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- [Narrator] Sea level rise is one
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of the most serious consequences
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of the human-induced climate crisis.
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The water rise is from heat expansion
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of the oceans, melting polar
caps, vanishing glaciers
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and the loss of fresh water.
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Satellites are an essential
tool to monitor the changes
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and help climate modelers
prepare us for the future.
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(exciting music)
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(thoughtful music)
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NOAA's GOES-T satellite
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in geosynchronous orbit
is a recent edition
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of the next generation of satellite.
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It is the western hemisphere's
most sophisticated
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weather observing and
environmental monitoring system
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covering over half the globe.
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Along with the decades long
Sentinel series of satellites.
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Sentinel-6, a collaboration of European
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and US space agencies and
climate monitoring institutes
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is continuing the mission
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of uninterrupted
sophisticated data gathering
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for climate scientists and modelers.
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- Well, the main instruments on board
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include a dual frequency radar altimeter
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and this is the primary
instrument of the mission
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and that's the one that's
measuring sea surface height,
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significant wave height and
wind speed over the ocean.
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And from those measurements
we can actually have
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the superb measurements that
we expect of sea level rise,
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but also the waves, the
significant wave height
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which is the top one third of
the waves if you were to look
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at them in time, so the biggest
waves that you would see.
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This is important for marine operations
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and the altimeters provide perhaps some
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of them the best datasets
that we have today
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over the global ocean.
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We have plenty of boys in
the ocean that measure waves
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but they're often in the coastal zone.
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And it's only when you go to the altimetry
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that you can really have
is this global coverage.
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- We all know sea level is rising.
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And how do we know that?
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Because we measured
this since the nineties
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from space through a series of satellite.
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It started with TOPEX/Poseidon
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which was a French American
satellite, followed
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by the Jason-1, two and three series
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which was also French American satellite.
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And Sentinel-6, as you said
also called Jason-CS, stands
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for continuity of service
is meant to go in orbit
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to follow Jason-3 to continue
the record of the sea level
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since about 30 years.
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And we want to continue that
record for another five years
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and demonstrate and
quantify the sea level rise
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we have been observing since the nineties
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in average about 3.2 millimeters per year.
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Even though the scientist tells us
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in the last year this
has been accelerating
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in particular due to the
acceleration in melting of ice.
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So over the last years it's
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about four millimeters
every year we record
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in the sea level.
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- We talk about the impact of
melting snow and ice surfaces
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in terms of what's known
as the albedo effect.
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When snow is dry, it's very reflective
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and of course that helps to
reflect sunlight back out
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into space and the consequence
is we can reduce the amount
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of melting this way.
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However, as ice and snow melt, the albedo
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and the reflectivity becomes
lower and this has the effect
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of absorbing more of the solar energy.
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This contributes to further
warming and further melting.
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And so it's a runaway
progressive effect caused
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by the reduction in the albedo.
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- Satellites are a major source
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of global timely long-term data sets
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which is in particular
very important for climate
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because we need to have
long-term data series
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to actually understand how
the climate is changing
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over decades, for example
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and to also understand what the trend
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of these changes are going to be.
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And so we are using a large
variety of different data sets.
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We're mainly concentrating
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on the European Space Agencies data sets.
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between data sets that come
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from a Heritage Mission,
like for instance ENVISAT
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and ERS because we are
looking also back of course
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in terms of climate.
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But we're also using data
that are coming in right now
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for example, from the Sentinel's
missions that are running
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under the Copernicus program
that we are running together
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or collaborating with the European Union
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and EUMETSAT together.
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But we're also using
actually quite new technology
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and satellites that address
scientific questions
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that haven't been addressed before.
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So it's a mixture of
different data sources
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that we are trying to combine
in these climate data records.
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- What we do is we also work
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with partner agencies worldwide.
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So we exchange data
over climate, we do work
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on calibration activities,
we support activities linked
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to, for example ice
loss volume monitoring.
