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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,669 --> 00:00:03,737 Narrator: Previously on "Hunting Hitler"... 2 00:00:03,771 --> 00:00:07,308 This is from June 12, 1945. 3 00:00:07,341 --> 00:00:08,809 Look at this line. 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:10,644 "At this time, the decision had been taken 5 00:00:10,678 --> 00:00:12,746 to divide the ministries in two parts 6 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:14,448 and establish one government in the north 7 00:00:14,482 --> 00:00:16,050 and one in the south." 8 00:00:16,084 --> 00:00:18,586 What this file tells me is they're splitting up, 9 00:00:18,619 --> 00:00:21,322 creating multiple escape routes. 10 00:00:22,490 --> 00:00:23,757 Bakos: This one's from U.S. Army. 11 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:25,559 "Kaltenbrunner was arrested. 12 00:00:25,593 --> 00:00:27,228 He had been hiding in a mountain cabin 13 00:00:27,261 --> 00:00:28,696 called 'Wildensee Hut.'" 14 00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:30,298 He was Commander in Chief 15 00:00:30,331 --> 00:00:32,600 of all German forces in Southern Europe. 16 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:34,302 He knows how to get away. 17 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:36,670 So why did he hang out in this hut? 18 00:00:39,207 --> 00:00:41,242 Holland: We both agree that this is a dead-end spot. 19 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:45,079 What if his sole purpose was drawing somebody up 20 00:00:45,113 --> 00:00:47,781 into the absolute worst direction to flee? 21 00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:52,153 Meanwhile, everyone else is using all these better routes 22 00:00:52,186 --> 00:00:53,454 to get out of here. 23 00:00:53,487 --> 00:00:56,257 This file's telling us that they've got 24 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:59,860 a special-weapons plant here in Rjukan, Norway. 25 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:03,831 We know Hitler fantasized about destroying Manhattan. 26 00:01:03,864 --> 00:01:06,100 Was that weapon being developed here? 27 00:01:06,134 --> 00:01:08,402 What's going on at Rjukan will tell us 28 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:10,504 what their plans were for the Fourth Reich. 29 00:01:12,473 --> 00:01:13,607 Heavy water wamade here? 30 00:01:13,641 --> 00:01:15,176 It was made here, yes. 31 00:01:15,209 --> 00:01:16,677 This is Adolf Hitler 32 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:18,446 developing a component for a nuclear weapon. 33 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:20,080 Where were they storing it? 34 00:01:23,284 --> 00:01:24,785 Kennedy: I think I can fit in there. 35 00:01:27,755 --> 00:01:31,725 We have to know where the Nazis could have moved heavy water 36 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,827 and what they were gonna do with it. 37 00:01:33,861 --> 00:01:36,564 I see a room back there. There's nothing in there. 38 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:37,731 It's empty. 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,506 ** 40 00:01:45,539 --> 00:01:47,475 Baer: Look at everything we found in Norway. 41 00:01:47,508 --> 00:01:50,778 We've got a country that's sympathetic to the Nazis. 42 00:01:50,811 --> 00:01:53,814 We found defenses. It's a fortress. 43 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:56,650 Narrator: 21-year CIA veteran Bob Baer 44 00:01:56,684 --> 00:01:59,820 and former terrorist-targeting officer Nada Bakos 45 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:02,523 are using an asset-mapping strategy, 46 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:04,658 tracking Hitler's known associates 47 00:02:04,692 --> 00:02:07,761 to pinpoint exactly where he could have gone after the war. 48 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:10,464 The team is investigating 49 00:02:10,498 --> 00:02:13,734 two possible escape routes for Adolf Hitler -- 50 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:16,537 a southern route through Altaussee, Austria, 51 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:19,540 and a northern route through Rjukan, Norway, 52 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:22,443 where, in the basement of a demolished factory, 53 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:25,613 they have uncovered evidence of a Nazi secret operation 54 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:27,681 to manufacture heavy water, 55 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:31,419 a key compound in nuclear-weapons production. 56 00:02:31,452 --> 00:02:33,187 The team was able to get into that basement, 57 00:02:33,221 --> 00:02:35,623 and they found that there wasn't any heavy water there. 58 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:37,791 The Nazis could have gotten it out. 59 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:40,661 Hitler fantasized about having a nuclear bomb, 60 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:44,798 and the key facility for making one is here in Norway. 61 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:46,667 Weapons of mass destruction 62 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,902 would be a "Get Out of Jail Free" card. 63 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:50,971 Hitler understood this. 64 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:53,207 If Hitler is gonna go to South America 65 00:02:53,241 --> 00:02:55,876 and he wants to survive and establish the Fourth Reich, 66 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:57,645 he needs a bomb. 67 00:02:57,678 --> 00:02:59,680 He's not gonna do it with a conventional army. 68 00:02:59,713 --> 00:03:01,349 You don't have a plan without the bomb. 69 00:03:01,382 --> 00:03:05,419 And South America has a fair amount of natural uranium. 70 00:03:05,453 --> 00:03:07,721 So in order for this heavy water to be useful, 71 00:03:07,755 --> 00:03:11,392 they need to get it from Norway down to South America 72 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,794 to combine it with the uranium. 73 00:03:13,827 --> 00:03:16,697 Narrator: In the 1940s, heavy water was at the center 74 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:18,832 of the Nazi nuclear program. 75 00:03:18,866 --> 00:03:21,001 Created by running massive electrical current 76 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:23,771 through normal water, this key ingredient 77 00:03:23,804 --> 00:03:26,974 was combined with uranium to make plutonium, 78 00:03:27,007 --> 00:03:30,811 the explosive component of a nuclear bomb. 79 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:32,913 At this point in the war, 80 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:37,385 the only way to get this stuff to South America is by boat. 81 00:03:37,418 --> 00:03:40,721 They do not have a plane that can make it to Argentina. 82 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,456 We have to dig into the records. 83 00:03:44,658 --> 00:03:46,960 Look at this. U.S. Army. 84 00:03:46,994 --> 00:03:49,497 April 7, 1945 -- 85 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:52,466 "Nazi U-boat bases in Norway." 86 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:57,938 "In Narvik was the Aviso Grille, formerly 'Fuehrer-Yacht,' 87 00:03:57,971 --> 00:04:00,908 which served as headquarters for the command 88 00:04:00,941 --> 00:04:03,811 of all U-boats in Norway." 89 00:04:03,844 --> 00:04:06,314 What we've got here is Hitler 90 00:04:06,347 --> 00:04:08,816 personally involved in this operation. 91 00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:11,352 His personal yacht has been converted 92 00:04:11,385 --> 00:04:14,288 to a command boat for U-boats. 93 00:04:14,322 --> 00:04:20,394 Narrator: Commissioned in 1935, Hitler's 440-foot Aviso Grille 94 00:04:20,428 --> 00:04:22,530 was the largest yacht in the world, 95 00:04:22,563 --> 00:04:25,399 a gift from the people to its ruler. 