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- My name's Donald M Ware, I
was born in Richmond, Virginia,

raised in Arlington.

I attended Duke University.

I got a first degree in
mechanical engineering in 1957,

and commissioned into the
Air Force the same day

through the ROTC program.

I didn't know whether I
wanted to be an engineer,

or an Air Force officer,

so I took a one-year
delayed active duty

and went to North American
Aviation for 10 months,

and decided I'd rather
fly the airplanes

instead of working on them.

I was working on the
F-100 flight test program

heat and vent system,

and so I kind of lucked out
when I got into pilot training,

because I put my name
in the pot for 100's,

and we only had three
100 slots in the class,

and I got one of them.

So, after 10 years
of flying fighters,

they were gonna
convert me to F-111's.

This pin, this rather
strange pin that I wear,

is probably, describes one
of the most important things,

going on on this
planet right now.

I think these little
guys are Zeta Reticulans,

that, many many of the
abductees, UFO abductees,

see in their secret nightlife,

if you want to call it that.

And I'm absolutely convinced,

from everything I've seen
over the past 52 years,

that there is a
long-term program

to upgrade our
biological computer.

Anybody who knows
anything about computers,

knows you have to upgrade your
computer every now and then.

I think we're getting
a bigger hard drive,

a faster chip, and a new
USB port for telepathy.

And let me show you
what I think you get

when you combine the genes

of these two species.

I think this is, although
not named by Time magazine,

but this Homo
alterios spacialis,

higher human from space,

and these are our offspring,

our children that have
to be hidden from us,

until the consciousness
of our neighbors changes,

and is willing to accept them.

This picture was shown
to millions and millions

of people on ABC.

They didn't say
anything about it,

but they put this picture
into the consciousness

of Americans at least, and
eventually the world, I think.

One more time.

You know you have to
be somebody special

to get your face on the
cover of Time magazine.

This is a promo
issue, 23 June, 1997,

for the Roswell
50th anniversary,

Roswell crash 50th anniversary.

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Certainly there is a coverup,

and all UFO researchers
recognize that
Project Blue Book,

the most public coverup,

was just the government's
public relations agency.

They did announce to the
world they wanted to know

about our UFO
sightings as stuff,

but the cases that
were really worthwhile,

and could not be explained away

by some natural
or manmade object,

were not investigated
by Blue Book,

they were passed on to
the real investigators.

And I'm convinced that

the US Office of
Naval Intelligence

was the office of
primary responsibility

for ground activities associated
with the alien presence.

And the reason is,

because their bases
were in Navy territory,

not in Air Force territory,

although we see them
more in the air,

these things could come and go

from the air down to
the water, no problem.

Read books like

Wendell Stevens' book,

Contact From Undersea.

It's a very interesting story,

it was 1979 when

Filiberto Cardenas was pulled up

a blue beam in broad daylight
with three of his friends,

taken to a little island.

This wall opens up, he gets
into a little flying saucer,

and he goes out over
the water very fast,

down through the water.

The water didn't
touch the vehicle,

ended up in a garage down there,

where there were a bunch of
flying saucers and stuff.

And the head alien
down there told him

there were 700 working
out of that base,

and there are lots of other
bases underground and undersea.

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That first time I
just saw red lights,

that were about as
bright as Venus would be

at its brightest, maybe
a minus 4.5 magnitude,

but they were wandering
around in random oceans,

and obviously not aircraft
or celestial objects.

And my thought was, gee
is this what I read about

last Sunday morning
in the newspaper,

because the Washington Star

had 'flying saucers'
in the headlines.

So nothing more was happening,

so I, after about 10
minutes of watching,

so I went on to bed, it was
approaching midnight by then.

I got up early the next
morning to get the newspaper,

and sure enough, again, second
Sunday morning in a row,

the words 'flying saucers'
was in the headlines.

The aliens put on a
demonstration to the exent

that the media
could not ignore it,

and the government
couldn't cover it up.

Let me get back to
that earlier question.

Can you imagine any president,

whether it be, Bush or
Clinton or whatever,

standing before the
public and saying,

yes, I am aware that we
have this joint program

with some aliens,

to upgrade our
biological computers,

to build better bodies
to house our souls

in future incarnations.

And we are picking up your
daughters, and your wives,

and we're taking their eggs,

we're splicing in
the right genes.

Some are a subspecies
that look more like us,

and their human mothers
are allowed to raise them,

but those that don't
look enough like us

to fit in with our
society are taken

at three to three
and a half months,

they're about that long.

We put them in artificial wombs,

then we pick up
the mothers again,

and we take them in and
allow them to hold them

within their aura,
to nurture them.

We pick up the grandmothers
sometimes for the same purpose.

He said, they can't talk
about things like that.

If any president made
that kind of statement,

then, because they pick them up,

and they'd have to put
the altered egg in there,

and they pick them up again.

He wouldn't be able to do
the job we hired him to do.

The media would
hound him to death.

It would be ridiculous.

So I understand the
reasons for the secrecy.

I spent 26 years
in the Air Force,

and I know if the
government has a secret

they really want to keep,

they don't admit that
they have a secret.

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Okay, I was fortunate,

I had a chance to
talk to Peter Jennings

for his ABC special,

and the first question
he asked me was,

what caused you to be
interested in this subject?

When I was 16 years old,

I was walking down the street
in Arlington, Virginia,

and saw seven red-light
type UFO's over Washington,

that made headlines
around the world.

And since then I have
seen eight alien vehicles

on eight occasions.

It was that, just
that, three seconds,

"alien vehicles on
eight occasions,"

that got on the ABC special.

But that started me to
become a true seeker,

on 26 July, 1952.

I read everything I
could find about UFO's,

and the alien
presence, since then.

At 17, I went to Duke,

read everything in their
library on the subject.

American Rocket Society had
the most interesting stuff.

Went to the Air Force, 26
years as a fighter pilot,

staff scientist,
teacher, program manager.

Got a masters in
Nuclear Engineering,

retired at age 47,

with 100% of my time to do
whatever I wanted to do,

and enough money to do it.

So the day after I
retired officially,

I became a field investigator

and state section director
for MUFON, for five counties,

in western Florida.

The next year I became
state director for Florida.

In '89, I was elected to be
the eastern regional director

of MUFON, overseeing the
investigative activities

in 18 eastern states.

Then in '93, I became
a director of the

International UFO Congress.

Since '82, I have been attending
six conferences a year,

on the average, of
many different types,

that involved expanding
consciousness and UFO's.

Things like International
Transpersonal

Association conferences,

in Killarney, Ireland,

noetic sciences conferences,

international conferences on
science and consciousness,

and I heard about
these things called

State of the World Forums,

that were put on by a
fellow named Jim Garrison,

with the State of
the World Forum,

who is also President of the
Gorbachev Foundation USA,

and all the world
leaders were coming

and basically
trying to figure out

what kind of a planet
we want to live on

in this 21st century.

And I never got an invitation,
you had to get an invitation

to that real select group.

I was on a birding
trip in Attu Island,

because I'm a serious birder,

and I was discussing
government affairs

in the evening hours when
we weren't out birding,

with a gentleman
from Point Reyes,

who is also interested
in government affairs,

and I told him about the
State of the World Forums,

and he'd never heard of them.

It was some miracle I think
that caused an invitation

for him to attend the
State of the World Forum,

the sixth and last one,
held in New York City

in conjunction with the
UN Millennium Summit,

to be in his mailbox.

And he didn't want to
go and he knew I did,

and he just put it
in the mail and said,

why don't you go in my stead?

So, when the package got there,

he filled out the
registration form,

and there's a place for title,

and I put, Director,
International UFO Congress.

When I got there I
was quite impressed.

There were about 1500
people trying to figure out

the best ways to
manage globalization

so that the selfish
didn't gobble up the meek

and destroy the environment
that supports us all.

I got to participate
in the round tables

on democratizing
world government,

on getting more spirituality
into the United Nations,

and that kind of thing.

Actually when it
came my turn to talk

in that World
Governance Conference,

I suggested the people
trying to decide

how to get from where we are

to a democratically
elected world government,

ought to read three books.

And I mentioned Timothy
Good's book, Above Top Secret,

because it describes one
or two major UFO cases

in many different countries,

and how that government
reacted to it.

And I said they should read
Bud Hopkins' book, Witness,

because this is a
very good description

of not UFO's coming here and
saying, take me to your leader,

but UFO's coming here and taking

the Secretary General
of the United Nations,

and putting a guilt trip on him,

for humanity
polluting the oceans.

And the third book was called,

it was actually Paper
72, in the book called,

the Urantia book, A
Revelation for Humanity,

published in 1955,
on 2096 pages.

The title of the paper was,

Government on a
Neighboring Planet,

and it said at the end, the
reason they gave us that,

was because there were
ideas expressed there,

that would be useful on
our planet at this time.

Well that conference,
being an attendee,

allowed me to put a webpage

on the exclusive State of
the World Forum website,

only accessible to those
people who attended

the six State of
the World Forums,

which includes most
of the heads of state.

