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In the criminal justice
system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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We're trying to carve out
a middle ground--
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a place where these issues
can be discussed
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in a civil manner.
- Only if we agree with you.
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If we disagree, then we're
suddenly idiots or hicks.
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- That's not true.
- I see and hear it
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every day, Derek--
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liberals refusing to discuss
issues that really matter:
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economic issues,
geopolitical issues--
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as far as I can see, the only
thing you guys wanna talk about
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is identity politics;
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gender, race, sexual identity.
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I swear to God,
it's like you spend
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all your time and energy just
inventing ways to be offended.
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But it's more complicated
than that.
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No! No.
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See, there you go again,
pandering to us morons,
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'cause we can't
quite grasp the subtleties
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of the complex
liberal platform.
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I just think we need
to talk about these issues
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in a serious, honest way.
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There's a middle road here,
a way to bridge the gap.
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We need to have
more conversations--
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Do you believe the leaders
of the Democratic Party
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are involved
in the sexual exploitation
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of underage boys and girls?
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[dramatic music]
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- Are you really doing this?
- Doing what?
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Talking about
this QAnon crap.
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You told me--
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you promised me
this would be a civil,
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constructive conversation,
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that we'd debate the issues.
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You still haven't answered
the question, Mr. Hoyt.
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[tense, dramatic music]
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Go to hell.
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♪
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[door clicks shut]
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People can sit
in their basement apartment
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surrounded by cats and
pizza boxes and just spew hate.
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Yeah, 'cause there
aren't any consequences.
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You can't fight back either.
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You tweet back?
You're a troll.
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Two weeks ago,
this idiot called me a racist,
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because I said
- Jay-
- Z is overrated.
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Like, what?
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Back in the day, if you
wanted to call out someone,
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you did it in person,
face-to-face.
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And you just might get
your damn ass kicked too--
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[tires squeal and crash,
screaming]
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[line ringing]
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911.
What's your emergency?
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I'm on the corner
of 29th and 10th.
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Someone just got hit by a bus.
- And what's his condition?
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He's bleeding.
It's really bad.
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♪
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[groans]
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♪
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[indistinct shouting]
You all witnessed it.
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Why are we here,
Officer Washington?
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'Cause it wasn't an accident.
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Two witnesses saw some dude
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push the DOA
in front of the bus.
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These witnesses
get a good look at the guy?
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No.
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He was wearing a facemask
and a dark winter hat.
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What about the bus driver?
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She didn't wanna talk.
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Said she's too upset.
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Did he seem mentally ill?
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Did he say anything specific?
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No,
he just rolled up on the dude
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and shoved him
into the street.
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You got a good look at him.
Did you see his complexion?
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Uh, he was white,
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maybe brown.
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I couldn't really tell,
'cause he was wearing
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a facemask
and a dark ski hat.
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Okay.
What was his body type?
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Was he tall, or short,
heavyset, thin?
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5'10", but he definitely
wasn't skinny.
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More like beefy.
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Thank you.
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What do you got?
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Downloaded
the bus cam footage.
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Wow.
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That's a lot of hate
behind that push.
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Question is why?
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♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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♪
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♪
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I have no idea why someone
would wanna kill Derek.
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It doesn't make sense.
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Did you and Derek
have any problems?
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No.
Everything was great.
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Forgive me for asking,
it's just part of the process.
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Were either you or your husband
involved with anyone else?
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No, nothing like that.
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Did Derek gamble, drink?
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Uh,
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maybe a glass of wine
here and there, but...
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He was a good person.
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He loved being a father,
a husband.
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He was going to run
for Congress too.
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He wanted to...
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give back,
make a difference.
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It sounds cliché,
but he really meant it.
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[indistinct chatter]
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I'll be there in a minute.
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Go play with Laura, okay?
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♪
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Uh, if you can think
of anything else,
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would you give us a call?
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Yeah.
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♪
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It might be nothing, but
Derek got into an argument
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with another man
a few weeks ago.
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We were having dinner, and...
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this guy started
yelling at him.
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It got really heated.
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Do you remember what
they were arguing about?
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No, he just kept calling
Derek a liar and a phony.
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Then Derek pushed him away.
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♪
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Yeah, Derek and I got into it
pretty good that night.
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Wasn't a big deal, though.
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Just a couple of alpha dogs
barking at each other.
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What were you two
barking about?
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I tried to buy his firm,
but he sold it to someone else.
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Offered him 50% more
than I did.
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You were pissed
that another company
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wanted to pay more money?
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I was pissed
because he didn't give me
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a chance to counter.
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Pissed enough to shove him
in front of a bus?
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[scoffs]
Please.
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I loved Derek.
- I saw the video.
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I didn't see
a lot of love there.
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What you saw was
two real men talking business--
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face-to-face, no lawyers,
no PR, no social media.
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Just a couple of grown-ass men
gettin' after it.
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Unfortunately,
Derek is now dead.
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And that sucks.
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Like I said,
he was a good dude.
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Did you talk to or see him
after the altercation
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at the restaurant?
- Yeah, met him for coffee
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a few days ago.
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Like a real man?
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Pledged a million dollars
to his campaign too.
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- Hm.
- And that was the last time
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you saw him?
- Well, technically,
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the last time was
in front of his building.
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He shook my hand,
said thanks, and that was that.
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Did he mention
anything unusual,
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maybe somebody harassing him?
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There was this guy
following us.
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Looked like
he was taking photos too.
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Do you remember
what he looked like?
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White, about 50,
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average height.
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He was wearing a Phillies hat.
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[indistinct chatter,
phones ringing]
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[ominous music]
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Think I got something.
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What do you got?
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Look at this guy
with the camera.
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Can you zoom in,
get a better look at his face?
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No,
that's the best I can do.
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Take a look at that jacket.
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NYPD Fighting 19th Softball.
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Guy's a cop.
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Or a softball groupie.
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Send that over to the 19th.
See if anyone recognizes him.
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Yeah, that's me.
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I was followin' the guy
on the right, Derek Hoyt.
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Why?
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Got hired about a month ago
to find some dirt.
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But I came up empty.
Guy's squeaky clean.
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Then last week, they asked me
to give it another whirl.
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What were they
hoping to find?
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Don't know.
Didn't ask.
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Gotta pay the bills, bro.
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Hell of a way to do it.
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Do me a favor.
Don't judge.
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During the course of your,
uh, investigation,
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did you happen
to find anything of concern?
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No, nothing even close.
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So who hired you?
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Who was looking for
all this dirt on Derek Hoyt?
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♪
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That's so crazy.
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I just interviewed him
this morning.
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- Mm.
- So how can I help?
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Well, you can start by, uh,
telling us why you hired
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a P.I. to dig up dirt
on Mr. Hoyt.
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What's that got to do
with him gettin' hit by a bus?
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I don't know, maybe nothin'.
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We're trying to figure out
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why someone
would try to kill him.
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I don't know.
I know he was planning
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on running for Congress,
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and that the power brokers
in the Democratic Party
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were talking about him like he
was the, uh, next big thing--
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AOC with some brains.
[chuckles]
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Uh, that was a joke. Sorry.
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Didn't mean to offend
your left-wing sensibilities.
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No, you didn't offend us.
It wasn't funny.
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Oh, tough crowd.
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More like impatient.
We're investigating a murder.
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You're right, you're right.
I'm sorry.
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I'd heard some rumors
about Hoyt,
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so I hired a P.I. for him,
to look into him.
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I didn't want to publish
anything without confirmation.
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Hm, because of your
journalistic integrity?
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What kind of rumors?
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I'd rather not comment
on that.
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You know, now that he's gone,
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there's no need
to besmirch the deceased.
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Ha!
[laughs]
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- Yeah.
- Now, that's funny.
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You know, you pretending
to have ethical standards.
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Your whole mission is to
cultivate hate and mistrust.
