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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,973 --> 00:00:08,241 Previously on Happy Face... 2 00:00:08,242 --> 00:00:09,353 Is that her? What's her name? 3 00:00:09,377 --> 00:00:10,478 Heather Richmond. 4 00:00:10,611 --> 00:00:11,979 "Heather's boyfriend at the time, 5 00:00:12,113 --> 00:00:13,590 "Elijah Carter, was convicted of her murder. 6 00:00:13,614 --> 00:00:14,882 He maintains his innocence." 7 00:00:14,982 --> 00:00:17,318 Heather Richmond was my kill. 8 00:00:17,418 --> 00:00:18,962 This confession is a game changer. 9 00:00:18,986 --> 00:00:19,996 We need to pressure the D.A. 10 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,389 to reopen the case. 11 00:00:21,489 --> 00:00:23,857 It's a birthday card. I got it in the mail. 12 00:00:24,692 --> 00:00:26,760 Perhaps we should first explain 13 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:28,128 why the Happy Face Killer 14 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:29,439 called into the show in the first place. 15 00:00:29,463 --> 00:00:31,365 Because he's my father. 16 00:00:31,465 --> 00:00:33,743 I just wanted to see if you were a sick fuck like your dad. 17 00:00:59,527 --> 00:01:01,395 Can we talk about 18 00:01:01,529 --> 00:01:03,431 how your father got caught? 19 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:07,201 A woman named Louise Nelson, 20 00:01:07,335 --> 00:01:10,704 uh, he was questioned about her murder 21 00:01:10,804 --> 00:01:14,975 and that led to an eventual confession. 22 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:18,679 To her and seven others. 23 00:01:19,713 --> 00:01:24,017 What made Louise different from the other victims? 24 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:26,654 He knew her. 25 00:01:26,754 --> 00:01:28,055 Um, they were dating, 26 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,391 they said they were going to get married. 27 00:01:30,491 --> 00:01:34,362 I-I thought she'd make a cool stepmom. 28 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:41,668 #FreeElijah is trending like crazy. 29 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:43,070 - Mm. Really? - Yeah. 30 00:01:43,171 --> 00:01:44,537 - You're totally famous, Mom. - Mm-mm. 31 00:01:44,538 --> 00:01:46,407 Why can't I watch your interview? 32 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:49,277 I told you, you can watch it when you're older. Hey. 33 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:52,380 Hey, hey, come back here. Come here. Okay. 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,248 Where is your head? Oh. 35 00:01:54,348 --> 00:01:56,417 I can't find your head. Where is it? 36 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:57,884 There you are. 37 00:02:00,921 --> 00:02:03,557 Hey, is it mostly positive? 38 00:02:03,657 --> 00:02:05,525 Yeah. I mean, are there people saying 39 00:02:05,526 --> 00:02:07,395 you're centering your white lady tears? Yeah. 40 00:02:07,495 --> 00:02:10,598 Okay. Okay, no more phone. Go get your backpacks. 41 00:02:11,399 --> 00:02:14,101 - Did you know that Grandpa's... - Stop calling him that. 42 00:02:14,202 --> 00:02:17,638 Keith's art sells for, like, hundreds of dollars online? 43 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:19,673 It'll probably be more now that he's hot again. 44 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:22,409 Hazel, we didn't do this to get money or to get famous. 45 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:24,111 We're just gonna... stick to who we are. 46 00:02:24,212 --> 00:02:25,779 It is who we are. 47 00:02:25,913 --> 00:02:28,048 It's a part of who we are. 48 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:29,783 And that's what you can say at school, 49 00:02:29,883 --> 00:02:31,485 if anybody... 50 00:02:31,585 --> 00:02:32,919 gives you a hard time. 51 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:35,022 We'll be fine. 52 00:02:35,122 --> 00:02:37,558 My friends don't watch Dr. Greg. 53 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:39,293 No offense. 54 00:02:39,393 --> 00:02:40,828 None taken. 55 00:02:49,303 --> 00:02:50,938 Buddha? 56 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:55,042 Attaboy. Come on. 57 00:03:21,435 --> 00:03:23,237 Hey, Adele. 58 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:24,337 Hi, Ivy. 59 00:03:24,372 --> 00:03:26,106 I'm just, uh, popping in, 60 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:28,275 seeing how everything's been... 61 00:03:28,276 --> 00:03:29,677 going. 62 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:32,645 Everything's been going great. 63 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:35,549 The tips are pouring in. 64 00:03:35,683 --> 00:03:36,984 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 65 00:03:37,084 --> 00:03:40,421 Wow. Are any like, like real? 66 00:03:41,522 --> 00:03:44,024 Most are batshit, but, uh, 67 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:46,360 we got one from a trucker who knew your dad. 68 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:47,627 He said Southeast Texas was 69 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:49,497 - on his regular route. - Mm-hmm. 70 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:51,599 Oh, did you see the protests? 71 00:03:51,699 --> 00:03:54,368 - What protests? - There are hundreds of people 72 00:03:54,468 --> 00:03:56,737 outside Callaway's house, and also the homes 73 00:03:56,837 --> 00:03:58,906 of the nine judges on the CCA. 74 00:03:59,006 --> 00:04:01,909 - My God. Really? - Yeah. 75 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:05,413 Wow, I guess we made a ruckus. 76 00:04:05,513 --> 00:04:07,915 Oh, we made a ruckus. 77 00:04:08,048 --> 00:04:10,650 There's my inspirational woman. 78 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:12,319 - How are you? - Oh, I'm-I'm good. 79 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,721 Good, good, good. 80 00:04:13,821 --> 00:04:15,399 I just came from breakfast with the network. 81 00:04:15,423 --> 00:04:18,191 They are so thrilled, Melissa. They are thrilled. 82 00:04:18,292 --> 00:04:19,493 The socials are positive. 83 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:21,362 The numbers are through the roof. 84 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:22,702 Everybody, everybody loves you. 85 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:24,498 Which is why I want you on this story 86 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:28,068 full-time as consulting producer under Ivy. 87 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:30,671 I mean, you do have an instinct for this. 88 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:36,477 I... I just really love my job. 89 00:04:36,577 --> 00:04:39,079 And it'll be waiting for you on the other side. 90 00:04:39,179 --> 00:04:41,682 But you are the face of this thing right now. 91 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:43,283 I need you available. 92 00:04:43,384 --> 00:04:45,217 We'll talk more about it later tonight. 93 00:04:45,218 --> 00:04:47,219 Uh, Roxanne and I put a little something together 94 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:49,623 at ours, a dinner. You'll bring Ben, right? 95 00:04:49,723 --> 00:04:52,560 - To your house? Tonight? - Absolutely. 96 00:04:52,660 --> 00:04:54,127 People want to meet you, Melissa. 97 00:04:54,261 --> 00:04:56,096 Ivy, you come too, um, 98 00:04:56,196 --> 00:04:57,716 I'll have Tabitha send you the details. 99 00:04:57,798 --> 00:05:00,834 I got to go. Dr. Greg. 100 00:05:03,437 --> 00:05:04,705 Do you have a laptop with you? 101 00:05:04,805 --> 00:05:08,842 No. I have, like, six different mascaras. 102 00:05:08,942 --> 00:05:10,743 Okay, I will get you set up. 103 00:05:10,744 --> 00:05:13,046 And don't worry, you're just gonna listen to tips. 104 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:16,984 We're looking for anything that connects Keith to Heather. 105 00:05:17,117 --> 00:05:19,119 Um, right. 106 00:05:19,252 --> 00:05:22,054 About that... 107 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:23,891 Um... 108 00:05:23,991 --> 00:05:27,361 These are the unopened letters. 109 00:05:29,229 --> 00:05:31,899 My dad said he told me about the ninth murder, 110 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:34,635 so maybe he did. 111 00:05:38,806 --> 00:05:41,742 Well, I guess I'm not going to dinner tonight. 112 00:05:48,482 --> 00:05:49,683 Look at this place. 113 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:52,453 I know. It's wild. 114 00:05:53,153 --> 00:05:55,489 - How are you feeling? - Fine. 115 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:57,825 It's just a dinner, right? 116 00:05:57,925 --> 00:05:59,593 Just a dinner. 117 00:06:00,394 --> 00:06:03,163 - Can we turn around? - Heck yeah. 118 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:05,198 Can we please turn around? 119 00:06:05,298 --> 00:06:08,001 Welcome. May I take your coat? 120 00:06:08,101 --> 00:06:09,802 - Oh, yes. Thank you so much. - Oh. 121 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,005 - Yeah. - Will you hold these? 122 00:06:12,139 --> 00:06:13,674 Okay. 123 00:06:13,774 --> 00:06:16,076 - Thank you. - Thank you. 124 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:18,345 - Thanks. - Here you go. 125 00:06:18,446 --> 00:06:20,481 - Um... - Oh, there he is. 126 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:22,949 - There he is. - I feel weird. 127 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:25,719 - I shouldn't have worn Spanx. - Nice spot. 128 00:06:25,853 --> 00:06:27,620 There's the woman of the hour! 129 00:06:27,621 --> 00:06:29,490 - Hi. - Melissa. 130 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:31,892 - Hello. - You look wonderful. 131 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:33,393 - Oh. - Mwah. Yeah. 132 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:34,794 - Hey, Greg, nice to see you. - Great to see you. 133 00:06:34,795 --> 00:06:36,329 - Good to see you, too. - Yeah, yeah. 134 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:37,898 This place is, uh, fantastic. 