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NARRATOR: A derelict compound in
Texas,
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once the epicentre of a violent
revolution.
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It was exciting, but it was also
dangerous.
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Bullets were flying, artillery
shells were going off.
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They had front row seats to this
amazing battle.
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A top secret facility outside Berlin
used by a ruthless dictator
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to escape justice.
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This place should have lost all
relevance,
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but it had one final dramatic
mission to carry out.
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An aristocratic party palace that
became an IRA stronghold.
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The women would use these statues,
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these symbols of colonial
oppression, as target practice.
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And in Spain, a medieval fortress
town abandoned under duress.
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MAN:Events beyond the perimeter of
the walls finally overcame
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these defences and left behind a
tragic legacy.
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NARRATOR: In downtown El Paso, Texas,
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a hollow construction holds a
revolutionary history.
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MAN:It's a very attractive, stately
old building,
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but once you go inside,
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it's a pretty sad state of affairs.
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MAN:There's wires hanging out of the
ceiling.
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Windows are taken out of their
frames and stacked up.
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Nearby, right next to the freeway,
which straddles the border,
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a second abandoned building was
embroiled
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in the same dramatic struggle.
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WOMAN:It's a huge warehouse-style
building.
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It looks like it might have once
been a small industrial operation
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of some kind.
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The rooftop is a prime vantage point
to look right across the border
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into the neighbouring Mexican
city of Juarez.
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And if you look closely, you'll see
that there's damage on the walls.
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Pivotal in the birth of the Mexican
state,
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these bullet holes are remnants
of a time when El Paso was caught
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in violent crossfire.
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So the question is, how are these
two buildings,
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this one here on the border, this
one here in the city,
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how are they connected?
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These buildings might look a little
forlorn today,
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but there was a time when this town
was a hotbed
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of international intrigue.
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From here, a revolution was planned
and a war was launched,
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while citizens watched from the
rooftops.
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El Paso was once Spanish territory,
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but it became part of the United
States
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when America annexed Texas in 1845.
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It began as a trading post and
became one of the most important
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points of contact between the US
and Mexico.
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Between 1890 and 1910, the
population of El Paso quadruples.
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You see this explosive growth
as kind of a window
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on America's southern border, and an
outlet and an inlet for trade.
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This, once ornate, structure was born
during that early prosperity.
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Richard Caples was a former mayor of
El Paso
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and, kind of, a local big shot.
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He had big plans for the city and
wanted to help it grow.
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Construction began on this building
in 1909.
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It was planned as a five-storey
office building
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with retail on the ground floor.
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It was built at tremendous cost,
$135,000 at the time,
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which works out to be $4.5 or $5
million today.
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This is the Caples Building, named
after its owner.
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It was still under construction
when the abandoned warehouse,
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half a mile away, hosted an iconic
meeting of presidents.
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The gathering took place in front
of the El Paso Laundry,
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which sits right on the border.
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There was an historic international
meeting between Mexican President,
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Porfirio Diaz, and American
President, William Taft.
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This was an important turning point
in Mexican American relations.
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People crowded around this street,
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so much so, that the American
soldiers
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had to push back the crowds
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when they saw the carriage of
President Diaz come along.
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And when he came, there was a 21-gun
salute, first by the American army,
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and then it echoed towards the
Mexican side of the river.
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And then, the Mexicans also did a
21-gun salute.
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David Dorado Romo understands the
subtext of this event.
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There seemed to be a lot of
agreement and harmony,
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but that was just for public show.
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Diaz was really the archetype
of a corrupt dictator.
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He maintained his power by crushing
dissent,
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not really allowing a free press,
favouring certain elites.
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He was also known to be in the
pocket of big American businesses.
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In El Paso, Diaz was seeking to
further cement
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American support along the border
in the run-up to a crucial election,
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one that had already been mired in
controversy.
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A couple of years earlier, Diaz had
said that he'd be ready to step down
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and the country could have free
elections really for the first time,
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and he would walk quietly off into
the sunset.
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But when that day came, Diaz
decided to run for president,
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and he didn't exactly play fair.
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Diaz had thrown his main political
opponent, a formidable man
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by the name of Francisco Madero,
in jail during the proceedings.
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This was clearly not a free and
open election.
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And it was Madero
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who became the face of the Mexican
people's burning resentment.