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I run a media business,
all right?
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I give the people
what they want--
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real people--
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real, honest, hardworking,
middle-class people
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who love this country
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who can't relate
to the rich, coastal elites
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who control the media
and the political narrative.
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Come on, you really think
some roofer from Akron
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with a mortgage and three kids
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gives a rat's ass
about somebody's pronoun?
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So you...don't believe
liberals eat babies,
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or that Black people's
obsession with racism
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is destroying the country?
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It doesn't matter
what I believe.
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It matters what sells.
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And destroying Hoyt
would sell?
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Yeah, destroying him
would've been a home run.
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But he's gone.
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So we'll just have to find
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another Democratic heartthrob
to lambaste.
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[chuckles]
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So far,
we're coming up empty.
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Victim is a choir boy.
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No vices, no motives,
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even that right-wing prick, Reed,
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can't dig up any dirt on him.
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00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,474
Yeah, could just be
a random act of violence--
258
00:10:49,517 --> 00:10:51,998
an emotionally unstable guy
acting on impulse.
259
00:10:52,042 --> 00:10:55,001
Well, it's possible,
but keep digging
260
00:10:55,045 --> 00:10:56,394
into this Jordan Reed angle.
261
00:10:56,437 --> 00:10:58,178
He said there were
some rumors swirling,
262
00:10:58,222 --> 00:10:59,876
so let's find out
what they were.
263
00:10:59,919 --> 00:11:01,791
- Mm-hmm.
- Think I know!
264
00:11:01,834 --> 00:11:03,140
Computer Crimes
just did a deep dive
265
00:11:03,183 --> 00:11:05,055
on the victim's
electronic devices--
266
00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:06,360
found some deleted emails
267
00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:08,145
filled with
veiled death threats.
268
00:11:08,188 --> 00:11:10,625
"You're a gutless pig.
You deserve to die."
269
00:11:10,669 --> 00:11:11,844
Know where they came from?
270
00:11:11,888 --> 00:11:14,064
No, they were sent
from an untraceable app.
271
00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:16,022
Good news is,
if you want to call it that,
272
00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:19,025
pretty sure I know why
these guys are threatening him.
273
00:11:19,069 --> 00:11:21,288
Found this
on his deleted email folder.
274
00:11:21,332 --> 00:11:25,379
This young girl Hoyt's with
is definitely not his daughter.
275
00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:27,642
♪
276
00:11:27,686 --> 00:11:29,296
So much for being
a choir boy.
277
00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:31,168
♪
278
00:11:33,431 --> 00:11:35,868
This doesn't make any sense.
Where'd you get these photos?
279
00:11:35,912 --> 00:11:37,914
Off his computer.
280
00:11:37,957 --> 00:11:39,916
There's no way Derek
would ever be involved.
281
00:11:39,959 --> 00:11:41,831
No, well,
these are just photos, ma'am,
282
00:11:41,874 --> 00:11:44,834
we don't have any proof of
anything illegal at the moment.
283
00:11:44,877 --> 00:11:47,140
We're just trying to ID
the young girls in the photos
284
00:11:47,184 --> 00:11:49,621
so we can contact
their parents.
285
00:11:49,664 --> 00:11:51,710
Sorry,
it's just the way it is.
286
00:11:51,754 --> 00:11:52,798
Do you know these two girls?
287
00:11:55,322 --> 00:11:56,759
I know her.
288
00:11:56,802 --> 00:11:58,456
She goes
to my daughter's school.
289
00:11:58,499 --> 00:12:01,154
[somber music]
290
00:12:01,198 --> 00:12:04,288
It's a good thing this
sick son of a bitch is dead.
291
00:12:04,331 --> 00:12:05,550
Mm.
292
00:12:05,593 --> 00:12:07,508
So you were unaware
of these pictures?
293
00:12:07,552 --> 00:12:09,772
Never seen them before?
- Correct.
294
00:12:09,815 --> 00:12:13,253
Mm-hmm, I'm gonna give you a
mulligan on that one, Stewart.
295
00:12:13,297 --> 00:12:14,515
Excuse me?
296
00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,561
Bad idea to lie
to the police.
297
00:12:16,604 --> 00:12:19,172
That's you, isn't it,
bangin' on Hoyt's front door?
298
00:12:19,216 --> 00:12:21,871
Okay, I was...aware.
299
00:12:21,914 --> 00:12:24,569
A friend called, said there
were some photos circulating
300
00:12:24,612 --> 00:12:27,354
on some right-wing chat room.
301
00:12:27,398 --> 00:12:29,487
I flipped out.
I ran over to Hoyt's building.
302
00:12:29,530 --> 00:12:32,229
I wanted to talk to him--
no, you know what?
303
00:12:32,272 --> 00:12:34,405
I wanted to beat his ass
into the ground.
304
00:12:34,448 --> 00:12:35,798
But he wasn't home.
305
00:12:35,841 --> 00:12:38,278
So you never got the chance
to confront him
306
00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:39,845
about these photos?
- No.
307
00:12:39,889 --> 00:12:42,717
I tried, trust me.
But he died.
308
00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:45,590
Got hit by a car.
- Bus.
309
00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:47,853
A bus someone pushed him
in front of.
310
00:12:47,897 --> 00:12:51,552
- You asking me if I--
- We are.
311
00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:53,990
No, I didn't kill him.
312
00:12:55,469 --> 00:12:56,819
You know who this girl is?
313
00:12:56,862 --> 00:12:58,864
Yeah, that's Kimberly Ryan.
314
00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:00,561
She's on the same
basketball team
315
00:13:00,605 --> 00:13:03,347
as my daughter
and Hoyt's daughter.
316
00:13:03,390 --> 00:13:04,783
That's definitely
my daughter,
317
00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:09,309
but she's never
been alone with Hoyt, ever.
318
00:13:09,353 --> 00:13:10,702
I'm not sure how he--
319
00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:12,965
Maybe at a basketball game,
or a sleepover.
320
00:13:13,009 --> 00:13:16,273
No, our kids
aren't really friends.
321
00:13:16,316 --> 00:13:18,841
Can I look
at those photos again?
322
00:13:20,973 --> 00:13:21,887
Yeah.
323
00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:28,067
My daughter's clothing
and her facial expressions,
324
00:13:28,111 --> 00:13:31,288
they match what's on
my wife's social media feed.
325
00:13:31,331 --> 00:13:33,856
Yeah, see?
326
00:13:33,899 --> 00:13:36,293
Same smile,
same clothes,
327
00:13:36,336 --> 00:13:38,599
same body angle.
328
00:13:38,643 --> 00:13:40,253
Someone photoshopped these.
329
00:13:40,297 --> 00:13:42,473
♪
330
00:13:42,516 --> 00:13:43,953
Well,
the techs just confirmed
331
00:13:43,996 --> 00:13:45,432
the pictures are fake.
332
00:13:45,476 --> 00:13:47,086
So Hoyt wasn't a pedophile?
333
00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:49,045
He was a victim
of an online smear campaign?
334
00:13:49,088 --> 00:13:50,481
Ah, sure seems like that.
335
00:13:50,524 --> 00:13:51,917
Hey, sorry to interrupt,
336
00:13:51,961 --> 00:13:53,745
but I'm scrolling through
this online forum
337
00:13:53,788 --> 00:13:55,268
where the photos of Hoyt
were circulating,
338
00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:56,835
and it is crazy.
339
00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,794
There's lots of chatter about
JFK Jr. being alive,
340
00:13:59,838 --> 00:14:02,145
and high-ranking democrats
sex-trafficking underage kids.
341
00:14:02,188 --> 00:14:06,236
But one guy stands out as being
the craziest of the crazies.
342
00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,846
Someone named "Warri0r-p0se"
343
00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:09,674
posted some pretty
outrageous statements.