135 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:39,466 Oh, it's all my wife, Roxanne. 136 00:06:39,467 --> 00:06:41,668 - It's her labor of love. - No, you're my labor of love, 137 00:06:41,669 --> 00:06:44,071 - darling. - Ah. Mwah. 138 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:47,207 Thank you so much for having us. These are for you. 139 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:49,008 Oh, thank you. And it's our pleasure. 140 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:50,711 Now come, have a drink, 141 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,379 - meet everyone. - Yeah, come on in. 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,147 - Champagne? - Thank you. 143 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,125 - Thank you so much. Cheers. - Thank you so much. Thank you. 144 00:06:56,149 --> 00:06:58,351 - This is Lydia, my best friend. - Hello. 145 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:01,654 - This is Eddie, Greg's manager. - Hi. So good to meet you. 146 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:04,156 - And Caryn, Greg's literary agent. - Nice to meet you. 147 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:06,859 And Frances, president of Gregarious Pictures. 148 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:08,228 Nice to meet you. 149 00:07:08,361 --> 00:07:09,930 - Wow. - Um, this is... this is Ben. 150 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:11,240 How you doing? Sorry. 151 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:12,900 Um, so, it's so crazy 152 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:16,003 that you all live here in Seattle. 153 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:19,539 No, I, uh... I-I flew everybody in. 154 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:20,774 - Mm. - Oh. 155 00:07:20,874 --> 00:07:22,976 Uh, do you have an event or something? 156 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:26,580 Uh, yeah, this event. 157 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,181 Dinner's ready, everyone. 158 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,383 - Yeah, let's go eat. - Shall we? Shall we? 159 00:07:35,889 --> 00:07:37,725 Yeah, they seem to bury them deep. 160 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:48,468 - What are you doing? - Jesus, Max! Stalker much? 161 00:07:48,569 --> 00:07:51,138 You're the one trying to break into Mom's safe. 162 00:07:51,238 --> 00:07:53,440 Our birthdays aren't working. 163 00:07:53,541 --> 00:07:55,843 I think it's their anniversary. 164 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:59,880 Can you heat up the pasta? I'm hungry. 165 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:01,782 So use the microwave. 166 00:08:33,681 --> 00:08:35,649 ♪ This will never end, 'cause I want more... ♪ 167 00:08:35,783 --> 00:08:38,318 The obstacles before you are real, 168 00:08:38,418 --> 00:08:41,921 but nothing you cannot overcome. 169 00:08:41,922 --> 00:08:45,125 It all begins with a positive attitude. 170 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:46,860 A belief in yourself. 171 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:51,364 A belief that you're exactly where you're meant to be, 172 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:56,403 traveling down the path paved just for you. 173 00:09:07,848 --> 00:09:10,818 ♪ If I had a heart, I could love you ♪ 174 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:13,053 What? 175 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:15,121 ♪ If I had a voice, I would sing... ♪ 176 00:09:15,122 --> 00:09:17,190 - What? - It's-it's a guy in Texas. 177 00:09:17,324 --> 00:09:19,059 I mean... I mean, a woman. 178 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:22,963 She says her brother has proof that Keith killed Heather. 179 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:24,497 - Let me see. - Okay. 180 00:09:24,598 --> 00:09:30,537 ♪ I'll see what tomorrow brings ♪ 181 00:09:30,671 --> 00:09:36,376 ♪ Ah, ah-ah, ah-ah ♪ 182 00:09:36,476 --> 00:09:41,148 ♪ Ah, ah-ah-ah, ah ♪ 183 00:09:41,248 --> 00:09:46,486 ♪ Ah, ah-ah, ah-ah ♪ 184 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:51,759 ♪ If I had a voice, I would sing ♪ 185 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:08,174 If you stay on the path meant for you, if you trust, 186 00:10:08,175 --> 00:10:11,444 you will get exactly where you need to go. 187 00:10:12,646 --> 00:10:17,818 ♪ More, give me more, give me more ♪ 188 00:10:17,918 --> 00:10:20,921 ♪ Crushed and filled with all I found ♪ 189 00:10:21,054 --> 00:10:27,193 ♪ Underneath and inside, just to come around ♪ 190 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:32,700 ♪ More, give me more, give me more. ♪ 191 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:42,509 Let the record reflect 192 00:10:42,609 --> 00:10:44,912 that Mr. Jesperson has pled guilty 193 00:10:45,012 --> 00:10:48,281 to the murder of Louise Nelson. 194 00:10:48,381 --> 00:10:50,684 I understand we have a victim impact statement 195 00:10:50,784 --> 00:10:53,120 before sentencing? 196 00:11:02,129 --> 00:11:04,531 "My name is Ashton McBride. 197 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:09,002 "Louise Nelson was my mother. 198 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:13,707 She was a ray of sunshine in a dark world." 199 00:11:18,746 --> 00:11:22,983 "This man killed my mother. 200 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:25,018 "Why should he get to make a deal 201 00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:28,087 "to not get the death penalty? 202 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:30,623 "That's not justice. 203 00:11:30,724 --> 00:11:33,827 That's fucking bullshit." 204 00:11:43,003 --> 00:11:45,638 Hey, hey, hey. Bailiff? 205 00:11:47,307 --> 00:11:48,640 - Bailiff, get him. - Stop! 206 00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:50,442 Get off him! Get off him! 207 00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:52,379 Your Honor, this isn't safe! 208 00:11:58,318 --> 00:11:59,786 Hello. 209 00:11:59,787 --> 00:12:01,821 Hi, buddy. 210 00:12:01,822 --> 00:12:03,690 I'm Ash. 211 00:12:03,791 --> 00:12:05,258 This is Buddha. 212 00:12:06,626 --> 00:12:08,829 Is your mom home? 213 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:22,509 ♪ So happy ♪ 214 00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:26,847 ♪ Happy ♪ 215 00:12:26,947 --> 00:12:32,019 ♪ Oh, so happy... ♪ 216 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,288 ♪ Happy ♪ 217 00:12:35,388 --> 00:12:38,225 ♪ Oh, oh-oh, oh ♪ 218 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:43,496 ♪ So happy ♪ 219 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,598 ♪ Happy ♪ 220 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:48,235 ♪ Oh, oh-oh, oh ♪ 221 00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:50,837 ♪ So happy ♪ 222 00:12:50,838 --> 00:12:53,073 ♪ So happy. ♪ 223 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,693 - First course. Please enjoy. - That's amazing, Chef. 224 00:13:04,717 --> 00:13:06,195 - Thank you so much. - Thank you. 225 00:13:06,219 --> 00:13:07,955 Would anyone like some more wine? 226 00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:09,132 - Always. - So, Melissa, have you had a chance 227 00:13:09,156 --> 00:13:10,958 to talk to Caryn yet? 228 00:13:11,058 --> 00:13:13,160 She's a genius. She sold four of my books. 229 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:15,128 Soon to be five. 230 00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:17,430 Have you thought about a first book, Melissa? 231 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:22,903 Oh. Um... 232 00:13:23,003 --> 00:13:25,172 Me? Uh, um... 233 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:27,140 Oh, write a book? No. 234 00:13:27,274 --> 00:13:30,310 Of course! I could get you a deal tomorrow. 235 00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:32,579 What about Nightmares of My Father? 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,314 A play on Obama's first. 237 00:13:34,414 --> 00:13:36,782 - Um, yeah... - How about something simple? 238 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:38,151 The Serial Killer's Daughter. 239 00:13:38,285 --> 00:13:39,619 That's been done. 240 00:13:39,719 --> 00:13:41,697 - I think I tried to option that. - Yeah. 241 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:44,524 Or you could go funny. Daddy Issues. 242 00:13:44,624 --> 00:13:46,626 It's actually not... It's not funny. 243 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:56,136 Delicious. 244 00:13:57,670 --> 00:14:00,640 Yeah, Happy Face. Let's do this! 245 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,675 What? No popcorn, screw? 246 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:06,179 Settle down... or I ain't gonna play this. 247 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,614 We're settled. 248 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:08,981 You're settled. 249 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:14,587 So, Melissa? 250 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,655 I just wanted to share that I was 251 00:14:16,656 --> 00:14:18,959 so impressed by your bravery on camera. 252 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:20,693 Oh, thank you. 253 00:14:20,827 --> 00:14:23,863 I just can't imagine what you went through. 254 00:14:23,997 --> 00:14:25,365 It's unthinkable. 255 00:14:25,465 --> 00:14:27,834 She didn't even get to tell the really gnarly stuff, 256 00:14:27,935 --> 00:14:29,769 with the network's standards and practices. 257 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:32,039 What do you mean? 258 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,340 The cats. 259 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:35,575 Oh, yeah, that's, 260 00:14:35,675 --> 00:14:37,710 that's not, uh, dinner conversation. 