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The Mexican authorities
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conduct this raid
to get Ervil.
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They find Rena Chynoweth and,
weirdly enough, Daniel Jordan.
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They're arrested.
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They have Rena Chynoweth
in a prison cell.
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And apparently,
Rena is taunting them.
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- By the time
the Mexican authorities
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realize their mistake,
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they go back, and of course,
Ervil's long gone.
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It's just a stunning failure
for law enforcement.
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If you believe in the
One Mighty and Strong idea,
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well, Ervil seems to be
the living embodiment of it.
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Ervil is a dangerous,
unhinged prophet.
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He's been connected
to at least nine murders.
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But Ervil wasn't
gonna stop there.
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He was capable
of killing anyone.
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- Ervil is as dangerous
as any man alive
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and won't stop until he wipes
out all rival polygamists.
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- Everyone's on edge
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because Ervil
is still out there.
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- They caught Dan
in that apartment
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because Dan was
pretending to be Ervil.
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Yes.
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They thought he was Ervil.
- I was there too.
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And I was there, and--
Yes.
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- So what do you remember
about it?
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- I remember sleeping,
and somebody comes
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and starts pounding
on the door really hard.
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And I woke up
in the middle of the night
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and walked over to the door
and opened it.
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And, uh, I remember them,
like, hitting people.
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This is my first time
I had been in a--in a house
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when it was raided.
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Gotta be about six years old.
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And that memory of me
opening that door...
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Just haunted me
for just years and years.
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In my child brain,
I extrapolated
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that I was responsible.
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This one's a tough one.
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- Besides opening the door,
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what do you
remember about that?
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- I remember
they were pretty brutal.
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The--I guess
they were Federales.
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- They were
ransacking the house
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and taking whatever they
wanted of our belongings.
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It was very frightening
for a nine-year-old child--
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and Hyrum is six---
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to watch these events unfold
right in front of our eyes.
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Very violent things
were happening around me.
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They did whatever they wanted,
and they knew they could.
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After Rena and Dan are
arrested, the Federales left.
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The apartment was ransacked.
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The next thing we know,
Hyrum and I
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are being whisked out the door
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with another member
of the cult.
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We had no idea
where we were going.
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We just drove
for a long, long time.
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We get to this
little tiny apartment.
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The door opens.
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And it's Ramona.
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And after so long of being
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just mistreated
the way we were
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and finding her,
and her embracing me,
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she was such a safe haven.
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We had no idea
that Ramona was also wanted
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for the murder of Rulon Allred,
along with Rena.
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- Allred, leader of a group
of thousands of polygamists
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in Utah and surrounding states,
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was killed
in a hail of gunfire.
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Ramona Marston
jumped bail and disappeared,
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accused of murder and
conspiracy to commit murder.
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- Ramona never talked
about Rena or my father.
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The last I heard about Rena
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was when she had been
arrested in the raid.
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- The Feds want Rena Chynoweth
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extradited to the United States
immediately.
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They wanna lock her up.
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So the Mexican authorities
take her straight to Laredo
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to get her across the border.
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- They get Rena to the border.
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And then just like
you see in the movies...
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The FBI agents are waiting for
her there on the other side.
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- The FBI today
arrested a key suspect,
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20-year-old Rena Chynoweth
at the International Bridge
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in Laredo, Texas.
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Chynoweth is charged
with first-degree murder
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and conspiracy to murder
in the Allred case.
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Authorities have
described the killing
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as a religious assassination
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ordered by the fanatic
Ervil LeBaron,
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the leader
of a rival polygamist cult.
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More and more people
are looking for Ervil.
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They start putting up
wanted posters.
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He has to go
further into hiding.
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And he's running for his life.
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- I did not realize
that Rena was on trial
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for the murder of Rulon Allred.
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At the time, I lived with
Mark and Lillian in Mexico.
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Lillian was our
older half-sister,
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and Mark was Rena's brother.
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Mark and Lillian were devoted
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and very much in love
with each other.
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Their love story
was a very sweet, tender one.
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Mark was one of the very
few men in our lives
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who set a really good example
of treating your wife
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with respect and treating
young teenage girls
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not as potential wives,
but as young girls
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that needed to be brought up.
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- Police suspect Mark Chynoweth
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for being the triggerman
for the cult.
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Mark was involved
in multiple murders
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and the Los Molinos raid,
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where Ervil's followers
killed two people
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and shot many others.
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- This is nothing
Mark would have ever done
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if it would have been
of his own free will.
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It was purely brainwashing
and indoctrination
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and fear and the power
that was held over him.
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Mark and Lillian were true
believers of Ervil LeBaron.
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Whatever our father asked,
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Mark and Lillian obeyed.
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They were there to establish
the Kingdom of God on Earth.
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Shortly after the raid,
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Mark and Lillian began
packing up their things.
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And we were
going to move again.
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And Lillian seemed upset
and distressed about having--
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not knowing where she's going.
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Eventually,
we arrived to the U.S. border.
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I didn't know
what was going on with her,
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but she was not happy
with what was happening.
