All language subtitles for Hunting Hitler - S02E03 - Eyewitness Accounts

male narrator: Previously,
on "Hunting Hitler"...

If Hitler's fleeing Berlin,
he had an intermediate stop.

Denmark makes
a lot of sense.

It's not like the Allies are
landing on the beaches there.

Until May 5th, Denmark was
still a Nazi stronghold.

These are people
that can keep a secret.

These are people you can trust.

You saw Hitler and several
comrades in May 1945.

Where did you see them?

In Tonder.

In total clandestine
conditions,

you could land here.

But if these trees did exist,

you're certainly not going
to get a big airplane in here.

That discounts it completely.

What if these trees
weren't here?

I'm going to take a sample
of this tree

and make a determination

on how long this tree
has been standing here.

These results could be
what makes or breaks the case.

There's no possible way

that somebody could get across
this body of water alive.

This was a Nazi compound.

It was protecting one person
who was very important.

Within 50 miles,
there are several small towns.

We need names.

Goering?

Goering is a founding member
of the Nazi party,

and in the event
of Hitler's death,

it was Goering who was
to become fuehrer.

We have to talk to her.

This is sounding to me

closer than we've been to
the truth since we started this.

No question about it.

narrator:
21-year CIA veteran Bob Baer

and war-crimes investigator
Dr. John Cencich

are overseeing
a dual-pronged investigation.

While the European team
investigates

how Hitler could have escaped
from Berlin to Denmark,

the South American team

is investigating whether Hitler
could have eventually reached

a Nazi compound
in the jungles of Argentina.

If I were planning
Hitler's escape,

I would go to Denmark.

narrator: They focus
in on the European leg

of their investigation.

In Tonder, Denmark,

they've uncovered
a secret Nazi air base

at the location
that SS Major Mackensen,

in his declassified
Nuremberg testimony,

placed Hitler arriving
from Germany.

All the arrows
are pointing to Tonder.

Now, the issue
when they got there

and they looked
at this, Lenny,

was there were trees.

You couldn't land.

We also have the results

of the tree-core analysis.

We had the dilemma
about the trees.

Lenny said,
"Let's take a look

and see when these trees
were actually planted."

As you can see here,
that's just a little over 1950,

after the Second World War.

So any aircraft
could land there.

- And take off.
- And take off.

First, we have the Major
saying he saw Hitler,

and then the airport had
the complete infrastructure

that would have supported
fleeing Nazis.

I mean, it's all lining up
very nicely

into a consistent story.

All right, you get to Tonder,
and the question is,

what is the next place
that Hitler would go?

What sort of evidence
do we have?

Where could he have gone?

Well, the only thing
that we can do right now

is to go deeper
into the statements

by the SS Major during
the Nuremberg trials.

See what we come up with.

15 March, 1948, question--

"Hitler was at the airport?"

"Yes, Hitler was."

"You were all Germans?"

"Leon Degrelle is
the only foreigner."

Who's Leon Degrelle?

I don't know.
Don't have a clue.

Let's dig in here and see
what we've got on Mr. Degrelle.

Oh, here we go.

"Mr. Degrelle actively
collaborated with the Nazis.

"During a ceremony to honor him
for wartime actions,

"Mr. Degrelle said Hitler
told him,

"'If I had a son,

I would have
liked him to be like you.'"

If you're on the run, there's
very few people you would trust.

And clearly, he looked
at Degrelle as family.

Therefore,
if Degrelle was with Hitler

in Denmark,

this is not
just a coincidence.

Let's see exactly what else
we might have on Degrelle.

Oh, yeah.

In May 1945,

Mr. Degrelle managed to escape
in an airplane

and landed
in San Sebastian, Spain.

Well, I mean,
that completely fits.

I mean, look, the date--
May '45--

he escapes in an airplane
from Denmark

and goes to Spain.

Earlier
in the investigation,

we concluded that one
of the most likely places

that Hitler
would have gone from Germany

would have been Spain.

You begin to see a pattern.

The obvious question is,
did he take Hitler with him

on the same plane?

So I think we need to get
the team into San Sebastian.