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Madero actually managed to escape
from prison, and he headed
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across the border to El Paso.
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At that time, that wasn't a major
division.
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There was no barbed wire. There was
no fence.
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Mexicans could cross freely.
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So Madero snuck into El Paso
disguised as a labourer,
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and took up residence on the top
two floors
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of the newly completed Caples
Building.
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He made it the epicentre of his
endeavours,
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and he really only had one goal,
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and that was to violently overthrow
the Diaz regime.
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So, on this floor, the international
headquarters
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of the Mexican Revolution was
situated in early 1911.
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So this was a place that would
have served for diplomatic,
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administrative, but also arms
smuggling
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and of course, recruitment.
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Madero even managed to gain
the support
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of legendary Mexican revolutionary,
Pancho Villa,
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which earned him some significant
clout.
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With an open border,
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these headquarters were at the heart
of an explosion of activity.
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El Paso then really became this hub
of different revolutionary groups
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who all set up shop in different
bars, restaurants and buildings
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throughout the city.
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Throughout the revolutionary period,
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the American government would change
their allegiance.
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Despite Madero advocating democracy,
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the US eventually issued a warrant
for his arrest.
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During my research, I found more
than 80 buildings,
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that are still standing here in El
Paso, that have connections
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to the Mexican Revolution.
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There were probably hundreds,
if not thousands of spies.
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Every little nook and cranny,
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you're gonna find people plotting
revolution or counter-revolution
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or even counter-counter-revolution.
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A lot of people have compared
El Paso to East and West Berlin
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during the Cold War.
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You had Madero and his associates
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plotting, raising money, building
support.
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Diaz had his spies gathering
information.
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No one really knew who was
on what side or who you could trust.
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And it was all building
to a truly violent conflict.
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On the 7th of April, 1911, Madero
made his move against Diaz
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and his troops.
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A rebel offensive known as the
Battle of Ciudad Juarez.
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Madero had put together a force
of 2500 men,
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but Juarez was well-defended by 700
Mexican federal troops
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who were in a very good defensive
position.
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They had artillery. They had plenty
of weapons.
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Madero was happy to just call it a
stalemate and start negotiating.
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But one notorious gunslinger in the
rebel's ranks had come for a fight.
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The time for talking was over.
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While Madero sought to negotiate
a surrender,
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the more aggressive Pancho Villa
disobeyed orders.
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He went ahead and led his troops
on the attack,
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and a raging battle commenced.
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In the city of El Paso this was
very exciting.
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They were right on the border.
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People climbed to the rooftop
of the laundry building
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where they had front-row seats
to this amazing battle.
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So, this was one of many rooftops
in El Paso
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where people would stand on top.
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There were some where you would
have to pay a quarter to a dollar
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to watch the revolutionary scenes.
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They were treated to a spectacle
straight out of the Wild West.
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One story is that in one moment,
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one of the federal soldiers dropped
his gun,
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and one of the revolutionaries got
out his lariat and lassoed the guy.
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He is able to, like a Mexican
cowboy,
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bring him in together with his gun.
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And people on the rooftops started
applauding,
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just like if it were some kind of
ringside seat.
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But it ended up becoming a much
more deadly spectator sport.
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These citizens didn't realise
how close they were to the danger,
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and five were killed and 18 wounded
in El Paso
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from fighting that was taking place
in Juarez.
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Today we just let the newscasters
take that danger.
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Back then, everybody wanted to be
part of the act.
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So, these bullet holes actually
have a lot more significance
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than meets the eyes.
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They were part of the story of the
Mexican Revolution.
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Eventually, after two days of
intense fighting,
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the Juarez garrison was forced to
surrender.
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This Battle of Juarez became the
decisive battle of the Revolution.
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It was enough to show that the
forces loyal to Diaz
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could not control the revolutionary
troops.
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Diaz fled Mexico, leaving its
leadership up for grabs.
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Madero eventually came to power
in late 1911,
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but he proved to be too moderate.
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By 1913, another Mexican general led
a US-backed coup, and unfortunately,
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Madero died in the resulting
conflict.
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What initially was a relatively
bloodless revolution
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is going to become ten years
of incredible civil strife,
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and you're gonna have hundreds
of thousands of Mexican refugees
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crossing to the United States.
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My grandparents came to Ciudad
Juarez and then later to El Paso,
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fleeing the violence during this
period after the Madero revolution.