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Mark got out of the car.
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He told the Border Patrol
who he was...
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And that he was wanted
for questioning
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for the murder of Rulon Allred.
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And so they took him
into custody.
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He's in handcuffs.
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Before I could really even
register what was happening...
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Mark put on a bright smile
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and was waving with the hands
in handcuffs behind him
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to make sure that
we didn't get the impression
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that anything bad
was happening.
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So I was very, very confused.
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He was turning himself in
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so that he could testify
on Rena's behalf.
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He was such a true,
strong believer
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that he was willing
to turn himself in
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because he knew
God would prevail.
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- Murder case investigators say
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is the longest-running,
most expensive in Utah history
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began nearly two years ago
with the shooting death
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of polygamist leader
Dr. Rulon Allred.
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The investigation led
to rival polygamist
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cult leader Ervil LeBaron.
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LeBaron is still a fugitive,
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but some of his followers
have been captured
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and will stand trial.
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Police believe
on his orders,
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Rena Chynoweth,
his 20-year-old wife,
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and Ramona Marston, his
stepdaughter, killed Allred,
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aided by Rena's brothers,
Mark and Victor Chynoweth,
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and Ramona's brother,
Eddie Marston.
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- After my father's murder
and funeral,
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we began hearing reports
that some of Ervil's followers
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had been arrested.
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But I want them to get Ervil.
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Just moments ago,
a woman who's said to be
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one of the 13 wives
of Ervil LeBaron
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was bound over for trial in
the murder of Dr. Rulon Allred.
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During the trial
for Rulon Allred,
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people feared Ervil,
feared what he was capable of.
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- Some of the police involved,
some of the investigators,
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prosecutors
had received threats.
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There was FBI coverage,
security.
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It was a very tense scene.
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Assistant County
Attorney David Yocom
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says he doesn't rule out
the possibility of violence.
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- There will be, uh,
guards on the door,
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and, uh, the court
has ordered that, uh,
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there be close security
in the trial.
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The leader was still out there.
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We feared that Ervil
ordered them
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to kill any number
of our witnesses.
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Ervil's executions
had been very bold,
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and so it had everyone asking
if he would be bold enough
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to attack the courtroom.
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Even though Ervil
isn't on trial,
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his presence
is looming everywhere.
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- During the trial, I was
living with Ramona in Mexico.
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Ramona never mentioned anything
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about the trial
that was happening.
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- I was already back
in the U.S.
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It was always explained to me
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that God would look out
for them,
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that they would surely
be found innocent,
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and that we could expect them
to come home.
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Although
four people were on trial,
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everyone was focused
on the triggerwoman, Rena.
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The jury was made up
of mostly women.
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Rena's lawyers knew this.
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Rena was a young,
pregnant plural wife
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victimized by this bad guy.
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- Rena got on the stand
and said she had never heard
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of Dr. Allred before.
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She didn't know anything about
the murder until afterward.
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- It was hard to figure out
what role she had played in it.
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- But I knew she was
the cold-blooded killer.
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Difficult to cross-examine
someone like that.
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You just want to tear into 'em
and rip 'em apart.
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But you can't.
You can't do that.
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- People in Ervil's group
are paying attention
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to how this is
being reported on TV.
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New threats start coming in.
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One juror
had told the bailiff
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that he was frightened.
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He had thought people
were following him,
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which, to me, meant this juror
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was being intimidated
indirectly.
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It's up to the jury in what
they call a penalty phase
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of the case
to determine the penalty,
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and there's only two choices.
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One, death,
which is a possibility,
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as well as the other one,
life imprisonment.
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- The jury deliberates
for only four hours.
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They come out.
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And before they
read the verdict...
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The judge tells the courtroom,
"I will have no outbursts."
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And they find Rena Chynoweth...
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Not guilty.
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Rena, Mark Chynoweth,
Victor Chynoweth,
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and Eddie Marston
were all acquitted.
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- The jury couldn't convict
Rena for several reasons.
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First, no witnesses
could positively ID her.
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And second,
Rena appeared to be a victim
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under Ervil's control.
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But there were other theories
as well, like intimidation.
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- How did they all get off?
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I had no idea
how that could have happened.
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This cult was a
big threat to a lot of people,
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and it only takes
one juror to acquit.
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- I really don't remember
Rulon Allred's trial.
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But I remember
when it was done,
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they came back and said
that Rena had been acquitted.
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And that was, like,
a huge relief.
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We gave all the credit
to God for that.
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The result of Rena's trial
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isn't just the heartache
of Rulon Allred's family
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and their injustice.
It has ripple effects.
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Once Rena was acquitted,
Ramona Marston
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was never convicted
for the crime.
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And then there's Dan Jordan
down in Mexico.
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Jordan was held
in jail in Ensenada, Mexico.
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- I don't believe I'll have
any statement
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to make at this time.
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I do thank you for coming.
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Uh, thank you
for your attention.
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- Dan is let off as well.
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Mr. Jordan,
are you surprised?
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- I won't have any comments
to make at this time.
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Thank you very much.