Is there something
that we can find on the ground

that corroborates
that Degrelle

landed in an airplane
in 1945?

Let's do it.

We've been told
that Leon Degrelle

flies to San Sebastian.

Why does he come here?

Why this little corner
of Spain?

And I guess that's what we need
to try and find out.

narrator: World War II
historian James Holland

lands in the remote
coastal town of San Sebastian

in northern Spain.

He is joined by Mike Simpson,

Special Forces
Reconnaissance expert.

I have a career
that spans three decades,

almost all of it
in special operations.

I've served as
an airborne ranger,

as a Special Forces operator.

In 32 years,
I've hunted drug lords.

I've hunted terrorists.

But this is the villain
to end all villains--

Adolf Hitler himself.

This is the big prize,
and I want to go after it.

narrator: In search of evidence
that Leon Degrelle

could have arrived
in San Sebastian,

the team has been granted
access to Fototeca,

a private archive
of thousands of photos

of the town's political
and cultural life

during the 20th century.

We're really interested
in Leon Degrelle arriving here.

When you're talking about
a remote part of the world,

archives are almost
your first port of call,

because as a historian,
you want to look at documents,

things that happened
absolutely of the moment.

1945.

The first thing I'm looking
for is a plane

that Degrelle came over in,

but I wasn't finding that,
so let's look elsewhere.

Is there any signs
of German influence here

in this neck of the woods?

Very quickly the answer is yes.

Here's some German helmets.

They're Spanish, but
they're wearing German helmets.

This shows that the Germans

have been supplying
the Spanish with equipment.

So I've got
another one here.

The fascist salutes
in the plaza downtown here.

Lots of Nazis.

You know, the dagger and stuff,
that's the feature of the SS.

What really surprises me is,
we're seeing so much evidence

of the Germans being here,

and you can't flip two pages

without seeing a swastika
or a German soldier.

No, no, no.

You know,
if you're an escaping Nazi,

this would be a good place
to come, clearly.

Everything we're seeing says
that there was

a deep-seated Nazi
presence here.

It really has to make
somebody ask,

if this is what we're seeing
in the archives,

how deep did it really run?

You're gonna want
to hear this.

He found someone who was
supposedly an eyewitness

to Degrelle's landing.

Wow.

He lives here in San Sebastian?
- He has his address.

We have a name and address

of an eyewitness
to the Degrelle landing.

With a 70-year-old cold case,

a living eyewitness
is exactly what you want.

It is like hitting
the jackpot.

So it's just here?Okay.

narrator:
James and Mike arrive

at the home
of Jaime Rodriguez Solis,

a rumored eyewitness
to Degrelle's arrival

in May 1945.

- Hi.
- Hello.

- Hello, morning.
- Hi, I'm Mike.

Maya, hello.

- James
- This is James, my colleague.

- How do you do?
- Nice to meet you.

This is my father,
Jaime Rodriguez.

Fascinated to know what it
was like

in this part of the world

once the Second World War
started.

And what about once
the war ended?

Can he remember seeing
any Germans

come to this part
of the world?

People helped them
to hide.

When they passed to Spain,
the Nazis, they had no problems.

And we've heard that there was
a Nazi called Leon Degrelle.

Leon Degrelle.

Yes, he flew it in,
but we don't know where.

He says he remembers.

He went, and he saw it,

and a friend said,
"The plane landed in the beach."

It landed on the beach?

Not on an airfield?

When they arrived,
it was there in the water.

Anyone else come
out of the plane?

He doesn't know.

That he cannot tell you.

He says that the following day,
when he went to the beach,

the plane was not there
anymore.

Really?
Just one day later?

They figured out
that the local authorities

removed it.

But that slightly suggests

they want to get rid
of it quite quickly, doesn't it?

With a story like that,
certainly that's something

that at least some people
would continue to talk about.

Is there anybody
that we might be able to talk to

that can give us
a little bit more information?

He thinks that there's
a family--

Barea family, Ramon Barea--

he may be able to maybe tell you
something more about it.

Our original assumption
was that the plane had landed

at a small airport
here in San Sebastian.

