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NARRATOR: Imagine a world
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where your 300th birthday
looks more like your 30th.
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Sounds good, right?
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EVA: Oscar, I'm done.
Do you need the VR?
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GROUP: Surprise!
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NARRATOR: Well in the future
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radical life extension
technology
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will make our current life span
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seem like a mere
blink of an eye.
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OSCAR: Happy birthday.
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NARRATOR: We'll stay healthy
and active for centuries,
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putting plastic surgeons
out of a job.
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[clinks glass]
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OSCAR: So, it's not every day
your wife turns 300.
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So, to Eva, who is as beautiful
as the day I met her.
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NARRATOR: Adding centuries
to your life
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will radically redefine
how we view relationships,
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work, childbirth, and
the fabric of society itself.
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And those who choose immortality
will have to rethink
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the very idea of what it means
to be alive at all.
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It's the deep future.
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Your body? Gone.
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You're all computer,
all the time.
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Your brain is way more powerful
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than even a billion
supercomputers.
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Jobs, food, language, water,
even traditional thought,
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all of humanity's
building blocks?
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All that's done.
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And you are immortal.
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Squirming in your chair yet?
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You should be.
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This isn't science fiction.
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Today's visionary thinkers say
it's a strong probability
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that this is what your world
is going to look like.
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Tonight, they'll guide you
toward that spectacular future,
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and we'll see how
one family navigates it,
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one invention at a time.
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This is the story
of your future.
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This is the road
to Year Million.
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Just so we're clear,
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the Year Million is not
literally the year one million.
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It's another way of saying
the far, far future.
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CHUCK NICE: The Year Million,
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it's really not
one million years.
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It is a concept of an age.
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So think about this:
the Earth is about, what?
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4.5 billion years old.
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So the Year Million
is a literal...
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NARRATOR: That's right.
A blink of an eye.
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And human life has been around
for less than that.
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But it hasn't stopped us
from obsessing
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about how we can extend it,
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since, well,
since the beginning of time.
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BRIAN GREENE: The nature
of human mortality
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is one of the most poignant
parts of existence.
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We're born, and we know
we're going to die.
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Great thinkers,
from Einstein to Freud,
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have long since
come to the conclusion
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that the fact that we are born
with the knowledge
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that we are going to die
is what shapes how we live.
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If that changes, then I think
we'd fundamentally change
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what it means to be human.
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NARRATOR: Thank you, Brian.
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Folks, let's be clear,
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it's no longer a question of if,
but rather when,
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we as a species will have
the choice to become immortal.
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So for those of you
who've played your part
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in the billion-dollar spend
on anti-aging creams,
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diets and gym memberships,
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hoping you can turn back
the clock and extend your lives,
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get excited,
because the real revolution
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in radical life extension
has already begun.
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And it's way beyond just
skin-deep solutions.
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Let me show you what
I'm talking about.
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The first stage
towards immortality
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lies in the advancement
of nanotechnology.
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In the near future,
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we'll send tiny
microscopic robots
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coursing through
our bloodstreams,
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fixing mutations in our cells,
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so that they never get old
or fall apart.
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Next, we'll not only
re-engineer our DNA
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to resist all life-threatening
diseases and viruses,
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we'll be able to create
super-intelligent children,
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designed to our exact
specifications.
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Now it's time to get weird.
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If creating the ultimate
sustainable biological body
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isn't enough,
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there may be a time when
our descendants will choose
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to discard
their physical bodies,
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and upload themselves
into a digital world.
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And for those of you who might
not live long enough
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to see the beginnings
of these breakthroughs,
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you can make a long-shot bet
on the future
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in the form of
cryonic preservation.
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Freezing yourselves until
the day we wake up to a world
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where technology has caught up
with our dream for eternal life.
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Our journey to immortality will
transform the way we live,
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the relationships we have, and
the very meaning of life itself.
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But let's rewind
to a more recent future.
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Remember that birthday party?
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It's just getting started.
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But what's the perfect gift
for the person you love,
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when she turns 300?
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Something more precious
than diamonds or gold.
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EVA: You know what I want
for my birthday, don't you?
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OSCAR: What's that?
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EVA: The only thing that I want
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is more time with you.
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NARRATOR: Time,
it's what everyone wants
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but never has enough of.
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So how do these two lovebirds
get a marriage
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that lasts 200 years,
let alone survive it?
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The answer might be found in
the most unsuspecting of places.
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Yes, whales.
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MICHIO KAKU:
The bowhead whale lives,
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we think, on the order
of 200 years.
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NARRATOR: In 2007,
a giant bowhead whale
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was caught off
the coast of Alaska
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with a harpoon point
embedded in its neck.
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That harpoon was dated back
to approximately 1880,
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making that whale
around 130 years old.
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The Greenland shark can live
up to 400 years.
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What are they doing
that we're not?
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KAKU: Organisms age
at different rates.
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Some so long that we don't even
know what their life span is.
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Like crocodiles and alligators.
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I've visited
many crocodile farms,
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and I've talked to
the trainers there,
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and they all say the same thing,
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that, yeah, crocodiles
that are older than them,
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they're just as vigorous and
as energetic as youngsters.
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Aging is not necessarily a given
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for all organisms
on the planet Earth.
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NARRATOR: We don't know
exactly why some animals
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live longer than humans,
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but one theory is that our
biological clock is determined
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by parts of our cells
called telomeres.
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As we get older,
our telomeres fray,
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they stop dividing and decay,
and that's what causes aging.
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So what if we could somehow
stop the fraying,
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or reverse the cycle?
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PETER DIAMANDIS:
In medical school,
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I became enamored with the idea
that there are species on Earth
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that live for hundreds of years.
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If they can, why can't we?
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NARRATOR: Enter nanotechnology.
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Scientists are already
hard at work
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developing microscopic medical
devices known as nanobots.
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In the deep future, these
tiny robots will be injected
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directly into our bloodstreams.
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And they'll be able to repair
our cells from the inside.
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They'll be able to reverse
the telomere cycle from fraying.
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Nanobots will eventually be
so effective at curing disease,
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and even genetic mutations,
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that we'll never get sick,
and we'll never get old.
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EVA: Wow.
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DIAMANDIS: Imagine little robots
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that are able to go
into your cells,
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look for problems,
and actually correct them.
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THOMAS WEBSTER: We really
believe that nanotechnology
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might be the future for treating
a lot of our ailments
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that we've been unable to treat
using conventional therapies.
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DIAMANDIS: Those tools is
something that is in our future.
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It's just a matter of when,
not if.