96 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:29,437 In addition to 35 luxury cabins for hosting diplomats, 97 00:04:29,470 --> 00:04:31,739 the Grille was modified with three cannons, 98 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:35,543 six anti-aircraft guns, and two machine guns. 99 00:04:35,576 --> 00:04:38,346 Hitler used the boat to inspect the German Navy 100 00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:40,881 and had dreams of sailing victorious into London 101 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:43,451 if the Nazis had won the war. 102 00:04:43,484 --> 00:04:45,719 Using Hitler's yacht tells me 103 00:04:45,753 --> 00:04:47,955 that this was a clandestine operation. 104 00:04:47,988 --> 00:04:50,958 Using it to move the heavy water, that would make sense. 105 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:52,526 Baer: Hitler's yacht tells us 106 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,596 that Narvik was extremely important to Hitler. 107 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:59,700 Something is going on here which I need an explanation for. 108 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:00,734 Where is Narvik? 109 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:02,870 Narvik is right here, 110 00:05:02,903 --> 00:05:07,541 the top of Norway, completely off the grid. 111 00:05:07,575 --> 00:05:10,578 Here's all the Allied activity right in here, 112 00:05:10,611 --> 00:05:12,513 and you simply go around 113 00:05:12,546 --> 00:05:16,450 either over the Faroe Islands or even over Iceland. 114 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:19,887 This completely bypasses the entire action 115 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,989 at the end of World War II. 116 00:05:22,022 --> 00:05:26,994 Was Narvik the staging point to send heavy water to Argentina 117 00:05:27,027 --> 00:05:31,499 to make a nuclear bomb to create the Fourth Reich? 118 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:37,471 ** 119 00:05:37,505 --> 00:05:43,577 ** 120 00:05:43,611 --> 00:05:45,913 Kennedy: This could have been headquarters 121 00:05:45,946 --> 00:05:48,849 for U-boat activity, but we have to investigate 122 00:05:48,882 --> 00:05:51,084 to see what they actually were doing here. 123 00:05:51,118 --> 00:05:54,388 Narrator: Investigating Hitler's potential northern escape route, 124 00:05:54,422 --> 00:05:56,824 U.S. Army Special Forces Tim Kennedy 125 00:05:56,857 --> 00:05:58,826 lands in Narvik, Norway. 126 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:01,995 Kennedy: If Hitler's yacht was located here in Narvik 127 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:05,699 and it was serving as the headquarters for U-boats, 128 00:06:05,733 --> 00:06:09,503 they would also be capable of transporting cargo and materiel 129 00:06:09,537 --> 00:06:12,873 like heavy water out of Europe and into South America. 130 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:17,778 Harald. Hello, Tim. 131 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:21,782 Narrator: Tim makes contact with maritime historian Harald Isaksen 132 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:23,984 who has studied Nazi infrastructure and activity 133 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:26,487 in Narvik over the last century. 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,021 We have a document that says 135 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:30,791 the Fuehrer had his yacht here in Narvik. 136 00:06:32,159 --> 00:06:34,895 Have you heard of Hitler's yacht 137 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:37,130 being used as the headquarters for the submarines? Yes. 138 00:06:50,878 --> 00:06:52,546 Wow. 139 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:54,748 Even after Germany surrendered, 140 00:06:54,782 --> 00:06:58,051 there are still 15 boats here, completely operational. 141 00:06:58,085 --> 00:06:59,653 They were ready to go 142 00:06:59,687 --> 00:07:02,690 and do whatever the Nazis needed them to do. 143 00:07:02,723 --> 00:07:05,859 There's no question that this is a hub for Nazi activity. 144 00:07:05,893 --> 00:07:08,696 Why did they move the headquarters 145 00:07:08,729 --> 00:07:11,031 for the submarines to Narvik? 146 00:07:42,162 --> 00:07:45,966 So on May 4th, the Allies did a bombing in this area? 147 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:48,902 That's incredible. 148 00:07:48,936 --> 00:07:50,838 The Allies are coming here on May 4th. 149 00:07:50,871 --> 00:07:52,606 The war is over. 150 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,008 They're -- They're not trying to turn the tides. 151 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:56,610 They're not trying to win a battle. 152 00:07:56,644 --> 00:07:58,712 There's no doubt that they knew 153 00:07:58,746 --> 00:08:00,914 there was something valuable that they needed to bomb, 154 00:08:00,948 --> 00:08:02,583 that they needed to destroy. 155 00:08:02,616 --> 00:08:04,618 They were trying to prevent the Nazis 156 00:08:04,652 --> 00:08:06,253 from getting something out. 157 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:10,057 We know that heavy water was being produced in Norway. 158 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:12,993 Do you think that that heavy water got out of Norway? 159 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:32,145 I-Is there any evidence that's left that they didn't destroy? 160 00:08:45,659 --> 00:08:47,294 According to Harald, 161 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:49,329 there are things that shouldn't be on the ocean floor -- 162 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:52,900 equipment, cargo, or maybe even samples of heavy water 163 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:55,135 that they are transporting to South America. 164 00:08:55,168 --> 00:08:56,303 Where should I look? 165 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:05,245 If we're gonna find any evidence of the Germans 166 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:07,915 moving heavy water out of the Narvik area, 167 00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:09,750 it's gonna be right here. 168 00:09:09,783 --> 00:09:11,752 This was their chance of making the Fourth Reich 169 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:13,587 come to fruition. 170 00:09:13,621 --> 00:09:15,255 If there's something there, we're gonna find it. 171 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,263 ** 172 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:28,201 Sounds to me like this is the last bastion of the Third Reich. 173 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:31,271 The question is, were they moving heavy water out of this port? 174 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:33,907 Narrator: While the team continues to investigate 175 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:36,910 Hitler's potential northern escape route in Norway, 176 00:09:36,944 --> 00:09:38,812 Bob and Nada dig into the findings 177 00:09:38,846 --> 00:09:40,347 from the southern escape route 178 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:43,784 through Altaussee, Austria, where the team uncovered 179 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:46,386 that two of Hitler's close associates -- 180 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:49,022 Ernst Kaltenbrunner and Adolf Eichmann -- 181 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,191 were hiding out after the war. 182 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:53,260 We know Eichmann gets to South America, 183 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:54,795 so we know the route worked. 184 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:56,296 But how did he get there? 185 00:09:56,329 --> 00:10:01,168 It's not easy to cross borders in 1945. 186 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:03,370 We figure out how Eichmann managed this, 187 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:06,273 we can figure out how other Nazis managed it, 188 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:10,010 and we can figure out whether it was adequate to get Hitler out. 189 00:10:10,043 --> 00:10:11,945 We need to look into the route that Eichmann used, 190 00:10:11,979 --> 00:10:14,314 see if we can retrace his steps. 191 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:19,019 So let's search for Eichmann within 150 miles of Altaussee. 192 00:10:19,052 --> 00:10:20,888 Look. Here we go. 193 00:10:20,921 --> 00:10:24,825 CIA, 1950, "Eichmann's Flight." 