It apparently got the
attention of the president,

because about a year later
I received a phone call

from his vice president,

saying, Jim Garrison would
like to speak with you,

and I said it's gonna
have to be this afternoon,

or three weeks from now,
because I'm going to Thailand,

and three weeks later, they
called at the appointed time.

A lovely lady named
Carmen Milendra said,

well unfortunately Jim got
called out this morning,

and she talked to
me for about an hour

about all the wild things,

the ideas that I've acquired
at all these conferences,

and so I started
sending her emails,

and occasionally some
of the papers that I had

written over the many years,

and she told me later
that she was forwarding

all these to Jim Garrison,

and it's papers about
telepathic communications,

and UFO phenomenon,

and one was on transformation;

spiritual, physical,
and political.

I'd written papers on
PAZ, the world government,

all the subjects related
to the UFO phenomenon,

that I'd studied one at a time,

and I'd spoken on for a year,
then written a paper on.

And he must have not been

too disturbed by what
I was saying because,

he sent me an email invitation

in, I think it was May of 2003,

to be one of the 150 people

invited to the Brussels
Conference, 18 to 20, June, '93.

The title of that
conference was,

National Sovereignty
and World Challenges:

Choices For the
World After Iraq.

I was to attend as the Director

of the International
UFO Congress,

which I thought was
kind of interesting,

when you see the titles of all
those other 150 participants.

The conference was chaired
by Georges Berthoin,

who from 1975 to 1992
was the European Chairman

of the Trilateral Commission.

The speakers were people like

Air Marshall Sir Timothy Garden,

who is the head of
the Royal Institute

for International Affairs,

that's similar to our
Council of Foreign Relations

in the United States.

And Pat Cox,

the head of the European
parliament, I guess.

Just lots of other
interesting people.

The President of
the International
Chamber of Commerce,

and James Woolsey and,

really neat folks.

So, unfortunately,

well they were sending
me background information

that said, well
after World War I,

we formed the League of Nations.

That, to keep peace in the
world, and that didn't work,

so after World War II we
formed the United Nations,

and that didn't work.

Now that we've had
the first two battles

of world war three, meaning
Afghanistan and Iraq.

So obviously the
Security Council

can't maintain
peace in the world,

and NATO can't even
maintain peace in NATO,

it's time for a change,

and they were talking
about something called,

Community of Nations,

and I had a prior
commitment on those dates

that I just could not break.

As much as I wanted to
go to that conference,

I told him, I'm sorry,

I just can't break
the commitment,

and so he said, no problem.

Why don't you make
your input by email?

So I did,

and I was really, I
felt honored, when
after the conference,

he sent me a draft of
the output document,

and asked for my
comment on the draft.

The draft title was, Integral
Governance Initiative,

and it outlined, or described

the 20 most important
problems of the world.

I think they decided
they're so critical

they don't have time to
even rewrite the charter

of the United Nations to
be able to effectively

address those problems,

so they're gonna do it,
one problem at a time,

with the same technique
that they used

on the landmine ban treaty.

Lord Axworthy, the Foreign
Minister of Canada,

with backing of the
Canadian government,

in not more than about
two years, got 140 nations

to sign that treaty.

So I'm excited about the works,

that State of the World
Forum is now working on

to address the
problems of the world.

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- The aspects I'm
going to add is the

presidential involvement
in the Roswell thing,

and the first president
I'm gonna talk about,

is Harry Truman,
and his involvement,

and I spent a number of
years trying to track

where Truman was at the time,

where, how he knew all
this sort of stuff,

and very little, because
the presidential records

weren't kept the
same as they are now,

there's a lot of blank spots,

a lot of stuff wasn't recorded.

When I came to this convention
I learned a lot of stuff

that I really hadn't known
yet about the timelines,

following the generals.

And the one story
I've sort of added,

which is I think
a critical story,

is the fact that there
was a number of people,

Roswell witnesses,
who claimed that they

were sworn to secrecy
by the president.

So what I'd do
with each of those,

I'd take the name of the
person I would check it against

the presidential record.

And with the
presidential record,

if you've met with
the president,

if you've spoken
with the president,

on the phone, or if you've
corresponded with the president,

that's all recorded.

You can take you name, and see
how many times this person,

and none of these people
were really checking.

Then what happened was a
reporter out of Florida,

who does the UFO
story, is Billy Cox,

did a story about Ben Games.

Ben Games was a
guy who had a PHD,

was a Major in the Air Force,

very prominent type guy.

I come forward and
told him the story

that he had flown
in General Craigie,

who was development of all the
new aircraft, in that time,

out of Wright Patterson,

and he claimed that he had
flown Craigie into Roswell,

at that particular time
when this was going on,

and that Craigie had got
into one of Blanchard's cars,

and had taken off and
said make yourself scarce,

I'm gonna be busy,

and really didn't tell
what was going on,

so Games went to
the officers' mess,

heard the story of
people telling about

this crash that had
just taken place,

and bodies, and
this sort of stuff.

And so when Craigie comes
back a number of hours later,

he said well, fly me to
Bolling Air Force Base.

He's gonna meet
with the president.

And according to Games,
Craigie never told him

what had happened, what
he had been involved with,

but his boss was

General Lemay,

and there was always
rumors that General Lemay

actually maybe had
been at Roswell,

was very involved
in this whole thing.

So anyway, so when I got this,
then I was really curious,

like all these people
are bing sworn to secrecy

by the president, but
the presidential record

really didn't show any
involvement by the president.

They had shown that
the president had been

asked the UFO question, and
there's only two presidents

who have actually been
asked the UFO question

in a news conference,
and one of them occurred

two days after the Roswell
news release on July the 10th,

and the problem was, they
asked the wrong question.

They asked him, have
you got any insights,

and he said, only what
I read in the newspaper,

and the press dropped it.

I wanted to find out, so
what I did is I contacted

Tom Carey, who is
one of the people

on the latest Roswell book,

and their research
is just incredible.

I saw their lecture yesterday,

and only twice in 35 years
have I ever had a feeling

that this thing may
actually break open,

that this thing may, there
may be enough evidence

to actually end the coverup,

and yesterday I
had that feeling.

The other time I
had that feeling,

was in 1978 when I
saw Len Springfield

lecture in Dayton, Ohio,

when the first mentions
of the dead alien bodies,

when he started talking
about dead alien bodies.

But a very impressive sight.

I contacted Tom
Carey, and I said,

well there's these
witnesses who are saying

that the president
swore them to secrecy,

but I can't find any record
in the presidential library

that these people ever had any
contact with the president.

So Tom wrote me back and said,

well it wasn't the president,
it was the secret service

that was swearing
people to secrecy.

So I said, well do
you got any names?

So he gave me two names,
and I still remember,

I went and I know
how to check this,

I went to the
presidential records,

and I started to check,
and I can still remember

when I found it,

and it was like the
shivers went up my back,

it was unbelievable.

The name he had given
me was Gerald McCann,

M-C-C-A double N.

Gerald McCann had been
swearing people to secrecy

in Roswell at the time,

on behalf of the President
of the United States.

And sure enough, Gerald McCann
was a secret service agent

from 1944, till
Truman left office.

Now if you find out after that,

whether he was with Eisenhower,

you'd have to go
to the Eisenhower,

but it just was unbelievable.

No witness would have
been able to make up

and guess a name like that.

So that's one of the
stories I'm telling here,

is this story, the Truman story,

that you get, even
60 years after,

you can find a lot of
material that really

was never around that shows that

we are on the right track,
this actually did happen.

The second president I
talk about when I'm here,

in connection with
Roswell, was Ronald Reagan.

And Ronald Reagan was
fascinated with the UFO subject.

He had, that I document,
two UFO sightings.

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Ronald Reagan was the type
of guy, he was an actor,

he knew where to stand,
he knew how to do things

with backdrops and
stuff like this.

And if you remember, he
went to the Berlin Wall

to make a speech.

"Gorbachev, tear
down this wall."

And when he was president,
he asked Steven Spielberg

to come to the White House,

and in the White House theater,

they screened ET,
The Extraterrestrial.

And one of the stories,
I checked this,

I went to the library
and got one photograph,

they'd only released
one photograph,

during that

screening.

According to a producer by
the name of Jamie Chanderay,

Steven Spielberg
told him in Japan,

that near the end, Reagan
had leaned over and said,

I bet you there aren't six
people in this whole room

that know how true
this whole thing is,

and Spielberg was shocked.

And since then, a number of
people, Billy Cox, myself,

numerous people have tried
to contact Spielberg,

to get him to
confirm this story.

Did Reagan tell you this?

And it's only in the
last year that I've got

a second confirmation from,

and I haven't been
told the name,

but a major Hollywood
producer, who claims, yes,

he saw my website,
they went to it,

and they said yes,
Steven Spielberg told
me the same story.

So anyway, Steven
Spielberg shows this movie,

ET: The Extraterrestrial,
this is in June of 1982.

Three months later,

and you'll have to remember,
the Roswell book came out

in '79-'80, by
Moore and Berlitz.

