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MAN ON MEGAPHONE:
You have no concept of God!
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Shame on you! Shame on you!
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DEEYAH KHAN: If you want an abortion
in the state of Alabama,
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this is what you'll have to face.
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You killed your baby,
you shameful brat!
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Hey, don't be a whore,
don't be a slut!
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Don't be a ho!
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Wicked, nasty, disgusting whore!
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Sick freak!
Wicked!
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People should be comforted
through this,
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and not dammed and hated.
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All the judgement that
society puts on it,
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it's hard not to feel...
guilty in a way about it.
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I am asking Congress
to pass legislation
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finally banning the late-term
abortion of babies.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Donald Trump is the most
anti-abortion president in years.
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Do you believe in punishment
for abortion? Yes or no?
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There has to be some
form of punishment.
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Now, a vicious political fight
for control of the Supreme Court
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could see abortion
being banned entirely
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for millions of women
across America.
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That's what we're going to do,
we're gonna fill the seat.
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That's a good idea.
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Performing abortions in America
can get you murdered.
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I'm coming face to face
with people convicted
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of anti-abortion terrorism...
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I knew that I would be coming
against these abortion chambers
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with destructive force.
I knew that I would destroy them.
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..and the anti-abortion campaigners
who celebrate these attacks.
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Oh, my God!
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When they bomb an abortion clinic,
or burn an abortion clinic,
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I think the army of God has done
a marvellous job.
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I'm meeting the medical staff
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who risk their lives
to provide abortions...
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This building's been bombed,
it's been flooded.
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..and the women who face
the harshest choices of their lives.
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It's living, it's living.
It's kicking.
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SHE SOBS
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The fight over abortion has become
a fight for the future of America.
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Ma'am, this doctor here
is an abortionist,
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don't you deserve better?
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It's a war on children.
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It's a war
on a human being in the womb.
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I know that,
with this upcoming election,
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that's what we have at stake.
It's gonna hurt women.
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This is...
I mean, this is the battle.
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The soul of the country, right?
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Who's Charlotte?
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Charlotte was my daughter.
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Um, I was pregnant with her,
beginning in 2012.
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Um...
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Unfortunately, we didn't get
to give birth to her,
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to the point where
I got to see her or hold her.
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But she's my daughter.
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When Trinity was 18 weeks pregnant,
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a routine scan found her foetus
had three lethal medical conditions.
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She was told the best option
was to have an abortion
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to avoid the baby suffering.
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"Incompatible with life",
that phrase.
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That phrase will haunt you,
and haunts me,
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you know, in the depths
of my nightmares.
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You're just taken right back
into that room,
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right back into that moment,
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where someone tells you
that your baby's gonna die.
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They put the needle
through your belly,
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into your uterus,
and into the baby's heart.
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That was the moment that you know...
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..that she's going.
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It sounds crazy and it sounds silly,
but I just...
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I wanted to see it beat
for the last time.
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And I wanted to be there
and have her know that I was...
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..watching her as we said goodbye.
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It just seemed so surreal.
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I'm just so lost.
I just don't know, do I get to...
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do I get to feel like
I lost a baby?
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Because I felt like, in some way,
I didn't get...
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I didn't deserve...
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I didn't deserve be sad.
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You know, through a lot of therapy
and a lot of time,
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I realised that, um,
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I feel that way because of
what society's made me feel.
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I know that other people are forced
to come out of a clinic
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and have people yell at them
and call them murderers
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and tell them that
they've murdered their baby
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and call them horrible names
and wave...
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signs in front of them
and yell at them,
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and I just can't even imagine
what I would have done.
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I can't imagine what my husband
would have done at that moment
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if we would have been wheeled out
and somebody would have been
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standing there in front of us,
picketing us.
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This is a country where you can
be vilified and stigmatised
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for having an abortion.
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For decades, the Supreme Court
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has protected the right
of a woman to choose,
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with the landmark decision
Roe vs Wade.
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But the death of
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
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has led to a battle for control
of the Supreme Court.
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That's what we're going to do,
we're gonna fill the seat.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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CROWD: Fill the seat, fill the seat!
That's a good idea.
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These legal struggles could have
far-reaching consequences
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for American women.
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It may even mean
abortion is one day banned
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across much of America.
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'I'm heading for a front line
in the war on abortion.
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'Only three clinics regularly
provide abortions
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'in the whole of Alabama.'
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Patients who arrive at Alabama
Women's Centre in Huntsville
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have to be shielded
by these people,
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known as clinic defenders,
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because every day,
just yards from the clinic entrance,
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are anti-abortion protesters.
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Nasty whore!
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Shame on you, you wicked devil!
Baby murderer!
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You're worse than Jeffrey Dahmer,
you sick freak!
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The clinic defenders
are all volunteers
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who work here because they believe
in the right of women to choose.
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Yeah, I'm talking to you,
shame on you!
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You deserve to be stoned.
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Wicked!
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Vile, disgusting!
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Disgusting.
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Walking around naked, showing off
your thighs and your legs,
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nasty whore.
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I pray that every woman
that opens up her nasty,
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disgusting, diseased vagina
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to have a baby ripped
out of their womb,
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I pray that they bleed to death.
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This is it,
this is the life at the clinic.
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This is an everyday clearance.
Welcome to Alabama.
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Having an abortion
can be stressful and difficult,
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and the staff say the protesters
make things much worse.
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Someone coming into something
like this for the first time,
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it can be scary.
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And they come in a lot of time
flustered, angry, crying.
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This is Morgan.
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She has decided to have an abortion
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because she has no financial means
to bring up a child.
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How are you feeling?
Nervous.
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I knew immediately, um,
what I was going to do,
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but it doesn't make it any easier,
just thinking about it and...
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..all the judgement that society
puts on it and everything, so...
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it's gonna weigh on my...
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..on my life for a really long time,
just thinking about it.
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The vast majority of patients
who come here
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are less than ten weeks pregnant,
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and they're given a pill
which induces a miscarriage.
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Before we give you
the first dose of medicine,
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we always like to be sure
that you're absolutely certain
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that this is what you wanna do.
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This is the one
that you're gonna swallow.
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But Morgan has only just found out
she's 15 weeks pregnant,
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so she'll be undergoing
the procedure
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used for later-term patients.
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She has been given medicine
to relax her and dilate her cervix.
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But because of the stress
and nerves,
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it's not taking effect.
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MORGAN SOBS
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You're doing good,
you're doing good. Small breaths.
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Small, deep breaths.
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Dr Yashica Robinson
is the supervising doctor.
