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Where we are in Argentina,
on this shore,
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I can look
across and see Paraguay.
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Want to go to Brazil?
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I just go a little bit
up this river right here,
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I'm in Brazil.
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It's perfect.
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I'm looking for one thing:
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places where Nazis can go hide,
one in particular.
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Here we are
in northern Argentina,
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and we have found just that,
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the perfect hiding spot
for a Nazi on the run.
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male narrator:
In 2014, an executive order
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declassified over 700 pages
of secret FBI documents,
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revealing that
the U.S. government
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was investigating
Adolf Hitler's whereabouts
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months and years
after he was believed dead.
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In these files,
there are thousands of leads.
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This is report...
after report...
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after report.
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They had an active investigation
looking for this guy.
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narrator:
Bob Baer, 21-year CIA veteran
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and one of the most renowned
intelligence minds
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in the world, has reopened
a 70-year-old cold case,
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the death of Adolf Hitler.
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All the witnesses are dead.
There's no fingerprints.
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There's no decent forensics.
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It's the biggest mystery
of the 20th century.
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narrator: Armed with newly
declassified FBI documents
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and the most
cutting-edge technology,
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Bob has assembled a team
of the most respected experts
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in the world to carry out
an international investigation.
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We are not gonna make
our conclusions in advance.
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I just want to do
the definitive investigation
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on Hitler, for once
and all, settle this damn thing.
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narrator: Previously on
"Hunting Hitler"...
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Argentina, it's exploding.
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Hitler "is living in a great
underground establishment."
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Charata's our place.
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Did they fly
the swastika flag?
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Find me a bunker?
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It's definitely an area
of interest down here.
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Holy moly.
Look at this.
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It may have been that
Hitler was in Charata
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and then got up and moved
several months later.
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"The Nazis in Misiones
are reported to control
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a system of roadways
known only to them."
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We need Tim Kennedy
there on the ground.
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We've got to do it now.
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narrator: 600 miles
north of Buenos Aires,
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in the remote region
of Misiones, Argentina,
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Tim Kennedy,
U.S. Army Special Forces,
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heads into the dense jungle
to follow a lead
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in a declassified FBI file
that could place Hitler
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living in this area
at one point.
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I'm in a 4x4 truck,
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and it takes forever
to get out here.
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As an archaeologist,
whenever I look at a new site,
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I try and stay
very neutral about it,
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don't get too excited,
so I don't bias my judgment.
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narrator: Bob has arranged
for Philip Kiernan,
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expert on German archaeology,
to join Tim
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in the investigation.
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This site in particular is--
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it seems very problematic
not to get emotionally involved
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to it because
there's so much mystery.
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You know,
there's so many unknowns.
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narrator: For decades,
only legends and local folklore
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have provided an explanation
for three mysterious
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stone structures
isolated from society
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and inaccessible by roads.
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But recently,
a team of archaeologists
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began unearthing artifacts
that suggest
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that this site
served a sinister purpose.
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To provide a safe haven
for Nazis on the run.
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This would've been
way out of town.
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narrator: After driving
through the night,
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Tim and Philip
reach base camp.
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Hello.
Daniel?
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narrator: Daniel Schavelzon,
the director of the dig,
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is responsible for dating
this complex to the 1940s.
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Tim and his crew
will be the first outsiders
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to investigate this site.
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What we are trying to do
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is to understand
who was living there,
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what the purpose
of the buildings,
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when the building was in use.
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A lot of these cans
seem to be same size.
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I don't know if these are
sardines or what.
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Sardines,
corned beef, milk.
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From my perspective,
when you have a hideout,
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it's pre-positioned
and planned,
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and you would find stuff
like this that's sitting there,
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that's ready to be used.
- Yeah.
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This was all canned food,
canned meats.
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Whoever lived here
could've lived off that food
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for a long period of time.
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narrator: Daniel shows
the team the newest discovery
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pulled from the site
just days earlier.
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This is a box made 1940.
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It's engraved,
and we found inside the wall.
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We was lucky to find it.
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Inside, there are
several things.
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Here we have the coins.
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This is very interesting.
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There we go.
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That's a swastika.
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There you are, a Nazi coin
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from the period
of the Third Reich.
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Oh, my God.
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To see a Nazi coin
takes your breath away.
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The swastika, even now,
is so powerful,
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and finding this coin
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is an indication
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that Nazis were living here.
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We have a kid
wearing a Nazi uniform
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with a swastika on his arm.
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It's an incredible picture.
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If you see the other things,
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that's the picture.
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Oh.
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Yeah...
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They just have
Hitler and Mussolini,
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taking a stroll.
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Without a doubt,
this is forensic evidence
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that there were Nazis here.
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After seeing that, I want
to get on that property so bad.
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I want to understand
what was going on there.
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narrator: At first light,
Tim, Philip, and Daniel
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hike deep into the jungle
to investigate the complex.
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I'm coming to this site
with a bunch of questions.
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I want to know
who built this complex.
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Why did they
build this complex?
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If I get
these questions answered,
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I can discern
if it was possible
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a high-level Nazi
could've come here.
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Here you have building one.
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It's an impressive
construction
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in the middle of the jungle...
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made by stones.
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That's the door,
and you have a veranda.
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What's the purpose of a veranda
in the middle of the jungle?
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This is very cosmopolitan.
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This the kind of entrance you
might see to a house in Europe.
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For sure it's not made
by a local architect.
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This is majorly
labor-intensive to build this.
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The choice of material
indicates that,
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so if you wanted to build
something quick and cheap,
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you would use wood or bricks,
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but here they've actually
quarried stone.
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It's a lot more work
than shipping bricks here.
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Oh, absolutely, but if you buy
a great amount of bricks,
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at the city,
everyone know it.
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- Yeah.
- But two or three, four people
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working in the middle
of the jungle, nobody knows.
