773
♪♪ ♪♪
882
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,244
CELIA: Oh, man.
ANNA: This is horrible.
883
00:40:40,311 --> 00:40:43,017
ADINE:
That's terrible.
884
00:40:43,084 --> 00:40:45,723
- Watching it now,
it's just horrifying
885
00:40:45,789 --> 00:40:49,063
how much violence there was
886
00:40:49,129 --> 00:40:50,833
in our family history.
887
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,171
- Just heart-wrenching to see
888
00:40:53,238 --> 00:40:55,976
because they're representing
people that I love.
889
00:40:56,043 --> 00:40:59,149
So it's hard to see what
they've done with their lives.
890
00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:01,654
- And the thing is that
they were just brainwashed.
891
00:41:01,721 --> 00:41:04,326
And when you take away
that brainwashing,
892
00:41:04,392 --> 00:41:06,330
we were always good people.
893
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:10,471
[somber music]
894
00:41:10,539 --> 00:41:12,175
FAYE: The places
that they're showing there
895
00:41:12,241 --> 00:41:14,145
are way too nice.
- I know.
896
00:41:14,212 --> 00:41:15,448
[laughter]
897
00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:18,154
- We did not live
this nice, okay?
898
00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:19,156
- Something was bumping me,
899
00:41:19,223 --> 00:41:20,926
and I couldn't
figure out what it was.
900
00:41:20,993 --> 00:41:22,797
It's just this really nice
house, well kept, maintained.
901
00:41:22,863 --> 00:41:24,701
ANNA: And we weren't
even allowed outside!
902
00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:27,706
HYRUM: With white picket fence.
[laughter]
903
00:41:28,909 --> 00:41:32,650
- Through it all, I never
really lost my faith.
904
00:41:32,717 --> 00:41:35,555
I always had
a relationship with God.
905
00:41:37,292 --> 00:41:40,364
I have 10 children,
21 grandchildren,
906
00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:42,703
and it just tickles my heart
907
00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:45,408
to be with them
and play with them.
908
00:41:45,474 --> 00:41:48,080
And even though I went
through all that crap,
909
00:41:48,147 --> 00:41:51,721
I'm a very happy person,
and I have a very happy life.
910
00:41:51,788 --> 00:41:53,859
♪♪ ♪♪
911
00:41:53,926 --> 00:41:56,430
- Oh, there's the Mexican
jail where you were...
912
00:41:56,497 --> 00:41:59,336
BOTH: Conceived!
[laughter]
913
00:41:59,403 --> 00:42:02,576
- I wanted to become a nurse,
914
00:42:02,643 --> 00:42:07,185
but my life was set out for me
by religious doctrine.
915
00:42:07,252 --> 00:42:10,726
So I didn't think
I was smart enough.
916
00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:14,065
I didn't think
that was possible.
917
00:42:14,132 --> 00:42:16,905
But now as an adult,
I became a nurse,
918
00:42:16,972 --> 00:42:19,677
and I recently became
a master gardener.
919
00:42:19,744 --> 00:42:22,215
If that little girl
could just see me now...
920
00:42:23,886 --> 00:42:26,624
CHILDREN: Kill the police.
Kill the police.
921
00:42:26,691 --> 00:42:28,929
Kill the police.
Kill the police.
922
00:42:28,996 --> 00:42:30,498
- No way would
that ever happen.
923
00:42:30,566 --> 00:42:33,470
- We were taught to say...
CELIA AND ANNA: I don't know!
924
00:42:33,538 --> 00:42:35,141
I don't know!
925
00:42:35,208 --> 00:42:37,713
[laughter]
926
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:39,650
- Currently,
my beliefs about religion
927
00:42:39,717 --> 00:42:41,721
is basically an atheist.
928
00:42:41,788 --> 00:42:43,992
I think all religions
are cults.
929
00:42:44,059 --> 00:42:47,398
It's just
some are better than others.
930
00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:50,405
♪♪ ♪♪
931
00:42:50,471 --> 00:42:54,714
I'm a Sergeant First Class
in the U.S. Army.
932
00:42:54,781 --> 00:42:56,483
I've deployed four times.
933
00:42:56,551 --> 00:42:58,788
♪♪ ♪♪
934
00:42:58,855 --> 00:43:03,231
I try to be beneficial
to humanity and the planet.
935
00:43:03,297 --> 00:43:06,002
- You were considered
the military leader--
936
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:07,673
- Oh, that's Bryan Cranston
right there.
937
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:08,875
CELIA: Oh, my God!
Breaking Bad!
938
00:43:08,942 --> 00:43:10,011
- Wait.
Rewind, rewind!
