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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,178 male narrator: Previously on "Hunting Hitler"... 2 00:00:04,221 --> 00:00:08,878 Perón is overthrown in '55. The page is turned in Argentina. 3 00:00:08,921 --> 00:00:11,359 Hitler would have been obligated to get up and move. 4 00:00:11,402 --> 00:00:14,579 From Bariloche, Chile is right over the mountain range. 5 00:00:16,886 --> 00:00:19,062 The story started coming out that your father 6 00:00:19,106 --> 00:00:20,411 was Martin Bormann. 7 00:00:22,370 --> 00:00:24,676 If Bormann is here, Hitler is not very far away. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,462 Four men came to her house, and they said 9 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:29,812 they came from Colonia Dignidad. 10 00:00:29,855 --> 00:00:33,207 Colonia Dignidad, a German community 11 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:35,557 led by a Nazi corporal. But they're not gonna want to 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,820 talk about their Nazi past or any part of it. 13 00:00:37,863 --> 00:00:40,823 They've changed their name to Villa Baviera. 14 00:00:43,695 --> 00:00:45,436 Whoa, look at this. 15 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:46,872 Last time I saw a fence like that, 16 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:49,353 I was on a military base. Oh, my God. 17 00:00:49,397 --> 00:00:50,528 Guard tower. 18 00:00:50,572 --> 00:00:52,008 This road's locked down. 19 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:54,706 This is the only way in and the only way out. 20 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:58,362 Welcome to the utopian German colony of Villa Baviera. 21 00:01:03,454 --> 00:01:08,807 1955, Perón is overthrown, Argentina is no longer 22 00:01:08,851 --> 00:01:13,203 a safe haven for Adolf Hitler or any senior Nazi, 23 00:01:13,247 --> 00:01:14,900 so they have to go somewhere. 24 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:17,468 All roads lead to Chile. 25 00:01:17,512 --> 00:01:20,776 narrator: CIA veteran Bob Baer and war crimes investigator 26 00:01:20,819 --> 00:01:23,822 Dr. John Cencich review the investigation 27 00:01:23,866 --> 00:01:26,173 in Chile, where they have uncovered 28 00:01:26,216 --> 00:01:29,132 Colonia Dignidad, 29 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:31,482 a secretive German community 30 00:01:31,526 --> 00:01:34,529 that, according to a declassified CIA file, 31 00:01:34,572 --> 00:01:37,575 operated as a cult and could have provided refuge 32 00:01:37,619 --> 00:01:39,099 for Nazi war criminals. 33 00:01:40,665 --> 00:01:44,713 If Hitler was in Chile, his only bet 34 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:48,630 is Colonia Dignidad. 35 00:01:48,673 --> 00:01:51,285 You have a remote part of Chile. 36 00:01:51,328 --> 00:01:54,723 A known Nazi sets this place up, 37 00:01:54,766 --> 00:01:57,856 a community where Germans can go 38 00:01:57,900 --> 00:01:59,728 and within those walls of that community 39 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:02,165 remain anonymous. 40 00:02:02,209 --> 00:02:04,776 narrator: In 1959, Paul Schafer, 41 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:07,910 a former Nazi corporal, fled Germany and, along with 42 00:02:07,953 --> 00:02:10,826 300 German followers, eventually set up 43 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:13,785 Colonia Dignidad deep in the mountains of Chile. 44 00:02:13,829 --> 00:02:16,397 For over three decades, Colonia Dignidad 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,486 operated officially as a religious 46 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:21,358 and agricultural commune, but their true activities 47 00:02:21,402 --> 00:02:23,795 were unknown, as access to the compound 48 00:02:23,839 --> 00:02:25,493 was highly restricted. 49 00:02:25,536 --> 00:02:28,191 In 2005, Schafer was arrested 50 00:02:28,235 --> 00:02:31,281 on 25 counts of child abuse, and eventually died 51 00:02:31,325 --> 00:02:33,849 in police custody. After his death, 52 00:02:33,892 --> 00:02:35,981 colony members took over the compound 53 00:02:36,025 --> 00:02:38,375 and changed its name to Villa Baviera, 54 00:02:38,419 --> 00:02:41,248 where residents still live, as well as offer tourists 55 00:02:41,291 --> 00:02:43,380 an authentic German experience in Chile. 56 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:48,342 You look at the defenses, location, 57 00:02:48,385 --> 00:02:52,084 something was going on at Colonia Dignidad other than 58 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:54,217 a religious community. 59 00:02:54,261 --> 00:02:57,786 The deeper we get into this, the more mysterious it becomes. 60 00:02:57,829 --> 00:03:01,398 John, you look at this, the barbed wire fences. 61 00:03:01,442 --> 00:03:04,662 This is like a military camp. 62 00:03:04,706 --> 00:03:07,056 I worked on bases like this. 63 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:08,927 This is a protected area. 64 00:03:08,971 --> 00:03:10,494 Absolutely. 65 00:03:10,538 --> 00:03:13,367 This picture was taken by Tim and Mike. 66 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:15,369 They're calling it the Villa Baviera, 67 00:03:15,412 --> 00:03:18,198 The restaurants, the hotel, the special events, 68 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:22,680 the outdoor activities-- this image here is not aligned 69 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:25,117 with what we know. They have a darker past. 70 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:26,510 They're trying to erase history. 71 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:29,078 It's gone down the memory hole. 72 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:31,254 We need to find out what's really going on. 73 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:35,127 What evidence is behind these walls that would allow us 74 00:03:35,171 --> 00:03:38,392 to have a better picture of activities 75 00:03:38,435 --> 00:03:40,263 that were designed to support 76 00:03:40,307 --> 00:03:43,919 fleeing, high-ranking Nazi war criminals? 77 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:45,486 It's clear to me that they're not gonna 78 00:03:45,529 --> 00:03:47,749 be able to go in there and ask direct questions. 79 00:03:47,792 --> 00:03:49,838 To pull this off, the team needs to go 80 00:03:49,881 --> 00:03:53,233 in an undercover capacity, and while doing that, 81 00:03:53,276 --> 00:03:57,149 ferret out what really went on behind these walls decades ago. 82 00:03:57,193 --> 00:03:59,195 It can be done. 83 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:02,242 I'm confident Tim and Mike are the people for that task. 84 00:04:02,285 --> 00:04:04,331 Let's get into Colonia Dignidad. 85 00:04:16,517 --> 00:04:18,475 Look at this. 86 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,043 Guard tower. Oh, my God. 87 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:22,436 There's no reason to have that there 88 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:24,786 except to cover the road. 89 00:04:24,829 --> 00:04:27,136 If you put a machine gun up there, 90 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,007 this road's locked down. 91 00:04:29,051 --> 00:04:31,793 narrator: U.S. Army Special Forces Tim Kennedy, 92 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:34,274 reconnaissance expert Mike Simpson, 93 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,320 and their translator America prepare to enter the compound 94 00:04:37,364 --> 00:04:38,452 of Villa Baviera. 95 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:43,326 We came here to find evidence that Adolf Hitler could have 96 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:45,372 come to Colonia Dignidad. 97 00:04:45,415 --> 00:04:47,374 We didn't expect to find a tourist attraction. 98 00:04:47,417 --> 00:04:50,072 So we're operating on the ruse that we are there 99 00:04:50,115 --> 00:04:52,422 for the purpose of making a travel show 100 00:04:52,466 --> 00:04:55,120 about beautiful places in Chile to visit, 101 00:04:55,164 --> 00:04:58,167 and this new tourist attraction, Villa Baviera. 