The fact
that it was on a beach,

that kicks it up a notch.

Why did he land
on that beach?

And who else could have been
on that plane?

Could it have been
Hitler himself?

That's what we have to find out.

We've established

there was
a Nazi military compound,

and 50 miles away,
in Misiones,

there was
a German community.

This place
was a Nazi hideout.

narrator: While the team
continues to dig

in San Sebastian, Spain,

Bob and John discuss
the South American leg

of their investigation.

We have found the descendant

of Adolf Hitler's
leadership living there.

narrator: In Argentina,
the team has uncovered evidence

that Adela Goering,

the grandniece
of Herman Goering,

the commander
of the German Air Force

and one of Hitler's
closest associates,

is living just 50 miles

from the Nazi
militarized complex

in the jungles of Misiones.

I mean, I think it's
interesting that his grandniece,

with that name,
doesn't settle in Germany,

but goes off and lives
in Argentina.

The grandniece

of one of the most significant
war criminals

in the history of the world
is in Misiones,

where we have
this militarized Nazi outpost.

We really need
to put this together,

because Herman Goering's
grandniece

is not just there
by happenstance.

If we can sit down and talk
to the grandniece of Goering,

we're in for
some good information.

Who knows what she heard?

I think we're
on the right track here, Bob.

Yep, let's do it.

Every time
that we start talking

to one of these
generational Nazis,

they've grown up in silence,

practicing how to not talk
about these things.

- You think she's scared?
- Yeah, they're all scared.

narrator: U.S. Army
Special Forces Tim Kennedy,

and Coli, a local translator,

arrive at the home
of Adela Goering.

Holy [bleep].

It's no joke.

No, it's not.

Whoa, this just got real.

Could you tell me a little bit
about your family?

Like, how they came
to Argentina?

Walking up to your property,

I couldn't help
but notice the swastika

that was carved
deeply into that tree.

What's the story to that?

Sometimes she'd have words
with the kids,

and in exchange
for those words,

they left a swastika
carved out on the tree

because of her maiden name.

They try and keep
a very low profile.

She used to visit her doctor
under her married name,

but one time the doctor,
who was Jewish,

saw her maiden name,

and he refused
to keep seeing her.

Because of that name,
Adele Goering

is still associated,
whether she likes it or not,

with being a Nazi.

Honestly, I felt kind
of sorry for her.

She's scared of reprisals

for the things
ther family did,

but we have to find out
the truth.

You've lived in Misiones
for a very long time.

Do you have any memory

of any other German families
that had Nazi connections?

There were families

that were connected
to the former Nazi regime,

and also they were
receiving people

who were escaping
from Germany.

Do you remember...

any things
from your childhood,

if your father
or you knew anyone

that was associated
with any high-level Nazis?

The whole town was
talking about it.

They're here
looking for Hitler.

Unbelievable.

It'd be interesting
to be here at low tide

and see how much room
he really would have had.

narrator:
In San Sebastian, Spain,

James Holland and Mike Simpson

are investigating a series
of declassified files

that report
that Leon Degrelle,

a close associate
of Adolf Hitler,

was seen by the Fuehrer's side
in Denmark,

before flying to this
remote Spanish town.

I would not fancy coming
to land on this beach,

I'll tell you.

narrator: They arrive
at La Concha Beach,

where an eyewitness
claims Degrelle landed

in May, 1945.

The first thing that I thought
of when I looked at the bay

is how small it was
from side to side

and how difficult it would be,
especially with the islands,

to navigate an aircraft
in here.

That's what jumped out
at me right away.

- Hello.
- Señor Ramon.

- Nice to meet you.
- Mucho gusto.

narrator: The team makes
contact with Ramon Barea,

whose father was a longtime
resident of San Sebastian.

- Just rewind there a second.
- What exactly did he see?

- Just here?
- Just this point.

- Oh, really?
- Yeah.

Fantastic.

Whoa, look at the damage
on that, Mike.

You can see that one wing's
been ripped off.

One of the engine's has come off
that ripped-off wing.

It's been flipped
completely upside down.