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Hi.
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You'll feel a lot of pressure, OK?
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The first thing that you're
gonna feel is just cold, so...
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MORGAN CRIES
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Tell me what's going on,
are you feeling pain right now?
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What's going on?
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You're scared?
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Didn't I tell you I was gonna take
really good care of you?
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OK, well, scoot down one more time.
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Once the medicine starts to work,
it only takes around five minutes
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for Dr Robinson to remove
the contents of the uterus.
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You have only about 60 seconds
and we're finished, OK?
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You have about ten seconds
and we're finished.
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I told you, it was gonna be over
before you knew it.
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And we're done.
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How are you doing?
It was better than I expected.
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I think that the worst part was just
waiting and anticipating.
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I know when I came in to talk to you
the first time,
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you said you was really nervous
and you were worried.
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And when I came back in,
you were really worried.
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But you did very well.
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If you have any concerns
after you leave,
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I want you to call us, OK?
All right.
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Dr Robinson is medical director
of the clinic,
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in charge of everything
that goes on here,
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and her partner, Dalton, owns it.
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This is one of the few abortion
clinics in the whole of America
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which is owned and run
by people of colour.
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'I am a proud abortion provider.
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'I'm unapologetic about the care
that I provide for my patients.'
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I can understand where these women
are coming from,
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because I'm interacting with them
on a daily basis,
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and I understand the circumstances
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that go into them
making these decisions.
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For some women who come here,
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this is one of the worst days
of their lives.
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Sarana has recently had
her 20-week scan.
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She has been told her foetus has
a series of major medical disorders
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and it's very probable
it won't survive.
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Oh, wow. Um...
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Just...
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Do you have other children?
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He was looking forward to being
a big brother?
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SARANA SOBS
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She's named her unborn son Andre.
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To save Andre any suffering,
she decides to have the abortion.
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A counsellor is on hand
to comfort her.
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The procedure itself
takes 20 minutes...
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and the staff help her to her car.
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Dr Robinson's clinic
mostly serves the rural, poor
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and African-American communities
of Alabama.
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The work we are going
through right now,
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our current economic situation,
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people are already struggling
just to put food on the table.
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You see people waiting in long lines
just to get food from food banks.
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You know, we are almost like
social workers,
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social service providers
for these patients,
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because their needs are so great.
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One day,
Alex comes into the clinic.
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She's in a same-sex relationship
and already has a young daughter.
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She tells me she's decided
to have an abortion
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because she was attacked and raped
just outside her apartment
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by two men she didn't know.
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Because of the lack
of available clinics,
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Alex has been forced to drive
ten hours to get here.
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Although she can barely afford it,
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she's had to stay
in a nearby motel.
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It is the hardest decision, I think,
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that I have ever
had to make in my life.
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Um, hey, had I just had sex
with two guys,
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I would be like, "OK, of course."
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But I don't know those people,
I don't know what type of diseases,
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I don't know anything of them.
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And I know that I have been through
so much mentally
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that I would always
look at that baby
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and say this baby
was not made in love.
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I'd think back to the pressure
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that they were applying
to my anus and my vagina.
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That's what I think back to.
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And I know... I know I am forgiven.
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It was the most hurtful thing.
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Um, so, this is my uterus,
I am my own woman,
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and this is what's best for me.
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It's the right thing to do.
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Have you ever, ever considered
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the possibility of keeping
this baby?
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Every second since I've been here.
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I am not thinking,
but it's in the back of my mind,
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it's living, it's living,
it's kicking.
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I don't think I wanna talk any more.
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SHE SOBS
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My daughter loves me.
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Jesus loves me.
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And that's enough for me.
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And that's enough
for any of the women
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that are going to watch this.
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The protests that dog Dr Robinson
outside the abortion clinic
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follow her wherever
she does her work.
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Ten minutes away, she also runs
this maternity and baby centre.
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She's an obstetrician
and gynaecologist,
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providing the full range of
medical care for mother and child...
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Let's put your car seat here.
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..including bringing babies
into the world.
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Yes, I was the first one
to hold you!
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But even here,
she is targeted by protesters.
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Pregnant patients who arrive
at her centre for a scan,
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or even to give birth,
are harassed.
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Ma'am, this doctor here
is an abortionist,
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don't you deserve better?
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Yashica Robinson
murders babies in the womb,
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an average of 50 a week, ma'am.
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Dead or alive,
Yashica Robinson does not care.
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Dead or alive.
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Don't you deserve better
than Dr Death?
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Think about it, Dr Death here,
think about it.
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This is Carol Henderson,
the wife of the local reverend
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who organises
all the protests here.
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There's never a reason for a woman
to have to have an abortion.
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If they obeyed God's commandments
and not fornicate,
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they wouldn't get pregnant,
would they?
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Staff inside the clinic
have to be continually vigilant.
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When the protesters show up,
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and sometimes if there's
nobody out there,
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they'll block the driveway,
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so we have our OB patients
coming in,
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sometimes they're pretty distraught
by the time they get in the door,
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they're crying because they say
that the driveway was blocked,
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they couldn't come down
the driveway,
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or that, you know,
somebody touched 'em
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or got really close to 'em,
and it kind of shakes 'em up.
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The stress that they are putting
on these pregnant patients
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who are trying to just have
a healthy pregnancy
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is... it's just mind-blowing.
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Do you not feel it's disrespectful
of the women that are going in here
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who just want to have their child,
who are coming...?
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That's not disrespectful.
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Telling them the truth
and informing them,
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don't we all want to be informed
before we do something?
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The protesters tell me
they once persuaded a woman
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not to have an abortion.
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And this woman
is now a fellow campaigner.
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She is so thankful,
she is so thankful.
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Can I meet her?
Her fourth child was a little girl.
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She had three boys,
and now she has a little girl,
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and she's thankful.
No, she doesn't want to meet you.
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Why not?
Why would she want to?
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So she can tell her story.
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She doesn't want to tell you
her story, thank you.
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Why not?
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God's gonna cut out your disgusting
tongue like fatback, it's gonna fry.
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You, that so callously
kill your children,
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are gonna face God.
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Shame on you,
you wicked devil, baby murderer!
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God cares about that baby.
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Back at the abortion clinic,
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Daniel and Mary
are a newly married couple
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and are regular protesters.
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These are Satanist and witches
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that delight in the shedding
of innocent blood,
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it's part of their religion.
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You seem to be obsessed with them!
I don't look for whores,
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especially not old nasty whores
like you,
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so I wouldn't worry about you,
I wouldn't worry about that.