102 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:01,823 narrator: The team makes contact 103 00:05:01,866 --> 00:05:04,260 with a representative from Villa Baviera, 104 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:06,480 who has arranged for a guided tour of the site. 105 00:05:06,523 --> 00:05:07,829 Mucho gusto. Tim. 106 00:05:14,139 --> 00:05:15,402 Our first time here. Can you tell us 107 00:05:15,445 --> 00:05:16,359 a little bit about it? 108 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:26,369 What are you gonna show us first? 109 00:05:26,413 --> 00:05:27,631 - Lead the way. - Yeah. 110 00:05:27,675 --> 00:05:28,632 Bienvenido. 111 00:05:34,986 --> 00:05:38,120 - This is the restaurant. - Wow. 112 00:05:38,163 --> 00:05:42,037 They open every day, and it's full. 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,867 - The food's that good. - Yes, yes. Very good. 114 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:47,912 The image that they're putting out to the general public 115 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:51,263 is completely different than the declassified information 116 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:52,787 that we have. 117 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:56,399 It literally feels like revisionist history. 118 00:05:56,443 --> 00:06:00,185 - Sausage masters. - Ooh, look at that. 119 00:06:00,229 --> 00:06:01,361 So, I mean, everything comes from here? 120 00:06:01,404 --> 00:06:02,840 - Yeah, yes. - Your vegetables 121 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:04,364 come from here, your cheese comes from here, 122 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:06,148 your sausages come from here. - Yes, yes. 123 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:07,410 Now that we've seen these pictures of the sausage, 124 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:09,238 I wanna see where the sausage comes from. 125 00:06:09,281 --> 00:06:13,111 It's very easy to see how someone could be swept away 126 00:06:13,155 --> 00:06:17,551 in all of this, never knowing exactly what happened here. 127 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:25,167 How long have you guys been making sausages here? 128 00:06:33,218 --> 00:06:35,482 What's your favorite part about living here? 129 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:44,360 He would say the freedom, the nature, the safety. 130 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:47,189 It's very safe here? 131 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,846 It was not always like that. 132 00:06:55,371 --> 00:06:57,286 Maybe you didn't come here for those stories. 133 00:06:57,329 --> 00:06:59,201 - Ooh. - You know? 134 00:06:59,244 --> 00:07:02,247 You know, when you have a butcher that says 135 00:07:02,291 --> 00:07:05,642 Colonia Dignidad is way safer now, 136 00:07:05,686 --> 00:07:07,818 that bad things used to happen here, 137 00:07:07,862 --> 00:07:09,472 those are the clues that are telling us 138 00:07:09,516 --> 00:07:12,344 that we're not getting the full truth right now. 139 00:07:15,522 --> 00:07:17,437 This was Paul Schafer's room. 140 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:25,096 We'll respect everything. 141 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:27,316 We're here for the tour. What else is there to see? 142 00:07:31,668 --> 00:07:32,539 - The bunkers. - Sí. 143 00:07:32,582 --> 00:07:34,497 Oh, yeah. 144 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:39,067 So in a communal society, why do you need Fort Knox here? 145 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:40,068 What was in here? 146 00:07:44,202 --> 00:07:48,119 There is a massive safe built into the center of the bunker. 147 00:07:48,163 --> 00:07:50,470 Just another red flag, just another thing that is 148 00:07:50,513 --> 00:07:53,821 standing up saying something's not adding up. 149 00:07:53,864 --> 00:07:55,518 Wow. 150 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:58,478 Wow, I wasn't expecting that. 151 00:07:58,521 --> 00:08:00,218 So what exactly are we looking at here? 152 00:08:03,352 --> 00:08:07,661 Every room in the place had a small set of speakers. 153 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:10,185 Like an intercom? 154 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,969 - Sí, sí. - Yes. 155 00:08:12,013 --> 00:08:14,058 So they had extensive infrastructure 156 00:08:14,102 --> 00:08:16,757 for communication. - Sí. 157 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,411 The technology for the time period that we're talking about 158 00:08:19,455 --> 00:08:22,676 was state-of-the-art. There were thousands 159 00:08:22,719 --> 00:08:25,766 of communication nodes. That tells me this entire 160 00:08:25,809 --> 00:08:28,769 bunker complex underground was equipped 161 00:08:28,812 --> 00:08:30,466 with two-way communications. 162 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:33,556 That's military grade right there. 163 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,167 All right, where to next? 164 00:08:36,211 --> 00:08:37,647 I've seen what they wanted to show me, 165 00:08:37,691 --> 00:08:40,563 but I've picked up on so much more. 166 00:08:40,607 --> 00:08:44,567 This was built with a military perspective. 167 00:08:44,611 --> 00:08:47,483 These are indications that this religious, 168 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:50,747 agricultural community was something else entirely. 169 00:08:50,791 --> 00:08:53,663 We cannot stop until we find the truth 170 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:54,882 about Colonia Dignidad. 171 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:07,764 narrator: In the capital of Chile, Tim Kennedy, 172 00:09:07,808 --> 00:09:11,768 Gerrard Williams, Mike Simpson, and translator America 173 00:09:11,812 --> 00:09:13,335 have uncovered a man by the name 174 00:09:13,378 --> 00:09:14,771 of Winfred Hemple... 175 00:09:14,815 --> 00:09:16,599 - Hola. - Hola. 176 00:09:16,643 --> 00:09:19,646 narrator: Who was once a resident of Colonia Dignidad. 177 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:22,170 Sit down, please. 178 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:24,433 Winfred Hemple lived in Colonia Dignidad. 179 00:09:24,476 --> 00:09:26,957 He was born there. He was raised there. 180 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:29,656 There is no one better to tell us exactly 181 00:09:29,699 --> 00:09:31,701 what went on behind those fences. 182 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:34,008 Thank you for meeting with us. Could you start by telling us 183 00:09:34,051 --> 00:09:36,184 a little bit about Colonia Dignidad? 184 00:10:06,693 --> 00:10:12,481 They couldn't even think about going out of the colony 185 00:10:12,524 --> 00:10:17,312 because there were a group of men that had guns and dogs, 186 00:10:17,355 --> 00:10:20,358 and they were the ones who would recover the prisoners 187 00:10:20,402 --> 00:10:22,665 who were trying to escape. 188 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:24,406 What would happen to that person? 189 00:10:47,429 --> 00:10:50,388 You're in prison without even knowing you're in prison. 190 00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:52,564 Everything Schafer did was all about fear. 191 00:10:52,608 --> 00:10:56,481 It is the most powerful tool you can wield psychologically. 192 00:10:56,525 --> 00:10:58,527 When you've got this level of control, 193 00:10:58,570 --> 00:11:01,965 people will do anything you want. 194 00:11:02,009 --> 00:11:04,359 You could have marched a high-ranking Nazi 195 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:06,491 right into the compound, ordering everybody 196 00:11:06,535 --> 00:11:08,363 to turn their backs and face away. 197 00:11:08,406 --> 00:11:09,756 Nobody would've seen them. 198 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:12,933 - Is Schafer openly Nazi? - Yes. 199 00:11:12,976 --> 00:11:15,109 There were people who were openly Nazis. 200 00:11:15,152 --> 00:11:16,632 - In his group? - Yes. 201 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,155 - In the--in the... - In the Schafer group? 