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Another
one of Ervil's followers
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gets off the hook.
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Justice is undone.
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Ervil gets away with it again.
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- After Rena
was acquitted in 1979,
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we all returned to Colorado.
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I was so happy to be reunited
with Celia...
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- Yeah!
- My mom, my family, um.
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But Dan Jordan also returned
to Colorado at that time.
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My father, Ervil, was, uh,
hiding out in Mexico,
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so Dan Jordan was the one
who was in charge.
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So we're working
in the appliance store.
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And Dan comes in one day.
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He has this big announcement.
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Dan is like, "If you guys will
work hard all summer long,
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"at the end of the summer,
each of you
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will get $50
to buy new school clothes."
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- There were times when,
20 children in a home,
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they were given food money
of $20 a week.
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So $50 for us was a lot
of money in our minds.
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- I mean,
it was astronomical.
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And so guess what we did?
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We did. We worked so hard.
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We worked really hard.
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All summer long.
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Six days a week, 12 hour days.
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And we're gonna get our $50.
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The Saturday before school
is supposed to start,
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I'm like, uh, where is the $50?
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Like, we're supposed to be
able to, like, go shopping.
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And then it's like, oh, no,
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there's not enough money
for that.
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And that was that.
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Inside, I'm going,
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"Uh, no.
Uh, I earned that money.
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You said you would
give it to me."
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And then in walks
Dan's daughters.
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And they have on new clothes.
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And I just could not
believe my eyes...
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that we were the ones
who worked
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our asses off all summer long.
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00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:32,143
This was the moment
when there was a little bit
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00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:33,846
of a shift inside of me.
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There was no amount
of suppressing the emotion
304
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,065
and the...
The anger.
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00:19:43,132 --> 00:19:49,378
And this began
to fester inside,
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00:19:49,444 --> 00:19:53,719
and there was no
making it go away.
307
00:20:08,015 --> 00:20:11,421
Ervil's still
on the 10 Most Wanted list.
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00:20:11,488 --> 00:20:13,159
They know he's probably
spending most of his time
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down in Mexico.
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- Ervil was down in this small
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little rural town
called Atlixco, Mexico.
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Law enforcement
is hundreds of miles away.
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But locals know he's there.
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00:20:26,953 --> 00:20:28,956
And so now this idea
that this little cult
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00:20:29,023 --> 00:20:31,061
has moved to this
remote village
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starts to worry people.
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And you have to remember
that just a year before,
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the Jonestown Massacre
had happened.
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00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:44,755
900 people
from the People's Temple,
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00:20:44,822 --> 00:20:49,297
this sort of religious group,
commit mass suicide.
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00:20:51,802 --> 00:20:54,007
Mexican law enforcement
start thinking,
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00:20:54,074 --> 00:20:56,979
"Is Ervil LeBaron's group
gonna do the same thing?"
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00:20:57,046 --> 00:20:59,985
They don't want another
Jonestown on their hands.
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00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:09,404
So they decide
to do something about it.
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00:21:14,615 --> 00:21:15,984
- Probably the Mexican
authorities has just
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00:21:16,051 --> 00:21:17,788
reached a point where
they were fed up with him.
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00:21:17,855 --> 00:21:21,963
He had--he'd probably made
a lot of local enemies.
328
00:21:22,029 --> 00:21:26,505
They raid where Ervil
was living, beat him up.
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00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:34,722
Supposedly,
he had resisted arrest
330
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:36,792
when the Federales
came in on him.
331
00:21:40,165 --> 00:21:47,046
And they send Ervil across,
dumped him across the border,
332
00:21:47,112 --> 00:21:50,452
same bridge that Rena Chynoweth
walked across at Laredo...
333
00:21:52,724 --> 00:21:54,995
And handed him over
to American authorities.
334
00:22:00,373 --> 00:22:03,145
- Finally,
after almost a decade
335
00:22:03,212 --> 00:22:06,451
of murder, death, and terror,
336
00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,823
Ervil LeBaron is arrested.
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00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:16,137
Ervil LeBaron, polygamist,
338
00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:17,240
religious cult leader,
339
00:22:17,307 --> 00:22:19,010
self-proclaimed prophet
of God.
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00:22:19,077 --> 00:22:21,916
Finally, yesterday, he was
arrested in Mexico City
341
00:22:21,983 --> 00:22:24,420
and today walked across the
International Bridge at Laredo
342
00:22:24,487 --> 00:22:26,726
and turned over
to American authorities.
343
00:22:26,792 --> 00:22:29,063
He's claimed he has the right
to kill anyone he wishes
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00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:30,667
upon orders from God.
345
00:22:30,734 --> 00:22:32,403
He's expected
to be returned to Utah
346
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:36,144
to stand trial for murder.
347
00:22:36,211 --> 00:22:38,048
- American law enforcement
people are waiting for him.
348
00:22:38,114 --> 00:22:41,087
They wanna try
to get Ervil to talk.
349
00:22:41,154 --> 00:22:44,160
And Ervil being Ervil,
says, "Yeah, I'll talk to you."