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A regular target of their abuse
is clinic defender Josephine.
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Why do you do this?
Why put up with this?
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Why put yourself through it?
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I might cry.
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For the women that come here
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that don't deserve
to be treated that way.
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Somebody needs to be here for them
and to let them know, it's OK.
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You have the right
to make this decision.
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You know, we all need
support sometimes.
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I persuade Daniel and Mary
to sit down with me to talk.
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Well, if they already know
they're a whore,
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then they're gonna say,
"He told me the truth."
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We're trying to save the baby.
These parents should be ashamed.
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They should be ashamed
of what they're going to do.
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By God's law, they should be stoned
to death at the edge of the city.
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Whoever sheds blood,
God's gonna kill you.
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You see all these parents
going on in,
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and you see these
Satanists and witches
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working in the parking lot,
and it's very depressing.
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Time is short!
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When I first started going
I was a lot more, like, crying,
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like, there's never
anything positive
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about going out there,
it's miserable.
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It's a sacrifice, obeying God.
It's not something pleasant at all.
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The Bible says it's peace
that surpasses understanding.
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And I believe that,
it's unexplainable.
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Yes, I... When I...
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In general, yes.
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Well, I mean, I didn't really want
to talk to you at all.
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I submit to him
because the Bible tells wives
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to submit to their husbands
and obey their husbands,
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so I obey him.
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MARY LAUGHS
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Did you really?
Yeah.
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Rejects from wherever...
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Mary tells me she had a very
unhappy life before she found God.
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There was abuse in my family,
pretty severe.
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So the day I was born again,
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when I asked Jesus
to come into my heart,
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um, I was just flooded with love,
you know.
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I had never known
what that felt like,
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the Father's love for me.
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I have to do it because I know
that God wants me to do it.
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We'll see on judgement day
which works.
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I mean, this is how we
typically deal with people,
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we don't typically shout at people.
SHE LAUGHS
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That's just a crisis situation
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where little children are about
to be tortured to death.
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One day, a group of
evangelical street preachers
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arrives from out of state
to join the usual gang.
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You are an abomination.
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Not your sin, you.
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That's where you kill your babies.
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Hey, don't be a whore!
Don't be a slut!
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Don't be a ho.
You murdered your baby.
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Do it the way God says and you don't
have to murder your baby.
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They shout racially charged abuse
at the Black patients.
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Black lives don't really matter
in this building.
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The worst place for a Black person
is in the vagina of Shaniqua.
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They also try to provoke
the clinic defenders.
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We have nothing nice to say to you!
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You are worse than the ones
that are molesting the children.
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You, that's what God thinks of you!
That's what God thinks of you!
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That's what God thinks of you,
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you're worse than
the child molesters.
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00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,960
You're worse than the ones
who stick pillows into babies.
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You're worse than ones
that finger babies.
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You're worse than ones that
lick vaginas of little babies.
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You kill babies!
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They start targeting me.
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You are one dumb female Muslim.
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If we were out here
enforcing Sharia law,
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we'd take you round the corner
and rape you,
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if we were good Muslims.
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If we were a good Muslim group,
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we'd take you and your
immodest little pants there
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around the corner
and we'd have our way with you.
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00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960
You wicked,
paedophile-approving Muslim.
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That's what you are.
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We got Jihad Jane right out here.
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Your lifestyle,
dressing like a whore...
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..provokes people to have dirty sex.
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00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,960
I've received abuse like this
so many times in my work,
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00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,960
I thought I was used to it.
Jihadist Islamic woman...
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But after weeks of filming here,
I briefly loose my cool.
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Step back, step back.
This is a free country.
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Get out...
We're not in Iraq.
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So you think me wearing
these jeans...
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You're provoking rape.
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00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,960
I wouldn't be surprised
if you get raped tonight,
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wearing those jeans,
walking down the street.
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Have some shame, have some shame.
All right, you talk...
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We talk, you listen.
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We're not giving women permission
to speak right now,
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00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,960
so be quiet, be quiet.
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Oh, just a little nipple,
oh, just a little sexy...
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Although I've become caught up
in the angry exchanges,
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I do want to understand
what these protesters believe in,
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so I try to get them
to talk to me.
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00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960
No, he's preaching.
No, seriously...
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He's preaching.
Ask him.
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Abortion is murder. How's that?
Is that the gist of it?
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That's why we're here,
why we're on the sidewalk.
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And so what should happen?
Stop murdering babies.
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00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,960
And he tells me he thinks
President Trump is on his side.
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He will do it.
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We will get people within
the Supreme Court,
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00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,960
and on this second term,
we will actually change Roe v Wade.
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He's going through the court system.
That's really what's gonna happen.
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00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,800
He's put more federal judges
that are conservative in America
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that are surpassed his life.
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00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,800
So, yes, Roe v Wade
will be overturned.
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True Christianity
will always be around,
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and I do represent it,
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00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,960
and you'll be surprised
how many people like me
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exist in our beloved country,
America.
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MAN ON MEGAPHONE: Come to our land
so that you may bless us again,
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and understand that if we don't turn
to you and repent...
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There's a war on abortion
in Trump's America.
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Every day, protesters hurl abuse
at patients entering this clinic
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and many more across the country.
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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Don't go into that wicked place,
they torture children to death!
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Since 2014, reports of hate mail,
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obstruction and disruption
of clinics
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have increased 24 times,
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00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,960
and violence, including invasion,
death threats and assault,
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has increased 17 times.
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This is America,
this is the home of the free,
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the land of the free,
the home of the brave.
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I've been filming
with Dr Yashica Robinson
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and her partner, Dalton.
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They run the
Alabama Women's Centre,
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one of the few abortion clinics
left in the state.
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Harassment has become a part
of their working life.
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I mean,
I take the precautions that I can
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00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
to make sure that I feel safe
and that my family feels safe.
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When I pull up to the hospital
at night,
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I make sure that I park
in the front of the hospital
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in a well-lit place.
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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,960
I never park on the back side
of the hospital.
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I check my surroundings
before I step out of my vehicle.
469
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480
I also know that it's important
that I'm outspoken,
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uh, about what is going on.
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When there's nobody
that's willing to speak up,
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it makes it very difficult to fight
for what we know our patients need.
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I can't do that and hide my face.
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Two decades ago,
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there were over 20 abortion clinics
in Alabama.
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00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Now, there are just three,
and they're under siege.
477
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,960
It's not just the protesters
on their doorstep.
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The war on abortion
is also being waged
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to the state legislators
and the courts.