202 00:11:18,199 --> 00:11:19,069 Yes, yes. 203 00:11:26,163 --> 00:11:28,992 - Walter Rauff? - Yes. 204 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:31,952 - Who's Walter Rauff? - Walter Rauff is 205 00:11:31,995 --> 00:11:34,694 a disgusting creature who invents the mobile gas van 206 00:11:34,737 --> 00:11:36,043 for murdering Jews on the road. 207 00:11:38,393 --> 00:11:41,701 Were they senior in the colony's organization? 208 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:52,450 The colony has a hierarchy. 209 00:11:52,494 --> 00:11:55,149 The first level was Schafer and his associates, 210 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:57,804 then there were the colonists. 211 00:11:57,847 --> 00:12:00,807 Do you think it would be possible for Paul Schafer 212 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:03,505 or his inner circle to hide people 213 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:06,290 inside of Colonia Dignidad without people knowing? 214 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:12,949 They knew they couldn't enter some areas of the colony, 215 00:12:12,993 --> 00:12:16,257 but they always saw people from the army, 216 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:18,259 military people around the colony. 217 00:12:18,302 --> 00:12:21,001 So even amongst the colonists, there were areas 218 00:12:21,044 --> 00:12:22,306 that you do not go here? 219 00:12:24,134 --> 00:12:26,354 Colonia Dignidad is segregated, 220 00:12:26,397 --> 00:12:28,791 and each of these compartmentalizations 221 00:12:28,835 --> 00:12:30,924 prohibited access from one colony member 222 00:12:30,967 --> 00:12:32,795 to any other part of the camp. 223 00:12:32,839 --> 00:12:35,798 This is ideal to move high-value targets. 224 00:12:35,842 --> 00:12:37,800 If Adolf Hitler wanted to fly and land there 225 00:12:37,844 --> 00:12:39,759 and gain access to all the other areas 226 00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:42,587 that even the people living on the colony didn't have 227 00:12:42,631 --> 00:12:45,634 access to, this is the place. 228 00:12:45,677 --> 00:12:50,247 We went to Colonia Dignidad, and we got the formal tour. 229 00:12:50,291 --> 00:12:55,078 Is there more there for us if we were to go back? 230 00:12:55,122 --> 00:12:56,993 Sí. 231 00:12:57,037 --> 00:13:00,605 What they show is this bucolic face 232 00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:03,086 that Schafer cultivated. 233 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:06,002 We're not finished investigating. 234 00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:09,701 What I'm asking is tough, but I wanna know: 235 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:12,313 will you go back there with us? 236 00:13:27,197 --> 00:13:29,025 Whatever was happening there, they didn't want 237 00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:30,679 the world to know about. 238 00:13:30,722 --> 00:13:32,768 I've met a lot of heroic and courageous men, 239 00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:35,379 and you are at the top of that list. 240 00:13:35,423 --> 00:13:37,904 We are seeing the true face of Colonia Dignidad. 241 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:39,993 This is evil, this is brutality, 242 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:41,733 this is bigger than we ever thought. 243 00:13:53,397 --> 00:13:55,269 I think there was a cult there, 244 00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:57,010 but it's not the only thing that was there. 245 00:13:57,053 --> 00:14:00,883 I think the cult was the front for something else. 246 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:02,754 narrator: Bob and John review the findings 247 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:05,453 from the field team in Chile. 248 00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:08,151 Winfred was born there. All he knew 249 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:10,414 about the outside world was which way 250 00:14:10,458 --> 00:14:13,287 was north, south, east, and west. 251 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:14,636 That says it all. 252 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,465 Completely secluded from the world. 253 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,294 And he was talking about the whole place 254 00:14:20,337 --> 00:14:23,558 being compartmented. Civilians living on one side, 255 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:26,082 then you have the secret part of the base, 256 00:14:26,126 --> 00:14:28,911 which is run for military purposes. 257 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:31,871 Keep the civilians out. Keep it separated. 258 00:14:31,914 --> 00:14:33,481 Keep the security high. 259 00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:39,269 I haven't seen communications facilities this complicated 260 00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:41,793 on American military bases I've been on. 261 00:14:41,837 --> 00:14:46,320 They were doing something there, and that's the question is what. 262 00:14:46,363 --> 00:14:49,671 According to Winfred, there's a secretive aspect 263 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:52,326 that's perhaps more nefarious, 264 00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:56,591 and that is the presence of Nazis. 265 00:14:56,634 --> 00:15:00,856 They met in areas that were completely off limits 266 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,989 for everybody else in the compound. 267 00:15:03,032 --> 00:15:06,166 The way Colonia Dignidad operates reminds me 268 00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:08,298 of North Korea. You simply do not see 269 00:15:08,342 --> 00:15:11,519 North Koreans leaving and talking to people 270 00:15:11,562 --> 00:15:14,609 on the outside. Absolute total control. 271 00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:16,350 But they were out to do bad things. 272 00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:17,873 That's why they needed to keep secrets. 273 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,223 Who lived in that compound? 274 00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:22,791 I mean who was so important to marshal 275 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:26,142 that kind of resources in total secrecy? 276 00:15:26,186 --> 00:15:29,319 Let me show you something here. 277 00:15:29,363 --> 00:15:32,409 Yeah, this is it right here. It's a now-declassified 278 00:15:32,453 --> 00:15:35,891 German Parliament document, and it goes on to talk about 279 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:39,329 the arrests in Chile of eight more members 280 00:15:39,373 --> 00:15:42,376 of the leadership of Colonia Dignidad, 281 00:15:42,419 --> 00:15:45,945 including an ex-member of Adolf Hitler's 282 00:15:45,988 --> 00:15:49,949 personal body guard formation, Kurt Schnellenkamp. 283 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:55,998 His bodyguard? This is huge. 284 00:15:56,042 --> 00:16:01,003 Not only was he the one-time bodyguard of Adolf Hitler, 285 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:05,529 but a member of the leadership of Colonia Dignidad. 286 00:16:05,573 --> 00:16:07,662 That's an amazing connection. 287 00:16:07,705 --> 00:16:09,707 If Adolf Hitler's body guard 288 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:11,796 was in Colonia Dignidad, who else was 289 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,973 in Colonia Dignidad? 290 00:16:14,016 --> 00:16:17,019 Who was he protecting? What was he doing there? 291 00:16:17,063 --> 00:16:21,981 This is not just a colony of Germans with Nazi sympathies. 292 00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:23,721 Right now in my mind, it's not a question 293 00:16:23,765 --> 00:16:26,898 if Nazis were there, it's what were they doing there? 294 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:30,076 And it could be as simple as protecting Adolf Hitler 295 00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:33,209 or planning for the Fourth Reich. 296 00:16:33,253 --> 00:16:36,647 I think what we need to do now is go to the militarized parts 297 00:16:36,691 --> 00:16:40,086 of this compound base and figure out 298 00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:42,305 could it have housed Adolf Hitler? 