261 00:14:37,810 --> 00:14:41,581 Yeah, we-we don't have to talk about that. 262 00:14:41,681 --> 00:14:44,084 Well, now I really want to know. 263 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,688 Um... 264 00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:52,192 Well... 265 00:14:55,828 --> 00:14:58,565 When I was a kid, uh, we had 266 00:14:58,698 --> 00:15:00,666 um, a barn cat, 267 00:15:00,667 --> 00:15:02,902 who had a litter of kittens. 268 00:15:03,003 --> 00:15:04,771 And, uh, oh... 269 00:15:04,871 --> 00:15:05,939 They were so sweet. 270 00:15:06,073 --> 00:15:07,440 I used to... 271 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:09,376 feed them with a baby bottle. 272 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:12,545 Um, but then my... 273 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:15,983 ...dad found out about them and he... 274 00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:19,586 ...squeezed one to death. 275 00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:21,821 I watched it happen. 276 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:24,691 And then... 277 00:15:24,791 --> 00:15:27,627 the rest of them he... 278 00:15:28,461 --> 00:15:30,964 ...tied to a clothesline by their tails. 279 00:15:31,064 --> 00:15:33,800 They scratched themselves to death. 280 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:35,935 Oh, my God. 281 00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:38,737 You must have spent a fortune on therapy. 282 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,807 I've never been, actually. 283 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,475 Well, I mean, I'd say you'd 284 00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:45,078 had at least one session, wouldn't you? 285 00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:47,046 And even after the cats, 286 00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:50,350 your mother had no clue that something was going on? 287 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,585 She works with battered women, 288 00:15:52,685 --> 00:15:54,654 which one might see as penance. 289 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:57,389 How do you grow up with those parents and end up so normal? 290 00:16:01,761 --> 00:16:04,064 - I'm gonna use the restroom. - You okay? 291 00:16:04,164 --> 00:16:06,333 Yeah, I'm fine. 292 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,605 It was our happy place. 293 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:15,475 It was our safe place. 294 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:16,976 Uh, my... 295 00:16:17,077 --> 00:16:18,978 my earliest memory is actually from there. 296 00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:22,249 It was just a flash, but it was my mom 297 00:16:22,349 --> 00:16:23,949 holding me, 298 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:26,586 and my dad smiling at us 299 00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:28,955 from across the river. 300 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:33,826 You loved your father. 301 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,663 I did. 302 00:16:36,796 --> 00:16:38,464 And you still do. 303 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:40,367 - No. - Melissa... 304 00:16:40,467 --> 00:16:41,834 No. 305 00:16:41,934 --> 00:16:43,969 I know this might be difficult, 306 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:46,138 but can we talk about your father's... 307 00:16:46,139 --> 00:16:47,840 Dude, she's hot. 308 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:50,077 Just the basics? 309 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:52,412 Um... 310 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:54,881 ...he picked them up on the road. 311 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,482 Um, he usually... 312 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:58,017 You watch your mouth. 313 00:16:58,151 --> 00:17:00,819 Or what? 314 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:02,988 He, um, came off like a guy you could trust. 315 00:17:02,989 --> 00:17:04,891 Were they, um... 316 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,493 working girls, prostitutes? 317 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:09,362 Some of them were sex workers, yes. 318 00:17:09,496 --> 00:17:11,963 Sex became rape 319 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:13,700 and strangulation, 320 00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:16,803 and then he would dump the bodies in rural areas. 321 00:17:16,903 --> 00:17:19,939 Many of them weren't found, uh... 322 00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:40,893 Excuse me? 323 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:44,996 My brother, uh... 324 00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:48,501 my brother murdered someone. 325 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:52,405 Oh, okay. 326 00:17:52,539 --> 00:17:54,674 Um... 327 00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:58,478 You want to talk about it? 328 00:17:59,346 --> 00:18:01,414 It was, like, a drug thing. 329 00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:02,815 But I always think 330 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:05,818 if I'd just tried harder to get him into rehab... 331 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:08,255 What's your name? 332 00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:09,489 Hannah. 333 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,424 Hannah? 334 00:18:11,524 --> 00:18:13,660 Hey, um... 335 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:18,198 It sounds like you're blaming yourself. 336 00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:20,099 And... 337 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,802 you've been a victim of the violence, too. 338 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:26,206 Hey, come here. 339 00:18:29,309 --> 00:18:30,943 I'm so sorry. 340 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:32,145 Uh... 341 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:33,413 I should get back. 342 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:35,414 - Sorry. Yeah. - Okay. 343 00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:43,156 Hello? 344 00:18:43,256 --> 00:18:46,826 Were you ever going to call me? 345 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:49,662 What? Why are you calling me? 346 00:18:49,762 --> 00:18:51,664 How-how did you even get my number? 347 00:18:51,764 --> 00:18:53,366 What, you think a man can't get 348 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:55,567 his own damn phone? Is that what you think? 349 00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:57,003 Do you think I'm helpless? 350 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,638 No, I don't know what your problem is, 351 00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:00,573 but I cannot deal with it. 352 00:19:00,673 --> 00:19:02,441 My problem 353 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:04,311 is my daughter, 354 00:19:04,411 --> 00:19:06,012 who apparently 355 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,981 is so selfish that she thinks 356 00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:12,519 that she can take the number one true crime story of the year... 357 00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:14,654 my story... 358 00:19:14,754 --> 00:19:17,923 and find a way to make it all about her. 359 00:19:17,924 --> 00:19:20,360 You always wanted to be a star. 360 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:22,229 Are you fucking kidding me? 361 00:19:22,329 --> 00:19:24,431 But don't you worry, Missy. 362 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:26,833 Because Texas 363 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:28,835 will come knocking. 364 00:19:28,935 --> 00:19:31,438 And then you'll get exactly 365 00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:34,274 what you wanted out of this all along. 366 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:38,345 Elijah's needle in my arm. 367 00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:43,350 I never said that. 368 00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:44,650 I have to go. 369 00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:47,254 Wait, wait, wait, uh... 370 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,522 Which screw said that to you? 371 00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:51,291 - What? - Prison guard. 372 00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:53,025 Which prison guard said 373 00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:56,328 to you that you were sick like me? 374 00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,398 Was it Bassett? 375 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,000 He's bald. 376 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,635 Wants everyone 377 00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:03,735 to think he's tough. 378 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,872 I have to go, Dad. 379 00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:07,574 I thought so. 380 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:09,809 Don't call me again. 381 00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,721 Sorry I couldn't let you inside. 382 00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:24,190 Don't be. 383 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:27,059 This, this is perfect. 384 00:20:27,894 --> 00:20:30,196 Everything just so. 385 00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:38,771 I used to get left alone a lot when I was your age, too. 386 00:20:39,772 --> 00:20:42,809 I always got sick of being bounced around between my aunt, 387 00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,077 grandma, 388 00:20:45,211 --> 00:20:47,414 sometimes my mom. 389 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:52,018 It got easier to be by myself. 