350
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:52,544
And Ervil LeBaron talks
for the next five hours.
351
00:22:55,015 --> 00:22:57,854
Here's a guy who claims
to be the prophet,
352
00:22:57,921 --> 00:23:00,392
all need to bow down to him.
353
00:23:02,096 --> 00:23:04,367
At one point, he claims
he's the legitimate
354
00:23:04,434 --> 00:23:05,703
president of the United States.
355
00:23:07,975 --> 00:23:12,083
So in a lot of ways,
it seems quite crazy.
356
00:23:12,150 --> 00:23:14,321
And yet when the police
start to push
357
00:23:14,387 --> 00:23:18,596
towards the murder
of Rulon Allred,
358
00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:22,070
he's smart enough
to know to not touch it.
359
00:23:22,136 --> 00:23:24,608
Ervil will not say anything
incriminating.
360
00:23:33,993 --> 00:23:36,866
We were shocked
when Ervil got arrested.
361
00:23:36,932 --> 00:23:40,005
Because we--we were like,
what happened?
362
00:23:40,072 --> 00:23:43,779
Did--did God fall down
on the job?
363
00:23:43,846 --> 00:23:46,184
It's like we never thought
things like that would happen
364
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:47,687
because we were so faithful.
365
00:23:52,129 --> 00:23:55,235
- We were not told
what was going on.
366
00:23:55,302 --> 00:23:57,172
But sometimes we learn things
through family prayers
367
00:23:57,239 --> 00:24:00,012
and church prayers
and stuff like that.
368
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:01,883
Sometimes in those prayers,
you would--
369
00:24:01,950 --> 00:24:04,755
there was a common theme
of like, oh,
370
00:24:04,821 --> 00:24:07,794
help Ervil to get out
of jail soon, and...
371
00:24:10,099 --> 00:24:11,702
So I was like,
oh, I know he's in jail
372
00:24:11,769 --> 00:24:13,004
because I heard it
in the prayers,
373
00:24:13,071 --> 00:24:14,841
we're asking for him
to get out of jail.
374
00:24:16,679 --> 00:24:21,522
I remember
seeing a picture of him
375
00:24:21,588 --> 00:24:23,526
from his arrest
in Ensenada, Mexico.
376
00:24:26,197 --> 00:24:28,302
His arms are behind
his back in handcuffs,
377
00:24:28,368 --> 00:24:32,142
and he was being flown from
one Mexican state to another.
378
00:24:35,349 --> 00:24:38,889
It was the only picture
I ever had of my father.
379
00:24:50,045 --> 00:24:53,152
- In 1980,
the trial for Ervil LeBaron
380
00:24:53,218 --> 00:24:54,921
begins in Salt Lake City.
381
00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,731
Ervil ends up
with a public defender.
382
00:25:04,574 --> 00:25:05,610
When I first realized
383
00:25:05,677 --> 00:25:07,680
I was going to see
Ervil LeBaron,
384
00:25:07,747 --> 00:25:10,987
I was very, uh, uncertain
about what he was like.
385
00:25:11,054 --> 00:25:14,460
I remember someone saying
he had these deep-set eyes
386
00:25:14,528 --> 00:25:16,732
that looked evil.
387
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:20,172
I said, well, Evil Ervil,
that fits.
388
00:25:20,238 --> 00:25:23,044
Back in those days,
we would meet person to person,
389
00:25:23,111 --> 00:25:28,288
uh, just across the table,
uh, no guards in there.
390
00:25:28,355 --> 00:25:31,361
And when he came in,
he had, uh, scriptures,
391
00:25:31,428 --> 00:25:35,570
and he had an armful
of notebooks and pencils.
392
00:25:35,636 --> 00:25:38,241
And his hair was disheveled.
393
00:25:38,308 --> 00:25:39,745
- Here you have Ervil LeBaron
394
00:25:39,811 --> 00:25:42,416
being defended
by a public defender.
395
00:25:42,483 --> 00:25:45,322
He's still confident
in the midst of all of this.
396
00:25:45,389 --> 00:25:48,729
He really thought that
he was the prophet of God
397
00:25:48,796 --> 00:25:50,666
and that God would protect him.
398
00:25:54,373 --> 00:25:57,514
- We knew going in
that there was no indication
399
00:25:57,581 --> 00:26:00,285
that Mr. LeBaron
was actually present
400
00:26:00,352 --> 00:26:02,290
at the death of Rulon Allred.
401
00:26:02,356 --> 00:26:05,362
And so we sort of
felt the state would have
402
00:26:05,428 --> 00:26:09,971
a hard time convincing people
that he put others up to it.
403
00:26:12,644 --> 00:26:14,849
- This time around,
I had the man
404
00:26:14,915 --> 00:26:17,019
that everybody feared.
405
00:26:20,693 --> 00:26:22,162
I was at the trial.
406
00:26:22,229 --> 00:26:25,469
And I remember Ervil
picking up--me up
407
00:26:25,537 --> 00:26:27,541
in the audience with his eyes.