299 00:16:42,349 --> 00:16:45,526 I mean, was there a facility that he could have gone 300 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:50,009 and stayed at securely and his identity protected? 301 00:16:50,052 --> 00:16:53,534 No matter how we look at this, this is not going to be 302 00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:55,101 an easy mission. 303 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:57,103 With or without their cooperation, 304 00:16:57,146 --> 00:16:58,626 we will get to the truth. 305 00:17:08,201 --> 00:17:11,247 - That's Winfred right there. - Yep. 306 00:17:11,291 --> 00:17:13,162 narrator: Tim Kennedy and Mike Simpson 307 00:17:13,206 --> 00:17:15,295 reconnect with Winfred Hemple, 308 00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:17,775 a former resident of Colonia Dignidad... 309 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:19,168 - Morning. - Morning. 310 00:17:19,212 --> 00:17:21,649 narrator: Now known as Villa Baviera. 311 00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:23,999 Winfred has agreed to help the team try and get 312 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,742 access to the hidden areas of the compound that, 313 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:30,397 according to a declassified German document, 314 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,399 was a refuge for Adolf Hitler's 315 00:17:32,442 --> 00:17:35,445 personal body guard after the war. 316 00:17:35,489 --> 00:17:37,012 We have to be able to get more access. 317 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:37,969 Mm-hmm. 318 00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:42,844 They're just gonna show you what they want you to see. 319 00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:44,715 Right. 320 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:46,282 I need to see where the bad things happened. 321 00:17:46,326 --> 00:17:47,805 Mm. 322 00:17:47,849 --> 00:17:50,112 You know, the things that they're hiding. 323 00:17:50,156 --> 00:17:51,548 Yeah. How do we get in there? 324 00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:57,163 There's a semi-public road. Trucks go in that way, 325 00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,860 so they don't have such a strict control. 326 00:17:58,903 --> 00:18:00,122 So they can't completely control it. 327 00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:01,819 Exactly. 328 00:18:01,863 --> 00:18:04,605 - So there's another way in? - Yes, yes. 329 00:18:04,648 --> 00:18:06,128 We can't do this without Winfred. 330 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,435 He lived there. He understands the culture. 331 00:18:08,478 --> 00:18:10,698 Winfred can see through the smoke. 332 00:18:10,741 --> 00:18:12,352 That's exactly what we need to do 333 00:18:12,395 --> 00:18:14,093 to get the truth from Colonia Dignidad. 334 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,885 narrator: Winfred leads the team 335 00:18:23,928 --> 00:18:27,323 to a military installation located five miles south 336 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,238 of the center of the colony. 337 00:18:36,898 --> 00:18:39,335 Wow. 338 00:18:39,379 --> 00:18:40,989 You're on top of the world here. 339 00:18:41,032 --> 00:18:43,165 Golly. 340 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:45,863 We're about just shy of 3,000 feet up, 341 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,170 off the valley floor. 342 00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:50,433 I've been in special forces for 15 years. 343 00:18:50,477 --> 00:18:52,957 That tower is better than some of the things that I had 344 00:18:53,001 --> 00:18:55,743 on my own fire bases in Afghanistan and Iraq. 345 00:18:55,786 --> 00:18:58,746 It's massive. It is tactically positioned 346 00:18:58,789 --> 00:19:02,184 on top of the tallest point in the entire valley. 347 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:06,841 We have to know what you can see from there. 348 00:19:06,884 --> 00:19:10,845 Check this door out. 349 00:19:10,888 --> 00:19:13,587 There's a little bit of a gap between the top of the fence 350 00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:15,154 and the barbed wire in the back. 351 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:16,242 There it's pushed down a little bit. 352 00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:17,243 Yeah. 353 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:47,098 I'm gonna start the ascent. 354 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,498 He's roughly as high as a six-story building right now. 355 00:20:09,686 --> 00:20:11,210 Roger that. 356 00:20:11,253 --> 00:20:13,473 Standing right here, I'm able to see 357 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:16,171 absolutely everything. 358 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,608 I can see the Andes Mountains east of us. 359 00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:20,262 To the west of us, on a clear day, 360 00:20:20,306 --> 00:20:22,308 I can probably even see the ocean. 361 00:20:22,351 --> 00:20:25,789 I can see the valley floor, which is 2,500 feet below me. 362 00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:31,099 And here to the south, I can see all of Colonia Dignidad. 363 00:20:31,142 --> 00:20:33,449 This is unbelievable. 364 00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:37,148 Nothing could go in or out of Colonia Dignidad 365 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:40,369 for 100 miles without somebody seeing it from here. 366 00:20:40,413 --> 00:20:44,547 They would have had an hour, if not more, of early warning. 367 00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:47,028 This is the first sign that this was strategic, 368 00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:49,770 this was planned and executed and built for a reason, 369 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:53,382 and that reason resonates military. 370 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:55,558 Anything that's gonna come from any direction, 371 00:20:55,602 --> 00:20:58,082 they will have early warning from that watch tower 372 00:20:58,126 --> 00:21:01,303 to be able to to get anyone they're hiding out safely 373 00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:03,392 without anyone knowing. 374 00:21:07,831 --> 00:21:09,659 Go in here, please. 375 00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:11,661 narrator: Winfred leads the team toward the center 376 00:21:11,705 --> 00:21:13,837 of the compound and the perimeter fence 377 00:21:13,881 --> 00:21:15,839 that surrounds the entire property. 378 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:28,809 Here, there's something you should see. 379 00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:29,723 The hell is that? 380 00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,300 So there's an access ladder on this side. 381 00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:46,435 All right, so there's the panel box here. 382 00:21:46,479 --> 00:21:48,829 There's probably hundreds of wires running into it. 383 00:21:48,872 --> 00:21:52,267 Oh, yeah. 384 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:56,184 These wires aren't-- this isn't power. 385 00:21:56,227 --> 00:21:58,055 Where was all this running though? 386 00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:01,885 Tim, look at this. 387 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:08,414 Wires coming out here. 388 00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:10,851 Mike, there's way more over here. 389 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:13,419 This one connects to chain link fence. 