194 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:28,261 "Good old Frau Huber gave me a schnapps 195 00:10:28,295 --> 00:10:31,832 then dispatched me to another inn near the Brenner. 196 00:10:31,865 --> 00:10:35,035 My hostess, who belonged to the 'organization,' 197 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:36,704 was on the ball." 198 00:10:36,737 --> 00:10:38,305 This says it all. 199 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:42,375 We've got a network that gets Eichmann out of Altaussee 200 00:10:42,409 --> 00:10:45,813 and out of the way of U.S. troops. 201 00:10:45,846 --> 00:10:48,448 He had people that would protect him. 202 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,851 Yeah, they had a whole facilitation network set up. 203 00:10:50,884 --> 00:10:54,021 The Brenner Pass is a mountain road 204 00:10:54,054 --> 00:10:56,423 that goes from Austria to Italy. 205 00:10:56,456 --> 00:11:00,060 The region is called Tyrol. It's German-speaking. 206 00:11:00,093 --> 00:11:05,733 The Tyrol region is shared by Austria, Switzerland, Italy. 207 00:11:05,766 --> 00:11:07,968 It's basically this area right in here. 208 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:11,304 We found Nazis operating in the tri-border region 209 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:14,942 between Brazil, Paraguay, and Argentina, 210 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:18,746 and now we have Nazis operating in another tri-border region 211 00:11:18,779 --> 00:11:22,015 between Switzerland, Austria, and Italy. 212 00:11:22,049 --> 00:11:24,317 All fugitives head to border regions 213 00:11:24,351 --> 00:11:28,188 because they know it's where you can operate freely. 214 00:11:28,221 --> 00:11:30,323 This area reminds me of Afghanistan and Pakistan 215 00:11:30,357 --> 00:11:33,293 and the tribal areas where the borders are somewhat irrelevant. 216 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:36,429 These are people who share culture and a language, 217 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:38,866 and that, especially for Eichmann, 218 00:11:38,899 --> 00:11:40,934 is one of the most important reasons 219 00:11:40,968 --> 00:11:42,770 for him to use this area. 220 00:11:42,803 --> 00:11:46,139 We've established that Eichmann got to South America. 221 00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:48,441 Were there other Nazis using this network? 222 00:11:48,475 --> 00:11:51,912 Could that have included moving Adolf Hitler? 223 00:11:51,945 --> 00:11:54,314 I want to get the team to Tyrol to investigate. 224 00:11:54,347 --> 00:11:59,753 ** 225 00:11:59,787 --> 00:12:05,125 ** 226 00:12:05,158 --> 00:12:06,794 Simpson: Just looking at this place 227 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:09,229 knowing that Eichmann was here makes me shudder. 228 00:12:09,262 --> 00:12:12,165 Narrator: Along Hitler's potential southern escape route, 229 00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:14,768 World War II historian James Holland, 230 00:12:14,802 --> 00:12:17,337 U.S. Army Green Beret Mike Simpson, 231 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:20,373 and their translator, Katja, land in Tyrol, 232 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:23,376 the border region between Austria and Italy. 233 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:25,779 Eichmann talked about coming here 234 00:12:25,813 --> 00:12:29,817 and being sent over the border by an organization, 235 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:32,152 and we've come here to investigate this organization. 236 00:12:32,185 --> 00:12:33,987 How widespread was it? 237 00:12:34,021 --> 00:12:37,891 How important was it for Nazi war criminals on the run? 238 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:40,193 Hello. Guten tag. 239 00:12:40,227 --> 00:12:43,430 Narrator: The team makes contact with Andreas Hortnagl, 240 00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:46,066 the former mayor of Gries am Brenner, 241 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:49,036 the town on the Austrian border of the Brenner Pass. 242 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:51,872 Holland: So where is the pass in relation to where we're standing now? 243 00:12:56,176 --> 00:12:57,878 Seebohm: These are the Brenner Mountains. 244 00:12:57,911 --> 00:13:01,148 The border is exactly on this mountain here. 245 00:13:01,181 --> 00:13:02,950 The Brenner is right down the hill. 246 00:13:02,983 --> 00:13:05,052 If we were to walk down, that's where we'd be. 247 00:13:05,085 --> 00:13:08,121 Simpson: So this is Austria, but that's Italy 248 00:13:08,155 --> 00:13:09,890 right there on the other side of the pass. 249 00:13:11,158 --> 00:13:14,061 This is the lowest part of the Alps. 250 00:13:14,094 --> 00:13:15,863 So even in Roman times, 251 00:13:15,896 --> 00:13:18,531 the legions came through this pass, here. 252 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:20,133 So, at the end of the war, 253 00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:22,235 was there an influx of Nazis into this area? 254 00:13:22,269 --> 00:13:25,172 He says, "People were flooding down this road. 255 00:13:25,205 --> 00:13:28,375 You had civilian refugees, German soldiers, 256 00:13:28,408 --> 00:13:30,110 and people, of course, fleeing justice." 257 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:35,482 Really, the perfect cover for fleeing Nazis to mix in with. 258 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:39,086 So, do you know where Eichmann crossed? 259 00:13:39,119 --> 00:13:43,123 It was done in absolute secrecy. 260 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:45,592 So, first he spent three days there in the valley. 261 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:48,896 There was an inn, and if things got dangerous, 262 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:50,864 it was quite easy to, then, quickly move 263 00:13:50,898 --> 00:13:52,465 to a farmhouse nearby. 264 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:53,934 Just down here? 265 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:56,169 Down here, went up that mountain, 266 00:13:56,203 --> 00:13:59,039 and had a guide, a smuggler, to lead him up. 267 00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:01,641 But why would you need a guide? 268 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:04,477 I mean, that looks not at all challenging in the slightest. 269 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:07,514 The same reason people crossing our southern border 270 00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:09,582 need the coyotajes to bring them across. 271 00:14:09,616 --> 00:14:11,551 You need somebody who knows the territory 272 00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:13,420 and also knows where there might be 273 00:14:13,453 --> 00:14:15,889 any border security patrols, how to avoid that. 274 00:14:15,923 --> 00:14:17,290 It's not a simple matter 275 00:14:17,324 --> 00:14:19,626 of getting a compass direction and going. 276 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,929 Simpson: It was already known that Eichmann had been here 277 00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:23,430 and had crossed the border here, 278 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:27,134 but then Andreas uses the word "smuggler." 279 00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:29,436 This paints an entirely new picture. 280 00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:32,472 Any Nazi soldier who was just fleeing 281 00:14:32,505 --> 00:14:35,242 Germany after the war would have had a support network. 282 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:36,243 This was planned. 283 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,644 So, the question is, 284 00:14:37,677 --> 00:14:39,546 what resources were at their disposal? 285 00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:41,148 That's what we have to find out. 286 00:14:41,181 --> 00:14:43,083 Holland: I just wonder whether there are 287 00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:45,418 any of these smugglers still alive. 288 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:47,387 Seebohm: He knows of a Herr Schupf, 289 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:51,324 who had a very, very close relationship with the smuggling. 