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We have two bedrooms,
a kitchen, a restroom,
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and the remains
of the original floor,
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blue and yellow tiles.
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See the yellow?
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And the blue.
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This is too much floor
for a jungle house.
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- Whoa.
- It's a real modern restroom.
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That's the place
for the toilet side.
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That's the reservoir
for the tank.
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For the tank.
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And here you have the--
for toilet paper.
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It's too much work.
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This is ornate.
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Did you go in this?
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Wow, look at that.
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- The tiles are glass tiles.
- This is weird.
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It is a two-bedroom,
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one-bath house
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in the middle of
the freaking jungle.
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narrator: Adolf Hitler
was known for his opulence.
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A declassified U.S. military
file from 1943 reports
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that at the height of the war,
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Hitler had a special plane
bringing him asparagus
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and bonbons
fresh daily from Paris,
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and he set up ten
intricately built headquarters
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throughout Europe,
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with his private Berghof
residence in Bavaria
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adorned with
rare marble and wood walls
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and priceless
antique furniture.
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We know
there were Nazis here,
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and this house
was built for somebody
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that has a very
high standard of living.
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Obviously, Hitler is
the figurehead
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to the entire Nazi movement,
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so if that man's on the run,
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it's gonna be a place like this
that he would run to.
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We are on to something.
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This Compound Misiones
is turning out
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to be something important.
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narrator:
CIA veteran Bob Baer
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and war crimes investigator
John Cencich
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review the on-the-ground
findings
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from the jungles of Misiones,
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where a declassified
FBI document led the team
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to a mysterious Nazi complex
in the north of Argentina.
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Who builds a tiled bathroom
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in the middle of the jungle?
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If we were talking
about the 1970s
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and the 1980s,
we're gonna be looking
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at some drug dealers,
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but here, back in the 1940s,
it doesn't fit.
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What kind of Nazi
withdraws deep into the jungle,
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into a fortified compound,
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and this opulence,
except somebody very important?
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Misiones is extremely
interesting
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because if you're protecting
Adolf Hitler,
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he's not gonna show up
and stay at the local hotel.
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And to find a facility
in the Argentine jungle
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tied to Nazi Germany
is huge.
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It gives a lot of validity
to the FBI reports.
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narrator:
With evidence from Misiones
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now providing corroboration
on the FBI files,
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the team considers
opening a new front
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in their investigation.
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We need parallel inquiries.
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We need Tim Kennedy to continue
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digging in South America,
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but the other part
of this equation
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is what happened
in the fuehrer bunker
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in Berlin leading up to
April 30th, 1945?
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I totally agree with you.
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We simply go back
and reexamine Berlin,
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and that's what
really interests me.
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Could he have
faked his death or not?
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There's two sources
of evidence
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that we want
to take a look at.
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narrator:
Two main sources have been used
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throughout history
to determine that Hitler
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committed suicide
in his bunker.
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Source one:
Testimonies from members
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of the Nazi inner circle
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all claim that
Hitler and Eva Braun
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took poison,
and then Hitler shot himself
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before their bodies
were wrapped in blankets,
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carried out of the bunker,
and burned.
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Source two:
Official reports
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from the Soviet troops
who stormed Hitler's bunker
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and controlled
the crime scene,
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along with
all forensic evidence.
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I want to get Lenny DePaul
on the ground in Berlin
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to look at both sources.
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Former U.S. Marshal,
he's done this,
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manhunts,
and if he can establish
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that he did die in the bunker,
this investigation's over,
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of course.
- Right.
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narrator: Lenny DePaul,
one of the most skilled
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man hunters in the world,
makes his way
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through a Nazi bunker
built in 1942.
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I was the commander
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of over 380
full-time investigators.
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We were mandated
by the United States Congress
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to go after the most
violent felony fugitives
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around the world.
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If somebody's on the run,
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we're the ones
that's chasing them.
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The first step
in any investigation
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where somebody has
allegedly killed themselves,
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is to find out if,
in fact, they did do that.
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And I've had fugitives
drive cars off of bridges
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not even being in them.
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If you can prove to me
that Hitler committed suicide
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on that day,
then I pack up and go home.
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If not, I continue
this investigation.
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narrator: Lenny will start
his investigation
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with the first source used
to confirm Hitler's suicide,
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the eyewitness accounts.
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- Sascha.
- Yo.
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narrator:
But seven decades later,
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all of these witnesses
are dead,
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so Lenny has
reached out to Sascha Keil,
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chairman of Berlin Underworld,
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an organization
that has preserved
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the little-seen archives
from the Third Reich.
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What I'm looking
for is eyewitnesses,
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uh, anybody in his
inner circle
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that could positively ID
the body of Hitler.
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Okay.
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Mm-hmm.
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narrator:
After the Nuremberg Trials,
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Michael Musmanno,
one of the presiding judges,
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conduced interviews
with over 200 members
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of Hitler's inner circle,
many who claimed to be
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witnesses to his final days.
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The most important question
was always,
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"Is Hitler still alive
and could he escape?"
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Wow.
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And it's all collected
in this database.
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narrator:
Sascha is the first person
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to compile these hundreds
of hours of testimonies
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into a searchable database.
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What words do you need?
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Uh, let's search for, uh...
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"body,"
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"dead,"
"identity."
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- Searching.
- Look at that.
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I see we got some hits, okay.
- Looks good.
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Hmm.
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"Did Linge say
he was actually present
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when Hitler took the poison?
No."
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Who's Linge?
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Linge was his personal butler
of Hitler,
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and he was during
the whole wartime.
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He was the first person
he saw at the morning.
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He's an important guy.
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One of the most
important eyewitnesses.
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So Linge can't say
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that he was present
when Hitler took the poison.
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I don't buy it.
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Can I see the next one?
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Yeah.
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Who's Jackubeck?
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This was one
of his SS guards.
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"Linge carried Hitler's body
upstairs and outside,
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and Kempka carried
the body of Eva Braun.