The whole back of the fuselage
of the plane is broken.

And really, you look at that,
and it just seems a miracle

that anyone
could have survived.

Okay.

- Everyone survived?
- Yeah.

In the final days of the war,

Hitler was in very,
very poor health.

Given the evidence
that we've seen of the crash,

had he been on that aircraft,
he would not have survived--

had he been on that aircraft,
which we think now he was not.

So, when Degrelle was done
recuperating, where did he stay?

Even though everyone in town
knew about the crash,

if I were in London
or were in New York

and I was looking
at the newswire,

I would have no knowledge
of it whatsoever?

Nothing.

How was that possible?

All set up.

That's where
we need to go, then.

From the initial reports

and after talking
to our first witness,

it appeared that
San Sebastian might simply be

a random crash site.

But after talking
to the second witness,

and learning a little bit more
about the infrastructure,

about the locals,
and about the area,

it appears that this
is an ideal destination.

And my gut tells me,
even though Adolf Hitler

was not on that aircraft,

that this could be where
Hitler wanted to go all along.

With the fog,
we almost could have missed it.

narrator:
Mike and James arrive

at the rumored Nazi
communication building,

just five miles from the beach

where Leon Degrelle
crash-landed.

Hola, Pablo.
¿Cómo estamos?

narrator:
With the help of Pablo,

a local translator,

they make contact
with Margarita Martin,

the current director
of the site.

- Wow.
- This is absolutely amazing.

- German manufacturer.
- It's still working?

It's still here
and still working.

Right from the start
of World War II,

there were
German troops here?

What equipment of the
communications equipment's here?

Very long distances.
- Okay.

- I'm gonna go up.
- Okay.

narrator:
While James investigates

the ground floor
of the facility,

Mike heads to the roof
to check out the radio tower.

It's an incredible view
from up here.

Wow.

If I were planning
on bringing the Fuehrer here,

a radio antenna
that is on the hilltop

that overlooks
the bay of San Sebastian

would be ideal.

In a matter of moments,

by communicating to the radio
telegraph station downstairs,

that information would have been
sent to any U-boat or plane,

piece of cake.

So what are all these?

- Science, you know?
- In German.

Wow.
Look at this.

1938.
- Sí.

Where did Margarita
find all this?

She found them upstairs
hidden behind a wall.

- Behind a wall?
- Behind a wall.

They had some problems
with the rain,

so, yeah, they had to make
some repairs,

and she found
this secret compartment.

But why were they all
being kept there secret?

To hide the collaboration
with the Germans, obviously.

It was fascinating
to see all this stuff.

The fact that this was
all behind a false wall

poses a question--why?

What are they trying to hide?

Do we know if there were ever
any visitors coming here?

In this visitors book,

we can see
that this observatory

received many visits

from 1928 up to 1937,

and after this,
we don't have anything else.

Everything is in white.

Those blank pages,
they hold a secret there.

- Right.
- Yeah.

As we're discovering,
San Sebastian is a major hub

for the Nazi ratlines

for those trying
to flee to safety.

We know that Leon Degrelle got
here and was spirited away.

The tantalizing prospect is,

who else came here
in the ruins of the Reich?

We have a crashed Nazi
airplane in San Sebastian.

This is evidence.
This was an exfil route.

narrator: Bob and John review
the findings from Spain,

where the team
has uncovered evidence

that Leon Degrelle
crash-landed

in San Sebastian in May 1945,

after being spotted
by Hitler's side days earlier,

as reported in declassified
Nuremberg testimony.

Degrelle had
a serious aircraft accident.

One thing's for sure--
Hitler was not on this aircraft.

As far as I'm concerned,

the investigation
relative to whether or not

Adolf Hitler flew
with Leon Degrelle

out of Denmark
to San Sebastian,

we can put
that theory to bed.

- Yeah.
- But look what Franco did.

He took him in.

He gives him
a Spanish identity

and allows Degrelle
to continue to live there.

Franco felt that
he should be hiding Nazis,

and he didn't care.

He clearly would hide Hitler.

I have no doubt about that,
if Hitler showed up,

and he would have covered up
right and left.