290 00:14:51,358 --> 00:14:53,126 That's huge. 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:59,232 ** 292 00:14:59,266 --> 00:15:01,935 This is a place in our investigation 293 00:15:01,969 --> 00:15:05,672 that hasn't been closely looked at before in this aspect. 294 00:15:05,705 --> 00:15:10,310 Narrator: James, Mike, and Katja made contact with Walter Schupf, 295 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:13,981 a former smuggler for Nazi war criminals in the Tyrol region. 296 00:15:14,014 --> 00:15:17,517 Holland: So, how did you get into that line of work? 297 00:15:22,322 --> 00:15:24,958 Seebohm: He's been a smuggler since he was 13 years old. 298 00:15:24,992 --> 00:15:26,659 His father took him along. 299 00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:29,329 They smuggled coffee and cigarettes from Switzerland, 300 00:15:29,362 --> 00:15:31,965 and there was a great deal of poverty here, 301 00:15:31,999 --> 00:15:34,601 and the only way to survive was through smuggling. 302 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:37,670 Simpson: Do you remember the first time that your cargo was people? 303 00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:52,752 After the war, there are a great many 304 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:55,155 displaced people and refugees, 305 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:57,557 especially soldiers trying to get back home, 306 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:59,259 and since he was born and raised here, 307 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:00,727 he knows every mountain path, 308 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,263 and he helped a lot of people cross. 309 00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:05,398 Were there people that you smuggled 310 00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:07,734 that you know for sure were Nazis? 311 00:16:10,370 --> 00:16:12,372 He says, "There were Nazis being smuggled 312 00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:15,708 from the other side of the border across to here." 313 00:16:15,742 --> 00:16:17,477 Holland: Oh, wow. 314 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:27,187 Yep. Smuggling kept them alive. 315 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:32,125 Holland: Life at the end of the war 316 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,794 was incredibly tough in this corner of Tyrol. 317 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:38,731 There was just no jobs around, there was no money around, 318 00:16:38,765 --> 00:16:41,568 and you had to do what you had to do. 319 00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:44,171 Holland: So, in those years after the war, 320 00:16:44,204 --> 00:16:48,408 if I was quite a well-known Nazi or a war criminal, 321 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:50,243 even a head of state, 322 00:16:50,277 --> 00:16:53,580 and I was trying to get into Italy from Austria, 323 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:55,448 do you think it would be possible? 324 00:16:55,482 --> 00:16:58,551 Absolutely easy because they had a lot of money. 325 00:17:03,123 --> 00:17:07,127 Did they have specific smugglers that they preferred 326 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,061 and that they worked with? 327 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:11,531 They already had connections. 328 00:17:11,564 --> 00:17:13,666 Do you think there was some kind of organization, 329 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:17,137 some network, for these war criminals? 330 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:19,506 Yes. 331 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:21,374 So they were using people that they trusted. 332 00:17:21,408 --> 00:17:23,810 They'd already vetted them and organized them. 333 00:17:23,843 --> 00:17:26,179 Paints a very coordinated picture. 334 00:17:26,213 --> 00:17:27,547 Well, it's painting two pictures, isn't it? 335 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:29,349 There's the kind of ordinary people, 336 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,717 and then there's the special cases, 337 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:33,453 and that's two completely different setups. 338 00:17:33,486 --> 00:17:35,322 Simpson: It's a perfect recipe. 339 00:17:35,355 --> 00:17:37,524 Not only were there smugglers for hire 340 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:40,760 willing to take these escaping Nazis across the border, 341 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:44,597 but the upper crust would have had more resources to cross. 342 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:46,733 This is very exciting news. 343 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:48,335 This could very well have been 344 00:17:48,368 --> 00:17:50,603 the same organization and infrastructure 345 00:17:50,637 --> 00:17:53,440 that helped Adolf Hitler to flee as well. 346 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,751 Obviously, this is a smuggling ring. 347 00:18:04,784 --> 00:18:07,320 And you could smuggle about just anything you wanted 348 00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:09,222 across these borders. 349 00:18:09,256 --> 00:18:11,258 Narrator: While the team continues to investigate 350 00:18:11,291 --> 00:18:13,726 Hitler's potential southern escape route, 351 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,695 Bob and Nada shift their focus 352 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:18,698 to the northern escape route in Norway 353 00:18:18,731 --> 00:18:22,302 where a declassified file points to the port of Narvik 354 00:18:22,335 --> 00:18:26,206 as a possible location the Nazis used to move heavy water, 355 00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:28,775 a key component in nuclear-weapons manufacturing, 356 00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:30,443 out of Europe. 357 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:33,746 The Nazis put a lot of time and money 358 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,783 into making heavy water here in Norway. 359 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:40,187 At Bariloche in Argentina, they had a nuclear reactor 360 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:42,455 that required heavy water. 361 00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:45,225 -Oh, my God. -This is the reactor place. 362 00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:47,760 Was planning to make it very big. 363 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:50,397 This is to prevent radiation from escaping. 364 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:52,265 They didn't make it locally, 365 00:18:52,299 --> 00:18:55,602 so you smuggle the heavy water out of Norway, 366 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:58,871 get it to Argentina, and you're ready to go. 367 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,908 So I think what we need to do is find concrete proof 368 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,344 of how they were moving heavy water 369 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:06,946 out of here to South America, 370 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:10,517 but our only evidence is gonna be underneath the water. 371 00:19:10,550 --> 00:19:12,285 It is a port. 372 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,687 There's probably a lot of stuff scattered along there. 373 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:18,758 What we're looking for is ways to hold it -- containers -- 374 00:19:18,791 --> 00:19:20,960 and ways to put it on boats. 375 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,730 If we can find examples of this infrastructure, 376 00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:25,565 it's gonna put the pieces together for us. 377 00:19:25,598 --> 00:19:27,567 We need to get the team out in the water. 378 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,805 ** 379 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:38,445 ** 380 00:19:38,478 --> 00:19:41,281 If you put anti-aircraft guns on these mountains, 381 00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:44,751 you put big guns by the sea, this is impenetrable. 