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One of my great aunts had been
kidnapped, literally
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kidnapped by one of the federal
officers.
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America's role in the revolution
was a sign of things to come
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across the continent.
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That's a story that's going to
repeat itself
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for decades in Latin America, where
you have US military intervention
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or you have the CIA overthrow
democratically-elected governments.
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And as a result, you're gonna have
social chaos,
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people fleeing into the United
States.
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While the laundry would continue
to operate for many more years,
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the Caples Building endured long
periods of vacancy
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before both were eventually
abandoned.
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These structures are symbolic of
tensions that remain
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along the border to this day.
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But a developer has purchased both
properties with hopes
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of transforming them into apartment
buildings.
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If that happens, the future
residents can certainly claim
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that they live in a location of
historic intrigue.
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In eastern Germany, just 25 miles
from Berlin,
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a secretive complex lies hidden in
the woods.
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HE SPEAKS GERMAN
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WOMAN:Looking at the security
around this place,
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this must have been one of the most
closely guarded places
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in all of East Germany.
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It's only when you go deep into the
heart of the site
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that its scale becomes apparent.
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We can see here that nature has
reclaimed something
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and it has reclaimed something big.
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You see a collection of buildings
that could house
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a city of thousands.
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But as with any ghost town, you
have to ask yourself,
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"What happened to all the people?"
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You go inside - cobwebs, trash,
crumbling masonry,
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tumbledown structures that are
fading or flecked or graffitied.
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But through the thick foliage, a
different style of structure
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begins to emerge.
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We've got something.
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It's boarded up, and yet, you can
tell what it is.
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This is a control tower.
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This is an airfield.
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There's one massive building, near
the runways,
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clearly an aircraft hangar.
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This facility would provide an
escape route
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for a ruthless dictator desperately
fleeing justice.
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Sven-Uwe Storm grew up nearby,
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eager to understand why this site was
out of bounds.
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And access is still forbidden,
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due to the high risk of unexploded
ordnance.
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That's because this location has a
long history as a weapons test site,
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which began in the late 1800s.
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This was a place where they tested
rifles, artillery, rockets,
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and this was a place where Wernher
von Braun,
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the father of German rocketry, came
to test his missiles.
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They even conducted experiments
on uranium for a German atomic bomb.
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But in April 1945, Soviet troops
were rapidly approaching
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through these thick forests, as the
allies closed in on Berlin.
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In the aftermath of the Second World
War, this complex was incorporated
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into Soviet territory.
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Germany was carved up among the
victorious allies,
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with the Soviets occupying East
Germany.
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They split Germany with the Western
powers,
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but they also split the city of
Berlin,
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which is inside the Soviet zone.
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Initially just a line drawn on a map,
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in time it would become a physical
wall,
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as the two camps polarised along
ideological lines.
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The formation of the North Atlantic
Treaty Organisation, or NATO,
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in 1949, was seen by the Soviets
as a hostile act.
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West Germany joined NATO in 1955,
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and Khrushchev formed the Warsaw
Pact in response.
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So, now you have these two opposing
alliances, one western, one eastern,
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and it feels like things are
hotting up.
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And for the Soviets, this is the
front line in the clash
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with the Western powers in the Cold
War.
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With a thousand miles separating
Moscow from Berlin,
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this location was earmarked to
supply that front line.
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This is Sperenberg airfield, the key
link between East Germany
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and the Soviet Union.
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In 1958, the first phase of
construction was rolled out,
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as the site was converted into a
military airfield,
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capable of handling huge transport
planes.
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Anything that the Soviets were
bringing into Germany,
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to prepare to fight against NATO,
came into this airport.
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In the 1960s, the boundary dividing
Berlin
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was fortified by the East German
government.
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Desperate to prevent its citizens
from fleeing into West Germany,
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they installed guard towers
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and ordered any escapees to be shot
and killed.
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Overseeing its construction was
Erich Honecker,
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and he soon turned his attention
to Sperenberg Airbase.
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Honecker was one of the key people
in building the Berlin Wall.
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A ruthless dictator who subjected
all of East Germany
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to his unquestioned rule.
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Honecker and the Soviet army began
the new phase of construction
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at Sperenberg, turning it into a
military airbase
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of unparalleled proportions.