390 00:22:13,462 --> 00:22:15,377 This one connects to the barbed wire. 391 00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:16,770 That's a different level-- it connects to 392 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:18,424 a different strand of barbed wire. 393 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:21,470 Yeah, there's tons over here, Tim. 394 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:24,386 Oh, man. 395 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:28,259 This is wired into a connector, going directly into 396 00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:30,392 what holds this piece of wire on. 397 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:34,309 So somebody pushes on this, puts an electrical impulse 398 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,832 through this. This goes to 399 00:22:35,876 --> 00:22:37,573 a command somewhere, and a light on 400 00:22:37,617 --> 00:22:40,707 a switch board lights up. Tells you what number the post. 401 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:46,321 Somebody really did not want people climbing this fence. 402 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:49,150 Tim. 403 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:55,417 Mike! 404 00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:58,942 - Yeah? - You gotta see this. 405 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:02,598 The hell is that? 406 00:23:02,642 --> 00:23:05,732 - It's Styrofoam. - What? 407 00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:07,473 It's painted like a rock. 408 00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:11,215 You have moss on here, a little screen in front of it. 409 00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:14,262 This is like Hollywood-level design. 410 00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:21,487 This looks to me like an old-fashioned electric eye 411 00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:25,186 infrared sensor. Basically an infrared trip wire, 412 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,884 so anything coming through here is gonna trip it. 413 00:23:27,928 --> 00:23:29,451 We have concentric lines of defense. 414 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,410 FiFiyou had your primary. 415 00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:34,021 The observation post is essentially early warning. 416 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:36,589 On the second one, we have the outside perimeter fence, 417 00:23:36,632 --> 00:23:39,200 with thousands of sensors running into it. 418 00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:43,726 You know this is an indication of thorough security. 419 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,989 The only reason you're doing things like this 420 00:23:46,033 --> 00:23:48,514 is if you are protecting the people at the highest level, 421 00:23:48,557 --> 00:23:50,559 the highest. 422 00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:06,227 All right, so help us out here. 423 00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:07,620 narrator: Deep in the mountains of Chile, 424 00:24:07,663 --> 00:24:09,926 Tim Kennedy, Mike Simpson, 425 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,189 and an ex-resident of Colonia Dignidad, 426 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:15,105 Winfred Hemple, are investigating 427 00:24:15,149 --> 00:24:17,760 the former grounds of this secret German community 428 00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:21,198 with reported ties to Nazis on the run. 429 00:24:21,242 --> 00:24:23,897 They have already uncovered multiple military-style 430 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:26,987 defenses surrounding the compound. 431 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:30,556 This is layer after layer with perfect control. 432 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,514 You have the fences, you have the observation, 433 00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:35,125 you have the communication, you have everything you need. 434 00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:38,302 Question is how do you hide and protect Hitler? 435 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,957 If Adolf Hitler is being harbored and protected 436 00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:44,352 in Colonia Dignidad, you're gonna have hidden houses, 437 00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:47,703 safe houses, hideouts, with the infrastructure 438 00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:50,663 to be able to support that. 439 00:24:50,706 --> 00:24:53,840 Is there a place anywhere in Colonia Dignidad 440 00:24:53,883 --> 00:24:56,277 where, if I brought a very important person in, 441 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,496 I could hide them completely? 442 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:05,852 There was structure underground? 443 00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:23,870 To your knowledge, were any of these some place 444 00:25:23,913 --> 00:25:26,394 that somebody could live for an extended period of time? 445 00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:28,396 Sí, sí. 446 00:25:28,439 --> 00:25:30,659 There first-- there's a warehouse, 447 00:25:30,703 --> 00:25:32,922 and there's a bunker. 448 00:25:32,966 --> 00:25:34,707 Can we get inside any of the bunkers? 449 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,143 Can we get inside any of the tunnels? 450 00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:39,755 We gotta go there. We have to see them. 451 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,017 Let's move. 452 00:25:51,637 --> 00:25:53,464 narrator: To minimize their exposure, 453 00:25:53,508 --> 00:25:56,555 the team heads out on foot to explore the tunnel 454 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:59,470 and bunker system in the heart of the compound. 455 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:01,037 It's like a cloak-and-dagger mission. 456 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,865 We're trying to move surreptitiously 457 00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:05,215 through Colonia Dignidad, but there are eyes everywhere. 458 00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:07,174 Every move counts. We have to be careful. 459 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:08,523 We have to stay under the radar. 460 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,612 We make a mistake, we get caught. 461 00:26:10,656 --> 00:26:12,483 We get caught, we can't get to the truth. 462 00:26:34,897 --> 00:26:37,421 - Mike, you gotta see this. - I'm on my way. 463 00:26:42,035 --> 00:26:43,645 Oh, my God. 464 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:51,610 Look at this. 465 00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:54,090 Hundreds, if not thousands, of sensors. 466 00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:57,006 There would've been an alarm board here. 467 00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:58,355 And this is just one layer. 468 00:26:58,399 --> 00:27:02,751 This is just that one fence ring. 469 00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:06,320 This is, like, a permanent duty station, you know. 470 00:27:06,363 --> 00:27:10,150 There's massive, vast communication systems in place. 471 00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:12,674 Most importantly, there's just line after line, 472 00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:15,590 cord after cord, all going to different sensors 473 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,680 throughout that region of Colonia Dignidad. 