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And we have done that with the US partners
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over IMBIE campaign
over the Arctic region.
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- [Narrator] To calibrate the satellites
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in orbit, scientists on the
ground take measurements
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in-situ all around the
globe from the Antarctic
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to the Arctic and
glaciers around the world.
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They then compare results and
validate the satellite data.
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- And we are producing
climate data records.
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So long-term data records of
climate relevant indicators,
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let's say, one of them you see behind me.
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We are also producing climate data records
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for glaciers in particular the extent
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of the glacier, the velocity,
but also the elevation.
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- The ice loss in the
Alps is comparably strong.
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So we have similar
strong mass loss I think
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in the Andes of Peru and Bolivia
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but also in Patagonia
they have similar rates.
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But the most difficult thing
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or problematic thing is
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that this ice loss in the
Alps is still increasing.
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So now I think for something
like 30, 35 years we see higher
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and higher loss.
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And this takes place despite
the fact that the region
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where ice can melt,
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the so-called ablation
region is shrinking.
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And this is a very strong signal
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for accelerated climate change
and an increased forcing
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which means that
temperatures have to increase
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and increase and push the snow line higher
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and higher so that more
areas are exposed to melt.
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- Those projections tell us
what glaciers will look like.
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What they will look like very much depends
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on what we human beings will we do next
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in terms of greenhouse gas emissions.
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So if we manage to mitigate
climate change very much,
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we'll have glaciers that will still shrink
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but will shrink a lot less than
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if we don't manage to get hold
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of this climate crisis that
is literally unfolding.
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So in the worst case where really
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or emissions will
continue to grow unabated
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until the end of the
century, well, this place
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where we're standing is
gonna be ice free for sure
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but even the highest
elevation that we see here,
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they are most likely be ice free as well.
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On the contrary, if we now
really manage to put effort
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in abating emissions
we'll be able to save say,
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at least 40% of the ice.
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So half of this place is gone anyway
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but still there will be
something that we can look at
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and that we can show to our children
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and that our childrens can
show to our grandchildren.
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- I think the recent
record since CryoSat, one
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of our satellites has
been flying has shown
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that there's quite some fluctuation
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in the amount of ice transferred
from land to the ocean.
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However, we have seen
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that sea level rise has been accelerating
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over the last several years.
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One of the reasons is
thought to be related
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to the increased melting of land glaciers
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and a recent publication has shown
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that in fact the contribution
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of glaciers to sea level
rise is increasing.
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And we've gone from a
situation in the 1970s
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and eighties where it was
contributing only a fraction
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of a millimeter a year
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to something closer to
one millimeter a year.
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This is around 20, 25%
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of the sea level rise signal globally.
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And so glaciers are obviously having
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an increasing contribution
to sea level rise
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over the last two decades.
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- The European Space Agency is doing a lot
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in providing the evidence
for a changing climate.
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If you think about the
Earth Observation Program
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for example, I think the majority
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of activities are really directly
addressing this question.
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And it starts at the perceiving
new satellite measurements.
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So, one of the core activities
of the European Space Agency
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in the Earth Observation Program is
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of course to build satellites
and there's different flavors
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of these satellites that
address new technologies,
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new scientific questions like
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for instance the earth explorers.
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But then there is the Sentinel missions
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that we are developing in collaboration
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with the European Union and
with EUMETSAT who provide,
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for example continuity on
many of these measurements
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but also improve over coming
decades because we have a lot
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of experience in these measurements.
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And I think, so we're doing
in ISSA I think something
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it's almost like covering
the entire food chain
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of providing climate relevant information.
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And I think this is quite an amazing fact
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because we really follow through
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from the beginning of the measurement up
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to the point where we're actually talking
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to the people who put
the policies in place.
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And I think that's a
really good foundation
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that we're providing from
the ISSA's perspective.
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- So when you fly around the earth
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at 400 kilometers you
have a very unique point
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of view that is at the same
time a privilege and a curse.