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The real expansion is in the 1970s,
when you see Soviet bombers,
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Soviet fighters, Soviet combat
helicopters
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and lots of Soviet civilian
airliners
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that are shuttling personnel.
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It was the fastest and most direct
link between Moscow and Berlin,
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and the only Red Army airport
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that also had a civilian terminal
building
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for use by families, as well as
musicians
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brought in for troop entertainment.
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Sperenberg base became the most
valuable military airfield
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in East Germany. There's no doubt
about that.
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But just as Sperenberg had gone
through a major upgrade,
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the Soviets' iron grip on East
Germany began to loosen.
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Numerous pro-independence groups
began to form as people demanded
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things like democratic elections,
freedom of speech
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and the withdrawal of Soviet troops.
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Honecker refused to shift his ground
at all
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and kept insisting that using the
security service, the Stasi,
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which had informers everywhere and
thousands of agents,
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that he would just repress all
dissent in East Germany.
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And he nearly pulled it off.
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The East Germans were one of the
last Warsaw Pact nations to rebel.
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The Berlin Wall was being ripped
down by Berliners East and West.
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As the Soviet Union began the
mammoth task of withdrawing
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360,000 troops and their families
from across Eastern Europe,
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the new government brought charges
against Honecker.
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As East Germany frees itself from
the one-party control,
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a hunt is on for these creatures
of the communist regime,
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chief among them Honecker.
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Everybody knew that Honecker had
approved orders
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for East German border guards to
shoot to kill
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if anybody tried to escape East
Germany.
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That meant that Honecker had a
noose around his neck.
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On the run, and desperate to avoid a
show trial,
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Honecker turned to his overlords in
Moscow.
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The last thing anybody needs is a
trial with Erich Honecker
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talking about the truth of the East
German communist regime.
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So, Sperenberg, throughout this
period, is in Soviet hands
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as they shuttle people home
using this air base.
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You know, hundreds of thousands of
Soviet troops and, and family
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that were housed in East Germany.
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So, in March 1991, Soviet communists
see an opportunity to spirit
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Honecker out of East Germany.
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Under the cover of darkness,
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he was brought to Sperenberg by
Soviet troops.
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The couple then boarded a plane on
the airstrip,
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right beside the building, destined
for Moscow.
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Honecker was later extradited from
Russia to stand trial in Berlin,
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appearing in court in November 1992.
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Honecker was defiant until the end,
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claiming that the Berlin Wall had
saved lives,
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that it prevented World War Three,
which would have killed millions.
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The trial was quickly abandoned due
to his deteriorating health,
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and he died two years later.
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At that point in 1994, the last
of the Soviet equipment and people
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were still being moved out of
Sperenberg,
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but since then the site has remained
abandoned and largely untouched.
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Local residents have formed a Museum
Association,
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offering guided tours and are pushing
for the 2000-acre complex
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to become a Unesco World Heritage
Site.
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In the Republic of Ireland, lie the
remains of a doomed vanity project.
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We're in County Carlow, an hour
south of Dublin,
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in a wet and windy Irish
countryside.
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One structure casts a long shadow
over the surrounding landscape.
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WOMAN:When you first see the
building,
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you almost can't believe it's still
standing.
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The place has been hollowed out,
but the walls are still intact.
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It's got the parapets and
battlements of a medieval castle.
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MAN:Anybody looking up at this tower
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would realise that these people
were in charge...
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..in charge of their lives, and in
charge of their destiny.
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But the owners of this house felt
the ground shifting under their feet.
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The building once housed a powerful
and influential family.
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But a tide of change was coming to
Ireland,
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and this place was caught in the
middle of it.
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It went from an aristocratic party
palace to an IRA stronghold.
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But one organisation took up
residence here,
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whose role in Irish independence
has been almost entirely forgotten.
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It's really a privilege to have this
at our doorstep,
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and lots of people in Carlow don't
actually know that it's here.
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Danny McDaid has dedicated much
of his time to researching this site
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and dispelling the many myths that
surround it.
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When you look upon this house now
you see a ruin,
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a Gothic mansion which has suffered
horrendous damage.
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But for me, looking upon it, I see
life.
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I see what it was.
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This is Duckett's Grove, historical
home of the Duckett family.
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The Duckett's were married into the
Protestant elites
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and moved to Ireland during the
years of English plantation
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and colonisation.