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Alabama clinics have to operate
under tight restrictions.
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Patients have to attend
at least two appointments,
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spaced out by 48 hours,
before the abortion can go ahead.
483
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960
Hello, I'm Dr Robinson.
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I understand you plan
to do the pill, is that correct?
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Because she's early in pregnancy,
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Misty can and take a pill
which will induce a miscarriage.
487
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But the restrictions have made
things much more difficult for her.
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I really appreciate it.
You are so welcome.
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It's three appointments
for me to come here.
490
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,640
They have to be spaced out.
491
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,960
They have to be
at least 48 hours apart,
492
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
you have to do all these things,
493
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640
so we just make it
ridiculously difficult.
494
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,960
And they're continuing
to try and do that more.
495
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Another regulation is that the
patient must undergo an ultrasound
496
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,480
and be offered the option of seeing
what the foetus looks like.
497
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,960
The men who make these rules,
498
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,960
they add an extra ultrasound so that
you have to hear a heartbeat.
499
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960
So that you have to think about
that part of it, and you can't...
500
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
..you can't make your decisions
based on emotion.
501
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,960
You have to make your decisions
based off that.
502
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320
They make it more difficult,
so you won't do it.
503
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,960
They take all your choices,
504
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960
they want to play
on your heartstrings.
505
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,960
Another issue is
the increasing costs of an abortion
506
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
for people living on the breadline.
507
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,960
Alex, who had earlier shared
with me that she had been raped,
508
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,640
has left the pregnancy
until its 20th week.
509
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,960
Why did you wait so long?
510
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,480
I honestly didn't think
I would have funding,
511
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,960
and we were saving
so much money to do it.
512
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,960
You didn't have the money
for the abortion? No.
513
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960
In the end,
she was one of the lucky ones.
514
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,960
A private pro-choice organisation
515
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160
agreed to pay her expenses
for the operation.
516
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,960
But now, she has another
trial to face.
517
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,960
Because her trip is over a weekend,
the delay imposed by the law
518
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,640
means she has to wait almost
a week in Huntsville
519
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,960
before the abortion can go ahead.
520
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,320
This is what's really hurting me
about this situation,
521
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,320
being here in Huntsville with this,
because it's been a week.
522
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,160
And so I'm dealing with this
a week later.
523
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960
That's hateful.
That's the hate to me.
524
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,960
So...
I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
525
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,960
I think patients like that,
526
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,960
they highlight everything
that's wrong with our system.
527
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960
There are very few providers
who can provide the care.
528
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,320
When women can't access
care in a timely manner,
529
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,960
they're pushed to later
in the pregnancy.
530
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,960
She highlights how harmful, um,
restrictions on abortion care,
531
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,960
like waiting periods, how harmful
that can be to patients.
532
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960
Because after she has already
driven so far,
533
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,960
she has to turn around and wait.
534
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,960
I mean, she highlights everything
that's wrong with this.
535
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960
You will feel a little sting.
536
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,960
'Patients like that,
you never forget.'
537
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,960
There is no other medical specialist
that have legislators
538
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,960
constantly challenging the services
they provide to their patients
539
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,960
and how they do it, but I face that,
540
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,960
because I choose to provide
this full spectrum of care,
541
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
including abortion care.
542
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Across the whole of America,
543
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,960
the physical threat
to abortion providers is real.
544
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Since 1977,
there have been 11 murders,
545
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960
26 attempted murders,
546
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,960
42 bombings, 189 arsons
547
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,960
and thousands of other lesser crimes
directed at abortion providers.
548
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,960
I've come to Kansas
to visit a clinic
549
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960
that's suffered brutal violence
over the years.
550
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,800
It's easy to find
the Trust Women centre in Wichita
551
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
because of the giant
anti-abortion van,
552
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,800
and, once again, the protesters
hanging around outside.
553
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,960
So, what are you doing here today?
554
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960
What are we...
We're saving lives out here.
555
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,960
We are trying to convince women that
they don't have to kill their child,
556
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
And what is happening inside
557
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
is the violence that you see
on the side of the truck.
558
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,960
That's the Truth Truck, by the way.
We call that the Truth Truck.
559
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,960
In the war on abortion,
this clinic may be its ground zero.
560
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Hi.
Hi, how are you? I'm Julie.
561
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Julie Burkhart and her staff
are under perhaps the greatest risk
562
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,960
of any clinic workers in America.
563
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960
There are no windows
in this building.
564
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,960
That's correct.
565
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,960
We have just a few windows,
but they're high up.
566
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,320
And the reason for that is
if there's ever a sniper...
567
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,960
..we would be able to keep staff
a little safer.
568
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
'This building's been bombed.'
569
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,480
It's been flooded.
570
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,960
There's one death threat
that still really...
571
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960
I think because it was so graphic.
572
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Following me,
dragging me out of my car
573
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960
and beating me to a bloody pulp.
574
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,960
We live and breathe this every day,
you know, to help other people.
575
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Someone wants to drag you
out of your car
576
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,960
and beat you
to a bloody pulp is, like...
577
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,960
And you're a Christian.
How could you love someone?
578
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,960
How could you say that to someone?
It's just...
579
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Yeah.
580
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960
How? Like, how do you think
that is OK?
581
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,000
I'm not gonna live in fear.
582
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960
I mean, I hope no-one murders me,
because, um...
583
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160
..I think I could have a long life.
584
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,960
It, you know, makes me want
to do it more, it gives me that...
585
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960
It gives me my power back.
586
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,320
Everyone here is haunted
by the memory of an atrocity.
587
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,960
The clinic was founded
by Dr George Tiller.
588
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,480
For decades, he was the premier hate
figure of the anti-abortion movement
589
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,960
because he provided abortions
to women late in pregnancy.
590
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Dr Tiller - he was my boss,
he was my mentor.
591
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,960
He just really wanted people to be
able to live their best lives.
592
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,320
In 1991, thousands of protesters
593
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,960
staged sit-ins for six weeks
outside the clinic.
594
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
In 1993, he was shot and wounded
595
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,960
by an anti-abortion extremist,
Shelley Shannon.
596
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960
But he was soon back at work.
597
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,320
The pressure was intensifying.
598
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,960
My office has been blown up.
599
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
1993, I survived
an assassination attempt.
600
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,960
National television
ran angry debates and opinion pieces
601
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,640
further increasing
awareness of Dr Tiller.
602
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960
NEWSCASTER:
This man, Dr George Tiller,
603
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960
known as "Tiller the baby killer",
604
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
is performing late term abortions
605
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
without defining
the specific medical reasons why.