344
00:14:09,717 --> 00:14:12,155
"Hoyt will never touch
another young girl."
345
00:14:12,198 --> 00:14:14,679
And he posted one
this morning too at 11:12 a.m.
346
00:14:14,722 --> 00:14:17,725
an hour after the murder.
347
00:14:17,769 --> 00:14:19,684
"Hoyt is no longer a problem.
348
00:14:19,727 --> 00:14:21,381
God bless America."
349
00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,296
Run down the IP address
right away.
350
00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:24,994
I already did.
Post was sent from a café
351
00:14:25,037 --> 00:14:27,083
in Brooklyn called
Coffee and Smile.
352
00:14:27,126 --> 00:14:29,476
- Oh.
- Mm.
353
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,391
Why has it become mandatory
for coffee shops
354
00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:33,176
to be called stupid names?
355
00:14:33,219 --> 00:14:35,047
That's why I drink tea.
356
00:14:35,091 --> 00:14:37,136
Talk to the manager.
See if they have video,
357
00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,356
and see if you can find out
who sent those posts.
358
00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,227
- All right.
- You got it.
359
00:14:41,271 --> 00:14:44,404
[motor running]
360
00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:48,495
Hey.
361
00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:50,497
Manny Lopez!
- Yeah?
362
00:14:50,541 --> 00:14:52,673
Yeah, we need to talk.
363
00:14:52,717 --> 00:14:54,719
- About what?
- Is that you drinking coffee
364
00:14:54,762 --> 00:14:57,026
at a place
called Coffee and Smile?
365
00:14:57,069 --> 00:14:59,028
- Is that a crime?
- Uh, no, not yet.
366
00:14:59,071 --> 00:15:01,160
But the way things are going,
who knows?
367
00:15:01,204 --> 00:15:03,554
Might be considered racist
someday soon.
368
00:15:03,597 --> 00:15:05,599
It's only a matter of time,
huh?
369
00:15:05,643 --> 00:15:06,905
Well, there is a crime
370
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:10,387
against pushing someone
in front of a bus.
371
00:15:10,430 --> 00:15:12,215
That's why we're really here.
372
00:15:12,258 --> 00:15:13,781
Come on.
373
00:15:13,825 --> 00:15:16,045
Let's take a ride down
to the precinct.
374
00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:18,134
[door shuts]
375
00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:23,139
Manny, we, uh--
we analyzed your emails
376
00:15:23,182 --> 00:15:26,011
and your chat history.
377
00:15:26,055 --> 00:15:28,405
You weren't the biggest fan
of Derek Hoyt.
378
00:15:28,448 --> 00:15:31,886
Don't worry, bro.
There's more.
379
00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:36,065
We found video of you near the
intersection of 29th and 10th
380
00:15:36,108 --> 00:15:38,719
right around the time
Hoyt was murdered.
381
00:15:38,763 --> 00:15:40,808
Look at you, plain as day,
382
00:15:40,852 --> 00:15:42,767
one block from the crime scene
383
00:15:42,810 --> 00:15:46,466
about 65 seconds
before Hoyt was killed.
384
00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:48,381
[gasps sarcastically]
385
00:15:48,425 --> 00:15:51,123
There you are again,
walking east on 29th Street
386
00:15:51,167 --> 00:15:56,824
right behind Hoyt about
35 seconds before he was pushed.
387
00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,435
You want to get ahead of this,
388
00:15:58,478 --> 00:16:00,393
tell us your side of the story?
389
00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:06,834
♪
390
00:16:06,878 --> 00:16:09,663
Derek Hoyt was a senior
member of the liberal,
391
00:16:09,707 --> 00:16:14,625
sex-crazed cabal
that is destroying our country.
392
00:16:14,668 --> 00:16:16,453
He planned to kidnap
a young kid!
393
00:16:16,496 --> 00:16:19,064
♪
394
00:16:19,108 --> 00:16:20,413
So you killed him?
395
00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:22,067
Damn right!
396
00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:23,460
I love this country.
397
00:16:23,503 --> 00:16:25,201
So I did what I had to do.
398
00:16:25,244 --> 00:16:28,291
Yeah, you sure did.
Now you gotta pay the tab, bro.
399
00:16:28,334 --> 00:16:29,814
What does that mean?
400
00:16:29,857 --> 00:16:31,946
It means you're under arrest
for murder.
401
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:33,687
Hold on, big fella!
Hold on.
402
00:16:40,955 --> 00:16:43,132
The People ask for remand,
Your Honor.
403
00:16:43,175 --> 00:16:44,350
We believe the defendant
is a flight risk,
404
00:16:44,394 --> 00:16:45,917
given the potential
penalty he's facing.
405
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,093
Mr. Lopez has no priors,
406
00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:50,182
has substantial ties
to New York.
407
00:16:50,226 --> 00:16:52,141
Bail is set at $2 million.
408
00:16:52,184 --> 00:16:53,620
That's prohibitive.
409
00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:56,014
Mr. Lopez doesn't have access
to that kind of money.
410
00:16:56,058 --> 00:16:58,234
- I'm not so sure about that.
- Excuse me?
411
00:16:58,277 --> 00:16:59,844
My clerk informed me
that apparently
412
00:16:59,887 --> 00:17:01,106
some self-proclaimed patriot
413
00:17:01,150 --> 00:17:04,153
started a GoFundMe page
for Mr. Lopez.
414
00:17:04,196 --> 00:17:06,329
Already raised $900,000.
415
00:17:06,372 --> 00:17:08,287
Bail is set at $2 million.
416
00:17:08,331 --> 00:17:10,724
[gavel knocks]
Next case.
417
00:17:12,726 --> 00:17:14,206
[knocks on door]
418
00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:15,947
Been reviewing
the most recent posts
419
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:18,689
in Manny's favorite chat room,
Rogue Wave.
420
00:17:18,732 --> 00:17:19,994
There's lots of crazy chatter
421
00:17:20,038 --> 00:17:22,127
about Hoyt trafficking
young kids,
422
00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:25,174
straight out
of the QAnon playbook.
423
00:17:25,217 --> 00:17:28,438
"Credible intel says Hoyt
is abducting young children,
424
00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:29,787
"selling them
to sex-traffickers
425
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:31,223
in Washington, DC."
426
00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:33,965
The next day, which is
the actual day of the murder,
427
00:17:34,008 --> 00:17:35,619
the same person sent this:
428
00:17:35,662 --> 00:17:38,317
"FBI contact says
Hoyt is carrying out
429
00:17:38,361 --> 00:17:39,927
"a kidnapping plot tonight.
430
00:17:39,971 --> 00:17:43,148
Unfortunately, feds don't have
enough evidence to arrest."
431
00:17:43,192 --> 00:17:46,195
Right after that,
the same person sent this:
432
00:17:46,238 --> 00:17:49,807
"Who out there is brave enough
to take action and protect
433
00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:53,332
our great country from
the corrupt liberal cabal?"
434
00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:57,162
So this poster is just
inventing inflammatory lies,
435
00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,816
hoping to rile up the masses?
436
00:17:58,859 --> 00:18:00,818
It was even more targeted
than that.
437
00:18:00,861 --> 00:18:02,907
He knew his audience.
438
00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:05,083
He was looking to rile up
the specific people
439
00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:07,303
who already believe
these ridiculous lies.
440
00:18:07,346 --> 00:18:08,739
We know who this person is?
441
00:18:08,782 --> 00:18:10,262
No,
email address is encrypted,
442
00:18:10,306 --> 00:18:12,525
but he's definitely
the ringleader.
443
00:18:12,569 --> 00:18:16,225
He's the one who posted
the phony pedophile photos too.
444
00:18:17,313 --> 00:18:21,360
So if Manny actually believed
what this poster was saying,
445
00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:24,755
killing Hoyt to thwart
the alleged kidnapping
446
00:18:24,798 --> 00:18:27,714
actually makes some sense.