So the Roswell story was
pretty popular back then,

and here, Ronald Reagan,
three months after seeing ET,

suddenly appears at
the Roswell airport,

and right in front of Hangar
84, he makes a speech.

He's speaking with Schmitt,

who was the, Harrison Schmitt,

who was the Apollo 17 astronaut,

and he makes an ET joke,
he makes a joke about ET,

at the beginning of the speech.

Colin Powell, had numerous
times told stories,

and he told a
presidential biographer,

that Reagan was always trying
to talk about ET in speeches,

and his job as security advisor,

was to try to keep the
stuff out of the speeches.

This is in writing,
where he said this.

So Reagan makes this speech,

in front of the Hangar 84,
and it's typical Reagan.

He gets it out there,
and was fascinated.

The third president I'm
gonna talk about here

is I think the most important
when it comes to Roswell,

and that was Bill Clinton.

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And Bill Clinton,
he had a meeting,

a discussion with Paul Davis,
the producer of Roswell,

and he told Paul Davis
right to his face,

I'm fascinated with this stuff.

And his involvement
was kind of lengthy.

What had happened there was,

at the beginning of
his administration,

he was interested, and
I had given a lecture

in Eureka Springs, Arkansas.

And I had a woman come up to
me at the end of the lecture,

and it was one of these
things where I said,

can you promise to write me?

She was an older lady,

very respectable older
lady, and she said,

I can tell you why the Clintons
are interested in UFO's.

And I said, well tell me.

She said, well my sister
owns a famous restaurant,

that the Clintons hung out in.

And I said yeah,
and she said, well,

what happened was, and I'm
not sure whether it was

Bill and Hillary,

or somebody very close
to Bill and Hillary,

but when they were at the
restaurant they saw something.

So Bill and Hillary had
this interest in UFO's,

and they got into
the White House,

and as the stories
have been told,

they got Webster Hubble, who
worked with Hillary Clinton

at the Rose Law
Firm, in Little Rock,

and he said, if I put you
over there in Justice,

he made him Assistant
Attorney General,

he said, if I put you
over there in Justice,

I want you to do
two things for me,

find out, number
one, who killed JFK,

because he was
fascinated with JFK,

he had thought he
was the second JFK,

and he said, are there UFO's?

So he had this thing started,

where he was trying to
get the information.

I had one researcher
told me that he would

drag admirals into
the room and say,

tell me what you
know about UFO's,

and the admiral would
sort of look at him like,

what planet are you from?

I don't know what's going on.

And so Clinton was interested.

And then what happened
was, Lawrence Rockefeller,

who was a billionaire,

and he was the
Rockefeller brother who
was the humanitarian.

He was the guy was,

he had a philosophy
degree from Princeton,

was very much into the ecology,

he was into paranormal
phenomena, this sort of stuff.

And he decided, whoever the
next president's gonna be,

whether it's Bush or
whether it's Clinton,

he's going to go and get
this guy to disclose.

So when Clinton gets elected,

Rockefeller makes his
way to the White House,

then as he told researchers,
like Bud Hopkins,

he was just gonna go
tell the president,

and Bud Hopkins says, well
that's not how it works,

you can't just go and tell
the president to disclose.

And what happened was, he
was cut off at the pass

by the science advisor.

They stuck him with
the science advisor,

who was John Gibbons,
Doctor John Gibbons.

And so he went
into John Gibbons,

he said I think we
need disclosure,

and John Gibbons because
he's a big Democrat,

fundraiser, he's
got lots of money,

he can't just sort of
sluff this guy off.

So he said okay, well
what do you want us to do?

And he said, well it's
a massive conspiracy,

all this is going on,

and you gotta get to
the bottom of this,

and so Gibbons, and
what happened was,

during the Clinton
administration,

I filed a Freedom of
Information Act request,

with the office of Science
and Technology Policy,

which is the office
of the science advisor
to the president,

and because one other
researcher had filed,

Bruce McCabee, and
he'd gotten 500 pages.

So I said, well I'm
doing the process,

I want to see these 500 pages.

So when my request came
back, I got a thousand pages,

so this whole story
of what is now called

the Rockefeller Initiative,

is detailed in these
thousand pages of documents.

So, this story is
told in the documents,

about Rockefeller coming in,

and describing the fact
that it's a massive coverup.

And Gibbons writes back to him,

and talks to him and says,

well if the conspiracy is
as deep as you say it is,

and is classified
as you say it is,

we'll have no chance to get
to the bottom of this thing.

What we should do, is
let's just take one case,

let's get that
case declassified,

and then we'll go
after the rest of it.

And so Rockefeller, I
guess thinks about it,

and writes back and says,
yeah okay, we'll take Roswell,

and that's why, in the
Clinton administration,

when it first started, the
Clintons put out the order,

and a lot of people say
it was the Air Force,

or it was through Schiff,

but Clinton had a lot of power
to green-light this study.

So the US Air Force was told

to go and reinvestigate Roswell.

So they start the investigation,

and they go and
they do their thing,

and one of the things that
Rockefeller had asked for,

was clearance for anybody
who was going to talk,

that they wouldn't
be prosecuted,

and in 1994, there was
actually a document put out,

which said that anybody,
a witness from Roswell,

could bypass their
security clearances,

and could talk about it, and
they wouldn't be prosecuted.

So they get the report,
a preliminary report

for the Roswell study
was put out in 1994.

The final report was
put out in late 1995.

The report comes back, and
Clinton gets the report.

Now this we know by sort
of putting pieces together.

He goes to Belfast, Northern
Ireland, and he makes a speech.

And he's lighting
the Christmas tree,

this is November the 30th, 1995,

and in this speech,

there's a letter-writing
competition in Ireland,

for kids to write
letters to the president.

Now the two kids who won the
letter-writing competition

were sitting on the
stage with Bill Clinton,

but he didn't read their letter.

He read a letter,

and I went to the
Clinton library

when they released the files,

two years ago, and I
asked, where's this letter?

And they can't find it,

which makes me wonder
whether the letter

actually was made
up by the president,

and what is important
to note is that

anything that goes into
a presidential speech

is there for a reason.

I've studied enough
presidential speeches,

I know every single
word is checked.

A state of the union
address will go through

30 different drafts.

Every agency has to sign
off on that presidential,

so if it's in a speech,
it's there for a reason.

And if you see the actual clip,
when Clinton releases this,

he's reading it very carefully,

he's reading it from a script,

he's not off the
top of his head.

And what happens was,

they don't read the two
letters from the kids

who won the letter-writing
competition,

who were sitting on
the stage with Clinton,

they read a letter from Ryan.

And what Clinton says is, Ryan,

if you're out there in
the audience tonight,

here's the answer
to your question,

no, as far as I know,

a UFO did not crash in
Roswell, New Mexico.

But if they did recover bodies,

they didn't tell me about
it, and I want to know.

Now the reason he said that,

and this clip came out and
nobody really picked it up,

was the first Roswell
report released in 1995,

didn't talk about the bodies,
had no mention of the bodies.

And what Clinton is doing,

is he's saying,
I read the study,

and you didn't talk
about the bodies.

You explain to me what happened,
what's with the bodies?

So the Air Force goes out and
does a second Roswell report.

That's why there's
two Roswell reports.

So in 1997, they released
a second Roswell report,

called Case Closed.

And there's the one
where they talk about

dropping the dummies
out of the plane,

and this the people
mis-identified,

they got the dates screwed up,

and that's the explanation
for the bodies.

So this report goes back
and it says to Clinton,

here it is, here's the
answer to your question,

here's the answer to the bodies.

And so Clinton just
gives up on it,

although Rockefeller
does go to the Clintons,

and he's getting frustrated,

he's going back and forth
to the science advisor,

and one of the interesting
things to note is,

he's always got this letter,
that Rockefeller's drafting.

It's a letter on disclosure
to the president,

it basically outlines what
he wants to get across.

And a number of people
helped him edit the letter.

One was John Gibbons,
who is science advisor,

and there's actually in
the presidential file,

there's actually, you
can see the handwritten

notations from Gibbons
on the columns,

making recommendations, change
this, do that, whatever.

One of the people he'd asked
to edit it was Billy Graham,

and Billy Graham didn't
really want to get involved,

because he said,

I've dealt with a
lot of presidents,

and I agree with your issue,

but I really don't
want to get into it.

But the other person who
helped edit the letter,

and we actually have a
document that verifies this,

was Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton looked
over this document.

So here's Hillary
Clinton, the first lady,

editing a letter on UFO
disclosure to the president.

And Rockefeller's
getting very upset.

Every time he wouldn't
get what he wanted,

he'd say okay, I think it's time

to write the letter
to the president.

And then they go,
oh no no, hang on,

and they would do
whatever he wanted to do,

and so they tried to help him.

So in '95, I guess
Rockefeller gets upset,

and he decides he's
going to the president.

He wants a meeting
with the president.

So, the president goes
to Rockefeller's ranch,

and this is in 1995,
before the 2006 campaign,

and what happens
is, Clinton is seen

as sort of an elitist type guy.