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With the marriages that they made
and the money that they made,
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they built the Georgian-style house,
a very square basic house.
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But then in the 1820s, the Duckett
family starts to massively expand it
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and makes it into this gothic
dreamland castle.
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This was all about impressing
their rich friends.
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So, their rich friends would come
around the corner.
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They would look up at this
structure.
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You have this magnificent tower,
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and even today, almost 200 years
later,
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you can see how impressive it still
is.
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Duckett's Grove was not just
architecturally impressive,
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it was also ahead of its time.
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The technological achievements of
the Ducketts was quite amazing.
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What you had was pipes leading into
a boiler house
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just around the corner.
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So they were able to temperature
regulate greenhouses
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in the 18th century, and from that
they were able to grow exotic fruits
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like melons and strawberries and
tomatoes
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and, quite amazingly, pineapples.
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This would have seemed like the
lap of luxury to the tenant farmers
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who are just living in absolute
poverty in the area around.
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The family had a reputation
that matched the extravagance
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of the building and surrounding
grounds.
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The last of the Duckett line was a
man named William Duckett,
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and he was known as quite the
eccentric, quite a philanderer.
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He married a much, much younger
woman.
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Maria Duckett and William Duckett,
liked nothing more than to party.
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They loved a good party. And then
William Duckett
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would have ran downstairs to play
the organ to welcome the people in.
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Some of the parties would have
lasted for days.
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During the Irish Famine, Protestant
William Duckett
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extended his generosity to residents
across the county,
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regardless of their faith.
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He was generally well liked for a
British landlord.
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He provided food for the workhouses
and paid good wages.
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Here in Carlow, the death rate
during the famine
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was less than in other counties, in
part due to Mr Duckett.
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But while he offered charity to his
Catholic neighbours,
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his wife Maria, a staunch Protestant,
held a different attitude,
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one born of bigotry and paranoia.
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She felt that she was way above
everybody else.
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She had almost a disdain for local
people.
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She had a big distrust and probably
a big fear of Catholics.
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She was always looking over her
shoulder at her Catholic staff
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and the grounds workers.
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Anti-British and anti-Protestant
sentiment was sweeping Ireland,
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stoking Maria's fears.
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And that was soon compounded
by the death of her husband.
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William Duckett died in 1908.
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But when he died, this house died
with him.
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Maria Duckett stopped all the
parties.
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She fell out with some of her
neighbours.
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So, for eight years, Maria Duckett
led a very solitary life.
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And her worst fears were soon
realised.
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In April of 1916, Irish Republicans
launched an armed insurrection
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against British rule, known as the
Easter Rising.
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You can only imagine, if she was
paranoid before,
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this must have felt like the end
of the world.
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She believed that she'd be rounded
up and be killed.
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So she packed it all in, abandons
Duckett's Grove
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and leaves for England.
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The house became a sitting duck
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as the newly-formed Irish Republican
Army prowled the countryside.
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The IRA targeted big houses like this
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as a symbol of British colonial
oppression
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in their fight for independence.
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Between just 1919 and 1923, the IRA
looted and burned
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almost 300 of these country mansions
across Ireland.
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But William Duckett's lasting
reputation in the county
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ensured a different fate for his
grand house.
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Because they had supplied food
into Carlow during the famine
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and because they had kept employment
high, the local people asked the IRA
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not to burn Duckett's Grove.
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Instead, the army devised a use
for the sprawling mansion
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that would grant it a new life.
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It's practically already a fortress.
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You've got these walled gardens
where you can garrison troops.
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There's this giant tower where you
can see everywhere
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from over 100 miles.
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The property was turned into an IRA
training centre.
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Soon three new arrivals would make
their mark on the mansion.
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During the Irish War for
independence,
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three women were locked up in the
Mountjoy Prison in Dublin,
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Mae Bourke, Eithne Coyle and Linda
Kearns.
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They were imprisoned for various
Republican activities.
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Trading guns, possessing seditious
materials,
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generally aiding the revolution.
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What happened next made
international headlines.
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And a story straight out of the
great escapes from World War II.
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They fastened ropes and ladders,
and they escaped.
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When they broke out of Mountjoy
Jail in Dublin,
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they stole bicycles and they cycled
from Dublin to Duckett's Grove.
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The escape plan was orchestrated
by Michael Collins,
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the IRA's Director of Intelligence.