390 00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:53,620 I'm not alone. 391 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:55,488 My sister's inside. 392 00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:59,091 Oh, yeah? 393 00:20:59,892 --> 00:21:01,428 How old is she? 394 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,996 Just turned 15. 395 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:06,633 You have reached the voice mailbox 396 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,636 of the warden of Oregon State Penitentiary. 397 00:21:09,736 --> 00:21:11,471 To leave a message, press one. 398 00:21:12,972 --> 00:21:15,074 Uh, my father is an inmate there. 399 00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:18,110 Uh, his name is Keith Jesperson. 400 00:21:18,244 --> 00:21:20,313 I think you should know 401 00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:23,249 that he has some sort of secret phone 402 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:26,453 and he needs to stop calling me from it. 403 00:21:26,553 --> 00:21:29,456 Immediately. Thank you so much. 404 00:21:29,556 --> 00:21:31,858 Bye-bye. 405 00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:35,628 Everything okay? 406 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:40,467 Yeah, everything's fine. 407 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,769 Fine? 408 00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:46,606 Okay. 409 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,941 Maybe everything's, uh... 410 00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:52,345 ...slightly not fine. 411 00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:58,250 It's just, uh... 412 00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:00,720 it's, it's just a lot. 413 00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:05,692 You know I, uh... 414 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,530 ...made a name for myself in L.A., had it all. 415 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,132 But eventually I realized I hated it. 416 00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:16,469 The sun makes you old. 417 00:22:17,504 --> 00:22:19,372 So I moved the show up here. 418 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,641 I like the peace and the quiet. 419 00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:24,310 I love the... trees. 420 00:22:24,411 --> 00:22:27,313 You like being a big fish in a small pond. 421 00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:32,385 Okay. 422 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:34,854 My, uh, my point is, 423 00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:37,223 what you want can change. 424 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,125 If you're open to it. 425 00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:42,695 So you want me to write a book to entertain rich people 426 00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:45,898 who treat me like I'm some kind of zoo animal? 427 00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:47,900 With fascination 428 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:49,569 comes power. 429 00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:52,471 Any one of those people at that table 430 00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:53,740 would kill to work with you. 431 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,141 That's not why I came forward. 432 00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,076 I know, I know, I know. 433 00:22:57,176 --> 00:22:58,878 But this is your moment. 434 00:22:58,978 --> 00:23:01,480 You need to get your father out of your head, 435 00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:03,082 so you have the space to figure out 436 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,652 what you're gonna do with all of this. 437 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:09,589 Who you want to be. 438 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:21,434 Hi, yes, is this Mr. Griffin? 439 00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:23,770 This is Ivy Campbell from The Dr. Greg Show. 440 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,439 Thank you so much for taking my call so late. 441 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,641 Of course, Ivy, uh, 442 00:23:28,741 --> 00:23:29,876 but call me Harold. 443 00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:31,444 Sure, so... 444 00:23:31,544 --> 00:23:35,181 my associate producer got a tip from your sister Barbara. 445 00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:37,750 She says that you run a prison arts program? 446 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:39,151 And you met Keith Jesperson 447 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,521 in one of those creative workshops? 448 00:23:41,621 --> 00:23:43,322 Keith? 449 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:45,724 What did Barbara tell you? 450 00:23:45,725 --> 00:23:49,529 No, I, uh, taught Elijah Carter. 451 00:23:50,663 --> 00:23:52,230 Elijah wrote a song. 452 00:23:52,231 --> 00:23:54,867 I still have the recording. 453 00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:57,470 Should I send it? 454 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:01,216 It was the best part of my night. 455 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Well, you're helping people. 456 00:24:02,642 --> 00:24:04,109 Well, you're helping me. 457 00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:05,788 Thank you for being so supportive even if you were 458 00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:07,647 only there for the food. 459 00:24:07,747 --> 00:24:10,282 - The food was pretty good. - Good. 460 00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:13,520 Yeah, I'm tired. 461 00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:15,187 I'm so glad it's over. 462 00:24:15,321 --> 00:24:17,056 Oh, I have to use the bathroom. 463 00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:19,391 Are the kids in bed already? 464 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,029 - I'll be right down. - All right. 465 00:24:33,873 --> 00:24:35,607 Good boy, Buddha. 466 00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:38,911 Good boy. 467 00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:42,749 Here you go. 468 00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:51,090 Hey, Max. 469 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:53,359 Hey, Mom. 470 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,062 Buddha? 471 00:24:57,229 --> 00:24:58,397 Mom. 472 00:24:58,531 --> 00:25:00,099 Hey. 473 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:04,203 Hey, buddy. 474 00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:05,538 Hey, Mom. 475 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,338 Whose dog is this? 476 00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:08,541 Oh. 477 00:25:08,641 --> 00:25:10,409 This is Buddha. 478 00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:12,745 And your friend is here. 479 00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:20,252 Max, get inside. 480 00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:22,589 - What? - Go. 481 00:25:24,423 --> 00:25:26,593 - Right now. - But... 482 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:28,494 but... but he's... 483 00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,597 - Get inside! - He said you were friends. 484 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:33,265 Tell your dad to call the police now. 485 00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:38,237 Your mind may be filled with dark thoughts. 486 00:25:39,438 --> 00:25:42,074 Fear, anxiety, 487 00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:43,743 hatred. 488 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,746 Hatred. 489 00:25:46,846 --> 00:25:49,514 But if you allow them to flow through you, 490 00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:52,184 then they won't stop your power. 491 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:54,887 Okay... We called the cops. 492 00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,388 And they're on their way. 493 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:58,625 - And they're... they're gonna help you... - Melissa! 494 00:25:58,758 --> 00:26:00,760 Melissa. 495 00:26:01,728 --> 00:26:04,430 You are the only one that can help me. 496 00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:11,671 Ash? 497 00:26:13,372 --> 00:26:15,608 Why are you here? 498 00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:17,977 I just wanted to see what your life 499 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:20,012 was like now. 500 00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:22,949 Everything seems to be going so well. 501 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:26,084 I'm so happy how things turned out for you. 502 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:29,587 And I just, I wanted you to know how very, 503 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,390 very, very lucky you are 504 00:26:32,391 --> 00:26:35,161 that your fucking kids are here. 505 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,666 How dare you put her picture 506 00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:41,734 on the fucking TV, you bitch! 507 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,302 - She wasn't like them! - Ben! 508 00:26:43,402 --> 00:26:45,413 - She wasn't a fucking transient! - Call the police now! 509 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,149 - Who the hell is that, Melissa? - She wasn't a goddamn prostitute! 510 00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:49,407 - Go downstairs! - Go! Max, downstairs now! 511 00:26:49,408 --> 00:26:52,277 - And she was never married to your piece-of-devil-shit father! - Go to your sister's room now! 512 00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:54,256 - Look at me! You never met her! - Hello? Yeah. 513 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,224 - Not even once! - I need the police at our house right now. 514 00:26:56,248 --> 00:26:57,760 - You fucking liar! - Max, go downstairs! - Get out of here! 515 00:26:57,784 --> 00:26:59,751 - You lie! You lie! - Please leave. 