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FARSAD: As it is right now,
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you can get your Botox
and your butt lift
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and just look like Gisele
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even though you started out,
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you know, looking like
a some sort of a frog.
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NARRATOR: Forget facelifts
and knee replacements.
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In the far future, nanobots will
be able to heal a gunshot wound,
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or treat the very first cell
of a lethal infection.
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And even as we speak, scientists
are using nanotechnology
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to help treat disease more
effectively than ever before.
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Now, I know what you're
thinking, but let's be clear--
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when we say nanobots, we're not
talking about little C-3POs.
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They'll be made
of something organic,
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so the body won't reject them.
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And a precursor
to these future bots
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is already being developed.
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It's a kind of messenger cell
that delivers life-saving drugs
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directly to the cells
that need it.
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The first step is just getting
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particles of medicine
that small.
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WEBSTER: What we can see here
is a reaction
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that we've created in the lab
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that can make
nanoparticles of selenium.
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NARRATOR: In larger amounts,
the mineral selenium is toxic.
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But at the nano scale,
selenium can treat cancer.
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Scientists inject these
tiny amounts of selenium
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into special synthetic
immune cells,
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that are capable
of delivering it
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to the precise place in the body
that needs it.
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WEBSTER: So if there's
a mutation in a cell
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that might be cancerous,
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we deliver selenium
to that cell to kill it.
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You can use this as a mechanism
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to selectively kill
unwanted cells in your body.
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GEORGE CHURCH: There's no
fundamental law of physics
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that says that our bodies
have to decay
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if we're constantly
repairing them.
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DIAMANDIS:
When you have nanobots
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coursing through your blood,
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continuously repairing
everything
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back to its original condition,
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ultimately, that's the end point
of medicine.
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NARRATOR:
The end point of medicine.
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That is huge.
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It'll be a transformative day
in the history of humanity.
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BARATUNDE THURSTON:
I see advertisements
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promising a glorious,
extended future,
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10-year vacations
being marketed,
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and new properties, and what
to do with this extra time.
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NARRATOR: But nanotech
is just a Band-Aid.
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It's step one.
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If we're going to crack the code
to immortality,
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we're going to have to go deeper
into our own code,
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our genetic code,
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and alter the very
building blocks of human life.
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FARSAD: In the future,
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we're going to be able to get
rid of a lot of pesky genes,
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like the genes that give you
horrible diseases
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like Alzheimer's,
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but also the gene
that makes you,
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like, be one of those people
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that give weak handshakes,
you know?
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That's a terrible gene.
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NARRATOR:
That is a terrible gene!
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And if you had the option,
you definitely wouldn't
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want to pass it on
to your children, right?
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And that will one day
be an option.
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The first stage will be
treating unwanted genes,
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once they've expressed
themselves.
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Ultimately, we'll go into the
DNA of embryos and select genes
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before a child is even born.
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DIAMANDIS: I have two boys,
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and as my wife and I think
about their upbringing,
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we want them to have the best
education, the best clothing,
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the best healthcare,
the best of everything.
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But why wouldn't you
want to start
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with the best genetic material?
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We're going to go from having
a family by random chance,
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like, you have sex and
randomly rearrange the genes,
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to a point where it's like,
I would never, ever do that.
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I wouldn't leave that
to randomness.
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That's, that's immoral
to leave it to randomness.
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I'm going to select the best
genes I can for my child,
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give him the best start
from day one.
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NARRATOR: Say goodbye
to evolution
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and say hello
to genetic engineering.
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But is humanity able to cope
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with this kind
of responsibility?
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We'll be making
stronger, faster,
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more intelligent
versions of ourselves.
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It may sound awesome,
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but playing God has rarely
gone well in the past.
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If we're not careful,
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in the process of making
the ideal human being,
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we may just destroy
our own humanity forever.
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NARRATOR:
Welcome back to the future,
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where nanotechnology has
brought us one step further
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in the quest for immortality.
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But nanotechnology is
just the beginning.
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KAKU: The next era will be when
we tinker with our genes.
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FARSAD: We're going to start
building these perfect humans
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that don't have any problems.
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You know, kids aren't
going to have acne,
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like, that's not going
to be a thing.
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There won't be an awkward phase.
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Like the genes that, like,
make your mom call you
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too many times in a week,
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they're going to
get rid of that,
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so I think in some ways
that's very exciting.
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NARRATOR: Scientists are already
beginning to take
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their first steps towards
changing our genetic code,
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with gene editing.
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Using restriction enzymes, also
known as molecular scissors,
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it's possible to actually
snip apart DNA,
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and then either splice in
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or remove small parts
of the strand.
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BRYAN JOHNSON:
Where we can actually
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take snippets of this code,
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and change it out,
either in embryos or in adults.
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So the first one
just happened in China.
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JON SPAIHTS: Things that were
thought to be impediments
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are falling left and right.
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Like the fact that
you never grow new teeth,
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or the fact that we thought,
until relatively recently,
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that you never grow
new brain cells.
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We have now grown new teeth
in people's jaws,
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starting from germ cells.
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We've discovered that
neurogenesis in the brain
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is normal into adulthood,
and can be stimulated.
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Those are things
we're going to crack.
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JOHNSON: We're born with
an expiration date.
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Our genetic code is set
to expire in a certain range.
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The question I have is, why?
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Can we program that so
it extends the expiration date?
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Can we program that so it
eliminates the expiration date?
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NARRATOR: Manipulating the very
building blocks of life
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may be the key to unlocking
the fountain of youth.
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KAKU: We will use science to
begin the process of slowing,
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and perhaps even stopping,
the aging process.
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Perhaps our children,
our grandchildren,
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will hit the age of 30,
and simply [snaps] stop.
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NICE: I'm vain.
I am very vain, okay?
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So if I can look like I'm 30
for 100 years, guess what.
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I'm going for that.
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NARRATOR: Who wouldn't?
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In the future,
genetic engineering
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will let us notch
many more years on our belt.
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But even now, some humans
have been lucky enough
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to be born with genetic code
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that allows them to live
extremely long lives.
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If your health is
your most valuable possession,
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it's like winning
the genetic Powerball jackpot.
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VALTER LONGO: Emma is the oldest
person in the history of Italy.
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NARRATOR: Emma is a rare case.
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She was born with longevity
encoded in her DNA.
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But even so, she would never
have gotten this far
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without a really good
and attentive doctor.
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NARRATOR: Sadly,
Emma passed away
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just as we finished production.
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But imagine a future
where genetic engineering
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will treat the causes
of aging itself.
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A 117-year-old like Emma
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would be able to hear perfectly,
walk, even dance the tango.
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DIAMANDIS: We're going to
completely transform medicine.