606
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,960
Dr George Tiller, who is one of
the few doctors in the United States
607
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,960
who performs the Hitlerian procedure
known as a partial birth abortion...
608
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320
Tiller has killed thousands -
thousands -
609
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,320
of late-term foetuses
without explanation.
610
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960
No question,
Dr Tiller has blood on his hands.
611
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,960
"Tiller the killer" is...
612
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,960
It's "Tiller the baby killer",
which is what he is known by...
613
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Oh, "Tiller the baby killer". He is
known by that for certain groups...
614
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Am I not supposed to report that?
615
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,960
We knew he drove
an armoured vehicle,
616
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960
had a bullet-proof vest.
617
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,960
You know, just,
the walls were kind of closing in.
618
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,960
In 2009, they finally got him.
619
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Dr Tiller was shot dead
at his church by an extremist
620
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,960
called Scott Roeder.
621
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960
At his trial,
Roeder defended his actions.
622
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,640
I, uh...
623
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480
..I did what I thought
was needed to be done
624
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,960
to protect the children.
I... I shot him.
625
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,960
Did Dr Tiller
drop to the floor instantly?
626
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,480
Two or three seconds later,
yes, he did.
627
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,960
The lives of those children
were in imminent danger
628
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,960
if someone
did not stop George Tiller.
629
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,960
He was going to continue,
as he had done
630
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960
for 36 years prior to that time.
631
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,960
He was sentenced to life
for first-degree murder.
632
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,800
At first, the clinic was shut down.
633
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,640
But then Julie took the decision
to reopen
634
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960
and carry on Dr Tiller's work.
635
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,800
If I don't stand back up
and other people don't stand back up
636
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,960
and push against these fanatics,
637
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,960
then they will take us over.
638
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,480
SIGHS
639
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Hi, it's nice to meet you.
640
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
It's nice to meet you too.
Come on in, it's raining.
641
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960
You're Jennifer, right?
I am.
642
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Jennifer McCoy has spent years
protesting outside Julie's clinic.
643
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,960
All right, bye-bye. Good.
644
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,960
We're gonna take my car right there.
645
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,320
So you never skip a Friday?
No. Uh-uh.
646
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Why not?
Um, because...
647
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,960
..you miss an opportunity
to help somebody out.
648
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,320
Um, I've been outside this place
a good 25 years.
649
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,960
SHE CHUCKLES
650
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,960
I call it the mill, because
I feel like that's what it is.
651
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,800
It's a kill mill.
652
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960
And I've known Julie
for as long as I've been out there.
653
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,960
I'm fairly certain
she dabbles in the Satanic world,
654
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,160
or at least Wiccans.
655
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,320
Can I offer you some information?
656
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,320
In the 1990s,
Jennifer spent 30 months in prison
657
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,960
after being convicted
of conspiracy to commit arson
658
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,160
against two abortion clinics
in Virginia.
659
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Wrote the wrong time down...
660
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960
She says she campaigns legally now,
661
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,960
spending every Friday
outside Julie's clinic.
662
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
'Have you spoken to Jennifer?'
663
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960
No. I mean, she's yelled at me.
664
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,960
That's as far as
our conversations have gone!
665
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,960
'She's been a fixture.'
666
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,640
You know. So, yeah.
She's one of the names we know.
667
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Jennifer tells me
she became a campaigner
668
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,960
because she was forced to have
an abortion against her will
669
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,960
when she was younger.
670
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Watching the devastation
of somebody else's soul...
671
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,960
and knowing
what they'll go through
672
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000
after they go through this gate,
when they come out...
673
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,960
it honestly wears on people,
if you care about other people.
674
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,960
So many lives,
so many souls are ruined
675
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,000
and hurt and broken,
sometimes beyond repair.
676
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,960
I do feel like
this is where God wants me to be.
677
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960
This is what He wants me to do.
678
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Scott Roeder,
the man who murdered Dr Tiller,
679
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,960
has links with
a shadowy anti-abortion network
680
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
called the Army of God.
681
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Often when people carry out
attacks on clinics,
682
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,960
they claim they are doing it
in the name of the Army of God.
683
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
EXPLOSION
684
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Since the early 1980s,
685
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,960
many bombings,
arson and acid attacks on clinics,
686
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,960
as well as the murder
of at least three abortion doctors,
687
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,960
have been carried out
by domestic terrorists
688
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,960
using the name the Army of God.
689
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
NEWSCASTER:
Two bombs exploded last month
690
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960
at an Atlanta clinic
where abortions are performed.
691
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Oh, my God!
692
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000
A Chicago area man
who federal investigators say
693
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,320
pledged allegiance to the domestic
terror group called Army of God
694
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,960
now facing charges
connected with a threat
695
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
to burn down
a local abortion clinic.
696
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,160
In 2018, Luke Wiersma was arrested
697
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,960
after planning to bomb and burn a
number of Chicago abortion clinics.
698
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960
They say he is a self-professed
member of the Army of God
699
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,960
that federal agents consider to be
700
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,960
a Christian
domestic terror organisation.
701
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,960
He was imprisoned
for a year and a half.
702
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,320
The Army of God's website
703
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
openly celebrates
the murder of abortion doctors
704
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
and praises the killers.
705
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,320
'I'm heading to Virginia to meet
the man who runs the website.'
706
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Donald Spitz is an ordained
Pentecostal minister.
707
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
He tells me that
the Army of God is just a name
708
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000
which people use
when they carry out their actions.
709
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,640
The Army of God is a moniker
710
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,960
that people use
711
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,960
when they bomb an abortion clinic
or burn an abortion clinic
712
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960
or take action
against the abortionists.
713
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Sometimes,
they associate an Army of God,
714
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,960
the name Army of God,
with their action.
715
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,960
I've been accused of being
a spokesperson for the Army of God,
716
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960
or being the head
of the Army of God,
717
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,960
but that's not so.
718
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,960
The Army of God is...
719
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,960
We're not an organisation,
it's not like you get a membership.
720
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
The Army of God is...
721
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,320
..is people that
want to save unborn children
722
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,320
that use force,
or support the use of force,
723
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960
you know, to stop it.
724
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,640
There's many abortionists have quit
because of the Army of God.
725
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,960
He shows me the Army of God website,
726
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,960
which lists prisoners
who have carried out violent actions
727
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,960
as prisoners of Christ.
728
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,960
The first person on the list
is Paul Hill. Paul Hill...