516 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:01,453 - Please leave. - Go downstairs. 517 00:27:01,553 --> 00:27:03,598 - Get out of here! - Hey, get the fuck out of here! 518 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,433 - Hazel, take him down to your bedroom! - Go downstairs, you two! 519 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,292 - Go, lock your door! - Please, go downstairs! 520 00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:09,095 Lock your door right now! 521 00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:11,139 - Get in your room and lock the door! - My mother was an angel! 522 00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:15,034 And she was put on this earth to make your father pay! 523 00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:18,170 - Who's gonna get justice for her? - Please leave. 524 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,839 For me! 525 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:21,107 Shit. 526 00:27:21,207 --> 00:27:22,508 The police are coming! 527 00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:24,642 - Yes, right now! - Go! 528 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,847 - They're coming. - Melissa, get away from the door. 529 00:27:31,718 --> 00:27:33,252 Who was that? 530 00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:35,387 I'm sorry. 531 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:38,390 ♪ She walks around pretending ♪ 532 00:27:38,524 --> 00:27:43,095 ♪ She don't know who I am ♪ 533 00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:49,401 ♪ Her fear of me is building up ♪ 534 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:52,503 ♪ About to break the dam ♪ 535 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:56,976 ♪ I know I said I didn't do it ♪ 536 00:27:57,076 --> 00:28:01,881 ♪ But the truth is that I did ♪ 537 00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:06,385 ♪ Had an angel on one shoulder ♪ 538 00:28:06,485 --> 00:28:11,623 ♪ But I took the devil's bid ♪ 539 00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:20,665 ♪ Was it worth it? ♪ 540 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:25,304 ♪ Oh, baby, that depends ♪ 541 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:30,309 ♪ She talked of new beginnings ♪ 542 00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:35,314 ♪ So I helped her reach the end ♪ 543 00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:40,252 ♪ Some days I feel sorry ♪ 544 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:46,025 ♪ But in Hell, I'll make amends ♪ 545 00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:48,995 ♪ Mm-hmm. ♪ 546 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:56,435 Hey. 547 00:28:56,535 --> 00:28:59,105 Hey, we still have not talked about this. 548 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:01,372 What happened? How did he get in? 549 00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:03,976 I was in here. Doing homework. 550 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,744 All night? Max was just alone? 551 00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:09,114 If you think this is my fault, 552 00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:10,616 you're a fucking joke. 553 00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:11,927 Don't you dare swear at me. 554 00:29:11,951 --> 00:29:13,285 Get out of my room! I hate you! 555 00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,121 Hazel. Hazel! 556 00:29:17,223 --> 00:29:18,457 What? 557 00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:20,559 Hey, did you see my texts? 558 00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:22,060 No, I'm... Uh, yes... 559 00:29:22,061 --> 00:29:24,096 I had some stuff going on. What's up? 560 00:29:24,196 --> 00:29:28,266 We are on a 6:00 a.m. flight to Texas. 561 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,069 What? 562 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,720 Elijah. 563 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,223 It's great to finally meet you. 564 00:30:57,323 --> 00:30:58,624 I'm Ivy, this is Melissa. 565 00:30:58,757 --> 00:31:01,260 We work for Dr. Greg. 566 00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:02,661 Mm-hmm. 567 00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,964 How you doing today? 568 00:31:05,097 --> 00:31:07,398 I'm good. I'm good. 569 00:31:07,399 --> 00:31:08,699 Good. 570 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,369 Surprised to see y'all down here. 571 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:14,106 Well, Dr. Greg definitely pulled some strings. 572 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:16,642 Turns out the warden's wife is a big fan. 573 00:31:16,775 --> 00:31:18,876 Behind me is Tyler. 574 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,779 He's gonna be doing our camera and sound. 575 00:31:21,613 --> 00:31:24,316 The microphone is right there, so if you wouldn't mind 576 00:31:24,416 --> 00:31:26,352 just clipping the end to your shirt? 577 00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:34,793 Thank you. 578 00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:39,631 My sister said the segment came out real good. 579 00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:43,802 Yeah. Yeah, it came out really great. 580 00:31:43,936 --> 00:31:46,973 The tips are... they're coming in, 581 00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:48,740 uh, which is why we're here. 582 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,509 With a story like this, 583 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:52,743 so many things can tumble into 584 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,180 the light, so we want to make sure 585 00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,390 - that we follow through... - Uh, Ivy? 586 00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:56,414 ...a lot of them. 587 00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:57,415 Sorry, uh, 588 00:31:57,449 --> 00:31:58,817 can you come back here? 589 00:31:58,917 --> 00:31:59,962 Can you give me one second? 590 00:31:59,986 --> 00:32:02,321 Thank you. Thank you so much. 591 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:04,289 I'm sorry. 592 00:32:04,323 --> 00:32:06,125 I, uh... 593 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:13,099 We, um... 594 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,468 ...we came here to... 595 00:32:19,171 --> 00:32:22,640 ...ask you 596 00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,843 about this song 597 00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:26,812 that you wrote. 598 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:30,282 "She walks around pretending 599 00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:31,883 "she don't know who I am. 600 00:32:32,018 --> 00:32:35,321 "Her fear of me is building up, about to break the dam. 601 00:32:35,421 --> 00:32:36,954 I know..." 602 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:38,190 Yeah, he wants out. 603 00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:40,159 What's going on? No, no, no, no. 604 00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,294 No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. Wait! Wait! 605 00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:44,206 Elijah, wait, wait. We heard you singing this song 606 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:45,807 on the recording and we just need you to explain. 607 00:32:45,831 --> 00:32:48,034 Elijah, if this song gets out... 608 00:32:48,134 --> 00:32:49,211 Wait, Elijah, wait. 609 00:32:49,235 --> 00:32:51,003 What? What did he say? 610 00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:53,539 What-what did he say? 611 00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:55,541 What did... God. 612 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,847 I lead interviews. 613 00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:04,916 Not you. You still don't know what you're doing. 614 00:33:05,017 --> 00:33:06,218 I told you last night 615 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:07,919 that I did not want to come here. 616 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:10,021 It's not a good time for me to be away from my family, 617 00:33:10,022 --> 00:33:12,724 not after I just went on TV and blew up my life. 618 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,094 Okay, okay. You didn't blow up your life. 619 00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:16,662 You're overreacting. 620 00:33:16,762 --> 00:33:18,597 - Okay. - It's a song. 621 00:33:18,697 --> 00:33:21,233 Uh, it feels like a confession. 622 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:22,201 I mean, 623 00:33:22,301 --> 00:33:23,602 did Johnny Cash really 624 00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:25,404 - shoot a man in Reno? - Oh, my God. 625 00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:26,871 Tyler, shut up. 626 00:33:26,872 --> 00:33:29,441 Whatever. We came here 627 00:33:29,541 --> 00:33:31,876 to confront him, so 628 00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:33,544 I confronted him. 629 00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:34,913 No, 630 00:33:35,047 --> 00:33:37,683 we came here to give him a chance to explain himself, 631 00:33:37,783 --> 00:33:39,184 and now we have nothing. 632 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,820 If this song gets out, we're fucked. 