474 00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,988 If this is a military compound that's protecting Adolf Hitler, 475 00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:24,120 you would expect to find security like this. 476 00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:28,951 narrator: The team makes their way through 477 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:32,085 a complex network of tunnels, extending outwards 478 00:27:32,128 --> 00:27:34,000 from the command base. 479 00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:40,180 Got a bunch of machinery in here. 480 00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:47,666 This is a compressed air tank. 481 00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:50,843 These are hydraulic pistons. There's the fluid, 482 00:27:50,886 --> 00:27:56,109 and then we got matching hinged pieces on the end. 483 00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:59,765 Hey, look at this. 484 00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:03,943 This is a movable piece here. 485 00:28:03,986 --> 00:28:05,727 I think--you know what? 486 00:28:16,607 --> 00:28:18,218 narrator: The team has discovered 487 00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:19,872 what they believe to be a hydraulic-powered 488 00:28:19,915 --> 00:28:21,874 barrier system. When deployed, 489 00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:24,572 two high-powered hydraulic arms could have raised 490 00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:26,748 the barrier upwards, preventing the movement 491 00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:28,663 of personnel and vehicles. 492 00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:33,059 Yeah. 493 00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:38,368 This immediately reminded me of White House security. 494 00:28:38,412 --> 00:28:40,719 It appears that they are really trying to protect 495 00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:44,113 a very, very important person. They could lock down the gate 496 00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:47,551 completely without ever exposing themselves in any fashion. 497 00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:52,774 All right, we got the end of line here. 498 00:28:52,818 --> 00:28:54,776 All right. 499 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:59,738 Holy [bleep]. We have a massive room. 500 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:04,220 - What the [bleep]? - Yeah. 501 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:05,744 There's some in here I didn't expect. 502 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:09,704 Soundproofing. 503 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,880 Yeah, they're soundproofing this room. 504 00:29:11,924 --> 00:29:13,577 Why? 505 00:29:13,621 --> 00:29:14,491 You know what this is? 506 00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:26,068 A 12x12 reinforced concrete cement bunker 507 00:29:26,112 --> 00:29:29,332 in the center of the compound is the perfect place 508 00:29:29,376 --> 00:29:31,378 for Adolf Hitler to be protected, 509 00:29:31,421 --> 00:29:33,119 and he has the perfect place to run to 510 00:29:33,162 --> 00:29:35,121 when things get too hot for him. 511 00:29:35,164 --> 00:29:36,949 If you wanted a safe house, if you wanted a hideout, 512 00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:39,255 this fits the bill. 513 00:29:39,299 --> 00:29:41,692 narrator: Winfred leads the team to the warehouse 514 00:29:41,736 --> 00:29:45,566 located in the epicenter of the compound, just 500 yards 515 00:29:45,609 --> 00:29:47,742 from the entrance to the bunker system. 516 00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:06,805 When you lived here, what were you told this was? 517 00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:14,377 What would happen to you if you came 518 00:30:14,421 --> 00:30:15,726 and tried to look here? 519 00:30:20,122 --> 00:30:21,428 What went on here? 520 00:30:28,696 --> 00:30:31,046 - They built guns? - They built guns. 521 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:33,396 Not where they kept guns. They built guns here? 522 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,313 They used to copy them and then assemble new ones. 523 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:40,447 - Re-fabrication of firearms. - Yeah. 524 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:43,276 This is major. This is like a country 525 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:45,365 within a country where they can do 526 00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:46,757 anything they want. 527 00:31:06,168 --> 00:31:07,300 Yeah, yeah. 528 00:31:18,050 --> 00:31:19,616 It makes my heart race. 529 00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:28,669 - She's the person in charge. - Okay. 530 00:31:28,712 --> 00:31:32,629 And we're allowed to visit just three places. 531 00:31:36,068 --> 00:31:37,634 Are you telling us we have to leave? 532 00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,551 Yes, we have to leave right now. 533 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,510 Okay. 534 00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:47,775 Layers of security: towers, fences, motion sensors, 535 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:50,647 and now you have manufacturing weapons. 536 00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:52,649 They could have been building this Fourth Reich, 537 00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:55,391 armed and supplied, all from one location. 538 00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:57,306 It's terrifying. 539 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,178 You couldn't write a fictional story like this. 540 00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:00,570 Nobody would believe it. 541 00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:10,319 I've been on a lot of military bases 542 00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:12,756 all over the world. This type of security 543 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,716 is more consistent with the security measures 544 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,633 that are implemented relative to a military operation 545 00:32:19,676 --> 00:32:22,288 than it is protecting a cult. 546 00:32:22,331 --> 00:32:24,246 narrator: Bob and John review the findings 547 00:32:24,290 --> 00:32:27,597 from their investigation of Colonia Dignidad in Chile, 548 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:30,035 where a declassified German document places 549 00:32:30,078 --> 00:32:32,472 Adolf Hitler's personal body guard 550 00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:36,867 hiding out at this secretive compound after World War II. 551 00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:39,479 At the end of the day, some serious people 552 00:32:39,522 --> 00:32:41,916 put this facility together, and they did it 553 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,180 with a purpose and a mission. 554 00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,835 We have right here the watch tower. 555 00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:51,143 This is tactically placed. You can see everything 556 00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:54,973 in the whole area. It's the first line of defense. 557 00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:58,889 Second line of defense, you've got infrared trips. 558 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:02,415 You've got wired fence. This security, 559 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:04,069 if this goes back to the '60s, 560 00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:06,027 matches any military base security 561 00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:07,550 in the United States. 562 00:33:07,594 --> 00:33:10,075 And what you have here at the core 563 00:33:10,118 --> 00:33:11,772 are tunnels and bunkers, 564 00:33:11,815 --> 00:33:14,688 reinforced communications equipment. 565 00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:17,691 A good place to hide out of the center of things. 566 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:21,260 And then you have a weapons warehouse. 567 00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:25,525 You have to have a military force to recreate 568 00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:29,964 the Fourth Reich. Here, you could create weapons. 569 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,533 In the center is the most important piece: the weapons. 570 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,666 Warehouse, development, we don't know what's in there, 571 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:39,365 but it's not Misiones, where, you know, fine, 572 00:33:39,408 --> 00:33:41,062 you can go hide out in the jungle. 573 00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:43,543 This is something much bigger than Misiones. 