729
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,960
shot an abortionist
and his bodyguard,
730
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,960
and the wife of the bodyguard,
but she survived.
731
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,960
They put Paul Hill to death.
I was there, we were best friends.
732
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
I was his spiritual adviser,
733
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,960
I was with him the last two weeks
of his life, every day.
734
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,960
It was a wonderful time together.
735
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,960
The website has a number of pages
on Dr Tiller.
736
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,960
It compares him to the architects
of the Nazi Holocaust
737
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,960
and appraises Shelley Shannon,
who attacked Dr Tiller in 1993.
738
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,320
She shot Dr Killer in the arms.
739
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,480
He was back the next day.
740
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
He should have taken that
as a warning and quit.
741
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,000
And because he didn't quit,
742
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,960
then God sent Scott Roeder
to finish it off.
743
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,960
The website calls Scott Roeder
an American hero.
744
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,960
A close associate of Spitz
is John Brockhoeft.
745
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,960
He spent seven years in prison for
a string of arson and bomb attacks
746
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,640
on clinics in Cincinnati
in the 1980s.
747
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960
He also agrees to meet me.
748
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,960
I knew that I would be
coming against these targets,
749
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,960
these abortion chambers,
with destructive force.
750
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,960
I knew that I would destroy them,
either by arson or bombing.
751
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,960
People in our movement call it
murder, say abortion is murder,
752
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,480
but when the government
is participating in it,
753
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,960
then...
754
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,960
it's a war crime
and a crime against humanity.
755
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,960
We have body counts,
we have bombings.
756
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
We have soldiers.
757
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,640
We have war criminals and death.
758
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,960
So...
759
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,960
those who are attuned into these
things realise that this is war.
760
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,960
The Lord is gonna restore
his people to power.
761
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,000
We're gonna win this war.
762
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960
What if you're wrong?
763
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,960
I know I'm not wrong.
764
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
But what if you are
on the wrong side of this?
765
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,960
It's inconceivable.
It's inconceivable.
766
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Sure I am. Obviously,
I'm very passionate about it
767
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
and willing to die for it.
768
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,960
What motivated me? Shame.
769
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960
I was ashamed for not doing it.
770
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Before I set those fires,
771
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,320
I couldn't look in the mirror
772
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,960
and hold eye contact with myself
for a very long time.
773
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,960
But after I set those fires,
774
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,960
I could look myself in the mirror
for... indefinitely.
775
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960
What does shame feel like?
776
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960
It's like not liking somebody.
777
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Except the one you...
uh, dislike is yourself.
778
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,320
It's...
like I'm in the Twilight Zone
779
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,960
and I can't get out,
I can't find an exit.
780
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,960
I'm too old for that stuff now.
I have all these health problems.
781
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,960
Yeah. Every day, I'm remorseful.
782
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Because babies are being killed,
and I'm not...
783
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,960
and my response
is not proportionate to the...
784
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,960
enormity and magnitude of the evil
785
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,480
and the urgency
and level of desperation.
786
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Since the election of Donald Trump
in 2016,
787
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,640
bomb threats, invasions and assaults
on staff at abortion clinics
788
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,960
have all escalated.
789
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Nearly half of
all abortion providers
790
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,960
have reported severe violence,
threat of violence
791
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960
or severe harassment.
792
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Since the Trump-Pence
administration,
793
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,960
I've seen a increase in,
like, harassment,
794
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,960
I feel like the protesters
feel more empowered.
795
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:19,480
I've seen more anti-abortion
legislation being pushed forward.
796
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,960
With the Trump administration,
things have gotten worse for women.
797
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,960
I'd like to say this -
there's been a...
798
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,160
a rise in interest
from very young people,
799
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,960
people in their...
young 20s, high teens.
800
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,960
There's been, like,
a new wave of people,
801
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
and some have even taken action,
so that's good.
802
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,960
MAN ON MEGAPHONE: Turn from them
803
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,960
and put our trust in the one
that can help us in a time
804
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,960
when we feel pressured or we feel...
805
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,960
It's January 2020,
806
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,960
the March For Life rally
in Washington DC.
807
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,960
No previous president
808
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,960
has ever personally attended
this annual gathering
809
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,960
of anti-abortion protesters.
810
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
But Donald Trump
is about to change that.
811
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,960
It is my profound honour
to be the first president in history
812
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,960
to attend the March For Life.
813
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,960
CHEERING
814
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960
We're here
for a very simple reason -
815
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,960
to defend the right of every child,
born and unborn,
816
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960
to fulfil their God-given potential.
817
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,960
CHEERING
818
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,960
Donald Trump says
he is opposed to abortion
819
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,320
unless it's to save
the mother's life
820
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960
or in cases of rape or incest.
821
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
In his time in office,
822
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,960
he's restricted funds for
organisations that provide abortion
823
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,960
and placed conservative judges
on the Supreme Court.
824
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960
And we will win,
because we know how to win.
825
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
CHEERING
826
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Abortion is a key issue
in American political life,
827
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,960
and protesters on the March For Life
rally are energised by it.
828
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,960
A physician or a doctor whose job
is to help PROLONG someone's life -
829
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,160
that's a doctor
or a physician's job.
830
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,960
It's a human life.
831
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,800
They should deserve all the rights
and privileges,
832
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,160
even though they've not yet
come to full term.
833
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,960
I just feel that people who aren't
able to stick up for themselves
834
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,640
should have someone
to represent them.
835
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,960
I believe thou shalt not kill, OK?
Thank you.
836
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,960
I meet up with
Jennifer McCoy again -
837
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,960
she's a protester
I had met in Kansas -
838
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
and her friends,
Catherine Ramey and Joan Bell.
839
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,640
They're all long-term
anti-abortion activists.
840
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,000
And I'm a pacifist,
so I would never do anything.
841
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,960
I use direct force.
I have disarmed murder weapons.
842
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,480
I have cut the cords and ripped them
out of abortion machines
843
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
and cut the wires from the machines
so they couldn't do abortions.
844
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
I believe in that.
Non-violent direct force,
845
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,960
that's what I personally believe in.
846
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,960
While filming
in the Alabama Women's Centre,
847
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,960
I had met women who said
they had been raped, such as Alex,
848
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,320
and staff told me
of distressing cases of incest.
849
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Well, we had a little girl
come in here once,
850
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,960
she was 11 years old. She had got
raped by her mum's boyfriend.
851
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,960
And I just knew that that little
girl couldn't go through this.
852
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
She's not even developed yet.
853
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Her little body was so fragile.
854
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,320
So it... it wasn't right.