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She was wrapped up too.
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That is why Kempka
could not tell
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whether he really had seen
that Hitler was dead
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because he had not
seen the body."
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All right, so basically,
what Jackubeck is saying is,
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he's getting it
as a third-party person.
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It's hearsay.Wow.
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Can I see the next one?
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Here we go again.
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"Gestapo member
Erich Mansfeld,
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he could recognize
the body as being that of a man
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but could not be certain
it was Hitler."
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He couldn't even tell himself,
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'cause he hadn't seen the body.
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That's his testimony.
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No one did.
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You know what, Sascha,
nobody's really identifying
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either one of them,
because they can't see them.
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They're wrapped up in blankets.
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Nobody sees his face
and said, "That's him."
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- Yeah.
- Unless it wasn't Hitler.
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It's easy to say he is,
but no one can prove.
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That's my whole point.
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No one can prove it.
There's no evidence.
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There's nothing that points
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to either Eva Braun
or Adolf Hitler.
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That's the problem.
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If it wasn't Hitler
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or Eva Braun,
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who do you think
this body was?
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Well, in a dictatorship,
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it's a common instrument
to have doubles.
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You had guys
like Osama Bin Laden,
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- Osama Bin Laden...
- I think he had ten
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different body doubles,
so it very well could be
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that the body
that was wrapped up
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in that blanket was not him.
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No one could positively
identify Adolf Hitler
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as the person being
rolled up in that carpet
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and being taken away
by the Russians, nobody.
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So, at this point,
it's an open case.
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Lenny's found reports
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from these eyewitnesses,
but nothing firsthand.
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narrator:
Bob Baer and John Cencich
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review the findings
from both legs
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of their investigation,
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a Nazi complex
in Misiones, Argentina,
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and eyewitness testimony
in Berlin
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that was used to certify
Adolf Hitler's death.
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There's nobody that actually
looked at the body and said,
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"Yeah, that's
the Adolf Hitler I know."
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There's no firsthand evidence.
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I mean,
you're a criminal investigator.
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Have you ever been in a
situation where someone said,
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"I didn't pull the blanket
back, and I don't know
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if that was that really him?"
I mean, or the police--
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No, it's odd.
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Something is afoul.
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00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:33,574
I totally agree,
and number two,
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we got to get Tim
to continue to dig
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at Misiones,
look into this compound.
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A lot of money,
a lot of resources,
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a lot of time
put into this,
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and the fact that
there are Nazi artifacts there,
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what kind of Nazi
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withdraws deep
into the jungle,
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into a fortified compound,
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and this opulence,
except somebody very important?
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If you look at Eichmann,
senior Nazi leaders
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that did make it
to Argentina,
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00:17:57,989 --> 00:17:59,252
these people had to
work for a living.
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They didn't live
in something like this.
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narrator:
Thousands of Nazi war criminals
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found refuge in Argentina,
including Adolf Eichmann,
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one of the masterminds
of the Holocaust.
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Eichmann lived in a small house
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00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:13,788
under the name Ricardo Klement,
eventually becoming a mechanic
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00:18:13,831 --> 00:18:17,444
at the Mercedes-Benz factory
in Buenos Aires.
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00:18:17,487 --> 00:18:20,708
If Nazis in Argentina
could live in the open,
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00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:23,972
whoever this was was somebody
that couldn't live in the open.
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Some Nazi with a lot of money
was scared of something,
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and it wasn't somebody
that Argentina
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would feel comfortable
about giving political exile.
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00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:37,507
This held somebody
very special,
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00:18:37,551 --> 00:18:39,118
and the question is who.
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narrator:
In the dense jungles
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of Misiones...
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Let's go
to the other building.
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narrator: Tim Kennedy
and German archaeology expert
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00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:56,091
Philip Kiernan
continue their investigation
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00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,659
of the three-building
Nazi complex.
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00:18:58,702 --> 00:19:00,661
After discovering
that building number one
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00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:02,402
was an opulent residence,
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00:19:02,445 --> 00:19:04,360
head archaeologist
Daniel Schavelzon
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00:19:04,404 --> 00:19:06,275
leads them
to the second structure,
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00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:08,234
the purpose of which,
even after weeks
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00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:10,845
of close examination,
remains a mystery.
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00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:16,024
This is what we call
building two.
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00:19:16,067 --> 00:19:19,332
The same kind of architecture,
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00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:21,856
the same kind of work
on the stones,
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00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:23,292
but we don't have
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00:19:23,336 --> 00:19:25,599
an explanation
for this building.
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00:19:25,642 --> 00:19:27,644
As the other one,
it was a house.
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00:19:39,395 --> 00:19:42,572
The layout
doesn't make any sense.
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00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:44,226
It had to serve
some functional purpose,
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00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:46,707
but we can't discern
what that is.
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00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:48,883
My first impression
of building two
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is that it feels like a vault.
427
00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:55,063
It's gigantic, thick walls,
428
00:19:55,106 --> 00:19:57,021
but there's a hole
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00:19:57,065 --> 00:19:58,719
that's six, eight inches
off the ground.
430
00:19:58,762 --> 00:20:00,416
It doesn't make any sense
to me.
431
00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:03,550
Right now we have a lot more
questions than we have answers.
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00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:05,987
We're definitely dealing
with a structure
433
00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:07,902
where a huge amount of effort
has been made to create it.
434
00:20:07,945 --> 00:20:10,252
Imagine carrying
all of those stones
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00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,036
from their source,
wherever that was.
436
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,299
That's a heck of
a lot of work
437
00:20:13,342 --> 00:20:14,735
here in the middle
of the jungle.
438
00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:18,260
Do you mind if we look
around a little bit?
439
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:20,175
Oh, yes, of course.
440
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:21,742
Yeah, awesome.
Thanks.