382 00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:47,920 Narrator: Along Hitler's potential northern escape route 383 00:19:47,954 --> 00:19:52,325 in Narvik, Norway, Tim Kennedy continues to investigate 384 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,527 whether the Nazis were able to move heavy water 385 00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:57,730 out of Northern Norway and on to South America. 386 00:19:57,764 --> 00:19:59,799 Kennedy: Guys, are we good? 387 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:01,601 -Yeah. -All right. 388 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:02,902 Narrator: Joining the investigation 389 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,372 is marine surveyor Frank Anderson 390 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,374 and his research team. 391 00:20:07,407 --> 00:20:09,409 Working off local intel, 392 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:12,779 the team will search two miles of a deep-water fjord 393 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:16,849 to try and uncover any remaining evidence of Nazi infrastructure 394 00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:20,887 that could have supported the transportation of heavy water. 395 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,292 Let's start getting our gear on the boat and get on the water. 396 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:28,495 If the Germans were moving heavy water out of Narvik, 397 00:20:28,528 --> 00:20:30,263 they would have to have infrastructure, 398 00:20:30,297 --> 00:20:31,998 equipment, and boats. 399 00:20:32,031 --> 00:20:33,766 We have a general area of interest. 400 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,368 The only thing left for us to do 401 00:20:35,402 --> 00:20:37,404 is get on the water and see what we can find. 402 00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:43,810 This is our target area. R.O.V.'s going in the water. 403 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:49,382 Narrator: Tim deploys an underwater R.O.V., 404 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:51,584 or remotely operated vehicle, 405 00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,786 equipped with side-scan sonar technology, 406 00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:55,755 similar to what the United States Navy 407 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:58,625 uses to reveal the location of enemy vessels 408 00:20:58,658 --> 00:21:00,727 hiding along the ocean floor. 409 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,297 Using an acoustic pulse, this state-of-the-art equipment 410 00:21:04,331 --> 00:21:06,766 is able to detect underwater anomalies 411 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,336 up to 1,000 feet in depth. 412 00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:17,710 ** 413 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:19,879 Have we had any potential targets yet? 414 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:25,852 After two hours of scanning the two-mile search area, 415 00:21:25,885 --> 00:21:29,656 the team has yet to locate any anomalies on the seafloor. 416 00:21:38,565 --> 00:21:39,532 Kennedy: What is that? 417 00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:46,072 We are right in the center of our area of interest. 418 00:21:46,105 --> 00:21:48,975 That's not coincidence. Can you tell what that is? 419 00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:55,014 -So, we got something. -Yeah. 420 00:21:55,047 --> 00:21:56,716 -Yeah. 421 00:21:56,749 --> 00:21:57,784 Yeah, mark it. 422 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,654 Let's keep looking. 423 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,656 Narrator: Located a half-mile offshore 424 00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:05,658 and 30 feet below the water, 425 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:09,896 the team has detected a manmade object nearly 15 feet wide. 426 00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:13,666 Kennedy: Zoom out a little bit. 427 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,702 Is there anything right there? 428 00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:17,904 Just that section right there in the middle. 429 00:22:19,739 --> 00:22:21,408 Yeah. 430 00:22:21,441 --> 00:22:23,410 Yeahyou see, you have, like, perpendicular lines. 431 00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:24,911 You have a vertical line here 432 00:22:24,944 --> 00:22:26,579 and a horizontal line that cross section right there. 433 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,783 What was the depth of that? 434 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,919 50 435 00:22:32,952 --> 00:22:35,655 -Yeah. -Mark it. 436 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:38,925 Narrator: The team has now found a second anomaly, 437 00:22:38,958 --> 00:22:41,861 located 2,600 feet from the first hit 438 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:45,398 and 60 feet down on the ocean floor. 439 00:22:45,432 --> 00:22:48,768 With more than 90% of their search area covered, 440 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,804 the team begins to scan the final sector. 441 00:22:54,807 --> 00:23:00,413 ** 442 00:23:00,447 --> 00:23:01,681 -Right there! Right there! -Yeah. Yeah. 443 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,015 Can you go back? 444 00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:04,551 Right there! Right there! Right there! 445 00:23:06,085 --> 00:23:07,720 Look at that. Look at -- Look at the front. 446 00:23:07,754 --> 00:23:09,489 What is that? 447 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:11,458 That's suspicious. Like, that's not rock. 448 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,099 Yes! Yes! 449 00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:22,134 Narrator: At the end of their search area, 450 00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:25,438 the team has uncovered an enormous third anomaly, 451 00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:29,141 resting at a depth of nearly 150 feet. 452 00:23:29,175 --> 00:23:31,177 We have a hit. 453 00:23:34,514 --> 00:23:35,915 Can we tell how big it rises from the seafloor? 454 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:41,454 That's massive. 455 00:23:41,488 --> 00:23:43,490 So 150 feet, 160 feet... 456 00:23:43,523 --> 00:23:45,057 -Yeah, most likely. 457 00:23:46,125 --> 00:23:47,827 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No doubt. 458 00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:52,098 Holy 459 00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:53,866 Kennedy: After completing our search, 460 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,569 we found three anomalies that are standing out. 461 00:23:56,603 --> 00:23:58,638 Now I have to identify what they are. 462 00:23:58,671 --> 00:24:01,808 That is me getting in the water and putting eyes on them, 463 00:24:01,841 --> 00:24:04,744 and hopefully uncover evidence that the Nazis were moving -- 464 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:06,713 or could have the capability of moving -- 465 00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,247 heavy water in and out of Narvik. 466 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,916 Now we got to get in the water. 467 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:18,057 Baer: This is from the sonar. 468 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:20,560 That's clearly a man-made object. 469 00:24:20,593 --> 00:24:23,530 It looks like a boat to me. I think this is incredible. 470 00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:26,232 While Tim lines up this mission in Norway, 471 00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:28,701 let's focus on the southern route. 