939
00:43:10,077 --> 00:43:12,783
ANNA: Who is he?
CELIA: Breaking Bad!
940
00:43:12,850 --> 00:43:14,152
HYRUM: He's only one
of the most famous--
941
00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:15,421
ADINE: The guy
from Malcolm in the Middle!
942
00:43:15,488 --> 00:43:16,925
Yes!
Oh, my God.
943
00:43:16,991 --> 00:43:18,093
HYRUM: I didn't know
who he was the first time
944
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,597
I watched this 20 years ago.
ANNA: What?
945
00:43:19,664 --> 00:43:22,135
This is where he
made his big debut.
946
00:43:22,202 --> 00:43:24,574
- Debut.
947
00:43:24,641 --> 00:43:28,648
- It's been over 40 years since
I escaped my father's cult.
948
00:43:28,715 --> 00:43:32,022
♪♪ ♪♪
949
00:43:32,088 --> 00:43:34,359
I mean, it was a shock to me
950
00:43:34,426 --> 00:43:38,702
when I learned that what we had
experienced is called trauma.
951
00:43:38,769 --> 00:43:42,543
To be able to grow and become
the person that I am today,
952
00:43:42,610 --> 00:43:44,947
to heal enough
953
00:43:45,014 --> 00:43:48,087
that I was able to write
my own story
954
00:43:48,154 --> 00:43:51,359
and to publish my book...
955
00:43:51,426 --> 00:43:53,965
I want to be an inspiration
to others--
956
00:43:54,032 --> 00:43:58,240
anyone who's experienced
abuse, neglect, abandonment.
957
00:43:58,307 --> 00:44:00,846
Those things don't have
to define us today.
958
00:44:00,913 --> 00:44:03,685
♪♪ ♪♪
959
00:44:03,752 --> 00:44:06,858
I have overcome
all of the odds,
960
00:44:06,925 --> 00:44:09,396
and here I am.
961
00:44:09,463 --> 00:44:12,001
So it's me and Hyrum
that are in the movie so far.
962
00:44:12,068 --> 00:44:14,039
- Yes.
- We were in the Veracruz raid!
963
00:44:14,105 --> 00:44:16,143
CELIA: Not specifically,
but you were one of those kids.
964
00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:19,617
Hyrum assisted
by opening the door.
965
00:44:19,684 --> 00:44:22,756
- Thanks, Hyrum.
966
00:44:22,823 --> 00:44:26,463
- I ran away
from the cult 36 years ago,
967
00:44:26,531 --> 00:44:29,803
and I never turned back.
968
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:32,776
I have three grown children.
969
00:44:32,843 --> 00:44:35,014
I have a career in finance.
970
00:44:35,081 --> 00:44:38,755
And in my process,
I had to evaluate
971
00:44:38,822 --> 00:44:42,161
every belief that I had,
972
00:44:42,228 --> 00:44:45,234
every thought, practically,
that went through my mind
973
00:44:45,301 --> 00:44:49,243
and look at it and say,
do I really believe this?
974
00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:51,647
Or is this what
I was taught to believe?
975
00:44:51,714 --> 00:44:56,457
♪♪ ♪♪
976
00:44:56,525 --> 00:44:58,227
NARRATOR ON TV:
Since Ervil LeBaron's death,
977
00:44:58,293 --> 00:45:00,164
his children and members
of his church
978
00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:02,736
have committed
15 additional murders.
979
00:45:02,803 --> 00:45:05,876
His legacy has continued.
980
00:45:05,943 --> 00:45:07,646
- But no more!
- Not anymore.
981
00:45:07,713 --> 00:45:10,886
ANNA: No more.
- No more.
982
00:45:10,953 --> 00:45:12,856
ANNA:
There's no telling this story
983
00:45:12,923 --> 00:45:15,762
without bringing up this past.
984
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:19,102
♪♪ ♪♪
985
00:45:19,169 --> 00:45:22,309
CELIA: I am ready now
to embrace the wholeness
986
00:45:22,375 --> 00:45:24,213
of who I am
987
00:45:24,279 --> 00:45:28,354
and what it means today
to be a LeBaron.
988
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:29,791
- Mm-hmm.
989
00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:32,128
- It's something
that I'm proud of.
990
00:45:32,195 --> 00:45:35,935
- It's been over 30 years.
991
00:45:36,002 --> 00:45:40,679
- Ervil's children
are not about that anymore.
992
00:45:40,745 --> 00:45:43,417
- Ervil's children are
the ones who want all of that
993
00:45:43,484 --> 00:45:45,990
to stop more than everyone.
CELIA: Yeah.
994
00:45:46,056 --> 00:45:48,026
- I promise you that.
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