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narrator:
While Philip remains
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at building number two
in hopes of determining
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00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:29,010
the purpose
of this mysterious structure,
444
00:20:29,053 --> 00:20:31,273
Tim heads deeper
into the jungle
445
00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:33,449
to investigate
the third and final building
446
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further up the mountainside.
447
00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:39,238
If we have Hitler
hiding in this house,
448
00:20:39,281 --> 00:20:40,978
you're gonna have
security measures.
449
00:20:41,022 --> 00:20:43,329
Building three,
it's high up on the mountain.
450
00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:44,852
It looks down onto the area
451
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of where building one
and building two are.
452
00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:49,204
My first assumption is that
it's an observation post.
453
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,727
Oh, wow.
454
00:21:04,698 --> 00:21:08,179
But once I was there
and trying to find
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a vantage point
where you could see,
456
00:21:10,094 --> 00:21:11,574
it's difficult.
457
00:21:11,618 --> 00:21:13,315
Your visibility's limited
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00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,795
by the vegetation around you,
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00:21:14,838 --> 00:21:16,405
so it wouldn't make sense.
460
00:21:16,449 --> 00:21:18,320
If I was gonna set up
an observation post,
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00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:20,366
you know,
I'd do it up there.
462
00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:42,039
I went out looking for
an observation post.
463
00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:44,999
What I came across,
really, what I stumbled on,
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was far more important.
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One of the questions that we
had coming into the site--
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these are gigantic buildings
with a ton of stone.
467
00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:54,835
Where did they get
the stone from,
468
00:21:54,878 --> 00:21:56,358
and how did they
get it to the site?
469
00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:58,491
Looks like chisel marks.
470
00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:01,015
This has to be the rock quarry.
471
00:22:01,058 --> 00:22:03,844
Cut there, cut there,
chisel here,
472
00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:06,020
you got your stone.
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00:22:06,063 --> 00:22:07,674
When you see a chisel mark
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at a right angle
to a horizontal line,
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00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:12,026
it brings your attention to it.
476
00:22:12,069 --> 00:22:13,244
They took
a chunk of stone off
477
00:22:13,288 --> 00:22:15,551
right here and right here.
478
00:22:15,595 --> 00:22:18,380
We'll find a whole
bunch more chisel tool marks
479
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:22,906
just like this and this
and this and that and this.
480
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:24,734
Oh, man, look at this.
481
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I stepped right on top of it.
482
00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:35,049
We have a perfect rectangle.
483
00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:38,705
The big question is,
how do you transport them?
484
00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:41,360
How do you get them from here
to your building site?
485
00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:45,407
They didn't get them out
the way I came in.
486
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:49,542
Oh, wow.
487
00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,546
How did they do it
without anybody knowing?
488
00:22:53,589 --> 00:22:56,723
They were right here.
489
00:22:56,766 --> 00:23:00,553
You roll them downhill,
have a boat
490
00:23:00,596 --> 00:23:02,729
transport them around the river
491
00:23:02,772 --> 00:23:06,080
right to your building site.
492
00:23:06,123 --> 00:23:09,257
This could've been
completely built in secret.
493
00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:14,436
It's a horrible thought,
494
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,093
but if you're gonna
tie up loose ends,
495
00:23:19,136 --> 00:23:20,921
the workers have to go too.
496
00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:22,923
Hell, Saddam did it.
497
00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,273
He'd build a palace,
have a safe room,
498
00:23:25,316 --> 00:23:26,622
and the contractors
that built it,
499
00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:29,103
they just disappeared.
500
00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:31,932
We're in the middle
of the jungle.
501
00:23:31,975 --> 00:23:33,455
It's not hard
to hide a body here.
502
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narrator:
Deep in the Argentine jungle,
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00:23:46,686 --> 00:23:49,776
the team follows
a declassified FBI report
504
00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:52,822
that could place Hitler
at a suspected Nazi refuge
505
00:23:52,866 --> 00:23:56,173
months after
he was believed dead.
506
00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:58,654
While Tim Kennedy searches
a quarry to determine
507
00:23:58,698 --> 00:24:01,352
how the site could've been
constructed in secret,
508
00:24:01,396 --> 00:24:04,051
Philip Kiernan joins
a team of archaeologists
509
00:24:04,094 --> 00:24:06,662
investigating
building number two.
510
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,490
The purpose
of the mysterious structure
511
00:24:08,534 --> 00:24:11,014
has baffled experts for years.
512
00:24:11,058 --> 00:24:12,581
Based on the finds
that Daniel tells me
513
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:14,365
he's recovered
in house number two,
514
00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:17,020
fragments of iron,
fragments of iron tools,
515
00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:19,283
it seems much more likely
that we're dealing here
516
00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:23,766
with a workshop
than a domestic structure.
517
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:26,856
narrator: After days
of working the site,
518
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:30,164
the team makes
a significant find.
519
00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:39,782
Wow.
520
00:24:39,826 --> 00:24:44,526
Wow, it goes at least
eight, nine feet back.
521
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:47,007
It's clear there's a tunnel
underneath the house,
522
00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:50,227
and it occurred to me it must be
some kind of drainage feature,
523
00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:52,882
a feature for moving water.
524
00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,319
The water input
seems to be here.
525
00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,452
It entered the building
through this hole,
526
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,020
and it looks like the water's
almost flowing into there.
527
00:25:00,063 --> 00:25:01,412
So if this theory's right,
528
00:25:01,456 --> 00:25:02,762
the water's flowing in here
529
00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:04,546
and then into this hole,
530
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,244
and then it should be
coming out down there.
531
00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:09,072
As I thought about it
more and more,
532
00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:12,032
it occurred to me that this
tunnel was leading water
533
00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:14,295
from a higher point
behind the house,
534
00:25:14,338 --> 00:25:16,602
through the house, and out.
535
00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:18,734
What purpose could that be for?
536
00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:21,128
I think we're looking at a mill,
537
00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:24,261
something that uses
the power of water
538
00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:27,264
to turn a wheel
to generate electricity.