574 00:33:43,586 --> 00:33:46,154 We cannot exclude the possibility 575 00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:48,852 that Hitler made it to Colonia Dignidad, 576 00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:50,463 and started planning the Fourth Reich. 577 00:33:50,506 --> 00:33:52,160 You just can't. 578 00:33:52,204 --> 00:33:54,989 But this weapons facility is still a mystery, 579 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,599 what they were making there. 580 00:33:56,643 --> 00:33:58,819 Eliminate the possibility this is just 581 00:33:58,862 --> 00:34:01,039 conventional weapons being made here. 582 00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:04,825 They were not there making single-action rifles 583 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:07,088 to invade the United States. It just doesn't make sense. 584 00:34:07,132 --> 00:34:08,655 I agree. 585 00:34:08,698 --> 00:34:10,787 What would they need conventional weapons for? 586 00:34:10,831 --> 00:34:12,659 It doesn't fit. 587 00:34:12,702 --> 00:34:15,966 If this base was being used for the Fourth Reich, 588 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,621 we need to know what kind of weapons 589 00:34:18,665 --> 00:34:20,319 are being made in this warehouse, 590 00:34:20,362 --> 00:34:22,147 and that will tell us what this whole place 591 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:23,844 is really about. 592 00:34:23,887 --> 00:34:26,325 If we can't get inside, at the very least, 593 00:34:26,368 --> 00:34:30,546 we need a human source. We need an informant to tell us 594 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:32,853 who has actual first-hand knowledge 595 00:34:32,896 --> 00:34:36,248 of what was going on on the inside of that building. 596 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:51,132 Gracias. 597 00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:53,830 So, Gael, you can go in first 'cause you speak Spanish. 598 00:34:53,874 --> 00:34:55,093 You can introduce us. - Okay. 599 00:34:55,136 --> 00:34:57,007 And that'll help me out. 600 00:34:57,051 --> 00:34:58,705 narrator: In hopes of determining the nature 601 00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:00,185 of reported weapons manufacturing 602 00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:01,229 at Colonia Dignidad... 603 00:35:04,319 --> 00:35:05,712 Señor Fernandez, Gerrard. 604 00:35:05,755 --> 00:35:07,583 Gerrard Williams, nice to meet you. 605 00:35:07,627 --> 00:35:10,325 narrator: Gerrard Williams and his translator Gael 606 00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:13,763 meet with Hernan Fernandez, a lawyer who represents 607 00:35:13,807 --> 00:35:15,896 former residents of Colonia Dignidad 608 00:35:15,939 --> 00:35:18,159 in a 20-year-long civil case 609 00:35:18,203 --> 00:35:20,161 against the colony's leadership. 610 00:35:20,205 --> 00:35:24,122 I know that you have a case against Colonia Dignidad. 611 00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,559 What can you tell me about the colony making guns? 612 00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:34,697 We know for a fact that Colonia Dignidad had 613 00:35:34,741 --> 00:35:36,960 the weapon manufacturer there. 614 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:38,614 How many guns? What sort of guns? 615 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:43,967 Big amount of weapons of war, ready-to-be-used weapons of war. 616 00:35:44,011 --> 00:35:45,708 Ready to be sold. 617 00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:47,057 Rifles and sub-machine guns? 618 00:35:48,798 --> 00:35:50,322 We know that Colonia Dignidad 619 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,193 effectively was a Nazi Community. 620 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:55,065 Now we have weapons manufacturing going on there. 621 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:57,372 Big question here: why? 622 00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:04,771 There was also chemical weapons, 623 00:36:04,814 --> 00:36:08,296 like the sarin gas. - Sarin gas? 624 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:09,863 Sí. 625 00:36:11,778 --> 00:36:15,738 Sarin in its gas form is a very, very nasty chemical. 626 00:36:15,782 --> 00:36:17,914 If it gets into the hands of the wrong people, 627 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:20,178 a lot of people are gonna die. 628 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:23,006 How did they make sarin gas in the middle of Chile? 629 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:26,575 They had the resources to both get national chemists, 630 00:36:26,619 --> 00:36:29,187 but also to bring people from abroad. 631 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:30,971 It's just horrible beyond belief. 632 00:36:33,103 --> 00:36:35,541 Amazingly, we're talking about one of the nastiest 633 00:36:35,584 --> 00:36:37,717 chemical weapons the world has ever heard of. 634 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,240 We don't know exactly what they originally 635 00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:41,111 planned to do, but this looks like 636 00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:43,113 they're planning a Germany that can exist 637 00:36:43,157 --> 00:36:44,680 in the 20th century. 638 00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:57,737 I think the team is actually much closer 639 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:01,915 to resolving the question as to what was happening 640 00:37:01,958 --> 00:37:03,786 in this warehouse. 641 00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:05,919 narrator: Bob and John review the findings from Chile, 642 00:37:05,962 --> 00:37:07,877 where they have uncovered testimony 643 00:37:07,921 --> 00:37:10,750 regarding the possible nature of weapons manufacturing 644 00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:12,665 at Colonia Dignidad. 645 00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:15,189 Members of the team have interviewed a lawyer, 646 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:19,280 and he is alleging that they were manufacturing 647 00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:22,544 weapons of war. But beyond that, 648 00:37:22,588 --> 00:37:26,635 he is alleging that they were manufacturing 649 00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:30,422 chemical weapons, specifically sarin. 650 00:37:33,294 --> 00:37:36,079 Sarin is a battlefield biochemical weapon. 651 00:37:36,123 --> 00:37:37,820 It's a weapon of mass destruction. 652 00:37:37,864 --> 00:37:40,867 If you have a system to disperse sarin, 653 00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:43,522 you could take out a major American city. 654 00:37:43,565 --> 00:37:45,654 The casualties would be catastrophic. 655 00:37:48,004 --> 00:37:51,138 Could this warehouse have been a facility 656 00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:52,966 for the production of sarin? 657 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:56,317 Absolutely you could make sarin here and store it. 658 00:37:56,361 --> 00:37:59,364 I was in Syria when they were making sarin gas, 659 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:01,322 and they just had a couple scientists 660 00:38:01,366 --> 00:38:03,716 trained abroad, like the Nazis would be, 661 00:38:03,759 --> 00:38:06,545 and took not particularly sophisticated labs 662 00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:10,026 that were easily concealed and built these things. 663 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:11,985 It is hideously lethal. 664 00:38:12,028 --> 00:38:16,337 We knew that Hitler, whether he lived or died, 665 00:38:16,381 --> 00:38:19,340 had this vision for the continuation 666 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:22,038 of his empire in Colonia Dignidad. 667 00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:24,214 The leads pan out. 668 00:38:24,258 --> 00:38:26,216 Exactly, look, you've got sarin. 669 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,436 You've got weapons manufacturing. 