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It's going to become
personalized.
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This is perfect for you,
for your genomics,
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for your exact situation.
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It's predictive.
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Your genes tell us
you're likely to come down
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with this cardiac syndrome
or this cancer,
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and we're going to stop it from
happening in the first place.
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NARRATOR: Remember those
designer babies
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we'll all be making
in the future?
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Well, at present,
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genetic engineering hasn't
gone down that path.
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But scientists have already made
great strides in gene therapy
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to help cure disease.
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EVAN DAUGHARTHY:
All human disease
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is a product
of molecular defects.
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What we've invented is a way
to look inside the cells,
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and we actually see
what mutations are present.
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Once we understand the problem,
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then we can say,
oh, here's a drug
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that will turn that gene back on
or fix that DNA mutation.
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NARRATOR: Once we are able
to pinpoint
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and change issues
at a genetic level,
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humanity will be able
to avoid terminal illness.
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And that will revolutionize our
entire approach to how we live.
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MATT MIRA:
Yeah, I'd like the metabolism
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and desire to eat
of a long distance runner.
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That's what I'd like.
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That's sad? That's what I want.
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THURSTON: I can see people
having the time to avoid regret,
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try to make good on mistakes
that they've made.
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Think about the people
you've lost.
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What would be different if
they had lived an extra year,
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or five years, or a decade?
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What would you have told them?
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So there is a very emotional
and sentimental component
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beyond the science.
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NARRATOR: But with
genetic engineering,
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we may just be opening
a Pandora's box
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that we're not
prepared to handle.
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In the process of making
a better version of ourselves,
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we also might be taking away
some of the very characteristics
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that we value the most.
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SOULE: It would take away
a lot of the things
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that I think are important
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about myself and
my place in the world.
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NICE: The big moral question
will be designer babies.
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The only people who are worried
about designer babies
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are the people
who don't have babies,
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'cause I have three,
and I wish to God
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I could have designed
each and every one of them.
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AMY WEBB: Genetic engineering is
such a loaded, politicized term.
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CHURCH: I think
the biggest risk is
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there is a great tendency
for uniformity,
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and I think that's
very dangerous.
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DVORSKY:
There is definite concern
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that if you start to eliminate
conditions like autism,
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or even depression,
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what kind of diversity would
we be losing as a whole?
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Some of the world's
most famous artists
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and some of the world's
greatest scientists
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have had some
of these conditions.
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I think, as time passes,
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and as we harness
our genetic technologies,
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we will and we should
come to appreciate
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what's regarded
as neuro-diversity,
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that there's more than
one way of thinking,
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there's more than one way
of looking at the world.
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NARRATOR: That will be
our greatest challenge,
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not to throw out the baby
with the bathwater.
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As we eliminate traits
we deem unhealthy or bad,
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we're going to have to make sure
we don't eliminate
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the very things that
make us individuals.
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It's going to be
a real balancing act.
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DIAMANDIS: Our genomics is a way
to really extend
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the healthy human life span
at least a couple of decades.
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And then it starts
getting interesting.
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NARRATOR: In the future,
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nanotechnology is going to fix
our cells and our bodies.
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Genetic engineering will
pick up the slack
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and enable us
to eradicate disease
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and to pick out the very traits
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that will keep us
fit and healthy.
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All of this is amazing.
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But when we start talking
about immortality,
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that's a whole other
can of worms.
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If we really are serious about
getting to forever-land,
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we'll have to replace
our carbon-based human bodies
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and upload ourselves
to a supercomputer.
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Now that's going to raise
some serious issues.
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OSCAR: No, that's insane.
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EVA: I spend all my time
there anyway. We both do.
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OSCAR: There are boundaries,
Eva.
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There are lines you can't cross,
even for us.
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We don't even know
all the risks.
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What's to stop you from
being copied or hacked?
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EVA: And if the only place
I live is here,
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I could fall off a balcony
when I'm not paying attention.
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I want to live in the digital
world permanently, Oscar.
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Why worry about pain and death,
if we can live forever there?
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OSCAR: Does it even count
as living
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if your physical body is dead?
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EVA: I know what I've got to do,
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but I would rather do it
with your support.
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NARRATOR: It may look like
sci-fi, but this is your future.
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These are your new,
unimaginable choices.
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So, given the chance,
would you upload your brain?
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NARRATOR: Okay,
in the deep future
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we're going to have tiny robots
in our veins
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carrying medicine to our cells
and fixing them,
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which sounds pretty cool.
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And on top of that, we'll be
able to alter our genetic code
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to make most diseases
simply disappear,
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and deliver drastically
longer lives.
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How long? Who knows?
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Centuries, maybe more.
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ROSE EVELETH:
Over the past 150 years,
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we've basically doubled
life expectancy.
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And that's happened
through vaccines,
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through, you know, hygiene,
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through understanding
how disease works.
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I mean, that is incredible.
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WEBB: But we are still
biologically hindered
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by the squishy computer
in our heads.
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There are facets of our human
brains that hold us back.
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NARRATOR: But no matter
how advanced
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our medical technologies get,
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there will always be
new viruses,
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cells will always decay,
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and you can always
just simply fall,
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hit your head,
and lights out forever.
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In the deep future,
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failing organs will be
replaceable or fixable.
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Even now, we can live
without arms and legs,
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kidneys and lungs,
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but there's only one body part
we can't live without.
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GRAZIANO: You run into this
limit where it becomes necessary
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to do something about
the brain and the mind.
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And that's where you get
into all this business
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of mind uploading.
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NARRATOR: If we want
to live forever,
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humanity may have to become
at least partly,
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if not completely, digital.
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If we want to bridge the chasm
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separating longevity
and immortality,
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we may have to make
the giant leap
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of uploading the information
from our brains
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into a digital network.
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KAKU: We've had these
multibillion-dollar projects
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to break open
the boundaries of science.
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The next big program is
the Connectome Project--
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to map the entire brain.
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DVORSKY: So mind uploading will
initially be a technology
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that's used for life extension,
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for someone who is near death,
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or for someone who
has recently died.
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And the idea is that,
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you take all their memories
and their personality,
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and you can somehow copy that
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and then transfer that
into a digital medium,
492
00:25:05,204 --> 00:25:08,074
for life in a supercomputer.
493
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:09,976
SOULE: I understand
the attractiveness of it.
494
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,912
Like, it's fun to think about.
Because it's immortality.
495
00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:15,582
NARRATOR: That means
by the Year Million epoch,
496
00:25:15,615 --> 00:25:18,050
there will be humans
who are all computer.