539
00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:28,788
The big question, of course,
540
00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:30,746
is, "Where did that water
come from?"
541
00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:33,227
The next thing to do
is to go up the hill
542
00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:34,750
to see where in
a straight line,
543
00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:37,100
that might be coming from.
544
00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:39,581
narrator:
Philip's climb leads him
545
00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:43,280
to building three,
near the peak of the mountain.
546
00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:47,197
That's the real beginning.
547
00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:49,330
That looks
very convincing.
548
00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:51,941
It might be that there was
a metal tank in this room
549
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:53,639
that filled up with water,
and the mechanical force
550
00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:56,119
of gravity is being used
to speed up water
551
00:25:56,163 --> 00:25:57,773
to reach the mill
down below.
552
00:25:57,817 --> 00:25:59,819
narrator: Philip believes
rain would collect
553
00:25:59,862 --> 00:26:02,735
in building three, and flow
through a series of tunnels
554
00:26:02,778 --> 00:26:04,519
downhill
to building number two,
555
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,956
where the water
would turn a large mill wheel,
556
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480
creating a reliable source
of electricity
557
00:26:09,524 --> 00:26:11,961
completely off the grid.
558
00:26:12,005 --> 00:26:14,137
This isn't
the kind of technology
559
00:26:14,181 --> 00:26:15,486
that one would expect to find
560
00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:16,618
out in the middle of the jungle.
561
00:26:16,662 --> 00:26:18,359
This site is producing
562
00:26:18,402 --> 00:26:21,014
a heck of a lot of finds.
563
00:26:21,057 --> 00:26:23,625
You know, if they had
power and batteries,
564
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:25,540
those are big checks
565
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,586
regarding the feasibility
566
00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:30,501
of this being
a real hideout location
567
00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:33,635
for somebody on the run.
568
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,202
Looking at this compound,
569
00:26:35,245 --> 00:26:36,812
they had everything
that they needed
570
00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:39,162
to be completely
self-sufficient.
571
00:26:39,206 --> 00:26:41,164
They had canned food.
572
00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:42,992
They sourced their materials
from right here,
573
00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:44,820
so that they didn't
have to buy them.
574
00:26:44,864 --> 00:26:48,345
It has running water,
so they might have electricity.
575
00:26:48,389 --> 00:26:52,393
It is pristinely designed
to hide a high-value target.
576
00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,008
narrator: On their
last night in Misiones,
577
00:26:59,052 --> 00:27:02,098
Daniel shows the team
the latest stash of objects
578
00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:04,623
his archaeologists
just unearthed from the site.
579
00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:16,722
Adolf Hitler suffered from
580
00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,637
severe, chronic stomach cramps
581
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,203
and digestive problems.
582
00:27:20,247 --> 00:27:23,119
In 1943, a secret
U.S. military document
583
00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:25,861
reported that Hitler
was "in fairly good health
584
00:27:25,905 --> 00:27:27,733
except for his
stomach ailment,"
585
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,039
and a diary
of Hitler's physician reported
586
00:27:30,083 --> 00:27:33,390
that by December 1945,
his abdominal pain
587
00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:35,784
was the strongest affliction
"of his whole life."
588
00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:43,923
I can't even believe
I'm seeing this.
589
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:52,627
Hitler has a serious ailment,
590
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:56,152
and stockpiles of medicine
for that type of problem
591
00:27:56,196 --> 00:27:58,459
are found in this building
in Misiones.
592
00:27:58,502 --> 00:28:00,722
It's something
that you certainly
593
00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:02,245
can't cast your eye away from.
594
00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:04,160
For me, it's a huge
breakthrough.
595
00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:07,250
We are just simply
looking at the possibility.
596
00:28:07,294 --> 00:28:09,600
If the Nazis had
moved him from Germany,
597
00:28:09,644 --> 00:28:12,603
could they have
hidden him in Argentina,
598
00:28:12,647 --> 00:28:15,998
and taken care of his health
problems and his security?
599
00:28:16,042 --> 00:28:19,045
And the Misiones
compound says yes.
600
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:25,355
In Misiones,
we've got Nazi artifacts,
601
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:29,490
a fugitive's lair of somebody
of extreme importance,
602
00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:32,449
and now we've got
stomach medicine
603
00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:34,756
which matches
the type of medicine
604
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,758
that Adolf Hitler took.
605
00:28:36,802 --> 00:28:39,892
My imagination runs
to figure out
606
00:28:39,935 --> 00:28:41,284
who else could this be,
607
00:28:41,328 --> 00:28:43,112
other than somebody
very important
608
00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:45,636
on the level of Adolf Hitler.
609
00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:54,471
We do not have
an independent,
610
00:28:54,515 --> 00:28:57,779
reliable, objective view
611
00:28:57,823 --> 00:28:59,825
of Hitler's
last days.
612
00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:02,392
There's so many witness
statements that were given.
613
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:07,571
Not one says that they saw
Adolf Hitler kill himself.
614
00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:10,836
What they saw was a body
come out of the bunker,
615
00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:13,752
presumably Hitler's,
but it's in a blanket.
616
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,580
They take it out in the garden,
617
00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:19,583
throw gasoline on it,
and burn it.
618
00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:22,586
Then the Russians come
and they see bodies.
619
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:24,763
And one's in a blanket,
620
00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:26,634
and somebody says,
"That must be Hitler."
621
00:29:26,677 --> 00:29:28,114
But how do they even
know it's Hitler?
622
00:29:28,157 --> 00:29:29,637
I mean, they don't know.
- They don't.
623
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,899
You don't collect forensics
624
00:29:30,943 --> 00:29:32,553
in the middle of a war.
625
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,424
You don't hold up your hand
and say, "Oh, excuse me,
626
00:29:34,468 --> 00:29:36,600
"I'd like to get the DNA
off this corpse
627
00:29:36,644 --> 00:29:37,776
because I don't know
where he's from."