He hangs out in Martha's
Vineyard for his holidays,

and stuff like this.

So what they do is,
they agree to send him

to the Rockefeller ranch,
because it's back country,

Wyoming, and he's gonna
go white water rafting,

and he's gonna go
camping, and Clinton said,

like Dick Morris talks
about, he hated it.

He absolutely hated it, he
didn't want to go there,

he had no intention of
camping and stuff like this,

it just wasn't his lifestyle,

but because they saw the
swing voters in 1996,

as being people who
were techie people,

or people who were
into the environment,

he had to appeal
to those people,

those would be the swing voters,

and that's how he had
to win the election,

so he sent them there,

and Rockefeller
sits down with him,

and he does a personal
briefing, it's not a briefing,

but it's a citizen, and he
goes through a pile of material

that was provided to
him by Steven Greer,

documents and stuff like this,

and Bill and Hillary
both sit and listen

to the whole thing,

they really don't say anything,

and then according
to what Rockefeller

told Whitley Strieber,
the next morning

Hillary came up and said,
okay we've listened to you,

don't ever bring up
the subject again.

And so the subject
sort of dies out there,

but Clinton has talked
about Rockefeller,

about Roswell a number of times,

and a couple of times
he's talked about it

when the question really
didn't have anything

to do with UFO's.

He was asked on a radio
talk show, out of Houston,

and the more famous
one is one that's

just been put on the internet,
and it's still not public,

this was the one that
we got Neil Gould,

who out of Hong Kong,

I've been trying to get
this for a number of years,

this conversation, or it was
the answer to a question.

He had been, I think
it was to a bank,

he'd been giving a speech
to a bank in Hong Kong,

and he had answered this
question about UFO's,

and I had gone to
the Clinton library,

and they sent me
to the Foundation,

and the Foundation really
wasn't answering my letters,

and I was trying to go.

And so this thing is not public,

it was gotten, Neil Gould
went and found somebody

who was there, and they
provided him a copy,

but it's still not public.

And in this, the guy
asks him a question,

I guess he must have been
one of the powerful people

who set the thing
up, and he said,

well as I have the
position to do this,

I'm gonna ask you the question.

He said, do presidents
actually pass secrets

from one president to another,
like you and Jimmy Carter,

or you and Bush.

Is there a set of secrets

that get passed from one
president to another?

For example, where's
Jimmy Hoffa's body?

Or, what happened at Roswell?

And Clinton starts laughing,

and he starts
talking about this,

and he said, yes I'll tell you,

he said, you remember
Roswell, you remember

the big anniversary
that happened in 19,

he says 1998, but it was 1997.

Thousands of people from all
over the world came there,

and people are
fascinated with this,

and he said, I'll
admit I actually tried
to look into this,

and I tried to get the
documents and stuff.

And then he starts
talking about Area 51,

and he doesn't mention Area 51,

because you're still not
supposed to use the term,

but what he said was,

there's a lot of people
in my administration,

who thought that Roswell was
garbage, that it wasn't true,

but a lot of them really
believed that there was

actually an alien,
and a spaceship,

at this military base in Nevada,

and he's talking about Area 51.

So he said, I actually sent
someone there to check it out.

And he said,

that we found out it was just
a military establishment,

where they're doing top
secret Air Force work.

And then he goes again
to talk about Roswell,

that he really doesn't
think Roswell happened,

and he thinks there's
explanations for it.

But on a couple of
other occasions,

it still shows that he does know

and he's still very interested.

For example, there's the
famous story about Paul Davis,

has had a long
involvement with Clinton,

and Paul Davis' involvement
was that his father

was a professor at
Georgetown University,

and taught Bill Clinton.

So what happened in
19, this would be in

1996, Paul Davis took
all the Roswell material,

he took his Roswell
movie, and he took a bunch

of different stuff,
the Roswell book,

and the first Roswell book,

and he sent it to the president,

and he got an overnight letter
back from the president,

saying, thank you
for the material,

didn't mention what
the material was,

thank you, I really appreciate
it, and I liked your father,

and this sort of stuff.

So this goes,

and then what happens is,

the Monica Lewinsky
thing breaks out,

in late '96, '97 or whatever,

and the FBI does a study.

They do an investigation,
and what they're doing,

is they're looking for
a book called, Vox,

and this was the phone sex book,

that Monica Lewinsky had
sent to the president.

So they're looking
for this book,

and they get I guess a search

to go into the president's
personal library

inside the Oval Office.

And they pull all the books,

and they put out the
inventory of the books

that were in the library,

and they do find the Vox book.

And the strange thing was,

the book right next
to the Vox book,

was UFO Crash at Roswell.

So Clinton had it in
his personal library,

and then, so what
happened was, Paul Davis,

this is going back
to just last year,

Hillary Clinton's
running for president,

and the latest Roswell book
by Carey and Schmidt is out.

So he decides, the president's
gotta read this book.

I've got to him
before, and he decides

in the Hamptons, there's
a fundraising breakfast

for Hillary Clinton.

And he decides, I'm
going to this fundraiser,

I'm gonna give this
book to Clinton,

and I'm gonna talk
to them about this.

So he doesn't know
if the Secret Service

are gonna stop him at the door,

because he's carrying
a package of course,

and security and stuff.

And he said it was very strange,

he walked right in, and he
takes pictures of himself

with Hillary in the background,

to prove that he
was actually there.

And it was at a 15
million dollar estate,

and Paul Davis when
he told me this story,

and he's told it publicly,
said that they told him,

he said, I want to
speak with Clinton,

and they said,
here's what you do.

Bill will speak first, Bill
will stand up and talk.

And once Bill's
finished talking,

Hillary's gonna
come up and talk,

and as soon as Hillary's
finished talking,

Bill will be sitting at the
back along these windows,

then you go and talk to Bill,

because everybody's gonna
be going after Hillary

and asking her questions,
and it'll be distracted.

So that's exactly what he does.

He waits, Hillary finishes,
the applause starts,

and he goes and he sits
down beside Bill Clinton,

and he pulls out the
Roswell material.

And he puts the Roswell book
in front of Bill, and he says,

and it had the cover up,
and he said, he can still

remember Bill looking
down at this Roswell book,

and looking at this
subtitle about the coverup,

and he just looked
up and he said,

you know I'm fascinated
in this stuff,

and I'm gonna read this.

And so we know he
was fascinated in it,

for whatever reason, and he

green-lighted a
number of studies.

The other thing that
he green-lighted,

that a lot of people
don't know is,

his first CIA director
was James Woolsey,

and James Woolsey, and this
is according to Steven Greer,

and we're trying to check this,

but James Woolsey
doesn't talk anymore.

He and his wife who is a very

high-ranking scientific person,

in Washington, in
the late 1960's

had a daylight UFO
sighting in Maine.

Was it Maine?

It was on the east
coast there somewhere.

And Steven Greer had
spent three hours

with the CIA director
at a dinner party,

and had been told this,
and this sort of stuff.

And Steven Greer is
pressing the CIA director.

And a lot of people say it
wasn't a significant meeting,

Greer and this
story, and whatever,

and I personally have requested
because we have a book.

I have personally
requested interviews

with these various people,

and one of them was
the CIA director,

and I got a phone call back
from somebody in the CIA office,

saying, well very interesting
project, we wish you well,

but we're not gonna
do an interview.

So I know anybody who sits
down the the CIA director

for three hours, I don't
care if you're talking about

knitting or what
you're talking about,

if you sat with the CIA
director for three hours,

that's important.

So, the CIA director
said to him,

Greer said, we
need this released,

we need to have disclosure,

and Woolsey made a very
important statement, he said,

how can we disclose
what we don't control?

And so Woolsey puts out a
request for a new CIA study,

and Greer meets with
him in December of 1993,

and this study did come out.

Now, Woolsey didn't
stay around very long.

I think he left in
late '94, early '95,

he was only there for
a couple of years.

He resigned, but this study
does come out in 1997,

and it's a study on, a
new UFO study by the CIA,

and it talks about the 50
years of UFO investigations,

and it's the one that
comes out and says that

most of the UFO's
people are seeing,

were misidentifications
of U2, or SR-71's,

and stuff like that.

So they whitewashed the study,

but it was a study that was
initiated by James Woolsey,

and I think Clinton, as
well, green-lighted this,

because there was a
lot of different people

in the Clinton administration,

who seemed to be
involved, and seemed to be

pushing different issues,

and different things
were coming out,

and Clinton was very
interested in openness.

He did have a close
association with John Podesta,

who was his Chief of Staff.

And under the Clinton
administration,

with John Podesta's help,

they actually went into an
openness thing, where they said,

the rumor was that they were

trying to get the UFO documents,

by pushing all
the documents out,

and the UFO documents
would come out with it.

And what they said, and this
was an executive order in 1995

by Clinton, that basically said

to the intelligence agencies,

that if the document is
more than 25 years old,

it has to be released,

unless you've got a
really good reason,

and the onus was on them

and if that there was a
question as to whether

they should release
it or not release it,

it should be released.