855
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,960
I asked the protesters
about these kind of cases.
856
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Is abortion ever OK?
No, never.
857
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Never?
Never. Never.
858
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,960
So, incest, rape?
No, of course not. No.
859
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,960
"Of course not"?
Why should a child be punished?
860
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Why should the baby
get the death penalty?
861
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,960
She can give her baby
up for adoption.
862
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960
But that's a forced pregnancy.
863
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,960
You're forcing a woman
to endure pregnancy.
864
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,320
We all go through
circumstances in life
865
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,960
where we are forced to endure
something awful.
866
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
But the 12-year-old girl who has
been raped, you're forcing her
867
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,960
to go through a pregnancy -
she's a human being too.
868
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,960
We don't want her
to cooperate with a murder.
869
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Abortion betrays her humanity.
870
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,960
We ought not to decide
871
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,960
that everybody can do
completely what they want to do.
872
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
So why not just leave it up to the
individuals to make that decision?
873
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,960
I'd like to get out there
and start getting signatures.
874
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,640
That's what I'd like.
875
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,960
At the last election,
those who voted for Donald Trump
876
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,960
included eight out of ten
white evangelicals.
877
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960
I've come back to Alabama
to talk to a man
878
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,960
who is both an ordained minister
879
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,640
and part of the Republican
electoral effort.
880
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,800
Good to see you.
881
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,960
The Reverend James Henderson
and his wife, Carol,
882
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,960
are the organisers of the protest
outside the Alabama Women's Center.
883
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,320
We're here for the public to see
884
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,960
that people do care
and people are out here,
885
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,960
and influencing public opinion
is important,
886
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,960
and with that help,
887
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,960
we have seen four abortion clinics
in Huntsville close.
888
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,960
We were particularly proud to get
Planned Parenthood out of town.
889
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,960
He was a Trump delegate
for the 2016 election
890
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960
and says he met him
at a campaign rally.
891
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,960
I'm confident
that he will exert pressure
892
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,320
to make abortion totally illegal
once and for all in Alabama.
893
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Later, at his home,
I asked the Reverend Henderson
894
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,960
why he supports Donald Trump
when so many allegations
895
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,960
of un-Christian scandals
have surrounded him.
896
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,320
Well, if you look at
biblical examples,
897
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,960
take King David, for instance -
he was not really such a nice guy.
898
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Uh... adultery...
899
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,960
To me, that's a good analogy.
900
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,960
God can use people who have...
901
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,960
attributes that we might not...
uh... really care for,
902
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,960
but if they have the strength
903
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,160
and are willing to take a stand
on certain issues,
904
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,960
and Donald Trump has certainly done
that with abortion.
905
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
A lot of basic values
that a lot of us believe in.
906
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,480
I felt he was the one that...
he was the Lord's choice.
907
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,960
And I still do.
908
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,960
State Senator Jen Jordan of Georgia
909
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,960
is a passionate critic
of Republican policies on abortion.
910
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,960
But no matter my faith, my beliefs,
my losses,
911
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,960
I have never, ever strayed
from the basic principle
912
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,960
that each woman...
913
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,480
each woman must be able
to make her decisions
914
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
in consultation with her god
and her family.
915
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,960
I think that
this is about mobilising
916
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640
a part of the base,
917
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
evangelicals
that are opposed to abortion,
918
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,960
and this is their number one issue.
919
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,960
How do you do get them
to come back out and vote?
920
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,960
How do you get their support?
How do you know energise them,
921
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,960
especially when we have
922
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,160
such a morally bankrupt president?
923
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960
Well, you say it's OK by saying,
924
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,960
"But... but... we were able to get
abortion outlawed".
925
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,960
And, really kind of
the political...
926
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,960
the political deal-making
that's happening,
927
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
and it's happening, you know...
928
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,960
..you know, off the backs of women.
929
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,640
All of it comes from a very deep
place of distrust of women.
930
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:57,960
You know, I hate to say, but it's
kind of the whole idea of, um...
931
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Eve's original sin, right?
932
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,960
One of the big dividing lines
of the upcoming election
933
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,960
is the practice
of late-term abortions.
934
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,160
For the past four years,
935
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,960
Donald Trump has falsely accused
his Democrat rivals
936
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,960
of advocating abortion
even up to the point of birth.
937
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,960
What Hillary is saying,
in the ninth month,
938
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,320
you can take the baby
and rip the baby
939
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,960
out of the womb of the mother,
940
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,160
just prior to the birth of the baby.
941
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
At his State of the Union speech
this year,
942
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,800
he promised to pass
drastic legislation if re-elected.
943
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,960
I am asking Congress
to pass legislation
944
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,960
finally banning
the late-term abortion of babies.
945
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,960
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
946
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,960
Don't, like... Oh, you are?
947
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,160
Well, you're the first,
so don't stress...
948
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,960
I was gonna say,
don't stress about being late.
949
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Trinity is a lawyer
who lives in Georgia.
950
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,000
When she was 20 weeks pregnant,
she had to make the decision
951
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,960
to have an abortion
for medical reasons.
952
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,960
I cannot make the tuck.
953
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,960
I need a French tuck!
954
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,960
She now runs a support group
for women
955
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,960
who have undergone
the same traumatic loss as her.
956
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960
She had extra fluid on her brain.
957
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,480
As less than 10% of them
live to their first birthday,
958
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,800
I felt like...
I think at that moment I knew,
959
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
she's going to die, either way,
if I end the pregnancy,
960
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,000
or if I don't in the pregnancy,
I knew she was gonna die,
961
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,160
and I was like,
"Man, I have to give her a name",
962
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,960
and so we named her...
963
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,960
we named her Angelica that night.
964
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,960
And I know we made the best decision
that we could for her
965
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,960
because we just did not want
Angelica to suffer.
966
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,960
We didn't want...
our living child to suffer, and...
967
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,960
When we went in for the CVS,
968
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960
they did a full,
really detailed ultrasound,
969
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,960
and the valves...
the valves were backwards.
970
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,960
And the doctor said
because of all that,
971
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960
he would never grow lungs
and would never...
972
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,960
..would never take a breath.
973
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,000
And I remember going out to my car,
974
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,960
and then I just screamed
in my car.
975
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,320
I felt so guilty.
976
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,960
And I have no reason to feel guilty,
because he would never have ever
977
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,960
drawn a breath because
he would have never grown lungs.
978
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,160
But I still wanted to carry him,
because I wanted to meet him.
979
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,960
I know you did too.