628
00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:38,907
It doesn't happen that way.
629
00:29:38,951 --> 00:29:40,604
I want to see
630
00:29:40,648 --> 00:29:42,041
some scientific evidence,
631
00:29:42,084 --> 00:29:44,260
just a piece of forensics
632
00:29:44,304 --> 00:29:46,262
that would suggest
he really died here.
633
00:29:46,306 --> 00:29:48,264
narrator:
Bob shifts the investigation
634
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:51,615
to the second source used
to confirm Hitler's suicide,
635
00:29:51,659 --> 00:29:53,617
the forensic reports
from the Soviet troops
636
00:29:53,661 --> 00:29:55,576
who collected
Hitler's supposed remains.
637
00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:58,100
There's the potential
for that.
638
00:29:58,144 --> 00:30:00,799
There's the skull
that remained
639
00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:02,888
in Russian control.
640
00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,454
narrator:
The Soviets kept the skull
641
00:30:04,498 --> 00:30:05,629
they allege to be Hitler's
642
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:08,284
under lock and key until 2009,
643
00:30:08,328 --> 00:30:10,286
when the first and only
American scientist,
644
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:13,115
Dr. Nicholas Bellantoni,
was granted access.
645
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:16,640
He took samples back to his lab
and using DNA analysis,
646
00:30:16,684 --> 00:30:19,643
determined the skull
belonged to a woman in her 30s.
647
00:30:19,687 --> 00:30:21,471
It could've been
Eva Braun's.
648
00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,517
We don't know.
It's female, right age,
649
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,128
but if we could prove
that was her DNA,
650
00:30:26,172 --> 00:30:28,304
we are now in a position to say,
651
00:30:28,348 --> 00:30:31,568
"We don't have a clue
what happened to Hitler."
652
00:30:31,612 --> 00:30:33,657
Okay, so let's call Nick.
653
00:30:37,009 --> 00:30:38,793
We need forensic science
to help
654
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,622
make this picture clearer,
655
00:30:41,665 --> 00:30:44,494
and he's our only hope.
656
00:30:44,538 --> 00:30:47,149
So, you went to Russia, huh?
657
00:30:47,193 --> 00:30:50,674
We did have an opportunity
to examine
658
00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:54,069
the cranial wall fragment that
they believed was Adolf Hitler,
659
00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:57,986
but the cranium was actually
housed in a rolodex container,
660
00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:01,163
and it had been
jostled by movement,
661
00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:03,078
and it was charred.
662
00:31:03,122 --> 00:31:05,689
You could see black scorching
around the edges,
663
00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:07,996
and it had an exit bullet wound
664
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,868
coming out
the back of the head.
665
00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:11,391
There was an exit wound?
666
00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:13,480
It was clearly an exit wound,
absolutely.
667
00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:15,090
You think it was
Eva Braun's skull?
668
00:31:15,134 --> 00:31:16,526
You know, Eva Braun
669
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:18,354
clearly fits the profile.
670
00:31:18,398 --> 00:31:21,140
The only contradiction would be
the interrogations
671
00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:23,882
of the Germans that were
in the bunker
672
00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:25,709
who don't refer
to her being shot
673
00:31:25,753 --> 00:31:28,538
but do refer to Adolf Hitler
as being shot.
674
00:31:28,582 --> 00:31:30,192
Now, if we had a sample
675
00:31:30,236 --> 00:31:34,936
from a living relative
of Eva Braun, would we
676
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:38,505
come closer to identifying
whether or not the skull
677
00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:41,116
was indeed Eva Braun's?
- Yeah.
678
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,336
Wouldn't that be exciting
to be able to
679
00:31:43,379 --> 00:31:44,903
try to match that up?
680
00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:47,209
And if new samples
were available,
681
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:48,428
that would just be great.
682
00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:51,083
If the DNA from that skull
683
00:31:51,126 --> 00:31:53,215
turns out to be Eva Braun's,
684
00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:55,957
and in fact,
she died of a bullet wound,
685
00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:57,741
everything we've been told
686
00:31:57,785 --> 00:31:59,918
about the final days
in the bunker
687
00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,571
is thrown into doubt.
688
00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:05,053
We have to, first of all,
689
00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:08,056
demonstrate just how bad
the evidence is.
690
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,276
If it is her skull,
691
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,757
and there was only one shot
coming from the bunker,
692
00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:16,151
we know that shot
didn't kill Hitler.
693
00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:19,067
And the plot really thickens
because that suggests strongly
694
00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:20,416
that Hitler was complicit
in her death,
695
00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:23,158
and then she dies
on the scene,
696
00:32:23,202 --> 00:32:25,421
and he flees.
697
00:32:25,465 --> 00:32:26,988
I think that's huge.
It's huge.
698
00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:31,993
So we are way far
from certifying his death.
699
00:32:40,654 --> 00:32:42,786
narrator: In a small suburb
in southwest Germany,
700
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:45,398
Lenny DePaul
and German private investigator
701
00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:48,879
Stephan Schlentrich are on
the hunt for forensic evidence.
702
00:32:48,923 --> 00:32:50,403
We have
a very good chance
703
00:32:50,446 --> 00:32:52,709
to get good DNA
if we need it.
704
00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,450
That's extremely important.
705
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:56,975
narrator: They head
to the home of the only known
706
00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,454
living relative of Eva Braun.
707
00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:00,456
My suggestion
is that we do
708
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:04,417
a very smooth approach,
and maybe I go alone.
709
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:06,114
We need to see
if we can get some DNA
710
00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,290
from Eva Braun's
only living relative
711
00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:10,640
and try to prove
that the skeleton remains
712
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,468
that were found by the Russians
713
00:33:12,512 --> 00:33:13,774
were, in fact, Eva Braun's.
714
00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:15,471
If she consents,
715
00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:16,995
we should be able to
break this case wide open.