497
00:25:18,084 --> 00:25:21,854
It's a far-out idea,
and it's also far off.
498
00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:24,557
Scientists are just starting
to tackle the problem
499
00:25:24,591 --> 00:25:29,095
of how to make
this technology a reality.
500
00:25:29,128 --> 00:25:31,030
PHILIP ROSEDALE: Getting the
information out of your brain
501
00:25:31,063 --> 00:25:33,199
is a problem that nobody knows
how to solve yet.
502
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:36,268
The technologies that you might
use to go inside a living brain
503
00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:37,770
would destroy it.
504
00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:38,838
MICHAEL GRAZIANO:
A lot has to get done
505
00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:40,607
before we can figure out
506
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,045
whether we can take a pattern
of connectivity from a brain
507
00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:48,615
and upload it or copy it.
508
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,883
It's going to happen,
I'm positive of that.
509
00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:54,420
Everything is moving
that direction.
510
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,188
KAKU: Believe it or not,
511
00:25:56,222 --> 00:26:00,627
we can actually upload memories
and record memories in mice.
512
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:02,895
Eventually we'll do it
with primates,
513
00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:05,431
and after that, perhaps
Alzheimer's patients.
514
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:08,868
You'll have a brain chip,
you'll push it,
515
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:13,139
and memories come floating
into your hippocampus.
516
00:26:13,172 --> 00:26:15,107
ANDERS SANDBERG:
The most likely early method
517
00:26:15,141 --> 00:26:18,878
of creating a brain emulation
would start with taking a brain
518
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,313
and then slicing it up
and scanning it.
519
00:26:21,347 --> 00:26:25,217
From this data, you would
reconstruct the neural network,
520
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:28,921
which would then be run
on a suitable supercomputer,
521
00:26:28,955 --> 00:26:30,757
connected to a virtual body.
522
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:34,093
NICE: Boom! You now live
in the computer.
523
00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:38,064
You, your essence now lives
in the computer.
524
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,166
NARRATOR: Once we shed
our physical bodies,
525
00:26:40,199 --> 00:26:43,602
we will exist only as
a computer copy of our brains.
526
00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,471
It's hard to imagine exactly,
527
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:50,509
but basically you'd be digital
information stored on a server.
528
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:54,413
But will we still be human if we
aren't made of flesh and blood?
529
00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:55,948
SANDBERG: I think mind uploading
530
00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:58,818
is one of the most easily
understandable steps
531
00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:02,789
where we could go
from human to post-human.
532
00:27:02,822 --> 00:27:04,290
NARRATOR:
Okay, hold on a minute.
533
00:27:04,323 --> 00:27:05,858
Post-human?
534
00:27:05,892 --> 00:27:07,927
How's that going to work?
535
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,997
What does that even look like?
536
00:27:11,030 --> 00:27:13,432
DVORSKY: A post-human is
a completely digitized human
537
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,367
that might still retain
many human attributes,
538
00:27:15,401 --> 00:27:18,137
but has shirked
their biological lineage,
539
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,872
living in a digital existence.
540
00:27:19,906 --> 00:27:23,175
SANDBERG: Those post-humans
would still laugh at jokes,
541
00:27:23,209 --> 00:27:24,977
they would still love,
542
00:27:25,011 --> 00:27:28,848
they would still remember their
childhood as biological humans.
543
00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:32,151
It's just that
an uploaded post-human
544
00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:34,954
will also be
potentially immortal,
545
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:39,391
able to copy himself,
and edit their brain.
546
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,527
NICE: I mean, listen,
I know that right now
547
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,997
everything that I touch,
feel, taste, see,
548
00:27:45,031 --> 00:27:49,568
is nothing more than a chemical
and electrical exchange
549
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:52,304
happening synaptically
inside this brain.
550
00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:55,007
So why not allow that to happen
inside of a computer?
551
00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,744
NARRATOR: Okay, that sounds
all well and good.
552
00:27:57,777 --> 00:27:59,311
But wouldn't you miss your body?
553
00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:01,213
I certainly would.
554
00:28:01,247 --> 00:28:06,652
What does it mean to feel when
there's nothing to feel with?
555
00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:08,187
THURSTON: The pursuit of
what it is to be human
556
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,222
is to achieve a higher level
of consciousness,
557
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:12,859
and like, is a human
without a body,
558
00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:17,196
is a mind only being,
in some ways more conscious?
559
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:20,332
Or is the body, is that of what
it means to be human?
560
00:28:20,366 --> 00:28:23,535
I, I don't know, man,
this is weird.
561
00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:25,872
NARRATOR:
In this Year Million scenario,
562
00:28:25,905 --> 00:28:27,606
we could achieve
everlasting life
563
00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,277
by unshackling our consciousness
from our bodies.
564
00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:40,086
It's either the end point for
humanity, or it's the beginning.
565
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,855
And some believe that humanity
will have entered
566
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:46,258
what religion has called heaven.
567
00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:48,127
DVORSKY: This has been the goal
of our species
568
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,864
since we first started to wonder
is there life after death?
569
00:28:51,898 --> 00:28:54,100
Imagining that the end state,
570
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:55,301
whether it be ascending
into heaven
571
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,804
or achieving a state of nirvana,
572
00:28:57,837 --> 00:29:00,807
would be this perpetual
state of bliss.
573
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,876
I mean, this living
forever in paradise,
574
00:29:03,910 --> 00:29:07,046
that could very well be
the end state of civilization.
575
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,148
PAUL BETTNER: Like the
technology that we're working on
576
00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,383
will enable something that's
almost indistinguishable
577
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:14,453
from what we've been describing
as heaven and the afterlife
578
00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:16,956
for millennia.
579
00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:18,958
NICE: That's funny that
some people feel like
580
00:29:18,991 --> 00:29:20,827
that may be what heaven will be,
581
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:24,130
is that we've found a way
to upload our consciousness
582
00:29:24,163 --> 00:29:27,433
to a computer,
and then we create constructs,
583
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:31,070
ones that we know we would love,
584
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:33,940
where we're around family
and loving friends
585
00:29:33,973 --> 00:29:38,677
and having experiences
into perpetuity.
586
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,748
My only caveat: I want to be
able to pull my own plug
587
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,985
to self-terminate when I want.
588
00:29:46,018 --> 00:29:49,822
Otherwise you're trapped
in that computer.
589
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:54,493
NARRATOR: Heaven on Earth?
590
00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:57,864
More like heaven in the cloud,
but a very different cloud
591
00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:00,799
than the one with cherubs
shooting arrows at each other.
592
00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:05,204
We're talking about everlasting
life in a digital paradise.