447
00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:29,368
I mean, even though it's crazy.
448
00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:31,979
Good chance Manny's going
to claim justification--
449
00:18:32,023 --> 00:18:34,068
thought Hoyt was going
to kidnap a young girl,
450
00:18:34,112 --> 00:18:36,941
so he kills Hoyt
to save the young girl.
451
00:18:36,984 --> 00:18:38,421
Even though there
really wasn't a young girl
452
00:18:38,464 --> 00:18:41,075
in harm's way.
- Exactly.
453
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,948
That's obviously a stretch, but
454
00:18:43,991 --> 00:18:45,602
it'll give Manny's lawyer
a chance
455
00:18:45,645 --> 00:18:47,604
to talk about
the liberal lunatics,
456
00:18:47,647 --> 00:18:49,432
the alleged
sex trafficking ring--
457
00:18:49,475 --> 00:18:50,998
Make it about politics,
not law.
458
00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:54,611
Which means
anything is possible.
459
00:18:54,654 --> 00:18:56,569
Call Cosgrove and Bernard.
460
00:18:56,613 --> 00:18:59,833
Have them talk to HTAU
and track down the IP address
461
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:01,487
of this ringleader.
462
00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:03,097
We need to figure out
463
00:19:03,141 --> 00:19:05,839
why he was so invested
in destroying Hoyt,
464
00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:08,712
and if he's connected
to this murder.
465
00:19:08,755 --> 00:19:09,843
On it.
466
00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:12,716
♪
467
00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:14,239
Sorry, guys.
We're recording.
468
00:19:17,938 --> 00:19:20,376
Kennel of troglodytes.
The U.S. government has...
469
00:19:20,419 --> 00:19:21,812
- Reed.
- Literally--
470
00:19:21,855 --> 00:19:23,074
We need to talk.
471
00:19:23,117 --> 00:19:25,250
What is goin' on?
Wha--
472
00:19:25,294 --> 00:19:30,821
♪
473
00:19:30,864 --> 00:19:32,475
Ladies and gentlemen,
474
00:19:32,518 --> 00:19:35,478
two policemen have just entered
my studio.
475
00:19:35,521 --> 00:19:38,655
My guess is, the liberal mafia
gave 'em a call,
476
00:19:38,698 --> 00:19:39,830
told 'em to come on down here,
477
00:19:39,873 --> 00:19:41,266
and stomp on
my First Amendment rights,
478
00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:43,007
and that's how it is
these days, right?
479
00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:44,487
You don't like what
a true patriot is saying,
480
00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:46,402
you take away their voice.
You stomp on their rights
481
00:19:46,445 --> 00:19:49,535
to say what they believe,
or better yet,
482
00:19:49,579 --> 00:19:51,102
you send the police after 'em.
483
00:19:51,145 --> 00:19:53,365
Get off the damn mic, man.
We have business to discuss.
484
00:19:53,409 --> 00:19:54,714
You have a warrant?
485
00:19:54,758 --> 00:19:56,368
We'd just like to ask you
a few questions.
486
00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:58,849
I'm not saying a damn word.
Get the hell out of my studio.
487
00:19:58,892 --> 00:20:00,416
Watch yourself, Reed.
488
00:20:00,459 --> 00:20:05,072
Oh, the, uh, Black detective
is now threatening me.
489
00:20:05,116 --> 00:20:07,553
Why did you post those
crazy lies about Derek Hoyt?
490
00:20:07,597 --> 00:20:08,598
- Get out!
- Hmm?
491
00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:10,339
- Now!
- Why did you post--
492
00:20:10,382 --> 00:20:11,557
Detective,
I'm not saying it again.
493
00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:14,952
You heard me, Detective!
Get out!
494
00:20:14,995 --> 00:20:17,259
Kev, it's not worth it.
495
00:20:17,302 --> 00:20:19,478
♪
496
00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:20,523
[chuckles]
497
00:20:20,566 --> 00:20:23,874
♪
498
00:20:23,917 --> 00:20:26,180
You think Jordan Reed
was an accomplice?
499
00:20:26,224 --> 00:20:28,792
Oh, he stirred him up,
that's for sure.
500
00:20:28,835 --> 00:20:30,968
He posted all kind
of outrageous lies
501
00:20:31,011 --> 00:20:34,363
and made Hoyt into a pedophile,
but there's more.
502
00:20:34,406 --> 00:20:38,236
Reed began to communicate
directly with the defendant.
503
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,325
We found lots of phone calls
between the two of them
504
00:20:40,369 --> 00:20:42,806
on the day prior to
and on the day of the murder.
505
00:20:42,849 --> 00:20:46,288
Any legitimate reason for
these two to be communicating?
506
00:20:46,331 --> 00:20:50,204
Reed is an Ivy League elitist
who grew up on 5th Avenue,
507
00:20:50,248 --> 00:20:52,859
Manny's a day laborer
from Staten Island.
508
00:20:52,903 --> 00:20:53,991
You think
they were discussing
509
00:20:54,034 --> 00:20:57,299
Hoyt's imminent demise?
510
00:20:57,342 --> 00:20:59,344
Wanna trade up,
511
00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:00,911
hold Reed accountable?
512
00:21:05,219 --> 00:21:06,873
Okay.
513
00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:08,005
Talk to the defendant.
514
00:21:08,048 --> 00:21:10,268
See if he'll cooperate.
515
00:21:13,445 --> 00:21:17,406
We know you pushed Derek Hoyt
in front of that bus.
516
00:21:17,449 --> 00:21:21,497
Good news, for you,
is we think Jordan Reed
517
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:23,063
is really the one responsible.
518
00:21:23,107 --> 00:21:25,109
We're happy to cooperate
519
00:21:25,152 --> 00:21:28,417
if you can reduce
the charge to Man One.
520
00:21:28,460 --> 00:21:29,505
No promises.
521
00:21:29,548 --> 00:21:31,028
We'll listen to what
he has to say.
522
00:21:31,071 --> 00:21:33,160
Come back with a deal
in writing.
523
00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,772
Just answer their questions,
Manny, and nothing you say
524
00:21:35,815 --> 00:21:38,165
can be used against you.
525
00:21:38,209 --> 00:21:40,951
You and Reed talked
on the phone several times
526
00:21:40,994 --> 00:21:42,605
before and after the murder.
527
00:21:42,648 --> 00:21:44,084
What did you two discuss?
528
00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:46,304
We talked about
a lot of things.
529
00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:47,784
The country,
530
00:21:47,827 --> 00:21:50,395
the left-wing fascists
trying to take over the country.
531
00:21:50,439 --> 00:21:53,442
Did Reed talk to you
about killing Derek Hoyt?
532
00:21:53,485 --> 00:21:55,095
Reed's a good guy.
533
00:21:55,139 --> 00:21:56,575
He's a straight shooter.
534
00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,534
No, he's a liar and a fraud.
535
00:21:58,577 --> 00:22:00,579
He was playing you, Manny.
536
00:22:00,623 --> 00:22:02,320
Hoyt wasn't a pedophile.
537
00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:06,106
He was a law-abiding family man
who wanted to run for Congress.
538
00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:08,108
Sure, that's what
the liberal media says.
539
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,675
No, that's what the facts say.
540
00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:12,156
Reed is using you
and your chat room friends
541
00:22:12,199 --> 00:22:13,636
to become a billionaire.
542
00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,202
For God sakes, Manny.
543
00:22:15,246 --> 00:22:18,641
You worry about you, not Reed.
544
00:22:18,684 --> 00:22:21,383
Now, you tell them
what you two talked about.