Maybe Degrelle may have been
simply saying,

"Let's see if we can get
an airplane to San Sebastian,

if we can get through
Allied air cover."

It could be
that Degrelle was making

a dry run
for Adolf Hitler,

and Hitler may have used
that same route at a later date.

San Sebastian is a hotbed
of Nazi activity.

War criminals
are fleeing there,

and they had access
to worldwide communication.

It does raise the possibility
that this could have been

a destination point
for Adolf Hitler.

The other team has been able
to interview Adela Goering

in Misiones, Argentina.

narrator:
Bob and John shift their focus

to the South American leg
of their investigation,

where they discovered
a relative of Hermann Goering,

commander
of the Nazi Air Force,

living in Misiones, Argentina.

What she does remember
is being told many years ago

that people
were in the area.

They were looking
for Adolf Hitler

in and around Misiones.

It's amazing.

A couple miles

from the Nazi compound
in Misiones,

there was a hunt for Hitler--
an active hunt for Hitler.

I think that's a huge clue.

This justifies us to continue
the mission in this region.

I agree with you.

I mean, the evidence
is starting to mount.

It's quiet.

Yeah, not a lot of people.

narrator: Investigative
journalist Gerrard Williams

and his translator, Rune,
make their way

through Santo Pipo
in Misiones province.

It's just a couple
of blocks from here,

so it shouldn't be
that long.

Our initial research
uncovered that the town

has a high concentration
of Germans,

and we found evidence
of Nazi activity.

So why would this town,

in the middle
of nowhere, really,

have so many Nazis here?

We have a hell of a lot
of digging to do.

So let's see what he's got.

Hey.
both: Hola.

narrator: A local contact
and journalist, Enrique Medina,

has been digging
through archives for the team,

to try to uncover evidence

of hidden Nazi activities
in the area.

Has he found
anything out?

Okay. He found an article,
really important here, he said.

Can we see it?
- Sí.

He has it here.

Okay, it's written, like,
20 years ago,

and it talks
about a guy, Zajer,

and he worked for a major Nazi
close to Hitler, it says.

- Inner circle.
- Yes, exactly--

in the inner circle
of Hitler, yeah.

A major Nazi here,
in Misiones?

Exactamente,
aquí en Misiones.

So this man--
is he still alive?

He is not alive, the guy,

but the son of him is just
living up here, actually.

¿Dónde está?

Bueno, queda acá justamente
un par de cuadras nada más.

Just two blocks up
here off the route.

Let's go find out
what this guy knows.

Yeah.

It should be the house here.

Excuse me,
I'm looking for Señor Zajer.

- Sí.
- Emilio Zajer?

- That's Emilio Zajer.
- Hi, nice to meet you.

About the presence
of German Nazis here.

Your family,
are they from Misiones?

Ah, his father
was from Germany.

And when did he arrive?

He arrived here in 1940.

Would it be possible?
Do you have some time?

There are many questions
I'd like to ask you.

- Sí.Okay.
- Vamos.

Thank you.
Thank you very much.

What was your father's name?

Was his father
a national socialist?

Did he like the Nazis?

Yeah, he was also a Nazi,
yes, yes.

He always told him that he was
a part of the Hitler Youth.

Emilio, did your father
mention any names of Nazis

that he worked with
or knew in the area?

There was another guy as well,
with the name Edmundo.

He was an old parachute soldier.
- Okay.

Your father, did he
ever mention any senior Nazi

that he may have met?

Bormann?
Bormann?

Martin Bormann.

Martin Bormann, Emilio,
is meant to be dead in Germany.

He dies in 1945
at the Battle of Berlin.

Are you sure your father worked
for Martin Bormann in Argentina?

Martin Bormann is the second
most important man

in the Nazi world.

He's Hitler's number two.

He was the secretary
of the Nazi party

and the man who ran the money.

And he's in Argentina.
This is history-changing.

What exactly did your father do
for Martin Bormann?

He tells that his father
drove Bormann

to San Ignacio at some point,

and then Bormann just
disappeared into the jungle.