716
00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:18,474
I think we got
one shot at this.
717
00:33:18,518 --> 00:33:19,823
You go up by yourself.
718
00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:21,477
- Yes.
- You know, work you magic.
719
00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:24,132
I'm really thinking
about how far I can go
720
00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,526
and how she will react.
721
00:33:26,569 --> 00:33:27,657
You know,
everything can happen.
722
00:33:27,701 --> 00:33:29,964
So, Buddy,
I leave you here, huh?
723
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,313
Yeah, go work
your magic, man.
724
00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:32,662
Come back with some
good news, will you?
725
00:33:32,706 --> 00:33:34,708
Okay.
726
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,746
Any luck?
727
00:34:59,358 --> 00:35:01,403
Bad news.
728
00:35:01,447 --> 00:35:04,580
She refused to give me
any information.
729
00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:07,322
Oh, no.
730
00:35:07,366 --> 00:35:09,063
It was very clear for me
731
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,587
after a couple of minutes
that the family
732
00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:16,592
would really like
to end with all that,
733
00:35:16,636 --> 00:35:18,464
not to talk about their history,
734
00:35:18,507 --> 00:35:21,771
not to talk about
the relationship to Eva Braun.
735
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:23,947
I was not so happy with it,
736
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:26,776
but I think
we have to respect that.
737
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:28,126
She's the only
living relative?
738
00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:29,170
Yes, absolutely
the only one.
739
00:35:29,214 --> 00:35:30,563
That's the only shot we had.
740
00:35:30,606 --> 00:35:32,695
So the forensics window
is shut,
741
00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:34,219
is that what you're telling me?
- Yeah.
742
00:35:34,262 --> 00:35:35,785
No more living relatives?
743
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:37,613
For here and for Germany,
yes, unfortunately.
744
00:35:37,657 --> 00:35:39,702
It's too bad that
Stephan was not successful
745
00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:41,617
in drawing any DNA,
but he did it right.
746
00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:45,012
He respected her thoughts
and her family's decision,
747
00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:46,970
and we're moving on.
748
00:35:47,014 --> 00:35:48,189
Well, we're gonna have to
go down another road.
749
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,713
We got to figure
something out.
750
00:35:57,024 --> 00:36:00,549
So it's a wash on the DNA.
751
00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:01,942
We're just not getting any DNA.
752
00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:04,553
We're missing
all sorts of evidence
753
00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:05,902
that he died there.
754
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:07,339
We have no forensics,
755
00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:09,079
no eyewitnesses.
756
00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:11,081
Based upon this
lack of evidence,
757
00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:13,519
it's certainly
a strong possibility
758
00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:16,391
that some aspects of suicides
that occurred
759
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:19,220
in the fuehrer bunker
were staged.
760
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:20,961
It is possible
that he faked his death.
761
00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:23,355
The question now is,
how did he get out
762
00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:24,921
without anybody noticing
763
00:36:24,965 --> 00:36:27,402
and certainly getting
around Russian lines?
764
00:36:27,446 --> 00:36:30,579
Berlin at this point,
is under artillery fire.
765
00:36:30,623 --> 00:36:33,408
This late in April 1945,
766
00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:36,106
this is a city under siege.
767
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:39,414
Been in a lot of firefights
and around a lot of war.
768
00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:40,937
It would've been very difficult
769
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:42,287
for Adolf Hitler
to get out of Berlin.
770
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:43,723
The problem, of course,
771
00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:45,768
is we don't have
the crime scene.
772
00:36:45,812 --> 00:36:48,771
narrator: In 1999,
Hitler's fuehrer bunker
773
00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:52,210
was filled in and paved over
to make way for a parking lot,
774
00:36:52,253 --> 00:36:56,431
destroying critical evidence
of Hitler's possible escape.
775
00:36:56,475 --> 00:36:58,216
In any criminal
investigation,
776
00:36:58,259 --> 00:37:01,131
it's always best to go back
to the scene of the crime.
777
00:37:01,175 --> 00:37:02,524
In this case, we can't do it,
778
00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,483
but we have access
to the next best thing.
779
00:37:04,526 --> 00:37:06,659
That's the forensic
reconstruction
780
00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,138
of the fuehrer bunker.
781
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:09,488
narrator:
Forensic historian
782
00:37:09,531 --> 00:37:11,707
and 3-D artist
Christoph Neubauer
783
00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:14,014
has spent a decade
scouring historical evidence
784
00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:17,017
to create the world's
most accurate simulation
785
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:18,801
of Hitler's bunker.
786
00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:20,586
It's based upon
looking at documents,
787
00:37:20,629 --> 00:37:23,632
interviewing eyewitnesses,
all of this put together,
788
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:28,463
synthesized, distilled,
made into 3-D images.
789
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:30,291
It's allowed us to peer in
790
00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:33,381
to the bowels
of the fuehrer bunker.
791
00:37:35,165 --> 00:37:37,472
You never want a bunker
to become a prison.
792
00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:39,648
You always want to have
an escape route.
793
00:37:39,692 --> 00:37:41,302
The escape route clearly
794
00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,305
couldn't be
across Berlin in a car.
795
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:46,002
It just--you can't make it.
796
00:37:46,046 --> 00:37:47,830
Even in a tank,
you couldn't make it
797
00:37:47,874 --> 00:37:49,832
at that point.
So what you want to do
798
00:37:49,876 --> 00:37:51,443
is, like any
sort of rodent,
799
00:37:51,486 --> 00:37:54,924
you want to go underground
and appear someplace else.
800
00:37:54,968 --> 00:37:57,623
There's a massive
web of tunnels
801
00:37:57,666 --> 00:38:01,148
that are underneath Berlin that
go in all different directions.
802
00:38:01,191 --> 00:38:03,498
There's four exits
to the fuehrer bunker.
803
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:08,329
What intrigues me the most
are exits number two and four.
804
00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:11,854
They both make their way
to underground tunnels.