545
00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:27,693
He said Hoyt
was very dangerous,
546
00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:29,173
a threat to the country,
547
00:22:29,216 --> 00:22:31,480
that the wave was coming,
and that he needed people
548
00:22:31,523 --> 00:22:34,352
to neutralize
that left-wing threat,
549
00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:38,922
people willing to take bold
and decisive action.
550
00:22:38,965 --> 00:22:40,358
Did he ask you to kill him?
551
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:42,839
He kept using the word
"neutralize,"
552
00:22:42,882 --> 00:22:45,363
but I knew what he meant.
553
00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:47,670
Did you expect anything
in return for killing Hoyt--
554
00:22:47,713 --> 00:22:50,237
money, a car?
555
00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:53,980
He said that his company
rewards true patriots,
556
00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:58,507
those willing to take action,
that kind of thing, you know?
557
00:22:58,550 --> 00:23:02,511
♪
558
00:23:04,295 --> 00:23:06,819
Docket number CR 54378-22,
559
00:23:06,863 --> 00:23:10,823
People versus Jordan Reed,
Murder in the First Degree.
560
00:23:10,867 --> 00:23:12,564
How does the defendant plead?
561
00:23:12,608 --> 00:23:14,958
Not guilty, Your Honor.
562
00:23:15,001 --> 00:23:16,960
- People on bail?
- Remand.
563
00:23:17,003 --> 00:23:18,309
The defendant is a flight risk.
564
00:23:18,352 --> 00:23:20,093
He has access to private jets,
565
00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:21,312
foreign political leaders--
566
00:23:21,355 --> 00:23:23,314
This is preposterous,
Your Honor.
567
00:23:23,357 --> 00:23:25,055
My client has done
nothing wrong.
568
00:23:25,098 --> 00:23:26,665
He's committed no crime.
569
00:23:26,709 --> 00:23:28,058
Not his fault some lunatic
570
00:23:28,101 --> 00:23:30,713
pushed Derek Hoyt
in front of a bus.
571
00:23:30,756 --> 00:23:33,019
Bail is set at $1 million.
572
00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:34,630
Next case.
[gavel knocks]
573
00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:38,155
all chanting:
574
00:23:38,198 --> 00:23:41,158
Free Jordan Reed!
Free Jordan Reed!
575
00:23:41,201 --> 00:23:43,465
So much
for the home field advantage.
576
00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:45,510
Reed definitely
has a hardcore following.
577
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:47,338
That's why we're here
in the first place.
578
00:23:47,381 --> 00:23:48,818
all chanting:
Free Jordan Reed!
579
00:23:48,861 --> 00:23:51,429
♪
580
00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:56,478
Derek Hoyt was a kind,
decent husband and father.
581
00:23:56,521 --> 00:23:58,697
He was also
an aspiring politician
582
00:23:58,741 --> 00:24:01,526
with a bright future.
583
00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:04,703
So in search of
salacious headlines,
584
00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:07,184
the defendant created
a false narrative
585
00:24:07,227 --> 00:24:09,273
that Derek Hoyt
was a pedophile--
586
00:24:09,316 --> 00:24:12,668
that he was part of a depraved
sex-trafficking ring
587
00:24:12,711 --> 00:24:15,540
that preyed
on underage children.
588
00:24:15,584 --> 00:24:19,675
To help perpetuate
this disgraceful fiction,
589
00:24:19,718 --> 00:24:23,026
he disseminated fake photos
of Derek Hoyt
590
00:24:23,069 --> 00:24:24,723
and young girls on the internet.
591
00:24:28,553 --> 00:24:30,033
You see,
592
00:24:30,076 --> 00:24:32,557
inventing mythical enemies
593
00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:36,387
is a part of
the defendant's business model.
594
00:24:36,430 --> 00:24:38,258
He creates clickbait.
595
00:24:38,302 --> 00:24:41,174
He provides exciting
liberal enemies
596
00:24:41,218 --> 00:24:42,828
for his followers to hate.
597
00:24:42,872 --> 00:24:45,918
He then posts about
these dangerous fascists
598
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:48,225
- and anti-
- Americans on his websites,
599
00:24:48,268 --> 00:24:50,140
talks about them
on his streaming platforms
600
00:24:50,183 --> 00:24:53,404
and podcasts,
but the only thing
601
00:24:53,447 --> 00:24:58,235
he really cares about
is money.
602
00:24:58,278 --> 00:25:01,804
Monetizing
the outrage and venom.
603
00:25:01,847 --> 00:25:02,848
That's how the defendant built
604
00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:05,851
his billion dollar
media empire.
605
00:25:05,895 --> 00:25:09,942
In simplest terms,
the defendant made Derek Hoyt
606
00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,292
an enemy of the far-right,
607
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,338
then offered Manny Lopez
608
00:25:14,381 --> 00:25:17,602
a misguided, but intelligent
patriotic ex-marine
609
00:25:17,646 --> 00:25:21,127
a financial reward
to kill that enemy,
610
00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:23,434
and Manny Lopez did.
611
00:25:23,477 --> 00:25:26,655
He pushed him
in front of a bus.
612
00:25:26,698 --> 00:25:33,618
♪
613
00:25:38,057 --> 00:25:40,320
Tomorrow, you'll hear
from Mr. Lopez himself.
614
00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:44,150
He will describe this
murder-for-hire arrangement
615
00:25:44,194 --> 00:25:46,588
in more detail
and make it clear
616
00:25:46,631 --> 00:25:50,983
the defendant
should be held accountable
617
00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:52,942
for Mr. Hoyt's death.
618
00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:58,774
♪
619
00:25:58,817 --> 00:26:00,776
[sighs]
620
00:26:00,819 --> 00:26:02,560
Sometimes,
621
00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:06,477
murder trials
can be complicated.
622
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,698
Now, sometimes, there's--
there's lots of science,
623
00:26:09,741 --> 00:26:13,353
blood evidence,
contradictory testimony.
624
00:26:14,572 --> 00:26:18,489
But sometimes, they're easy.
625
00:26:18,532 --> 00:26:22,580
The answer is sittin' there
right in front of you.
626
00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:27,454
It's so simple and clear,
it's almost confusing.
627
00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:29,761
This is one of those cases.
628
00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:35,245
Manny Lopez pushed Derek Hoyt
in front of a bus.
629
00:26:35,288 --> 00:26:36,986
Jordan Reed didn't.
630
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:40,250
To hold him guilty for
another man's act of violence
631
00:26:40,293 --> 00:26:43,253
is contrary
to the intent of the law,
632
00:26:43,296 --> 00:26:45,690
and a dangerous attempt
to criminalize
633
00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:48,824
the expression of free speech.
634
00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:52,479
If I say the coach of the
New York Jets is terrible--
635
00:26:52,523 --> 00:26:54,003
[chuckling]
Right? I mean he's an idiot--
636
00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:56,527
he deserves to die.
637
00:26:56,570 --> 00:27:00,009
And the next day,
some lunatic kills him,
638
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:02,751
pushes him in front of a bus,
for example.
639
00:27:02,794 --> 00:27:08,713
Am I responsible for what this
deranged football fan did?
640
00:27:08,757 --> 00:27:11,542
No, of course not.
641
00:27:11,585 --> 00:27:16,025
Manny Lopez killed Derek Hoyt.
642
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:18,592
Jordan Reed did not.
643
00:27:20,899 --> 00:27:22,553
Like I said,
644
00:27:22,596 --> 00:27:25,425
sometimes, cases are easy.
645
00:27:28,428 --> 00:27:30,213
Okay, we're adjourned.
646
00:27:30,256 --> 00:27:31,518
[gavel knocks]
647
00:27:33,259 --> 00:27:36,915
[cell phones vibrating]
648
00:27:36,959 --> 00:27:39,875
♪
649
00:27:39,918 --> 00:27:40,963
Notify the judge.
650
00:27:41,006 --> 00:27:43,052
- I'll--
- I'll head down to the hospital.