472 00:24:28,735 --> 00:24:30,870 Narrator: With the investigation into Hitler's potential 473 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:33,172 northern escape route in Norway, 474 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,107 Bob and Nada turn their attention 475 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:36,743 to the southern escape route 476 00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:38,745 in the border region of Tyrol, 477 00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:40,647 where a declassified document 478 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,783 points to an organization set up to help fleeing Nazis, 479 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:47,787 including the architect of the Holocaust, Adolf Eichmann. 480 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,590 I think we've established that the Brenner Pass 481 00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:54,260 was a funnel for Nazis out of the Third Reich. 482 00:24:54,293 --> 00:24:56,863 We've got a smuggler, very credible. 483 00:24:56,896 --> 00:24:59,599 My question is, is there a possibility 484 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:02,068 they could have gotten Adolf Hitler across here? 485 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:04,036 You're not gonna take the chance 486 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:07,139 of using an ordinary smuggler with Adolf Hitler 487 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:09,108 simply for the fact he could be recognized. 488 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:10,943 Bakos: Right, exactly. 489 00:25:10,977 --> 00:25:14,146 Can we find proof of a high 490 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,248 We need to get more information on this smuggling network 491 00:25:16,282 --> 00:25:18,050 and see if we can find out how it functions. 492 00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:23,923 This is from the U.S. Department of State. 493 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:26,092 "On the Brenner Pass route, the first stop 494 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:28,561 on the underground railroad is at a castle 495 00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:31,130 where the director is an agent of the SS task force 496 00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:34,000 who was responsible to Kaltenbrunner and Himmler. 497 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:37,704 This castle is believed to be the 'Schloss Labers.'" 498 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,338 There it is. It's in black and white. 499 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:42,041 It's an underground railroad. 500 00:25:42,074 --> 00:25:44,243 We're talking about the SS. 501 00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:47,680 This is much more than an individual smuggler. 502 00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:50,650 Kaltenbrunner and Himmler were devoted 503 00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:53,152 to the survival of Adolf Hitler. 504 00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:56,188 They have an organization, and they've got a castle. 505 00:25:56,222 --> 00:25:58,758 I think we're onto the beginning of something really big here. 506 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,226 Kaltenbrunner and Himmler 507 00:26:00,259 --> 00:26:02,862 were the most important people in the SS -- 508 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:05,064 the personal guard of Adolf Hitler. 509 00:26:05,097 --> 00:26:08,134 These were the guys ordered to keep Hitler alive. 510 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,837 The only group that's gonna get Hitler out is the SS, 511 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:12,805 period, end of story. 512 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,975 Could this castle have been a safe house for high-level Nazis 513 00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:18,277 transferring through the Brenner Pass, 514 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:19,979 and was this SS task force 515 00:26:20,012 --> 00:26:22,915 being used to smuggle Hitler out of Germany? 516 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:28,087 ** 517 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,059 ** 518 00:26:33,092 --> 00:26:35,227 Simpson: We're moving up into the hills, 519 00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:38,197 ideal location to see the rest of town, commanding view. 520 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:41,033 Whoa! Look. Whoa. 521 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:43,335 That must be it. 522 00:26:43,369 --> 00:26:46,773 Narrator: Along Hitler's potential southern escape route, 523 00:26:46,806 --> 00:26:49,676 Mike and James land on the Italian side 524 00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:51,310 of the Tyrol border region. 525 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,849 Simpson: The La Vista Report outlines hard intelligence 526 00:26:56,883 --> 00:27:00,186 that an SS task force was operating out of a castle 527 00:27:00,219 --> 00:27:02,154 here in the Tyrol region. 528 00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:04,991 Could this be a key site on this escape route -- 529 00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,794 this ratline -- for Adolf Hitler? 530 00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,028 That's what we need to know. 531 00:27:09,061 --> 00:27:10,730 Stapf: Hello. 532 00:27:10,763 --> 00:27:13,165 Narrator: The team makes contact with Jeorg Stapf, 533 00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:15,868 whose family has owned Castle Schloss Labers 534 00:27:15,902 --> 00:27:18,337 and has been running it as a hotel for generations. 535 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:20,707 What was going on in this place? 536 00:27:25,778 --> 00:27:27,814 Okay. 537 00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:34,420 They took over entirely? 538 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,292 So what do you think it was about this castle 539 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,261 that made it attractive to the Nazis? 540 00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:55,374 Who is Schwend? 541 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:07,854 That's a pretty big network. 542 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:08,821 -Yeah. -Yes. 543 00:28:10,957 --> 00:28:13,860 Simpson: Jeorg was clear that this was a castle occupied by the SS, 544 00:28:13,893 --> 00:28:15,862 Adolf Hitler's personal bodyguards, 545 00:28:15,895 --> 00:28:17,964 and, additionally, the SS man in charge here 546 00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:19,732 went by the name of Schwend. 547 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:21,133 That's clearly the commander 548 00:28:21,167 --> 00:28:23,469 of the task force mentioned in the document. 549 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:27,439 The fact that this location had such a large SS footprint here 550 00:28:27,473 --> 00:28:30,242 tells me they were up to something very important. 551 00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,987 Simpson: Brigadefuehrer. Is that like a brigadier general? 552 00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:42,521 Exactly, and a hauptsturmfuehrer 553 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,356 is the equivalent of a captain. 554 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,292 So this is, basically, they kept their roster 555 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:47,960 of where everybody was? That's right. 556 00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:49,095 So zimmer -- that's "room". 557 00:28:49,128 --> 00:28:50,830 That's the rooms they occupied. 558 00:28:50,863 --> 00:28:52,231 Yeah, okay, and this is the number of the room? 559 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:54,200 That's right. 560 00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,869 Why isn't anyone allocated to room 18? 561 00:29:02,809 --> 00:29:04,210 The fact that he says Schwend designated that 562 00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:05,845 as an off-limits room 563 00:29:05,878 --> 00:29:08,414 and didn't write anything down next to it, 564 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:10,516 that gets my interest right away. Yeah. 565 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:14,253 The fact that room 18 remains a mystery makes one wonder, 566 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,089 was that where the high-value targets were housed? 