805
00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:13,856
What we need to do
now, really, is to
806
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:15,945
get Lenny DePaul over there.
807
00:38:15,989 --> 00:38:19,035
Let's see--is there a way
for him to get out of Berlin
808
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:21,821
via this massive
web of tunnels?
809
00:38:21,864 --> 00:38:23,692
Yep, I like it.
810
00:38:34,094 --> 00:38:35,878
This is it?
Right here?
811
00:38:35,922 --> 00:38:36,879
That's the entrance.
812
00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:37,880
- Wow.
- Yeah.
813
00:38:37,924 --> 00:38:39,360
Please help me here.
814
00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:40,927
narrator:
To give Lenny a sense of
815
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:42,711
the massive scale
of the tunnel system
816
00:38:42,755 --> 00:38:44,539
built under Hitler's regime,
817
00:38:44,583 --> 00:38:46,976
Sascha accesses
a rarely-seen section
818
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:48,369
of Berlin's underground.
819
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,240
Boy, this is really
tucked away and nowhere.
820
00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:51,372
So this isn't open
to the public?
821
00:38:51,416 --> 00:38:52,678
Nobody goes down here?
822
00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:54,244
Nobody knows,
823
00:38:54,288 --> 00:38:56,377
so they cannot go down here.
824
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:57,900
- Wow.
- The neighbors don't know.
825
00:38:57,944 --> 00:38:59,685
It's a hidden place.
826
00:38:59,728 --> 00:39:02,383
Let's go, man.
This is exciting.
827
00:39:02,427 --> 00:39:04,733
To take a look at
what the possible resources
828
00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:06,735
that Adolf Hitler could've had
829
00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:08,737
gives me a great idea
as a fugitive investigator,
830
00:39:08,781 --> 00:39:11,392
in what was at his disposal
and how he could've used them.
831
00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:13,307
Yes.
832
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:16,397
- You okay?
- Yeah.
833
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:17,790
Wow.
834
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:20,836
Whew, that's quite a drop.
835
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:34,763
Wow, look at this.
836
00:39:34,807 --> 00:39:37,766
Look at that.
837
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,205
How many of these tunnels
exist under Berlin?
838
00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:57,090
When was this tunnel built
or tunnels like this?
839
00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:27,337
Wow.
840
00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:28,817
narrator:
Under Nazi rule,
841
00:40:28,861 --> 00:40:30,645
Berlin's underground
was expanded
842
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,865
into a sprawling web
of 93 miles
843
00:40:32,908 --> 00:40:35,041
of interconnected
tunnels and bunkers.
844
00:40:35,084 --> 00:40:37,086
This multi-storied underground
845
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:40,002
had independent power,
heating, and ventilation.
846
00:40:40,046 --> 00:40:43,484
Hitler and Albert Speer
built this city beneath a city
847
00:40:43,528 --> 00:40:45,355
to move hundreds
of thousands of people
848
00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:47,227
efficiently throughout Berlin,
849
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:50,448
but once the war was lost,
these tunnels provided Nazis
850
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:53,015
with safe shelter
and a means of escape.
851
00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,545
Look how dark it is.
Shut your light off.
852
00:41:01,937 --> 00:41:03,983
Yeah, these tunnels
go for miles.
853
00:41:16,909 --> 00:41:19,346
So they had no idea
that the underground world
854
00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:21,391
existed in Berlin.
855
00:41:26,353 --> 00:41:27,572
Wow.
856
00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:29,312
Boy, what a perfect
escape route.
857
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,708
In a subterranean environment
like this,
858
00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:35,536
not knowing the lay of the land,
859
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:39,235
it would be hell
trying to find somebody.
860
00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:42,543
You could get lost for days,
probably weeks down here.
861
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:44,414
So you're up against it.
862
00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:46,025
It's dark, you don't know
where you're going,
863
00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:47,461
and the people
you're looking for
864
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,811
are armed
and extremely dangerous.
865
00:41:49,855 --> 00:41:53,467
What a perfect place for Hitler
and Eva Braun to escape in.
866
00:42:01,649 --> 00:42:02,911
Yeah, it makes no sense.
867
00:42:08,134 --> 00:42:10,179
Knowing the Russians were
not gonna come down there,
868
00:42:10,223 --> 00:42:11,833
why would he kill himself?
869
00:42:11,877 --> 00:42:15,315
So, was he able to escape
and get out of Berlin?
870
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:17,360
We're gonna find out.
871
00:42:19,493 --> 00:42:22,322
narrator: Next time
on "Hunting Hitler"...
872
00:42:26,326 --> 00:42:30,373
A German submarine?
873
00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:32,332
That's the way
I'd get there.
874
00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:34,769
Underwater, there's no way
to detect these things.
875
00:42:34,813 --> 00:42:36,118
Where there's smoke,
there's fire.
876
00:42:36,162 --> 00:42:38,120
Three crewmembers
877
00:42:38,164 --> 00:42:40,862
clearly saw a submarine
emerge and submerge.
878
00:42:40,906 --> 00:42:42,298
What happened
to the sub?
879
00:42:42,342 --> 00:42:43,561
They don't know.
880
00:42:45,171 --> 00:42:47,303
We need to find out
where this leads.
881
00:42:47,347 --> 00:42:49,044
Look at this.
882
00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:53,092
Adolf Hitler, his mindset
was escape, escape, escape.
883
00:42:53,135 --> 00:42:55,398
He's gonna do
whatever it takes.
884
00:42:55,442 --> 00:42:57,487
Do you think Adolf Hitler
was on one of these submarines?
885
00:42:57,531 --> 00:43:00,882
- As if a king had arrived.
- As if a king.
886
00:43:00,926 --> 00:43:03,363
Oh, man,
I've got something right here.
887
00:43:03,406 --> 00:43:04,973
Holy [bleep].
888
00:43:05,017 --> 00:43:06,758
Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa.
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