651
00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:49,493
♪
652
00:27:49,536 --> 00:27:52,452
[indistinct PA announcement]
653
00:27:52,496 --> 00:27:57,980
♪
654
00:27:58,023 --> 00:28:00,896
Excuse me,
I'm looking for Manuel Lopez.
655
00:28:00,939 --> 00:28:03,115
I was told
he was just rushed to the ER.
656
00:28:03,159 --> 00:28:05,596
- And you are?
- Assistant District Attorney
657
00:28:05,639 --> 00:28:07,076
Nolan Price.
Manny's supposed to be
658
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,861
testifying in a murder trial
tomorrow morning.
659
00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:12,168
Well, I'm afraid
that's not possible.
660
00:28:12,211 --> 00:28:13,822
He's dead.
661
00:28:13,865 --> 00:28:15,301
He's dead?
662
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,782
He hanged himself earlier
this morning in his cell.
663
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:19,958
We tried to revive him, but
there was nothing we could do.
664
00:28:20,002 --> 00:28:26,965
♪
665
00:28:30,316 --> 00:28:32,275
Your Honor, the People's case
was predicated
666
00:28:32,318 --> 00:28:34,756
on Manny Lopez's testimony.
667
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,149
He was, in effect,
the only piece of evidence
668
00:28:37,193 --> 00:28:39,673
that could establish
that Mr. Reed hired him
669
00:28:39,717 --> 00:28:40,762
to kill the victim.
670
00:28:40,805 --> 00:28:42,198
So without Manny,
671
00:28:42,241 --> 00:28:45,070
it's literally impossible
to prove murder-for-hire.
672
00:28:45,114 --> 00:28:47,377
No Manny, no case.
Simple as that.
673
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:50,119
Mr. Price, that true?
674
00:28:50,162 --> 00:28:53,035
Is Mr. Lopez
the only ace up your sleeve?
675
00:28:53,078 --> 00:28:55,124
Do you have anything else that
gives you a puncher's chance
676
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:57,517
to prove your case?
- Not at the moment.
677
00:28:57,561 --> 00:28:59,476
Then I'm going to grant
the motion to dismiss.
678
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:01,043
I have no objection
to dismissing
679
00:29:01,086 --> 00:29:03,045
the murder-for-hire charge.
680
00:29:03,088 --> 00:29:05,612
But we'd still like to proceed
681
00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:08,180
with the lesser-included
offense, Murder Two.
682
00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:09,486
Under what theory?
683
00:29:09,529 --> 00:29:11,357
Your client showed
a depraved indifference
684
00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:13,490
to human life.
- Oh, this is ridiculous.
685
00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:17,799
Reed's lies, his posts,
and photos incited Manny Lopez
686
00:29:17,842 --> 00:29:18,843
to commit murder.
687
00:29:18,887 --> 00:29:21,672
He knew,
or should have known,
688
00:29:21,715 --> 00:29:23,935
that his repeated fabrications
would likely cause
689
00:29:23,979 --> 00:29:26,720
one of his ardent followers
to kill Derek Hoyt.
690
00:29:26,764 --> 00:29:29,723
Is this a joke?
You wanna try Reed for murder
691
00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:32,552
based on a series
of stupid chat room posts?
692
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:33,684
That's exactly what
I wanna do.
693
00:29:33,727 --> 00:29:34,816
Chat room posts,
694
00:29:34,859 --> 00:29:36,774
social media rants,
they're protected
695
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,297
under the First Amendment.
696
00:29:38,341 --> 00:29:40,473
Jordan Reed can say
whatever the hell he wants.
697
00:29:40,517 --> 00:29:42,562
He could talk about
liberal cannibals
698
00:29:42,606 --> 00:29:45,130
and underage sex trafficking
rings all day long.
699
00:29:45,174 --> 00:29:48,046
Your client yelled "fire"
in a crowded movie theater,
700
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:51,571
and Derek Hoyt
got trampled to death.
701
00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:54,574
We have every right
to move forward on Murder Two.
702
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,449
I agree with Mr. Price.
There's a case here.
703
00:29:59,492 --> 00:30:02,626
I'm not sure if it's winnable,
but it's certainly triable.
704
00:30:02,669 --> 00:30:04,846
So let's do it.
705
00:30:04,889 --> 00:30:10,677
♪
706
00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:12,331
When the photos
were enlarged,
707
00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:15,421
significant pixelation
and discoloring were evident--
708
00:30:15,465 --> 00:30:17,597
two telltale signs
of alteration.
709
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,425
So they're fake?
They were photoshopped?
710
00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,645
Yes, the images
from the young girls'
711
00:30:21,688 --> 00:30:25,518
legitimate social accounts were
copied and then transposed
712
00:30:25,562 --> 00:30:28,391
onto photos with Derek Hoyt
and vice-versa.
713
00:30:28,434 --> 00:30:31,916
These fake photos were posted
to a virtual community
714
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440
called Rogue Wave,
a place where believers
715
00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:36,921
in the so-called
QAnon conspiracy theory
716
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,358
gather to share ideas.
717
00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:40,620
Were you able to determine
718
00:30:40,664 --> 00:30:42,666
which IP address
they were sent from?
719
00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:47,976
Yes.
IP address 198.51.100.0/24.
720
00:30:48,715 --> 00:30:51,936
These statements were
also posted to Rogue Wave.
721
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:54,069
Do you know which IP address
they came from?
722
00:30:54,112 --> 00:30:55,548
Yes, same one.
723
00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:58,290
And were you able to trace
that IP address
724
00:30:58,334 --> 00:31:00,640
to a particular office?
- Yes.
725
00:31:00,684 --> 00:31:03,034
It was located
in a large corner office
726
00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:05,994
in a company called Audix, LLC.
727
00:31:06,037 --> 00:31:10,128
The nameplate on the door said,
"Jordan Reed."
728
00:31:10,172 --> 00:31:11,347
Nothing further.
729
00:31:16,961 --> 00:31:19,442
You have no proof Mr. Reed
730
00:31:19,485 --> 00:31:22,793
actually created those photos,
correct?
731
00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:24,926
No, but they were sent
from his computer.
732
00:31:24,969 --> 00:31:29,582
You also have no proof
Mr. Reed wrote or posted
733
00:31:29,626 --> 00:31:32,672
those statements to Rogue Wave?
734
00:31:32,716 --> 00:31:37,025
I don't, but they were sent
from his computer.
735
00:31:37,068 --> 00:31:38,200
Nothing further.
736
00:31:40,593 --> 00:31:42,856
We have the posts
and the photos.
737
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,859
It's not perfect,
but it'll show that Reed
738
00:31:45,903 --> 00:31:48,210
wanted to incite action--
739
00:31:48,253 --> 00:31:50,429
no, that his objective
740
00:31:50,473 --> 00:31:52,954
was to prompt
his most zealous followers
741
00:31:52,997 --> 00:31:56,609
to commit an act of violence
against Derek Hoyt.
742
00:31:56,653 --> 00:31:59,308
It's a good start,
but we need more
743
00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:01,875
to bolster our theory
of depraved indifference.
744
00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:05,618
We need to show Reed knew
there was a strong likelihood
745
00:32:05,662 --> 00:32:08,360
Manny would kill Hoyt
based on his outrageous posts
746
00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:09,883
and only those
outrageous posts.
747
00:32:09,927 --> 00:32:12,930
We have what we have.
I mean, it'd be great
748
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,497
if I had a beach house
in South Hampton,
749
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:15,846
but I don't, so I make do
750
00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:17,979
with my cousin's cottage
on the Jersey Shore
751
00:32:18,022 --> 00:32:20,068
for three days in August.
752
00:32:20,111 --> 00:32:23,636
We're asking the jury
to convict someone for murder,
753
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,030
for spreading lies
on the internet.