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Three of the women cycled the 50
miles
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to find the previously abandoned
mansion transformed.
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It was now a fully-fledged IRA base
occupied by 400 men.
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The women quickly set about getting
the camp in order.
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They set up an officer's mess,
nursed the wounded back to health,
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and even organised concerts to keep
up morale.
478
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,080
But they weren't here just to
support the troops.
479
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,080
They were part of what was known
as Cumann na mBan.
480
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Cumann na mBan was the Irish
Republicans Women's Association.
481
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,440
They were at the heart of the
rebellion in Ireland.
482
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,920
They ran guns.
483
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,400
They supplied intelligence.
484
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,880
They worked in Dublin Castle,
supplying Michael Collins
485
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,120
with information.
486
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360
They used Duckett's Grove
as a command control centre
487
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920
for operations against the British.
488
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,080
You might see in old paintings that
there were statues once covering
489
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,600
the grounds of Duckett's Grove,
but most of them are gone now.
490
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960
The women would use these statues,
491
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
these symbols of colonial
oppression,
492
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,880
as target practice, blowing them to
smithereens.
493
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,840
One particular photo of the women
survives, rifles in hand,
494
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,720
standing triumphantly in the door
of the house,
495
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,040
with the Union Jack firmly under
their boots.
496
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:27,000
In December 1921, the Anglo-Irish
treaty was signed by Michael Collins.
497
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,240
And the IRA training grounds were
dissolved.
498
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,000
But the treaty partitioned the island
499
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,040
into the largely Protestant north
500
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
and the predominantly Catholic South,
501
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,600
which would be named the Irish Free
State.
502
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,520
Its status was somewhere between a
province of the British Empire
503
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,240
and an independent republic.
504
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Collins knew this was a compromise
many of his comrades wouldn't abide,
505
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,200
and reportedly said, "I may have just
signed my actual death warrant."
506
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,960
This prophecy came true just months
later as the IRA split in two
507
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,760
and he was assassinated by
Anti-Treaty forces.
508
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,280
Ireland was plunged into a terrible
civil war.
509
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Brother against brother.
510
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040
After that, the fledgling Irish
state needed money,
511
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440
so they were selling off lands
belonging to these big houses
512
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,080
all across Ireland.
513
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560
And Duckett's Grove was no different.
514
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,200
The mansion was sold and its
contents auctioned off.
515
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,440
Stripped of its original grandeur,
516
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,800
it then suffered further humiliation
when it was consumed by fire.
517
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,400
I believe the cause of the fire was
financial,
518
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,880
either insurance or taxes.
519
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Because the bigger the house,
the more taxes people had to pay.
520
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,960
And if a house didn't have a roof,
you didn't pay taxes.
521
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,960
But this magnificent house
was left in ruins...
522
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,520
..in 1933.
523
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Many big houses in Ireland remain
derelict,
524
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440
but the work of volunteers like
Danny,
525
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,880
has opened Duckett's Grove up to the
public.
526
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,760
The building is wonderful, but it's
the story behind the building.
527
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,440
It's the people that truly bring it
to life.
528
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,680
The role of the Women's Army is
becoming more widely acknowledged,
529
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,880
but the full scope of their
activities may never be known.
530
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,920
As they grew older,
531
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120
the women who had participated
in revolutionary activities
532
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960
were very secretive and silent
about their role.
533
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,440
So sadly, because no one documented
what women did cos of patriarchy,
534
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,520
we'll probably never know the full
extent of their role
535
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,840
in the revolution.
536
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,600
In a secluded region of western
Spain,
537
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,560
a peninsula juts out over a vast,
shimmering lake.
538
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,640
WOMAN:We're about 180 miles west
of Madrid.
539
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,400
It's a beautiful area, a glorious
green landscape.
540
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,680
MAN:It's picturesque. It's peaceful.
541
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,320
It's like something out of a fairy
tale.
542
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Except that, there's not a single
soul to be seen.
543
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,520
This imposing ghost town displays
all the hallmarks
544
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,960
of an ancient stronghold.
545
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,640
WOMAN:The whole town is protected
by this high stone wall,
546
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,640
and it's even got its own kind
of castle tower
547
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,720
near the gates guarding it.
548
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,800
Within the walls, the town is laid
out around a large central plaza,
549
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,480
which is bounded by grand
townhouses and civic buildings.