408
00:26:27,608 --> 00:26:28,877
- Oh.
409
00:26:28,943 --> 00:26:33,384
- And we stared at each other
for two minutes.
410
00:26:35,022 --> 00:26:37,728
I just felt
this kind of radiant--
411
00:26:37,794 --> 00:26:39,229
Like a laser.
412
00:26:39,296 --> 00:26:43,305
Radiant,
crazy hate in that stare.
413
00:26:43,372 --> 00:26:45,342
They called him
Mormon Manson
414
00:26:45,409 --> 00:26:47,847
'cause Manson was commonly
perceived, of course,
415
00:26:47,914 --> 00:26:50,352
as a monster and a madman.
416
00:26:50,419 --> 00:26:54,995
So we tried to present,
this isn't such a person.
417
00:26:55,062 --> 00:26:58,836
And we did that with just
a very few witnesses.
418
00:26:58,903 --> 00:27:01,007
We tried to humanize him
as best we could
419
00:27:01,074 --> 00:27:03,646
without him testifying
in front of the jury.
420
00:27:05,115 --> 00:27:08,021
I called
40-something witnesses,
421
00:27:08,088 --> 00:27:10,025
including one key witness,
422
00:27:10,091 --> 00:27:12,162
and that was Isaac LeBaron.
423
00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:18,041
- Isaac LeBaron,
one of Ervil's children,
424
00:27:18,108 --> 00:27:20,947
the prosecution's star witness
425
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,684
who had been
in the planning sessions
426
00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:25,255
for the Allred murder and had
been raised in the cult.
427
00:27:25,322 --> 00:27:30,165
He had come in to testify
against his father.
428
00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:31,935
But he was scared.
429
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,712
- What he was afraid of
is the fact
430
00:27:36,779 --> 00:27:38,716
that people that
went against Ervil
431
00:27:38,783 --> 00:27:41,154
would be considered traitors.
432
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:44,595
And the punishment
for traitors was death.
433
00:27:44,661 --> 00:27:46,632
- There are real
courageous heroes,
434
00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:48,703
like Isaac LeBaron,
435
00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:50,907
who stood
against his own father.
436
00:27:50,974 --> 00:27:53,579
He spoke quietly and directly,
437
00:27:53,646 --> 00:27:57,688
and he would sometimes look
at his dad and then look down.
438
00:27:57,754 --> 00:28:03,432
Even if you know your parent
is evil, it's still your dad.
439
00:28:03,498 --> 00:28:05,803
His own father
had abused him mentally,
440
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:08,175
physically for years.
441
00:28:08,242 --> 00:28:11,280
I can't even believe
what Isaac had to go through
442
00:28:11,347 --> 00:28:13,953
to be courageous and to speak
the truth that day.
443
00:28:17,426 --> 00:28:20,634
- Isaac's testimony was--
was important for the state,
444
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,774
and it was a surprise
to Ervil that his son Isaac
445
00:28:24,841 --> 00:28:26,444
would testify against him.
446
00:28:29,383 --> 00:28:31,722
This guy
who killed my father
447
00:28:31,789 --> 00:28:34,394
needed to be found guilty.
448
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:37,132
He should be held accountable,
and he should be dealt with.
449
00:28:38,936 --> 00:28:40,506
- When the jury came back
in three hours...
450
00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:46,719
I immediately felt, well,
451
00:28:46,786 --> 00:28:48,522
this may be
one of those good cases.
452
00:28:52,462 --> 00:28:55,168
After a decade
of getting away with murder...
453
00:28:56,939 --> 00:29:01,013
Ervil LeBaron is found guilty
454
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,750
of first-degree murder
455
00:29:02,817 --> 00:29:07,392
and conspiracy to commit
murder against Rulon Allred.
456
00:29:07,459 --> 00:29:11,167
- Good.
That's what should happen.
457
00:29:11,234 --> 00:29:15,109
I felt relieved that Ervil
had been found guilty
458
00:29:15,175 --> 00:29:17,947
and would face
those consequences.
459
00:29:20,219 --> 00:29:24,460
How glad we all were that
this chapter of our lives
460
00:29:24,528 --> 00:29:25,863
could be partly closed.
461
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:28,636
- Ervil is sentenced
to life in prison.
462
00:29:35,850 --> 00:29:37,587
- We were told
he went to trial,
463
00:29:37,654 --> 00:29:40,960
that everything would be fine
because God would protect him.
464
00:29:41,027 --> 00:29:43,699
And so when he
was found guilty,
465
00:29:43,766 --> 00:29:47,641
I thought it was just Satan
basically trying us.
466
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:58,630
When
Ervil is put behind bars,
467
00:29:58,696 --> 00:30:01,535
there's a collective sigh
of relief around the country.
468
00:30:01,602 --> 00:30:04,741
Finally, they got this guy
who has scared everyone
469
00:30:04,808 --> 00:30:06,410
for almost a decade.
470
00:30:10,754 --> 00:30:12,991
But people don't
realize that putting
471
00:30:13,058 --> 00:30:15,930
a man like this in prison
doesn't stop his following.