567 00:29:17,123 --> 00:29:20,392 At one point, could it even have housed Adolf Hitler himself? 568 00:29:22,028 --> 00:29:24,296 -Gosh, look at this. -Huh. 569 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:28,067 ** 570 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,436 -This is the same furniture. -Yes, yes. 571 00:29:30,469 --> 00:29:33,105 And this is very much like it would have been in 1945? 572 00:29:33,139 --> 00:29:34,206 That's right. 573 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,108 And can we go out here? Sure. 574 00:29:40,847 --> 00:29:42,982 Holland: It's an amazing view. 575 00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:44,817 Simpson: My first impression of room 18 576 00:29:44,851 --> 00:29:47,353 is that this is the ideal command suite. 577 00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:50,890 It's situated on the top floor far from the entrance 578 00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:52,358 with a balcony and a window 579 00:29:52,391 --> 00:29:55,061 that provide almost 360-degree view 580 00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:56,562 of the surrounding area. 581 00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:59,098 This castle has everything that Adolf Hitler 582 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,033 would need in a safe house. 583 00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:02,501 It's strategically located, 584 00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:04,871 it's opulent for its time period, 585 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:09,141 and he would be surrounded by fiercely loyal SS agents. 586 00:30:09,175 --> 00:30:11,277 Holland: At the end of the war, where was Schwend? 587 00:30:15,614 --> 00:30:16,883 What was he doing? 588 00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:21,854 Counterfeit money? 589 00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:24,857 That's incredible. 590 00:30:24,891 --> 00:30:27,093 But what was he doing with the counterfeit pounds? 591 00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:39,338 So, they hid it with the intention of coming back for it. Yes. 592 00:30:39,371 --> 00:30:41,373 This was the dead drop for the ratline. 593 00:30:41,407 --> 00:30:45,277 A dead drop is a place that you, basically, hide something 594 00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:47,246 and then you have a map worked out 595 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,881 or you have reference points worked out, 596 00:30:48,915 --> 00:30:51,083 so I can hide something in a certain location, 597 00:30:51,117 --> 00:30:53,119 and then I can communicate it to you. 598 00:30:53,152 --> 00:30:55,922 So all these dead drops could have been set up specifically 599 00:30:55,955 --> 00:30:57,556 for the escaping Nazis. 600 00:30:57,589 --> 00:30:59,491 A clear picture is emerging, here, isn't it? 601 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:02,294 Schwend suddenly becomes operations hub 602 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:05,531 of disseminating all this counterfeit money. 603 00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:09,101 If you want a system that can help Nazis postwar 604 00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:11,537 get out of here and away to freedom, 605 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:13,239 this is about as good as it gets. 606 00:31:13,272 --> 00:31:15,141 Simpson: From everything we've seen so far, 607 00:31:15,174 --> 00:31:18,310 this escape route was a coordinated effort. 608 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:20,346 Finances, safe houses, 609 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,215 a 30-man SS security force guarding the castle -- 610 00:31:23,249 --> 00:31:24,583 it's perfect. 611 00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:26,585 This place has all the indications 612 00:31:26,618 --> 00:31:29,355 that it could have been a stopping point on the ratline 613 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,323 for very high-level Nazis 614 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:33,625 and possibly even Adolf Hitler himself. 615 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,335 This is a complex tech dive 616 00:31:43,369 --> 00:31:45,137 at a depth that, if we make mistakes, 617 00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:47,173 people are gonna get hurt. 618 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:51,010 Narrator: Along Hitler's potential northern escape route in Norway, 619 00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:55,347 Tim Kennedy is investigating a declassified U.S. Army file 620 00:31:55,381 --> 00:31:57,316 that claims the Nazis could have been running 621 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:59,251 a clandestine operation 622 00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:02,721 to move heavy water out of the Arctic port of Narvik. 623 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:06,125 Priority-first is diver safety. 624 00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:08,427 Narrator: Searching for evidence of infrastructure 625 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,363 that could have been used to transport heavy water, 626 00:32:11,397 --> 00:32:15,167 Tim and an expert SCUBA team prepare to dive on an area 627 00:32:15,201 --> 00:32:16,668 they scanned with sonar. 628 00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:20,539 We need to treat every single phase of this dive 629 00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:22,174 with complete professionalism. 630 00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:24,710 We can't make any mistakes. This is serious. 631 00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:27,113 We're in the Arctic Circle. 632 00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:29,415 This is one of the most unforgiving bodies of water to dive in. 633 00:32:29,448 --> 00:32:32,618 Technical diving is an unforgiving profession. 634 00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:33,986 You have to be precise. 635 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,454 The body temperature, 636 00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:36,755 the mixture of gases that you're breathing -- 637 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:39,125 all of these are vital. 638 00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:42,161 This perhaps is the most dangerous thing that we have done. 639 00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:46,198 Narrator: The team has identified three underwater anomalies 640 00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:48,634 at the bottom of a deep-water fjord 641 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:54,273 located at 30, 60, and 150 feet below the surface. 642 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:56,375 Everybody good? Yeah. 643 00:32:56,408 --> 00:32:57,776 All right. Let's do it. 644 00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:04,450 The goal is finding evidence that the Nazis were moving 645 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:06,418 heavy water in and out of Narvik. 646 00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:09,055 We're gonna go into the water so we can go down and identify 647 00:33:09,088 --> 00:33:12,191 exactly what each of these anomalies are. 648 00:33:12,224 --> 00:33:15,161 Narrator: As the team travels to the site of their first target, 649 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:17,263 they put on pressurized dry suits 650 00:33:17,296 --> 00:33:19,631 designed to maintain their core temperature 651 00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:22,368 and prepare a specialized mixture of gases 652 00:33:22,401 --> 00:33:24,536 to help regulate the forces on their lungs. 653 00:33:35,281 --> 00:33:36,682 Kennedy: Of our three anomalies, 654 00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:39,185 what we're gonna dive on first was selected 655 00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:42,221 because it's in a depth that's easier to access. 