754
00:32:26,074 --> 00:32:28,032
This could be ground-breaking,
755
00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:29,642
like convicting
Trump for the murders
756
00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:32,210
that took place on January 6th.
757
00:32:32,254 --> 00:32:34,256
We need to give the jury more.
758
00:32:36,736 --> 00:32:39,261
We know Manny attended
three recent rallies
759
00:32:39,304 --> 00:32:41,263
where Reed
was the featured speaker.
760
00:32:41,306 --> 00:32:43,961
So let's start there.
761
00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:47,051
♪
762
00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:49,532
Is that you standing beside
Jordan Reed?
763
00:32:49,575 --> 00:32:51,142
Yeah, that's me.
764
00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:52,361
What'd you two talk about?
765
00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:54,102
Nothing too specific.
766
00:32:54,145 --> 00:32:56,800
Did he ever mention
a guy named Derek Hoyt?
767
00:32:56,843 --> 00:32:58,062
No, Who's he?
768
00:32:58,106 --> 00:32:59,933
He got murdered a while ago.
769
00:32:59,977 --> 00:33:02,240
The guy you're standing next
to, Manny Lopez, pushed him
770
00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:05,243
in front of a bus.
- Damn.
771
00:33:05,287 --> 00:33:07,158
That's crazy.
- Did Manny say anything
772
00:33:07,202 --> 00:33:10,248
to Reed that might suggest
he'd do something violent?
773
00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:12,250
No, he barely talked.
774
00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:13,469
Did you guys
talk about anything
775
00:33:13,512 --> 00:33:15,558
other than
how screwed up the country is?
776
00:33:15,601 --> 00:33:18,082
Yeah, lots of stuff.
777
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:19,127
Like what?
778
00:33:19,170 --> 00:33:20,737
Uh, the Knicks.
779
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:23,305
Me and Reed were pissed about
Kemba Walker being benched.
780
00:33:25,524 --> 00:33:27,091
They didn't talk
about Derek Hoyt
781
00:33:27,135 --> 00:33:28,614
or committing acts of violence?
782
00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:30,007
It was just a pleasant chat
783
00:33:30,051 --> 00:33:32,879
about life in America,
circa 2022?
784
00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:34,664
According to Pond,
they talked about
785
00:33:34,707 --> 00:33:39,060
everything but Hoyt
or committing acts of violence.
786
00:33:39,103 --> 00:33:40,539
This is bad.
787
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,454
It's exculpatory too.
788
00:33:42,498 --> 00:33:44,021
I'm not so sure.
789
00:33:44,065 --> 00:33:46,415
It contradicts our entire
thesis that Reed was baiting
790
00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:47,807
his followers to attack Hoyt.
791
00:33:47,851 --> 00:33:49,505
This is just one conversation,
792
00:33:49,548 --> 00:33:52,073
one simple sound bite--
- A simple sound bite
793
00:33:52,116 --> 00:33:55,467
that favors the defendant.
794
00:33:55,511 --> 00:33:57,121
[sighs]
You're right.
795
00:33:57,165 --> 00:33:59,297
♪
796
00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:03,475
We need to notify defense.
Let them know what we found,
797
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,478
and then we need
to get back to work,
798
00:34:06,522 --> 00:34:08,872
and figure out
how to win this damn case.
799
00:34:08,915 --> 00:34:13,572
♪
800
00:34:15,531 --> 00:34:17,750
Did you attend
a political rally
801
00:34:17,794 --> 00:34:20,188
at a restaurant called
The Grey Lion on March 10th?
802
00:34:20,231 --> 00:34:23,539
- Yes.
- At this event,
803
00:34:23,582 --> 00:34:27,064
did you happen to have
a conversation with Jordan Reed
804
00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,066
and Manny Lopez?
- I did.
805
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:31,460
What did you three discuss?
806
00:34:31,503 --> 00:34:33,984
We talked about how
screwed up our country is.
807
00:34:34,027 --> 00:34:35,986
Can you be more specific?
808
00:34:36,029 --> 00:34:38,162
We talked about
how much the liberals hate us,
809
00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:40,164
how stupid they think we are.
810
00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:42,471
If I dare to express a view
contrary to theirs,
811
00:34:42,514 --> 00:34:46,083
I'm an idiot,
a racist, homophobic...
812
00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:48,520
I mean, this is America.
813
00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:49,956
We should be able
to express our views
814
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,871
without being attacked.
815
00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:53,830
Did you discuss
anything else?
816
00:34:53,873 --> 00:34:55,440
Yes.
817
00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:56,833
The New York Knicks.
818
00:34:56,876 --> 00:35:00,271
Ha.
[chuckles]
819
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:04,188
Did Jordan Reed ask you
or Manny Lopez
820
00:35:04,232 --> 00:35:06,495
to commit an act of violence,
821
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:10,281
to help protect the country
against the liberal cabal?
822
00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:11,978
No, sir.
823
00:35:14,198 --> 00:35:15,460
Nothing further.
824
00:35:17,245 --> 00:35:18,681
You weren't standing
next to Manny Lopez
825
00:35:18,724 --> 00:35:19,856
the whole night, correct?
826
00:35:19,899 --> 00:35:21,205
- Correct.
- You weren't standing
827
00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:22,902
next to Jordan Reed
the whole night either?
828
00:35:22,946 --> 00:35:24,600
- Correct.
- So it's possible
829
00:35:24,643 --> 00:35:26,645
Manny Lopez and Jordan Reed may
have discussed something else
830
00:35:26,689 --> 00:35:29,170
including committing
acts of violence, correct?
831
00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:31,346
- It's possible, but--
- This wasn't the only
832
00:35:31,389 --> 00:35:33,304
political event Mr. Reed
ever sponsored, correct?
833
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,567
No.
He puts on lots of rallies.
834
00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:37,134
Once a week, actually.
835
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:40,659
[dramatic music]
836
00:35:40,703 --> 00:35:42,705
How'd you find out
about these rallies?
837
00:35:42,748 --> 00:35:43,923
Word of mouth, mostly.
838
00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:45,490
People usually text each other.
839
00:35:45,534 --> 00:35:47,231
♪
840
00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:48,711
Thank you.
Nothing further.
841
00:35:48,754 --> 00:35:50,800
♪
842
00:35:50,843 --> 00:35:52,367
Get a subpoena
for Pond's phone.
843
00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:55,239
We need to review his texts
then do a deep dive
844
00:35:55,283 --> 00:35:56,893
into every rally
Reed's attended
845
00:35:56,936 --> 00:35:58,329
for the past few months.
846
00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:01,114
Then have detectives scrub
the surveillance footage.
847
00:36:01,158 --> 00:36:04,161
We need a clip,
a quote, a sound bite,
848
00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,772
something that reveals
who Jordan Reed really is.
849
00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:09,688
Happy to do it, but why?
850
00:36:09,732 --> 00:36:11,124
Excuse me?
851
00:36:11,168 --> 00:36:13,126
We rested our case
two days ago.
852
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:14,911
Even if we find
something interesting,
853
00:36:14,954 --> 00:36:16,260
we can't introduce it.
854
00:36:16,304 --> 00:36:18,262
But we can use it on cross.
855
00:36:18,306 --> 00:36:19,959
Once again,
happy to do it,
856
00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:21,352
but there is no indication
857
00:36:21,396 --> 00:36:23,354
that Reed is actually
going to testify.
858
00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:26,183
You really think the biggest
media whore in America
859
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,577
is gonna pass up the
opportunity to wrap himself
860
00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:29,795
in the First Amendment,
861
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:31,623
and provide free content
862
00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:33,103
for his media company?
863
00:36:33,146 --> 00:36:34,322
Not a chance.
864
00:36:34,365 --> 00:36:36,933
Get the subpoena,
and start scrubbing.