593
00:30:05,237 --> 00:30:07,539
Humanity may be heading
in that direction.
594
00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:09,842
But should we let it?
595
00:30:09,876 --> 00:30:11,277
EVELETH:
There are some ethicists
596
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,980
who think that if
we totally curb aging,
597
00:30:14,013 --> 00:30:15,781
that we're actually messing
with evolution in a way
598
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:17,016
that we've never done before,
599
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,851
and that we should
not mess with.
600
00:30:18,885 --> 00:30:20,386
You've sort of sold your soul
to the devil, in a lot of ways.
601
00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:22,688
You've given up some
essential humanity.
602
00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:24,623
SOULE: It starts to
drastically change
603
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,894
what it means to be a person
and a human being,
604
00:30:27,927 --> 00:30:30,496
and have, you know,
even metaphysical stuff,
605
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:32,031
what it means to have a soul.
606
00:30:32,064 --> 00:30:34,200
THURSTON: So much of what
it means to be a person
607
00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:37,036
is connected to the end
of personhood,
608
00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,872
that we try to live
as hard as we can,
609
00:30:39,906 --> 00:30:42,574
and do as much as we can,
before we can't anymore.
610
00:30:42,608 --> 00:30:44,010
SPAIHTS: It's going to require
611
00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:47,213
a complete internal redesign
of the self,
612
00:30:47,246 --> 00:30:50,216
because every way
we think about ourselves
613
00:30:50,249 --> 00:30:52,684
is calibrated against
the milestones
614
00:30:52,718 --> 00:30:55,554
of a life of a certain span.
615
00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:59,525
GREENE: I'd like to think that
what makes us who we are
616
00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:01,327
transcends our physical form.
617
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,830
It transcends whether we're
made up of molecules and atoms
618
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,033
and cells and neurons,
619
00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:10,569
and if we evolve
to a digital form,
620
00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:14,040
the essence of who we are
will stay with us.
621
00:31:14,073 --> 00:31:16,008
DIAMANDIS:
Human desire to contribute,
622
00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:18,844
for love and for connection,
to learn.
623
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,412
Will those things come with us?
624
00:31:20,446 --> 00:31:23,916
Is it genetic, is it in
the structure of our brain?
625
00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:28,720
All of this stuff is insane,
until it happens.
626
00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:30,022
ROSEDALE: I think without death,
627
00:31:30,056 --> 00:31:32,124
our life still does
have purpose,
628
00:31:32,158 --> 00:31:35,527
because we always seem
to seek to do great things.
629
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:37,396
And I bet that we do that even,
630
00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:40,866
you know,
with infinite life spans.
631
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,802
NARRATOR: In the far future,
when we find eternity,
632
00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:46,038
we may lose our bodies,
but hopefully,
633
00:31:46,072 --> 00:31:47,940
we will not lose our humanity.
634
00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:49,908
And until that day arrives,
635
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:53,079
for those desperate for
a shot at immortality today,
636
00:31:53,112 --> 00:31:56,815
their only chance may just be
to go into a deep freeze,
637
00:31:56,848 --> 00:31:59,418
until the deep future arrives.
638
00:32:02,588 --> 00:32:04,890
NARRATOR: Once scientists
perfect nanotechnology,
639
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:07,626
gene therapy,
and mind uploading,
640
00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:09,395
we'll live a whole lot longer.
641
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:12,298
But what do we do now if we want
to live to see that future?
642
00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:13,765
There's really just one thing
643
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,002
that might give us that chance
at immortality.
644
00:32:16,035 --> 00:32:18,237
It's a long shot,
and it's expensive,
645
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,440
and no one really knows
if it will even work.
646
00:32:21,473 --> 00:32:26,012
It's something called
cryonic preservation.
647
00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:29,081
SANDBERG: Cryonics is the idea
that you can take somebody
648
00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:31,250
who's dying and freeze them,
649
00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:33,986
in the hope that future medicine
will be advanced enough
650
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:37,189
to both treat whatever
they were dying of,
651
00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:41,527
and the damage we got
from the cryonic suspension.
652
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,331
I'm signed up for cryonics
because I like being alive,
653
00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:48,000
I want to have that
small extra chance.
654
00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:51,137
Maybe it's between 1% and 50%,
655
00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:56,542
but that's still much better
than 100% chance of dying.
656
00:32:56,575 --> 00:32:59,278
NARRATOR: It sounds crazy,
and many people think it is,
657
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,547
but it's kind of like
playing the lottery--
658
00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:03,815
the upside would be huge.
659
00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,317
FARSAD: It's a way
of time traveling.
660
00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,953
Put me to sleep
when I'm at my cutest,
661
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:11,957
and then I'll wake up like,
you know, 100 years from now,
662
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,859
maybe 1,000 years from now
663
00:33:13,892 --> 00:33:15,894
and then I'll see what
it's like out there.
664
00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:19,165
Like is my favorite brunch place
still open?
665
00:33:19,198 --> 00:33:20,566
NARRATOR: Of course
that doesn't mean
666
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,001
there might not be some
major issues facing you
667
00:33:23,035 --> 00:33:24,803
even if you hit that jackpot.
668
00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:25,837
EVELETH: One of the huge
problems
669
00:33:25,871 --> 00:33:27,873
of waking up in 150 years,
670
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:30,076
regardless of how intact
or un-intact your body is,
671
00:33:30,109 --> 00:33:32,511
is that things will be
so different,
672
00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,581
it's going to be very difficult
to acclimate.
673
00:33:35,614 --> 00:33:38,850
MARTIN REES: You'd be revived
into a completely alien world.
674
00:33:38,884 --> 00:33:40,552
The question is,
what would they do with you?
675
00:33:40,586 --> 00:33:43,355
Would they put you in a zoo?
Would they look after you?
676
00:33:43,389 --> 00:33:44,823
And how would you feel?
677
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:47,693
NARRATOR: Yes. No, thank you.
Not for me.
678
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,562
I'm not planning on being a
spectacle in someone else's zoo,
679
00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:52,164
that's for sure.
680
00:33:52,198 --> 00:33:54,566
But the truth is, we don't know
what life will be like,
681
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,936
and for some people, cryonics
offer the only glimmer of hope,
682
00:33:57,969 --> 00:34:01,507
no matter how slight, for
continued life in the future.
683
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,342
NEWSCASTER: The letter
to a British judge
684
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:07,012
from a teenage girl suffering
from cancer was heartbreaking.
685
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,548
'I'm only 14 years old
and I don't want to die,
686
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,117
but I know I am going to die.