633 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,888 He didn't write it. 634 00:33:43,889 --> 00:33:45,091 What? 635 00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:46,958 Heather wrote it. 636 00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:49,595 That's what he's saying. Look. 637 00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:55,634 ...singing this song on the recording 638 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,535 and we just need you to explain. 639 00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,705 Elijah, if this song gets out... 640 00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:01,640 Wait, Elijah, wait. 641 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:03,541 That doesn't make sense. 642 00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:04,976 Okay... 643 00:34:05,111 --> 00:34:06,878 give me those lyrics. 644 00:34:08,114 --> 00:34:09,448 Thank you. 645 00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:12,784 Okay. 646 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:14,153 Uh... 647 00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:16,255 "She talks of new beginnings, 648 00:34:16,355 --> 00:34:17,756 "so I helped her reach the end. 649 00:34:17,856 --> 00:34:19,825 "Some days I feel sorry, 650 00:34:19,958 --> 00:34:21,660 but in Hell I'll make amends." 651 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,130 What, so Heather's writing about 652 00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:25,497 her own death 653 00:34:25,597 --> 00:34:28,733 from the point of view of her murderer 654 00:34:28,734 --> 00:34:31,270 before her death? 655 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,847 Okay, we have to look into it. I... 656 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:33,871 No. 657 00:34:33,972 --> 00:34:36,575 We have to look into Heather. 658 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:37,742 What? 659 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:41,180 We've been so focused on all the men 660 00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:43,315 that may have killed Heather that we 661 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:45,317 completely forgot 662 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:47,353 to get to know Heather. 663 00:34:47,453 --> 00:34:49,488 Oh, my God. 664 00:34:50,456 --> 00:34:52,791 I went on national television 665 00:34:52,891 --> 00:34:54,326 and I talked all about her, Ivy, 666 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,028 and I never... I never talked to any of her people. 667 00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:58,463 I never talked to her family. 668 00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:01,967 Her family believes that Elijah is guilty. 669 00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:04,336 There is no way they're gonna talk to us. 670 00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:06,405 We have to try. 671 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,811 Hazel! 672 00:35:15,481 --> 00:35:17,883 Any offers on the drawing? 673 00:35:17,983 --> 00:35:20,018 I haven't posted it yet. I'm not sure 674 00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:21,420 if I'm going to because... 675 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,620 Of course you are. 676 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,323 Here. 677 00:35:24,423 --> 00:35:25,957 Get your laptop. 678 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:27,193 What's going on? 679 00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:28,570 Summer, do you even listen to me? 680 00:35:28,594 --> 00:35:29,961 I told you Happy Face 681 00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:31,296 was trying to make bank 682 00:35:31,297 --> 00:35:32,564 off of her grandpa's artwork. 683 00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:33,664 That's pretty cool. 684 00:35:33,699 --> 00:35:35,201 How much can you get? 685 00:35:35,334 --> 00:35:37,369 Um, probably 200, 686 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,371 but I don't have a PayPal account, 687 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,540 and my dad checks all that stuff. 688 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,074 Oh, well, use mine. 689 00:35:43,209 --> 00:35:44,910 You don't even know her. 690 00:35:45,043 --> 00:35:46,612 Yeah, no, that's okay. 691 00:35:46,712 --> 00:35:49,314 Well, if she needs one, right? 692 00:35:49,315 --> 00:35:51,049 I have one, so... 693 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:53,051 You know, my parents give zero fucks 694 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,553 what I do anyways, so... 695 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:56,455 not a big deal. 696 00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:01,627 Okay, all done. 697 00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:04,230 And, um, yeah, you know, if it sells, 698 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:06,531 I can just hit up an ATM for you. 699 00:36:06,532 --> 00:36:08,234 You know, get your cash? 700 00:36:08,334 --> 00:36:09,368 Okay. Thanks. 701 00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:10,708 - Yeah, no problem. - Can we go? 702 00:36:10,802 --> 00:36:12,238 - Hmm? - I'm so bored. 703 00:36:12,371 --> 00:36:13,704 Yeah. 704 00:36:13,705 --> 00:36:15,374 Yeah, sure. 705 00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:40,898 Open D-160. 706 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:47,639 On your feet, Jesperson. 707 00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:18,136 You talk to my daughter like that again, 708 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,105 you see what happens. 709 00:37:20,906 --> 00:37:24,142 Who the fuck you think reported your phone? 710 00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:53,472 Your mom has, like, the best makeup. 711 00:37:53,572 --> 00:37:55,206 That's one good thing about her. 712 00:37:57,142 --> 00:38:00,379 So, what's the deal with Summer and Josh anyway? 713 00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:01,813 Are they together? 714 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:04,350 They've been on and off since, like, last year. 715 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:05,684 It's always drama. 716 00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:13,024 Holy shit. 717 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:14,760 The drawing sold. 718 00:38:14,860 --> 00:38:17,195 - Holy shit. - Oh, my God. 719 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:18,649 Thank you. Thank you so much. 720 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:19,830 Hi. 721 00:38:19,831 --> 00:38:22,267 We're just... we're here to see Denise. 722 00:38:22,368 --> 00:38:23,968 - Thank you. - Thank you. 723 00:38:23,969 --> 00:38:25,203 Thank you so much. 724 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:26,583 You all shouldn't be here. 725 00:38:27,406 --> 00:38:29,408 You've upset her enough. 726 00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:31,042 We're just here to apologize. 727 00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:32,678 Yeah. 728 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:42,588 You know, we all ain't pig farmers around here, right? 729 00:38:42,721 --> 00:38:45,490 We ain't got our heads stuck in the mud. 730 00:38:45,491 --> 00:38:47,325 So, you 731 00:38:47,426 --> 00:38:51,062 and your jackass "doctor" 732 00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:52,798 can screw off. 733 00:38:56,267 --> 00:38:58,003 I, um... 734 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:03,909 I don't have a clue what I'm doing, okay? 735 00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:07,078 I just went on the show 736 00:39:07,178 --> 00:39:10,081 'cause I thought it was the right thing to do. 737 00:39:10,215 --> 00:39:12,751 And... 738 00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:15,086 I wasn't thinking 739 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:17,355 about all the people that I could hurt, 740 00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:21,393 and I am so, so sorry. 741 00:39:25,163 --> 00:39:26,998 What's your excuse? 742 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,836 I believe Elijah's innocent, 743 00:39:30,936 --> 00:39:33,203 and I've been doing this long enough 744 00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:35,372 to know that you wouldn't agree. 745 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,708 Well, at least you're honest. 746 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:40,879 And you're right, I don't. 747 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:43,682 Will you tell us why? 748 00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:50,622 Soon as Heather started going with Elijah, 749 00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:53,825 she... changed. 750 00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,796 She started lying and stealing 751 00:39:57,896 --> 00:40:00,799 and smoking weed 752 00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:04,068 and staying out all hours of the night. 753 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:06,472 That sounds like some would consider that 754 00:40:06,572 --> 00:40:08,139 normal teenage behavior. 755 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,142 Is it normal to see bruises on your daughter? 756 00:40:11,276 --> 00:40:12,644 'Cause Elijah 757 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,380 was laying hands on her right from the start. 758 00:40:23,321 --> 00:40:25,422 Can I ask you one more question? 759 00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:26,992 I think Denise has had enough. 760 00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:30,361 I know. I know. 761 00:40:30,496 --> 00:40:31,663 It's, um... 762 00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:34,500 ...it's a song. 763 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:39,004 We think Heather wrote it. 764 00:40:47,145 --> 00:40:50,381 Did he write this? Look, what is... 765 00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:55,986 Get the fuck out of here. 766 00:40:55,987 --> 00:40:57,455 Sorry. 