550
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,640
You can imagine that this place
was once bustling with life,
551
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,840
but not any more.
552
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400
It's a classic frozen-in-time
scenario.
553
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,360
Everyone just up and vanished.
554
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,400
And there's general decay, but no
big obvious clue
555
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
as to what caused this abandonment.
556
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,360
Not many people are left
557
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,440
to keep alive the story of what
happened here.
558
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,240
But sisters Vicenta and Rosario, are
some of the last
559
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
and recall a vibrant community.
560
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,920
SHE SPEAKS IN SPANISH
561
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,280
The square has been a focal point
since medieval times,
562
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,840
when the town adopted its name,
Granadilla.
563
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,360
The walls went up in the 12th
century.
564
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,920
A couple of hundred years later,
the imposing castle was added.
565
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,080
By the 20th century, this town was
home to over a thousand inhabitants.
566
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,200
It had evolved over more than a
millennium into a bustling town
567
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,360
with 300 family homes.
568
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Though she was young, Vicenta
still fondly recalls family life
569
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,240
in her now ruined home.
570
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,640
Life here was rooted in agriculture
and farming.
571
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,760
But in 1955, Vicenta's childhood
was shattered.
572
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,880
This ancient town was about to have
the life sucked out of it,
573
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,640
thanks to a dictator who came to
prominence in the 1930s.
574
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,920
The Civil War was brutal, a bloody
and violent conflict that claimed
575
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,120
hundreds of thousands of lives.
576
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,960
General Francisco Franco, aided by
his fascist allies, Adolf Hitler
577
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,000
and Benito Mussolini, emerged as
leader in 1939.
578
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,680
But the country had torn itself
apart.
579
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Poverty, poor housing, disease,
drought and famine were rife.
580
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,880
The challenges that Spain faced must
have seemed insurmountable.
581
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,480
Essentially, Franco needed to turn
around
582
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,440
the battle-scarred country's
fortunes.
583
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,960
So, one of the approaches that
General Franco took
584
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,880
was to back these vast civil
engineering projects.
585
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Central to this plan was advances
in irrigation.
586
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:53,240
Over 600 dams were built between
1939 and 1975.
587
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,760
This was construction on an immense
scale.
588
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,160
The largest of these hydroelectric
dams was to be in the Alagon River,
589
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,080
just 24 miles from Granadilla.
590
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,840
In 1955, officials declared the town
a flood zone
591
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,720
and ordered its inhabitants to
evacuate.
592
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Some began leaving, but to force the
remainder out,
593
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,360
the government declared that the
land,
594
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,600
including the town and the farms,
would become state property
595
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,000
and insisted that not even a chair
be left behind.
596
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,440
Can you imagine what that must
have felt like?
597
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Just to be told to get up and leave
598
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,080
what had been your family's home
for generations?
599
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,760
It must have been absolutely
devastating.
600
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,640
The situation here was far from
unique. The same approach
601
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,520
was being taken to towns and
villages right across Spain,
602
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
to make way for these grand
infrastructure projects.
603
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:27,640
In 1963, the dam was complete and
the floodgates opened on Granadilla.
604
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,960
It completely altered the
surrounding landscape.
605
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
These roads that used to lead into
this town
606
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,440
kind of slip beneath the rising
tide.
607
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,760
But there would be a cruel twist to
this tale.
608
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,440
The rising waters turned the hill
on which the town sat,
609
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,560
into a kind of peninsula, but
that's as high as the water got.
610
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,200
The town was completely cut off.
611
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:19,320
It was surrounded, but the town
itself never actually flooded.
612
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,360
This was the plan all along,
613
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120
and engineers would have known that
the town wouldn't flood.
614
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,240
In the end, it was either
bureaucratic blunder
615
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400
or bureaucratic deception.
616
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Either way, for the people there,
what happened was unforgivable.
617
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,480
The key question here is, why
hasn't anyone come back.
618
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,720
In order to prevent the residents
from ever returning to Granadilla,
619
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040
the flood zone status is still in
effect,
620
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,720
ensuring that no one can live here
permanently.
621
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,360
The town is now a tourist site
622
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,680
and a monument to the many
communities across Spain
623
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:27,720
that suffered a similar fate at the
hands of the dictatorship.
624
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,880
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