980
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,960
If late-term abortion is banned,
981
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,960
women like these would have been
forced to carry their babies to term
982
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,640
with fatal medical conditions.
983
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Although he later
withdrew the claim,
984
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,960
during his election campaign
in 2016,
985
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Donald Trump accepted
that women should be punished
986
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,960
for having an abortion.
987
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,960
Do you believe in punishment
for abortion, yes or no?
988
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,160
The answer is that... there
has to be some form of punishment.
989
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,960
For the woman?
Yeah. There has to be some form.
990
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960
Ten years, what?
That I don't know.
991
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,960
Statements like these
992
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,960
have distressed
and angered Trinity's group.
993
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,960
When the President... Yeah,
when the President goes on TV
994
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,960
and says that
you should be punished
995
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,800
for something that you know you did
out of love for your child,
996
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,960
but you should be punished,
997
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,960
or that you are just
wanting to kill your child,
998
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,960
or just waited till
your second trimester to do this,
999
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,960
to me, it just made me so angry.
I could have...
1000
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,960
How dare you? How dare you?
And people are cheering him on
1001
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,960
like he's saying something
that's accurate.
1002
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:46,160
We are so divided, and there is
so much blind hatred right now.
1003
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,960
And there's someone
that has given all of those people
1004
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,960
a free pass to do it
because he does it so much himself
1005
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,960
and seems to feed off of it.
1006
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,960
I head back to Dr Robinson's clinic
in Huntsville.
1007
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,960
A high percentage of her patients
1008
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,960
come from the poor,
rural areas of Alabama.
1009
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Although the war on abortion
is often spoken about
1010
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,960
in terms of women's rights,
what's often ignored
1011
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,960
is the particular impact it can have
on women of colour.
1012
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Through poverty or lack of access
to care, a disproportionate number
1013
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,960
of African-American women
have abortions.
1014
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,960
This is Rebecca.
1015
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,960
I'm here to terminate a pregnancy
1016
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640
because I'm high risk,
1017
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,960
and I'm really young, and I already
have a four-year-old daughter.
1018
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,960
I'm not financially stable enough
to carry another baby,
1019
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,800
and I'm not even mentally in a place
to carry another baby.
1020
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,960
This is not a place
for my baby boy right now.
1021
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,160
This world?
This world.
1022
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,960
No. I'm sending my baby
back with the angels.
1023
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Not here in this hell on Earth.
Uh-uh.
1024
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,960
Lashonda is the head nurse.
1025
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,640
There is no area
that women of colour
1026
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,320
are gonna be equal
to their white counterparts.
1027
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,960
We die at alarmingly high rates
just from natural childbirth.
1028
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,960
So, no, women of colour
don't have the same level of care,
1029
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,960
they don't have the same access,
they don't have the same privilege.
1030
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,960
We don't have the same resources
1031
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,960
as far as if abortion is illegal
in Alabama,
1032
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,960
my parents can't fly me to Wisconsin
to get an abortion.
1033
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Most people don't have
that level of care,
1034
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
they don't have
that level of access.
1035
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,000
You know,
I've never been more afraid
1036
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,800
that our rights as women
are gonna be taken away.
1037
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Dr Sanithia Williams works alongside
Dr Robinson at the clinic.
1038
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:03,960
You are told that...
somehow, it is wrong
1039
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,960
for you not to continue
your pregnancy, but...
1040
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,960
you don't have access to housing,
1041
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,960
you don't have access to healthy,
nutritious, affordable food.
1042
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,960
You don't have access to...
1043
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,960
safe living areas
for your children to play.
1044
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,960
You're basically told
by your government
1045
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,960
that you gotta just figure it out.
1046
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Don't have an abortion,
but figure it out.
1047
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,960
Racism touches everything
in this country.
1048
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,960
We are birthed into it.
1049
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,960
It is...
1050
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,960
It is in everything, right?
1051
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,800
It is in every, you know,
experience that I've ever had.
1052
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,960
Um...
1053
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,960
..even though I know
that we have made a lot of progress,
1054
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960
you know,
racism is still alive and well.
1055
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,960
It's not just us complaining, saying
that we are treated differently
1056
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:03,960
and we don't have access to
the same things. I see it play out.
1057
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,960
Being a woman of colour,
1058
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,960
it's like we're not seen.
We are not...
1059
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640
We're not seen as important.
1060
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,960
And I think that's why,
in this whole war,
1061
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,960
that women of colour
have been forgotten.
1062
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,960
Under Donald Trump's term in office,
a number of Republican states
1063
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,320
have passed laws
severely restricting abortion.
1064
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,960
In 2019, Alabama banned it
even for rape or incest.
1065
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,960
None of these state laws
1066
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,480
can come into action
because they're overruled
1067
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,800
by the landmark Supreme Court
decision Roe vs Wade.
1068
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,960
But just as I finished
making this film,
1069
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,960
the nightmare of America's
abortion providers came true.
1070
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,960
CHANTING: Honour her wish,
honour her wish...
1071
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died
1072
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,960
and gave Donald Trump the chance
1073
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,960
to establish
a decisive conservative majority
1074
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,960
at the Supreme Court.
1075
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,800
If Roe vs Wade is overturned,
1076
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,960
states such as Alabama
may be allowed
1077
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,640
to severely restrict
or even ban abortion.
1078
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,640
An American woman's right to choose
hangs in the balance.
1079
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,960
Trusting patients to know
what's best for their lives
1080
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,960
and allowing them
to make those decisions -
1081
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,640
when you have people in office
who don't understand that
1082
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,960
or who don't care about that,
it's gonna hurt women.
1083
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,960
Jesus says,
"If you love me, obey my commands."
1084
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,960
His commands are,
"Thou shalt not murder,"
1085
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,960
and they are murdering these babies.
1086
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,960
It's a war on children.
1087
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,960
It's a war on a human being
in the womb.
1088
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,960
You know...
1089
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:04,160
you're kind of taking the lid off
a really dark...
1090
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,960
kind of place in this country.
1091
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,960
This is...
I mean, this is the battle.
1092
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,960
The soul of the country, right?
1093
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,960
And maybe we aren't exactly
where we thought we were.
1094
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,320
It's such a tragedy that we just...
we can't just let it be.
1095
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,800
We just have to do all we can.
1096
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,960
I'm 78 years old,
1097
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,960
but I'll take my last breath
trying to save those babies.
1098
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,960
Can I... What can I do?
What do you need?
1099
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,960
Yeah.
1100
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,960
OK.
1101
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,960
You can do this.
You all can do this.
1102
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,960
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