767 00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:04,795 God. 768 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:06,031 I'm sorry. 769 00:41:06,131 --> 00:41:08,534 No, I-I figured. I figured. I'm just... 770 00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:10,144 - I'm gonna go. - Hey, I don't have much time. 771 00:41:10,168 --> 00:41:11,036 What's up? 772 00:41:11,169 --> 00:41:12,070 Hey. 773 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,640 Hey, I got Ash's home address. 774 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:17,375 - What? How? - Renee sent me 775 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:19,545 her security footage. I got a full plate, 776 00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:21,547 so I called that cop to run it, okay? 777 00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:25,851 And it came back as Mourning Dove Lake RV Park. 778 00:41:25,951 --> 00:41:29,387 It's some shitty trailer park outside Eugene. 779 00:41:29,521 --> 00:41:31,523 Okay. So? 780 00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:34,225 So, when you come home, 781 00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:37,027 you can start the paperwork for a restraining order. 782 00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:39,397 Right? And then the cop just said you have to... 783 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,365 I don't want a restraining order. 784 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,069 The... the man was in our house, Melissa. 785 00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:46,336 He was in our backyard. 786 00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:48,217 - He-he could've hurt our kids. - But he didn't. 787 00:41:48,273 --> 00:41:49,817 He didn't hurt the kids, he didn't hurt me. 788 00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:50,921 We're fine. We're all fine. 789 00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:52,811 You know who's not fine? His mother, 790 00:41:52,911 --> 00:41:54,344 who my dad raped and murdered. 791 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:57,115 So maybe... maybe he's been through enough. 792 00:41:58,116 --> 00:42:01,319 I'm sorry, I'm sorry... 793 00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:02,754 Do I not get a say in this? 794 00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:04,556 I cannot talk about this right now, okay? 795 00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:05,957 I will call you later. 796 00:42:06,057 --> 00:42:07,897 No, no, no, do I not get a fucking say in this? 797 00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:21,006 What? 798 00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:22,808 You okay? 799 00:42:32,751 --> 00:42:35,385 All right, so we are confirmed 800 00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:38,456 to meet Heather's best friend Jackie tomorrow. 801 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,558 Uh, she didn't recognize the song. 802 00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:44,295 But she is willing to tell us about her. 803 00:42:46,998 --> 00:42:48,366 Hey. 804 00:42:49,935 --> 00:42:53,338 You were good with Denise today. 805 00:42:55,674 --> 00:42:57,776 - She was pissed, but... - Mm. 806 00:42:58,677 --> 00:43:00,211 ...you got her talking. 807 00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:07,018 All yours. 808 00:43:07,118 --> 00:43:10,656 Being a good producer is knowing every inch of your story. 809 00:43:10,756 --> 00:43:13,759 I never asked to be a producer. 810 00:43:13,859 --> 00:43:15,694 But you are now. 811 00:43:17,763 --> 00:43:20,631 And I get that this is emotional for you. 812 00:43:20,632 --> 00:43:23,769 - But at cert... - This isn't about me. 813 00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:25,704 This is about us 814 00:43:25,804 --> 00:43:28,073 retraumatizing other people. 815 00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:31,743 - So then it's about Ash? - Don't therapize me. 816 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,016 Look, um... 817 00:43:40,018 --> 00:43:43,621 My dad used to tell me that... 818 00:43:43,722 --> 00:43:46,291 the truth is the light. 819 00:43:46,391 --> 00:43:49,427 No matter how dark the path is that gets you there. 820 00:43:53,999 --> 00:43:56,500 You know every disgusting detail about my dad, 821 00:43:56,501 --> 00:43:58,904 and I don't know one about yours. 822 00:43:59,004 --> 00:44:01,239 He was a reporter. 823 00:44:02,207 --> 00:44:05,475 He started working for The L.A. Times 824 00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:07,644 just before the '92 riots. 825 00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:11,717 He covered sports, of course. 826 00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:15,152 Um, but he was one of the few Black reporters on staff. 827 00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:20,425 They all got sent down to Watts, and... 828 00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:26,597 ...he was calling in his stories on payphones 829 00:44:26,698 --> 00:44:30,534 while shit was literally on fire all around him. 830 00:44:30,535 --> 00:44:35,140 And the white reporters in the newsroom 831 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:39,044 typed that shit up and won a Pulitzer for it. 832 00:44:39,144 --> 00:44:41,112 - But it... - Oh, shit. 833 00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:44,082 Oh, evening, ladies. 834 00:44:50,621 --> 00:44:53,057 Bobbi Crescenzi. 835 00:44:53,058 --> 00:44:56,928 She was killed by her husband Jack, Oregon, 1992. 836 00:44:57,763 --> 00:44:59,931 Okay. So? 837 00:45:00,031 --> 00:45:02,267 So, thanks to what y'all put on TV, 838 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,303 the D.A. who handled the case reached out. 839 00:45:05,403 --> 00:45:08,974 Told me that not long after the husband was convicted, 840 00:45:09,074 --> 00:45:10,876 Keith confessed to doing Bobbi. 841 00:45:14,345 --> 00:45:17,015 There's no way that we missed that in our research. 842 00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:19,918 Well, the D.A. kept it on the quiet. 843 00:45:20,018 --> 00:45:21,853 He knew Keith's story was bunk. 844 00:45:21,953 --> 00:45:24,289 But he investigated, all the same. 845 00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,924 Found a man named Howard Wayne Coker 846 00:45:26,925 --> 00:45:29,160 who had served time with the husband in county jail. 847 00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,296 Later, he did a stint in the state penitentiary 848 00:45:31,396 --> 00:45:32,964 with Jesperson. 849 00:45:33,799 --> 00:45:36,434 Coker acted as a go-between. 850 00:45:36,534 --> 00:45:40,671 Offered ten grand to Jesperson to confess to doing the wife. 851 00:45:40,772 --> 00:45:42,340 Of course, he provided a few facts 852 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,343 to make the confession sound real. 853 00:45:45,476 --> 00:45:48,146 But the one thing he couldn't provide Jesperson: 854 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:49,746 hard evidence. 855 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,316 Oh... 856 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:54,352 You want me to reopen this case? 857 00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:56,753 Bring me hard evidence. 858 00:45:56,754 --> 00:46:01,792 Not trampolines or tree carvings or guitar picks. 859 00:46:01,793 --> 00:46:04,963 And not songs. 860 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:08,533 Hard, physical evidence. 861 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,236 Well, allow me. 862 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:15,173 Y'all have a nice night now. 863 00:46:30,721 --> 00:46:32,423 Three minutes. 864 00:46:53,311 --> 00:46:55,213 It's me. 865 00:46:55,313 --> 00:46:57,315 I'm in solitary. 866 00:46:58,316 --> 00:47:00,919 You got to try it sometime. 867 00:47:01,019 --> 00:47:03,588 I'm gonna need a new phone. 868 00:47:05,356 --> 00:47:08,426 There's something else I want you to do for me. 869 00:47:15,466 --> 00:47:18,402 My name is Jackie Mullins. I was Heather Richmond's best friend. 870 00:47:18,403 --> 00:47:22,473 I'm sorry I don't recognize the song, but like I said... 871 00:47:22,573 --> 00:47:25,343 Heather was funny about her music. 872 00:47:25,443 --> 00:47:27,111 Secretive. 873 00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:30,882 Could she have shared her music with Elijah, though? 874 00:47:30,982 --> 00:47:32,417 Possibly. 875 00:47:32,517 --> 00:47:35,420 Um, music was their bond, that's how they got close. 876 00:47:36,754 --> 00:47:39,024 She was gonna be a star. 877 00:47:39,925 --> 00:47:41,635 She was gonna move to Nashville, make it big. 878 00:47:41,659 --> 00:47:42,793 And I knew she would. 879 00:47:42,894 --> 00:47:45,496 Soon as she got over her stage fright. 880 00:47:46,264 --> 00:47:47,597 When she got in front of people, she would 881 00:47:47,598 --> 00:47:49,534 start shaking like a shaved cat. 882 00:47:49,634 --> 00:47:52,636 She figured if she smoked half a joint exactly, 883 00:47:52,637 --> 00:47:54,239 then she could perform. 884 00:47:55,306 --> 00:47:59,510 Not just a few puffs, or a full... full joint. 885 00:48:00,645 --> 00:48:02,180 Just half. 886 00:48:03,548 --> 00:48:05,816 She was crazy about that kind of thing. 887 00:48:08,153 --> 00:48:11,689 Do you think Elijah was, um, 888 00:48:11,789 --> 00:48:13,958 supportive of those dreams or do you think 889 00:48:13,959 --> 00:48:15,994 he was jealous? 890 00:48:16,094 --> 00:48:19,197 He was cool as far as I remembered. Um... 891 00:48:19,297 --> 00:48:22,033 He introduced her to this producer 892 00:48:22,133 --> 00:48:23,868 out of Dallas, where she recorded a demo. 893 00:48:24,002 --> 00:48:25,503 - A demo? - Mm-hmm. 894 00:48:25,603 --> 00:48:27,272 Could that song have been on it? 895 00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:30,908 Uh, maybe. I don't know. I never heard it. I don't... 896 00:48:31,009 --> 00:48:32,877 What was the producer's name? 897 00:48:33,011 --> 00:48:34,412 I don't remember. 