The public should
get the upperhand.

So they disclosed this, and
what a lot of people don't know,

is that the Clinton
administration

declassified 800
million pages of files

during their administration.

So it's a situation,
and the problem was

that none of the UFO
files came with it,

with a lot of stuff.

And Clinton, one of the
stories was that Clinton

had tried to get it,
and hadn't got it,

and one of the stories
was that it was his

psychological profile,

that he had evaded
the Vietnam War,

he had been going to school

in Great Britain,

and the first issue he had
when got into the White House,

was to put gays in the military,

which caused an insurrection
in the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

and one of them
actually spoke to him,

and said that he totally
disagreed with this.

So Clinton was seen as
sort of left-wing guy,

that you really
couldn't trust him,

and that was always the story,

that they they
wouldn't tell Clinton,

because he couldn't
keep his mouth shut,

and one of the things
that Clinton did,

when these files
were coming out,

is he actually did open his
mouth about another incident,

and that was the
plutonium thing,

where they were putting
radioactive material in food,

and stuff like this, and
this story broke that the

intelligence agencies had
been doing this kind of stuff.

So, Clinton was the type
of guy, he was very open,

and even now, when
people ask Bill Clinton

a question about UFO's, he
doesn't walk away from it.

Most presidents, most
high-ranking people,

will sluff the question off.

Bill Clinton will
actually talk about it,

but if you listen
very closely to him,

you get the idea that he still
is not telling the truth.

For example, when
he was in Hong Kong,

part of the answer
to his question was,

the guy said, when he
answered the question,

the guy came back
and said, well,

is there a list or
isn't there a list?

And he said, well you know,

if there was, I'm probably
not the first president

they lied to,

or that bureaucrats
have waited out.

And he said, if there is some

bureaucrat holding
these files, somewhere,

they evaded me, and I'm
almost embarrassed to say

I tried to get to
the bottom of this.

So Clinton is an
interesting guy,

and I think if somebody
respectable were to get Clinton,

and to actually confront him,
and do a half hour interview,

I think you'd get
a lot of material,

because Bill is pretty open.

Even Larry King had
stated, and this is 1994,

and we haven't found what
the answer to it was,

Larry King had a UFO
sighting in 1972.

He was working
for the Minnesota,

or the Miami Dolphins,
and had a UFO sighting,

and he had been at
Roswell in 1994,

or at Area 51 he was,

and they were doing
a show on Area 51.

He did an interview with
MUFON, and in that interview,

he had said, he told
about his sighting,

and then he also said that,
I'm friends with Bill Clinton,

and Bill Clinton
doesn't like secrecy,

and I'm gonna ask Bill Clinton.

We've never been able to get
to Larry King, to ask him,

did you ask Clinton, and
what did Clinton tell you?

So, he's a very
interesting president,

and he's one of the guys that
tried to get to the bottom,

and wasn't able to.

The other one that tried
to get to the bottom

of the whole thing, and wasn't
able to, was Jimmy Carter.

(dramatic orchestral music)

Now as you know, Jimmy
Carter, his involvement

came from the fact that
he had a UFO sighting,

and the date given was 1969,

but I've talked to an archivist
at the Carter Library,

who went to school with
Jimmy Carter's son,

and he said it was earlier.

He said,

his son had told him the story,

and he's sure it was earlier.

Anyway, because he
had this interest,

and he had had a sighting,

in 1973 he actually filed a UFO

form where he detailed what
had happened, signed the form,

and it went, I can't remember,

it was a group out of
Oklahoma that he filed with.

So when it comes to
him being president,

he's running for president,

and on two different occasions,
he talks about the fact

that if he becomes president,

he will release the UFO files.

And so, once he gets
into the White House,

and I went through his files,

and a lot of people have
been through his files,

to try to detail it,

there are a number of
initiatives that he does.

For example, most
people may not realize,

the FOIA material that we
have, the UFO material,

almost all of the
material that we have,

was released under the
Carter administration.

The FBI files, the CIA files,

the defense intelligence files,

thousands and thousands of
pages of files were released.

And Jimmy Carter had
the same sort of stance

as Bill Clinton, that
if there was a toss-up,

as to whether to release
it, it should be released.

So a lot of this material
was released under him,

and he sent a bunch of people

to try to figure out
what was going on.

His press secretary,
who was Jody Powell,

went to the FBI, and tried
to find out from the FBI,

how do you file UFO sightings?

What do you have?

All this sort of stuff.

And the other one he
had, he went to NASA,

and Frank Press I think
was the science advisor,

had gone to NASA, and they
wanted a new investigation.

They wanted NASA to take up
a new investigation of UFO's,

the same as Blue Book had done.

And of course,
what had happened,

some of the background was
that Carter had come in

and he'd done some things he
probably shouldn't have done,

and one was I think he
cut five billion dollars

from the NASA budget.

So, in one hand he's
cutting their budget,

and in the other hand he's
giving them this PR nightmare,

to take on the UFO thing,

and NASA was very hesitant,

but there's a lot
of correspondence
going back and forth,

about whether they were
going to do this study,

and then there was a document,

a letter or whatever it was,
came from the CIA, to NASA,

which basically said,
do not touch it.

It said, don't touch it.

And then they called it off,

and went back to the
president and said,

no NASA doesn't want
to do the study.

But Jimmy Carter, his
problem I think was

that he came in, and
like Bill Clinton,

he wasn't really
interested in intelligence,

and he fired a
bunch of CIA people,

and he was in a situation
where he really wasn't trusted,

and I think, almost
like Bill Clinton,

there was a group that was
always trying to get him out,

and I even heard this when
I went to the library,

to the Carter Library,
they told me the story that

when Carter went in, and
the same thing happened

to Bill Clinton, they
came from the South,

and they ran as
outsiders in Washington,

so Jimmy Carter for
example wore short sleeves

when he was campaigning,
which presidents never do,

you always had your suit on.

He'd take his suit off,
he had short sleeves.

He wanted to be the outside
guy, he'd take his tie off.

I'm one of you, I'm not
a Washington insider,

the same as Clinton had
done, and so the problem was,

and I've always said, if
you're a Washington outsider,

and you win the election,

don't be surprised if
you go to Washington,

and find out that the
people who have the power,

the money, and the
knowledge, don't talk to you.

And that's what
happened to Carter,

and even the
archivist told me that

there was a lot of comment.

It was like, who does
this guy think he is?

These people walk
around in bare feet,

and eat with their hands,

referring to people
who come from Georgia.

And this guy's the president.

So there was this
backlash, plus they would

bring all their people
in from Georgia,

in terms of Carter,

and Clinton brought all his
people in from Arkansas,

and these Washington insiders
really didn't like it,

in fact, you probably recall,

when Bill got into
a lot of trouble

with the Monica Lewinsky thing,

Hillary Clinton
was walking around

talking about the vast
right wing conspiracy,

who was trying to get
rid of the president,

and I remember at the time
I sort of laughed about it,

and then after, I'm thinking,
maybe she had something,

maybe she was talking
about this inside group,

these powerful people,

who are actually
sabotaging the president

on every initiative.

So Carter had the problem,
same as Bill Clinton,

that he was a
Washington outsider,

and he really couldn't get
to the bottom of the thing.

And there's a number of stories

about a briefing
that he was given.

It was a Secret Service agent,

I think it was a
Secret Service agent.

There was a researcher who
had been told the story

about the Secret Service agent,

that Jimmy Carter
had been briefed,

and that Jimmy Carter
was totally broken up

by what he had heard
in the briefing.

Even one part that
he'd been crying.

And so I heard the tape,
and this guy's still around,

and he was actually
appointed by Bush,

as a top person going into Iraq.

So he was still a guy
that was pretty powerful.

They went back to him
and he denied the story.

He said no, he told stories
about things that had happened,

but no that didn't happen,

I wasn't in this briefing
with Jimmy Carter.

It's always been very
hard because the records

have always been
kept very secret,

as to which presidents
have been briefed,

and which presidents haven't.

(dramatic orchestral music)

The only thing I know for sure,

I can guess at a lot of
stuff that Truman knew,

and that Eisenhower knew.

The only thing I know,

and they still haven't
released the name of the guy,

but I had a close
friend who talked to me

until I talked about this,

and he said, you can't
keep your damn mouth shut,

and I said, well you
know, like, whatever,

because it was supposed
to be confidential,

but people doing ufology,
they'll send you stuff,

and tell you to keep it quiet.

But it was an important
thing, and that was,

that he had talked
to two presidents,

and he had come to me looking

for Jimmy Carter's phone number.

And he had already talked,
and he was tracking,

one of the big stories
I've always tracked

is the Holloman Air
Force Base film.

And the rumored story was,
and this was part of the story

that had been told
about Jimmy Carter,

by this Secret Service agent,

was that part of the
briefing for Jimmy Carter

was a 15 minute color film

of the Holloman Air
Force Base landing,

and it was very
important, and it seemed

to back up the fact that this
guy was telling the truth,

even though he denied it later,

because this friend
of mine had told me,

he was looking for Jimmy
Carter's phone number,

he'd already talked to Ford,

and he had talked
to Bush senior,

and they had both
confirmed to him,

he'd asked them about briefings,

and they both confirmed to him

that they had seen the
Holloman Air Force Base film.