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It is a privilege because
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of course not many people get to do it.
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Not many people get to fly in space
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and look down at the earth.
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It is a curse because what you see is
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at the same time so beautiful
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and so fragile that it
certainly breaks your heart.
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And it is what inspired
me to start talking about
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what is happening on planet Earth
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and about everything that
we take for granted today.
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And as a matter of fact, that same feeling
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of helplessness and desire
to do something I felt
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in this past couple of days,
talking to the scientists,
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talking to the explorers and
being myself part of the group
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on this glacier and looking
with my eyes, touching
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with my hands, the same
things that I felt from space.
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So if I had to summarize the feelings
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which is always hard
because feelings don't come
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in a linear way, they're
always very mixed up.
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I feel a little bit of urgency
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and because it's me,
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I also feel hope that people will listen
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and understand the urgency
of what is happening
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and how fast we have to react
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before everything that
we have will disappear.
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- Low lying regions of the world
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of course are going to suffer
the most from this kind
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of impact in terms of ice
melt and sea level rise.
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Of course, countries like
Bangladesh already suffering
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from the increased probability
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of storm surges as sea level rises.
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And coastal inundation is a problem
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for millions of people in Bangladesh.
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We also see it in more
developed countries.
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We have a situation in
Venice during seasons
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of the year where tidal range
and storm surges combined
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with sea level rise to cause
what's known as acqua alta.
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And there the whole of the
city of Venice is inundated
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by water on a regular basis
during these periods of time.
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So I think the societal
impact of coastal inundation
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and flooding can affect
millions of people in the future
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and so we need to monitor the effects
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of melting ice and sea level rise.
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- We got the long term data
and we got the long term trend
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and we now finally realize that
you have the long term trend
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but you also have
superposed local variations.
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So some years it stops and
other years it goes very quick.
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So it's a really very dynamic system
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and that just really means
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that we have to have a
continuous monitoring from space.
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- I believe that there is
an awareness that is growing
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but is not enough yet.
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So water being probably
one of the resources
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that we really need to check
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and we are here because of that.
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Water has a cycle that
we have interfered with.
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Ice turns into water, turns
into atmospheric water
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and it accelerates hurricanes,
it accelerate flooding,
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it's all connected and we have
interfered with that cycle.
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So now we have to do
something to take a step back.
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But one of the things
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that we can do is preservation
without pollution.
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So little steps that everybody
can do, have a bottle
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of water and reuse it instead
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of continuing buying
extra new bottles of water
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and polluting the Earth with the plastic
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and using extra water that we don't need.
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We can live on very little water.
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We are just don't used to do
it because we don't think it
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and we don't think about it
and we take it for granted.
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I believe that the
perspective that I have comes
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from the awareness that on
the space session we live
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on very limited resources.
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We have to recycle them and we have
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to respect that awareness.
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- What we're doing in the climate office
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and not just in the climate office but
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in the European Space Agency
Earth Observation Program
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at large is I think you know 90, 99%
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supporting the cause of understanding A,
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of what our climate is doing,
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how our climate is changing and that
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in turn can actually inform
policy makers to take action
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of what needs to be done to
either mitigate that effect,
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so basically, for
example, limit emissions,
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or to adapt to things that
we cannot change anymore.
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It's a very important physical evidence
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to give decision makers
and policy makers a base
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to come up with plans of
how we address this issue.
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(water gurgling)
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- Ice is changing a lot
and ice is melting a lot.
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Whether it's a problem of
course long term it's a problem
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because the sea level ice will go up.
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But it's also to some
degree an opportunity
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for some of the Arctic countries
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that they can develop their countries.
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So it's climate change,
monitor what is happening,
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make sure we can give
a qualified statement,
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and especially this
space is very important
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to give a qualified statement
of what is really happening
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and not just some model prediction
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or some fancy outlook
which could be way off.