898 00:48:34,545 --> 00:48:37,115 But I know he was a friend of Elijah's. 899 00:48:41,987 --> 00:48:44,389 I don't remember a... a demo, 900 00:48:44,489 --> 00:48:45,990 but I did introduce her 901 00:48:45,991 --> 00:48:48,559 to my boy Lucius. 902 00:48:48,659 --> 00:48:51,528 He was trying to be a producer back then, 903 00:48:51,529 --> 00:48:53,798 Lucius Banks. 904 00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:58,136 Any idea where Lucius is now? 905 00:48:58,903 --> 00:49:01,306 I heard he passed a while back. 906 00:49:03,374 --> 00:49:06,077 Sorry I blew up on you, by the way. 907 00:49:06,177 --> 00:49:08,613 I forget how to contro... 908 00:49:10,548 --> 00:49:11,949 My brain. 909 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:15,353 Shit don't work the same for me no more. 910 00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:17,355 No, I'm sorry. 911 00:49:17,455 --> 00:49:19,457 For the way that I... 912 00:49:20,391 --> 00:49:24,529 ...came here and-and asked you about the song. 913 00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:26,931 I-I should have let you explain first. 914 00:49:27,032 --> 00:49:28,666 It's okay. 915 00:49:30,701 --> 00:49:32,970 Can you explain to us now 916 00:49:33,104 --> 00:49:35,140 how you think maybe Heather... 917 00:49:35,273 --> 00:49:37,875 could have written that song or-or why? 918 00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:41,779 I went to this workshop years back. 919 00:49:41,912 --> 00:49:44,115 Um, this art therapy thing. 920 00:49:44,249 --> 00:49:45,683 You know, you could paint 921 00:49:45,783 --> 00:49:48,319 and write poetry. 922 00:49:48,419 --> 00:49:50,488 I grabbed a guitar when I saw it 923 00:49:50,588 --> 00:49:52,790 and I started fooling around with it 924 00:49:52,890 --> 00:49:55,026 and the guy running the thing said 925 00:49:55,126 --> 00:49:57,628 we're supposed to make art about what's got us in here, 926 00:49:57,728 --> 00:50:00,798 and he going on and on and on about guilt and remorse 927 00:50:00,931 --> 00:50:03,668 and about how we need to process that shit. 928 00:50:03,768 --> 00:50:06,003 And it just... it just pissed me off. 929 00:50:06,137 --> 00:50:07,472 'Cause I don't have no remorse 930 00:50:07,572 --> 00:50:10,141 and I didn't do nothing to get here. 931 00:50:11,476 --> 00:50:15,079 So, I cheated. 932 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,913 I copied, um, I... 933 00:50:16,914 --> 00:50:19,184 Uh, what's that word begin with a P? 934 00:50:19,317 --> 00:50:20,751 - Plagiarize? - Yes. 935 00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:24,055 Yeah, I plagiarized, from Heather, it was her song. 936 00:50:24,155 --> 00:50:27,425 She was finishing it that night in the park. 937 00:50:31,196 --> 00:50:33,763 I helped her with, you know, some of the chords, 938 00:50:33,764 --> 00:50:36,634 but the verses were all her. 939 00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:40,138 And I really don't know what it was about. 940 00:50:43,108 --> 00:50:46,111 Is there anything else you want to say about that night? 941 00:50:46,211 --> 00:50:49,647 We still haven't gotten a chance to hear your side. 942 00:50:52,383 --> 00:50:56,387 Yeah, there ain't much to tell, I-I... 943 00:50:57,888 --> 00:51:01,625 I rode my bike to the park around 7:00. 944 00:51:01,626 --> 00:51:03,628 We hung out, we played music. 945 00:51:03,728 --> 00:51:06,731 I smoked some weed, I gave her a joint. 946 00:51:07,532 --> 00:51:09,033 It was just... It was normal. 947 00:51:11,136 --> 00:51:13,771 Um, the last time I seen her, sh... 948 00:51:18,376 --> 00:51:20,044 Last time I seen her, she was sitting 949 00:51:20,145 --> 00:51:22,979 up on that jungle gym playing her guitar. 950 00:51:28,886 --> 00:51:31,456 Were you two exclusive? 951 00:51:32,657 --> 00:51:34,858 No, we were friends, man, 952 00:51:34,859 --> 00:51:36,927 we jammed out. 953 00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:38,763 Uh, sure, there were a couple times 954 00:51:38,863 --> 00:51:40,697 we got a little loose and hooked up? 955 00:51:40,698 --> 00:51:42,267 Sure. 956 00:51:43,734 --> 00:51:46,237 Hell yeah, she was cute. 957 00:51:49,174 --> 00:51:51,609 Smelled like grapefruit. 958 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:55,246 But it was all low-key. 959 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,881 It's funny, that's... 960 00:51:57,882 --> 00:52:01,786 that's what my dad said... that she smelled like grapefruit. 961 00:52:05,256 --> 00:52:08,159 Why in the hell did he wait so long? 962 00:52:11,529 --> 00:52:14,799 I've been in here 29 years, miss. 963 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,469 And he waits two months before I'm-a die? 964 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:37,955 - Oh, fuck. - What? 965 00:52:38,088 --> 00:52:41,459 Oh, please, tell me that the song didn't get leaked. 966 00:52:41,592 --> 00:52:43,294 No. Um... 967 00:52:43,394 --> 00:52:45,530 Somebody wrote an op-ed about you. 968 00:52:46,397 --> 00:52:48,599 Okay. That says what? 969 00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:50,401 That you... 970 00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:53,771 had an abortion when you were 15. 971 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,374 What? 972 00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:00,177 Oh, my God. 973 00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:01,979 Pull over. I ca... I-I can't breathe. 974 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,057 - Wait, what? - I can't breathe. I need to get out of the car. 975 00:53:04,081 --> 00:53:05,926 - Okay. I am pulling over. - Can you please, please pull over? 976 00:53:05,950 --> 00:53:08,430 - I am pulling over. Okay. Okay. - I can't... I got to get out. 977 00:53:14,925 --> 00:53:16,494 "Devil in the DNA: 978 00:53:16,594 --> 00:53:19,263 "Why We Shouldn't Be Surprised That A Serial Killer's Daughter 979 00:53:19,264 --> 00:53:23,901 Murdered Her Pre-born Baby." Are you fucking kidding me?! 980 00:53:25,169 --> 00:53:26,837 Nobody knows about this. 981 00:53:26,971 --> 00:53:29,840 Nobody knows about this. How could anybody ever find out? 982 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:31,676 Okay, I am so sorry. 983 00:53:31,776 --> 00:53:33,376 Things like this can happen when you step 984 00:53:33,478 --> 00:53:35,580 into the public eye, okay? 985 00:53:37,482 --> 00:53:39,850 It was Brendan, my ex. 986 00:53:40,718 --> 00:53:42,387 That's the only way he could have ever... 987 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,356 Okay, okay, look, we can call Dr. Greg's publicist. 988 00:53:45,456 --> 00:53:46,600 She can help you make a statement, 989 00:53:46,624 --> 00:53:49,226 or you can just ignore it. 990 00:53:49,327 --> 00:53:50,728 Mm-mmm. 991 00:53:50,861 --> 00:53:52,663 He lives in West Slope, Oregon. 992 00:53:52,763 --> 00:53:54,699 - Is that Brendan? - Mm-hmm. 993 00:53:54,799 --> 00:53:56,901 Okay, what-what do you want to do? 994 00:53:57,034 --> 00:53:58,636 I'm gonna call him. 995 00:53:58,736 --> 00:53:59,969 Now? 996 00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:03,408 Okay, Melissa, hang on. You-you can't just... 997 00:54:08,979 --> 00:54:10,781 What the fuck? 998 00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:32,803 I do remember him, yes. 999 00:54:34,071 --> 00:54:37,608 He came up to me after the sermon 1000 00:54:37,708 --> 00:54:40,445 and asked if I could help rid him of spirits 1001 00:54:40,578 --> 00:54:42,580 that were following him. 1002 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,214 Spirits? 1003 00:54:44,315 --> 00:54:48,218 I prayed over him a long while. 1004 00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,287 He was very emotional. 1005 00:54:51,055 --> 00:54:53,257 Do you remember when this was? 1006 00:54:53,358 --> 00:54:55,626 It was three or four months later 1007 00:54:55,726 --> 00:54:58,396 that I saw his face on the news. 1008 00:54:58,496 --> 00:55:00,631 He was the Happy Face Killer. 1009 00:55:00,765 --> 00:55:04,033 Had to be winter of '95, then? 1010 00:55:04,034 --> 00:55:05,770 If you say so. 1011 00:55:06,771 --> 00:55:10,007 I just remember the whole thing made my heart so heavy. 1012 00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:15,179 And, of course, I worried about the boy with him. 1013 00:55:17,214 --> 00:55:18,449 What boy? 1014 00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:20,951 That's part of what made him so memorable. 1015 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,589 A lot of truckers come through here, but I'd never 1016 00:55:24,689 --> 00:55:26,089 seen one bring a boy. 1017 00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:28,393 Can you describe this boy? 1018 00:55:30,094 --> 00:55:33,130 Early teens, I suppose, but... 1019 00:55:33,263 --> 00:55:34,632 big for his age. 1020 00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:37,735 Uh, shaggy hair. 1021 00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:39,570 A bit sullen. 1022 00:55:40,605 --> 00:55:42,507 That's Shane. 1023 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,274 My brother. 1024 00:55:44,375 --> 00:55:46,495 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 1025 00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:55,052 ♪ She walks around pretending ♪ 1026 00:55:55,152 --> 00:55:59,424 ♪ She don't know who I am ♪ 1027 00:56:01,726 --> 00:56:05,695 ♪ Her fear of me is building up ♪ 1028 00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:08,265 ♪ About to break the dam ♪ 1029 00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:13,369 ♪ I know I said I didn't do it ♪ 1030 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:18,375 ♪ But the truth is that I did ♪ 1031 00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:24,181 ♪ Was it worth it? ♪ 1032 00:56:24,281 --> 00:56:28,118 ♪ Oh, baby, that depends ♪ 1033 00:56:28,218 --> 00:56:31,956 ♪ She talks of new beginnings ♪ 1034 00:56:32,056 --> 00:56:33,591 ♪ So I helped her ♪ 1035 00:56:33,691 --> 00:56:37,361 ♪ Reach the end. ♪ 67648

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