670 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,439 You've got Nazis, and, for all we know, Adolf Hitler. 671 00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:33,049 This isn't the Fourth Reich in theory. 672 00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:35,791 This is the Fourth Reich in act. 673 00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:38,011 I never thought we'd get this far. 674 00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:41,231 Earlier in the investigation, we uncovered that Hitler 675 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:44,017 could have escaped, but now, with this leg 676 00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:45,845 of the investigation, we've uncovered 677 00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,456 so, so much more. 678 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,894 I found an exit into a new tunnel. 679 00:38:51,938 --> 00:38:53,287 Are you kidding me? 680 00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:55,245 Now Hitler's got another way out. 681 00:38:55,289 --> 00:38:57,552 This isn't Saddam Hussein hiding in 682 00:38:57,596 --> 00:38:59,946 a spider hole underground. 683 00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:04,733 This was well-funded, well-planned, well in advance. 684 00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:09,738 Any wealthy Nazi officials met to plan the formation of... 685 00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:15,135 Hitler had, at his disposal, a massive network 686 00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:17,224 with thousands of loyal Nazis. 687 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:20,140 All could have put together his escape plan 688 00:39:20,183 --> 00:39:21,968 and sustained him for years. 689 00:39:22,011 --> 00:39:23,926 Like Martin Bormann... 690 00:39:23,970 --> 00:39:27,060 People were really scared to see him because there were 691 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:30,411 a lot of deaths happening around him. 692 00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:35,460 Before the end of the war, Bormann had set up a plan 693 00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:36,417 for Hitler's escape. 694 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:39,594 Adolf Eichmann. 695 00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:40,552 Why was he here? 696 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:45,861 We got an escape tunnel. That's what this is. 697 00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:47,863 In addition to that, he would have had 698 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:51,301 the highest levels of government support. 699 00:39:51,345 --> 00:39:52,955 Yeah, we've seen it from Spain... 700 00:40:00,006 --> 00:40:01,877 As well as in Argentina. 701 00:40:01,921 --> 00:40:03,966 Perón essentially was giving Dr. Richter 702 00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:05,141 anything he wanted moneywise. 703 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:09,798 We're not just talking about governments, 704 00:40:09,842 --> 00:40:12,018 we're talking about heads of government, 705 00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:14,760 dictators in South America who prepared 706 00:40:14,803 --> 00:40:18,851 to protect Adolf Hitler. And once he was on the run, 707 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:21,593 he wouldn't have had just safe houses to hide out in. 708 00:40:21,636 --> 00:40:24,117 He would have had military compounds. 709 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,249 That is huge. Why is this in the middle 710 00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:27,294 of the jungle? 711 00:40:27,337 --> 00:40:29,122 Like Misiones... 712 00:40:29,165 --> 00:40:32,734 This feels like military barracks. 713 00:40:32,778 --> 00:40:34,301 Bariloche... 714 00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:36,085 Somebody sat back with a map and said, 715 00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:39,045 "I'm gonna put Adolf Hitler here, a watch tower here, 716 00:40:39,088 --> 00:40:40,873 and I'm gonna put a bunker here." 717 00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:44,354 This is an interconnected military compound. 718 00:40:44,398 --> 00:40:49,272 And now in Chile, we have a very large military compound. 719 00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:53,059 In the center of the compound is the perfect place 720 00:40:53,102 --> 00:40:55,409 for Adolf Hitler to be protected. 721 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:58,499 Military bases in South America 722 00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:03,809 that were controlled by Nazis. The most terrifying thing for me 723 00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:08,944 is that if Hitler had escaped, he didn't intend to give up. 724 00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,860 He intended to attack the United States. 725 00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:15,560 They had a plan using a weapon with a kill radius 726 00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:18,301 which would've taken out Manhattan. 727 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:21,957 Not only did he intend to attack the United States, 728 00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:24,960 he had the means to do major damage. 729 00:41:25,004 --> 00:41:30,096 Secret munitions factories in Buenos Aires, 730 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:33,316 a nuclear program in the mountains of Argentina. 731 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,058 This is to prevent radiation from escaping. 732 00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:37,625 That's how close they were. 733 00:41:37,669 --> 00:41:39,366 Headquarters in Tangier, Morocco, 734 00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:41,281 for the Nazi Fourth Reich. 735 00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:44,023 This has all the markings of a military command center. 736 00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:47,287 And Colonia Dignidad, where they could have used 737 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:51,987 weapons of mass destruction tucked away in Chile. 738 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,121 I started this out as a complete skeptic, 739 00:41:55,164 --> 00:41:58,820 that this was impossible, Nazis going to South America 740 00:41:58,864 --> 00:42:01,693 and setting up the Fourth Reich. 741 00:42:01,736 --> 00:42:04,609 But every piece of information we keep digging up 742 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:06,524 points the same way. 743 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:09,048 And if there was ever a case to be made 744 00:42:09,091 --> 00:42:13,269 that the Fourth Reich actually turned operational, 745 00:42:13,313 --> 00:42:15,010 it's Colonia Dignidad. 746 00:42:15,054 --> 00:42:18,666 What we found is something much more chilling 747 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:22,235 than Hitler's mere escape. The fact that you had people 748 00:42:22,278 --> 00:42:26,108 committed to murdering us, that had the ability to make 749 00:42:26,152 --> 00:42:28,633 weapons of mass destruction, and we were sort of 750 00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:30,243 clueless what they were up to. 751 00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:33,072 I think it's pretty damn scary. 752 00:42:33,115 --> 00:42:35,857 Hitler was not a fugitive. 753 00:42:35,901 --> 00:42:40,427 He was a man that intended to change history. 754 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:43,212 He was not gonna give up, he was not gonna retire, 755 00:42:43,256 --> 00:42:45,127 he was not gonna go into permanent hiding. 756 00:42:47,782 --> 00:42:49,567 He had the elements... 757 00:42:54,136 --> 00:42:56,835 And the will. 758 00:42:56,878 --> 00:42:59,751 He had big plans. 759 00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:01,579 And the scariest part: 760 00:43:01,622 --> 00:43:04,451 these people do not give up. 59432

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