San Ignacio is the closest
civilized place

to the Nazi military complex
that we found in the jungle.

It doesn't feel like
a coincidence to me.

Incredible story, but it fits
with so much else

that we've begun
to learn again here.

We came to Argentina
hunting Hitler.

What we've now discovered
is that his deputy,

the most important man
after Hitler

in the whole Nazi party,

Martin Bormann, was here.

Well, that's
incredible information.

We have a gentleman
in Argentina

who is telling the team

that his father
was Martin Bormann's driver.

That's a hell
of a statement.

narrator: Bob and John
review the findings

from Misiones, Argentina,

where they have uncovered
testimony that Martin Bormann

was living there
after World War II.

Look what we have here--
a document dated May 14, 1948.

Bormann was considered
to have secured absolute control

of the machinery
of the Nazi party

by the end of 1944.

"This mole-like creature
was insatiable

"in his appetite
for reality of power.

"By his invariable presence,

"he gradually became
indispensable to Hitler.

"He succeeded ultimately
in removing all rivals

about his master's throne."

Martin Bormann
ran the show.

He was Hitler's
right-hand man, his consigliere.

Hitler didn't make any move,
didn't do anything

without checking
with Bormann.

Well, let me say,
it's an extraordinary statement.

Historical record has it
that Bormann died in Berlin.

He never made it out.

narrator: During the final
days of the war,

Martin Bormann was by Hitler's
side in the Fuehrerbunker.

On May 1, 1945,

a day after Hitler's
alleged suicide,

Bormann and the leader
of the Nazi Youth

attempted to escape Berlin,
but hours later,

Bormann was believed
to have been killed

by Soviet artillery
near Lehrter Station--

a mile and a half
from the bunker.

He's supposed
to be dead in Berlin,

but the evidence
is inconclusive.

There's no body.
There's no forensics.

There was enough doubt
that he died

that the War Crimes Tribunal
in Nuremberg

prosecuted Martin Bormann
in absentia.

I worked

for the International War Crimes
Tribunal.

It's an immense undertaking.

It's an unimaginable
undertaking.

And there's no way in my mind

that the Nuremberg
War Crimes Tribunal

would have wasted resources
and prosecuted Martin Bormann

and asked the court
to convict him

if they didn't think
he was alive.

When you have a man
that says,

"Look, my father
was Bormann's driver,"

it's really quite fantastic,
but we have to run it down.

What we need to do
is get somebody

who's got a handle
on the facts of the case.

narrator: The team makes
contact with Graeme Wood,

a journalist
for "The Atlantic"

and lecturer
at Yale University,

who spent nine years
investigating the Bormann case.

We have come across a man

who claims his father was
the driver of Martin Bormann.

In Misiones, Argentina.

I mean, what do you
think about that?

It's possible.

I mean, we don't know
what happened to Bormann.

There's evidence
in both directions.

The official story
is that he left the bunker

and died on the spot,

but there was no one there
to witness that

except for the leader
of the Nazi Party Youth,

and a lot of people

were unwilling
to take his word or it,

including major historians
who saw possibly an alibi

to get Bormann to safety.

In the 1960s,
German authorities

excavate that area
to look for Bormann's bones...

It was embarrassing
for the West German government

to have a very,
very important figure

from the Third Reich
at large

and not being able
to track him down.

For someone as prominent
as Bormann to still be at large

would have been
just one more way

of pulling Germany
back into the past--

a past that it really
didn't want to remember.

A few years later in 1972,
the German authorities

for no real reason
of new evidence

searched again in the area

where Bormann
had allegedly died,

and miraculously
after having searched

that area already
in the 1960s,

in that very same spot,
they found his bones,

and they said,
"It's over. We found it.

No need to continue
looking for him."

The DNA analysis
showed that these bones

almost certainly
were Bormann's.

The question is,
were they always there?

Were they there
from May 1, 1945?

But what's the evidence
that he lived?

When people looked
at those bones

the evidence
was really not as clear

as I think
many would have liked.

Also suspicious--there was
the fact that the soil

that was attached
to the bones

had a kind of red,
iron-rich clay,

which is something

that you don't find
anywhere in Germany...