472
00:30:20,507 --> 00:30:21,742
When he's in prison,
473
00:30:21,809 --> 00:30:25,181
his revelations
take a new form.
474
00:30:25,248 --> 00:30:28,488
They get darker and more
extreme and more deadly.
475
00:30:33,398 --> 00:30:34,701
Every time I saw him, almost,
476
00:30:34,768 --> 00:30:37,239
he would want yellow pads
and pencils constantly.
477
00:30:37,306 --> 00:30:40,078
Just--just gross
of pads and pencils.
478
00:30:40,145 --> 00:30:42,951
And he would have
four or five of them
479
00:30:43,017 --> 00:30:45,189
completely full of writing.
480
00:30:45,255 --> 00:30:46,858
And he would say, well,
this is what
481
00:30:46,925 --> 00:30:49,163
I've been working on
since I saw you Tuesday.
482
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,345
The jailers would say, yeah,
he'll stay up all night
483
00:30:57,412 --> 00:31:00,451
and just be bent over
his table writing.
484
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,424
The whole night,
literally the whole night.
485
00:31:05,429 --> 00:31:07,199
- He's still being visited
by some of his wives,
486
00:31:07,265 --> 00:31:09,203
some of his followers.
487
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:10,606
Kind of among his followers,
most notably, uh,
488
00:31:10,673 --> 00:31:13,912
Mark Chynoweth
comes to see him often.
489
00:31:15,683 --> 00:31:18,287
And Mark Chynoweth
and the wives
490
00:31:18,354 --> 00:31:22,095
are taking Ervil's writings,
491
00:31:22,162 --> 00:31:23,599
kind of sneaking them
out of prison.
492
00:31:26,539 --> 00:31:29,110
- And when
you read his writings,
493
00:31:29,177 --> 00:31:32,550
you would understand that
these are not the writings
494
00:31:32,617 --> 00:31:37,359
of a man who is
in his right mind.
495
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:47,279
- We didn't know that
our father was mentally ill
496
00:31:47,346 --> 00:31:48,682
for all his whole life.
497
00:31:48,749 --> 00:31:52,289
It wasn't until our father
had been in prison
498
00:31:52,356 --> 00:31:55,328
and we began to notice--
or the adults began to notice
499
00:31:55,395 --> 00:31:57,567
that his revelations
and his orders
500
00:31:57,634 --> 00:32:02,476
were becoming more
and more bizarre.
501
00:32:05,983 --> 00:32:08,856
And more and more violent.
502
00:32:24,487 --> 00:32:28,528
- His writings, Ervil had
ordered his followers
503
00:32:28,595 --> 00:32:34,006
to come bust him out
of maximum security prison
504
00:32:34,073 --> 00:32:37,246
with guns a-blazing.
505
00:32:37,312 --> 00:32:40,151
And all of the adults
who knew about this
506
00:32:40,218 --> 00:32:42,723
knew it was a suicide mission.
507
00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:45,362
- It's almost like
the--the kind of spell
508
00:32:45,429 --> 00:32:48,234
has been broken for a lot
of people in the cult.
509
00:32:48,301 --> 00:32:51,174
Sanity starts
to kind of seep in.
510
00:32:51,241 --> 00:32:52,744
But what
they didn't realize was,
511
00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:56,283
some of his followers weren't
pulling away from the cult.
512
00:33:00,659 --> 00:33:03,498
- Our father's mental illness
and all those--
513
00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:05,569
all those revelations
that he was writing
514
00:33:05,636 --> 00:33:06,672
in his prison cell,
515
00:33:06,738 --> 00:33:08,576
it fractured
the whole organization,
516
00:33:08,643 --> 00:33:11,314
which was already terrible
and violent,
517
00:33:11,381 --> 00:33:14,053
but it made it
even more violent.
518
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,123
- He lost complete control.
Yeah, that makes sense.
519
00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:19,230
- And then everyone else
wouldn't come
520
00:33:19,296 --> 00:33:20,733
and bust him out of prison.
521
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,837
That's what he had ordered them
to do, and they wouldn't.
522
00:33:22,904 --> 00:33:26,444
But the other difference, too,
is that a lot of these adults
523
00:33:26,511 --> 00:33:29,885
had also gone to trial
and been in court
524
00:33:29,951 --> 00:33:31,320
and gone to jail for stuff,
525
00:33:31,387 --> 00:33:32,790
and some of them
were acquitted, of course.
526
00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:36,498
So I think that going to jail,
having convictions,
527
00:33:36,565 --> 00:33:38,970
and people experiencing
the consequences
528
00:33:39,036 --> 00:33:42,476
of what they were doing, like,
was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
529
00:33:42,544 --> 00:33:43,846
- That probably didn't hurt.
- No. That did not.
530
00:33:43,913 --> 00:33:46,217
- No? You don't think?
You don't think?
531
00:33:46,284 --> 00:33:50,225
- Anna, it was
the tone of the output.
532
00:33:50,291 --> 00:33:52,195
It was the tone
of his revelations.