865
00:36:36,976 --> 00:36:41,764
♪
866
00:36:41,807 --> 00:36:46,943
Have you spent any time in
a chat room called Rogue Wave?
867
00:36:46,986 --> 00:36:48,118
I'm aware of it,
868
00:36:48,161 --> 00:36:51,121
but I've actually
never participated
869
00:36:51,164 --> 00:36:54,342
in any online discussions.
870
00:36:54,385 --> 00:36:57,127
Like I said, we have over
500 employees at the company,
871
00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:59,303
and most of them
are very patriotic too.
872
00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:02,437
So it's possible one of them
might have used my computer.
873
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,873
Mm-hmm.
874
00:37:03,916 --> 00:37:05,135
Nothing further.
875
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:08,269
You ready?
876
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,839
Highly unusual
for an employee
877
00:37:13,883 --> 00:37:16,146
to use the CEO's office
without his knowledge
878
00:37:16,189 --> 00:37:17,800
or permission, correct?
879
00:37:17,843 --> 00:37:19,105
Not at my company.
880
00:37:19,149 --> 00:37:21,238
We have an open
and inclusive culture.
881
00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:22,326
Doors are never closed.
882
00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:23,806
In fact, most offices
883
00:37:23,849 --> 00:37:25,198
don't even have doors.
884
00:37:25,242 --> 00:37:27,244
- Your office has a door.
- Yes.
885
00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:31,030
But I never close it
or lock it.
886
00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,902
Your computer has a password,
correct?
887
00:37:32,945 --> 00:37:34,686
It does, yes,
but it's written
888
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:36,949
on one of those
yellow sticky things
889
00:37:36,993 --> 00:37:38,037
stuck to the computer.
890
00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:40,126
It's...
it's low-tech, I know,
891
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:42,346
but I'm always forgetting
my damn passwords.
892
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:45,654
You know, too many devices
and subscriptions...
893
00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:48,700
You said it earlier a lot of
your employees are patriotic.
894
00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:50,267
You consider yourself
a patriot too?
895
00:37:50,311 --> 00:37:51,486
Yes, of course.
896
00:37:51,529 --> 00:37:53,357
I imagine you
also consider yourself
897
00:37:53,401 --> 00:37:55,490
a proud proponent
of the First Amendment.
898
00:37:55,533 --> 00:37:56,360
I do.
899
00:37:56,404 --> 00:37:58,971
Freedom of speech is
900
00:37:59,015 --> 00:38:01,496
the cornerstone
of our democracy.
901
00:38:01,539 --> 00:38:05,238
It's the defining feature
of our country.
902
00:38:05,282 --> 00:38:08,241
People have the right
to express
903
00:38:08,285 --> 00:38:10,418
their religious
and political beliefs
904
00:38:10,461 --> 00:38:12,289
even if they're unpopular,
905
00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:16,119
even if the people in power
find them abhorrent,
906
00:38:16,162 --> 00:38:18,948
and that open exchange
right there,
907
00:38:18,991 --> 00:38:22,386
that is what makes America
the greatest country on Earth.
908
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:25,215
So your goal was to foster
909
00:38:25,258 --> 00:38:28,392
the open exchange
of opinions and ideas?
910
00:38:28,436 --> 00:38:31,787
Yes, I just wanna give
patriotic Americans a forum
911
00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:33,702
to express their thoughts.
912
00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:36,879
You know, contrary
to popular opinion, Mr. Price,
913
00:38:36,922 --> 00:38:39,838
most conservatives don't enjoy
the didactic rhetoric
914
00:38:39,882 --> 00:38:41,318
of the far-left.
915
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,408
So despite the outrageous
and inflammatory posts
916
00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:46,715
sent from your office computer,
917
00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:48,151
your goal was simply
918
00:38:48,194 --> 00:38:51,110
to cultivate
a peaceful exchange of ideas?
919
00:38:51,154 --> 00:38:52,721
- Yes.
- You didn't want
920
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,766
your followers
to commit acts of violence?
921
00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:56,333
No, no, no.
922
00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:58,466
No, that would be
the last thing I'd ever want.
923
00:39:01,077 --> 00:39:03,253
I'd like to show you
a video clip of you talking
924
00:39:03,296 --> 00:39:05,690
to one of your employees
at a recent rally--
925
00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,171
Objection.
We haven't had a chance
926
00:39:08,214 --> 00:39:09,607
to review this material.
927
00:39:09,651 --> 00:39:11,435
There was no reason
to share it until now.
928
00:39:11,479 --> 00:39:13,611
We couldn't anticipate
the defendant would testify,
929
00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:17,049
and open the door with his
statements about cultivating
930
00:39:17,093 --> 00:39:19,617
the peaceful exchange of ideas.
931
00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:22,185
And this video clip
will rebut those statements?
932
00:39:22,228 --> 00:39:24,448
It will directly contradict
what the defendant just said
933
00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:28,104
regarding his goals
and objectives.
934
00:39:28,147 --> 00:39:29,540
I'll allow it.
935
00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:36,460
Look at these idiots,
936
00:39:36,504 --> 00:39:38,636
drinkin',
gettin' all riled up.
937
00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:43,119
If we could just find a way
to activate these morons
938
00:39:43,162 --> 00:39:44,381
to actually attack
939
00:39:44,425 --> 00:39:46,688
or even kill
940
00:39:46,731 --> 00:39:49,952
some trans-bathroom-loving
liberal,
941
00:39:49,995 --> 00:39:52,911
we--
942
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,827
we'd be the number one
media company in the world.
943
00:39:55,871 --> 00:39:57,612
[dramatic music]
944
00:39:57,655 --> 00:39:59,004
[chuckles]
945
00:39:59,048 --> 00:40:03,400
♪
946
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:07,230
A waiter took that video
at a recent rally.
947
00:40:07,273 --> 00:40:11,495
It shows you saying you'd like
to see one of "these morons"
948
00:40:11,539 --> 00:40:14,280
attack or kill someone.
949
00:40:14,324 --> 00:40:18,328
- I was kidding.
- Come on, that--
- I was joking.
950
00:40:18,371 --> 00:40:20,286
That's a hell of a thing
to joke about.
951
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:26,075
♪
952
00:40:26,118 --> 00:40:27,250
Nothing further.
953
00:40:27,293 --> 00:40:28,730
♪
954
00:40:28,773 --> 00:40:29,861
Defense?
955
00:40:29,905 --> 00:40:31,384
Nothing at this time.
956
00:40:31,428 --> 00:40:37,260
♪
957
00:40:37,303 --> 00:40:39,262
Has the jury
reached a verdict?
958
00:40:39,305 --> 00:40:40,742
We have, Your Honor.
959
00:40:40,785 --> 00:40:42,526
On the count
of Murder in the Second Degree,
960
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,180
we find the defendant...
961
00:40:44,223 --> 00:40:46,791
guilty.
- [laughs]
962
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:48,750
You've got to be--
963
00:40:48,793 --> 00:40:51,230
get off of me.
964
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,537
This isn't over.
This isn't over!
965
00:40:53,581 --> 00:40:56,322
The true patriots
will have the last say.
966
00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:58,281
They will not stand
for this act of tyranny!
967
00:40:58,324 --> 00:41:01,545
♪
968
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:03,025
Hell of a verdict, Nolan.
969
00:41:03,068 --> 00:41:05,897
Will make people think twice
before tweeting venom.
970
00:41:05,941 --> 00:41:07,116
I'm not so sure.
971
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,597
Someone called
"garrett-from-the-country"
972
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,164
just tweeted me a particularly
venomous death threat.
973
00:41:12,208 --> 00:41:17,822
♪
974
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:24,786
[dramatic music]
975
00:41:24,829 --> 00:41:31,749
♪
976
00:41:41,367 --> 00:41:48,505
♪
977
00:41:51,116 --> 00:41:54,032
[wolf howls]
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