And the Holloman
Air Force Base film,

is a story that Bob Emenegger,

and I know Bob
Emenegger very well,

I've talked to him, been
with him numerous times,

heard the story 20 times,

is a story that happened in
the Nixon administration,

where they were
green-lighted a study,

and they were basically
given access to everybody,

everybody talked, all the
Blue Book people talked,

and they were given a film,

and they had it in
their possession.

They had this film, and it
purported to be a landing.

There was three
crafts had come in.

They had the film
cameras all set up

at Holloman Air Force Base.

They knew these
things were coming in,

and the one came down,
the other two stayed up,

and it landed on tarmac,

and a bunch of high-ranking
officials came,

the aliens came out of the
spacecraft, all being filmed,

and then they walked down
the tarmac to a building

on Mars Avenue, at
Holloman Air Force Base,

and they had a meeting, or
whatever they did there.

And so Bob Emenegger
had this film,

and these two presidents
claim to have seen this film,

and this is what this fellow
was actually researching.

So he asked, for
example, he asked Ford,

and that's the key
thing is the briefing.

He asked Ford, he said,
when were you briefed?

And Ford said, I'm
not gonna tell you.

Don't even go there,

I'm not telling you
where I was briefed.

And that's the whole thing is
if you give the briefing date,

then you've got
something to work with,

then you know what
room they're in,

because the presidential
record is all there.

And you can tell
who was in the room,

you know who the
people to press,

and you can force
the briefing out,

but until you know
when the briefing is.

So it's always been hard to
determine who got briefed,

and who didn't get briefed.

(dramatic orchestral music)

Now when it comes
to Barack Obama,

Barack Obama has
faced the UFO question

on three different occasions.

And the first occasion that
Barack Obama faced the question

was after one of Steven
Basset's X files conferences.

The Washington Post went to
all the different campaigns,

when Barack Obama
was campaigning,

and asked them are
you going to end

the ET embargo on information?

And Obama's spokesman said,

we're more interested
in ending the

embargo on information
coming out of Iraq.

That was the first time,
the second time was

in October of 2007.

Barack Obama was at a
debate in Philadelphia.

This is the famous
one where Kucinich

is asked the UFO question,

and Kucinich confirms
that yes he did

see a UFO at Shirley
McLain's house,

and it was a UFO,
what's the big deal?

The very next question,
they go from him,

from asking a
question of Kucinich,

to Obama, and they
asked him a question,

all the astronauts of Apollo 11,

all have said that they
believe there's life

outside of Earth,
what's your position?

And Barack Obama says,
I really don't know,

and I don't pretend to know.

What I do know, is there's
life here on Earth,

and we're not taking care of it,

and then he goes
into the whole speech

about the people that
have to be taken care of.

So he avoids the question.

Then, he's asked,
and we believe,

we haven't tracked it down.

We have the video, but we
believe it's a Chicago reporter,

asked him the question,
says Mister Obama,

if you get to the White House,

and you discover
that there are ET's,

and the people haven't been
told, will you tell the people?

And he says, well it depends
what the aliens are like,

whether they're
Republicans or Democrats.

So he basically evaded it,

and then I guess
there's one other story.

A lot of people, Steven
Basset had done a campaign

to send letters to
the White House,

on a lot of different
issues, and Barack Obama

put up this change. gov site,

where people would ask
questions and stuff.

There were a lot of people
asking UFO questions,

and they now have a website,

the White House
opened a website,

where people can give their
opinion, and what they want,

and so a lot of people
are asking UFO questions.

Now the woman that's
running the website

is Becky, I can't
remember her last name,

but is running the site,

and she actually does
describe the fact

that people who are
asking UFO questions,

or other questions, can
talk among each other,

which kind of
amazed me, it's like

the reason we're putting it
on here is for you to read.

We talk among each
other all the time,

we don't need to talk
among each other.

And the one thing that she said
which was very discouraging,

because the two big issues
that have been brought up,

people asking questions, are
the legalization of marijuana,

and the other one is,

where is Barack Obama's
birth certificate?

So this woman, and she's
out of the White House,

said, the most
popular issues aren't

potentially the most important,

which basically says,
even if UFO people

write millions of letters,
and it gets there,

just because you have the
most number of requests,

doesn't mean it's
an important issue

and we're gonna answer it.

So that's where it goes.

Barack Obama is kind of a

guy who's more interested
in other stuff.

There's the very interesting
connection with John Podesta,

who was the X files guy in
the Clinton White House,

and I know from people who
have talked to John Podesta,

and the main one
being Leslie Cain,

who says that she
does not believe that

John Podesta has brought it up,

and will not bring up the issue,

that they've got
other things to do,

and so it sort of dies there.

You think well,
it's not an issue

that they're really
gonna look at.

(dramatic orchestral music)

This comes to how I became
involved in the president.

I saw a number of UFO's,

I was involved in a
flap of UFO sightings

in Carmen, Manitoba,
Canada, in 1975,

two weeks after the
end of the Vietnam War.

I had my first sighting,
this was near missile silos

in North Dakota, the minuteman
missile three missile silos,

and I believe that
the missile silos

had been on alert because
of the Vietnam War,

and the UFO's suddenly appeared.

Because I'd asked
people in the town,

like why are they coming to
our little town in Canada,

this middle of nowhere?

And I'd had a
number of sightings

and what I did was
I wrote a manuscript

called, Tales of
Charlie Redstar.

And I'd put it out and
really the publishers,

some of them read it,

and I remember the
local publisher,

who should have done it,

it was a big story
where I came from said,

you may believe in this stuff,

count me among the unbelievers,

and that was my rejection
letter to my manuscript.

So I had the
manuscript, and I said,

well this is something
that I got to get,

I've seen it, I know what it is,

and this is the

the title of James Fox's new
movie, I Know What I Saw.

And I've told people that 150
times over the last 35 years,

I know what I saw.

Don't argue with me,
because I know what I saw.

I was 50 feet away at one
point, of one of these objects.

But anyway, so I
knew what I saw,

and knew that it was
probably extraterrestrial,

that this was something,
my father was a pilot,

my son's a pilot, I'm not
stupid, I know what I saw,

and I want to get an
answer to this thing.

So when I got all the
rejections on the manuscript,

and everybody just sort of
listened to my sightings,

and said, oh that's kind of
interesting, what else is new?

I decided to go after
the Canadian government,

and went after the work
of Wilbert B Smith,

who had run the Canadian
government program

from 1950 to 1854.

I talked to him, I
pulled all the documents,

and he'd hidden
the documents away.

Before he died, he told
his wife, hide the files,

the government's coming.

The Russians came,
the Americans came,

and the Canadians came, all
trying to get the documents.

Started breaking into the house.

I recovered the documents,
I found out where they were,

filed the documents.

And we came up with
the famous document

that David Rudiak had
talked to you about.

The top secret document,
UFO's, or flying saucers,

he never used the word UFO's,

he knew it was a term
developed by the US Air Force

to throw people off.

He always called
them flying saucers.

Flying saucers exist.

It's two points higher

than the hydrogen bomb
in classification.

It's the most highly
classified subject

in the United States,

and there's a group
headed by Vannevar Bush,

who is looking into it.

And I went there and I found
out that the was a contactee,

that he actually claimed
to be talking to them.

We went through all this stuff.

There was a bunch of other
people that were involved,

in contacting them.

In particular, a woman in Maine

who had been contacted by the
FBI, Canadian intelligence,

Air Force, White House.

The same woman
that he was using,

and they all had contact with
an alien by the name of Afa.

So anyway, I filed all that
material, put it all away,

and it was very fascinating.

A lot of people were very
fascinated to find out

that the Canadian government
was really into this,

and actually believed
that this was going on,

and that the guy
in charge of it,

actually claimed to
be talking to them.

And that material,

led to his meeting at the
Canadian embassy in Washington,

where he got all this material.

And the guy he got it from
was Doctor Robert Sarbacher,

who was a military
advisor to the Pentagon,

and years later, Stanton
Freeman went back

and found out that this
guy was still alive.

This is late 1982, 1983,
so Stanton talked to

Sarbacher and said, did you give

this material to Wilbert Smith?

And Sarbacher said, yeah
I recall giving it to him,

and so he said, well
why was it classified?

I have no idea, he said.

I have no idea why they
classified it so high.

And he said, well how
did you know about this?

He said, it was a
series of briefings

at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base.

Something had
crashed in the west,

and a bunch of scientists,

and I was invited to go
out there to briefings

that they were giving to
the top military people,

or the scientists,
they were basically

scientists and engineers.

And so Stanton says, well
name the guys, who went?

You didn't go, because
he said he had been busy

up in Canada working
on the due line radar,

and he couldn't go, but he
said, who went, who went?

And he would name
off Vannevar Bush,

and he said, well he's dead,

and Bronc, and he would name
all these different people,

and Stanton says, can you name
anybody who's still alive?