533
00:33:52,262 --> 00:33:53,599
It was the tone of his letters.
534
00:33:53,666 --> 00:33:57,406
It was the tone of his demands
that they knew
535
00:33:57,472 --> 00:33:59,043
he was no longer
in his right mind.
536
00:33:59,109 --> 00:34:01,581
That's when Dan
and everybody said,
537
00:34:01,648 --> 00:34:04,453
ooh, we can't
follow all of that.
538
00:34:04,521 --> 00:34:07,092
- Dan, the reason
he wouldn't follow Ervil
539
00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:08,962
is 'cause he could tell
by the letters
540
00:34:09,029 --> 00:34:12,871
that he was writing
and stuff, that he was crazy.
541
00:34:12,937 --> 00:34:15,809
He had men--Mom--even Mom
wouldn't follow him.
542
00:34:15,876 --> 00:34:17,680
- But here's the thing,
these revelations that
543
00:34:17,747 --> 00:34:19,785
they're saying was crazy,
when Ervil was having
544
00:34:19,851 --> 00:34:23,124
those revelations before,
they didn't seem crazy to Dan.
545
00:34:23,191 --> 00:34:24,360
Right.
546
00:34:24,427 --> 00:34:25,997
They were actually
carrying them out.
547
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,733
- But that was
a long time ago.
548
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,405
- I'm just trying
to establish that--
549
00:34:30,472 --> 00:34:32,911
That they became
very much more incoherent.
550
00:34:32,978 --> 00:34:34,179
I agree.
551
00:34:34,246 --> 00:34:36,952
- Most of the adults
552
00:34:37,018 --> 00:34:38,889
could sense the difference.
553
00:34:38,956 --> 00:34:41,595
So they continued to follow it.
- You are absolutely right.
554
00:34:41,662 --> 00:34:44,133
You are right.
555
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,070
Dan Jordan and Mark Chynoweth
refused
556
00:34:46,137 --> 00:34:47,573
to carry out
my father's orders.
557
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,278
Ervil called down vengeance
from on high
558
00:34:50,345 --> 00:34:53,686
on anyone who wouldn't
obey his orders.
559
00:34:53,753 --> 00:34:57,827
And that caused him
to see them as the ones
560
00:34:57,894 --> 00:35:01,401
that needed to be taken out,
those ones that needed to be
561
00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:05,408
blood atoned because they were
not following his orders.
562
00:35:17,867 --> 00:35:19,504
It was Sunday morning.
563
00:35:19,571 --> 00:35:22,308
I had gotten ready for church.
564
00:35:25,683 --> 00:35:29,891
I pick up the receiver,
but before I can say hello...
565
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:36,538
I realize that my mom had
already answered the phone.
566
00:35:38,374 --> 00:35:42,082
And I hear Dan Jordan
on the phone
567
00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:45,523
giving my mom the news
568
00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:48,260
that Ervil
had been found dead...
569
00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:52,268
In his prison cell.
570
00:35:55,877 --> 00:35:58,114
I was shocked.
571
00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,786
I couldn't believe it.
572
00:36:00,853 --> 00:36:05,062
I could hear my mom
could not believe
573
00:36:05,128 --> 00:36:06,931
that Ervil LeBaron was dead.
574
00:36:11,842 --> 00:36:14,881
She fully expected him
to get out of prison,
575
00:36:14,948 --> 00:36:17,353
not die in prison.
576
00:36:17,419 --> 00:36:19,189
He was God's prophet.
577
00:36:19,256 --> 00:36:20,893
God's prophet wasn't gonna die.
578
00:36:27,005 --> 00:36:29,711
I just had memories
of my dad when I was little
579
00:36:29,777 --> 00:36:34,754
of us running to him
when he came to visit,
580
00:36:34,821 --> 00:36:40,398
jiggling us down his back
like he's a big slide,
581
00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:43,471
and when he used
to have that warm,
582
00:36:43,539 --> 00:36:45,843
comforting relationship
with us.
583
00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:52,022
And I just thought to myself,
that will never happen again.
584
00:36:52,088 --> 00:36:54,026
I think I always had
that hope in my heart
585
00:36:54,093 --> 00:36:57,533
that I would have a
relationship with my father.
586
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,113
But looking back now,
I realized I was more crying
587
00:37:04,179 --> 00:37:07,086
for the father I never had.
588
00:37:07,152 --> 00:37:08,955
This is the
maximum security cell
589
00:37:09,022 --> 00:37:11,493
Ervil LeBaron
lived and died in.
590
00:37:11,561 --> 00:37:14,768
There was no evidence
of foul play or suicide.
591
00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:17,138
Everything seemed to point
to natural causes.
592
00:37:17,205 --> 00:37:19,578
The daughter of the man
he was convicted of killing
593
00:37:19,644 --> 00:37:22,449
said his death
alone in a jail cell
594
00:37:22,516 --> 00:37:24,888
was a fitting end.
595
00:37:25,957 --> 00:37:29,396
- As if the story doesn't have
enough wild twists and turns,
596
00:37:29,462 --> 00:37:32,302
how Ervil died
is still a little disputed.