656 00:33:42,254 --> 00:33:43,789 We don't know exactly what it is, 657 00:33:43,822 --> 00:33:47,626 but what we could see on the sonar looked very promising. 658 00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:50,262 So we have a buoy right over the anomaly. Yeah. 659 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:51,830 We'll disembark right here 660 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:54,233 and just start a search pattern at the bottom. 661 00:33:54,266 --> 00:33:56,835 Narrator: In order to locate the first anomaly, 662 00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,705 Tim and marine surveyor Frank Anderson 663 00:33:59,738 --> 00:34:02,308 will execute a circular search pattern, 664 00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:04,476 branching out farther on every pass 665 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:07,179 to ensure they cover the entire target area. 666 00:34:07,213 --> 00:34:10,082 Okay, let's do it. 667 00:34:10,116 --> 00:34:19,391 ** 668 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:29,135 ** 669 00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:07,306 Roger that. 670 00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:22,554 Roger that. All you see is rock. 671 00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:27,326 Kennedy: It was a punch to the stomach. 672 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,495 It's clear there's nothing man-made. 673 00:35:29,528 --> 00:35:31,630 We need to move on to target number two. 674 00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:35,467 Narrator: Tim and Frank head to the second anomaly, 675 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:38,670 located 60 feet beneath the surface. 676 00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,639 Due to the depth of their target, 677 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:43,442 they'll descend along a weighted mooring line -- 678 00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:46,178 a guide rope, which runs vertically down from their boat 679 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:47,646 to the ocean floor 680 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,448 and will prevent them from getting lost 681 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,250 in the pitch-black waters below. 682 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:58,657 Kennedy: Target two is not easy to access. It's deep. 683 00:35:58,690 --> 00:36:01,227 This is kind of the limits of recreational diving, 684 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:04,496 but we have to find that object. 685 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,901 Whatever is in this water 686 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:11,870 could be infrastructure, could be proof 687 00:36:11,903 --> 00:36:14,740 of how they were moving heavy water out of Norway. 688 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:05,851 ** 689 00:38:05,884 --> 00:38:09,521 Narrator: Along Hitler's potential northern escape route, 690 00:38:09,555 --> 00:38:13,825 Tim Kennedy is investigating a declassified U.S. Army file 691 00:38:13,859 --> 00:38:15,727 that claims the Nazis could have been running 692 00:38:15,761 --> 00:38:17,563 a clandestine operation 693 00:38:17,596 --> 00:38:20,966 to move heavy water out of the Norwegian port of Narvik. 694 00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:33,845 Roger that. 695 00:38:33,879 --> 00:38:35,747 Tim and an expert dive team 696 00:38:35,781 --> 00:38:39,451 have uncovered a seaplane while diving on an anomaly 697 00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:42,354 they identified with sonar at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. 698 00:38:42,388 --> 00:38:47,092 ** 699 00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:49,861 That's a discovery right there. 700 00:38:49,895 --> 00:38:51,563 Did you see any cargo? 701 00:38:55,967 --> 00:38:57,969 You couldn't put a lot of cargo on that plane. 702 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,772 Even with two propellers, and they were small, 703 00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:03,842 that fuselage, there's not enough room to put anything. 704 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:05,744 Kennedy: The plane's small. 705 00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:08,079 It's not something that you could move heavy water with. 706 00:39:08,113 --> 00:39:10,416 It doesn't have the load capacity 707 00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:13,118 to bring some barrels aboard and take off. 708 00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:14,586 I don't know what the seaplane is, 709 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,054 and I don't know why it's here. 710 00:39:16,087 --> 00:39:18,557 What I do know is, we have to keep looking, 711 00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:22,928 which brings us to a complicated, difficult target. 712 00:39:22,961 --> 00:39:27,399 Narrator: The team prepares for its most challenging dive. 713 00:39:27,433 --> 00:39:31,903 Their final target rests more than 150 feet below the surface, 714 00:39:31,937 --> 00:39:34,406 sitting on the ocean floor at a depth 715 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,008 where extreme water pressure and freezing temperatures 716 00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:40,712 can combine for life-threatening conditions. 717 00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:42,614 Kennedy: I've been diving for over 20 years. 718 00:39:42,648 --> 00:39:44,883 I have 1,000 dives under my belt. 719 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:46,985 This is something that I am not taking lightly. 720 00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,555 One mistake, and we could be dead. 721 00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:52,591 The deeper you go, the more pressure there is. 722 00:39:52,624 --> 00:39:54,593 If you ascend too quickly, 723 00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:57,429 those gases are gonna expand and can kill you. 724 00:39:57,463 --> 00:40:00,499 We have to be perfect every minute of this dive plan. 725 00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:05,504 ** 726 00:40:05,537 --> 00:40:09,174 Narrator: Tim and Frank execute a controlled descent, 727 00:40:09,207 --> 00:40:12,143 holding for several minutes at decompression stops 728 00:40:12,177 --> 00:40:14,713 every 10 feet along their mooring line 729 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:18,183 to allow their lungs to adjust to the crushing water pressure. 730 00:42:18,236 --> 00:42:20,806 Narrator: Next time on "Hunting Hitler"... 731 00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:22,641 Simpson: If the Nazis buried anything here, 732 00:42:22,674 --> 00:42:24,743 this is the way we're gonna find it. 733 00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:27,846 Look at that. That's incredible. 734 00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:31,249 Seebohm: The priest at the time would give aid to Nazis 735 00:42:31,282 --> 00:42:33,018 fleeing through the area. 736 00:42:33,051 --> 00:42:36,154 There is documentation that they were re-baptized. 737 00:42:36,187 --> 00:42:37,989 Oh, my God! 738 00:42:38,023 --> 00:42:41,259 If Austria is where the Nazis shed their skin, 739 00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:43,962 then South Tyrol is where they were born again 740 00:42:43,995 --> 00:42:46,732 and assumed a new identity. 741 00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:50,802 The Red Cross was actually producing legitimate documents 742 00:42:50,836 --> 00:42:52,838 with false identities. 743 00:42:52,871 --> 00:42:55,006 The documents were something that was secure, 744 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,274 so if they had those documents, 745 00:42:56,307 --> 00:42:58,276 they could easily get out of Rome. 746 00:42:58,309 --> 00:43:01,780 Man: Once they got a real passport, they're home free. 747 00:43:01,813 --> 00:43:03,248 This is the last piece of the puzzle, then. 748 00:43:03,281 --> 00:43:05,016 Holland: All roads lead to Rome, 749 00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:05,884 and then from there to Latin America. 59367

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