We have a skull in Berlin

with clay that's only found
in South America.

This is a potential major break
in this investigation.

And then in 1999,
the Germans decided

nobody would be looking
at these bones in the future.

Like the Hitler case,
there was no forensics.

There was no good evidence
that he died.

They didn't have a body.

They didn't have a witness
they could completely trust,

and the fact is that the
forensics we do have are wrong.

That completely opens up
this whole thing.

Bormann is sort of the key
for Hitler's fate.

If Hitler did make it
to South America,

he took people with him.

That's the bottom line,
isn't it?

Martin Bormann
very well may take us

one step closer
to Adolf Hitler.

Let's look
for a street name.

narrator:
In Misiones, Argentina,

Gerrard Williams
and Tim Kennedy

have uncovered a Nazi network

with potential connections
to Hermann Goering

and Martin Bormann
in the area.

We have to
break this network down.

We have to see how deep it goes
and where this web reaches.

- And who was here.
- Yeah.

narrator: Now they have located
the home

of a potential Nazi fugitive,

who may still be living
in the area.

There was another guy as well
with the name Edmundo.

He was an old parachute soldier.

We know that Misiones
is flooded with Nazis,

senior Nazis, SS.

You name it,
they were there.

We may have uncovered
a living Nazi in this town.

We need to go talk to him.

I think it's on the other
side, actually.

It's over here. There it is.
- All right.

We have to approach
this interview very carefully.

Take it slow, ease our way
into the conversation.

- Buenos días.
- Buenos días.

We're trying to find
an Edmundo?

Edmundo is his father,

but he passed away
some years ago.

Okay. Um...

We're researchers
looking for some information

that your father
might have known.

Could you talk to us
for a few minutes?

Buscamos un poquito
información sobre tu papá.

So we've heard

that your father was
an important man in the area.

Can you tell us
about your dad?

Where he was born,
how he grew up?

Did your father ever speak
about the war?

Did he ever talk
about his time in service?

Do you still have them?

I'd love to see them.
I really would love to see them.

Bueno.

This is his father.

- Luftwaffe wings?
- Yeah.

Yeah, he's such a boy,
just a little boy.

Sí.

For me, this is fascinating.

To actually see
and touch the things

that are part of the history
I've been working on so much

is just incredible.

He has some more medals
he says, yeah.

It's an iron cross
first class.

Hay otra.

This is the highest award
for bravery.

And he seems to have
two of them.

He's been awarded
the iron cross twice.

This is one very brave man.

When did he come to Argentina?

So, now, it would
also make sense

that your father was German,

could speak
to the community here,

so there was
a good client base.

And I suppose your father
may well have treated

many former Nazis
in his clinic.

The thing is, Alex,

is that after World War II,

your dad probably
still feels under orders.

Whether or not he's part
of the Nazi organization here,

I don't know.

You don't know either.

The only man who knows,
he's no longer with us.

But for the Nazi party,
18-year-old boy, iron cross,

he's a poster boy.

Is there any information
that you have

of people that your father
would have known

that could have been
high-level Nazis?

We're looking for names.

I need dates.

The thing is, is people
don't like to talk

because they have something
to hide,

and I know that your father's
part of it.

I don't know.

Who's this?

What specifics can you tell me
about this photo?

I need to know
who took the photo,

when they took the photo,
where they took the photo.

We have an alleged picture of
an aged Adolf Hitler post-war.

To prove a picture
like that's authenticity

is imperative,
but if we're able

to prove
that we have a photograph

of Adolf Hitler in Misiones,

that will be one of the most
significant discoveries

in this investigation--
perhaps history.

narrator: Next time
on "Hunting Hitler"...

- Look at that.
- Yeah.

Wow, I was not expecting
this at all.

Here we are, in a kitchen
where the man

who facilitated the deaths
of close to 11 million people

would make his morning coffee.

Ugh.
Don't want to stay in here.

What was your mother doing
for Nazi Germany?

Spying.

Whoa, right here.
We got an opening.

That's an escape tunnel.

Holy...