687
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:13,719
I think being cryo-preserved
gives me a chance
688
00:34:13,752 --> 00:34:17,856
to be cured and woken up, even
in hundreds of years' time.'
689
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:22,394
After consulting with
her family, the judge agreed.
690
00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:24,029
SANDBERG: In this
particular case,
691
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,965
a young girl wanted to have
a cryonic suspension,
692
00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:29,935
because she was 14 years old
and dying of cancer.
693
00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:32,104
Unfortunately,
her father disagreed,
694
00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:37,109
so it ended up a court case,
which caused a bit of attention.
695
00:34:37,143 --> 00:34:38,610
When the judge found that yes,
696
00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:42,047
of course she is allowed
to be suspended.
697
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,983
WOMAN: She was very pleased
with the decision
698
00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:47,119
to allow her to be
cryo-preserved,
699
00:34:47,153 --> 00:34:50,422
which gave her great comfort
in the last days of her life.
700
00:34:50,456 --> 00:34:51,890
NARRATOR: Who can blame
the poor girl
701
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,893
for wanting
one more shot at life?
702
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:57,229
Of course, cryonics has
many skeptics,
703
00:34:57,263 --> 00:34:58,630
but that hasn't stopped people
704
00:34:58,664 --> 00:35:01,099
from planning for
the best-case scenario.
705
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,902
Take these guys
in Sheffield, England.
706
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:08,006
They're part of a non-profit
organization called Cryonics UK,
707
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,276
dedicated to preparing
the recently deceased,
708
00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:13,779
who desire it,
for cryonic preservation.
709
00:35:16,982 --> 00:35:19,918
ALAN SINCLAIR: Millions
of things come from dead people.
710
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:23,989
Hearts, livers,
kidneys, corneas.
711
00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:26,925
I mean, the fact is,
they're not dead.
712
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,093
DEREK WATKINSON: I've never been
happy with the fact
713
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,028
that we have to die.
714
00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:34,132
I heard that there were people
who were interested in cryonics,
715
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:37,803
and so I, I went with my family,
just to find out more.
716
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,838
And suddenly it was
a eureka moment for me.
717
00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,374
It was sort of,
ah, it's a possibility.
718
00:35:42,408 --> 00:35:49,114
*
719
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,982
NARRATOR: These guys
aren't speculating,
720
00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:54,786
what you're seeing here is just
a test run for the real thing.
721
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:56,822
MAN: Once you get past
the cooling-down stage,
722
00:35:56,855 --> 00:35:59,157
you then go into surgery,
where you wash the blood out,
723
00:35:59,191 --> 00:36:01,893
replace it with the antifreeze.
724
00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,129
After that,
it goes into the body bag,
725
00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:06,965
and into the dry ice cooler.
726
00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,900
DVORSKY: Some people opt to have
their whole bodies preserved,
727
00:36:08,934 --> 00:36:11,237
and some people just simply opt
to have their heads preserved.
728
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:12,638
That's where your memories are,
729
00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:15,874
and that's where
you are as a person.
730
00:36:15,907 --> 00:36:18,577
MIRA: You know, of all the short
television movies,
731
00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,879
there's one I am constantly
thinking about.
732
00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:24,850
It's Welcome Back, Mr. Fox.
733
00:36:24,883 --> 00:36:28,754
DOCTOR: Your Cryonics Society
filed for bankruptcy yesterday,
734
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:31,923
and they were all set to move
you out into the street.
735
00:36:31,957 --> 00:36:36,262
MIRA: It's about a man
who's cryogenically frozen.
736
00:36:36,295 --> 00:36:40,866
He comes back,
and he's a head in a jar.
737
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:42,568
REES: Even if the body
could be revived...
738
00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:43,902
MR. FOX: What's going on here?
739
00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:45,504
REES:
...it's the separate question
740
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,239
whether the brain's memories
would be revived.
741
00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:49,007
MR. FOX: Don't do this to me.
742
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,676
DOCTOR: It's alright.
MR. FOX: Don't put me in here!
743
00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:52,911
REES: Whether you'll be
the same person, or not at all.
744
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:56,782
MR. FOX: No!
745
00:36:56,815 --> 00:36:58,617
MIRA: That's a very
cautionary tale.
746
00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,352
You don't know
what you're in for
747
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:02,354
if you're going to
cryogenically freeze yourself.
748
00:37:02,388 --> 00:37:05,291
Like Ted Williams' head is
frozen in Arizona somewhere.
749
00:37:05,324 --> 00:37:07,025
I don't know what,
750
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,861
if their plan is to put him
onto a robot baseball body
751
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:11,430
at some point,
752
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:15,233
or to thaw him out,
reattach his head to something,
753
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:17,235
and then have him teach
hitting clinics.
754
00:37:17,269 --> 00:37:18,770
GRAZIANO: Maybe at some
future date,
755
00:37:18,804 --> 00:37:21,407
the technology will be there
to read the brain,
756
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,974
or put your head
on another body,
757
00:37:23,008 --> 00:37:25,711
or upload you to a computer,
or something like that.
758
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:27,746
So that's the hope there.
759
00:37:27,779 --> 00:37:28,780
TIM GIBSON:
It's a little bit exciting,
760
00:37:28,814 --> 00:37:30,282
and a little bit terrifying.
761
00:37:30,316 --> 00:37:31,817
You can either give in,
762
00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:35,387
or you can fight the fear
and move through it.
763
00:37:35,421 --> 00:37:36,955
It's just like doing anything.
764
00:37:36,988 --> 00:37:39,458
You learn to control it,
you learn to understand it.
765
00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:42,494
Identifying things that
you could improve on.
766
00:37:42,528 --> 00:37:44,963
WATKINSON:
I was 14 when my dad died,
767
00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:47,933
so I think that might have had
something to do with it.
768
00:37:47,966 --> 00:37:49,635
It's not, doesn't seem
right somehow.
769
00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:53,171
All those years of knowledge
and experience, just gone.
770
00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:56,675
I suppose we are playing God,
but so what?
771
00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,511
I just want to be alive.
772
00:37:59,545 --> 00:38:02,614
MIRA: I think that eventually
you run into an issue
773
00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:08,854
where if you keep prolonging
life, is it worth prolonging?
774
00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:11,790
Is there a point where
we're just a head in a jar
775
00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:13,859
like in Futurama,
776
00:38:13,892 --> 00:38:16,662
where, you know, you can just
pull up the Richard Nixon head
777
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,498
and have a conversation with it?
778
00:38:19,531 --> 00:38:23,369
Is that worth living?
Do I want to be a head in a jar?