And he says, well there's this
one guy from Pennsylvania.

I don't remember his name,
but he's real arrogant.

He thought he knew everything.

And a bunch of researchers
came up with the name

of Doctor Eric Walker.

Now this material
was my second book,

which was the first book
that MUFON published,

and it didn't go
anywhere because MUFON,

it was an internal book, you
couldn't buy it on the street.

So MUFON published
a thousand copies,

a thousand copies were sold,

and it really
didn't go anywhere,

and what it basically is, is
this guy, we tracked him down,

and his name is
Doctor Eric Walker.

He was former President
of Penn State University,

the Ivy League
engineering college

at State College, Pennsylvania.

He'd been president
there for 17 years.

The president before
him, who had given him

the job as president
was Milton Eisenhower,

who was the president's brother,

who went, left State
College, or Penn State,

to go and work for
the president, to
advise the president,

and Walker took over.

And Walker knew everything.

He was the type of guy
that when you phoned him,

couldn't hang up the phone.

So what we would do is, there
was a bunch of research,

I was the head of a
team of researchers

who contacted Walker,
from all over the world.

And everybody said, I
can get him to talk.

And that wasn't my
thing, okay fine,

and I would get all the
transcripts of people

talking to him and sent
them letters, and stuff.

And Walker's the type of guy

who wanted to play
with the subject.

He didn't want to
talk to you about it,

and he couldn't
hang up the phone.

People would get
him on the phone,

and he would try
to talk around it,

but when you put all
these transcripts

and all these letters together,

you could actually determine
what he was talking about,

and a lot of times
he did confirm.

For example, we asked
him about MJ-12,

and he confirmed yes, I've
known of them for 40 years.

Look, you're up against the
windmill, leave it alone,

there's nothing you
can do about it.

And that was like days after
the MJ-12 document came out.

He basically confirmed, I've
known of them for 40 years.

That was 1987,

if you take it back, it's 1947.

So we published this
material in a book.

And Walker was
contacted by a reporter.

We figured this is
gonna break the coverup.

It was so dramatic,
this material,

and this was such a
highly respected guy.

He had actually been an
Assistant Secretary of Defense

at one point in
the United States.

So, the reporter went,
and for the first time

Walker hung up the phone.

He said, I deny it,

it's not true, and sorry I'm
busy, and hung up the phone.

So I said to my co-author,
who was a journalist there,

I said well, is she going back?

What's gonna happen?

He said, no she's
not going back.

And that was it, nobody
ever interviewed him again,

and the story sort of died.

So what happened then was,
I was looking for his files.

He was the Executive Secretary

of the Research and
Development Board,

which David Rudiak had
been talking about.

This is this top level group

that developed weapons
in the United States,

and he was the
Executive Director,

so when the director wasn't
there, he was the head guy,

on developing weapons
at the Pentagon.

He was at the E ring,

he was in the main
part of the Pentagon.

And he had promised those
files to the Truman Library.

So that's how I got into
the presidential thing.

I was going after
Walker's files.

So I went to the Truman Library,

and they didn't have the files,

and so while I was there I said,

what have you got on UFO's?

And they said, well we've
got a couple of documents,

and they named a couple
of pages, whatever,

and I thought this
is kind of strange,

this is pretty important stuff.

And about maybe 150
miles down the road

is the Eisenhower
Library in Kansas,

so I was down there, and I'm
a long way from anything.

So I decided to go to
the Eisenhower Library,

and I went to the
Eisenhower Library,

and you actually have
to do an interview

to research there.

So they're doing the
interview with me

about what you're going
to research, whatever,

and so went into the UFO's,
and they pulled the files,

and there was five documents,
30 million pages of files,

in five documents.

And at that point I said,

this is the most important
subject in the world.

This is the most powerful
guy in the world.

The two have to go together.

There has to be a connection.

And I started at
that point, saying,

what does the most important
powerful guy in the world

know about the most
important subject?

And that's what
led me going from

library to library to library,

and what I basically
found, in a lot of cases,

is there's really nothing there,

which either means
nothing happened,

or the president didn't know,

or they're able to
keep the files secret,

they're there but they're
keeping them secret,

which I don't think is
one of the possibilities,

because over the
years as I've been

to the presidential libraries,

I've gotten to know a
number of the archivists,

and I don't think the archivists
are covering the thing up,

because for example the one
guy at the Carter Library,

had heard the Jimmy
Carter story in 1967,

he was extremely interested.

We sat in the archives two
hours after the archives closed,

talking about UFO's.

So these people are
very interested,

and he would actually
send me material

that I hadn't even requested.

He's say, I found this,
and he would send it to me.

But the thing was that there's
very little in the libraries,

which leads to the
question of Bill Clinton,

I'm probably not the first
president they lied to,

or the bureaucrats have
tried to keep in the dark,

which leads to the thing, is
there a second government?

(dramatic orchestral music)

One of the main stories
that's very interesting

about the inner
government, is the story

that Steven Greer says that
Sarah McLendon told him.

And Sarah McLendon was a
long-time White House reporter

from the 1940's, on, and
she took Steve Basset's,

or not Steve Basset,
but Steven Greer,

she was close with him,
she was trying to help him,

and so she went
to the president,

she went to Clinton, she said,

why don't you do what
these people are asking?

Why don't you disclose
what's going on?

And according to Sarah McLendon,

Bill Clinton leaned
over and said, Sarah,

there's a government
inside the government,

and I don't control it.

And that sort of fits in

with what Hillary
Clinton was saying,

to the vast right
wing conspiracy,

that's giving Bill problems
with all of these scandals,

and that's what behind it,

and so there is this issue,

and it is sort of supported
in presidential files,

that either nothing happened,

or the president doesn't
know what's going on,

because in the
presidential library,

not only do you have
millions of pages of files,

you also have, the
more important thing,

is the oral history.

And oral histories is,

things something like
what you're doing.

They have a guy that's
going to film, or tape,

anybody who leaves
the White House.

You're a cook in
the White House.

Okay, what was it like to be
the cook in the White House?

Did you ever meet the president?

And go through
this sort of stuff,

and these people would
just talk off the record

about what it was like to
work in the White House,

what it was like to be
Secretary of Defense.

Did they have this major
event that happened to you,

what was the inside story?

And they would talk,

and for example at the
Lyndon Johnson Library,

there's a thousand
oral histories,

and some of these, for
example at the Truman Library,

you can actually
word-search them,

and there's no
discussion of UFO's.

So you can cover up the record,

you can cover up the documents,

but can you cover up
people in just open talk,

talking about this kind of
stuff, because there is one,

and that was Truman's air aide,

the guy who was the
head of Air Force One,

before they called
it Air Force One.

It was his aide
to the Air Force,

was brought in, and
he tells the story

that he had seen UFO's.

That he was at the 8th
Air Force in Hawaii,

during World War II,

and that they had had
these foo fighter,

things appearing on
radar, that they had seen.

And he talks about when
he got to the White House,

he was called in to the
White House by Truman,

and Truman says, I want
you to go to the CIA,

and I want you to gather
all this stuff from the CIA,

and I want you to
brief me, orally,

not in writing, but orally,

on what's going on with
this flying saucer thing.

And according to
Landry, General Landry,

he said he briefed the
president every three months,

and we figured out from
'48, February of '48

when he took over, to the end,

he probably had 16,
17 briefings on UFO's.

But Landry talks
openly about it.

So why wouldn't people in
the Clinton Administration,

or the Johnson
administration, talk about,

oh Johnson was
interested in UFO's,

and this happened, that
happened, and it doesn't,

which means it really, unless
they're very secretive,

it really didn't get talked
about, it's not an issue.

And that's the problem, this
situation with Barack Obama.

They're so busy, people
don't realize how busy

the president is, he's up at
six o'clock in the morning,

and it's like photo op,

and then it's make
these phone calls,

push for a bill,
to get this across,

and then you've got
a cabinet meeting,

and then you've got this,
and then you've got that.

And it's minute by minute,
the presidential record,

that they go through.

They haven't got time,

and that's why the
briefing is so important.

They don't have time
to read anything.

They're briefed by people.

Someone will come in,

and they know there's a question

coming on a certain subject,

they'll go and give
a 15 minute briefing,

to bring the
president up to speed,

because he doesn't have
time to do anything.

So it's a very

interesting place
to research, to see,

and to see that the records
are important if we get a lead.

For example, the famous story
that I talked to Dick Cheney,

that was in the
Bush administration,

where they had
claimed that they were

going to release the UFO files.

Charles Huffer, who
was a researcher,

had been told by Bush on
a number of occasions,

yes I'm gonna release
the UFO files.

Here's Dick Cheney, he's
Secretary of Defense.

He knows, he's a smart guy,

and then he said it will be
the first thing Cheney does

when he gets to the White House.

So of course when he
got to the White House,

nothing happened,

then a couple of months later

he was on the Diana Rehm Show,

a Washington talk
show that sometimes

has high-ranking people.