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So I think we are the guys
who give the hardcore facts
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and as you say, I've
been here for many years.
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I've seen the change
on my own eyes because
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before we even got involved
with European Space Agency,
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we did a lot of airborne,
a lot of mapping work.
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We met with the first satellites already
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in the very late 1970s
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as the very first users of
satellite navigation, namely
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for mapping remote and distant areas.
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So it's been really amazing to see
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and also amazing to see the
changes and changes are big.
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- [Interviewer] Yeah.
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- No doubt about that.
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- And we are reproducing
these data sets also
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for the benefit of addressing
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these international climate drivers so
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that we actually know where
we're standing at the moment
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in terms of the state of the
climate and what actions need
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to be taken in the
future in terms of policy
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and decision making and
adaptation and mitigation actions
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for example, in the future.
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- Because of the availability
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of information that we are
constantly bombarded with
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there is a general feeling
that we can all be experts
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and at everything and come
up with our own opinion.
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I don't want to dismiss anybody's opinion
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but I do want to listen
to what experts and people
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who have devoted their lives
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to a certain study have to say.
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Now it's a cycle.
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We have scientists who
use their instruments
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to gather data, study those
data and come out with a theory.
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And once they come out with
a theory and everybody agrees
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to it, then we should
probably listen to that.
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And how do they get those instruments?
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How do they gather that data?
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Well there is a whole community
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of people, technicians,
engineers, astronauts, operators
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that work constantly, incessantly
to create the instruments
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and to position them and
to create the basis so
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that the data can be
collected in the correct way.
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- The sea level will go
up, no doubt about that.
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So people in Holland and
the very low lying areas,
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they should have good
reasons to be concerned.
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So do we in Denmark.
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But again, right now
it's only 10 centimeters.
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So we are talking 2,100, we talk anywhere
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between 30, 40 centimeter and a meter,
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then it's a little bit more concerning.
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And again, that's where this
long term space mission,
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they would tell these
people who make the modeling
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and the prediction in the future,
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if they made the modeling
earlier, will it really fit
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what we see today?
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If you take all the data
today, will it fit in 10 years?
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That's why you have the big
value of these continuous data
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and also the continuous
measurements really
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of do the satellites
measure the right thing?
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Is the radar really measuring the surface?
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Or it's measuring
somewhere else on the ice?
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That's all the thick questions
we are concerned with.
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- [Narrator] Most scientists
agree we are past the point
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of no return.
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Now the focus is on trying
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to mitigate the most serious
effects on the planet.
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- So it is a concern of course
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and eventually we should
do something about it.
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And again, the space mission can tell you
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in the long run, if you
change something in the CO2,
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the political side, will it really matter?
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And for instance, the CO2
also in the Copernicus Program
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and the ESA missions,
you have CO2 missions
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which are really useful
to actually pinpoint
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who are the bad guys in this game,
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who is not cutting back eventually.
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- As a scientist, I
think we can provide data
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and the satellite data help us to do so.
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The issue with the glaciers
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and the shrinking glaciers
is a global scale phenomenon
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where people are really concerned that
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in the future there is no
more ice or much less ice.
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And what we can provide as
scientists is solid data
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about how much ice there is,
how the ice masses change
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and maybe when you do some
computer modeling also
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how much ice there will be in the future.
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And over the past 20, 30 years,
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I think the reporting from us was more
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and more, yes, they are shrinking
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and they just are shrinking
globally and they do it stronger
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and stronger and we can
repeat this information again
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and again and have it in IPCC reports
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and say, hey, there's a problem
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but of course in the end it depends
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if this message is picked
up and converted to action.
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And here is very soon the
place where the engagement
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of scientists end because
this is a political thing.
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And what we can do is
provide the best data
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and the best uncertainty
information we can get
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and say really we are sure about this
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and about this and about this
and not so sure about this
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and then politicians have to decide on
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if they want to do something about it
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and we hope that at some
point this will happen.
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