779
00:38:25,404 --> 00:38:28,340
NARRATOR: Sounds like Matt's
not sold on cryonics,
780
00:38:28,374 --> 00:38:31,443
and in the future, it's possible
not everyone will be sold
781
00:38:31,477 --> 00:38:33,211
on all the technologies
available
782
00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:36,348
to prolong their lives.
783
00:38:36,382 --> 00:38:41,052
That means time will begin
to catch up with them.
784
00:38:41,086 --> 00:38:52,163
*
785
00:38:52,197 --> 00:38:57,202
[heart beating]
786
00:38:57,235 --> 00:39:00,338
JESS: Dad.
787
00:39:00,372 --> 00:39:02,974
NARRATOR: Like a heart attack
while you're gardening.
788
00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:05,377
[beeping]
789
00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,350
OSCAR: You said I was stabilized
three hours ago.
790
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:15,220
JESS: Arterial plaque stabilizer
dosage, Oscar.
791
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:16,722
OSCAR: Why do I need more shots?
792
00:39:16,755 --> 00:39:19,324
JESS: Stable doesn't
mean better, Dad.
793
00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:22,961
And a minor heart attack
is still a heart attack.
794
00:39:34,573 --> 00:39:35,907
OSCAR: Feels a bit better.
795
00:39:35,941 --> 00:39:38,343
JESS: This is why you need
your treatments.
796
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:39,745
Look, Mom's been taking them
for years.
797
00:39:39,778 --> 00:39:41,413
I don't see why
you couldn't take them.
798
00:39:41,447 --> 00:39:45,350
OSCAR: You know I'm not like
your mother, honey.
799
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:46,785
I'm not sure I want
to live forever.
800
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,587
JESS: Well, you won't.
801
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:50,388
According to my scan, if you
don't start getting treatments,
802
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:52,924
you're looking at
another seven years.
803
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:54,926
NARRATOR: I mean, for me,
the choice is simple--
804
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,928
get those treatments,
and maybe live long enough
805
00:39:56,962 --> 00:40:00,131
to see the Cubs
win another World Series.
806
00:40:03,168 --> 00:40:06,304
Radical life extension might
come too late for you and me,
807
00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:08,940
but it's on its way,
and once it arrives,
808
00:40:08,974 --> 00:40:11,443
we're going to have
a lot of time on our hands.
809
00:40:11,477 --> 00:40:14,880
It could mean total freedom,
or endless stagnation.
810
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,948
In Year Million,
we're going to find out.
811
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,287
NARRATOR:
Okay, in the deep future
812
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,422
your life span will be
exponentially longer
813
00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:26,257
than it is now.
814
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:29,327
But what does that really mean
in your day-to-day existence?
815
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,497
Let's take
the best-case scenario.
816
00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:33,665
Everything you've always
wanted to do--
817
00:40:33,699 --> 00:40:38,069
learn a new language,
play the piano, learn to paint.
818
00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:40,171
In the future you'll have
all the time in the world
819
00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:42,574
to do those things and more.
820
00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:47,012
That will change everything
about how we approach our lives.
821
00:40:51,517 --> 00:40:53,084
KAKU: It's unconscious,
822
00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:55,621
but you think about the day
you're going to die
823
00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:57,088
when you do anything.
824
00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:59,525
Going to college, getting a job,
retirement,
825
00:40:59,558 --> 00:41:05,997
all these things are predicated
on one fact, the day you die.
826
00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:09,434
GREENE: We could have
a really long lifespan.
827
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:12,604
1,000 years, 100,000 years.
828
00:41:12,638 --> 00:41:14,472
NARRATOR: 100,000 years?
829
00:41:14,506 --> 00:41:16,975
That's hard to even imagine.
830
00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:19,444
DVORSKY: Once we achieve
this radical life extension,
831
00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:22,648
what some futurists refer to
as negligible senescence,
832
00:41:22,681 --> 00:41:24,883
where we've ceased to age,
833
00:41:24,916 --> 00:41:28,687
society as we know it
will change quite dramatically.
834
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,556
We will continue to evolve
as individuals, you know,
835
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:33,458
find new ways of interacting
with the world,
836
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:37,195
develop new skills,
new relationships.
837
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,731
SANDBERG: Currently,
our relationships are based on
838
00:41:39,765 --> 00:41:42,400
the idea that we are
supposed to stay together
839
00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:44,836
till death do us part.
840
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:49,641
But if that is indefinitely,
they might not last that long.
841
00:41:49,675 --> 00:41:51,509
SOULE: I mean, I'd like to think
that, that there are marriages
842
00:41:51,543 --> 00:41:55,380
that could last five centuries
and everyone would be happy.
843
00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:57,482
But, you know, a marriage
that lasts five decades
844
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,217
seems to strain
the emotional resources
845
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,719
of most people these days.
846
00:42:00,752 --> 00:42:02,387
ANNALEE NEWITZ: People will have
847
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:05,423
a much more do-it-yourself
approach to relationships,
848
00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:08,326
so kind of building the kinds of
relationships they want to have,
849
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:12,230
building families that
they want to have.
850
00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:14,766
NARRATOR: Unlimited
relationships of every kind.
851
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,069
Yes, I bet a lot of you
can get on board with that.
852
00:42:18,103 --> 00:42:22,273
But now let's look at
the not-awesome possibility
853
00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,375
of radical life extension.
854
00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:27,512
KAKU: The danger facing
a society that lives forever
855
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:30,048
is stagnation.
856
00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:32,851
NARRATOR: Without death we may
just stop wanting or needing
857
00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:35,453
to do, well, anything.
858
00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:40,391
FARSAD: I feel like the idea
that you could die, you know,
859
00:42:40,425 --> 00:42:41,627
gives you some kind of urgency
860
00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:43,695
about what you do
with your life.
861
00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:47,065
Like are you going
to achieve your goals?
862
00:42:47,098 --> 00:42:51,937
Are you going to finally
take that trip to Barbados?
863
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:55,140
NARRATOR: On the other hand many
futurists disregard the idea
864
00:42:55,173 --> 00:42:57,442
that death is what gets us
out of bed in the morning.
865
00:42:57,475 --> 00:42:59,077
DVORSKY:
There's this common argument
866
00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:01,312
against radical life extension
that I hear constantly,
867
00:43:01,346 --> 00:43:03,248
and that is, oh, why would
anyone want to live forever?
868
00:43:03,281 --> 00:43:05,150
We'd be so bored.
869
00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:08,419
And I'm like, are you serious?
870
00:43:08,453 --> 00:43:10,555
If anything, we're going to be
paralyzed by choice.
871
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,257
Like what are we going to do
with ourselves,
872
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:13,659
given that we have
all these ways
873
00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:15,460
of, you know,
engaging in the world
874
00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:19,130
and playing
and relating to each other.