Hillary Clinton
has been on there.

All of these people
have been on there,

and I decided I'm
gonna phone in,

and I actually got on,
the first caller on,

I said, Mister Cheney, in
all your jobs in government,

have you ever been briefed
on the subject of UFO's?

And if so, when was it,
and what were you told?

And there was a pause,
and Cheney said,

if I had been briefed
on that subject,

it would probably be classified,

and I wouldn't be
talking about it.

And he'd been caught off guard,

because nobody ever
asked him the question.

And so what happened was,
then Diana Rehm came,

but by then he had
caught his footing.

She said, well Mister
Vice President,

have you had any UFO meetings

since you got to
the White House?

And he said no, I've
had no UFO meetings

since I got to the White House.

So he caught himself,

and then he got a bunch
of Haliburton questions,

and he was furious at
the end of the interview,

he said, well you've got
some real wild callers today.

He was not happy about
what he'd gotten,

and I don't think he really
appeared on a talk show

for years after that,
he was so upset.

And that to me is
the critical thing,

is if a person gets a
high-ranking official,

whether it's a four star general

like David Rudiak talked to,

or whether it's a vice
president or a president,

you don't want to ask them,
what do you think about UFO's?

You don't want to ask them

did they see a UFO?

You only want to ask
them one question.

Were you briefed?

When were you briefed?

And what were you told?

Because the briefing
is the official thing

that we're all looking for.

If you're the President
of the United States,

the most powerful guy.

If they know there's a
question on UFO's coming,

they're gonna sit
the president down,

and they're gonna say,

they're gonna bring in the
top intelligence people,

they're gonna gather
all the best information

they have on the subject,

they're gonna bring the
people into the room,

that guy into the room,
and he's gonna say,

Mister President, here's
what we know about UFO's,

and that's what you want,
that's the only truth.

The rest is all disinformation.

What you want is what they're
telling to the president,

unless they're lying
to the president,

which is another possibility.

(dramatic orchestral music)

Speaking of Paul
Hellyer, there's a
very interesting story,

and this ties in with the
Wilbert Smith research.

We knew about Paul
Hellyer years ago.

We were bugging him about UFO's

long before he became public,

and the two people who were
bugging him was Arthur Bray,

he was a researcher
in Ottawa, Canada,

and he was the guy who got
control of the Smith files.

They were trying to
hide the Smith files,

and they gave it to him.

And he was a Navy guy, he
had a security clearance,

so some of the stuff
that was in the files,

he had already seen
the top secret memo,

before it was declassified,

because Smith had
double-copied it,

and it was in the files.

So he knew about this.

And anyway, Arthur Bray
and I were after a story

that happened in 1967.

Canada, in 1967, this
was the 100th anniversary

of the country.

So they had a bunch
of centennial projects

all over the country,
and one of the projects

that they had, was in
Saint Paul, Alberta,

which is just outside
of Edmonton, Alberta.

They built a UFO landing base,

a little tourist thing outside,

maybe 100 feet across,

and for the tourists to come,

and they built
this landing base.

Now Paul Hellyer at the time

was Secretary of
Defense in Canada.

So he goes to this landing
base to open the landing base,

and he's making his speech,

and he gives the
speech and he says,

you know this is
not the first time

we've had a landing base.

The Canadians opened
up a top secret base

in 1954 for UFO's to land,

and nothing landed,
therefore UFO's don't exist.

So that's fine, and
it was across the
headlines or whatever.

I didn't see the
story till the 1970's,

and suddenly I saw this story,

when I was working on
the Wilbert Smith thing,

because I really didn't
get involved until 1975.

I had no interest
in UFO's whatsoever,

never even thought
about UFO's before then.

And so when I saw this story,

we started trying to
contact Paul Hellyer,

and we weren't really
interested in much except,

where'd the story come from?

And about this landing
base, that they had built.

So, when I went
and I interviewed
Wilbert Smith's wife,

and this was about a
week before she retired.

She was very upset with
the Canadian government,

because we had the
French-English problem,

and she was English, and
the French were starting

to take over the government.

You had to be able to
speak both languages.

She was very upset about a lot
of things in the government,

so she was ready to talk.

And she told me all
these different stories

about Wilbert and about
what was going on,

and stuff that would
just blow you away.

And one of the stories,
so I gave her the

newspaper heading from my 1967,

from the Winnipeg Free Press,
and I showed her this story,

and it said, UFO base
open, whatever it was,

for UFO's to land.

And I handed to her and I said,

did Wilbert have
anything to do with this?

So she sat there and
she read the story,

and she said, yeah
that was Wilbert.

And I said, so what happened?

And she says, well Wilbert went

to the Prime Minister of Canada,

and he went to the RCMP, which
is the federal police force,

and he went to the
Defense Department,

and he said, Wilbert
openly in his speeches

talks about this.

We've got to quit trying
to shoot these things down.

And if we would shoot them down

we could have contact with them.

And so he'd gone to these
three different people,

and he said, if you
don't shoot down the UFO,

I will get Afa, which is the
name of the alien, to land.

So they went into a
meeting, and they said,

and you can't do
anything to them,

so they went into this meeting,

and the three people agreed,

yes they would allow him to
land, without shooting him down.

So then Wilbert said
they wanted a guarantee,

that once, whoever was
gonna talk to them,

and the base was
Suffield, Alberta,

which is the Area 51 of Canada.

It's got a restricted
fly zone over it,

it's a highly top
secret base, in Alberta.

Wilbert wanted a guarantee
that when the UFO landed

at Suffield, they
would talk to it,

do whatever they wanted, and
then be allowed to take off.

And they went back and I
can't remember exactly which,

one of the three
agencies didn't agree,

that they would go
along with that,

that they would necessarily
let the thing take off again.

And so Wilbert says,
okay that's it,

we're calling it off,
nobody's gonna land.

So the whole story was told

that's true, Hellyer had
this story from somewhere,

so we went after
Hellyer, and we said,

so where'd this story come from?

Where'd you get this story?

Because we knew the inside
story of what had happened.

And Hellyer said,
well it was an expert

inside the Department of
Defense that told me the story,

but I can't remember
the guy's name.

And I think this is maybe
what got me into trouble

with Hellyer, and I went,
this doesn't make any sense,

not remembering the top
official in your department.

And he said there was a
file, the guy had the file,

so when Hellyer retired,

he said that he was gonna go
to the archives in Ottawa,

and he was gonna try
to find this file.

Then he came back and said,
no he couldn't find the file,

it wasn't there or whatever.

But Bray and I for years were
writing letters to Hellyer,

trying to get him to, who was
the guy told you this story.

Where'd you get it?

So this goes back to last
year at the X conference,

and I guess I put on my website,

how can you believe
this story that

Hellyer didn't
remember who this was?

So I remember Hellyer,
and he was a big guy,

you've met him, he's a
fairly impressive, large guy.

He wanted to have breakfast,
so I said, okay fine,

so we would come down, he's
got these files under his arm.

And so he says to me,
you know Mister Cameron,

I may be many things, but one
of them is, I'm not a liar.

And I went, oh,

merely thinking,
is that guy right?

So we sat down and he plops
these files open to me,

and they're from 1967,

and they're from the National
Research Council and stuff,

and I said, wow this is '67.

We've got all this stuff,

this is nothing unusual,
it's not the stuff.

The thing I was
interested in was,

your speech in 1967,

where you talked about the fact

they'd opened a
UFO base to land,

and we've got the other
side of the story,

and we wanted to know
who the official was,

and what this was all about.

And he says, I don't even
remember giving the speech.

It was written for
me, by somebody.

I don't remember
giving the speech.

And after that
conversation with Hellyer,

and we had breakfast
for maybe 25 minutes,

I was thoroughly convinced

that he was absolutely
telling the truth,

that he really didn't remember,

that he really didn't
have any knowledge,

and that's one of the
things about Hellyer,

that he really didn't
have any knowledge.

There was maybe stuff
coming across his desk,

UFO sightings, or whatever,

but it was something that
he just pushed aside.

So here's the
Secretary of Defense,

who really is out of the
loop as well, in Canada,

and the stuff is
going somewhere,

but here's a guy
who had the chance,

and if he had the
interest he had now,

he would have got
something done,

but at that time he really
didn't have any interest.

But it was very impressive
to have this vision that

some government
official is covering up,

and then to actually sit down
with that government official

for half an hour
and go, I was wrong.

The guy really doesn't
remember, didn't really know.

If you need any
more information,

you can get most of the material

that I talk about the president.

And what I do at the
president's site that I have,

and the address is
www.presidentialufo.com,

that's my main site,

and what I do is
I just basically

tell the presidential stories.

I don't really, sometimes
I'll put my opinion in,

but mostly it's like,
the stories are there,

and when it's all said and
done, we'll weed it out,

we'll try to edit it,

but I try to put
as much material,

anything that's relevant,

for example, on Barack Obama,

there's probably gotta
be 200 different stories

about secrecy, about
his interest in space,

about his UFO stuff,

just trying to put
it all down there,

so that another researcher
can come along and get it.