597
00:37:32,369 --> 00:37:35,910
The official cause of death
by the coroner is heart attack.
598
00:37:35,977 --> 00:37:38,782
But there are some other things
going around at the time.
599
00:37:56,618 --> 00:37:58,622
My immediate reaction was,
600
00:37:58,689 --> 00:38:01,427
there's foul play involved.
Someone had this done.
601
00:38:01,493 --> 00:38:03,264
I didn't know who.
I didn't know why.
602
00:38:03,331 --> 00:38:04,667
I didn't know how.
603
00:38:04,734 --> 00:38:07,305
I have no evidence
that that's true.
604
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,744
But he did not seem
suicidal to me.
605
00:38:09,811 --> 00:38:12,783
He was what, 56 or something?
He wasn't very old.
606
00:38:12,850 --> 00:38:17,492
That's unusual to have a heart
attack at that age, I thought.
607
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:20,599
With Ervil's death in 1981,
608
00:38:20,666 --> 00:38:23,572
Ervil has now passed
from the scene.
609
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:25,643
But what they're
kind of forgetting,
610
00:38:25,709 --> 00:38:31,187
or maybe don't know,
is that Ervil's writings,
611
00:38:31,254 --> 00:38:35,897
which Ervil wrote in prison,
that's out there.
612
00:38:35,963 --> 00:38:38,234
- All these documents
eventually did
613
00:38:38,301 --> 00:38:39,469
make their way
out of the prison,
614
00:38:39,537 --> 00:38:42,208
and then they were
compiled into a book
615
00:38:42,275 --> 00:38:45,549
that is referred to as
The Book of the New Covenant.
616
00:38:56,436 --> 00:38:59,577
- A lot of
insane-sounding rants, uh,
617
00:38:59,644 --> 00:39:01,714
with a lot of violence
included in them
618
00:39:01,781 --> 00:39:04,085
and a lot of death threats.
619
00:39:04,152 --> 00:39:06,023
Before his death in prison,
620
00:39:06,089 --> 00:39:08,696
Ervil wanted to get revenge
against anyone
621
00:39:08,762 --> 00:39:09,898
who had turned against him.
622
00:39:09,965 --> 00:39:13,572
And so Ervil uses this to say,
623
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,010
"These people should be
destroyed."
624
00:39:16,077 --> 00:39:19,382
This list includes
enemies of Ervil,
625
00:39:19,449 --> 00:39:24,426
followers of Ervil,
friends and family of Ervil.
626
00:39:24,493 --> 00:39:29,436
And it becomes, essentially,
a hit list for all his enemies.
627
00:39:29,503 --> 00:39:34,079
- Over 50 people,
Ervil had marked for death.
628
00:39:36,050 --> 00:39:37,587
The open question was,
was somebody gonna
629
00:39:37,654 --> 00:39:39,890
take that list
and start acting on it?
630
00:39:41,895 --> 00:39:43,532
The Book of the New Covenant
631
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,003
was something that
was only embraced
632
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:51,815
and believed in by a handful
of Ervil's followers.
633
00:39:51,882 --> 00:39:55,856
There were a group
of Ervil's teenage children
634
00:39:55,923 --> 00:39:57,893
that had been born
and raised to believe
635
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,367
he was a prophet,
who remained loyal to him,
636
00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:03,605
even while he was in prison.
637
00:40:03,672 --> 00:40:07,211
They were isolated,
alone in Mexico,
638
00:40:07,278 --> 00:40:08,848
and it got into their hands,
639
00:40:08,915 --> 00:40:12,456
and they continued
to follow it.
640
00:40:12,523 --> 00:40:17,131
This group became known as the
KOG, or the Kingdom of God.
641
00:40:18,835 --> 00:40:21,440
They'd been taught
horrible things,
642
00:40:21,507 --> 00:40:25,649
abused and neglected
and brainwashed
643
00:40:25,716 --> 00:40:27,853
their entire lives from birth.
644
00:40:29,991 --> 00:40:32,095
They believed
that what Ervil had written
645
00:40:32,161 --> 00:40:35,101
was exactly what
they needed to follow
646
00:40:35,167 --> 00:40:39,844
in order to usher in the
Kingdom of God here on Earth.
647
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:43,752
This was an incredibly
fearful time.
648
00:40:45,689 --> 00:40:47,660
It became
even more dangerous
649
00:40:47,726 --> 00:40:50,064
to belong to our cult.
650
00:40:51,701 --> 00:40:54,573
These are teenagers with guns.
651
00:40:55,876 --> 00:40:59,449
This list
is a ticking time bomb,
652
00:40:59,517 --> 00:41:02,055
ready to explode
chaos and pain.
653
00:41:05,061 --> 00:41:07,365
It's almost as if Ervil's voice
654
00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:08,835
is coming
from beyond the grave.
655
00:41:12,175 --> 00:41:14,748
- It's not a matter of if
the killings are gonna go on,
656
00:41:14,814 --> 00:41:17,051
but just simply when.
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