875
00:43:19,164 --> 00:43:22,067
NARRATOR: Whether we learn
to kite surf and play the guitar
876
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,835
or lay in bed all day,
877
00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:26,337
there are some
practical consequences
878
00:43:26,371 --> 00:43:28,406
to our radically longer lives.
879
00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:31,176
Without death, the world could
face a whole new array
880
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:34,412
of population control issues.
881
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,748
NEWITZ: That's where longevity
gets really sticky,
882
00:43:36,782 --> 00:43:39,517
because if we're not going
to overrun the planet
883
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:42,153
with a bunch
of 100-year-old people,
884
00:43:42,187 --> 00:43:44,690
we really have to rethink
885
00:43:44,723 --> 00:43:48,326
how we manage populations
on the planet.
886
00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:49,861
N.K. JEMISIN: If we've suddenly
got 6 billion people
887
00:43:49,895 --> 00:43:51,496
that aren't going anywhere,
888
00:43:51,529 --> 00:43:53,364
why do we need to have
more children?
889
00:43:53,398 --> 00:43:56,201
Can this planet support
increasing numbers of people,
890
00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:59,270
as more and more
babies are born?
891
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:03,474
What does it do to us if
we are nothing but adults,
892
00:44:03,508 --> 00:44:04,943
we don't have kids around?
893
00:44:04,976 --> 00:44:07,212
I think that's harmful.
894
00:44:07,245 --> 00:44:09,447
DVORSKY: Yes, there are many
challenges that will arise
895
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,116
as a result of radical
life extension,
896
00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:12,951
such as
the overpopulation problem.
897
00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:14,319
But I suspect that
in the future,
898
00:44:14,352 --> 00:44:16,154
we will increasingly come
to possess tools
899
00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:19,224
that will allow us
to fix those problems.
900
00:44:19,257 --> 00:44:22,293
NARRATOR: But some of those
Year Million solutions could be
901
00:44:22,327 --> 00:44:26,998
as frightening as the original
problem of death once was.
902
00:44:27,032 --> 00:44:30,468
NEWITZ: In 500 years,
you could imagine a culture
903
00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:32,871
where we have
a regulatory agency
904
00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:35,473
that's in charge of who
gets to have a kid,
905
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:38,043
because we got to keep
the population low enough
906
00:44:38,076 --> 00:44:42,047
to allow people to live
for a really long time.
907
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,648
NARRATOR: I don't like
the sound of that.
908
00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:45,884
But that might not even be
the half of it.
909
00:44:45,917 --> 00:44:47,753
It could get worse.
910
00:44:47,786 --> 00:44:49,187
DIAMANDIS: People are worried
911
00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:51,489
about the inequality
of this technology.
912
00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:54,192
That it's going to come to
the wealthiest people first.
913
00:44:54,225 --> 00:44:55,927
MIRA: If you're looking
at prolonging your life,
914
00:44:55,961 --> 00:44:58,529
and it's a technology that only
the super rich can afford,
915
00:44:58,563 --> 00:45:00,198
what are you going
to end up with?
916
00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:03,101
You're going to end up with...
917
00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:05,103
pretty much what happens now.
918
00:45:05,136 --> 00:45:07,238
THURSTON: We already have
life extension right now,
919
00:45:07,272 --> 00:45:08,573
it's called being white.
920
00:45:08,606 --> 00:45:10,241
[laughs]
921
00:45:10,275 --> 00:45:12,177
Because of the health outcomes
and the level of care.
922
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:17,382
Like regular doctor visits is a,
is a form of life extension.
923
00:45:17,415 --> 00:45:20,351
Healthcare is life extension.
924
00:45:20,385 --> 00:45:22,754
NARRATOR: These are the same
issues we're dealing with today.
925
00:45:22,788 --> 00:45:25,390
Seems like if we don't find
solutions for them now,
926
00:45:25,423 --> 00:45:27,759
it's only going to get worse
in the future.
927
00:45:27,793 --> 00:45:31,596
NICE: So what we need now
is to find equity
928
00:45:31,629 --> 00:45:36,601
so that all human beings
can live well.
929
00:45:36,634 --> 00:45:38,469
DIAMANDIS: But here's the fact.
930
00:45:38,503 --> 00:45:42,040
We're heading towards a world
of extraordinary abundance.
931
00:45:42,073 --> 00:45:45,243
You have access to the world's
information on Google,
932
00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:46,577
you have access
to megabit connections.
933
00:45:46,611 --> 00:45:48,413
So the poorest people
on the planet,
934
00:45:48,446 --> 00:45:50,715
8 billion people within
the next 10 years,
935
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:54,219
will have access to
all of this capability.
936
00:45:54,252 --> 00:45:56,922
We are dematerializing,
demonetizing,
937
00:45:56,955 --> 00:45:59,490
and democratizing.
938
00:45:59,524 --> 00:46:01,392
NARRATOR: That certainly
would be the hope.
939
00:46:01,426 --> 00:46:04,095
That as we extend our life spans
further and further
940
00:46:04,129 --> 00:46:07,465
into the future,
perhaps even into eternity,
941
00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:11,837
we also ensure that society
advances at the same rate.
942
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:16,574
Otherwise we're going to be
in for some serious problems.
943
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:18,910
We've seen that
the quest of immortality
944
00:46:18,944 --> 00:46:21,312
raises all sorts
of sticky questions.
945
00:46:21,346 --> 00:46:24,349
It forces us to confront
the very fundamental question
946
00:46:24,382 --> 00:46:27,785
about what our purpose is
here on Earth, or beyond.
947
00:46:27,819 --> 00:46:32,457
Our desire for eternal life
could liberate us or destroy us.
948
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:34,359
SPAIHTS: So the question
does become,
949
00:46:34,392 --> 00:46:39,330
when immortality arrives, what
are you going to do with it?
950
00:46:39,364 --> 00:46:40,765
NARRATOR: The final step
toward eternity
951
00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:43,501
will be a complete
paradigm change.
952
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:46,504
It's when you step into
the screen you are watching,
953
00:46:46,537 --> 00:46:48,874
and it becomes your everything.
954
00:46:48,907 --> 00:46:52,177
All of society will
live digitally,
955
00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:54,980
in a virtual world
called the metaverse
956
00:46:55,013 --> 00:47:01,452
that is 1,000 times more intense
than the one around you now.
957
00:47:01,486 --> 00:47:04,689
It sounds like The Matrix,
958
00:47:04,722 --> 00:47:06,824
but it's the Year Million.
77922
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